WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:07.680 So I'm listening to that and I just start crying and weeping and uncontrollably and 2 00:00:07.680 --> 00:00:14.640 I had to pull off the side of the road and that's where I came face to face with my 3 00:00:14.640 --> 00:00:22.760 shame and my failures and my brokenness and that's when I really cried out to God. 4 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:35.640 Welcome back everybody to the Steve Holt podcast. 5 00:00:35.640 --> 00:00:41.320 I'm Ryan Steyer, the executive pastor at The Road and I'm here with Dr. Steve Holt, founder 6 00:00:41.320 --> 00:00:45.940 of The Road, senior pastor and author of the book Breakthrough Courage. 7 00:00:45.940 --> 00:00:50.680 Today we're going to be talking about habit number four, facing the unmentionables. 8 00:00:50.680 --> 00:00:56.220 And in my opinion, my humble opinion, I feel like this could be the most challenging chapter 9 00:00:56.220 --> 00:00:57.220 of the book. 10 00:00:57.220 --> 00:00:58.220 Yeah. 11 00:00:58.220 --> 00:00:59.220 So good. 12 00:00:59.220 --> 00:01:00.220 So challenging. 13 00:01:00.220 --> 00:01:01.220 Yeah. 14 00:01:01.220 --> 00:01:08.000 And I think the way I set it up with the other habits was really fortuitous. 15 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:12.400 I mean, I was doing the best that I could to try to figure out what's best for people. 16 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:20.420 But I think starting off with seeking the kingdom and then embracing hard, then developing 17 00:01:20.420 --> 00:01:28.960 bloodstained allies and now facing the unmentionables is a sequence that's really important because 18 00:01:29.700 --> 00:01:35.700 we're not going to be able to really do habit four without habit three, without habit two, 19 00:01:35.700 --> 00:01:37.280 without habit one. 20 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:41.640 So and then it turns out it's right in the middle, it's kind of right in the middle. 21 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:43.820 So it's sort of a pivot. 22 00:01:43.820 --> 00:01:50.040 It might even be kind of a pivot point about how bad do you want breakthrough courage in 23 00:01:50.040 --> 00:01:51.040 your life? 24 00:01:51.040 --> 00:01:52.040 Amen. 25 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:57.200 Well, you can't certainly get to the finish line of the full meaning and I think the desire 26 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:02.400 of breakthrough courage without, I mean, this, this is a hurdle you've got across kind 27 00:02:02.400 --> 00:02:03.400 of your Rubicon. 28 00:02:03.400 --> 00:02:09.240 I want to read off page 68 here, just as the outline or the definition of habit number 29 00:02:09.240 --> 00:02:10.240 four. 30 00:02:10.240 --> 00:02:15.900 And you write, it is the habit of facing the unmentionables of shame and failure. 31 00:02:15.900 --> 00:02:20.440 It's in being vulnerable over these areas we hate to talk about that true authentic 32 00:02:20.440 --> 00:02:21.960 healing can take place. 33 00:02:21.960 --> 00:02:27.720 Such courage to be vulnerable brings breakthrough into wholehearted living. 34 00:02:27.720 --> 00:02:32.640 So there's a lot there and you want to do a great job unpacking that later in the chapter. 35 00:02:32.640 --> 00:02:38.020 But as we talk about shame and failure, we had mentioned this, or you had mentioned this 36 00:02:38.020 --> 00:02:43.420 in I think, you know, habit number two, embracing the hard where we start to pose the blame 37 00:02:43.420 --> 00:02:46.400 game I think is really what that is. 38 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:52.920 And as we look at facing our unmentionables, the habit, I think maybe the default setting 39 00:02:52.920 --> 00:02:56.000 in our humanity is we go to the blame game somewhat. 40 00:02:56.000 --> 00:03:01.580 Now we've already unpacked that, but I think it applies here in how we take courage into 41 00:03:01.580 --> 00:03:03.720 our fear facing shame. 42 00:03:03.720 --> 00:03:05.560 Facing shame is such a huge thing. 43 00:03:05.560 --> 00:03:06.560 Yeah. 44 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:14.520 I think the mechanism within us that's part of our sinful side of our nature, coupled 45 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:23.060 with the accent that comes from culture itself, is to run and hide when anything fearful happens. 46 00:03:23.060 --> 00:03:32.600 So that sort of cortisol release within us is a fight or flight mechanism, but I think 47 00:03:32.600 --> 00:03:41.480 there's almost like a spiritual cortisol in us too that wants to run and hide and pretend 48 00:03:41.480 --> 00:03:48.280 like something that has happened to us in the past that deeply wounded us either didn't 49 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:50.760 happen or we just don't want to go there. 50 00:03:50.760 --> 00:03:58.040 And I think we don't want to go there because it's frightening to experience those emotions 51 00:03:58.040 --> 00:03:59.400 again. 52 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:05.480 Many times our experiences of the past are connected to an emotion and they create an 53 00:04:05.480 --> 00:04:07.640 emotion in us. 54 00:04:07.720 --> 00:04:15.560 And a lot of us spend most of our life running from negative emotions instead of facing them. 55 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:17.000 And so we don't mention them. 56 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:18.519 They're the unmentionables. 57 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:19.519 Yeah. 58 00:04:19.519 --> 00:04:20.920 Oh, that's so good. 59 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:26.440 I'm thinking some of those places, and later in the chapter you refer to them as our shame 60 00:04:26.440 --> 00:04:31.840 caves, caves by nature being shrouded in darkness. 61 00:04:31.840 --> 00:04:32.840 You know, they're often dark. 62 00:04:32.840 --> 00:04:34.720 You have to bring your own light into caves, whatnot. 63 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:37.040 There's some beautiful illustration there. 64 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:41.440 But around trauma, these are things that, when we're talking about our unmentionables 65 00:04:41.440 --> 00:04:50.640 today, when I think about that, I impact that it's resolving this desire for God's true 66 00:04:50.640 --> 00:04:54.760 freedom around the things that have either happened to us or the things that we've done 67 00:04:54.760 --> 00:04:58.440 to ourselves by our own story or testimony. 