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Right, right. Good to see everybody. How's it going? How you doing? Welcome to our new

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extended version. So I hope you're in for the long haul. Got your coffee or whatever

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other thing you need. Okay, yeah, very cool. Yeah, so let's jump right in and get going.

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I know a lot of people are still jumping on. So hey, Ben, how you doing? Good to see you,

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Matthew and Emily. Robin, good to see you. Hey, Glenn. And Lee, welcome. And of course,

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Bridget and Dia helping me host. Very good. Matthew, do you have two logins?

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Luke is not with me here. So he was going to jump in from his place. Is that okay? Yep.

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Very cool. Very cool. Well, we'll give Yeah. Oh, you like the lead in Robin? Yep. Yep.

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You haven't been on some of the calls for a while. It's been a feature for for a bit.

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So we missed you. That's great that you liked it. Yeah, we're trying to be a little more

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people know they've come to the right spot and feel a little more welcoming. Take a minute

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to catch up. Well, what so welcome to the new the new mode of operation. You know, normally

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we'll, you know, we'll wait for a few more people to jump on. So we can nobody misses

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the announcements. So let's take a second while we're doing that. And just here in the

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last month, what's been going on in your business? And what's the Lord been teaching you? So

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anybody wants to go first? I know, I've had conversations with at least four of you. So

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hey, Robin, you go? Yeah, we are. We are transitioning from me being running the company

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Noah to rich doing that. And he's taken the reins dramatically. So we've, we've had a

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lot of people that are in our organization that are behind that and supporting that.

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And we're struggling a little bit with our revenue. Because of that, because of the new,

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instead of a 10, just a 10x, we're going, we're trying to get a brand new business started.

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And then me personally, I'm, I just built, I just finished the house. I'm in right now,

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you can't see it, because I've got this background. But I just built a little model

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home 864 square feet out of pocket, just to show people what they can do for I did, I did

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this house for $50,000, which is unheard of. But I'm looking to maybe roll this out as a

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possibility for renters that want to become homeowners to be able to do exactly what I've

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done here. So that's what I've been up to. Well, the last section.

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Yeah, that's amazing, Robin. That's so great. Yeah, that's a lot of that's a lot of transition,

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a lot of change. So yeah, that's going to be the topic. Yeah, Matthew, you want to go next?

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Sure. I was just when you asked what had been going on, I was I was laughing just because I

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thought, man, I don't I can't take up all three hours. But no, just real quick. The beautiful

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thing is, since you and I had our, our, we had a brilliant SOS call. And that was absolutely

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magnificent. Right after all of those things took place, I've been I've been in really a real

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space kind of moment. Things got really tight. But what was fantastic is for the first time

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of my entire life. And I got to share this with some people. I've been at rest the entire time,

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just trusting and knowing that whatever's going on, God is going to work for our good and for

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the good of what he's called me to do. And now I reached out to Todd today, and and have brought

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my CFO, and my creative director, everybody's come back together, and we're going to get rolling.

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And incorporating the company is going to get set up with with Todd and his group. And then

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we actually started filming content yesterday, for the first time to the channel. So

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there you go. That was a big change for you. So yeah, so if I can ask the team, if you guys can

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spotlight people who are speaking, so it's not just stuck in the gallery, that'd be great. Yeah,

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let's go to Ray. While Ray's coming up, I know I've done about four, I think four SOS calls

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since we since this month, just remember, you get two of those anyway. So if you just like,

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hey, man, we just need to talk.

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book. You know, we need to lock down. I actually got to do Ray

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with you in person, which was amazing. I got to actually meet

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you. So yeah, tell us what's going on. I know there's a lot

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going on, but tell the group.

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Well, we got you muted somehow.

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Now we got Ray's audio.

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I can hear Ray. I think we're I think we're good.

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We're good. I can hear Ray.

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I cannot hear Ray. That's interesting. Ray, speak, I'll

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read your lips. I don't know why I can't hear you. Can you guys

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hear me? All right.

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Yeah, we can hear you.

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Now we can now I think

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you're good.

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I'm gonna have to stop you. I really cannot hear what you're

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saying. So sorry, man. Sorry, my friend. Let's get this sorted

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first, because I definitely want to hear what what you're doing.

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I've clicked on every can somebody else jump on Ben's

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Can you hear me?

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I can hear you fine. Somebody else.

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Can you hear Robin?

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So strange. Yeah, it's just Ray.

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That's so funny. You can also try captioning if that does it

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fast enough for you. I mean, remove the spotlight for him,

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and then I'll put it back on.

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Okay, let's try it again. Right back in. Okay. All right. Good

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stuff going on in your life. I don't want to miss what you're

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saying. Okay, Ray, you want to try one more time?

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Maybe for me. So everybody can hear him. But Deon, that's the

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crazy part. Yeah, that is. Let me let me see if I can

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try taking him off spotlight.

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I took him off and put him back on. I'll take him off

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altogether. Take him off. Yeah. Okay. All right. Try again. Go

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ahead. Deon, got anything? No, maybe take

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Deon off the spotlight. Who knows? Yeah, take me off the

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spotlight that I've never seen that before. So there you go. A

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little bit of family fun while we're trying to get this

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conversation going. Let's try one more time. Deon, anything?

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No, go ahead. I'm reading your captions. I'll catch what you're

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saying. Ray, go ahead. I don't want to hold you up.

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Yeah, good to meet you, too.

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Wow.

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Wow.

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Yeah, that's so great.

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Thanks for sharing.

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I got to read everything you said, so that was fantastic.

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And I know you shared a great deal of that with us, with me anyway.

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And what I appreciate is the journey that the Lord has you on.

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And it's interesting you brought up that topic, because that's part of what we're going to

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talk about today.

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What do we deal with these struggles that never seem to end?

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It seems like every Christian business person, every kingdom executive goes through this

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challenge, this process.

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And it's really interesting as to what happens.

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And I also want to chat a bit about brokenness, because there's a healthy brokenness and there's

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an unhealthy brokenness in the kingdom, and definitely appreciate you raising that.

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So thanks very much.

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I definitely appreciate you bringing that up.

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All right.

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Well, let's go to Ben, Ben Cormack.

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Hello, guys.

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It's great to see you, man.

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I'm fired up.

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That's an awesome testimony, Ray.

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So good.

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And it's been an interesting month.

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I'm thankful for the opportunity to connect with Dion in the, I don't remember what you

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call those calls exactly, but it was right on time for me.

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So in a family-owned construction company, thank you, Dion, the SOS call.

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My dad, it really became clear to me about, it's been about a month ago now that it was,

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the time for my dad's retirement had arrived.

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He wasn't necessarily on board with that fully.

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He was reluctant to accept that truth, I would say.

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So it'd kind of been hanging on for a while.

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And really the Lord showed me that obedience isn't an option, really.

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If it's like, if I'm disobedient in stepping out in faith and trusting him, something he

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showed me, that it's actually evil, that he's not all right with it.

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So it's really been an opportunity, a season for me to trust him and in new ways.

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So we've embarked on this adventure of completely rearranging our company and people are, we've

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got the right people on the bus, but we're taking new seats.

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So I've shifted and really this plan to reorganize the company didn't come until I was obedient

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to have a really tough conversation with my dad, to lay out kind of where we're going.

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But as soon as I did, man, the grace of God showed up and I've been walking in it.

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It's just so awesome to see how he's totally before us and he's, I mean, he's working on

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our behalf all the time and I see it almost hourly, it seems like.

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And there's lots going on, in the middle of this whole transition, we've been, I lost

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an accountant that has been with us for nine years.

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She had a life change and needed to transition out.

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So I've been operating our company.

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We used to have this precision set of books and for the last six months, I'm somewhat

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blind.

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You know, we're in the process of onboarding a new option there, but I guess I bring that

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in to say there's probably three or four different areas that were really solid.

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I knew where we were going, what I was doing and he's, you know, those things aren't where

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they were in the past and I've learning and getting the opportunity to learn what it means

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to really trust him, kind of moment by moment, be led by him and just to stay in his grace.

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It's been fun, really is exciting to me about what's possible moving forward as I learn

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to walk in that, you know, in just a more tangible way.

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Wow, thanks.

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Well, you know what I loved about that conversation, Ben, was we talked a lot about the assumption

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that's holding us back.

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There's an assumption about the Lord, usually that's holding us back.

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And you know, a lot of our times together here on these calls is to get through, find

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assumption. And the Lord sets us free, you know, with those assumptions. And the assumption was,

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you know, well, you know, I know your dad was a big portion of the sales. So that was a big

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consideration. It wasn't just the toughness of, hey, it's my dad, and he's the founder.

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But also to take the business, what's next. And the assumption also is, oh, we're always looking

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from our viewpoint. But what what, you know, it sets your dad free into what the Lord has next

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for him. It's not always, it doesn't always have to be as negative as it seems, you know,

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the Lord turns that. And so you have the advantage, your dad knows the Lord. So that helps.

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So quick update on that. You know, we're on pace for exceeding our sales last year right now. I

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mean, we've had some, some awesome projects that have landed and have come in. So man, revenue is

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taken care of, it appears. And I mean, we're in a really good place. And now we're watching,

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you know, I'm watching as, you know, people who are really, I think, even more equipped to excel

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in their new positions are taking their place. And then so that's pretty exciting. One of those

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assumptions that man, he exposed in me, one of these beliefs that I was carrying was that,

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man, I was the provider for, you know, these people, and I was afraid of letting them down,

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which kind of paralyzed me from taking the action that I needed to, because I didn't,

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you know, there are a lot of people counting on that revenue. And, you know, the Lord just really

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showed me or reminded me that he's my provider, and he's theirs. So then I just released that.

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It's been fun. We'll see where it goes. Yeah, no, thanks for sharing. Let's bring Mark,

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and then we'll jump straight in. Mark, what's how's it going with the roof with the pallet business?

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Yeah, yeah. Interesting, to say the least. I think last month I had talked about, I had just

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brought on or let go of an operations manager, a friend of 10 years and 11 years. I mean,

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I've known him a lot longer than that, probably close to 20. But he's been operating as our,

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he's been working as our operations supervisor for operations manager, it's a better term,

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for like the last 10 years. And I brought in someone new. And, and try to keep this short.

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The employees, it was probably about day five or six of the new operations manager. And

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our office administrator came to me, she said, employees would like to talk to you. I had just

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been stopping through. I don't, I'm not always at the business, probably maybe once a week type

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deal that I'll show up there. And as soon as I showed up there, they're like, she pulled me to

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the side and say, hey, the employees would like to talk to you. And it was right around lunchtime

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for them. And I said, sure, sure. Let's do it. Do it right now. Let's go, you know, table one.

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Anyway, everybody kind of gathered around. And they basically said, hey, either this guy gets

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goes, or we go, we're not going to come back from lunch. 35 employees. This is a first for me. I'm

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like, Whoa, okay, Lord, what's going on here? So I really didn't have a lot of options. I went back

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to the, the operations manager I had hired. And I said, well, basically, unless you've got 20

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employees in your back pocket somewhere, this business is not gonna run. And then we're gonna,

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you know, yeah, I'm gonna have to let you go. And I'm leaving a lot out here. But the basically,

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they said, as a group, and a lot of them are Hispanic, they said, hey, we're loyal to you.

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We'll, we'll work for you, we'll make this work. But if that's who you want us to work for, you

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know, the new operations manager, we're not going to work here, we're gonna go find other jobs.

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And so, I don't know, it was just an interesting thing that the Lord showed. I mean, it just like,

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it showed them that I was in a way, I mean, in hindsight, I could see that it showed them that

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I was loyal to them. And, and also the same that they were loyal to me.

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And they've kind of taken the ball and run with basically, we had two

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longer term employees that have kind of jumped up. And I'm kind of like, I don't know what's

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going on. But it's working. And I still, I still don't know what the long term answer is yet. I'm

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still working through that with the Lord. But

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Yeah, I don't know how to answer that.

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Well, you're raising so many great points and so I would, you know, I'm very tempted

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to jump into some of them but maybe just to say that in general raising up your own leaders

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from within, even if they don't quite have the qualifications or the history or the resume,

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they know the business and they know you and the team knows them and the customers know

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them.

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There's a tremendous amount to be said for that.

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And I've made the mistake of hiring the superstar, you know, who is just, you know, fantastic

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Harvard MBA, worked for Goldman Sachs, blah, blah, all the credentials in my world, which

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were incredibly impressive and had the same response.

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Not mutiny from employees, but question burned.

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But you know, what's lovely about that is, you know, it sounds like you learned where

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they're at as a team.

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And I think it probably looks like the Lord used it to bring you even closer together

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with them.

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Yeah, I mean, I had tears in my eyes when they were talking to me, I was like, I couldn't

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I was trying to hold back tears and they're like, yeah, we'll work for you.

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We like you.

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We'll do whatever it takes for you.

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Yeah, it's definitely worth getting an exit interview with them.

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I think the gift you can give them is the feedback, even if it's tough.

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If that was an issue, it won't just be your team.

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So the gift we give them is call them, call them out and call them up and let them go.

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I know we have to release people, you know, and there's a whole time where I want to do

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a whole session just on how do we, you know, hire people?

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What's the Kingdom approach?

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How do we release people?

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What's the King approach to that?

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And several of you over the last few months have had to let close friends go or people

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have been there a long time or, you know, in Ben's case, his dad, the founder, you know,

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that there's there's a limitation that these people bring.

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Anyone weighing on that?

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Anybody else going through what Mark or Ben, what Ray or Matthew is going through?

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So let me see that.

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I just wanted to let Mark know that, first of all, kudos to you that your employees felt

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comfortable enough to come up and say, hey, it's either he goes or we go.

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I mean, that's that's a big plus that you have built that in.

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But it also tells me a lot about cultural fit.

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don't fit your culture of your organization.

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You know, the whole thing about building a Kingdom culture, even if nobody in your team

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knows the Lord, there is a Kingdom culture brings goodness and kindness to them.

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soft culture and it isn't.

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It's a highly productive culture.

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And today we're going to focus just on the tag end of Matthew 11, 28, which has been

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our key verse for a while.

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heard that verse.

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It's not a question.

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Have you heard it or even learned it?

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Have you become Matthew 11, 28?

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So when Jesus said, come to me, all weary and heavy laden, I'm sure you can all quote

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it by now.

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That means that he says, and come to me and I and I will give you rest.

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In other words, everything in the Kingdom starts with rest.

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And you say, why?

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So let's map that from an upstairs idea to a downstairs idea, because when you're when

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you're at rest, your mind is most alert.

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When you're quiet in your heart, you can think the clearest.

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It ignites your skills, your abilities and your ability to hear him.

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It ignites every all your downstairs faculties going to hyper drive in rest.

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And so the enemy tries to keep you worried and heavy laden or what we would call stressed

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and anxious, because that is a crippling effect on your downstairs faculties, your upstairs

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faculties, when you set up rest and peace, something very special happens.

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And so one of the things I want to talk about is this map.

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And we've talked a lot about don't be a triangle, don't be all upstairs, this triangle, right?

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be a good square. That means we take what we learn upstairs and we map it directly.

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And I think many of us are not used to taking the scriptures and mapping them very clearly

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into the downstairs. So for instance, as we continue with that verse, take my yoke, take

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my partnership. And he says, and learn from me. So that's why, of course, where we get

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our direct learning component. And then he says, fine, gentle and humble. Why does he

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bring that up? Because gentle and humility is the fast track to learning. When you're

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gentle and you're humble, right? What Mark just demonstrated a few minutes ago was his

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humility with his employees, right? Because it's hard to go and say, I made a mistake.

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Was it a good person, but maybe just a bad cultural fit? You know, whatever the reason

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might be, might be, you know, not that the employee or the manager was bad. But in this

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case, that humility puts you in a high learning mode and gentleness puts you in a high learning

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mode. When we become obnoxious or stubborn about a position, the Bible refers to this

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as being a fool. You know, and there's this weird thing in the scripture about dealing

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with a fool. And it's fully such a strong word in modern language, right? We don't like

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that word anymore. It sounds so judgmental. But what the Bible is talking about is don't

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answer a fool according to his folly, or you'll become just like him. And so and sorry, don't

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I or he will. So I got these two wrong, because they're direct contradiction. And I think

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they're one verse after the other one says, answer a fool, according to his folly. So

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that, you know, if you answer a fool, according to his folly, he will become more deluded,

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if you but so don't answer a fool, according to his folly, or you'll become just like him.

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So what do we do? We do answer him, we don't answer him. It's literally a contradiction.

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And the bottom line is, you can't deal with a fool. Why? What is fool? Fool isn't an intellectual

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thing. Bonhoeffer called this the theory of stupidity. And what the theory of stupidity

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is, and we see this a lot when it's cloaked with Scripture. And that is, we get into a

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position where we get so locked into a view of thinking that we can't hear anything else.

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And when we can't consider anything else, and the beauty of humility and gentleness

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is that puts us right in the Father's heart, and it just does away with all those threats.

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We can call them our echo chambers, modern language, we all sit in our echo chambers,

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and they become so reinforced through the algorithms and so on, on social media, keep

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us on the platform, that what happens is, we get so entrenched. Well, we can do this

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spiritually as well. The Lord speaks to us, and then we get entrenched about a particular

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point of view, about a person we should hire, about a business we should open, about a strategy

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we should take on. And so learning from Jesus out of that partnership means this humility,

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and it means gentleness. And the humility includes going to others and saying, I'm hearing

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this from the Lord, what do you think? And having the humility to hear whatever it is

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they may say next. And then He goes on, and He says, you will find rest for your soul.

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Your whole inner being, soul, comes to a place of permanent rest. Not just rest as a bit

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of reprieve from stress, but permanent rest. A place of abiding. Abiding in rest, because

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everything in the kingdom starts in rest. Because it's in rest, you can see the gifts

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God's giving you. In the rest, you can hear His voice. In the rest, you're igniting all

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your faculties, and all your training, and all your thinking, including your business

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training and your leadership training and everything else. And then that last verse,

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verse 30, and it says, for my yoke, my partnership is easy. We've explored that, that it's effective

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and delightful. You're highly effective, you're highly, that's how it is. There's a lightness

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to kingdom leadership. But here I want to break out the very last phrase, and my burden

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is light. Now that word light is only used twice in the Bible, in the New Testament Greek

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word. And it literally means, there is an element of lightness, but it's also agile

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and quick. There's a, I get very agile and quick and fast, and I get to pivot quickly.

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You can't pivot quickly when you're stubborn. You can't pivot quickly when you've decided

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to lock something in, because you've decided you know how it is. And many of you, how many

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of you have done six hats training? I think most of you have gone through six hats, if

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I use that language, you know what I'm talking about. So Edward de Bono, six hats, six colored

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hats, right. So the red hat, which is your intuition hat, there are six modes of thinking

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that de Bono...

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I think it's on the app, six modes of thinking.

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that's your intuition mode. That's my experience.

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I've been doing this for 30 years. I know how this works.

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I know what I'm doing. This should be the outcome.

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Those are some of the actually brilliant.

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If you really want to make the team

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laugh, just say my experience tells me and then everybody knows you're 95% wrong.

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You know, I mean, it's just because it never is that.

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Why? Because so, you know,

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white hat data is the facts, you know, what actually happens.

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The Lord in his kindness will quickly help you find the assumption you've made.

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you take bold action from that assumption, something releases, you know,

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has been, you know, in your story, you had to face a very tough assumption.

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I can't make this change because whatever, fill in the blank.

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And once you got past that assumption, I think was in 24, 48 hours,

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the Lord just just seemed to download to you really rapidly.

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Yeah. So, you know, I don't know what to do.

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I'm sitting on it. What would be the strategy of the plan?

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I'd make I'd take the first step and that

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releases something downstairs and suddenly it all becomes really obvious and clear.

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So anyway, we'll get back to a little more of that.

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But I do want to just circle back for a second

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and talk just a couple of quick things.

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So next, I see we have.

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I thought I saw me see, I think you're on.

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Yep. Hey, Jonathan, glad you're on with us.

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And Michael, I thought I saw you earlier.

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Got to have you guys with us again

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since you're now permanent members.

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We're going to be at your place next time.

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Yay. In Seattle.

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So it's going to be amazing time.

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We're very excited about this.

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You guys are in for a massive treat.

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So that's in Seattle, August 2nd.

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We're going on the first that that night we will have some time together.

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We've hired a little room so we can all hang out, have some cocktails, be together.

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cinematic encounter, which I'm really excited about, where we get time

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to engage the Lord, enjoy worship.

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And it's going to be something where it's, I think, a time of the Lord

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clearing assumptions, clearing wrong beliefs,

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clearing lies we believe that we don't need to believe and opening us up to seeing

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what he sees and, you know, I think we're going to come back with a whole different mode.

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But I wouldn't be surprised if if a bunch

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of businesses just jump to the next level after an encounter time like that.

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OK, so and then the second thing is we're

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very excited to announce that we have a date for the Inner Circle Conference,

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September 22nd through 20, September 20th to 22nd.

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It's a Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

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Eastern on Friday morning and it will go through till Sunday afternoon.

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The Inner Circle Conference, Graham will be one of the speakers.

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I'll announce much more shortly.

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But I just want to get get that on your calendar.

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We'd love to have you there

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because what we're going to focus on at that conference, it's going to be a full

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virtual conference, that's not an in-person conference,

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much like we did for Brilliance 23 or 24.

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For those who attended that, it'll be a similar mode.

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And yes, Barry will be helping me from Sage.

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And that's I'm really excited.

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That's what was taking so long was to get him to get on Barry's schedule.

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I think Barry and the folks at Sage have done what?

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Twelve hundred of these virtual events for over a million and a half people.

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Unbelievable what they've done.

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So we were very excited because I think we've been building this inner circle

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program to the point that we're going to make some changes.

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we're going to take these three hours and break them up into the first hour.

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We'll be talking about our partnership and we'll have Graham Cook more involved.

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So Graham will be attending more often, at least for the first half hour.

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practical elements of walking with the Lord as a kingdom executive.

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We're going to invite any kingdom executive, whether you're the CEO,

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whether you're an executive in an organization, whether you're in a bigger

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company, we want to open that up to any kingdom executive.

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have and make that kingdom executive the hero will make you the hero of the story.

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these monthly meetings.

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you on how to partner with the Lord in every possible thing we can to make that

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successful. We want to do laser coaching and hot seats and then thirdly we're

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going to start doing the actual components of the Edge training. So

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remember the 40 weeks of Edge training stuff? We've repackaged all that to be

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12 key best business practices and that stuff's all covert stuff. So

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it's stuff that you can go and share with your team members and we want to

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make you look like the genius you actually are. So we want you to be the

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smallest person in the room knowing the latest materials and the latest and so

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that will be all around leadership, productivity, innovation and economics.

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And so we're going to spend a section of these meetings the last probably 45

435
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minutes around one of the Edge tools. Now we've revamped it so if you say

436
00:35:53.520 --> 00:35:58.520
well I've been through the Edge training we've taken it up a notch and

437
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that will also give these executives time once a week to have will have an

438
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open office time and we'll be able to really help them practically with how do

439
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you use this in your business. So here's what we're trying to do. We would like to

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offer Kingdom executives at the event the offer is going to be what if you

441
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were the touchpoint for the kingdom at your work? What if your job can be a

442
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:29.800
touchpoint for your work? You guys understand the language. Your work is

443
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:33.260
what you were created for in his workmanship in Christ. Your job is what

444
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pays the bills. What if your job can be the touchpoint for your work? What if we

445
00:36:40.200 --> 00:36:45.080
can teach you 12 Kingdom executive habits that we've learned as a

446
00:36:45.080 --> 00:36:49.120
Kickstarter for you in understanding and working your partnership with the Lord

447
00:36:49.120 --> 00:36:56.200
and what if we can give you 12 capable capabilities on the best management

448
00:36:56.200 --> 00:36:59.400
practices from around the world that we've been doing. So we've added three

449
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:04.000
brand new ones on how to manage your influence etc etc. Now we've got all the

450
00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:10.080
topics and we have time at the end I'll show them or I'll show you next time but

451
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the idea is we want to make we want to create Kingdom executives that are

452
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squares. They know to hear from the Lord and they know to execute at a level that

453
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is impressive. We want them to become amazing just like what Jesus said I do

454
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what I see the Father do and because the Father loves the Son he tells him

455
00:37:30.860 --> 00:37:35.020
everything is about to do and it will amaze you. We would love these people to

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be amazing in their different context. So it doesn't matter if in a big company or

457
00:37:39.220 --> 00:37:43.620
small company if they desire to be a Kingdom executive that's what we're

458
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gonna go after. So feedback how how does that sound to you since you are those

459
00:37:48.620 --> 00:37:54.500
people and you're the ones we're talking to you how does that how does that sound?

460
00:37:54.500 --> 00:38:00.420
How many of you like the Kingdom executive description? Yeah and you would

461
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identify if you heard that you would say that was me. Okay excellent yep so we

462
00:38:05.380 --> 00:38:09.140
were looking for the word and you said so obvious yeah but it took us six

463
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months to find it. So I don't think it's because we slow I think it was that this

464
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is what it takes it takes a long time to hone in on who's your who. You know find

465
00:38:21.100 --> 00:38:25.580
your people find your purpose right honing down your who down to that degree

466
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and for me that's that's what it is. So what we'll do is all that new stuff will

467
00:38:31.860 --> 00:38:36.340
kick in on October the 2nd and we'll kick in into the new mode. So it'll be

468
00:38:36.500 --> 00:38:42.460
like this conversational chatting laser coaching but also add the whole edge

469
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piece which means that we're we're going to for people who want to you know

470
00:38:48.980 --> 00:38:52.740
follow on afterwards you know they can bring other people in and we can have

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corporate clients. So we'll consider all these Kingdom executives to be private

472
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clients. Corporate clients will be when if they are that impactful in the

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00:39:01.380 --> 00:39:05.460
organization we want to be able to come in and help them in their organization

474
00:39:05.460 --> 00:39:08.860
and say what if we come and trained everybody on the edge stuff. That's why

475
00:39:08.860 --> 00:39:14.220
all the edge stuff will stay covert. I have to keep be careful not say

476
00:39:14.220 --> 00:39:19.860
covert. Covert has to stay covert meaning that there's going to be no doesn't

477
00:39:19.860 --> 00:39:24.300
matter about their religious or scriptural or you know Christian

478
00:39:24.300 --> 00:39:28.660
mindsets. We want to we want to take all the Kingdom goodness all baked in and

479
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give it to that team member and so then we'll we'll come up with corporate

480
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pricing for each of those groups. So this is allowed and thank you to Glenn

481
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who's been very helpful in all of this putting this together and because we

482
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were asking ourselves how can this help the single solopreneur and help the

483
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executive at PwC because you know that space. So from a company that has over

484
00:39:54.260 --> 00:39:58.820
300,000 employees to the one single employee how do we how do we move the

485
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kingdom forward?

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and create kingdom activators.

487
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We need to learn to activate the kingdom

488
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in our personal lives, in our teams, and in our companies.

489
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And the good news is you don't need 51% of the people

490
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to be believers to change the business.

491
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Because you're partnered with the three,

492
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and so you're in the majority.

493
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You're in the game.

494
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So you only need one, it just needs to be one of you.

