All right, so welcome everyone to your heart check-in.
Obviously there's another heart check-in tonight at 8 p.m.
and Bethany will be with you for that one.
Wanted to kind of show my face in here.
Raise your hand if you're newer
and you've never done a heart check-in with me before.
Okay, awesome.
So last time you saw me was at the challenge, right?
And now you're in heart work,
you're in phase one and you're doing good.
And so I wanted to make sure that I showed up
and did a heart check-in for this group of ladies
before we have all of our new ladies
that will be joining us here in the next week or so.
So a couple, just a couple little bits,
little tidbits of housekeeping here at the beginning.
Welcome to anyone who's new.
How many of you, this is your very first heart check-in,
you've never been to a heart check-in before?
Anybody?
Jen and Amberly, awesome.
Well, welcome.
And so you guys can come every Monday
when you're in phase one.
There's a 1 p.m. Eastern, as you are, as you know,
because you're there right now.
And there's also an 8 p.m. Eastern.
And they're different, obviously.
They might cover some of the same content,
but they're going to be different
because different people are going to be there,
different questions are going to be asked.
And so we usually only record one session per week,
whether it's the one or the eight that gets recorded
and put in the archives for you to view later.
Today, we're going to record both
because there's two different teachers,
two different coaches.
I'm going to coach,
and then Bethany's going to coach tonight.
So welcome to all of y'all.
And then all of you that have been going,
go ahead and put up in the chat for me real quick,
what week of the content are you in for your first phase?
One week, one, two, three, four, five, where are you?
Let me see.
Got a lot of week twos, some week threes.
We got someone starting the forgiveness week,
which is week four.
Two people starting that week.
Starting week three, but still processing week two.
And you guys, hard work doesn't end.
You're going to do hard work for the rest of your life.
This is a tool belt full of tools
that you'll be able to use
to get those breakthroughs quicker
as you go forward in life.
Lots of people in week three,
which is that confession,
that repentance and confession week.
Very important week.
You guys, us owning our own stuff
sets us up for week four,
where we forgive others and ourselves.
So repentance and confession
of where we've dropped the ball
or where we allowed or enabled abuse in our lives,
that's a big thing.
Don't ever want to victim shame people,
but at the same time,
it's important for us to own
where we have enabled abuse.
We have enabled abusers in our lives, right?
Where we haven't had good boundaries,
where we've continued to choose the same old,
same old over and over again.
And then when we're broken and lying on the floor,
we just want to curse them, curse God.
We want to be so upset.
How could this happen to me?
What is my life?
But then we don't own how we chose those scenarios
and relationships and situations, right?
And so week three is so important of what's repentance.
Repentance is just a fancy terminology.
In a lot of people's minds,
it's a very religious terminology for changing direction.
That's all it is.
All of us have been taught one thing or another
about how to be successful in life.
And a lot of us have believed
that if you want something right,
you have to do it yourself.
If you want something done,
you got to do it for yourself
because there's no one else to do it,
especially when you're single.
Those are kind of lies that we internalize.
And so what happens is we become very hyper-independent.
And hyper-independence is a trauma response.
God did not create you to be independent.
And I know this is going to hurt
at least one person's feelings.
I don't know who,
but someone either live or in replay.
You're not actually supposed to be independent at all.
Independence is a counterfeit identity.
You're like, Jackie, never, never, never.
Now, does that mean that you just lay in bed
and wait for someone to come and pick you up
and dress you and put food in your mouth?
That's not independence.
That's taking responsibility and accountability
for your responsibilities.
But a lot of, especially single women,
but just women in general,
because of the lack of trust for men and just others,
anyone in authority, anyone that could help us in our lives
because of bad experiences, because of trauma,
because of origin family trauma with our moms and our dads,
we have learned to do everything for ourselves.
We have learned to be responsible for ourselves.
We have learned to do everything for ourselves.
Some of you were doing things for yourself
far sooner than you ever should have.
You were dressing yourself before you should have.
You are making your own food before you should have.
And while it's great that you learn those life skills.
so you could survive. You've been in survivor mode ever since.
You guys, I saw this horrible, horrible show.
And I don't think I ever really saw a full episode of it,
but it is a show and I don't know if it's still in production or not,
but it's basically about an Asian culture that sends their toddlers
out into the world to go run errands for the family.
You guys, we're talking two and three-year-old children
out running errands for the family.
Barely can walk and talk and yet they are tasked with,
you know, busy city streets and, you know,
lists that are pinned to them for the grocer or whoever
and bringing back things for the family.
You guys, that's whack.
That's crazy town, right?
But apparently it's a cultural thing or maybe not.
The show wants you to believe it's a cultural thing
in wherever these people live.
But the problem with that is that there is hyper-independence
being taught from a very young age.
And not only do we want you to grow up fast
and become a productive member of this family,
we expect you to work for this family too.
I got my first job, like job job, when I was 12.
And before that I had already babysat for years.
I had already done odd jobs like shoveling people's, you know,
snow and all different types of things to make money.
Who else feels like they had a job since they were really young?
And I don't know about y'all, put in the chat,
but the reason why I had a job from the time I was really young
was because I had a single mom that was never around
and I also didn't have any money to buy anything that I needed.
And so it was almost like if you need it,
then you better go get it for yourself.
Right?
There was a point in time when my mom married
and she married wealthier, a wealthier person,
but she still continued to have us live in a poverty mindset
where if you want it, you need to go work and get it for yourself.
Okay, look at there.
Cleaning houses at 10 years old.
Single mom, same, same.
Okay, so you guys, we have taught,
we've been taught by our experiences and by just necessity
to figure out our lives.
And in this process, you're going to have to let go of some of that.
Not all of it because you still got to get out of bed and go to your job.
Right?
You still have to get up and take a shower and get dressed
But there are a lot of things that God would love
to send someone to help you with and not just a romantic person.
Okay, he is the source, but he's the head of the human resource department.
Right?
So all good things come down from the father of lights,
but those good things oftentimes show up in the form of people.
And if you're not able to ask for help and you're not able to allow help
and when people say, hey, how can I help you say I'm fine,
then that's a problem.
I ran into a girl at church yesterday.
She is a member of this community.
She's not in this phase anymore.
She's in the third phase, but you guys, her engine blew up
while she was driving it.
Something happened to her car just stopped, right?
And she's not a mechanic and just because she's a woman doesn't mean
she doesn't know anything about cars, but she happens to be a woman
who doesn't know anything about cars.
Right?
And so she didn't know what to do and she's so independent
because she was basically raised by wolves like me.
And so she's so independent because she didn't know what to do.
She simply didn't do anything at all because she doesn't know
how to ask for help.
She doesn't know how to get help because she's not used to getting
help.
And so I ran into her church yesterday and I just said, hey,
how are you doing?
She goes, oh, well, I don't have a car and I go, oh, what happened?
She said, I don't know.
And I said, well, you need to find out what happened.
And she goes, ah, she's like, I just, you know, I'm just, I'm just
working from home and I'm just like taking Uber.
I said, you need to get your car fixed.
And I said, you know, how much do you owe on this car?
She goes, I owe $16,000.
