Uh, let's see, uh, Rebecca, you want to kick us off with a quick prayer?
Sure.
Yeah, let's do that.
Heavenly father, God, thank you for bringing us together today, father.
Thank you for the time ahead that you've gone before us to plan out for us, Lord.
We know that you have good plans to prosper and not harm us Lord.
Thank you for opening doors and connecting us with this group of
precious business builders and entrepreneurs Lord, and we just pray
God that this mentorship program will be the thing that creates real change
that we can expect increase, that we can expect the hand of favor to be
upon us Lord, while we're learning and implementing and being doers father.
I just pray that you help us be your hands and feet, Lord, help us be income
earners and impact makers Lord, but ultimately that we would further
your kingdom and bring you glory.
We turn this time over to you, Lord.
And we pray these things in Jesus name.
Amen.
Yes.
I love it.
Ooh.
All right.
So I, uh, I got nice to very quickly, um, pray about each of you first.
Um, one question is, uh, Miranda, how are you feeling?
Cause I prayed a lot.
I prayed a lot of stuff.
Yeah.
Um, I've got, I got some clarity today, like some relief.
It was heavy this morning.
Um, it was heavy this morning.
Uh, I woke up in the middle of the night and I was praying about it all morning.
So yeah, I feel like there's been a release.
Yeah.
You had a lot of stuff going on, spiritual stuff, spiritual stuff.
And, and so, um, good.
Very good.
All right.
So let me, let me very quickly.
So this, you know, and the, the goal of this is not to solve every problem
you've ever had in your entire life.
Right.
Um, but the goal of this is for each of you to walk away with what's my next step.
What's the next step.
And, and so this will be custom.
Not all of you have the same next step.
It's going to be, you know, some of you are here.
Some of you are here.
Some of you here, you know, and so like, what's, you know, we will determine
when it comes to sales and marketing, what's your first step, but I did get
nudged my very, I don't know if this will be the case every time, but you know,
for today I did get nudged to just quickly pray about each of you.
And so, um, so give me, give me one second.
All right.
So I'll start with Jeremy.
Uh, so Miranda, we, we did a lot of stuff yesterday.
I don't get anything with you.
Um,
Hey, so I'm going to use some terms.
Getting like an electric guitar feedback here.
Um, but I'm gonna use some terms that you may not be used to people that have,
have gotten recent coaching from me.
Um, we'll be aware of this.
Um, and so,
so, uh, Jeremy, we're just gonna pray something off of you.
Um, so when I use the word agreement, an agreement is not something you agree to.
Um, but it's something you agreed to.
So at some point in your life, you agreed to this thing.
And I got set like a program as allows the enemy to constantly show you evidence.
And I always pray, is it okay for me to share this?
And I, and I got a yes on this, uh, with, you know, some of you, you may like see
me go mute and, you know, he's telling me not to share this.
Um, but we'll get it off you anyway.
All right.
And so, um, how an agreement works is it gives the enemy legal jurisdiction to
show you like, see, look, look, I told you, look, there it is.
Right.
And so you have this, this theme, you know, this thing that you're constantly
shown that doesn't serve you.
And is it true?
It's not true.
And, but at some point in your life, like for me, uh, my agreement was, uh, I
deserve punishment and that was created as a teenager.
Right.
And so I don't typically go into when it was created.
We don't need to know, but we want to get it off.
Okay.
And so, um, okay.
So, uh, so Jeremy with, with you, the agreement.
is I'm not enough. And so the person that has that there's there's a couple reactions to that
agreement that they could have one super I mean I just I just met a guy in Cabo this guy's made
hundreds of millions of dollars it is never enough he got to keep going like and his agreement was
I'm not enough and and so there's there's that or some for some people I'm not enough means I'll
never do anything right like I don't take any action at all I don't I don't I literally you
know just stay in my house and I'm terrified and so we'll just quickly pray that off of you
first of all Jeremy does that resonate at all sometimes it does sometimes it doesn't
um yes yes yeah so let's pray that pray that off here real quick and so father we're just
so grateful for you father thank you for breaking off the agreement from Jeremy right now Lord
thank you for breaking this agreement of I'm not enough from Jeremy right now Lord in Jesus name
amen
okay
okay so that's what I got for you I don't get there's there's I don't know five six seven
different categories I go through real quick um that's the one thing I got for you um and
these are always things if you have especially my faith and finance masterminders if you have
additional questions you know box me and we can get into the nitty-gritty of anything um thanks
so let me go Sarah and by the way God will tell me if I'm not supposed to share something
and so if you're like I don't want him to share right you know we'll we'll figure that out all
right and these are kind of rapid fire because I want to make sure each of you get your sales
and marketing next step all right
okay I don't I don't get anything with you right now Sarah all right so let's see Leslie
um
okay so leslie with you it's one of those i'm not supposed to share but we are going to break
off box me if you want to know if you want to know i'll tell you okay so one second
okay all right that's what i got for you leslie just the one thing uh carrie i know we did some
pran at faith or fear let's just do a quick check here
okay good
and the way that i i talk about this stuff is
if we only talk about the tactical and the strategic but you have an agreement it's going to
it's just you're you're running in mud you know it's just very very difficult and there's some
agreements that you ain't going to create success it just ain't going to happen it's you know i i
i met uh uh one lady yesterday or what day is it sunday sunday uh someone we baptized in the pool
um she had an agreement a side agreement and a stronghold that were all um i'm not enough
i mean man you got all three of those like a trifecta like that you just that's a tough life
um and so all right let's continue forward okay all right
Okay, you only have one thing.
And that is someone has a spirit of offense against you.
It's only one person.
And so do you have an idea who it might be because I could pray on that.
You're muted.
I would, I may be my ex-husband.
And what's his name?
Well, his legal name is Howard, but he's goes by Andy or Andrew, Drew.
So all so that is it, he's, he's the one.
And so all you do, and this is from first Peter three, nine, it's also from Jesus, but
first Peter three, nine, don't trade evil for evil and so principle, but instead bless
that you can have a blessing.
So I can pray and got to remove it, but it's actually more powerful if you say, I bless
him in Jesus name.
Okay.
So if you say that the spirit leaves and you also, the scripture is accurate.
You get some form of a blessing.
So it's when someone, you know, Jesus also said, bless those who persecute you.
That was actually a direction, not a well-wish or something.
Yeah.
So that's, that's the only thing I got for you, but it will, it does what I've found
because I get these, I don't get these every day, but you know, a few times a week, I'll
have someone have a spirit of offense against me.
And when I, when I bless them I gain energy, I have more energy.
And so it's something that drags you down a little bit when you have that thing.
Okay.
I can pray right now.
Go for it.
I can test it.
Go ahead.
Okay.
Father, I just pray a blessing over Andy and Lord that you would just release him and show
him your direction and your love and your mercy and grace in Jesus name.
Amen.
So you need to say it specifically.
Okay.
I bless him.
Whatever.
Howard.
I think.
Okay.
I bless them in Jesus name.
So it's actually comes from you because this agreement, God's not in, God's not in this
agreement.
It's you and him.
Okay.
Heavenly father.
I bless Andy in Jesus name.
Amen.
Okay.
There you go.
All right.
Yay.
All right.
Wait, do we have two Miranda's or is that.
I'm just in the, I'm in the chat because he's driving.
Okay.
I can watch the chat.
Okay.
All right.
So, and then I'm going to go to Jean, Jean, how are you doing great?
What the hell's going on?
Okay.
So the first thing you do have an agreement, and again, this isn't something you agree
to, but it's something you agreed to at some point in your life.
You may not even remember doing this, but it's given the enemy access to mess with you
and show you false evidence and to say, look, see, I told you.
And so yours is it'll never work out.
And so the person that has this is often the starter and other finisher.
Often they will go down a path, be excited, and then kind of pull back because it's like,
well, it's not going to work out why bother?
And does that resonate at all?
A little bit.
I would say it as I always say to myself, oh, she thinks this of me.
They think that of me.
That's par for the course.
It's par for the course.
And I just kind of let it be.
So that may be something else.
What I found is the primary thing is like the agreement and like there's side agreements,
there are strongholds, there are contracts, there's all these different categories of
things.
And so, well, let's pray that off first.
So, Father, we're just so grateful for you, Father.
Thank you for breaking off the agreement
of it'll never work out from Jean right now, Lord.
Thank you for breaking that agreement off right now, Lord,
in Jesus' name, amen.
So, Father, we're just so grateful for you, Father.
Okay, so I didn't get too creative in the name here,
but a side agreement is a little different.
Okay, so this is the only side agreement.
I had three, by the way.
By the way, everything that I'm praying for you guys about,
I had all of them, just so you know.
So I was more banged up than all of you, I assure you.
And so, the side agreement, it works similar,
but the way to get it off is different.
And so, I'll type something in the chat
that is how you get rid of a side agreement.
And so, the side agreement, which I can tell you,
is I can't do this.
And so, that's like a type of frustration of,
well, I can't do this.
And so, here's how you get rid of it.
I'm gonna type it in the chat.
Okay, so it's just, this is something I can't do
for some reason, but you say it, and it's I break off.
I can't do this from me right now in Jesus' name.
Okay, great, thank you.
So if you wanna say that, I can test,
make sure it's, Vamonos.
Sure, I break off.
I can't do this for me right now in Jesus' name.
Yes, it's gone, but you do have a stronghold,
which I saw Lisa Coaster join us.
She was the first person that led me to that question.
Okay, great.
Okay.
Okay, all right, so this one,
this is a stronghold, a little different.
This is more of a personal held belief
than giving the enemy access to you.
This one, I'm not to share,
but you can reach out to me if you wanna know it,
but I'm not to share this one publicly,
but I will tell you it is right in alignment
with what you mentioned before.
Okay.
So sometimes the agreement
isn't what shows up most for you.
It's a stronghold or a side agreement, so one second.
This one I can't break off.
Okay.
Okay, that's what we got for Jean.
Let's see, who's left?
I think that's everyone, isn't it?
Thought I saw Lisa come.
Oh, Lisa, I don't see you.
All right, I think that that's everyone, right?
Is there someone I missed besides Lisa?
Or she's gone.
No, there she is.
Okay, all right, okay.
All right, real quick.
All right.
We've been through a few of these, haven't we, Lisa?
Okay, good to go, good to go.
All right, so first I wanted to chat with Dawn.
So Dawn, tell me where you're at.
And by the way, if I am prompted to do this kind of thing,
it gets faster and faster
because most of this stuff won't come back on you
every once in a while.
Agreement, very rare.
I've only met, I think, one person that it came back.
But it just, this gets faster and faster.
So Dawn, tell me where are you at
in your sales and marketing?
