Hello, good evening, everyone.
Hello, hello.
It's great to see you all.
My name is Bethany Cooper.
I'm one of the heart work coaches here
in our phase one group.
So good to see so many lovely faces tonight.
I'm sure we'll have some others joining us soon.
Want to encourage you,
if you're joining us for the first time,
I'd love to see you raise your physical hand,
digital hand, or you can put it in the chat,
whatever works for you, just so I can see who's here.
Oh, okay, we got Kim, Naomi.
Let's see.
Can you guys hear me?
Can everyone hear me?
Okay, I thought, because people were responding.
So Carissa, can someone, would someone just mind?
Oh, Anya, you just did, thank you.
Okay, so let's see, I was saying Kim, Naomi,
and I feel like someone else was waving their hand,
that it was your first time and I don't want to miss you.
Was someone else new tonight for the first time?
Okay, I see you, Debbie.
Thank you, I saw your hand before.
All right, great.
Welcome to all of our first time new ladies.
It's so great to have you joining us
for those watching the replay.
If you're joining us for the first time as well, welcome,
and it's gonna be an incredible journey, you all.
You guys, I hope you're in
for just everything God has for you.
It's gonna be good, sometimes it's gonna be hard,
and sometimes it's gonna be everything in between.
So we're just gonna leave it there for that.
But when you just, you really lean into trusting
the Holy Spirit and the Father and Jesus Christ
in your process, you won't end up disappointed, okay?
And you just allow him to guide you in the process.
We're gonna be here to coach you the whole way.
Engaging in the group, I'm gonna tell you,
if you don't engage in the group yet,
even some of my ones that are almost finished,
some of y'all are still not posting,
and we love you, and we understand.
Some people just get really nervous to do that.
But I wanna encourage you, if I'm speaking to you right now,
that you would take that step and come out of hiding
this week before you move on to the next group
and do a post, you know, just, it can be anything.
What is God doing in your heart this week?
You know, how did he grow you?
But also for those that are joining, you know,
you're here just now brand new,
maybe you're a week in, two weeks in,
a big part of what we do here in heart healing
is we heal our hearts, but we also come out of hiding.
We stop hiding and pretending
that we're just good doing life alone,
because God did not create us to do life alone.
And there'll be people, this happens all the time,
that will private message me, and they will say,
can I just tell you what I need to share
and what I'm processing,
because I just cannot post this in the group.
And my answer for all of you is always going to be the same,
posted in the group.
And here's why, because there's power in being seen
and heard, some of you all have never shared things
with certain people that God is going to nudge you
through the Holy Spirit to share here in this group.
And it's gonna bring you incredible freedom.
And I even feel the Holy Spirit
as I'm talking to you guys about that.
A woman in phase three right now,
for the first time ever,
told her mother about abuse that she went through.
That didn't go great, so you know where she turned?
To us.
You wanna know why?
Because she knows she's safe here.
So I wanna encourage you all,
we're never gonna twist your arm.
I don't want you to feel like you gotta come
and spill every detail.
You always ask Holy Spirit anyways,
what do you need to share?
But I just want you to know, do we make mistakes?
We're human, you all, we're human.
But I'm gonna tell you, we're gonna give it our best shot
to create a safe environment for you here
in this group and in this community.
And so I hope that you'll take advantage of it
because I believe it'll bring you
an incredible breakthrough if you do.
Okay, I have a couple of housekeeping things
in addition to that.
I really wasn't planning on doing that.
So I think the Lord wanted you guys to hear that tonight.
For those that have not heard this before,
it's super important, when you are here in heartwork,
you're here to receive.
So I'm gonna encourage you all,
can you all pretend right now,
I know this is kind of like elementary,
but it's gonna help you.
So just go with me.
Let's just pretend we all have helper hats on right now.
I'm gonna leave mine on
because I'm supposed to be helping you.
And you all, you're just gonna take that helper hat off
and you're just gonna park it
because in this group, you aren't the helper.
You don't have to coach, you don't have to counsel,
you don't have to give advice.
That's what we're here for.
You just get to be here and receive,
you can cheer your sisters on,
you can encourage one another.
But I really want to recommend and encourage you all to not give each other advice or feel like you if someone shares
Here's really important. Don't feel like you have to solve it
Okay, that's when our helper kicks in because I mean I'm a huge helper you all do you know how hard it was for me?
When I went through heart work to turn that thing off
Super hard, but when I did it I quit trying to fix everybody else to avoid
What needed fixed in my own heart and see that's what happens people that are really good at giving and helping
We always are so busy helping everybody else and we're not putting the mask on ourself
and so that's why we're still some of us struggling and we're going around the same mountains over and over and
God brought you here so that you can be set free from that
So you're gonna practice receiving and you're gonna get really good at it by the end of this. I hope
All right
If you are here in phase one and you have finished phase one
You're all the way done phase one is five weeks long you all okay
If you go faster than that, especially people that try to get done in like two or three weeks
We're gonna lovingly encourage you
To come back and start over. We're gonna encourage you to not move on because you need to be here
That's why you're here
But if you are all the way done you've finished your five weeks of work and if it takes some of you longer
That's okay, too
But if you've finished all that and you're still here in phase one
I want to encourage you all to take the leap to take the leap and do it and move on over to the phase
Two Facebook group. Okay, you need to be there to get the coaching that aligns with the phase two content
Because what's starting to happen is some of you all are trying to get coaching in phase one
And it's confusing because you're talking about boys and all kinds of stuff
So y'all need to move over to phase two if that is you and we love you and we're gonna be over there
Coaching you over there. Okay. All right
The last thing is I want to just clarify I call them the three peas
Because in our community we have all kinds of peas y'all so it's gonna be confusing and I'm sorry
We're trying to we're trying to get that kind of cleared up, but we have three phases
We have phase one which is heartwork we have phase two, which is love story accelerator
accelerator and phase three
Which we call our community. It's our momentum builder. There's so much going on over there
But the reason I'm mentioning that is because even sometimes we have so many peas in this community that people get confused
So when you're working through each week, it's week one week two
Week three week four week five and the only reason I'm kind of giggling a little bit is even on a coaching session last week
I think Jackie might have called it phase one phase two, which we have that but she was talking about the week content
So I just want to make sure everyone's all on the same page and it's not a huge thing
But I just felt like that might bring clarity for everyone. All right. Are y'all ready? It's nice gonna be so good you all
I
Need to mute that. All right. Thank you, Carissa. Thank you so much
All right. How do I access video and sound on my phone Lauren on on the bottom? Oh
You're probably talking about how can you hear I?
Don't know
If you can't hear currently from your phone if you go to
Let me actually grab I can I can I can get it real quick ladies bear with me so we can help her
Be able to hear
And take me just a minute or two so just
Thank you father for grace and patience and the hearts of our ladies. Let them just soak in your presence right now
while they're waiting
Hear their hearts to receive the word that you have for them in this special time tonight Lord
let it be a night of breakthrough and healing and
Redemption Lord help them to hear
Your voice whispering in the still small places of their heart places even they've been afraid to go at times
But Lord, I thank you that you're a gentleman. You don't barge through the door of their hearts
But you you knock you stand at the door and you knock and you ask can I enter?
Can I come in and deal with this place in your heart? Can I help you heal?
Can I help you come out of hiding and Lord?
I thank you that tonight your daughters or your daughters your beloved ones are going to respond
Yes, so Lord. I thank you that you're helping us even right now even as I'm
Kind of fumbling around on the computer or that they're here in your spirit and that they hear
You calling out to their hearts where they're at
to hear what your spirit is saying to them. Help them to see, to know, and to be known by you in
every way. In Jesus name, amen. Let's see if I just was able to do this, ladies.
All right. Oh, shoot. It won't let me share it. It's too long. All right. Let me shorten this.
We'll get this in here for her. Let's see if it'll let it go through. All right. If y'all ever have
any trouble hearing sound, dial in to one of those numbers that's local to you. Okay. I'm going
to not spend much more time there, but that's one of the ways you can do it if your phone audio
isn't working the other way. Like if it doesn't automatically pick up. All right. So tonight,
we're going to take a trip. We're going to take a little trip and we're going to talk about fear.
And then we're going to talk about forgiveness tonight. I've had so many people.
We're going to have so many people that have said they're stuck in forgiveness. Forgive me.
I've lost my train of thought there for a second. That have mentioned they're feeling stuck in
forgiveness. They're struggling to forgive people. And so we're going to process that
together tonight. So as we step into the fear, specifically what God put on my heart to share
with you all in the space of fear, I believe it's building on some of the things Jackie even
touched on last week. If you guys heard her session, if you're brand new, it's okay if you
haven't heard it. But she kind of talked about how unbelief and fear, when we live in constant fear
and we partner with fear, it's actually sin. Okay. Because the spirit brings life. The spirit brings
freedom. And so if we're continuing to live and really allowing that to take over in our lives,
it can become sin to us. And some people might be saying right now, well, wait,
fear is also a spirit. And yes, you're right. It is. The spirit of fear, it does operate in that
way. But we, at some point, whether unconsciously or not, agree with that. And that's how it
starts to develop a stronghold. Okay. So, but what I want to talk about specifically is not that.