495
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So instead of surviving a situation,

496
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what if you not only thrive,

497
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but shifted the whole atmosphere of the business you're in?

498
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What if you become the peacemaker

499
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when there's so much toxicity in the culture?

500
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What if you become the antidote to the enemy's strategy?

501
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:48.440
So as you can tell, I'm pretty excited about it.

502
00:40:48.440 --> 00:40:52.120
So we're gonna kick that off, September 20th to 22nd.

503
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I don't think it's gonna be called

504
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the Inner Circle Conference,

505
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we haven't given a name yet, we're working on it.

506
00:40:58.560 --> 00:41:02.120
We have some working names, but we'll come up with one.

507
00:41:02.120 --> 00:41:04.660
Yeah, so Kingdom Expansion, yeah.

508
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.440
It may just be the Kingdom Executive Conference.

509
00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:10.720
I can hear Barry in my head.

510
00:41:10.720 --> 00:41:13.360
Be clear, don't be clever, you know, so.

511
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So I love that.

512
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Be clear, don't be clever.

513
00:41:19.940 --> 00:41:20.780
All right.

514
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Did I miss anything else, team?

515
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:25.960
Did I get everything, dear?

516
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:27.660
All good, okay.

517
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Thanks for letting me do the little plug.

518
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I appreciate it.

519
00:41:32.500 --> 00:41:34.740
Let's go back to,

520
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so I wanna keep this part pretty brief

521
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and I'd love to get into a discussion.

522
00:41:41.580 --> 00:41:43.740
I think, I've forgotten who exactly said this,

523
00:41:43.740 --> 00:41:45.020
but sometimes we go through

524
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these long, difficult financial times.

525
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And how is it that we are in partnership with the Father,

526
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we're in our yoke with Jesus,

527
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we're walking in the stuff

528
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the Father has prepared beforehand,

529
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the Holy Spirit's our guide and our coach,

530
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we are people, executives of the kingdom,

531
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which means we have endless resources, and yet we struggle.

532
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Why are the kingdom people the poorest?

533
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We're the abundance people.

534
00:42:14.620 --> 00:42:15.660
You know, what's with that?

535
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And I remember having this conversation

536
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actually with Pedro once,

537
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which I think is why he started 100x,

538
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because he was lamenting this issue.

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And then the Lord challenged him to start 100x.

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So the point comes back to,

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I think what happens is this.

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The Lord is more interested in who you're becoming

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than what you end up doing.

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And I think that's the first thing.

545
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The second thing is,

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everything upstairs starts in his heart

547
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and then becomes who we're becoming in him.

548
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But then he expects that to have a downstairs expression

549
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for us to become a square.

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Not just to do what he says,

551
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but to be who he's created us to be.

552
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And this sounds rather obvious,

553
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but here's where I noticed a couple of things,

554
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is that when we come to rest,

555
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all our kingdom learning starts

556
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and all our downstairs learning is ignited.

557
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Because in that place,

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we can now start to see what we must do.

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Think of the day of Pentecost.

560
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You know, 3,000 people are speaking in tongues

561
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and everybody thinks they're mad.

562
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And Peter gets up and gives clarity.

563
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He said, these men are not drunk as you suppose.

564
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So then he explains about the prophecy

565
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and he gives clear description.

566
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So what's going on there?

567
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Peter's giving leadership to an upstairs event

568
00:43:47.020 --> 00:43:49.940
that's just happening, right in the event,

569
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and he's giving it a downstairs,

570
00:43:51.500 --> 00:43:53.900
understandable explanation.

571
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This is what's going on.

572
00:43:55.220 --> 00:43:56.240
This is what this means.

573
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And then their response is,

574
00:43:57.420 --> 00:43:58.240
what does this mean?

575
00:43:58.240 --> 00:43:59.540
What must we do?

576
00:43:59.540 --> 00:44:01.320
Right, that's the response.

577
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:03.140
So Lord, what does this mean?

578
00:44:03.140 --> 00:44:04.700
What must I do?

579
00:44:04.700 --> 00:44:07.740
There's the one thing the Lord wants you to do.

580
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So if we're thinking about why do we go through,

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and I'm speaking for myself here,

582
00:44:14.900 --> 00:44:18.260
why do we go through long extended financial battles

583
00:44:18.260 --> 00:44:21.540
when we feel God's called us to business and to wealth?

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Here's why.

585
00:44:26.260 --> 00:44:28.120
I'll speak for myself again.

586
00:44:28.120 --> 00:44:31.100
In these scenarios, how I learned this is that

587
00:44:32.560 --> 00:44:36.460
when the Lord gave me as a 26 year old,

588
00:44:36.460 --> 00:44:41.460
a very powerful prophetic word from a office prophet,

589
00:44:41.540 --> 00:44:43.900
who was a very substantial office prophet,

590
00:44:43.900 --> 00:44:45.860
not just a person with prophetic gifting,

591
00:44:45.860 --> 00:44:47.740
which is what most are,

592
00:44:48.180 --> 00:44:50.500
an actual office prophet and said,

593
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you're called to the ministry of wealth and wisdom.

594
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And I said, cool.

595
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And what you know, as you start to grow and engage.

596
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.960
with the Lord, he starts to show you the levels of what that

597
00:45:02.960 --> 00:45:07.800
means. But took me a while to realize I will never enter do

598
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:11.720
anything in finance or in wealth, until I did kingdom

599
00:45:11.720 --> 00:45:15.920
finance and understood his generous heart. So when the Lord

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says, you know, from Corinthians, give seed to sow

601
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and bread to eat. Too many Christians are eating their

602
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:28.520
seed. So when the Lord wants to bless you increases the

603
00:45:28.520 --> 00:45:31.960
storehouse, not of your bread, but of your seed. So when you

604
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:34.800
have a new project or something going on, you have to look

605
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:37.520
around. So I went to the Lord so frustrated one day, and I said,

606
00:45:37.520 --> 00:45:40.080
Lord, I'm trying to launch this thing, you know, for you. And

607
00:45:40.080 --> 00:45:42.800
the Lord says, not interested you doing it for me. I want to

608
00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:45.880
do it with you, with you. And you're not doing it in my way.

609
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:48.440
You're not doing it the kingdom way. And I said, Lord, I'm, I'm

610
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:52.160
being honorable, and I'm, you know, full disclosures and all

611
00:45:52.160 --> 00:45:55.520
that stuff. And the Lord said, you don't, you're not expressing

612
00:45:55.560 --> 00:45:59.760
my heart. When I realized, I said, Look, can you just tell me

613
00:45:59.760 --> 00:46:03.200
plainly because I'm really dense. So tell me plainly. And

614
00:46:03.200 --> 00:46:05.760
the Lord said, you don't have enough seed in the ground for

615
00:46:05.760 --> 00:46:09.560
the size of the harvest you're asking for. He says, you're like

616
00:46:09.560 --> 00:46:11.840
the farmer walks out with a handful of seed and you throw in

617
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:17.480
the ground. So okay, let's back up 50 trucks. My expectation in

618
00:46:17.480 --> 00:46:22.120
God was massive, in that I believed he could do it. But I

619
00:46:22.160 --> 00:46:27.080
had a handful of seed in the ground. And so then I realized

620
00:46:27.080 --> 00:46:30.280
and I think I was talking to one of you about this this week. Oh,

621
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:33.120
Ray, I think it was us. We're talking about sometimes God

622
00:46:33.120 --> 00:46:35.640
says, make this investment, and then it all goes south. And you

623
00:46:35.640 --> 00:46:38.440
go, what's with that? And the Lord says, that's how hard I

624
00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:40.800
have to work to get you to put seed in the ground. I'm not

625
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:45.480
saying that about you, right. But in my case, for sure. And

626
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:49.080
it's helpful to know this because the Lord wants us to

627
00:46:49.080 --> 00:46:53.400
have more seed in the ground, right? And sometimes, you know,

628
00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:58.480
the Lord will have me give away things. Why does this work of

629
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:03.840
seed? Because it says that we can be generous on every

630
00:47:04.040 --> 00:47:06.800
occasion. Yeah, Ray, it sounds like you want to weigh in and do

631
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:12.240
that. Which I can't hear. So I'm gonna watch you on the chat. Go

632
00:47:12.240 --> 00:47:12.600
ahead.

633
00:47:17.680 --> 00:47:18.240
Keep going.

634
00:47:19.080 --> 00:47:19.440
Okay.

635
00:49:19.080 --> 00:49:45.760
That is that's fantastic. Well, that's exactly what I bet you

636
00:49:46.200 --> 00:49:49.920
would just take a minute or go to the Lord and say, Lord, did

637
00:49:49.920 --> 00:49:52.480
you have to help me get a lot of seed in the ground? Can you

638
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:57.720
point out when? A business guy called me and said, Oh, man, I

639
00:49:57.720 --> 00:49:59.880
really felt the Lord told me to start this business. I

640
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:05.280
of the business and it failed what was all that and i said what if you consider all that to be

641
00:50:05.280 --> 00:50:10.400
seed have you asked the lord if that seed now i don't think we can be presumptive but let's ask

642
00:50:10.400 --> 00:50:16.960
the lord i can't tell you i said to the lord okay i don't want to do forced forced seed management

643
00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:25.040
can can i rather be a partner in it right i want to intentionally i want to intentionally

644
00:50:25.040 --> 00:50:30.800
partner with you and this is where the prophetic you know um

645
00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:39.680
where the prophetic does some very interesting things to us the first thing is that when we

646
00:50:39.680 --> 00:50:45.680
have a lot of spontaneous prophetic words the problem with the spontaneous words that's fine

647
00:50:45.680 --> 00:50:51.360
they're they're legitimate but they tend to be the shallow end of the prophetic pool

648
00:50:52.160 --> 00:50:56.560
the reason that the shallow end is because that spontaneous word can only address a need

649
00:50:58.640 --> 00:51:03.760
but a crafted prophetic word one that you in discussion with the lord and you're reviewing

650
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:10.000
and you're talking to others and it's in a well organized you know well weighed and governed word

651
00:51:10.800 --> 00:51:16.080
you start to partner with the intentionality with god's intentions with his kind intentions

652
00:51:17.040 --> 00:51:23.280
and so with the prophetic when we're in business it's very helpful to know that what the prophetic

653
00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:29.600
word is doing is the word is not for the now you the present you it's for the future you

654
00:51:31.520 --> 00:51:37.520
your prophetic word is god is speaking to your future you and he's saying okay we're going to

655
00:51:37.520 --> 00:51:45.680
grow you up into this and in this point this word applies so a lot of believers stay at this level

656
00:51:45.680 --> 00:51:51.520
keep getting words and reinforce words the lord's told me 17 times and so the question is why didn't

657
00:51:51.520 --> 00:51:55.920
you believe him the first time i suppose but you know in his kindness he tells us again and invites

658
00:51:55.920 --> 00:52:02.320
us again because he's just relentlessly kind so the question is we stay at this level and so we're

659
00:52:02.320 --> 00:52:09.120
waiting for somewhere magically this word up here to become true today and it doesn't come to pass

660
00:52:09.120 --> 00:52:16.000
and the reason is we never rose to the level to who that word was for because the real you in jesus

661
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:20.480
was given that word and the lord in his kindness isn't setting the bar so high you can never get

662
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:26.800
there and that's why the prophetic words of your lives change because the lord gives you the next

663
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:30.640
place you grow into that then he gives you another one and you go into the go well what about the old

664
00:52:30.640 --> 00:52:37.280
word no you fulfilled that let's move to the next word and the next word but overall of your life if

665
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:44.720
you're tracking and if you're looking at god's intentions you can see the underlying theme in all

666
00:52:44.720 --> 00:52:54.400
your words are all saying the same thing so it's look at the words word behind the words and so

667
00:52:54.400 --> 00:53:01.440
you know as i've gone through this process myself i've realized that it's not up to me to get me

668
00:53:01.440 --> 00:53:08.720
there it's the lord in his kind compliment he's saying this is how i see you and you go wow so

669
00:53:08.720 --> 00:53:16.960
that there's that there's the prophetic word has a father's compliment in it he's saying you're this

670
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:22.320
and you're so it's good to know what he's saying and then say okay lord how do we go from here and

671
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:30.720
the the downstairs or the sober view of yourself is to say okay i'm still here you're saying here

672
00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:37.120
what's the next thing we're engaging what's the next upgrade because you're the architect i resigned

673
00:53:37.680 --> 00:53:43.280
as the uh manager of my own self-development program right when we came to jesus he's the

674
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:48.880
author and finisher of our faith so we resigned from that function so what's the next thing because

675
00:53:48.880 --> 00:53:54.640
now we become sober and that's where the humility and the gentleness comes from because the lord

676
00:53:54.640 --> 00:54:01.840
kindly and gently says if we stay here here's here are the things that will disqualify this

677
00:54:01.840 --> 00:54:09.040
word from ever coming to be and and so we can't we can't take the word and think it's for the

678
00:54:09.040 --> 00:54:15.040
it's for the me now well god lives doesn't live in time so from his viewpoint it is but from

679
00:54:15.040 --> 00:54:21.600
our viewpoint it means that he is building us up to a place so the word the prophetic word

680
00:54:21.680 --> 00:54:28.480
pulls you up into a new kingdom possibility and in which you can be fully enriched in all that

681
00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:34.080
that prophetic word is offering you because god fully intends and he's fully committed to getting

682
00:54:34.080 --> 00:54:41.360
you there in fact you have to actively turn off the process you have to actively even if you take

683
00:54:41.360 --> 00:54:47.200
some detours make some mistakes along the way he he is totally fine with that he's not asking you

684
00:54:47.200 --> 00:54:54.000
to execute perfectly he's just asking that you walk with him in it and so what i have found is

685
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:59.840
very helpful if the lord says i've called you to you know

686
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:06.000
to wealth, and then he says, and there's been a prophetic word maybe around

687
00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:11.000
real estate, since several of you in that space are in real estate,

688
00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:15.000
then if I don't ever learn anything about real estate, and I don't go on any courses,

689
00:55:15.000 --> 00:55:19.000
and I don't study anything, so there's a downstairs learning that has to honour

690
00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:24.000
the upstairs word. So, it's amazing though, the kindness of the Lord,

691
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:27.000
He brings the right course, the right person, the right connection,

692
00:55:27.000 --> 00:55:31.000
and you're on the road. That's just, He is that kind, and that good,

693
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:35.000
and so meticulous in the details, you're bumping to the right person,

694
00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:40.000
whatever, He's architecting the whole thing, so the downstairs learning

695
00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:46.000
honours the upstairs word, and on top of it, you're going through an upgrade.

696
00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:50.000
I can never step into wealth until I step into His generosity.

697
00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:53.000
Because the scripture is not only generous on every occasion,

698
00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:57.000
but that you will then have all that you need in everything.

699
00:55:57.000 --> 00:56:03.000
So, the scripture is promising, in His financial management,

700
00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:06.000
scripture is promising you will have everything you need for your business,

701
00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:11.000
your capital, every, the next person you need to hire, I'll bring them along,

702
00:56:11.000 --> 00:56:16.000
you just need to receive them. But that means the kingdom way.

703
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:21.000
What we can't do is claim a kingdom promise, and use a worldly way,

704
00:56:21.000 --> 00:56:27.000
and think we'll get there. So, I think that, and none of us are deliberately

705
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:32.000
trying to do that, of course. So, I thought as we go through this,

706
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:39.000
it just seems that the Lord wants us to grow up into the full thing

707
00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:48.000
of who He says we are, and He's very kind in that process.

708
00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:53.000
So, many of us grew up with condemnation, or like most Christians,

709
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:56.000
we live in like constant low-grade condemnation.

710
00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:59.000
So, when we hear a prophetic word, and we say, oh, that's what He's saying,

711
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:02.000
that's what I am, we feel condemned. This is what I'm not.

712
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:05.000
That's why the Lord never deals with what you're not.

713
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:09.000
He only deals with who He's becoming, who you're becoming,

714
00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:14.000
and who wants to be for you. And so, what's helpful, what pulls you up,

715
00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:20.000
is Lord, who do you want to be for me now, in this next step that I didn't learn before?

716
00:57:20.000 --> 00:57:26.000
Well, you know, I'll be your provider, I'll be your sales executive,

717
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:31.000
I'll be your whatever. So, He steps into a very practical place,

718
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:36.000
and again, we have to come to rest, because we can't function,

719
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:40.000
this mechanism doesn't function except in rest.

720
00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:45.000
So, you can't connect to your yoke in stress.

721
00:57:48.000 --> 00:57:52.000
The way of the kingdom. Let's have some conversation.

722
00:57:56.000 --> 00:57:59.000
Let's weigh in. What do you guys think?

723
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:05.000
How many of you connect with what I'm saying, in terms of this learning,

724
00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:09.000
how does the prophetic map to the downstairs? Yeah, for sure.

725
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:13.000
Cool thing is, no condemnation.

726
00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:19.000
I can relate to that, Dion. I love how Father does that.

727
00:58:19.000 --> 00:58:23.000
You know, the higher He takes you, He just pushes more of the kingdom,

728
00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:26.000
and more of the Jesus, and it just expands.

729
00:58:26.000 --> 00:58:30.000
You're not trying to fix all this stuff, and it's just brilliant,

730
00:58:30.000 --> 00:58:34.000
because you can move fast, you can get healed as you move forward,

731
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:38.000
if you accidentally get shot. You know what I mean?

732
00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:43.000
But the point is, I love that, like how He constantly, you know,

733
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:48.000
elevates us, and just pushes us with His grace, and I don't know.

734
00:58:50.000 --> 00:58:55.000
No, that's exactly Emily, I think. The way I think of it is,

735
00:58:56.000 --> 00:59:01.000
that when I try to take on all this stuff, so that I can do it,

736
00:59:02.000 --> 00:59:08.000
that's when I'm not at rest. When I rest, it means I let it go.

737
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:12.000
Rest means I have to let go what's in my hand, to receive what's in His.

738
00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:17.000
Right? Rest means that I go, it's like childlike trust.

739
00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:20.000
I can't be in a yoke, and be pulling, and say,

740
00:59:20.000 --> 00:59:22.000
okay, I've got it, Jesus, I'm just going to hook you,

741
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:25.000
you know, we're hooked together in this, I'm just going to pull in this direction,

742
00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:29.000
because I want to please you. And He says, could you please stop pulling?

743
00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:34.000
So, the interesting thing about it, my burden is light.

744
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:38.000
There is a burden, there's a weight to be pulled, for sure, serious weight.

745
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:43.000
Sometimes you're going to be in times of long hours, real focused times.

746
00:59:43.000 --> 00:59:46.000
It doesn't mean we work 10 hours a week.

747
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:51.000
It doesn't mean, what it means is, it feels light to me.

748
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:55.000
There's such delight in what's going on, there's such deep trust

749
00:59:55.000 --> 01:00:00.000
in who the Father is in this, that I can boldly step into a position

750
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:09.360
he's saying and saying okay what's next so this is not the time to take business decisions

751
01:00:10.240 --> 01:00:16.800
that he isn't asking you to take because he's painting the upstairs will always be way ahead

752
01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:24.080
of the downstairs this means that what you're seeing in the lord and what you're seeing in

753
01:00:24.080 --> 01:00:28.880
your business there's always going to be a gap because the business is slowly following right

754
01:00:29.520 --> 01:00:36.880
and so where i've made mistakes is when i've tried to shrink the gap or i've made business decisions

755
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:45.760
um i mean in one particular case oh well i see tamra i see your hands up let me go to you first

756
01:00:47.520 --> 01:00:54.960
listen no i always love your stories so it's we've been on this journey and we've shared a

757
01:00:54.960 --> 01:01:00.320
little bit in here um last november we kind of we were growing we were doing great our company was

758
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:05.280
doing awesome it felt like it was flourishing and we were getting to that pivot point of tipping over

759
01:01:05.280 --> 01:01:12.560
into the greater things that's where we thought we were and then um we lost a significant employee

760
01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:20.000
and everything crashed i spent the next four months struggling in depression couldn't pull

761
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:26.160
it together everything felt fractured i just was so discouraged i mean there was this journey that

762
01:01:26.160 --> 01:01:32.160
god had to take me on um but it was a beautiful journey because in the journey he broke off some

763
01:01:32.160 --> 01:01:39.440
very significant things i let go and let god be the ceo of the company so that was a huge step

764
01:01:39.440 --> 01:01:48.160
forward but i also let go of the fear of man and that was huge for me to be able to recognize number

765
01:01:48.160 --> 01:01:56.880
one that i was letting what i feared about uh what was possible in my life based on other people

766
01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:05.760
okay so god got to break up this huge burden of fear of man and then um and out of that i

767
01:02:05.760 --> 01:02:11.920
get to be set free you know lots of burdens flew off the company started to get back into a flow

768
01:02:11.920 --> 01:02:21.040
again uh todd stepped in big time in december and took over marketing and sales and just um and in

769
01:02:21.040 --> 01:02:26.160
four years of having this company he has bought me tooth and nail adore my husband but something

770
01:02:26.160 --> 01:02:30.480
shifted you know but he has bought me tooth and nail on this i hate this i don't want to do this

771
01:02:30.480 --> 01:02:35.840
i don't like but it was my it was my assignment from god and that's how he kind of looked at it

772
01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:42.800
but he kicked in in december and since then the transformation of our company

773
01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:50.480
of our marriage of what's possible of our team has been significant so significant that

774
01:02:51.040 --> 01:02:57.360
in my inner being god just started setting me into who i am supposed to be number one

775
01:02:58.080 --> 01:03:03.760
todd is the we've known all along that todd has the prophetic word from 12 years ago or 13 years

776
01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:09.200
ago of he's going to be the wealthy businessman and he's the one who's got this influence on him

777
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:15.920
and um that has not manifested in his life and he's like why not why not why not so this is a

778
01:03:15.920 --> 01:03:22.640
great conversation but here's what's powerful that happened this assignment that i held on to

779
01:03:22.640 --> 01:03:28.240
so tight saying i have to do this for jesus i have to do this is my assignment i get to do

780
01:03:29.200 --> 01:03:34.720
it you know me yeah i just i mean i'm hold on strangleholding this thing

781
01:03:34.720 --> 01:03:42.320
to make sure his day is alive uh even while i'm squeezing it but um god changed so much in me in

782
01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:48.160
that time of challenge and depression and recognition and failure and the whole journey

783
01:03:48.160 --> 01:03:55.600
of six months to where was it a month ago todd or six weeks ago um god woke me up one morning

784
01:03:55.680 --> 01:04:00.800
and said todd is ceo and i went what

785
01:04:03.200 --> 01:04:09.840
okay you know todd's got the calling to be the wealthy businessman i don't that's not my calling

786
01:04:10.480 --> 01:04:16.880
you know my calling is as a you know influencer and raising people up and um so we got up that

787
01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:21.040
morning and i said to todd oh by the way you're going to be ceo you need to talk to god about that

788
01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:27.120
and he's like what i think that was on a sunday we were on the way to church and i said oh you're

789
01:04:27.120 --> 01:04:33.760
going to be ceo so you know get ready and monday and god worked on him all day long and monday

790
01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:38.160
morning i woke up you know we woke up and he's like god's like we're in worship together and

791
01:04:38.160 --> 01:04:45.760
it's like today's the day and i go okay todd are you ready to be ceo and he and he's he's pacing

792
01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:52.960
the room back and forth he can show you your story todd but he accepted the ceo position

793
01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:59.360
what a month ago or six weeks ago everything has kind of shifted and it is a beautiful peaceful

794
01:04:59.360 --> 01:04:59.840
place

795
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:02.160
I was so at peace.

796
01:05:02.160 --> 01:05:05.340
I'm COO, I'm doing operational stuff,

797
01:05:05.340 --> 01:05:08.520
but he has flourished.

798
01:05:08.520 --> 01:05:11.120
He is blossoming into this person

799
01:05:11.120 --> 01:05:13.440
that God has always meant him to be.

800
01:05:13.440 --> 01:05:15.240
But the journey of the last 13 years,

801
01:05:15.240 --> 01:05:16.560
what you were talking about,

802
01:05:16.560 --> 01:05:19.320
we get to go on this journey of becoming

803
01:05:19.320 --> 01:05:21.120
in order to even step into,

804
01:05:21.120 --> 01:05:23.580
I mean, all the years of seed planting,

805
01:05:23.580 --> 01:05:25.400
you know, in his character,

806
01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:28.320
gets him to step up into receiving this role

807
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:31.960
for a company that he never, ever wanted to be part of.

808
01:05:31.960 --> 01:05:34.440
Only God gets to do that.

809
01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:37.360
So it was this amazing journey.

810
01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:39.840
And the beautiful thing, yesterday,

811
01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:41.520
the person who quit in November,

812
01:05:41.520 --> 01:05:44.140
who was such an integral part of our company,

813
01:05:44.140 --> 01:05:47.680
she called me and said, can I come back?

814
01:05:47.680 --> 01:05:51.840
And I instantly went, of course, you know,

815
01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:56.680
and you coming back knowing that Todd is CEO and I am COO,

816
01:05:56.720 --> 01:05:58.540
and you're really going to be working for him.

817
01:05:58.540 --> 01:06:00.160
Are you okay with that?

818
01:06:00.160 --> 01:06:02.800
And she was like, yes, absolutely.

819
01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:04.880
And when she worked with us before,

820
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:07.200
her and Todd had a little bit of tension going on.

821
01:06:07.200 --> 01:06:09.520
So there's been a healing that's happening.

822
01:06:09.520 --> 01:06:12.760
And there's just, so I love the,

823
01:06:12.760 --> 01:06:14.560
don't get discouraged in the planting of seeds.

824
01:06:14.560 --> 01:06:16.080
And I think that's where I had gotten

825
01:06:16.080 --> 01:06:18.880
is in the discouragement of the planting of seeds,

826
01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:21.320
not recognizing that the harvest

827
01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:23.580
was just literally around the corner.

828
01:06:23.580 --> 01:06:26.580
And so I just, so much has happened

829
01:06:26.580 --> 01:06:28.900
since we talked last, even a month ago.

830
01:06:29.940 --> 01:06:31.380
I just wanted to share the encouragement of that,

831
01:06:31.380 --> 01:06:33.820
because it's right in alignment with what you're saying.

832
01:06:33.820 --> 01:06:35.220
Wow, thank you, Tamara.

833
01:06:35.220 --> 01:06:40.060
And congratulations, Todd, on your new job, your promotion.

834
01:06:40.060 --> 01:06:42.140
Appreciate it, yeah, yeah.

835
01:06:42.140 --> 01:06:44.140
God had to drag me in, that's all right.

836
01:06:45.460 --> 01:06:46.660
I know, yeah.

837
01:06:46.660 --> 01:06:48.980
Why does the, so why does the Lord,

838
01:06:48.980 --> 01:06:50.740
and this is not aimed at you, Todd,

839
01:06:50.740 --> 01:06:51.860
this is all of us, right?

840
01:06:51.900 --> 01:06:54.420
Why does the Lord have to drag us into stuff?

841
01:06:54.420 --> 01:06:57.340
Okay, I got dragged into getting seed,

842
01:06:57.340 --> 01:06:59.900
dragged into the, and it's like,

843
01:06:59.900 --> 01:07:03.460
Lord, why can't I just see what you're seeing?

844
01:07:03.460 --> 01:07:07.740
And the reason is we're still trying to do things for God.

