Um, all right.
And this heart check in December 2nd, 2024, we hit record and we're
talking about food right now.
So if you're just joining us, uh, get with it.
We've already talked about the Buckeyes.
We're not talking about that.
We're not talking about the team up north at all.
I don't even know if I even want to watch the rest of the season because it's just,
it's just all false.
It doesn't matter whether they even go, you know, they're going to definitely
get in the playoffs and uh, which I would imagine, but then it's like, I mean, for
what record you, you lost two games and then you do well in that and then maybe
even pull out a national championship.
And then you have a, like two games that you lost.
I mean, what kind of season is that?
And they don't even get to play in your own Nash or, uh, your
own conference championship.
It's just, I don't know.
It's just, I'm, I'm not done with it.
I'm over it.
Ah, why did I even bring this up tonight?
I shouldn't even brought it up.
You notice I'm not even wearing, I'm not even wearing anything that resembled.
So, uh, anyway, so food, food, food.
I have decided that I'm going to go no sugar.
So, I mean, like I'm, if things have sugar in them, like, you know,
they're like, it's very difficult to find things with like zero sugar in it.
So I'm not going to like do zero sugar, but what I'm saying is no added sugar,
no sugary foods, no foods that like sugar is the main substance, like cake
and doughnuts and pancakes, and it's going to say to shoot for a no refined
sugars and you're pretty well set.
Yeah.
I'm shooting for that.
So I did really good today.
Very clean, very good.
And, um, it's all good.
So anybody else doing a health journey right now?
Just curious, actually.
Are you, I am.
I always have my diet.
I've been doing it for years now.
DJ, I was just curious.
What are you, what are you doing?
What is it?
I've been off the no sugar.
I've been avoiding case cookies, doughnuts, pies, uh, candy bars.
I've slipped a little bit lately on the candy bars, but still it's
way less than it used to be.
So, yeah, that's, I mean, that is like, for some of you guys that are like
really good and disciplined and all that kind of stuff that you'd like.
Why is that a big deal?
It's a big deal.
Yeah.
I mean, just like the cakes and stuff.
Like, I can't, I mean, it's just hard.
You need to get used to it.
You want to reward yourself?
You're like, oh, I've had a good day.
I get to go get a little treat.
And I was like, nah, I can't do it anymore.
So, yeah.
So if I could, um, I was watching a video the other day, um, like
disappear for six months and like change your life type thing, you know,
like, like just go under, underground for six months and literally just like
revolutionize your business, your life, your whole thing like that.
So, so I'm getting like all amped up on just like extreme thoughts
and things like that right now.
So this is why this is what led me to this.
Like, that's it.
I'm not doing sugar anymore.
So I'm trying to be accountable to you guys.
So you hold me accountable.
Um, I will give you permission to like slap me in the face and, and
call me up and say, what are you doing?
And, uh, so that's what, this is what I'm going for.
I'm trying to, trying to see what's going to happen the next 30, 45 days.
I'm just curious to, I'm really curious to see what's, how my life's
going to change through this process.
So it's amazing how many people will, or how many men, can you hear me?
Yeah.
Okay.
It's amazing how many people or men, especially, uh, do not consider their
health because, you know, the old saying is, I don't know what I'm saying or not,
but anyway, I've always believed that.
Why would I want to cheat my wife or my future wife on the years that she could
spend with me if I die before she does?
I mean, that makes no sense at all.
Especially if I did look after myself.
So that's why I've always looked out for myself to make sure that
I was taught for him at all times.
Well, and, and we even, you know, we, we touched on this last week, but, you
know, we find that that's, you know, one of the biggest things in our community
that women, um, are concerned about with men, period.
It doesn't really matter whether you're older, whatever older is, you
know, however you define that.
Um, but, um, that is one of the main top concerns that women have.
Uh,
as far as finding their spirit mate.
Is this gonna be a man that at some point
I'm gonna have to take care of?
You know, because he's not taking care of himself.
You know, women already have their plans already made,
like as in, you know, they're gonna change
the way you dress, they're gonna change this about you.
I mean, they're already thinking of all the things
that they're gonna like, like, oh, I'm gonna change my man.
I'm gonna make him into what I want.
You know, da-da-da-da-da-da, all this kind of stuff.
Women do that, they just do that.
That's why he looks so good, David.
They have all that stuff.
But that's just another layer of worry and concern
that they have with regard to the man
that's gonna be in their life is,
am I gonna have to take care of this man at some point
in his health?
And that's scary to them.
And it's true, so I love how you brought that up
because it is true, it's just like, it is unfair
if you just completely do not take care of yourself.
You know, for your spouse, men and women, you know,
women do the same thing.
True.
You gotta begin with the end in mind.
Yeah.
I mean, too often we're like, okay, I'm just,
you know, I'm doing great.
You're like, okay, I still got it, you know?
But like, you know, but what, you know,
people are like, I don't believe in diets,
I believe in lifestyle changes, right?
Because diets come and go and they're fatty,
like there's a fad, right?
But what one or two things can you do to change your life?
Like the power of 100 days, you know?
So I started working out and then I had to move,
so I've been like moving.
Yeah, I hate that.
100 pound totes, so I don't know in the next 100 days.
Yeah.
So David, just, sorry, just to confirm.
So you said you were interested in some accountability.
What's the specific thing?
Do you want us to ask if you've had refined sugars
or what would be the specificity there?
Yeah, I guess I'm, what I, refined sugar, I guess,
is that's what David was suggesting.
