Welcome to Empower You. I'm Amy Stevens. You may have heard Pastor Steve's podcast where we had a
conversation about public policy engagement or civic engagement. You know, COVID changed a lot
of things in our community and this is where the road really exploded in membership and where people
began to get engaged. And so Pastor Steve came to me and said, hey, would you consider volunteering
to help lead this effort? We have all kinds of views in our church, diverse views. And really,
how do we make sense of that? How do we move forward? People are exhausted. A lot of people
angry. Some just trying to raise their kids. How do we stay engaged? And I'm convinced it's through
big, important little things, things that you and I can do every day. And that's what you're going
to hear on these podcasts. You're going to hear from people in the community, school board members.
You're going to hear from people that work in the life pro-life space. You're going to hear
from legislators, people that are going to talk to us about what their lives are really like,
what their jobs are really like, and actually how we can make a difference and or support them.
And so that is the hope for Pastor Steve. That's the hope that I have,
and we look forward to engaging with you.
Well, hello today at Empower You. We're in our summertime, moving into our general election
period. And you know, this is a time people say, well, how are you getting engaged? And
what are we doing? And who are we voting for? We just lasted through a huge primary time.
And one of the results of that primary is our friend Jarvis Caldwell, who is here,
who's going to be running for House District 20, which is my old seat and your husband's old seat.
And so Jarvis is here. Jarvis Caldwell is here today with us,
as well as County Commissioner for District 2, Carrie Geithner, who also won her primary.
Welcome both of you. Thank you.
Well, you know, Carrie, probably what, a year and a half ago, we sat down and you said,
we've got to have a local organization that starts to get people engaged, right? Like that's,
that we were talking about private property rights, I think it was, and development and
what's going on. And is there this kind of anti-growth and development simmering? I would
probably say among more, some Republican candidates, which I kind of find concerning,
but we began to talk about that. And you said, I think we really do need an educational
organization that starts to get people moving towards getting engaged and why they're engaged.
So talk about that because it's striking how, the moment, by the way, Carrie says,
I think we need that. You can pretty much start your time clock because then
something's going to be happening. It's going to come around. So tell us what happened.
Well, thanks, Amy. And thanks for having us on. I'm really excited to be here. Yeah. You know,
it's kind of started with that, those exact kinds of conversations around, you know, talking to a lot
of voters and beginning to understand that there were not a lot of places where they were getting
good information about our founding principles, about the importance of the way our kind of
American ideals help to shape the decisions that we should be looking at as citizens and thinking
about why we vote for things and why certain things are important to preserve essentially
our very unique republic. And, you know, from those conversations, as you know, Courtney Salt
is one of our board members as well. Courtney and I really believed that we could help educate
and help equip people to be ready to really engage in local government. And that's really where
Engage the Rockies was born. And so we're really excited about that. You know, we are a nonpartisan
501c3. And so we are focused on helping people understand how government works, how they can best
be involved. But specifically, we believe that, you know, America is a wonderful, prosperous place,
specifically because of free markets, individual rights. And we want to make sure that, you know,
when we have an engaged citizenry, we can maintain that here. But if we don't have citizens who are
ready to participate and understand what we need to preserve in the United States,
then we, you know, we could be in a little bit of trouble. And so we wanted to make sure that
we are providing an avenue for folks to learn about those issues. The media is not always the
best about giving, you know, good ideas and in depth about the issues. And so we really wanted
to have a neutral kind of place where we could provide a lot of that information, a lot of the
stuff that doesn't get covered, and more in depth conversations about those things,
as well as make sure that folks who are ready to maybe
dive in a little bit deeper than just voting.
They wanna get involved, they wanna be on a local board,
they wanna maybe even run for office one day,
that they have a very full and comprehensive understanding
of exactly how our government is supposed to work,
and that we can help them get connected
and figure out how to do that.
Well, I just want the people that watch from the road
to know Courtney Salt attends our church,
Aaron Salt attends our church,
we've had Aaron on the podcast.
But what I think is important is the kind of education
that we would love certainly to invite Engage
to come here and to conduct.
Because people ask, well, how can I run for a board?
How am I gonna get on?
Jarvis, you're running for state house, right?
You were working within, I think in Denver,
within the minority office.
You, you know, stood up,
give the audience a bit of your background
so they know who you are
and why you two suddenly joined up on Engage.
How did that happen?
I did 10 years in the military.
My first five years, I worked on airplanes,
on F-15s, and then the U-2 spy plane,
different assignments all around the world.
