Welcome, welcome, welcome. It's good to see you all.
Y'all, it feels weird to be here on a Tuesday night to do heart work.
I'm so used to it. I do heart work on Monday nights.
So we're going to have a heart work party tonight, if you will.
At least that's the way I look at it.
God wants to do some really awesome stuff.
I'm expecting him to show up and bring illumination is what I was praying just before I hopped on.
It's not about a person.
It's about the Holy Spirit bringing truth and revelation to areas that we can't see.
As you all remember, if you remember when you went through heart work,
one of the biggest things is that the Holy Spirit knows the why behind the what.
He knows the why behind the what in everything that we do and everything we think
and the way we process information, even the lies that we still get tripped up with today.
And so I want to encourage you all. I'm going to pray before we get started tonight.
The way I'm going to do this, I don't want to teach a lot.
So really what I want to do is group coaching a whole lot as much as we need to.
And if that's what you all feel open to doing, that's where I'd love for it to go.
But I also brought content if we need a break and we need to kind of bring some additional content in
to get some more people kind of hearing what Holy Spirit wants to say to them.
So I'm just open to just kind of just truly following the Holy Spirit in our process tonight.
I want to welcome the men with us, ladies, just making sure you all know it's co-ed.
So anybody that gets into the heart work seat tonight, I encourage you just to share just like you would,
whether it's in a private like our group heart work with just the ladies or the group heart work with the men,
because you all we help each other get breakthrough.
Okay, so as you're preparing your heart, I'm going to go ahead and pray.
And we're going to see what Holy Spirit wants to do tonight.
Father, thank you so much for your grace.
God, thank you for a day full of hope and expectancy.
And Lord, even just some maybe just had a really hard day.
I pray that you would just minister to every need that they have right now,
that you would help them to put and leave those things at the door for just this reprieve,
this time of coming into your presence and asking you to reveal these areas for healing that we need.
Help us to remove blinders.
And God, we ask you to bring those things that are in darkness to the light up and out of us so that there can be healing,
so that there can be freedom and liberation.
Holy Spirit, we ask you to come.
We ask you to have your way because we know that where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
There is freedom.
There is life and there's hope.
So where the enemy has come to kill, steal, and destroy and press down and oppress and discourage,
in Jesus' name, we just cast him out.
And we just thank you, God, that you're warring on our behalf tonight,
that where the enemy has come in like a flood, that you raise up a standard against him.
So help us, Lord, to trust that you're defending us, that you're fighting for us,
and to know that you're not a man that you should lie, that your promises are sure.
They're fixed.
So help us to hear what heaven is saying to us,
so that we can get an upgrade in our understanding and our revelation of your love, Father,
because your love is what casts out fear.
Your love is what casts out doubt and unbelief,
and it's what heals the brokenness of our hearts and our souls.
Help us to hear what your spirit is saying to us, in Jesus' name.
So I really felt led tonight.
Just briefly, I want to share, actually, a piece that I put together for my heart work group a couple weeks ago,
and this is what stood out to me.
The Lord is saying tonight, we want to focus on where are you stuck?
That's kind of the main theme tonight.
Where are you stuck currently, and where does God want to give you an upgrade?
Okay, so that's kind of the main overarching theme.
But here's what the Lord said.
I want you to ask them about the stories that they believe.
I want you to ask them to think about the stories that I want to help them.
I'm saying this almost as if on behalf of the Lord to all of you.
I want to help them step out of their old stories, their old limiting thoughts, and their old belief systems,
and I want to help them step into the new story that I am writing for them.
And so many of us, I don't know about you all, but we start walking along, and we've done the heart work,
and we've been in that intensive time, and we come out, and we start, you know, you all,
I think most of you know I've been married almost two years now, but I went through the process that you all,
a lot of you are in, the dating, and you're interacting with people, and you know what?
Guess what?
You're getting triggered sometimes, aren't you?
And you're getting stuck, and then you're hearing the lies, and the old tapes are popping up like nobody's business,
but what are we doing with what is coming up?
What are we doing with what the enemy is doing?
is saying. And how are we sorting that stuff out? Y'all, we got to get the tools back out.
It doesn't mean you have to go back into the ICU and the ER and go all the way back through all
that stuff. But we do need to continue to utilize the tools that God has given us through the
heartwork process. So I want you to really just be thinking about even today. And if you had a great
day and you felt like your mind was just on point, you were thinking only on things above and nothing
negative, maybe this doesn't apply to you. So maybe go back to yesterday or the most recent day
that just was a hard day in your mind. You know, the battlefield of the mind is real, you all.
I want you to think about the stories that you need to step out of tonight and be aware of the
stories that you're actually telling yourself because of pain and brokenness that still exist.
And I hear the Holy Spirit even just saying right now, some of you just need to be reminded that
it's not your fault. It's not your fault that you have old stories and old tapes that you have
to work through. And some of y'all, men and women alike, have gone through abuse. Y'all, for
some of you that have been any part of this movement long enough that's heard me talk even
about Brian and I's stories, we have very similar stories. He got, but just he's a guy and I'm a
woman. We both went through massive abuse in every way you can think of in our marriages.
And so, so interesting to me that, you know, God brought the two of us together. But even in that,
you know, you have things to unpack long after you go into relationships. So that's why it's so
important that we're learning these tools now and you can put these things in place now and continue
to develop a lifestyle of asking God really great questions. So I want you to just, these might not
be applicable to you, but I just want to kind of prime the pump a little bit before we start
opening up the heartwork seat. Some of you may tell yourself stories and thoughts like this.
You might have reactions like these. These again are just some examples.
Some of you, when you get let down, maybe something doesn't go your way, or maybe you just
were in a relationship and it didn't work out, or your friends stood you up, they didn't show up,
or your mom said something that really wounded you, or your sister fill in the blank, you all.
How many of you will say to yourself, well, it doesn't matter. I didn't really care about that
anyway, or I didn't really want that anyway. Maybe you're telling yourself the story of,
you know, let's see here. I got to see who God highlights here. Liza, you should just give up on
this already because it's just never going to work. What are you even doing here in the first place?
See, these are all the stories. These are the lies that the enemy is saying to us, and we're
continuing to meditate on these because our heart wounds partner with them because we don't believe
the truth yet. Maybe your story is I never get picked. God blesses everybody else, but I'm still
waiting on the sidelines. Just like you'll remember dodgeball in elementary school. I don't know if
you all, I mean, you're waiting for somebody to pick you, aren't you? And some of the kids got
picked right away. But you know, if you weren't super sporty or if you weren't a cool kid, you
might not have gotten picked right away. That's how we labeled things in elementary schools. Isn't that
crazy? But that's just how the human race is. But that's kind of what it feels like when I hear
people and I see the struggles and they're real. I'm not trying to minimize them. Pain is real
and sadness is real and hardship is real, but God's victory through Jesus Christ is also real
and everything that he died to give us is available. It's just we have to continue to heal
and heal and heal so that we can get more aligned with the freedom and the truth that he gave
us when he died. Maybe this is what you're hearing. This program takes too much time.
I'm tired of getting together online and not seeing results. Okay, so I just want, I'm curious,
I want to see in the chat, is any of this saying anything that you all are hearing? Do you hear
something similar, something different? I wanted to see in the chat, what are the lies you've been
battling? Because we're just going to go after, we're going to get the, we're going to get the
darkness out into the light so there can be healing and freedom because also God doesn't
want you to struggle alone. Okay, Audra says being passed by. Anyone else? It doesn't even
have to be the ones that I said. If there's a different one that you've been hearing,
let's put it in the chat.
is I wanna talk about this stuff.
You're not doing enough.
Okay, that's huge.
A lot of people say that.
There's something wrong with me,
not qualified for the upgrade, all right?
So you're qualified for the less than,
but you're not qualified for the upgrade.
If you're qualified for the other, guess what?
You're qualified for that upgrade too.
It's just about shifting our mentalities and our mindsets.
And I don't, I'm not trying to minimize it,
but y'all, this is truly what I learned.
I used to think that I was always
gonna struggle financially.
And I'm not saying I'm living in some palace or anything,
but man, God has really been just transforming
my heart and mind and the way I look at finances
and the blessings and the breakthrough
that had been unlocked, even in the last few months.
It is stuff that we had been praying for.
And then it's just like, just stuff started lining up.
So sometimes you don't see that tomorrow
the answer is coming, but that doesn't mean it's not coming.
For those of you that might not know,
I just wanna feel led to encourage y'all a little bit too.
If you haven't heard my story before,
I'm sorry, I'm trying to read the things at the same time.
I didn't go on the dating apps.
I didn't go on the dating apps over and over.
And Jackie kept talking to me about going on the dating apps
and I just didn't feel released.
And then the final time I prayed and I was like,
okay, you're right, I need to do this.