My thought was that like no added sugar,
like I'm not adding, you know,
anything to whatever I'm eating.
Trying not to, I'm not eating things with sugar
as its primary ingredient, you know?
Oh, there goes the special coffees.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't do the special.
I mean, coffee, I do a little bit of like whole milk.
And so I'm like, I'm not, I'm very simple on my coffees.
I'm not, I don't like oversweet my coffee.
That's not a big deal to me.
But, and I don't even drink a full,
probably coffee every day.
I mean, like I get a coffee
and I drink half of it type thing, you know?
And then I might get one later on,
maybe if it's like social, doing something social
where I'm like, you know, like out.
And it's like, oh, this is go to the coffee shop
and stuff, whatever.
So that's kind of like my routine with coffee.
But my biggest thing is just like cakes
and snack cakes and donuts.
And just, I mean, I love it.
And I'm just sick and tired of just being sick and tired.
And so it's good.
So, so I'm trying, I'm trying not to get like super radical
like where I'm trying to like, really like,
like, like harm, like not harm myself,
but you know what I mean?
Like, it's so extreme that I can't do it
because I've tried that before as well.
And it's just, it's so hard.
So I'm just really just kind of like,
kind of one rule, no, like added sugar, no sugar.
Yeah.
I think it's a lot easier if you're forced into doing it
like I am, because I have a digestive condition.
And if I eat the wrong thing, I feel the consequences.
So therefore it's easier for me.
I, you know, I don't want to get to that point actually,
though, that's the thing too.
I mean, not, notwithstanding somebody's actual
unique condition, but that's, that's where I,
where I'm trying to get away from getting to the point
where I'm forced to, because of this, you know,
I can't move, I can't, you know, whatever.
And the other thing is this, my, I mean, I really,
I mean, speaking of like harmony in my relationship,
it's really weird.
You don't, you don't think like, oh, why is eating,
you know, what you eat?
Like, oh my gosh, I'm just trying to imagine like
what changes would happen in my life
if I had some discipline in this area.
And it's not just about like looks or weight or like health,
but I mean, it goes even beyond that.
What other ways can I be more disciplined in the,
what I do in worth, my productivity,
all that kind of stuff to where, you know, you know,
This is a big thing that I think will enhance
not only my overall life, but my relationships
with my wife, relationship with my kids, everything.
David, have you ever heard of Exodus 90?
Not Exodus 90, no.
It's a really cool thing.
Exodus 90 is like a super involved men's challenge.
In order to even join it, you have to get a brothership
together with guys doing it.
You do cold showers, you do fasting.
It's basically getting you back to the old days
of Christianity when people did rigorous fasting
and penances and stuff like that.
It basically cuts a lot of stuff out of life
so then you can focus on prayer more.
I found it's a really beautiful and powerful thing.
It's a way that men can even break addictions,
and especially if people have a porn addiction.
It's really good.
There's accountability, you have to pray this much a day,
you have to follow these disciplines,
and it's for 90 days.
That's why it's called Exodus 90,
and you read through the book of Exodus.
It's a really powerful thing.
How many of you have been through
life transformation seasons?
Intentionally?
I'm in one right now.
Who's that?
David.
What's up, David?
David.
It's like Christmas morning.
I know how that sounds,
but it's basically like the second you start it,
it feels like literally anything's possible,
and the world is a great and wonderful place.
And you just feel great to be alive doing it.
Whether you fail or whether you succeed,
it's just like, oh, this is gonna be fun.
It's gonna be horrible, but it's gonna be fun.
It's a new experience, it's a new me type of thing.
However you wanna take it.
I'm currently on day 53 of 75 hard,
doing my second workout, walking backward for recovery.
My first workout of the day is a Murph.
The mile run, 100 pull-ups, 200 push-ups, 300 squats,
another mile run with 20 pound pack.
I just upped it this week to 25 pounds.
And I'm feeling it.
My diet right now is just no refined sugar,
and I only eat for three hours a day.
And especially with all the Thanksgiving leftovers,
I can't wait to be done with that.
I just feel sick from it.
Yeah.
But no, it's incredibly transformative.
I think like one of the,
I mean, obviously there's like a physical transformation,
but for what happens internally,
just my mind and my spirit,
the time I've spent actually focusing on God
and focusing on my heart work has increased drastically.
Yeah, I think there's, I think it's an opportunity to,
really to like give yourself a chance to really focus.
Yeah.
And I think that's gonna be like really, really crucial
in these coming next season or two,
especially for believers, I think.
To be really like, to really focused,
really have clarity, really advance.
And I think the one thing that motivates me,
like David was saying, as far as making it curious,
like getting curious about it,
rather than like making it feel like it's a put on,
like, oh, I have to do this.
And I'm gonna like, I'm not the guy
that like gets excited about hard things.
I just do not.
I just like, if it's challenging,
like I'm just like, well, I'm just, nah, I'm good.
And so I have to get curious about it.
I have to get like a curiosity, like what's gonna happen?
Like be excited about new things.
Like I've never done this, I've never been this way before
or never been down this road or down this path before.
So what's that gonna be like?
I think, so the curiosity for me
is probably more motivating than like the suck.
Some people are just like motivated by it.
Oh, suck, I love it, I'm gonna do it.
You know, like, no, I'm just like, I can't do that.
And so what are some other transformation moments
of you guys?
Mike, well, I mean, I just look at the end game like I have a goal and I'm giving this
up to get to where I want to be, you know, like, you know, and like, it's OK, I want
to I'm going to be 120.
