I wasn't quite sure how to do that.
Yeah, that was good.
And so in looking at that, I was looking at collections.
And so I've set up a collection, but there's no content in it.
So I don't know how to get my content into collections.
That was true.
And then lastly, currently, I'm hosting the full audio book
on Hero FM, OK?
But I have free content that is actually here.
And I'd like to be able to learn how to put the rest of it
behind a paywall on Try.
Let's do it.
OK, so those are the things we can get to.
Cindy, if you need some help right now, just.
Yeah, that shouldn't take more than like 5 to 10 minutes.
And then, yeah, Cindy, if you want to go for anyone else has
specific questions, maybe just put your hand up
because it queues it up for me.
And you don't have to stay the whole time
or listen to us the whole time.
There's a really cool feature.
If you go down to your audio, you can hit the little up arrow
and you can actually leave computer audio.
And that means you won't be able to hear us.
And you can still see us and feel us all
like keeping you accountable to get something knocked out
in the session.
But if you want, while we're helping,
we're here just to work as well.
Feel free to use the chat to be like, OK, here's
what I'm planning to do today.
I want to get these three things done.
Try to be specific like, I need to get these two things posted
or give a number, like something that we can measure.
But make my website better is not a good goal
for these two hours.
I'm just looking for a pen.
Hang on a second.
One second.
Let's see.
OK.
I just wanted to make sure I got each of those things.
So let's see.
So we're going to share the link.
And then that, so one thing you can do
is I would share the magic link if you want.
And if you want to share your screen,
I can step you through it.
So anytime you want to give group access to a person
that you're like, they don't need to pay or do anything,
just get me right into that group, that magic link
is sort of the, that's why we call it the magic link
because it's just magical.
And you just click it, and you're in the group.
You kind of bypass everything.
All right, let me, I'll share my screen.
You can tell me where to go.
And this will be from the dashboard.tribesocial.
OK.
Oh, OK.
All right.
Just so you guys know, I'm aware the app.tribe.io
and dashboard.tribesocial.io and all that.
So we just bought tribe.social, and so we'll
be setting that up in the next while.
So it's going to be a lot cleaner,
especially because you guys are sending your communities to it.
It's going to be like tribe.social slash Xavier,
right?
Like you'll get, right?
It'd be like pretty simple to share.
OK, sweet.
So you said the dashboard, the general one from this one?
Yeah, so if you go from the dashboard side,
actually the one you're on before.
Oh, OK.
Well, we'll use both.
But if you go to your groups tab,
and then which one did you want to share?
This one.
So just over on the actions on the right,
you can hit the dropdown.
And that's where you say copy sign up link.
And then this is what you can go now over to the Pioneer
community and say, hey, I'd love to have anyone who wants
to join.
And you just share that.
You can do that.
Oh, just share it in here.
OK.
And then you can paste that link.
And when anyone in this group clicks on it,
we'll be taken to that.
We put our name, email.
All of you guys already have accounts.
So you'll just, actually some of you, if you're already signed
in, it'll just say redirecting.
And then all of a sudden, you'll be in your group.
It's kind of, yeah, it's pretty seamless.
Oh, that's too simple.
It's good.
Sometimes the link isn't super obvious
that it's like down in that corner.
Right.
OK.
All right, then I'll type out a little message shortly
and just post that link for everybody
to kind of have access to that.
Nice.
And the other thing, you said you
were trying to look at how to get a content,
like grouping content.
Yeah, so I went to collections.
So this was just for the whole audio book.
And so when I looked here, OK, it just said content order.
This collection has no content yet.
So I wasn't quite sure how to get from content
into a collection or what's the purpose of a collection.
It's just a group of content.
So if you had like module one and then four
pieces of content in there, you don't have to have it.
If you could.
This is for your, each of these is like a chapter.
Is that how you've got it?
Yeah, so, right, right, exactly.
So if I look at the content here, you can see.
So yeah, each one is like a chapter.
Nice.
Okay, that's perfect.
So where do you want it to show up in the app
or are you trying to figure out where to put it?
Yeah, I'm actually trying to figure out where to put it.
I was looking at, if I switch to My Guru,
this is what it looks like right now.
So we can fix this.
Yeah, so let's go back to the dashboard.
First thing we'll wanna do, if you go to the groups,
it's just, let's click on your group there.
And when you go to pages on the top tab there,
this is where we can turn all the things else.
If you want, you can turn on the community, for example,
if you want people to post.
And then these are the questions,
but it looks like you already had prayer requests in there.
So you could set the book up as a course,
if you wanted to, that's one way.
It's probably the easiest way.
All right.
And then replays, if you're planning to do calls
and things like that, you can use the replay.
So there's lots of different tabs here you can use
if you want members to connect with other members.
Right.
You can turn those things on.
Okay.
But the idea is just, the announcement tab there
is just basically the same thing as the community.
It just only shows from your, like Xavier's posts,
essentially.
Right.
So if I just post something that way,
that will just go there.
Yeah.
That's good.
Okay.
So courses is probably the easiest way just to do the book
and just do it in sequence.
Okay.
Is that will be,
so the paywall will basically be the courses.
Okay.
When I lay everything out,
so all of the rest of the chapters
and everything else that's there.