This morning, I was in Proverbs 3, verse 24 through 26. And something that I read just
jumped right out at me. And it made me think of some of the stuff that Jackie has talked about,
about how many people are afraid that the other shoe is always going to drop.
Has anybody ever felt like that before? You're just always afraid that the other shoe,
like even if something starts going good, you're just like, when, okay, how long is this going to
last? You know, you just don't think that you're going to be able to live in the promised land,
if you will, and maintain and live in that. But I'm here to tell you tonight that God wants to
tell you something about that to set you free. So in this scripture, in verse 24, we're going to
focus on verse 25, but I felt led to read 24 through 26. And I'm not going to teach a lot.
I'm just going to kind of come in and give this to you real quick. And then we're going to,
we're going to unpack it together in breakouts and then group coaching.
It says, verse 24, when you lie down, you will not be afraid. When you lie down,
your sleep will be sweet. And that I felt led to read it because it's a promise for some of you,
you have terrible sleep, the enemy attacks you in your sleep. And you've been asking God about it.
He specifically wanted me to tell you that he sees you and he is fighting on your behalf.
And his declaration over you is that you will lie down and your sleep will be sweet.
Verse 25, have no fear of sudden disaster, have no fear of sudden disaster or of the ruin that
overtakes the wicked. Verse 26, for the Lord will be at your side and will keep your foot
from being snared. You all literally, it says, have no fear, none, no fear at all.
So let's talk about that. How do we have no fear? Well, we don't partner with fear. We turn away
from fear and we turn towards faith. I'm going to read something to you real quick.
Has anyone ever heard Zach Williams? Fear is a liar song. Anyone ever heard that? It's powerful.
I'm going to read something to you real quick. These are the first two stanzas, I think that's
what it's called, of the lyrics of, I'm not going to read the whole song, just the first two,
I'll call them paragraphs. I don't know if stanzas, whatever it is. This is what it says.
When he, let's just kind of imagine he being the enemy, the devil, the liar, the deceiver.
When he told you you're not right, when he told you you're not strong enough
to put up a good fight, when he told you,
told you you're not worthy when he told you you're not loved
when he told you you're not beautiful. You'll never be
enough. Fear. He is a liar. He will take your breath, stop you
in your steps fear. He is a liar. He will rob your rest,
steal your happiness, cast your fear in the fire, because fear.
He is a liar. And I just thought that was so powerful. I want to
start to activate you guys in this because I don't want to
just sit here and teach I want you guys to start engaging with
the content. So I want to start hearing from you in the chat. So
what I mean by that to activate you is to give you something and
have you start acting on it. So that's what that means when we
say that to you. I want you to put in the chat. Could be today
it could have been in the last week. What is a fear that you
have been battling you personally? Go ahead and start
to put those in the chat for us. Fear I'll be alone forever. I
fear that hurt everyone that I'm close to fear of failure, fear
of rejection, not having money. I'll do my best to keep up
there and start coming real quick. Now being alone forever
financial conflict that God doesn't want for me more than
what I have. Okay. That's a good one becoming homeless. All
right, fear of not having romantic relationship working
out. Fear them too fat, ugly for a husband to want me. So
appreciate y'all's honesty. It's very important in this process.
Fear of not having money being alone. The ones they're all
standing out to me. These are all really powerful, but I keep
going back in my heart to one of the ones fear that I hurt
everyone that I'm close to. All right, I'm going to unpack this
for a minute. Just feel the Lord on this as well. So let's look
at this fear that I hurt everyone that I'm close to. If
that was me coaching you and helping you process heartwork. I
would encourage you anyone, if this is you, you feel like that
at some point that, you know, I've even had people say
everyone that gets close to me dies. And they really believe
that. And it's because they've lost a lot of people like
they've gone through traumatic things. And so what we do in
that is ask the Lord to reveal the first time, when is the
first time you lost someone in your life or someone that was
close to you got hurt? And you believe the lie that it was
because they were close to you. Okay, so that's how it helped
them start unpacking that. So if you guys you can look at your
hurts to or your rejections or your fears or whatever it is
that you're processing and the things that are coming up, you
know, why do we fear being homeless? Well, it might be
because at some point we lost a home. I at one point when I was
married before we got evicted from our house. It was horrible,
horrible feeling. And so have I had to do hard work around that?
Absolutely. Well, even when we just, you know, my husband and I
were getting moved in where we're getting moved to
different church, we're moving to Florida. But before that all
happened, there was just some upheaval is what I'll call it.
The enemy was trying to come in and cause some stuff. You know,
we got word that we might be asked to move out of the current
parsonage that we're in in two weeks. Tell me that I didn't
have some fear coming up you all. I did. I did. And I had to
really work at not allowing the enemy to come in and get a
foothold because of the things I went through before. And so I
had to just be honest with myself. Okay, why is this coming
up? Oh, I'm afraid. Because I did lose my house before.
Because somebody that was supposed to provide for me
didn't. And while my husband's doing an amazing job providing,
this is happening because of his job. Y'all see how the enemy
works? Okay, now had I taken that bait, I might have gotten
upset with my husband when it had nothing to do with him,
right? So that's how we kind of stop these things at the gate
and we don't let them in. And we're not going to do it
perfectly. I promise you guys are going to learn as you go. I
have I still have to learn and remind myself how to stop this
stuff at the gate. So that's what I want to help you do
tonight regarding fear. So I want to encourage you whatever
fear you put in the chat. I want to encourage you right now just
start asking the Lord privately. Like Lord, where did this start
for me? When was the first time?
I felt fear about this thing.
Thank you, Father.
So Lord, we just thank you that you are showing them,
even right now, Lord, where their fears are derived
from the root wound that happened
that caused them to fear it today,
that the enemy's still coming in
and he's trying to lie to them and deceive them
and cause them to think
they have to fear that thing still today.
We thank you for revelation and truth.
All right, so I wanna keep going on this.
I appreciate y'all sharing in there.
The Bible says that the spirit of fear
has to do with torment, which is punishment.
And that's from 1 John 4, 18.
It says, there's no fear in love,
but perfect love drives out fear
because fear has to do with punishment.
The one who fears is not made perfect in love.
I remember you all, and I'm sharing some of this tonight
because I used to be severely afraid of the dark.
I'm not joking, like terrified.
I had a lot of anxiety stuff.
I had a lot of panic attacks when I was younger.
A lot of that stemmed from things that were,
that the abuse I endured,
a lot of that stuff happened in the dark.
Like there's all kinds of connections
that I've been able to understand
as God has revealed them over the years.
But I used to feel so stupid.
I'm not kidding.
Like, because even as a teenager, high school,
like graduating, I would run from one side of the kitchen
to the other because I was afraid people in the dark
outside the windows would see me.
I know it sounds strange, but that is what I believed.
And I was terrified because of it.
And I gave in and sometimes I would run up the stairs
really fast from the basement to the upstairs
because I was afraid stuff was after me.
And so I don't want to feed you all's fears,
but I want to kind of share transparently
because as I started learning how to overcome that,
I started learning the truth of God's word
and God started teaching me
to not give in to that panic and that fear.
And there were times you all, I would feel that,
I would feel that fear and the Lord would tell me,
don't run up the stairs.
He would just whisper, don't run,
walk and declare my truth.
And so you all, there were times that I,
and everything in me, I wanted to run up the stairs
because I still felt my feelings.
I felt that fear in my flesh.
I felt it.
And I quoted, God's not given me a spirit of fear.
He's given me a spirit of love,
enough power and of a sound mind.
And I would just say it over and over.
And you all, it took time.
It took time and it took commitment to that.
But here's the other piece.
As I went through something later on,
I had overcome in that season
when I went through all the betrayal
in that relationship before that I was in for six years.
And I went through all the deep turmoil.
It was like it opened Pandora's box again.
And all that fear started trying to come back in.
And so I remember asking the Lord about it.
And he gave me this scripture.
And I remember like saying to the Lord,
but I know you love me.
So why am I not free of this?
And he said, do you?
Do you know my love in its fullness?
And he wasn't shaming me.
He wasn't guilding me, but he was calling me deeper.
He was calling me into a,
he was saying to me, you do, but I have more.
I have more of my love for you to understand.
I have more of my love for you to enter
in such a way that fear will be like,
it will be dispelled from you.
Because y'all, when we get into the light,
no darkness can exist there.
And he is the light.
So if I'm struggling, yes, Lord.
If I'm struggling, I just need to get with my daddy
and I just need to get close to him.
And I need to understand his character more
and his goodness and his kindness and his love.
And I know some of you have been raised in church
your whole lives.
And you're like, I already know this,
but I'm gonna invite you to ask yourself, do you really?
Because it says here that if we fear,
we haven't been made perfect in love.