I told the Lord the enemy stole the first 40 years of my life.
I want to act on the back end with the spirit of Caleb.
Right.
Like and I you know, but I'm going to do that.
So to do that, I need to have muscle mass.
I need to take care of myself.
Right.
So I encourage you in this journey, like giving up the sugar, go high protein, right?
Because that satiates the cravings for, you know, like the high glucose spikes.
It's long longevity.
You know, so I do a lot of protein and I don't I'm not legalistic about it.
But I and if I if I fall down, I get up and I hit the reset button and I go again.
I mean, and then pretty soon, 21 days, you have new neural pathways.
Your cravings are starting again.
So what?
It's good.
Yeah.
So.
I love it.
I just but I have to have a goal.
You know, I'm going to be there to see my grandkids.
I'm going to be there.
You know, I'm going to be there.
I'm going to I'm going to be there to support my bride, my future bride in the end.
You know, I mean, I'm going to outlive her because that's my goal.
Right.
And and obviously I put it I mean, it sounds crazy, but it's like I mean it.
You know, I mean, like and so.
You can say a lot of things, but what are you doing to get there?
Yeah, yeah.
That's good.
Thomas, you said super intense.
What was the super intense part?
Oh, the exodus, not the nation or when someone brought up exodus 90.
Oh, oh, I see.
Yeah, I got it.
What other transformation moments in seasons have you guys been through?
I'm just curious because somebody else, a couple other people raised their hands
and they did.
I'm curious, any testimonies of like life, your your life's situation, not changing,
but not getting bogged down in it like things that work aren't changing.
You know, but you've pushed through it and still had a breakthrough
without like just like dumping life and starting over.
You so I'm I was unclear, Chris, on like, what are you telling us that you've done this?
Because I was asking for people that did like.
I'm curious.
Like, does it does that resonate with does what I just said resonate with anyone?
Because that's what I'm kind of like, like, OK, like I can't I'm not I'm not called to
just dump everything.
And like, but it's I feel like just bogged down.
So it's, you know, if things are going, but I was just like triggering,
like anyone have any stories that relate to that?
OK.
Yeah, I mean, like who who like who feels either now or in the past like an overwhelm?
Anybody with an overwhelm?
What do you mean by overwhelmed?
Like I'm overwhelmed right now, like too much going on.
There's a lot of work.
There's a lot of my.
Oh, yeah.
I'm like, I just I can't get to the end of my list.
Yada, yada, yada.
Yeah.
It's baby steps.
Yeah, like take little steps.
You know, that's the only way to get out of a hole is you start taking little steps
and building on that.
And if it doesn't build that day, then you do it again the next day to see how that goes.
And pretty soon you're on the top of it and you're walking out of the hole you're in
and you're in a new place in life.
I mean, dude, I was in the deepest.
It's it is it is a little bit of kind of like you like keep on keep going and so forth.
There comes a point, though, where I feel like you do have to have a re-evaluative part,
like like prior, like a re-priority, re-prioritization.
We just like Jackie and I right now, we we've now entered into a season and it's difficult
during the holidays because there's so many obligations.
You feel like you have to do this and you have to see these people and you have to go
here and do all this stuff.
And but we're like we're like putting out all the distractions.
We find ourselves getting constantly distracted.
I don't mean with just like media or like just, you know, the common personal distractions.
But I mean, just like things like a guy shows up my property today
and wants to do work.
And I'm like, I don't have any work for you.
And I feel he's done work for me before.
And he's like he needs work, you know, and I'm like, I feel for you.
And I want to give you something to work on.
But I don't I have to stop what I'm doing in order to.
Find something for you to like, you know, that's a distraction.
Here's some half an hour of my day
where I have to deal with this guy who just shows up on my property type thing.
And, you know, I was able to actually get some something done
and it actually didn't take that long.
But just things like that, it's like all the time.
It's like every day is just like I got up today thinking I was going to be doing this.
And then five other things came by a phone call,
you know, some sort of like, you know, just out of the blue.
A tire doesn't work on the car.
Mike, I dealt with a tire issue last week on both of my cars.
It's like, why both? Why two cars?
Why does it have to even be an issue to begin with?
And now it's just one but two cars like I don't have time for this.
I do not have like like this.
These are distractions after distraction of distraction.
And sometimes sometimes they can be a spiritual distraction.
If you guys if you're if you know that the Lord is leading you into a new season.
Oh, the enemy also knows that.
And in doing so, he's trying to distract you, keep you busy
away from what the Lord wants you to do and especially your personal walk with him.
That's the biggest thing we most men lose is they're in marriage or other.
Otherwise, they get so busy that they forget
that the Lord wants that relationship first and foremost.
And then from that place, as many, many prayer warriors have said in the past,
they spent an extra two hours because they know they got an extra busy day.
But it all gets done
in a matter that it's the distractions are taken out.
I don't know what's going on with guys like yours and Jackie's right now
for ministry wise. That's a possibility.
I don't I don't I don't understand the last thing you just said there.
Or just saying I don't know what you and Jackie are going through in the sense of
your ministries right now, what's going on with them,
but the Lord is taking you higher place.
December is always a bad time anyway, because it is a super distraction time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, yeah, no, we're in and we're definitely are like thinking ahead
to next year, thinking of, you know,
all of the things that we're wanting to accomplish.
And so we're taking the steps like we've minimized
some of the regular distractions over the holiday season intentionally.
