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All right. Welcome to Men's Heart Check-In Monday night. This is February 10th and 2025.

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So welcome, gentlemen. Good to have you all here. Don't have anybody that's a complete newbie on

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here, so that's good. Welcome all. And we had a pretty good discussion last time. I liked it.

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Things are some good stuff there. And then we didn't record it, so that kind of sucked. But

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praise God. God is merciful. He's graceful and all the things.

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So anyway, I just want to open it up. What is on your mind? What is on your heart?

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What is going on? Any follow-up from last week that you need? Any questions?

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Yeah. I do have a question for you, Thomas. Did you get any clarity on some of the stuff

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that you were navigating through last week? So last week, for those who weren't present,

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I was asking about what do you do when you feel like you hear some things from God about

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things to look for or pray for? And I think the general answer was to kind of put it on the shelf

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and also follow peace. I think were kind of the two kind of main things that I heard from that.

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I think that I feel a lot of peace about kind of, and I also, I've reached out to some of my

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closest friends and kind of run it by them and kind of try to get their perspective. I do feel

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a lot of peace about kind of moving forward with praying for the things that are on there.

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I think for me, like in terms of my theology, putting it on the shelf is very different from

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what 1 Timothy 1.18 says when it says fight with the promises that you've been given.

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So for me, I think that there's kind of this question of like, how do you judge words accurately?

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And then so I think for me last week, maybe I was approaching with kind of like a question of

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what's the right rule, which is frequently not the most helpful question maybe.

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So figuring out how to be kind of loving towards God, towards my future wife, towards community,

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while keeping in mind kind of good wisdom principles is kind of what I've been thinking

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about. So I think for me, kind of the answer, the main answer that I was given is different

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from kind of how I tend to think or believe, but I very much appreciated the feedback and

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and choosing to continue to kind of very much kind of like keep it in mind and process,

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if that makes sense. Yeah, I mean, well, there's a couple things with that. And I want to

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talk to that a little bit, because there's some, it's relevant to the conversation we've been

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having in our business, even in our family, just in our small circle here, where we're at,

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with regard to the prophetic, if you will. And of course, there's a couple different things that

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you have to clarify when you say that, because first and foremost, even if you've been involved

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with prophetic type of teaching movements, that kind of stuff, there's still some clarity.

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There's individuals who are not as familiar with what do you mean when you say the prophetic?

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I mean, Paul specifically talks about the spirit of prophecy or the gift of prophecy that

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it's a spiritual gift that he wishes all people desire. And I think a really simple definition of

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just prophetic voice is simply like, what is God saying? You know, capturing, trying to capture

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the moment of what is God saying to me, an individual? What is God saying to our culture?

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What is God saying to our community? What is God saying to the world abroad? And really just like

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hearing the voice of God, rather than trying to come up with, oh, this is a prophetic thing,

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it sounds really cool, whatever. I'm trying to like get real deep and weird and like different

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and cool, rather than, you know, try to do that with the prophetic. It's just simply trying to

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say, you know, Lord, what are you saying? And what are you saying either for this person? Or what are

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you saying in this situation? And lots of times, you know, I'm attached to really good friends with

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Dan McCollum and Bethany Hicks, and they're the leaders of a movement called Prophetic

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Company. And they do a lot of just hands-on practical...

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training not making it weird in the prophetic and prophesying and being

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encouraging edifying and as far as the body which is based in scripture right

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so when you're speaking prophetically to someone it's supposed to be for the

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uplifting edification encouragement of that individual that that place that

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body that local assembly or you know whatever the context is in the moment

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and they are they have this one thing they teach all the time they said you

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know if you receive a word from somebody however it comes how it comes

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to you if it's something that doesn't really like resonate with you matter of

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fact if it even like disturbs you or like you know sometimes words could be

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challenging a little bit of an invitation like hey you might not be

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really comfortable but this I think but I think God's inviting you into a

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greater level of whatever right that may be challenging that may be something

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it's not as comfortable but it shouldn't be like evilly disturbing

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like oh like that's not me at all or that's not my heart's desire I have like

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I don't even know what you're talking about they're like when that happens

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just have grace for the person because the great person's probably at least

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trying we're gonna give them the benefit of the doubt then in good faith that

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they're trying to give an accurate word or prophetic words some sort of

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encouragement or whatever they thought and it goes and just take that word and

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flush it so the encouragement to take things that simply literally just don't

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resonate with you don't have any context for your life there's way out on left

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field you have every right as an individual as a son or daughter of God

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to just flush of that and say I can't just take everything as a word from the

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Lord there's that the other thing is that the sitting with you know lots of

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times I really feel like you know God gives us indication God's gives us clues

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I really believe in in the love and the grace and the mercy of God tries to give

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us a heads up a lot of times if we're listening if we're trying to pay

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attention if we're not trying to not make it too confusing but if I Lord you

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know you're walking along and there's lots of times he sort of has to get our

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attention and so sometimes we might receive a word we might receive some

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sort of I want to say predication but it's a like a like a what do we what's

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that word will come back to me in a second but some some sort of like idea

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or cognizance of the future you know I'm saying like this may happen or this is

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something that I feel like is whatever but you don't have any direct

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information on it you don't have any direct confirmation even in the natural

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or someone said something or anything but you have this like set the word

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predication like your premonition premonition sort of a premonition sort

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of an a foreknowledge of something that could be and I think sometimes the Lord

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in his grace tries to prepare our hearts for things that he wants to make come

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about in our lives or wants to lead us into or wants to say hey have you ever

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thought of yourself as something more than what you're doing right in this

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instance and I think in that case and even for future relationships so to

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speak right so I think in that case that's part of this the journey so when

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I say like when you put things on the shelf I mean that sometimes there are

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things that come to us that's like huh I have to ponder that just like Mary did

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Mary pondered the word of the Lord the angel that came to her the word of the

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Lord the angel Lord that came to her and gave her the word she pondered it in her

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heart so this is sort of what I'm sort of addressing like when things come to

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you and you're like I don't know what to make of that and I don't know whether to

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trust it or this or that that's something you just have to sit with for

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a moment I guess that's kind of where I was coming from and then there are times

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when you're like you know I really believe that's a word of the Lord

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that's very encouraging because I was looking for that exact sort of like

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confirmation if you will that to me is where you take a word like that and you

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contend for it you're like okay I believe I've received a strong word in

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this I really believe this is God he's leading me into this this is a definite

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yes now I'm trying to contend for the natural circumstances to line up with

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what God's doing in my life so it's a little bit different a couple different

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ways to look at it so what I'm trying to get at and I think unfortunately here's

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sort of the bad side I think a lot of our church cultures if you're not in

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this culture this brand if you will of church then don't worry about it but

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there's there's a certain church prophetic culture that has really taken

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the prophetic to like the nth degree

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to the point where it's like, um, there's the old school version.

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There's a little bit of a new couple generational versions of this to where

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it's kind of like people put way too much emphasis on the prophetic, like,

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Oh, this prophet came to me and said this thing.

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It doesn't, it came out, you know, like if they were to be honest, it

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probably came out of left field or, or it probably had some like

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connections to some things, but then they're trying to fit their life into

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that, or they're trying to be obedient that, and then they elevate some

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prophetic word over every red flag that's in there, that's in their life

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to say, no, this is not it.

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This is not healthy.

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This is not good.

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This is why we need community.

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This is why we need good family.

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This is why we need good community.

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This is why we need good friends.

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We need good people who are faithful in the Lord in our lives.

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We understand that in the natural family has deteriorated in our culture.

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You know, good, um, you know, friendly neighbors have even

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deteriorated in our, in our, in our culture.

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So we have to modify, we have to like, Hey, if you don't have a great family,

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there is family in, you know, what we're doing every Monday night, there's

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family in, you know, your, hopefully you have a faith community that you're a

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part of, but you have somebody around you that you're doing life with, that

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you can trust people that have good wisdom, good advice, are they the

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strongest, most greatest, best Christians?

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I don't know if that's completely necessary.

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It's wonderful.

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When you have people that love Jesus, they can also give you good wisdom,

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but I found a lot of people that are just really wise, sound people that

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aren't necessarily the most sharp Christian or Christian at all, but

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I've gotten good advice from them.

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I've gotten good, like solid wisdom from them.

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So it can come from a lot of different places, but it is nevertheless, the

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basic thing is it is why we need community is why we need each other to

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say, Hey, bro, um, I see where you're coming from.

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I, I feel your heart in this.

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I said, let me, let me shed some light on something else that

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may be a little bit different.

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Maybe you're thinking about this a little bit different or let me

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question that, or let me, let's have a conversation.

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Let's have a dialogue about it.

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You know, and that's kind of a lot of what we do on this call.

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Um, but I think that's helpful and I think that's good.

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And I love the fact, cause Thomas, I mean, you, you came last

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week with that, those sort of heart.

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You're like, Hey, I believe in this community.

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I believe you guys, and I trust you.

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And I, I just want to put this out there and want to see, you know,

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if this is something that, you know, what do you think about it?

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And that's, that's a beautiful, it's vulnerable and it's, but it's a

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very beautiful thing to do in community in a, in a, you know, community

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that's built on values and love and the heart of heart of God.

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So, and brotherhood.

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So I love that.

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So that's kind of like my comments.

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Cause you know, coming back to that a little bit on that, I

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hope that brings some clarity.

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Um, thanks for Shane.

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Anybody else have anything to comment on that?

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Does that, does that help at all, Thomas?

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It helped.

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I, yeah, I think, um, it's always good to get kind of the perspective in the

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context and I think it's, you know, of course, helpful to hear kind of what

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you're saying and, um, it's also interesting just to hear, you know, that

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your, your reference like Dano and, you know, that kind of, that kind of community

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is, and so, yeah, it's, it's his book that, um, kind of really informed kind

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of a lot of like the encouragement to like judge words and that kind of stuff.

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So, um, so, uh, so yeah, um, but, um, yeah, continuing, I think, I think it's

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so interesting to me, the idea of, of just like faith and just doing our best

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and like Proverbs three, five and six and saying, you know what, like we do our

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best and then we trust that God's going to work it out as we, you know, as, as

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we really, I think God loves it when we do our best and, and I, someone was

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praying for me Sunday and, and was saying like, you know, God loves being

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with us as we learn and as we learn, even if it means course correcting

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or whatever it means.

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And, um, it's not necessarily, and I think you've said this before, David,

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this person said, it's not as much about like becoming perfect as much

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as kind of like experiencing the journey with God and with others.

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I have this, I have this little phrase, I have this little like vignette

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that I rehearse every once in a while.

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And it's kind of, it kind of goes like this.

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It's like, um, I have this imagination where God looks down on us and kind of

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puts his arm around you like a, like a father would and just go, Hey man,

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you're doing a great job.

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It's not at all what I expected or anticipated or had in mind.

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But you're doing a great job, you know, like you're doing good.

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Like it is isn't at all what I had in mind, but you're doing great.

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You know, like I feel like he does that individually.

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I feel like he does that with sort of our religious systems

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and our cultures and our even the world at large.

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It's like you're doing great. I love you.

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You know, and that's kind of like this little thing I rehearse a lot.

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And I feel like that's, you know, what happens.

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So who else what else is out there, guys, what do you got?

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Abrams going to be on the dating game tomorrow night.

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Awesome, Abram. Congratulations.

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And good luck and Godspeed and good job, Abram.

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Look forward to it, man.

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Going to be good.

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So the dating game, that's that's separate from the spotlight.

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Is that something like if you want to be on the dating game,

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then you have to request being on the dating game instead of spotlight?

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Well, the dating game and the spotlights

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were kind of designed to do the same type of thing,

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which is from a different from two different perspectives.