And it's not gonna happen like this for everyone.
I don't want people to get discouraged by this.
This was a supernatural thing, okay?
September 2nd of 2021, I went on the dating apps.
Brian, someone I probably would not have chosen on my own,
messaged me first on September 6th.
Y'all, we had our first date on September 12th.
He drove four hours to see me and have coffee with me.
And I couldn't believe it.
And you know what God showed me through that?
Is I didn't think I was worth that.
That's why it shocked me so much.
Deep down, I didn't even think I was worth a guy
driving four hours just to have coffee with me.
See, that's how the revealings for healing happen.
And it wouldn't have happened,
that healing wouldn't have happened to me
if I hadn't paused and thought and asked myself,
why, it is a blessing, it was a blessing,
but why is this such a shock to me?
There are a lot of good men out there.
Men, there are a lot of good women out there.
But if we don't believe we're worth it on the inside,
then we'll keep settling for less than.
And we'll keep believing that we don't deserve
that kind of kindness and goodness and treatment.
All right, so let's see here, what else do we got?
I don't see anyone doing that.
Okay, that's something else.
Yeah, you might not see that yet.
Remember yet is a key word you all
get really comfortable with yet.
It's my fault that I'm still single or stuck.
Okay, so let's talk about this fault.
Put this in the chat.
What's your fault?
Like, what did you do?
What are you doing wrong?
Let's hear some more about the lies there.
I feel like we're onto something.
I hear the lie that no man wants my children.
Okay, I'll just debunk that right now
because hey, you all, if you didn't know,
I'm like a spiritual mom to three kids that aren't mine.
And I love them like crazy.
I love them so much.
And they're the biggest blessing to my life.
And that was before I met Brian.
And then I got two more.
So now I'm a mom.
Well, his daughters don't call me mom yet,
but we're working towards just them loving me
and continuing to get to know me.
But y'all know what I'm saying?
Like God, he gave me three that weren't mine.
And then he sent me a husband that had two more.
Y'all know, I didn't wanna date anyone with kids
because I had already lost kids through divorce before.
They weren't mine, so I couldn't do anything about it.
So I'm here to tell you that hope can arise
and blessings can come where there has been brokenness
and destruction and where the enemy tried to take from you.
Okay, so Rhonda, there are good men out there
who will love your children
and they're gonna be excited about you and your kids.
All right, so as we keep going, I'm almost there.
And then I'm gonna open the seat
for whoever wants to get in it for a little bit tonight.
You don't get what you expect.
We get what we inspect and align with.
So I want you to inspect your thoughts.
Where are your thoughts and your heart postures leading you?
Because even as I'm starting to say positive things,
so many.
start to hear all the negative from the enemy, don't you?
Isn't that how he works?
He tries to sneak right in as positivity is going forth.
He's trying to come and say, well, you're not seeing that.
That's not happening to you.
You know, and I say that for everyone.
He does that to me too.
So where are your thoughts
and your heart postures leading you?
I want you to think about what you're thinking about
and don't just let your mind and your thoughts
and your feelings lead you down pathways
that are not bringing life to you.
Second Corinthians 10 five says,
we demolish arguments in every pretension
that sets itself up against the knowledge of God.
And we take captive every thought
and make it obedient to Christ.
When it talks about the high thing, the pretension,
we demolish arguments in every pretension.
That's a high thing.
What that means is everything that's elevated
and trying to raise itself up against who God is.
Y'all know that's what happened
when the fall happened, right?
Lucifer tried to raise himself up above who Christ was.
So we demolish all those things.
And then it says,
we set up that sets itself up against the knowledge of God.
And we take every thought captive
and make it obedient to Jesus Christ.
I want you to think about the barriers
that you're experiencing.
A barrier is anything that blocks
what's intended to pass through.
So when God is trying to get truth through to you,
a lot of times, even when you're in church
and you're listening to sermons,
y'all ever notice like distraction comes,
you're trying to listen to this even right now
and distraction and people are texting you
and you're getting messages
or you're hearing the lies inserting really quick.
He wants, it's like the soil, okay?
So there's rocky soil.
I forget all three of them, y'all.
Now I'm just going off off-road in a little bit,
but there's good soil, there's rocky soil
and whatever the third one.
Someone help me.
I should know this.
I do know it, but I just riffed on that one
just going offline off my notes.
Isn't it thorns?
Yes, thank you.
All right, so what is the soil of your heart?
What's the soil condition?
Because that's also going to impact
how you receive what's being released
every time you log in.
And there's no shame in it, you all.
I cannot tell you even like,
I'm now almost married two years.
We're trying to get pregnant.
I can't tell you how many times the enemy wants to tell me
that that's not going to happen.
But I have to choose to believe in what God has told me
and God has said some really important things to me
and continues to encourage me and edify me.
I don't want you all to worry.
I'm doing, I'm actually doing really good,
but I want to use that as an example
because it's no matter,
it doesn't matter what we're believing for
or hoping for.
It could be a job, it could be an apartment,
it could be a car or a friend.
Maybe some of you all just feel lonely
and you just need friends.
And the enemy is just saying,
yeah, that is never going to happen
because you don't ever get friends.
But are you partnering with that?
Because that's not truth.
It's not true.
What does God say about you?
So I want you to pause and think about your thoughts.
Where did they come from?
Where did they start?
What are they rooted in?
Are they rooted in overwhelm?
Are they rooted in fear?
Are they rooted in, it's a risk?
You're afraid because love is a risk.
Y'all, love is a risk.
Marriage is a risk, but man, it's a good risk.
It is.
I don't, I know the world wants to tell you
that it's not worth it.
And the enemy wants to tell you
that there are no, there's nothing good out there for you.
There's no good spirit mates, but he is a liar.
Is it also potentially coming out of a place of invitation?
Because that's the difference.
Y'all know that God invites,
but the enemy is the one that tries to expose, intrude,
you know, just push his way on in.
But God stands at the door of our hearts and he knocks.
The Bible, that's what it says.
He's not forcing his way in tonight.
Nothing I say, no matter if I joke, if I'm serious,
is gonna penetrate and get in
without the presence of the Holy Spirit into your heart,
into the areas you need it.
But he's standing at the door of your heart
and he's knocking and he's saying,
are you gonna let me come in to this area,
into this lie that you're still believing
and partnering with, even though you don't mean to,
you're subconsciously still partnering with that thing.
So I want you to be thinking about that.
Where does God want you to let go of these?
negative, intrusive thoughts so that you can, what?
We said it earlier, receive the new
and step into the new story that God has for you.
And here's the thing, God, the enemy, excuse me, not God,
the enemy will also come with all kinds of evidence
to tell you and prove to you why the thing
that you're both leaving for is never gonna happen.
Y'all, I can't tell you how many people,
I just tell people now, if they even start talking to me
about what my age is or what they think the stats are
about having kids older, I just, I don't even talk
to people that have no faith anymore about it
because I just know better.
We gotta protect our stories, y'all, we do.
The Bible says that we should guard our hearts
and our minds through Christ Jesus.
Some of you, that's where you need to be in this next week.
You need to really be careful who you're sharing
your promise and your story with,
what you're believing for with,
because if you're sharing it with people that have no faith,
you know what Jesus did with those people?
He loved them, but he sent them out of the room, didn't he?
Because they didn't have the faith
for him to raise the girl up.
Jesus is in the room tonight and he wants
to resurrect some dreams in you.
He wants to resurrect life and truth and he wants to heal.
And he wants you to just, you know, we talk,
I don't know if the guys would know this,
but the ladies will probably remember the squatters.
Y'all, what do we do with squatters in our house?
Does anyone remember from heartwork?
What do we do with the squatters?
The squatters, they're people that just come
when you don't live in your home and they take up residence
and then guess what, in some states, when it's cold out,
they actually legally can stay there
and you can't kick them out.
Crazy, right?
But it's truth.
But that's what the enemy also does
and he's trying to just remain and squat in your heart.
We're talking about houses,
but we're talking about the heart.
They have to get evicted.
Y'all, good job for those that you were answering.
I didn't know if people would remember.
All right, so we're evicting some stuff tonight.
So Tammy's got her hand up.
So I'm gonna start with Tammy.
Tammy, I would love for you, thank you.
Wait, where I lost you.
I see Michaela now up in my corner.
So Tammy, you can leave your hand raised.
Okay.
That helps me see you.
Okay.
And then just come on screen too, if you can.
Okay, well, I'm not completely totally dressed right now.
Okay, yeah, don't come on screen
and go ahead and talk without that.
Okay.
Go ahead.
Well, lately my issue seems to be like worrying about,
you know, what I should have done in the past
that I didn't do and just wasted years
and things I didn't do and beating myself up
and, you know, thinking how much better it would have been
if I'd have done this and that I was supposed to do.
What the heck was I thinking?