Yeah.
Okay.
You can, if you just hit save on that, the bottom,
then we can go now to the courses
and we'll just go ahead and we'll make one pretty quick.
Okay.
You can hit, yeah, course, this could be your book title
or whatever you're calling it.
I think like a pre-release.
Yeah.
So I'll just call this.
And then I'll add the features and everything later,
but let me just,
oh, it's looking for everything to upload.
Oh, so you don't, yeah.
If you want the image, you can,
if you leave it blank, it's going to use your group image.
You don't have to have.
Okay.
All right.
Now the only thing is just under the group,
just make sure you assign this course
to the group you want it to show up in.
I see.
Okay.
So I'll create a group.
All right.
That's explicitly for the course.
And I know.
So you're just, you're just going to link it to your.
Oh, just link it to here.
Okay.
All right.
So we will check.
That's good.
And so the other thing you can do is let's say
you have another community.
You could have one course and you can kind of assign it
to like five different communities.
So that's the same course shared into other things.
Yeah.
All right.
Cause there's going to be a free readers community.
And then there's going to be the, you know,
the course, which is people who've paid for, you know.
Right.
Okay.
All right.
So I'll need to set that up.
Got it.
Okay.
That's easy to.
Cool.
So if you click out of this, yeah.
And then just hit save.
That should create your course.
And then we'll just do the first one
and then you'll kind of see how it is.
And you can go add the rest.
You click into this now.
You, it'll take you to a, like,
this is kind of where you build it.
So you can, this is the easiest way to do it.
You can kind of ignore all of this
and kind of do everything from in here now.
So you can add collection.
You could call this,
do you have multiple pieces of content for each chapter?
Or is it just.
Not, not at the,
a couple of them will have some additional notes and stuff,
but not right now.
Right now.
So you could,
I could have one just called like the book.
You can think of something better to say than that.
But basically group all the mod,
like one module, which is the books.
And then if you wanted to have like anything bonus,
like schedule a call or here's another free,
or here's the links to Amazon to buy it or,
you know, whatever.
Right.
And you can come back and rename this.
When you do it from in here,
it does create a collection here.
And when you create lessons, it does add content here.
So it's going to your collection library.
But now if you go here,
this is where it gets pretty quick.
If you hit add content,
it first asks if you want to search
for some existing content.
So if you just maybe search for chapter one,
I'm sure you have it named.
If you didn't kind of hold it there for a second,
then you just click on that
and then hit add existing.
content there. Okay. And I'm gonna get on my drawings and that's it. So you've added it right.
Just you would rinse and repeat, add all those, maybe let's do like another one or two and then
we'll see what it looks like on the group. You can kind of see how it's being... Am I able to...
Okay. All right. I'm actually curious if you... Can I reorder these? Yeah, just drag that little...
Here you can edit it. Just jump quickly to edit if you click on it. But if you drag the little
two bars that are over here. Yeah, there you go. Just drag it where you want. There it is. Okay.
Perfect. Yeah. So if you're building out a course, it's easy. If you don't... If you're searching,
if you start to type the title and it's not there, you can just say create new content and you can
create the content right from here. Just for curiosity sake, can you choose like three,
like two, three, four, five, all at the same time? I should know. No, it doesn't. But that would be
cool. I'll think of... Well, that'd be a future thing. Yeah. Okay. Right now it's like we just
need all six of those in there. So it'd be cool if you could multi-add. That's probably not hard
for us to add. Okay. So if you add this... And now let's go back to your group just to kind of
see how it's looking. Sorry. You can see kind of how the users will see it over here on that tab.
And refresh this page.
You may not even need to... Oh, okay. So just... Okay. Let's go to courses then.
It should see your course here. So of course... There we go. Okay. Yeah. And you can click into
this and just see how it's looking. Obviously, if you had an image and stuff, we can add that.
But then now you can see it's got this drop down.
And you should be able to click into a...
All right. Let's see. All right. But it is not showing... Oh, the audio player. Yeah.
That's... Yes. That's a good... We'll fix it.
Yeah. Okay. All right. All right. All right. All right.
That's... Yes. That's a good... We'll fix that today.
I don't know if I've seen anyone add an audio yet to a lesson,
but that 100% needs to work the way. Okay. So yeah, that's what we'll need.
Okay. I'll post in the group when that's done. I'll make it... I'm doing a few fixes and stuff
myself today. So I'll throw that in there. It's a quick fix for us.
Got it. Okay. No, this tells me how to construct it. That's what I needed to know.
Yeah. Perfect.
That's great.
Awesome. Did you have another question? I thought there was three.
I think, but that is... So putting it behind the paywall. So once I've set this course up,
I just set this course up as a paid course. Okay. And it will go through and give everything
else. So I think that that's how I get it done. Yeah. It's just at the group level. So your
group is essentially what would be free or your group is going to be paid.
So you could either create another group that's paid if you want.
Right.
Marcella's used Gumroad if you want a quick way to take a payment. And then all she did was she
shared that signup link. So you would go to your paid group and you'd grab the signup link and
then just show them the signup link after they've paid. And that will get them all the way through
to the app. We were fixing a lot of other bugs in March. And so we were hoping that the payment
form would be available. It should be early April now, but I'll let you guys know, of course,
when that's there, but what that will do is it'll let you basically take a credit card.
