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Testing one, two, three.
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Thanks for your patience.
I had to get this thing streaming in the app.
It looks like we are now, I apologize for being late.
I was actually just in the app, just doing things and ever applying to
comments and I lost target time.
So, um, I got side, I got sidetracked with something productive, um, for this group.
So I did answer a bunch of questions from this past like week and jumped in there
a couple of different account questions and things like that.
Um, and yeah, let's hop into another income session.
My brain's a little scrambled cause they're in the middle of a little launch,
but, um, I love doing these calls.
I just, I love geeking out on the call to actions, the offers,
the marketing side of things.
Um, so one quick announcement, let me just go to the app.
I just got the dates from, uh, truly free.
Okay.
So I'll pull them up here.
Rainmaker family.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So rainmaker family, let's see.
Rainmaker fam.com.
Okay.
Yeah.
So you can always go to the app on your desktop.
Um, uh, you can also go to it on your phone, but pinned right at the top here.
Let me just see which one here.
Can you see this screen?
Is that you're seeing this influenced income?
Are you seeing that?
All right.
Yes.
Okay.
Um, so pinned right at the top here you have, okay, right there.
Cool.
Click on it and you'll see it right there.
Okay.
So basically we got Tuesday, September 24th, Friday, September 27th.
It's basically.
I was at three weeks in a row.
Okay.
Um, it's going to be those sessions.
We're going to make sure we get some replay access to that as well.
In case you've missed one or something like that.
But basically each one is devoted to a, one of those flywheels that he talked
about in the initial training, right?
Bro ASCO, which is, um, his term for blended return on ad spend.
What is CO standard?
I don't remember combined overhead.
Uh, I don't remember.
We call this in Raymier's, we call this the TKAC.
I feel like everyone just makes up a name for this, but basically it's
like, how much money are you really making?
Right?
Like it's just, that's pretty much what it means.
Um, so it's like blend and return on ad spend across all your platforms.
Um, so he's been doing a deep dive on that.
Definitely.
Um, that's going to be, I think, pretty advanced.
These ones I think will be really great for like customer multiplication,
fractal marketing about influencer marketing.
How do you get people to talk about your product?
How you get people to share?
How do you like get that flywheel working in your favor?
That's going to be pretty epic as well.
So, um, yeah, those are the six sessions.
Of course you guys also get access to this workshop.
It's a two day, um, workshop.
Um, that'd be Tuesday and Wednesday, the 15th and 16th.
I believe it doesn't say on here, it says, yeah, special guests
that at the truly free headquarters.
I believe this is live.
I don't think he's saying come to the truly free headquarters, but I'm not sure.
I'm going to ask for clarity on that.
Um, but we got the, the times here.
It's 3 PM Eastern standard time and 1 PM or 1 PM Pacific or 3 PM Eastern.
Okay.
Like wherever time zone you're in, figure it out there.
But yeah.
Um, if you go off to the Rainmaker time zone, we always say PST.
So that's 1 PM.
Okay.
Um, so those would be on those days.
Awesome.
All right.
So let me stop sharing my screen.
And, uh, if you guys have questions, you guys throw your hands up.
Okay.
We had a bunch here.
Very good.
And, uh, let me, okay.
I think everything else is good here.
Um, I'll get my phone if we need to get on Instagram or do anything over there.
Um, and let's do it.
So I found this splendid return on advertising spend across on all channels.
Oh, I was so close.
The cross, wait, what's the co?
Okay.
Uh, return on ad spend cross across, across all channels.
Oh, that's the last one.
There's, Oh, a co co across all.
I don't know.
It's bad.
That's what I wrote down.
Well, that is what it is.
That's what I'm saying.
It's like, it's your, basically how much you spend everywhere across all channels.
But I was like, what is the co-standard?
I don't know.
You know, so we'll have to, we'll have to show up to all find out.
Okay.
Um, cool.
Well, um, Susan, you are, you're up.
I think you had the first hand up.
Let's hop into it.
Let's, um, uh, I do have, we have a PM session.
I'm, I'm committed to tonight for the bootcamp that's going on right now.
So I probably have to cut it off right at the hour on this one.
So try to let's, we'll, we'll go as quick as we can, but also as
deep as we can, if we need to, right.
If we have a teaching moment, we'll definitely do that.
So yeah.
Okay.
Go for it.
Quick and deep, still not getting followers, but I'm getting about each
video is getting about 300 to 9,000 views, but I'm not, I looked at my, um,
followers, the wonderful 27 people.
They aren't really the people I want to, I want to hit, to be honest.
I mean, I'm looking at, I'm looking at women.
you know, 25 to 50, basically,
because it's, and so I'm wondering
if I give that digital marketing away,
because I haven't given anything away.
All my call to actions are, hey, follow, join us,
da, da, da, da, nothing with any me.
And so I thought, how do I get this digital,
like a little manifestation journal or something?
And how do I get that onto my link?
Do I just copy the link onto ManyChat?
Or what do you think I should do?
That's what I was thinking.
Great questions, yeah.
Remind me of the account again.
I'm sorry, I don't keep all your guys' accounts in mind.
Idea Empire.
Yeah, that's right, okay.
All in the home, I'm sure.
But yeah. You like the name.
I know that's good.
I do like the name.
Wait, Idea, what was it?
Empire. Empire, mm-hmm.
That's an interesting strategy.
If you have a lower follower count,
because of course you have hundreds,
it's harder to do this,
but lower follower count,
actually go click on those people.
I never thought to do that, but that's genius.
Click on the people and see like,
are these the people I'm trying to reach?
So you're doing that and you're like,
oh wait, actually, I'm not sure, you know?
So yeah, and it seems like your reels
are starting to take off
as far as like getting more views-ish.
Some of them are getting in the thousands,
but it's not converting into followers.
Simplify your space, clear your mind,
tips for clutter-free home and mind,
ideas to lead an organized life.
You kind of helped me with that on Tuesday, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Simplify your space, clean mind.
So it's more organized.
My ones that did well were organization
and kind of mental health tips, you know?
So organize your home and organize your mind
for a better life.
So just those two things.
I took out the fitness and the cooking.
I like how specific it is now.
I'm almost wondering if you narrow it down even more,
because when I read it, the first time I read it,
now that you said it, I'm like, oh yeah,
but the first time I read it,
I always pay attention to that first
because that's how people are when they're on Instagram.
I'm like, I kind of was like,
oh, it's about like home organization, right?
Because I just kind of heard home there and organize.
I don't know, for me, that's what I thought.
I'm wondering if you just say tips for a clutter-free mind,
right?
Because a clutter-free home,
you can relate it to a clutter-free mind.
And this is all about kind of like sharing powerful ideas
and tips and tricks and hacks.
So ideas to lead an organized life,
ideas to, so I would go tips for a clutter-free mind,
ideas to something here,
but maybe it's not organized life.
It's something around like, you know, ideas to level,
like, you know, this is my language,
but level you up, you know,
or something that's like kind of like,
oh, wow, this is like gonna be ideas that change your life
or ideas that, yeah, ideas that change your life.
That could be good.
So maybe simplify your space, clear your mind,
tips for a clutter-free,
oh, I guess you have mind here, here.
Simplify your space, clear your mind,
tips for a clutter-free.
Trying to think of another word than mind
so we don't repeat it, but you get what I'm saying.
Yeah.
I think that's kind of is like just getting that dialed in
to make sure.
And then, yeah, I would keep going with the reels
and see if we can get something to hit,
like as far as converting to followers.
I don't know, I like the name so much,
but I'm like, I don't want you to change the name,
but that could be one thing we do try eventually
if it's still like, ah, it's not getting views.
Yeah.
As far as the bio goes,
you're saying like giving away a digital product
of some sort right here?
Yeah, like a manifestation journal or something.
There's tons of stuff that you all have, yeah.
Yeah, you could do it through many chat.
You could say like, you could set it up many chat
and say like DM me the word mind, right?
And I'll send you my free meditation journal
or whatever it is, meditation guide.
And then our manifestation guide is what you said.
And then in many chat, yeah, you can just set up a link
right to the guide on Canva.
So I'm in Canva right now for remote business bootcamp here,
but like, let me just show you how to do it.
So if I was gonna, this is my guide, let's say,
you would just click the share button here.
And then you could either do a public view link like this,
right, or if it's like a template you wanna give them,
then you use, where is it?
There's like a more button, oh, see all, right?
And then you use this template link,
but that's only if you want them to be able to edit it.
But if it's just like you wanna just post it on Canva,
be able to edit it anytime you want to,
I would just use this one, which is the public view link.
And then that'll be the link you put in many chat
and you can just deliver it just like that.
And you're kind of collecting the information on many chat.
So yes, you can ask them for email.
Yes, you can have a funnel, but like,
just, I would keep it.
really simple right now and just see if you start getting some engagement from the audience by
saying that and some of the things. So you'll do a PVC, you'll do a little caption,
and you'll say like, you know, something like, get my manifestation guide. And honestly,
you might start posting some manifestation type content to the account. And if you think that's
like an angle you're going to go, then maybe you work that into the bio as well. Yeah, manifest
your idea. I could just do like a weekly organizer to keep it simple and not confuse everyone.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Heather said manifest your idea empire. Kind of cool. Yeah. Brandi was
saying, I don't think idea empire relates to your content. It's a great name, but maybe empire
of the mind would be a better fit. Yeah. That's something there's a little, like,
I'm trying to think how we connect it where like, cause the name is it's so short and sweet,
but it's hard to know exactly what it is. And so maybe the people who are clicking it.
