All right, sorry about that you guys, David was trying to leave the meeting and he ended
the meeting accidentally.
So once again, not perfect, make mistakes, and if a woman's not willing to allow you
to make mistakes, then she's not ready to partner, okay?
And if she calls mistakes or flaws in you toxic or abusive, then once again, not ready
to partner.
Sorry guys, someone's trying to force call into my phone.
Okay, so once again, I didn't tell Mike this, I haven't told this new group of guys this,
but I believe that one of the purposes in us even having a co-ed community, besides
for the reason of partnering and finding your spirit mate, is so that you guys can
represent what good, healthy masculinity looks like as you grow in good, healthy masculinity.
Okay?
And I don't want you to feel pressured by that because the pressure is not on you.
All you have to do is continue to show up.
See, I want to say one thing really quickly.
A lot of people sign up, but they don't show up.
We have all kinds of men that are signed up, but they don't show up.
Show up, and these women, if they can't see it, then they don't know that they can be
it.
And so it's important that they see you, so if you can come to things live, that's great.
If you can only come to one thing live, that's great.
Have your camera on, comment in the chat on these live co-ed sessions, let women get to
know you, let them see you.
All of you will have opportunities to be spotlighted for those of you that are not in relationships
or some of you here, like Carlos, for instance, that are in relationships.
By the way, I match made Carlos, you know, they're doing good.
And here's another thing that you guys need to know.
Whether you get match made by us in this community, you meet someone in this community through
an event or you meet someone outside of the community with the heart healing that you're
getting in this community, what you are receiving here, you're going to need here to continue
in the relationship.
Do not cut and run from this community just because you meet a girl, a woman, because
what you have, the work that you're doing to put yourself out there and to meet people,
you're going to continue to do that work at all the levels of relationship with that woman.
Okay.
Let us support you through that.
Let us help you overcome blind spots.
Let us help you.
If you get triggered in relationship, not cut and run, not call it quits, not say, if
you know, if it's, if it's not going perfectly, then it must not be from God.
Let us help you navigate that and decide whether or not we say here, it's a yes until it's
a no decide whether or not it's a no.
Okay.
So hi to all of you guys, all the new guys.
We do have a love seat this month.
If the November calendar is out, I do need some volunteers.
I need someone to volunteer for the dating game.
Now, unfortunately, Mike, you know, we are so thankful that Mike volunteered.
He got kind of all in told.
I told him that I wanted him to be the bachelor and he agreed, which was great.
But he for some reason, Jessica, who he ended up picking.
And the thing is, I knew he was going to pick her.
I knew he was going to pick her.
When I asked her if she would be one of the contestants for some reason, she and he, neither
one of them can relocate.
And so we're going to make sure that that gets fixed and that doesn't happen again.
But it was a win-win and I've talked to her and it was a win on her side as well.
First of all, she, she got to feel what it's like to be chosen.
She got chosen out of those three bachelorettes and that you guys, she was at a low place
thinking that no one's going to pick her.
And so then she got picked.
So that was powerful for her.
And then once again, Mike just represented such a good, godly, you know, not perfect,
but working on it, man.
And that was just huge healing for her as well.
Because I don't know if, and Jessica wouldn't mind me saying this because it's part of her
testimony publicly, but her former husband, the father of her children is in jail.
Like he went to prison for what he did, whatever that abusive stuff was.
And so talk about someone who needs a good representation of masculinity.
And that was years and years ago.
She stayed single.
She raised her children.
Now she wants, now that her kids are grown up, almost fully grown, just one or two at
the house still, she wants to know what it's like to be in relationship, right?
With someone who she can really partner with.
And she's a phenomenal woman.
So I do need volunteers for Friday.
This Friday, I need one person to volunteer to be the bachelor on the dating game.
And I need two volunteers for spotlights.
And so if you're interested.
If you're interested in that, just a direct message
or email admin at JackieDorman.com.
If not, I'm gonna come looking for some of y'all
and see and who is willing.
For those of you that are just starting hard work
and you're like, I'm not ready for that, that's okay.
We understand and we want you to take your time
and get some clarity before you start running
a hundred miles an hour down a dead end road.
Okay, but we're here for you and we want to,
I mean, you guys, I'm still sifting through
the ladies that have written in about Greg and Abram.
I'm still sifting through all of those women
and also the women that want to meet Mike.
And so there's lots of women.
There's at least seven women to every one man
in this community.