You connect Tribe to your bank account and your money will just show up. So you have to do any
of the Gumroad stuff. Okay. So what does Gumroad use for processing? Do they use
Stripe? They use their own thing and it's not the cheapest. So it's free in quotes,
but they take 10%. Ours will take no extra percents, just the Stripe fee that Stripe
charges us, which is like two or 3%. But yeah, if you look, I mean, you can go set up your own
account. I've already got a Stripe account set up. And so that's what HeroFM is using.
And if anybody's true, the reason I went with Hero FM is because they're not
taking a big chunk, you know, and I have more pricing freedom than I had with
Amazon and Audible, which I will do down the line at some point.
But for now,
well, I'm building it up.
Yeah, sweet.
OK, yes, trips, trips.
Good.
Awesome. OK, yeah.
If you have any questions on that, when you feel free to
do that, I'll also show you guys
just in case you guys have questions for us.
If you haven't used
let me jump here.
If you guys haven't used Loom before, like super it's free.
You could you can create little videos.
So that's a great thing to
you can record your screen and your microphone.
So you could essentially like the way that you're showing me on Zoom,
you can just go through and like record a video.
I actually don't normally do it from the browser, but.
OK, well, I'm not in this version, but yeah, basically you hit record,
it records your screen and then it'll give you a link and you can drop that link
into the community and then that lets me I can answer any question you want.
In the meantime, if you're not having to wait for a call,
you're on a Mac, though, the.
Clean shot.
This is the one to get.
I use this app
like five to 10 times a day.
So if you if you're interested in a good
screen capture tool and you're on a Mac, I don't think I think.
Yeah, so cool.
That's good. OK, that's good.
I'll make sure we get that audio piece in.
I may know that. So maybe.
OK, awesome.
Cindy, did you that that propels me along?
Awesome.
Cindy, did you have yet a question or something you want?
I do, I do want help with something on my tribe account, but I was reading the chat
and I know Sally has a time constraint, OK, so I don't know if we should let her.
Yeah, I haven't been paying too much attention to the chat.
OK, yes, you had a question.
You said you just had something like something went wrong.
Perfect.
Thanks, Cindy.
Bless you.
Let me just say basically, and I'm like 4 a.m.
for Sally, so let's let's
it's actually not too bad.
It's 5 a.m. at the moment, but it will go to 4 a.m.
and I have a clash with our I've got to try and move my own group
to be able to come to our calls going forward when our times change next week.
But I've stuck that I've stuck the course.
So I think I put the course in the wrong place.
I think because I haven't put it in courses, I put it in content.
Does that matter?
No. So they're actually the same thing.
So that's actually exactly how Xavier did it.
He has all his stuff in content.
And now when you're ready, you can you can attach existing content to a course.
And so it's the same piece of content.
It's just kind of accessible from different places.
Couple things, there's some quirky things that we're working out, but I just like
if you have like you've let me grab my pen here,
you've attached this come on, draw right here.
You've attached that specifically to the great exchange course.
Yeah, to the group.
So if you click on this, I'll show you what that we actually did
make a note here, but it's very obscure if you click on that one piece of content.
Or any of those, they're all the same.
Yeah.
OK, if I think if you open up the pop up,
well, hold on, what if you just click on any of the content, like any of the title
or something, there you go, that's it, you can cancel.
Sweet. OK, so if you go to access here.
Sorry, it's details.
We just move this around.
Yes.
Where is this?
Maybe it's under.
Content should be under access, actually, let me just.
They're basically, you know, if you attach it to a specifically to a group.
Let me just check it real quick access.
Oh, yes. Sorry, it's in access.
I just was not reading it correctly.
And where it says groups, you can uncheck this.
So it says it right there, but like when you assign it, this is how you get
something into the replay tab, so if you specifically it's a little bit goofy.
You just have to create the piece of content and then you assign that piece
of content to a course and then.
A course can get assigned to a group.
So it's kind of, um, that way you don't have to assign every single lesson or
every single piece of content in the future.
Um, this is not the easiest way to do this and we're in the process of
redesigning how you put content in.
But yeah, bear with us on the, that it's a little, to me, it's a little bit inside
out, you have to create the content and then go to the place and pull it in.
But, um, the other thing it does is when you create a lesson in a course, it also
puts that in your content library.
So you can do other things with it as well.
So it's a little bit more portable.
Um, so if you want it in the replay tab, add it to a group.
If not, you can leave that blank as well.
That's all right.
I'd leave it in replays as most of them are internationals.
So that's cool.
That's fine.
So when I came to put some description in, is there a limit on the description?
Cause that might be my problem.
I've just realized here.
Xavier put his entire chapter of his book in there.
Um, I don't think I'd seen anyone use it quite that way, but that's, yeah, it's
one way to do it.
I've got my little description out of your beautiful AI.
Cause I thought that was easy.
And then I put it in and you're going to save it and it's going to save it.
I'll put you guys in the way.
Save.
Yeah.
What have I done wrong?
No, nothing in particular.
Um, it's, um, pasting content into this text editor.