845
01:07:07.740 --> 01:07:09.780
If we get out of the for God mode

846
01:07:09.780 --> 01:07:12.700
and get into the with God mode, everything changes.

847
01:07:12.700 --> 01:07:14.380
Because in the with God mode,

848
01:07:14.380 --> 01:07:17.060
he's the leader of the process.

849
01:07:17.060 --> 01:07:20.340
And I know we keep hopping on this over and over

850
01:07:20.580 --> 01:07:23.060
and over again, because it takes that much time

851
01:07:23.060 --> 01:07:28.060
to unlearn this usury, this usury theology.

852
01:07:28.380 --> 01:07:30.060
God must use me.

853
01:07:31.180 --> 01:07:34.180
God doesn't use people, and we know this.

854
01:07:34.180 --> 01:07:35.340
Just like you didn't have kids

855
01:07:35.340 --> 01:07:37.860
so that you had someone to use to mow the lawn.

856
01:07:37.860 --> 01:07:40.340
So it's the same thing, God doesn't use people.

857
01:07:40.340 --> 01:07:44.380
But he loves to partner, he wants in on the journey.

858
01:07:44.380 --> 01:07:47.140
He wants, because why?

859
01:07:47.140 --> 01:07:48.060
As Graham would put it,

860
01:07:48.060 --> 01:07:49.820
he wants the pleasure of your company,

861
01:07:49.820 --> 01:07:52.660
but he also wants you to have the pleasure of his company,

862
01:07:52.660 --> 01:07:56.780
to find out what he's like, how he wants to be for you.

863
01:07:56.780 --> 01:07:59.940
There's so much God is wanting to give us,

864
01:07:59.940 --> 01:08:03.580
but we're stuck in these very small spaces.

865
01:08:03.580 --> 01:08:06.820
And so God expands our thinking, expands our heart.

866
01:08:06.820 --> 01:08:10.180
Let's go to Matthew then, Glenn Hobbs.

867
01:08:12.740 --> 01:08:14.700
Did you see the note that I sent you?

868
01:08:14.700 --> 01:08:16.260
Because that's what I was gonna share about,

869
01:08:16.260 --> 01:08:17.700
if that's all right with you.

870
01:08:20.819 --> 01:08:24.819
Yeah, sure, I mean, you can share whatever you want to talk about.

871
01:08:24.819 --> 01:08:27.420
All right, well, I just, I'm new to this,

872
01:08:27.420 --> 01:08:28.819
and so I just want to make sure that...

873
01:08:28.819 --> 01:08:31.220
Yeah, no, thank you for asking, but you're welcome to share.

874
01:08:31.220 --> 01:08:36.220
Well, I just, so, I thought that I was in this crawlspace time,

875
01:08:36.220 --> 01:08:38.420
and, you know, because I was really confused,

876
01:08:38.420 --> 01:08:41.300
and oh my gosh, the words that I'm hearing today,

877
01:08:41.300 --> 01:08:45.100
and just the exact conversation that we're having

878
01:08:45.100 --> 01:08:48.819
that I needed to hear, oh, I don't know,

879
01:08:49.300 --> 01:08:52.460
oh, it's really powerful, because

880
01:08:58.819 --> 01:09:02.660
the whole idea of doing things with the Lord

881
01:09:03.979 --> 01:09:08.580
instead of for Him is so transformative and new for me.

882
01:09:12.140 --> 01:09:17.140
And it's just been such an amazing journey that,

883
01:09:17.300 --> 01:09:20.300
you know, I felt like I was asking the Lord,

884
01:09:20.300 --> 01:09:22.420
I said, did I mess all this up?

885
01:09:22.420 --> 01:09:24.660
Did I hear you wrong?

886
01:09:27.660 --> 01:09:30.060
I took this giant step of faith,

887
01:09:30.060 --> 01:09:34.859
and all of a sudden I thought, well, wow,

888
01:09:36.300 --> 01:09:38.460
man, if I did this wrong, I'm toast.

889
01:09:38.460 --> 01:09:42.220
And anyway, a group that I'd been leading

890
01:09:42.220 --> 01:09:46.979
for over almost a year, maybe a little more than a year,

891
01:09:47.819 --> 01:09:51.020
some issues arose in that group,

892
01:09:51.899 --> 01:09:56.900
and it really, I got a very uneasy sense

893
01:09:57.380 --> 01:09:59.980
of what was happening, and I.

894
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:08.800
I stepped away for a few days to just pray about what the Lord wanted me to do in it.

895
01:10:08.800 --> 01:10:18.040
They had an issue, well someone made an issue about surrounding some things with a ministry

896
01:10:18.040 --> 01:10:25.320
that I love and I'm very involved in that actually Dion was one of the people they were

897
01:10:25.320 --> 01:10:31.040
saying things about and so I prayed about it and during the BS Brilliant School of

898
01:10:31.040 --> 01:10:35.040
Leadership I reached out through Bridget, it's kind of precious I didn't want to interrupt

899
01:10:35.040 --> 01:10:39.400
Dion while he was talking, so I messaged Bridget, I didn't hear anything back and then later

900
01:10:39.400 --> 01:10:46.440
on I got a text message from Dion saying hey I hear we should talk and so we talked and

901
01:10:46.440 --> 01:10:54.320
then I lay out everything that's going on in the group and just to be, you know I didn't

902
01:10:54.320 --> 01:10:59.920
want to incite anything or inflame anything so I just read him exactly with no inflections

903
01:10:59.920 --> 01:11:04.760
or anything what was going on so that he would have an idea and he said you know Matthew

904
01:11:04.760 --> 01:11:09.760
there's a different spirit moving here than what's being said and we're going to move

905
01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:13.840
in the opposite spirit and so we're going to move in kindness and so he agreed to come

906
01:11:13.840 --> 01:11:15.420
meet with our group.

907
01:11:15.420 --> 01:11:22.480
The real quick version of that is the group wound up disintegrating for now and I've left

908
01:11:22.480 --> 01:11:28.640
it to allow them to hopefully have some healing and restoration but what was amazing about

909
01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:34.520
that was me doing what the Lord had led me to do with that group of people at the end

910
01:11:34.520 --> 01:11:38.920
of our conversation Dion said hey Matthew could you tell me about your ministry one

911
01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:44.200
more time and so I told him and explained about it because I was getting ready to leave

912
01:11:44.200 --> 01:11:54.320
this group because I'd spent the money that I had cashed out sowing seeds and now that

913
01:11:54.320 --> 01:11:59.920
I understand that reference that I was sowing those seeds trusting the Lord that he's going

914
01:11:59.920 --> 01:12:07.320
to bless it all which is fantastic and Dion said well you know we can't charge a ministry

915
01:12:07.320 --> 01:12:11.560
like that and I said well the thing is I'm having a really hard time figuring out how

916
01:12:11.560 --> 01:12:19.840
to file my papers and file whether I'm going incorporated or 501c3 or something I never

917
01:12:19.840 --> 01:12:24.000
heard of which he said well do you have a minute I'd like to introduce you to somebody

918
01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:29.640
and so he brought Todd into the conversation and Todd and I started he Todd wanted to hear

919
01:12:29.640 --> 01:12:32.640
about it so I told him about the ministry and Todd was like oh my god all of a sudden

920
01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:37.240
all I hear is hallelujah hallelujah thank you Jesus thank you Jesus and then Todd says

921
01:12:37.240 --> 01:12:42.280
well Matthew we're gonna help you get started we're gonna they're gonna train my CFO they're

922
01:12:42.280 --> 01:12:46.200
gonna free she's gonna have courses if I understand it correctly like online courses for like

923
01:12:46.200 --> 01:12:51.840
a year to learn how to walk and maximize all of the things all the things that they're

924
01:12:51.840 --> 01:12:57.040
gonna help us establish I mean God brought that all together in an afternoon I went from

925
01:12:57.040 --> 01:13:03.240
quitting the group to being blessed with being able to still stay in the group with my partner

926
01:13:03.240 --> 01:13:08.360
Luke and all those things came through and the Lord is just and then we started filming

927
01:13:08.360 --> 01:13:12.760
yesterday for the first time creating content directly for the program for the for the channel

928
01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:18.320
for the ministry and it's and it was beautiful and so just thank y'all so much for everything

929
01:13:18.320 --> 01:13:24.160
yeah well thank you thank you Matthew for what you guys do for reaching out to those

930
01:13:24.160 --> 01:13:30.840
who don't fit in church you know and I I love I love the the compassion of your heart I

931
01:13:30.920 --> 01:13:41.400
appreciate Glenn yeah thanks Dion and hi all I was just going to add a comment from from

932
01:13:41.400 --> 01:13:48.440
my journey just on the on the partnership thing and I've realized that my journey with

933
01:13:48.440 --> 01:13:52.560
the Lord has actually been a central theme has been of this this thing of partnership

934
01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:57.080
I never understood it only looking back I realized this is what it is and when I realized

935
01:13:57.080 --> 01:14:03.480
that I've we have had significant challenges in my career and so on over the years it's it's

936
01:14:03.480 --> 01:14:09.080
really coming back to one of two extremes off of partnership the first is I would say

937
01:14:09.080 --> 01:14:14.760
passivity where I might have a word or a promise or whatever and I just assume God's going to go

938
01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:22.360
and do that and there's nothing on my part to go and do it and I just just let it be and I've

939
01:14:22.360 --> 01:14:27.320
I've ended up in the ditch on that one in in a work situation in a bad way and then

940
01:14:27.880 --> 01:14:34.760
um the the other is the other extreme of of presumption where I've sort of done like okay

941
01:14:34.760 --> 01:14:39.160
I'm going to do this for you Lord or I suddenly get sort of wound up but I get sort of okay I

942
01:14:39.160 --> 01:14:44.280
have to go and do whatever the case may be and lo and behold I end up in the other ditch another

943
01:14:44.280 --> 01:14:48.840
side and and through all of those journeys it's really been a case of the Lord kind of bringing

944
01:14:48.920 --> 01:14:52.760
me back to the point of no I don't want you to be passive I want to do this with you no I don't

945
01:14:52.760 --> 01:14:58.360
want you to go run ahead I want to do this with you and and so this has just been a theme that's

946
01:14:58.360 --> 01:14:59.880
been you know and continue

947
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:04.040
used to grow in me at this point in time, you know, so it's just

948
01:15:04.040 --> 01:15:08.160
that, just that comment of it's not, it's not passivity, it's

949
01:15:08.160 --> 01:15:10.200
not presumption, but it's really the partnership.

950
01:15:11.040 --> 01:15:15.160
That's so good. Now, Glenn did an amazing one hour podcast,

951
01:15:15.160 --> 01:15:20.200
which will be available this Friday. And we would, we'll make

952
01:15:20.200 --> 01:15:22.960
sure you get it. And Glenn, really, thanks for going through

953
01:15:22.960 --> 01:15:28.000
all that. Because what the thing here is, it's not that I don't

954
01:15:28.000 --> 01:15:30.440
know if it's that we're presuming on the Lord, I know,

955
01:15:30.440 --> 01:15:33.920
we all use that word, because I don't think you can presume on

956
01:15:33.920 --> 01:15:37.280
the kindness of God. I think he loves it. If you presume more,

957
01:15:37.360 --> 01:15:40.840
could you presume more? Could you expect more? You know, I'm

958
01:15:40.840 --> 01:15:44.920
that kind, right? But it is a matter of getting out of step

959
01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:48.680
out of sync, you know, I think maybe his word, and, and the

960
01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:52.840
scripture is, you know, we live by the Spirit, let us also keep

961
01:15:52.840 --> 01:15:56.920
in step with the Spirit, which infers an amazing thing. That

962
01:15:56.920 --> 01:16:01.320
means you can be hearing in the Spirit, but get ahead. To me,

963
01:16:01.360 --> 01:16:04.360
that feels like the way the Lord talks to me about is you're

964
01:16:04.360 --> 01:16:08.520
trying too hard. Especially when you're in ministry, or you're in

965
01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:11.680
leadership, you want to do the absolute best, you know, it

966
01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:15.720
comes from a good heart, it comes from a desire to please

967
01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:19.920
the Lord to catch every nuance. You know, I've rarely seen

968
01:16:19.920 --> 01:16:22.560
people get ahead of the Lord leaders get ahead of the Lord

969
01:16:22.560 --> 01:16:26.360
where that wasn't the underlying motive. It wasn't that like it

970
01:16:26.360 --> 01:16:29.760
wasn't from arrogance. It wasn't from any of that. It was

971
01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:34.760
from a deep desire to be to live a life quote worthy of the Lord.

972
01:16:34.840 --> 01:16:37.640
Well, the minute you in Christ, and you're in partnership with

973
01:16:37.640 --> 01:16:40.680
him, you are living a life worthy of the Lord. What a life

974
01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:44.720
worthy of the Lord means is that you are receiving everything

975
01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:48.400
Jesus deserves you to have because he paid for it. See,

976
01:16:48.400 --> 01:16:53.040
Jesus paid already. And that's why the Father very geniously

977
01:16:53.080 --> 01:16:56.480
put you in yoke with Jesus, because that's where all the

978
01:16:56.480 --> 01:17:00.240
preparation, all the promises, all the everything is there. And

979
01:17:00.240 --> 01:17:03.200
then the Holy Spirit teaches us to stay in step, don't get

980
01:17:03.200 --> 01:17:07.360
ahead, don't get behind. So think of the oxen analogy, if

981
01:17:07.360 --> 01:17:11.400
you put a yoke around two oxen, of course, Jesus like the mega

982
01:17:11.400 --> 01:17:14.320
bull, and then we feel like the scrawny little bull next door.

983
01:17:14.320 --> 01:17:17.000
And if he just pushes, we get crushed, you know, that's why

984
01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:21.080
he's I'm gentle, I'm gentle. But I think I sometimes wonder if

985
01:17:21.200 --> 01:17:23.600
we're pulling the thing around, then I look up and I said, the

986
01:17:23.600 --> 01:17:26.120
yoke isn't even touching my neck, you're doing all the work.

987
01:17:27.320 --> 01:17:30.160
I'm like the scrawny, skinny little neck. And there's this

988
01:17:30.160 --> 01:17:33.760
yoke, and it's all around. I think that's how it feels. But

989
01:17:33.760 --> 01:17:40.000
to me, with the word the Lord uses to keep me in step, is you

990
01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:45.920
really can slow down, you're trying, you don't have to try to

991
01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:49.640
please me, you please me, because you're in Christ, you already

992
01:17:49.640 --> 01:17:53.080
have all the favor of heaven, because you're in Christ. And

993
01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:57.800
again, lots of unlearning, right? So hey, guys, so I hope

994
01:17:57.800 --> 01:18:01.920
this is encouraging to you. I hope this is, I know, there's a

995
01:18:01.920 --> 01:18:05.640
little bit of real talk. But honestly, you know, just

996
01:18:05.640 --> 01:18:08.320
watching all the comments and responses, it sounds like every

997
01:18:08.320 --> 01:18:11.280
single person knows what I'm talking about, because we all

998
01:18:11.640 --> 01:18:16.160
love the prophetic. But what the prophetic is doing is it's

999
01:18:16.200 --> 01:18:20.680
opening up our hearts and our capacity in the Lord to become

1000
01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:24.120
the person God sees when he looks at us. And that's what

1001
01:18:24.120 --> 01:18:29.520
grace is. Grace is the indwelling presence of God, to

1002
01:18:29.520 --> 01:18:33.640
empower that. That's what grace is, to empower the real you in

1003
01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:37.680
Jesus. That's what grace is. As you know, we don't like those

1004
01:18:37.680 --> 01:18:42.600
other kind of lesser definitions, you know, like

1005
01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:44.960
unmerited favor or whatever, because then Jesus didn't have

1006
01:18:44.960 --> 01:18:49.600
any, if that's true. You know, so the question around, and I

1007
01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:52.600
don't mean to take a sideswipe with that, but I just don't, I

1008
01:18:52.600 --> 01:18:55.120
want to accelerate the unlearning. It's not so much

1009
01:18:55.120 --> 01:18:59.480
that I care to, you know, as Graham would say, God is going

1010
01:18:59.480 --> 01:19:03.360
to diss your illusion. You know, he's going to get rid of

1011
01:19:03.360 --> 01:19:07.560
disillusion, he's going to diss your illusion. You know, God is,

1012
01:19:07.600 --> 01:19:11.640
he never functions in illusion. And what the enemy tries to do

1013
01:19:11.640 --> 01:19:15.520
is take your prophetic word and create an illusion around it to

1014
01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:18.560
try to get you out of step, to try to get you to run ahead, to

1015
01:19:18.560 --> 01:19:22.440
get you to push. And the Lord says, rest, rest, rest, rest,

1016
01:19:22.440 --> 01:19:24.960
because you will find rest for your soul. And if you're in that

1017
01:19:24.960 --> 01:19:28.960
rest, you'll be highly effective, to delight, you'll be

1018
01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:33.200
agile and fast. I want to talk practically, let's, let's land

1019
01:19:33.200 --> 01:19:36.800
this in a practical downstairs, let's map this further

1020
01:19:36.800 --> 01:19:41.720
downstairs. So I picked a mathematical function, a

1021
01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:45.080
mathematical word called a forcing function, anybody

1022
01:19:45.080 --> 01:19:49.200
familiar with the concept of forcing functions. And I was

1023
01:19:49.200 --> 01:19:52.080
listening to a podcast, I think I was listening to the Tesla

1024
01:19:52.080 --> 01:19:55.560
shareholders meeting, and Elon mentioned, I think he loves that

1025
01:19:55.560 --> 01:19:59.400
word forcing function. And I got to be thinking about, I started

1026
01:19:59.400 --> 01:20:00.080
talking to the Lord

1027
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.720
about that. And I realized the Lord does this for us.

1028
01:20:03.280 --> 01:20:07.440
They are. There's a in mathematics, forcing function

1029
01:20:07.480 --> 01:20:10.280
means if you can think of a signal, I'll try to keep it less

1030
01:20:10.280 --> 01:20:13.520
mathematical. But if you can think of a signal, then if

1031
01:20:13.520 --> 01:20:15.840
you're trying to go here, and you're trying to jump up to

1032
01:20:15.840 --> 01:20:18.440
there where your business is, you want to up level your

1033
01:20:18.440 --> 01:20:21.920
business to the next level. What a forcing function does is it

1034
01:20:21.920 --> 01:20:25.880
compresses the time. A forcing function takes what would have

1035
01:20:25.880 --> 01:20:29.640
taken a year and does it in a day is a forcing function as

1036
01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:33.480
all in a week, it gives it it forces into an almost

1037
01:20:33.720 --> 01:20:37.720
supernatural or should we say kingdom natural, that's a better

1038
01:20:37.720 --> 01:20:41.600
word. Because in the kingdom, it's nothing is supernatural

1039
01:20:41.600 --> 01:20:44.480
because isn't supernatural to God's natural to him. And since

1040
01:20:44.480 --> 01:20:48.320
the same for you, it's natural to you. Right. So I just edited

1041
01:20:48.320 --> 01:20:54.120
myself on the fly. So this forcing function is an

1042
01:20:54.120 --> 01:20:57.880
incredible function, because what it does is when you have

1043
01:20:57.880 --> 01:21:00.960
permission, one of the things I like to ask the Lord, and this

1044
01:21:00.960 --> 01:21:04.240
we're going to land this on an exercise today, is there a

1045
01:21:04.240 --> 01:21:09.800
forcing function that you need to implement in your business in

1046
01:21:09.800 --> 01:21:13.920
your ministry? Is there a forcing function that the Father

1047
01:21:13.920 --> 01:21:17.120
is behind that he's giving permission for? Because a couple

1048
01:21:17.120 --> 01:21:20.240
of things one, because what happens is he shrinks down the

1049
01:21:20.240 --> 01:21:25.760
time base. And so what sounds absolutely unreasonable and

1050
01:21:25.800 --> 01:21:31.320
unattainable in that timeframe. So, you know, we use these

1051
01:21:31.320 --> 01:21:35.840
forcing functions all the time. And, you know, even as recently,

1052
01:21:36.240 --> 01:21:41.160
when when the Lord said, I want you to start a global church, I

1053
01:21:41.160 --> 01:21:44.120
had a real problem with this. Firstly, I love the local church

1054
01:21:44.120 --> 01:21:46.760
and I've been a local church guy. And as many of you know, I'm

1055
01:21:46.760 --> 01:21:49.840
an ordained minister since my mid 20s. I have a degree in

1056
01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:55.320
theology, most of which I fortunately have had repaired in

1057
01:21:55.320 --> 01:22:02.040
Jesus. And some theology courses are great. However, the

1058
01:22:02.040 --> 01:22:06.080
forcing function in my life was when the Lord said, so Bridget

1059
01:22:06.080 --> 01:22:11.920
and I were visiting in Charleston, in January of 23. Is

1060
01:22:11.920 --> 01:22:13.080
that where it was, Bridget?

1061
01:22:13.320 --> 01:22:14.960
January 23, my birthday, yeah.

1062
01:22:15.040 --> 01:22:16.840
By the way, did you have your hand up earlier?

1063
01:22:17.320 --> 01:22:21.120
I did earlier. It was about sowing and sowing seeds.

1064
01:22:21.880 --> 01:22:24.680
Oh, yeah, yeah. Sorry about that. Yeah.

1065
01:22:24.880 --> 01:22:28.560
No, it's fine. I was just going to share that when we were

1066
01:22:28.560 --> 01:22:35.240
running 2016-2017, we ran a campaign for Graham called the

1067
01:22:35.240 --> 01:22:39.160
Gift of Time. And Dion and I did it purely out of obedience to

1068
01:22:39.160 --> 01:22:42.240
the Lord asked us to do it. And we invested into Graham's

1069
01:22:42.240 --> 01:22:45.400
ministry so that he didn't have to travel so much. Little did

1070
01:22:45.400 --> 01:22:49.000
we know that when all our stuff happened in 2018, that that

1071
01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:52.560
would actually come back to us not in money necessarily, but it

1072
01:22:52.560 --> 01:22:56.400
became our work and our job. That and through Brilliant. And

1073
01:22:56.400 --> 01:22:59.600
so I think sometimes when you're sowing, it's not always directly

1074
01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:02.880
in correlation to where you sowed. But sometimes, and we

1075
01:23:02.880 --> 01:23:05.240
didn't do that in order to get a job, you know, three years

1076
01:23:05.240 --> 01:23:08.360
later, we did it out of obedience at that point. And

1077
01:23:08.360 --> 01:23:11.600
then the Lord brought us in, you know, miraculously after all

1078
01:23:11.600 --> 01:23:14.920
our cruel, cruel space experience. So yeah, just an

1079
01:23:14.920 --> 01:23:17.800
encouragement that sometimes you do things out of obedience,

1080
01:23:17.800 --> 01:23:20.560
you don't really know why and how it was ever going to come

1081
01:23:20.560 --> 01:23:23.720
back as fruit, but it did. So you know, that's what I was

1082
01:23:23.720 --> 01:23:24.480
going to share.

1083
01:23:24.720 --> 01:23:26.760
Yeah, that's a good point, because you raise an additional

1084
01:23:26.760 --> 01:23:29.880
point. You know, a lot of people say I don't have a heart for

1085
01:23:29.880 --> 01:23:32.360
that. So I'm not giving to that. That's not how the kingdom

1086
01:23:32.360 --> 01:23:36.120
works. A downstairs worldly thing. The upstairs is I want to

1087
01:23:36.120 --> 01:23:38.360
have a heart for that. So I'm giving to that where your

1088
01:23:38.360 --> 01:23:42.480
treasure is, there your heart will be. Also, you can direct

1089
01:23:42.480 --> 01:23:46.280
your heart through your seed. You can direct your heart into

1090
01:23:46.280 --> 01:23:50.160
the things God is expanding and opening up to you. You can give

1091
01:23:50.160 --> 01:23:54.480
into the thing that you want your heart to be in, which is

1092
01:23:54.480 --> 01:23:57.920
what we didn't realize we were doing. And now, you know, it's

1093
01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:02.120
such an honor to be partners with Graham and Teresa, and the

1094
01:24:02.120 --> 01:24:05.360
team at Brilliant. So let's talk about this forcing function a

1095
01:24:05.360 --> 01:24:08.800
little more because when we were, I think it was January 23,

1096
01:24:08.920 --> 01:24:11.840
we're in Charleston, and we were visiting the Sage studios with

1097
01:24:11.840 --> 01:24:15.240
Barry and Blue. And we were, you know, trying to figure out I'd

1098
01:24:15.240 --> 01:24:19.120
met them at 100x conference. And I was very impressed by, by them

1099
01:24:19.280 --> 01:24:23.160
and that by Barry in particular, just had a particular clarity to

1100
01:24:23.160 --> 01:24:27.520
what she's as a real gift. And, and so we went there to see the

1101
01:24:27.520 --> 01:24:29.560
studios and see if we could Brilliant should run a

1102
01:24:29.560 --> 01:24:32.440
conference there. And while we're there, we just Bruce and I

1103
01:24:32.440 --> 01:24:35.960
was chatting and waiting on the Lord. And Bridget, you know, at

1104
01:24:35.960 --> 01:24:39.000
some point, we're gonna have to start a church. Now, you see, I

1105
01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:42.160
have an assumption of what that means. I have an assumption that

1106
01:24:42.160 --> 01:24:45.280
means get a building and a staff and a program, all of which I'm

1107
01:24:45.320 --> 01:24:49.680
zero interested in doing. So I said to them, what did I do, I

1108
01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:54.000
connected those assumptions to the Word of the Lord. And I said,

1109
01:24:54.120 --> 01:24:57.040
we're not going to start a church not for years to come. See

1110
01:24:57.040 --> 01:25:00.080
what happened there is I did the opposite of a forcing function.

1111
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:06.400
What I did there was I delayed it out into the future because of an assumption I had.

1112
01:25:06.400 --> 01:25:09.740
And so a little while after that, we had a great visit and happened to be actually on

1113
01:25:09.740 --> 01:25:10.900
Bridget's birthday.

1114
01:25:10.900 --> 01:25:15.700
And then I think shortly after, a few weeks later, we were in Nashville visiting my son.

1115
01:25:15.700 --> 01:25:19.740
And about four in the morning, the Lord wakes me up and says, okay, we're going to start

1116
01:25:19.740 --> 01:25:20.740
a local church.

1117
01:25:20.740 --> 01:25:25.380
And the first thing I went to is I said, Lord, he started a church and I said, what, Lord,

1118
01:25:25.380 --> 01:25:28.240
I don't want to, you know, this is how you explain stuff to God, like he doesn't quite

1119
01:25:28.240 --> 01:25:29.240
get it.

1120
01:25:29.680 --> 01:25:31.480
So I was doing that thing, the Gideon thing.

1121
01:25:31.480 --> 01:25:32.560
I'm the wrong person.

1122
01:25:32.560 --> 01:25:33.560
I'm from the wrong tribe.

1123
01:25:33.560 --> 01:25:36.600
God just ignores all that negativity and waits for us to finish, then he just carries on

1124
01:25:36.600 --> 01:25:38.100
saying what he was saying.

1125
01:25:38.100 --> 01:25:42.160
As you notice, the angel of the Lord just said, the Lord is with you, mighty warrior,

1126
01:25:42.160 --> 01:25:46.760
you know, called out his identity and kept going, just ignored all his negativity.