So many names. Yeah. You're just finally like, I went through like an hour of trying to get a name
and you're right. It doesn't, it wasn't what I, I wanted to do like positively positive,
that kind of just a positive vibe. And then I got to idea empire.
Yeah. So I don't know, maybe, maybe it is the name that people are just like,
the people are clicking it or the wrong people and just then they're landing on, they're like,
Oh, I don't know. This isn't for me. You know? So yeah, they are the wrong people. I mean,
there's some like young guys and stuff. I don't know. Okay. Yeah. Don't think that's, you know.
Yeah. So maybe, maybe it is more so tell let's go back to the root. Like, what do you think is the
theme of the media page that you would like? What's in your heart that you're like, man,
I would love to build a brand around this. I could speak on stage about this kind of thing.
Like this is, this is fun for me, easy for me. Like, is there something in like that you're
drawn towards? Is it the manifestation thing? Or you said just like positive inspiration,
motivation, what is it for you that we could help maybe identify?
Yeah. I mean, my experience is varied. I, I, I was a dancer, so I was thinking of doing ballet
dancing, but then that's kind of very narrow. I could talk about that forever. I'm in sales.
All types of dance or just, just ballet? I would say everything. Cause I was in that for about 20
years. So I definitely get that. I still teach, you know, so I could do that.
Do you watch like when you're on Instagram, do you like watch dance videos? Are they coming
across your feed? I do, but I guess I thought of that as more of the younger professionals right
now than me, but I guess I could do something like moms of dancers and, you know, help them navigate.
Should it actually be that specific? But then you could just go dance. You could just go like
world's best dancers or something like that. Like, or like dances are, or, you know,
like something like that where just like, just curate the best dance videos in the world. Like
you'll be able to find a ton of those. And the audience will probably be all over the place,
you know? But you could definitely find a way to monetize that audience right through, especially
you're already teaching dance lessons. You're, you know about it, right? So you can sell guides,
you could sell, you know, improve your dance in this way. You could do partnerships with other
dance teachers. Like there's, there could be a lot there potentially if you're into that niche,
that definitely could be a thing. Right. And I could probably get my products because I know some
professionals who could, you know, put it on their feet. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you're already kind
of into that, you're already like, I was like looking for that thing. It's like already kind
of a passion. I like that idea. I mean, I think you could do a lot. There's a lot of dancing
on Instagram and TikTok. Not all of it's good dancing, right? Like some, it's just like the
trends and the weird stuff, but you could really curate like, like awe-inspiring dance, you know,
or something like that and make it like bringing you the best blah, blah, blah. And I would say
like, you know, I wouldn't start a brand new account. You might just repurpose this one.
Since it's only 26 followers, those 26 people be like, what, what happened? Like I'm following
it. But you know, a lot of people like dancing videos. Like I'm not a dancer, but if I see a
good dancing video, like, and it's like impressive, I'm like, I'll watch that. Right. Break dancing or
whatever choreographed. Like I find myself watching that stuff all the time. So yeah,
I don't know. It could be bigger than you think that that niche.
Right. Okay. Yeah. I was just thinking I'm older now and retired. So the young people
have all those, but they wouldn't come at it from my perspective. So it might just work.
Yeah. Perfect. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you so much.
I found one here.
That's like, I just typed in like dance, best dance.
Right.
So like, here's the one right here.
So this is best dance official and it's got 4 million followers.
Look at that.
That's crazy.
Right.
Oh, 4 million followers.
I haven't clicked on any of these videos.
It looks pretty random, you know, but we're just curating popular viral
dance videos from around the world.
Right.
Um, so I just searched, so I would, yeah, just play around some dance
names and see what you can find.
But I've tried to make, see this name.
I love how it tells you what it is where you've been click it.
So if you could have something like that, where it's like awe inspiring
dance or like, you know, um, jaw drop dance moves or something like, I don't
know, best world's best dancers.
Like, I mean, who's not going to want to get featured on a page
that says world's best dancer.
Right.
Um, so people will start tagging you and trying to get featured
on there, like as it grows.
Um, I could definitely see that being a cool niche.
Okay.
Awesome.
I will, I will look into that.
Sweet.
And that is super easy for me.
So yeah, that's what I'm looking for.
It's like something you're already kind of into and it's our Instagram is already
serving you up that type of content.
So yeah, that's cool.
All right.
Let's, let's hop over to Lindy.
What's up Lindy?
Hello.
Um, I have a couple of questions actually.
And we first going back to what she was just talking about.
Um, so I have some freebies that people are having to comment and, um, go through
many chat and then also have some paid things, promoted those a ton, but what
I'm wondering is because when that clicks them through that, they have
to put in their name and email.
And do you think that's deterring people from wanting to do it as opposed
to just clicking and getting it?
Yeah, it can be.
Where, where is it asking them for the name and email?
Did you build something like a, like on stand store or something?
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
There's a couple of ways to do freebies, right?
One way is, well, it's kind of like levels, right?
One way is just give it to them.
Don't ask for anything.
Right.
But even if you do that through many chat, you still technically are building a list
because even if they just engage with many chat, many chat is like adding that
person to your many chat contact list.
So it's kind of sneaky.
You're still kind of like building a list without having to do the name and email.
The name and email definitely is a deterrent.
So it's kind of like, um, I see it like levels of testing the
freebie or the product, right?
Level one is like, just give them a link.
Right.
That's just like, let's just see if it works.
Level two is like, ask for a name and email.
Right.
And it's like, if the freebie is not good enough, people won't do it.
Right.
Like they're like, nah, I'm on too many lists.
I don't want to be on it.
They don't want to do it.
Right.
Level three is probably name, email, phone number.
Right.
Like, they're like, oh no, I'm not doing that.
Right.
And then, and then level four would be like money, right?
Like a dollar.
And then you kind of work your way up.
So it's all about like, you know, if the, if it's the right
thing, people will do anything.
Right.
They'll pay any money, any dollar they'll, they'll do anything.
So it's kind of like testing it.
So just test it.
And, uh, if you're seeing like a low conversion rate, you could always try
without the name field and just do email.
Right.
It's harder to like personalize your emails, but you know, it is building a list.
And then if that's still having friction, either you got to make
the freebie more attractive, try to reframe it in a different way or go less
friction, which would be, Hey, just comment this word.
I'll send it directly to you.
No opt-in needed, you know?
Um, so yeah, a lot of people are on lists.
Like, so they just like, they're hesitant to throw their email into stuff
because they don't want to get spammed.
But, um, I always put like a disclaimer on there.
We don't spam you too much.
Yes.
And so do you ever, um, I don't know, in terms of logistically, just put that
link to that freebie in your bio.
Like, again, that would be like the lowest barrier to entry, but I would
try to get them on many chat because, um, yeah, I would try to get them on
many chat just by saying, Hey, comment this word and I'll send you for free.
You know, you could even say no opt-in needed.
Right.
And I would do that because the, the bio is just, um, it's almost too easy, you
know, and then it's kind of like, no, there's no engagement and you have,
you get no feedback to someone clicks the bio link and there's no, you would
actually have no idea how many people are clicking it, you know?
Right.
Okay.
Great.
Thank you.
Cool.
Awesome.
Melinda.
Hi Steven.
Hey, um, when you look at my page, it is at career campaign.
Okay.
Career campaign.
Gotcha.
All right.
Yep.
That's it.
So I teach a small college and, uh, I'm making a page for college students to
help them in their career journey.
Okay.
Nice.
I want to monetize this so I can give back to my college, to my students.
And I want to be able to take my students on admissions trip this summer.
So I've planned, but here's what I, so the 51 followers are all of my students, because
I told them, take out your phone and follow me, and they went, A for the day, and, but
other than that, I'm not getting anything.
I have a student worker, she's helping me.
So we're, I mean, we're starting to get some views, you know, like we're hitting 2000 there
which was decent.
We changed some things after meeting with you, so you can see, we look different than
when we started, and then we went down, now I think we're coming back a little bit from
that, but my students tell me that they just scroll and like, scroll and like, and I'm
struggling with, then how do I monetize that?
So I've done three things, and I've got nothing.
Yeah.
Just, and not even things worth, they're all free so far.
One was the templates that you provided, I used one of those, I created a list of action
verbs for a resume, I put that on there.
Okay, nice.
Was that this one, or let's see.
No, the action verbs is the one with the, no, that one, scroll down, keep coming, keep
coming, it's a lady talk, keep coming, keep coming, keep, right there, it's got 160.
Oh, here we go.
So.
You can help with action, resume, and action.
Yeah, yeah, okay, I got it.
Nothing.
And so, yeah, I don't know how to stop the scroll and get a like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, what, what's this video here, action verbs resume, let me just see
this.
So what I would try to do definitely is I would try to pair a call to action with a
proven viral content.
So this video, it's not like, we've got to catch them sometimes with the video, you
know what I mean?