Uh, there's all kinds of formatting going on in there.
Um, the fastest way since you're on a Mac.
Um, if you, okay, just trust me on, on the process.
If you hit command space on your Mac, it's going to pop up a little, um,
spotlight.
So one, everybody who's on a Mac should live on spotlight.
You can just start typing an app.
You can start typing something and it just opens it.
So if you just click on that and hit paste, it's going to paste like all of
your, uh, or I'm not sure why it's not pasting in that way.
You hit the X.
I think you maybe have opened Chrome.
Uh, you can just hit the, or hit command space again.
There you go.
I'll try it.
Yeah.
If you try it again, command space, I think like without clicking anything else,
just now hit paste.
Yeah.
Now hit command a to select everything, uh, and then hit command C and now, and
then paste that into your thing.
What that does is it just erases.
It's that's just a quick way to do it.
There's a hundred other ways to do this.
You can select all here and just delete it.
Um, but what happens is like from AI or if I select all here, this is just
going to, then you can just backspace it.
Yeah.
If I could get it, there you go.
So hit command day and then just backspace.
Nah, it's not letting me go on here at all.
Oh, here we go.
Nah.
You can also just hit cancel and open it up again if you want.
Um, I think you've said once here, that's episode six.
Doesn't matter.
I'll just read it.
Why is my Mac being so slow?
It's because you're on the other side of the world.
So it's like thinking about it.
I don't know, but yeah, if you paste that and hit save, you should be good.
Um, okay.
I'll play with that because it's not playing at the moment,
but I'll, I'll play with it.
Okay.
It also, I found when you share your screen on zoom, your computer
does the strangest things.
It's like all the memory and everything is being maxed out.
So sure.
If you like stop sharing and try it again, it might work great, but
brilliant.
So what did I have to do to get that spotlight command?
Yeah.
That's just one thing.
There's other tools you could paste it into.
I just, that one's the fastest.
Um, what we need is like, I'm making a note of it.
We just need a way to like paste for like paste from something that is
formatted, because if you go to a Google doc or a word doc, they all
have, you don't see it, but there's all kinds of goofy, uh, formatting.
Like they're trying to make things bold or bullets or whatever.
And so when you paste it, it just jams up the whole, um, thing.
But I'm going to, I've made a note of this, the team.
Oh, look, I'm quite happy to use spotlight.
If it works, it's only one more.
Great.
We want to fix it.
Yeah, no, that's easy.
Um, okay.
I will work on that and then I'll probably have to do a video during
the week to say, okay, how do I get that into a group because I can see all courses.
Yes.
If you watch what we did with, uh, Xavier, um, I'll put this replay in there, but we
just stepped it through like how to build a course, basically create the course.
And then you just search for your content.
And so you just type episode one, and then it will just link that existing
episode one into that course for you.
Um, so you don't have to create it again or, or any of that, or it's just kind
of searching and finding it and adding it.
So thanks Cindy.
And thanks Jennifer for letting me jump the queue.
That's good.
Awesome.
Okay.
Let's get a Cindy and we'll just keep going through.
Okay.
So first of all, I want to say thank you for our gift and I know that that was
done, but thank you.
That was awesome.
That was such a cool surprise.
Awesome.
Okay.
We didn't say anything.
So if you can just say the books that you get, these are my favorite notebooks.
Um, they're super, uh, the picture is just really soft.
I have about 50 of them and that's what I write on my notes.
And then the pens just really nerdy thing is like their architectural pens.
So we're really into like blueprints and architecting and all that stuff.
So there are architectural pens.
So just a little, we didn't, we should have said something about it, but if
you got that, that's what that is.
So.
Well, I think it was Jap.
I saw somebody say that they thought they got a spam email and I thought, this is
really weird, but I'm just going to save it and see if it actually comes on the
25th.
And then all of a sudden I saw the guy with UPS and it was like, Oh, so it wasn't
spam.
So that was really cute.
So thank you.
So I am getting close to launching my YouTube channel and I feel like I have no
understanding or concept the way my brain works as to how this community works.
Like I can't find a way to add people to my group.
I don't know what they're going to see, how I send it to them.
I don't know if I have a domain name, what my, I have no idea.
It's like everything's disconnected in my brain and the course says coming soon for
how to add group members and users.
And so it's not even on my dashboard.
There's, there's nothing on my dashboard.
So I'm very puzzled how the whole thing connects and how do I connect it to the
people?
Yes, a hundred percent.
Okay.
So, so we'll get you in.
Everything's there to do it.
I made a couple notes there.
The course should not say coming soon.
There's, I'll make no, Macy and I can, we'll get you some, a lesson built out for
that, but I'll, I'll go ahead and do it now for you so you can go through and I
will figure it out.
Because I feel like I won't be able to announce, you know, if, yeah, so let me
ask you, how, um, how do you want to get people in?
Are you, is this a free group?
Is it paid?
I'm going to start with a free group and then I'm going to make a paid version.
Okay.
How are they going to get there?
Well, that's what I don't know.
Cause like I could put it in my YouTube videos.
I could put it in my description, but that's what I don't know what the people
get.
Are they going to iOS app store and getting it there?
Or is it a link?
I, I have no idea how this works for the customers side.