Why didn't I do this years ago?
And, cause a lot of my life last few decades
has kind of been kind of wasted a lot of ways.
And I've put up with a lot of the spirit of rejection
that I've had on me since I was a little bitty.
I haven't, it's better than it used to be.
I've gotten rid of it somewhat,
but it's still keeping me down.
And lately this fear has been getting into me
like fear over that and fear of what the future
is gonna be like because of that.
And, you know, with the economy like it is
and what's been prophesied to happen
with this economic crash and whatnot,
you know, I'm just like, oh my God, what's gonna happen?
You know, I just always had a real hard time
trusting God for provision anyway.
But I'm starting to think of verses now
or Jesus addressed that or Bible addresses that,
you know, just different verses,
but still it's kind of a,
I'm just tired of wrestling with it all the time.
I'm just so tired of it.
Okay, thank you for sharing.
I'm gonna kind of step in here a minute or two,
and then we might talk back and forth.
We'll see where the Lord leads us.
So as you were talking about the shoulda, woulda, coulda,
the first thing that stands out to me is shame.
So the shame and guilt and condemnation
that you're still wrestling with.
So my question for you, Tammy,
is have you fully forgiven yourself?
I don't know, I was just unsure about that,
just really insecure about it, feeling, well, like,
can I do that?
Can I, just this unworthiness that's been in me
since I was a little kid.
Well, so what I'm asking you is, have you ever done,
let me rephrase it,
have you ever done the forgiveness prayer sheet
specifically to work through forgiving yourself?
I don't think so.
Okay, so that is one of your to-do items this week.
So I want you to get that worksheet back out.
And for the guys, I hope you guys have access to that.
I think you all do.
If you don't, post in your group and let me know.
I wanna make sure that you do that.
And I'll see you guys next week.
Bye.
You all have the tools that I'm talking about tonight
from the heart work course.
So Tammy, when you go through that forgiveness prayer,
I really want you to ask the Holy Spirit
to reveal to you every area
that you need to forgive yourself.
Because the shoulda, woulda, coulda
is all based in that shame, guilt and condemnation,
which is linked to things from the past
that mistakes you made.
And so that's where right away that signaling to me
that you haven't released yourself
from the prison, so to speak.
The second thing I wanna hone in on,
you were talking about the spirit of rejection
and then you were talking about fear,
and then that kind of led you into hard time trusting God
and then the economy and what's gonna happen.
And so with that, you all,
I just wanna pause for a minute
and remind us, all of us, myself included,
because when she said that, man, that's so true, right?
The enemy will use whatever he can
to get us to think that God is not on the throne.
That God, the creator of heaven and earth,
A, we have to fear that he can't hold our life together
in his hands, right?
Isn't that kind of the core?
When we believe that the economy is,
you know, and these are real things, y'all.
I mean, even when we save and we have money,
there's no, we can't put our hope in money.
We can't put our hope in things.
Our hope is in the Lord, the maker of heaven and earth.
And so when we have a hard time trusting God,
the thing I always encourage people to do
is to go back and ask the Lord to reveal when,
it's not even just,
when is the first time that that entered,
but now it's, okay,
when was the most recent time
I started not trusting God again?
Because when you go through hard work,
you start growing in your trust again.
You might not be all the way there,
but where is that lack of trust still coming from?
What is the root of that?
And a lot of times from what I've found,
it has to do with rejection, abandonment, loneliness.
Those are the core things that when we are kids,
and we experience that in any depth, you know,
especially when it's really deep,
we can struggle to trust that God actually loves us
and wants to provide for us.
And not only that he wants to, but that he will,
because that's the difference too.
So I want to encourage you all,
just if you're struggling with trust,
just to start asking God to reveal the areas
that you still are need revealing for healing
regarding abandonment.
You mentioned rejection already,
but I really feel like the abandonment
and deep loneliness are connected there as well, okay?
So come back after you do some of that work,
come back in the group and tell us,
tell us what the Lord has revealed,
create a post in the group,
because we want to continue to coach you on that.
And we want to see what is God leading you into
regarding freedom, celebrate your wins with it too.
Ladies and gentlemen,
let's be people that celebrate our wins
just as much as we focus on the negative things
we're facing, okay?
All right, Tammy, thank you so much for sharing.
Claire, go ahead.
One more question, if you don't mind.
Oh, yep.
I don't know how to forgive myself.
It's like something's blocking me from it
or some belief or something
that I don't really understand how to say it.
I don't even know what that looks like.
You know what I mean?
I do.
And I'm gonna, I don't want to give a simple answer,
but I truly have a simple answer.
It's a choice to forgive.
It's a choice to forgive ourselves.
It's a choice to forgive other people.
Y'all are not always gonna feel like forgiving people.
I mean, even, you know, Brian and I were,
man, we were just getting knocked around
by fellow Christians in that church we were in.
And man, that was hard.
It was hard.
But God just kept saying, just forgive them, Bethany,
because the enemy is trying to get you caught up
in bitterness and resentment and unforgiveness
because he wants to quench the Holy Spirit in you.
So just keep forgiving.
You don't have to let them keep getting close to you,
but we gotta forgive, but it's a choice.
So Tammy, my response to you
is it's a choice to forgive yourself, okay?
Start with the choice, you know,
and then allow God to help, you know,
help your feelings and your mindsets
and your thought processes and all that stuff,
your body even physically to align
with the choice that you make, all right?
So that's, it really is just like, you know,
you all accepting Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior
isn't this big, strong.
Oh, is it sometimes we make, we make these things way harder than they are,
but it's because the enemy tells us that we have to, it's a free gift.
Receiving Jesus Christ as our Lord and savior is a free gift.
And so is his forgiveness.
And so is his mercy and his grace.
It's all free because Jesus died so that we could have it.
Yeah.
So somehow I'm not mixed.
I used to think forgiving people meant like justifying their sin or
different stuff that it doesn't mean.
I know better than that now.
But when it comes to myself, it's like, what's, what's going on in
my mind that's keeping me, I don't understand how to apply that same
principle to myself that I can't to other people, that's what I don't
understand why I can't do that.
It's probably rooted in a lot of times, uh, and you can, again, share
more about this in the group, but I would encourage you to look at how
you like, if your parents were really harsh and nothing you ever did was
good enough, or even if it wasn't your parents, if it was another authority
figure, a lot of times what we experience in real life, we will apply to God
and Jesus Christ and the Holy spirit.
And so we, we believe they have those same expectations of
behaviors and they don't.
Yeah.
Great questions, Tammy.
Such good questions.
You're welcome.
Thank you for sharing.
Claire, go ahead.
Hmm.
Hey.
Hey, my share is, um, or where I feel stuck is just my kind of quick story is
I've been in Dallas for three years and I came here because God, uh, really
answered a big prayer and I was unhappy in my prior job and I was networking
for like a year and a half doing everything I knew to do and finally
got open a door and so here I am.
Um, and at the time it was like a dream job.
Um, I had wanted to live in Dallas for 10 years.
It never worked out.
I gave up, I didn't care.
And then the job happened to be in Dallas.
So it just all kind of fell into place.
So, uh, last year I got laid off and it was around the time my dad died.
It was just a lot God provided and I have a new job at the same
company, so it all kind of worked out.
I'm in a role that I'm not, that I wouldn't have picked, but I have an
amazing boss and it's been exactly what I needed for the past year, even
though, you know, it's not my dream job.
I'm at a point where I really, really want a promotion and I've started
to push for that and network for that.
I'm not going to get it with my current job role because basically
they don't have the finances, even though my boss likes me, whatever.
So, um, I'm really, really unhappy because I'm just feeling really stuck
about, um, I had thought to myself, like I wouldn't stay in Dallas past
probably two years now I've been here three, unless I met my husband.
Um, and that at that point, if I had not met him, I would move closer
to home and just get a remote job.
Well, I've been searching for a remote job and like, you know, it's
not, um, the search is still on.
It's, it's not like I've given up, but, um, it has not been easy to find.
And so I just feel like I'm in this weird place of, I really want a promotion.
I really want a better job that I enjoy.
I also really want to get married.
And it kind of feels like I might have to pick one.
Um, in the sense of like, maybe I just move home and pick like a mediocre
job, even if I make about what I make now and stay remote or possibly less.
Right.
So, um, I've just been really wrestling with that and, uh, prayed about it quite
a bit and it feels like for now, I don't want to make a drastic move and just
quit my job, although I think about it constantly, um, because I'm unhappy.
Um, but I am just trying to trust God.
I do feel like he's going to provide.
Um, I'm just quite not, not quite sure what to do in the meantime, going back
to that other waiting period I was in before this job, I did everything I knew
to do, you know, I just, I like took tests.
I was going to go back to grad school.
I was just like, I'm unhappy.
I will do anything to move forward.
And then God opened a door.