Yeah, I like the, if only there was a page to help me get a job, I like that language
a lot.
So I would definitely try that here and there.
I like the memes too, and like, kind of like POV, or like, you know, like having different
angles on that, but I would definitely try to pair a call to action with some sort of
proven viral content.
Cause that's just going to give it more chance to get in front of more people.
Right.
And, um, cause this one just, it really didn't get too many.
It got three likes of like a hundred views.
Right.
And so it's kind of, that's, that's a pretty typical kind of ratio, right?
If it has, you know, that's like 2000 views, a hundred likes, but no comments, right.
It's something that's like, you have to have tons of views before people will comment,
or it has to just be something just really catchy.
Right.
That's kind of getting them to, you know, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to
you know, drop their opinion or whatever it is.
Like, I know someone posted in the app, like they misspelled something, right.
And then like people were just commenting about that.
So you never know what's going to be, that's going to spike the comments.
Right.
But I would definitely try to pair it next time with some sort of proven viral content.
So you could like pair it with something like this, right.
Like, even this is just a meme.
It's not really like a viral video or something like that, but like, maybe this is like a
funnier clip or this is right.
And then you could kind of use that as the, kind of the hook and then lead into the call
to action.
So I would try that and just try to try to pair it with something.
And yeah, I like looking for stuff like this, like where you have funny things.
And then you also have like educational things like this, right.
Yeah.
I mean, if I looked overall for educational things aren't hitting as well as our funny
things.
Yeah.
That's what we see too.
Unlike the health account, it's like the funny stuff, like people just kind of want to chill
out, but like, yes, like people will be drawn to the, and like the tips and things like
that, that you're finding as long as they're strong, you know?
But it's harder to find those things, especially in a smaller, this is like a, it's a smaller
niche.
So there's probably only a handful of creators who are like making content like this.
So you may have to kind of like repurpose other stuff or kind of like use this like
this, but then you kind of put, you know, of course, like your tips here in the, in
the caption.
Yeah, that's what we've been trying to do.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think like career campaign, empowering costumers on the career journey, expertise,
resources, inspiration.
I would maybe like relate that to something.
Like I liked this language here because it was so like, I'm always looking for dumb
language, you know, when I say dumb, right.
You just like, you never see those studies on presidents that win the campaigns.
They always use the dumbest language.
Like it's like whoever speaks at the fifth grade level wins, right.
And if you like use too many big words, like people just, I don't know.
So I like this, like just help me get a job.
It just feels so like natural.
When like, you know, career journey and things like this, like, I like that it's like, but
I might say expertise, resources, and inspiration to help you get a job, you know?
And I might even put that one.
one first. And like, I might even put get a job right at the
beginning, or like even here instead of career campaign,
because that's your name. That's kind of repeat. Yeah, I might
say like, you know, how to get an awesome job or something like
that, like how to get a job fast, something like that, like
how to get an awesome job or like how to get how to get how
how long can you go in the name field how to get a dream job or
something like that, right? And then kind of expertise, resource
and inspiration to get you hired fast, right? And then maybe this
line, you throw on the bottom line, and then this one's kind
of this, it's a repeat, right? Kind of so you could trim that
up a little bit, but have it be really clear career campaign
gives me a little bit of insight. But then name field
could really lock it in where you're like, this is what we're
about. And then and then yeah, I think just keep on going with
the PVC thing. I'm starting to have some take here. How often
are you posting per day? Is it once a day on this one? Yeah,
once a day. Yeah, just keep going with it. Because you'll
start to see him building. I think that little tweak, you
might see a little more conversions and keep using like
kind of language, right? Like how it feels to add a cover
letter to your resume. Like, that's a great like, way you're
taking this and adding it to that, right? So yeah, that's
try to find these funnier videos and then try to relate it
somehow to like getting a job, career change, like whatever
that is, you know. And then when you find the educational stuff,
sneak it in there for sure. But you know, yeah, totally. That's
great. Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you. You can also these
ones with the tick tock. Yeah, there's a way to download it
without the tick tock. What do you call that watermark? Yeah,
so we use like snap tech, I think it is snap tech. So
there's snap insta and snap tech. But this will download it
without the watermark and it should perform better to
sometimes when people see the watermark, they're just like,
Oh, what is this? And they kind of click off of it. But so if
you are grabbing stuff from tick tock, just do that. And I'll
just get rid of that little watermark that kind of bounces
around. Okay. Yeah. Okay, awesome. Appreciate it. Nice.
Nice. Nice. Okay, cool. This is cool. Because you guys have
learning skill sets. Like these are the same skill sets that you
would use if you had a website or a funnel and you were driving
traffic paying for ads from Facebook to your website. You
got to do use the same kind of thinking of like, Oh, I just
need to change the headline and tweak this thing. You know,
we're always testing stuff. Even this bootcamp we're doing, I
think I told you guys this, we ran ads to just different names.
Like about a week ago, we ran ads just to like graphics that
just had the names. It was like remote business bootcamp. And
it was like, I forget the other names now at this point, but it
was like retire your husband challenge. And it was like a
family wealth workshop, right? We like came with like five or
six different names. And we ran ads to those just small budgets
to see which one was working. And then whatever one was
working, we we rebranded everything with that name. So
it's like why guess when you just kind of can like get data
on Instagram, of course, we're not giving us as much data, but
we can test things, right? Like test a different name, test a
different headline. And just tip for everybody using that
name field, if your name field, right, that where it says the
career campaign, right on hers is the same as the Instagram
name, it's kind of just wasted real estate, right? I would use
that to like kind of tell people what it's about. And you guys
haven't already tried it. This thing's getting better as it's
learning. The proponent, Sophie, the AI, we actually put it
inside the Rainmaker app now. So if you go to a the AI toolkit
here, this Instagram bio expert, you click on this and you can
like fill it out and it will, it'll write some bios for you.
Okay. And you're like, let's see. It's good. Okay. So once
you once you finish chatting with it, sometimes they'll even
give you a little PS and say, Hey, maybe try this name. And
it'll just give you some cool ideas. So it's not perfect. Of
course, humans are the best still, but as again, pretty
good. So might as well leverage it. Okay. Brandy, Brandy Baldwin,
let's hop over to you here.
Hello. Well, it's kind of perfect. It's kind of perfect
that you went right to me after, after talking about the AI,
because so I just got back in town after being away for two
and a half weeks. And my intern went back to school two weeks
ago. So I kind of ended up like with nothing happening for the
last two weeks. And so today, I was like, I need to hit the
ground running. So I sat down. The first thing I did was open
the Rainmaker app. I saw that. And I spent all day basically
just rebranding. And she did an amazing she did an amazing job.
So
Oh, that's awesome.
So yeah, I still have to do the logo.
Um, but okay.
So my question is, yeah, I just was going to actually suggest like to everybody,
like if you really want to just refine your, um, your bio, just pop it in there
and tell, ask her, you know, for suggestions.
It was amazing.
Um,
Oh yeah.
Quick note on that.
I saw someone say it wasn't working.
It wasn't working for like the first day on mobile.
So if you try it on your phone, it wasn't working.
It should be now on mobile.
Um, but if you weren't, if you tried it and it didn't work, it's a, it should
be working now and, um, it's in the Rainmaker web app, okay.
Which is not this app.
It's the one where we do this in it's the original one
that we had before this one.
So we're in between apps right now.
So it's kind of confusing, but though Rainmaker it's the app
dot Rainmakers.com where the training portal and stuff is it's in there.
Yeah.
That's, and I was on my computer, so I did not try it on my phone.
Yeah.
Um, okay.
So my question is I am going to hire, um, a, um, VA and, um, Hannah was
actually generous to help me give me one of her people that she didn't
choose, but I haven't decided a hundred percent to use them yet.
Yeah.
Once I hire someone and I apologize if you've already discussed this, but
like I have been a little bit scrambled lately, um, you know,
like traveling and everything.
Once you hire them, you said, it said to, to, um, estimate
five to 10 hours for training.
How do we, is there a training piece in there or do we put them in our, can
we give them access to our app?
Like, how does that work?
Yeah, I would give them, um, you know, I'll give you guys some links here.
Give them, um, let me show you on my screen.
A lot of times the people that we're hiring right off these websites, they
have some sort of experience with something like Instagram or some
sort of social media thing.
Right.
Um, so you really just kind of need to like, not train them on everything,
but, but just kind of like guide them.
Right.
So, um, it's really more the PVC strategy I want to train him on.
Yeah.
Go to the 30 day downpour right here.
And then, um, underneath media channel mastery, uh, two lesson two.
Click that, um, make a copy of it and then you're just like, okay, yeah,
this is a great thing to take them through where you basically, I would
go customize it yourself first.
So like, like for this one, it says like, you know, we're in the
health niche or something, right?
So like, definitely like customize it to your own liking, like what you're
looking for and then have them kind of just go through this and in here,
there is, um, the template, um, and then you're just going to click on it.
And then you're going to go to the training page and you're going to
go through this and in here there is, um, the templates there is, uh, how
to find the proven viral content.
Um, there is, uh, kind of like a recommended daily workflow.
Um, uh, what do you call this?
VPN, uh, login information, caption strategy.