And you're like, what, there's only eight of us.
What do you mean?
There's only 56 women?
No, there's a lot of men that do not show up.
We have a group of men.
We have a group of over a thousand men
that just don't show up, that don't go further,
that don't do their hard work,
that don't show up to things that they're invited to.
And so we really need to have y'all be examples for that.
So that's all that I wanted to say.
And I'll let David go ahead and do the rest
of whatever you guys were working on.
Thanks for being here, guys.
Yeah, you guys, one of the things that just showing up,
if you can do the live things,
it means a lot to the ladies.
I mean, like, cause they, there's a,
I've just, they've always felt encouraged.
And I try to show up as much as I can.
I've been moving, trying to, well, I've been packing,
which has been a lot of work,
but just if you can show up to the live things,
I mean, that, and it gives you an opportunity, right?
So just, I would just encourage you, jump on.
There's a Friday night, Friday morning,
Friday morning prayer call.
Any of it, if you can just show up and represent,
it'd be amazing.
Thank you, Mike, appreciate that.
So guys, yeah, this is just,
I know probably one of the hardest things for men to do
is be vulnerable, you know?
And it's difficult, admittedly, like even the best of us,
like we're, we struggle with, you know, being known
or just, you know, letting our, you know, softer side
and just being vulnerable, you know,
like attending things, just showing up, you know?
Like it's challenging, I get it, right?
But this is the season and time where we're just,
we're just encouraging you.
We're loving you, inviting you into participation,
showing up, like I said at the beginning of the call
and like Jackie was echoing and Mike, you know,
like really being our example tonight, our guinea pig,
that like showing up is half the battle, it really is.
Showing up is half the battle, like being present, you know,
and doing the work that is called the heart work
and some of us are even going like, I don't even know,
like if you've never done the heart work
or anything like it, you're like,
I don't even know what this work is.
Like, I don't even know like how to even do it.
Like, don't worry about it, you know, just be open.
You know, that's the biggest thing
and the biggest thing is your heart posture.
I was just telling someone the other day
that heart posture is everything.
You can have two individuals that say and do the same thing
and because of their heart posture,
one is open towards God, they have like a good nature,
they're like trying to like their heart is towards the Lord
and they're literally doing the same thing
and saying the same thing in imperfection
and then you have another person
whose heart is against the Lord,
they are in opposition to the father
because of hardness of their heart
or because of bitterness or because trauma
that is not allowing them to see their true selves
and they're saying and doing the same things
but the heart posture is the thing
that makes the difference
because God is trying to like reach the one
who is putting their attention towards him.
He can work with that person.
He can lovingly reach out to them.
It's not that he won't or won't want to reach out
to the person whose heart is against him.
It's just that they've hardened their heart against him
in that moment and he can do nothing.
So can God do everything?
No, there are some things God can't do
because of one.
heart posture. It takes a little bit of a bigger breakthrough for that person to
turn around. Like all you have to do is turn around on the path that you are,
just make 180 degrees and turn around. You don't even have to take a step. The
posture is the thing that's important. So I want to champion, number one, the fact
that you're here tonight and you're here in this program, which shows that your
heart posture is like, hey, I want to show up. I want to make a change. I want to see
what God can do through and with me to do the heart work and find this
ultimate relationship that I'm looking for that's in my life. See what the
possibility is. And so I want to champion that, but I also want to
encourage you and invite you in to keep on doing it. Keep on showing up. Do your
heart work. Read the book. Go through the program. Show up with the videos. Do the
questions. Do the inter-seeking. And if you've never done that before, if you're
like, that's just not my thing. I don't really do that. I don't go deep. Do it
anyway. Carlos can attest right now. He's like, look, I never really thought there
was anything to this, but then I finally actually just did it. Because why? Well,
one of the reasons was there was a girl in his life that he had dated for a
little bit, and it ended up not going so well in that they, like, broke up. And
then it was like, wait, wait a minute. I think I, like, had a good thing going
here, but I probably should take my heart work seriously. And then guess what? His
heart posture changed. I don't necessarily know that he really dove
hard into the heart work at the moment, but when his heart posture changed,
because it turned to the Lord, he had this breakthrough moment. And then he's
just, like, trying to describe it like, it wasn't a big deal. It's kind of looked
really weird. He's like, I've never had this before and everything. I'm like,
yeah, because it's a breakthrough. You know, you had a breakthrough. And he's
like, well, maybe it was a breakthrough. And I'm like, no, Carlos, it was a
breakthrough. You're having a breakthrough. And now he's, like, doing his
heart work and his life has changed. And he was a pretty good guy to begin with.