So I think we're we're doing pretty good as far as like trying to minimize.
Those distractions, but it's just becoming like like we're just funny
because, you know, we were just saying to each other today about,
OK, you know, we're in a season right now where we're no distractions,
you know, like we're minimizing distractions.
It's like got to learn to say no, you know.
And for Jackie, it was, you know, this cat that showed up on our porch.
And she's like, I'm like, it's just a cat.
We live out in the country.
I mean, like it goes away.
Well, I've got to do something about it.
I said, it's a cat.
Nope, can't let it go.
And I'm like, and so some people came and took the cat.
But we were dealing with that cat for like six weeks
because it kept showing up and.
There was somebody that was living was living with us for a moment
and actually initially fed the cat and then left.
I'm like, why did you feed the cat and then leave our product?
What what are you doing?
Why did you do that?
And Jackie's the kind of person that she cannot like.
She cannot just walk away from, you know, defenseless.
Things that are living organisms, you know.
Don't kill it.
Put it outside.
I mean, it's a spider, like whatever.
I think that these are real things.
And I don't want to do their grief.
And I don't want to I don't want to get into an argument
just because I don't have any compassion for a cat.
David, do you leave them?
Do you leave moments of the day in which.
Nothing happens.
So that those odd things that come into your life, you could do with them.
No, I don't.
I'm constantly filled with just stuff that never gets done.
And do you keep a calendar?
It's getting better because I've accomplished some things.
I've cleared some things off my plate.
So, I mean, I'm in a little bit better spot, but a month or two ago,
it was just like full court press and it was just crazy.
Yeah, I've always helped my phone when I got a calendar in front of me,
like my phone calendar.
I know exactly how many hours I'm going to spend on a particular thing.
And that's.
over. It's over. And I move on. If something comes in
distraction, which one I've learned how to say no. I says
you're you're it's a it's a phone call. Say listen, I'm just
in the middle of something here. I've got a spot I call you about
two hours down the road, a vehicle that leave those empty
spots in my calendar so I can do just that. So they know that
that I'm not going to put my concentration into that one.
Because they are distractions from what what are you're trying
to get accomplished that they can become extremely
frustrating, especially over time, and you start losing
control of your time eventually. Yeah, absolutely.
One of the things that's kind of resonated in my heart, and I'll
verbalize this quickly as a reminder to myself, I think
we're a little bit familiar in the church with like a spirit of
poverty, where there's just something that happens
spiritually in people's finances, and they can never
get ahead. And it, it just sort of wears on them. And one of
the things I grew up my dad was in full time. Well, he was in
full time ministry the whole time I grew up. So we grew up
with not a lot of money. But everyone in our family, we've
never walked in that type of spirit of poverty, there's
always more than enough. But where we do walk in poverty is
our time. And I've seen it, you know, it's probably more
prevalent among me than some of my siblings. But, you know,
getting back to that two hours a day in prayer, because there's
so much to do today. It's, you know, that that tide, if you
will, so I'm preaching to myself, like, if if life is
just, you know, if a project on the work on the schedule work
that was probably supposed to take like six hours takes two
and a half days. You know, working in parallel with someone
else, fully focused, you kind of have to ask yourself, Okay, like
God, is there something you're saying to me as far as like how
you want to multiply my time? And just bring supernatural
multiplication.
Prayer does work, there's no doubt about it, which is what
the enemy wants to keep us away from it.
Yeah, that's true. This is, this is amazing. This is something I
haven't heard in a while, like Kent, both Kenton and Mike have
this goal of living to 120 years. It's incredible. And
that's, that's honorable. And it's scriptural, of course, we
kind of know that. But there's not too many people that really
like have that as a actual goal. And I think that's pretty
fascinating.
Well, we up in Canada have the fortunate pleasures of able to
hunt our own food. So I love moose and elk. It's pure, pure
meat. So yeah, it's things like that, eating well, doing a lot
of exercises. I mean, I still haven't found somebody who can
out walk me or out hunt me. In the sense of walking all day
with me, I can travel easy 68 kilometers. And still, I haven't
put anybody that keeps up with me. And it's just something that
my child lives in my fat all my life. So yeah, going for 120. I
think it's an easy goal.
Wow, that's pretty cool. I'm gonna have to expand my thought
on that. Because I've been thinking in recent years, I've
never had these thoughts. But it wasn't until maybe like, I guess
late 40s 50. I'm 53 now. And it has been a thought in my recent
years that thinking about like, my life expectancy, my life
plan, like, like, thinking actually thinking about like,
how long am I actually going to live like, up until you're like
40, whatever, you know, late 40, 50, whatever, I don't know what
the age is different for everybody. But you actually
never think about like, how long am I going to live until one day
for some reason, whether it's somebody that's close to you
that passes away or something, it gets you thinking or like,
I'm, I'm dealing I probably a couple years ago, I started
dealing with my dad and the end and the sort of like, in his
older age, you know, and he's actually doing remarkably well,
he's 84. And had I not intervened and moved him close
to me, to where he is around family and around some some
society, and he's not just a hermit. And now he lives in a in
a place that there's tons of social things going on. He's
like, living again, you know, he's like more young now than
he's ever been. And so and I just found that fascinating. But
I think probably because I was doing that, it started getting
like, how long I really am I really gonna live? You know, how
long do I have left, so to speak?
And there was one of my mentors is going through a process.
He just turned 50 this year, and he's
going through a process of living his life
from a perspective of you're ready to, how does it,
I have to say this correctly.