You can delete anything you don't like in here, but, um, and brand voice
definitely like, you know, um, use, use the AI or whatever, and write something
out here, and then if you don't want to do milestones rewards, that's totally fine.
That's just what we did with our person.
But, um, the highlighted stuff is definitely stuff you're going to want to
change before just sending it to them.
Right.
Um, so yeah, start there.
And then like, um, uh, if you want to give a VA login access to your rain
maker app, like that's totally okay to just like guide them where to
go, cause there's a lot in there.
So if you want them to watch through the, what do you call it?
The 30 day downpour, like sessions one through four, they could do that right
here and be like, Hey, watch, I mean, honestly, session two is probably the
most in depth one on the PVC strategy.
And then session three would be anything on like monetization.
But like, if you're just going to have them run the Instagram, then it
pretty much just be session two, you know?
Um, and that kind of goes in depth on that strategy.
Okay.
And, um, cause you could said I could bring my intern to the, to these meetings.
Yeah.
You totally can.
Um, uh, let me think here.
How'd we do that?
Yeah.
Just have them.
I think it's just a zoom link, right?
Yeah.
No, that'd be totally fine.
Yeah.
Um, so if you guys have any VAs or something, you want to send a
UX, like if you hire someone to do the PVC stuff, you want to send
a UX calls, um, that's totally fine.
Just give them the zoom link and then just have them let, let us know.
Like have, you know, if they ask a question, like, Hey, I'm with this
person and we won't think that like someone hijacking the, you know, who's
this person and I don't recognize them, you know, so, um, but no, that'd be
totally fine.
Um, yeah, that'd be totally fine.
Cool.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Okay.
Let's see here.
Um, Joanne, let me see.
Uh, there you are Joanne.
Oh, hi.
Um, I have a at crafty and paper so I can, um, okay, cool.
Let's see.
Do you want me to put in the, um, you said, um, this is your Instagram account.
Yeah.
Say it one more time.
It's crafty paper, crafty and paper and paper.
Okay, nice, nice.
This is awesome.
Okay.
Let me check it out.
What's your question.
You want me to just take a look and kind of see what we can improve.
Yeah.
So it's like a DIY crafty kind of, you know, my actual product that I'm, uh, that,
that is in Amazon right now is flower press, which is kind of like also kind
of creative kind of, why you in kind of like, you know, like, you know, it's
which is kind of like also kind of creative kind of why you in kind of
stuff too, but this crafty and paper brand, uh, that I'm building right
now, it seems so it's kind of like broad.
Um, so I'm posting things like from painting from paper, DIY stuff like
that, creative stuff like that.
I get a lot of views on these.
Yeah.
So I don't know if I should continue with this or should I have like just more
focused, um, page for my flower press, like just posting, uh, I like this a lot.
Yeah.
I think you're, you're onto something here for sure.
Like, I mean, your reels are definitely like doing well, so I think you could
probably just optimize it a little bit to kind of get a little bit more like
people are seeing your account, but they're not like, they're not clicking
to follow yet, so you could change your name here again, like kind of, it says,
and you know, you could, if you want to have it on there, you could say like
blank, blank by Ann or something like that, but you might put something here
instead of your name, like, cause Instagram says, what's your name?
And then they just put it right here.
That's kind of like the headline to your page.
So you might say something like, you know, world's best blank, right?
Like crafts and arts or something like that, um, right in the top.
So kind of like they know immediately what it's about.
Um, and then you kind of have it right here.
Creative products and DIY crafts to spark joy for busy moms, little ones
follow us, uh, for crafty, fun ideas, um, DM creative to learn more when they DM
creative, what do you have there?
Is it like a mini chat?
That's my flower.
Yeah.
That's a mini chat for press my, um, the, um, yeah, the digital product.
Oh, that's great.
Yeah.
I think, I think it's a great setup.
I think that'd be the only thing I would change.
This logo might be a little bit hard to read on, on mobile, you know?
So you might honestly get rid of the logo, kind of the CIP and then, and then
just stack the words crafty and paper, but make them really big, you know?
Um, and then, and then change the name.
And then I think just, I mean, you got a great strategy here, finding good content.
Um, these ones are getting cropped a little bit weird, but like, it seemed
like down here, you had it kind of cropped a little bit better.
Um, do you see how it's kind of like cutting it off on the edges?
Yeah.
It just be, you might just have to like zoom in and on a Canva or something.
So the first two, the, the first two ones, are those the right ones?
Cause I thought I was supposed to make it bigger, like, like a full page.
These ones, honestly, no, I think this style works a little bit better where you
have a little bit of a border around it.
Oh, okay.
Um, like that.
Um, it just like, that's kind of the style that we find work.
And it seems like you're, it got a little bit bigger.
Like you had a vertical video and you kind of resized it maybe.
Yeah.
And then it kind of like got bigger and bigger and bigger.
So it's totally okay.
But like, um, I think it's having consistency cause I like this cause
you can read all the words, you can see the craft here, it's kind of getting
cut off, which makes it look a little bit not as professional.
Um, and then I think these thumbnails look great.
Like you can kind of just zoom in and, um, and just kind of
show what the craft is.
I think that's great.
Yeah.
But I think you're honest.
I mean, you have reels that are getting 2000, 25,000, 2000.
So it's definitely working.
I think it's just about getting people to follow.
Um, yeah.
I noticed when I, uh, changed the, um, the format of my reels, like I made it
bigger, the photo, the, the, you know, the video, yeah, more followers.
So maybe it's, maybe because, um, the ones that I was posting is like a smaller,
like a square format that, you know, but when I got, when I got it bigger,
I noticed that I got more followers.
One thing you could do is, um, let me see, I'll show you guys all this.
Cause it could be really helpful if your followers are lower, but you
did see like a spike in followers, right?
There's like, Oh wow.
Like, I mean, this could be for anyone, right?
Like, Oh wow.
I went up a little bit.
It's nice to know exactly where that spike came from.
You can actually see it on, um, on Instagram.
So let me share my screen here and I'll show you guys where to find it.
Um, take me just a second.
iPhone via airplay.
And then we're going to do this and then we're going to do this.
This like so many steps to share your iPhone screen, click, click, click, click,
click. Okay. And then it has to load for like three seconds. Okay. Can you guys
see that? Okay, cool. So, um, when you are on Instagram, first of all, you
should see this professional dashboard here. I'll go to my, um, I'll go to
health hacks here. Do you see that professional dashboard? You guys can
even pull up your Instagram right now and check this out. If you don't see
the professional dashboard right there, right in the middle, they always say
like creator dashboard or something like that. You need to click on the
upper right hand corner and go into your settings and you need to come down
and look for see mine says for professionals. That's like a whole
section. Um, but you look for a button that says like, like turn into a
professional account or like something like that. There's like, basically
there's like basically basic Instagram accounts and there's like professional
accounts, right? And it's free. You just got to click one button basically and
enable it and then it unlocks all that data for you. So make sure you have
that enabled. Uh, and it'll ask you, do you want to be a creator or business?
You can do either. It doesn't matter. Um, we like creator. I ask, can I
finish this role? Okay. And then, um, once you have that enabled, okay.
You'll be able to see the professional dashboard, but then what's really cool
is you can go into any reel. Okay. So like, let's scroll through my reels
here and let's go look for one that, you know, I mean, you could do it on any
of them, but when you click on them, there's that, um, there's a little
insights button. You see that in the bottom left-hand corner. And if you
click view insights, you can look at each reel that you've ever done and you
can look at actually down here, it's really interesting. You can see how
many follows it got you. So this reel brought me one follower. Let's do that.
And so like, it's kind of nice. You can go through, click insights, go down
and just look for like, okay, this one did zero followers. Right. Let's go
down. Let's click insights. Let's do okay. This one, two followers. Right.
And I might just make a mental note about this. If anyone's using a VA,
like a virtual assistant, I would have them do this. Like I'd have them just
like every time they post, like kind of look at the last post or like every
week, kind of like, see like which post got me the most followers, because
once you kind of start learning what's working, you can just do more of it.
Right. So if it's, if I'm looking at this and I'm seeing, oh, wow, recipes
really get me a lot of followers. Right. Then I'm going to do more recipes.
If it's, oh, when I post workout tips, it gets me more followers. Right.
I'm going to do more of those. If it's when I do more funny stuff, it gets
more followers. Then I'm going to do that. See, these ones are not going to
be any followers. Right. Usually for me on this account, it's been the big
ones that I kind of go off like this, like this one had 30,000 views and
look at that six followers. Right. Not a crazy amount, but it's definitely
working. Right. But there's a couple of ones that are just like, I don't
know, I haven't had my VA do a spreadsheet of this yet, but I think I
will do that. I do this actually on my main account on Steve's Diaz to kind
of see what's working, what people are saving, what's leading to followers.