And I don't need a ton of context,
but just where you're at,
I'm gonna see what would be your next best step.
Well, at the moment, I'm taking one of my coaching programs
and I'm creating videos to make it digital
so I can sell it online
versus having to have one-on-one clients all the time.
Okay, so what is the coaching program?
What does it do?
It is...
Like life coaching or?
Yeah, yeah, basically life coaching, yeah.
Okay, and how much do you sell that for?
The online program?
Yeah, that's a good question
because you're like transitioning.
So what have you sold it for in the past
when you were doing the coaching with them?
Anywhere between three and 10,000.
Okay, 3K to 10K, all right.
And now what's your idea when you digital, make it digital?
Like what would-
To make it, to get them involved in some capacity,
I was gonna do something really low,
like the $7, like here's a little taste, right?
And then have a funnel system where they can upgrade
to get more and more content.
But I mean, I still was looking
at a pretty low price point probably,
like 147 bucks or something,
just to get it out and be able to sell it, right?
Like, I don't think anybody's gonna hesitate to spend $147.
Okay, so what we can sometimes fall into,
what do I think will work
versus what do I actually wanna create?
Yeah, well, and that's kind of what I'm
in the process of doing, right?
And so, and even the, you know,
so I sent you my three questions
and now I'm refining that how with the strategies
and the steps that I have in this coaching program.
Yeah, so what have you,
roughly, rough estimate,
how many people have bought the life coaching program
as it is?
20 something.
Okay, 20-ish.
So here's the one thing, all right?
So you're, instead of thinking,
hey, I'm taking a life coaching program
and I'm making it digital,
you're not, you are creating a course
and a course is different
than a digital life coaching program.
Because that's, it's gonna be hard to sell a,
this is a life coaching program, but digital,
it'll be much easier to sell a course
that delivers a specific result.
Okay.
And so do you have testimonials from the 20-ish
or at least some of them?
Yes.
From your life coaching program?
Yes.
Okay, so what would be,
so you definitely wanna hold onto those,
those are gold.
And so remind me,
cause I don't, I just don't know it off the top of my head.
I don't even know where my phone is, oh there it is.
Who is your, who's your who again?
Well, so I've defined it much tighter, you know,
there's been a massive shift in my direction with this
and that now it's women who are either seeking
to grow closer to God or know God
and God, I wish I could, can I grab my phone?
Cause I sent it to you.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I've been on nonstop meetings.
So I have, let me see, I have 36 boxers and 53 texts.
Yeah, well, I totally get that.
So who am I, who am I helping?
Who do I serve?
Women who are seeking to follow or find God
through the trials of marriage, motherhood and divorce.
Okay, so when you look at the people
that have been through your life coaching program
that gave you testimonials and got results,
does that describe them?
No.
What were they attempting to do?
Okay.
Well, so I have more than one program
and one of them is more like help mind.
So it's looking at a lot,
a lot of my clients wanted to lose weight
and they had stories that they had created
and they also needed help shifting, you know,
and so I use a fasting program
and it's all tied to scripture.
And then, so they're losing weight,
but we're digging into what's the mindset
that they've held onto the stories from their past,
the habits that they brought with them into the now
and being able to change that image of who they are in him
instead of the one that they've held on to.
So that was one program.
The other program was really gear,
and I had a lot of men clients actually too.
So it was geared towards people
that felt really stuck in an area of their life
where they just felt like they could not move forward
no matter what they did.
So again, digging into the kind of like the agreements
that people have in their life and working through those
and helping them shift their subconscious mind
to the way of, you know, breaking the chains of peptides,
you know, the peptide chains, right?
So recognizing those, recreating those.
But part of this, Ray, has to do with
when I came to your speaking thing,
you know, so I used to train for a MLM,
you know, and I did a lot of other speaking
in that direction, but I wanna shift that.
The book that's coming out next month
is really addressing this.
You know, it's really speaking to all the things
that I have gone through
and how I was able to make those shifts,
keep moving forward, grow and design a life I loved
versus stay in that yacht, right?
So now I feel like the Lord's just, you know,
he brought me the mastermind and I,
and so it's a big shift for me, Ray,
because I'm feeling like I'm really honing in
to where God is calling me
and I wanna be able to do speaking about this
because I really know that that is my purpose.
And it might be in churches, you know, or,
but, and I really do believe,
because I never wanted to like tighten myself into something
I really do believe that it's women.
You know, I'm a woman.
I did it.
And I wanna be able to encourage them through the process.
That's why I joined the mastermind.
It's like, okay, we're starting from scratch here.
Yeah, no, no, no.
Okay, all right.
Let me.
All right, let me just pray about this real quick.
Okay.
So, I'm going to give you kind of the, it's really easy.
So, I was just, one of my clients, you saw him on stage, Eddie Villa, big tall guy, right?
And you know, he trains girls, basketball, high school basketball players.
And you know, when they come in, like his first, I don't know for how long, but his
first whatever is the fundamentals, how to dribble, dribble properly, you know, just
like Vince Lombardi, you know, he would start every year with this as a football, you know,
just as very fundamentals.
Now we want to learn the spinning jackhammer dunk, right?
We want to learn the, you know, 360, you know, three point, we want the fancy, right?
We want the, you know, how to do this, that, this, that, this.
And so, the fundamental, which is the mantle, right, which, you know, I'm, so what I got
was when we, when we focus, when we get the mantle, everything else is easier.
When we're, when we're not so sure about who we serve, how we serve them and why they should
listen to us, then we try to like, okay, I'm going to take this, I'm going to make it digital.
Like we try to make these moves in a nebulous kind of manner versus under this, this mantle
of this, this is what we're doing.
And, and so what I got from, you know, your talk and at least what I kind of got in my
spirit and then I prayed about it and God is, let's try this out, is you help women
stuck in their diet or career.
How do you do that?
And this is where, you know, this is probably homework, you know, for you, but, you know,
how you do that is I get that you can't, I don't think everyone's called to do this
by the way.
I think you are, but you don't have to be faith forward in your branding message.
I think some people are, some people aren't, I think you, I get that you are, and it's
some kind of, you know, is it, I mean, I could, I can't, he won't let me pray on this one.
So this is for you.
But it's some kind of, you know, seven step faith driven process to guaranteed unstuckness
or something like that.
And it might, it doesn't have to be seven, it doesn't have to be unstuckness, but it,
but it's seven when I was today, when I was praying about it, I had seven already.
Like that was the number.
Yeah.
And it was like seven success strategies or something, you know, like it was just, and
I need to write stuff down faster when it comes to my mind.
And so, so that would be, you know, one, one thing, but I feel like there's a few things
there and then how to, how to consider where were you ever like overweight, did you struggle
with weight?
I, I definitely got to a point where I gained some weight.
I mean, maybe not to other people's, you know, but to where you are unhappy with your weight.
Oh, very much.
So, yeah.
I mean, I needed 20 pounds, right?
Yeah.
So that that's, what's important.
It's not, you know, Oh, I wasn't 300 pounds.
So it's where, you know, it's a dumb, it's if you were unhappy and career diet, and you're
not qualified to help people that are stuck in their career diet.
And you know, cause you're an authority of that doesn't mean an expert, but if you're
an authority cause you've been there, you got over that, you're feeling better.
And so, and I do have a really solid background in, in health, nutrition, you may be an expert
to exercise.
So, yeah.
And so homework number one is finish that out, right?
Get, get that tight and you know, I love that by the way, I was really trying to figure
out how can I integrate what I was already doing and yet still tie in where I feel like
I'm led.
Yeah.
So, and so finish that out the, the why me, why should people, so the three questions,
as you, most of you know, you know, who am I helping?
We're helping women stuck in their career diet.
How are we helping them?
We got a seven step process that helps them get unstuck or whatever verbiage, you know,
we come up with.
And then why should they.
listen to me because you too were once stuck in your career
diet. And, you know, you you crack the code, right? And so
you don't this isn't the why should they listen to me isn't
here's all the things I've been through. Right? You could have a
website that goes into more detail for sure. But it's first
for us to get this kind of mantle. And then your second
step is I want it's fine to have a $7 thing or $147 thing. But it
needs to be a precise delivery of something. Okay, it is. You
know, it's got it's got to be like a caffeine injection,
right? It's got to be like, I'm sipping an espresso. It's, it's
some quick deliverable that I'm willing to trade money for. And,
and so,
and I hesitate, I do hesitate about that only because my, you
know, like the clients that the majority of clients that I had
were at least three month clients, where because it took
time to take out the crap, teach them how to actually fast, use
the fasting, shift the mindset, you know, all of those pieces,
because it's a lot of pieces.
Well, what's what's one move? Like, like, like, we don't have
to come up with it here. But this is your homework. What's
one move that, you know, what's something that really moves the
needle? You know, like, what's, what's something that man, if
they just do this, that's, that's going to move the needle
for them. And in anything that you deliver, don't create
islands. So you never want to have a, you know, like, okay,
you bought this $7 product. Congratulations, you're all done
here. Now it's the $7 gives them what they bought it for, but
also says, Hey, by the way, if you I have more resources and
more help if you go over here or check out this course, or you
upgrade or hire me or whatever. And unless you hate it, I
wouldn't throw coaching away.
Oh, no, I love coaching.
So you can always change how it's delivered. You can always
change the price. You know, like a lot of people I've worked
with, I just I'm like, all right, double your prices and
cut the hours in half. And it works. It works the exact same
way that they're doing before. It's just they're doing half the
work and double the money. And and so that, you know, that's
that's fun. And so, but yeah, we'll get your your homework is
finished that out the who, how, and why me and then think about
what's one thing that might be that initial course, and then
we'll work from there. Because this again, this we can't solve
every problem on here.
Okay, thank you so much for this.
Yes, you got it. You got it. And while we're going through these,
I'm sure that was helpful for others, too. And so
all right, let's go to Miranda.
Hi. Hey, we're gonna be in a little bit. We're gonna be
pulling into my driveway in about two minutes.
You may come back when we go to someone come back or
that's you might be better just because we'll be transitioning
will be in one will be stationary in about five
minutes.
All right, let's go to Carrie.
There you are. Hey, what's happening?
Well, good.
Where do you without much context? Where are you in your
sales and marketing? Where's like, you're, you're, you're
like, I really don't know what to do here.