He's a first responder, responsible, good dude, all that kind of stuff. Nothing
wrong with it before that. But he just had this moment where it's like, I needed
this breakthrough. And guess what? He's back in relationship. And some things
are working out, you know, and we love Carlos and we're proud of him. We're
happy for him and we're celebrating him and what's going on. And so, you know,
so just continue to show up. Make sure the heart posture is there. TJ has a
bunch of questions I saw in the chat there. What's your question, TJ? Do you
got to give me one of your questions?
This is my first time coming on. Unfortunately, I've had numerous problems
always getting on the Zoom. The links are always dead. So, like, I tried just
mainly typing in the number and the meeting ID. And I've finally gotten
through. I literally joined like a month ago, but emotionally I was just not
ready yet. But now I'm, you know, going to show up and I just want to know I'm
doing everything I can to do part of the program.
Tom, unfortunately, unfortunately, without going into too much detail and
oversharing, I was in basically a very toxic situation that finally ended in
May. It was basically a romance scam that basically basically covers the
whole deal. So a lot of money was lost in that. So but I'll just leave it at
that. But.
Um. So I hear you. So I'm just wondering what the regular weekly things are that
are going on, like I mean, obviously there's a check in on Mondays for the
guys. I'm a little lost and overwhelmed as far as, you know, how much, you know,
I want to be involved as much as possible, but I want to know what that
really is. You know, there's always a regular regular, you know, Thursday
thing or regular, you know, whatever. And well, the first and foremost, you
have the app. You have the app. Yeah, I have the app. I've I've read that.
And you're in the men's group on the app.
Um, yeah, that was the other question that was also confusing when I first
joined, the app was in a default mode and then it changed once and then it
changed again as far as certain sections. The important thing is, do you see the
men's group in your app? Uh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. So in that, on the events tab,
the events tab should open up the calendar for you and there's links for
those. And I understand the link. Sometimes there are link issues and
that's not that link necessarily. It's just the, um, how your software is
interacting with your device in terms of whether it wants to open up zoom. One
of the things that standard practice that we have is that if you're logged
into zoom already, either on a
see, or a laptop, or even on your phone, it is easier for your device to understand the link
if you're already logged into the Zoom app, either on your phone or on your computer. So
that's one thing that we found to be helpful. Yeah, so technology can always be, you know,
these like difficulties. So we get it, but we're trying to help people as much as we can.
So there's that, but the schedule is on there. Obviously the Monday nights for heart check-in
for men is very critical and very important. And if you're just joining, really your first
month or so is just really going through the heart work course. And that course is in the
group as well. So it just takes you through five weeks of heart work. There's the ebook,
read the ebook, there's videos, there's some homework and some instructions, pages that
cause you to go through questions. So go through that course, do the heart work, and that should
be a majority of your work here the first month or so, is really what's going on with that. And
then there's some corporate prayer times. You have Supernatural Saturday, and then Faith Friday,
on Friday morning there's a prayer time. And then we have some other events that will show up in
your calendar as well. So basic orientation real quick, you know, just a couple minutes just so
you know. Okay, just trying to understand it. Obviously I don't want to go full gung-ho on every
meeting because... Sure, no, of course, yeah, just take it at your own pace. That's the whole point of this.
We're not trying to shove anything down anybody's throat because it can be overwhelming. So we do
definitely, that's a really good point that you're bringing up there, we do definitely encourage
everyone to go at your own pace. And Mike's shaking his head, he's like, yes, please, you know, like
take it at your own pace. And don't be surprised, you know, this is, remember we should do a little
bit of like, you know, just a minute here of just like really quick HeartWork 101, which is like
first week, which is like, look, this is designed to, the HeartWork course itself is designed to last
five weeks just as a way to give you some sort of a benchmark a little bit. But we have people that
have taken five weeks, 10 weeks, you know, a couple months to do their HeartWork. And that's
completely fine because, you know, everybody is different. Everybody has their own unique
experiences and backgrounds and so forth, schedules, time opportunity, all that taken into
consideration. So you do that to the best of your ability on the pace that you want to do. We've
designed it to be very flexible that way. Okay. So if you feel like you're getting overwhelmed,
don't just completely stop. But we do want you to just like slow down and pause and be like, hey,
no pressure, no big hairy, you know, importance to try to get this done in a certain amount of time.