1127
01:25:46.760 --> 01:25:51.820
And so when I got down, I wrote down the blueprint for what became Brilliant Church.

1128
01:25:51.820 --> 01:25:53.600
And the Lord said, I want it to be global.

1129
01:25:53.600 --> 01:25:54.640
I want it to be online.

1130
01:25:54.640 --> 01:25:55.640
I want you to lead.

1131
01:25:55.640 --> 01:25:57.720
I said, Lord, everyone really expect Graham to lead it.

1132
01:25:57.720 --> 01:25:59.200
And the Lord said, I want you to lead it.

1133
01:25:59.200 --> 01:26:02.760
And I said, well, I've just done this for Pedro, you know, and his deal.

1134
01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:06.220
And you'll remember this, Tamara, you guys just finished registering and doing all the

1135
01:26:06.220 --> 01:26:07.220
stuff with.

1136
01:26:07.220 --> 01:26:10.800
And we just got the first board meeting and everything ratified and got it all up and

1137
01:26:10.800 --> 01:26:11.800
running.

1138
01:26:11.800 --> 01:26:13.320
So I said, well, why don't we just use that?

1139
01:26:13.320 --> 01:26:16.240
And the Lord said, I have my assignment for Pedro.

1140
01:26:16.240 --> 01:26:17.240
This is your assignment.

1141
01:26:17.240 --> 01:26:18.240
You must take this on.

1142
01:26:18.240 --> 01:26:23.560
I said, Lord, do you have any other assignments?

1143
01:26:23.560 --> 01:26:26.160
Just asking, you know, you know, I'm going to do it.

1144
01:26:26.360 --> 01:26:31.200
Just asking, just thought I would throw that in there just in case there are, you know,

1145
01:26:31.200 --> 01:26:36.320
multiple choice or something, you know, anyway, so.

1146
01:26:36.320 --> 01:26:38.920
And of course, we, Bridget and I flew to Santa Barbara.

1147
01:26:38.920 --> 01:26:42.880
We sat down with Graham and Teresa and with Jenny.

1148
01:26:42.880 --> 01:26:45.320
And we just said, we feel like this is what the Lord is saying.

1149
01:26:45.320 --> 01:26:48.800
And, you know, I just didn't think that.

1150
01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:55.400
And then the Lord said, I want it to be an apostolic prophetic movement so that, so that

1151
01:26:55.640 --> 01:27:01.640
you can empower local churches, but also give people a place to belong who have stepped

1152
01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:08.080
into the kingdom and have started becoming kingdom activators and now have no home.

1153
01:27:08.080 --> 01:27:12.560
You know, and actually, I've got to be honest, my heart broke because I was thinking, I don't

1154
01:27:12.560 --> 01:27:16.680
want to be a church where people can't come and be an activator.

1155
01:27:16.680 --> 01:27:19.720
And if they do, they can only activate in my space.

1156
01:27:19.720 --> 01:27:24.560
They can only do what fits our mandate, our little box or whatever.

1157
01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:27.040
And I don't want to disciple anyone to a movement.

1158
01:27:27.040 --> 01:27:28.720
I want to disciple them to Jesus.

1159
01:27:28.720 --> 01:27:31.720
I want them to go and do whatever he says, go and do that.

1160
01:27:31.720 --> 01:27:33.960
And so we launched that.

1161
01:27:33.960 --> 01:27:36.960
Now, now we flip the forcing function.

1162
01:27:36.960 --> 01:27:41.160
And then the Lord said, by the way, I also want a leadership school.

1163
01:27:41.160 --> 01:27:42.400
So I called Tamara.

1164
01:27:42.400 --> 01:27:43.600
We worked out the thing.

1165
01:27:43.600 --> 01:27:51.720
You guys, like in rapid time, registered Brilliant Church and for us and the 508.

1166
01:27:51.720 --> 01:27:52.720
And we got that going.

1167
01:27:52.880 --> 01:27:57.680
Three weeks we launched the church and a school that now, you know, I have a very high opinion

1168
01:27:57.680 --> 01:27:58.680
of Team Brilliant.

1169
01:27:58.680 --> 01:28:01.720
So, you know, that's just, you know, what we did.

1170
01:28:01.720 --> 01:28:02.720
I know.

1171
01:28:02.720 --> 01:28:05.800
I think, Jenny, I saw you earlier.

1172
01:28:05.800 --> 01:28:09.360
I don't know if you have any comments on any of it and what it was like, but there was

1173
01:28:09.360 --> 01:28:12.600
a forcing function that the Lord put in place.

1174
01:28:12.600 --> 01:28:16.960
And what should have taken what I thought was going to take three to five years took

1175
01:28:16.960 --> 01:28:18.480
three to five weeks.

1176
01:28:18.480 --> 01:28:19.520
So there you go.

1177
01:28:19.520 --> 01:28:21.200
We launched on the first of May.

1178
01:28:21.200 --> 01:28:26.080
We just recently celebrated our first year when 28 countries, 49 states.

1179
01:28:26.080 --> 01:28:27.440
God is doing something.

1180
01:28:27.440 --> 01:28:37.120
And I had to I had to find the assumption that was that was causing me to misinterpret

1181
01:28:37.120 --> 01:28:41.640
the word and take the wrong action.

1182
01:28:41.640 --> 01:28:45.720
We say upstairs, upstairs permission leads to ball downstairs action.

1183
01:28:45.720 --> 01:28:48.880
I was trying to do ball downstairs action.

1184
01:28:49.000 --> 01:28:51.360
The interpretation of that.

1185
01:28:51.360 --> 01:28:54.240
And so that's that's the kindness of the Lord.

1186
01:28:54.240 --> 01:28:58.600
So forcing functions, once you kick in a forcing function, by the way, several things happen.

1187
01:28:58.600 --> 01:29:00.680
You highlight weaknesses in your leadership.

1188
01:29:00.680 --> 01:29:02.520
You highlight weaknesses in your team.

1189
01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:06.360
You highlight weaknesses in your products, in your systems, in your vendors.

1190
01:29:06.360 --> 01:29:10.680
I mean, it just flushes out everything, you know.

1191
01:29:10.680 --> 01:29:15.280
And these forcing functions are incredibly helpful because what they do, it requires

1192
01:29:15.280 --> 01:29:18.120
super clear decision making.

1193
01:29:18.120 --> 01:29:21.200
And the reason I'm telling my story is going to because I'm asking the law, I want to give

1194
01:29:21.200 --> 01:29:26.960
you five types of forcing functions that I found work, and maybe one of them will help

1195
01:29:26.960 --> 01:29:27.960
you.

1196
01:29:27.960 --> 01:29:32.960
So in that moment, it clears it brings such clarity.

1197
01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:38.600
And as you know, clarity, because complexity is the enemy of clarity, right?

1198
01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:41.680
We know that as you grow, things get complex.

1199
01:29:41.680 --> 01:29:44.640
And when things get complex, you can't see anymore.

1200
01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:48.800
And so you have to force clarity to get to simplicity.

1201
01:29:48.800 --> 01:29:52.640
It takes a lot of courage to be simple, right?

1202
01:29:52.640 --> 01:29:55.480
Takes a tremendous amount of courage to be simple.

1203
01:29:55.480 --> 01:29:59.960
And of course, the master of simplicity was Jesus himself, you know, tells these

1204
01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:05.640
You know, these parables that are so profound and teach us how to walk with the Lord and

1205
01:30:05.640 --> 01:30:06.940
be with the Lord.

1206
01:30:06.940 --> 01:30:10.860
And he made it so simple, every single person could understand it.

1207
01:30:10.860 --> 01:30:15.980
So here are a couple of things that, you know, we, so we launched the church, we're going

1208
01:30:15.980 --> 01:30:18.580
along and, you know, a couple of months into it.

1209
01:30:18.580 --> 01:30:21.080
And then we, then we had this discussion.

1210
01:30:21.080 --> 01:30:23.320
We need to have a conference.

1211
01:30:23.320 --> 01:30:25.700
And you know, we had just gone to see Sage.

1212
01:30:25.700 --> 01:30:27.220
So we were thinking of doing something at Sage.

1213
01:30:27.220 --> 01:30:28.260
So we contact Sage.

1214
01:30:28.260 --> 01:30:29.260
We engage them.

1215
01:30:29.260 --> 01:30:31.020
We start the process.

1216
01:30:31.020 --> 01:30:35.820
And Barry is like on our case, if anyone's worked with Barry, I know, Ray, I know you've

1217
01:30:35.820 --> 01:30:36.820
worked with Barry.

1218
01:30:36.820 --> 01:30:38.700
You've done a few events with her.

1219
01:30:38.700 --> 01:30:41.060
Anyone's worked with Barry, you know what it's like.

1220
01:30:41.060 --> 01:30:43.620
And she kept asking.

1221
01:30:43.620 --> 01:30:46.260
And so we thought we're running a church conference.

1222
01:30:46.260 --> 01:30:50.500
About I don't know, halfway through the planning phase, we realized we are not running a church

1223
01:30:50.500 --> 01:30:53.340
conference, we're running a school conference.

1224
01:30:53.340 --> 01:30:55.860
That's how far off we were.

1225
01:30:55.860 --> 01:30:59.240
Maybe you guys look at us and say, well, you've got Graham, you have an office prophet, you

1226
01:31:00.220 --> 01:31:01.220
can the guys never miss it.

1227
01:31:01.220 --> 01:31:02.220
Oh, we miss it all the time.

1228
01:31:02.220 --> 01:31:03.560
It's part of the learning.

1229
01:31:03.560 --> 01:31:05.160
It's part of the direct learning, guys.

1230
01:31:05.160 --> 01:31:13.560
And I want to demystify that this gets better, the more maturing Christ you become.

1231
01:31:13.560 --> 01:31:16.640
It's the same, just more zeros get added.

1232
01:31:16.640 --> 01:31:18.240
That's all that happens.

1233
01:31:18.240 --> 01:31:21.400
Just more at stake, Jenny.

1234
01:31:21.400 --> 01:31:27.320
You forgot that we had personnel, we had some team members during that time as well, that

1235
01:31:27.320 --> 01:31:29.840
we had phase out and new ones come in.

1236
01:31:29.840 --> 01:31:36.240
And I think the thing that keeps just coming back to me, Dion, is, and I appreciate how

1237
01:31:36.240 --> 01:31:41.760
you said that, it's not that it goes away, the more you carry on, and the more you're

1238
01:31:41.760 --> 01:31:43.300
walking with God.

1239
01:31:43.300 --> 01:31:49.120
But what happens is you begin to see him as big, and you see his capacity and what he

1240
01:31:49.120 --> 01:31:50.280
can do.

1241
01:31:50.280 --> 01:31:53.840
And that's what becomes bigger than anything else.

1242
01:31:53.840 --> 01:31:58.760
And so you begin to look for his beauty and his majesty everywhere.

1243
01:31:58.760 --> 01:32:01.880
And anything less than that, it just pales in comparison.

1244
01:32:01.880 --> 01:32:09.320
And so when I think back on that time, that was such an intensely accelerated time.

1245
01:32:09.320 --> 01:32:15.840
And going through it, I remember the conversations that we were having were all about partnership

1246
01:32:15.840 --> 01:32:19.220
and partnering with what God wanted to do in that time.

1247
01:32:19.220 --> 01:32:22.340
And we didn't have it all together in the beginning.

1248
01:32:22.340 --> 01:32:24.300
We didn't have the full picture.

1249
01:32:24.300 --> 01:32:28.980
You didn't have that full picture, and we figured it out as we went along.

1250
01:32:28.980 --> 01:32:37.060
And what made it delightful was the partnership aspect, knowing that it wasn't dependent upon

1251
01:32:37.060 --> 01:32:41.740
what it was that we could accomplish or what we could do, but it was fully dependent upon

1252
01:32:41.740 --> 01:32:46.460
partnering with him and making it be easy.

1253
01:32:46.460 --> 01:32:49.700
Thank you so much for sharing that, Jenny.

1254
01:32:49.700 --> 01:32:51.980
So much went on at that time with us.

1255
01:32:51.980 --> 01:32:55.740
In that moment when we...

1256
01:32:55.740 --> 01:33:01.660
And they talk about having to be humble, explaining to the company you just hired that actually

1257
01:33:01.660 --> 01:33:04.340
it's not a church thing.

1258
01:33:04.340 --> 01:33:06.180
The offer isn't come join the church.

1259
01:33:06.180 --> 01:33:09.700
The offer is sign up for the School of Leadership.

1260
01:33:09.700 --> 01:33:12.740
And also we realized we'd misnamed it.

1261
01:33:12.740 --> 01:33:15.820
So then it became the Brilliant School of Leadership.

1262
01:33:15.820 --> 01:33:18.340
Because we just called it Brilliant Leader, I think, in the beginning.

1263
01:33:18.460 --> 01:33:22.460
Maybe some of you remember that in its first incantation.

1264
01:33:22.460 --> 01:33:28.020
And we realized that when we ran that, when we were running the Edge, Tuesdays we do the

1265
01:33:28.020 --> 01:33:30.100
spiritual leadership, kingdom leadership stuff.

1266
01:33:30.100 --> 01:33:34.900
Wednesdays we do all the covert stuff where we trained all the best business practices.

1267
01:33:34.900 --> 01:33:37.400
And then we realized, hang on, these are two separate things.

1268
01:33:37.400 --> 01:33:41.420
Not only were they two separate things, but the Brilliant Leader was a business in and

1269
01:33:41.420 --> 01:33:43.060
of itself.

1270
01:33:43.060 --> 01:33:45.420
And that's what became the Brilliant School of Leadership.

1271
01:33:45.420 --> 01:33:48.020
On the other side, that's what became the Edge.

1272
01:33:48.700 --> 01:33:49.700
That's what you've joined.

1273
01:33:49.700 --> 01:33:50.700
That's the inner circle.

1274
01:33:50.700 --> 01:33:53.540
That's gone back to mine and Bridget's company, I-49.

1275
01:33:53.540 --> 01:33:54.900
And that's what we're building.

1276
01:33:54.900 --> 01:33:56.860
But it's still very closely tied.

1277
01:33:56.860 --> 01:34:00.220
It's not a direct Brilliant thing, but it's all tied.

1278
01:34:00.220 --> 01:34:04.820
People join Brilliant TV on the app, then many of them want to say, hey, I want community

1279
01:34:04.820 --> 01:34:05.820
now.

1280
01:34:05.820 --> 01:34:06.820
So they join the church.

1281
01:34:06.820 --> 01:34:07.820
Many of them want leadership training.

1282
01:34:07.820 --> 01:34:09.420
So Brilliant School of Leadership.

1283
01:34:09.420 --> 01:34:15.940
And then they want to become kingdom executives and truly activate the kingdom at a high level.

1284
01:34:15.940 --> 01:34:19.460
Now, doesn't that sound like an impressive value ladder?

1285
01:34:19.460 --> 01:34:23.380
Okay, full disclosure, we never thought of any of that.

1286
01:34:23.380 --> 01:34:26.020
None of that was us.

1287
01:34:26.020 --> 01:34:28.060
We discovered that the Lord had built that.

1288
01:34:28.060 --> 01:34:29.220
And so we gave it a name.

1289
01:34:29.220 --> 01:34:31.620
And man, you guys are such clear thinkers.

1290
01:34:31.620 --> 01:34:35.820
Yep, we're geniuses.

1291
01:34:35.820 --> 01:34:41.540
So I'm trying to make this very real, you know, I'm just letting you know, man, none

1292
01:34:41.540 --> 01:34:42.540
of us have this now.

1293
01:34:42.540 --> 01:34:44.420
But here's the amazing venture with God.

1294
01:34:44.500 --> 01:34:46.540
Jenny, thank you for bringing that up.

1295
01:34:46.540 --> 01:34:51.460
Our confidence in His competence grows exponentially.

1296
01:34:51.460 --> 01:34:59.380
In fact, we find out the Lord will relentlessly be kind and good to you until you settle this

1297
01:34:59.380 --> 01:34:59.900
issue.

1298
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:06.440
that he's always kind to you until your confidence is set in permanent mode.

1299
01:35:06.640 --> 01:35:11.280
It's like God wants to turn the volume up to 10 and then snap the knob off so you

1300
01:35:11.480 --> 01:35:14.880
can't turn it down, and that's exactly what he wants.

1301
01:35:15.080 --> 01:35:16.440
He wants you to know.

1302
01:35:16.640 --> 01:35:19.360
And I remember a few years ago,

1303
01:35:19.560 --> 01:35:24.000
Graham shared this question and he just absolutely undid me.

1304
01:35:24.200 --> 01:35:28.600
And at Brilliance 23 last September, I tried to raise it in the thing.

1305
01:35:28.600 --> 01:35:30.800
And I kind of got emotional.

1306
01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:35.160
And the question was, you know, because you can use this for yourself.

1307
01:35:35.360 --> 01:35:40.880
You know, so in my case, Dion, what will it take for you to believe

1308
01:35:41.080 --> 01:35:47.320
that I am unceasingly and relentlessly majestic towards you?

1309
01:35:47.520 --> 01:35:50.520
What will it take in your life, in your business?

1310
01:35:50.720 --> 01:35:54.680
What will it take for you to turn the knob up to 10 and snap it off and leave it

1311
01:35:54.880 --> 01:35:59.840
in that extreme mode of confidence in his goodness?

1312
01:36:00.040 --> 01:36:01.400
What will it take?

1313
01:36:01.600 --> 01:36:04.920
And and I said, well, Lord, I don't want any I don't want to put you

1314
01:36:04.920 --> 01:36:07.560
in a place where you have to do these forcing functions on me.

1315
01:36:07.760 --> 01:36:09.400
Force me to proceed.

1316
01:36:09.600 --> 01:36:14.440
Force me to take on a position that I didn't even think I wanted.

1317
01:36:14.640 --> 01:36:17.360
I didn't want to be a pastor of a church particularly.

1318
01:36:17.560 --> 01:36:19.000
And

1319
01:36:19.200 --> 01:36:23.600
now I'm loving it, absolutely loving what we're doing at Brilliant Church and just

1320
01:36:23.600 --> 01:36:26.720
watching our team grow has been huge for us.

1321
01:36:26.920 --> 01:36:29.520
So what's going to happen in a forcing function?

1322
01:36:29.560 --> 01:36:32.240
You're going to flush out all the weaknesses in your system.

1323
01:36:32.280 --> 01:36:33.800
You're going to flush out where all your

1324
01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:37.240
lack is, which is great to know because now you can deal with that.

1325
01:36:37.440 --> 01:36:41.080
It's going to teach your team collaboration and coordination on the main thing.

1326
01:36:41.080 --> 01:36:42.680
And all the fluffy bits will fall away

1327
01:36:42.680 --> 01:36:46.920
very quickly because I have time for the fluffy bits and I have time for politics

1328
01:36:47.120 --> 01:36:50.640
and blah, because we've got to deliver it in a week, you know.

1329
01:36:50.640 --> 01:36:53.560
And and for us to pull off that conference

1330
01:36:53.760 --> 01:36:57.720
in such a short period of time was was extraordinary.

1331
01:36:57.920 --> 01:37:04.280
And we walked away from that conference and we said that was our best event yet.

1332
01:37:04.480 --> 01:37:06.040
And then we did Brilliant's 24.

1333
01:37:06.240 --> 01:37:08.680
No, no, no. That was our best event.

1334
01:37:08.880 --> 01:37:11.360
And we quoted it as best not because we

1335
01:37:11.560 --> 01:37:16.720
had fantastic conversion rates and all that stuff, but because it felt like we

1336
01:37:16.720 --> 01:37:21.880
gave Jesus the bride he deserves, which is what Brilliant's mission statement is.

1337
01:37:22.080 --> 01:37:23.840
Why do we do what we do at Brilliant?

1338
01:37:24.040 --> 01:37:26.160
To give Jesus the bride he deserves.

1339
01:37:26.360 --> 01:37:31.080
He deserves her to be equipped, to know she's fully loved, to know she's that that

1340
01:37:31.280 --> 01:37:33.080
he adores her, et cetera.

1341
01:37:33.280 --> 01:37:35.040
That's what she deserves.

1342
01:37:35.240 --> 01:37:37.200
Jesus deserves for her to know.

1343
01:37:37.400 --> 01:37:40.840
OK, let's talk about quickly five, five quick things.

1344
01:37:40.840 --> 01:37:43.560
I put a little slide deck together just to vary it up a bit.

1345
01:37:43.760 --> 01:37:45.320
Yeah, I'll just pull this up here.

1346
01:37:45.560 --> 01:37:47.760
So let's just quickly walk.

1347
01:37:47.760 --> 01:37:49.160
There's only a couple of slides.

1348
01:37:49.160 --> 01:37:52.120
I don't like slides normally, but we've been talking about, you know,

1349
01:37:52.120 --> 01:37:56.000
when you think of the bell curve of the growth of a business, there's the idea.

1350
01:37:56.200 --> 01:37:57.680
There's this kick it off and start.

1351
01:37:57.880 --> 01:38:00.520
So a hundred X are pretty good at that front end piece.

1352
01:38:00.720 --> 01:38:03.720
You know, that was when I drew this diagram

1353
01:38:03.920 --> 01:38:06.000
for Pedro, that's what he isolated as.

1354
01:38:06.200 --> 01:38:09.120
But then what happens is we start to hit success.

1355
01:38:09.320 --> 01:38:13.000
And then you see the little resistance factor there from success to prime.

1356
01:38:13.120 --> 01:38:15.920
Prime is the point where if we try to get

1357
01:38:16.120 --> 01:38:20.440
from success to prime, we develop infrastructure and systems

1358
01:38:20.640 --> 01:38:24.720
in our business that's built around success and they very loose structures.

1359
01:38:24.920 --> 01:38:28.560
They are, you know, everybody kind of doing everything.

1360
01:38:28.760 --> 01:38:30.760
A lot of generalists, right.

1361
01:38:30.960 --> 01:38:32.320
A lot of generals working hard.

1362
01:38:32.520 --> 01:38:33.960
So if you if you think about when you

1363
01:38:34.160 --> 01:38:38.240
started, you were the single solopreneur, you did everything right.

1364
01:38:38.440 --> 01:38:40.400
Then you transition to a team that did

1365
01:38:40.400 --> 01:38:42.480
everything, a bunch of generalists.

1366
01:38:42.680 --> 01:38:45.120
The hard part of going from success to

1367
01:38:45.320 --> 01:38:50.120
prime is to start to specialize and put people in their lane.

1368
01:38:50.320 --> 01:38:52.320
And you start hearing words like, can we

1369
01:38:52.320 --> 01:38:55.160
go back to the good old days where we all knew everything?

1370
01:38:55.360 --> 01:38:57.040
Because now we don't all know everything.

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01:38:57.240 --> 01:38:59.520
Can we? You know, one of the first things I had

1372
01:38:59.520 --> 01:39:03.280
to implement when I came to Brilliant is Graham doesn't have to know everything.

1373
01:39:03.480 --> 01:39:06.040
And they will. But he's the you know, he's the he's the founder.

1374
01:39:06.040 --> 01:39:08.200
He's the owner. And I said, yeah, he doesn't need to know everything.

1375
01:39:08.440 --> 01:39:12.760
He needs to know the important things that he needs to know to do his job.

1376
01:39:12.960 --> 01:39:15.960
And we need to be very transparent, make sure we are super quick.

1377
01:39:16.160 --> 01:39:18.040
So I promise, Graham, you'll never learn

1378
01:39:18.240 --> 01:39:21.360
of a major change in the business you didn't hear from me first.

1379
01:39:21.560 --> 01:39:27.000
And so in that in that mode to get to prime, we have to go through a different

1380
01:39:27.200 --> 01:39:32.320
process. So for some of you, you can say, well, what's the time period to do this?

1381
01:39:32.520 --> 01:39:38.120
Honestly, you can have a 40 year old company that's still in success mode.

1382
01:39:38.320 --> 01:39:41.840
You can have a 18 month company that's running in prime.

1383
01:39:42.040 --> 01:39:47.800
Prime is that place in the business where it can flourish without the founder.

1384
01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:52.560
If we took you out of your business, would it flourish?

1385
01:39:54.040 --> 01:39:58.400
That's what prime is now to do that, it means we have to go from you being

1386
01:39:58.600 --> 01:40:00.000
the leader to a team of.

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01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:05.480
leaders. And so as we go through that process of doing that, here's here's a

1388
01:40:05.480 --> 01:40:13.600
definition. So speed drops off as we get into complexity. So if we're simple, we

1389
01:40:13.600 --> 01:40:18.120
pick up speed. That's Jack Welch. Simplicity drives speed, right?

1390
01:40:18.160 --> 01:40:21.720
Self-confidence leads to simplicity drives speed, the three S's of Jack

1391
01:40:21.720 --> 01:40:28.000
Welch. And so the simpler you make your organization, the faster you'll go. And

1392
01:40:28.000 --> 01:40:32.440
what happens is, as the company grows, complexity comes in because and then we

1393
01:40:32.440 --> 01:40:36.160
bring in controls, we said we have to put people in their lane. So now there's

1394
01:40:36.240 --> 01:40:41.320
reports and connections, and there's a more structured environment control. And

1395
01:40:41.320 --> 01:40:45.600
so what happens is with control comes complexity. So the trick is to be right

1396
01:40:45.600 --> 01:40:50.120
here in the in the spot, because we, we know simplicity drives speed. And we know

1397
01:40:50.120 --> 01:40:53.600
that control drives complexity, what we're trying to do is hit that prime

1398
01:40:53.600 --> 01:40:58.840
spot right at the best trade off of those two things. So what we're trying to

1399
01:40:58.840 --> 01:41:04.560
do here is we're looking for the forcing function that gets us to prime, or at

1400
01:41:04.560 --> 01:41:10.160
least takes the next big step towards prime. So here are five forcing functions

1401
01:41:10.160 --> 01:41:16.920
that I've used. They can be event I explained brilliance 23, we create an

1402
01:41:16.920 --> 01:41:21.800
event, and oh, we need 18 months to prepare for the event. What if we had 18

1403
01:41:21.800 --> 01:41:28.200
days, that's a forcing function, it compresses the timeframe to feel almost

1404
01:41:28.200 --> 01:41:34.440
unrealistic and unattainable, it flushes out all the parts you don't need, it gets

1405
01:41:34.440 --> 01:41:39.320
to the core of what it is you do. And it helps you get down to the heart of the

1406
01:41:39.320 --> 01:41:45.760
matter quickly. To you can have a team forcing function, Ben, you just gave us

1407
01:41:45.760 --> 01:41:50.560
that example, right? And and I think maybe Mark, you're in the process of that.