Well, kind of, kind of like we've talked about, you know, in
the in the faith finance, really kind of at that starting point
for me personally, you know, for my for my wife, and I in our
direct sales business, you know, we've been in a gold mentorship
program. So utilizing, you know, what my wife has been doing,
we're, you know, seeing some really good success in that
process, in the context, but that's primarily with the work
that she's been doing online. So most of what I have been doing
prior to this, in the context of sales, and obviously, team
building has been more traditional prospecting one on
one, a little bit of prospecting online, that sort of thing. So
where I'm at right now, personally, in our business, is
really just going, okay, really answering those questions, like,
you know, and like, and I understand that that's, those
questions are more for, you know, kind of a big picture, not
necessarily the sales of our products, but obviously, one
will lead to the other, right. And so that's, I'm kind of just
at that, at that beginning point of trying to, to define, because
right now, in terms of my social media stuff, very typically
faith forward, just because of what I do outside of my
business.
which is very faithforward, obviously, but so just kind of trying to work,
create the dots, follow the dots of where and how the Lord would have me press in
so that what I'm doing is not only consistent with kind of what's
true to me and resonates with me, because ultimately my message online is gonna be
different from my wife's. My wife's is very specific. So I'm kind of at that
place where I'm just trying to work through listening, hearing, and going, okay,
let's really step into this. Okay, and so where are you at with who do you
think you help? Do you have any inkling? Well, you know, and that was where, you
know, I'm meant to be super transparent and that is, you know, who I want to help
is anybody, right? Anybody and everybody. You know, when you
asked the question and I sent you the answer. Let me tell you how that works.
Who else wants to help everybody? Right, most of us. Okay, here's how it
works. When you establish a brand that is successful, thriving, in momentum, rock
star status, guess what? People that are not your who will want to work with you.
So, you know, I have, I mean, right now I have a saxophone company, a grass-fed beef
company. I always get real estate people, insurance people, like, you know, they've
seen what I've done and they consume my content. They like what I'm, what I talk
about, want me to work with them. They're not in my who. I don't have to, I help
network marketers and grass-fed beef and saxophone players. You know, I don't, I
don't have to update, you know, and so, but the key is to get into momentum and
to grow that brand and that influence and you will have spillover. You will
have people that you didn't have any idea you'd be helping with your tagline
because you think that it's restrictive, but it's actually restrictive when you
help everyone because then you can't, you can't target anyone. You're just, you
know, like, you know, like how do you come up, you know, so it's like, it'd be
better for you to focus on, you know, here's all you need to know about
Labradoodle puppies than dogs because you can become, you know, you can, you can
get into the niche of Labrador puppies and know, you know, and talk everything
about Labrador puppies much easier than you can all of dogs or animals in
general. And, and so any, and so yeah, so most of the times it is, you know, who we
used to be that we're called to help and, you know, that's in several scriptures,
Judges 3, 1, and 2, 1st Peter 4, 10, 2nd Corinthians 1, I think 3 and 4, and
and, and so, you know, it's, it's to comfort those who we've gotten comfort
from is to help the person we used to be. And so that's typically the, the answer.
Right. And that's why we don't, when I, when I sent it to you, you know, it was
basically, I felt like the Lord, you know, initially said early seniors. Why?
Because, you know, obviously it's 61. And again, no detail, you know, all the many
details, but that's, you know, my story, my story was late forties, lost
everything.
Well, that's who that may be who you consider yourself to be, but it's not.
What have you been through? You know, like, what have you been through? What is
something that you never asked for, but you're now qualified to help people with?
Like, I didn't, I didn't ask for child abuse, but I can talk to someone who's
been abused and, and give them some hope, give them some help. You see what I mean?
Yeah. I mean, yes, I do. But, you know, again, it's, it's one of those things
where, you know, this is, this is, this is an ongoing inner conversation I've had
for a long time, just in that, in that context of, you know, because the
experience, you know, I can't, I can't, I can't say I've had any, you know, really
bad life experiences because I've had a, you know, I would, I would consider an
incredibly blessed life. My experience, you know, had to do with the fact that in
Christian ministry for 37 years, almost 40 years, and, but, you know, when you're,
when you're in ministry, of course, you're never, you're not doing it for the
money and you're not, you're definitely getting paid not for the money, right?
And, and then.
lost everything back in 08 with the crash, so had to redefine how to receive the Lord's
blessing that was going to in some way try and recover what I had lost, right?
So that's the journey we've been on, and that's the journey we're seeing incredible growth
and blessing through.
But that's the story.
The story was, you know, the fact of the matter is that I didn't prepare for the eventuality
that you could lose everything.
Sure.
All right.
I think we're on to something.
Hold on a second here.
Okay, so he doesn't always let me ask your question for you, but he did.
And so let's try this on for size.
I'm pretty excited about it, but let's see.
You got to be excited about us, not about me.
I help early seniors redefine after loss.
Yeah, absolutely.
Because that's what I got in prayer.
As soon as you said that word, redefine, it just kind of popped, and it just got popped
out like, I haven't had anything great, you know, you're right.
And a lot of times that thing you struggle with the most is the thing God's calling you
to master.
So for me, I have had so many examples of not hearing his voice or hearing it incorrectly.
So many times where I was sure he wanted me to invest in this thing, or buy this thing,
or give this thing, or do this thing, or tell my wife this thing, and it turned out none
of them.
No, no, not true.
And so I relentlessly pursued being able to hear his voice, but I had a lot of challenges.
And you know, it's not just Ezekiel 14, 2 through 5, but it's also Proverbs 18, 1.
I've read Proverbs 18, 1, my Bible's out there.
Well, I guess I'll find it for you.
I've read Proverbs.
I mean, I read a proverb every day, and I have for a year and a half.
And I have read this proverb, and for this one, not that I always like this, but the
King James Version is better.
Through desire, a man having separated himself, seeketh and intermeddleth with all wisdom.
Okay, so that means what I desire, I can desire something and get an incorrect answer from
what I think is the Lord is actually coming from me.
And so that's Ezekiel 14, 2 through 5.
Those who come to me with idols in their heart, I'm going to answer them according to the
idols in their heart.
I've read Proverbs 18, I mean, I don't know, I mean, every month or year and a half, you
know, 16 or however many times that is, 18.
And at least that, that's just on my routine, but I've also read them in addition.
And so probably safe to say, 25 times, I have never gotten that meaning.
And so that theme, so the fact that you're struggling with this makes me think even more
that this is it, that this is what he's calling you to really understand and to really master.
And so here's your next step.
And I know I don't deliver quick answers as best as I try, I know.
And so here's for you, all right, I help early seniors redefine after loss.
I want you for you, I want the next step, you already have a piece of the why listen
to me, because you went through it.
Okay, but I want you to work on the how I want you that if someone comes to you, because
after loss is a big category, it's, you know, that could be a lost one, lost money, lost
a career job, it could be a lot of things.
And so I want you to start working on what would be the deliverable of how you help them?
Is that a seven step process?
Is it a three step blueprint?
Is it a four exercises?
What is that thing?
And so as we build all of you,
as we build your brand and influence,
and which will not contain,
it's not gonna be,
I help early redefiners after loss
by showing them an amazing opportunity.
You know, like, no, we're not gonna cheapen this.
So this is, you're gonna have hundreds of thousands
of followers that may never join your deal,
but anything you do is gonna get highly promoted
and highly favored.
And so I want you,
that's your next step is work on that how.
How would, if I come to you and I'm like,
yeah, man, I'm an early, early senior, man.
I just lost, you know, this.
Okay, what would be your tried and true steps?
Okay, I got four steps for you.
I got seven steps for you.
I got 21 steps for you, whatever.
You know, and we may tweak this to where it's not steps,
but it's a blueprint or it's a system or it's a process
or it's a whatever, all those different words, right?
But that would be your next step.
But I would own that.
So now when I'm creating content, I'm gonna ask,
is this helping early seniors redefine after loss
or is it not?
Because if it's not,
maybe this isn't serving me and my brand.
Does that make sense?
Is that a good first step?
Yep, yep.
No, I appreciate that.
Yeah, awesome.
That's exciting.
It just popped.
You said redefine.
I'm like, yes, yes and amen.
Amen.
All right.
All right, let's go to, is Miranda available now?
You can see why I didn't like hardcore promote
the sales and mentorship program.
I knew it would be,
if we got 80 people on here,
we're gonna be here for three days.
She's back, right?
Okay.
Where is she?
Oh, there she is.
All right.
Okay.
Hi.
So we know how to use Zoom, we promise.
Yeah.
And not be annoying at the same time.
So yeah, so talk to me.
So the goal here is to get you your next step,
not solve all things, right?
But what's the next step, okay?
And so where do you feel we could dial in your next step?
Or where do you think that,
what's the thing that's maybe holding you back right now?
Well, the thing that has been the problem
that I've attempted to solve multiple times.
I've actually hired a couple of different companies
to try to help me build a good funnel and follow-up system.
And so I don't have, basically all the business I've done,
the 2000 people in six years has been referrals,
and people just like a little bit of organic social media,
just by sharing people's testimonies,
sharing what we do,
and then people getting curious and asking what it is.
And probably those,
15% of people that whatever it is, I need it.
Right now people acting on it.
So I need a good active funnel.
I've got my websites pulled up
if you want me to share screen of what I have.
So I, and then honing in price point.
But the truest question is,
do I move to completely faith forward?
And that's, because I already have,
I've spent a lot in branding and things like this.
I feel like there's an inner,
like a logical resistance,
because I've invested all of this,
but do I continue to keep the Reset with Miranda brand
with where I'm going?
Because last year at this time, he gave me Reset on the Rock
and one of the reasons why I wanted to shift away
from Reset with Miranda is because if I hire other coaches,
which I've coached other coaches
and functional medicine practitioners,
like I've got people who want to partner with me,
but like it has my name on it.
So it takes away, they have to work underneath my name,
not we all work in the same,
like for the same company.
So like there's a model called Faster Way to Fat Loss.
I don't know if you're familiar with that,
but they offer like a certification program
and it's essentially network marketing,
which is kind of my background.
So my goal is because we've grown organically
with people just sharing their stories
and I was a stay at home mom
and a teacher turned functional medicine practitioner.
I know that I was able to help people
without having all of that.
So, and I've had more, some of my clients refer more people and make more an affiliate
pay than some of the practitioners who were actually spending money to build websites,
to do all of that stuff, because they didn't have their knowledge as a barrier.
They just had the fire to, to help people.
And so, um, yeah, so the next step is like, if I'm going to build a funnel for the products
and services that I have in place, how do I transition to reset on the rock or do I,
or what's the, what's the, what's the next step because we've kind of, we've hit a bump
in the road.
Um, all right, let me jump in.
All right.
So two, two quick things first, um, one is, um, there's, there's typically two types of
funnel people.
There's the person that can create your, sometimes they're all in one rare, um, but there's two
types of funnel people.
There's like the person, I don't even know if I call them both funnel people.
All right.