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The dating game is a lot of fun.

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The spotlights, we used to highlight a couple individuals, even one individual.

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And now she's doing a little bit more like speed.

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She's doing some sort of different format to where we're trying to kind of get through more spotlights,

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give at least sort of a chance for more people to be spotlighted faster, men and women.

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So that's a little bit.

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Yeah, I guess, you know, I don't know if it'll be handled in the same session

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because I don't know if it's going to be handled in the same way.

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But I think it's going to be a little bit different.

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I guess the thing is that I kind of felt like, you know, gypped in a way, unfortunately,

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because I feel like there was a lot more people.

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And then it's not like I'm trying to hog all the time, but it's just like I feel like.

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Like in order to be noticed by the women, I would need to get more time,

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like there's a lot of guys, you know,

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then it's like less is focused on each guy.

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And I felt like I wasn't asked as many questions as other guys.

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So I don't know.

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I just kind of felt.

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Did you do a spotlight with just a couple other you and a couple other guys?

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Is that what happened?

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Well, there was a lot of guys and there was a lot of women.

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Oh, there were about like six guys on your night, Andy.

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And then and then the women kept asking, like, what, how tall you are.

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And all the guys were saying, like, like, I'm six foot.

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And I was the only one that said, like, five, four.

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I'm like, not that I'm conscious of my height, even.

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It's just that it's kind of annoying.

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And like, why do they have to ask about height?

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And like, I'm the only one that's short.

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Like, what the heck?

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This is this is the thing with women.

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This is a weird thing with women and the height.

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I it's just like it's the same thing with like guys have their own other little issue.

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As far as like, what is a beautiful woman?

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You know, like there's so many people that respond with blonde hair, blue eyes.

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I'm like, that's not my thing at all.

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But that's sort of the typical thing.

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The other thing, this is the thing with girls.

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They just do this thing with height.

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And Jackie's like, look, all guys in all of America are five, eight.

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So just get used to it, ladies.

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Just like, you know, five, nine or whatever she says.

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And because that's actually the average height of like all males.

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It's like five, nine or something like that.

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It's just really like, you know, most people think, oh, like the average height of males

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is like almost six feet.

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It's not not at all.

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And so this is the thing.

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So I don't know.

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I ask, ask a lady next time, you know, that you're around us.

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Why is height such a big thing?

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Like ask somebody that you trust, not somebody that you're on a date with.

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And of course, a lot of women ask us the same thing.

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Why is it about being skinny or looking like those models that you see on the magazine?

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Or on the media?

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Yeah, I think culture is changing on that a little bit.

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Yeah, I did.

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What is going on?

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We can have a discussion about characteristics and physical characteristics of men and women

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if you want to the rest of time.

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Or we can actually talk about something that really kind of matter.

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I have a question about a method of dating.

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It's I guess it's kind of like I'm not sure if it's like a gentleman thing or if it's

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like something within the Christian concept of dating.

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I went on a date recently with someone and I offered to pay for the coffees that we had.

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And she was like, oh, I don't want ownership over me.

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No, thank you.

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I was like, what the heck is that?

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Like, it's not I'm not owning you for buying you a coffee.

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I think that's a little strange.

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Jackie has the phrase, she says it all the time.

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You know, how does it go?

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It goes something like chivalry went where ladylike went.

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So, you know, it's a weird thing in our culture.

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I mean, kind of tread lightly, but at the same time,

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try not to be offensive, but at the same time,

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for crying out loud.

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I was just, I just didn't understand what it meant.

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People pay it forward in the drive-through lines

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all the time, so I don't know what the big deal is.

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It's just chivalry.

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Chris, you had your hand raised.

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I thought you had an idea that you wanted to share.

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Yeah.

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Well, first of all, testimony.

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I got through last week.

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I went to bed Monday night, kind of in a pretzel.

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I asked for prayer for a decision last week,

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and I woke up at 3.30 in the morning,

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on Wednesday morning, kind of a wreck.

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And as I was praying and pondering,

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God brought Proverbs 22.1 to my mind.

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Good name is more to be desired than great wealth,

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and favor is better than silver and gold.

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And I won't go into all the details,

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but it was kind of a, at that point,

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it was like a decision of job transition,

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state transition, everything that had to be made

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Thursday night, and I just came to peace with it,

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and God gave me resolution.

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So anyway, so that was a really cool,

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like God showed up moment.

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But I had a question about if anyone,

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and I guess this is a little bit general,

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you know, like I know that my sheep hear my voice,

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like we all can hear God's voice.

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And does anyone have any lessons they've learned

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or they've been able to adapt on the difference

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between anxiety or fear and cautions from the Holy Spirit?

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I do.

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Like I did, because anxiety is when you're concerned,

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worried about something out of your control

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and more concerned about what you want

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versus what God wants.

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A budging from the Holy Spirit, like I was tempted,

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I went to a Super Bowl party with my boss's house,

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they call company, a lot of people were cussing,

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and I look at it, I was gonna think about cussing a lot,

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and then the Holy Spirit just nicked at me saying,

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you know, don't swear.

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So I was the least, I cussed the least at the party.

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And of course, everybody was drinking

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and I only had one beer, and that was that.

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Basically, that sort of thing.

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Thanks, Hunter.

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I'll throw something in.

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Anytime the Holy Spirit's like giving you a word of warning,

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it's gonna come with peace.

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If it's driven by anxiety or fear,

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it's gonna be that sense of anxiety and worry.

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So like everything from the Lord is gonna come with peace.

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I think so. Amen.

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I put two and two together.

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I think one of the things that really is important

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for that to be true is that we have to be totally surrendered

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because if we're fighting it

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and God's telling us something,

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like it really messes up the emotional balance.

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At least that's kind of what I'm discerning.

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Any thoughts, David, or?

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What do you mean by totally surrendered?

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I'm just kind of listening to everybody's responses.

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Yeah, I do have thoughts though.

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You know, I always do.

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Anybody else?

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Yeah, I just wanted to get what he meant

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by totally surrendered.

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Like, would you put like a quality to that, I guess?

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A quality or an example, maybe?

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Is that another way?

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Yeah, like put it in some type of measurable terms of like.

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Okay, so my thing right here is moved on to Florida.

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Like basically it was quit my job right now,

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be paid for eight months,

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wrap up everything and move to Florida.

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And I was just,

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and I was just, you know, I was kind of like,

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I've been, I've wondered in my mind,

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like kind of like David was saying,

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like God will give us like leading.

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And I've been kind of like wrestling with it.

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Like, I wonder if he's leading in a certain direction.

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And all of a sudden this like hammer came down

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and it was like this do or don't opportunity.

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And it was kind of a perfect way out

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from all the obstacles.

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But at that point,

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I just decided that there was a,

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I decided that basically God was gonna give me another way.

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If there was, if this was him,

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he was gonna work out another path

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because there was too much anxiety in the process.

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And it's also come up in relation to,

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in relation to dating for me,

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because like I've never felt peace in any relationship.

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ship except unless I'm not really interested, you know, like, you know, it's just like when

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I'm really interested in someone, I've shut it down, because I'm like, I don't feel peace

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in this. And I mean, God speaks to me, but I was just kind of just figuring it out there.

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Let me ask you, Chris, just for clarification, is the move to move to Florida? Is it for

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the reason of pursuing a relationship? No. Oh, it's a job opportunity or? Yeah, it was

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a job opportunity. And it's a job opportunity. And I happen to know there's some great churches

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down there. I've got a great church too. I don't I don't want to leave my church. That

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was part of the problem. I don't want to leave my church. It was a really cool. It's

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a really cool job opportunity. And yeah. Yeah, I mean, this is where I think I don't I don't

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want to run. I don't want to just do a wide I mean, like I'm struggling with this where

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I want to go with this. But like, this is where I feel like I feel like this is a practical

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sort of situation where it's like you have an opportunity to, I'm assuming, advance your

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career. So a lot of people would be like, well, why wouldn't you do that? You know,

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they're just very practically minded. They're not really thinking about anything relational,

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anything community wise. And, you know, like they think those things are secondary. You know,

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some people are just like, oh, you have advances, you know, that would be the obvious thing to do.

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You advance your career and make more money, do whatever, have more, whatever, you know,

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it comes along with that. I think there's conventional wisdom like, hey, what's the

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smart move, you know, type thing. What's the smart like, you know, if you could buy something

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for less over here than over here, the smart thing would do to buy the thing that's less,

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you know, it's just practical, very, you know, practical wisdom. I think that's very valuable

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in a lot of ways. And I think, especially I think with believers sometimes, I think believers

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sometimes can get a little bit spiritually minded to where like the practicality goes out the window

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and it's like, well, bro, let's just come down here. Just like, let's just think about this for

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a second. So there's that. I think that also there's a, I believe there's also what I was

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asking maybe a few months ago, which is kind of like, what do you want, you know? And sometimes

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I know that's hard to decide because you're like, well, I want this, but I also want that too.

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And it's just like, okay. But like, if you drill down into the, what do you want question,

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I feel like this has a lot to do with that because it's like, when you have very little at stake,

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like if you're in a situation where they're, Hey, there's a relationship and relationship is on the

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forefront of your sort of pursuit right now, because of where you're at in your life, i.e.

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the fact that you're connected to even just this community. Right. So, but assume that maybe

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you might seriously consider making a move. It was, it was for a relationship,

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but this really isn't that you're not telling me that, you know, there's no relationship of

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odds. It's just a career move. But the other thing on the other side of that is

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you're probably thinking, well, if I do this, Lord is not so bad. I mean, I don't want to

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leave my church, but at the same time, there's other great churches. There is a career advancement

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and who knows, maybe what I'm looking for in a relationship is in Florida. You know,

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who knows what this suddenly, sometimes you make decisions just to see, you know,

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maybe you could make a career move. Maybe you could move down to Florida. Does it have to be

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the last thing you ever do in your life in terms of a career move and a major decision? Probably

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not. Can it be undone? I mean, it probably could with some, you know, because if you get down there

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and you move, I've had people move all the time and they moved down for a couple of years and

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they're like, you know what? This really wasn't what I thought it was going to be. And so they

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moved back or whatever. The practical, the practical idea of the fact that you can always

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sort of do what it is you want, go back, go forward, whatever it is, that takes a lot of

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the pressure off. But at the same time, it's still kind of always comes back to that. What do you

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want? Like, what do you want to do? Like, not in a hard no sense, but like, hey, if you could just

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sort of like quiet the noise for a moment and just get into your heart and go, I really believe like

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whatever the Lord has put in my heart.

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These already give me some sort of desire for what's the right next move.

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And if I just simply answer the question in a moment of peace, like,

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what do I really want to do? And if you could contend for that,

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you actually might find a solace, a peace in making a good decision.

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Also, just to add a caveat to what Zach had said about that word from the Lord's not gonna

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be outside of love. It's not going to come with any fear either. If you remember the story of Job,

449
00:30:35.520 --> 00:30:38.720
he talks about, oh, what I've always feared has come to pass.

450
00:30:39.760 --> 00:30:43.760
So because he was operating in fear, all these things were able to attack him.

451
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:49.680
So just it's not going to be anything with any sense of

452
00:30:52.560 --> 00:30:57.600
anything outside of love, anything having to do with fear in your movements and your guidance.

453
00:30:58.480 --> 00:31:03.120
If that offers any further stability for you, Chris.

454
00:31:03.120 --> 00:31:07.360
Yeah, this is hardcore vulnerable, but I've been realizing that I think

455
00:31:10.080 --> 00:31:16.960
I do think I do a lot of what I do mostly out of like fear of being in the wrong place.

