All right, welcome to Supernatural Saturday.
If you are new to Supernatural Saturday, if you're brand new to the program, you are coming
in at such a supernatural time.
We are seeing such supernatural progress in people's lives right now in the season.
I like to call it a tipping point when I see it happen.
And it's just so exciting to hear the stories and the testimonies that are coming in.
And so you are right on time, you are in congruence and convergence to what God has for your life.
And what we do on Saturdays is we just celebrate that.
We look to heaven.
We ask God, hey, what are you up to?
What can we partner with you on?
What can we come into agreement with?
So Saturday is a time of not just agreement with heaven, but what is that current prophetic
reality over our lives and over this community?
And so that's what we do on Saturdays.
So Father God, we're so thankful that we get to come together again and we get to get into
that lane with you.
Whatever lane you're in, whatever you're doing, we're calling shotgun this morning.
We're asking you to help us to be willing, to be made willing in this day of your power,
in this day of your breakthrough, to volunteer, to be part of that.
And so Lord, we thank you.
We ask that all of our hearts would be open, our ears and eyes and spirits would receive
in Jesus name.
Amen.
All right.
So what was on my heart this morning, and it came from an old video.
You guys have been doing this for a long time.
And sometimes I don't even remember how long I've been doing what I do until Facebook reminds
me.
Anybody else?
You have like little Facebook memories that pop up and you're like, oh, wow, I've been
saying this for 20 years, or I've been saying this for 15 years, or I've been talking to
people about their love lives for, you know, this long or that long, or talking to people
about God's promises over their lives for decades.
And so I used to do a show called The Wake Up Call with Jackie, your daily dose of curd
tope and faith.
And I feel like that's going to be coming at you soon from a podcast near you again.
But right now, I saw a video from one of those wake up calls, and it reminded me of a very
important truth.
And I felt like God's like, hey, share that.
Share that on Supernatural Saturday.
So I'm going to share for a few minutes, and then Bethany is going to take over and activating
some of that with you guys this morning.
I think it's really important not just to hear the word, but to activate it.
And that's why if you're new, we have a full time of activation on Sunday evenings.
In fact, that's what I called Sunday activation.
And so if you want to activate more, then please join us tomorrow at 8pm Eastern.
That is not a recorded session.
So because it's meant to be a time of breakouts.
And so hopefully, that is the model that we continue to follow.
All right.
So what is the word?
What is the thing that God reminded me is even more true today than it was when I released
it back then, which I think was about six or seven years ago.
Okay.
And that is that we have to prepare for the promised land.
If you wanted a title for today's Supernatural Saturday, we have to prepare for the promised
land.
You guys, the promised land is not an if, it's just a when.
It's not an if.
And God took his people out of bondage, out of slavery, out of Egypt.
And you guys, we all have an Egypt.
We all have an Egypt in our lives.
Lots of us have lots of Egypt in our lives, right?
It's like we're headed towards something new.
And then boom, we're back in Egypt, like, hey, how did I get here?
So we all have lots of Egypt, right?
But when he is taking his people, he heard their cries, he saw their oppression, he delivered
them out of bondage, out of barrenness, out of lack, out of scarcity, out of orphan mentalities
and slave mentalities and, you know, all of those things.
When he did that, he had a plan.
God had a plan.
God always has a plan.
And here's the good news for you guys.
Jeremiah tells us, and we quote it all the time, God says, I know the plans I have for
you.
Remember the word plans in that verse is plural.
It's not I know the plan I have for you.
It's I know the plans I have for you.
Why is that important?
Because we mess up God's plan all the time.
We zig instead of zag.
We go left instead of right.
We think we know better.
We hear the word of the Lord.
He tells us to do something.
We only do it halfway.
I mean, he knows what we're made of, which is pretty much dirt, okay?
His word says that he sees the frailty of our form.
He knows that this flesh is always trying to pull us in the wrong directions.
He knows that fear that tries to constantly dog our steps, you guys, the biggest enemy
that we have on earth is the opposite of love.
God is love.
We've been made for love, by love, to love.
And the issue is, is that fear, which is the opposite of love, not hate, fear.
Hate is just a byproduct of fear, right?
Fear is constantly trying to get us to not do the things
that God is inviting us into.
He's not telling us to do it.
I need you to get rid of that kind of mindset.
God invites you.
He's constantly inviting you, and guess what?
If you turn down an invitation, there will be another one.
Now, I don't say that to help you to be apathetic,
but I want to remind you that God has plans.
Now, they're not all gonna look the same,
and it is true that if we turn down one invitation,
the next invitation may be
to take a totally different course.
You know, David and I were talking about this yesterday.
We're talking about the divorce of his parents.
His dad is 84 years old this year.
They've been divorced since he was three years old.
His dad was in the Air Force.
He was, you know, full-time in the Air Force.
His mom didn't like that life.
This is back in the 70s when everyone was getting divorced.
His mom was not a believer, and she just left his dad.
She's like, I don't want this Air Force life.
So she took her three-year-old David, and she left,
and she married another man,
and she moved and had a little suburban life
in the Midwest.
But, you know, he never remarried David's father,
and at 84 years old, he told my husband a couple days ago,
you know, I still love your mother.
That's heartbreaking.
But, you know, she didn't know Jesus.
She took a different course.
She took a different road.
There was a detour in the road, and she took it.
Right?
But David and I began to talk about, you know,
what would have happened had all the people
that come before us made different decisions.
What would that have looked like?
What would have my life looked like
if I hadn't been raised on the, you know,
on the plains of the Serengeti by the wolves?
You know, what would have happened
if David's parents would have stayed together?
You know, and the truth is,
is that David and I probably would not have met.
We probably wouldn't be living this current reality,
and someone has to get ahold of that,
because that's where Romans 828 comes into play,
where God works all things to the good, right?
Yeah, it is kind of like when we were kids
in those choose-your-own-adventures books.