So, um, that's just really, I, you know, and a very much like an executor.
And if I have a plan, I'll execute the plan, but I'm feeling very like
flustered of what to do, because I don't really feel clear about it.
Other than like, put everything out there and just kind of trust God.
Okay.
So here we go.
You ready?
All right.
First thing.
And I was going to start with something else, but as soon as you said it and I'm
chuckling, but so sometimes, you know, us executors, we have our plans, but you
know, God orders our steps clear.
And sometimes God is not trying to cause us to suffer and to be in a waiting room,
but he's trying to get us to rely on him and let him create the
better plan that we then follow.
Um, and so I feel like God is trying to teach you how to.
In him and let him do the heavy lifting, but you keep trying to do the heavy lifting
Okay. So one of the things I want to ask you, um, are you still using your Jesus cares board? Do you still do that?
Um my screen. Oh, oh, no. I'm sorry. Okay. Okay. Okay. All right
Maybe not as consistently as I should I've been trying to remain grateful, but I can do better
Yeah, so I would encourage you to go back and revamp, you know
Some of y'all this is for everybody if you haven't visited your Jesus cares board in a while
I would encourage you to redo it
I I did that right before we moved and it felt it was such a relief like all these things
I hadn't realized I was carrying on myself. I
Just like when I put it all on the board. I was just like, okay like
like it was like a breath of fresh air and so
Yeah, Hannah put put and and this is the thing why do we put it away, you know
Let's let's make Jesus cares board a part of our life
And and just knowing because there's gonna be things
Ebbs and flows things that are gonna come in and out and so I would encourage you Claire or anyone else if you're struggling in
An area, but you know take some time in prayer revamp that board or put it on your board
And then here's the other thing that came up in my my spirit
I just did this with our group today. We went through the super or excuse me yesterday
we went through the supernatural surrender prayer and
We did the permission slip together all over again, and I have people in in the fifth week of people in the first week
They're all in different places in the heart work now
and I would encourage you Claire to get that back out and read through that and really
Surrender this job in this situation and you know, do I move do I wait for my spirit mate here?
All these things that are kind of swirling and swirling around and just say Lord
You know what? I give you permission all over again to come into my heart, you know
Help me to see the things I can't see help me to release these things to you that I'm trying to take care of and
Fix and figure out, you know
And it'll lead you through that whole prayer and and you might want to just read that daily right now just to help your heart
in the first thing in the day or you know, not legalistic whenever you can do it, but just
So that you're aligning your heart with the reminder that oh, yeah God
Like you're gonna help me do this
Like you've got me and I don't have to be afraid and I don't have to get into worry
Because you're gonna work it out for me now. He's gonna lead us to partner with him, right?
He's gonna lead us at some point
He'll probably lead you to apply for a job or he'll lead you to do something
but I feel like right now that I just see this inner struggle like this figure it out figure it out figure it out and
I heard the word say
contentment
He wants you to be at peace and have contentment in every situation in every circumstance
It doesn't mean you have to stay in that job forever
He just wants to know that you'll choose to surrender and trust him to see it through for you
so would encourage you to do that and
Let's again anybody that I that we do the seat coaching with would encourage you all to come into the groups and post just so
I don't have to say that for everyone and I definitely want to hear you know
What God does with these, you know homework assignments if you will that I give you I call it homework
But you know, I feel like supernatural God work is a better phrase because he'll use it
If y'all if y'all lean into it, he'll definitely set you free in ways. You just don't even know you still need it
Thank you so much for sharing Elizabeth. Go ahead
All right, um, so I've noticed this pattern and it stems from
beliefs that I took on
about not being enough and
A lot of anxiety about being desired and fear of not being desirable and
It's caused a very familiar pattern to happen in my dating relationships
Where I will go out on one or two dates and then they're like you're great
But and which my dad used to say you're great, but dot dot dot
and I have also felt like
Especially
The last few years and then I had a dream recently where I felt like the Lord
showed me that there's been a lot of spiritual opposition to
me coming into marriage and
I've done a lot of work on
Really trying to challenge these negative beliefs
Challenging the beliefs I have about God's goodness for my life and disappointment
The last couple of years I have met some really incredible guys, but it's been
like you're great, you're amazing, but like I, it would require me to surround her and do things
that they are not wanting to do. Um, or another one was like, yes, it was a mutual yes on both
our ends of like, yes, I'm interested in getting to know you. I find you attractive, but I realized
I need to do my heart healing and I'm not ready. So it feels like there's just been like this
constant, like, oh, this looks like it and disappointment. And I'm at a place where I
can't move forward further in my life in so many ways without a partner. So I'm really had this
sense this week of just like feeling really stuck of like, I have done so much internal work to grow
and mature. Um, and, uh, just kind of don't know what else to do, um, to see it things shift and
to see the breakthrough. Cause I feel like I've been contending for so long. Um, and this pattern
hasn't seemed to, to shift. So that's, I was so grateful when you posted about this. Yeah.
So Elizabeth, here is what is coming up. So number one, I'm so sorry that your dad said that to you.
Um, can you tell me, like, give me one example of when your dad said that to you? Like,
um, I would, why did he say it? How, like, what was the context?
Yeah. Um, I think I was in junior high high school and, um, I had gotten in a fight with
him and my mom about something. And it usually was my mom trying to intervene, um, between us
and because I'd never felt heard. Um, I would lash out and like get really big and intense
emotionally. And so his response is you're such a great person, but then it's like your personality
or these things, the way you respond, like for me, it just felt like it totally undermined everything
that he said good about me. And that has shown up in like, you're great. You're attractive. You're
like, but I don't want you. And so it feels very familiar in that sense. So it feels, it's like,
like, but you didn't get to know me. And now I've realized how many, how much of like, because I
felt so judged about myself, how I cut people off or even connecting with my personality and who I
am. And the last guy I went out with, it was incredibly healing of being told, I love your
intensity. Like you're amazing. But then he was like, well, I need to finish this divorce process.
I need to heal some more. Um, so it felt like once again, God, like here I've been contending
and what looked like hope got dashed. And that's where I'm feeling that has been such a pain point
in my life. And the enemy has really used it to create some lies around, um, God that he's
constantly dangling the carrot in front of me. And so I've been really trying to do some work
around how I see God and believe. Um, and yet I, I, there's, there's no, no high quality person
that I'm like, I can't even test if things are different. Um, I yeah, there has, there there's,
it's been quiet. Okay. So here's a couple of things. So as you're talking more about that,
and that was the reason I kind of wanted some clarity because I could take what your dad said
to you in so many different directions. But now that I understand a little bit more of like,
how did this come out and what was the additional things that were said and all of that? I wrote
down too much. The lie is I'm too much. I'm too much for them, or I'm not enough. There's always
these ping pongs back and forth. Right. And those are typically two massive, big core lies that
people feel and believe and then partner with subconsciously. And so, um, even, even on the
good flip side, you just said this last guy said, I love your intensity, but this, and here's the
thing. I'm not saying it's bad for us to be intense. You know, y'all know, I'm kind of can
be intense to be real serious and I can go after some things, but I think that's also another way
that the enemy is trying to reinforce that you're a lot. And you're not, I think that we come out of
I would encourage you to come out of agreement with in partnership with that lie that you are,
you're a whole lot. You're too much because it's, it's, it's just kind of sticking around and
following you. Like it belongs like a friend and it's not your friend. And the other thing that
came up when I was thinking about this originally is, um, I really want to encourage you.
So you can be that lie that I just said,
but also the phrase how you said,
because you said the guys are saying
kind of the same thing, you're great,
but I wanna encourage you to write that out
on a piece of paper, sincerely,
like take time to do this tonight when you get off of here,
like even if it's five minutes,
it doesn't have to be pretty.
I want you to write a couple of the massive core lies,
but definitely putting that you're great,
but or I'm too much, whatever comes up for you.
And then I want you to literally put a big fat X
and I know this sounds so simple,
but y'all sometimes we just need to cut that thing
and just say, you know what?
No, like you cannot keep coming in here anymore.
And we need this physical activation representing
like I am coming out of agreement with this stuff
and this cannot come into my heart or my mind
and it cannot remain here.
And so as we do that, then here's the flip side,
don't forget you all, how do we overcome the lie?
We have to replace it with truth.
And I gave someone this example last night
and it just literally, as soon as you started talking,
I heard the Lord say, she needs the same thing.
And so what I said is after you do that,
I want you to get, it can be post-it notes,
it can just be other pieces of paper that you tape on it,
but I want you to start asking the Lord for the truth.
And every truth he gives you,
I want you just to tape it on top of that paper
that has the lies on it.
Because I want you to start to physically see
that those things are gonna start replacing the lies
in your life.
And that that is what you're gonna partner with.
And here's gonna be the kicker Elizabeth,
I can bet you that the enemy is gonna send someone
to say the same thing to you.