Now there is no perfection until we go to heaven, y'all.
Okay, we're all, we're becoming,
but what I wanna encourage you is that tonight
you can go a step closer to his love
and a step further away from living a life
of fear and panic and heartache.
Hiding and believing that he doesn't have good stuff for you that it's just for everybody else, but not me
God doesn't come through for me. That is a lie from the pit of hell and
The enemy wants you to believe it and tonight. I'm gonna encourage you to get out of that fear place and choose a different heart posture
Do y'all know that I'm not trying to oversimplify it, but it literally was a choice for me
It was a choice every day to stop running from the fear and
To feel it and come out of that sucker
Just to come on right out of that and it's different for everyone for some of you. It might be a bigger battle
I'm not trying to minimize your situation, but I'm telling you it's possible. It's possible
Knowing him more as love abiding in his love more helps us heal more and that's what drives out the fear
We're not the ones doing it as we remain in him as we get filled
with rivers of living water
That will cause all that stuff. Just like if I had imagine I wish you got I wish I would have thought of this earlier
Imagine just pretend this is a clear cup. Okay, just pretend
Doesn't look green you all it looks clear. Can you tell all right?
If I had a clear glass of water, this is full
I won't tip it too far because I'll go on my my computer, but it's full of water
But let's just imagine it's murky water. So that's why the cup is green. I planned this in advance
All right. Let's just imagine this is dirty water
so imagine the fear that exists in your life right now if
I take clear water and I pour it into the cup of dirty water
At first it still looks a little murky and dirty
But you keep pouring that clear water and y'all I mean, do you guys know where I'm going with this? What happens?
That dirty water ends up clear you all it ends up clear
And so what we can understand from this tonight is that the more that you get filled
With the renewing water of heaven and that river of living water and you're you're spending time in the love of the Father
It's going to cause all that stuff whether it's fear
Rejection, you know sin maybe choices that you're making that aren't good for you. Whatever it is
That that all can get cleared out of you
It just takes some time and commitment
All right. All right, so I'm gonna put you in to your breakout session
I want to encourage you guys this last scripture
I'm gonna give you before I put you in there is Romans 10 17, and this is what it says. I'm paraphrasing
I think it's almost the full verse
faith
comes by hearing and
hearing by the Word of God
That's totally fine. Laura. I'm gonna read it again faith comes by hearing and
Hearing by the Word of God, so I've given you all the Word of God tonight. I've given you the truth
So you're hearing it as
I'm speaking the word out and tonight you get to choose to step into it if you're
Here tonight, and you can't go into a breakout. You can just stay in the main room with me
Please don't everybody do that only people that literally cannot because you're working or you're driving or something
I'm gonna put you in breakouts it for those of you that are new what break of breakouts are is I'm gonna give you a
question
That when you go into the room, I'm gonna set up the breakout
It'll send you a little thing when I send it through and you'll click to join the breakout
You'll be in there with you know, two two or three people total and you guys are gonna share with each other
I'm asking you to share with someone you might not know I am
But I'm gonna ask you guys to come out of your comfort zone because everyone
At some point feels afraid
We're talking about fear tonight
So, please don't let fear keep you from what God wants to use to
Help you feel love and support and community. Okay, so this is your question
For your first breakout session. Your first question is
Let's see, did I put it in here? Yes
What are you fearing today? Some of you guys already put those in the chat
So you might already have that fresh unless you feel led to share a different one and
How are you going to come out of agreement with that fear and choose to partner with love? Okay. So what is the fear?
What is the fear that you're having today or you've had recently you can do it
however, you want and how are you gonna come out of agreement with that fear and partner with love today and
If you don't know how to answer the second part of that question
That's okay
guess
Who does?
The Father, Jesus Christ, and Holy Spirit,
they know that answer.
So just, and some of you guys,
this is gonna be you guys also grow,
you ladies also growing in your ability
to recognize that God is talking to you.
Don't get frustrated if you don't hear him right away.
Sometimes it takes time, okay?
But you can just ask him,
Lord, what is something I can do
to come out of fear tonight
and start partnering and aligning with faith?
And just see what comes up in your spirit and trust it, okay?
All right, the first one,
I'm gonna put you in there for eight minutes
because forgiveness, I feel like it's gonna take
a little longer than eight minutes tonight.
Typically we need more time to talk about that and breakouts.
All right, I'm gonna put rooms of three to four
just because I've had a couple of people saying
they can't do breakouts.
I don't wanna get a bunch of people stuck.
All right, there's that, let me see.
Yeah, cool.
All right, here you all go.
I'm gonna be praying for you.
Go ahead and click to join.
While you're doing that, I just need to grab something
I totally forgot to have here.
All right, is everyone getting in there?
Go ahead and click to join.
All right, cool, we got a couple of people there.
Okay, keep clicking to join.
If you are still, if you're gonna do breakout sessions.
All right, I think I need to move this young lady.
All right, ladies, I'm almost done.
I just need to make sure everybody's situated.
I don't want anyone alone.
Okay, all right, Father, thank you so much
for everyone that is here tonight.
Those that are watching the replay,
those that are in the breakouts,
even those that aren't able to do breakouts tonight,
but they're just here in your presence.
We just thank you for revealing things for healing.
We thank you, God,
that you're continuing to set your daughters free.
I thank you that you would just continue to help them
to hear what your spirit is saying to them.
You would bring things to their minds,
even as they're talking,
to know what to share and how to share it.
Hi, Chrissa, did you get kicked out?
Hey, so I'm on my phone and on my laptop
because I had audio on one and then video on the other.
Okay, I think I just got put in both rooms.
Oh, shoot, okay, hold on one second.
So I declined it on my phone and I'm in it on my laptop.
Okay, let me see where you're at.
I think I'm in eight.
I see you, I see you, okay, hold on one second.
On my laptop.
Yeah, I just sent it to you, you should have it now.
Okay.
Okay, so Laura, we just thank you right now
for breakthroughs that are happening,
breakthroughs that are going to happen.
We thank you, Laura, that you would just come in
and just wash over their hearts, their minds,
their spirits, their bodies, and their souls.
I thank you, God, that you would bring anything in darkness
to the light that needs to be brought to the surface
so that they can step further into your love tonight.
I pray that you would help them to hear
what your spirit's saying, to heal in ways
that they didn't even know was possible before.
I thank you, Lord, that you are the redeemer,
that you're the one that comes in
and redeems all situations.
And you're the great physician, nothing is too hard for you.
I thank you that you're going to continue to help them too.
Yes, Lord, I thank you that you would place
the balm of Gilead upon every wound.
We know in your word, the balm of Gilead is a medicine,
essentially a balm that is placed onto people
in the Old Testament that brought them great healing.
So we thank you for this healing power
and virtue coming from heaven.
We know that that was something that happened in the Bible,
but I know that you're the one
that can go into all parts of a timeline.
So Lord, we know that you can do that even for us today.
Okay, so Lord, we just thank you for divine healing
and anointing oil to come from heaven
and wash over your daughters and bring healing and wholeness.
We just call forth grace and mercy.
God, I thank you that you would just come against,
yes, Lord, that you would raise up a standard
against the enemy in every area of our lives
and that you tonight would raise up a standard
against the enemy regarding fear in our lives
and you would help us to see the light
and to know that your light does cast out all darkness.
It does cast out all fear.
And I thank you that we don't have to partner
with fear or torment.
We know that the enemy at times can attack us
and try to bring that upon us, but I thank you, God,
that we are covered by your blood, Jesus Christ.
And I thank you that we can stand in the victory
that you already won for us.
And I thank you that even in the times
that we're enduring physical things here in this world,
that you would align us to heaven.
And we just call forth right now,
your kingdom plans and purposes
for every one of these ladies.
We call it forth from heaven here on earth this day.
And we just thank you that you would help us
to step further into the understanding
of who you originally created us to be without fear,
without blemish, without wounds and trauma,
help us to get back to the original design
that you created for us.
And it's never too late for us.
Lord, I thank you for that truth.
I just heard the Lord say that so loud, it's never too late.
So I just speak that over all of you,
that it's never too late for us to have a turnaround story.
It's never too late.
God's so amazing at writing and rewriting stories
and timelines and life stories.
And I responded to someone's weekly roll call post
like maybe an hour ago.
And one of the things I was saying is,
they up to this point,
their parents didn't have a good marriage.
They didn't have a good marriage.
And so they're struggling to even want,
like they're really realizing they actually struggled
to even want to get married.
And so the thing that I shared with them
was that I had similar experience.
My parents did not have a good marriage at all.
Now my grandparents did, but my parents did not.
And I did not have a good first marriage.
And then I had really terrible
couple other relationships after that.
But amazing, amazing God.
He's so powerful.
We heal.
I went through the whole healing process.
There's a lot of work I did
before I came into this community.
And God had been healing and redeeming
and restoring and rebuilding.
And I met my now husband, Brian.
And you all have the funnest life I've ever had,
sincerely.
And I'm not making that up.