I said, you can eat.
I said, how much is your car payment?
She said $547 a month.
You got to get your car fixed.
You can't just, oh, well.
I don't know.
But sometimes we get paralyzed, right?
Who who's ever felt paralyzed?
Because you're so used to depending on yourself and whatever's
happening is way beyond your pay grade.
And because you can't depend on yourself in it, you have no idea
what to do.
Anybody else?
Come on, y'all.
We're going to get free today.
It's going to be great.
Okay.
So for all of you that raised your hands, for all of you that have
admitted to hyper independence, that is a counterfeit identity that
God wants to shift you out of.
and it is going to take you to take,
it's going to take you taking action.
And what does that look like?
That means you're going to have to feign helplessness
a little bit.
I know you're very, very competent and capable,
but you're going to have to invite and allow
and even ask others to assist you
in this season of your life.
Even with stuff that we know you could do on your own.
Right?
Now God did not break that girl's car down,
but he will absolutely use this opportunity
to change her if she will allow it.
Do you know how many men we have in our church
that probably know something about cars?
And so that requires her to, to what?
That requires her to ask for help, right?
To go up to a brother in the Lord
or a father in the Lord or someone and ask them,
hey, do you know anything?
Can you come take a look at my car?
Do you know anyone else who knows anything about cars
that can come and take a look at my car?
Right?
Yes.
So before anything goes wrong in your life
that requires you to ask a man or ask somebody,
some of y'all, who in here is a single mom?
Amberly, do you have school-aged children?
I bet there's lots of things
that you could use an extra hand with sometimes, right?
And so if you don't have those people in your life
and you're not already asking them to help,
and this is for anyone who's watching and replay as well.
She has kids ages, five kids, ages 12 and under.
Oh my God.
So you could use, not just,
you could use a whole bunch of extra hands.
So you could use, not just,
you could use a whole bunch of extra hands,
but asking other people to do things for you
instead of breaking your neck,
trying to do them all yourself.
It's time for us to come out of independence.
You know why?
Because marriage-minded men are looking for a wife
that they can benefit.
He wants to be a blessing to you.
I know that we all joke around
that all men's love language is touch,
and it definitely is, right?
We're like, all men want is one thing.
No, they want a lot more than one thing.
They do want that one thing, most of them,
but they're willing to wait for it in the right context
and make sure that you pick a man like that.
But men also have a huge acts of service love language.
They do.
Most men want to serve,
and divinely masculine men really do want to serve.
They want to serve their families.
They want to serve their wife.
And so a man like that, who's divinely masculine,
who's got a healthier heart,
not a fully healthy heart, but a healthier heart,
isn't going to be attracted to little Miss Independent.
In fact, a lot of men tell me
that they see independent women through the lens of,
she's going to be difficult.
She's not going to let me love her.
She's going to be difficult.
She's going to be argumentative.
And it's not like they want some sort of toxic submission,
but they want to know that you're going to allow them
to partner with you.
Healthier hearted men do not want hard women.
Now, what came first, the chicken or the egg?
Hard women are absolutely a product of bad men.
Aren't they?
For the most part?
Men that are takers and not givers, right?
Men that are abusive, men that are narcissistic,
men that are selfish, men that are all those things.
Men that are oppressive, men that are predatory.
Over the generations.
Some of you may never even experienced a man like that
in your own life, but your mother did,
or your grandmother did,
or she's been passed down through your generations
to have a natural inclination not to fully trust men.
And so what do women do?
We come out of our,
and you're going to hear about this in phase two,
when you guys get to the dating and love story accelerator
about the divine feminine.
But it's important in this confession week,
which the majority of you guys are in,
where you confess where you have not been divinely feminine.
Yeah, it might've been for a good reason,
but at the same time, you have to confess it
because the word of God tells us
what we confess will be healed of, right?
Good.
So we want to repent.
We want to turn away from our past.
away from whatever way life has caused us to have to go and we want to turn towards
God's way.
Some of you, at least one of you, I see Kelly in here is a widow.
So your person was taken and then you become independent, right?
When someone passes away, correct?
Isn't that your story, Kelly?
I'm sure.
Is it?
Did you, are you a widow or is, Oh, some other kind of loss?
Which
Yeah.
I didn't know which Kelly you were talking to.
All the Kellys.
Okay.
No.
Okay.
So, so law.
So anyone in here, a widow, anyone's husband pass, pass, pass, pass anybody.
Okay.
Well, we also have a replay.
So there'll be lots of people may be watching a replay as well.
And I noticed that my name says David Dorman, which is not who I am obviously.
But that also can thrust us into a place of independence where maybe we were doing good
and we were soft and we were living the feminine life with a nice, strong, masculine man in
our lives.
And then they were taken away.
And then we found ourselves in a place where we didn't know where the money was.
Maybe we didn't know what assets we had.
Maybe some things weren't in our name because we were over here like a little passenger
princess, just letting him drive the car.
And then what, and then a lot of times our pendulum might swing the other way where we're
just like, Oh, I got to make sure that I'm in control because I don't ever want this
to happen again.
Not only did, was my man, you know, is my man gone and been taken to heaven.
I also have been left in the lurch because I let him be in charge of too many things.
Okay.
So I feel like that's a word for someone.
So if you're not here, then when you're watching and replay, just know that God is speaking
to you.
All right.
So those are some good things.
I think I covered the housekeeping stuff.
Some of you have experienced attacks while you're entering the heart work and you're
wondering, Hey, you know, before the heart work, I was fine.
And now all of a sudden I'm experiencing what someone might call warfare.
And I'm wondering why?
Well, I mean, it's pretty obvious, right?
You're making an attempt to move forward in your life.
Raise your hand.
If you believe in the opposing forces, raise your hand.
If you have rock solid evidence that the opposing forces exist because of something that's happened
in your life.
Okay.
So it looks like most of us believe in that.
So obviously one plus one equals two.
You are, you are making a concerted effort.
Okay.
God's grace, his highlight is upon you to gain momentum in your life, in your relationships,
in the finished work of the cross.
And of course the opposing forces, the enemy, Satan, Lucifer, whatever you want to call
it, doesn't want that to happen because you don't just represent yourself.
You represent an entire lineage and legacy that will be following after you.
And everyone's lineage and legacy has a place in the timeline where something either went
wrong or went right.
And I propose to you that you are going to be that place in the timeline where something
went really right.
So you have the, you have the opportunity to be like what I call a kinsman redeemer
for your family.
And so this isn't just about your little marriage.
Okay.
This is about you getting massive breakthrough and everyone else behind you being able to
follow in that path that you are forging out, right?
Awesome.
Okay.
All right.
So those are the things that, um, we're on the list.
You guys are super quiet.
That's fine.
Attacks.
Question.
Why do I struggle to hear from Holy Spirit in general, but also to know the truth to
replace the lies?
Why do I struggle to hear from the, from Holy Spirit in general, but also to know the truth
to replace the lies?
You know, knowing someone's voice is about knowing them.
You guys hear my voice right now.
You guys took my challenge.
All of you did.
You're here.
You're hearing my coaching.