There is going to be a different adventure based on choices.
There is.
But the good news is that God
always has a new good plan for you
if you're willing to turn away from your plan
and turn towards his.
And there's always gonna be an invitation
until your last breath on earth to go God's way,
to experience his reality for your life,
which is what?
John 1010, abundance, overflow, goodness,
blessed to be a blessing, peace, prosperity.
I know people hate that.
You know, Jerry Savelle just passed away,
and I love, love, love his daughter,
and I love her ministry,
and, you know, she had a good daddy,
and she is mourning her father.
And for all of you that had good earthly fathers,
be blessed because that is few and far between.
But I was looking at the tributes that were up,
and the Christian Post did an article,
and it kind of was like a,
it was a tribute,
but then it was like a bashing at the end
because it was talking about
how he was a prosperity preacher and blah, blah, blah.
And then it quoted someone who literally,
I felt like saying, who's this person you're quoting?
I've never heard of them.
They're insignificant.
What they're saying means nothing,
but this person that you're, you know,
allowing them to bash has changed so many lives,
and his name is synonymous with, you know,
obviously family and being a good father
and being someone who preached in 3,500 churches,
revival and, you know, why?
Because of the word prosperity.
Oh, it's a prosperity preacher.
Well, I just want to let you know,
God wants you to prosper.
He wants you to prosper.
Does that mean like wearing a Rolex
and driving a Lambo and living in a mansion?
No, that's not what the word prosper means.
It means that you would be abundant,
that you would overflow.
And anyone who says that the gospel
is not a prosperity gospel,
they didn't read it right.
It doesn't do your father in heaven
any good for you to be in scarcity and in lack.
The problem is,
is that we live there because of our mindsets.
And we see this in the story of the people
that were coming out of slavery and bondage,
and God was taking them to a land that was what?
Overflowing, isn't that what the word of God says?
Overflowing with things, you know,
we're like milk and honey, okay, who wants that?
Well, back then those were examples of prosperity, right?
Those are typologies
of there being an abundance of good things.
And God wants that for us.
He wants that for each and every one of us
in our lives.
And yes, it's gonna look different on all of us,
but at the same time, that's what God wants for us.
So he's.
telling his people, hey, I'm going to take you to this thing.
But remember, they've never seen this thing.
And that's a lot of us.
You've never seen a good marriage.
You've never seen a good marriage in your whole life.
Hey, you've never seen the things that, you know, God has promised you in your
dreams or promised you in the words that you've received.
And, and because of that, you dream up what it looks like yourself.
And a lot of times, most of the time, whatever it is that you're dreaming
up, it's really inferior to what God has for you and what's going to show
up to fulfill the promise that God has in your life.
A lot of times it's not going to look the way you expect it.
Q children of Israel get to the border of the promised land.
And they're like, Oh no, there's giants in here.
Right.
I mean, literally you guys, God just parted a whole fricking sea for them.
Drowned Pharaoh's army caused them to have water coming out of rocks and
food falling from the sky, but yet no.
But here's the thing.
I don't want to get into that.
Cause we all do that.
We are like, we all, we all forget what God's done for us in the past or what
God's done right in front of our face for other people.
And we all doubt and we all get into fear.
Cause once again, it's that frailty of our flesh.
That's what it is.
And it's always going to be with us.
Even Paul said, Oh, this flesh, when am I going to be free of it?
Right?
So the thing that I really want to talk to you today about is that how to
prepare for that promised land, how to prepare for it, how do we do that?
What do we need to do?
It's going to be an individual thing.
And you're going to have to start asking the Lord about that for yourself
because it's not an, if you guys, it is just a, when it's just a, when at the
other day at the grocery store, I saw the front of a magazine and I snapped a
picture of it and it just said, I fell in love when I least expected it.
And the reason why I'm using love as the fruition of your promises this morning
is because so many of you, you know, that is the uppermost thing on your
heart is that you want your partner.
Now, Holy Spirit might speak to you about something completely different
today that you need to prepare for.
Something completely different today that, you know, is eminent and is going
to be the first thing, the first promise fulfilled in your life before the partner.
And we have that happen so often.
We just had a marriage from within this community.
And I know that God fulfilled a lot of other promises in both of their lives
before he brought them together to partner.
And so that definitely happens.
So the first thing that we have to remember is that the relationship
with God is the most important thing.
Got to keep the main thing, the main thing, right?
We're not looking for another person to fill the God shaped hole.
We're not.
Okay.
And at the same time, we're not, you know, thinking that we're
married to Jesus on earth because we're not.
Okay.
There's a, there's a tension that you have to hold between those two things.
God is source, but he is the head of the human resource department.
And he does want to send people into your life for all different reasons
to bring the healing that you need.
So the first thing that we have to remember is that we have to
keep the main thing, the main thing.
Don't forget God.
In fact, write this down in your notes.
Remember God.
Oftentimes when people have been single for a long time, or, you know, maybe
even just a short time, but you're the kind of person who just only, uh, get
your little love tank filled by another human being, when you get into
relationship, you start to get kind of dull spiritually, and I'm just going to
tell you, marriage is the wild, wild West in 2024, if you don't have that
threefold cord, you're probably not going to stay married, so it's important
for you to have that foundation of trust and relationship with God.
Yes.
Your relationship with God is going to grow when you meet your spirit mate.
Why?
Because you're going to see a whole new element of God through this
person, a whole new level of love, of grace, of mercy, you know,
that's what it should look like.
You should feel even more loved and seen and known by God, um,
through the person that you marry.
It's not going to all be rainbows and butterflies, but it is going to be that
type of refining that makes us better and draws us closer to each other and to God.
So remember God, whatever you have to do in your life right now, if your life
right now is just you running around, you know, with a tarantula hanging
off your butt, trying to survive.
If that's what your life looks like right now, that's what's
going to look like in marriage.
Right?