And about halfway through,
went into the criminal justice side.
I have a passion for the constitution and the rule of law.
And so I served as a paralegal in the JAG Corps,
worked on criminal prosecution teams
and criminal defense teams for about five years.
And my wife is also Air Force.
She just retired this year after 22 and a half years.
And so that's what brought us here.
I got out at my 10 year mark.
I was in Washington, DC at the time.
And then we came here about five years ago.
And so my wife was stationed at the Air Force Academy.
And, you know, it's kind of ironic,
but I was finally free to be involved in the community.
And plus I hadn't stayed anywhere
for more than about a year and a half
while I was in the military, because you move a lot.
And so once we finally got here, I was out of the military.
I was free to get engaged in local things.
I started going to different events
and started meeting our local leaders.
And Carrie and her husband, Tim,
who was elected representative at the time.
I met them and said, you know, how can I get involved?
You know, I want to get engaged.
And so that kind of started me on this path.
We were getting people engaged even before we had engaged.
That's true, that's true, that's true.
I remember the kickoff and then I heard Jarvis
was going to come on board and I went, wow, that's great.
And you've started a podcast, right?
Yeah, and you know, when we really got rolling
with our organization and we were super grateful
for a lot of generous donors in our community
who really saw the need for what we were doing
and helped us really kick off,
we decided to go ahead and hire our executive director,
which is Jarvis.
And this was before we knew Jarvis might run for office,
but you know, life hands you all kinds of opportunities.
So, but we were excited for Jarvis to come on board
as our executive director and we set
some pretty ambitious goals for our first year.
See, Shakespeare said, yes.
A lot of very ambitious goals.
But one of those goals is the podcast
that specifically is designed to help voters
and citizens understand what's going on.
And Jarvis, you can talk about that.
Yeah, absolutely.
So, you know, we looked around and we said, okay,
well, how do people consume content nowadays?
Not everybody has a lot of time to sit there and read,
but usually everybody's commuting somewhere,
you know, at some point during the day.
So we said, okay, let's bring it in a podcast form.
It's both audio and video,
but the audio is definitely more popular
because while you're riding to work
or taking the kids to sports practice
or whatever, you can listen to it.
We try to keep it relatively short,
about 30 minutes or less.
Good.
And so, but what we would do is we focus
on what are the hot button issues.
And so, I mean, we've covered the migration crisis.
I mean, we've covered different ballot initiatives.
If you wanna know how to get something on a ballot,
we've covered that with Michael Fields,
who I think is quite the expert on it.
Yes, Michael's the expert, yes, yes.
We've covered city council issues such as, you know,
private versus public ambulance services.
We've covered election integrity,
because that's a big one that we feel a lot about.
Well, you had, right.
Our county clerk and reporter,
Steve Schleicher was just on.
I think probably a lot of people at the road
would be very interested in that.
That's, you know.
And we covered how the recent elections went.
And then we also said, okay,
well, let's cover some common questions
and issues that we hear about election integrity.
And so, you know, Steve did a great job going through that.
But that's the kind of content we wanna bring to people,
you know, because a lot of people aren't engaged
at that level that Karen are engaged at on a daily basis.
We know these people individually, and we do.
And so, we say, you know, if we see an issue
or we hear a lot of things going on,
we'll reach out to these people that we know.
And we say, hey, these are the questions
that we're hearing, the concerns.
Can you come on and?
talk about this, maybe answer some of those questions.
And so I think because of our involvement,
we're in a unique position that we have these relationships
with different elected people or different people
who are CEOs or run these different organizations.
And so that's also on the other side of it.
So that's on the podcast side,
we wanna introduce you to these people,
but we also have the ability to connect you personally
with these people and answer questions for you
and see how you can get involved.
And so that's kind of.
Yeah, and we are working on an event coming up.
I won't say the date yet, we're still working on it.
So I don't wanna, in case something changes
while we're still getting that.
But things like panel opportunities to Jarvis's point
to interact with folks in our community.
And we really do try and keep the podcast.
I mean, we do a lot about Colorado,
especially during the legislative session
because that really does affect folks locally.
But there's kind of a disconnect between Amy,
as you well know, what happens in Denver
and how it's affecting us locally
and how it even affects our local governments
and why it's so important.
So really connecting it down to the local level,
especially getting involved in,
there was even a great podcast about oil and gas.
And I mean, the things that are affecting us,
we're now hearing about utilities costs going up.
A lot of that is directly related to that legislation.