Now if I put you in a room full of voices, would you be able to pick out my voice?
If you're in a room full of voices, would you be able to pick out my voice in all the
voices?
You know, because here's the thing.
The thing is, is that I've been at the shopping mall, the grocery more than once where I've
heard the word mom called.
And I thought that they were talking to me, anybody else?
Because even though it wasn't my child saying mom, it sounded like my child, right?
It did.
And it's important for us to understand that the more
and more and more and more that we hear a voice,
the more that we can discern that voice.
That's what's important for us to understand.
And so for those of you that are having trouble
discerning the voice of Holy Spirit,
spend more time with him.
You know, practice hearing his voice.
You're like, what does that look like?
Okay, it's gonna be uncomfortable,
but if you wanna practice hearing his voice,
put a little bit of stakes on it.
It's easy kind of just to sit around
and just be like, you know,
God speak to me through your spirit
and then just begin to kind of journal out
what you think you're hearing.
And a lot of that has our own desires mixed in with it,
right?
And you can go to classes to learn how to hear
and you can, you know, all the things.
But where the rubber meets the road
is you could go somewhere
and you could say, you know,
hey, Holy Spirit, you know,
give me a word for someone here, right?
And you could even pinpoint a specific person.
You could even try it with someone that you know at church,
but you know, God, give me a word for my friend Sally here.
And then whatever it is that you hear
or whatever it is that you feel
or whether it is that is impressed upon you,
I'm a big impression person.
So when I say that Holy Spirit said to me,
I don't mean like I heard it audibly
or even that it was words in my mind.
I had an impression that someone didn't feel good
or someone was struggling with, you know,
sadness or fear or, you know,
someone had anxiety about a specific thing.
It was like an impression.
Does everyone know what an impression is?
So a lot of times I perceive something.
I'm a perceiver.
I feel impressed about something, all right?
So practice it.
And you know what?
You're gonna get it wrong 80% of the time at first,
but you're also going to be learning, aren't you?
And sometimes you're gonna get it partly right
and partly wrong.
That's okay.
And just so you know that as you go further in our program,
because I believe in ministering
to the whole person holistically,
this isn't just about your love life
because your love life is gonna be attached
to your financial life.
And your physical life and your relationship
with other people, including God life.
And so it's not just about trying to take out
this one little piece of your life and minister to it
and prime the pump on it.
It's about the whole you.
Whole in Christ, complete in assignment for marriage,
healed in family.
And that's what we do here.
And so we have an entire module on how to hear from God.
And so you definitely will be learning more
about how God is speaking to you.
Holy Spirit is the God agent in the earth
who was able to come to Supernatural Saturday last week
and last night to Sunday night activation.
Raise your hand if you came to either of those.
Cause you're in luck.
It was all about Holy Spirit.
And only three of you here took advantage of that.
Who here has never listened to a Supernatural Saturday
or a Sunday night activation?
Just raise it loud and proud.
Let's see your hands.
Brooke said she's never been to one.
I guess let's do the opposite question.
Raise your hand if you're off camera,
raise your avatar hand if you have been
to a Supernatural Saturday.
Okay.
Right, this last one was about speaking
the language of heaven and then obviously hearing
the language of heaven in order to speak it.
So if you didn't get to hear last Saturday,
Supernatural Saturday, make sure that you listen to it
and then make sure that you go to,
let me check one thing real quick.
Okay, last night was recorded.
So make sure that you go and you watch last night's.
We don't always record Sunday night activation
cause we have breakout rooms
and all different types of things happening.
But last night, because it's so important of a subject,
it was recorded and it's all about that very question
of how to hear,
how to cultivate that relationship,
that spiritual relationship, all right?
Okay, time for questions, we're about 30 minutes in.
So any questions that you have about any portion
of the heart work that you're in,
or really just any questions that you have,
we'll go ahead and take those now.
You can unmute yourself and ask,
or you can put it up in the chat, either way.
I have a question, Jackie.
I was watching the stuff on soul ties and everything.
And I feel I've done a lot of that work before.
So I just am curious.
Trying to filter through where to start with it.
Part of me was feeling like I need to redo any or all
or any that come to mind,
but I know I've done that work in the past.
So I was kind of confused.
I definitely wouldn't go digging around.
That's kind of one of our rules is no digging.
So I wouldn't go digging around trying to find anything
that's undone and also not just,
oh, for the heck of it, just redoing any of them.
It's more about a revealing for healing.
So whatever's coming up as you're watching the material.
Soul Ties is one of our longer sessions.
It's pretty old.
I'll have to probably replace it soon,
but it was so good that we let it stand.
But it talks about Soul Ties being not just relational.
And that's really important for a lot of people
because people, a lot of times they believe,
if they have ever even heard of a Soul Tie,
they believe that it's sexual in nature.
A lot of people do.
Raise your hand if you used to think Soul Ties were sexual.
Lots of hands, see?
All right.
And then of course, a lot of people think
that they're just romantic, even if they're not sexual,
it's romantically in nature or it's even human in nature,
but a Soul Tie is a human being.
But a Soul Tie, sorry guys,
I got like some little piece of thing in my throat,
can also be to an idea,
can be to a dream that you have
that you just won't let die, right?
Because you want it and you believe that,
if you just keep trying to get it, you're gonna get it,
but it's only just caused you a lot of harm.
To a teaching maybe that you've received
over the course of your life,
to a person, a place, a thing.
We can be Soul Tied.
Cause you guys have to understand, you're a spirit.
You are a spirit, everyone.
Okay?
What you see in the mirror is not who you are.
You are a spirit.
And someday you're gonna have a whole different vehicle
to ride in besides this one.
So you're a spirit.
And right now you're living in this body.
This is the only earthly body you're ever gonna have.
So we need to take good care of it.
I know a lot of people are just like,
oh, well, you know, it's a temporary situation.
Well, it's not temporary for this entire timeline on earth.
So body is important.
Cause your promises that you have from God,
you can't go there if this body can't take you there.
Right?
So you're a spirit that lives in a body
that possesses a soul.
Your soul is a thing.
Okay?
It's part of who you are.
The best way to describe it is the way
that I've simply described it in the heart work protocol.
And that is that it's the epicenter of your mind
and your will and your emotions.
Within scripture, the word mind and will and heart
and soul are all often interchanged.
Okay?
So that's what it is.
It's your heart part.
Out of the quality of the heart or soul
comes the quality of your life.
This is an important place
because this is where all the information is being kept.
Whether it's bad information,
whether it's good information,
whether it's right information or wrong information,
all the experiences, all the memories,
everything is being kept here.
It's not being kept here in your mind.
It's being kept here in your soul, in your heart.
Okay?
In master control.
And so this place in us gets tied to things,
especially to wrong thinking, ideologies.
Right?
It's tied to some sort of dogma or religion.
You can be soul tied to a lot of things
where that is actually tethering you
to something other than what Jesus died to give you.
And so we want to cut those ties.
We want to open ourselves up to new information.
And so it's important for us to address those things
and to come out of agreement with those things.
And that's really what breaking soul ties is,
just coming out of agreement with those things.
All right?