456
00:31:17.760 --> 00:31:21.440
Like it's more like I'm above all else. I'm afraid of getting out of God's will,

457
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:27.040
because in my mind, that's just like an absolute mess and pain and stuff like that.

458
00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:32.720
So it's like, yeah. So anyway, but that's a huge roadblock.

459
00:31:33.600 --> 00:31:39.200
I was listening to a podcast tonight about about like tension and fear in relationships,

460
00:31:40.000 --> 00:31:45.600
and it made it kind of was like, OK, what do I do with this? You know, how do I.

461
00:31:47.360 --> 00:31:53.680
Yeah, if God's already told, you know, about something that's that's no. But if it's just

462
00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:57.600
if you're 41 and it's just like this constant, like never feeling right about anything,

463
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:03.680
it's like, OK, well, I am. I basically I've set aside like however long it takes. I've

464
00:32:03.680 --> 00:32:07.200
quit working on the house. So I basically come home at night, spend time with Jesus.

465
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.160
So it's changing. I'm like aggressively working on it. But

466
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:15.920
but anyways, maybe that was too deep. I just wanted to throw it out there.

467
00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:18.800
It's really not deep at all. Not too deep at all, man. I

468
00:32:19.760 --> 00:32:23.200
a vulnerable share for me like I have been.

469
00:32:25.280 --> 00:32:29.840
After completing the hard work, realizing that I've been lukewarm for a long time, like I

470
00:32:29.840 --> 00:32:38.560
kind of only read my Bible when I need to, like when I feel anxious or whatever in life is going

471
00:32:38.560 --> 00:32:46.000
on. Or like when I'm at church or doing a Bible study with my men's group, not like a daily

472
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:49.680
practice. So like every day for the last five days, climbed a mountain, spent like

473
00:32:50.880 --> 00:32:57.760
a good two hours just consuming the word and opened up to one of my pastors on Sunday.

474
00:32:57.760 --> 00:33:02.480
I was like, yeah, you know, real talk. I feel like all of you are perfect. And I'm like the

475
00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:06.640
only one that's like not reading my Bible daily. And he's like, no, you're not the only one.

476
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:12.160
I guarantee it. None of us are almost most of us are like definitely not reading our Bible daily.

477
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:19.200
Life gets in the way. Other things get in the way. So and I'm 40 years old and

478
00:33:20.800 --> 00:33:27.760
it's it's not the same thing as being afraid of being out of God's will type of fear, but it's

479
00:33:27.760 --> 00:33:37.520
like definitely a fear of sometimes I feel like I'm inadequate in being able to do what's accepted

480
00:33:37.520 --> 00:33:43.520
or do what's expected. If that helps, Chris, like, I don't know if that's the same thing that

481
00:33:43.520 --> 00:33:51.920
you're feeling, but it's like stuff from. I guess the stuff from my childhood and also stuff from

482
00:33:52.560 --> 00:33:58.960
when I was in the military that I'm just like always like more so setting impossible standards

483
00:33:58.960 --> 00:34:06.880
for myself. So almost like I'm stuck in that self-fulfilling loop of I'm never good enough.

484
00:34:06.880 --> 00:34:12.880
I have to keep striving. I have to keep seeking higher and higher, pushing myself harder.

485
00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:20.400
And sometimes it's just me beating my head against a wall for no good reason.

486
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:25.280
Thanks for sharing. That's I definitely hear you.

487
00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:32.000
Abraham, did you have something? I don't know if you like I saw a facial cue that

488
00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.520
said you were going to say something. I didn't know if you got something on this or not.

489
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:41.280
Earlier, I was going to make a joke about David with the coffee that now that you bought her

490
00:34:41.280 --> 00:34:49.280
coffee, you own her. It was just a stupid joke. She just makes, she just has to do whatever you

491
00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:54.400
say all the time because you bought her $3 coffee. No, that was just a stupid joke. That's power.

492
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:07.840
Obligation. It's a cup of coffee. I don't know. Yeah, it's a cheap investment. Yeah, I think there's a little chip on that shoulder for me

493
00:35:08.400 --> 00:35:09.840
fear is

494
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:13.580
Fear is that is the I'm not unknown

495
00:35:14.240 --> 00:35:20.120
because I mean if you knew that it's gonna be this this and this and you had control and

496
00:35:20.480 --> 00:35:24.800
But when you don't have control there's fear because it's all and then you start going

497
00:35:24.800 --> 00:35:29.760
Well, what if this happens and what if this and what if I don't find a church and what if I you know

498
00:35:29.760 --> 00:35:31.760
I feel the same you

499
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:37.040
yeah, and for me sometimes when I have decisions like a different job or something or

500
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:43.200
And I'll go well if money wasn't the motivation or I had all the money

501
00:35:43.200 --> 00:35:47.840
would I even take that job and if or would I even do that or do this and

502
00:35:48.240 --> 00:35:52.880
If the answer is like no because I'm doing it for some other reason. I'm all okay, so

503
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:55.480
You know because we get motivated by other things

504
00:35:56.200 --> 00:36:02.400
But yeah for me is fears when I don't have control of something and that can be in relationships, too

505
00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:05.280
Right because you don't know how it's gonna be so you can be fearful

506
00:36:06.720 --> 00:36:09.520
Even starting what I appreciate that John

507
00:36:09.520 --> 00:36:13.120
Um, I mean not to justify myself and I won't go into details

508
00:36:13.120 --> 00:36:16.520
But like it was part of it involved like leaving a job

509
00:36:19.160 --> 00:36:24.400
Leaving like what I feel by an order of magnitude is the best job for me in Cleveland

510
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:30.480
and I would not be able to get it back just because of the circumstances like it was like if I walk out here this

511
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:32.480
is done and

512
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:39.240
But if I do this if I don't if I didn't do this now if I didn't like rush myself based on this offer

513
00:36:40.080 --> 00:36:42.080
That didn't have to be the case

514
00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:46.840
You know, which was kind of part of like, you know, like the enemy was trying to put me in a box

515
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.240
And then I will say like there there is a relationship here in Cleveland that Jackie

516
00:36:53.080 --> 00:36:54.600
Doesn't think

517
00:36:54.600 --> 00:36:56.600
It's done and

518
00:36:56.760 --> 00:37:02.880
I am really struggling with you know, but so there's that in a time, you know in the mix as well

519
00:37:03.920 --> 00:37:05.920
and

520
00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:12.400
So, yeah, so between those two things and not wanting to like, you know waste my life

521
00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:20.040
If I'm supposed to be in Florida because you know if if I'm supposed to be in Florida, she's probably in Florida so it's like

522
00:37:21.040 --> 00:37:28.480
Anyway, but thanks for hearing me out. Man. There's so many things so many things going on here

523
00:37:33.160 --> 00:37:39.280
I have a ton of things are going on with me too. But like again, there's not really enough time to talk about me

524
00:37:39.520 --> 00:37:46.880
Me too, but I just like to I'm just open. I figure we need and we hear from other people what's going on?

525
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:48.760
I'm I'm

526
00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:53.440
Just feel like my days of being single or I just got a sense of this last year singles

527
00:37:53.720 --> 00:37:59.520
Programming letting go thinking man. Mary God has already numbered the days of being single for me

528
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:05.120
Interesting and Chris when you were talking about like the door open

529
00:38:05.120 --> 00:38:10.760
I mean when that thing I offer came real fast in my mind. I pictured like a door just slung open and

530
00:38:11.480 --> 00:38:17.040
And you know, which does that happens fast? It's like, you know until the door opens

531
00:38:17.040 --> 00:38:20.520
It's just like a wall then Austin door opens and there's just this new path

532
00:38:20.520 --> 00:38:25.920
And that's when you said that it was abrupt and whatever. That's what just popped in my head

533
00:38:26.760 --> 00:38:28.760
That's interesting. I just listened to

534
00:38:29.600 --> 00:38:31.600
one of the replays from

535
00:38:31.640 --> 00:38:33.640
it wasn't a

536
00:38:34.520 --> 00:38:37.280
Main event. I think it was actually the prophetic night

537
00:38:38.200 --> 00:38:39.800
from

538
00:38:39.800 --> 00:38:41.800
December 30th or something

539
00:38:42.680 --> 00:38:45.400
Where Jackie was talking about a door hinge?

540
00:38:45.400 --> 00:38:47.400
Hmm

541
00:38:49.720 --> 00:38:51.720
But

542
00:38:53.560 --> 00:38:55.800
And it feels like a God wink moment all of a sudden

543
00:38:56.520 --> 00:38:58.520
Yeah, like some abrupt

544
00:39:00.520 --> 00:39:04.560
Because it that offer didn't exist a couple like months ago, right

545
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:12.840
Thomas you have your hand raised. Are you I wanted to comment on this that was that what that's for. Yeah, I mean, I

546
00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:17.920
I know I've talked a lot last week in this week. It's I really I'm hoping you know, I don't I don't want to

547
00:39:19.000 --> 00:39:22.120
You change especially, you know, if you said Andy that there are things you want to share

548
00:39:22.120 --> 00:39:27.720
But I just I do Chris since you asked and there are a couple things that kind of feel maybe right to share

549
00:39:27.720 --> 00:39:33.560
Just as general ideas first. I just want to say thank you to to you and David for being real. I

550
00:39:34.440 --> 00:39:36.440
really appreciate it a lot and

551
00:39:38.280 --> 00:39:41.000
I think it's it can be so frustrating

552
00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:44.920
I also just want to offer some empathy. I feel like it can be really frustrating and really painful

553
00:39:45.560 --> 00:39:50.520
when you're like really wanting so bad to do the right thing and kind of getting jerked around and

554
00:39:51.080 --> 00:39:53.080
tormented almost even it sounds like

555
00:39:54.600 --> 00:39:59.160
And that that's really rough I think in terms of some things that have happened over the last couple months

556
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:02.540
things that I've personally have found helpful.

557
00:40:00.120 --> 00:40:02.120
I think it's been

558
00:40:02.520 --> 00:40:04.520
I think it's been

559
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:07.140
One question is, is the voice loving?

560
00:40:08.840 --> 00:40:12.320
Like one time I was just being torn apart inside

561
00:40:12.320 --> 00:40:14.480
and I feel like God kind of stopped everything

562
00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:15.960
and he was like, this is the enemy.

563
00:40:15.960 --> 00:40:18.640
And it was like all these kind of like accusations.

564
00:40:18.640 --> 00:40:19.680
He's like, this is you.

565
00:40:19.680 --> 00:40:21.840
And it was just like this voice of total confusion.

566
00:40:21.840 --> 00:40:22.960
And he was like, this is me.

567
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:26.400
He's like, I love you, you're my son.

568
00:40:26.400 --> 00:40:27.720
And it felt so different.

569
00:40:27.720 --> 00:40:32.280
So I think I'll be praying for you and for all of us,

570
00:40:32.280 --> 00:40:33.560
for discernment.

571
00:40:33.560 --> 00:40:35.080
Two, I think testing the spirits,

572
00:40:35.080 --> 00:40:38.940
like first John three says, can be really helpful to ask,

573
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:42.120
like, is Jesus the word made flesh

574
00:40:42.120 --> 00:40:44.780
to the spirit that's trying to talk?

575
00:40:44.780 --> 00:40:45.900
Cause there were so many spirits.

576
00:40:45.900 --> 00:40:47.600
I just used to do anything whenever I got

577
00:40:47.600 --> 00:40:50.360
like a spiritual impression or something.

578
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:53.480
But it turns out, I mean, like to me, I don't know.

579
00:40:53.480 --> 00:40:54.380
I don't know.