And so really trying to connect it in
to everyone's everyday life
and understanding how those policies are affecting
and how you can get involved
to be able to take a position on those policies
and make change in your community
if what you see isn't working.
That's good because really, I think people,
when they say, oh, goodness, my rising prices, right?
And you can say, yes, we can point to that bill.
We can, sometimes people just are stuck
on Second Amendment or the right to life.
And I applaud, obviously we are,
we're very pro Second Amendment and right to life,
but that is a tiny little portion
of what happens in Denver.
Just this, it's hard sometimes to understand.
And you guys know, when I was in office,
we had a lot of county commissioners saying,
hey, you send us a lot of unfunded mandates.
And we would say, yeah.
And I did, I ran a bill that would say,
okay, with every fiscal, we need to now have,
how is this gonna impact counties?
And everybody screams, we don't wanna do that, no.
But you have to because these unfunded mandates
then take a toll on the county.
And then we don't have enough staff for whatever.
And then we're overtaxed and we have,
it just really becomes, it's really,
it becomes very difficult.
But the other part, side of that is,
you've had the courage, particularly
in the illegal immigration crisis that we've had in Denver.
El Paso County has had the guts to say,
whoa, we're not having this, we are restricting.
Talk about that for a little bit
because something will become a hot, hot topic.
And then, oh, wait, what happened to that topic?
It's out the door, right?
And you're still dealing with some of that.
So chat about that because I think
Engage is looking, people get frustrated by this
or they'll say, well, what is our county
or what's our local government doing?
What are they doing?
Yeah, and I think that that's, of course,
a big reason why we want them to understand
what the role of the county and the city is
because there are a lot of limitations
about what we can do.
And that's a big thing that we try to walk folks through
as we're doing those is understanding
what decisions the county can make
and what we're doing and we can do
and what decisions we would like to do
but we just don't have the authority to do.
Illegal immigration is one of those issues,
of course, as a county.
The county doesn't have the ability to regulate the border
or regulate who's coming into Colorado.
And so it's a very tangled and difficult
and I think sometimes purposefully difficult legal web
that we find ourselves in.
But at the county, there are some things
that we are very specifically choosing not to do
and that is we are not going to set up shelters.
We are not going to provide the kind of
what I think is attracting a lot of people
into Colorado like Denver has done, right?
All of the free housing and the free, the free,
the free, the free.
All of these things which, of course,
people go, well, hey, I can get this for free.
I'm gonna go to Denver and that is part
of what is attracting people to Denver right now.
And so the county is very specifically choosing
not to do those things.
We don't have to do those things legally
and so we're making those.
And we've made very public statements at the commission
that we don't support illegal immigration,
that we think what is happening at the border is very wrong
and it has potentially very detrimental effects
to our community.
We've all seen that from what's going on in Denver.
But we are very worried about the.
safety matters.
And this is one of the places where we want folks
to fully know.
Counties, unfortunately, don't have all the powers
that we would like to have.
For example, our sheriff is not allowed
to communicate with ICE about a lot of these things.
And so that's really problematic.
And that is because of a state law.
That is because of a state law.
And we've seen other counties be sued over this.
And then a court says, you absolutely cannot do this.
You have to stop doing these things.
And you can't just keep doing them
because the courts will come in.
They can literally remove people.
They can bring down other powers from Denver
to force you into compliance with those things.
And so unfortunately, we are in the middle of a legal battle.
The county is part of a lawsuit, along with Douglas
and several other counties, over those specific laws
that are keeping counties from being
able to essentially keep our residents safe.
But our sheriff is really concerned about this.
We've all kind of heard a little bit.
I think we're still waiting for the dust
to settle on some of the things that we've
heard about in Denver, Aurora, around Venezuelan gang violence
and those kind of things.
But the reality is we have had situations,
and our sheriff has talked about that,
where he has had to let go of very violent criminals who
have abused children, sexually abused children.
And then he cannot hold them legally.
And part of that, again, is due to those restrictions
that are in state law.
And so really, really concerning for our community
that those things are happening.
And we want, again, and that's where Engage really
comes in to help people understand
the nuances of that.
Sometimes the media really does get things wrong.
I'll be fair and say sometimes that is purely
because oftentimes the reporters locally are very young.
They're not as experienced with government.
And sometimes they might just want a headline.
And they don't write the headlines.
As you know, the actual journalists
don't write the headlines.
You have someone back at the editing desk
probably writing that headline.
And so they're looking for people to click on those things.
And there's advertisements and all of that.
So we don't have those pressures at Engage.