1408
01:41:50.920 --> 01:41:55.400
When you move key team members around, you can end up creating a forcing

1409
01:41:55.400 --> 01:42:03.920
function. Then the next thing is product. You know, one of the things about

1410
01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:08.440
products are, I kept thinking of Robert Kawasaki, he was one of the founders or

1411
01:42:08.440 --> 01:42:12.120
one of the early employees of Apple. And he talked, you know, he talked one of his

1412
01:42:12.120 --> 01:42:16.480
lines were which we did in the train, we do the training and on the edge is, you

1413
01:42:16.480 --> 01:42:20.280
know, don't worry, be crappy, you know, go ahead and ship it, get it going, get the

1414
01:42:20.280 --> 01:42:23.920
first thin slice, get it out, find out if this will help the client. I mean, I

1415
01:42:23.920 --> 01:42:27.200
don't want to be so bad, the client doesn't love it. But his point is, we can

1416
01:42:27.200 --> 01:42:30.760
sit there and over engineer things forever. So what a forcing function is,

1417
01:42:30.760 --> 01:42:36.880
we have a release date on that day, right? And not like the CIO I once hired,

1418
01:42:36.880 --> 01:42:42.040
Glenn, you remember, we were on team, then we hired this guy, Vic Mazza, very smart

1419
01:42:42.040 --> 01:42:45.120
guy. I said, Vic, how are we doing? He says, we're two weeks, we're two weeks

1420
01:42:45.120 --> 01:42:47.920
from launch. I said, that's fantastic. When's the launch date? He said, I have no

1421
01:42:47.920 --> 01:42:52.120
idea. So, you know, you don't know, you know, I've always been two weeks away

1422
01:42:52.120 --> 01:42:56.200
from launch, you know, we're, we're one thing away, when we get that deal, then

1423
01:42:56.200 --> 01:42:59.840
when we get this, then. So what you have to do, you have to create a forcing

1424
01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:06.040
function. And the forcing function can also be around your overhead. Don't gear

1425
01:43:06.040 --> 01:43:14.520
up your overhead for the prophetic. Please do not gear up your overhead in

1426
01:43:14.520 --> 01:43:20.200
anticipation of the prophetic. Because as we talked before, there is a timeline

1427
01:43:20.200 --> 01:43:26.040
difference. And so you can gear up your overhead once the prophetic is

1428
01:43:26.040 --> 01:43:32.000
manifest, because you have no idea when you're going to rise to that point. So

1429
01:43:32.000 --> 01:43:34.960
now you're going to burn through all that extra cash while you're growing.

1430
01:43:34.960 --> 01:43:40.400
Don't, no need to put yourself there. Another forcing function is financing,

1431
01:43:40.440 --> 01:43:44.800
like restructuring your debt, restructuring your cap table, some of you

1432
01:43:45.080 --> 01:43:49.120
need to, you know, really relook at your capitalization table, what's what's

1433
01:43:49.120 --> 01:43:55.280
capitalization table, it's just your shareholders, your debt structures, how

1434
01:43:55.320 --> 01:43:59.720
how you're capitalized. And of course, you know, I've spent a lot of time in my

1435
01:43:59.720 --> 01:44:03.880
life career doing that stuff. But you can think about the forcing function. So

1436
01:44:03.880 --> 01:44:08.160
here's the question, some of you, it's time, one of the forcing functions is to

1437
01:44:08.160 --> 01:44:12.360
get the right, we've used this firefighter model before, do you have

1438
01:44:12.360 --> 01:44:15.680
the right people with their hands on the net? Think of this as your management

1439
01:44:15.680 --> 01:44:20.080
model, right? So do you have the right people at the net? Do you have the wrong

1440
01:44:20.080 --> 01:44:24.920
people on the net? Here's how you know. If you've got an overpowering person who

1441
01:44:24.920 --> 01:44:28.080
doesn't know how to be in team, they'll walk up to the net, and they'll just rip

1442
01:44:28.080 --> 01:44:31.160
it out of everybody's hands, because they are so powerful in their

1443
01:44:31.200 --> 01:44:37.960
presentation, then you have no net, the company will jump out of the window and

1444
01:44:37.960 --> 01:44:42.680
hit the tarmac. The other thing is there's no tension in the net. Everybody

1445
01:44:42.680 --> 01:44:47.800
so kumbaya that we're all just in agreement. So what happens is now we're

1446
01:44:47.800 --> 01:44:51.360
all standing in the middle all in in agreement, and now the nets on the floor,

1447
01:44:51.400 --> 01:44:56.120
that's the same as having no net. So in other words, there has to be tension. So

1448
01:44:56.120 --> 01:45:00.040
tension in your team says there's balance and something healthy is

1449
01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:03.680
happening. Overtension, when somebody walks in and

1450
01:45:03.680 --> 01:45:06.480
rips. So I will sometimes call people after a

1451
01:45:06.480 --> 01:45:09.760
meeting and say, why did you not pull your side of the net?

1452
01:45:09.760 --> 01:45:13.040
If you're on calls with Brilliant, sometimes they'll use that expression.

1453
01:45:13.040 --> 01:45:16.160
I'm not being difficult. I'm just pulling my side of the net.

1454
01:45:16.160 --> 01:45:20.160
And we expect tension. Yeah, I know we want to spend the money on that, but

1455
01:45:20.160 --> 01:45:25.040
maybe we should spend the money on this. I know that we think this is the

1456
01:45:25.040 --> 01:45:29.040
big important thing, but what about that? So when you introduce a forcing function,

1457
01:45:29.040 --> 01:45:32.480
you clear out all these tensions in your team.

1458
01:45:32.480 --> 01:45:37.920
Find out whose hand should be on the net, whose hand should not be on the net.

1459
01:45:37.920 --> 01:45:45.680
Okay, so that's, I hope that was helpful. Comments.

1460
01:45:47.440 --> 01:45:50.480
Yeah Dion, I was just saying that, oh I'm sorry, was someone

1461
01:45:50.480 --> 01:45:53.360
speaking? No, go ahead. I'm just trying to find you.

1462
01:45:53.360 --> 01:45:59.920
Oh yeah, I was just saying that there's tension in my team right now.

1463
01:45:59.920 --> 01:46:03.200
And it's good to go over this again, because sometimes,

1464
01:46:03.200 --> 01:46:07.040
not that I, you know, when you're dealing, like I don't know where they're at with

1465
01:46:07.040 --> 01:46:09.680
the Lord. I mean, I'm in a secular environment and it's right where the

1466
01:46:09.680 --> 01:46:13.680
Lord wants me to be, because it's that, that he's permeating the dough, you know,

1467
01:46:13.680 --> 01:46:18.640
like the kingdom, which is fine. So there's kind of, you know, I wouldn't

1468
01:46:18.640 --> 01:46:21.360
call them attitudes around that or anything, because the tension is the way

1469
01:46:21.360 --> 01:46:24.560
I see it, because I know the Lord's working in it.

1470
01:46:24.560 --> 01:46:30.160
But it's good to, to really see that from the, you know, from the kingdom

1471
01:46:30.160 --> 01:46:34.880
perspective, because then you can, it just, it just kicks out any

1472
01:46:34.880 --> 01:46:38.480
opportunity for the enemy to use offense in any form.

1473
01:46:38.480 --> 01:46:41.680
You know, when you know that the Lord's there and you've got that tension, you're

1474
01:46:41.680 --> 01:46:46.080
moving forward, your team's changing the way it's supposed to be. So

1475
01:46:46.080 --> 01:46:49.520
yeah. That's, thank you for sharing. I mean, I, we know

1476
01:46:49.520 --> 01:46:53.280
many of us are very strong and opinionated leaders. We maybe have a

1477
01:46:53.280 --> 01:46:56.080
forceful personality or a forceful way of

1478
01:46:56.080 --> 01:46:58.800
presenting something. We can rip the net out of people's hands

1479
01:46:58.800 --> 01:47:02.160
and then say, so what do you guys think? They don't have a net anymore, so they

1480
01:47:02.160 --> 01:47:05.760
don't say anything. And a lot of times companies, and this is,

1481
01:47:05.760 --> 01:47:08.720
I've seen this a lot, especially in bigger corporations, they say to the

1482
01:47:08.720 --> 01:47:11.280
employees, we want to hear what you really think.

1483
01:47:11.280 --> 01:47:14.560
And the first poor soul who happened to raise their hands and say what they

1484
01:47:14.560 --> 01:47:18.080
thought had their head handed to them. So they're like, we're not ever doing

1485
01:47:18.080 --> 01:47:22.080
that again, right? So what you've done is you've set up,

1486
01:47:22.080 --> 01:47:26.640
there's no net, there's just one person got the net. And that's a team with a

1487
01:47:26.640 --> 01:47:29.520
leader. So if you're going to create a team of

1488
01:47:29.520 --> 01:47:31.920
leaders, if you're going to lead a group of

1489
01:47:31.920 --> 01:47:36.960
leaders, that's a higher level function. And that shows a level of humility and

1490
01:47:36.960 --> 01:47:40.960
gentleness and grace that it takes to lead that.

1491
01:47:40.960 --> 01:47:43.920
Because you still have to give very clear direction. Yeah, we're still, I've

1492
01:47:43.920 --> 01:47:47.040
heard you all, we've made a decision, we're going here.

1493
01:47:47.040 --> 01:47:51.120
When everybody feels heard, you know what, I've learned a great deal,

1494
01:47:51.120 --> 01:47:54.560
and I think Bill Hybels once said this, he said, it's not that

1495
01:47:54.560 --> 01:47:58.400
everybody wants you to take their opinion,

1496
01:47:58.400 --> 01:48:01.040
what they just want to make sure is they have their day in court, that they were

1497
01:48:01.040 --> 01:48:03.440
heard. Even if you don't, you don't have to

1498
01:48:03.440 --> 01:48:06.240
agree with them, they just want to know you heard them.

1499
01:48:06.240 --> 01:48:09.840
And a lot of times, a lot of that over tension in the net

1500
01:48:09.840 --> 01:48:13.600
can be lessened by just taking a minute and listening

1501
01:48:13.600 --> 01:48:18.080
and asking. You seem very strong about this, tell me again, what am I missing?

1502
01:48:18.080 --> 01:48:21.680
And when they've talked it out, and then you make a decision, even if it's against

1503
01:48:21.680 --> 01:48:25.280
what they wanted, they'll come with you for the most part.

1504
01:48:25.280 --> 01:48:30.560
So I think, you know, those are the skills we're learning. Go ahead, Emily.

1505
01:48:30.560 --> 01:48:34.400
Yeah, and I'd like to, these people that I'm around right now, these

1506
01:48:34.400 --> 01:48:38.240
grace growers, some of them, you know, I don't know how

1507
01:48:38.240 --> 01:48:41.600
you guys handle like the whole not responding thing. For instance, it's

1508
01:48:41.600 --> 01:48:46.320
almost like they use like a, it's a,

1509
01:48:46.320 --> 01:48:49.920
ghosting. He's kind of, but not in a way,

1510
01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:53.840
it's almost like I'm a leader, so I don't have to respond to you. And I'm such a

1511
01:48:53.840 --> 01:48:58.240
communicator, where I'm like, I went into some degree, I mean, I get the

1512
01:48:58.240 --> 01:49:01.360
fact that, you know, you've got your different spaces and all that, but

1513
01:49:01.360 --> 01:49:04.640
I love what the Lord is doing, because it's not,

1514
01:49:04.640 --> 01:49:07.760
it doesn't bother me. I'm just, it's just

1515
01:49:07.760 --> 01:49:10.800
His fruit that He's got me in right now, that He's growing me in,

1516
01:49:10.880 --> 01:49:18.080
that helps add to the group, rather than, well, you know, I guess,

1517
01:49:18.080 --> 01:49:21.360
you know, they're not gonna respond or whatever,

1518
01:49:21.360 --> 01:49:26.720
but yeah, so it's a good opportunity for,

1519
01:49:27.680 --> 01:49:31.280
you know, growing in fruit in different levels of,

1520
01:49:31.280 --> 01:49:34.960
especially around, you know, vice presidents and

1521
01:49:34.960 --> 01:49:38.800
CFOs and whatnot, so.

1522
01:49:39.520 --> 01:49:43.680
If I was the chief strategic officer, which I,

1523
01:49:43.680 --> 01:49:47.440
you know, the Lord, I wouldn't do that. I don't know, is that like an executive

1524
01:49:47.440 --> 01:49:50.720
thing or something? I mean, what is that?

1525
01:49:50.720 --> 01:49:55.200
Basking in my own importance, or maybe just genuinely busy.

1526
01:49:55.200 --> 01:49:59.280
Yeah, let's, I want to state, let's keep Emily on the call, and let's bring in,

1527
01:49:59.280 --> 01:50:02.080
let's keep Emily.

1528
01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:05.600
Spotlighted, let's bring on Jenny and then Glenn, did you want to weigh in as well as him?

1529
01:50:07.200 --> 01:50:13.040
Yeah, Jenny. Yeah, I just want to say here because I've watched you do this so many times Dion

1530
01:50:13.040 --> 01:50:19.520
and I marvel at it because I see the outcome that he takes people through and it really

1531
01:50:19.520 --> 01:50:26.480
it is that conductor where he is conducting, you know, the orchestra and every person has felt

1532
01:50:26.480 --> 01:50:33.920
heard and then Emily, I've also heard Dion say, well first let me say because he does the

1533
01:50:33.920 --> 01:50:43.440
listening and he is gentle when he has what he will call his fatherly tone, we are all very much

1534
01:50:43.440 --> 01:50:49.920
at attention and follow through with it and no one, there's safety there because we have that

1535
01:50:49.920 --> 01:50:56.080
culture of trust and so we have followed, we've seen him in that gentleness and with that trust

1536
01:50:56.080 --> 01:51:03.760
and so to say that I've heard Dion on calls when people are not speaking up is like, come on guys,

1537
01:51:03.760 --> 01:51:09.760
we got to get this going and so to have that firmer tone that really does initiate the

1538
01:51:09.760 --> 01:51:16.560
conversation and initiate the discussion because what it is, is he's saying you're as much a part

1539
01:51:16.560 --> 01:51:23.040
of this as I am and so you need to participate in this and it really does require that people then

1540
01:51:23.040 --> 01:51:27.280
put their hands on the net and it does it immediately, it instigates the conversation.

1541
01:51:28.480 --> 01:51:29.520
Thank you, Jenny. Glenn?

1542
01:51:32.240 --> 01:51:35.520
Yeah, we could spend a while on this one and unpack it but

1543
01:51:37.520 --> 01:51:42.720
there's a couple of thoughts that come to mind. I had one situation, Emily, that triggered the

1544
01:51:42.720 --> 01:51:50.000
thought was an organization I was with was a big organization and we had some of that dynamic and

1545
01:51:50.000 --> 01:51:54.880
I had one situation where it was actually the leaders that were not actually engaging a whole

1546
01:51:54.880 --> 01:52:02.480
lot and I had an opportunity one time, I was having a conversation with one of these partners and

1547
01:52:04.000 --> 01:52:12.720
I said, Andy, what I really appreciate about you is I don't feel micromanaged by you

1548
01:52:12.720 --> 01:52:19.280
but I do trust that when there's something that you want to bring to my attention that you'll

1549
01:52:19.280 --> 01:52:24.720
pick up the phone and you'll call me and you'll talk to me or someone like that and I could see

1550
01:52:24.720 --> 01:52:29.360
in his mind that he hadn't thought about it perhaps that way but I said, Andy, I'm just

1551
01:52:29.360 --> 01:52:35.680
trusting you, I'm going down this path, this is what I'm doing but I trust you that you will

1552
01:52:36.560 --> 01:52:41.840
bring any course correction or steer to me that I need to hear from you and that did a couple of

1553
01:52:41.840 --> 01:52:50.240
things, it gave him permission but also brought about an awareness that perhaps he

1554
01:52:50.240 --> 01:52:56.240
wasn't really perhaps giving the direction that otherwise and so then that also then sort of

1555
01:52:56.240 --> 01:53:00.160
also gave me a little bit of protection because if I did go off on a course that he wasn't happy with

1556
01:53:00.960 --> 01:53:07.920
he had it so anyway that was just one thought that came to mind in what you were saying.

1557
01:53:07.920 --> 01:53:12.560
No, that's wonderful, Glenn, because I've had that exact same experience where I said the same

1558
01:53:12.560 --> 01:53:16.080
thing to one of the leaders and said, hey, if there's anything, you know, just let me know,

1559
01:53:16.080 --> 01:53:26.320
I trust you, I mean almost to the verbatim but, you know, I thank you for giving those pointers

1560
01:53:26.320 --> 01:53:30.560
because, you know, sometimes you and it could be their own thing but I don't think she was

1561
01:53:30.560 --> 01:53:37.440
thinking about it either so. Yeah and that's been my experience many times, it's not intentional,

1562
01:53:37.520 --> 01:53:45.040
it's just they have a mode of operating and they just don't actually understand that we may feel

1563
01:53:45.040 --> 01:53:52.000
a little bit of a vacuum in their guidance or their leadership and, you know, I found the best

1564
01:53:52.000 --> 01:53:57.440
way to do it is say, well, this is the direction I'm going and invite that feedback, you know,

1565
01:53:57.440 --> 01:54:02.160
and there's one other little other thing that I developed with the team over time and this

1566
01:54:02.240 --> 01:54:07.280
actually applied more with clients but even within our own team and we introduced this thing called

1567
01:54:07.280 --> 01:54:14.960
Bing Bing and this may be this topic for another time to unpack a little bit but the point was

1568
01:54:14.960 --> 01:54:23.840
with these little touch points with key people that I had on regular occasions and the point

1569
01:54:23.840 --> 01:54:29.600
was just checking in, right, and we found that that actually almost like static discharge and

1570
01:54:30.000 --> 01:54:35.440
you just reduce the because there's what I found and discovered with clients in particular is

1571
01:54:35.440 --> 01:54:38.880
everything seems to be going great and then suddenly something blows up and think, well,

1572
01:54:38.880 --> 01:54:43.600
what the heck happened here? I mean, everything seemed to be good but what was happening there

1573
01:54:43.600 --> 01:54:47.920
was this incremental static build-up over time, little frustrations, little frustrations, little

1574
01:54:47.920 --> 01:54:53.840
frustrations and I realized that by putting this sort of Bing Bing mechanism, this little

1575
01:54:53.840 --> 01:54:59.760
mechanism for just discharging, just checking in, it actually bought us so much time down the line.

1576
01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:04.320
we didn't end up having to do firefighting and damage control and all sorts of things.

1577
01:55:04.320 --> 01:55:13.200
And so that little thing actually just created a degree of peace and harmony over time, you know.

1578
01:55:14.480 --> 01:55:19.600
Yeah, that's really good, Glenn. So I want to weigh in on that for a second, because Glenn,

1579
01:55:19.600 --> 01:55:24.560
I love what you said. And anyway, I love what you're in the problems you're solving. And being

1580
01:55:24.560 --> 01:55:31.600
that touch point, being the ignition point for the kingdom, I think yeast maybe was the

1581
01:55:31.600 --> 01:55:36.000
illustration you used. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So Miles Monroe, I don't know. I don't know where I feel

1582
01:55:36.000 --> 01:55:42.000
like the Lord is just like, I want you to dive in with Miles. So like, I've been saturated,

1583
01:55:42.000 --> 01:55:47.760
and he was really key on the yeast being the permeate for the dough in the world. And it,

1584
01:55:47.760 --> 01:55:52.640
you know, he said, he's so funny, because he used the analogy that yeast packets together

1585
01:55:52.880 --> 01:55:57.200
don't do anything. So you can see that as all of us being together, but it's when we start going

1586
01:55:57.200 --> 01:56:02.000
out into the world, and permeating the dough, that's when the kingdom, you know, and then we

1587
01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:08.800
multiply and things like that. But I just, man, I've just been taken to a whole different level

1588
01:56:08.800 --> 01:56:15.760
with Miles in the kingdom business perspective. So, yeah. Yeah, no, I love that. Yeast packets

1589
01:56:15.760 --> 01:56:22.160
together do nothing. I love that. So that's, that's classic Miles. We love Miles. Let's weigh

1590
01:56:22.160 --> 01:56:27.840
on two things. If you're listening to this, and you are the leader, hear what this conversation,

1591
01:56:27.840 --> 01:56:32.320
you may be tempted to turn out the conversation. Well, I don't, I'm not trying to report, you know,

1592
01:56:32.320 --> 01:56:40.560
I don't report up to anyone. Be aware of your, the phrase Andy Stanley would use is manage your

1593
01:56:40.560 --> 01:56:49.200
power. Sometimes you don't realize your silence can be very loud. Your delay in response to

1594
01:56:49.200 --> 01:56:55.280
something can be very, very loud. And you'll end up, it's like a pyramid of problems. If you respond

1595
01:56:55.280 --> 01:56:59.760
now, you're going to have a small period, the longer you wait, the more this thing just gets

1596
01:56:59.760 --> 01:57:05.840
alive. So don't leave it to your team's imagination. By the way, it's not a sign of their weakness.

1597
01:57:06.800 --> 01:57:12.080
It's just an intentional thing you can, you can do. The second thing I want to bring up what,

1598
01:57:12.080 --> 01:57:18.640
what Glenn said, the first step to fixing anything in leadership is to create self-awareness.

1599
01:57:19.360 --> 01:57:24.400
That is the first step. If you want to reduce, you know, all the studies of 30 something years

1600
01:57:24.400 --> 01:57:29.520
that I've been doing around leadership and formally studying even the PhD thing and all that,

1601
01:57:29.520 --> 01:57:34.400
it all came down to this one thing. Self-awareness solves probably 80% of leadership problems,

1602
01:57:34.480 --> 01:57:39.280
up and down. Sometimes going to a team member and saying, are you aware that you do this?

1603
01:57:39.280 --> 01:57:44.480
Are you aware going to your, your, your leader, you have to do it in a more respectful way,

1604
01:57:44.480 --> 01:57:50.080
but you can still. So the way what Glenn was doing there was he was creating self-awareness

1605
01:57:50.080 --> 01:57:56.640
in such a respectful way. And he, he found a way to authentically position it as trust.

1606
01:57:57.200 --> 01:58:02.080
I trust you. So therefore I'm going to do this. And if I go off the rails,

1607
01:58:02.080 --> 01:58:05.200
that leader can't go and say, you know, that Glenn, he never listens

1608
01:58:05.200 --> 01:58:12.160
because you've set him up a bit, but you made him aware that was his responsibility.

1609
01:58:12.160 --> 01:58:17.680
So what you can do is you can set up default arrangements. So if I send you an email,

1610
01:58:18.400 --> 01:58:22.640
you know, Hey Glenn, I report to you. I send you an email. If you do not respond,

1611
01:58:22.640 --> 01:58:27.840
what I'm going to assume, I'm going to assume the golden rule that silence is golden, right?

1612
01:58:27.840 --> 01:58:32.800
So if it's, if it's quiet, it's all good because you'll, I know you're really busy.

1613
01:58:32.800 --> 01:58:39.360
So if I can serve you in that way, by you not even having to respond because you're good with it,

1614
01:58:40.080 --> 01:58:48.000
I will wait 24 hours and then execute. And so notice the three things I was doing there.

1615
01:58:48.000 --> 01:58:54.160
Not only did I get him to own it, I put him on a timeframe, but I also served him and he goes,

1616
01:58:54.160 --> 01:58:59.120
wow, you would do that? Yeah, I would do that. And if, if you don't have time to talk to me,

1617
01:58:59.120 --> 01:59:04.480
and yet you want to just, just send me a note to say, hold it or let's talk,

1618
01:59:04.480 --> 01:59:10.320
just send me a let's talk note. And I will, I'll put that on hold. So when you're the leader,

1619
01:59:10.320 --> 01:59:16.640
be aware of how loud you can be, you know, Andy Stanley tells a story. So if you don't know,

1620
01:59:16.640 --> 01:59:20.720
Andy Stanley is, they run a big church called North Point Church here in Atlanta,

1621
01:59:20.720 --> 01:59:26.320
and North Point has many campuses. And I think, and then they have a lot of affiliate campuses,

1622
01:59:26.320 --> 01:59:31.760
which are getting around 85 campuses now across the country. Andy ministers to over 3 million

1623
01:59:31.760 --> 01:59:37.280
people a month. Okay, so that's Andy, has a big staff, 300 people. And so they wanted to fix

1624
01:59:37.280 --> 01:59:41.280
something in the staff meeting. And he said, no problem, I'll just send out an email. And his

1625
01:59:41.280 --> 01:59:46.640
executive assistant just about fell off her chair. And she said, no, you will not. He says, no big

1626
01:59:46.640 --> 01:59:51.680
deal. You're busy. I'll just send out the email. And she said, Andy, do you know how loud that will

1627
01:59:51.680 --> 01:59:58.160
be if it comes from you? That will be so loud. Now, we don't think of ourselves, especially in

1628
01:59:58.160 --> 01:59:59.920
small organizations,

1629
02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:03.640
We don't think of ourselves and our impact on people.

1630
02:00:03.640 --> 02:00:05.680
Just be really aware,

1631
02:00:05.680 --> 02:00:08.080
especially if your team genuinely love you

1632
02:00:08.080 --> 02:00:09.800
and respect you and wanna be with you,

1633
02:00:09.800 --> 02:00:12.600
just how loud that can be.

1634
02:00:12.600 --> 02:00:14.840
So mark to your deal where you start off

1635
02:00:14.840 --> 02:00:16.680
in the beginning of the call,

1636
02:00:16.680 --> 02:00:18.240
maybe you get some key employees

1637
02:00:18.240 --> 02:00:21.240
that are part of the hiring process.

1638
02:00:21.240 --> 02:00:24.560
So next time, involve them, right?

1639
02:00:24.560 --> 02:00:26.280
So that's always the thing.

1640
02:00:26.280 --> 02:00:28.520
I pull all the people that person's gonna work with

1641
02:00:28.560 --> 02:00:31.760
and I say, and then what I say to our team is,

1642
02:00:31.760 --> 02:00:36.200
tell them what you wish you knew before you worked here,

1643
02:00:36.200 --> 02:00:37.960
anything you wanna say.

1644
02:00:37.960 --> 02:00:39.680
Because the new person coming in,

1645
02:00:39.680 --> 02:00:41.840
not only says, wow, that's transparent,

1646
02:00:41.840 --> 02:00:43.160
but the person also comes and says,

1647
02:00:43.160 --> 02:00:45.680
I'm gonna be really clearly measured here.

1648
02:00:45.680 --> 02:00:47.400
This is not gonna be,

1649
02:00:47.400 --> 02:00:50.520
I come in and some authoritarian deal.

1650
02:00:50.520 --> 02:00:55.520
So we can disciple, train, educate and influence

1651
02:00:56.480 --> 02:00:58.400
those who are above us,

1652
02:00:59.160 --> 02:01:01.240
even if they're not necessarily believers.

1653
02:01:01.240 --> 02:01:04.360
So that's the yeast point that Emily was raising.

1654
02:01:04.360 --> 02:01:06.240
That's where we cause the dough to rise.

1655
02:01:06.240 --> 02:01:07.840
That's what shifts the atmosphere

1656
02:01:07.840 --> 02:01:09.240
is the gentleness and kindness,

1657
02:01:09.240 --> 02:01:12.280
yet clarity without backing off.

1658
02:01:12.280 --> 02:01:13.120
Does that help?

1659
02:01:15.080 --> 02:01:16.760
Okay.

1660
02:01:16.760 --> 02:01:19.080
So we'll try to respond to the specific things.

1661
02:01:19.080 --> 02:01:20.280
Anybody wanna weigh in

1662
02:01:20.280 --> 02:01:22.440
before we jump into the exercise here?

1663
02:01:22.440 --> 02:01:24.600
Let me give you a shot to talk.