Perfect.
Okay.
We're we're fixed this.
I don't know if I'm supposed to get a domain name or if it's just a link with
tribe social in it.
I'm very puzzled.
Okay.
That's great.
And I see Holly has the same question.
So, um, what I'm going to do is I'm going to do this and I'm asked Macy to come and
like trim this.
This will be the official lesson that apparently is missing.
Okay.
Um, so, uh, a letter notes, 29 minutes.
Okay.
So if you want to get people into the group, um, what is your group name?
It's, uh, in Jesus, you belong.
Let's see.
I've got a demo group.
I, I guess, but inside, I, I guess I, okay.
I guess I never renamed it.
I just, that's supposed to be the name of the group is the image, but I guess I
didn't do it in the name.
Oh, I see.
Okay.
Perfect.
But we'll fix it for you right now.
Okay.
So the first thing, just kind of setting up the group, um, okay.
And just, you belong, uh, you're the admin, obviously I'm just checking here.
Um, the visibility is going to be private.
So this means that, um, they're going to use the magic link.
Um, if you make it public, it just goes to like a explore groups on tribe and
people can get to it that way and, and add themselves.
Um, that's not the most user friendly.
So I think this is good because while it's a free.
Group, it's still private.
You still are sort of controlling who's coming in and out.
It's not just a free for all, like, right.
Yeah, exactly.
So that's good.
Um, and then you have all your, your page.
Okay.
So we'll, we'll, we'll worry about the pages yet, but, um, so same thing as Xavier.
Um, like I would just grab this signup link.
Um, so you copy it, it's going to copy it to your clipboard.
And now what I'm going to do is I'm going to show you what, because I think
that's what everybody wants to know is like, okay, great.
Like what do I do with this?
Um, so what I'm going to do is sign out completely.
So I'm going to pretend to be a totally new user.
Okay.
And, um, I'm going to start a new tab here and I'm going to paste that giant link.
And you can see like, it is extremely long.
Um, and it's there for a reason because it's, it's got some security things and
stuff, so, um, you can, uh, use this if you want to make it short and pretty.
Uh, you could use like something like Bitly or any of those tools.
So, uh, this, these are all free.
Um, I think you can go, let's say I went, let me just show you how to do it.
So you, everybody has it.
So let's paste your long link in there and you can say, get your link.
Of course it wants you to, it's free, but you have to of course, sign in.
Let's see.
I don't want to pay you and there it is.
So it's, it's giving me this link here now.
Okay.
Um, and I can edit it even if you want to, uh, change this.
So if I just said like, uh, you know, Cindy's group or something like that.
So you don't have to keep the code they give you.
Yeah.
So it's super easy.
That could be like bit.ly slash Cindy's group.
Um, so that's just a little hack and those things are free.
Uh, you can also create a QR code, which is great.
So create the QR people can, you know, any of you guys could pull
up the, you know, that on your phone.
Now, um, you can create, unless as long as you don't create more than
10,000 codes this month, you should be fine.
Um, apparently what the limit is, I don't know who's, who's creating that.
Um, okay.
So, so now let's just go, I'm, I'm signed out.
I go to bit.ly.
So let's say I put that link in the description of your YouTube or I put it
in or Facebook posts, any, yeah.
TikToks, the links aren't clickable in the comments, but if you had, um, a
profile, yeah, what you can also do is tell people like, Hey, just DM me for
the link, if you do a DM, then those links will be clickable and it's a
little less spammy, but so I'm going to click on that.
And so this takes me to a page that says, Hey, um, you're about to sign up for the
in Jesus, you belong, uh, and people can go in here.
So I'm going to make a brand new account.
So you guys can see, um, this is just be like a Cindy test and do this,
like click on the link, sign up.
So you guys know exactly what the experience is.
Cause it's a little nerving, nervous to send people, um, that, so I'll do this
and they'll create a little password.
I'll create a password and they click submit and then they'll, it'll say like,
Hey, we're redirecting you to the group.
And then, um, you just wait a second.
And what they're going to do is they're going to land on a page like this.
So this is where they can either go to the website, either
go to the iPhone or Android.
So if they're on their mobile devices, they can download the app and they can
decide where they want to access it from.
If I click here, of course I'm in the, I'm in the Bruce account, but if I,
uh, I think I don't even remember the email I used.
Um, nope, it's not that one.
Um, but then you just sign in with that account.
You just create it.
Essentially.
I forgot what, maybe it was demo.
Um, no, I forgot.
I could sign in and use Gmail, but I'm, did I say Gmail?
Well, then that would be not a, not a real email.
Um, so that's sort of the process.
And when they sign in, they'll be able to see, see it.
Um, so I'm going to go, let me get in real quick and so I'll
get back into my, my Bruce account.
Um, one thing that is confusing is if you guys are signed in here as your
admin, you click on this, I'll show you what this does.
If I hit copy link, uh, let me do yours.
Sorry, I hit copy link and I just go to a new tab.
I'm still signed in as Bruce, as the admin.
And I just hit enter it already knows you're signed in and it just
says, Hey, we're redirecting you.
And then you, you go here and you click access.
And now I'm like, basically back into my regular account here and I can sign
in and I'd, I'd be added to the group.