If you haven't learned how to go to God with your needs, your Jesus cares
board, for those of you that are still in heartwork, haven't heard about that
yet, you're going to hear about it.
You guys, that is a activation of a lifestyle.
It's not just a cute little craft project that we do in this program.
It's an activation of a lifestyle.
You have not been created or designed to carry your own burden.
You can't carry it.
Other people can carry it for you and you can give it to God.
Those are the two things in the word of God.
that talk about what you should do with those heavy burdens, right?
So the next thing is, is that we have to remember not to accept a counterfeit.
In the book of Numbers, you guys, if you go and read it, it talks a lot about the exodus
to the promised land.
It talks a lot about the instructions and like the little nitty gritty details of what
happened in that story that I started this call out with.
And one of the things that I don't think a lot of people see is that there were a group
of people that when they got to the banks of the Jordan, they actually, because they
had brought a lot of livestock with them, they were like, hey, this is really good land
right here.
So why don't you all go ahead and go ahead into the promised land and we'll just stay
here.
This will be our land.
We'll stay here.
They were willing to stay on the other side, y'all.
They were willing to stay on the other side.
And there are probably a couple different reasons.
Oh, you know, this is good enough.
Yeah, this looks good.
All right, we'll take this.
This is here, you know, that's there.
This is here.
It's right now.
A lot of times we don't want to wait for something good.
Who here will admit that you've, you know, instead of going home where you know that
you went grocery shopping and there's some good whole foods in your fridge, you pull
through Taco Bell because you just can't wait, right?
And then you regret it later because there's a reason why Taco Bell has 99 cent anything.
So this is what these people were doing.
They're like, oh, we'll just stay here.
And then the other reason is, is that it's hard.
There's giants in the land.
There's all these things.
And so we're not going to accept a counterfeit just because it's easier.
We're not going to do that in any area of your life, not just your love life, in any
area of your life.
We're not going to settle for less.
And for those of you that, you know, you still got some hard work to do, you might hear something
different right now than what I'm saying.
You might hear that, oh, this person has to have all my list items.
No, your list items are based on your own broken heart.
And as you continue to unpack that, the non-negotiables from heaven will be the things that are left.
And then that's all.
So we're not going to forget our history.
We're not going to forget God.
We're not going to forget where we've come from and what God's done for us.
And we get whatever it is that we want in our hot little hands, whatever it is you're
thinking of right now, whatever promise it is, that's uppermost on your heart.
We're not going to be swayed by any kind of counterfeit prosperity before we get there.
We know God's way is the best way and his promises are the best and, you know, they're
not going to show up all the time looking like, you know, sitting in a gold chair being,
you know, fans and eating grapes.
It's not what it looks like.
It's going to look like work.
These relationships that you've been pining away for, they're going to look like work.
There's going to be just as much hard stuff in that than there is going to be good stuff.
And sometimes the hard stuff is the good stuff.
Some of you that hate process need to know this.
The process is the point.
It is.
The pregnancy is the point.
It is.
God creates the heart that is able to then sustain and steward the promise.
Very important stuff for us all to know.
And then we have to remember, hey, let's not, they were told not to defile the land, right?
Don't bring a bunch of crap here that is going to ruin this opportunity.
And so that's where we have to continue to ask God to show us anything in our heart that
is going to sabotage whatever it is that we've been praying for and promised and waiting
for and hoping for.
We don't want that.
Yes, there are going to be hard bits no matter what, but we can make it a lot harder and
maybe even make it not happen based on our preparation, right?
Good news.
There's another plan, but maybe you just want this plan.
Anybody else?
Anybody else just want this plan?
You don't want to have to wait for another ship to come into port.
Yeah.
And so let's not defile the land.
Let's not bring a bunch of stuff in there.
And you guys, the way we're going to do that is it's going to come into, it's going to
come in our hearts.
That's where we're going to be carrying it.
Those were the suitcases are that we're going to be bringing into whatever it is that we're
invited into.
Okay.
Whether it's the relationship that you've been waiting for, whether it's that job promotion
you've been waiting for, because with everything that you want, there comes some ick.
Remember, there was giants in the land.
There's going to be some ick in everything.
Some of you millennials need to write that down.
The guy that I am waiting for has some icks.
That's a very young person thing to say.
And a lot of people are letting their icks sabotage things.
And so let's not do that.
So we need to take a look.
We need to let God put that.
magnifying glass on with us and take a look at what's still what's still
squatting in your heart. Where are the squatters? Fear squatting in there?
Is unforgiveness, is bitterness squatting in there? Look, if you have unforgiveness
or bitterness towards a former spouse, if you don't think that that's going to get
applied to your new spouse sooner or later, you're wrong. You're wrong. The
second that they do something that subconsciously reminds you of what the
other person did, even if it's just your perspective and not even a real thing,
you're gonna start telling yourself a really nasty story
that's going to cause disconnection. So these are important things, you guys. And
I think for some of you, this is just residue we're talking about. This is not
big things that we're moving out. You know, you've moved a lot of stuff out of
the house. You've taken a lot of stuff to the Goodwill. You've dropped it off. You've
done the things in your heart, but there's just some sweeping that needs to
be done right now, right? There's just a little dusting.
There's just a little more. And some of you, you haven't
even started. Your heart looks like an episode of Hoarders, and that's all right.
We're here to help you. You're brand new. We're gonna help you get it done at an
accelerated pace. So we're looking to God always. We're not forgetting our history.