You know, we want you to be able to process because the biggest thing with HeartWork
is that you're processing through things that you're giving God permission to kind of work
through with you on some things to get to a healthy-hearted position, a healthy-hearted
place in your life. We all have trauma and things that we have in past relationships,
past experiences, just, you know, growing up, that kind of thing that just we get in our own way,
our experiences get in the way of our further development. So HeartWork helps us process
that so that we can get into a healthy-hearted place and can step into the kind of relationship
that we're looking for in our love lives. That's the basic purpose of HeartWork in a nutshell.
So hopefully, and I'm saying all that to hopefully give you some confidence and some peace of mind to
go, hey, this is not a race. This is not a, you know, this is not a sprint to the finish line.
This is a process that you're going to go through.
Yeah, I'm not looking at, yeah, I'm not looking at, it's just, it's just a little confusing because
when I, like within the first week, the app changed twice because it seemed like it was in a default
basic mode and then it changed and then it changed again to like a full men's version.
So, yeah, and we're working on that. It's a little clunky sometimes,
but we're working on getting through that. I had the same thing happen. The first time I
tried to join the men's, I thought it was the men's check-in. It was like a women's group
and they were like, you know, this probably isn't the right call for you. And I was like,
well, maybe it is. But yeah, I had to like circle back and check in later on the day
because it was the wrong call for sure. Yeah.
Yeah, and i'll go through and i'll go through too, um, i'm getting back to
work, you know, um tomorrow
And um in our community and i'll just do a double check just to make sure everybody's on the right
Path in the right space where there's where there should be
Hey, man
so
Um anything else guys, um anything else you want to mention we have like about 10 minutes here
Just want to make sure we're connecting. Um
Kenton, um, tell us a little bit like, you know, we kind of introduce yourself a little bit kind of what you do and everything
but um, how'd you hear about the group and um,
What is your thoughts towards? Um,
You know like romantic relationship like what what you're wanting to uh accomplish. Um in this season right now
Well, that's thank you very much. Appreciate that. Um
Great question
How did I learn about this group? I learned it through actually through jack one of jackie's books. He had mentioned it
Okay, I thought it'd be great to be able to uh,
Try something different. I like the idea of the matchmaker. She says yeah, i'm a matchmaker. I thought well that's going to be interesting
With the jewish people or others but here in canada, you don't see a lot of that
But anyway, uh, no it intrigued me enough to look at the information and look into what this group was all about
I'm willing to give it a shot because my history
with women is um
um, I was just um divorced, uh
Just uh five years ago and I I stayed available to my wife for four years
Just in case she decided to come back to up to our fourth anniversary. That's that's when I took my ring off
And started the dating realm and boy that sucks up here in canada
School yeah, I can imagine
Oh my
From two men prior to her and I had no no idea that lord was gonna ambush me on this one
So the last year i've been just pouring into her life unconditional love so that she would have a bar to stand on
she understands what
Unconditional love in a man
Should look like as well as a gentleman. I come from a gentleman's background. So it's a little bit different. Uh,
Teaching and background for myself, but up here you'd be a gentleman the women look at you and said, what do you want?
You can open a door and they say what do you want?
Wow, okay. Okay a little bit different up here. That's for sure. But um, and i've had cases where
the women
you know you dated for a couple of times they give you a text messages and they
Rat and rave all over you and you can't figure out have a clue what you did wrong
So it's uh, it's different up here
So i'm looking for
Sort of a new start in a different way and I think this is going to be a good different way
Because I like how you folks are doing it getting to the heart
uh, because one of my ministries lord is taking me into is the brokenhearted
People in life who've been broken through marriage broken through divorce. Yeah
having to find a
Um a spirit mate that fits into that category of ministry is not going to be an easy one
Yeah
no, you're right and we can sugarcoat it all we want to but it's we're not doing anybody any
service by doing it that way because
You know, we just live in
a day and age in a time
where things are
Uniquely a more traumatic and more difficult
In just a different way than it's ever been in this world
but yet
The relationship between a husband and a wife a man and a wife
men and women is extremely valuable and it's it's
very central to the core
of
The purpose the kingdom purpose that we serve as humans
To come together and be in that really and be in relationship like that. It's extremely valuable still
And it's worth contending for and that's right. It's every woman on earth is worth contending for
Yeah
being a retired pastor and
um
Retired police officer. I got to see the good the bad and the ugly of the life that's out there
Can imagine so just how women are so degraded?