I still get added to the group, but it's not the experience
that everybody else would have.
Um, so now if I go up here, I should see in Jesus.
belong is here.
So, cool.
What was I going to, oh, I was going to, yes.
But does that, does that help a little bit?
Yeah.
And then, so there's nothing on my dashboard that says users.
Is users different?
Like, is users what my audience is going to be called?
Yeah, we call them, they can be members.
We can't think of them as like members of a group.
You can, as the group admin, if you're on this group,
you can hit settings.
And then there's a members tab here.
So there you could see Bruce, Cindy Test at Gmail.
There's Bruce, and I can actually remove that person
from the group here if you ever need to.
You can also click on that person
and see all the posts that they've had in your group.
So it's in my settings.
Yeah, it's just in, we kind of moved it over here.
So it's kind of closer to the community.
So it's not on the dashboard.
It's not on the dashboard.
These things are all kind of merging
into one more simple tool.
Because you have users on your dashboard.
I do, because that's, because you're a user
and everybody's a user.
And this is actually not very helpful at all
because there's like 700 people in this list.
And there, it's every, I'm a super admin.
So mine's a little bit different
because I can help and get to each of your groups
in the platform to help you do support.
We'll probably add, but the things you can do here
are very similar to what you can do here.
If you hit the settings, members,
you can see who's in the group.
You can kick people out if you want.
So if I want to get my sister in there,
she's kind of my test person right now
that I can have test it all out for me.
And then I know how to respond
without doing it to a complete stranger
and freaking them out.
Yeah, you can send them that link.
And I mean, you can just go to Bitly
and create that signup link
and then share that link with her.
Like you could text it.
You could share, you know.
We do have like something scoped out for April
where there's kind of a different way
of getting people in where you want to invite people.
So I think what we'll do is like right around here,
we'll probably have an invite button.
You can paste five or one to, you know,
10 emails or whatever.
And it'll just send an email that says,
hey, Cindy has invited you to In Jesus You Belong.
Click, yes, I'd like to join.
And it'll be a little bit more streamlined.
Getting people into the group is obviously super important.
So I want to make sure that is as easy as possible.
That's one thing I could not figure out
for the life of me how to do.
I couldn't even find them in my dashboard.
So now that you created that Bitly link,
do we need to do something in my account
and put it back to normal
so that I go and do that myself or?
No, the link's technically the same.
It doesn't matter that you created or I created.
I can still use that same link with Bitly.
The link stays the same forever.
So this link to get to In Jesus You Belong
will always be that link.
But I can use that shortened Bitly one
even though you created it.
Yes, or you can make a new one.
Bitly, you can have this multiple things on Bitly
go to the same URL if you want.
Okay, so we can just leave it technically.
And then now mine's already created.
So that's what I'll be giving people
in my description on YouTube,
that little link.
And then my other question is,
so we don't need a domain name
because it's all based on a link, right?
Correct, yeah.
And then email.
So when they sign up, they're signing up with email.
Am I able to email people
and do I have like an email service in built-in tribe
that I can email them back and forth,
kind of like give newsletters or do any of that?
Is that a whole separate thing on my own?
So soon, yeah, I think we have something
where you'll be able to like create
like an email blast to people
and they can just reply back to your email.
The easiest way to do this
is if you go again to your members,
there's a button up here,
it's kind of small and hidden,
but it says copy email list.
Okay.
And what that will do is it'll just grab,
let's say you have a hundred people in here or 50 people,
it'll just grab all those emails.
addresses and it'll all be comma separated and you can just go over to
Gmail or Outlook, uh, mail and just hit paste and all those email addresses.
And you can just write them an email, um, directly from you to them
and send share updates, uh, that way.
And then if they reply, it obviously comes back to you.
Um, that's probably like the easiest kind of short-term fix.
I wouldn't recommend going and setting up active campaign or kit.co.
You can a hundred percent.
It's just another tool to have to go learn.
Um, whereas this will all be kind of in here soon.
So I always recommend starting super simple because also when you're small,
when you're growing the group, when it, when it is a new group and it's growing,
like trying to get people connected to you as best as possible.
So having some of those like big newsletter platforms and stuff, it's
like, Oh, that'd be so cool.
Like one day I'll do that.
But actually kind of, it feels less personal than if it just came from Cindy.
And if someone's thinking of like, Oh, like I was curious if you did coaching,
I was curious if you have a book, I was curious if you have a product, like you
can just respond like a normal human back to them versus being like this.
Beautifully designed corporate, you know, newsletter thingy.
So it's kind of like, it's, it seems a little simple, but it actually
kind of leads, um, it probably gonna lend itself to be more authentic.
So it'd be more fun actually just to do like a live video, kind of like you do
where you, you post a video to us in the, in the community, that is actually, um,
that would be more fun than typing out emails and doing all that for sure.
Sorry if there's some background noise, uh, some meltdowns.
Uh, so yeah, this is real life.
Um, so yeah, the, the, the way you do the broadcast, if you want to do that,
um, going to community here, let me go to pioneers.
So the way I did that this morning is I would say like, Hey, like, here's my
update and we hit notify group.
And so you can say like, uh, you know, happy Monday and you can write a note
right here and then you could either just post it.