Like, I'm not, I mean, it's marriage.
It's normal.
We have our little bumps.
Everybody does.
And you're growing in relationship with each other.
But literally, I laugh more than I've ever laughed
in my life.
And I get to be myself and I'm safe and I'm protected.
We travel and go all over and we go explore places.
But like, we really laugh and enjoy life.
And I can tell you that years ago,
I didn't know if that would be possible, but it is.
And I'm saying to you tonight that if he's done it for me,
he can do it for you too.
He can do it for you too.
So part of my journey, I had to agree with the truth
that I was a bride and that God had good things for me.
And so I wanna encourage you when you see this,
or if you're here live, if you see the replay,
whichever way that you will start aligning with the truth,
not just declaring it out loud,
but allowing God to get that deep in your heart
that you are a bride and he has good plans for you.
And God will fulfill his promises to you
as you continue to partner with him
and activate these truths in your life.
And so I'm just gonna continue to read some scriptures
as they start to come back.
We have about 60 seconds.
Romans 8.28 says,
so we are convinced that every detail of our lives
is continually woven together
to fit into God's perfect plan
of bringing good into our lives.
For we are his lovers who have been called according,
or excuse me, who have been called
to fulfill his designed purpose.
So Lord, we just thank you for your design purpose
in our lives.
We thank you that you are not finished with us yet.
And even when we don't see it, God, you're working.
Just like years ago, the Lord showed me,
I looked down and I saw all these little ants
scurrying you all.
As people start to come back,
I just feel led to tell the story.
I saw all these little ants scurrying in these bugs.
And I'd seen that before.
You know, you grow up, you see these.
these all your life, but this day in particular,
God was like, look at, watch them, learn from them.
Y'all, it wasn't just about the ants were busy,
here's what he wanted to show me.
Those ants and those insects were underneath the surface
all along.
They're always there working, whether we see them or not.
And God said, it's just like that.
I'm always working whether you see it or not.
So for whoever that's for tonight, he's always working.
He's always working.
It's whether or not we believe and partner with that truth.
All right, who is willing?
If I say who wants to, nobody raises their hands.
So I'm gonna say who is willing to be tribute and go first.
I feel like I saw a hand and then somebody put it down.
Okay, all right.
Now, do you say your name Anja, Anja?
Anja.
Tell me again.
Anja.
Anja, okay.
I'm gonna, I gotta do phonetics because I'll forget.
So I'll try to remember my notes next week.
Okay, go ahead.
I'd love for you to share.
So the fear that's been coming up for me
truthfully a lot lately is fear of losing my mom.
She has a chronic kidney disease.
She's had it more longer than I've been alive
and just recently in this last year,
transplants are no longer an option.
And so we're just taking it day by day.
I mean, she's doing okay.
She's not necessarily at the very end of things
but it just kind of hit, it made things very real.
And so that's been something I've been dealing with
off and on a lot lately.
Like I say off and on,
the off is when I don't let myself think about it.
And so just grieving,
living in this kind of ambiguous grief
where she's still here
but I don't know how much longer we have
and then wanting her to be at my wedding
and all of those pieces.
And so I just was sharing with the ladies.
I actually had a dream about it this last week
and the short of it is there was this group of people
that were talking to her
and she started laughing uncontrollably.
And I was like, she was leaning back
and I was trying to hang on to her and hold her up.
And I kept saying, mom, mom, don't go, don't go.
And at one point I even,
like I was crying and I broke down.
I was like, mommy, don't leave me.
And I felt the Lord behind me
and yet I was kind of removed from it
even though I was there with her,
just saying, let her go.
And like the sense of like, I've got you or lean into me.
And I woke up like crying, of course, as well,
but I just feel like that.
I mean, that's the answer.
I don't know a practical way per se,
but just the like to lean into him.
I've been trying to do that just when it comes up,
being like, okay, like, Lord, I do.
I surrender, that whole thing of surrender,
the permissions that we did.
Just, I surrender her to you.
I surrender the outcome to you.
I can't control it.
And just trusting that we'll have the fullness
of the days that she's given.
So, yeah.
Oh, sweet sister, bless you.
Thank you for sharing.
You know, I love where you're at with this.
I think you're in the best spot you can be in this process.
The one thing I wanna say is that
the dream, y'all, these things can be interpreted naturally,
but they can also be interpreted spiritually.
And you're doing that because you're seeing,
you know, you're kind of have,
you're living in this real situation, right?
And I do think the Lord is encouraging you to let her go.
And maybe that will mean a physical letting go.
I don't know.
But what I wanna encourage you is that
sometimes it's a letting go within,
you know, in those fears,
because see, the fear is even causing like,
some withholding, like holding back,
or, you know, like that fear of planning your life,
or, because, you know, all these things, the what ifs.
So if you can even let go of some of those in this process,
I believe really what resonates is what you said,
like, the Lord is saying, I've got you.
Like, Anya, right?
Is that right?
Anya?
Yeah.
Okay.
That he's got you.
That no matter what, I've got you.
And he's not gonna let you fall.
And I will tell you,
I'm not gonna let you fall.
And I don't, I don't mean that this means this is going to be your outcome.
I'm not gonna let you fall.
I had been married before, but I, even so it ended up not going well.
And I really wanted my mom at this wedding.
That was not the case.
That was not what happened for me.
And I remember thinking like, what am I going to do now?
Like I'm not close to my dad and now my mom's not here and I have no one to walk me down
the aisle.
And I just remember really wrestling and being frustrated about that.
And all of a sudden the Lord said, like, you have family, you have community.
And I'm not saying it takes away the hard parts.
Okay.
Cause the reality is you all, we're all going to have some hard parts at times we've got
to face and go through.
But what I am saying is, and I'm not saying this is possible for everyone else.
Cause people then are like, oh my gosh, I want her to do that.
But I felt led to ask Jackie Dorman to do it for me.
And she's my friend.
She's my mentor.
We were, you know, we work alongside.
And so there was something supernatural that was happening in that transaction, if you
will.
And so I just, I was kind of like, I don't know about this, but okay.
Like, but it was, it was a glorious day.
It was a glorious day and God showed up in so many ways to show me my mom.
You all, my mom and I shared butterflies back and back and forth for years, all kinds of
butterfly things.
It was a God thing between us.
And I had a butterfly release.
I didn't plan on sharing this, but I just feel led to, I had a butterfly release.
I had this whole thing planned to honor my mom and my husband.
Y'all, I know this is going to sound like it's going somewhere bad, but it's not.
I had this whole thing planned.
I had this whole picture in my head of how it was going to go.
You all, not one butterfly in those things lived, y'all I'm a control freak.
Imagine that moment.
And I just laughed in my wedding.
I laughed.
I was like, well, that didn't go as planned and everyone just started laughing, but here's
the kicker.
Do y'all know?
I didn't know the whole time there was a butterfly on my veil.
We got married near a butterfly garden.
And there was a butterfly on my veil the whole time.
People that were at the wedding took a picture of it and sent it to me.
Y'all, my mom was there.
Was she that butterfly?
No, but I believe God sent that.
I believe God sent that to show me tangibly.
She's here.
So I want to encourage you all.
This is the part of letting go that I want to encourage.
So again, I didn't mean to go into all that, but for anybody that struggles with this kind
of thing of like getting married again and someone that you really wanted there might
not be able to be there physically, God can do all kinds of stuff.
Thank you for sharing.
And we're going to believe for your mama to be just fine and be all the way there and
all the things.
But I just wanted to share that to encourage you no matter what.
All right, Brittany, go ahead.
Okay.
So one thing that I have been fearing, and I believe it's still along the lines of worrying,
is I've been faced with kind of being reeled back into helping my grandmother.
So I've been her caregiver for about 12 years.
I live here and she's 88, God bless her, 88, still bathes herself, still cooks for herself,
still has a little sharp mind of her own, but she does have vascular dementia.
And I was just waiting for the doctor to confirm that, but I have help with family.
I fear that she is not going to be taken care of as she is supposed to be in the way that
the doctor would recommend it.
And the reason why I've had that fear is because I'm one of the only people besides my mom
who's been helping her, but she's been patient.
Like we've been patient with her, but my uncle lives here too.
And so that was unexpected and he's been here for a year and he is not patient and he himself
has short-term memory issues because he, by God's grace, he had brain surgery over
a year and a half ago and he wasn't supposed to make it, but they had to put his brain
back in the skull.
So he's still alive, still going, just short-term memory issues and he doesn't carry his weight
as much as he should be.
But I've been having that fear because I've gone through a lot of things with my grandmother
I'm just trying to give it away.
Cause the Lord is just really saying it's time because he's transitioning me.
So this is good.
I'm going to come back.
I'm going to let a couple of people share, and then I'm going to kind of
bounce and coach all of them at one time.
Thank you so much for sharing, Jen, go ahead.
Um, so one of the things that I shared in my group was that, um, one of the things
I don't know, not necessarily that I feared anything today.