He's preparing for the end.
So the thought is that you're preparing well for the end.
And if you're prepared for the end,
you're doing all the things that, I don't know,
I'm not saying this well at all.
But it's curious.
So maybe it's something that we can get into it at some point.
So any other transformational stories?
Because I'm curious about, because I
know there's somebody else that said they had a life
transformation that they've done.
It doesn't even have to be recent.
Just at some point, there was this portion in my life
where I was this, and I changed it.
And now I'm much different.
Anybody?
I'm just curious.
Yeah, George.
Gentlemen, how are we doing tonight?
Good.
Hey, sorry I hopped on late.
I was running a little bit late from school today.
I'm just trying to picking up on pieces here
of the conversation.
But I don't know if it's a life transformation.
Maybe it is.
But two and a half years ago, I was diagnosed
with an anxiety disorder.
I'm 50 now.
I just turned 50 in August.
I was always, there were some things just that
always weren't quite right with me.
I couldn't figure it out.
And I always thought I had the adult ADHD and stuff.
And I just dealt with that for much of my adult life.
So anyway, I got on a wait list and went in
and got some testing done finally
after a year and a half being on a wait list.
And I actually came out with an anxiety disorder
with a slight case of ADHD.
But what that did for me was I always,
and it made sense because it answered a lot of questions
I always had about me.
And then it just everything else about life
just then came into full circle, if that makes sense.
Then I could really understand what was going on with me
and why my OCD was always so bad and just always being anxious.
And so I was just starting counseling at the time.
And I can have continued counseling to this day,
two and a half years later,
but then just being introduced to Jackie's program
just over a year and a half ago or so.
And just really getting down and doing a lot of hard work
as well in terms of just with my counseling
and understanding the whole anxiety thing.
But what I've noticed about myself is in the last,
especially in the last year is it's really,
I'm not the anxious person I am anymore.
Like I'm really kind of,
we talked about different attachment styles, right?
And I really have moved from the anxious attachment
over to the secure attachment.
And it's just what it's done for me.
It's just like my life is much more calm now.
And I just, I do life differently and it's a good thing.
And even my 14 or my 16 year old son
and 14 year old daughter,
well, she'll be 14 or actually later this month,
had even just recently within the last few weeks
have talked about, you know, hey, dad,
you're like, you're not the same.
You're like, you're a different person
than you were two years ago.
And that's not a negative, that's not like in a bad way,
but they're just like,
they can just completely see how the last two years,
I guess it's a life transformation, if you will.
But it just gets down to trying to understand
like what's going on in your life
and why do you do what you do?
And just, anyway, it's just to get answers, right?
That's why we do these things.
And so it's been good.
And obviously a lot of prayer and just a lot of hard work
and dealing with childhood trauma and stuff.
And so it's been really good.
It's been a good journey and it continues to get better.
Wow.
Thanks for sharing that, George.
That's powerful.
Yeah, that's definitely a life transformation.
You can get a key that, you know,
basically unlocks, you know,
sort of the, why am I the way I am and so forth?
You're like, you know,
like you have a light bulb goes up or whatever it happens,
you know, obviously heart work is something that we do here.
this program and in this community and I probably need to go back and do some of
my heart work as well so I need to revisit some of that and it's a
lifelong process journeys I've added some breakthrough a couple weeks ago on
some some things that that happened when I was in my ministry years growing up
some things and it had some discussions I'm just coming to mind right now so I
probably should go back and do some of that but yeah we all need to have some
more self-discovery as well so thanks for sharing that George that's pretty
powerful it's definitely I would call that a life transformation like you were
one way but now you know it's it's like yeah when other people recognize it
especially your kids that's powerful if your kids recognize something like hey
you're not you're different like in a good way that's yeah pretty cool yeah
and I think for me to hear to hear them say that and I was just probably within
the last three or four weeks really spoke volumes if you will and I'm a very
humble man but you know I just I just kind of puffed my chest a little bit
you know cuz it's cuz you never know right you just kind of wonder you know
if it's you know but then when you get that confirmation right it's always it
especially coming from your kids you know from from family that's always nice
yeah the people that know you the most that know you the best your family your
friends but especially your family your kids and your spouse people that's in
your life yeah yeah that makes a big difference like what they think how they
see you like super matters absolutely Thomas what's your story oh I'm uh I'm
incredibly grateful for transformation and maybe another word being
metamorphosis I just wrote down a quick list let's see here I went from not
exercising to lifting five times a week and then doing a half-ironman I was a
Calvinist cessationist and then became filled with the spirit I believed
artists were evil people and now and any music with beats on the two and four was
evil now I'm in a praise band artists were evil yeah absolutely look at all
the bad things they do what I believe that dating and courtship now I'm
dating and no one in my immediate family traveled that side of the United States
growing up but now I've been to 23 countries Wow
it's pretty so yeah I mean all kinds of stuff I think a change is very possible
for all of us I'm very confident God God has a sense of humor and I'm just
curious anybody not been out of the United States you mean nothing I'm
sorry what no you said not but I said yeah anybody not ever been out of the
United States or you know recently recently to Canada I mean I'm very
briefly Canada but that's like it's almost you're saying that you haven't
been out of the United States except for recently you just went to Canada is that
what you're saying no not recently but like briefly like Oh
briefly yeah briefly yeah Wow okay you're so close to outside I'd say
aren't you in Michigan yeah I'm Michigan yeah I'm like Detroit area so like
that's very close to um Windsor yeah that's like not out of the United States
I mean it is but it's not if you live in well my family drove I have a really
good friend who lives in Windsor that's freaking Michigan Wolverines fan like
that's not like I'm just joking I'm playing around there
okay that's okay yeah
traveling is cool anybody not anybody not like to travel how many people do
like to travel I like to travel nobody nobody hates anybody hate traveling like
I don't hate it but I'm not like a super fan of it I mean like I could take it or
leave it I guess okay curious okay I'm just asking I don't like planes I like
getting to where I'm going but
the whole airport and loads of people and noise.