And yet we as men in the kingdom in this kingdom
Have a high calling and I think you fool. Most of you men know that we have a high calling that brings us
To the place where we treat our women with so much love and cherishing them
understanding what that word cherish means.
Yeah.
To the point where they look at you,
and I've had this said to me many times, you're not real.
You're not like any other guys I've ever dated.
You can't be real, there's something wrong with you.
And I say, no, no, I know what the word says.
I understand what it says.
And I know through lots of reading,
lots of my own mistakes, that we have a high calling.
We may say it's difficult, but not really.
When we have our first priority in Christ,
we can have a Christ-centered relationship,
a Christ-centered marriage.
Absolutely.
Does that take work?
Absolutely, a lot of work, a lot of hard work,
but both parties have to participate.
They need to do their part to see it work.
And reading your story, David and Jackie,
that was a story in itself.
I laughed with how you first met.
I just had a laugh together.
I guess the only God could do that.
That's so true.
And we get to tell that story over and over and over again,
but it's always extremely entertaining.
We just told it last night to a small group of friends
that we were connecting with after our meeting.
And it was just fun all over again.
But it is really the way it happened.
And God just used it as a way
to introduce that connection point,
regardless of what was happening emotionally in the moment.
Well, thank you, Kenton, for sharing.
I mean, everything you share is really, really awesome.
And you speak from certainly a position
of experience and wisdom.
And I'm sorry that you had went through
what you went through with your marriage,
but we see this a lot and seen this before,
where, I don't know how long you were married.
How long were you married?
I was married 36 years.
36 years.
And actually just one day cut up
and left in the middle of a counseling session,
our first one.
Yeah, and it's not uncommon.
I've heard that story before.
And in both ways, it's not just women,
but we hear this story a lot.
And, but there's a lot of information to God's
just still saying, it doesn't have to end that way.
Maybe that particular relationship ended,
but it doesn't have to be the end of the story
for your life.
It doesn't have to be the end of the story
for someone else's life, someone else's love life as well.
That's all depends on how you chose your mate
in the first place.
And I chose badly.
So, and that's, and I take full responsibility for that.
I was just, my wife hung on that long.
I mean, yeah.
And I can, I, yeah, yeah.
I don't know you're in a unique situation, but yeah.
I can see that the same time though,
it, there becomes a time after, you know,
a season that's determined by the Lord himself
where it feels like it's just like, you know,
people make their decisions, you know?
And unfortunately, you know,
it took 36 years for that to play out
and it maybe didn't have to.
But again, it's just one of those situations
is what it is and you're facing it.
You're dealing with it.
You're dealing with it in as full of grace as possible.
As that's what I'm hearing from you.
And, and that's mean something.
Certainly means something in the kingdom perspective.
And I think there will be definitely reward for that
as you have tried to do that and deal with that
in grace and love and truth and so forth.
I found out for myself and that this might be something
all the men might go through as well.
I don't know.
I can only speak for myself this time,
but I get attached way too quickly to somebody
and start bonding way too quickly.
And I've got to learn how to not to do that.
Yeah, we do get to do some attachment theory.
You know, there's a lot of discussion around that right now
in terms of just like culturally speaking,
but there's something definitely to say
about the ways we attach and learning about how we attach,
learning the ways that we have proclivities
to attach to people,
how we can bring some healing to that as well.
And so that's something that we get into
later on in the program.
So definitely we can address that as well.
But thanks for sharing that.
That's important to know.
It's important to know.
So guys, I just want to, you know, thank you and encourage you for being here tonight.
Sorry.
It was a little bit crazy and hectic technologically.
I hung up on everybody, so that was me.
And next week we will be, we have added a second time during the day in order to try
to invite some of our international and like those that are like in different time zones
to be able to participate.
So we're trying to make sure that we have some coverage for that as well.
So we'll be adding that next week.
We have two times, I think one's at noon.
I don't know if it's noon Eastern or noon, but I can't, it's on this, it's on the schedule,
noon central.
And of course then this regular time as well.
So we're going to try to add that so that guys can participate.
Some others show up different times.
So whatever time works for you and best for you, then definitely do that.
Amen.
Yeah.