I'll have to revisit some of the language in that teaching
because I haven't seen it in a really long time,
but we definitely want to make sure that we understand
that we can be held back by a lot of things.
You can be soul tied to your family in a negative way.
Maybe you have the best parents in the world
and they're still alive, they're not passed away,
and you have a unhealthy soul tie to them.
And maybe it manifests as an unhealthy boundary.
You care so much about what they believe
and what they think that it's actually keeping you
from making decisions for your own life.
life. I just had it happen the other day, I had a student show
up and you know, in a group setting and say, you know, I
really I really want to do this. But my this and this woman is
like, older, you know, she's at least in her 40s, maybe even
closing on 50. But my dad doesn't approve. My parents
don't want me to. It's like, okay, so how do we navigate the
line of respect and control? Right? And so that's an
unhealthy tether happening there between someone who is of her
age, and her parents. Now, here's the good news. You don't
only cut soul ties with people that you want to, you know, not
be like, like your husband, you know, your your, you know, your
former husband or someone who you were in some sort of abuses,
abusive or toxic situation with maybe a crazy community that
you were part of that you finally realize, oh, this is
super unhealthy, and I need to get away. Maybe you love your
family, or you love your best friend, you've been best friends
for 40 years, you guys saw the cutest little old couple in the
waiting room of a doctor's office the other day, two ladies
that had been best friends, as they told me for 60 years,
they've literally witnessed each other's lives. They've been
friends since they were like, 10 years old. Now, has to be
more than that. Because the one lady said, I'm 86 years old to
me. And I said, Oh, you're looking good. And the other one
said, I'm 85 and a half. And I said, you're looking good, too.
And then the one lady was just like, now when we get in there,
let me do the talking. She's like, I didn't even ask you to
come with me. Like, they're just like bickering, like little
sisters, you know, but they're best friends, right? I guarantee
you, there's some unhealthy soul tie going on there. Right? Where
they resent each other, but they love each other. So we want
to kind of have a healthy relationship with someone,
especially long term like that, then we have to, you know, get
rid of some of the things between us that are keeping us
in some bad patterns. And that's what soul ties can look like. So
you can keep your parents that your parents that you love so
much, and they're probably not going to like it when you stop
giving them so much control in your life when you're 45 years
old. And there's probably going to be some pushback and maybe
even some backlash, not just pushback, but backlash, but it
has to be done. If that relationship is going to be
healthy, it has to be done. Kelly here is saying I had a
soul tie to a doctor who caused nerve damage to my body. I was
released and freed from that pain. And she had that happen
here in this program. Kelly is one of our peer coaches and
she's shadowing today. So yeah. Alright, so Kelly, does that
help you?
Yes, and no, I'll just pray and see what what's the no Holy
Spirit brings up? Well, yeah. I mean, that's a good explanation
of soul ties. It doesn't tell me where to start. But clearly, I
need to I need to ask Holy Spirit and see what comes up in
terms of what to break and whatever else.
Well, and it and what I'm trying to say is, and of course,
teaching on the greater purpose of soul ties, and breaking them
for everyone based on your question, you might not have
anything. Just because it exists in the material doesn't mean
that you have it, you guys just want to let you know, it might
be some work that you've already done. I will tell you that we
have never had anyone not one person come through this
program that didn't get massive breakthrough in this first phase
and something no matter how much teaching or training or
coaching, or maybe they were a coach, or it doesn't even matter.
So that might not be the area where you still need any work.
And so don't try to force yourself into that, right. But a
lot of times also, let me just put this out there, you might
have a soul tie to an idea, like, for instance, because
we're all in here, because we want, you know, a partner, a
kingdom partner to do life with, you might have a soul tie to a
type of man. Okay. And if you find that you have a type, it's
possible that you have a soul tie to that type, because you
don't have a spirit tie to it. And your body's only doing what
your soul tells it to do. So if you're always attracted to the
wrong men, then we got to look at that because that's all die.
Right? Because your body is going to respond to what your
soul wants. Does everyone understand that? And why does
your soul want that? That's the question. And so that's
something to pray into that just came up, you know, I feel like
that's a word knowledge for somebody. So these are very kind
of untraditional thinking about what a soul tie is, but you can
be tied to an idea.
can. I saw one precious man. I love him so much. He's a great guy, but he was the general manager
of a radio station. And because of some politics and Christian radio, um, there was some jockeying
for position. And then he got fired and he believed that he had a word from the Lord
that he was going to get that position back for that radio station. And I personally
watched him for over 15 years, wait for that to come true, putting his life on hold. Now I
have moved away. And the thing is, is he was, by the time I met him, he had already been waiting
for probably a decade. And then I watched him wait for 15 years of my acquaintance with him.
And now I haven't lived near him for about seven, eight years. So I have no idea if he's still
waiting, but y'all that's a soul tie. Okay. That's not contending for a promise of the Lord.
There were no confirmations that this was going to take place. And I just want to let you know,
the promises of God don't have those types of timelines. They don't have those types of
timelines. Okay. If God has promised you to see salvation in your family, you know, something
that is a long-term situation. This man has a short, brief amount of time to work on the earth
as far as vocation is concerned, right? You may receive intergenerational promises, promises that
are not just to you, but they're to your children and your children's children about your family
line and about lineage and legacy and different things like that. And that's awesome. And you
might just like King David only be carrying a small portion of that. Right. And your kids might
be carrying something in your, in your grandkids might be carrying something that fulfills that
promise of God. This man's promise was about him. And it was about his working years. And when I
met him, he was already 50 years old or 49, 48 years old. So you see that there's, you know,
we've got a problem, Houston, something's wrong here, but he was so soul tied to that idea that he
couldn't get away from it. And so what do we do when we break a soul tie, especially if it's
tied to an idea, you know, some of you, you may have, you know, just this coming up in my spirit
right now, you may have this promise, what you believe is a promise from the Lord that an old
relationship is going to return to you. And you're patiently doing what you can to try to make that
happen. You're even here, possibly trying to, you know, be obedient to do what you can do so that
this can happen, but there's no evidence of this happening. In fact, this person has moved on.
In fact, I'm feeling like this person's even married to someone else. You got to let that go.
You got to break that soul tie. God has something better for you,
but you can't have the better thing as long as you are tied and tethered to this other thing.
And the reason why you can't have it is because you're tied and tethered, not because you're not
allowed to have it, not because God doesn't want it for you, because you won't let go of something
else. And so it's not a punishment that you can't have the new thing. You just simply don't have
your hands open for it. You're not looking for it. You're looking for this and you're digging
ditches where it's not going to rain. This is not going to happen. Okay. And you got to let it go.
And you got to let it go. And all of you probably have something in your life that is intangible
like this that you should let go of. So pray into that, Kelly, you as well, everyone pray into,
Hey, am I holding on to something, you know, um, that I just really should let go of.
And then go ahead and go through the steps of breaking a soul tie for that thing.
All right. And making room for the better, the more,
and here's why you don't have to be scared of that. If it actually is something that, you know,
is going to come to pass literally the way that you think it is going to come to pass,
you letting go of it and giving it back to God, isn't going to stop that from happening,
but it is going to stop you from pining away and waiting in a waiting room.