Planes wig you out?
Yeah, I mean, honestly,
let me try to find my garage light here.
Here we go.
I would prefer to drive across the United States
versus take a four or five hour flight.
Are you like John Madden, only take a train?
It was a bus.
Do you take trains?
Do you like trains?
Or is it just public transit that you don't like?
I think it's public transit.
I got out of the army with PTSD, anxiety, depression.
Don't like crowded spaces.
Couldn't put up with Costco for the first couple of years.
I get it.
Definitely not the parking lot either.
Yeah.
But yeah, with the plane, it's, I don't know,
like the last, this is last third weekend of October.
Flew out for a cousin's wedding to Florida.
I had like the most crippling back pain.
I was like, man, I'm just driving to Florida next time.
Well, there's not going to be a next wedding, so I'm good.
But you know, I'd rather travel at my own speed
and take care of my body versus sit.
To be fair, it was a Spirit Airlines flight.
Well, yeah, that's like horrendous for anybody.
Yeah, that's not even really flying.
That's just like, that's like being shipped.
Like that's humans being shipped somewhere
like DHL or something.
It's like going grocery shopping,
except you're in the cart.
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Yeah, you're just part of the groceries.
You're not even shopping.
My father, my father and my stepfather
both were Air Force pilots.
And so I've grown up just with an affinity for air travel.
And I love airplanes.
I like it, you know.
But there's also some weird things
that happened a couple of years ago.
I started having these like irrational fears
about like when I'm on an airplane,
when something would happen, I'm like, oh.
I'm like, why am I thinking
about the worst case scenario right now?
I've never had that issue, you know what I'm thinking about?
And so I would go ask my dads.
I would say, hey, when this happens on the plane,
what's happening mechanically, like on the plane?
So I have that level of understanding.
And so they would tell me, oh, that's just, you know,
this and this and whatever is going on.
It's like, oh, okay.
So now I have these, I just educate myself.
So this level of understanding helped me
to not have these irrational, weird things
about what's happening on the airplane
mechanically or all that.
The people thing, yeah, the people thing can be irritating.
But I don't have the situation of the PTSD,
which my brother-in-law does.
My brother-in-law is a veteran.
He was, his outfit, he was a Marine.
Staff Sergeant and was a veteran of Battle of Fallujah.
And that was a pretty gritty one.
And that was a pretty, pretty tragic.
And what he went through, I've never heard his story,
but I can just only imagine.
And yeah, if we're sitting around
and we're in a crowded place and it's 9 o'clock at night
and it's about to get lit because party people are
coming around and it's just like, yep, time to go.
Because the people, just the energy of just anything
that would be like unexpected would just,
probably is not healthy.
And it's difficult, so.
I mean, nowadays I'm a lot better,
but it still feels like-
I can appreciate it.
Nails on a chalkboard.
Yeah.
I'd just rather not be around it if I could avoid it.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry that's happened to you.
And yeah, thank you for your service
and all of that stuff.
Yeah, thank you for your support, David.
On multiple levels.
It's good, it's good.
Well, you guys, I mean,
I kind of shared my sort of stuff with you
and my angst with you.
I mean, the sports thing and the Ohio State thing is funny,
but at the same time, I was like really affected by it.
And it wasn't good.
And you can tell at the beginning of the call,
I was getting a little bit animated.
And it's just like, why, why is this?
But what I'm trying to say is that this call today was,
as you guys help me sort of like encourage me, lift me up.
So normally we're doing that differently.
So I appreciate you guys just kind of caring enough to,
to, uh, to, uh, champion me, support me and,
and hold me accountable. I'm doing this journey.
I'm going to try to see what's going to happen the next 30 to 40,
really 40, about 45 days. I'm trying to,
but that's kind of like it's Jackie's birthday in 45 days.
You don't know this. Her birthday is January 16th.
So, um,
if you're inclined to, uh, reach out, say anything,
do anything, whatever like that, um, it would be really, really great. She,
she always, um, just really appreciates just, um,
she does so much for so many people. I mean, you have no idea.
I mean, she serves and serves and serves and serves and over serves. And,
um, even though we run a business and our business does well, and, and,
and we run a community and we have a lot of people's attention
that can be also very, very, very taxing.
And, um, it can be very taxing in our life and our,
our personal relationship, just our harmony at home and so forth.
And so we're, we're glad to do it. We're,
we feel like we're making a difference in the world.
We feel like we're doing kingdom work.
We feel like we're doing the work of the Lord in doing it, but it can be very,
very, very never ending and exhausting. And so,
um,
if you feel like just giving a shout out or celebrating her in any kind of way,
um, you know, definitely, um, do, do so. I would,
she would appreciate it for sure. So her, but she's going to be 50 years old.
So this is a big one.
And she was been 30 for 20 years now, but like, you know, other than that,
there is that, yes.
True.