So just, they'll just get a text update.
You don't always have to go live post and notify, or you can go live and notify.
Um, so I did this morning, I did a go live and notify and hopefully
you guys all got a push notification.
Um, and then you would get that, uh, that would show.
And the cool thing about that is it also shows up as a post in the feed.
So that's sort of like an instant replay.
If people want to click on this, they can come back and watch, um, that as well.
Awesome.
Well, I think that helps tremendously because I felt so lost as to the big
picture of the whole thing and how it was going to work and I wasn't sure how
soon I was going to be able to actually invite people in there.
Um, so basically it's ready.
I mean, I don't have anything in there, so obviously I'm going to
put some stuff in there first.
But on the tech side, the backend, everything is technically ready that I
would need before I invite a person in there.
Yes.
Uh, so everything you need is there.
Um, exactly.
Uh, and then using the invite is like just a simple way for now, copy email
addresses, if you do want to send an email and then, um, like I said, the
invite pieces were wanting to let you like put emails in there and then
basically it would take care of emailing that person and giving them
the link and all that stuff.
Cause sometimes that'll just be easier.
Um, and even having, we're thinking of having things like reminders as well.
So like, let's say you invite someone, uh, because this is the thing, emails,
email, if you guys are in any other coaching program, like it's just stuff
gets lost all the time, trying to get people to show up on a live call
using emails, quite difficult.
So.
Email's great, but it also is not like the necessarily most effective way.
Um, so you have to kind of be very noisy with an email.
Cause people, it goes to spam, people get lost in all their inbox.
So we're thinking of doing something where it like invites it and then it
waits a day if they haven't invited, be like, Hey, you still have an invitation
ready from Cindy goes three days.
Hey, like you still have it.
Like basically it'll take a week to like get that person in.
It's like, Hey,
and that's like automated.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
We'll make it more and more silly as it goes on.
Like Cindy's waiting.
She's she can't find you in the group yet.
Like, no, we'll, we'll make it something like that.
Cause those are stuff we just want to automate and the app knows if that
person's accepted or not.
So we can just keep iterating on it.
You don't have to create a whole automation, um, where that's all stuff
that we have to do, or like, you know, a hundred X is doing and all these
other apps, like you have to create these crazy animation sequences to do.
stuff like that, but if we do it in the app, it's pretty easy. I have one more quick question before
I go. I feel like the Lord's been showing me that most of my people are going to be Gen Z
with some millennials for my audience, for new believers.
Are they generally ones that will pay for something like that, like a community that's
just for them that's going to have a bunch of stuff in there for them? It's not just
going to be community. There'll be resources. I wouldn't even know how much to charge for that,
for a new believer. The best thing is to experiment. I don't know. It's not a specific
answer. People are going to value, of course, if they can see value, it's easier to add
a price to it. I would say at the beginning, just try to get talking to people. Just get as
many people as you can in there for free. Pedro said this on Tuesday, but a lot of time when
you're pioneering, the business model is the thing that you think of at the end. It's just
serve people, love them, get them breakthrough. Then as you're going, you can see where the needs
are. They really need a course about this, or they really need a book, whatever the resources
are. The most breakthrough they're going to get is maybe a private coaching session with you.
You don't necessarily have to think about how you're going to make money right now,
but I would say take that obstacle away. I've seen other people, it's like creating perception
and the value of it, saying like, hey, I'm thinking of charging $49 or $50 for this thing,
or $10 a month for this. For now, I'm letting everybody in for free and just let them in.
That way people, I don't know, you can do things like that where there is value. You could charge
for it technically, but right now, you're just more interested in helping people.
Yeah, that's why I wanted to just start with a free one and just get my feet wet
and figure out what I'm doing and see if I can do it and all that stuff. Thank you so very much.
Anytime, yeah, for sure. Again, drop stuff in the community if you guys have more questions
or strategy. I'll be here all week. Thank you.
I don't know if it was Holly or Jennifer, I think, let's see, who was...
Either one of you, whoever's... Holly's showing up first on my screen, but
she's just at the beach. Oh, there she is. I think you're muted. Let's see.
Yeah, that is our real beach that we live by. Okay, so I was feeling like everything's
disconnected as well. Then listening to all of this, I have more questions now. First of all,
in my tribe social, I don't have courses as a tab. Does that matter?
We can fix that. Okay. Then my other question is, so right now,
I have my group just... I created it where you said to, but does that automatically show up on
my tribe social, or do I need to go put it over there as well?
It should. We can look and see how you've got it set up, but yeah, we can get that.
You need the courses tab and you need a new group to show up.
Well, I guess I just am not sure how it's supposed to be. I can go put it over there.
I'm doing the same thing. I'm creating a free group, and then I'm going to... That's just to
collect, give people a taste, get emails, and then I'm going to offer a paid one.
What you just said earlier to Xavier is that we don't need to use Gumroad, because I was trying to
create that group on Gumroad. Are you saying no, we don't need to use Gumroad?
Create that group on Gumroad. Are you saying not to do that?
Yes. Well, do you need to take a payment?
I need to take a... Not for the free one, I guess, but for the other one I do,
but I do have a Stripe account already.