1664
02:01:24.600 --> 02:01:25.720
How are we doing?

1665
02:01:25.720 --> 02:01:26.840
If you need a break, by the way,

1666
02:01:26.840 --> 02:01:27.720
and it's a long session,

1667
02:01:27.720 --> 02:01:30.400
just go off and come back as needed.

1668
02:01:30.400 --> 02:01:31.240
Just do your thing.

1669
02:01:31.240 --> 02:01:33.320
So we can take a second.

1670
02:01:33.320 --> 02:01:35.880
If you need to stretch, get some coffee or whatever,

1671
02:01:35.880 --> 02:01:36.800
do your thing.

1672
02:01:38.600 --> 02:01:41.760
And while we're waiting for people,

1673
02:01:41.760 --> 02:01:45.880
any thoughts that from all that we've been doing,

1674
02:01:45.880 --> 02:01:47.440
what's standing out to you right now

1675
02:01:47.440 --> 02:01:48.440
that you're saying, man,

1676
02:01:48.440 --> 02:01:52.880
this is something I wanna go and talk to the Lord about or?

1677
02:01:53.880 --> 02:01:56.480
Yeah, I love this conversation.

1678
02:01:56.480 --> 02:01:58.040
And this is a perfect time.

1679
02:01:58.040 --> 02:02:02.720
We have eight new people on our team as of this year.

1680
02:02:02.720 --> 02:02:07.720
And so I binge watched everything in the training

1681
02:02:08.720 --> 02:02:09.960
to know how to,

1682
02:02:09.960 --> 02:02:13.720
cause I took it with you a year, whatever, two ago,

1683
02:02:13.720 --> 02:02:16.360
and then rewatched all the videos again

1684
02:02:16.360 --> 02:02:19.440
in preparation for this new team in January.

1685
02:02:19.480 --> 02:02:23.880
And I am, I'm leveling this now,

1686
02:02:23.880 --> 02:02:26.920
because again, we're bringing back on the,

1687
02:02:26.920 --> 02:02:29.080
who was the president, we're bringing her back in.

1688
02:02:29.080 --> 02:02:30.400
So we have a culture in place

1689
02:02:30.400 --> 02:02:32.520
that's different than the culture she had.

1690
02:02:32.520 --> 02:02:36.200
So it's been really interesting.

1691
02:02:36.200 --> 02:02:41.160
You made the comment about how powerful your voice is.

1692
02:02:41.160 --> 02:02:43.920
And I'm noticing that in my new people,

1693
02:02:43.920 --> 02:02:46.640
if I say something, they're like,

1694
02:02:47.640 --> 02:02:49.960
it has so much weight.

1695
02:02:49.960 --> 02:02:53.000
And I have not given myself the,

1696
02:02:54.560 --> 02:02:57.040
I don't know, the proper perspective of that.

1697
02:02:57.040 --> 02:02:59.880
So this is a perfect conversation for today

1698
02:02:59.880 --> 02:03:02.880
because I'm watching how I say something

1699
02:03:02.880 --> 02:03:06.160
that I consider simple and direct and whatever,

1700
02:03:06.160 --> 02:03:10.280
and they're just taking it like it is written law.

1701
02:03:10.280 --> 02:03:13.040
And I have to be kind of careful what I'm saying

1702
02:03:13.040 --> 02:03:15.920
in directing how they're moving forward

1703
02:03:16.000 --> 02:03:17.200
and what they're doing.

1704
02:03:17.200 --> 02:03:21.280
So, yeah, I wasn't aware of that.

1705
02:03:22.280 --> 02:03:25.720
This is such an interesting topic, Tamara.

1706
02:03:25.720 --> 02:03:28.080
I know Graham won't mind me sharing this,

1707
02:03:28.080 --> 02:03:32.120
but when I first started working at Brilliant,

1708
02:03:33.160 --> 02:03:34.600
it was something Graham would say

1709
02:03:34.600 --> 02:03:35.880
what it was on his mind.

1710
02:03:37.000 --> 02:03:40.320
And for a prophet who's a very seasoned prophet

1711
02:03:40.320 --> 02:03:41.640
and knows how to be gentle

1712
02:03:41.640 --> 02:03:43.600
and not get ahead of the Lord and so on,

1713
02:03:43.640 --> 02:03:46.440
he just thought he was just giving his opinion.

1714
02:03:46.440 --> 02:03:48.320
Everybody was weighing in,

1715
02:03:48.320 --> 02:03:51.560
but not all voices have the same weight.

1716
02:03:51.560 --> 02:03:54.360
So I'd be teeing up.

1717
02:03:54.360 --> 02:03:56.600
I think, Glenn, you were in on the training.

1718
02:03:56.600 --> 02:03:59.000
Certainly, Jenny, you'll remember this.

1719
02:03:59.000 --> 02:04:00.760
We were doing this training,

1720
02:04:00.760 --> 02:04:02.440
this three-day training at Brilliant,

1721
02:04:02.440 --> 02:04:03.840
because one of the first things I introduced

1722
02:04:03.840 --> 02:04:06.640
was weekly training, and then we do these training.

1723
02:04:06.640 --> 02:04:09.440
And we like hit the pinnacle of the ta-da moment

1724
02:04:09.440 --> 02:04:11.560
where, okay, now we're gonna land the plane.

1725
02:04:11.560 --> 02:04:13.040
And Graham just made this comment.

1726
02:04:13.600 --> 02:04:15.080
He was just saying what he was thinking,

1727
02:04:15.080 --> 02:04:19.800
and it crashed the entire training.

1728
02:04:19.800 --> 02:04:24.320
And there was not a stitch of malice in his heart at all.

1729
02:04:24.320 --> 02:04:26.080
It was just saying what he thought.

1730
02:04:26.080 --> 02:04:27.840
And he was like, oh, cool,

1731
02:04:27.840 --> 02:04:29.000
we all get to say what we think.

1732
02:04:29.000 --> 02:04:30.240
No, not you.

1733
02:04:30.240 --> 02:04:33.080
The rest get to say what they think.

1734
02:04:33.080 --> 02:04:35.360
And it is a fun thing.

1735
02:04:35.360 --> 02:04:36.520
And I talked to him afterwards,

1736
02:04:36.520 --> 02:04:39.600
and he looked at me genuinely bewildered.

1737
02:04:39.600 --> 02:04:41.880
Okay, so what caused that?

1738
02:04:41.880 --> 02:04:42.720
Humility.

1739
02:04:43.720 --> 02:04:44.680
You say, hang on a second,

1740
02:04:44.680 --> 02:04:45.920
didn't we just say we have to be humble?

1741
02:04:45.920 --> 02:04:50.640
Yeah, but be aware humility makes you blind to your power.

1742
02:04:50.640 --> 02:04:51.840
Just be aware.

1743
02:04:51.840 --> 02:04:54.840
So, you know, not that you have to puff yourself up,

1744
02:04:54.840 --> 02:04:57.920
but just be aware that that's the effect of humility,

1745
02:04:57.920 --> 02:05:00.080
because you can be so humble and not think.

1746
02:05:00.000 --> 02:05:05.200
more highly of yourself and say stuff that just derail the whole team.

1747
02:05:06.320 --> 02:05:07.520
You didn't mean that.

1748
02:05:07.520 --> 02:05:12.560
So it's it's what we call throwing grenades, self-sabotage.

1749
02:05:13.600 --> 02:05:16.600
We sabotage our own planning, our own culture.

1750
02:05:17.320 --> 02:05:20.440
We don't mean it because that's the noise in our heads.

1751
02:05:21.080 --> 02:05:23.480
That's how we speak to ourselves.

1752
02:05:24.080 --> 02:05:28.640
So it I'm amazed

1753
02:05:28.640 --> 02:05:32.240
how how Graham has how Graham took to that,

1754
02:05:33.480 --> 02:05:36.760
you know, because nobody had mentioned that to him before.

1755
02:05:38.400 --> 02:05:40.400
Great point, though.

1756
02:05:41.520 --> 02:05:43.920
OK, well, as you know, in this session, we've been

1757
02:05:44.280 --> 02:05:48.680
what we try to do on these calls is to try to be as transparent as possible

1758
02:05:48.680 --> 02:05:52.560
so you can see not just the point we're making, but how we learned it

1759
02:05:52.560 --> 02:05:54.800
and the stories that led up to it.

1760
02:05:55.600 --> 02:05:57.480
I hope that was helpful. OK.

1761
02:05:57.480 --> 02:05:59.600
So do you want to pick a forcing function?

1762
02:06:00.480 --> 02:06:03.080
If you could pick a forcing function, I know you haven't chatted the Lord

1763
02:06:03.080 --> 02:06:04.680
and you haven't had much time and so on.

1764
02:06:04.680 --> 02:06:07.880
But what's what does what strikes you right now

1765
02:06:08.680 --> 02:06:11.200
of a forcing function

1766
02:06:11.200 --> 02:06:14.560
that could compress the learning of your team or your own learning?

1767
02:06:14.560 --> 02:06:16.840
If you're a solopreneur, you know, if you if you are,

1768
02:06:17.440 --> 02:06:20.880
if you could compress this, what would be?

1769
02:06:22.720 --> 02:06:25.480
What would be the forcing function you would look to?

1770
02:06:28.400 --> 02:06:31.480
So, yeah, so if you could find your forcing function, write it down,

1771
02:06:31.480 --> 02:06:33.800
then I'm going to see if we've got enough. I think we're still

1772
02:06:34.800 --> 02:06:37.800
we're still small enough as a group to everybody can share.

1773
02:06:39.000 --> 02:06:41.160
So why don't I do this while you write that down?

1774
02:06:41.160 --> 02:06:45.240
I'm going to those who want to take a break on if you want to turn off

1775
02:06:45.240 --> 02:06:48.760
your camera or whatever and just give yourself a minute to think, do all that.

1776
02:06:48.760 --> 02:06:50.520
And let's get back in, say,

1777
02:06:52.480 --> 02:06:54.480
three fifteen Eastern.

1778
02:06:54.480 --> 02:06:56.400
Three fifteen Eastern.

1779
02:06:57.800 --> 02:06:58.960
Back in eight minutes.

1780
02:10:00.000 --> 02:10:02.060
you

1781
02:10:30.000 --> 02:10:32.060
you

1782
02:11:00.000 --> 02:11:02.060
you

1783
02:11:30.000 --> 02:11:32.060
you

1784
02:12:00.000 --> 02:12:02.060
you

1785
02:12:30.000 --> 02:12:32.700
you

1786
02:13:00.000 --> 02:13:02.980
test test test test test

1787
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test test test test test test

1788
02:14:00.000 --> 02:14:02.000
test test test test test test

1789
02:14:30.000 --> 02:14:32.000
test test test test test test test

1790
02:15:00.000 --> 02:15:03.000
How are you guys doing?

1791
02:15:03.000 --> 02:15:07.000
All right.

1792
02:15:07.000 --> 02:15:09.000
Let me kick it off with Bridget.

1793
02:15:09.000 --> 02:15:11.000
And by the way, Bridget, there's a couple of people,

1794
02:15:11.000 --> 02:15:14.000
I'm not sure everybody knows exactly what it is you do,

1795
02:15:14.000 --> 02:15:18.000
so why don't you, you're not just here as one of the owners of the company,

1796
02:15:18.000 --> 02:15:21.000
but you all see a different capacity.

1797
02:15:21.000 --> 02:15:22.000
Sure.

1798
02:15:22.000 --> 02:15:25.000
I am helping lead the church with Dion,

1799
02:15:25.000 --> 02:15:30.000
and my primary function is working on the community aspect of it.

1800
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I also manage coaching for parenting and empty nesters.

1801
02:15:35.000 --> 02:15:39.000
And so we started the church last year in May 1st, 2023,

1802
02:15:39.000 --> 02:15:41.000
as you heard from Dion.

1803
02:15:41.000 --> 02:15:44.000
But around about September, October,

1804
02:15:44.000 --> 02:15:48.000
we realized that although the people were enjoying being in the community

1805
02:15:48.000 --> 02:15:49.000
with everybody else,

1806
02:15:49.000 --> 02:15:54.000
once a month wasn't quite enough to practice that community style.

1807
02:15:54.000 --> 02:15:58.000
So we took a radical decision of starting small groups.

1808
02:15:58.000 --> 02:16:03.000
And we had thought that some of them may be in person, but as it happened,

1809
02:16:03.000 --> 02:16:05.000
everybody met online through Zoom.

1810
02:16:05.000 --> 02:16:08.000
And it was quite a radical shift.

1811
02:16:08.000 --> 02:16:11.000
So we got a curriculum that we already had on food of the spirit.

1812
02:16:11.000 --> 02:16:16.000
We got that to span over 12 weeks and we took the huge step of faith of

1813
02:16:16.000 --> 02:16:19.000
asking who would like to be facilitators.

1814
02:16:19.000 --> 02:16:21.000
And what we did though,

1815
02:16:21.000 --> 02:16:23.000
we were careful because we wanted to protect our members.

1816
02:16:23.000 --> 02:16:26.000
We called them facilitators in particular.

1817
02:16:26.000 --> 02:16:28.000
So they knew they were not going to have to teach.

1818
02:16:28.000 --> 02:16:31.000
We already had the curriculum and they were not counselors.

1819
02:16:31.000 --> 02:16:34.000
So all they had to really do was facilitate the discussion.

1820
02:16:34.000 --> 02:16:38.000
So we did a training in November and some in December and in January,

1821
02:16:38.000 --> 02:16:40.000
we started the groups.

1822
02:16:40.000 --> 02:16:45.000
And it was a bit of a bumpy start with technology, but we came up with,

1823
02:16:45.000 --> 02:16:49.000
we ended up with 43 groups across the country and several across other

1824
02:16:50.000 --> 02:16:53.000
countries as well, New Zealand, Australia, and one in Europe.

1825
02:16:53.000 --> 02:16:56.000
So we took a, it was pretty radical,

1826
02:16:56.000 --> 02:16:58.000
but we realized that we quickly needed the people to get,

1827
02:16:58.000 --> 02:17:01.000
to feel as if they're part of something bigger,

1828
02:17:01.000 --> 02:17:03.000
but also they could actually have community.

1829
02:17:03.000 --> 02:17:07.000
And that really did force us to get that, you know,

1830
02:17:07.000 --> 02:17:11.000
being very specific about what we meant in community and people being

1831
02:17:11.000 --> 02:17:15.000
surrounded by people who had the same language and they felt like they'd

1832
02:17:15.000 --> 02:17:16.000
found their tribe.

1833
02:17:16.000 --> 02:17:18.000
So it was a significant push for us.

1834
02:17:18.000 --> 02:17:21.000
So in what way did launching the small groups feel like a forcing

1835
02:17:21.000 --> 02:17:22.000
function?

1836
02:17:22.000 --> 02:17:23.000
Well,

1837
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I think it was pretty radical to go from being in the church only six or

1838
02:17:27.000 --> 02:17:29.000
seven months to quickly going into small groups,

1839
02:17:29.000 --> 02:17:31.000
which was another level of organization.

1840
02:17:31.000 --> 02:17:34.000
But the Lord had told us when Dion and I started back in,

1841
02:17:34.000 --> 02:17:36.000
even back in March, February, March,

1842
02:17:36.000 --> 02:17:37.000
when we were talking about the church,

1843
02:17:37.000 --> 02:17:40.000
the Lord said he'll bring the right people to us at the right time.

1844
02:17:40.000 --> 02:17:43.000
And one of the people that all brought to us very quickly was God.

1845
02:17:43.000 --> 02:17:47.000
And one of the people that all brought to us very quickly was Paul who had

1846
02:17:47.000 --> 02:17:51.000
run this kind of small groups online in a different organization.

1847
02:17:51.000 --> 02:17:56.000
So he came alongside us and it forced us to get into the simplicity of how

1848
02:17:56.000 --> 02:17:59.000
to actually implement something where people are going to connect,

1849
02:17:59.000 --> 02:18:01.000
not just once a month on a big zoom call,

1850
02:18:01.000 --> 02:18:03.000
but actually independently in little groups.

1851
02:18:04.000 --> 02:18:08.000
What I like about that particular forcing function was one,

1852
02:18:08.000 --> 02:18:13.000
it forced us to be open to having new people join as volunteers.

1853
02:18:13.000 --> 02:18:13.000


1854
02:18:13.000 --> 02:18:17.000
it forced us to trust people and trust the Lord specifically with people and

1855
02:18:17.000 --> 02:18:18.000
people with the Lord.

1856
02:18:18.000 --> 02:18:20.000
And three,

1857
02:18:20.000 --> 02:18:25.000
it forced us to put a curriculum together that could be used in a way that

1858
02:18:25.000 --> 02:18:26.000
would really bless.

1859
02:18:26.000 --> 02:18:30.000
And so it forced us to learn how can we really serve the members of the

1860
02:18:30.000 --> 02:18:31.000
church.

1861
02:18:31.000 --> 02:18:31.000


1862
02:18:31.000 --> 02:18:32.000
yeah,

1863
02:18:32.000 --> 02:18:33.000
thank you.

1864
02:18:33.000 --> 02:18:35.000
Thank you for sharing that.

1865
02:18:35.000 --> 02:18:36.000
Let's,

1866
02:18:37.000 --> 02:18:38.000
let's open it up to,

1867
02:18:38.000 --> 02:18:40.000
to I'd love as many of you,

1868
02:18:40.000 --> 02:18:44.000
if not all of you to share about what you feel is your forcing function that

1869
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go for it.

1870
02:18:45.000 --> 02:18:46.000
Ray.

1871
02:18:52.000 --> 02:18:53.000
I can't hear you,

1872
02:18:53.000 --> 02:18:54.000
but I'm reading you now.

1873
02:19:06.000 --> 02:19:08.000
Okay.

1874
02:19:36.000 --> 02:19:38.000
Okay.

1875
02:21:00.000 --> 02:21:20.840
Wow that's very powerful and radical but somehow seems to suit you so that's

1876
02:21:20.840 --> 02:21:25.560
fantastic but I you know you're raising an interesting point that's that you're

1877
02:21:25.560 --> 02:21:34.040
raising Ray is that you know the Lord uses everything to our benefit we know

1878
02:21:34.040 --> 02:21:38.840
all things work together but when we map that downstairs what that means is the

1879
02:21:38.840 --> 02:21:44.100
very thing the enemy tried to manipulate and used to take you out is the very

1880
02:21:44.100 --> 02:21:50.080
thing God will use to give you territory and bless you so and I think you do get

1881
02:21:50.080 --> 02:21:54.360
to a level where these forcing functions start to happen almost simultaneously if

1882
02:21:54.360 --> 02:21:59.240
not simultaneously because especially as your team grows as your effects grow the

1883
02:21:59.240 --> 02:22:03.960
effect of the forcing functions are so much more scaled up and affect so many

1884
02:22:03.960 --> 02:22:09.640
more people and so you have to make the adjustments quicker and faster so I do

1885
02:22:09.640 --> 02:22:18.600
think that's that's fantastic so yeah thanks for sharing okay so weird that I

1886
02:22:18.600 --> 02:22:25.200
can't hear you but there you go we appreciate it we'll go from Robin and

1887
02:22:25.200 --> 02:22:30.480
then we'll see who else wants to share

1888
02:22:36.720 --> 02:22:43.800
there can you hear me now I can yeah we got you all right I have a couple one

1889
02:22:43.800 --> 02:22:50.280
personal forcing function I'm getting older and I used to be able to go out on

1890
02:22:50.280 --> 02:22:56.160
the job site and finish concrete build houses and and you know now that I have

1891
02:22:56.160 --> 02:23:02.000
three bulging discs I can't do that anymore that was definitely for me

1892
02:23:02.000 --> 02:23:08.480
personally a forcing function that moved me into a different role and and then

1893
02:23:08.480 --> 02:23:13.720
for those of you that don't know we have been doing remote inspections for tiny

1894
02:23:13.760 --> 02:23:19.480
houses on wheels for well since 2016 and we were trying to get in we are trying

1895
02:23:19.480 --> 02:23:27.760
to get into the mainstream inspection of commercial and residential construction

1896
02:23:27.760 --> 02:23:35.120
so what came to my mind as a forcing function I was at an event in Orlando

1897
02:23:35.120 --> 02:23:39.920
of the International Code Council and one of the building code officials from

1898
02:23:39.920 --> 02:23:46.040
Washington State we were chatting and he said you know he's got a new

1899
02:23:46.040 --> 02:23:50.680
designation usually when you do an inspection you write on the job card

1900
02:23:50.680 --> 02:24:00.280
either pass fail or I think there's one more thing you can help me with rich

1901
02:24:00.280 --> 02:24:04.960
because you do that thing but anyways it's you either pass or you fail or you

1902
02:24:04.960 --> 02:24:11.600
have to do some revisions to to pass and he had a new one which was he said

1903
02:24:11.600 --> 02:24:19.360
it was ni it was and I stand for he said not inspected and he said we have been

1904
02:24:19.360 --> 02:24:26.800
you know understaffed and our jurisdiction our commissioners mandated

1905
02:24:26.800 --> 02:24:31.720
that we have to get to an inspection within three days or the contractor can

1906
02:24:31.720 --> 02:24:38.040
move on and so now he's had to write on the job card and up and I said how many

1907
02:24:38.040 --> 02:24:44.440
of those do you do oh he said thousands and all of a sudden my brain was like

1908
02:24:44.440 --> 02:24:53.360
going crazy and and so I haven't figured out how to how to use this because what

1909
02:24:53.360 --> 02:24:59.240
we've been trying to do is fit into the existing mold of remote of private

1910
02:25:00.000 --> 02:25:15.840
You know, which is in person most of the time and there's a lot, there's modular inspections and there's private providers and we've been trying to fit that mold with the right amount of engineers, the right amount of license inspectors and all of that.

1911
02:25:15.840 --> 02:25:18.980
And what came to my mind was.

1912
02:25:18.980 --> 02:25:23.580
A forced function where you would go to.

1913
02:25:23.580 --> 02:25:28.680
The general population and educate the general population.

1914
02:25:28.680 --> 02:25:34.020
Or through an audit of building departments.

1915
02:25:34.020 --> 02:25:38.280
To see and have our scale of how well a billing department.

1916
02:25:38.280 --> 02:25:43.200
Might be doing this house that I'm sitting in right now. I had.

1917
02:25:43.200 --> 02:25:50.160
I built and I know that the inspector that came through here at 50 inspections a day.

1918
02:25:50.160 --> 02:25:57.780
And there was no way he could do a proper inspection on this house. And I believe that to be happening across the nation.

1919
02:25:58.000 --> 02:26:03.240
And so, if the general public and commission and heard from.

1920
02:26:03.240 --> 02:26:06.960
The general public would, you know, talk to.

1921
02:26:06.960 --> 02:26:11.280
The commissioners and the commissioners for pressure.

1922
02:26:11.280 --> 02:26:18.320
The building departments to do an audit of their building inspections and building departments.

1923
02:26:18.320 --> 02:26:22.140
And they would find out that there's a lot of eyes.

1924
02:26:22.140 --> 02:26:28.020
Or that there's a lot of really quickly done inspections or skipped and that kind of thing.

1925
02:26:28.020 --> 02:26:32.400
Then that might be a way for us to.

1926
02:26:32.400 --> 02:26:35.720
Say, okay, well, we have a solution.

1927
02:26:35.720 --> 02:26:40.360
And that might be, you know, the remote inspections that we've been trying to.

1928
02:26:40.360 --> 02:26:44.880
Trying to promote all the way, so it's kind of a rough thing that I just came up with.

1929
02:26:44.880 --> 02:26:51.000
But it would be a forcing function that force the building department to reach out to.

1930
02:26:51.000 --> 02:26:54.840
People like us who have been successfully doing.

1931
02:26:54.840 --> 02:27:00.000
Uh, we just calculated in the last 2 years.

1932
02:27:00.000 --> 02:27:04.620
We've done, um, almost 2000.

1933
02:27:04.620 --> 02:27:08.020
Remote inspection, so we've got a lot of, um.

1934
02:27:08.020 --> 02:27:13.320
You know, a lot under our belt. Sounds good. Thanks for sharing.

1935
02:27:13.320 --> 02:27:18.360
Well, I know some of you have to go early. Um, Jonathan, are you there?

1936
02:27:18.360 --> 02:27:23.040
Bustler yeah, there's Michael.

1937
02:27:23.040 --> 02:27:30.240
Yeah, to go. Uh, no worries. Well, I know you guys have to go. So why don't I bring you up? Did you want to share next? Uh, Michael.

1938
02:27:30.240 --> 02:27:33.600
Sure, I'd love to, um, it's just been.

1939
02:27:33.600 --> 02:27:43.320
So interesting to hear everybody's stories and kind of feels like we're not alone. Like, a lot of people are in the same boat, but yeah, definitely. We're in a forcing.

1940
02:27:44.280 --> 02:27:49.320
A factor right now, and just kind of restarting and, and, um.

1941
02:27:49.320 --> 02:27:53.760
Shifting our economic engine from what we used to be as a.

1942
02:27:53.760 --> 02:28:00.720
As a work for hire into a owner of IP and creating of our own content. So there's a bit of a pressure there.

1943
02:28:00.720 --> 02:28:05.320
But I'm just like, the more I hear about this, the more I kind of listen and.

1944
02:28:05.320 --> 02:28:09.760
Take in and learn how to operate in the prophetic to learn how to hear.

1945
02:28:10.120 --> 02:28:16.360
Um, God speak, is that something that's deeply passionate in our hearts? We want to hear what he's saying and we want to do that. Like, that's.

1946
02:28:16.360 --> 02:28:21.440
That's all we that's all we have wanted to do. We've given everything into that.

1947
02:28:21.440 --> 02:28:27.880
Um, but there's but you're right. There's a developing and there's a process and it's and I can see it. I can see the pieces now.

1948
02:28:27.880 --> 02:28:36.560
Um, and so there's a reconciliation with that, but the, but I am finding right now as we speak, the beauty of the forcing factor, like, literally in the other room right now.

1949
02:28:36.600 --> 02:28:41.120
There's a forcing factor brainstorm session happening at the clarity of what it is we're supposed to do.

1950
02:28:41.120 --> 02:28:48.400
Because we have, um, a sane amount of opportunity. And so it's really been like, what is the thing God's asking us to do like this?

1951
02:28:48.920 --> 02:28:55.760
Let's I love that statement. Let the fluff kind of fall off and it's already happening. Um, and and it is like, yeah, there's a clarity of vision.

1952
02:28:55.760 --> 02:29:03.360
And there's a strength of purpose that comes along with that forcing factor. So it's not it doesn't feel like a burden or a negative.

1953
02:29:03.360 --> 02:29:13.800
It feels like, um, I get to do this and I, I, I get to focus on what I really want to do and what God want, what, not what I want to do, what, what, what I want to do with God.

1954
02:29:13.800 --> 02:29:25.800
Like, that's the thing. He wants to do it with me, with us and be an invitation to that process together. And that that's so it, that is what releases the burden, you know, it makes it fun to wake up in the morning and go to it.

1955
02:29:25.800 --> 02:29:43.480
But I can see I, yeah, and I do, I definitely also see, uh, like you said, the event, we have a, we have a couple of, of critical projects. We've poured a lot into that are coming and they do force, uh, you know, they, they force a lot of rapid decisions and, um, rapid creativity, I would say too.