And you're gonna have a choice to make.
You're gonna have a choice to say, you know what?
No, thank you, God bless you
and don't partner with that.
Don't stay there, don't linger with it
because that's not your story anymore.
As of tonight, we're serving the enemy on your behalf,
I am doing it for you.
I'm serving the enemy an eviction notice.
He cannot continue to bring that to your door
and force it down your throat.
Again, it's your choice to partner with me in this
and step into freedom.
And the enemy, oftentimes you all,
he'll come in the same place
and he'll come in the same place
and he'll keep trying to hit that same place.
And then when we get victory over that, guess what?
He'll try to figure out
if he can come in through another door.
That's just how he works.
And so we don't live afraid of that.
We just live with the knowledge of that
so that we can resist the devil.
And it says, when we resist the devil, what happens?
He has like, he literally can't,
he cannot stay when light comes in the room,
when Jesus Christ, the light of Christ
is brought into the room, the enemy cannot stay there.
He can't.
So you putting that truth up
and really partnering with the truth,
like speaking it out over yourself,
like every single time, this is sincerely stuff I did.
I remember the first time I heard Jackie ever say,
come out of alignment with independence
and come into alignment with interdependence on God.
And I was like, man, that's so good
because my whole life I had prided myself
on how independent I was.
I took care of myself and I told myself that story
because I had so much pain
from other people not taking care of me.
So the only way I knew how to deal with that
and cope with it was to pride myself
on how able I was at taking care of myself.
But guess what?
I had to learn how to come out of alignment.
And I'm not saying this is you, Elizabeth,
but I just felt led to go into this too.
Come out of alignment with independence
and get my heart ready
to come into interdependence with God,
but why?
To be in relationship with him,
but also because y'all, he was getting ready to send me
a man that was chivalrous, that wanted to bless me
and do things to help me.
Y'all, he doesn't want me to even carry my food bag
or my food box.
I'm serious.
He loves to help me.
And if I hadn't learned how to receive help
from the Lord and other people,
I can bet you I would have scared him off
because I was so independent
that I just didn't need his help.
So this is why the heart work is so important, y'all.
So Elizabeth, I can't wait to see what happens
and the truth that comes.
And I don't know what you're gonna do with this,
but I got, this will give you a little chuckle.
And so we gotta get the but.
out of your life, okay?
Cause the butts are the big problem here.
So seriously, I'm chuckling a little bit
because then you said that they were then saying yes to you
but this, so we gotta get the butts out of here
because there's gonna be a spirit mate
that's gonna see you and recognize you
and see your value and what you bring to the table
as a couple and they're not gonna run,
they're not gonna change their mind
and see just as soon as you start partnering
with that truth and really stay there,
like fight for that truth,
I believe that that is when it will enter in.
The enemy always wants us to go back.
It's kind of like the prodigal, you know,
when he left the palace, you all, I mean, think about it.
He left all this abundance that he had
and he went and he was eaten, you know,
like less than the pigs basically.
And sometimes I hate to use that as an example,
but it's true.
Sometimes that's how our thinking is.
I was thinking literally also about this today
and I wasn't gonna say this,
but I do feel like it's coming back in my spirit.
So maybe it was from the Lord.
We were watching a little bit of the Olympics
and I was just thinking, watching Simone Biles
and her routine and how much in the swimmers
and just this one swimmer, I forget what her name is,
Ledecky or Ledesky, I'm sorry if I'm messing up her name,
but man, she was just so far, you know,
in front of all the other people,
just the dedication and the commitment
that it must take to get to where they're at.
And I just started thinking about the mindset
that they must have.
And, you know, I imagine that they had hard days.
I imagine that they all at some point faced
the thought of giving up to some degree,
but there's something inside of them that they don't.
They don't give up, they keep going.
And I just was thinking to myself,
like how many times in the past,
like the enemy really tried to get me to think
like you should just quit, you should just quit.
Y'all, the enemy told me after I dated the girl's dad
and I mean, I was with that guy for six years
and he just, you know, treated me like crap,
but I let him, crazy, right?
When I left that, the enemy was so quick to tell me
how I would never figure it out.
And that's the story he fed me for a really long time.
You are the enemy, you are the enemy.
He fed me for a really long time.
You are never gonna get this right.
You can get all this other stuff right,
but you can't do this.
I'm not saying I got it all figured out,
but I love my husband and I love my life.
I feel like I'm living a completely different life.
And that can be the story for all of you too.
It can be.
We have to partner with truth.
The ladies, the guys might not know this,
but the ladies, some of y'all know,
I started walking around my apartment,
wearing white dresses, telling myself,
Bethany Stanko, you are a bride.
You are a bride.
I kept talking to myself.
I just kept declaring because God told me I was a bride.
And I know maybe that's not the guy's thing,
but y'all can.
Like, hey, I am a man of honor, integrity,
and I will be able to lead my wife in love
and care for my family, provide for,
whatever your mindset struggle is,
you all know what the stories are
that the enemy is trying to convince you that you can't do.
And God's trying to say you can tonight.
You can.
Thank you so much, Elizabeth,
for sharing and asking your question.
Stephanie, go ahead.
So thank you, Bethany, for everything you've done.
I feel like I've had so much breakthrough in this program,
so I just wanted to start with that.
But I'm noticing right before we got on this call,
I had a situation and I was like,
okay, I need to talk about this.
I've had a few situations where,
so one at work where I have a client
and her insurance company just hasn't been releasing funds
that are owed to me and it's accumulating
and I've spent so many hours on the phone
trying to figure it out and it's thousands of dollars.
And then I've had just like random bills
like way above what they should be.
And then today I just got a bill for my own insurance
that should have been covered
that I like had checked on before.
And so when I'm in these situations and I'm talking to the people or the companies,
I just, it's like my blood starts boiling and I get so frustrated because it just, it feels like this injustice.
And it's like, I don't want to go to this victim mindset, but it, I have to battle that.
Like it feels like, oh, the enemy is just coming after me.
And I, I'm like, I do all the declarations.
I pray. I'm trying to trust God to like figure it out.
But it's been months of this.
And I just get so frustrated that I'm like,
Does it remind you of anything like when you were younger, any kind of injustice?
Is that anything coming up that it's linked into for you when this is happening?
Yeah, I'm sure it's connected to some abuse in my childhood where it's like,
because I think what comes up is like, no one's doing anything about this.
No one's taking me seriously.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay. So, and when I point this out, don't get embarrassed, but I want to just do this because it teaches everybody.
So y'all, when I asked her that question, when she went to respond,
and sometimes this happens to me when I'm talking to you,
I find it interesting.
I tend to have to cough at times where I'm getting ready to release something.
You know, that might be even my own, you know, stress or something that I'm trying,
breakthroughs coming for somebody.
But when I asked you that question, you went to answer your voice crackled a little bit.
And it sounded like you almost felt like you had something in your throat there for a sec.
Is that how it felt?
Yeah. Yeah.
Like I feel the emotion coming up.
Okay. Okay.
Okay. So that tells me that the way I call it, there's some heat on that.
Okay. So that is signaling to me that you,
there might be some additional healing that God wants because that happened when you said no one is doing anything.
So like, kind of like it resonates with a phrase, like, you know, no one's fighting for me.
No one's warring on my behalf.
Like I'm having to fight this battle by myself and nothing is happening.
And so I want to encourage you just to,
you don't have to go all the way back into that stuff from when you were little.
You know, you guys did, you all did a lot of that when you were in heart work,
but I do want to encourage you just to ask the Lord if there's any additional healing he's wanting to do.
He's not causing these situations to happen at work,
but I do believe he wants to use them to bring about additional healing in you.
And so I would encourage you just to talk to him a little bit about that.
But also something that I heard when you were talking interesting to this morning,
I was listening to this prophetic message, if you will.
And the guy was praying about and talking about delay.
And how many times we don't realize that the delay is because the Prince of Persia,
you know, the enemy, you know, uses all these different forces.
But the Prince of Persia is talked about in the Bible, how he tries to delay an answer from coming.
God's already released it to us, but he's trying to hinder it.
And sometimes, you know, the intercession, and it sounds like you are, you're trying to forgive,
you're trying to do all the things and keep your, you know, you said, I'm doing the declarations.
I'm trying, but it keeps happening.
And so to me, the fact that you keep facing the same thing also,
it's not something that you've done to create it,
but I feel like the enemy is trying to hinder the blessing.
And not even the blessing, just what you're owed.
That's what I wrote down.
Pay what you owe.
Like, pay me what you owe me.
And so that's what led me to ask you about injustice when you were younger.
Was there any time, you know, that you felt, and you already answered this,
but just to continue to help you unpack this some more later.
Is there anybody that you still feel like owes you something?
Maybe an apology or anything like that.