Most funnel people, I will build you a funnel, are clueless about copywriting, creativity,
conversions, and anything salesy.
They just, they're the engineer, they're the designer, they're the, tell me what to put
on it.
Right.
And then there's the other person that is very necessary that does the sales copy.
They know that if you do a yellow button, it's 15% better opt-in they, you know, they'll
write the headline, the sub headline, the call to action, right.
They're usually not the same person usually.
Um, and so a lot of times people get frustrated with funnels cause they keep buying designers,
but they're hoping for strategists.
They keep buying the tactic, but they're hoping for strategy and the tactic ain't gonna get
you the strategy.
And, and so, and strategy is always a bigger investment.
Someone who can just do a funnel, you know, you can get on fiber and someone on fiber
can do it.
Ain't gonna be great, but it'll be a funnel, right?
So strategy, like I, we paid for one sales page, I paid $20,000 for someone, uh, to do
the copy, just the copy, just the, he didn't even create the funnel because the funnel
is very, you know, it's not that expensive to have a funnel done.
Um, but for him to write compelling sales copy, that's going to work.
That's a skill.
And, um, okay.
So first of all, number two is we always want to be careful of what's our, you know, I'll
give you an example.
So the, one of the areas that I had heart issues around was eating and I know what it
comes from.
It comes from being starved as a kid.
I used to go to bed at night, dreaming of eating.
And so I, I've been for the last, um, I don't know, six, eight months, maybe 10, no, probably
six or eight months, uh, maybe not that long now that I think about it, maybe five or six
months.
And, um, I don't eat anything or drink anything unless I get a green light from God.
So I'm like, all right, should I eat this?
What should I order?
So I look at the menu and I'm just like, all right, Lord, that one.
Okay.
And, and so, um, and I'm down, I'm, I'm, I weigh less than I did in high school.
And, and so, um, where I've been screwed up because of idols in my heart is, uh, in that
whole, my, you know, cause for me eating equals freedom or in the past eating equal
freedom.
And so, um, you know, I'm free, so I'm going to eat cause that's how I felt as a kid.
Right.
And, and so, um, I felt he had given me the green light on dark chocolate, peanuts and
protein bars.
And so I had a stockpile, man, you know, like a whole bunch of dark chocolate, peanuts and
protein bars.
And I eat those whenever, whenever, you know, cause I thought I'd gotten a green light on
it.
And then as I learned more and more and more about heart issues and hearing from him, I
learned no go.
And so I took all of that and threw it away.
Right.
And it did pay me a little bit cause I am very frugal and, but I took all of that, threw
it away.
And so we, we want to be careful of what are we holding on to that once we know it's not
serving of God needs to be toast.
And so I'm not saying to throw away all your branding and everything.
I don't, we don't know that that's the answer, but if, if he tells me, Hey, Ray, don't ever
call it faith over fear again, that brand's gone.
I ain't ever calling it cause I'm staying.
I want to stay in step with the spirit.
I want him to lead my life.
I don't, I don't want Ray to lead his life, but I would say, but I got banners and I got
people like it.
And I got swag and I got.
this, I don't give a rat. If he's telling me to get rid of that, then he's going to cover it,
he's going to provide, he's going to help me out. That's all I need. And so, you know, putting God
first is actually, you know, getting in a relationship with him and have him drive that.
So that's the two things I want to cover, you know, kind of firstly.
Let me ask if he's going to let me pray about this. All right, let me ask.
Okay.
Okay. So he wants to talk to you about your brand. He doesn't want me to dictate that. So let me,
he doesn't want me to talk about the funnel. So
the, so a funnel, similar to what I was saying through gone is, you know, the funnel is what
is that quick caffeine thing? What is that, that, you know, one step? What is that three secrets?
What is that? What is that thing that's going to be highly valuable that I'm at least willing
to trade my information for? And, you know, and like I've, you know, is it a script? Is it
a meal plan? Is it a, you know, whatever you won't let me ask about being faith forward.
He wants you, he wants, so you got to get with him on that.
Yes, I know.
I have a couple of things that I could show you that are existing, that I don't have a funnel
built around cause they're new. So I think I shared when I was there. So I have, this is my
basic website and I have, what is a one-year program? I'm not seeing your screen. Oh,
I'm sorry. You're not seeing my screen. You're right. It helps if you can see,
I'm just literally scrolling through it and you can't see it. Okay. So I have my website,
which is basically just, you know, selling the main, the main program, not necessarily a funnel
page, but selling, selling my main one-year program and all the contents. And so I have,
I have it all like custom built out. It's all warehoused and mass. I can sell it all out.
So I've played around with price point of selling it at 1997 cause I can separate the
first eight weeks where people lose 20 to 20 to 40 pounds typically. And it's like the foundational
bit. I'm sorry, you're not looking at anything valuable there. Or the whole one or the whole
one-year program at once, which I know people need. So I have played around with selling that
first little bit, which is the foundational bit and then upgrading into that. And then
recently I just built my $97 membership program. So it kind of gives them like you said, like that
five, like, so for me, my five-step method, the reset method would be that quick grab.
So this is my $97 a month where they get the, this, this quick start guide is 10 minutes and
10 pages to trans to transform your life. It literally gives them the upper level view of this
one-way coaching 30 minutes a week and like a group to do that. So I could also market just
this quick start guide. It exists already like sans coaching as the quick grab or even, or even
the course. Cause there's, I have a course that's basically getting started and then a one video for
each of the letters to explain what each of the letters are and, and what to do and how to use
the guide. So there's multi things that are already in existence. I also have all my cookbook
collection. I've got four cookbooks, like a freebie. So I'm just showing you a little bit of what I
already have in play and how do I, how do I get in front of a lot of people and move them through it?
Yeah. So the question with how do I get in front of a lot of people, right? So, you know, when you,
when you think about like some, some people that don't make any sales and don't get any leads,
they're like, I just need a funnel while I funnel funnels. You know, if it's, if it's not raining
outside, we don't, we don't need a phone. You know, we, we need some rain, you know? And so
like if someone's not getting leads, if someone's not getting any sales, they don't, they don't need
a funnel. They need to have some fundamentals of how to reach out to people and, you know,
that sort of stuff. You're obviously getting sales. You know, so you'll understand, you know,
when you look, when you look at a funnel, it's you, like, if I, if I look at my, my total email
database.
is probably, I mean, from all of these years,
is probably around 400,000 people.
If I had to guess how many of them actually spent something
and bought something, it's, I mean, probably 15% maybe.
And, but I've had people, like I'll,
I'm trying to keep this as concise as possible
because I know we got more people here.
So, but I've had people that have never bought anything,
but shared my thing with someone who spent $100,000.
And so there's value, right?
There's value in all of these leads, right?
Not all of them, but there's value in,
just assume that there's a value associated with a lead.
And so when we think about, you know, a funnel,
we want something that what's gonna cast a big net,
and then they will self-select down to the 2,000
or 10,000 or 50,000 or whatever, you know, option, right?
And so, but the, you know, and so I do,
I do think the results guide could be a good option.
And you, and I would test it, by the way,
I would test it and you'd be surprised
at what this kind of stuff does,
but I would test it at, test it for free,
but also test it for seven bucks, just for kicks.
And, and so how to make something like that
really effective, it's probably digital, I assume.
So I would print it out.
And so the video would be like,
I got a cookbook here, like flipping through it.
So, so the video would be like, hey guys, Miranda here.
And let me tell you about this guide, this guide right here.
So it's actually called anchoring.
You're actually anchoring this object
and making it more desirable.
This guide right here is the absolute key
for you to have real results, real fast.
And it walks you right through.
In fact, on page 17, you're going to see my wonderful
daughter who has drawn things.
I didn't know that.
And so, but you know, you can do what's called open loops
and open loops are, you know, things that you say on page 17
I get into a meal hack that you have never heard before.
That right there is going to completely change
every restaurant you ever go to.
Is it open loop?
I'm not, I'm not completing the loop.
I'm not telling you everything there is to know about it.
You're not walking away complete.
You're like, holy crap, I want to know that.
What is that?
And you'll have people get it just
and they'll quickly go to page 17
to learn whatever that is, right?
And so, you know, doing that kind of thing.
So, you know, you could, you know, test it
as far as mechanics.
I mean, I have a guy that we use
that could do your funnel for you, but you know,
he's not going to come in knowing everything
there is to know about your business, right?
You know, you have to look at, okay, what's the big headline?
You know, would you like to get real results real fast
in your weight loss or whatever, you know, your terms are?
I don't know your, I don't know the exact terms
but it needs, it's a deliverable.
It's a, you know, quick hit.
And what's not enough is it's not enough
to just have a call to action at the end of this
because I'm, especially if you give it for free,
99% of people won't read it.
Right.
They just won't.
I remember, you know, Russell Brunson, he had a CD.
I think it was a DVD.
He had a DVD many years ago and they sold for 30 bucks.
They sold 3000 of these DVDs.
And this one lady, she responded and she said,
hey, there's nothing on the DVD.
And they're like, oh, okay, you must've got a bad one.
So they sent her another one and she calls back.
Hey, there's nothing on this DVD.
Turns out there was nothing on any of them.
She was the only one that played it.
They tested it.
Yeah.
They weren't testing it.
They didn't do, this was unintentional.
Oh, it was unintentional?
Wow.
They didn't mean that.
And then they were like, oh my God,
no one else even tried to play it?
Like, what the hell?
Like, but that's human nature.
We get this dopamine hit when we buy,
but you know, I got it, I got it, right?
I joined the mastermind, I did this, right?
But it's about to showing up.
And so it's not enough for you to just have a call to action
at the end of this thing.
You do have a call to action of saying, hey, by the way,
and also a good giveaway is, and I know, you know,
we're in the big boy, you know, meeting here.
Okay, guys.
And so the appropriate kind of giveaway
is something that tells them what to do, not how to do it.
What to do, not how.
Because the reality is, it's going to be a rare day that you meet someone that comes
to you and says, I downloaded your free PDF.
And that's all I did.
And it changed my life.
When there's no skin in the game, when there's when there's no ongoing program, like you
said it, they need your your plan, they need it.
And so like, you know, even you know, all the people at faith or fear, they had a blast,
they were in power, they're pumped up.
If we didn't get them into a program, 99% of them have the exact same life they had
before faith or fear.
That's just a fact.
I mean, it's unfortunate.
I wish it wasn't that way.
I wish I could like, put a microchip on them or you know, inject them with something like
I wish there was something I could do.
They got some Holy Spirit heroin, they got they got they got a lick, right, and it felt
nice until the next lick, right, but they they aren't changing their life because no
one's walking them through it and discipling them and guiding them mentoring them.