It was just kind of an ongoing fear of, you know, um, my husband, um, I loved him
very much, but he was very narcissistic, very, um, emotionally abusive to both me
and my son, um, to where we've always felt like we were kind of walking on
eggshells around him, didn't know what we were going to do, truly believe
he was probably bipolar.
Um, but I thought I can fix him and I thought I could do everything in my
power to make him happy.
And of course that didn't work.
Um, and so unfortunately it ended, um, in suicide about three years ago.
And my fear is, um, like I want to be married again.
I want to fall in love again.
Um, but I always, I have that fear.
Like, will I find the same type of person who's going to be a narcissist
and will I be able to spot that?
Or will I, um, just fall for it again and have to endure that again.
So, or find, or, you know, meeting somebody with mental illness or
dealing with all of that, like, that's just a fear of mine.
And so like, I have the walls up of, I just don't want to be hurt again.
But then through the program I've been, you know, um, like the things that
you've said about, you know, no good people climb walls, only thieves climb
walls and, um, you know, giving God the pen, letting God write my story and not
me being in control and try to write my own story, but let him write it and, um,
trust that he is going to, um, he's going to work it out and that everybody
has yellow flags, but not everybody.
Some of those yellow flags, we may be looking hard and being like,
oh, that's a red flag, but it really isn't.
It's just what we're feeling.
Yes.
So many good things in there.
I'm going to, I'm going to kind of let the other ladies quickly share, and then
I'm going to come back and do some coaching.
So go ahead, Jen.
Thank you for sharing, Judy.
Go ahead.
Hi everyone.
So, um, I think for me, my fear is something that I've been
dealing with for a while.
And I think when I started this program, um, I started having dreams.
I never used to dream before.
So I started having dreams and I've shared a couple of dreams.
And one of the dreams that, um, kind of is recurring is one
that I feel like, um, I've never chosen.
I have this dream.
I think, Bethany, you helped me, um, on Facebook and, um, like I'm never, I'm,
I'm, I'm, I have these friends and they're planning a trip and everyone
is going for the trip except me.
And so I started thinking about the times when as a child, I was never chosen, you
know, and I remember one time my uncle said like, Oh, you know, uh, everyone in
this house is going to be married except you, you know, you're not the, one of
the most beautiful ones, you know, I like, I always felt like I don't, I don't
amount to anything.
So I think, um, I'm right now I'm on the, I'm on week four and I'm scared.
I'm scared of, of, of, of even finishing week four, because I'm like, if I finish
week five, it means I have to now face this thing.
And I haven't really been in a relationship for a very long time.
And I'm even so scared.
And I'm like, Lord, really, how will it work?
I don't even know how I'm going to manage that.
So, um, I just need the Lord's help to overcome that fear of, um, not being
wanted and not being chosen.
Y'all we're going to have some, we're going to have some fun tonight.
I'm going to let everybody keep sharing here after, after Annika, I see
Christina, you raised your hand too.
Okay.
So I'll let the three of you guys go, but then I'm going to ask nobody else
to raise their hand because I got to switch to forgiveness after this.
Go ahead, Mandy.
Oh, sorry.
Oh, that's okay.
I see you.
Uh, so my fear has been, um, feeling like I was going to miss it.
Like that I'll somehow or another miss it or mess up whatever God has in store for
me as especially finding a person, another person, um, after having been
divorced, cause I've only been with one other person that was my ex-husband.
And so, uh, joining this group actually was a huge deal, um, in stepping out of
the fear, but yet there's still this fear and each time, each time you go to.
another week, it's like you're getting closer and closer to
what could be coming next, but getting more and more afraid of,
can I still screw this thing up?
All right. Thank you for sharing. All right. Let's see.
Anika. Yeah, go ahead.
It's Anika. Yeah, thank you. Okay. Yeah, kind of in that
same vein. In my breakout group, we talked about how we desire
relationships so much, but we're actually so afraid of it. And so
afraid of being open and vulnerable with somebody. And so
I think we were talking about how sometimes that leads to
perfectionism of I have to be perfect. And then pointing out
like, we're talking about all the yellow flags, but then
thinking, Oh, well, is there a better person for me than this
person? And actually just what is the fear of intimacy? And
what is actual genuinely healthy concern? So just the fear of
not knowing and all of it turning into a little bit of a
mind chaos.
Yeah, yeah, these are good. You all. This is so good. Thank you
everyone who's been sharing. Christina, go ahead.
Um, I haven't felt a lot of conscious fear, but I've been
dreaming. And as we're talking, I remembered I've had multiple
dreams. There was someone that I felt like the Lord told me I was
going to marry when I was 15. I didn't know even know God talked
to people. And he showed up in a dream. And then it's someone
that I dated seriously, a little bit ago showed up in a
dream. And, but at the end, there was this long kind of
circuitous dream. And at the end of the dream, I saw this flash
of myself as like a five or six year old. And I heard her say,
love is scary. And then I woke up. And, and I've just kind of
been like, Lord, what, what is that, that my sweet little self
was like, that is terrifying.
Hey, thank you for sharing. These are these are so good.
Y'all I know it takes so much courage to share. The reason I
wanted to have you popcorn share is because I wanted to get
through everybody because it's super important for y'all to use
your voices, especially when we're talking about stuff like
this. And I know for some people, if you're, if you tend
to be more empathic, you might be like, Whoa, that's a lot. I'm
hearing a lot of stuff. But I want to encourage you just to
kind of like, shake it out. Y'all I'm an empath to but I've
I've been learning how to not take everybody's stuff on
myself. So I know that you can do it too. All right. So here's
the thing, a couple things I feel really important to point
out. I understand clinical diagnoses, and all of that
stuff, y'all. But one of the things we do in this community
is we separate someone struggle from the way we label them. So I
want to encourage all of you that have labeled people or even
people that have labeled you to come out from under the labels
people have put on you. But what I mean by that is the person I
used to date, this is how I'll give you the example. This is
true. The person I used to date for six years struggled with
narcissistic tendencies, and sociopathic tendencies. I do not
call him a narcissist anymore. Okay, here's why. Because there
is power in everything that we say. I don't want to be labeled
for the mistakes I've made in my life. And so in my forgiveness
steps, that is something that you know, we teach in this
program, we encourage you to step away from labeling, even
though sometimes you guys are just trying to explain a
situation. So no one's in trouble for anything they said.
But I'm just using this as a teaching moment. Okay. And I do
understand, like I said, people in the clinical world, they do
get diagnosed as that. I get all that. But if we want to have a
grace extended to us, we don't want people labeling us, I'm
just gonna encourage you guys to step into that freedom, because
it brings a lot of freedom. It really does when you step into
it. But on the coaching, the things I want to point out a
couple, I heard a couple kind of similar themes. So what if I
find the same person? Okay, so somebody that's unhealthy, and I
find the same person? What if I'm never chosen? And I'm gonna
mess it up or miss it? And then how do I know whether or not to
tell the difference if someone's healthy or not? And then love is
scary, y'all, we have a theme going on here tonight. And so
this is
I feel like, you know, the Lord's just really wanting to emphasize this area of fear and
how it's impacting the way we view love, the way we view relationship.
And I want to encourage you that while I chose not good before a couple times, unfortunately,
God taught me through the healing and putting these tools into practice and staying in community.
Y'all, it's key.
It's key.
It's not just about, hey, you know, we want you to be here for us.
This is genuinely being in community and sharing about your process will be a lifeline for
you if you let it, truly.
So I was able to have a different experience because I wasn't doing it just by myself anymore.
And I had a safe place to ask people and I had the tools that I had learned.
So I knew better because I was more healed.
I knew how to like identify, okay, I'm seeing this thing and I'm not going to ignore it
anymore.
I'm just going to, I'm going to pay attention to this.
And if it was real bad, like there was some guy, one guy tried to send me a text saying,
did I want to see his wiener?
Seriously, y'all, this really happened.
And I knew what he meant.
I wasn't dumb.
So I got mad and I'm like, I don't like what you just said.
And then he tried to play it off.
Like that's not what he meant.
And he sent me a dog, a picture of a dog in a little weenie, like a hot dog costume.
I was like, that is not what you meant.
I called him out on it.
Right?
Well, it didn't go great because I called him out on it.
So I knew, okay, yeah, that's unhealthy.
I'm not, I'm not doing that.
Okay.
So you do start to learn.
That's what I'm trying to tell you.
And in the past, you all, I would have been so afraid to say something like that to that
guy and call him out on that.
But even in that, like, as you heal and grow, you're going to gain your voice.
You're going to grow in confidence.
You're going to learn that it's okay for me to say like, Hey, I don't like what you just
said.
You know, and I wasn't being rude about it.
I just was honest.
I was like, Hey, I don't like that text.
You just sent me, you know?
And so you'll learn.
You'll learn how to do that.
So the one thing out of that is just that simple, that simple statement.
You're going to learn.
You can stay in community.
You'll have people to help you.
So if you find the same type of person and, and your loving community and sisters are
saying, Hey, I don't think that guy's good for you.