Just really praying into that as well.
And potentially, just if there is someone that you just really feel like,
man, they owe me an apology, and maybe there's a little bit of bitterness there
or resentment because they didn't apologize,
I would encourage you to do some forgiveness there and just really release them.
I don't know about you all, but when people hurt me,
I really do want them to come and apologize.
I do.
I think that's human nature.
But a lot of times, they don't.
And I find that interesting.
I'm not saying not everyone.
The people that are healthy do.
But when people aren't healthy, they don't,
they're afraid of apologizing and taking ownership.
They don't know how to do it or all these different kind of things.
But just want to encourage you to kind of let go.
lean into that more. And the Prince of Persia is the one
that's delaying the money. I really feel pretty confident
about that. Yeah, if you look that up in the word, you know,
that that's time where there was all the wrestling, you know, you
know, walked away with his hip and all that change all that
that's Yeah, thank you, Aaron joy. I love my helper Cheryl's
been telling people where the hard work stuff sad want to
shout out Cheryl and Aaron put in the reference there. I
appreciate you all. You guys are so amazing. And so yeah,
Stephanie, pray into that. And we look forward to hearing what
God does. And I'm at the end here, I'm going to pray over
everybody for any kind of things that are being held up like
that. We'll pray for for God to come in. Because here's here's
the flip side. Thank you, Lord, for reminding me. The angel
Michael came also on the scene there. And he brought the
solution. So the solutions on the way. Okay. And just a quick
question, like, with the recent bill, I got, I think it was a
miscommunication, because I had checked on a new insurance that
this place took it before, like several times. They said they
did and turns out. So it's like, do I do I just pay it? Because I
have the money? Or do I you know, like,
well, okay, so here is where I'll draw the line. Yeah. So
that's where you're going to need to ask the Lord about that
personally. Okay. Because I feel like, I mean, I know you just
explained it to me. But I don't feel I'd have to really know the
whole picture to really give you an answer. And I don't feel like
I'm feeling a caution from the Lord. Yeah, you need to hear
from the Lord on that and follow what he's telling you to do
regarding that. Okay. Thank you. You're welcome. All right, Don,
go ahead. And you all I know it's nine o'clock. If you need
to hop off. I totally understand. But I am gonna I am
gonna do Don and Abby. I think Robin, you just added again. So
I'll let Robin go. But that after that, I'll have to stop
for the night. Okay. All right, Don, go ahead.
Oh, thank you. Hi, Bethany. Hi. Yeah. Hi. One of my biggest
things with my mindset and the biggest struggle I'm having now
it always goes back to the same issue for me. I'm trying to do
better on it. And it's with the my lack of finance. So it's a
poverty mindset, lack. I have a lack all the time scarcity. God
doesn't want to bless me. I'm not worthy to be blessed. And so
when these things come up, it always has to do with my
finances that God does not want to bless me all that, you know,
he's not going to provide for you. And I go back to times of
like when God did not provide for me like when I lost housing
when I was homeless. And the devil will always throw that
back up in my face that I was a Christian spirit filled and was
homeless. Well, God didn't provide for you. Well, you see
that's going to happen again. So with financial I just moved
recently and I was triggered because and my Christian friends
meanwhile, they always say well just pray and believe God just
type just give just pray and believe God and God's gonna the
money's gonna happen the money will come through, but it
doesn't. And so then I lose my trust. And then I begin to worry
and then that worry will say, well, God, why is this not
happening? So I'm in debt right now, you know, because of my
move, I'm trying to get out of the debt. I have a big call. I
have a big a big a big call to God on my life. I got a
scholarship to go back to school. I'm supposed to start
school in three weeks, but there's no money to start the
school. And everybody's saying, Oh, God's gonna come through.
Oh, just have faith sister just have faith. That's easy for them
to say, but I need to see it like where is where is it? So
God called me here. I'm like, then you need to provide and
that's what I keep saying. But in my mind is saying that but
I'm like, do I really believe that? No, I mean, I'm like,
really afraid about starting school in three weeks, because I
don't have the money. So if I don't have the money, I can't do
it. And then it's like, you don't trust God. And then my
mind will say, Oh, you don't trust the Lord, you have no
trust. So condemn myself.
Yeah, so okay, so here's where I'm going to go with this one.
Y'all there's balance in everything. Okay? In the
kingdom, there's balance, there's not religion. And here's
the thing. Sometimes God is going to ask us to step out in
faith. But I think wisdom, far outweighs faith in a lot of a
lot of things. And I would really encourage you just to
start getting into Proverbs and reading Proverbs on a regular
basis. Proverbs is going to give you wisdom in decisions like
this, it's going to tell you like the way to go and the way
that fools go. And I'm not saying you're a fool. But just,
you know, sometimes the people that are just saying
People that are just saying, Oh, have faith. Oh, have faith. Go do this. Whether the money is there
or not. Well, okay. Maybe the money will show up, but we also need to look at if I'm being like,
I look at my own life. So I'll use my life as an example in the past. Um, I mean, I used to just
give, give, give, give, give, give the guy I was dating. I gave and gave and gave until I didn't
even have for myself. Well, I could blame him for that, or I could take ownership of that.
And so I'll say the same thing. A lot of times we blame God because God didn't come through for us.
But sometimes it's because we're choosing to keep spending our money.
And I love, and I don't mean this just towards you, Don, myself, I was doing that.
And so I had to really look at like, okay, what is the heart issue? Like behind why I'm
giving all the time. It's amazing that I'm a giver. I know that God is blessed by me being
a giver, but Jackie talks a lot about this, any gift overextended y'all that's a signal.
That's a signal that there's heartwork that's needed there because we're, we're getting a
need filled by overextending that in some way, shape or form. So I had to look at, okay, well,
is it that, you know, I just don't know how to handle my own finances. And so I just keep saying,
well, God will come through. Well, God will come through if I give to this person, God will come
through. But then what, when I can't pay my bills, then I'm mad at God because he didn't come through.
I mean, this is a common story, even in a lot of churches, Christians, this is how we live,
right? So I would encourage you just to really sincerely, and this is my honest to goodness,
get in Proverbs because God wants to give you wisdom and what to do. I'm not saying that God
won't come through for you, Don, and give you the money that you need. But I also think you have to
be really careful, all of us, we have to be really careful about who we're letting speak into our
lives. And we have to also, and this isn't in a judgmental way, you know, like I said earlier,
like my best, one of my best friends, I cannot talk to her about baby stuff very much at all.
I let her in, we talk about it, for a while there, I didn't really bring it up at all,
because she started coming at me with all these opinions from doctors and people that she knows.
And I was just like, I finally said, I love you, but I'm believing for this. So I just feel like
I need to tell you, like, I can't receive any of that from you. Even if it's good information,
she's bringing me all this stuff that I need to be concerned about, blah, blah, blah. Well,
I'll be concerned about that if that day comes, right? So, so we say to people, you know,
where are the boundaries? This is the other thing, Don, that came up is where are the boundaries that
maybe need to be put in place for the days ahead? You know, with people, with finances for yourself,
you know, where you start saving a little bit, you know, we can all make promises,
a little bit, you know, we can all make progress. This is why it's so important. If y'all didn't
hear Supernatural Saturday last Saturday, what Jackie was saying, if, if we can get a hold of
this as a community, y'all, it'll literally change our lives. We're sitting in the watermelon patch,
and we're crying because the watermelons aren't coming up. But maybe the strawberries are,
the whole patch is ripe, and they're dying on the vine, because we're not over there picking it.
So again, I'm not saying you shouldn't be at school. But if the, if the money's not coming
through right now, is God blessing something else? Just be in prayer about it. Just one of
the questions I wanted to pull up is with a hard book about this, because the whole thing is he
probably is blessing me in other ways. But again, I, I can't see it because my whole mindset is on
lack. Like I'm always thinking I'm not worthy to be blessed. I want to talk more, but I actually
have a hard time believing what people are telling me when they say that God does want to bless me.
Yeah. So when you, and this is one of the things, if you remember, when we went through a heart work,
we have to get to the source. So the source for you, you might already know it's back in childhood,
but there's probably still another wound there that needs healing. Because even if,
even if we start to heal, like all the abuse that I went through you all, I had to do several rounds
of healing regarding that. And, and I've had even more things happen to bring healing after I got
married because, you know,
Oh, you get married and then you're faced with new things that bring up
revealings for healing and you can step into that.
So I would encourage you just to keep asking the Lord, you know, Hey, Lord.
I'm really still struggling with this lack mentality.
I will tell you, as you were talking, I saw a little girl.
Um, it was kind of like, I saw you holding a doll, but the doll disappeared.
And so I don't know if there was something that you wanted as a kid or some kind of
need that you had, or you saw a friend that had something, I'm not sure I
couldn't like really hone in all the way on it, but that's what I saw.