Instead of moving forward in the kingdom. Cool. All right. Alexa was just about to ask that. So
lots of words of knowledge happening here. So that's great. Cool. So Kelly, great question.
You see how great questions, even if you think it's like, should I even ask it lead to help for
other people in different areas? So anybody else?
I have a question, Jackie.
Just take turns. Go ahead.
Um, I'm watching the, the hope I was watching.
Watching the hope replay of the,
like after doing the hope worksheet
and just wondered if you had any,
I feel very,
not nervous, but nervous to,
I'm trying to want what like God wants
and I really appreciate,
I've read your books and I like how direct you are
in terms of saying, like if it's a desire of your heart,
God put it there and,
because I'm trying to talk myself out of that.
And so as I'm doing this heart work,
there are days where I feel like
I don't wanna be married at all.
And I know that that might just be a fear response,
but I'm just trying to,
I'm getting a lot of mixed messages
in my own heart and mind.
And I'm just wondering, A, if that's normal
and B, how you process that,
because I'm trying to be content with where I'm at
and also move forward in this work.
And then just get, it's getting a little bit confusing
and I'm not just not sure if that's normal.
Yeah, okay, so two things,
two things that come to my heart when you're talking
and that is, it is 100% okay to love your single life
and also hold space for partnership.
And you should.
And that's what last year's single is all about.
We want you to love your single life.
That's why we have last trip single,
go on vacations together,
do all the things that you've always wanted to do.
You're not waiting for your life to begin, friends.
You're not.
The man is not the magic bullet of happiness.
Hopefully you're not soul tied to that idea
because you watched too much Disney,
because it's not true.
And we can be soul tied to an over romantic idea
of what relationship and marriage looks like
and we'll be very disappointed
and very disillusioned if we do that.
And so that's important.
Let that, let that go, okay?
And so number one, it's great
that you're wanting to be content where you are,
but not satisfied, right?
You want more, you want to feel full, but not satisfied.
And that's obviously a very supernatural thing
that we have to hold with both of those things.
And then secondly, Stephanie,
you are actually in a very large group of women
that have come through this program
that are like, yeah, I'm here.
I felt like God had me come here,
but the more that I do this work,
the more that I'm just really not sure
if I even want this anymore.
And it usually is tied to, are you divorced?
Okay, so it's usually tied to the idea,
not soul tied, but it's usually tied to the idea
that we don't ever want to live like that again, right?
And so obviously whatever marriage you had
is not God's best for you.
And what's going to happen with you now
in this healing process is just letting go
of that and marriage being together with that.
Like you call that marriage, right?
But obviously it wasn't God's idea of marriage, was it?
No, and that was 12 years ago.
And I had never heard of you before very recently.
And after being in a relationship that I thought
was actually, it's because I've been single for 12 years
and I've had to do a lot of work.
And our stories are very identical in many ways.
I moved out when I was 16, blah, blah, blah.
And I have a point, I promise.
That relationship ended
and it brought the spiritual warfare part of things.
And I've just been caught off guard a lot.
And so I feel very nervous
about what God is gonna ask of me in the future.
And I don't feel particularly hopeful.
I'm trying to live in reality,
which you talk about a lot.
And so I'm in between this, people keep saying,
oh, if it's not good yet, God's not done yet.
And I'm like, no, okay.
So I know that there's this,
I know that there's a trepidation there and a cynicism.
And I love your explanation of soul ties.
And I really appreciate that Kelly asked that question
because I think that you offered a different perspective
that I've never heard before around really being attached
to certain ideas and outcomes,
even if that's my own cynicism
or trying to talk me out of something I want
because I think I'm not gonna get it
or that I'm not capable of having it,
which is one of my fears.
I think currently.
I am afraid and I also asked God about eight weeks ago or so,
like I need help to navigate this.
I've never been where I am currently.
When you've read all the books and done all the things and you're still kind of
stuck in your own cycle of thinking,
you're very different than anyone I've really
encountered so far in the work that I've done around your perspective.
And it's helpful for me.
It's just it's just also bringing a lot up for me of what the religious people
have kind of said and the people in my community have said around just be content.
God will bring it when you're not looking.
There's a lot of basically you're saying a lot of things that I have never heard
before as a person raised in a really religious community for a long time.
I live in Redding, California.
So if that gives you any kind of a grid, I think, you know, where,
who and that will make sense to you.
I'm probably not making a lot of sense, but I I appreciate you.
I think I just feel a little overwhelmed and a little lost.
But I also don't want to be for crying.
I don't want to keep like walking down this road if this is not what God has.
And I just feel really leveled.
But I'm here like I'm showing up and I'm like, don't make excuses.
Don't be a victim.
Like suck it up.
I'm trying like really hard.
But I'm just having a hard time, so I don't I don't even know if I'm
going to make it through the hard work.
And I know there's not maybe like a time frame, but I'm just like,
I don't think I'm going to be on the 30 the 30 days mark.
So I'll stop talking, but.
Yeah, oh, yeah, thank you.
Thank you for being so vulnerable, Stephanie, and I'm so sorry that,
you know, that this is painful for you, but, you know,
I also know that it's pain with a purpose, so I'm not that sorry
because I know that you're going to have breakthrough.
But you guys raise your hand if you come from some sort of prophetic culture,
like revival stream kind of culture.
OK, so and that's kind of what Stephanie,
when I'm listening to her, I'm listening to, you know,
what the heart of the father is saying and prophetic culture is exhausting.
It can be super exhausting.
You know, especially when at any given time,
you know, there's a million different things that God's going to do
and not any of them are really happening.
Right. And so it's it's hard and it's a lot.
And I will tell you, OK, that not being raised in the church
and really just being a complete heathen. All right.
I think I bring a lot of different perspective because when I met Jesus
and this is the reason why the heartwork exists in the first place,
that protocol came to save my life.
God gave it to me for me.
And for a long time, it was just for me.
And then I was invited to help others with it
and let it become, you know, the proprietary protocol
in which we help people to, you know, step into kingdom partnerships. OK.
But discipleship didn't work for me.
I was in a very spirit driven discipleship community when I was
when I first met Jesus and I wasn't getting free.
I heard a lot of great things.
I had a lot of emotions about what I was hearing.
I was really excited.
You know, Holy Spirit was definitely in the mix as far as,
you know, the gifts of the spirit.
But I wasn't seeing breakthrough.
I had lots of life controlling issues, specifically mental illness.
I had obsessive compulsive disorder.
I have panic disorder.
I could have up to 10, 15 panic attacks a day.
Right. Because of that, I had a complete adrenal failure.
I had Epstein Barr.
I had everything you could think of.
You guys, I couldn't even walk across the room.
I didn't even have the strength to walk across the room
without stopping and resting.
And so I was and this is as a Christian, this as a believer
and a Christ follower, even a leader, dare say I,
because if you are gifted, which I was coming right out of the box
when I met Holy Spirit, I was very gifted in the spirit.
I was made a leader because that's what a lot of,
you know, Christian communities do.
They're like, oh, you have gifts.
We're going to make you a leader.