Hopefully you'll listen to us because we're going to be cheering you on.
We want you to win.
Okay.
So that'll be one thing.
Seriously.
I know that sounds so simple and you probably wanted this big spiritual thing, but it really
is.
It really is being in this community and learning from us and letting us speak into your life.
We really want the best for you on the never chosen or love is scary.
And that dream that you had, I'm going to encourage you all.
If you guys have fears like this, um, as Judy shared in her dream, when she had that
dream, you know, I'm encouraging her to like, okay, ask the Lord, where did this start?
When's the first time you didn't feel chosen by someone that you really wanted to be chosen
by?
Was it on the playground?
Was it in your family?
Was it dating someone?
You know, where, where did that start?
And you're not trying to figure this out yourself.
You're asking the Holy spirit to reveal these areas for healing and you're allowing him
to reveal it.
And then you're asking him what, what's the next part you all, not just to reveal the
thing for healing, but what does that anyone that's further along in the program who can
tell me what's the next step?
What do we need?
In addition to that, you didn't know you were going to get a test, did you?
Can anyone tell me?
I see some people type in some waiting.
Okay.
Healing God's truth.
Yes, yes, yes.
There you go.
All right.
Yes.
We all need healing.
We need the truth to replace the lie.
So we need to ask the Lord, okay, father, the lie is that I'm never chosen because that's
a lie from the pit of hell.
So we can discern that now.
So we need the truth.
The truth comes as the revealing for healing is happening and we're healing from those
situations that originally told us you're not chosen.
Everybody else has chosen, but you, which is not true, but that's the lie.
The enemy led you to believe in whatever painful thing you went through.
So now we can say, okay.
Lord, what's the truth?" We ask the Lord to show us what's the truth, and every one of you might hear
the same thing. You might hear different things. So you're hearing the truth from the Father as
far as what he's speaking over you, but also I'm going to encourage you to go to the Word and look
for truth that stands out to you and really resonates with what God is speaking to you.
And yes, they are kind of one and the same, but sometimes God talks to you differently,
but it should always align with the Word, you all. Okay? Is everyone good? Everyone following me?
Okay. And I will tell you, you know, the fear of intimacy and opening up, if you have fear of
intimacy, I'm going to say that started somewhere, too. So when is the first time you were afraid to
be your true self? Do you all know intimacy is into me? See. Into me. See. When we are intimate with
someone, even if it's a friend, and we're growing in friendship, and we're becoming buds, and we're
sharing our lives, we're opening the door of our heart to those people to come in, right?
So if we have a fear of intimacy, somewhere along the way, we let someone in, and they hurt us,
or they force their way in without permission. Okay? So, and there's probably other scenarios,
but those are the two that are coming up in my mind right now. So be praying into that.
Ask the Lord to reveal, where did this start for me? Know that you don't have to stay there.
You all, we never have to stay in a posture in a place of fear. So tonight, again, that invitation
is for us to come out of there. Okay. So now on that note, I want to shift towards forgiveness.
It's going to be really good to, I hope you guys are getting some freedom. Yeah. Erase and replace.
That's right, Debbie. Erase all the old thinking, the stinking thinking that clouds our minds,
and the fear-filled thoughts, and receive faith. All right. So forgiveness is not a feeling.
It's a choice. Okay. So we all aren't going to feel it. I can promise you there were times I
did not feel like forgiving people, but the word of God says this, Ephesians 4, 32,
Forgive one another just as God forgave you because of what Christ has done.
Colossians 3, 13 says, Remember the Lord forgave you, so you must also forgive others.
Someone shared today, I was talking to them and they were sharing how, and I know some of you
are struggling with this, so that's why I want to share this with you. Interestingly enough,
this woman today was sharing that she had forgiven her ex for hurting her, but she was
struggling to forgive her ex for hurting her son. And she said she was talking with this woman,
this mentor at dinner one night, and that woman started talking about the sacrifice Jesus made,
and everything that he went through on the cross. And she said, even as this woman was
talking to me, I started getting the revelation of, well, wait, Jesus died for me.
Like everything Jesus endured on the cross, he endured it for me. And this is how she's talking
to me. And y'all, we know this to be true, right? Sometimes I think it's so common to us that we
kind of get removed from it. So I want to encourage you right now, just kind of imagine,
I don't want you to, it's not a gruesome thing, but I just want you to, where you're at, I want
you just to close your mind and imagine Jesus. He says on the cross, even at that time, and they're
still mistreating him, and he's on the cross, and he's saying, Father, forgive them, for they don't
know what they're doing. Father, thank you right now. I just thank you for forgiveness. I thank
you for Jesus dying on the cross, shedding his blood for the forgiveness of our sins, for our
freedom, for our healing, for our redemption. I pray right now that anyone that's struggling
with forgiveness, that they would just have a fresh revelation of the forgiveness that you
extended them, and that they didn't have to earn it. They didn't have to perform for it. You just
gave it freely. And it doesn't mean that they, if they, when they step into forgiveness and
choose forgiveness, Father, that that means they forget what has happened, but they choose out of
the fullness of your love and your empowerment of your Holy Spirit enables them to choose. And I
thank you tonight that you'll help them to do that today and in the days ahead.
Jesus name.
So when we, when we don't choose forgiveness, y'all, here's kind
of what it's like.
I need for those of you that have been in, maybe you're in
week five, you might've heard me say this, but it's like a
tether, tether ball game.
And for, for some of you, you may be a little younger.
Have you ever seen a tether ball game?
It's a pole on a playground with a rope and the ball connected to
the rope and that ball never goes away from that pole unless
somebody removes the rope.
Hey, so there's always someone at the end of the day, you know,
that playground person, they go out and they undo all that stuff.
Right.
But here's the deal.
I know that's a simple example, but it's really a good one.
When we don't choose forgiveness, nobody comes and takes that ball
and that rope off that pole.
It stays there and it stays tethered there until we forgive.
And I want to put it to you this way.
Do you want to be tethered to the person that you are
struggling to forgive right now?
Cause that's what's happening.
Some of you want to move forward in your life and you want to
attract someone healthy and new, but you don't want to forgive.
And you have to, in order to move forward, we all, we all, myself
included, we just went through some horrible things here, Christians.
I'm surprised at sometimes what Christians do to each other.
And the Lord just reminds me over and over again, just resist the bitter
root, resist unforgiveness and bitterness and resentment, you know,
bitter roots, they happen in our soul when we don't forgive and that
resentment sits in there and it festers and it becomes a poison to us.
So tonight I want to encourage you, like it's time to let it out.
It's time to let it go.
Again, it's not saying that what they did is okay.
It's not okay, but the Lord will take care of it.
Is it always the way we want him to take care of it?
No, it's not.
But you know what?
His ways are far above our ways.
They are, and he knows the best way to carry these things out.
Okay.
All right.
So tonight you want to forgive all the characters that played a role.
And even when you're working on your forgiveness sheets, some of you guys
aren't going to be in forgiveness week for a little while.
So just remember this, just tuck this away.
You want to forgive all the characters that played a role.
Okay.
You don't need to tell everybody in the breakout, all of the gory details
and I'm not even saying you have to name every person that played a role tonight.
This is regarding the forgiveness prayer worksheet.
Okay.
You want to forgive even yourselves.
Some of you, um, I had someone today on the one o'clock session that's in week
four, but if you guys just go to the website portal, the jackiedorman.com
website portal and go into the start here area, there's actually a section
that says downloads and every sheet, every worksheet for every single week is in that area.
Had a lady today during the one o'clock session that during this forgiveness
piece, had a vision of herself in a dog cage, and that's where she was living life from.
Y'all just let that, let that sit with you for a minute.
She viewed herself inside the cage like a dog.
And there's a lot of us that in some way, shape or form, maybe yours isn't a dog cage.
Maybe I remember years ago, the first time anybody ever did some kind of prophetic thing with me.
I saw myself, I was a mouse and I was cowered down and I was in a cage.
I think it's interesting.
This woman today saw a cage.
I think oftentimes we want free, we want to be free, but we don't know how.
And so some of us just start giving up, but freedom is going to be one of the keys that
unlocks your door and, and y'all, for some of you, what I want to say is Jesus already
came and he already unlocked the door for you and he's going to unlock the door for you.
As Jesus already came and he already unlocked the door, but you're convinced that door is
closed and you can't come out, but it's already open.
It's wide open.
And I'll even go as far as to say, there are no walls on that cage.