And it's interesting that even something that simple, we don't realize as kids,
how a lie that we believe can enter in that young, and it can inform all of
our thoughts beyond that, because every time a trauma happens from that moment
on, that looks like, sounds like, feels like the same enemy, we'll use it to
kind of build and build and build.
And that's how strongholds are formed.
And so I would, I would even say that part of the struggle is that they're,
they're probably in the past has been a stronghold there.
And over time, the Lord's trying to help you break through that stronghold.
Yeah.
And, and the transforming of your mind is going to come by getting truth in there.
The healing in your heart and the truth in your mind, and those two kind of pairing
together and, and walking those things out through your daily choices as well.
So that's how the partnering with the truth, it comes into play.
So declaring it is powerful and we need to do that every day, but partnering
with it, that that's the walking it out part.
So for me, one of the ways I had to begin partnering with the truth, I could
declare a financial blessing over myself all day long, but if I never saved any
money, do y'all know that God says he'll bless the storehouses?
Well, what's the storehouses?
Well, that's our savings.
And if we have no savings, it doesn't mean he can't still bless us.
Of course he can, but it's important for us to save.
And I don't want to get into finances, but I just want to kind of put that out there.
That was something that he showed me.
I had to, I needed to create the storehouse and, and, and decide that it was, it was
really important to also create wealth for myself and my future generations and, and
really emphasize that and be intentional about that.
It's a trigger.
I'll say Bethany, it's a big trigger.
When people talk about blessing and getting abundantly blessed and how much money they
have, it makes me upset.
It's a trigger.
Yeah.
So that's where, again, I would say, okay, Lord, you know, this is where you got, you
all have to get, you know, just stay really good at asking questions.
God, this is triggering me right now.
Like, why is this offending me?
Why is this triggering me?
Why does this feel painful when I hear them talk about this and just keep having
conversations with him and he will continue to reveal these things to you.
The Bible says that he whispers secrets from heaven to his friends.
You are his friend.
I'm his friend.
So I believe he'll whisper some things to you in the days ahead, Don.
He's not finished yet.
Keep hanging in there and we'll be praying for you about your school.
I know that's something you really, during heartwork felt like a huge
breakthrough for you, for you in that area.
And so I'd love to see you walk in that, but we also want to trust God's timing for
that too.
So I'll be praying on all sides regarding that for you.
Okay.
Thank you very much.
Yeah.
You're welcome.
We love you.
Yeah.
Abby, go ahead.
Hi, I, I actually was triggered right before I, uh, I came to the meeting.
I'm kind of still processing myself, but I would like to hear about your, um,
some spiritual insights.
So, so basically, um, there were like two guys who one guy used to be interesting
me and one guy I used to be interesting in, but none of them end up, you know, we
can date and stuff like that.
And I started to find out, uh, both of them may be seeing other people now.
I'm not, it's not like confirmed yet, but I just feel like, um, I don't know,
like jealousy or anger.
I don't know.
It's very, um, that kind of complicated emotions.
And I feel bad because I've like, I should be able to bless them because
they're brothers in the Lord.
Right.
But I just felt like, why am I left out?
You know, what did I do wrong?
Yeah.
Okay.
So was that Hunter?
Okay.
I don't know who that was.
So anytime you all have anything like this,
the first thing is it's interesting.
Someone was sharing with me something about things
like this similarly last night.
So you are getting to know in community.
Remember, level one and level two,
you're getting to know each other in community as friends.
You're not exclusive.
So we know, most likely, you're seeing other people.
They're seeing other people.
So we really hold open hands, hopefully.
Hold people with open hands, you all.
Because here's the thing.
When we start to feel ownership, and not that we're saying this,
I own them.
But subconsciously, we're like, OK, he's mine.
Whether we're fully admitting to ourselves if we like someone
or we don't, and then when something happens
and then the jealousy and the anger gets kicked in,
OK, well, what's underneath the surface of anger?
Let's just deal with that one.
Anger hurts bodyguard.
So what's underneath the anger?
A lot of times, frustration, disappointment, sadness.
And even you all, some of you all,
I know, I don't know if this is OK to say.
We're on a Christian thing.
But Jackie says things all the time.
But some of us, we just get so pissed off, don't we?
If something does, right away, just from 0 to 180,
I'm not saying everybody, but some people, we do.
And we don't realize that that is all underneath.
We get these bad attitudes, and we're
stuck in an attitude, and that's sadness
underneath the surface.
So what needs healing?
Where are you hurt?
Where are you believing a lie?
You said, what did I do wrong?
Well, that, to me, goes right back to,
why do you believe that if a guy doesn't like you,
it means you aren't enough, or you did something wrong?
Well, most times, a lot of us, that links back
to growing up and hearing.
And this can go same thing for the guys.
If you guys, that's the first thing you hear when a woman is
deciding, hey, I think you're a nice guy,
but I don't know that you're my spirit mate,
it's because deep down somewhere,
we're believing we're not good enough.
So that goes right back to identity.
So I would say to you, Abby, and I
know that we've talked a little bit about this before,
is the importance of getting to know who you are in Christ.
Apart from any guy, who are you in Christ becoming
more and more secure?
And it doesn't mean you have to stop dating,
because you're in process, you're learning.
Even these situations are helping
you continue to grow in the understanding of, OK,
this is triggering me, why?
OK, Lord, where do I still need healing?
The struggle of, why didn't they choose me?
Whatever's coming up, and just take that before the Lord,
and let Him reveal to you what still needs healed,
the lies that you are believing.
When we first logged in, you all,
I said, a lot of times the enemy will come,
and he'll say, I didn't try to get us to convince ourselves,
I didn't want that anyway.
Well, that was a waste of time, so whatever.
Y'all, I was with somebody for six years,
and I can sincerely tell you, yeah, it's kind of like,
it blows my mind that I was with that person for six years,
but I sincerely don't feel like it was a waste of my time.
Sincerely.
I learned a lot of hard lessons, I did.
But I gained two amazing girls out of it,
and I learned how to love myself better.
I really did, and it changed my life
because I let it change my life.
So that was not a waste.
I am who I am today.
Could I have become who I am without that?
Sure, I think I could have.
But God warned me, He showed me red flags,
and I just kept on going.
I just kept on going because my heart got so attached
to those little cutie pies.
I tried to convince myself we were
going to be a big, happy family.
That's what we do sometimes, don't we?
We get so caught up in things and fantasizing.
But God, in His goodness, He came in
and He healed all of that.
So Abby, no matter what is triggering you, God loves you,
and He wants to heal that stuff in you,
and He wants you to become more secure in Him.
Yeah, let's see.
You're saying, why do I feel a similar feeling?
Not very strong, though, about the guy
who used to be interested in me.
Well, I think because it.
It's a route of rejection.
That's the other thing that I had written down here.
Anytime we feel like someone doesn't choose us,
even if we already thought we didn't like them,
it can flare up a route of rejection in you.
So I would just encourage you.
It's like, I told him no.
That's what, yeah.
Yeah, I understand.
Yeah, I don't understand that part.
Like, if that's the guy.
Yeah, because it's a route of rejection
because now, even though you told him no,
you know he's dating someone else.
So now you're telling yourself,
even though I didn't choose him,
now he's chosen someone else.
It's all goes back to rejection and control, really.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, because I feel bad.
I think I should be able to bless him, right?
Well, you will be one.
You might not be there yet, Abby,
but man, you've grown a ton.
I really want to encourage you to also celebrate
the growth that you've been experiencing
and just start thanking God for helping you
to fully surrender those guys in that situation
and help you to be a blessing to them.
God will give you the grace to do it.
He will.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Robin, go ahead.
Hi, Bethany.
Hi.
So yeah, I wasn't going to share anything,
but then I thought, actually, I do have something
that I need your input.
And I think it's on the financial theme,
which was interesting,
because I put my hand up after the first one,
and then there was someone, I think, Don, two times ago.
So I will take some of that advice about proverbs
and giving and overgiving,
because that's been combined recently.
And so, and before I forget, what I'll say is,
I realize sometimes in certain circles,
there's a lot of talk about giving
and believing that the Lord is just going to give back.
But there's other things that the Bible says about money,
and I have been feeling at multiple times
that I just need to do like a bit of a study
on what God actually says about that,
because I think it can turn into a bit of magical thinking,
and also feeling guilty,
but I actually do give a fair amount.
So anyway, my situation is this.
I moved to Edmonton just under two years ago,
and I stepped out in faith.
I know this is where God's wanted me to be,
but it hasn't been a bit challenging.
I'm a teacher, just getting full-time contracts.
Tutoring on the side or being given a job
that had a ton of responsibility,
so then I couldn't even do extra things like tutoring.
And God has blessed me in a lot of areas,
but I felt stretched.