Cause it is really interesting. You'll just find these little kind of like,
oh, that thing really works. I don't know why, but Instagram is promoting
that and the people are seeing it. They're resonating with my account and
they're following. So definitely like make that some homework for everybody
today. Go, go look at that, follow kind of profile activity area and look
for ones that are kind of above the rest when it comes to the followers,
it's gaining you. And then try that again. Like you could not, don't do the
same exact post, but maybe try the same caption again, or try to find something
else from that creator again, or like something that like kind of is similar
to it so that it gets in front of more of those people. And you see if that
continues to, um, continues to trend that direction. So yeah. Okay. Put in
the app, how you got there with the professional dashboard. Yeah. We
actually are creating some, um, Dan, some tutorial videos and stuff like
that. Cause, um, I just want to make some slower videos where we can just
kind of walk people through where to find it, how to turn it on, how to set
everything up. Um, we do show that in a 30 day downpour, but it's part of
like a big, long video. So I want to make a short video on that. Just make
sure you guys have that enabled. There's a couple other settings. We'll
probably do like a setting deep dive video or something that kind of goes
through all the settings. Um, yeah.
Um, one last question about, um, you have to link or do we not supposed to
link to Facebook, the Instagram?
Um, I've heard mixed things on it. I like it cause it gives you more reach.
Um, but someone was saying, I don't know if that was someone here, um,
yourself as well. They were saying like when they linked to Facebook, they
couldn't schedule posts, um, on Instagram. So if you're, I don't know if
that's true. Now I haven't looked into that cause I've just been always, um,
linked. Actually mine isn't linked to Facebook. Now I think about it. Um, I
don't think any of ours are linked to Facebook. So, but we don't use the
schedule posts. We post all manually on all of our accounts. Um, using, using,
uh, VAs and team members and things like that. So, um, but that's what I
heard. I don't know if that was me. Sorry. Okay. You're saying someone
was linked to Facebook, basically.
It's the cross posting.
So I, I pushed schedule cause I thought, Oh, that'd be easy to schedule.
And then it said, you are not allowed to schedule because
you're cross posts to Facebook.
So it's not linked to Facebook.
It was even cross posts to Facebook.
And then I don't know if it's cause I don't have a lot of followers or what,
but it said that, and then it said, so if you undo that setting, then you can schedule.
So, okay.
Got it.
Yeah.
It's kind of this like catch, catch 22 thing where like, do I do it?
Do I not?
I know, Amy, you're saying you have millions of views on Facebook
and like a hundred on Instagram.
So sometimes it gives you extra reach.
And sometimes those people, like I know for me, I'll be scrolling on Facebook.
I'll find an account I like, and I'll actually go over to
Instagram to follow it every once in a while.
So I like the extra reach, but if it's taking away the scheduling feature and
that's essential for your workflow, then maybe don't do it.
So yeah.
Awesome.
Okay.
Chelsea, let me hop over to you here.
Um, Chelsea man, I answered a bunch of your questions in the app too, just today.
So I don't know if you saw those yet, but, um, I did hop on some of those.
I haven't seen that.
Um, so mine is that tidy tips daily.
Okay.
I've had quite a bit of trouble trying to put into play what you recommended
for me on the above and the above and below, um, split screen.
And I'm not really liking the way that it looks.
Oh, for the reaction thing.
Yeah.
Um, yeah, I'm looking at one now.
So like, it's kind of like, oh, are you doing it on Canva or are
you doing it in, in the Instagram app?
I tried to do it on, um, Instagram with the split deal and I could not make it work.
I couldn't adjust the size of the video at all.
I mean, it would just put it in the middle and cut everything else off around it.
So I couldn't adjust it.
So I went to Canva, but it's going to, I have a big learning curve with that.
It's just so much easier for me to put my sticker on top and just be done with it.
So I was wondering if maybe, um, I need to come up with some different films,
you know, film myself doing things because I've got like five different
stickers and it's all pretty much the same thing, so it's becoming kind of
repetitive, but something else that I noticed, um, is that once I started
putting affiliate links in there, my numbers dropped, like just plummeted.
Where are you putting the links?
Are you putting it?
Are you just mentioning it?
Yeah.
I'm just, they're like, I don't have them in every one of them.
Um, this one wasn't one.
Let me see.
Let me look at mine.
Um, the, the ones that say like the power washer one, um, go down just a
little bit right there on the left.
Yeah.
Um, I put it in here, um, drop link.
Um, and then I've stopped using follow comment.
Um, I've taken all of those words out.
So my most recent videos don't have those in there anymore, but I've had, I've not
had anybody click on any of my affiliate links.
I've not had anybody accept any of my free guides for the cleaning
tips or anything like that.
Um, yeah.
So I don't know.
I don't know if I'm.
You're definitely doing the right thing though.
I think I love this.
Satisfying thing, using PV, PVC, and then kind of pivoting it to something like this.
I found more PVC as of yesterday and today that's like 50 million plus, uh,
views, so I'm going to be putting those on there.
I found one particular guy that's just got, I mean, he's just out the wazoo
with the amount of views that he's got.
So I'm hoping that pushing that out there might help increase my followers.
But do you think I need a lay, do you think it's putting me in the affiliate
links that people are like, eh, she's just trying to sell us?
I don't think it is.
I think like, I mean, I know like you're putting this in there, like the Amazon
affiliate, I'm making vacation on qualifying purchases, you know, and then
you're also putting this in there too.
So.
I don't know.
You're, you're doing a lot of disclaimers and things like that, which is, I don't
know, you could try taking those out for a season.
Um, you could always put this in like your, you know, in your stand store
kind of terms and conditions, you know, kind of the bottom, um, I know like
legally, I think you're supposed to say like, I make a commission on this thing.
Like, I think you're supposed to have it somewhere.
Right.
So I would put it in the stand store.
I think that'd be totally fine.
Okay.
I don't see a lot of affiliates doing this on Instagram, you know, and then I
might just take this off just in case.
Like it's just, just take it off for a season.
And then I liked the idea of just trying a couple more of these, like, you know, don't
work too hard of them.
Just be like, you know, shoot 10 real quick, um, and just maybe just rotate through them
and see if like, there's one that in particular is going more than the others.
I mean, it looks like you definitely are getting the views, but it's, it's, um, hasn't really
taken off yet.
Yeah.
It's not converting over to follows really.
I mean, I broke a hundred finally this past week, but it's not really like one particular
video.
Yeah.
And there's, I think one in the very beginning that I got six off of, it was one that was
talking about, uh, wouldn't it be great to have a house that smells all amazing was my
hook.
Okay.
Yeah.
So that one got the most followers, but that could have been a lot of my friends and family
to show up on that.
So, um, yeah, so I was just wondering, I just, I just really don't like the way that over
under looks to me.
It's hard to, I don't, I honestly don't, I haven't used the remix feature as much personally.
It kind of fuses me as well.
So you might be better on that one.
It's yeah.
I feel like they, it's such a new feature that they're kind of like, haven't really
fully dialed it in yet because it's hard to like, get it right.
I like, I think the sticker is fine.
I know you could say and try that style.
Um, the other style you could try would be, um, we call it the, I think we call it the
remix style, which is where you do a reaction and then post the thing.
So it would be like the first, um, I'm trying to think of someone I could show you that
that does this, like the first few seconds are kind of you, like, you know, maybe it's
pointing right.
Like you're just like, and like above you as text, like, I wish I knew this cleaning
tip beforehand.
It's like two seconds.
And then it plays the cleaning tip.
Right.
It's like, Oh, I wish I knew this.
It's like, you know, you do like a little reaction, like just for a second, a little,
little text that kind of is like a good hook.
And then it plays the video.
So that's another way to do it.
Um, the other way is play the video right away.
And then at the end, you do like a reaction, right?
Like that'd be kind of like the, the copy style.
Right.
Um, he's kind of the famous guy that's the kind of copy, I don't know how to spell his
name.
Okay.
I forget.
The guy that's got the eye thing that he does the, uh, there's one day he just, the faces
he makes these.
Yeah.
I don't know how to spell his name.
Okay.
There it is.
K H a B this guy.
Oh no.
Yeah.
This is him.
So he's gotten more advanced over the years, but his beginning videos, it would just be
like some sort of like thing.
Right.
And then he just would kind of just make a face right about like, Oh, there's an easier
way to do this.
Right.
So, um, so he's playing a PVC at the beginning, right?
This is not his video.
And then at the end, he's going to like react to it basically.
So, um, I don't know what the reaction's going to be on this one, but you know, he just does
something that kind of is like reacting to it again.
He's okay.
So he's saying, Oh yeah, look, you can do it this way.
Like it's easier.
So he kind of does this, like, he'll like show like people doing something really hard
or something.
And then he's just like, well react to it.
Yeah.
This guy blew up.
Cause it's kind of like, he doesn't, it's like a universal language.
Like all humans can understand this video, right?
He's like, look, a spoon, right?
Like that's it.
So that's kind of his style, but, um, but you could do the other guys I was showing
in the, um, this is one of yukes friends here.
He'll do a lot of these where it's like that first little, you know, clip and then a PVC,
right?
This is actually a video of him, but he'll do that a lot where there's a PVC afterwards.
And it's just that first little clip.
It could just be like lifestyle footage, like he's talking in this one, but it could be
just you just doing whatever, shopping, anything.
You just kind of set the phone.
You kind of get a shot.
Sorry.
Okay.
I'm going to, I'll do some more videos of me, get some more clips.
So I'll have a few things to choose from and I'll, I'll try to do the up and the above
under thingy, but it was so frustrating.
I was so frustrated with it the other day.
I couldn't, and I Googled everybody and nobody taught, they talked about how to do the split
screen, but nobody talked about how to get the video shrunk down where it would actually
fit inside the box.