It's not even there, but because of things.
been through and there's no shame in this you all it's just reality because of what you've been
through you believe and perceive that that cage is there and tonight i'm going to encourage you
to pray and ask the lord to show you if there is any mindsets any heart postures any way that you're
currently living your life that that's really internally how you view yourself that he will
show that to you because he doesn't want you to stay there okay all right here's your question
for your breakout who do you need to forgive tonight and why some of you that were here at
one o'clock today you can share the same thing it doesn't matter you can share something different
because god might have brought somebody different to your mind tonight but i want to encourage you
to still share and engage in the group okay i'm going to get you ready remember that we're all
safe here what you share in these breakouts stays in the breakouts you all just want to remind you
of that okay and you don't need to feel shame or any of that stuff we've all made mistakes here you
go praying for you all bless you
all right keep clicking to join
okay perfect
perfect all right she keeps getting stuck with people let's see her
make sure she moves down to that next okay cool
y'all get to hear me talk to myself while i make sure people are with people
cool all right
and then i'm gonna pray here in just a minute i just got to make sure these last couple rooms
everybody's good
all right i think i've got everyone situated now oh
there we go
all right father just thank you so much for everything you're doing tonight thanks for
sending your son jesus jesus thank you for coming holy spirit we thank you for also coming when
jesus ascended into heaven that you're here that you're our comforter you're our counselor you're
our guide you know and you know us better than we know ourselves i pray that you would just
continue to help us to hear what your spirit is saying tonight to us i thank you that your
word declares that you heal the wounds of every shattered heart you set you set your stars in
place calling them all by name you call us by name as well thank you that there's never a tear
that we have cried that you haven't kept in a bottle to pour out like choice oil upon our hearts
our lives our spirits our souls and i thank you god that you're working in the midst of all the
pain and the heartache that we've experienced now thank you god that you're going to create
a beautiful tapestry out of it thank you that you are the potter and we are the clay
and we can trust you to create that masterpiece that you are at work in us and through us every
single day i thank you that you're going to continue to refine us like with the refiners
fire that because out of your great love you don't want us to stay uh in a place where we have chaff
and we have things that hold us back and that keep us from living an abundant and full life
as jackie talks about the good good life
yes lord i thank you that you're going to help us to continue to
uh i just saw an image of like kids on christmas day like all the presents and that were wrapped
and prepared ahead of time god i thank you for the surprises and the gifts that you have prepared
ahead of time for all of us i thank you that you'll help us to shift out of believing that you
bring harm to us because that's not truth your word declares that you come uh you came to give
us life jesus came to give us life and give it to us more abundantly but also that you have plans
to prosper us to give us a hope and a future and i thank you god that you'll help us to step into
the truth that you are good
All the time. There's that song that's just resonating in my spirit right now
I'm not gonna sing it to y'all
But it says you are good all the time and all the time you are good
You are good all the time and just sings the same thing all over but it's a very joy
filled song
So I would encourage you all to look that up and just let that really marinate in your spirit that he is good all
The time April did you get kicked out?
I
Can't hear you
I apologize. Oh, it's okay. I don't stop and they have done kicked off the room. Oh, that's okay. You are totally fine
I'm gonna let's see. They have like three minutes left. I don't know if it put you in a room or not
I'm gonna look real quick
I'll put you in with them. That way you can chat for a few minutes. We're just talking about who we need to forgive
Okay. Thanks. All right, you're welcome
Ephesians 3 17 through 19 says then Christ will make his home in your hearts as you trust in him
Your roots will grow down into God's love and keep you strong
And may you have the power to understand as all God's people should how wide how long how high?
How deep his love is may you experience the love of Christ?
Though it is too great to understand fully
Then you will be made complete with all the fullness of life and power that comes from God
I want to point out there that's that part of the scripture that says your roots grow down into God's love
And keep you strong. So we're just thank you right now that our roots would continue to grow deeper into your love tonight
That you it's like the tree planted by rivers of living water
That we will it never withers it never faints no matter what the pressure
No matter the weather or the elements because it's planted by the water the living water that I was talking about earlier
So Lord, I thank you that we would live our lives in such a way that it would be as if we are trees
planted by living water
Ephesians 3 20 and 21 says never doubt God's mighty power to work in you and
Accomplish all of this. He will achieve infinitely more than your greatest
request your most
Unbelievable dream and exceed your wildest imagination. He will all do them all for his miraculous power
constantly
energizes you I don't know about you all but I
Need some energy sometimes and I remember tonight even about an hour before the session
I've been trying to get away from this is such a small thing
But I'm gonna share it with you because I think it's can be relevant, too
Um, I've been trying to get away from drinking more than two cups of coffee a day
And I was doing really good there for a while and then life got really crazy and I started slowly
Going back to that third cup of coffee, but then I haven't been sleeping as well
And
So I decided this morning I was gonna not have that third cup of coffee
But about an hour before our session I was feeling kind of sleepy and I remember praying and saying to the Lord
Lord, I need your strength
Remind me that it's about you being strong that I don't have to be strong tonight
You can be strong in me and work through me. So I just want to say to you guys that last scripture there
He says he will outdo them all for his miraculous power
Constantly
Energizes you and so I just feel like that was a confirmation of what I prayed but for whoever that's for maybe you're feeling weak
In your body physically, maybe you're wondering if you can do whatever it is
God is leading you to do maybe even to do this course. I've had several people really feeling
Overwhelmed and fatigued as soon as they started a lot of distractions have come busyness at work
And so Lord we just pause right now and we thank you for energy. We thank you for focus. We thank you for the ability
That again the same power that rose Jesus Christ from the dead is living on if we've accepted Jesus as our Savior that power
Is living in us and it's operating through us and it can undo us with that power to accomplish
That which we set our hands to do. So Lord, I thank you that you're giving us the power and the ability
To step into the fullness of your plans and promises and everything that you call us to do
So help us Lord to receive your energy from heaven to be filled up with your presence at all times
y'all I was just chatting and praying and and
And if you guys want, you know, you don't have to but you might want to check out what came out during those breakouts
Uh just in the spirit as I'm talking sometimes I'm sharing stories
But um
There's some stuff that comes up in the holy spirit there as well marissa, you know what I just totally closed my story
So I'm gonna close my story and I'll see you guys next week. Bye
It was from the book. I don't know what chapter, but it might have been Passion Translation. I'm not sure. I'm so sorry.
She uses all different versions in there, but it was good, wasn't it? So good. All right. Who is willing to share? We only have time for a couple.
I've gone over the – I wasn't here with you all last week, but a couple weeks ago, I went over way too long. We're not going to do that tonight.
So I have time for sure for one. Carrie, awesome. Go ahead. And Sarah, I might have time, so hang there, okay? All right, Carrie, go ahead.
I want to share that I need to forgive someone I was in a relationship with before. He was very – he took advantage of me, of my kindness a lot.
And, you know, he would – on a few occasions, you know, I would – he would ask to borrow money, and, you know, I would give it to him out of the kindness of my heart.
And, you know, he would always just promise to pay me back, pay me back. And I knew – like something in me knew that it was wrong, but I just wanted to – I knew that, you know, I was just taking his word for it that he would do it.
And, you know, as a friend, I said, okay, I'll give it to you this time. But then it just kept happening. And so I need to forgive him because I felt – I was so taken advantage of.
And I also – in the group chat, I was saying I also need to forgive myself for feeling so naive and, like, I would say, how could you – how could I be so dumb, so stupid to do – let him do that when I knew better? I knew better. I knew better. I knew better.
That's what I wanted to share, just forgiving myself and forgiving him completely. And so that doesn't carry over into another relationship where I expect that to happen or I look for that to happen again.
Yes, so good. And I'm so glad that you also see the side of forgiving yourself. It's going to be powerful. Now, here's the thing, and I'm not going to share long. Sarah, I'm going to come to you.
Anybody, if you guys have ever – I've done it too, okay, so I relate to you when you say – when you're kind of beating yourself up, how could I be so dumb to fall for that again or whatever.
I really want to encourage you all, typically when we allow ourselves to be overextended, when we keep giving and we keep giving and we keep giving, even though somebody's mistreating us, y'all, that typically starts somewhere before that moment, okay?
So maybe as a kid, we didn't learn how to set healthy boundaries because no one really taught us. It could be as a kid, people imposed themselves on us in some kind of way, and so there were never any such thing as boundaries, right?
There's a lot of different reasons, and maybe it could be because, you know, sometimes even, like, really good upbringing, you know, with our parents, our parents were taught, like, you don't say no to adults or you don't say no in the – you know what I mean? Like, we're taught to just be giving, and I'm not saying that's bad, but any gift overextended is when it becomes a weakness to us, okay?
And so just be – anybody that can relate to Carrie, you know, or even Carrie, just kind of ask the Lord, where did this start for me? Because I'm going to venture to say, while it might not be the same kind of scenarios, that there's probably other people that take advantage of you, okay?
And I don't know if that's true or not, Carrie, for you, but typically people that have one kind of scenario like that where it's happening over and over, there's probably someone else, at least one other person that's also in their sphere that's taking advantage because that's what starts to happen. You have a giver, and they just attract takers. They attract takers.
So until you learn as a giver, you get healthy, and you kind of bring that back into balance, because that's how it was. People just take, take, take, take, take. And so now I still have to practice this. I have to be really good at setting boundaries where people can't just come and take from me all the time, okay?