1956
02:29:43.840 --> 02:29:57.040
So that's, that's, uh, I can see the power of it, but yeah, I guess as I sit back here and kind of just take it in and process where we're at and the journey we're on and the mistakes and hiccups and the tension, all, everything you talked about today, we relate to.

1957
02:29:58.040 --> 02:29:59.680
I mean, it's like you could, uh,

1958
02:30:00.000 --> 02:30:04.320
It's pretty funny to me, but it's also beautiful.

1959
02:30:04.320 --> 02:30:07.840
And I know it's brought,

1960
02:30:07.840 --> 02:30:10.560
the understanding of the journey has brought clarity

1961
02:30:10.560 --> 02:30:13.640
into our situation and to help us sort through

1962
02:30:13.640 --> 02:30:15.880
what it is God wants to reveal and change in our heart

1963
02:30:15.880 --> 02:30:17.920
so that the words he's spoken can come true.

1964
02:30:17.920 --> 02:30:21.160
Because I can see, that's becoming clear,

1965
02:30:21.160 --> 02:30:22.680
the words he's spoken and the guidance.

1966
02:30:22.680 --> 02:30:26.120
As I look at it now, it's like I can see the pieces

1967
02:30:26.120 --> 02:30:28.720
adding onto each other and on the journey

1968
02:30:28.720 --> 02:30:31.520
kind of being a beautiful one of just the right preparation

1969
02:30:31.520 --> 02:30:33.880
at the right time to bring us to the right point.

1970
02:30:33.880 --> 02:30:37.640
So, yeah, that's it.

1971
02:30:37.640 --> 02:30:38.560
Well, thanks for sharing.

1972
02:30:38.560 --> 02:30:40.440
Well, I know you guys went through

1973
02:30:40.440 --> 02:30:42.840
a very significant forcing function this week.

1974
02:30:44.000 --> 02:30:46.000
But we're so healthy though.

1975
02:30:46.000 --> 02:30:49.400
And what's interesting is that every kingdom leader

1976
02:30:49.400 --> 02:30:51.520
goes through this, you know?

1977
02:30:51.520 --> 02:30:53.920
And I think a lot of times we think maybe it's just me

1978
02:30:53.920 --> 02:30:56.080
or what did I do wrong or what?

1979
02:30:56.080 --> 02:30:57.960
And once we get rid of all those thoughts,

1980
02:30:57.960 --> 02:31:01.280
we're free to really partner with the Lord.

1981
02:31:01.280 --> 02:31:02.640
So thanks for sharing, yeah.

1982
02:31:02.640 --> 02:31:06.040
Well, if Jonathan comes back, we'll pick it up.

1983
02:31:06.040 --> 02:31:07.880
Glenn, let's go to you next.

1984
02:31:09.680 --> 02:31:12.000
Yeah, a couple of quick things, Dan.

1985
02:31:12.000 --> 02:31:15.080
What came to mind actually from a downstairs perspective

1986
02:31:15.080 --> 02:31:17.360
was an article written in the Harvard Business Review

1987
02:31:17.360 --> 02:31:20.120
in the January edition of 2005.

1988
02:31:20.120 --> 02:31:22.480
And the article, the publication was called

1989
02:31:22.480 --> 02:31:24.920
Do Your Commitments Match Your Convictions?

1990
02:31:24.920 --> 02:31:26.840
And it spoke about the challenge

1991
02:31:26.840 --> 02:31:29.680
that people went through when they lost their jobs

1992
02:31:29.680 --> 02:31:32.480
or there was a severe change

1993
02:31:32.480 --> 02:31:35.480
that took place in their world.

1994
02:31:35.480 --> 02:31:37.240
But the benefit, what actually happened,

1995
02:31:37.240 --> 02:31:38.800
it was a forcing function

1996
02:31:38.800 --> 02:31:41.920
because what actually happened is for many people,

1997
02:31:41.920 --> 02:31:44.040
particularly in secular work,

1998
02:31:44.040 --> 02:31:49.040
is their job diverges from their work.

1999
02:31:49.320 --> 02:31:51.600
And as that gap gets wider and wider

2000
02:31:51.600 --> 02:31:53.400
and it's incremental, incremental.

2001
02:31:53.400 --> 02:31:56.040
And so what happens is there comes a point in time

2002
02:31:56.040 --> 02:31:57.120
where there's stress actually

2003
02:31:57.120 --> 02:32:01.440
because of the distance between what you're doing

2004
02:32:01.440 --> 02:32:04.400
versus what your job versus what your work is.

2005
02:32:04.400 --> 02:32:08.320
And what they found is when people go through these crises

2006
02:32:08.320 --> 02:32:11.880
that hits a reset button allows the reconnection

2007
02:32:11.880 --> 02:32:16.880
or an opportunity to reconnect their job with their work.

2008
02:32:17.680 --> 02:32:19.520
And using our terminology, not theirs,

2009
02:32:19.520 --> 02:32:22.320
but that convictions and commitments

2010
02:32:22.320 --> 02:32:24.120
and convictions get aligned again.

2011
02:32:24.120 --> 02:32:27.480
So that just came to mind as something that comes about.

2012
02:32:27.480 --> 02:32:29.280
And that thing sort of brought me

2013
02:32:29.280 --> 02:32:30.760
to the second sort of thought process,

2014
02:32:30.760 --> 02:32:32.800
which was that, you know,

2015
02:32:32.800 --> 02:32:35.280
we talk about that the Lord is the initiator

2016
02:32:35.280 --> 02:32:36.320
and we're the responder.

2017
02:32:36.320 --> 02:32:38.880
And so many of these cases, if I look back at my life,

2018
02:32:38.880 --> 02:32:40.320
it's really the Lord who's been the one

2019
02:32:40.320 --> 02:32:42.600
who's initiating these forcing functions in my life.

2020
02:32:42.600 --> 02:32:44.920
And it's not that I'm proactive on those forcing.

2021
02:32:44.920 --> 02:32:47.600
He's the one who actually brings about

2022
02:32:47.600 --> 02:32:50.280
those forcing functions and creates those things.

2023
02:32:50.280 --> 02:32:53.040
And Dion, you and Bridget have spoken at length

2024
02:32:53.040 --> 02:32:55.520
about your crawl space situation and so on,

2025
02:32:55.520 --> 02:32:57.720
that a forcing function, but it created a,

2026
02:32:59.720 --> 02:33:01.400
it brought you into a new space

2027
02:33:01.400 --> 02:33:02.600
that the Lord wanted to bring to you

2028
02:33:02.600 --> 02:33:05.880
that you would never otherwise have got to.

2029
02:33:05.880 --> 02:33:08.560
And so I'm just, I'm intrigued with this thing

2030
02:33:08.560 --> 02:33:11.240
that the Lord is the initiator of these forcing functions

2031
02:33:11.240 --> 02:33:12.800
in many instances, right?

2032
02:33:12.800 --> 02:33:14.600
And so we can just say, okay,

2033
02:33:14.600 --> 02:33:15.960
so turn it into a prayer and say,

2034
02:33:15.960 --> 02:33:20.680
Lord, what is your forcing function for where I am right now?

2035
02:33:20.680 --> 02:33:23.480
Let's talk about that and see what he comes up with.

2036
02:33:23.480 --> 02:33:24.480
Yeah, no, I love that.

2037
02:33:24.480 --> 02:33:26.600
I think maybe that's at the heart

2038
02:33:26.600 --> 02:33:28.920
of a lot of what we've been saying all day, right?

2039
02:33:28.920 --> 02:33:32.840
We've been saying, instead of having it forced on us,

2040
02:33:32.840 --> 02:33:35.000
you know, don't make the Lord use a forcing function

2041
02:33:35.000 --> 02:33:37.320
to get us to adopt his forcing function.

2042
02:33:37.320 --> 02:33:40.560
You know, it's like, don't force me to place so seat.

2043
02:33:40.560 --> 02:33:43.920
I want to partner with these kind intentions.

2044
02:33:43.920 --> 02:33:47.440
So what do we have to unlearn for that to be the case?

2045
02:33:47.440 --> 02:33:49.720
We have to unlearn, it's up to me.

2046
02:33:49.760 --> 02:33:51.320
I'm doing it for him.

2047
02:33:51.320 --> 02:33:54.280
He's holding me accountable.

2048
02:33:54.280 --> 02:33:56.880
Well, all that stuff is great downstairs language.

2049
02:33:56.880 --> 02:33:58.480
Responsibility and accountability

2050
02:33:58.480 --> 02:33:59.800
are downstairs language things.

2051
02:33:59.800 --> 02:34:02.720
Jesus took full responsibility upstairs

2052
02:34:02.720 --> 02:34:04.680
and the father held him fully accountable

2053
02:34:04.680 --> 02:34:09.000
for all the sin of the world, put it on Jesus.

2054
02:34:09.000 --> 02:34:13.360
So we start with his accountable to the father,

2055
02:34:13.360 --> 02:34:16.040
he is responsible to the father.

2056
02:34:16.040 --> 02:34:21.040
And our, but he needs our agreement, obviously.

2057
02:34:21.480 --> 02:34:23.320
And so it's learning,

2058
02:34:23.320 --> 02:34:27.920
it's learning to come to that place of high performing rest,

2059
02:34:27.920 --> 02:34:30.720
which you can only say in the kingdom,

2060
02:34:30.720 --> 02:34:33.560
makes no, it's a contradiction in a downstairs way,

2061
02:34:33.560 --> 02:34:35.960
because the more you rest upstairs,

2062
02:34:35.960 --> 02:34:38.680
the more you high perform downstairs.

2063
02:34:38.680 --> 02:34:39.720
So I think you're right,

2064
02:34:39.720 --> 02:34:41.480
because you catch on to what the Lord's doing.

2065
02:34:41.480 --> 02:34:42.880
Oh, we're doing this, we're not doing this.

2066
02:34:42.880 --> 02:34:45.680
And by the way, it can be like forcing functions

2067
02:34:46.320 --> 02:34:47.440
on the scale you're saying, Glenn,

2068
02:34:47.440 --> 02:34:51.200
but it can also be simple things like,

2069
02:34:51.200 --> 02:34:53.040
Lord, I need your help with this, right?

2070
02:34:53.040 --> 02:34:54.720
I need your help with this.

2071
02:34:54.720 --> 02:34:57.400
Yesterday I had a day where my energy level

2072
02:34:57.400 --> 02:34:58.680
was really, really low,

2073
02:34:58.680 --> 02:35:00.680
just because the sheer amount of output.

2074
02:35:00.000 --> 02:35:04.240
what we've been doing, you know, we just had a big church event and various other things.

2075
02:35:04.240 --> 02:35:08.400
But I knew that I don't need to be weary or heavy laden.

2076
02:35:08.400 --> 02:35:12.200
So I knew that I was going to take more rest than I normally.

2077
02:35:12.200 --> 02:35:17.000
And so, as you know, because we talked at the end of yesterday, just how much we accomplish

2078
02:35:17.000 --> 02:35:19.040
in such a short period of time.

2079
02:35:19.040 --> 02:35:24.720
So it's just like the Lord just gets on it, you know, and here's the thing, he says, you

2080
02:35:24.720 --> 02:35:28.320
don't have because you don't ask, invite the Lord into all.

2081
02:35:28.640 --> 02:35:30.080
Lord, what's your function?

2082
02:35:30.080 --> 02:35:32.320
How do you want to say who needs to help me?

2083
02:35:32.320 --> 02:35:32.960
Help me with this.

2084
02:35:32.960 --> 02:35:33.600
Help me with that.

2085
02:35:33.600 --> 02:35:34.400
Be with us.

2086
02:35:34.400 --> 02:35:38.800
I know you with me, but he waits for the he waits to be asked.

2087
02:35:39.760 --> 02:35:42.080
And so just ask.

2088
02:35:42.640 --> 02:35:43.120
Okay.

2089
02:35:43.120 --> 02:35:43.840
Thanks, Glenn.

2090
02:35:43.840 --> 02:35:44.160
Todd.

2091
02:35:46.560 --> 02:35:48.080
We got my forcing function.

2092
02:35:48.960 --> 02:35:49.520
Can you hear me?

2093
02:35:50.080 --> 02:35:50.480
Yes.

2094
02:35:50.480 --> 02:35:51.040
Loud and clear.

2095
02:35:52.240 --> 02:35:55.680
My forcing function happened in 2022.

2096
02:35:56.640 --> 02:36:03.120
In January, we were with our business prayer team in our home, the three of them and Tamara

2097
02:36:03.120 --> 02:36:06.400
and I, and I'm getting a word and a picture from God.

2098
02:36:07.360 --> 02:36:12.240
I'm at the top of my scale as a project manager in electrical utility industry, building

2099
02:36:12.240 --> 02:36:15.200
substations, transmission lines, cross country, keeping the lights on.

2100
02:36:16.000 --> 02:36:23.120
But I'm getting in my heart, June, and I say, Tamara, we've got to retire me from my day

2101
02:36:23.120 --> 02:36:25.360
job in, in June.

2102
02:36:25.360 --> 02:36:27.600
And then let's, let's, let's make this happen.

2103
02:36:27.600 --> 02:36:28.320
What can we do?

2104
02:36:28.320 --> 02:36:31.120
And we're thinking through this and we're working.

2105
02:36:31.120 --> 02:36:33.200
She's doing all the registered agent work on the side.

2106
02:36:33.200 --> 02:36:34.880
And I'm helping along with that a little bit.

2107
02:36:34.880 --> 02:36:39.760
We're growing our missions outreach in Kenya, like crazy planting churches.

2108
02:36:39.760 --> 02:36:42.960
And I'm like, I don't have the bandwidth to have a day job anymore.

2109
02:36:44.000 --> 02:36:47.200
It pays really well, but what are we going to do in June?

2110
02:36:47.200 --> 02:36:52.240
I, you know, I've forgotten about that, that, that word that God gave us.

2111
02:36:52.240 --> 02:36:56.320
And, you know, we prayed into that, forgot about that whole plan in June with the day

2112
02:36:56.320 --> 02:37:02.400
we go to inspect our final inspection on our house that we are going to buy a very nice

2113
02:37:02.400 --> 02:37:05.200
house on a golf course community.

2114
02:37:05.200 --> 02:37:08.960
And we get into the house and the finishes are horrible.

2115
02:37:08.960 --> 02:37:13.040
Robin wasn't there as an inspector and it was just awful.

2116
02:37:13.040 --> 02:37:15.120
And I was livid.

2117
02:37:15.120 --> 02:37:19.360
I'm like this house, beautiful, big spatial house.

2118
02:37:19.360 --> 02:37:20.160
It was great.

2119
02:37:20.160 --> 02:37:21.600
And we're not buying this house.

2120
02:37:21.600 --> 02:37:22.480
This was horrible.

2121
02:37:22.480 --> 02:37:23.760
What they did to it.

2122
02:37:23.760 --> 02:37:28.640
And we're backing out, told the people we're out of here where we want our money back or

2123
02:37:28.640 --> 02:37:32.560
keep them, keep the down or whatever we put on it and the earnest.

2124
02:37:32.560 --> 02:37:34.080
And anyway, we're out.

2125
02:37:34.080 --> 02:37:37.520
We're driving to church for leadership to Bethel Austin.

2126
02:37:37.520 --> 02:37:40.160
We're driving to a leadership program.

2127
02:37:40.160 --> 02:37:43.360
I get a call from my boss that day in June.

2128
02:37:43.360 --> 02:37:45.920
He says, Hey, Todd, we don't have any more projects for you.

2129
02:37:45.920 --> 02:37:49.600
We're going to look for two more weeks to see if we can get you some more projects.

2130
02:37:49.680 --> 02:37:54.480
I'm in a big company of over 2000 employees and lots of stuff going on.

2131
02:37:54.480 --> 02:37:59.600
But the 2022 downturn, we can buy two people for the price of you.

2132
02:38:01.200 --> 02:38:07.440
And so by June, and I had forgotten that I told Tamara and our team, we got to retire

2133
02:38:07.440 --> 02:38:07.760
me out.

2134
02:38:07.760 --> 02:38:08.880
Well, God retired me out.

2135
02:38:10.000 --> 02:38:13.520
The force that that put on me has been incredible.

2136
02:38:13.520 --> 02:38:18.640
And then being able to now focus on growing our ministry and the missions program is just

2137
02:38:18.640 --> 02:38:19.200
going crazy.

2138
02:38:20.000 --> 02:38:21.840
The time that allowed me to do that.

2139
02:38:21.840 --> 02:38:24.240
And then I kind of got lost in here a little bit.

2140
02:38:24.240 --> 02:38:29.600
And then God says, Hey, no, I want you to lead the Destiny 508 nonprofit services to

2141
02:38:29.600 --> 02:38:30.480
do that.

2142
02:38:30.480 --> 02:38:36.000
And then now I get we're being forced into let's complete the thousand people.

2143
02:38:36.000 --> 02:38:42.640
God gave Tamara and I, as we're driving some time ago, go start a thousand 508 nonprofits

2144
02:38:42.640 --> 02:38:44.880
and ministries and get them launched.

2145
02:38:44.880 --> 02:38:45.520
And then we're OK.

2146
02:38:45.520 --> 02:38:46.320
We're halfway there.

2147
02:38:46.320 --> 02:38:47.360
We're 500.

2148
02:38:47.360 --> 02:38:48.960
But now we've got 500 more.

2149
02:38:48.960 --> 02:38:52.160
And so now we're being forced like, God, let's finish this in six months.

2150
02:38:52.160 --> 02:38:55.520
So I was like, Tamara and I were talking, let's just finish this in six months.

2151
02:38:55.520 --> 02:38:59.680
Well, what would it take to get 500 more ministries signed up and launched?

2152
02:38:59.680 --> 02:39:03.760
And you'll see where God wants with that is the thousand, the end, or is a thousand,

2153
02:39:03.760 --> 02:39:06.880
just the journey that we're on to learn that.

2154
02:39:06.880 --> 02:39:11.200
And so anyway, so now I get to be CEO and push into all systems.

2155
02:39:11.200 --> 02:39:13.120
I'm a very systems and process guy.

2156
02:39:13.120 --> 02:39:18.000
And so now I'm getting all the tech and automations connected and working with another business

2157
02:39:18.000 --> 02:39:19.200
planner, but it's forcing me.

2158
02:39:19.920 --> 02:39:21.680
But anyway, that was my initial.

2159
02:39:21.680 --> 02:39:23.520
Now I'm at this.

2160
02:39:23.520 --> 02:39:24.960
I got to launch 500.

2161
02:39:24.960 --> 02:39:28.560
I got let's go get 500 more and see where God's going to do that.

2162
02:39:28.560 --> 02:39:31.520
But I need to know more of this.

2163
02:39:31.520 --> 02:39:36.400
I would love more training on this and how do we apply it well to our businesses and

2164
02:39:36.400 --> 02:39:40.480
where we're at on this forcing function thing, too.

2165
02:39:40.480 --> 02:39:42.400
So thank you for bringing it all up.

2166
02:39:42.400 --> 02:39:43.120
Yeah, sure.

2167
02:39:43.120 --> 02:39:46.080
You know, what you're bringing up also is that forcing functions are messy.

2168
02:39:46.880 --> 02:39:48.800
Yeah, we think they're all neat and tidy.

2169
02:39:48.800 --> 02:39:50.160
They're not neat and tidy.

2170
02:39:50.160 --> 02:39:54.160
In fact, when we launched, like when Bridget was saying the small groups, we had an app

2171
02:39:54.160 --> 02:39:55.360
that didn't work properly.

2172
02:39:55.360 --> 02:39:57.520
We were struggling, you know, trying to get it all going.

2173
02:39:57.520 --> 02:39:59.760
And so the team that were doing that was, you know.

2174
02:40:00.000 --> 02:40:04.480
scrambling to get that working we were trying to how do you train these people we don't have a

2175
02:40:04.480 --> 02:40:09.040
training program don't have this all it would be easy to look at all the things of why we cannot

2176
02:40:09.040 --> 02:40:15.520
do it and that's why forcing functions look unattainable and they look unrealistic and

2177
02:40:15.520 --> 02:40:22.640
that's what makes them so precious so that's what that's why them at some point as kingdom

2178
02:40:22.640 --> 02:40:30.960
executives the impossible has to become effortless at some point and because when the lord's

2179
02:40:30.960 --> 02:40:36.560
initiating something something that would have said oh well this will take you know six months

2180
02:40:36.560 --> 02:40:41.840
to do like you said well what if the lord gave you that in three just saying

2181
02:40:45.440 --> 02:40:49.920
so what would you do you know we geared for it what we have to do etc

2182
02:40:50.000 --> 02:40:53.920
it starts to ask all the right questions all the right partnering questions

2183
02:40:54.800 --> 02:41:03.120
so i've never seen the lord back off a fight you know jesus never lost a fight so remember last

2184
02:41:03.120 --> 02:41:07.280
week or the last month the month before we talked about the five stages you go from exploring

2185
02:41:07.280 --> 02:41:12.640
to pioneering then you get into warrior mode because it's a fight now and sometimes these

2186
02:41:12.640 --> 02:41:18.000
forcing functions just end the war on that issue quickly it's like sometimes god just pulls the

2187
02:41:18.000 --> 02:41:21.760
plug on the wall it's okay we're done with that let's just end that fight move you on to the next

2188
02:41:21.760 --> 02:41:26.880
field so yeah definitely i understand you want some real practical stuff of course i think you

2189
02:41:26.880 --> 02:41:31.200
guys have access to all the edge materials so i think you do have a good portion of it

2190
02:41:31.920 --> 02:41:37.920
but bring them up here and drop questions on the app because we do check them before the event

2191
02:41:37.920 --> 02:41:42.640
before these calls to check if any of you are driving a specific issue hey i tried this this

2192
02:41:42.640 --> 02:41:48.720
didn't work there's a question section just put it in there and and we will or just you know let

2193
02:41:48.720 --> 02:41:54.400
us know for sure we're still small enough we can all we can do it very personally who would like

2194
02:41:54.400 --> 02:42:04.240
to go next how are we doing let's let's pull up somebody else okay so uh tamra

2195
02:42:04.240 --> 02:42:15.440
so it's um i love that todd just shared all that it's been quite a journey but for me and there's

2196
02:42:15.440 --> 02:42:20.960
something you said that god brought up this the whole forcing thing is new to me i haven't

2197
02:42:21.680 --> 02:42:26.720
pondered this yet but i he's giving me all the applications he's showing me what he's doing in

2198
02:42:26.720 --> 02:42:32.400
my life right now but 20 years ago i got a prophetic word so you and i wasn't even into

2199
02:42:32.400 --> 02:42:38.880
the prophetic back then but i got this word and i've been holding it all these years 20 years of

2200
02:42:38.880 --> 02:42:50.880
holding this word and the word was that i would be an impactful influencer on stages and at the time

2201
02:42:50.880 --> 02:42:56.640
i wasn't doing any of that i was yes i was running ministries and whatever i was in service but i

2202
02:42:56.640 --> 02:43:04.240
wasn't that person um i did end up growing into being a influential stage person in the secular

2203
02:43:04.240 --> 02:43:12.800
world and uh crashed horribly due to arrogance in my field of favor which turned into being

2204
02:43:12.800 --> 02:43:19.680
a nightmare and i lost it all and then god is rebuilding it and so having said all that last

2205
02:43:19.680 --> 02:43:26.160
spring or that last spring last fall i was in this leadership training course and they were

2206
02:43:26.240 --> 02:43:32.240
bringing out um excuse me what is what's the prophetic words god has for you and that word

2207
02:43:32.240 --> 02:43:40.400
came up again that this is who i would be and uh i'm saying all that because i thought that was

2208
02:43:40.400 --> 02:43:46.640
where he was taking me when we crashed in november and i lost my president because i was going okay

2209
02:43:46.640 --> 02:43:51.520
god here we go we're gonna we're gonna do this thing because i heard it again go this now's the

2210
02:43:51.520 --> 02:43:57.840
time it was a now word it was not a 20 year old word and and then all the company crashed and all

2211
02:43:57.840 --> 02:44:06.080
the everything happened um but what kicked me back in again was we met with ray and i know

2212
02:44:06.080 --> 02:44:11.760
he's not on the call anymore but we met you know ray and jessica his wife we were on a trip together

2213
02:44:11.760 --> 02:44:18.560
and um he in that time we were together with them he invited me to be on his stage in october

2214
02:44:19.440 --> 02:44:26.880
and i'm like wow that's a big stage to be on after not having done it for like 15 years you know

2215
02:44:27.520 --> 02:44:34.080
and what was funny in january god again said this is your year this is when you get launched and i'm

2216
02:44:34.080 --> 02:44:39.760
like i don't even know how to make that happen and out of the blue i got two or three or four phone

2217
02:44:39.760 --> 02:44:44.080
calls from people going i want you on my podcast i want you on my radio show i went i didn't even

2218
02:44:44.240 --> 02:44:50.400
i didn't even seeking them they just came and then i think it was in february uh ray said i

2219
02:44:50.400 --> 02:44:56.560
want you on my stage and i went oh my gosh god how do we get ready i understand my inner world

2220
02:44:56.560 --> 02:44:59.840
has been working with you a long time and we're good but my this

2221
02:45:00.000 --> 02:45:02.720
this level down here, how do we make that happen?

2222
02:45:03.800 --> 02:45:08.000
So that's when I brought on team members

2223
02:45:08.000 --> 02:45:09.440
who know how to do a podcast.

2224
02:45:09.440 --> 02:45:10.800
So we've got a podcast starting

2225
02:45:10.800 --> 02:45:13.880
and how do I do all of this?

2226
02:45:13.880 --> 02:45:16.300
How do I get my persona out in the world?

2227
02:45:16.300 --> 02:45:18.240
Because I'm not a Facebook person.

2228
02:45:18.240 --> 02:45:20.040
I'm not an Instagram person.

2229
02:45:20.040 --> 02:45:23.480
That's Todd's world, but I get to be that

2230
02:45:23.480 --> 02:45:25.180
because that's what you do.

2231
02:45:25.180 --> 02:45:28.000
And, but he was my,

2232
02:45:28.000 --> 02:45:31.880
he was the forcing function that God used to say,

2233
02:45:31.880 --> 02:45:36.480
it's time, you have a stage to be on in October, get ready.

2234
02:45:36.480 --> 02:45:39.400
And my first book is getting published next week.

2235
02:45:39.400 --> 02:45:41.840
I have another book coming out in September.

2236
02:45:41.840 --> 02:45:45.880
I mean, so God is accelerating the process.

2237
02:45:45.880 --> 02:45:47.720
So all of these things that you have on there

2238
02:45:47.720 --> 02:45:48.680
are the things to do.

2239
02:45:48.680 --> 02:45:50.320
I've got the new team.

2240
02:45:50.320 --> 02:45:53.920
I mean, we're working on restructuring the ministry

2241
02:45:53.920 --> 02:45:55.360
to make it possible.

2242
02:45:55.360 --> 02:45:57.200
I mean, there's just all these things that we're doing.

2243
02:45:57.200 --> 02:45:59.280
You started your publishing company.

2244
02:45:59.280 --> 02:46:01.120
Started publishing company last week

2245
02:46:02.200 --> 02:46:04.040
so we could publish our books.