68 00:04:58.440 --> 00:05:00.000 Some of that can be around this idea of trauma. 69 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.040 trauma, the traumatic things that happen to us, 70 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:04.960 and then we reconcile or resolve. 71 00:05:04.960 --> 00:05:09.540 In some cases, stuffing, this idea of a stuffer, 72 00:05:09.540 --> 00:05:11.100 where we're just gonna kind of pack it down 73 00:05:11.100 --> 00:05:14.120 and hope that it doesn't surface up, 74 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:18.080 infection, we're able to keep that infection under control, 75 00:05:18.080 --> 00:05:21.020 continue to kind of medicate that infection. 76 00:05:21.020 --> 00:05:23.960 Yeah, what would you say, I mean, being a pastor, 77 00:05:23.960 --> 00:05:26.680 obviously people come for counsel oftentimes, 78 00:05:26.680 --> 00:05:29.160 and they're bringing their traumatic stories, 79 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:33.080 and it's almost like they want, there's this invitation 80 00:05:33.080 --> 00:05:35.060 where they almost wanna touch that iron, 81 00:05:35.060 --> 00:05:36.600 but then they back off. 82 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:38.200 You know, you're like, okay, you're not ready yet, 83 00:05:38.200 --> 00:05:40.160 you're not really ready to go there 84 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:42.520 and talk about the unmentionables. 85 00:05:42.520 --> 00:05:45.680 Holy Spirit's a huge part of that, Jesus in us, 86 00:05:45.680 --> 00:05:48.480 we just have to be open, and I think there's a sequence 87 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:49.640 that you unpack in the book, right, 88 00:05:49.640 --> 00:05:52.640 where we get before God first, 89 00:05:52.640 --> 00:05:54.840 and then we bring it to friends, trusted allies, 90 00:05:54.840 --> 00:05:56.560 bloodstained allies, and in some cases, 91 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:58.660 we go into the professional world of counseling, 92 00:05:58.660 --> 00:06:00.300 where that's appropriate. 93 00:06:00.300 --> 00:06:03.740 It's kind of your journey in how you started to, 94 00:06:03.740 --> 00:06:05.340 there's that sweet invitation by God, 95 00:06:05.340 --> 00:06:08.020 he's inviting you in to face some of those unmentionables. 96 00:06:08.020 --> 00:06:09.020 What does that look like? 97 00:06:09.020 --> 00:06:14.020 I think the pain of the hide-and-seek game 98 00:06:17.020 --> 00:06:19.300 is very painful after a while, 99 00:06:20.220 --> 00:06:23.220 and there has to become something within us 100 00:06:23.220 --> 00:06:27.620 that's willing to forge into the pain 101 00:06:27.620 --> 00:06:32.620 of facing it, dealing with it, and talking about it, 102 00:06:32.980 --> 00:06:35.140 and I think that for most of us, 103 00:06:35.140 --> 00:06:40.140 it is something that happens, it's out of our control, 104 00:06:40.620 --> 00:06:45.620 in our life, where we realize we're really stuck. 105 00:06:45.940 --> 00:06:48.460 We're just stuck, and we don't understand 106 00:06:48.460 --> 00:06:52.780 why it is that we pose, why it is that we hide-and-seek, 107 00:06:52.780 --> 00:06:54.660 why it is that we pretend. 108 00:06:54.660 --> 00:06:57.460 Until something begins to happen in our life, 109 00:06:58.300 --> 00:07:00.940 we invite the Holy Spirit to give us wisdom about that, 110 00:07:00.940 --> 00:07:03.340 but I don't think you can even take the next step 111 00:07:04.420 --> 00:07:06.900 without there being some blood-stained allies, 112 00:07:06.900 --> 00:07:10.220 some other men, in the case of men, 113 00:07:10.220 --> 00:07:12.460 other women, in the case of women, 114 00:07:12.460 --> 00:07:17.460 in one's life that you feel like they've got your back, 115 00:07:18.220 --> 00:07:19.860 that they care about you, and that they love you, 116 00:07:19.860 --> 00:07:22.820 and they're gonna accept you, whatever you share. 117 00:07:22.820 --> 00:07:25.300 I guess counseling, I guess going to a counselor 118 00:07:25.300 --> 00:07:27.440 can be like a blood-stained ally, 119 00:07:28.280 --> 00:07:31.000 but I think true freedom that's long-lasting 120 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:33.800 is when we have some blood-stained allies in our life 121 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:37.040 that we can regularly go to and talk about 122 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:40.200 that are just normal people like us 123 00:07:40.200 --> 00:07:42.400 who care about us and love us. 124 00:07:42.400 --> 00:07:45.800 And so, I don't know, man, it's sort of like 125 00:07:45.800 --> 00:07:50.200 you really decide you wanna grow. 126 00:07:50.200 --> 00:07:52.560 You're not gonna let other people, 127 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:55.040 you're not gonna let other circumstances 128 00:07:55.040 --> 00:07:58.680 control you anymore, and you're gonna break out 129 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:01.040 of the shame cave. 130 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:02.600 You're gonna come out of the cave, 131 00:08:02.600 --> 00:08:06.220 into the light, and start growing again. 132 00:08:06.220 --> 00:08:09.560 I think that is the pivot point in our journey, 133 00:08:10.800 --> 00:08:12.140 and I think we've talked about this, 134 00:08:12.140 --> 00:08:14.720 maybe even on the show, I know we've talked about it 135 00:08:14.720 --> 00:08:17.260 one-on-one and in other places where I think studies 136 00:08:17.260 --> 00:08:21.580 would say up to an age of like 25, we're formed, 137 00:08:21.580 --> 00:08:22.880 we're kind of concrete by then, 138 00:08:22.880 --> 00:08:25.520 and then post-25, the age of, it would take 139 00:08:25.520 --> 00:08:29.280 a traumatic event to break us out of those habits, 140 00:08:29.280 --> 00:08:32.320 to forge new ones, to face shame. 