580
00:40:54.380 --> 00:40:57.120
I'm not in a place to judge, but it sounds strange to me

581
00:40:57.520 --> 00:40:59.880
that like something would come to you and say like,

582
00:40:59.880 --> 00:41:01.360
you need to get off this really great thing

583
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:04.120
that you're doing and like, kind of go over this way.

584
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:10.320
But three is, if you aren't complying,

585
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:11.620
does the voice get mean?

586
00:41:12.660 --> 00:41:15.360
I think is something to maybe keep in mind.

587
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.760
Like Abby Stumball talks about how like she always used

588
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:19.320
to follow this voice.

589
00:41:19.320 --> 00:41:21.640
And then a kind of prophetic minister said,

590
00:41:21.640 --> 00:41:23.520
what happens if you disobey?

591
00:41:23.520 --> 00:41:25.120
And so one time she tried doing something

592
00:41:25.120 --> 00:41:27.440
slightly different and it got really angry

593
00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:29.360
and mean really fast.

594
00:41:29.360 --> 00:41:30.680
And which is a symbol that it's really

595
00:41:30.680 --> 00:41:31.840
probably not the Lord.

596
00:41:33.240 --> 00:41:38.060
And then another one is like a fleece, you know?

597
00:41:38.060 --> 00:41:40.280
So like the fact that you asked for like a confirmation,

598
00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:42.080
I think that's can be very biblical.

599
00:41:43.720 --> 00:41:45.000
I don't think that that necessarily means

600
00:41:45.000 --> 00:41:46.280
you have a lack of faith sometimes.

601
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:47.640
If you're like, I really don't know.

602
00:41:47.640 --> 00:41:51.760
I really got asking you to like confirm this, you know?

603
00:41:51.760 --> 00:41:54.280
And then number five is just that question of like,

604
00:41:54.640 --> 00:41:56.920
is the voice causing torment?

605
00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:59.380
Because I don't think the torment is from the Lord

606
00:41:59.380 --> 00:42:00.560
for you at all.

607
00:42:02.200 --> 00:42:04.600
But I don't know, I believe in you.

608
00:42:04.600 --> 00:42:09.600
And I really am proud of you for just making

609
00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:11.920
the best decision you know how.

610
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:16.420
And I don't know, I'll be praying for you this week.

611
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:18.600
That's good.

612
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:23.500
A couple of things I read out.

613
00:42:23.540 --> 00:42:24.860
Daniel, you have your hand raised.

614
00:42:24.860 --> 00:42:26.300
Go ahead first.

615
00:42:26.300 --> 00:42:29.460
Yeah, hey, I wanted to, Thomas,

616
00:42:29.460 --> 00:42:30.780
I appreciate your gentle spirit.

617
00:42:30.780 --> 00:42:31.860
That's admirable.

618
00:42:32.940 --> 00:42:35.180
Chris, you know, I was just gonna say like,

619
00:42:35.180 --> 00:42:38.700
I think there's a lot to be said

620
00:42:38.700 --> 00:42:41.220
for our own free will, right?

621
00:42:41.220 --> 00:42:43.220
I mean, Jesus says like, I'm with you

622
00:42:43.220 --> 00:42:44.220
to the ends of the earth.

623
00:42:44.220 --> 00:42:46.740
And that includes Ohio and Florida, right?

624
00:42:46.740 --> 00:42:49.080
And so I think you have a certain,

625
00:42:49.080 --> 00:42:50.880
I think you have freedom to like,

626
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:52.140
it goes back to what David was saying.

627
00:42:52.140 --> 00:42:53.500
Like, what do you want?

628
00:42:53.500 --> 00:42:54.860
I mean, do you wanna go to Florida?

629
00:42:54.860 --> 00:42:57.480
Or does that sound totally horrible?

630
00:42:59.220 --> 00:43:01.420
And I think, you know, one of the things,

631
00:43:01.420 --> 00:43:03.060
a teaching that I came across recently

632
00:43:03.060 --> 00:43:07.620
that was really, that I just appreciated a lot

633
00:43:07.620 --> 00:43:11.340
was the idea that, you know, sometimes,

634
00:43:12.380 --> 00:43:16.220
I don't know that we are always guaranteed

635
00:43:16.220 --> 00:43:18.620
a sense of peace when we walk with God.

636
00:43:18.620 --> 00:43:20.100
He says he's with us.

637
00:43:20.100 --> 00:43:21.800
But I don't know that we're always guaranteed

638
00:43:22.460 --> 00:43:23.300
a sense of peace.

639
00:43:23.300 --> 00:43:25.800
And they were using the passage

640
00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:30.120
where the Israelites refused to go into the promised land

641
00:43:30.120 --> 00:43:32.360
because they didn't have peace about it.

642
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:33.720
And it wasn't like, you know,

643
00:43:33.720 --> 00:43:35.240
you'll know to go into the promised land

644
00:43:35.240 --> 00:43:37.240
because you have a sense of peace about it.

645
00:43:37.240 --> 00:43:39.360
It was like, you'll know to go into the promised land

646
00:43:39.360 --> 00:43:42.160
because I'm with you and I'm leading you into that path.

647
00:43:42.160 --> 00:43:44.160
And so the main takeaway from that teaching

648
00:43:44.160 --> 00:43:46.720
was like, the promises, the Holy Spirit

649
00:43:46.720 --> 00:43:49.240
is always gonna take us into the promised land

650
00:43:49.240 --> 00:43:53.480
and like deeper into God's will for our life,

651
00:43:53.480 --> 00:43:56.860
deeper into like an understanding of who he is to us.

652
00:43:56.860 --> 00:43:59.760
And yeah, I mean, I don't know.

653
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:04.760
I think sometimes we seek peace

654
00:44:04.960 --> 00:44:08.740
at the expense of entering the promised land.

655
00:44:08.740 --> 00:44:12.040
So yeah, but also, I mean,

656
00:44:12.040 --> 00:44:12.880
and also I was gonna say,

657
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:15.320
I hear you on like the relationship piece.

658
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:16.800
And I wanna just tell you like,

659
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:19.160
keep on the path that you're on

660
00:44:20.080 --> 00:44:23.040
because it is possible to have a relationship

661
00:44:23.040 --> 00:44:24.240
that brings you peace.

662
00:44:24.240 --> 00:44:26.640
It's like really great.

663
00:44:26.640 --> 00:44:28.400
So keep on the path, man.

664
00:44:28.400 --> 00:44:29.240
Don't give up.

665
00:44:29.240 --> 00:44:30.560
And we're here with you too.

666
00:44:30.560 --> 00:44:32.020
So you're not alone.

667
00:44:33.720 --> 00:44:34.880
You were gonna say something else?

668
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:36.600
Thanks, I appreciate it.

669
00:44:36.600 --> 00:44:37.480
Yeah, that's all.

670
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:40.600
That's real good.

671
00:44:40.600 --> 00:44:42.320
I appreciate that, Daniel.

672
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:46.860
Thanks and everybody chiming in on this.

673
00:44:46.860 --> 00:44:47.700
So good.

674
00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:51.320
I just wrote down a couple of statements

675
00:44:51.320 --> 00:44:55.760
that I just kind of collecting from things

676
00:44:55.760 --> 00:44:58.840
that other people have already said as well,

677
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:00.000
but they're just like,

678
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:06.440
They're just kind of absolutes, and they're based in Scripture, because first and foremost,

679
00:45:06.440 --> 00:45:13.040
we can't ever—this is something we need to contend for, guys—we can't ever be motivated

680
00:45:13.040 --> 00:45:14.920
by fear.

681
00:45:14.920 --> 00:45:21.520
Now even though we are, even though fear has a way of actually lighting the fire underneath

682
00:45:21.520 --> 00:45:30.920
you, we have to find a way to not be motivated by fear itself.

683
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:39.120
And we could talk a long time about the difference between fear or the difference between a good

684
00:45:39.120 --> 00:45:45.900
sort of like—there's times when I get up and when I awake in the morning, and sometimes

685
00:45:45.900 --> 00:45:51.780
I lie there, and I'm my own boss, so it's not like I have to like get to a nine-to-five

686
00:45:51.780 --> 00:45:52.780
or anything like that.

687
00:45:52.780 --> 00:45:56.820
I don't have like a schedule like that, so my schedule's my own.

688
00:45:56.820 --> 00:46:01.240
But I lay there for a second, and sometimes I'm like, I just want to lay here and go back

689
00:46:01.240 --> 00:46:03.820
to sleep, or I just want to do whatever.

690
00:46:03.820 --> 00:46:08.900
But then something gnaws at me, and it's just like, no, you need to get up, because something

691
00:46:08.900 --> 00:46:10.020
really needs to be done.

692
00:46:10.020 --> 00:46:14.300
Because if you don't do that, you know, then you're just going to get behind in your day,

693
00:46:14.300 --> 00:46:15.820
and you know this is always going to happen.

694
00:46:15.820 --> 00:46:20.140
So it's just kind of like this internal thing that's like, you know, sort of like trying

695
00:46:20.140 --> 00:46:29.300
to be an impetus for me to like, no, just go ahead and get up now, because, you know,

696
00:46:29.300 --> 00:46:33.020
it'd just be better if you would, because the earlier you get started, you're just going

697
00:46:33.020 --> 00:46:34.020
to get behind.

698
00:46:34.020 --> 00:46:35.020
You know how you go.

699
00:46:35.020 --> 00:46:40.020
You know, it's kind of like my inner voice talking to me, going, you know how this routine

700
00:46:40.020 --> 00:46:41.020
goes.

701
00:46:41.020 --> 00:46:43.500
Like, you're going to get behind, and this is what—so just get up now.

702
00:46:43.700 --> 00:46:45.900
Just do it, right?

703
00:46:45.900 --> 00:46:52.940
Other people, like my dad, he transferred—the voice in his head is, get your ass out of

704
00:46:52.940 --> 00:46:54.340
bed, Bobby.

705
00:46:54.340 --> 00:46:57.580
That's basically—that's my dad's version of the same thing.

706
00:46:57.580 --> 00:47:02.540
You know, like, alarm just went off, you know, get up.

707
00:47:02.540 --> 00:47:06.460
So whatever the internal voice is, but is that fear that's motivating me?

708
00:47:06.460 --> 00:47:08.420
I don't know if it's fear.

709
00:47:08.420 --> 00:47:09.420
It doesn't feel good.

710
00:47:09.420 --> 00:47:11.780
It feels like a sort of like a nervousness, it's like anxiousness.

711
00:47:11.820 --> 00:47:16.340
I don't know what to call that, but I'm not necessarily calling that fear.

712
00:47:16.340 --> 00:47:17.340
Urgency.

713
00:47:17.340 --> 00:47:20.020
Urgency, maybe, however you want to call it.

714
00:47:20.020 --> 00:47:21.020
Moving with purpose.

715
00:47:21.020 --> 00:47:24.900
Yeah, so living with purpose, you know, sort of the good sort of thing.

716
00:47:24.900 --> 00:47:29.820
So there is, like, I'm not talking about those kinds of things, but I'm talking literally

717
00:47:29.820 --> 00:47:35.500
about we cannot operate from the position or be motivated from the position of the fear

718
00:47:35.500 --> 00:47:42.660
of loss or just fear itself, intimidation and fear itself, all that kind of thing.

719
00:47:42.660 --> 00:47:49.180
We have to reject fear because it literally is the opposite of the currency of the kingdom

720
00:47:49.180 --> 00:47:50.180
that we live in.

721
00:47:50.180 --> 00:47:56.900
We live in the kingdom of light, and love is the currency of the kingdom.

722
00:47:56.900 --> 00:47:58.300
So we have to operate.

723
00:47:58.300 --> 00:47:59.860
We have to contend for that.