And so the chance of them changing anything is just very unfortunately low.
And so we have to fight for them.
We have to fight for them to, you know, to change their life.
And so when they opt in for this, or they purchase it for seven bucks or whatever, it's
like, hey, you know, you got the guide, you're definitely gonna love that guide.
And what I found is most people need help.
Most people need help with this thing.
And, you know, and with mentorship and discipleship, we know we can get you to your your dream.
And so here's your options, we either have a self, you know, self done course, if you're
someone that's self driven, and you're highly motivated, and you're responsible, and you're,
you know, then then, hey, that may work for you, or we have this other option.
So that has to be immediately after they get the thing.
And so I would say your, your next step before, you know, you do quote, the funnel is, you
know, what, what is what is the headline?
What are the bullets, like I would come up with, you know, what, what is going to speak
to someone and say, Oh, I need that.
So we always want, you know, if our who sees our how it's irresistible.
And so how, how, what language would make this irresistible, and when you have that,
then I would go to, you know, I can introduce you to my guy or, or whatever, I mean,
what's coming to me because on the on the, it's 10 pages, just to make it super concise
10 minutes, 10 pages, 10 minutes, or $10, like so $10, 10 minutes, 10 pages of transformation
using the reset method, because it's just helping people understand that real food is
truly the only way to create health, and helping them come to that.
And so, so we're always selling the transformation, not the transaction, right?
So people, you know, they, they, if you if you just tell them what it is, we need to
tell them what it does, right?
This guide alone will help you with this, you know, help you understand all right.
And so we got to tell them, what does it do?
So we have to dream a little and say, Okay, if someone goes through these 10 pages, and
they absolutely execute everything, and they do everything properly, what could that do
for them?
It's not a guarantee.
But what does, what would this do if you actually practice this and did this, because we're
selling the transformation, people exchange their information is seven bucks, 10 bucks
or whatever, or transformation.
But when we boil it to it is a 10 page book, it'll take, you know, then it's like, maybe
it's not that great.
You know, but if we paint, we got to paint, you know, the picture.
Yeah.
Pleasure Island.
We're not selling the plane.
We're selling Pleasure Island.
Right?
Yeah.
That help is the next step.
I've got it.
I've got it in motion.
I could put a Facebook post out today and ask who wants it, you know, and you know,
DM people.
I'll tell you, I'll tell you one thing that's working like crazy and you don't have to have
a funnel.
What's working like crazy.
I can't believe how good this is working is, you know, go and you have to be a content
creator for this to work.
If you're not creating any content, this probably isn't going to work because people probably
aren't following you.
I'm not saying for you, but I'm saying anyone on here.
And so what's been working like crazy is when I go to my stories and just say, hi guys.
Some of you said you're struggling with follow-up.
I have a video that shows you exactly what to do.
Drop the word follow-up.
I mean, I'm lots and lots of people and then I just deliver them the link.
And so, you know, when you have a funnel, you can build follow-up in when you don't,
you know, you would just, you would have to be the follow-upper, you know, so it may or
may not.
be depending on your time. It may or may not be the time to go
to your audience and do that. If you don't have the time to
follow up and steward who reaches out. Yeah. And so
that's, that's what I know. That's I've seen this many times
and many clients and myself is if I don't steward, what's going
to happen next? God doesn't really bless it. Right? Right.
He wants you, he wants you to be a good steward. Like if he's
gonna, if he's gonna, you know, flip the switch and turn on the
faucet, like, are you able to handle that amount of leads?
And, and, you know, and actually work with them and help them.
Yeah, I think that and I'm right now I'm my funnel person. So I'm
running my whole website and created it all. So it wouldn't
take me very long to create a sales page in order to deliver
that. And if you want me to look at that when it's done, you
know, it just needs a you're not pitching. You know, your big
program is all focused. This is the this is literally the
greatest thing ever. You got to get this. This is the one key
that you need. And and that's what you have to do to get them
to want that. Then you take them through to the next steps.
Okay, awesome.
All right. Awesome.
All right, Leslie, you want to you want to chat? How we doing?
I'm well, how are you?
Good. Good.
So we're taking it all in.
Yeah, it's a lot. It's a lot. Where, where would you say is
maybe your number one stumbling block right now? I think in, you
know, just this being our first meeting for this particular
thing? I think that's probably the best question is like,
where's the number one place that you're feeling a little
stuck, then we can get some movement.
I'm just I'm just trying to figure out without being
transactional, how I get the products that I promote, to tie
in with how that helps women. I know how it helps me.
Growing my it brought me out of my shell. Like I don't talk. You
know, I said, I don't talk. I'm talking. I'm, I'm getting out
there on live a little bit. It's getting better every day. It's
helping me with my self confidence and how I feel.
When you say it, you mean your product?
Well, the products ultimately, but the experience of how that
came to be, like going and joining the communities and
getting involved with people that I didn't know people care
as much as these people that, you know, that care about me
now, from the makeup to the skincare to faith over fear,
like I didn't know there was such kind people in the world.
That just hasn't been my world. So the and I swear that I was
directed to these things that I didn't come up with this on my
own. They came in my face, and I jumped on them like, like, like,
I don't even know what to say. I just pulled the trigger didn't
even think about it pulled the trigger. Something sent me
there. Yeah, that's exactly how it happened with faith over
fear. Brianna said, you know, who wants to go and I was like,
no thought. I'm going. That's it. And I dragged Nikki, you're
going to we both need this. That's it. So there's a reason
these things all happened within the last two years. And it's
literally changed everything for me. But I don't know how to. I
don't know how to not sound salesy when I'm doing makeup,
and skincare and women are suffering. Like I don't know how
to tie together, you will feel better. Sure, with what I've
experienced. Yeah, so that's really what I'm struggling with.
Because I don't want to sound salesy and icky.
Yeah. And so as long as you have the product so forward, it's,
it's, you know, you can't help it, it's going to be salesy and
icky. And so I'm trying to think of some different
examples, and keep it concise as well. But so let's say like, if
if I were taking this on, okay. And I look at the difference in
me, okay. So I might I might say, I help women, I'm just
throwing this out there. Okay. I help women increase their self
confidence while expanding their world. Okay, how do I do that? I
have, I have a seven step process. I keeps using seven
doesn't have to be seven, just an example. But I have a seven
step process that
will help you feel better about yourself and open you up to real techniques that work.
Okay. Why should they listen to me? Because I was once, uh, you know, very introverted.
I struggled with self-confidence. And once I discovered these processes,
my world has completely changed. I am loved more than I even more than I ever knew.
And I love to show you how to do that too.
Mm-hmm. And, and I also like to come at it from an angle that I'm not a certified life coach.
I'm just me, you know, for the people that don't want therapy or don't want that, whatever. I just,
I'm just want to share what I learned from these people that I really think that you can apply
to your own life. And so we look at these seven steps, the details of the seven steps,
right? Yeah. So one of them might be, and remember a power, a powerful process to make
them want to connect with you and learn more. All right. Is to, you know, tell them what to
do, not necessarily how to do it. And, and so we don't, we don't have to fill in all,
all the things, depending on how you're using this. If it was like a giveaway,
like Miranda was talking about, then, you know, it's concise what to do.
They're not going to do it. They just, they just aren't. Most people aren't.
But, you know, like one of them could be, find yourself a powerful community.
You know when did you join this company?
One I joined two years ago and the other one I just joined in July.
Okay. So step number one of seven, find yourself a great community.
Uh, two years ago, my life was changed when I found a great community and, uh, and this
is something that just, I never had any idea of how much people could care. And the community
that I'm part of is so loving, so kind. So find yourself a good community. I think about that.
Can I really take action from that? Or am I more interested in what community did you find?
Mm hmm.
You see what I mean? Number two, find yourself great products that make you feel and look great.
And so I found some products that have really helped me. Um, they are whatever Korean based
and they're this and they're that, and they're this and that, um, you may already have products
or maybe there's a different products for you. Um, but you, when you start just feeling better,
have you ever seen, uh, when someone gets a makeover and you just see their confidence
increase, you ever see someone get good professional photos and they just, they just
kind of walk taller, don't they? We'll find some products that's going to make you feel that way.
So I don't even have to say the products they want to know what community am I in and what
products am I using? Right. You see what I mean? I keep getting pushed. I keep getting pushed to
the call to action. You have to tell them here's my link. Here's my link. And I'm like,
instead of here's my link, say, here's me reach out to me. I would love to connect with you and
help you with any of these steps. Right? So the same psychology works, whether you're selling
$2,000, $10,000, 50,000, or selling your network marketing product, same, same psychology works.
And so, Hey guys, um, you know, thanks for getting the seven steps. I hope they're really
valuable. If you have any questions around that, if I can help you in any way, let me know,
reach out to me. Um, you know, and that, and that's it, but you're, you're, you're doing this
to expand your brand, to expand your reach, to get more leads. And so I would say, um,
you know, take, take this information, continue to work on the, the, the, who, the, who, how
you already said some of why list, why they should listen to you. But I would just keep
digging into that because once you have that, everything's easier because you just operate
from that mantle. This is like that fundamental, the basketball thing. Right? So once you have
that fundamental, now we can get fancy, we can get more strategic and cooler and whatever,
but we need that fundamental first, or else we're going to keep going in circles.
Got it. Makes sense. It helped a lot. Yep. Makes sense. Thank you. Awesome. Thank you.
Okay. All right. Let's do it. All right. So we got,
so can we do Sarah, are you available? You're off camera. Are you able, you want to chat or
Hey, sorry, I'm at work, but, um, you can chat in between just if somebody comes up, I have to,
I have to welcome him into the building. So just so you know, if I start saying, you know,
hi, how are you? Probably not towards you. It's somebody walking past me.
Cool. Um, so where would you say you feel the most Leslie is okay. You're what? Say that again.
I'm probably in the most the same place as Leslie is trying to figure out how do you
take that product and it not be just in your face about the product.
Yeah.
So I'm in travel.
So I sure was a lot about traveling.
Yeah.
And so one question is, what does my service do for people other than save money or whatever?
So there's lots of studies on this, you know, traveling reduces stress, vacationing more
improves marriages, creates you create more memories.
In fact, I used to I used to I had a lot of travel stuff.
I had point click trip.com it's pretty good.
I create more memories.com I have a few others, but it's, you know, it's not what is it right
now travel it's kind of built in that people associate travel most people associate travel
with, you know, fun and Caribbean or whatever they prefer.
And so it can be about travel.
It can't be about your particular travel program.
You get the difference?
So it can it can be I you know, I can pose like it can't be the seven reasons why you
should join this company.
I mean, you could do a video like that, but that's not a mantle, right?
That's just it's just that's fleeting.