141 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:35.520 Now, I'm packing this thought, I love this, 142 00:08:35.520 --> 00:08:38.620 because in here you say shame is all about fear. 143 00:08:38.620 --> 00:08:42.020 When I think about the tool belt of Satan 144 00:08:42.020 --> 00:08:45.040 and his ultimate goal, which is outlined in John 10, 10, 145 00:08:45.040 --> 00:08:48.400 that his goal is to kill, steal, and destroy, 146 00:08:48.400 --> 00:08:49.480 and God redeems that at the end 147 00:08:49.480 --> 00:08:51.340 about what Jesus comes to give us, 148 00:08:51.340 --> 00:08:54.260 but his tool belt on that to accomplish that mission 149 00:08:54.260 --> 00:08:56.360 is fear and shame, and you write here 150 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:58.600 that shame and fear are Satan's greatest tools 151 00:08:58.600 --> 00:09:01.540 to destroy the hearts of men and women. 152 00:09:01.540 --> 00:09:02.900 We need our whole heart. 153 00:09:02.900 --> 00:09:04.460 We are created to be wholehearted, 154 00:09:04.460 --> 00:09:07.540 and shame is the exact opposite of being wholehearted. 155 00:09:08.620 --> 00:09:12.040 We teach this, obviously, this would be a core thread 156 00:09:12.040 --> 00:09:14.460 and theme for the men's ministry here, 157 00:09:14.460 --> 00:09:16.180 and I know the women are unpacking that too 158 00:09:16.180 --> 00:09:18.660 in their own ways and the things that they face 159 00:09:18.660 --> 00:09:22.300 as being women, but as a man, 160 00:09:22.300 --> 00:09:25.820 one of the things that we see, that we're both uncovered, 161 00:09:25.820 --> 00:09:29.620 is that shame locks all of us up, no doubt, 162 00:09:29.620 --> 00:09:31.420 but there's this leverage of fear, 163 00:09:31.420 --> 00:09:32.620 and when he puts those together, 164 00:09:32.620 --> 00:09:35.100 what a powerful combination to keep us in bondage, 165 00:09:35.100 --> 00:09:36.300 this invitation, this truth, 166 00:09:36.300 --> 00:09:38.140 where we're gonna throw it all on the table, right? 167 00:09:38.140 --> 00:09:40.980 We're going all in on the promises and the word of God 168 00:09:40.980 --> 00:09:43.260 to say, I wanna unlock from this. 169 00:09:43.260 --> 00:09:45.320 I'm gonna really step into the truth 170 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:47.380 of what God has said in his scriptures. 171 00:09:47.380 --> 00:09:48.620 I'm gonna put that to the test. 172 00:09:48.620 --> 00:09:49.540 That's right. 173 00:09:49.540 --> 00:09:51.620 That's how we mature. 174 00:09:51.620 --> 00:09:53.620 I think that's why when Jesus talks about, 175 00:09:53.620 --> 00:09:56.500 you shall know the truth, the truth shall set you free, 176 00:09:56.500 --> 00:10:01.500 it's not just hearing the truth, it's believing it. 177 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:05.520 leaving the truth and starting to live in truth. And this is one of those truth areas that's probably 178 00:10:05.520 --> 00:10:13.200 one of the most uncomfortable. Very few people want to go there. Thus, most believers are 179 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:20.480 half-hearted. Most of them are stuck where they're at. They're battling depression, anxieties, and 180 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:27.200 fears just like everybody else because they haven't allowed the Holy Spirit to move them 181 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:31.840 into relationships. They're a little scary, a little frightening. They've been hurt by 182 00:10:31.840 --> 00:10:36.560 relationships. They've been betrayed in relationships. But you try again and you begin 183 00:10:36.560 --> 00:10:43.360 to ask, God, who are people in my life that can help me navigate me facing these unmentionable 184 00:10:43.360 --> 00:10:50.000 areas? And, you know, when we talk about, in Scripture, confess your sins to one another and 185 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:55.680 you shall be healed, that's another way of facing the unmentionables. Scripture outlines kind of 186 00:10:55.680 --> 00:11:03.360 that ointment or that antibiotic, God's kingdom's medicine for the enemy's tool belt here. I think 187 00:11:03.920 --> 00:11:08.240 in your writings and even your vulnerability in writing this chapter, the things that you 188 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:12.560 were facing, God was showing and outlining and bringing to light in your own life, how impactful 189 00:11:12.560 --> 00:11:18.480 the writings of Brene Brown were, how revelationary that was, and even revolutionary for your heart. 190 00:11:18.480 --> 00:11:24.080 I want to read a passage here that she writes. It's so good. If we want to live in love with 191 00:11:24.080 --> 00:11:28.480 our whole hearts, and if we want to engage with the world from a place of worthiness, 192 00:11:29.200 --> 00:11:35.040 which we all do, I think, we have to talk about the things that get in the way, especially shame, 193 00:11:35.040 --> 00:11:41.200 fear, and vulnerability. Vulnerability is such a scary concept for a lot of us, 194 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:48.640 probably from a place of, as a kid, we have no filter and we just meet the world unguarded. 195 00:11:48.640 --> 00:11:52.480 And then along the way, right, we start to take those arrows. The enemy starts to place arrows 196 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:59.040 in our hearts. And in some of those arrows actually become mortal if we don't treat them. 197 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:03.360 And I think that's what she's talking here, because this is now, these arrows connect to 198 00:12:03.360 --> 00:12:09.840 our identity, this concept of worthiness, what we bring into relationship. It's such a huge thing 199 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:16.080 for humanity where the enemy has really found our Achilles heel, if you will, to keep us locked up. 200 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:21.360 So this concept of vulnerability is huge. And we don't get to vulnerability until we have the 201 00:12:21.920 --> 00:12:26.880 breakthrough courage to deal with our shame and fear. And in the book, you're writing about this 202 00:12:26.880 --> 00:12:31.600 challenge that God gave you on the side of the road. You're driving up and he gives you this 203 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:36.960 kind of this audible challenge. You can run and hide, or you can take this moment and you can 204 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:46.960 face it, brother. Yeah. Yeah. And that was on the onset of just really realizing there's issues in 205 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:53.600 my life. I can blame these other people, but there's really issues in my life. Then I hear 206 00:12:53.600 --> 00:13:01.600 Brene Brown in her famous speech that she gave in a TED talk on shame and vulnerability. So that's 207 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:10.320 what I was listening to. So I'm listening to that and I just start crying and weeping and uncontrollably 208 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:18.000 and I had to pull off the side of the road. And that's where I came face to face with my shame 209 00:13:18.720 --> 00:13:27.520 and my failures and my brokenness. And that's when I really cried out to God because it seemed like 210 00:13:27.520 --> 00:13:34.320 he was, and I don't want to say it was an audible voice, but it was just such a, in my inner man, 211 00:13:35.040 --> 00:13:42.720 this voice of challenge. So you can either be a coward basically, or you can be courageous. 