And since then, I strongly have felt the Lord
asked me to go back to school,
and I've posted about going to seminary online.
It's start that.
And so my question is really just
if you have any insight about finances,
I'll just share a little bit more.
I had a heart-to-heart with the Lord,
because I'm his daughter,
and I say, God, I'm feeling like I can't do this,
work full-time, and take a course every term.
There's five terms,
and I don't think I can do it financially.
So I felt peace, and I was saying, do three a year.
I was like, okay.
I said, okay, God, what's the plan for finances?
I'm having trouble because it's a U.S. university
getting things to go through with student loans.
There's a block there.
I've been looking at some scholarships.
I found a scholarship for women in ministry,
and that's one of the courses I took.
It's all set, but it's just the timing of it.
But I think I'm gonna be able to do that next year.
And just being in Canada,
but my university's in the States,
it's just harder with that.
I have put it out.
I didn't want to.
I made a little Facebook page
to get people to be part of it,
just to invite people into the journey.
Even though my family has been questioning sometimes
some of my Christian decisions,
because they aren't Christian,
and worried I was part of a cult.
And I have let people know I do have this need.
So my last course, I still have some money left on that,
like going to university.
And that's when I've paused,
and I felt like I needed to take a couple months off
as a teacher just to rest.
And I'm kind of like, God, you've got to answer this.
I know, he confirmed that I needed to be there.
The Course in Women in Ministry, my prof,
she's an international minister,
and I just got invited to this women in leadership thing
that also costs money.
I know God is on that,
but there's a big gap between,
like I don't even have funds to pay for the last one.
So I was praying about it,
and I did ask the Lord,
Lord, where is this coming from?
There's this bleep,
because I just have this thing,
like there's never going to be enough.
That's what was coming up, like there's never enough.
And you know what is the greatest show, man?
There's that song, never enough, never enough.
Like I kept hearing that song, like echoing in my.
spirit. And I asked the Lord about it. And the image that
came to mind was my parents are divorced and being in my mom's
house after they were divorced in my bedroom. And two things.
One is my mom. After my parents separated, my mom struggled with
money the whole time and she was in debt. And I knew about things
I probably shouldn't have. And I think the Lord showed me that I
took that burden on. And the other thing that came on was
during that time there, I was just coming into the house where
someone robbed. And they actually like I think they
escaped through my window might have been my mom's. I can't
remember. But someone actually broke in and I didn't feel safe
and I was the one that had to deal with that. And I don't know
if that could have opened a door to I have a recurring dream. I
haven't had it.
Yeah, sorry. So I'm gonna jump in. So here's what's one of the
things that's super important. This is for everybody. Y'all
when we're doing heartwork, and I'm sure you're praying in the
process. So I don't want it to sound like I don't think you're
praying. But sometimes we can try to figure it out. Like,
okay. And so really want to encourage you just to remember
that we don't have to dig. We don't have to try to go
searching. We just ask the Lord to reveal things for healing,
and know that he'll reveal it in the time that is best for you.
And sometimes that can be tough when we feel like we're in a
time crunch to write because this course is happening
schooling, all this stuff. And you're trying to figure this
stuff out. But I really feel like it's going to be important
for you to just kind of trust that God is going to show you
the pieces along the way that are important. And he's going to
show you where they go versus trying to figure out what goes
together. And I really felt like, I think that there probably
is stuff you've had to deal with from the thing with your house,
the house being broken into, but I don't know in my spirit
that that connects to the financial God will show you for
sure. But I feel like that's, you know, that's where the us
trying to figure out in our own strength can kind of come into
play. But interestingly enough, before you ever said a word
about, you know, the lies that you were having about I can't do
this never enough before you shared about your parents. I
heard the phrase multiple times, old tapes, old tapes. And what
that represented to me when God said it is that, you know, we
all have these old tapes in our minds that we play. And old
tapes can also represent things that our parents said, things
our grandparents said, and those were spoken, and we heard them.
And then without even knowing it, we subconsciously absorb
that stuff, you all, we absorb the things that people say
around us. And if we partner with those in any way, because
we go through trauma as well, financially, or like you saw
your mom struggling, you said, I probably heard things I
shouldn't, you know, all those kind of things start to pair
with the other old tapes. And it starts to again, create that
stronghold in our minds and our spirits and our souls. And so we
really need to just ask the Lord to reveal what what are the
old tapes that are playing in your mind, that he wants to
uncover and reveal to you, I do think that it is connected to
your parents divorce, seeing your mom struggle. But I kept
feeling also like something with grandma, I don't I don't really
know anything about your story. And I don't know if there was a
struggle that your grandma had. And I'm not I'm not getting too
deep into the generational stuff. But it is real. So that
can carry down. And so just be asking the Lord about that,
Robin. Just a reminder to you all that God has placed so many
of us, we are called to be the kinsmen redeemers in our
families. Right? So he's bringing these truths and these
revelations to us so that we get healing and, and freedom and
revelation, so that it brings it to our family. And God will come
in and redeem our timelines, and he'll do all kinds of stuff. If
we'll allow him to so want to encourage you just to keep
seeking him I specifically the old tapes, that's just it's so
loud in my spirit. And again, God will show you what those
are. I do also want to say I want there to be balanced when
you all hear about the financial stuff, because God also talks a
lot about us being generous givers. Okay, so just remember
balance is key. Okay, when you're looking at things, it
should line up with the Word of God, not just what somebody's
telling you to do. And it shouldn't be the Word of God
being taken out of context. So make sure y'all are looking at
the context of Scripture. And so many times, you know, we just go
and we sit under sermons, or we sit under things that people are
saying to us. But we need to go search the word out for
ourselves.
And seek it out.
And that is where God will show us to divide rightly the word of God.
It talks about that in scripture that we should divide it rightly.
So that's how, that's what I would encourage you to do as well.
I love that.
You're going to go ahead and, you know, do the Proverbs as well.
Y'all James is also kind of like the new Testament Proverbs.
If you didn't know, it's kind of like another book of what that's kind of noted as a wisdom
book.
So James, you can gain a lot of wealth from a lot of knowledge, wealth from that as well.
I didn't mean financial, but a lot of insight and wisdom when you're making decisions, when
you need insight and, and you're really trying to grow in being someone that walks in wisdom
and discernment and knowledge.
Robin, thank you for sharing.
Okay.
So I have a message that was sent to me.
I know it's getting late.
So Melissa.
Yeah.
I think I was kind of leaning towards yes, but I'm looking and it's nine 30.
But what I do want to encourage you to do is I want you to send that into admin at Jackie
Dorman.com or submit that to ask Jackie your question.
So I just want to make sure that that does get answered because the team would be happy
to support you and kind of speak truth into that area for you.
Okay.
I'm going to pray for you all.
I hope this has been a good night for you.
God is so good.
Y'all.
He, he doesn't expect us to not struggle.
Okay.
The Bible says that we will go through trials and tribulation in this world, but y'all he's
overcome Jesus Christ came and he overcame the world.
So he suffered and he overcame it so he can relate to you in your suffering.
So if you are struggling, y'all, some of the best prayers I ever prayed were Jesus
help.
That's simple.
Jesus help because he knows exactly what you need.
Father, thank you so much for who you are.
Thank you for freedom.
Thank you for continuing to reveal things for healing in us that you would just continue
to do supernatural heart surgery.
God, so many times we just want to be free and we don't know how to get free, but God,
I know that you know how, and you're not dangling even our freedom over us.
God, you are standing at the door of our hearts and you're knocking and you're asking if we'll
let you in.
And, and some of us we're in self-imposed prisons and we don't even realize that we've
put ourselves there.
So Lord, I'm just asking you, just like you came into Paul and Silas, I'm asking you to
come in and open the prison door and set your sons and your daughters free.
I thank you that you would help them to have insights from heaven, that you would come
in and meet them in the night hour and their dreams and their daydreams.
And you do is just speak to them, speak love to them, speak truth to them, that you would
give them sale arrest.
Some of them are weary, they're, they're burdened and they're heavy laden, but Lord, I thank
you that you would lift those burdens off of them now.
And I thank you that you would help them to walk into the liberty and the fullness that
you have for them in the days ahead, that any area that they've been stuck, God, we
just call forth a breaker spirit in Jesus name to come in and break through every area
where they've been stuck and they, they just need your help, God.
And we just thank you that you would send angels to minister to them and war on their
behalf right now in Jesus name.
And we thank you for it in advance, father, amen.
We love you all.
And we're so glad to have you a part of this community.
We'll see you all very soon.
If you didn't know the next community event is Thursday, August 8th.
We are doing a brand new special session.
We're bringing someone different that y'all have never heard from to do a dream interpretation
session, session, excuse me, it's going to be great.
That's 8pm Eastern time, Thursday, August 8th.
We hope to see you there.
God bless you.
And we'll see you again soon.