It's not it's not substantial enough, but you could have, you know, seven steps to save
on travel.
And one of the steps is find yourself a great travel program.
I found one and it saved me all kinds of money, you know, but there's lots of them out there,
you know, reach out to me if I can help you with that.
See, I don't even have to mention the name of the company.
But I would get a lot of people that are interested in travel.
So it can be about travel.
You know, it can be about makeup.
It can be about skin care.
What it can't be is about your product, because then it's like, oh, I see, they're just selling
their product.
Got it.
It has to like, here's the question of value.
Value is, do I gain whether I purchase or not?
So if my only gain is if I buy your thing, that's not very valuable.
And I'm not saying not to have a sales video from time to time or not to do a Black Friday
talk or whatever, like, you know, you could do those things.
But what's the main driver of my content?
What's the main driver of my social media engine?
And it needs to be value based if I'm to grow a following.
And if I grow a following, then life is just easier.
You know, we're unable to, even if we come up with a dumb idea that's not that great,
it's going to make some money.
We press a button, emails out, someone's going to buy it, you know, and versus I could have
a great idea, have no following and just be like, oh, man, I can't, I can't get anyone
to even look at it.
And so it's always an advantage to have a bigger brand, more influence.
And you gain that by providing more value.
You know, like my good buddy, I've known him for 20 some years, Gary Brekka, he was on
Joe Rogan.
He's been on everything.
He personally consults Dana White, he, I don't even list all the celebrities, he does all
these different celebrities, the Prince of something, paid him 25 grand for an hour to
come over and talk with him.
Like he is amazing.
Why is he amazing?
Not just because he's mega smart.
Okay.
But also because he has provided so much free value for so long, I mean, years of just,
you know, he is, he has a photographic memory, he will read a medical journal, and he will
be able to turn it into analogies that anyone can understand within a minute, like he's
next level brain.
And but he's, he's, he, the reason he is so popular, the reason he has so many paying
clients is because he's provided so much value.
He's talked about so many things for free.
And he has this podcast, he has all this, you know, different things.
And, and so how do we become that, you know, Gary of travel, if that's what we're called
to do?
Now, you could you could travel, could could it may not travel may not be your mantle.
It could be marriages, you could literally build the heck out of a travel network marketing
company by talking about marriages, and how travel helps, because the more things you
do together, the better, the closer you get.
And I even give you a plan on when you're in Tahiti, you know, here are the seven most
romantic
romantic things to do, right?
And so it's okay if it is about travel,
it's not okay if it's all about your product.
Does that make sense?
Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
And so I would ask what has been,
and this is a problem I've seen in travel,
is some people are in a travel company
because they see that people like to travel,
it's a lucrative industry, but they never travel.
And so that can be tough,
because at the end of the day,
you wanna ask yourself, what has travel done for me?
How has it helped me?
Because that's probably gonna point you
to what would be a good who to communicate with.
Go ahead.
Hey, how are you?
Good.
Okay.
Sorry.
Yep, you can leave that there, yep.
I had one client that used to work in the Pentagon
and she used to hide in a closet with earbuds.
And so she wasn't supposed to be on, apparently.
And so yeah, no worries.
And so what would you say is the number,
like what's the number one thing
that travel has done for you?
So it's brought me out of my shell for one.
It's also like, we talked about this on Voxer,
is like I was a lost person.
Like I really was just a mom and a wife
and I didn't know who I was outside of that.
So it just, it has, I've been able to travel solo.
I travel with my husband too and my kids now.
But it's just brought me out of,
I figured out who I was versus just being,
like I'm not just Joe's wife anymore.
I'm not just my kid's mom anymore.
Like I'm Sarah and I haven't been Sarah for a long time.
So.
I like that, I like that.
So that's kind of, and we do travel a lot, so.
Nice.
So first of all, I just want to step back for a second.
All of you that I haven't gotten to yet,
I hope you're paying attention
because there's processes here, there's procedures here,
there's systems here.
You should be learning with every single person
just so you know, because I know I go long.
I mean, I don't, I want to give you all I got
and help you the best I can.
So, all right, let me, I got that I could,
hold on a second.
Okay, so I get you shouldn't lead with travel.
That's what you should lead with.
You should lead with how to get out of your shell
and not just be a mom or a wife.
Now, use travel images, you know,
you know, use travel images in your marketing,
but don't talk about travel is what I'm getting at.
What am I?
Oh my gosh, I'm learning so much.
This is deep marketing psychology here for sure.
It's amazing, I can't even write fast enough.
I'm so excited we get to watch the replay.
Yeah.
So grateful, thank you.
Of course, of course.
I fly out to Cedar Rapids, Iowa tonight.
God nudged me to go pray for a client
having some health issues.
That's awesome, I heard you say that
on your live this morning.
Yeah.
Hopefully it's not too cold.
I hear it's 49, so that's definitely doable.
That's yeah, that's not bad.
Yeah, that's not bad.
I'm glad you're here.
It's definitely doable.
That's yeah, that's not bad.
As a previous Minnesota girl, I'm just like,
Yeah.
Win or no go.
Okay.
I'm gonna give her the action step hopefully.
Then we got, we got, we got Jean and Jeremy.
You guys have been so patient,
but I hope you've been learning.
We may also have Jerry who messaged me elsewhere
saying he's been on the whole time, but I don't see him.
So he's been hearing this, but not showing up.
So he's gonna try to leave and come back.
Okay.
Hey, I'm sorry.
No problem.
So here's your, here's your homework.
Okay.
Is.
I want you to think about this concept of who do I help,
which I get is, I think it's very powerful how you said it.
I was no longer Joe's mom.
I think you said Joe.
I was no longer-
Joe's wife.
Oh, wife, I'm sorry.
I was no longer Joe's wife.
I was no longer the mom.
I was, you know, and I think that's really powerful.
You know how we, because marketing isn't,
let me come up with the coolest word to use.
It's like what resonates with us.
So like when, you know, two, maybe three weeks ago,
God gave me the new tagline of,
I help business owners increase their profits
while putting God first.
I was just so excited.
I'm like, Ooh, you know, like that, that just fired me up.
I just thought that was so cool, you know,
cause that combines the two things that I just really love.
Like, that's awesome.
I love helping people in business
cause they're ambitious, they're making a difference.
They're changing the world.
Love that.
I also love helping people create a relationship with God.
Right?
And so that just, ah, it just got me so excited.
And so I would just work through that.
Who do I help?
How do I help them?
And don't, I'm getting that you should not mention travel
during the thing.
And, and so, you know, mention that you, you know,
now, by the way, would one of the steps be travel more?
Of course, of course, right?
You're definitely going to allude to,
Hey, I have a travel program, helps you travel, save money.
You know, you should be traveling.
Here's how it changed my life.
You know, that, that sort of thing.
And so is that, so do your best on the, the, you know,
who do I, who do I help?
Which I feel like I've helped you with.
How do I help them?
Why should they listen to me?
Which you've kind of shared some of that,
but let's, let's dial that in.
And because you're in the mastermind,
you can just hit me and I don't have to wait
for the next call.
Just hit me on Voxer.
Cool.
Yeah, thanks.
All right.
And again, I hope, I hope you guys are learning.
Let me go.
We're going to go Jeremy, Jean, Jerry.
Let's go, Jeremy.
So come, come to me and I, and let's say what is,
this is the number one place I'm, I'm feeling stuck.
So I can move, move you forward.
Yeah.
Appreciate that.
We, Miranda and I hired a friend of mine that was,
she does social media, chat GPT,
helps you kind of build, teach chat GPT,
your voice and your tone and your cadence
and all that stuff.
And she's gave me a list of 67 different prompt questions
to maybe answer 10 or 12, 15 of them, whatever.
And everyone was like, three things about your niche,
three things about this, three things about that.
And I, I messaged her back.
I said, I don't give a rip about my niche.
Like, I want to tell people about the Lord.
Like, that's really what's stirring me.
And so I'm in a place, Ray, in my business where,
you know, I certainly view my business as a ministry.
I love what I do.
I love the way I help people.
But like, I have zero fire underneath my butt
about the business.
I have a lot of fire about telling people about the Lord
and ministry and that kind of thing.
And so it's like, that makes me very nervous
because, you know, honestly, transparently,
like I've had next to no business coming in
for two or three months,
just because I don't really have fire in my bones
to talk to people about how to save money
and how to make money or, you know.
So, yeah.
So, you know, like a lot of people
misunderstand the Jeremiah quote and say, you know,
don't trust the heart
because it's deceitful above all things.
And that's, you know, yes, that's true for Old Testament.
It's not true once you have a new heart, right?
Jesus gives us a new heart.
And so, you know, the desires in our heart
after accepting Christ are there for a reason.
You know, he's not going to be like,
I'm going to make him desire this
and then never help him, ha ha ha, right?
Like, you know, no one, none of us would do that.
And, you know, what is it?
Matthew 7, 11, I think, you know, he's a perfect father.
Okay.
And so you can apply this to ministry.
And so it's not, hey, you better use this
for business buddy.
You know, it's, use it for whatever you want, man.
And so you can use it for ministry.
I would, you know, again, if you, you know,
build a large brand influence, et cetera,
people that aren't in your target or niche
are going to come anyway.
And, you know, and that's very powerful.
And it's like you look at Grant Cardone,
you may or may not agree with him, right?
But he started, he became to my understanding,
the number one guy that helped people in car sales.
When's the last time you heard him talk about cars?
Like I haven't heard him for a long time.
I don't obsessively follow anybody,
but I haven't heard him talk about cars in years.
He talks more about real estate.
So he kind of grew.
He became a known person in this thing.
And then he was able to transition to a larger umbrella.
It's almost like Paulson being all things to all people.
It's just kind of expanding that, growing that.
Yeah, and so I would just,
usually we look at ourselves, right?
Sarah was a perfect example.
Leslie was a perfect example.
And several, maybe all of them, maybe everyone was.
Actually, I think they were.
So we typically looking at ourselves,
what wars did God have us go through
that equipped us, anointed us, called us,
and he's leading us to go and help others with?
And so, what might that look like?
I can tell you that.
That's easy.
Church hurt, growing up as a preacher's kid,
knowing all the right things to say,
all the right things to do.
Knowing the psalm, but not knowing the shepherd,
kind of thing.
I got it, bro.
You ready?
Yeah.
I got it, dude.
All right, let me confirm this.
Oh man, this is good.
I would totally snag this from you if I didn't have ethics.
But this is so good, man.
This is so good.
You ready for this?
Sure.
This isn't from me.
He popped this in my head right away.
Let me confirm it, though.
Oh man, this is good.
You ready for this?
Yeah.
All right.