And Engage can really talk about what
the ins and outs are, the technical ability of what
people can do so that voters, again, and citizens
can be fully aware.
Not be swayed one way or the other, as we all know.
Also, the media sometimes has their own agenda.
So to really get them as much neutral, fact-based
information as possible on some of those really important
topics to our community.
Yeah, actually, our very first ever Engage episode
was with John Fabricatore, who's running for Congress
actually up north, I think, in the Centennial area.
So he's a retired ICE field director for this area.
And so the border is something that he
is an absolute expert on.
And so when we launched our podcast back in March,
he was our very first episode.
Because back in March, if you remember,
that's when buses were still showing up in Denver.
And they were hitting that $40,000-plus mark.
And so he really went through.
And he brought a very unique perspective,
because it wasn't just around Denver.
It was the root causes of it, current administration,
the policy differences that maybe incentivized this influx,
and how it actually is to be at the border,
and what you experience there.
And then he related it back to Denver and the issues
they're having there, the fact that this
is impacting budgets for police, for fire, for roads, for schools.
And so yeah, that's the kind of information
we like to bring to people.
But that's good.
No, it is good.
And Carrie, I know that even as a county commissioner,
you are looking at budgets of organizations
that also could be inclined to perhaps encourage
some of that activity.
And you kind of have to say no.
And no, people are just shocked when you say no.
No, we're not doing that.
I want to, on the engage side, have you
people come to you to say, OK, I want to run for school board.
Tell me about my impact.
I need to.
I don't think it's any surprise to anybody
around the United States that Colorado's Republican Party is
in quite a bit of disarray.
We've had a lot of ruckus, a lot of fighting,
a lot of infighting, which is probably
what some people love to see.
And probably coming to you to go, OK,
how do we make sense of this mess?
And what can I do?
You've always had a very good ground game in your races,
both you and Tim.
cultivated, right? You've cultivated volunteers. Tell me, you know, people that want to do
that. I applaud anybody that will stand up today to say, yes, I will run. You know, I
will serve. I will do this. It's not for the faint of heart. I say this all the time.
Carrie, how do you, through Engage, describe, even to people that fund you, what it is you
really want to accomplish with getting good people, you know, elected into office, right?
Yeah, absolutely. You know, and that's something, again, our donors are really excited about
because when we look around, to your point, it is not for the faint of heart to run, especially
in this environment, right? Which is another thing that, you know, I like to promote, which
is civil discourse. You know, we have a lot of very passionate ideas. And but we do need
to remember that these are human beings. And sometimes that can be difficult. And so it
is hard to find good folks to run. And oftentimes, we have a lot of people who have not been
paying attention. You know, just like what happened with COVID, they wake up and they
go, Oh, my gosh, things are not, I did not realize how bad things really were. And they
decide they want to run for office, which is great. However, there's a lot to learn
before you decide to, you know, kind of throw your hat in the ring, the ring, both from
a, you know, again, a governance perspective on actually understanding the role that you're
taking, we see that a lot where people are very passionate, but maybe they don't actually
understand what a county commissioner actually does, or what a city council member actually
does, what are the limitations of their power, what things, you know, if you go out and you
promise people that you can do a lot of things that actually aren't within your authority,
that's not a great way to begin as a candidate, you know, remember, I thought we had that,
I thought we had that for the coroner's office or something, you know, we had an actual coroner,
you know, an MD, like, you know, and then we had someone that showed up in a white coat
and said, I'm gonna, you know, stop, maybe, and I'm running for coroner and people just
kind of went, okay, what? And so yes, we have that happening, right? It's kind of probably
well meant on one side, but, but you just have to shake your head and go, I'm don't
see that.
Right. And understanding the parameters. So that's a big piece of what Engage can help
bring to the table. Connect you with people who are already in office, connect you with,
you know, all kinds of experts around governments and the law, and make sure that you really
know A, what you're getting yourself into, B, that you can, you know, make appropriate
goals and, and, you know, tell voters if you're going to actually run, what it is that you
can do for them. And so, you know, it helps keep us all a little honest too, to really
know what those things are. Nobody wants to get into an office and realize, I can't do
the things I thought I was going to do. Right. And so I think that's a big piece of it. And,
you know, just learning the principles of our founding as well. You know, everything
from why free speech is important. You know, we live in a time where it, you know, it's
tempting to some to say, well, I don't like that speech, so we shouldn't have that speech.