We're not forgetting God. We're remembering God. We're not defiling the
land by bringing a bunch of stuff in. We're not going to be swayed by any
counterfeit opportunities. We're not going to do any of that stuff. And the
other thing that we're going to do is, we're going to, what did he, what's the
instruction that he gave when they came into the land? He said, hey, all of these,
all of these other inhabitants of the land, they have to go, right? They can't
stay. All the Ites, right? The Perizzites and the Amicalites and the Hebusites and
what can go on and on and on. And I can mispronounce every one of them on this
call this morning for your enjoyment, but they got to go. They can't stay. And those
represent all kinds of different things in our lives. And you guys, sometimes they
disrepresent opportunities and people and situations and relationships that
have way outlived their time in our lives. So many people really have a
problem pruning and you got to do it. You got to prune. You have to prune. You
can't have everything all at the same time. And you guys, some of the things
that you're going to prune are going to be good things. I'm sure that not all, I
mean, all these people were pagans in the land, but you know, I'm sure that there
were some good elements of some of the things like, hey, you know, if I let this,
this, this, this group of people stay, you know, they're really good at this and
they could teach us how to do this or this could happen or that could happen.
I'm sure that some of the things that you're going to
forget to be things that you're like, yeah, I really liked that
in its season. And yeah, there's still some benefit left in it, but does it lead
you to where you want to go?
Your, your main, main commodity, your main resource that all of us have is time.
And so for a lot of you, it's just simply, you have a lot of time sucks in
your life. And I run into this all the time in any kind of private coaching that
I do is that someone tells me that they want something, but then I look at their
schedule and I'm like, do you really want it? Because your, your schedule does not
tell me that you want it. How are you going to fit it in here? You obviously
don't have a really good idea of how much time it takes to do whatever it is
they're telling me X, Y, Z, and you guys relationships are going to have to be a
main priority. And they take a lot of time.
If you're going to do them, right. In fact, a lot of you all are divorced here
today because someone didn't make you a priority.
Right.
You're divorced here today because someone didn't do this list that I'm saying
right now.
They defiled the land.
They did all the things
I'm a right.
All right. So we're going to have fun today with this list. You might even add
a few things to it while I'm gone. But I have to jump off today. Bethany is going
to take over and you guys are going to be able to share and process and do all
the things. And I just want to tell all of you that I really believe all my heart
or not.
Her last name or mine.
I believe with all of my heart that the reason why this message is coming right
now is because it's of the utmost importance because we're at the Jordan
and a lot of good, good things are going to happen in the year 2024. Right. So
bless you guys. And I'll see you soon.
So
Oh, powerful, so powerful, man.
There's so many truth points.
I'm going to pray.
And then we're going to just start to lean into this word that
Jackie has released over us.
And as Jackie said, just as we continue to activate and process in these areas,
I want to encourage you guys, you know, there's several different points there.
They can all speak and minister to us.
I want to see you start putting into the chat.
I want you to start engaging with this word.
Like what is the, what's the area that's speaking to you the most right now today.
And that you'll continue to process this word as the weeks go on and let
God continue to speak to you in this word and revisit it.
One of the things I've learned the most over the last several years is that,
you know, we can hear a word and get massive revelation that day and
then walk away and forget it.
And not even go back to it.
So I want to encourage you guys to don't do that.
Go back to this word, revisit it and let God continue to speak to you.
So father, we just thank you for this amazing, incredible word.
We thank you for the freedom that it's going to bring today.
And in the days to come, we thank you, God.
For the time of preparation for the time of remembering you, God, first and
foremost, keeping you at the center, God, the time of not accepting counterfeit,
not accepting the things that the enemy is sending that look good.
That looks similar to where you're leading, but aren't the true thing.
We thank you God for reminding us to not allow the land that you're leading us
into, to get defiled by our own issues, by squatters that we allow to remain in
our hearts and Lord help us to know the areas that we need to remember to prune
and let go and allow you to transform us from the inside out.
So Lord, I pray that you would make this word very real to every person
that's here today live, as well as those that will hear the replay, help us to
lean in and hear what your heart is saying to us today in Jesus name.
So would love for somebody, um, we're going to open it up.
I want to hear from you guys.
Let's talk about this word.
What is God speaking to some of you?
Um, and we'll kind of just, we'll, we'll follow the Holy spirit and
just see what else he wants to do.
Who wants to go first?
Bethany, I'll go first.
Um, I just was really ministered to when she said, are you willing to stay on
the other side and just camp out there, um, without doing the full work that
God is requiring, because a lot of us know that when we get into that personal
relationship, he's calling us to go further than we would want to go.
Um, and it's oftentimes work that's very intimidating and it is full of fear.
And a lot of times I know myself I've camped out in that.
And I just want to turn from that and just do the full work, um, that he, he is
requiring so that I am fully ready for that, that mate.
Yes, Mary, that's so good.
Who else can relate to Mary?
Like, you're just feeling like you want to go into the promised land, but you
keep camping out waiting on the other side because you're just not sure.
Let's just, let's call it what it is.
You're not sure if God's going to come through for you.
You're not sure if you, if you actually take that step to go into the promised
land, is he going to fulfill the promises that are attached to the process?
And that's what Jackie's talking about.
All that fear, you guys remember she said, you know, fear is all, it's all
connected to all those frailties in our flesh.
So fear also, if you guys take time to look at it, as you remember back to
heartwork, there's lies associated and connected to it.
So what lies are you believing?
Are we believing that keep us in this place of camping out this place of not
really believe in that God's going to give me the blessing that I see him
doing in other people's lives, justifying the continuing to put ourself on the
shelf or, or say, you know what?
I can't, I can't go forward yet.
Cause I need to analyze this other area.
I need to, I need to, you know, make sure this thing's in line and all of those
things are good as long as they don't keep us in bondage.
Yep.
Somebody needs to get rid of their list today.
You need to get rid of your list.
Who else wants to share it?
Let's keep processing this.
That was really great, Mary.
Yeah, I'll share Bethany.
Hey guys I think, well, so much of this hit home for me, but the one about making
sure that the relationship with God is the main thing and you know, it's in
scripture, remember the works of the Lord.
And, and I guess this kind of goes back even to.
We were just saying that we're camping out on the other side,
and that's where familiarity is, perhaps.