212 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:50.160 And I took courage. I went the way of courage and nobody would have known, you know, at first, 213 00:13:50.160 --> 00:13:59.440 nothing changed that much, but I was changing within. It's pretty cool when nobody can say 214 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:10.080 anything to you, negative, maybe even cutting and you just can agree with it. Yeah, that's true. 215 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:20.160 I am arrogant. I am prideful. I have not been a good leader. I've let people down. Yep. That's 216 00:14:20.160 --> 00:14:25.440 true. So I'm, I'm working on it and I'm facing it. I'm going to get prayer for it. I'm going to grow 217 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:32.720 through it. Yeah. And that's a totally different view than blaming someone else. And, and then 218 00:14:32.720 --> 00:14:42.640 also kind of justifying, justifying my existence with, with that to going, well, I don't know what 219 00:14:42.640 --> 00:14:49.600 their motives are. I don't know what your motives are over here, but I'm recognizing that I have a 220 00:14:49.600 --> 00:14:57.840 lot to grow in. So I'm going to, I'm going to grow and nobody's going to stop me and the God spirit, 221 00:14:57.840 --> 00:14:59.920 I'm going to, I'm going to be a better person. 222 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:05.600 person. I'm going to be a more mature person than I've ever been. I'm going after it. That's wholehearted. 223 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:29.880 Love that. I think last, last session, we were talking about allies, the tenderness. We were sharing a season of tenderness and where, you know, crying every day. You had your season. I went through my season not long after that. And it's that invitation where God speaks to us. And I remember you kind of forging a path for me to watch and watch how you, you modeled that with just humility and 224 00:15:29.880 --> 00:15:59.800 grace, mercy. I mean, and then the extension, you extended that to me in a season that I needed it in my own life. But I was able to draw on kind of watching you walk that path and then trusting it for myself. And I was thinking about when I was reading that chapter where God invites you into that, there's this invitation to say, you know, you can put away your false masks, the things that have kept you, what you feel is this false sense of security, but they've also kept you locked up. Because in your core heart, you know that 225 00:15:59.800 --> 00:16:29.400 you're betraying yourself. You know, that you're not being authentic to yourself first and foremost, and then also to God, but God sees us. There's this desire for us to walk in his original idea and design for us. I have this moment where I think I call it kind of a freedom mountain. And I'm on the side of the road to on top of a mountain. And, and I'm just crying out. And I'm audibly screaming out freedom from myself, because I'm so desperate for God to come and give me that because I'm so 226 00:16:29.400 --> 00:16:59.360 sick of this, you know, decades of bondage and lies from the enemy that I partnered with. You know, there's the things that have happened to me that impacted and created a filter for a behavior pattern. But there were still things that I had to own that I did, you know, yeah, I was wounded, but now I'm reacting and I'm wounding myself, I'm wounding those that love me around me. And I'm like, this is no way to live. This is no way to live as a husband, as a father. And I wanted freedom from that. I'm just crying on the side of the road. And God starts to break my heart open to get 227 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:29.320 to that infection. Yeah. And that was scary. That was terrifying to figure that out to walk that out. Yes. And just, I remember thinking, living out the words of what Brene Brown says about shame, if they know this about you, nobody's going to want to be in relationship. That's right, man. And I risk that. And I took it to trusted brothers, you being one of them, and risk that and just the acceptance of going to walk with you. We love you. That was so empowering to continue to even take the very next step. 228 00:17:29.360 --> 00:17:59.320 When it felt like I was going to collapse. Yeah. Yeah, it's really scary. It's scary because you haven't done it before. You haven't done it before. And this is the thing is that the areas of our life where we've never given ourselves permission to go is no man's land. It's like there's this darkness out there. And we like to control stuff, right? 229 00:17:59.360 --> 00:18:26.320 Of course. So we feel, you feel out of control. I wonder if something couldn't be said about that part of growth in anything, but especially psychologically and spiritually, is found when you get out of control. When you move into an arena where you really, truly have to trust God because all your props are gone. 230 00:18:27.320 --> 00:18:45.320 So you always have props. You always build props, but there's no props. And you have to navigate on a different level, the spirit filled life. Yeah. Like what's wisdom here? I don't know. But you're not going to, you're not going to get wisdom if you don't go to a place where you need wisdom. 231 00:18:46.320 --> 00:19:05.320 I was thinking about the invitation that I felt from God to correlate it to what God was sharing with you at that moment. And it's this, this season or this, this invitation that I think that does come to all of us where there's, there's that moment where through trauma of facing, embracing, or facing our unmentionables that God gives us the invitation. 