And he was just showing it and it was this video that was only this much of the video
you could see.
And I was like, that's not telling us how to do it.
So, okay, well I'll, I'll, I'll try that a little bit.
Yeah.
Try some different ones.
And then again, kind of watch those follower counts on things that, but I think it's kind
of what I was saying.
You're building a foundation.
When these people start finding this account, they're going to see the big history too,
of stuff too.
I'm like, Oh, I love this page.
That's another thing that Instagram will start recommending your page to more people.
Once people are landing on the page and sticking around there, if they see people going, scrolling,
click on a bunch of stuff that kind of gives.
There's Instagram data on like,
who's the type of person to send this to.
So keep going, you're doing good.
I know it's discouraging
when it's just like trickling followers,
but I really do think it's gonna take for you.
You do have something there, there's a good niche there.
Okay, and there was another question
on the affiliate links with Amazon.
Do we have to have some kind of sale
within a certain amount of period of time
in order to stay-
Yeah, it's within, let me see.
I think, what did I say?
180 days, Amazon-
Oh, okay.
Sale, 180 days.
It's quite a bit of time.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, you have 180 days to refer a sale
through your associate links to keep the account active.
So if you get to like 179, yeah.
Yeah, no, you got time, but if you get to that point,
which you won't, you'll make a sale before then,
just like have a friend buy something,
you'll be all right, you know?
Okay, awesome.
Yeah, cool.
All righty, thank you, Stephen, appreciate it.
Yeah, definitely, okay.
Mikayla, let's go, Mikayla,
and then we'll end with Victoria there.
I know we're a tiny bit over the hour,
but I'll wrap up with these two ones here.
All right, Mikayla.
Hey, Stephen, I think you had responded to my question
right before the call, mine's the Rebel Mom Society,
where my views had just-
Oh yeah, it just dropped, right?
Fallen off, yeah.
So-
Yeah, I think it was that follow thing.
Yeah, so I quit say and follow in my posts,
and she kind of switched over
to some of the other suggestions.
And then you suggested on Monday
that I up my posting for a week to like five times a day.
I think they've just gone even further at this point,
like some of mine are getting like zero views.
It's like, yeah, there's definitely something going on.
Yeah, so he said like if they stayed at that point
for another week, so probably just start over.
Yeah, because they drop right here.
See that?
It's like 300 and more.
Well, I don't know if you remember,
but I posted a while back
that I had posted that video of the tennis player.
Oh, the copy.
Yeah, and you think it was a copyright kind of thing.
Well, that's where it kind of,
like I didn't get any, nothing came up about it,
but all of a sudden my views just,
and so I deleted that one
because that's what you suggested was to delete it.
And ever since then, like it just never picks back up.
So I'm kind of,
I'm thinking I'm just gonna like stop messing with the,
I think I'm just gonna try to move on past it.
So I have a product that is getting ready to ship
any day now, hopefully.
We had some issues with some,
the rain in China messed my order up.
So it should be shipped out soon.
And so I was kind of thinking about pivoting.
I have, I'm gonna post that link.
If I can get it to send.
So I have,
it won't send for some reason, it's trying to send it.
I forget that tennis post,
is it still up or did you end up deleting it?
I deleted it.
Okay, yeah.
So I just sent a link to the account
that I had previously created
for my product that I'm creating.
Okay, yeah.
So my product is a Buttercroft is the first,
is my first product.
But kind of like,
I guess my marketing strategy is more so pushing it
as it's something that me and my daughter
are doing together.
So I named it after her.
It's Simply Caroline is the name of my brand.
Yeah.
And I don't really have,
I mean, there's not much on the page yet,
but I was kind of thinking about just flipping over
and just starting to more so like share,
I guess like entrepreneur type things
for moms on that page instead.
I feel like it even gives me more of like an opportunity,
cause I didn't really know where I was going
with the Rebel Mom Society.
I was more so just like trying to drive in followers,
which wasn't happening.
And then even when I got the followers,
I wasn't really sure what I was going to do
as far as like trying to generate
any kind of income with it.
Yeah, yeah.
But so I'm thinking maybe I should just pivot
and start using, but it's not a new account.
So I wasn't sure if like Instagram was still push it.
If I started sharing reels on it
or if I should continue to try to share stuff
on the other one.
Oh yeah.
It doesn't matter about being a new account.
It's really just the algorithm change that happened.
And it's kind of applies to all accounts,
especially smaller accounts, right?
So yeah, you could definitely pivot to here,
shop simply Carolyn.
You know, it'd be like more of a hybrid account.
You know, like I.
on this account the other day, it just popped across my feed is like, um,
like, what do you call it? Um, cause of the algorithm, right?
Like it just popped across my feed and, uh,
and they had one viral video that kind of like went viral. Right. Um,
but I went to their account and I was like, Oh my gosh, is this a Rainmaker?
I didn't think, I didn't know, but let me think. What is it called? Dang it.
Now I'm going to forget what it is. Tiny. No, she's. Oh no,
now I can't remember. Um, it's like this little camera thing. Okay.
It'll come to me. Let me look on my phone. But basically, uh,
her style account, it's like, she's posting about the product,
which her product is, is kind of like, it's like a lot of people actually like,
I feel like I don't know what a buttercrock is and like how it will use it.
So you could definitely have content around that,
but then you can mix in a PVC around entrepreneurship, motherhood,
like kids, like that type of thing. Um, yeah,
I think I would like,
I'm trying to think of like a way we can make it catchier until I get people to
click over when they start seeing the PVC, you know? Um,
yeah.
Our mother entrepreneurs build a legacy for your kids.
I use the, um, AI and the Rainmakers. Yeah. Yeah.
Let me see if I followed this account
following.
It's a flower.
No, I'm not seeing it. I don't know. I would,
I would look at some other Rainmakers that are kind of doing the hybrid style.
Like, you know, I think of, um,
this one, I was bringing this one up,
but like she's kind of doing the hybrid style where there's a lot of PVC in
here. Right. But then every once in a while, all the action, right.
Um, so PVC, PVC, PVC, PVC, PVC, call the action.
And that's like her own original content. She's making this video,
telling her story, you know, and getting engagement. Right.
So I would kind of do something like that, where it's like, you know,
have a cadence of a certain amount of PVC and then you're gonna do some sort of
call to action, you know, sharing your story, being like, Hey, like, um,
I mean, you could also do Rainmaker affiliate stuff on that account. Hey,
do you want to launch a product with your son or daughter?
Yeah. That's where I was kind of thinking of, of leading with it.
Once I actually have, you know, once I'm actually selling the products,
I mean, even like just people in my, you know, local people have asked,
you know, about like what I'm doing and things like that. And I mean, I'm,
I don't have anything to, I'm not selling anything yet.
So I'm not pushing the idea just yet,
but that's where I was kind of thinking about heading it.
But you kind of agree that it would be, so should I, should I wait?
Should I not post? I don't like, so I don't, I feel like when I started,
you know, doing the CTAs and just, you know, trying to get follows,
I kind of got ghosted. So should I wait to share stuff like that?
Or I think you could start posting right now, but I would do it more just to like,
Hey, I want to attract this person to my account. Right. So I might,
I wouldn't be sharing like, she's like, um, this account, she's using memes,
but she's always relating it back to like parenting and moms.
You could definitely do that same kind of thing.
You also could share like entrepreneurial stuff, mindset,
that type of thing, but kind of relating it towards moms, mom entrepreneurs.
You look at our page, repost some of our stuff, like that's totally fine.
And I would just kind of start building this.
And then you kind of just maybe sneaking in your story here and there, you know,
where you're posting about your product here and there, you know, um,
with more specific posts about the product, right. Or, or like, Hey,
I'm about to launch and just sharing the journey with people as they're kind of
going along with you. So yeah, that's kind of what I had been doing.
And it will in the rebel mom society. I, um,
how was I didn't tell anybody that it was me.
I wanted it to just all be random people. Um,
the simply Caroline,
like it already has 45 followers that are just people that were interested in
what I was doing. So I guess maybe their engagement would help me.
Yeah, totally. I say, try it. I like it. I mean,
it's going to promote your brand. I think you could, um, on row mom society.
Of course you can sell a buttercrock here too,
but this makes a little more sense for sure. Um,
I don't know some of those reels to share on my, on my new one maybe.
Yeah. Yeah. Cause I'd see a lot of like kids, moms. You definitely could.
Um, I would try to change them just slightly, right?
Like actually you'll kind of have to, cause it says follow this,
but you probably still have them in Canva. Um,
so just kind of delete that out of there and change the branding a little bit.
Maybe this brand seems more light and Aries and maybe you have a white
background. And so the black background, you know, and, um,
profile picture to a logo, to my logo, instead of our,
our photo.
I think for a hybrid account where it's like kind of a personal, personal hybrid
brand, I think having your face on there is totally fine.
Um, yeah, you could even, I mean, you could even zoom it in a little bit and
it'll just pop a little bit more.
People's eyes are always drawn to faces.
The only reason we do the faces thing is because it's a little more leveraged,
but like, uh, if you're doing a brand then, um, yeah, a hundred percent
have your face in there.
That's totally fine.
So, okay.