Right. And we, and we hear that sometimes on the left, sometimes on the right. You know,
we really want to remind folks why is important that free speech is there. You know, we want
to make sure folks understand private property rights. You and I have talked about how vital
private property rights are to the foundation of all of our other liberties. Right. They
are foundational and, and to see any of those things slip away would be very dangerous.
So we want anyone who's interested in getting involved in government to have a very firm
and thorough understanding, think through all of those issues, think through those lenses
that they're going to use as a potential future, you know, policymakers talk to people
and, and have a you know, a really solid foundation for how they would make decisions going into
that and be thoughtful about that. And then, as I said, you know, kind of the mechanics
of it as well, too in terms of what it actually takes, what that looks like. Yeah. What does
it take to actually get in front of those positions? And again, that, that may be someone
who wants to run for office and we'd encourage anyone listening who thinks that's something
that they, they would be interested in for at any level, any type of office, you know,
to reach out through engage and get involved in some of those programs, even listening
to the podcast, I guarantee you, you'll learn. It's amazing. I talked to even local elected
officials who listened to the podcast and say, I learned something. So it's great. We
really try to get it across.
In particular, John's on the ice stuff. I mean, again, I'm, I'm living this on a daily
basis in my life. And yet I still learn things from that, that were really interesting. So
it really is geared for so many different areas, but, you know, even if you think, gosh,
you know, I have maybe one night a month and I'd be interested in serving on a volunteer
board. Yes. The County, the city, even school districts have, you know, all kinds of different
opportunities.
They're great for actually affecting what's going on in our local government and also
learning.
And so no matter what level that's at, doesn't have to be, you know, running for, you know,
an office that's at a higher level, there's some way for everyone to get involved.
And even if it is becoming a very informed voter and sharing that information with your
community, that is also incredibly important.
Yeah.
And the event that Carrie had mentioned kind of at the start of this, that we're still
in the works, but something we're going to do is, you know, we have people who are interested
and want to be involved, don't know how, and this event we're going to hold, we're going
to have a county commissioner, we're going to have a school board member, we're going
to have a city councilman and likely a state representative there.
And they're going to answer just those like nuanced questions that a lot of people don't
think about, like, hey, you're a school board member, right?
Or you run for school board.
It's not a paid position, right?
This is a volunteer position.
And the grief they take.
And how many hours does that take?
Answering those basic questions.
How do you balance that?
Yes.
And same with city council.
It's a little bit paid, but it's a very involved job and you can't just survive on what they
get paid.
I mean, it's very small.
So those are things that people really, a lot of times don't think about.
And so we're going to connect you directly with the people in those positions and, you
know, they can-
Absolutely.
No, absolutely.
Because very often I'll go, why didn't so and so do this?
I have to call Carrie.
Carrie, wait, why didn't, why didn't this happen?
Or what happened here?
Or what was, or I, or I have to call our county clerk.
Okay.
Yeah.
Here's what we're hearing.
Help me with the voter boxes.
Let's deal with this.
Where are they going to be?
And you know, they're really, I say, I think El Paso's lucky.
We have many of smart, good-hearted, very transparent, I think, people who are willing
to say, well, here's the story.
Here's what's going on.
Before rumors can take hold and people lose their minds over, you know, crazy things,
they can put a stop to that right then and there.
Absolutely.
And being more connected helps them form those relationships to do exactly those things,
right?
Hearing what's coming up.
You're right.
It's so important because in a day where we all know we are inundated with information,
it's so easy to, you know, go down a road of hearing something and not really knowing
and having, quite frankly, real concern and, you know, to be able to find ways to connect
in and learn more so that you can, you know, vet for yourself, is this a real concern?
Is this, you know, propaganda that's out there trying to sway me one way or another?
There's a lot of that out there.
And being well-informed and, you know, that can make the big difference in really knowing
what's going on in our local community.
I highly recommend for your listeners the Steve Slyker episode that we just did a couple
weeks ago with our county clerk in our corner.
There was so much information that I learned just talking to him.
Like, I didn't know that every single drop-off box, ballot drop-off box, has a camera on
it and it's live streamed 24-7.
And Steve implemented that because, you know, he just basically said, well, people were
so concerned with it.
And then when they would do a court request and get asked for the video, it was such a
time process and it was large files.
And so he said, I'm just going to make it available 24-7, so you don't even have to
request the video.
You can just tune in and watch it anytime.
That was something I had no idea about.
That's so great.
And it's something that our clerk and recorders in this day and age take a lot of flack for
because there's a lot of concerns.
Yes.
There's a lot of concerns.