But I had all of those very, very serious problems.
And I was just like one day, hey, God, you know what?
I believe your word, but it doesn't work for me.
It's not working for me.
You know, all the things that I'm hearing, they're not happening and call me crazy.
But I have to believe that if it's real, it's real.
If it's true, it's true.
And and I need to know what I'm missing.
And so that's when the heart work was born.
God began to show me that, you know,
I wasn't able to activate a lot of things in my life
because of the things that were already in my heart.
And here's the thing that I wanna say
to Stephanie and all of you.
A lot of the things that were in my heart were religious.
Okay?
Jesus and I were doing good together
until I started getting discipled by religion.
That third person in the mix wasn't that great, right?
And so all the things that I was intuitively understanding
when it was just me and Jesus,
cause I was converted radically, just me and Christ.
And when that happened, you know, of course,
well-meaning people start to add their two cents to things
and well-meaning, and it started to muddy the water.
Okay?
And so for all of you that have really,
you've been to a lot of training programs,
you have a lot of ministry experience,
you've been to a lot of different churches,
you've heard a lot of different sermons and messages.
I'm gonna challenge you
during at least this portion of the program
to tune out all of those voices.
Cause here's the thing,
they might be giving chapter and verse
for what they're saying,
but it might not be what God wants you to hear right now.
And a lot of times we zig and we zag,
we go left instead of right, we're all over the place
because now we live in this digital age
where at any given time,
you can find a million different messages.
And they're all kind of contradicting each other, right?
It's like, God wants you to sit still.
No, God wants you to take action.
No, God wants you to lay down.
God wants you to worship.
No, God wants you to pray.
No, God wants you to intercede.
No, God wants you to fast.
This is like, ah, it's crazy.
You know what God wants you to do?
God wants you to love your life.
That's what he wants you to do.
And you know how that is part of the great commission?
Because if you don't love your life,
nobody else is gonna want your life.
Nobody.
So you have full permission to do what is for you
in this season.
And if that is rest,
whatever intuitively comes to you, Stephanie,
if that is to take a break from this, to rest,
to hold out whatever it is that you're even here for,
because you can be here for a whole bunch of reasons,
not just obviously,
it's kind of sell them what they want,
give them what they need.
Yeah, we have very supernatural results
with people getting married,
but that's not all that happens here.
People get massive breakthrough
in all different types of things,
including direction and clarity
for what they're even here on earth for.
And you said something and I heard you say it,
and I wanna address it.
She said, I'm scared of what God might ask me to do.
Okay.
You guys, that is a very religious idea.
And this is why in the Bible, Jesus calls religion leaven.
If you've ever made bread,
you know that a little bit of yeast
goes a whole long way, right?
Just a little tiny bit of it.
I'm always finding leaven of the Pharisees in my life
because I was discipled by them.
And they didn't mean to be Pharisees,
they just were, right?
Because what happens anytime anyone has an idea
or a revelation from God is it's like,
oh, it's so good, let's make it into a formula, right?
Let's package it and sell it, all right?
So that other people can have it.
I have no doubt in my heart and mind
that at one point in time, God told someone to sow a seed.
Someone was told to put their money where their mouth was,
but now it's a thing.
Now it's become this thing.
And it's like this formula and how to get breakthrough.
No, all of you are gonna get breakthrough
in a different way.
And all the hard work is,
is just a vehicle for God to speak to you
about what that way is.
And so what I wanna say to you, Stephanie,
is that God doesn't tell us to do things,
He invites us to do things.
And we also can decline that invitation.
It will not be the end of invitations.
We might simply not be ready to do that thing.
And it's no harm, no foul.
I do not believe that delayed obedience is disobedience.
I do not believe that that is biblical.
And some of my best friends actually preach that.
I don't, because here's the thing.
I think that God asks us to do something.
He invites us to do something,
knowing full well that we're not ready to do it.
But what is He doing?
He's priming the pump for a future invitation.
God knows what you have capacity for.
And that's why the word of God tells us
over and over and over and over again
that it's all about the heart.
It's all about our heart.
It's just all about our heart.
You know, most people are not blatantly stiff-arming God,
unless they're in a place of severe brokenness
where they don't trust him, they're angry at him, you know.
Most people just do not feel ready for things
sometimes when they show up.
And that's what we're doing here, we're just getting ready.
There's gonna be lots of invitations.
Jeremiah 29, 11 is a banner verse over my life.
And a lot of you, when you quote it,
you need to make sure that you're paying special attention
to the plurality of it.
I know the plans I have for you, says the Lord.
God has many plans for you.
And when you turn down an invitation to one,
there will be another one.
And in the meantime, you'll be being prepared for that.
Because I guarantee you one thing,
if you don't feel ready for something
and you kind of, you pass on it,
you will continue to think about it.
And if you don't think about it
from a place of legalism or condemnation,
because there's therefore now no condemnation
to those in Christ Jesus,
then you will understand that, you know,
that your heart warms up to the idea, Stephanie.
And that's what's happening here.
God invited you here, you did say yes, you're here,
but your heart's not warmed up to this idea yet.
And I wanna tell you guys something else
that's important for all of you that struggle
with the idea of being in marriage
because of a bad experience
or even someone else's bad experience.
Not only will your heart continue to warm up to the idea
before the next invitation comes,
but the man that God has for you to partner with,
which in all seasons could be a different person.
I don't believe in the concept of the one.
Whoever that person is, will be part of that healing
and will be part of the yes of that invitation.
When I tell you that my husband is so good to me,
I am not lying.
When I tell you that he is God's proof
that I am loved by heaven, I am not kidding.
Now, is he perfect?
No, he's not perfect.
And he definitely has some sort of sleep apnea
and he's snoring and waking me up
and I'm gonna about to sleep divorce him
and just go live in the other room at nighttime.
But it's really good.
All right.
And a lot of you, you don't know that yet.
And I'm excited for you because I know what it's like
to meet someone who shows you what God is like.
And you're gonna have that.
And we're not gonna settle for anything less than that.
We're not.
We don't need them to be perfect,
but we definitely need them to be perfect for us.
Really important.
So Stephanie, you're in a good place.
You're willing to be made willing.
You've said yes to one invitation
and you're not sure you wanna say yes to the next one,
which would be marriage and it's good
because that invitation is not being offered
to you yet, honey.
You got plenty of time for your heart to be warmed up
to that idea in the process.
All right.
So yes.
And thank you for showing up in a vulnerable place
because your vulnerability gives permission
to other people to be vulnerable.
And I know we had one more question
of someone who was like, y'all cut each other off.
So whoever that next person is, let's go.
Yeah, that was me.
Sorry.
I don't sound very good.
Pretty sick right now.
Yeah, you do look like you don't feel good.
Be healed, girlfriend.
I was like, I wondered if you were not feeling good.
Okay.
Yeah.
So part of that,
I guess I just want your opinion on a couple of things.
Okay.
So I'm like finishing week three of the program right now.
And week one and two,
I was kind of where Kelly said kind of she was like,
I've done a lot of this work before and it's really good.
And had benefit of it,
but I was still really in the mindset
I'm still gonna go through it
and checking in with Jesus about some things.