232 00:19:05.320 --> 00:19:27.320 For me, it was like, are you going to continue to be a marble where I apply pressure to your life to impacts authentic change and you're going to slip out? Or are you going to be a grape and let me squash and squeeze you and the juice from that. And it will be sweet. The juice from your life. If you let me break you and squeeze you will be sweetness that I can use for my kingdom and just being obedient in that moment. 233 00:19:27.320 --> 00:19:56.320 And I realized for me, and I know this is true of you too. It's like, okay, I can keep playing the hide and seek game, but this is a real moment that I'm either going to face or I'm going to continue to run. And I know what running looks like. And it's just more bondage and enslavement, entrapment. And there was that hunger for freedom. Like there's a better way. And on the other side of that, just being released. I can only think about like a prisoner who's been in jail forever and then comes out into the world with new eyes, a new lease on life. 234 00:19:56.320 --> 00:19:59.920 The air is sweeter. The sky is brighter. The sun is warmer. 235 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:03.300 They're just like, Oh my gosh, like I'm at the beach here, you know? 236 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:05.000 And that's how you build security. 237 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:10.520 You start building your new identity in Christ, who you are, that you belong, that 238 00:20:10.520 --> 00:20:16.120 you're worthy, that you're loved by God, that you're a daughter or you're a son of God. 239 00:20:16.640 --> 00:20:21.760 And there's a new kind of security that comes with that and a confidence that comes with 240 00:20:21.760 --> 00:20:23.120 that. And then you get around. 241 00:20:23.120 --> 00:20:29.120 People are insecure all the time and you really see they're still controlled by the 242 00:20:29.120 --> 00:20:31.880 past. They're still controlled by their trauma. 243 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:35.240 And I just want to encourage them. 244 00:20:35.560 --> 00:20:41.040 And for any of you out there that that's you, that you lack confidence, you find 245 00:20:41.040 --> 00:20:45.600 yourself fearful of certain circumstances, you're fearful of a lot of things in your 246 00:20:45.600 --> 00:20:47.840 life. God can set you free. 247 00:20:47.960 --> 00:20:53.800 God can begin to really work if you'll give him time, if you'll give him the 248 00:20:53.800 --> 00:20:57.760 opportunity, if you'll face some of those things that are holding you down. 249 00:20:57.760 --> 00:20:59.320 And ask God, what are those? 250 00:20:59.520 --> 00:21:04.640 What are the things in my heart that are holding me back from being wholehearted? 251 00:21:04.960 --> 00:21:08.320 Yeah, this concept of, you know, we have a whole heart. 252 00:21:08.560 --> 00:21:10.000 We were meant to live from it. 253 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:15.000 You know, Paul writes about the old man, the false man, and these things, these masks 254 00:21:15.000 --> 00:21:17.280 that we wear that give us this false confidence. 255 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:21.960 Once you've experienced, I would say maybe you would agree with this, that when you 256 00:21:21.960 --> 00:21:25.280 kind of walk out of the prison walls, it's easier to spot. 257 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:26.640 You can spot it on people. 258 00:21:26.640 --> 00:21:32.240 You're like, oh, there's a more courageous version of you in there and we can see 259 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:33.880 them. You can see them enslaved. 260 00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:37.600 You can, you can spot it on them because, you know, you're like, I was once there. 261 00:21:37.600 --> 00:21:41.320 I can see that on you because I was there and I know what that looks like. 262 00:21:42.280 --> 00:21:43.440 But there's this invitation, man. 263 00:21:43.440 --> 00:21:46.080 You don't have to have that, like you don't have to live that way. 264 00:21:46.200 --> 00:21:51.040 Right. And man, we're just, it's been a theme for the road since probably, you know, 265 00:21:51.080 --> 00:21:58.320 it's early days since its inception of this concept of let's, let's walk into our 266 00:21:58.320 --> 00:21:59.960 shame. Let's face the fear. 267 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:05.760 Let's risk vulnerability for the payout of freedom and a whole heart, but definitely 268 00:22:05.760 --> 00:22:10.440 just hearing God's voice as the good shepherd in a deeper way to guide, lead us in 269 00:22:10.440 --> 00:22:12.680 this empowering thing that we have. 270 00:22:12.720 --> 00:22:14.040 Yeah. Really breakthrough courage. 271 00:22:14.040 --> 00:22:19.160 Right. And so it's almost like you're born to be a king, you're born to be a queen. 272 00:22:20.080 --> 00:22:24.520 But you were born in poverty, but you still have the inheritance. 273 00:22:24.560 --> 00:22:26.000 Oh, that's good. That's yours. 274 00:22:26.440 --> 00:22:31.280 But until you're willing to break out of your poverty by identifying your poverty, 275 00:22:31.320 --> 00:22:36.840 talking about your poverty, talking about the trauma and the slavery that you've been 276 00:22:36.840 --> 00:22:42.200 through, you can't, you can't live out your freedom that you now have. 277 00:22:42.280 --> 00:22:43.600 It is what you have. 278 00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:52.280 And lots of us who are saved, who have a personal relationship with Christ, tend to 279 00:22:52.280 --> 00:22:56.200 limit what God can do in us based on our past experience. 280 00:22:56.240 --> 00:23:00.960 So even though we're saved now, we still carry the trauma. 281 00:23:01.000 --> 00:23:02.720 We still carry the defeats. 282 00:23:02.760 --> 00:23:04.240 We still carry the failures. 283 00:23:04.360 --> 00:23:12.960 That's right. So there's that next step in our journey as disciples that I am a worshiper 284 00:23:13.000 --> 00:23:16.120 and a warrior. I am a son of the king. 285 00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:18.080 I am a daughter of the king. 286 00:23:18.600 --> 00:23:20.640 And I'm going after that. 287 00:23:20.680 --> 00:23:25.880 I want to I want to experience all of the promised land that God has given to me. 288 00:23:26.560 --> 00:23:27.480 And that's huge. 289 00:23:27.480 --> 00:23:33.040 You know, I think about just even that initial first step of trusting the very nature of 290 00:23:33.040 --> 00:23:39.880 God. We read about his demeanor, his ultimate love, the inheritance, and then we filter 291 00:23:40.160 --> 00:23:41.800 our decision to move forward or not. 292 00:23:41.800 --> 00:23:46.600 Sometimes based on the brokenness of our own biological parents and where that can keep 293 00:23:46.600 --> 00:23:49.080 us hostage, like mom was hard. 294 00:23:49.240 --> 00:23:50.280 Dad was difficult. 