But for me, as a single mom, it's
like I'm just for so long conditioned
to have to do everything on my own
that God isn't and hasn't always been the first place that I go.
And even just recently with this,
the heart work that we're doing and the hope, and I had hope.
And I would ask for some things, and he actually gave it to me.
And then by the third thing I was asking for,
which was I have some surgery on my eyes, some things going on,
and I'm like, am I even allowed to ask?
And I'm like, yes, yes, I need.
I'm allowed to ask these things.
And he has, I just had to come back to that scripture,
remember the works of the Lord, and to say, hey,
these are the things.
And it's just such a process, because like I said,
I'm just not used to that.
I'm used to just relying on myself, and not
even other people, so just totally on me.
All right, I know this is speaking to some people.
How many of you don't think you can actually
ask for what you want?
Not just what you need, but what you want.
Let's see.
How many people are afraid to actually ask God
for what you want?
I don't know that I'm afraid to ask for it.
I've struggled with the unbelief and doubt
that he will truly give it to me.
Right, so that's connected to where
we were just kind of packing through on our way through.
So lean into that a little bit more for those of you
that can relate to what Janine just said.
So often, again, it goes back to what Jackie was saying too.
If we have orphan beliefs and limiting mindsets
that we live in, or we don't even mean to camp out there,
you all, we don't.
It's just that we don't have revelation yet
in the area that we need it so that we can walk
into the fullness and the abundant life
that God wants to give us.
So some of you that you're like,
I'm trying everything I know to do,
but I still am struggling to believe
that God is gonna come through for me.
I would encourage you to ask the Lord,
like where are those orphan mentalities
and limiting beliefs coming from?
Because they're coming from somewhere.
A lot of times they're rooted in abandonment
and rejection that happened when we were young.
Sometimes it can even happen as we're growing older
because those wounds when we were younger
aren't resolved and healed.
And so as we're older and other things happen
that kind of feel familiar,
kind of like Jackie was talking about,
when you get into marriage, it's so true you all,
how many times, like if you don't deal with old stuff
from former spouses, how easy and quick the enemy
will try to come in and trigger you
to make you think that even though some,
the person now is totally different,
to make you believe that what they're saying or doing
is exactly like the other person.
But you have to separate the character.
There's a difference.
But so many times we let the triggering lead,
keep us from receiving the truth
that the people are different, that we're different.
And some of you guys are gonna experience this
in dating too, you are.
And so, go ahead, go ahead.
Just yesterday, oh, go ahead.
All right, Janine go first.
And then I don't know,
I can't tell who else was trying to talk.
It was me, but go ahead, Janine, I'll go after you.
I didn't, just yesterday, I'm in this menopausal state
and I'm exercising, I'm doing pickleball every day
and I'm not getting to my body to where I was.
And just yesterday I had this thought
about how my body wasn't good enough for my husband.
And that was one of the reasons why he left me.
And that was, and I was just like, oh gosh,
I realized that that's an underlying fear I have
that my body will not be good enough
for the type of man I'm looking for.
Cause I would like somebody who's physically fit
and everything.
And it's just, I had to say, oh Lord, please help me.
And this morning, this message brought it right back.
Anna Marie, hold on one sec.
I'm gonna lean into this
because I don't want the guys to check out on us here
because here's what I'm gonna tell you.
Y'all, men deal with this too.
Men get into relationship
and if they've had a woman speak negatively to them
about their body in any way, yes, men deal with it too.
I can tell you from experience.
If your former spouse or former girlfriends
or former fiances have said anything negative
about your body, men or women,
you need to receive healing for that
before you enter into the new marriage, as much as you can.
Some of that healing is gonna come
from the new relationship, okay?
So you just do the best you can.
You can, until you get into that spirit mate relationship, like Jackie said,
where trials and trouble will come, but that new person that's healthy, that's
whole, they're going to have mercy.
They're going to extend love to you.
It's going to feel safe, even when it feels hard.
Conflict is a part of life, but learning how to navigate that in a new environment
and a new experience that is with a healthy person, man, that's healing is
incredible.
I can tell, I'm seriously like Jackie's telling you guys this, but I'm saying to
you from, from being married a year and a half, I can tell you 100%, that is so
true.
So true.
So thank you, Jeanine, for your vulnerability and for what you shared,
because I do think there are a lot of people that while we're talking about a
lot of other things, maybe your thing isn't body image.
Maybe your thing is finances because man, that can get right into it too.
A lot of hot buttons for me regarding finances.
I was abandoned in so many ways financially in my former marriage and, and it was, it
was very, very damaging to me.
So I've had to come out a lot of that, you know, before I came into my marriage and
even after, even up to last week, we were working on and talking through things and
I'm continuing to be reminded that my, my husband is not like what I experienced
before.
Okay.
So that whoever that's for lean into that, receive that.
God has something special for you in that.
Anna Marie, go ahead.
Thank you, Bethany.
It's such a good word.
And, and Jeanine, I wanted to thank you for being so, so vulnerable too because
you're not alone.
And I just wanted to share with you guys, just, I haven't been on the calls lately
and it's literally because of what Jackie said, like once you, I'm now engaged and
once you get in the relationship and in the engagement, it's a whole other level
of healing.
And it's a whole other level of involvement.
So it's not that we don't care and we don't want to be on the call with you
guys.
We absolutely do.
Cause I've seen it with so many of our sisters in particular that have gotten
engaged or married.
We're like, where'd they go?
It's not like, Hey, this program did its job and we're done.
It's just, you're in a new phase, a totally new phase.
That's extremely time consuming.
We're still doing the prayers, just maybe not on the call, but still living that out
and praying for our community and everything.
But what Bethany was saying about the next level of healing that you get, I want to
share this cause this is what God showed me and he could only show me it once I got
to this phase, I couldn't see it before.
And I hope this encourages you guys.
Most of us on this call, I would venture to say almost all of us are on this call
because we have no nothing but unhealthy relationships, right?