And I know in week two,
there was a couple of things that I was praying about.
He's like, I've already healed you of that.
We don't need to go back there.
Just keep going forward.
And then in week three, we're talking about like vows,
which actually led to a bunch of lies that I believe
because I went through the vows with Jesus
and they were more boundaries, right?
If like, I don't wanna be with an alcoholic.
I don't wanna be with somebody who's passive aggressive.
These are boundaries that I have now
from past relationships,
but they're the healthy ones, not the limiting ones.
And what opened up more was I was asking him some questions
with the lies that I believed with them.
And I posted about this in the group.
So maybe some people have read this about some sexual stuff.
I mean, sex has always been like where I've gone to
to feel accepted and I guess safe, which is weird,
but like just going where that has come from.
And a lot of therapists and different things in my life have always said,
you know, we think that you've been sexually abused as a child,
but you've repressed this memory so much that you have no recollection of it.
And literally like pastors, counselors, psychologists,
psychiatrists have all said this to me throughout my life.
So on Friday, I was kind of sitting with Jesus. I'm like, okay,
if this is the truth, I'm ready to deal with it.
Like bring that forward. And he said, that's not the truth. And I said, okay,
where is this from? Because this whole month,
I've been celibate now for about four, four and a half years.
And this whole month,
like people have circled in my life that I've been with before. Like, I, I,
it's gross, but I will open up my phone and just have dick pics everywhere.
And I just don't know where they're coming from. And it just like,
I feel like Satan's just throwing sex at me. Like,
it's so easy to get like here you want it again. And it's,
it's just like overwhelmingly I've never had that easy. It's, it's crazy.
It's stupid. I hate it. And so I, you know, what, geez, I'm like,
where is this coming from? Like, what is the root of this?
And he brought up this root of like I was actually being bullied in junior
high. And there's a whole story behind this one thing. And he's like,
this is where this all comes from.
And I actually think that's why I'm sick is that my body's processing this
trauma for the first time properly.
Um,
but I don't know how to like open up and let him heal that.
So that's kind of like the first part of what I want to ask you.
The other part is you talk about, you know, the man that's right for you. Um,
last summer I met a man and he's still in my life as a friend.
Um,
we've had like conversations about relationships and he's always just,
he doesn't say he doesn't want to be in a relationship with me.
He just says I'm too busy. And like, he's literally everything that I want.
Like I'm a very type a personality. I'm highly dominant.
He is more dominant than I am. He is louder than I am.
He has a stronger personality than I am. It's like when I'm with,
like he's doing a bunch of work on my house.
And when he was ripping out my front yard, he's like, I need you to get home.
I was like, okay, I'll come home. And we were talking about something.
He's like, okay, well get in the truck. I was like, okay. And like,
I didn't even have to think we, you know,
we just took loads of dirt places and I'm like, I don't know where we're going.
I don't know what we're doing,
but I trust him and I can just turn my mind off and be with him. And you know,
I'll be doing something in my house and he'll be here. And he's like,
what are you doing? I'm like, well, okay. I'm trying to hang this thing.
He's like, well, you're doing it wrong. I'm like, well,
I'm just doing it how I know what, leave me alone. Right. And he's like, no.
And then he'll just take over and do it for me. I'm like, oh, it's so nice.
I know that sounds dumb, but it's like that masculine all the time.
And with him, I can be feminine.
And my friends have met him and they're like,
you're so different when he's around. I'm like, yeah,
but he's not a Christian, which is a big thing. And, um,
he's now created this new level that anybody else has to meet.
And I don't know what to do with that. Like,
do I just get rid of him out of my life or I don't know what to do with him.
And he's comforting my heart. He's working on your house.
Yeah. He's literally doing all my bathroom rentals now.
Well, what I hear, what I hear from God is that he's working on your house
and God's working on your house. You know, in dreams,
houses are usually indicative of our hearts. So you're having your heart worked on.
Right. Because what you're doing is you're experiencing what it's like to,
you know, be less dominating and independent, you know?
And so it doesn't really matter. You guys,
and all of you need to hear this is that, you know,
because people come in our lives for reasons, right?
They come in our lives for reasons and they show us what it's like to be
treated a certain way.
It doesn't mean that they're the person that we're going to marry and partner
with. It just means that we're going to learn something.
They might even be a woman, you know, doesn't matter what that, what the,
what that situation is.
It's teaching us something and it's showing us a version of ourselves that we
like. You like this version of yourself, Jen, you know? And so, um,
he does have some aspects of him that you obviously know are not a spirit mate,
right? He's not, he's not a Christ bar. He's not a believer.
And it sounds like you're spiritually mature enough to know that that would not
be a good partnership. And, um,
and so you're not deceived into thinking that this is who God has sent you,
but he is someone who the human resource department has sent
because it's positive what's happening inside of you because of it.
Now your part to play in this is not to put it in the wrong bucket.
And all of us, you guys, my kids, I have three grown adult children.
Um, my son is about to be 29 this year.
My daughter is 26 and she's married and has twin grand, my twin grandbabies.
Um, and of course.
First, I got to show them off because I love them so much.
Do you, do you, do you?
And then my youngest daughter is going to get married
in August and her and her boyfriend
have been together for three years.
And so all my kids are, besides my son,
are all going to be married.
But when they were younger, of course,
they would bring home all different myriad
of the opposite sex, right?
Friends from school and different things.
And a lot of times that person would be attached
to them in some way.
And I told my kids, I sat my kids down,
I had a word from God and I just said, listen.
I said, God has revealed to me that all of you
are going to be attracting people
for the purpose of what our family carries.
Our family is carrying, you know, marriage and family,
right?
We're carrying marriage and family.
We're carrying, you know, healthy romantic relationships.
You know, we're carrying Holy Spirit
in a different way than other people.
And so I don't want you to get it twisted
that when someone starts paying attention to you,
maybe even flirting with you,
that it's because they're meant to be
a romantic partner for you.
It's possible that they're just even drawn to you.
And this is how they're expressing it
because of what your family and you carry.
Does that make sense to everyone?
So he obviously is drawn to you.
You're obviously carrying a lot of really great things,
right?
But right now he doesn't carry the qualities
of a husband, partner, or spirit mate.
And so all of you are going to draw people in
whether they're male or female,
because they're going to be drawn to the God inside of you
and specifically the giftings that you carry
and what you bring, the breakthrough that you bring.
It's up to you not to put that
into the wrong context or bucket.
It's up to you to do that.
God can't do that for you.
It's up to you to do that.
You're attractive.
All of you are attractive in the spirit.
You're attractive in the natural,
but you're also attractive in the supernatural.
So it's important for you to make a very,
you know, strong commitment
to what it is that you want in a partner
and not to settle for anything less than that.
Of course, we're going to help you unpack some of that,
because some of you have unrealistic expectations
of what that looks like.
And we'll unpack that when we get into phase two.
But as far as them being, you know, awakened spiritually
and, you know, have, you know, are following Christ.
Now I will say this.
I do believe in this wave
of people that are coming to know Christ.
You guys, what's his face?
Russell Brand.