295 00:23:50.680 --> 00:23:52.440 How can I trust the true nature of God? 296 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:53.400 Who is at the end of the day? 297 00:23:53.560 --> 00:23:54.520 He's such a gentleman. 298 00:23:54.560 --> 00:23:55.680 He's so kind. 299 00:23:56.160 --> 00:24:02.360 And we enter in, you know, for my journey, entering into this unknown kind of stepping 300 00:24:02.360 --> 00:24:05.560 into the abyss of how is he going to how's he going to take care of this? 301 00:24:05.560 --> 00:24:09.040 He's promised me good, that he'll see me through the end. 302 00:24:09.080 --> 00:24:09.960 I'm not alone. 303 00:24:10.200 --> 00:24:15.280 And dealing with me, I mean, my biggest fear of bringing my shame to the table, the 304 00:24:15.280 --> 00:24:20.080 narrative that I think the enemy used so much in my life was this fear of abandonment, the 305 00:24:20.080 --> 00:24:22.680 fear of being alone that kept me tethered. 306 00:24:22.680 --> 00:24:24.200 Like, nobody's going to want to be around you. 307 00:24:24.200 --> 00:24:25.240 You're not going to have any friends. 308 00:24:25.240 --> 00:24:28.800 You're not going to have any relationships, which is so Brene, but then God on the other 309 00:24:28.800 --> 00:24:33.040 side of it, he's so tender and gentle with the process on us. 310 00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:37.920 And it is this kind of true, almost closing your eyes and taking that next step and 311 00:24:37.960 --> 00:24:43.800 saying, I'm going to put away the, you know, family of origin filters and trust the 312 00:24:43.800 --> 00:24:48.480 goodness and sweetness and the gentleness of God who wants to father us so beautifully 313 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:50.960 in those in those moments of obedience. 314 00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:59.040 And what happens to you and even what happens to those around you who have the 315 00:24:59.040 --> 00:25:00.000 privilege of being. 316 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:04.800 Part of your journey is the opposite of what you think is going to happen. 317 00:25:04.800 --> 00:25:07.840 So you think people are going to think less of you. 318 00:25:07.840 --> 00:25:10.800 You think they're going to take advantage of you. 319 00:25:10.800 --> 00:25:11.120 Yeah. 320 00:25:11.120 --> 00:25:13.120 But actually, they respect you more. 321 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:15.280 That's been my experience. 322 00:25:15.280 --> 00:25:20.400 I mean, I, I know that there, maybe it's because I, it probably is because I've picked good, 323 00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:26.960 blessed and allies, but I've not been too disappointed with that. 324 00:25:26.960 --> 00:25:32.560 I found that most people who hear your story and they know that comes from a humble place 325 00:25:33.360 --> 00:25:38.400 of the transformation that's happening in your life because you're willing to talk about it. 326 00:25:39.120 --> 00:25:43.920 They envy that, they want that, they admire that, they respect that. 327 00:25:44.640 --> 00:25:51.920 And, and you get a, you get another level of spiritual authority in the lives of those 328 00:25:51.920 --> 00:25:58.240 around you when they come to realize that you're just not a poser anymore. 329 00:25:58.240 --> 00:25:59.680 You're not a pretender anymore. 330 00:26:00.320 --> 00:26:05.520 You're trying the best you know how to be the best man, best woman that you can be. 331 00:26:05.520 --> 00:26:05.680 Yeah. 332 00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:06.640 That can't be understated. 333 00:26:06.640 --> 00:26:08.800 I mean, that's such a huge part of that process. 334 00:26:08.800 --> 00:26:13.840 And that is the way people show up for you and good blood stained allies. 335 00:26:13.840 --> 00:26:15.760 I agree that that can't be understated either. 336 00:26:15.760 --> 00:26:19.200 Just the quality of bloodstained ally that can hold that space for you, 337 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:21.440 walk with you through it. 338 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:25.120 Again, hearing God's voice, encouraging you in those processes. 339 00:26:25.120 --> 00:26:27.840 So I think that's a huge part of this journey. 340 00:26:28.560 --> 00:26:32.000 So what's cool about the journey is that you start building up 341 00:26:32.720 --> 00:26:36.480 this reservoir of good friends and you've got equity with people 342 00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:40.400 because God's used them in your life. 343 00:26:40.400 --> 00:26:41.520 They feel bonded to you. 344 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:46.880 I mean, look at our table, you know, Tuesday morning, those guys, 345 00:26:47.520 --> 00:26:54.000 all of those guys at the table with us have had something happen. 346 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:54.480 Yeah. 347 00:26:54.480 --> 00:26:56.560 That we've walked through with them. 348 00:26:56.560 --> 00:26:58.480 We now have some history together. 349 00:26:58.480 --> 00:26:58.800 Yeah. 350 00:26:58.800 --> 00:27:02.960 There's dozens of others out there that are not with us now because they've moved on. 351 00:27:03.600 --> 00:27:09.200 But if we came together at, you know, a meal or something. 352 00:27:09.200 --> 00:27:09.840 Yep. 353 00:27:09.840 --> 00:27:14.320 10 years later, we'd still have all these memories of growing together. 354 00:27:14.320 --> 00:27:14.720 Yes. 355 00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:23.280 So that bond is never more tight than when we go heart to heart with other people. 356 00:27:23.280 --> 00:27:23.920 Absolutely. 357 00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:25.200 Absolutely. 358 00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:31.520 On page 75, you write, you tee up Psalm 31 so great. 359 00:27:31.520 --> 00:27:36.160 And I mean, you have now this confessional resume of David. 