2246
02:46:04.040 --> 02:46:06.640
So, you know, God says, do it.

2247
02:46:06.640 --> 02:46:07.960
And he knows we're jumpers.

2248
02:46:07.960 --> 02:46:09.360
So he calls us jumpers.

2249
02:46:09.360 --> 02:46:10.200
He says, go.

2250
02:46:10.200 --> 02:46:11.520
And we say, how high?

2251
02:46:11.520 --> 02:46:15.080
Whenever, you know, that's what we get to do.

2252
02:46:15.080 --> 02:46:18.440
So in the process, he's building this other thing

2253
02:46:18.440 --> 02:46:21.360
in our company and in our world.

2254
02:46:23.080 --> 02:46:24.600
And so it makes complete sense

2255
02:46:24.600 --> 02:46:26.840
why he said Todd is CEO a month ago,

2256
02:46:27.640 --> 02:46:29.800
because I had to be set free from the role.

2257
02:46:29.800 --> 02:46:34.800
And so he just, he is so, so good

2258
02:46:35.080 --> 02:46:38.920
and so kind to us to set us up for success

2259
02:46:38.920 --> 02:46:40.640
when we are totally not,

2260
02:46:40.640 --> 02:46:43.680
it's not even in our sphere of thinking

2261
02:46:43.680 --> 02:46:45.760
to have something be possible.

2262
02:46:45.760 --> 02:46:48.360
And it's only because of him.

2263
02:46:48.360 --> 02:46:50.160
I, you know, who would have known 20 years ago

2264
02:46:50.160 --> 02:46:51.000
this is the year?

2265
02:46:51.000 --> 02:46:52.920
Literally it's 20 years ago to this year.

2266
02:46:52.920 --> 02:46:53.760
Yeah.

2267
02:46:53.760 --> 02:46:55.160
So the word came.

2268
02:46:55.200 --> 02:46:57.080
So that's what I love.

2269
02:46:57.080 --> 02:47:00.040
I love so many elements of that story.

2270
02:47:00.040 --> 02:47:04.080
I love that prophetic words don't have a sell by date.

2271
02:47:04.080 --> 02:47:06.520
You know, upstairs, there is no time base.

2272
02:47:06.520 --> 02:47:09.240
God doesn't measure time, he measures growth.

2273
02:47:09.240 --> 02:47:11.920
And, you know, and I think that's the joy of it

2274
02:47:11.920 --> 02:47:15.440
is that, you know, even if we get behind,

2275
02:47:15.440 --> 02:47:18.160
which this doesn't necessarily mean you got behind,

2276
02:47:18.160 --> 02:47:21.040
there are most words we get from the Lord,

2277
02:47:21.040 --> 02:47:24.920
we're talking 20, 30 years to get there.

2278
02:47:25.480 --> 02:47:26.480
I mean, you think about it,

2279
02:47:26.480 --> 02:47:29.480
it takes what, at least 20 years to get a,

2280
02:47:29.480 --> 02:47:32.720
an office anything, an office profit, an office anything.

2281
02:47:33.840 --> 02:47:36.400
Because of all the learning that's involved,

2282
02:47:36.400 --> 02:47:39.040
because there's subtlety and nuance of how to do it with him

2283
02:47:39.040 --> 02:47:40.960
and who he is and so on.

2284
02:47:40.960 --> 02:47:44.440
So I'm glad, so congratulations on the book

2285
02:47:44.440 --> 02:47:47.400
and the publishing company and the invitations to speak

2286
02:47:47.400 --> 02:47:49.720
and sounds fantastic, you know?

2287
02:47:49.720 --> 02:47:52.240
So I'm so glad that, I'm so glad the Lord is,

2288
02:47:52.240 --> 02:47:54.480
so the Lord's got you in his own forcing function,

2289
02:47:55.040 --> 02:47:57.080
which is the point Glenn was making earlier.

2290
02:47:57.080 --> 02:47:59.720
He's initiated when you're just running along going,

2291
02:47:59.720 --> 02:48:01.800
cool, let's do this.

2292
02:48:01.800 --> 02:48:05.160
Yeah, so there are, yeah,

2293
02:48:05.160 --> 02:48:06.920
so there's a lot we can say around that.

2294
02:48:06.920 --> 02:48:11.040
So let's just, let's go to Matthew and after Matthew,

2295
02:48:11.040 --> 02:48:13.680
let's see who else, we still got to do a few more.

2296
02:48:15.600 --> 02:48:18.360
Hey, let me put my hand down there, it's distracting.

2297
02:48:19.720 --> 02:48:22.640
Man, thank you so much for sharing that Tamara.

2298
02:48:22.640 --> 02:48:26.600
It's been such a joy to like hear you and Todd share today

2299
02:48:26.600 --> 02:48:29.440
and to see how everything's just,

2300
02:48:29.440 --> 02:48:31.200
God's bringing so many pieces together.

2301
02:48:31.200 --> 02:48:35.400
It's just, it's really, it's so mind blowing

2302
02:48:35.400 --> 02:48:37.120
that like you were saying,

2303
02:48:37.120 --> 02:48:39.880
he accomplishes all of these things for us

2304
02:48:39.880 --> 02:48:42.320
and it's been so amazing for me.

2305
02:48:42.320 --> 02:48:47.320
The forcing function that I didn't realize

2306
02:48:49.400 --> 02:48:50.640
was a forcing function.

2307
02:48:50.640 --> 02:48:53.360
I mean, I'm literally getting so much information today

2308
02:48:53.360 --> 02:48:55.800
that's exactly where, I mean, it's,

2309
02:48:55.800 --> 02:48:58.120
the timing is so perfect.

2310
02:48:59.440 --> 02:49:03.000
So for me, it was, I was thinking,

2311
02:49:03.000 --> 02:49:04.760
I got this incredible word from the Lord

2312
02:49:04.760 --> 02:49:07.880
and I started taking all of these steps

2313
02:49:07.880 --> 02:49:12.840
and actions and obedience and then all of a sudden

2314
02:49:12.840 --> 02:49:14.480
I realized that all of them,

2315
02:49:14.480 --> 02:49:16.720
all of the finances and stuff that I had,

2316
02:49:16.720 --> 02:49:19.440
I had all the reserves that I had cashed,

2317
02:49:19.440 --> 02:49:24.440
liquidated to start this were dissipating very quickly.

2318
02:49:24.720 --> 02:49:27.800
And I was like, Lord, did I make a mistake?

2319
02:49:27.800 --> 02:49:29.360
Did I do something wrong?

2320
02:49:29.360 --> 02:49:33.240
And he said, and he didn't really answer me

2321
02:49:33.240 --> 02:49:36.000
except he brought people into my life

2322
02:49:36.000 --> 02:49:38.160
to answer the question.

2323
02:49:38.160 --> 02:49:41.440
They didn't know I was asking, if that makes sense.

2324
02:49:41.440 --> 02:49:42.280
Yeah.

2325
02:49:42.280 --> 02:49:44.040
People just started coming into my life

2326
02:49:44.040 --> 02:49:47.320
and blessing me like you did Dion, like you did Todd

2327
02:49:47.320 --> 02:49:49.240
and by default Tamara.

2328
02:49:50.000 --> 02:49:51.960
And just everything going on.

2329
02:49:51.960 --> 02:49:52.920
And it's so amazing.

2330
02:49:52.920 --> 02:49:56.080
And so all of a sudden I woke up and I was,

2331
02:49:56.080 --> 02:49:57.560
cause I kept asking the Lord, I was like,

2332
02:49:57.560 --> 02:49:59.040
Lord, everything is in place.

2333
02:49:59.040 --> 02:49:59.880
The websites.

2334
02:50:00.000 --> 02:50:04.720
place, the platforms are in place, Luke's got the social media stuff all lined up, the YouTube

2335
02:50:04.720 --> 02:50:08.400
channel, all the things that you said we were going to do, that's all there. The only thing

2336
02:50:08.400 --> 02:50:14.560
missing is the content. And he said, well, who's providing the content? And I said, well,

2337
02:50:14.560 --> 02:50:22.640
I thought it was me. And he goes, well, that's very sweet of you. So anyway, I woke up yesterday

2338
02:50:22.640 --> 02:50:30.080
morning and the Lord said, today's the day. Text, message Luke and Kirsten and see if they're

2339
02:50:30.080 --> 02:50:44.160
available and let's start today. And so for me, he had given me a forcing function of, he said,

2340
02:50:44.160 --> 02:50:52.000
we're going to be here by the end of the year. And I thought I had so much more to do with that

2341
02:50:52.000 --> 02:50:59.200
happening than just my daily yes to do what he's called me to do today and to walk in that.

2342
02:50:59.920 --> 02:51:05.360
And what's amazing is that all the things I've been teaching and sharing that I've learned

2343
02:51:05.360 --> 02:51:09.360
through the Brennan School of Leadership with people about, you know, the Lord's already

2344
02:51:09.360 --> 02:51:13.360
accomplished everything he wants you to accomplish. It's all there. It's done.

2345
02:51:13.360 --> 02:51:18.800
All he wants you to do is participate with him in it and walk with him every day. And he'll lead

2346
02:51:19.520 --> 02:51:24.080
to watch him unfold supernaturally, all of these events behind the scenes.

2347
02:51:24.720 --> 02:51:29.200
And so as I thought we were out of money, as I thought I had lost people, you know, Luke and

2348
02:51:29.200 --> 02:51:36.880
Kirsten got with me this last week and sat down and Luke had filmed. I led a deal called First

2349
02:51:36.880 --> 02:51:42.480
Wednesday at our church, the church plant we're doing. And Luke asked if he could come film it

2350
02:51:42.480 --> 02:51:47.680
and video recorded everything. I'm sure he did an amazing job because he's so exceptional at it.

2351
02:51:48.240 --> 02:51:55.520
And I spoke about the fruit of the spirit and because I've been enjoying pouring the things

2352
02:51:55.520 --> 02:52:01.200
I'm learning at Brilliant into my church and, well, sorry, not my church and the church plant

2353
02:52:01.200 --> 02:52:06.800
that I'm partnering with the Lord in. Anyway, so I spoke on the fruit of the spirit and Luke,

2354
02:52:06.800 --> 02:52:12.080
when I was meeting with him, said, hey, by the way, I mean, he and I haven't talked in a few

2355
02:52:12.080 --> 02:52:16.160
weeks. And he said, by the way, I've been going through the video, I've been doing all this stuff

2356
02:52:16.160 --> 02:52:21.280
and, you know, doing all the editing and putting it all together, piecing it together. And I have

2357
02:52:21.280 --> 02:52:27.120
multiple, I have so much content that I can put out. I can have you speaking gigs by the end of

2358
02:52:27.120 --> 02:52:34.400
July. And I went, huh, because the Lord had been talking to me about speaking and about doing that.

2359
02:52:34.400 --> 02:52:40.560
Anyway, just so the Lord is providing secondary business opportunities, like me doing speaking

2360
02:52:40.560 --> 02:52:46.480
engagements, we're going to be launching content. He gave us a vision. Even Luke messaged me

2361
02:52:47.360 --> 02:52:52.640
when, after we got done with yesterday, he goes, I hear the merchandise that the Lord is going to

2362
02:52:52.640 --> 02:52:59.200
have us provide so that people can participate in this movement to be building people up and

2363
02:53:00.800 --> 02:53:05.280
the inclusion into the body of Christ of all the people that we've been trying to exclude

2364
02:53:05.280 --> 02:53:10.240
from the body of Christ, because they're just too sinful or they're too broken or either too

2365
02:53:10.240 --> 02:53:15.200
whatever the church has labeled them in the religious spirit of the church. And so anyway,

2366
02:53:15.200 --> 02:53:20.080
it just, it's, it's so exciting and so amazing that God's opening all of these doors and facets,

2367
02:53:20.720 --> 02:53:27.120
like in the last 48, 72 hours. And I'm just, it's very exciting to be in this, this,

2368
02:53:28.400 --> 02:53:34.480
you know, basically he's, he created the forcing function and it's just great because everybody

2369
02:53:34.480 --> 02:53:39.600
that's involved is flourishing out of it. Oh, that's, thanks for sharing. There was a

2370
02:53:39.600 --> 02:53:45.360
lot of richness in that. I think people, I see Todd liked your daily. Yes, that's it. You know,

2371
02:53:46.160 --> 02:53:51.120
Jesus taught us to pray for our daily bread, not for our annual bread. And the reason is if it's

2372
02:53:51.120 --> 02:53:57.760
daily, it's fresh. So get, you know, fresh every day. So we don't need to ask the Lord for our

2373
02:53:57.760 --> 02:54:03.360
monthly bread or our whatever daily bread. Well, I think we've got time for one more. I know we

2374
02:54:03.360 --> 02:54:09.200
were going to play you a wonderful little clip. Dear, can you just check how long is that clip?

2375
02:54:09.360 --> 02:54:15.440
I think it's about five minutes long. Is it that we wanted to wrap up with? Yeah, it is five minutes

2376
02:54:15.440 --> 02:54:20.720
and 24 seconds. Excellent. I thought so. Well, I don't want to actually cut off anyone else who

2377
02:54:20.720 --> 02:54:26.720
wants to share it, but otherwise we wanted to roll out this. There was this really amazing city. If

2378
02:54:26.720 --> 02:54:35.760
you want to get that ready, there's this amazing clip that from Simon Sinek and he is I love the

2379
02:54:35.760 --> 02:54:41.440
title. Do you love your wife? And Simon talking about leadership. And I thought this is one of

2380
02:54:41.440 --> 02:54:48.880
the smartest analogies and we want to share with you. So let's let's let's listen to this together.

2381
02:54:50.480 --> 02:54:56.080
Do you love your wife? Yes. Prove it. Like what's the metric? Give me the number

2382
02:54:56.080 --> 02:54:59.760
that helps me know. Right. Because when you met her, you didn't love her.

2383
02:55:00.000 --> 02:55:03.000
Now you love her, right?

2384
02:55:03.000 --> 02:55:06.000
Tell me the day the love happened.

2385
02:55:06.000 --> 02:55:08.000
It's an impossible question.

2386
02:55:08.000 --> 02:55:10.000
But it's not that it doesn't exist.

2387
02:55:10.000 --> 02:55:13.000
It's that it's much easier to prove over time, right?

2388
02:55:13.000 --> 02:55:14.000
Leadership is the same thing.

2389
02:55:14.000 --> 02:55:15.000
It's about transition.

2390
02:55:15.000 --> 02:55:17.000
So if you were to go to the gym,

2391
02:55:17.000 --> 02:55:19.000
it's like exercise, right?

2392
02:55:19.000 --> 02:55:22.000
If you go to the gym and you work out

2393
02:55:22.000 --> 02:55:23.000
and you come back and you look in the mirror,

2394
02:55:23.000 --> 02:55:25.000
you will see nothing.

2395
02:55:25.000 --> 02:55:27.000
And if you go to the gym the next day

2396
02:55:27.000 --> 02:55:28.000
and you come back and you look in the mirror,

2397
02:55:28.000 --> 02:55:33.000
you will see nothing, right?

2398
02:55:33.000 --> 02:55:34.000
So clearly there's no results.

2399
02:55:34.000 --> 02:55:35.000
Can't be measured.

2400
02:55:35.000 --> 02:55:37.000
It must not be effective.

2401
02:55:37.000 --> 02:55:40.000
So we quit, right?

2402
02:55:40.000 --> 02:55:42.000
Or if you fundamentally believe

2403
02:55:42.000 --> 02:55:43.000
that this is the right course of action

2404
02:55:43.000 --> 02:55:44.000
and you stick with it,

2405
02:55:44.000 --> 02:55:45.000
like in a relationship.

2406
02:55:45.000 --> 02:55:49.000
I bought her flowers and I wished her happy birthday

2407
02:55:49.000 --> 02:55:50.000
and she doesn't love me.

2408
02:55:50.000 --> 02:55:52.000
Clearly I'll give up.

2409
02:55:52.000 --> 02:55:53.000
That's not what happens.

2410
02:55:53.000 --> 02:55:55.000
If you believe there's something there,

2411
02:55:55.000 --> 02:55:57.000
you commit yourself to an act of service.

2412
02:55:57.000 --> 02:56:00.000
You commit yourself to the regime, the exercise.

2413
02:56:00.000 --> 02:56:01.000
You can screw it up.

2414
02:56:01.000 --> 02:56:02.000
You can eat chocolate cake one day.

2415
02:56:02.000 --> 02:56:05.000
You can skip a day or two.

2416
02:56:05.000 --> 02:56:07.000
It allows for that.

2417
02:56:07.000 --> 02:56:08.000
But if you stick with it consistently,

2418
02:56:08.000 --> 02:56:11.000
I'm not exactly sure what day,

2419
02:56:11.000 --> 02:56:13.000
but I know you'll start getting into shape.

2420
02:56:13.000 --> 02:56:14.000
I know it.

2421
02:56:14.000 --> 02:56:15.000
And the same with the relationship.

2422
02:56:15.000 --> 02:56:17.000
It's not about the events.

2423
02:56:17.000 --> 02:56:19.000
It's not about intensity.

2424
02:56:19.000 --> 02:56:21.000
It's about consistency, right?

2425
02:56:21.000 --> 02:56:23.000
You go to the dentist twice a year,

2426
02:56:23.000 --> 02:56:24.000
your teeth will fall out.

2427
02:56:24.000 --> 02:56:26.000
You have to brush your teeth every day for two minutes.

2428
02:56:26.000 --> 02:56:29.000
What does brushing your teeth twice a day for two minutes do?

2429
02:56:29.000 --> 02:56:30.000
Nothing.

2430
02:56:30.000 --> 02:56:34.000
Unless you do it every day twice a day for two minutes.

2431
02:56:34.000 --> 02:56:35.000
It's the consistency.

2432
02:56:35.000 --> 02:56:38.000
Going to the gym for nine hours does not get you into shape.

2433
02:56:38.000 --> 02:56:41.000
Working out every day for 20 minutes gets you into shape.

2434
02:56:41.000 --> 02:56:44.000
So the problem is we treat leadership with intensity.

2435
02:56:44.000 --> 02:56:45.000
We have a two-day off-site.

2436
02:56:45.000 --> 02:56:46.000
We invite a bunch of speakers.

2437
02:56:46.000 --> 02:56:48.000
We give everybody a certificate.

2438
02:56:48.000 --> 02:56:51.000
You're a leader, right?

2439
02:56:51.000 --> 02:56:53.000
Those things are like going to the dentist.

2440
02:56:53.000 --> 02:56:54.000
They're very important.

2441
02:56:54.000 --> 02:56:56.000
They're good for reminding us or getting us back on track,

2442
02:56:56.000 --> 02:56:57.000
learning new lessons.

2443
02:56:57.000 --> 02:57:01.000
But it's the daily practice of all the monotonous little boring things

2444
02:57:01.000 --> 02:57:04.000
like brushing your teeth that matter the most.

2445
02:57:04.000 --> 02:57:06.000
She didn't fall in love with you because you remembered her birthday

2446
02:57:06.000 --> 02:57:08.000
and bought her flowers on Valentine's Day.

2447
02:57:08.000 --> 02:57:11.000
She fell in love with you because when you woke up in the morning,

2448
02:57:11.000 --> 02:57:14.000
you said good morning to her before you checked your phone.

2449
02:57:14.000 --> 02:57:17.000
She fell in love with you because when you went to the fridge

2450
02:57:17.000 --> 02:57:20.000
to get yourself a drink, you got her one without even asking.

2451
02:57:20.000 --> 02:57:23.000
She fell in love with you because when you had an amazing day at work

2452
02:57:23.000 --> 02:57:26.000
and she came home and she had a terrible day at work,

2453
02:57:26.000 --> 02:57:29.000
you didn't say, yeah, yeah, yeah, but let me tell you about my day.

2454
02:57:29.000 --> 02:57:31.000
You sat and listened to her awful day,

2455
02:57:31.000 --> 02:57:34.000
and you didn't say a thing about your amazing day.

2456
02:57:34.000 --> 02:57:36.000
This is why she fell in love with you.

2457
02:57:36.000 --> 02:57:38.000
I can't tell you exactly what day,

2458
02:57:38.000 --> 02:57:40.000
and it was no particular thing you did.

2459
02:57:40.000 --> 02:57:43.000
It was the accumulation of all of those little things

2460
02:57:43.000 --> 02:57:46.000
that she woke up one day, and as if she pressed a button,

2461
02:57:46.000 --> 02:57:49.000
she goes, I love him.

2462
02:57:49.000 --> 02:57:50.000
Leadership is exactly the same.

2463
02:57:50.000 --> 02:57:52.000
There's no event.

2464
02:57:52.000 --> 02:57:54.000
There's no thing I can tell you you have to do

2465
02:57:54.000 --> 02:57:56.000
that your people will trust you.

2466
02:57:56.000 --> 02:57:58.000
It just doesn't work that way.

2467
02:57:58.000 --> 02:58:01.000
It's an accumulation of lots and lots of little things

2468
02:58:01.000 --> 02:58:04.000
that anyone by themselves is innocuous and useless,

2469
02:58:04.000 --> 02:58:06.000
literally pointless by themselves.

2470
02:58:06.000 --> 02:58:09.000
People will look at little things that are good leadership practices

2471
02:58:09.000 --> 02:58:12.000
and say, that won't work, and you're absolutely right.

2472
02:58:12.000 --> 02:58:15.000
But if you do it consistently, and you do it in combination

2473
02:58:15.000 --> 02:58:17.000
with lots of other little things,

2474
02:58:17.000 --> 02:58:19.000
like saying good morning to someone,

2475
02:58:19.000 --> 02:58:21.000
looking them in the eye.

2476
02:58:21.000 --> 02:58:25.000
My friend George, who's a three-star general in the Marine Corps,

2477
02:58:25.000 --> 02:58:27.000
he says his test for leadership, and I love this,

2478
02:58:27.000 --> 02:58:29.000
he goes, his test for good leaders,

2479
02:58:29.000 --> 02:58:31.000
if you ask somebody how their day is going,

2480
02:58:31.000 --> 02:58:33.000
you actually care about the answer.

2481
02:58:33.000 --> 02:58:35.000
The number of times we're walking to a meeting,

2482
02:58:35.000 --> 02:58:37.000
we're rushing, we go, how are you, not good,

2483
02:58:37.000 --> 02:58:39.000
I've got to get to you later, I'm late for a meeting.

2484
02:58:39.000 --> 02:58:41.000
If you ask the question, you are standing there,

2485
02:58:41.000 --> 02:58:43.000
and you are listening to the answer.

2486
02:58:43.000 --> 02:58:45.000
It's those little innocuous things that you do

2487
02:58:45.000 --> 02:58:47.000
over and over and over and over

2488
02:58:47.000 --> 02:58:51.000
that people will say, I love my job.

2489
02:58:51.000 --> 02:58:53.000
Not, I like my job.

2490
02:58:53.000 --> 02:58:55.000
I like my job means, yeah, the challenge is great,

2491
02:58:55.000 --> 02:58:57.000
they pay me well, I like the people.

2492
02:58:57.000 --> 02:59:00.000
I love my job means, I don't want to work anywhere else.

2493
02:59:00.000 --> 02:59:03.000
I don't care how much somebody else is willing to pay me.

2494
02:59:03.000 --> 02:59:05.000
I'm devoted to the people here,

2495
02:59:05.000 --> 02:59:07.000
and I care desperately about the people here

2496
02:59:07.000 --> 02:59:09.000
as if they were my family.

2497
02:59:09.000 --> 02:59:12.000
In business, we have colleagues and co-workers.

2498
02:59:12.000 --> 02:59:15.000
In the military, they have brothers and sisters.

2499
02:59:15.000 --> 02:59:18.000
That's how they think of each other.

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02:59:18.000 --> 02:59:21.000
If you really have a strong corporate culture,

2501
02:59:21.000 --> 02:59:24.000
the people will think of each other like brothers and sisters.

2502
02:59:24.000 --> 02:59:26.000
It's like a family, right? No.

2503
02:59:26.000 --> 02:59:29.000
Brothers and sisters.

2504
02:59:29.000 --> 02:59:33.000
Deep love. Fight, but the love doesn't go away.

2505
02:59:33.000 --> 02:59:35.000
Bicker, the love doesn't go away.

2506
02:59:35.000 --> 02:59:38.000
And I'll fight with my sister, but if you threaten my sister,

2507
02:59:38.000 --> 02:59:40.000
you're going to have to deal with me. Right?

2508
02:59:40.000 --> 02:59:42.000
We'll fight internally, we'll bicker with each other,

2509
02:59:42.000 --> 02:59:44.000
but nobody's going to hurt each other,

2510
02:59:44.000 --> 02:59:47.000
and when that side shows up, you're looking at a unified front.

2511
02:59:47.000 --> 02:59:49.000
Brothers and sisters.

2512
02:59:49.000 --> 02:59:53.000
Now, how do you create brothers and sisters out of strangers?

2513
02:59:53.000 --> 02:59:56.000
Common beliefs, common values, you know?

2514
02:59:56.000 --> 02:59:58.000
Parents, in other words,

2515
02:59:58.000 --> 03:00:00.000
executives who care about...

2516
03:00:00.000 --> 03:00:05.200
Their children's success, who care to raise their children, teach them skills, discipline

2517
03:00:05.200 --> 03:00:08.960
them when necessary, help them build their self-confidence so that they can go on and

2518
03:00:08.960 --> 03:00:13.400
achieve something more than you could have ever imagined achieving for yourself.

2519
03:00:13.400 --> 03:00:17.320
That's leadership.

2520
03:00:17.320 --> 03:00:21.440
This is a long clip, but it's absolutely, I hope that blessed you because here's the

2521
03:00:21.440 --> 03:00:22.440
deal.

2522
03:00:22.440 --> 03:00:23.860
Take it upstairs for a minute.

2523
03:00:23.860 --> 03:00:29.260
As powerful as that was downstairs, which it certainly was, great leadership is not

2524
03:00:29.260 --> 03:00:30.520
doing this or that.

2525
03:00:30.520 --> 03:00:36.640
It's just that consistent, small things and a heart and a mindset towards people.

2526
03:00:36.640 --> 03:00:38.760
Here's the word of the Lord to you, though.

2527
03:00:38.760 --> 03:00:47.560
I am with you in your learning, and I am consistently, relentlessly kind and good to you.

2528
03:00:47.560 --> 03:00:50.720
And so no need to beat yourself up.

2529
03:00:50.720 --> 03:00:54.320
God can redeem back any time you feel you've lost.

2530
03:00:54.320 --> 03:00:59.800
And every little mistake we've made didn't make God fall out of love with us because

2531
03:00:59.800 --> 03:01:03.600
we were disobedient that time or those 10 times.

2532
03:01:03.600 --> 03:01:04.960
It doesn't change.

2533
03:01:04.960 --> 03:01:11.360
He loves you because He loves you because He loves you because that is what love does.

2534
03:01:11.360 --> 03:01:12.360
Thank you very much.

2535
03:01:12.360 --> 03:01:14.320
Thanks for being part of this Mancina Circle.

2536
03:01:14.320 --> 03:01:19.000
We love you guys, and we will see you in Seattle.

2537
03:01:19.000 --> 03:01:20.560
Bye.