Yes, just got baptized, right?
Right?
Well, that's what I was going to say too.
Like, what if he's attracted to me?
Like, what if there's,
there was one day where he was doing stuff
and I was like, I've got to go to church in the morning.
And he was like, okay.
And then he was sleeping on my couch
because it was just long hours.
I got up the next day and I had kind of said in my head,
like, well, I don't really want to leave him here alone.
So I'm just not going to go to church.
And I came out and he was like, aren't we going to church?
And I was like, it's too late now.
My friends all said, you made the biggest mistake ever.
You should have brought him to church.
So like, I don't know,
maybe there's that aspect of it too though, right?
Like, is that a thing?
Or do you want somebody that's been a Christian a long time
if you've been a Christian a long time?
You definitely, no.
And that's what I was about to say.
So there is a wave and, you know,
I actually had a word about this and I released it
at a couple of different Christian communities,
churches, if you will,
that the nets that's being thrown out now,
kind of the evangelistic net that's being thrown out now,
it's going to bring in a lot of conversions
that are the single sons and daughters that,
those are your spouses.
Those are your partners that are going to be coming in
in those nets.
But the difference will be this, you guys,
and I think that all of you can probably attest to this
in one way or another.
When I was converted, I met Jesus, okay?
I didn't meet a church.
In fact, I got discipled later.
I met Jesus.
I asked God if he was real and I passed out.
I woke up, I was, you know,
I got the baptism of the spirit in my living room,
you know, crazy things happen, right?
I was converted.
And when you are converted, not saved,
when you're converted, you don't turn back around.
I have been following Jesus for 28 years.
It's not always been easy.
There's been ups and downs and there's been times when,
you know, it's like smite me almighty smiter,
upset, mad, crazy stuff,
want to turn around, want to turn away.
But just like the disciples in the Bible, where would we go?
You alone have the words of life, right?
And so that's a true conversion, you guys.
That's a conversion, okay?
That person is going to continue to grow spiritually.
Then there are other people that because of fear
or religion, they try to make a decision for Christ
or whatever they get into a church service,
or, you know, they're bullied into it
by some sort of dogma or rhetoric, religious.
That's not a conversion, you guys.
It's not, okay?
So these converted folks, Jen, they are going to be.
some of the partners of, you know,
the faithful single sons and daughters
that have been waiting around
for the promises of their partners.
And you gotta be okay with marrying a new convert, you guys.
Not a new Christian, okay?
A new Christ follower, a new convert, that's different.
That's different, that hits differently, doesn't it?
That hits differently, that's different.
And so Jen, he can't pick you before he picks Jesus.
Okay, and you can't pick him before that.
So if a conversion happens to him,
and once again, you guys, this takes out of the equation,
people, you know, getting religion to get us.
This is about conversion.
And so I'm glad that, you know,
you have a representation of what it's like
to be, to have a masculine man around
who's willing to take care of things,
but we need him to be divinely masculine,
which means, you know, we need him to be a son of God.
And so stay off the slippery slope.
Okay, because if he's on your couch,
you got dick pics in your phone, you know,
and there's-
None of that was at the same time.
I know, but there's a penis in the living room.
So the bottom line is,
and it's attached to a real live man
that seems pretty sexy,
because I think it's sexy when people fix things
and do things, I'm like,
oh, baby, that's hot.
So just make sure that you keep your head on straight
and understand that he definitely is attracted to something
but don't let what God meant for good
be turned into something else, okay?
Because you're not putting it in the right context.
Keep it in the right context.
And definitely I wouldn't let him spend the night
at your house, you know,
especially with all the situation ship
that's going on right now.
Just so you keep yourself out of any kind of
further confusion with that.
And your other thing about the God said,
okay, God said no about,
hey, there's this secret abuse in your past
that you don't know about, you know,
God said, that's not true.
I can't tell you how many people come into this program
and they're like,
I think that maybe I was abused as a child
and I've just blocked it out.
And that idea came to them
through some kind of counseling,
some kind of sozo, some kind of whatever.
Y'all, let a word be established, okay?
But at the same time,
if you don't resonate with it, which you haven't,
why do these birds always fly into my window?
What in the world is happening?
That scared me to death.
You know, if there's a witness in your spirit
to something that someone's telling you
that they're sensing in the spirit or whatever,
and stuff, then you just put a pin in it, which you have,
and then you've allowed it beautifully
to come to a fullness of transparency.
And that is, God's telling you, it's not true.
It's not true.
But this behavior pattern of wanting to be accepted
and not wanting to be rejected and all this stuff
comes from some other trauma in your life
from this bullying situation
when you were in middle school, okay?
You guys, this will happen so often in the heart work
where you'll know that you have some sort of
behavior pattern that you don't like,
but you don't know where it comes from.
Or you're not even real,
you don't even realize how toxic
this behavior pattern really is
until God kind of helps you unpack it and shows you where,
and it's usually rooted in something
that you're not expecting.
A lot of times, it's rooted in something
that you maybe even forgot about, Jen.
You're like, you didn't even, you know,
it's like, okay, yeah, that's, do what?
I was pretty shocked when he brought it up.
Yeah, you're like, okay, that happens to everyone,
who cares, I got bullied in school,
whatever, I moved on with my life.
Raise your hand if you were bullied
and not even just in school,
but maybe bullied at a job, bullied by a sibling,
bullied by a parent.
You guys, we can get bullied by our parents too, you know?
Yeah, lots of people being bullied here, see?
So that can definitely cause people pleasing.
It also can cause the opposite.
It can cause us to be a hard ass, really, it can.
Tough, always looking for a fight,
always expecting to be rejected,
and so then we always get rejected.
So this is good stuff today.
Did anyone get anything?
There's lots and lots of tidbits today.
Hopefully everyone caught something really great.
Jen, thank you for being so transparent.
Stephanie as well, Kelly as well,
everyone who shared and did anything in the chat as well.
Thank you guys so much.
Father God, we thank you for what is going on here
in this group of women in their hearts.
You've brought them here for a very special time
in their lives where you are writing wrongs
and you are taking them out of the wrong thinking
and putting them into places of abundance.
out of places of scarcity,
out of places of narrow-mindedness,
out of places of religious mindsets,
out of places where they are living in
constant sin, shame, condemnation cycles,
and you are setting their feet off the path of pain
and leading them back to you,
to your wonderful Father's heart,
full of unconditional grace and mercy, love,
showing them that it's not about what they can do,
but it's about what you can do together
in the right timing and in the right context.
In Jesus' name, amen.
All right, lots of more opportunities for all of you.
So please don't ever feel like, you know,
you don't have a bright and beautiful future ahead
because you really do.
That's the truth, all right?
So go with Jesus and I will see you soon.
And there's an eight o'clock tonight, totally different.
I guarantee it.
So if you want to double dose, come to that.
And then we have for this group,
guys, we are moving to the app.
We're moving our first batch of people to the app.
So you guys are in phase one.
So probably sometime before you get into phase two
or phase two, you'll be invited over to the app.
And I'm super excited about how efficient
and organized that is going to be for everyone.
All right, so that's it.
I'll see you on Saturday.