360 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:39.520 He's showing us pure, authentic humanity, 361 00:27:39.520 --> 00:27:43.040 probably not recognizing his words are going to be immortalized in the canon, 362 00:27:43.120 --> 00:27:48.160 but still, you know, it gives us this aspect of the human heart, 363 00:27:48.160 --> 00:27:53.040 the things that we've carried for since creation and that there's no new tricks. 364 00:27:53.040 --> 00:27:56.320 There's just repeated tricks on us and tools from the enemy. 365 00:27:56.320 --> 00:28:00.000 And then there's David modeling this breakthrough courage, this whole heartedness. 366 00:28:00.000 --> 00:28:01.920 And right before we read the Psalm, you write this. 367 00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:03.760 And I thought this was just fantastic. 368 00:28:04.480 --> 00:28:08.080 All of us carry guilt and shame, and it can either finish us or form us. 369 00:28:08.800 --> 00:28:11.840 People who are courageous enough to be vulnerable with God 370 00:28:11.840 --> 00:28:18.400 and other people about their shame are those who experience breakthroughs into freedom. 371 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:23.200 And at the end of the day, through our own demise and sin, we're cast out of Eden. 372 00:28:23.840 --> 00:28:32.560 We're now interacting with Satan and his plans for God's creation to enslave, capture, destroy. 373 00:28:33.360 --> 00:28:36.400 And then there's this beautiful thread of God's redemption 374 00:28:36.400 --> 00:28:41.040 being woven through the scriptures about the ultimate salvation that's coming through Christ 375 00:28:41.040 --> 00:28:46.960 and the cross and how Jesus models facing shame, naked, beaten. 376 00:28:47.520 --> 00:28:49.680 And even how you're writing that, you know, 377 00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:53.520 Jesus couldn't have the resurrection without facing his shame. 378 00:28:54.320 --> 00:28:56.480 And for those of us that have faced the shame, 379 00:28:56.480 --> 00:29:00.720 the resurrection on the other side of that saying, you know what? 380 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:02.880 There was a season maybe I needed the masks. 381 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:04.400 I needed the false selves. 382 00:29:04.400 --> 00:29:08.160 And I'm not going to beat myself up, but I don't need them anymore. 383 00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:08.880 So thank you. 384 00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:10.800 I'm going to be kind to myself, but I'm okay now. 385 00:29:10.800 --> 00:29:12.000 And I'm going to put those aside. 386 00:29:12.000 --> 00:29:15.440 And I'm experiencing the resurrection into freedom. 387 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:15.840 Yeah. 388 00:29:15.840 --> 00:29:16.720 So beautiful. 389 00:29:16.720 --> 00:29:16.960 Yeah. 390 00:29:16.960 --> 00:29:19.280 And then David's modeling that throughout the psalm, right? 391 00:29:19.280 --> 00:29:19.920 Yeah, yeah. 392 00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:24.320 And the defenses are gone. 393 00:29:25.200 --> 00:29:27.440 The offenses are gone. 394 00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:28.560 You're forgiven. 395 00:29:28.560 --> 00:29:30.240 You can walk in forgiveness. 396 00:29:30.240 --> 00:29:30.960 I don't know, man. 397 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:32.160 There's just so much freedom. 398 00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:34.560 That comes with all of this. 399 00:29:34.560 --> 00:29:35.760 At first, it's not that way. 400 00:29:35.760 --> 00:29:37.760 At first, it's super hard. 401 00:29:37.760 --> 00:29:42.800 Facing the unmentionable is really difficult, really risk-taking, really dark. 402 00:29:43.760 --> 00:29:47.360 But as you keep confessing, you keep letting the light shine. 403 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:51.680 Second Corinthians 4, 6, you keep letting the light shine in there. 404 00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:52.160 That's right. 405 00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:55.840 It really does begin to be an antiseptic of healing 406 00:29:55.840 --> 00:29:59.520 to that wound of your heart that does begin to heal. 407 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:02.640 What I've realized is that the more times 408 00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:06.300 that I've been able to be vulnerable, authentic, and share, 409 00:30:06.300 --> 00:30:08.120 even when I start to sense that the enemy, 410 00:30:08.120 --> 00:30:09.980 because he's relentless for all of us, 411 00:30:09.980 --> 00:30:12.160 he's lost a captive, he's lost a prisoner, right? 412 00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:14.580 So he wants to get us back in the shackles. 413 00:30:14.580 --> 00:30:17.700 So the more often that I've been able to share my story 414 00:30:17.700 --> 00:30:20.240 with brothers, trusted allies, 415 00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:24.100 bringing light consistently onto those places, 416 00:30:24.100 --> 00:30:26.440 it continues to be the best astringent, right? 417 00:30:26.440 --> 00:30:28.100 The best medication, God's light, 418 00:30:28.100 --> 00:30:29.980 healing light of his kingdom to our hearts. 419 00:30:29.980 --> 00:30:30.820 For sure. 420 00:30:30.820 --> 00:30:31.660 But it is risky. 421 00:30:31.660 --> 00:30:32.480 Yeah. 422 00:30:32.480 --> 00:30:33.420 But it's worth the risk. 423 00:30:33.420 --> 00:30:34.260 It is. 424 00:30:34.260 --> 00:30:35.080 It's worth the risk. 425 00:30:35.080 --> 00:30:35.920 It can't be stressed enough. 426 00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:36.760 Yeah. 427 00:30:36.760 --> 00:30:38.780 My encouragement to you tuning in today 428 00:30:38.780 --> 00:30:41.220 that if you find yourselves in this place, 429 00:30:42.980 --> 00:30:46.460 follow James 5.16, bring it to a trusted brother, 430 00:30:46.460 --> 00:30:49.520 a sister, an ally, pray for your healing, 431 00:30:49.520 --> 00:30:51.700 start to develop this and walk it out, 432 00:30:51.700 --> 00:30:54.900 and you'll be amazed with the healing power light of God 433 00:30:54.940 --> 00:30:58.180 that's going to start bringing that healing 434 00:30:58.180 --> 00:30:59.940 and just a new heart, that new creation, 435 00:30:59.940 --> 00:31:01.140 and the freedom that comes from that. 436 00:31:01.140 --> 00:31:02.340 And you never want to trade that. 437 00:31:02.340 --> 00:31:03.380 You know, you never sit down. 438 00:31:03.380 --> 00:31:05.240 You don't, once you've tasted true freedom, 439 00:31:05.240 --> 00:31:07.140 you don't want to sit down at the table of negotiation 440 00:31:07.140 --> 00:31:08.820 for bondage again. 