724
00:47:59.860 --> 00:48:01.980
So fear, no bueno.

725
00:48:01.980 --> 00:48:03.580
Fear has to be out.

726
00:48:04.580 --> 00:48:08.140
If that's a struggle, then we have to come against that, right?

727
00:48:08.140 --> 00:48:10.580
So that's just a principle I want to lay down.

728
00:48:10.580 --> 00:48:15.540
The other thing in terms of, like, Dan was talking about peace, there's another thing

729
00:48:15.540 --> 00:48:22.180
that kind of goes with peace, and I felt like we've led, like, I had experience like this.

730
00:48:22.180 --> 00:48:26.180
It's not only peace, but it's also grace.

731
00:48:26.180 --> 00:48:32.660
And what I mean by grace is there's sometimes things that we feel like we're supposed to

732
00:48:32.740 --> 00:48:42.740
do, or that even we want to do, that we go about the process of going to do them.

733
00:48:42.740 --> 00:48:47.300
And then there's all these things that really stand in the way.

734
00:48:47.300 --> 00:48:51.620
And I'm not talking about just, like, obstacles keeping you from your destiny.

735
00:48:51.620 --> 00:48:55.020
I'm talking about just, like, things are just not working out.

736
00:48:55.020 --> 00:49:01.060
And then some people are so committed to their sort of, like, false narrative, if you will.

737
00:49:01.220 --> 00:49:05.580
Like, I have to do this, or I should do this, or I'm supposed to do this, that they literally

738
00:49:05.580 --> 00:49:08.620
force the thing.

739
00:49:08.620 --> 00:49:11.180
And there's, like, no grace in it at all.

740
00:49:11.180 --> 00:49:14.660
So it's not just peace, but it's also grace as well.

741
00:49:14.660 --> 00:49:19.100
There's a time that we learned this, Jackie and I, we did it, we learned this as sort

742
00:49:19.100 --> 00:49:22.820
of an object lesson when we bought a car a couple cars ago.

743
00:49:22.820 --> 00:49:25.540
And we're like, did you notice how easy that process was?

744
00:49:25.540 --> 00:49:27.860
We're like, yeah, that was really weird.

745
00:49:27.860 --> 00:49:30.140
Usually buying a car is not an easy process.

746
00:49:30.220 --> 00:49:34.740
It's like this long, belabored sales thing, and you have to go through all of these rudiments.

747
00:49:34.740 --> 00:49:38.260
And everybody knows when you go into a dealership, you have to go through all the hoops and everything

748
00:49:38.260 --> 00:49:39.260
to do that.

749
00:49:39.260 --> 00:49:41.900
And it just wasn't that way.

750
00:49:41.900 --> 00:49:45.100
And we're like, man, this is so cool.

751
00:49:45.100 --> 00:49:46.700
We just felt the grace on this.

752
00:49:46.700 --> 00:49:51.940
We felt like we felt that was God showing us, like, hey, it doesn't have to be difficult.

753
00:49:51.940 --> 00:49:57.700
You know, sometimes it is a little difficult, and sometimes you want to persevere through

754
00:49:57.700 --> 00:49:58.700
stuff.

755
00:49:58.700 --> 00:49:59.980
But there's a certain grace sometimes that can come through.

756
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.560
and be gone with things that are like of the Lord,

757
00:50:03.560 --> 00:50:04.840
if you will.

758
00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:07.760
And so there's peace and grace.

759
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:10.760
So if you're forcing something, that might be a clue.

760
00:50:12.720 --> 00:50:14.800
Persevering through obstacles

761
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:19.000
and sort of like the obstacles of your enemy is one thing,

762
00:50:19.000 --> 00:50:21.640
but also forcing something that like,

763
00:50:21.640 --> 00:50:24.240
either you think you should want or whatever,

764
00:50:24.240 --> 00:50:27.280
that doesn't seem to be filled with grace.

765
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:29.840
So there's that.

766
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:30.880
And then the other one,

767
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:35.880
the other thing I wanna say is that rules are for babies.

768
00:50:40.360 --> 00:50:41.640
Take that in for just a second.

769
00:50:41.640 --> 00:50:44.040
Rules are for babies.

770
00:50:48.320 --> 00:50:50.240
You agree with that or disagree?

771
00:50:50.240 --> 00:50:51.120
Yes or no?

772
00:50:51.120 --> 00:50:52.240
Thumbs up, thumbs down.

773
00:50:52.240 --> 00:50:53.160
I agree.

774
00:50:54.200 --> 00:50:55.760
Rules are for babies.

775
00:50:56.640 --> 00:50:58.400
They're also for rebels.

776
00:51:00.520 --> 00:51:01.880
Rules are for rebels?

777
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:05.400
Yeah, because people think that because we're a rebel,

778
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:06.240
we can do what we want.

779
00:51:06.240 --> 00:51:07.080
Oh, I see.

780
00:51:07.080 --> 00:51:08.880
Yeah, rules are meant to keep rebels at bay.

781
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:09.720
Yeah, I get you.

782
00:51:09.720 --> 00:51:12.360
And also when we get where we don't have rules,

783
00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:13.640
we can do what we want,

784
00:51:13.640 --> 00:51:15.240
we end up into more captive.

785
00:51:15.240 --> 00:51:18.160
We end up having our captivity of our own.

786
00:51:18.160 --> 00:51:21.840
So the scriptural precedent for this is very, very strong.

787
00:51:21.960 --> 00:51:23.840
We understand from Romans,

788
00:51:23.840 --> 00:51:26.000
we understand from the Old Testament

789
00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:28.320
in terms of the law that was given.

790
00:51:28.320 --> 00:51:30.000
I'm not gonna quote all the scriptures,

791
00:51:30.000 --> 00:51:31.920
but I think we understand that,

792
00:51:33.920 --> 00:51:38.920
my five-year-old has rules.

793
00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:41.360
I don't have a five-year-old.

794
00:51:41.360 --> 00:51:43.280
Actually, my twin grandbabies are two.

795
00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:44.520
They're about to be three.

796
00:51:44.520 --> 00:51:48.880
So they have rules and they have rules.

797
00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:51.760
They have rules and they have,

798
00:51:53.040 --> 00:51:54.240
can't do this, can't go there,

799
00:51:54.240 --> 00:51:55.880
can't go up the stairs, can't do this.

800
00:51:55.880 --> 00:51:57.160
You know why?

801
00:51:57.160 --> 00:52:00.240
Primarily at that age, because it's for their own safety.

802
00:52:00.240 --> 00:52:02.000
They do not know any better.

803
00:52:02.000 --> 00:52:04.200
They need to know what is this and what is that.

804
00:52:04.200 --> 00:52:06.200
They need to know the difference between right and wrong.

805
00:52:06.200 --> 00:52:08.920
This is the purpose of the law that was given.

806
00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:10.520
You needed to know.

807
00:52:10.520 --> 00:52:13.320
It says in Romans, I believe,

808
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:15.600
that when the law was given, that sin increased.

809
00:52:15.600 --> 00:52:18.080
We're like, oh my God, sin increased.

810
00:52:18.080 --> 00:52:19.840
That wouldn't be something that God would want.

811
00:52:19.840 --> 00:52:21.720
Why would God want sin to increase?

812
00:52:21.720 --> 00:52:23.160
Why do you give him the law to begin with?

813
00:52:23.160 --> 00:52:24.280
Because then sin increased.

814
00:52:24.280 --> 00:52:26.760
Why would that, that doesn't make any sense.

815
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:30.920
No, what it means is that once the law was given,

816
00:52:30.920 --> 00:52:33.240
the dark line was drawn in the sand,

817
00:52:33.240 --> 00:52:37.040
then people knew what was good and what was bad.

818
00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:41.160
Then the understanding, the consciousness

819
00:52:41.160 --> 00:52:46.160
of what was acceptable or not, i.e. sin, was clarified.

820
00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:50.560
And then it was understood, oh, I'm way over the line here.

821
00:52:50.560 --> 00:52:54.320
I need to draw this back and get my life, you know,

822
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:57.000
or I'm doing really good in this area.

823
00:52:57.000 --> 00:53:01.600
But again, it is for an immature, young,

824
00:53:03.080 --> 00:53:05.400
Paul talks about this, I believe it's Paul.

825
00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:08.480
He talks about, you know, when I was a babe,

826
00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:11.480
I did the things as a child, and now I do things as an adult.

827
00:53:12.360 --> 00:53:13.640
And of course, the New Testament

828
00:53:13.640 --> 00:53:14.960
also gives us this understanding.

829
00:53:14.960 --> 00:53:18.320
Paul says that everything is legal.

830
00:53:19.520 --> 00:53:21.200
Everything is allowed.

831
00:53:21.200 --> 00:53:22.920
Just not all things are expedient.

832
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:24.920
Just not all things are the best things.

833
00:53:26.200 --> 00:53:28.960
And religion has a way of putting this yoke

834
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:33.520
upon good, well-meaning, Jesus-loving people

835
00:53:33.520 --> 00:53:35.000
that says, you can't do this.

836
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:36.160
You have to do it a certain way,

837
00:53:36.160 --> 00:53:38.360
and you have to do it in certain constructs,

838
00:53:38.360 --> 00:53:39.440
and you have to follow God.

839
00:53:39.440 --> 00:53:42.560
And if you don't, you're gonna be out of the way,

840
00:53:42.560 --> 00:53:44.480
and you're gonna mess up your life.

841
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:46.360
And it is a burden, it is a yoke,

842
00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:50.000
and it is the yoke of religion that does that.

843
00:53:50.000 --> 00:53:53.800
And it keeps you in a level of immaturity.

844
00:53:55.680 --> 00:54:00.680
It doesn't allow you to be freely receiving

845
00:54:01.280 --> 00:54:04.200
and freely operating in the fullness

846
00:54:04.200 --> 00:54:06.040
of what God has called you to be.

847
00:54:06.040 --> 00:54:08.120
And we all deal with it.

848
00:54:08.120 --> 00:54:10.360
Even if you didn't grow up in a religious environment,

849
00:54:10.360 --> 00:54:12.320
there are certain cultural norms that say,

850
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:13.360
you can't do this.

851
00:54:13.400 --> 00:54:15.000
You're from the wrong side of the tracks.

852
00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:16.400
You're not the right skin color.

853
00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:18.200
You're not, you know, you can't do this, blah, blah, blah.

854
00:54:18.200 --> 00:54:20.760
All these shoulds, all the stuff that's put on you.

855
00:54:21.680 --> 00:54:23.400
And then it's important scripturally,

856
00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:28.080
I think, to also come against that,

857
00:54:28.080 --> 00:54:30.160
to come against that as a mindset,

858
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:32.880
and begin to like freedom.

859
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:35.720
Have you ever wondered why you look at somebody like,

860
00:54:35.720 --> 00:54:38.240
why does that guy seem so free?

861
00:54:38.240 --> 00:54:39.240
Why does that guy seem,

862
00:54:39.240 --> 00:54:41.400
does he just do whatever he wants to do?

863
00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:42.680
Like, I don't understand that.

864
00:54:42.680 --> 00:54:43.520
And the thing about it is,

865
00:54:43.520 --> 00:54:44.840
is he never pays the consequences.

866
00:54:44.840 --> 00:54:47.720
He's like actually doing good things, successful.

867
00:54:47.720 --> 00:54:49.960
I guess that guy just seems like he can just do

868
00:54:49.960 --> 00:54:52.160
whatever he wants to do.

869
00:54:54.080 --> 00:54:56.720
And sometimes it's, you know, really good stuff.