Right.
And that was something I didn't even know.
But that's what we're doing.
Did he talk about Experian?
He did.
I couldn't remember.
He did, yeah.
I listened to it, but I can't remember.
I couldn't remember.
Yeah.
So Experian is another one of those great things.
Again, highly recommend it because it's things that not everyone knows.
You know, Steve has come and spoken about these things at the Board of County Commissioners
meetings.
Yes.
But let's be honest.
Not everyone has time to sit around and watch, you know, me and my colleagues.
Well, Carrie, I'm sorry.
I just text you and say what's going on.
Yes, exactly.
So that's another one of the great things, the number of mail-in ballots that have, you
know, the undeliverable, sorry, the undeliverable ballots.
There used to be thousands and thousands and thousands of these.
Tens of thousands.
Yes, tens of thousands.
You're right.
And it has been significantly reduced.
So, you know, is it a perfect system?
No.
But it's really good to hear about the things that are going on.
And I think, yeah, actually, that's a really good.
There's so many good episodes.
Really, they should just kind of go on and check them all out.
Okay.
Website.
What's your website?
EngageTheRockies.com.
Okay.
EngageTheRockies.com.
Are you looking at a voter guide at all?
That's definitely something that we've been asked about a lot, especially around some
of the key issues that align with our free market, individual freedom, limited government.
Those are three things that we have specifically set out to say we want to address.
preserve through that civic engagement so we were really looking at potentially
a voter guide for the fall that has some of those things mostly more related to
you know we all know about you know the presidential race there's plenty of
information on that we all know about the federal races there's just seems to
be a lot more information on that but really on the the more local level your
state your state level folks. Ballot initiatives, certain things there it's it's hard
listen I know Jeff Crank is going to be is running for Congress but a lot of
people had Crank's picks you know or would go there but I think we need
something that really takes you know takes our liberty our Constitution our
freedoms and really looks across and gives us something I think it's valuable
for the church I think it's valuable just in general for the public so I'm
glad to hear you're thinking about it. Yeah and I think again what you know
we'll go kind of from that perspective there's a lot of other great voter guides
out there as well I know you know the church voter guide and other things that
are out there so but it is good to kind of get a different perspectives and then
you can kind of use those things all together to help you as a voter and I
think that that's something we're very much looking at you know we just launched
the podcast a few months ago yes yeah February, February, March, March, I think it's early March so
you know we are, you're up and running, you're getting it going, we're really rolling. You guys are ambitious, I love it, I love it.
Listen in closing what if people want to get a hold of you Jarvis or Carrie
specifically or is it info at Engage? Yeah yeah the easiest way is just to go
to www.engagetherockies.com okay we've got multiple places on there where you
can just sign up to our email great and we'll great we'll put you on our list
when we when we drop a new podcast usually every Monday okay and every
Friday so we do a weekend review so we go through and just cover the top
headlines every Friday morning okay of what maybe you missed. We'll make that available to our
congregation. Yeah and I'm glad that you mentioned that because that's the
second part actually truly ambitious on Jarvis's part I mean we we have a 30
minute podcast that's a lot more in-depth on issues yes on Mondays but
that Friday in review is 15 minutes or less it is an opportunity for you to
just catch up on what's been going on during the week yeah so if you don't
have time to read all the headlines you don't have time to go to all the City
Council meetings all of those things that's just a you know a quick
opportunity for you to catch up we've gotten a lot of people that really
appreciate that because as we know we're all so busy right and it's different
than like you know the national level because it's much more local to what is
going on here and it's released first thing early in the morning on Fridays so
when you're driving to work good it's already there for you that's good
because seriously local we've got to really understand that I mean people are
pretty tuned in through national organizations you know whether it's
Charlie Kirk or Daily Wire or whatever's going on in the national front but
really where action happens is between your state office right your local
offices and what happens in between so I really I want to encourage our listeners
really tune into this because it's super helpful and again I think it gives
clarity as to what's going on in the community well I want to thank both of
you for being here I always love seeing you I'm always learning something when
Carrie shows up Jarvis Jarvis we wish you well coming into the general
election I I know you've worked hard I know all the candidates that ran for
this worked hard but you showed some good discipline I think I'm really proud
of you and Carrie as usual you've got everybody out walking so I you know if
I need if I need to drop some pounds I say Carrie I've got to walk and I'm sent
to the mountains thank you both thank you so much for being here again let's
utilize and empower ourselves think engage it's great and really appreciate
you both thank you so much thank you pleasure