441 00:31:08.820 --> 00:31:09.660 So. 442 00:31:09.660 --> 00:31:11.060 Yeah, you don't want to go back. 443 00:31:11.060 --> 00:31:13.060 You don't want to go back to that. 444 00:31:13.060 --> 00:31:15.900 And it's an ongoing, it's an ongoing decision. 445 00:31:15.900 --> 00:31:18.860 It's an ongoing process of a road less traveled. 446 00:31:18.860 --> 00:31:22.340 So I agree with Ryan, just go for it 447 00:31:22.340 --> 00:31:27.120 and let God, let God speak to you about things in your life 448 00:31:27.120 --> 00:31:30.220 that you're realizing are areas 449 00:31:30.220 --> 00:31:32.860 you're now finally ready to face, 450 00:31:32.860 --> 00:31:35.480 and then begin to find some trusted allies. 451 00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:37.220 Could be a professional counselor too, 452 00:31:37.220 --> 00:31:40.620 but begin to talk it out, begin to speak it out 453 00:31:40.620 --> 00:31:44.460 without blame, but own it for yourself. 454 00:31:44.460 --> 00:31:47.980 And then, and then invite the Holy Spirit into that. 455 00:31:47.980 --> 00:31:50.740 And God's gonna bring freedom. 456 00:31:50.780 --> 00:31:52.100 Absolutely. 457 00:31:52.100 --> 00:31:55.900 We're in the middle of Breakthrough Courage right now. 458 00:31:55.900 --> 00:31:59.900 And I will just say that this particular theme is, 459 00:31:59.900 --> 00:32:02.720 it's not written necessarily as like a pillar of, 460 00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:04.860 you know, tenants of our faith on the website, 461 00:32:04.860 --> 00:32:07.060 but it's been in, it's been a theme 462 00:32:07.060 --> 00:32:09.060 that's run through the road. 463 00:32:09.060 --> 00:32:10.660 And I know it's been on our hearts. 464 00:32:10.660 --> 00:32:11.960 We've walked it out together. 465 00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:15.060 We've seen other people witness them walk out, get freedom. 466 00:32:15.060 --> 00:32:17.620 And I would say that facing your shame, 467 00:32:17.620 --> 00:32:19.940 conquering your fear and being vulnerable 468 00:32:19.940 --> 00:32:21.580 is definitely a mission statement 469 00:32:21.580 --> 00:32:23.860 that's not written on the road's website, 470 00:32:23.860 --> 00:32:24.900 but it's in all of our hearts. 471 00:32:24.900 --> 00:32:27.120 And it's the DNA of the church, the DNA of you. 472 00:32:27.120 --> 00:32:28.620 It's the DNA of the kingdom of God 473 00:32:28.620 --> 00:32:29.940 that you're carrying and modeling. 474 00:32:29.940 --> 00:32:33.540 So we invite you into that deeper expression. 475 00:32:33.540 --> 00:32:36.120 And I think it'd be great. 476 00:32:36.120 --> 00:32:39.100 Brother, would you wanna close us in the audience today 477 00:32:39.100 --> 00:32:41.260 with a prayer and an invitation to that? 478 00:32:41.260 --> 00:32:42.100 Absolutely. 479 00:32:42.100 --> 00:32:42.920 That'd be awesome. 480 00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:44.460 Yeah, so let's pray you guys. 481 00:32:44.460 --> 00:32:48.800 So Father, we just thank you for this time together. 482 00:32:48.800 --> 00:32:53.800 We thank you, Lord, for the truth of the fact 483 00:32:55.400 --> 00:32:57.800 that we can now renounce our shame. 484 00:32:57.800 --> 00:32:58.640 Yes, God. 485 00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:01.200 And we can walk in newness of life 486 00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:02.520 through the power of your spirit, 487 00:33:02.520 --> 00:33:03.840 through blood-stained allies, 488 00:33:03.840 --> 00:33:08.840 where we're able to deliver our pain. 489 00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:12.600 We can deliver our trauma to blood-stained allies, 490 00:33:12.600 --> 00:33:14.560 to every man's conscience. 491 00:33:14.560 --> 00:33:17.880 And that, Lord, your light starts to shine through that, 492 00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:20.160 starts to shine through the clouds, 493 00:33:20.160 --> 00:33:24.440 shine through the tears, shine through the hurt 494 00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:26.840 and the defensiveness that we have. 495 00:33:26.840 --> 00:33:30.640 And you begin to gradually set us free, 496 00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:33.440 gradually cutting those ropes 497 00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:36.160 that are wrapped around our hearts. 498 00:33:36.160 --> 00:33:38.360 So Lord, I pray a blessing on everyone out here 499 00:33:38.360 --> 00:33:43.360 who's listening to this, that you would give them courage. 500 00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:46.600 You would give them breakthrough courage 501 00:33:46.600 --> 00:33:51.600 to step out, allow you to bring blood-stained allies 502 00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.880 into their life, begin to talk about these things, 503 00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:59.120 begin to get things off their chest and off their heart 504 00:33:59.120 --> 00:34:00.760 with a new level of vulnerability. 505 00:34:00.760 --> 00:34:05.280 So empower them, Lord, to be open, authentic and vulnerable. 506 00:34:05.280 --> 00:34:06.960 And I thank you, Lord, that as a result, 507 00:34:06.960 --> 00:34:10.600 their lives are gonna be transformed and changed 508 00:34:10.600 --> 00:34:15.600 in some unpredictable as well as surprising ways. 509 00:34:17.040 --> 00:34:19.920 So we just bless those out there listening to this 510 00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:22.719 in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. 511 00:34:22.719 --> 00:34:24.360 Thank you, Father. 512 00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:25.320 Amen. Amen. 513 00:34:25.320 --> 00:34:27.000 Amen, thank you. 514 00:34:27.000 --> 00:34:28.360 Thanks for joining us today. 515 00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:30.120 We'll see you next time for habit number five. 516 00:34:30.120 --> 00:34:31.239 God bless you. 517 00:34:31.239 --> 00:34:32.239 God bless you guys. 518 00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:33.080 God bless you guys. 519 00:34:33.080 --> 00:34:33.920 God bless you guys. 520 00:34:33.920 --> 00:34:34.760 God bless you guys. 521 00:34:34.760 --> 00:34:35.600 God bless you guys. 522 00:34:35.600 --> 00:34:36.440 God bless you guys.