I help people
who hate church and religion get closer to God.
Come on.
That's good.
How intriguing is that?
Someone would be like, wait, what?
Because see, most people put church, religion,
same thing as God.
Like people say to me, oh, you're religious?
I'm like, well, not really.
Because it's not about rules.
And I help people who hate church and religion
get closer to God.
I mean, do you feel that?
Is that good?
Am I just high on my own supply here?
I'm going to say it's good just so you don't take it.
Man.
Somebody got to run with that.
If you don't run with this, somebody got to run
with that one.
I hear you.
I mean, it's-
In the natural, Ray, in the natural, I go,
because the lady that's helping us with the chat,
GMT, she goes, you can do that and like make a faith
to big F and finance the little F.
But I'm just telling you, like, that's the long way around.
I mean, you can eventually build a following.
You can eventually build a funnel.
You can eventually, you know, build a process
of kind of where to feed them into to get in front of them
for, you know, a financial assessment, that kind of thing.
I don't believe in, you know, if you're obeying the Lord,
I don't think anything has to be the long way around.
I think he's big enough.
I mean, that's just a lack of our understanding.
That's us thinking that we have to get them into finances.
He might not be calling you to do that.
He may be calling you to do something totally different.
Winds or trees or whatever, you know?
And so I agree, you know, the Proverbs 10, 22,
the blessing of the Lord makes one rich,
he has no sorrow with it.
And so like, he's not like, all right,
I'm gonna make it really drawn out for this one.
No, he likes speed, right?
The path of the righteous is like a highway, right?
And so I don't know that he's calling you to, you know,
to do, get them into finances,
but I think he's calling you to step into your desire
and go into that.
But I wanna just remind you of Psalm 78, 70, 72 says,
David led with a contrite heart, which you have,
and skillful hands.
We gotta have skillful hands too.
We gotta be able to craft the headline.
We gotta be able to craft the copy.
We gotta be able to craft the offer and the giveaway.
Does that make sense?
It does.
And so I would just, I would go into,
so if you don't like it, toss it, right?
Right.
But man, I think it's-
Pretty darn good, man.
But maybe there's a version of it you prefer.
But I think like, who's doing that?
That's the thing that gets me excited.
Jesse Itzler, he's the guy from,
he's married to Sarah Blakely, who used to own Spanx.
And he's just brilliant businessman, brilliant.
Built all kinds of big time companies.
He's going into the pickle industry.
Why?
Because you can't name five brands that do pickles.
Can't, right?
There's no one dominating that niche.
So he's gonna go dominate it.
And he will, because he's got the brain.
He doesn't know a damn thing about pickles,
but he'll learn that.
And so like, when there's something
that I haven't heard anyone doing,
I haven't heard anyone,
like my first sermon was about church hurt and father wounds
and because I just know that that's such a neat thing.
I don't see anyone branded helping those who are church hurt.
Anyone branded that people that hate religion,
like you're just like, oh, they hate religion.
I better not talk about God.
And what if you did?
Right.
What if you said all you that have been hurt,
let me help you out?
I had a tagline for some accounts I had
that said, I love Jesus, but I hate religion.
And that got so many questions from people.
There you go.
You're already on this path.
I mean, pray on it.
Don't take my word for it, but pray on it.
But so Don, Psalm 78, 70, 72,
is where it talks about David
and contrite heart and skillful hands.
And then the other one was Proverbs 10, 22,
blessing of the Lord.
I forget the other one about the way
of the path of the righteous.
I forget where that one is.
And so I would just, let's pretend just for kicks,
you know, just for kicks,
let's pretend there is no finance component, right?
You know, that's just, you know, we're just separating,
you know, cause it's like, well, I want to include this too.
You know, I want to, I want this too.
Right.
Let's just assume gone.
Right.
Just for now, just for kicks.
We could always come back and pick it up.
You know, it's like Moses, what's in your hand,
throw it down.
Right.
You know, and let me admit Rebecca,
she somehow got kicked off.
And so work on that premise of what,
if it is in your heart ministry led,
maybe you have a better tagline than the one I gave you.
And okay, if that's established,
then how will you help them?
Is it breaking the bonds of religion
and helping you have a relationship
with your heavenly father?
Like, you know, it's going to be something around that,
but that's because once you have the mantle,
this is what people need to understand.
Is not every step is this laborious, right?
It's not this difficult because once you have the mantle,
everything is easier.
All your content becomes easier
because you have a North star.
You have a, okay, yeah, we're under this mantle.
Yeah.
We're just, let's hear it.
And so it's, it's, it takes some thought
because what if you get the wrong one?
What if you get one that just sucks
and you don't even like, it's like every piece of content
is like, I'm Jeremy, you know, like it just sucks.
And so, but when you get that one
that God's already anointed you to run with
and be number one in the world about,
then, you know, you, you just, you run like fireman.
And so like, I would take, take what we've talked about
and dial it in and those three questions.
Thank you, brother.
Yeah.
Rooting for you, man.
Rooting for you.
Thank you.
Okay.
Let me just, let me just message someone
because I may not make my three o'clock.
And let's go to Jean.
I believe Jean is next.
And then we go to Jerry.
Man, oh man, this is so good.
It is just, Jeremy, I am right there with you.
So Ray, my, my background is we were in missions
for 35 years and being in those systems
was like death to me, was like death to me.
It was just, I just did not fit.
So the Lord led me to Isaiah 43 10,
which actually saved my life.
I've made you my servant so that you would know
and believe me that I am he, there is no other God.
And so that's, so long story short,
we're not on the field anymore, but joined in MLM
and it has helped me, like Sarah said,
break free of that false identity, I suppose.
And, and
be myself. So my tagline so far is, I help women over 50 live
vivaciously in the autumn of life, regardless of the
challenges that come. And so that's physically emotional.
So let's so we want to bust this apart, right? Because everyone
wants to take the three questions and make it an I help
statement. That's just, you know, that's what people are
doing now. But it's, it's important to be intentional of
who, how, why should they listen to me? So who do you help?
Women over 50.
Okay, so typically, women over 50 is not going to be specific
enough. Typically, but we'll we'll see. Do you know how do
you have a how, how you help them?
Well, in my, my, my experience was number one, breaking free of
who everyone thought I should be, and being okay with who I
am and my relationship with God and what he calls me to do. And
physically, the products that we have, have transformed my, my
aging self. So it's anti aging stuff. So living vivaciously
regardless of the challenges that come in in aging, because
there are so many. There's so many. Okay. Or maybe
victoriously,
what would you what would you say? What would be a word? You
would define yourself as before you learned of these great
things?
I'm hopeless.
So you can read your lecture, read your I help statement.
Read that one more time.
I help women over 50 live vivaciously in the autumn of
life, regardless of the challenges that it brings.
Yeah, it's, it's. Anyway, all right. I think, let me, let me
pre on this.
How old? How old do you feel now?
40.
Okay, I'm 68.
Okay, all right.
All right, let's try this out. Some of you like my suggestion,
some of you don't. But your your I help is, to me, is, is I don't
I don't think someone's going to see that, and be like,
irresistibly compelled. Like we like, we have, we want to be
excellent in every marker, like we want, you know, every post to
be excellent. We want we want to increase our influence and
persuasion on everything that we do. So we don't want to have a
mantle that is like, like, we want like, holy moly, right?
So here, here's what I got for you. All right. And I took this
from taking. Well, we'll see if you like it. All right. So see,
here's what I got. All right. And he's, he's helping me, by
the way. So I help women over 50 have the hope and energy they
have the hope and energy they had in their 30s. See what I
did there? I took your 1820 years, subtracted it from the
50. Don, what do you think she's clapping over there? Now? It's
not
and I relate to that. Yeah, I relate to that. Like that you
you're speaking to me. So when you said that, I'm like, heck,
yeah, what else does she do? Because I might not be doing
that yet. Like, literally, yeah. So that was just your
ideal reaction. Your ideal reaction is if you're who hears
your, you know, like this, we haven't got into the hell. We
just said the who, right? Sometimes your who is so good
that it's like, that's me. Like, what do you got? Now they want
to know the how you haven't even told them the how. But it has to
resonate with you. It can't just sound good. Yeah. And that's
what a lot of people have.
I help statements that sound okay.
All right, great.
All right.
Okay.
But I want something that's irresistibly compelling
that if the who hears the how,
they're like, this is me, man.
And so-
And then I looked at her skin and I'm like,
oh, I want to look like that.
There you go.
You know, I'm like, seriously,
and I don't even know what you do,
but I'm telling you, you just radiate.
And so you tell me that and that, you know,
and I'm in that age range.
Oh my gosh.
Like, hello, I'm following you forever.
Nice.
So do you have a how that isn't,
like, I've been talking this whole time, two hours now.
Do you have a how that isn't product specific?
Not yet.
Okay.
So that's what you want to work on.
Yeah.
So work on your how.
So that's your next step.
And is it, you know, is it seven steps?
Like for me, I would, you know, I could come,
I'm not an expert on weight loss for sure,
but you know, I've lost weight.
You know, I could come up with seven steps, right?
I could say, stop drinking anything but water.
I mean, just stop it.
Stop, right?
I could have that.
That could be a step.
Now notice, they don't know my steps.
If I say I have seven steps for, you know,
rapid weight loss or whatever, they don't know the steps.
It's once they get inside,
either they reach out to me or they opt in
or they purchase something.
That's when they learn of the steps, okay?
And so I could have, do this.
Number two, put down the dessert, bro.
Like, what are you doing?
You know, this is killing you.
Literally killing you.
Like you're making it so much more difficult
by eating the dessert, stop it.
And so like, you know,
the person that's not looking to lose weight,
they're not interested in that thing,
but you know, first of all,
someone needs to tell them this.
They need to be clued in.
You know, stop being pressured.
You know, when you're at a football game or something,
you don't have to eat that crap.
You don't have to eat crap when you're on the airport
or when you're in an airplane.
When I'm in the airplane, I don't eat the damn snacks.
I know they're free.
The frugal side of me wants to eat them.
They're free.
I like free stuff.
Believe me, my wife, she cracks up at me.
She's like, what was buy one, get one today?
And I'm like, oh, check it out, man.
You know, like I like to save money.
I like it.
And so, but I'm not, I don't want to do it to my detriment.
And so anyway, so think about
what are some common practices?
Is it walking with a friend?
Is it being around younger people?
Is it drinking more water?
Is it, you know, you can come up with different steps
and you absolutely want one of the steps to say,
and by the way, it's quality products.
I have quality products that I represent.
I'm happy to share them with you.
Maybe you do, or if you don't,
I have things and I'm 68 and check her out.
You know, like, you know, that's,
so that would be your next step is come up with those.