We have no nothing but unsafety in relationships, whether that's from our
families of origin or ex-husbands and wives or just former friendships and
relationships.
So Janine, your, your fear, and that was my fear.
And that's probably a lot of our fears.
Those are rooted in the only benchmark we know unhealthy people.
But I promise you, imagine you're in a giant ballroom and there's a curtain in
the center of the ballroom.
You're on one side.
That's called the unhealthy side, right?
But the other side of that curtain is healthy.
And we've never been there.
We don't know what that's like and what this ministry, what this business tree is
doing is it's slowly inching us toward the curtain.
And once we are there at the curtain and it is removed and we're on the other side,
it is a whole new world of people that we didn't know existed.
And these, and I can only speak from the female perspective.
So gentlemen, bear with me, but here, let's flip it for you.
There are going to be people that you're going to meet that.
They are so entrenched in a walk with Jesus that they're not looking at the
extra 20 pounds you're carrying around.
I'm speaking for myself, ladies, or like, you know, whatever flaws we think we
have, I've been sitting here amazed at how, because my fiance is so rooted in a
walk with Jesus and he's not perfect, but he's rooted in a walk that there are
things that other people in my life were so turned off about me.
Oh, you, you, this, you, that, that this man, I'm not saying he loves these
things, but he's just like, well, honey, you're human.
You know, he has grace.
And I am just sitting here every day.
Like Jesus, is this real life?
Is this real?
But it is.
And there's healing that comes from it because now I feel safe for the first
time ever to be myself, to be all of myself, to not have to be perfect, to not
have to cover up or compensate for my flaws.
When somebody shows you, they want to love all of you the way that the Lord
tries to love, you know, loves all of us.
You can become the best version of yourself and flourish.
And so, yes.
it's not easy. There are light layers that are going to come with the next phase of relationship
that are going to be super challenging. But our job is to keep pressing into Jesus, because he's
going to keep shining the truth. I admit, and Bethany knows, I went to her, I was like,
you know, about certain things. And she's just like, do not make rash decisions,
stand firm in the Lord. And I'm so thankful she gave me that advice. Because when I pressed through
and got to the other side, and tapped into some additional resources, it was like, truth was
shown, I realized it was fear. And that's the word, okay, that's the word, fear. I had been
with Jackie's ministry since February of 2022. And I hope the ladies that have been in the program
with me since then, I hope y'all would say I worked it like no one's business, because I
really did. I was ready to change my life. And so this was everything. And in that, what the Lord
did is he was stripping me of fear, fear, I did not even know I had, he was showing me all the
areas that I was believing a lie or fearing something. And as he was stripping me, and he
was stripping me of relationships, friendships, you name it. I mean, I was so bare bones before I met
my fiance, that I had to get there, I had to get there to not only make room for him, but room for
him mentally, because he has everything I ever wanted, but he came in a package that is very
different than what I would have expected or necessarily wanted. So keep that in mind your
person, maybe your person will be everything you ever wanted, but he or she may not look exactly
the way you thought in the package that God presents. But when he strips you, he strips you
so your eyes could be opened to what he's doing. And I'm going to stop but that that's everything.
Thanks guys. So good. And you know, just I see Nitton too, I'm going to come to you Nitton.
One of the things I want to say, because we all use different verbiage, some people that have a
very tough time relating to God as a loving God, if they hear the word stripping, they're like,
oh my God, and you're freaking out right now. So I want to encourage you, I always try to remind
everybody, it's always an invitation. Jackie said that earlier. Okay. So even the pruning, even like
basically, that's kind of what Anna's leaning into as well. There was a lot of pruning that
needed to happen there. But even in the pruning, you know, there are times where if you have ever
done plants or stuff, you are going to see something that needs clipped. And as the person
pruning, you're doing that. Why? From a posture of love, right? Because you want that plant to grow
bigger, you want it to flourish, maybe, maybe every, you know, certain trees have to be pruned
every year because they grow a more abundant, you know, flowers or whatever in that next season,
because it is pruned. But it's not God coming and just ripping something from you, okay? So I really
want to make sure that people don't mishear what is being said when Anna's saying, you know, the
word stripping away, because God isn't one to just expose you and cause nakedness.
You know what I'm saying? You all hear what I'm saying? It's an invitation. It's an invitation. He
comes and he knocks on the door of our hearts and he says, I'm here, will you let me in? So today,
all of these things that you're hearing about, it's all an invitation. You guys can choose, we
all, myself included, y'all, I'm already married, but there's so much in this message. You know,
we're preparing to move. We have several offers right now on the table. We're trying to navigate
where do we go from here? This word is a relevant word, no matter what season you are in to lean
into. So keep leaning in. I do want to talk about the pruning. I want to hear from some people about
what is God nudging you to prune, so be ready. Nitin, I want to come to you. I just want to
share a testimony and make it quick. In 2004, I was engaged and God broke the engagement and I was
desperate to find a wife. And God said to me, my way or the highway. And I had to lay it down
and I chose God. God brought me under my spiritual mom and dad. And he, through my spiritual parents,
chiseled me so that I could learn about what it is to be a man, spiritual leader, husband, father.
For at least 10, 15 years, I hardly dated. In fact, there were hardly any dates I can recollect.
I was in the wilderness season and it was a time of pruning. It was a time of God saying,
I want to see, are you going to trust me when it gets really hard that you don't get what you want
in the time you want? And are you going to trust me? So I dig my heels so deep.
the word of God was my girlfriend, right?
And I spent hours, months into it.
And I just, and it was hard.
It was not easy, but I did not let go of God.
And over those years, God, he was my only,
there was no like handicap, like we say in golf.
He was my only source.
And did I try?
Yes.
But the grace started coming in
to keep moving on the single journey.
And when I got hold of Jackie's ministry,
I thought I was ready.
So when the hard work came, oh boy, that was tough.