870
00:54:56.720 --> 00:54:58.760
And sometimes it's not so good stuff,

871
00:54:58.760 --> 00:55:00.240
but he never gets in trouble.

872
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.480
Well, he never pays the cost for it.

873
00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:05.800
Why are there people that just, they're just so free?

874
00:55:07.320 --> 00:55:09.960
Because at some point in their life,

875
00:55:09.960 --> 00:55:13.200
they either didn't have the yoke of like a religion

876
00:55:13.200 --> 00:55:15.600
or something like that that was put on them,

877
00:55:15.600 --> 00:55:20.600
or they came out of that mindset at some point,

878
00:55:21.080 --> 00:55:22.780
a coming of age or whatever it is.

879
00:55:24.360 --> 00:55:26.720
And I think it's very important

880
00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:30.840
to be intentionally resistant against that

881
00:55:32.120 --> 00:55:35.600
because that's such a thing that holds people back.

882
00:55:35.600 --> 00:55:38.680
So it's almost like I get inspired by phrases

883
00:55:38.680 --> 00:55:41.440
like, what would you do if you know you couldn't fail?

884
00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:44.960
This is the whole point of like,

885
00:55:44.960 --> 00:55:46.760
when God comes around to you, puts his arm around,

886
00:55:46.760 --> 00:55:48.280
he says, you're doing great.

887
00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:51.400
So all what I expected, but you're doing a great job.

888
00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:53.360
That's actually funny.

889
00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:55.120
And it's like, they're like sad,

890
00:55:55.160 --> 00:55:58.480
but it's also very encouraging on the flip side of that.

891
00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:01.960
It's like, bro, just go and do

892
00:56:05.520 --> 00:56:08.820
and allow God to like help you sort it all out.

893
00:56:10.680 --> 00:56:12.800
That's such a huge lesson in life.

894
00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:17.800
It's like, it's easy to say, but it's hard to unravel.

895
00:56:20.720 --> 00:56:22.080
So I feel like it's in a way,

896
00:56:22.080 --> 00:56:24.480
I feel like it's what we all deal with,

897
00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:27.200
and what we're all persevering against.

898
00:56:29.080 --> 00:56:30.520
When I was just looking up the scripture,

899
00:56:30.520 --> 00:56:33.160
Psalm 37, four, delight yourself in the Lord,

900
00:56:34.640 --> 00:56:37.120
and he will give you the desires of your heart.

901
00:56:38.080 --> 00:56:40.120
John 15, seven from the New Testament.

902
00:56:40.120 --> 00:56:42.740
If you remain in me and my words remain to you,

903
00:56:44.520 --> 00:56:49.200
whatever, ask whatever you wish,

904
00:56:49.200 --> 00:56:51.280
and it will be done for you.

905
00:56:51.280 --> 00:56:53.380
Those are really strong statements.

906
00:56:54.680 --> 00:56:57.520
That has, those two statements in and of itself,

907
00:56:57.520 --> 00:56:58.920
and I can't just take one scripture

908
00:56:58.920 --> 00:57:00.960
and just like write your whole theology on it.

909
00:57:00.960 --> 00:57:03.840
I'm just saying, these are really strong statements.

910
00:57:03.840 --> 00:57:07.100
These are biblical scriptural statements

911
00:57:07.100 --> 00:57:11.000
that are encouraging you to step into,

912
00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:13.320
like I've said this weeks ago.

913
00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:16.960
It's like, when I'm asking somebody, what do you want?

914
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:18.400
I'm not asking, do you want,

915
00:57:18.400 --> 00:57:20.120
like, well, I wanna go out and sell drugs

916
00:57:20.120 --> 00:57:22.040
and do illicit things and do terrible things

917
00:57:22.040 --> 00:57:27.040
and, you know, bang prostitutes and go out and smoke crack.

918
00:57:27.440 --> 00:57:30.120
I'm not asking people who wanna do that.

919
00:57:30.120 --> 00:57:32.680
I'm asking, I'm talking to people who are good people,

920
00:57:32.680 --> 00:57:33.680
who are law abiding,

921
00:57:33.680 --> 00:57:36.000
who really want to do the right thing.

922
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:39.800
They have the desire to like do good things with their life.

923
00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:40.640
Are they perfect?

924
00:57:40.640 --> 00:57:42.160
No, but at the same time,

925
00:57:42.160 --> 00:57:44.760
I'm not asking a criminal, what do you want?

926
00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:48.800
I'm asking a good God-fearing person, what do you want?

927
00:57:49.720 --> 00:57:54.720
And then if you could reveal that in yourself

928
00:57:55.680 --> 00:58:00.680
and really embrace that and be free in that answer,

929
00:58:01.200 --> 00:58:03.040
I think there's a lot of powerful breakthrough

930
00:58:03.040 --> 00:58:04.360
that could be had in that.

931
00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:09.600
And I think it can be a real strong motivation

932
00:58:09.600 --> 00:58:12.560
to go after something and say, you know what I want?

933
00:58:12.560 --> 00:58:14.240
I really want this.

934
00:58:14.240 --> 00:58:15.600
So I'm gonna go after that.

935
00:58:16.560 --> 00:58:17.960
I'm gonna break that down into,

936
00:58:17.960 --> 00:58:20.600
what does it take for me to, you know,

937
00:58:21.560 --> 00:58:26.560
monthly, weekly, daily, hour by hour to accomplish this?

938
00:58:27.320 --> 00:58:29.840
Then that becomes your motivation instead of,

939
00:58:29.840 --> 00:58:33.920
oh my God, if I don't do this, I might lose something.

940
00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:35.760
I might do the wrong thing.

941
00:58:35.760 --> 00:58:38.120
I might do the wrong, I might be in the wrong place.

942
00:58:38.120 --> 00:58:40.640
I might be the, that has to be broken.

943
00:58:42.240 --> 00:58:47.240
That has to be broken and challenged in your life, resisted.

944
00:58:48.680 --> 00:58:50.680
Because I don't think that's the way God

945
00:58:52.080 --> 00:58:54.960
lovingly wants you to be.

946
00:58:54.960 --> 00:58:57.320
I think God is like, bro, come on, let's go.

947
00:58:57.320 --> 00:58:58.160
Let's do this.

948
00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:02.800
Holy Spirit is, the other thing is,

949
00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:06.000
difference between like fear and anxiety

950
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:10.040
or the motivation of Holy Spirit.

951
00:59:12.640 --> 00:59:17.640
Holy Spirit doesn't convict me of you're doing it wrong

952
00:59:18.120 --> 00:59:20.480
that's not good, that's not the right,

953
00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:21.320
dah, dah, dah, dah, dah.

954
00:59:21.320 --> 00:59:23.360
That's not what Holy Spirit does.

955
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:26.320
The whole voice of Holy Spirit in my life

956
00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:28.200
reinforces everything Jesus said,

957
00:59:28.200 --> 00:59:31.480
reinforces every principle of heaven.

958
00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:33.640
And he does it with a convincing.

959
00:59:33.640 --> 00:59:36.360
Like, let me just tell you more of who you are.

960
00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:38.960
Let me convince you more of what's really going on.

961
00:59:38.960 --> 00:59:40.960
Let me tell you the truth about this person

962
00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:42.400
that's this situation.

963
00:59:42.400 --> 00:59:46.160
Let me give you some insight so that you can be more full

964
00:59:46.160 --> 00:59:49.040
and free to step into the reality

965
00:59:49.040 --> 00:59:51.240
of who you really, really, really are.

966
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:55.320
That is super powerful.

967
00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:58.640
That is like the most loving father coming in and go,

968
00:59:58.640 --> 01:00:00.520
you can do this, bro, let me help you.

969
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:02.960
Let's go, let's do this.

970
01:00:02.960 --> 01:00:06.360
That is what we are connected to in the kingdom.

971
01:00:06.360 --> 01:00:10.520
That's what we're connected to in brotherly fellowship.

972
01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:20.680
So I don't know, that's just my thoughts on that.

973
01:00:20.680 --> 01:00:24.640
I could say a lot more, but we're over the hour,

974
01:00:24.640 --> 01:00:28.000
and I don't want to go too much longer.

975
01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:33.040
But any reactions to that?

976
01:00:33.040 --> 01:00:35.160
Another thing is when you mention fear,

977
01:00:35.160 --> 01:00:37.800
when they say God-fearing, they don't mean fear of God,

978
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:41.440
like a literal fear, but do fear out of reverence.

979
01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:43.960
Well, there's some kinds of fear that are healthy.

980
01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:45.920
Some are fear of the consequence.

981
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:50.440
Like, for example, I know that when I drive and do my job,

982
01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:52.940
I don't want to hit anything because of fear of consequence.

983
01:00:52.940 --> 01:00:54.680
So that's because of boundaries.

984
01:00:54.680 --> 01:00:56.040
But you can't do it out of fear.

985
01:00:56.040 --> 01:00:59.480
You want to say, oh, I don't want self-consequence,

986
01:00:59.480 --> 01:01:01.000
so I'm going to avoid that.

987
01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:02.920
Because the fear is to discourage you

988
01:01:02.920 --> 01:01:05.360
from wanting to go commit stuff.

989
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:07.040
So is that an OK fear?

990
01:01:07.040 --> 01:01:11.920
Because that really helped me, I'm acting all immature.

991
01:01:11.920 --> 01:01:16.960
The fear of God is not being afraid of God, Hunter.

992
01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:19.280
It's the love of God.

993
01:01:19.280 --> 01:01:20.160
That's it.

994
01:01:20.160 --> 01:01:22.480
That's what I mean, reverence.

995
01:01:22.480 --> 01:01:23.920
That's what I mean by fear of God.

996
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:24.800
There you go.

997
01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:26.280
That's what I was telling you.

998
01:01:31.080 --> 01:01:31.720
Anybody else?

999
01:01:37.320 --> 01:01:39.480
Clapping, all right.

1000
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:42.080
Well, I'll say something.

1001
01:01:42.080 --> 01:01:42.800
Yeah, go ahead.

1002
01:01:45.640 --> 01:01:47.480
So my life, guys, I messed up.

1003
01:01:47.480 --> 01:01:49.920
Well, I made some mistakes when I was younger.

1004
01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:52.240
And so I went to a lot of counseling.

1005
01:01:52.240 --> 01:01:55.000
And this one counselor, he was super hard on me.

1006
01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:56.760
Because I think you just saw a young guy.

1007
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:02.440
And so long story short, you're kind of like a prisoner

1008
01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:04.560
in your own mind.

1009
01:02:04.560 --> 01:02:09.800
And you need to get out of jail out of your own head, right?

1010
01:02:09.800 --> 01:02:13.160
So you're trapped in your own head.

1011
01:02:13.160 --> 01:02:15.680
And for me, some of that mechanism

1012
01:02:15.680 --> 01:02:17.800
has always been using God as a key, right?

1013
01:02:17.800 --> 01:02:20.680
So God and my faith and stuff has always

1014
01:02:20.680 --> 01:02:25.240
been a part of my process continually

1015
01:02:25.240 --> 01:02:32.360
to free myself from when I fall back into bad thoughts,

1016
01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:37.480
like bad thoughts meaning lack of confidence.

1017
01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:39.360
Maybe you think you cannot do it.

1018
01:02:39.360 --> 01:02:43.560
Maybe you think you're not good enough for future things.

1019
01:02:43.560 --> 01:02:48.800
And so everyone here has their own little mechanisms.

1020
01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:52.600
But David kind of sounds like he's

1021
01:02:52.600 --> 01:02:55.200
like you got to free yourself from your own bondage

1022
01:02:55.200 --> 01:02:57.560
in your own head.

1023
01:02:57.560 --> 01:03:01.240
And so you could be free to move forward.