All right, well, I'll try that then.
Thank you.
All right.
Let's know how it goes and, um, let's know you do this page too.
I don't know.
Are you thinking you're just going to kind of let it chill for a little bit
and then come back to it or you think you're going to kind of just pivot
completely?
I don't know.
I've been so discouraged every time I post something and it's like
each one gets less and less viewed.
It's definitely like a, like we call this like shadow banning.
There's definitely some sort of like thing happening.
Yeah.
Like I know there's nothing wrong with, you know, cause I mean, I had
really started to get momentum.
So I was like, oh man, I'm finally figuring this thing out.
And then all of a sudden it was like dumpster fire.
Yeah.
Sometimes I wouldn't go delete it.
Yeah.
Don't delete it.
I would just like, let it sit for a little bit.
You might come back to it and ended up using it for something, but sometimes
letting it sit for 30 days will help.
Um, but yeah, I think it had to do with that, that, like you said, that real,
as well as, um, you know, some of the follow us tagging things, I don't know.
You know, it's kinda, sometimes it's also weird stuff.
Like you, you talk about certain topics that Instagram doesn't like you talking
about and this will happen as well, you know, so, uh, yeah, all right.
Um, Victoria, let's end with you here.
Um, and there you go.
Can you hear us in the car there?
Yes, no, I'm good.
I parked finally.
Um, how's San Diego?
Uh, it's, it's going well so far.
I've been inside mostly this week because of this launch we're doing.
So I need to go out and get some sun for sure.
Oh yeah.
It's nice.
Is it hot or is it, is it showing that it's going to rain soon?
I don't know.
I mean, um, everyone here says it's very hot, but we come
from a very, very hot place.
So everyone here is like, it's so hot and it's like 80 degrees.
And we're like, we came from a hundred and something degrees.
So I'm like, this is amazing.
So everyone here is melting now.
That's awesome.
Um, so I was trying to actually, uh, put in my, um, thing, but it's not
sending my Instagram, it's like literally I click the blue button.
It's not
double mom life.
Got it here.
A hundred followers.
Can you see that?
Yes.
Perfect.
Um, so I wanted to, um, I started, cause I heard you saying like to do more
posts per day, and so I started doing the six posts instead of two.
And, um, I mean, I just posted that green, uh, lady, but, um, it's getting
the views, but it's not really getting comments and I'm trying to like write
words where they could comment, but maybe I'm not really thinking right.
Could you like lead me the right way?
Yeah.
Best thought wins my like, okay.
I mean, I think this is really good.
Hey, I need a prank idea for my husband.
I think you're doing the right thing.
Let's see.
She's really mad.
How could you do that?
If you can relate to comments, business time, I already did this one.
I'm just kind of quickly going through them.
And also another thing, like I've seen one of your pages had like all the
reels looking the same, like vertical, um, do like, do I want to be only
looking for vertical videos or is it okay to be kind of like, it's kind of
fine to do whatever, you know, like it really, I mean, your, your page
looks pretty consistent, you know, it really does cause you can read the
texts, you got the blackboard on every single one, you know, um, you know,
I have seen people switch it out.
Like they'll go like black, white, black, white, and kind of like alternate,
you know, it kind of looks kind of cool, but you know, I think we're doing, I
think we're doing something like that on the Rainmaker mastermind one right now.
I see Rainmaker.
You was doing some stuff on this one where, oh, maybe not, but we were just
doing testimonials here forever.
Cause there's, this was like just an overflow page, but we started to kind
of work in like, okay, we have faces, we got memes, but I don't know.
I think like people stress a lot about having like a perfect style or whatever.
I think you're totally fine with that.
As far as like getting people to comment.
I think, I think you're doing good.
I like, uh, I don't know.
I'm I'm like, this can be watched so many times.
I think you're doing the right thing.
Okay.
Wait, this one had a bunch of comments.
13.
What happened on this one?
This can be watched so many times.
She shouldn't have brought, shouldn't have.
No, yeah, this one looks like is going like I get, I'm getting a lot of likes
and comments on it, meaning like likes.
Oh, another thing is, um, I'm trying to, you know how you guys said to reply to
all the comments, like, you know, try to be like engaging and I can't seem to
find it when I'm on my phone and I'm getting a notification that I got a
comment, but I can't find it because it's kind of filled with the likes.
And then I have to kind of go through all my posts and see which one got a comment.
That's honestly how I do.
I just kind of look at recent posts.
I don't go way back and try to find stuff.
I'll look at recent stuff.
I'll just kind of do this, you know, kind of hover of it.
And I look at that right number and like, okay, three comments.
And how about on your phone, on your phone too?
Same thing on the phone.
If you go to like the, um, let me see, let me just make sure I'm saying this accurately.
Go to your reels.
Oh, no.
It doesn't do that on your thing.
You can't hover it over it.
Yeah.
It just shows the, the watch and go, oh, you know what you can do?
Um, I forgot about this.
So you can go, um, shows how often I reply to my comments.
You know, I like batch it.
I'll do, I honestly do it on my computer.
Cause I just like to hover over it like that, but you can do it on your phone.
Forgot about this.
There's a way to sort it.
So when you go to share my screen, share zoom.
Okay.
Let me know if you guys can see that.
Okay.
So once you go to the little heart, right?
In the top, the notification little heart, um, at the top here, see that there,
you can sort it by comments like that.
And, and then, um, you can sort it by people.
You follow comments, professional tags and mentions.
I don't think I have that.
Is that something maybe I can change in settings?
I wonder if that, are you on a professional account?
Do you know, like, I don't know, it doesn't show up for you guys.
Well, I changed a professional dashboard.
So I guess I'm, I have a professional, right?
Account.
Yeah.
I, uh, I'm getting 201 K accounts in like a week, which is, um, 201,000.
Okay.
Accounts watched.
So I'm very happy about that, but I really need to get the followers going and stuff.
So when you click on that heart, it doesn't have that thing at the top, the sorting thing.
Does anyone else have that or no?
It just says ads, um, new and then ads.
And when I click on ads, it just says, choose a post managed post ad.
I wonder if you're in the wrong spot.
Let me think.
Can you share your screen on the heart and it's saying ads.
It's weird.
But do you see like notifications?
They're like people like your posts and you can scroll and see.
Yeah, but I can't scroll too far.
It's just giving me a certain amount that I can scroll and that's it.
And are you able to share your screen so we could take a look?
I don't know if it'll only the host can share in this meeting.
It says, oh, wait, wait, wait, try now.
Try now.
I enabled it.
So screen, I do share screen, right?
Start.
Yeah.
Let's see if it works.
Cause we might be able to like find what's going on there.
Again, Instagram is weird.
Where they'll kind of like enable features for certain people and others.
They won't.
So here I went into my heart and this is all I see.
Okay.
Go back to your home feed for a second.
I just want to see this.
Go back to the home feed.
Okay.
Go click on the heart again.
Yeah.
Okay.
Go down.
I got to move my face out of the way.
Oh, wait, no, that's on your screen.
Can you go down to your profile?
You might have to move me out of the way here.
Oh, you mean my profile?
Yeah.
Go there.
And then click on the, click on the three, three lines on the top.
I just want to look through here.
Um, keep going down inside schedule content.
Click on, um, comments real quick.
Everyone give comments.
Okay.
Huh?
I wonder if I have to look into that.
Cause I know that like, I, I did like,
actually let me look on my other account.
That'll be, that'll be it.
So how the health hacks.
Yeah.
I have it over there too.
And it was weird how I would actually get some comments hidden by Instagram.
It honestly like looks like your app.
Have you updated the Instagram app?
Usually it just auto updates, but it looks a little bit like,
like an older version potentially.
So you might go to the app store and see if like,
there's a update for it potentially.
Um, I look here or no.
If you go, go back to your iPhone home screen and then go to the app store.
or upper right-hand corner and search Instagram.
And again, usually things like this, they just like auto update, but I'm like
wondering if maybe there's an update.
Yeah, it makes sense.
Oh yeah.
I think you're good.
Click on that Instagram right there.
It'll, it usually says update, but yeah, no, you're good.
And if it doesn't say update, then it just is auto updating.
So maybe I should look into some settings of mine.
Maybe poke through the settings, but again, it might just be one of those
things they haven't rolled it out to you yet or something.
It is very weird though.
Um, because I have it on all my accounts, but let me see.
Oh, yeah.
If you have another one, try it.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
So you have it there.
Look at that.
Oh yeah.
That's weird.
That is weird.
Okay.
Well, I'm looking at a professional account.
Let me just look at this one too.
Yeah, that's weird.
Okay.
The only other thing I could think would be like, maybe, um, quit the app like,
and just like turn off your phone, turn it back on and then see if it's there.
It might just be one of those things that they just haven't rolled it out yet.
Um, I'll stop sharing your screen here just so you can see us again, but
yeah, like, that's weird.
I would just use the, use the heart for now and just scroll or just, you might
just have to click on the most recent posts, but that is annoying because
it makes it a lot harder.
Um, and hopefully you get that feature soon.
I don't know.
It could just be in your setting somewhere, like something weird
going on in the settings.
I don't know.
Yeah, that one stumps me because I'm like trying to do all that and I'm just like,
and then when I post all these posts, um, is it like normal to be posting 10 a day?