But I knew that I had the grace of God
that I had to go through hard work.
And then another layer came off of lies that I had believed.
So all I'm saying is I never gave up
because God was with me,
but I had to make him my first choice.
And seriously, today, a couple of weeks,
I was just sitting with the Lord.
I'm just praying about the spirit made.
And he told me, Nathan, you are ready.
And in fact, this morning,
I just had a dream that God said, okay,
this is the right time, this is the right season.
So I will encourage ladies
and especially Ann Marie's testimony as well,
do not give up, rely on God,
even when it gets tough because he never fails.
And when you are ready,
that person who is there for he has selected for you,
he will present you as he presented Eve to Adam.
Can we get an amen in the chat?
Nitin, thank you for sharing.
That was so good.
It was ministering to me as a reminder not to give up,
that we would not become weary and well-doing
for in due season, we shall reap if we faint not.
You all, 100%, we believe in this community
that we can pray and lean into God.
Thank you that you're gonna cause my spirit mate to find me
and you're gonna cause me to find my spirit mate.
Over and over and over, I declared that truth, you all.
And it was so in my life.
And I believe, you know, God is not a respecter of person.
So for those of you that are still struggling
on the dating apps, you know, here's my word for you.
I'm not saying it's not difficult,
but what I'm going to say to you is we can stay,
no matter what our trial is,
whether it's dating apps, jobs, whatever,
we can stay in the mindset and the heart posture
of it's not happening, it's not happening.
It's not, this isn't working, this isn't working,
this isn't working.
Or we can say, God, it hasn't worked yet,
but God, I thank you that you're drawing
healthy connections to me
and you're drawing me to healthy connections
and you're gonna lead me to my spirit mate.
Total difference in the way we posture ourselves, you all.
And it does matter, it does matter.
So on that note, that aligns with the remember God.
You know, even when the struggle is hard on a dating app
or even you go on a date,
some of you guys are gonna have dates
that aren't gonna be great.
Okay, let's just speak truth.
I had some dates that weren't great.
I had, I went on a date with a guy
that every time I got together with him,
he was trying to talk about sex, trying to talk about sex.
I'm like, really, for the fourth time,
I'm not talking about this.
He was a nice guy.
I'm glad I went on the dates
because I learned a lot about myself with that.
I learned I could set healthy boundaries
and I could be kind in the process
and I didn't have to bash him.
You know, we're all learning.
We're all growing.
So we can extend grace.
We can extend grace and stand in truth.
What was the passage I just quoted?
I'm not sure.
Hold that for a second, Kelly.
Hold that for a second.
I don't know.
Sometimes I'm just going with it.
And so I have no clue what I even said to you all.
So if someone knows what scripture I said,
someone I'll share.
But I'm actually, I've seen Elizabeth Fishman waiting.
So I'm gonna go to her next.
If you can hold that.
And Kelly, we'll come to you if we're able, okay?
Yeah, thank you so much, Bethany.
This has been like really ministering to me.
And especially like when Anna was sharing her testimony,
I do also feel like I'm like the curtain.
For me, it's been like, oh, stepping through the door,
like onto the green pastures, the green grass.
And in ways like it feels like the scariest place to be,
but it also feels like the safest place to be
at the same time, just because of what God's doing
and just pruning like areas.
And it has been an invitation for years for me,
but for me, it's...
It's really been this vulnerable place of who I am
without all the survivor's guilt.
I explained before loss of suicide in my family.
And because of that, my identity was so wrapped around that.
And because I had dealt with a lot of rejection
from my family and even my own mom,
there was like a lie that I believed like,
well, like who possibly would accept me in my fullness
if my own mother like wasn't able to, you know?
And so I met this guy actually recently,
we're in the beginning stages of getting to know each other.
And he seems like a great guy.
And for me, it's just, it's been scary,
but I have like close friends where I'm like,
hey, for years, these are my,
like one of the things Jackie was talking about
was sabotage.
And so I'm like letting my friends in like,
hey, there's this really great guy.
I don't wanna mess this up.
I don't wanna sabotage it.
So here's some of my behaviors.
Here's some of the things that I do or say or believe,
just like letting them in on my process.
And it's been, as you mentioned before, Bethany,
I feel like naked, I feel exposed,
but I'm letting God heal those areas
that have been so like deeply hidden inside of me.
And so I just like bringing everything to the light.
And yeah, I'm excited for what's to come.
Like, yes, it's scary, but I'm also very excited
because I'm stepping into the unknown
and yeah, so starting to like really believe
that I'm worthy of that kind of love
because that's what God has is best for me.
Yeah, so.
Yes.
Very vulnerable to share that,
but I just felt the need to share that with you all.
I'm so glad you shared.
And there's a lot of people relating
to things that you're sharing, Elizabeth.
One of the things that came to my spirit
that I feel like will be really good
in alignment with Jackie's word,
as well as some of the things Elizabeth's sharing.
Years ago, I was walking through some stuff.
I mean, this has been forever ago,
but long before I came into this community.
And I used to always get frustrated like with the word,
people are always like,
oh, go for the light at the end of the tunnel.
You're moving towards the light at the end of the tunnel.
I would get so frustrated with that
because I'm like, I don't wanna have to walk
through this dark area and wait for one day,
I'm gonna get to the light.
And the Holy Spirit came so tangible and real to me.
And he said, you don't have to.
And I was like, what?
And he's like, I am the light and I live in you.
So everywhere you go, there is light.
There is, and there is no darkness in him, you all.
Some of us need to really meditate on that word alone.
There is no darkness in him.
And so the reality is this,
while I love the concept of the curtain,
I love the concept of when I get into the green pasture,
when we get out of the darkness,
but what I wanna kind of say to you guys
is like, here's the thing.
If God is with us, if he's gone before us,
he's with us and he's behind us,
there is literally never a moment that we're without him.
There's literally never a moment that his light
is not there to permeate any amount of darkness
and expel it from our life.