Hold up.
Who's there?
This is Hunter.
Hey, Hunter.
How are you?
Hey, it's okay.
I just re-edited my spirit mate match profile about me.
It's okay if I keep on doing it or someone can check in and help me out with it.
Have a look at it.
You can, you can update that spirit mate match profile as much as you want to.
You should be able to.
And so matter of fact, it's encouraged for you to keep updating that and keep refining
that and making it better and adding some more detail in as much as you can so that
it's continually updated and accurate so that we can make the best matches for you.
And then of course, we'll be having heartwork coaches reach out as well on those profiles
and matches.
And I haven't heard any from coaches yet, but I guess I need to re-edit some more to
get them coming in or...
That's fine right now.
We'll just stop.
I mean, we're at this point, we're still doing the intake and profiling process, so we're
not really at the stage yet.
So let me update you guys, for those of you that are new about spirit mate match.
So right now we are at our intake phase.
I think we have about 140 guys and we have about 500 women in the dating base, in the
database on spirit mate match.
And so we definitely want more guys to sign up.
So if you have not done that, even if you're in your heartwork phase and you're not ready
to meet anyone, go ahead and fill out your spirit mate match profile anyway.
You can find that link in the resources part of the app.
So go to your resource tab and look, and you'll be able to find it there.
And then also, fill it out very thoroughly.
Okay.
Remember, I'm the only person that sees it.
Me and my matchmakers are the only ones that see it right now.
Not the women.
They're not going to be just like a dating app scrolling through the profiles.
Not right now.
And we're using these to curate in-person events right now during the intake phase.
We're using it to curate events and we're using it to do some online events.
So in-person and online, and also these dating games and different things, just until we
get enough men filling out their profiles.
And then we have a couple of plans.
And one of those plans is to possibly allow you to look through your matches on your own
and be able to contact those people via DMs or direct messaging through the spirit mate
match app.
Okay.
We want to get away from technology as much as possible with matchmaking.
Community-based matchmaking is what we want to do.
You have a much better chance of really liking someone if you see them interacting in community,
which is why we're going to have more and more of those live events a month.
We have two this month in November and one love seat with Spotlight.
So we have three opportunities.
Basically three weeks of this month, once a week, we have an opportunity for you to
meet all kinds of people in real time.
Okay.
And so please look at your calendar and make sure that you come to that live if you can.
All right.
David, did you want to say anything else?
I have a question.
It's John here.
Okay.
Go ahead, John.
The local groups, I saw there's a couple.
I'm kind of like in between, if it's Redding, Sacramento, I'm kind of in between Sacramento
and San Francisco.
We have a San Francisco one now.
We have a San Francisco and then we have a Redding, Sacramento.
Yeah.
Right.
So I'm kind of in the middle and I didn't hear anything from the San Francisco one,
but I heard from like the Redding, Sacramento one and they're like, why don't you try the
San Francisco one?
But I'm like an hour from each, so I'm in the middle.
Okay.
Well, here's the good news.
The good news is that those obviously are kind of hubs, but there are people that are
in all of those groups that live like you all in between those cities.
Right.
And so there's smaller groups of people that get together and do things.
Now, what city are you in?
I'm in Brentwood.
Okay.
So we definitely do have people that,
women that are, you know, in that area as well.
And so-
Well, Brentwood, Northern California, not Southern.
Okay.
But once again, those people are all gonna join
the groups nearest to them.
So just because it has that city name on it,
it doesn't mean that everyone in that group
lives in those cities.
They all live around about those cities just like you.
Now, are those groups open now?
Are they closed?
Because you got to get permission to get in.
I haven't got any feedback yet to join the group.
I put in the request.
Okay.
Yeah.
The moderators, if you put the request in over the weekend,
is that what you did?
No, it's been about two weeks or a week and a half.
Oh, really?
Which group?
Well, like I said, I did the Reading, Sacramento.
I did hear back from them.
They said, why don't you try San Francisco?
And I did San Francisco and I answered Crickets.
Okay.
So the Reading group didn't allow you to come into it?
Well, it did not allow.
The person said, well, you're closer to San Francisco
or something like that.
Okay.
All right, whatever.
I'll say something to the moderators of both those groups.
You should be able to join both those groups.
And guys, just rule of thumb if you're new.
Try to join a single city
that's within a four-hour drive of you
if there isn't one in your city
so that there is a possibility
that there are people in that group
that are local to you around where you live.