But she has acknowledged that she is turning the big five. Oh,
and she, she is excited.
She's, um, she's,
she's always been very aware of her, like,
you know, existential, like future self, you know,
she's very like cognizant of all that. She, you know, she's just like any,
like most women are, but,
and she's always been very aware of her mortality since she
was a young child, you know? And so she just lives with that.
But at the same time, um, turning 50 is like, she's really, really,
really trying to embrace it and make it positive, but it's,
it's difficult for her. Some people just don't like to get,
like they have this moniker of like, like it does getting old.
It's like wrong or bad or whatever, or it shouldn't happen. You know,
like you should be young forever, young. And, uh, and they tell him, oh,
you know, age is just a number. It's all in your head. And so,
and they're like, yeah, right. Whatever. Like tell it to my, the way I feel,
but tell it to my body, you know?
And then she's trying to get her body in alignment. She's like,
why don't I look like I did when I was 32? And I'm like, babe,
you do, you do like, like when you're 32, like, I think you look awesome.
You know, do I look beautiful? Yes, of course. Like, you know, I'm just like,
I'm giving her all.
I remember I put on the 50th for my wife and we put a big spiel on where I
rented a church and we had everything going for it, but it was all about her.
It sounds like that would be something Jackie would appreciate.
Yeah, I'm definitely, well, we're, we're doing a party and I'm here in Austin.
Um, on, um, at the end of the month,
the end of January, but off for her birthday,
we're actually going to Vegas because she just said, I want to go to Vegas.
And I'm like, uh, okay. So,
cause she just wants to do it that big. And I'm like, okay, come say hi.
Where are you in Vegas, David? Yeah. Oh, okay.
I actually found out about last year single from one of the pastors at my
church. Wow. Cause I guess she knew Jackie from something.
What's the church? Uh, crosswinds community church.
It's a about 20 minutes Northwest of the strip. Wow.
Okay.
I'll have to come and see you then. I've got to get my next.
So I figured I'm going to fly down there and fly back. It's cheapest flights ever,
like $29. Yeah. You can get to Vegas sometimes pretty cheap.
So I mean,
We're not gonna go to gamble. We don't go to like do all that. Oh, there's great shows down there. Come on
We're gonna see
We're gonna see a show and it's gonna be good. Our kids are going and so it's gonna be great
We're gonna awesome, but but the Vegas for us is like an in-and-out type thing
We don't like you don't stay there for like a week
You know, you go to Vegas for two and a half days and that's it like and do your thing that it up get out
and because it's
It's crazy
Guys
Anything else we need to
Have a question. Yeah good. I got on way to apologize
Andy how many people would you talk to this week? I'm just curious. Hey, that's good three. Let's go
Hey, how'd it go?
Oh
Thank you, thank you for remembering that that's actually what I was just about to say myself. Yeah, how'd it go?
Yeah, I mean it was it was pretty brief
like the first two times was just saying hi and then the third one was complimenting and
a dude with a cool jacket
nice
So awesome news Andy did they so they were receptive the people that you complimented and talked to?
Oh, yeah, mm-hmm nice
That's awesome, do you feel like doing it again to you did you did you feel excited about it like hey should do this more
often
Well, I mean, I felt good when I was doing it
but
It's definitely something that I still would have to push myself to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely
But we encourage you to continue doing it if you didn't
Know last week we were challenging Andy to
three conversations with strangers to get his reps in to
up his relational
game
so
Continue to continue to encourage you to do that Andy. That's awesome
Thanks Scott for reminding that and asking that that's that's so cool
Anything else
Yeah, quick question
One is there a 10 o'clock meeting Monday mornings
Temperaments
Yeah under the event section was one Easter. Yeah
It's one Eastern. Yeah
The skin as a schedulers the the people that run our calendar not I mean, that's our team but our team
They put a men's meeting on there and I think they were thinking that
There were some men that couldn't make this meeting to make it as an alternative
but
Yeah, we've only ever had one person show up. I think
Nobody showed up. Yeah last week
Yeah, I showed up first time and I don't I was the only one there
Okay, so I don't know that it's a great time because I don't think it's like, you know
If there were if there were several people that was like, hey, that's the only time I could do it
Then I think that probably we we would have that but um, so yeah
I'll tell them to ask them to see if we can amend that so that it won't be
like confusing
And you don't look at the Sunday night prayer to it says 6 p.m. Easter and it definitely started at 8 last night
So, I don't know if that was check your
in the advent ad event is a third-party app that's like
Okay, that's wired into our app
Make sure that your time zone is that's important. Yeah
Okay
Notice that we're like, you know, basically if the time zones defaulting to something just me
Yeah, that's every other every other time seems right. It was whatever. I figured it out. What is your time zone East East Eastern time zone?
Oh, so yeah, most events were having in the evening Eastern time zone would be seven
Most well, no, it's eight. It's always eight
In fact, we thought Scott's idea was for us to come on at eight like normal and then everyone was there but it says six
It's actually
Type type is like a typo. Yeah, so like let me see if you might not be able to see it. No, you can't see it
But I figured I thought like well, it says six I just got on there and I'll be well
It's probably eight because everyone that was a regular Sunday night prayer. It was an act. Yeah. Yeah
Okay, I'll I'll tell the tell the not that big a deal figure it out
Yeah, just ask him and pay to double check that make sure that it's correct on there
You
Go ahead. Can I dumb question? I use Android.
Is anyone or everyone else able to, like, click the meeting link in the app and get put through to zoom.