And that's not just financial, y'all. People will try to take time, and even when I say, hey, I'm really busy. I can't talk right now, and they'll just keep pushing. Y'all, that's for some of you. Some of you, that happens to you, and the Lord wants to encourage you tonight. It's okay to say, I'm not going to respond to that text, and you're not doing it to be mean. You're actually doing it to care for yourself really well.
Okay. All right, Sarah. I lost you there. Okay. Yeah, I put my hand down because mine was about forgiving myself
I I had done like week fours
forgiveness of everybody else and their mama and everybody and and God's like
Reminding me tapping me on the shoulder later in the week. Like hey, you forgot to forgive yourself and I'm like God
Where do I begin? I have a full list of records of wrongs. Like I'm very hard on my
Like unrealistic standards even some, you know self-hatred mixed in, you know sprinkle on top
but like it's like I don't even know where to begin to forgive myself because there's a lot of like
Like I have a whole history and like I don't have a history of forgiving myself or giving myself a lot of grace
I'm kind of learning to break up with perfectionism
so
Also learning some self-compassion as well, but it's like it's not a muscle. That's very strong just yet
So in a lot of a lot of women you all cannot tell you how many times women do not forgive themselves
So I want to encourage you Sarah or anyone that this applies to
When you don't know where to begin to forgive yourself again, remember this is why we ask the Holy Spirit
Okay, Holy Spirit
Father Jesus Christ, however, you want to pray
Show me what I need to forgive myself for first and
start there and
Then let him continue to guide that process because he'll show you the stuff that's really keeping you hung up. Okay, and
The being great the grace filled and kindness
I'm gonna encourage you to really practice that
So, you know, maybe it's doing a kind of thing like buying yourself a gift
You know when you wouldn't normally because you're typically maybe harder and you have to achieve some kind of level of whatever
I'm just kind of making that up but like, you know, really ask the Lord even for that you guys
He'll tell us all kinds of stuff. He's so fun
God is fun. He's a good dad and he'll he'll if you say God like I
Don't really I'm so hard on myself all the time. Like what can I do to show myself more grace?
Guess what he'll come and he'll whisper and he'll say something
He'll whisper something to you and some of you all are so used to dismissing stuff that you just don't know. It's him
yet
Yet you guys get comfortable with the word yet. Okay
Seneca and then I'm gonna close us down for the night after this
Hello
So for me I
The challenge I am having is that I
know I need to forgive my ex and
I think I did
but every now and again, I will
see a make of the car that he drives and
Everything just comes back all over again
so it may be fine for probably two months and then I see a car that looks like his and
I've done the work where I've tried to I've reached out to him and to
Just express how I felt but there's no great level of remorse or even
Acknowledging. Well, he does acknowledge. Yeah, there was something off or did something wrong, but he explains it away
So I am having difficulties even though I will say in my heart I have forgiven
Him, but then I don't think I'm being honest. I
Because I'm still I'm not sure if this is right or wrong. I'm still in week three. I've not there yet, but
But I'm still trying to figure out what is it
That I need to do to actually complete that forgiveness
Yeah, this is great. Okay, so this is a really great question. They're all great tonight
Y'all all the shares are great. This is a really good one to end forgiveness on
So here's two things without me talking for a long time
the first thought is that you all forgiveness is in layers and
we forgive what we know at that time and then sometimes we heal a little bit more and
Then we get revelation on something else. We need to forgive. Okay
The other thing that I want to say and I don't and I meant to ask you is Sanica Sanica how you say your name
No, it's Seneca
Did anyone else ever hurt you in a similar way that this gentleman did oh, yes
Okay
Here's the reason I'm asking you all
sometimes
the current
thing that you're hung up on. It is about that situation, but it's also, you're struggling
to overcome here because down here, it's connecting over here. Does that make sense everyone?
So I'm going to give you an example. When I went through the betrayals in that relationship
I was in, when he cheated on me and all that stuff, some of you guys have never heard that
story, but some of you have been here long enough to hear it. When I found all that out,
the depth of pain that I felt, it was kind of like, okay, I know this is about this,
but man, this feels big. This feels real big. And when I started asking the Lord about it,
all of the stuff from my dad cheating on my mom, he left our family. He left our family
and he got another family. It was like, and I don't even know why I didn't automatically
connect those dots, but that was like that, that wound over here, I was struggling. I
was struggling. It was so deep. And so there's different dynamics that can kind of show you
that it's linking to another pain and wound that also still needs healing. So I would encourage
you Seneca, other people that hurt you similar to this guy, I would encourage you to do forgiveness
sheets on this guy and those people in those situations as well and see, even if you've done
it before, again, you're where you are today now with the information you have. And so that's
different than when you perched it before. So let's, let's do that. And let's see if this time
it enables you to completely break free because you're healing from all the things that are kind
of in your soul and spirit, they're kind of linked together. Is everyone following me?
Okay. I want to make sure I'm not losing anybody. Okay. So let us know after you do that,
I would love for you to do a post in the group and tell us how it's going.
Okay. And you might not, just so you know, sometimes we experience this big release and we
feel it. And sometimes we just forgive you all and we feel nothing. So I just want to let some of you
guys know, you're not going to feel something in that moment. You might not, but that doesn't mean
it's not effective and others of you, you're going to have some kind of breakthrough. You're going to
feel it, all the things, but don't be discouraged. And when other people are sharing about their
experience, please do not fall into comparing. That's the trap of the enemy to get you guys to
compare each other to, you know, and feel like, well, this is happening for them. Something must
be wrong. Maybe I'm, I must not be doing this good enough. You know, the enemy will even try
to tell you you're not doing hard work good enough. You just got to resist that stuff. I know
it's not easy, but you're doing great. I've been so blessed by all the things you guys are sharing.
I'm going to pray and close this out. We look forward to hearing. I'm sorry, Bethany. I'm sorry.
You said I should share. Can you just go over again? What exactly do you want me to share?
After you've done your forgiveness prayer sheet for this, the gentleman that the original scenario
came up for, as well as anybody else that is similar, that hurt you in a similar way. I just
mean, and it doesn't have to be even right away this week, but after you've taken time to process
that, that you'll come back and share in the group. How God used that in you. Like how, how are
you doing? You know, cause I want to make sure that you continue to move forward. So even if you've,
you've done it and you feel nothing, I would want you to come share that. Does that make sense?
Yes. Okay. Understood. Thank you. Okay. You're welcome. Okay. I have time for one question,
Carissa. Go ahead. I'll try to make it really quick. Oh, this is my first session. Yeah. I
literally just started the program on Friday or Saturday. If there are things that are spoke about
in groups like this, are there places that we can process or at, like, if you talk about something
and then I have a question about it, how do, where can I go to process that or
ask more about that subject you were talking about? Yeah. So in our Facebook group, so that's
where you guys are going to do your post. So we do the weekly roll call. So you can post on that,
or you can create your own post and our team or myself will coach you on that. But that's why we
do these live sessions too, because then you can, you can.
and share, you can get more coaching. When you're with us
live, we have the one o'clock on Mondays, we have eight o'clock
on Monday, 8pm on Mondays. But right now, that's kind of the
framework that you're going to be in to get to process and to
work through that stuff. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And some of
it to you all just be really good at journaling. Even if you
don't love to journal you all, it's going to be really
important to do that. Yeah. And welcome. I don't know if we saw
you earlier. So welcome for your first time. All right. Great
question, by the way, if anybody else was wondering that it
really will bring you breakthrough more than you
realize, it really will. We've been doing this for a while you
all and people get breakthrough all the time. You can go in
that Facebook group anytime to share if you're not already in
there, Joanne, we've been hunting some of you down
lovingly trying to find you. And so you probably have emails from
Renee Rizzo on our team trying to get you to the Facebook
group. So look for those in your email. Renee. It's at Jane media,
I think. All right. Okay, let me pray. Father, thank you so much
for your amazing grace. Thanks for doing all of the good things
that you're doing in our lives. I thank you for breakthrough
that's happening. That's already taken place as well as that's
going to come in this next week. You know, every every woman in
the week that they're in, you know, the the place that they're
at in the course, the things that they're still struggling
with the things that they're getting breakthrough in. Lord, I
thank you that you would help us to celebrate the wins just as
much as we acknowledge the hard parts of hard work. And I thank
you, Lord. Yes, Lord, as a reminder that we talked tonight
about fear. But the reminder also that where the spirit of
the Lord is, there is liberty and freedom. So we thank you for
liberty. We thank you for freedom and the Holy Ghost. We
thank you that the power that rose Jesus from the dead is
living in us. If we've accepted him as Jesus Christ is our
Savior, he's living in us that powers living in us, and can
enable us to do all things that we never walk in this life
alone. And that you're doing an amazing work in our lives that
you've gone before us. And you're going to enable us to to
every single day, take another step closer towards your
promises, towards the spirit mate that you have for us, and
the fullness of every beautiful plan that's unfolding in our
lives. In Jesus name. Amen. God bless you all. And I will see
you guys in the group. Have a good night.