And you should be able to.
And if you live two hours from one of the single cities
and three hours from the other, you can join both of them.
We just don't want people joining single cities
that are not anywhere near them, like across the country.
But if you're gonna be visiting a city
and you wanna see who in the community lives in that city,
then you can also join a single city
if you're like taking a trip,
you're gonna go to a city because of a work event
or something else, you also can join that group
to see who you might be able to meet up with
when you're in town, okay?
And I'll look into that, John.
Never mind.
Thank you, appreciate it.
All right.
So this is Andy right here.
So since we're talking about single cities,
I'm in like the Detroit, Michigan area.
There's not really any groups that are close to me.
I guess the closest would be the Columbus, Ohio,
but that's like really far from me.
Yeah, but there's a lot of people in the Columbus group
that actually live in Cleveland and even in Detroit.
So once again, Detroit is less than a four hour drive
from Columbus, Ohio.
I know because I used to live in Columbus
and I've driven to Detroit.
And so that would be your single city, join it.
And there's tons of people in that group
that live in Cleveland, in Toledo, in Detroit,
in other areas of Michigan
because that is the nearest single city.
You guys, single cities get formed
when someone wants to be the moderator of that place
and there's enough people living in that region
where another one would pop up.
So that's how all 25 of these single cities came to be.
And the more and more people
that start to be part of our community
in those regions and areas,
the more single cities will pop up.
So Detroit may have one before too long.
So anyway, join the one that's nearest to you.
Don't just assume, which is what I just said to John,
don't just assume because it is called Columbus single city
that the people there only live in Columbus
because once again, everyone within a four hour range
of there, or if they're not anywhere near a single city
and that's the nearest one to them,
maybe they live eight hours away,
that is a single city that they're gonna join.
And the one that they have the most likely chance
of actually getting together in person
or coming to an in-person event.
And so that would be your single cities
to go ahead and join it.
There's lots and lots of amazing women
in the Columbus, Ohio single city
from areas that are within just an hour,
maybe less than that to you, John.
I mean, Randy, wait, no.
Who was that?
Randy.
Andy.
All right, that's cool.
Sorry.
Okay.
So everyone clear on the single city?
Yeah, one more thing.
How would that work though?
Like what are the meetings like
and like how long do you stay?
Cause like if you were gonna drive for like four hours,
like how does that even work?
Like with the gatherings and all that?
Well, first of all,
you don't have to necessarily drive four hours
because it could be a lot closer to you
and it works all different types of ways
because they.
there's all kinds of events that single cities do.
You know, there may be event in your area,
you won't know until you join the single city
and look at the calendar in there
and see what they have going on.
And you might just meet someone in there
that in the page itself that you wanna get to know
and then you guys can meet halfway.
You know, both of you drive an hour and a half,
have lunch somewhere and on a Saturday and drive home.
So once again, guys, if you're not willing
to do long distance, even within a two hour drive,
three hour drive to date someone who lives that far away,
that's fine.
You don't have to,
if you want someone who lives in your neighborhood,
but we may not be able to offer you that,
you may not meet them within our community,
but we will help you have the skills and the tools
that you need relationally,
even if you meet someone who lives
in your own neighborhood, okay?
So there's lots of important things to be had here
besides just, can you introduce me to a girl
that lives five mile radius from me?
I know everyone wants that low hanging fruit guys,
I get it.
You know, you can't get any closer
than David and I's love story.
I was literally his next door neighbor.
All right.
But that's not gonna happen for everybody.
So let's be in it to win it, okay?
Okay.
Okay, what is four hours investment
for a chance at finding your spirit mate?
I mean, like literally any of you guys
would try four hours in the, you know,
so just encouragement, right?
Another thing I was gonna ask.
Yeah, go ahead.
Me?
Yeah, whoever has a question, go ahead.
I do.
Well, I'm only living in the city area,
but I don't know if I can join the Columbus area
because I was born and raised in Ohio
and I still have family living out there.
It's not so much I'm close to Columbus or Ohio,
I'm like twice, compared to four,
I'm twice that far away,
but I still have connections and family out there.
For sure, and Hunter brings up a really good point.
And I think I kind of made that point,
but I'm gonna make it again.
And that is, if you could see yourself relocating
to an area because you're from there,
or you have family there, your parents still live there,
or, you know, whatever reason,
you've always wanted to live there,
then, you know, be open to that.