It sends me into, like.
Purgatory, and I just, you know, I'm like, sign in and in zoom and everything like that. I just.
So, I have to go back. I have to go back to the email that I copied all the links into many months ago and pull it up from there.
Like, just another email every time it's just 1 of the things that we, as an organization have against Android users. We just really try to make it difficult because they deserve it. They deserve it technology here. So this is how we do it.
I will accept persecution for righteousness sake.
Yeah, they deserve it.
So, listen, you know, I've had questions like that before.
It doesn't work on Android either.
We found that being logged into zoom, the app sometimes helps too, just to make sure that, like, because I think sometimes, this isn't the only fix, but what I'm saying is that it's looking for
to open up the app and if the app's logged in or whatever, that's a consideration, definitely check that.
You guys are all technical enough to where I don't, I don't know what the troubleshooting on that is, but I have heard that issue before, but it doesn't happen all the time.
Like, as in, if it happened all the time, then it'd be like a thing that we could find and we could know, and we could fix the bug and whatever.
But if it's circumstantial, like the user, like just your setup, whatever, there's not much we can do about it other than.
Well, yeah, I'm an engineer.
I could be able to figure it out, but now that I know that it's not like persistent, I'll go figure it out.
I've just been a little bit perplexed.
It happens on my Android too.
And there's other zooms that I go on with other things and it goes right through, but for some reason this one won't.
So I don't know if it's your main setup or what.
Yeah.
I mean, just to make sure, just to make sure when you're, when you're basically bringing up the event tab and it's got the calendar on it.
I tried every, every which way I finally did get through, but yeah.
You hit the link and it doesn't go straight through.
It just takes you somewhere else.
It takes you to log into zoom and then it doesn't go into the meeting.
It won't pull the meeting up like the usual.
That's what I was thinking was, is that to be logged into your zoom app prior to hitting that link is a, is a tip.
So make sure that, make sure that you're logged into your zoom app or zoom webpage or whatever, before you hit the link so that it connects.
Oh, so you can do it with a browser that way too.
Cause I don't want to get in the app.
I want to like join on the browser.
Um, but yeah, that's a good point.
You log in.
Somebody, somebody pray us out if you would.
I will.
And just so you know, it does the same thing on Apple.
If you're not logged into zoom, like I had that same problem.
So, so Lord Jesus, I just thank you for all these men and all the ones that weren't able to make it Lord.
Would we, uh, begin with the end in mind?
Would you guide us to the destiny that you have for us?
Would you help us do the hard things that you have before us?
But Lord David and Jackie, and I just, you help them on their journey, um, and their ministry.
And I, Lord, I just pray you walk off the distractions and that you, um, watch over them and protect them, their minds, their, their schedules, their kids, um, their cars, their, their, um, pets, everything, Lord, anything that there would be no inroads that the enemy could use to, to sidetrack them.
And Lord, I just pray for peace and Shalom to flood their house.
And that, um, that clarity and wisdom and clarity of mind would be, they'd have such clear minds.
And Lord, I just thank you for every man on this call.
I pray for any PTSD to be broken and healed.
And I just, I just thank you for all these men that are struck, that are, that are in it to win it Lord.
And I just pray that you help them with their breakthrough and that you guide us to where we should go.
And, but most of all, Lord, will we just feel your love and your presence this week as we go and, um, help, help level on your kids that don't know you in Jesus name.
Amen.
Thanks guys.
Love y'all.
God bless.
One question here before you leave, Dave.
Well, the question I have for you, um, that I was asking about, where can I find the answer for that?
I'm you're going to have to refresh my memory on.
I'm just not understanding these phases or stages that the men, women are talking about.
They're in stage one, two, three, or whatever it might be.
Is that a coordinator to the week?
that are in the training or what?
Are you talking about, oh, phase one, two, and three.
The women's program is designed a little bit more elaborately
with phase one, phase two, phase three.
Phase one is heartwork.
Phase two is love story accelerators,
sort of like best practices in dating,
relationship, that kind of stuff.
All that content is in, I think it's in the app,
somewhere, and then, but the men,
we pretty much just have it all together, I think.
Okay, all right, sure.
I can get you a better answer at some point,
but phase three- It is.
Ongoing community.
Yeah, it's under the PATH sessions.
Yeah.
It talks about, where is it at?
I just watched it.
Um, so it's relationship levels
that Jackie talks about in depth for like expectations,
I think, that you were mentioning.
Yeah, if you're talking about relationship levels,
there's, we outline five levels of relationship.
One, basically, basic outline is this.
Level one is you know of the person,
the person's in proximity to you.
You might know their name,
they might go to church with you,
you might work with them, you know this person,
some shape, form, or fashion.
Level two is you have identified this person,
they've identified you, and you might be going on a date,
you might be dating, like a couple times,
but it's not exclusive.
Yeah.
Level three is dating
and getting to know somebody exclusively.
Yeah.
Level four is engagement, and level five is marriage.
Thank you.
And there's some just, define the relationship
like as a big thing to, when you're continuing on
in relationship, to understand like,
levels just kind of help you sort of,
suggestively navigate, you know, where are we at?
Yes, yeah, I understand that, you bet.
Yeah, I understand the whole process.
I just couldn't, there was nothing explained to me
what those levels were.
Yeah, that's the basic. Thank you.
Yeah, no problem. Perfect.
All right. God bless, guys.
Bless you all.
Okay. Bye, thanks.
Have a great week, guys.
You too.