1024
01:03:01.240 --> 01:03:04.400
And so that's what I kind of heard.

1025
01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:06.360
And so we all do that differently.

1026
01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:09.320
But yeah, you definitely got to free yourself.

1027
01:03:09.320 --> 01:03:13.320
Once you're free, man, sky's the limit.

1028
01:03:13.320 --> 01:03:15.400
You don't have to do anything.

1029
01:03:15.400 --> 01:03:18.760
But yeah, so if you could use God

1030
01:03:18.760 --> 01:03:24.920
and maybe try to help him free you from your own walls

1031
01:03:24.920 --> 01:03:29.040
or cages or bars, get out of jail, man.

1032
01:03:29.040 --> 01:03:30.520
Sucks in there.

1033
01:03:30.520 --> 01:03:31.000
Hate it.

1034
01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:31.760
I hate it in there.

1035
01:03:31.760 --> 01:03:33.000
I'm never going back.

1036
01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:35.480
Never going back.

1037
01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:36.160
Yep.

1038
01:03:36.160 --> 01:03:38.680
I hate to quote something secular,

1039
01:03:38.680 --> 01:03:41.960
but if anyone has ever played the video game Assassin's

1040
01:03:41.960 --> 01:03:44.520
Creed, nothing is true.

1041
01:03:44.520 --> 01:03:46.520
Everything is permitted.

1042
01:03:46.520 --> 01:03:49.120
Even though you get freed from your jail,

1043
01:03:49.120 --> 01:03:56.080
almost like Plato's Allegory of the Cave, what Abram said,

1044
01:03:56.080 --> 01:03:58.560
the sky's the limit, is like, I'm free out here.

1045
01:03:58.560 --> 01:04:00.960
But now there's like all this stuff

1046
01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:04.320
in the world that will bring me right back

1047
01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:07.880
into that same mental prison of jail.

1048
01:04:07.920 --> 01:04:10.800
And so it's kind of like how they

1049
01:04:10.800 --> 01:04:14.320
talk about how the devil is like a hungry lion that's

1050
01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:14.920
stalking you.

1051
01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:17.960
So it's almost like a double-edged sword

1052
01:04:17.960 --> 01:04:22.840
of not operating in fear of things,

1053
01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:25.400
but just being cognizant of like, hey,

1054
01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:28.520
you know, pretty sure the Bible's pretty

1055
01:04:28.520 --> 01:04:31.000
clear about sexual immorality.

1056
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:36.560
Yeah, I don't have to be afraid of these people

1057
01:04:36.560 --> 01:04:39.320
or these women out in the world, especially some of them

1058
01:04:39.320 --> 01:04:42.000
that dress not modestly.

1059
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:43.760
But at the same time, I'm also going

1060
01:04:43.760 --> 01:04:47.240
to make sure not to walk along that cliff's edge.

1061
01:04:47.240 --> 01:04:50.040
And to, and like for me especially,

1062
01:04:50.040 --> 01:04:54.520
because of my past, flee in the face of anything

1063
01:04:54.520 --> 01:04:56.360
that even resembles it.

1064
01:04:56.360 --> 01:05:01.120
Because I'm sure we all have pasts, and I love.

1065
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:01.080
A heck of a past.

1066
01:05:06.000 --> 01:05:07.360
That's all for me, Dave.

1067
01:05:07.360 --> 01:05:11.920
Oh, I was just like, okay, yeah.

1068
01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:12.760
That's good.

1069
01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:17.720
You guys ever seen that cartoon

1070
01:05:17.720 --> 01:05:20.720
where somebody's standing behind a wall with bars

1071
01:05:21.720 --> 01:05:23.160
and he's looking out through the bars

1072
01:05:23.160 --> 01:05:26.240
but there's no walls behind them or on the side of them.

1073
01:05:26.240 --> 01:05:28.520
It's just the ones that are right in front of them.

1074
01:05:28.600 --> 01:05:32.040
Yeah, and he thinks he can't go anywhere, so.

1075
01:05:32.040 --> 01:05:32.880
No, seriously though,

1076
01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:35.280
it's like when you come out of your cave though,

1077
01:05:35.280 --> 01:05:36.520
it can be very intimidating

1078
01:05:36.520 --> 01:05:39.040
because you'd be like, oh, wait a minute.

1079
01:05:39.040 --> 01:05:41.000
Now that is sort of another thing that kind of comes out

1080
01:05:41.000 --> 01:05:43.200
of this complete a whole nother discussion

1081
01:05:43.200 --> 01:05:45.960
but now the weight of everything

1082
01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:48.080
in terms of like the responsibility of like,

1083
01:05:48.080 --> 01:05:50.400
oh, wait a minute, you mean I can go out of here?

1084
01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:52.440
Some people retreat back into their cave

1085
01:05:52.440 --> 01:05:53.680
just as soon as they get out of it

1086
01:05:53.680 --> 01:05:54.520
because they're like,

1087
01:05:54.520 --> 01:05:55.920
hey, it was a lot more comfortable in the cave.

1088
01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:57.280
I was a lot more used to,

1089
01:05:57.280 --> 01:05:58.400
I was a lot more secure,

1090
01:05:58.400 --> 01:06:01.560
it was a lot more like I didn't have to like rely on,

1091
01:06:01.560 --> 01:06:03.080
you know, myself and everything.

1092
01:06:03.080 --> 01:06:06.320
So it can be intimidating coming out of that

1093
01:06:06.320 --> 01:06:10.280
but at the same time, you know, we have to move forward.

1094
01:06:10.280 --> 01:06:13.280
Yeah, there's this thing that in my head always tells me,

1095
01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:15.880
it's kind of like, I have to do this,

1096
01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:17.000
I have to move forward,

1097
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:19.760
I have to face my fears if you will

1098
01:06:20.640 --> 01:06:23.640
because if I don't, I'm not gonna grow, you know?

1099
01:06:23.680 --> 01:06:25.960
I'm not gonna, I'm not going to,

1100
01:06:25.960 --> 01:06:27.800
I'm not gonna go and accomplish

1101
01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:32.680
and be the things that I feel like I want to be, you know?

1102
01:06:32.680 --> 01:06:37.680
I feel like I want what I feel like I aspire to be,

1103
01:06:39.600 --> 01:06:41.160
I want those things to be true.

1104
01:06:42.520 --> 01:06:44.960
In other words, I don't want to aspire to be something

1105
01:06:44.960 --> 01:06:46.800
and then just like be it in name

1106
01:06:46.800 --> 01:06:50.320
or in sort of like position only.

1107
01:06:50.320 --> 01:06:53.920
I want to actually be credible in that.

1108
01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:57.240
And so in other words, for me to be able to have that,

1109
01:06:57.240 --> 01:07:01.120
I have to go do the tasks, I have to do the assignment,

1110
01:07:01.120 --> 01:07:06.120
I have to get it, you know, I have to be legitimate, you know?

1111
01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:10.240
I had a thought the other day that was really not good.

1112
01:07:10.240 --> 01:07:12.560
It was a perverse thought,

1113
01:07:12.560 --> 01:07:13.800
it was just walking through the store

1114
01:07:13.800 --> 01:07:15.720
and I just had this sort of like scenario

1115
01:07:15.720 --> 01:07:20.160
go through my head and I had the choice.

1116
01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:23.400
I was just like, I could entertain that scenario

1117
01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:27.160
or I could like cut it off.

1118
01:07:27.160 --> 01:07:30.360
And so I didn't feel like in the past,

1119
01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:32.680
just cutting it off, like saying, no, that's not good,

1120
01:07:32.680 --> 01:07:34.560
that's bad, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

1121
01:07:34.560 --> 01:07:35.720
It doesn't work for me.

1122
01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:39.760
Because at some point I get to the point where I don't care.

1123
01:07:39.760 --> 01:07:40.680
I don't care if it's not good.

1124
01:07:40.680 --> 01:07:43.120
I just, you know, whatever feels good, right?

1125
01:07:43.120 --> 01:07:44.640
And that to me doesn't work.

1126
01:07:44.640 --> 01:07:47.840
What works for me is if I have a conversation with God

1127
01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:49.640
to call it out.

1128
01:07:49.680 --> 01:07:51.480
I'm walking and I'm literally talking to myself

1129
01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:53.480
while I'm going through the store by myself,

1130
01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:55.160
just doing grocery shopping.

1131
01:07:55.160 --> 01:07:58.120
And I'm like, Lord, seriously?

1132
01:07:58.120 --> 01:08:00.400
I'm like, why this thought?

1133
01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:01.240
Where's this coming from?

1134
01:08:01.240 --> 01:08:02.280
Like, what is around me?

1135
01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:06.600
And I was like, seriously, I need help with this.

1136
01:08:06.600 --> 01:08:08.200
Like, you have to get me out of this

1137
01:08:08.200 --> 01:08:09.680
or you have to get this out of my head

1138
01:08:09.680 --> 01:08:12.400
or you have to like help me understand

1139
01:08:12.400 --> 01:08:13.600
how long is this gonna be?

1140
01:08:13.600 --> 01:08:15.520
How long am I gonna contend with this?

1141
01:08:16.640 --> 01:08:18.720
You know what I'm saying?

1142
01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:20.840
And what if I am contending with it

1143
01:08:20.840 --> 01:08:22.680
for just the rest of my life?

1144
01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:25.680
Does that mean I'm not good?

1145
01:08:25.680 --> 01:08:27.359
Does that mean I'm not growing?

1146
01:08:27.359 --> 01:08:31.359
No, it just means I'm continually probably being tempted.

1147
01:08:32.520 --> 01:08:34.040
Jesus was tempted.

1148
01:08:35.200 --> 01:08:36.680
Jesus was perfect.

1149
01:08:37.760 --> 01:08:40.560
That doesn't resonate for some people

1150
01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:42.640
because, well, he was tempted.

1151
01:08:42.640 --> 01:08:46.080
But do you understand that temptation is not the deed,

1152
01:08:46.080 --> 01:08:47.479
right?

1153
01:08:47.479 --> 01:08:50.960
You understand that temptation is not the act.

1154
01:08:50.960 --> 01:08:55.960
You understand that temptation is not the, you know,

1155
01:08:55.960 --> 01:09:00.960
drawing on and feeding on coming down into your heart.

1156
01:09:04.960 --> 01:09:06.319
You understand that, right?

1157
01:09:08.040 --> 01:09:11.319
So that's kind of where you're like drawing the line

1158
01:09:11.319 --> 01:09:12.720
if you wanna do it that way.

1159
01:09:13.720 --> 01:09:15.000
But hallelujah to that, David.

1160
01:09:15.000 --> 01:09:17.920
That actually feels very invigorating

1161
01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:21.439
to hear the conversations with God in the midst of things.

1162
01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:22.279
I mean, I-

1163
01:09:22.279 --> 01:09:23.520
Yeah, because the thing about it is I can't,

1164
01:09:23.520 --> 01:09:26.920
you have to do that because I can't regulate myself.

1165
01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:31.680
I mean, I can try, but eventually I'm just gonna fail.

1166
01:09:33.160 --> 01:09:35.040
Especially in things that are like the things

1167
01:09:35.040 --> 01:09:37.319
that are like whatever my thing is,

1168
01:09:37.319 --> 01:09:38.880
whatever your thing is.

1169
01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:40.560
Yeah, my paradigm.

1170
01:09:40.560 --> 01:09:41.640
Yeah, whatever my paradigm.

1171
01:09:41.760 --> 01:09:43.840
Like smoking a cigarette, going out and doing drugs

1172
01:09:43.840 --> 01:09:47.640
and just drinking myself as a stupor, not a big deal.