But so many times, again,
it goes back to our connection with the father.
And I love what you shared.
You said, who would accept me in my fullness
if my own mother couldn't?
And so to me right there, those are, again,
those revealings for healing
because we haven't maybe in the past experienced
amazing love, how sweet the sound
that saved a wretch like me.
And that also came to bless my life.
The goodness of God can be seen and experienced
in the land of the living, you all.
It's not God wants you to struggle, struggle, struggle,
struggle, struggle your whole life
and you never experienced good.
Yes, Jackie declared it.
We are going to struggle.
We're going to face trials.
We're going to have them in the spirit-mate connections.
You're going to have them in dating
or have them in engagement.
You're going to have them in marriage.
But the reality is, is when our understanding
who the Father is, and that he literally never leaves us.
He never forsakes us.
He's walking all the way through with us.
The Holy Spirit was sent as our comforter, our counselor,
and our guide, and so much more.
But if he's all those things, why do we so often feel
like nobody's holding our hand?
Right?
Yeah, a lot of us, again, it goes back
to how we were informed in our relationships growing up,
and the Lord's wanting to heal those more.
Remember God, she said.
Remember who he is.
Remember that he's at the center.
Remember that he doesn't want you
to keep squatters in your heart.
He doesn't want you to have counterfeits.
He has a good, good plan for you.
He's so good, you all.
We're at 1057.
I can't even believe this already.
Ruth, I want to have you share next.
We'll get through as many as we can, you all.
But I want to trust Holy Spirit on this, too.
I had a main point about something Jackie said.
But the pruning thing has actually
come up at church recently.
And it was the example of it's not always about cutting off.
A vine dresser will actually prop up and raise up
the vines that are laying on the ground,
and so it can bear fruit.
So it's not always necessarily about cutting.
Sometimes it's just you need tender care,
or you need a chance for your fruit to develop.
And it's more gentler than what we've grown up believing,
that he cuts off everything, and it's thrown into the fire.
Yeah, it was quite a little bit of a mind switch of like, oh,
actually, he's kind to us, and he props us up and gives us
the time to grow our fruit.
Anyway, so that was the thing about pruning.
But the other thing is when Jackie
was talking about when we're thinking about the promised
land, we always think of this pie in the sky.
It's going to be perfection type idea.
And just the reminder that there was actually
giants in the land.
Yes, there's grapes the size of your head,
and there's milk and honey.
But there was still things to conquer and deal with.
And it's not just that fairy tale rainbows
and butterflies thing.
There is still work on the other side, which is kind of a nice,
it was just a nice little check of like, yeah.
Yes.
Man, God is moving through everything
that's being shared and said.
Even in the pruning, he's tender.
That's where, again, it's what do
we believe are the intentions of God's heart towards us?
In the pruning, in the asking us to let go in order to make room.
Some of you all, I just heard the Holy Spirit say,
and I'm not saying to be unwise if you
need money for a certain reason.
But some of you all work a second job just because you can.
And some of you all might need to let go of that second job
so that you can make room to date and get
to know a spirit mate.
I didn't have any plan on saying that.
I think that sincerely is from the Lord.
It's amazing that we can be boss babes
and amazing, incredible conquerors as men.
Y'all, it's not just boss babes.
It's the men.
Men get a lot of identity from their jobs and their financial.
Yes.
Sons and daughters, we do not derive our identity
from our jobs, from whatever title we have.
I can't tell you how long I wanted to move out
of the old job I was in.
And I knew God had more for me.
And that place would not promote me.
I know that I deserved the title.
I know that I did.
And I could never understand it or comprehend it.
But in that process, it's quite interesting.
Even after I've been gone from there for over three or two
years, two years, and it still bugs me
that they didn't give me the title
that I know I way more than accomplished.
But here's the thing.
That not happening was what really fueled me to leave.
Because God had this for me, you all.
I started coaching with this group in this community
long before I started getting paid for it.
And I'm so grateful that I did.
But I also had to take a leap of faith at one point
and let go of the old that I was still hanging on to.
Because it was security.
It was an audit.
Of course, I had to show up for work.
But it was an audit.
Was that kind of, okay, here's your paycheck
you're going to get.
I knew what to expect and all those things.
And I still do.
I don't want to give a wrong impression,
but I'm saying this for somebody this morning.
I couldn't receive this.
Like I have so much fun doing what I'm doing.
I am so blessed.
I get to see people set free.
Like to me, there's no greater joy.
I get to see people grow in their relationship
with Jesus Christ, God, the Father and the Holy Spirit.
There's no greater joy.
So some of you, some of you it's,
this is a word for you receive it
however you need to this morning.
What do you need to let God encourage you to let go of?
So that your hands are open and your heart is open
and your life is open and you have the room
to receive the new.
We love you guys.
I know there were other people that had hands up.
I would encourage you go and post in your groups,
men post in your group, women post in your groups.
We need to continue to talk about this.
This is a powerful word.
We encourage you guys every single week.
If you get ministered to on any prayer call,
any supernatural Saturday,
talk about those things in your group
because we need to be talking.
Yes, about the hard things.
Yes, about the things we're processing.
Yes, about the people you're dating,
but we need to talk about the breakthroughs,
the revelations, the insights,
because that's how other people get freedom
and revelation and insight as well.
Father, thank you for this word today.
Thank you for this amazing community
and your love that is so just relevant
and just so permeating this place.
We ask you to bless Jackie and David
in their travels today.
Keep them safe.
God, we thank you for their yes.
We thank you for everything that they're doing
to pioneer and climb the mountain of marriage and family
so that we also can partner with them and with you in this.
Bless our days.
Help us to continue to hear
what your spirit is saying to us in Jesus name.
We love you guys.
We'll see you guys.
Hopefully you'll join us on Sunday night activation
and any other time that we go live or have prayer.
Be blessed.
God loves you all.