Or like, it's not weird.
I like, I think like, I would take Duke's advice cause he's
definitely the expert on this.
He posts, I think like a week or so.
He's got 2 million followers, right?
So a lot of those posts are being like seen by a lot of people when we, when
you don't have as many followers, it's not being seen by all your followers.
Um, but it does give you kind of more shots at bat, but the hesitation I have
is like, I don't want you to burn out like 10 posts a day is a lot.
And so if it's getting too intense, then I would just tone it back.
You know, I think, I think two to four, it's kind of a good sweet spot
where it's not super intense.
It's not 10 a day.
It's not 10 a week.
It's sweet spot where it's not super intense.
It's not taking your whole entire day to like post all these things, you know?
So just feel it out.
If you have a lot of time on your hands right now and you could do 10 a day.
Awesome.
But like, I think, I think two to four is kind of like a nice sweet spot, but,
um, sometimes it is nice to break it out, right.
Uh, you know, a rhythm or something like that, but don't overextend yourself,
you know?
Um, yeah,
I felt like with time, I just kind of got used to it and I prepared the day
before or like, I literally just save, save, save, make sure I'm like, um, I'm
finding the right videos, save them and already prep them quickly.
So it's in my draft.
So it was fairly easy.
Um, there was another question, but, um, sorry, uh, you know how some of you guys,
like you were showing some accounts that had the reels, uh, and then all of a
sudden it's like a picture, but it's a full picture or, um, cause I'm like
thinking if I was to create a reel of myself, do I need to also put it into
that Canva with my logo and do a reel of myself or does it have to be like,
or should I do the full screen?
Are you saying like this, like how we have kind of like, we'll have photos,
right?
Like this.
And when you click it, it's kind of like a, like something different.
Is that what you're saying?
Um, no.
Like, so I guess maybe I should praise it.
Is it like Thor guy was showing where he did like kind of the, um, like this style
thing?
Uh, I guess you see how his screen is full on screen, but then when I'm doing my
reels, I'm putting into Canva.
He clearly probably didn't put it into Canva unless he did for the words.
But, um, if I was to put my own face into it, would I have to also put that video
into Canva and have those captions in it?
Or do I just upload it as a normal video?
Oh, okay.
I see.
So if you, it's like original content, like you want it, you're going on and
talking, oh yeah, no, you can just upload that ad right to reels.
Like you could kind of shoot it on your phone or whatever.
It doesn't have to go in Canva.
And then you could just upload it right to your phone.
You know, it's not going to be like offset, like Instagram and they'll be
like, Whoa, something new.
No, no, that's totally fine.
Yeah.
No, they, they like original content, you know what I mean?
So, um, yeah, you could, you could record a video and then put it in a Canva
template like this, if you want it to stay a little sneakier, right?
Like people wouldn't know it's you, right?
Like you could just like do whatever and be like, Oh God, like, listen to this
lady, it's like you, you know, so you could.
Do that, or you could just upload straight up, you know, like, um, like
that one I was showing sunny and Sloan.
She did that recently, right.
Where she kind of just right here, just uploaded a video and this
is just her talking to the camera.
And then she just got a photo for the thumbnail, you know?
So, yeah.
But it's not like it scares the algorithm.
No, no, no.
Yeah.
You're totally good.
Okay.
All right.
Oh, one more question.
Sorry.
It's okay.
This is the last one.
So we're just like, yeah, thank you.
Um, anybody has to go, you can go.
It's okay.
Um, you know how, uh, so if I'm doing the mom page, I wanted to see if I can do
like, um, find some viral videos that are, uh, people are doing of products.
It's like a 1 million views or more, but can I repost their account or their
video and then am I able to also, cause I have influencer account.
Can I lead, uh, lead them to my bio and then say they can find the link in the
bio or is that like not fair or like, what am I supposed to do, or am I supposed
to guide them to her account and let them, cause I don't know, like, how is that?
I think the other thing we've kind of talked about this a little bit, we got
this question during the bootcamp too.
It could be a touchier one.
If you're grabbing, you're, you're reposting someone's video who like
they're like, especially if they're like a full-time affiliate marker,
that's like their business.
You're taking your, their video and then using it to like drive
traffic to your affiliate link.
They'll be like, what the heck?
You're stealing my thing.
You know, they might, even though we know like a, they probably
had this feature on blah, blah, blah.
It's probably a little bit more gray area where they wouldn't like it.
So if you're going to do that, I would find viral videos that have
products in them, but maybe they're not affiliate links, you know like, like
the great example was the one we showed with the power washer, right.
It's a viral video about power washing, but it wasn't an affiliate saying like,
Hey, buy this power washer, but we know that you can buy power washer.
So it's like finding viral videos that have products in them.
So definitely be looking as you're kind of looking for proven by our content.
If there's ever a physical product in it, you know, you could always go, you know,
here's a great product, right.
And like link to it there.
But that way it's not like directly someone who's like an affiliate
marketer, created content, bought it, put all this work into it.
And you're, you're kind of taking that and ripping it for your own thing.
It's more like, Oh, this is just a viral video, but there's a product
in there and we can repurpose it.
So, um, yeah, that's what I would look for.
And there are some products, videos like that, that are just, um, they're going
off, but the person's not really an affiliate, you know, I found one the
other day, like I saved it here.
And I see if I can find it.
Remaker, Remaker affiliate products.
And I always save the affiliate products when I see them where I'm
like, Oh, these would be good ones.
Um, and I want to say it was, Oh, maybe I didn't save it.
Dang.
There's this lady just talking about a thing and she wasn't even
affiliate or anything like that.
You know?
Oh yeah, right here.
Not an ad.
I just liked it.
You know, all moms need this.
Right.
So this video went like crazy viral.
And she's not an affiliate or anything like that.
This would be the type of thing I'd be like, Oh, cool.
Like, great.
I can do an affiliate product for this.
Like, and we actually use this spray.
It works super well.
Yeah.
So, um, yeah, I would look for stuff like this where it's like, there's
a, something happened and that's gone viral, but it's not as like, like
these ones are more like, this is a professional affiliate.
They shot this just for this.
You go to her account.
It's all affiliate products, right?
This type of person probably would not be happy if you did.
But you need to make sure, like when you do copy their content, it
says like you can either remix or do something like that.
That means you're able to, you're able to get their stuff.
How about like, if I grew an account, that's just like kind of giving a
shout out to them and not saying link is in my bio, but then sometimes
creating my own content of products and also adding the, so that's like do that.
You could create an account that's like, you know, I, we see those accounts
like best Amazon finds or something like that, and it's just kind
of curating other people's stuff.
Um, and then, yeah, you would grow audience and then you would promote
your own stuff at some point on there.
I think that'd be totally fine.
It's not like, I think everybody's like best stuff, right?
Yeah, no, I think that'd be fine.
A curation account, you know, especially if that's like kind of the angle and
you're giving credit to those people who drive and drive to them, I think that's
okay.
Um, again, they feel like it's just, that one's a little more of the gray area,
but there are definitely accounts like that, that are just, I mean, um, I was
showing one during the bootcamp when we see, I think it was Amazon affiliate
or like Amazon, Amazon finds.
And you, or you're saying like.
gray area, like why exactly?
Oh, I mean, the only thing I wouldn't probably do is like, uh, take someone's
affiliate video, right.
That they made for their affiliate product and then like posted as your own.
And then say like, drop this link.
I'll give you my link, you know?
Um, but like this account, it's got 400,000 followers and they're kind of
mostly just using like UGC content, which is like, you know, like someone's
just doing some sort of video, right?
Like this could be even videos off of Amazon or, or stuff like that.
It looks like, um, mostly they do like makeup and things like that.
Okay.
So, um, yeah, like they're, they're repurposing a lot of stuff, but it's
not like direct affiliate, uh, marketer kind of accounts that they're doing it
from, this looks like a product video from the company itself, you know what I mean?
So if you find other stuff out there, like, um, like I was showing that, um,
I was showing this, I was showing this on like this Stanley cup one, right?
This is one, like I wouldn't repost her video and like, um, I wouldn't repost her
video, I would either make it myself by ordering the product, it's $5 and make
the same video, um, or you might be able to go find this on Amazon and find, you
know, videos of it that you could actually repurpose something.
It's a little bit more work to do it that way, but it's going to be a little
more acceptable than just like grabbing her video and saying like, Hey,
comment, hydro for my link, you know?
Yeah.
Okay.
Thank you so much.
Really, really appreciate it.
Totally.
All right.
Cool.
Well, keep taking action.
You guys are doing great.
Um, I'm going to hop over, got one other call for tonight and then, um, yeah,
we'll see you'll be with you next week.
I'll be on next week on Thursday.
Actually.
You know what I think next week is the only week that I won't be here, but I'm
going to have some special guest trainer for you guys because we're flying.
I think we're on a flight at that time.
So I'll there'll be someone else coming for me next week.
Um, but we will have a session on same topic.
So, um, stick, stick around.
We'll see you then.
And then of course you check out the dates.
If you came on late to the call, I posted the dates for the truly free
accelerator, those are pinned at the top and I get those in your calendar
and we'll see you there.
All right.
Talk to you guys soon.
Bye.