1173
01:09:48.920 --> 01:09:50.600
Doesn't bother me a bit.

1174
01:09:50.600 --> 01:09:51.439
Can I have a drink of beer?

1175
01:09:51.439 --> 01:09:52.279
Yeah.

1176
01:09:52.279 --> 01:09:53.120
Can I drink two beers?

1177
01:09:53.120 --> 01:09:53.960
Yeah, not a big deal.

1178
01:09:55.560 --> 01:09:58.400
That has no bearing on me.

1179
01:09:58.400 --> 01:10:00.120
Other things, yeah.

1180
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:02.580
It's just like, yeah, man, that's like a,

1181
01:10:04.000 --> 01:10:05.440
I'm gonna struggle with that.

1182
01:10:07.040 --> 01:10:08.640
What's that gonna be like?

1183
01:10:08.640 --> 01:10:10.520
So I just started calling it out.

1184
01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:11.880
And this is years ago, I was just like,

1185
01:10:11.880 --> 01:10:14.400
Lord, I just, I'm not gonna try to regulate myself anymore.

1186
01:10:14.400 --> 01:10:16.520
I'm just not gonna try to police myself.

1187
01:10:16.520 --> 01:10:17.660
This is ridiculous.

1188
01:10:19.600 --> 01:10:21.520
I'm gonna start calling it out.

1189
01:10:21.520 --> 01:10:23.280
You know, so I just have a conversation with the father.

1190
01:10:23.280 --> 01:10:25.860
I said, Lord, God, seriously.

1191
01:10:25.860 --> 01:10:27.280
Like me, like is my dad.

1192
01:10:28.400 --> 01:10:29.420
Dad, come on.

1193
01:10:30.680 --> 01:10:34.420
You know, I need an answer here.

1194
01:10:34.420 --> 01:10:35.260
I need a help.

1195
01:10:35.260 --> 01:10:36.320
I need a way out.

1196
01:10:37.520 --> 01:10:38.520
What's gonna happen?

1197
01:10:39.800 --> 01:10:43.100
And that works way better than,

1198
01:10:44.240 --> 01:10:45.800
and I don't beat myself up for like,

1199
01:10:45.800 --> 01:10:48.220
well, where did that thought come from?

1200
01:10:48.220 --> 01:10:50.440
My God, that was horrible.

1201
01:10:50.440 --> 01:10:52.680
That like, that's just like wicked.

1202
01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:55.000
I don't be, I'm like,

1203
01:10:55.000 --> 01:10:56.680
cause it just comes from without.

1204
01:10:57.680 --> 01:11:01.220
It comes from a source of, that's not inside me.

1205
01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:06.960
It's trying to connect to me, but it's not me.

1206
01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:08.940
It's not who I am.

1207
01:11:11.280 --> 01:11:13.240
I don't know if that helps.

1208
01:11:13.240 --> 01:11:14.160
Totally does, man.

1209
01:11:16.080 --> 01:11:19.340
Like only after starting, getting back into the word,

1210
01:11:19.340 --> 01:11:21.940
it's just kind of easier to pick up on God's voice.

1211
01:11:21.940 --> 01:11:24.480
Like I've had conversations with him in the past

1212
01:11:24.520 --> 01:11:27.880
and it's more like, kind of like sad to say

1213
01:11:27.880 --> 01:11:32.200
far and few between in the last three or four years.

1214
01:11:32.200 --> 01:11:33.280
And is it formal?

1215
01:11:34.400 --> 01:11:35.440
Is it formal?

1216
01:11:35.440 --> 01:11:36.800
Yeah, like a formality to it.

1217
01:11:36.800 --> 01:11:41.800
Like, oh, this is me, lowly, da, da, da, coming down.

1218
01:11:42.560 --> 01:11:43.400
No, no, no.

1219
01:11:44.800 --> 01:11:46.040
Is that formal?

1220
01:11:46.040 --> 01:11:47.720
Like a suit and tie or what?

1221
01:11:47.720 --> 01:11:50.800
Some people formalize the relationship

1222
01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:53.960
or some people always put it in the context of like,

1223
01:11:54.800 --> 01:11:58.120
the bad puppy dog that bays the tail between your back.

1224
01:11:58.120 --> 01:11:59.680
No, not at all.

1225
01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:03.080
He's just kind of like a warm embrace.

1226
01:12:03.080 --> 01:12:03.920
Good.

1227
01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:06.040
Kind of like how my grandfather used to hug me

1228
01:12:06.040 --> 01:12:10.680
and hold me by the hand and like build me up type of feeling

1229
01:12:10.680 --> 01:12:13.560
and it's actually reminds me of a,

1230
01:12:13.560 --> 01:12:15.680
like not to put down Catholics,

1231
01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:19.720
cause I know that that came up recently in like some

1232
01:12:20.680 --> 01:12:23.160
whatever path session or a single spotlight thing

1233
01:12:23.160 --> 01:12:25.240
where somebody was talking in the chat.

1234
01:12:25.240 --> 01:12:29.160
But like I grew up Catholic and my mom was a Catholic.

1235
01:12:29.160 --> 01:12:31.920
And when I became just a born again, Christian,

1236
01:12:31.920 --> 01:12:35.400
spirit filled, she talked to me about how

1237
01:12:35.400 --> 01:12:38.720
she got to tour Europe and she got to experience

1238
01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:40.440
the cloth of Turin,

1239
01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:45.160
you know, the shroud that encapsulated Christ.

1240
01:12:45.160 --> 01:12:50.160
And she was expecting to feel all of this anger,

1241
01:12:50.360 --> 01:12:54.520
rage, wrath, just all the horribleness of, you know,

1242
01:12:54.520 --> 01:12:56.680
the world because it was basically the destruction

1243
01:12:56.680 --> 01:12:58.920
of like the perfect human being.

1244
01:13:00.440 --> 01:13:01.560
And she's like, and you know what I felt?

1245
01:13:01.560 --> 01:13:02.840
I'm like, yeah, love.

1246
01:13:02.840 --> 01:13:04.920
And she's like, how'd you know that?

1247
01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:07.840
It's interesting.

1248
01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:09.240
Yeah.

1249
01:13:09.240 --> 01:13:11.120
And it's that type of feeling.

1250
01:13:11.120 --> 01:13:16.080
It's more of those, like it's great when,

1251
01:13:16.080 --> 01:13:19.440
you know, it's kind of like detecting furniture

1252
01:13:19.720 --> 01:13:21.200
in the dark with your shins

1253
01:13:22.440 --> 01:13:23.920
in the sense of a spiritual battle.

1254
01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:26.000
Like it's great when I'm, it's great.

1255
01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:27.600
Yeah. Right.

1256
01:13:27.600 --> 01:13:29.600
It's great when I'm prepared

1257
01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:31.800
and I've like got my defenses up.

1258
01:13:31.800 --> 01:13:35.640
Like I'm at home, I'm going through like some dating thing.

1259
01:13:35.640 --> 01:13:37.360
And it's like some profile of like,

1260
01:13:37.360 --> 01:13:39.640
I just don't understand why I'm single, blah, blah, blah.

1261
01:13:39.640 --> 01:13:41.880
And then I'm like, oh, this seems like, all right.

1262
01:13:41.880 --> 01:13:45.960
And I feel that Holy spirit nudge of like, nah.

1263
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:47.520
And I'm like, huh?

1264
01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:49.320
And I scroll down the page and it's like,

1265
01:13:50.160 --> 01:13:52.040
by the way, homosexuality is not a sin.

1266
01:13:52.040 --> 01:13:53.480
Transgender is not a sin.

1267
01:13:53.480 --> 01:13:56.880
I'm like, thank you, Holy spirit.

1268
01:13:56.880 --> 01:13:57.720
Yeah.

1269
01:13:59.040 --> 01:14:00.200
Yeah. Okay.

1270
01:14:00.200 --> 01:14:02.280
Yeah. But it's, but it's, it's different when it's like

1271
01:14:02.280 --> 01:14:04.120
how you said, Dave, when I'm out in the world

1272
01:14:04.120 --> 01:14:06.320
and I'm like, especially in Vegas of all places,

1273
01:14:06.320 --> 01:14:09.360
like that's why for the most part, I don't go to the strip.

1274
01:14:09.360 --> 01:14:12.560
I don't do anything down there.

1275
01:14:12.560 --> 01:14:14.920
Cause it's just like a lot of,

1276
01:14:14.920 --> 01:14:16.440
well, for one, it's overwhelming, but two,

1277
01:14:16.440 --> 01:14:19.840
it's just like a lot of people come here

1278
01:14:19.840 --> 01:14:24.840
to not be good Christians, you know, but yeah.

1279
01:14:25.360 --> 01:14:28.000
But it's, but it's, but it's like that,

1280
01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:30.240
you telling me that you're having a conversation

1281
01:14:30.240 --> 01:14:32.880
with God out in public is like, man,

1282
01:14:32.880 --> 01:14:35.240
that actually ties into like how God's talking to me

1283
01:14:35.240 --> 01:14:37.560
about practicing, speaking things out loud.

1284
01:14:37.560 --> 01:14:41.000
So like, in addition to how I've been reading my Bible

1285
01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:46.000
and reading this 31 days of praying for my future wife book,

1286
01:14:46.360 --> 01:14:51.080
out loud, I've been on my way up singing worship music

1287
01:14:51.080 --> 01:14:54.360
and got, oh, not in trouble, but just an awkward moment

1288
01:14:54.360 --> 01:14:59.360
where I just, I jumped onto Supernatural Saturday,

1289
01:14:59.600 --> 01:15:00.440
turned off.

1290
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:03.540
my audio logged in before I started hiking so I didn't lose

1291
01:15:03.540 --> 01:15:08.580
the signal, put in my AirPods to listen to music and then started

1292
01:15:08.580 --> 01:15:12.180
singing. When I put in my AirPods, it turned my audio back

1293
01:15:12.180 --> 01:15:17.740
on on the zoom call. I got and thankfully, I wasn't like

1294
01:15:17.740 --> 01:15:20.140
cussing or nothing on the way up. But I definitely sounded

1295
01:15:20.140 --> 01:15:23.420
like probably like a dying dog moving uphill. Like even though

1296
01:15:23.420 --> 01:15:26.180
I'm in shape, I'm still like, Oh, man, I hate cardio. You

1297
01:15:26.180 --> 01:15:29.820
know, and I got to the top pulled out my phone. I'm like,

1298
01:15:29.860 --> 01:15:35.780
Oh, my God, my audio is on. And there's like 130 people on this

1299
01:15:35.780 --> 01:15:39.180
call already. And I just hear Thank you for the serenade. I'm

1300
01:15:39.180 --> 01:15:43.220
like, I feel awkward.

1301
01:15:46.300 --> 01:15:51.100
But yeah, it's a thank you. Thanks for your input tonight.

1302
01:15:51.140 --> 01:15:55.500
Thanks. Good conversation. We'll close it off here for now our

1303
01:15:55.500 --> 01:15:58.860
way over but love y'all. God bless y'all. Have a great, great

1304
01:15:58.860 --> 01:16:01.460
week. Pray for us. We're traveling a little bit this week

1305
01:16:01.500 --> 01:16:07.220
and and I wanted to hit this I made this comment. I'll put that

1306
01:16:07.260 --> 01:16:11.500
in the comments there. Do not be motivated by fear. Rules are for

1307
01:16:11.500 --> 01:16:14.180
babies. Grace, peace and grace comes back to what you want

1308
01:16:14.180 --> 01:16:18.700
because God wants to fulfill the desires of your heart. So God

1309
01:16:18.700 --> 01:16:21.460
bless y'all. Have a great, great week. See you soon.