It doesn't, I know I keep saying seven.
It doesn't have to be seven.
It can be three.
It can be 11.
It can be whatever, you know,
but it's some kind of positive thing
that if the who hears it, like in your case,
the who is so good that if you resonate with it,
of course, do you like it?
I mean, the who is so good,
they're in before you even say the how,
so it's hard to screw it up,
but you know, in the, you know, in the how, right?
That should be, that should just be a double down
of, oh my goodness, I want those seven steps.
I can't get, all right, three steps, six steps,
four fruits, whatever, you know, whatever that is.
Does that help as the next step?
Yeah, that's great.
Thanks, Ray.
And then, you know, bring that,
we will make sure, Rebecca hopefully will help me,
we'll make sure to kind of split up the order,
you know, that we've been doing these,
so, you know, maybe get to it sooner.
Does that help as the next step?
Yes, thank you.
Okay, great.
Jerry, last but not least,
and Gene, if you look in the comments,
Don's ready to sign up, whatever those steps are.
Uh-huh.
Well, a little different than the rest of you.
I was a, a little bit about me.
I was a police officer for 12 years, loved it,
was hard to get into it, but I got it.
Then I got out of police work
and went into the insurance business,
owned an insurance agency for about 30 years,
recently sold it.
Moved from Santa Rosa to Hidden Valley Lake,
which is about an hour North.
And I got involved with a company I'm with still
about nine, 10 years ago, I think.
And I was gonna just really do well
in the network marketing business and whatever.
I got cancer, beat cancer, and the bottom line is I'm at zero and want to start over.
I lack consistency.
I lack the real, um, you know, I guess focus on, on, on the business.
Uh, I'm with a really good company.
I love the company.
I love the products we have.
Uh, and I'm torn between, you know, uh, helping people health wise
or wealth wise, uh, because I know from personal experience that, you know, I
almost lost a car, uh, repossession and all that, and I know that most
people struggle huge financially.
So in, in the MLM business, you know, you can solve the two main
problems we have in life, health and wealth, and I'm not sure really
which way to go and I'm just like Rams.
I went to faith over fear.
I absolutely loved it.
I've always believed in God.
Have I ever lived or have I always lived it?
No.
Uh, but, um, I know, I know God speaking to me.
I know he wants me to go out there and help people.
And cause I've always been in the businesses of helping people, please
work in, in owning my insurance agency.
Anyway, the bottom line is I'm at ground zero.
I need some help.
I need to grow.
Yeah.
Um, all right.
So bigger now, that's pretty awesome for me to be this humble and honest, but
absolutely.
Um, so one of the, you know, the first, the first thing to changing anything
is to change the way we describe it.
And, and so I just want you to work on this takes practice.
I want you to work on anything.
That's I am any kind of personal pronoun associated to a negative
is reinforcing that identity.
And, and so let me pray about this real quick.
Okay.
All right.
Um, so let's give you your appropriate identity.
Um, all right.
What's okay.
Okay.
Hold on.
Okay.
So you, when I, when I pray about someone and I, and that's an identity thing, I
just ask, I ask God, how does, how does he see you?
And so God sees you as gentle, wise, and kind.
That's how he sees you.
I don't know you well enough to say that.
Um, but that's how God sees you.
So any kind of language that is anti gentle, wise, and kind is false.
Incorrect.
Not how, not how he sees you.
And, and so we can, so someone who's wise, if we just pick on that, someone
who's wise has the ability to, to learn and gain understanding, to improve all
the things that you've talked about.
Right.
And, and so there's a, should I have my Bible in here?
Cause I highlighted this.
Um, anyway, we don't need to go there.
Um, so this, this won't be your step.
Cause I want to give you a more tangible step, but one thing I want you to
get better at and work on is how you describe yourself.
So if I say I'm not consistent, I have disabled our helpers.
I've disabled angels from helping me and I've equipped the enemy to, to
prove to me that I'm not consistent.
You know, Proverbs 18 22, death and life is in the power of the tongue.
Those who love it will eat its fruit and fruit as a result, love is an emotion.
So whatever we say with emotion, we're literally creating.
Oh, God can't override that, but he has to have permission
and God won't get rid of a buddy.
So if I'm buddies with having an identity of being inconsistent,
God won't get rid of it.
It's our buddy because we have free will.
He's not going to rip a, he's not going to rip that away from us.
If we, by our own free will choose to have that identity that's disempowering,
but he will get rid of an enemy.
So if I declare war on inconsistency, then he will help us.
So a great prayer is father, thank you for helping me be more consistent.
And because you're wise, that will, you will gain an understanding very quickly
around probably anything that you, you pray in that manner.
Does that make sense?
And so first is being aware, being aware.
And usually it's, I mean, I don't wanna say it's impossible,
but it's almost impossible when you're on your lonesome.
You know, when you're in a group like this,
it's, you know, you'll catch it,
you'll hear me catch other people.
And so that'll be step one,
because we have to first break the identity
that I'm not this thing, you know?
And another scripture that'd be good
is 2 Corinthians 5, 17.
And that is those of you who are with Christ,
you are a new creation.
The old has passed away, the old is gone.
So the old person who is inconsistent,
they're not even around.
So that identity is gone.
We don't even know where they went, where did they go?
And so,
and so one, that's just be aware.
Now that's not a tangible step for you.
And so, let me just get past this.
So it's, I mean, we're the same, it's the same.
It's the same as everyone else,
is the first step's the first step, right?
When we're talking about sales and marketing,
we have to figure out who are we serving
and how are we doing that and why should they listen to me?
And so we can, you know,
it's interesting the order of these things,
because we can usually figure out the who
by looking at what have we been through.
And, you know, and you've, you've talked about,
you know, different financial challenges
and, you know, and things like that.
And so, you know, that can,
that is almost always gonna help us figure out the who.
And then once we figure out the who,
the how is actually, you know, it's not that difficult.
I know it's different,
because people aren't used to thinking this way,
but it's not that difficult once you have the who.
And so I heard a few different things from you.
Let me see.
I'm gonna guess I got a no on this, but hold on.
Nope, yeah, that's what I figured.
So,
I know you used to be a police officer.
I know that you've had different financial struggles,
you said.
What else would you say?
I think you said that, didn't you?
Well, at one point, yeah.
It was actually after I was in police work
and I first started my insurance agency.
And yeah, we struggled big time.
As I got married to a gal with six children
and I went through a real nasty divorce early on.
Married a gal, I'm still married to her.
We've been married, well, been together 31 years.
And so all of her kids basically, I'm the dad.
So we struggled early
when I first opened my insurance agency
and almost lost a car.
But then things settled in and financially we're fine.
But I just, I wanna grow this business
cause I wanna impact more people.
And so I can't impact people like you've talked about.
If you're poor, you can't really help anybody.
So the more income you have-
Sorry, I just wanna help that statement
cause I don't wanna trigger anyone.
With more money, you can help more people.
That is true.
You can be poor and still impact people,
just not as much, just not as many.
So who, like, if you had to guess, just wild guess,
who do you think you're called to help?
I think people that are just struggling
with their health and finances.
Okay.
Cause it's very difficult to build influence
in a brand by having both.
Right.
Cause people think you're not an authority of either,
even though you may be.
Right.
You may be like, oh my goodness,
this guy's an expert of an authority of health
and he's a doctor.
He's an expert of an authority of health and wealth.
This is amazing, you know?
But most people aren't gonna buy that.
They're gonna say-
I'd be more tend to do with the finances
cause most people are struggling big time.
Okay.
And I think this business is a way out of it.
Yeah.
And...
Okay.
Now we're closer.
Okay.
If you don't mind me asking, how old are you?
74.
Oh, you look great.
Thanks.
You too.
Okay. All right. All right. You're ready. I am. Sometimes I get more excited than you
guys about my off my thing I come up with for you. I got excited. I got excited.
Not it wasn't as excited as me. That's what we love you, right? Yes. So here, here's what I got.
I help servant. Oh, hear me? It's happening. It froze. It did.
Ah, no, I can still see you. Yeah, I gotcha. I think he froze. Oh, he froze. Okay.
You froze. Oh, I did. I did. Okay. I thought it was me. Yeah. So you ready? Here it comes.
I help. So maybe we'll write that down.
Servant hearted seniors.
Increase their impact and income.
How does that sound?
That word I was trying to think like, I don't think you just want to serve police officers,
but what's a police officer? Well, a good police officer is serve a servant heart,
right? Your servants serve the people, right? And and so I think that's pretty cool. What do you
think? Yeah. Try it one more time. I help servant hearted seniors increase their impact and income.
Okay. I love it.
And so your mission, like I've done, like most of the people on here is come up with your how
that's your next step. So you got, you have two steps, one tangible, one kind of intangible,
monitor your language, try to try to catch yourself be more aware. And you can pray on
that too. Father, thank you for helping me catch myself in my language more and more.
And he and he will you'll be like, Oh, he's he's helped me with that because I still had some
blind spots. And I'm not saying I don't, but he's helped me catch so many things, you know, I don't
know. But work on the how what does that how look like? It can't be your product. It can't be the
opportunity. But it could be, you know, like one of the steps could be, find yourself a low cost
home business to start. Now, I found one for myself that I love and is amazing and has really
helped me, but maybe there's a perfect one out there for you. You think that that would drive
people away, it doesn't, it actually makes them more wonder even more, well, what does he do?
And so work on that as your next step, how how will you help that servant hearted senior that
wants to make an increase in impact and income? That good? Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Okay.
All right. So work on that. And then okay, I will do my very best to not make these so long.
I promise. I will work very hard on that. But thank you, Jerry. Appreciate you. Thanks for
your patience. Thank you. We'll definitely get you we will not have you last next time. I promise.
And so, yeah, let me say a quick prayer. And then I got to jump on my three o'clock.
I'm like, hold on, guys. And so Father, we're just so grateful for you, Father, thank you for
being here with us. Thank you for your presence, Lord. And Father, right now, I just lift everyone
up to you, Lord. Thank you for blessing them. Thank you for blessing their families. Thank you
for blessing them and the work of their hands. Thank you for helping them to prosper. Thank you
for helping them with abundance, prosperity, riches, honor and life. Thank you for giving
them wisdom and discernment around who is it that they are called to help the most and how
will they do that, Lord. Thank you for giving them that clarity. Thank you for helping grow them.
And Father, you're just so worthy of our praise. You're worthy of our glory, honor, power and
strength. And we are so honored to be your children. Thank you for being with us. We thank
you in the mighty name of Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen. All right, guys. All right. Call number
one. Wrapped. I will see you guys soon. Love you guys. Thank you, Ray. Bye, guys.