Be open to meeting someone in that place or that area,
especially if it's someplace where you have family
and, you know, it wouldn't be a stretch
for you to move there.
Especially when I got, I still got family out there,
but okay, that's a good, thank you, Jackie.
That's all I need to know.
And I was just gonna hope to talk about the,
I'll share a breakthrough next week that I had.
Okay, well, we're glad that you had a breakthrough, Hunter.
That's exciting.
And you should also share that in your men's group
by making a post about it as well.
So you guys hype each other up.
Definitely be sharing, you know,
your breakthroughs, your wins.
If you need prayer for anything,
make sure you're posting that in your group as well.
The women have, they're a lot better
at supporting one another.
I know women are a lot more community minded
or communal than men are, but, you know,
we're trying to change that
because God created you for a relationship,
not just with women, but also with each other.
And so definitely, you know, support one another
and we appreciate you guys.
I need guys for Friday.
Don't forget about that.
I will be posting in your men's chat on Facebook.
So if you are in the,
you're not in the men's Facebook group as well,
it's just kind of a bonus group,
but it has a lot better chat features.
If you're not in there,
then let us know so we can add you to that group as well.
Okay?
Which Facebook group you dropped out for a second?
Yeah, what is that?
It's just the 1822 Men's Community Group.
Okay, I'm in that, yeah.
Okay, yeah.
And then there's a chat.
So if you look on the toolbar, there's the word chat.
If you click that, there's an ongoing chat going on there.
So if you're ever lost, you don't know,
is there something going on tonight?
The link's not working.
You need to show up and say something in that chat
because someone will answer you.
Whether it's one of our team members or each other.
Okay, I think anyone else have any other questions?
I had a question about the cities.
I think the closest one is Washington, DC.
I mean, like Allentown, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, correct?
Where are you located?
Allentown, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.
It's just basically like an hour and a half
north of Philadelphia.
Okay, all right.
So yeah, you're kind of far from DC and DC just popped up.
Yeah, that would be your closest one right now
because DC is brand new, but DC is popping.
And there's a lot of.
people that live in different places like Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, and
different areas that are in that DC group.
So, and in the New York group.
So if I were you, I would join, even though it's more for more than four
hours, I would join New York and DC.
Okay.
Because before, before, before DC existed, there was only New York.
So New York has a crazy range of people in it that live in Pennsylvania
that live in Maryland that, you know, just, I think you get what I'm saying.
You're talking, you're talking New York city, right?
Okay.
That's what it's called.
But, but once again, because there was no other single city in that
area, a lot of people joined, even people that live in Pennsylvania.
Okay.
Thank you for clarifying.
I appreciate it.
So those two groups, you're going to find people that are more local
to you, DC and New York city.
All right.
So, um, once again, wide variety, wide range of locations for
people in those two groups.
Okay.
Thank you.
How far are you away from Harrisburg?
Uh, that's probably like an hour and 10 minutes.
Yeah.
We have a quite a, we have quite a few people in that area, so we
might end up with a Harrisburg.
We might end up with a Harrisburg single city real soon.
Okay.
You're saying what basically the people in Harrisburg are going to DC are
tagged at DC now, basically though, right?
They're just, they're just in those, they're just in those pages.
They're not necessarily going to events in those cities, but it
doesn't mean it doesn't mean that the events only happen in those cities.
That's what I'm trying to
I'm just saying rather than being New York city, they're probably
the DC instead of New York city.
That's what that's all asking.
Yeah.
I am not saying that are necessarily always going to events there.
Yeah.
No, but, but just so you know, DC is brand new.
And so that, that group just got created.
So I would definitely join the New York city group to, to
find people in your area as well.
Okay.
Thank you.
Any other questions, guys?
Anybody guys are clear.
And, and I know Hunter's done with the hard work.
Who are you?
All of you still doing the hard work.
All you new guys are in there.
Okay.
So John, did you just, did you, is that just volunteered for the
left seat, John, or was that
was it?
Well, Hey, what the hell?
Volunteer too.
All right.
So there you go.
I just started my work, but I'm not ready yet.
Okay.
Well, I will jump into, I'll jump into the chat and solidify
some of those volunteers.
And so definitely be checking that chat out this week and, and we'll,
and we'll get it, we'll get it all organized and ready to go.
Okay.
All right.
Okay, guys.
Thanks so much.
Have a great night.
Bye-bye.