Right. Okay. There's lots of tools. I mean, there's so many ways to take money.
If you have a Stripe account, you can just go in and create a product in Stripe,
and it'll give you a link, a public link you can share to someone, and they can go buy it.
Or you can plug Stripe into a number of tools.
Are you saying that's cheaper because they don't...
It is definitely cheaper. It's not as like... Gumroad is easy in that you just push a few
buttons, and then they give you a link, and it's done. You just have to use a little bit more
extra manual steps with Stripe to make sure that once that person...
and pays just that you send them the link to create their account.
Okay.
Um, do you, I mean, you have a way, you're obviously running a business.
So like, I'm sure that you have a way to collect payments.
Is it, are you just using Stripe or how are you?
Yeah.
I'm using Stripe.
Yeah.
Okay.
So same thing.
What you can do is like, if there's a way to customize the thank you message or
the thank you email that goes out after they buy from Stripe, you can literally
just include the magic link in that.
So just to follow up on that.
So that's what I do.
So in square or I use square though, but there's a way that you can add once in
the receipt there, you put the URL right there, and then it sends them in their
receipt, like a link to then go to the course.
I don't know if that's Stripe.
I was thinking it was square.
And does it, does it have the option to then send a thank you
page from Stripe you're saying?
Square does.
Sorry.
I was thinking it was the same thing.
So I would imagine Stripe does too.
Yeah.
Let me check.
That's how you set it up.
Let's check.
This is unnecessarily complicated.
So this is why we are doing all the Stripe stuff for you and putting it into the app.
So if you're needing it today, like do the Stripe thing.
If you need it in like the next couple of weeks, it'll, it will be, it'll be ready
soon.
Okay.
I don't need it today.
I just, I'm not, yeah, I don't need it today.
Yeah.
I don't need it today.
I'm just trying to get everything streamlined so people can sign up.
Yes, for sure.
And I, yeah, I just don't have a context for how it all goes.
Okay.
So, um, if you're in the account, you can come in here, you can create
products and things like that.
Um, so we have, uh, you can create a payment link, create new, so this
would be like your group name or whatever, and you can choose, we have
a bunch of random products in here, um, that people can buy.
Um, and so if you, let's say you click on a product, it's going to create this
little preview here of what that checkout form would look like.
And after payment, um, you can say a few things, like you can say, like, um,
replace custom default message, and you can say, you know, like, great, you
know, um, sign up on, uh, or get access using this link, you would then go over
here, go to your group.
Oh, that's the wrong one.
Uh, where'd it go?
This one.
What's your group name?
Uh, radiant daughters.
Cool.
So we'll copy the link, um, hit paste and see, it's not super pretty, but you
could use Bitly if you wanted, but that is the magic link and it is clickable.
So, um, that, that means that, so the payment pages like this, you can do
there's check boxes here of like, you know, if you need their address or not,
don't need their address or all that stuff, add coupons, things like that.
Um, and, uh, the description and all that can be set at the product level.
And then when you're done with this, it's going to create a link.
So you'll, you'll click create link.
Um, and then you'll get this, this link.
So if someone wants to buy something from you, uh, let's say on our, I don't know
if we changed, I think we just changed this on our website, but let's say
there's a landing page and you said like, buy now, you would just link
that button to this checkout form.
And it would look something like this.
If we hit enter, um, they would land on a checkout form like this and
it would have the product they can load in their credit card, um, and
address and then, you know, jump in.
Okay.
Um, okay.
Hopefully that makes sense when I start to do it.
Yeah.
And you, there's a recording of this, um, we'll throw it in the replays.
So if you want to pause, is this in tribe social, this is in, um, Stripe.
Oh, it's in Stripe.
I was jumping between the two, but my other question is, so my free group.
That's going to be free just to collect emails and get people to know me.
That's I wanted that to be my lead magnet.
Does that make sense?
So you said that you could attach a lead magnet into tribe social, but I couldn't
find, you said there was a video, but I couldn't find it on how to do that.
Um, so there's, so all of your content, um, let's say I, every time you create
a piece of content, it's going to create a, um, let's say like, so we streamed,
you know, the session from, from Pedro.
So I can create a view lead magnet page.
Um, and so what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the, what's the
lead magnet?
So what that does is it grabs a little page here for that piece of content.
So if I were to go and just put like Bruce and I said, you know, Bruce
at Novo and it get access, I'm in, and I can watch the session, right?
Um.
And I can share this, and it's just a little, like, two-step lead magnet.
What you can do is...
I would make a video or something that tells people about the community,
or gives them a free... Let's say we give a free...
There's so many strategies for this, but if you want them to use this,
see a video from you, and then underneath you could have a button,
you can do that as well.
I could show you how to do that.
If you just want to get people, like,
hey, here's a link to my free community, then just go here.
Do you have the free community created?
Well, I did it...
I was doing it in Gumroad, so now I don't think I want to do that.
Yeah, we may have confused the Gumroad thing.
It's just there for... It's like another...
If you had Stripe, you just didn't need to do anything in Gumroad.
It's just a super fast way to get payments, essentially,
and get a checkout form.
So, I can just create it in Stripe.
Yes, for your payments, you could do in Stripe.
For your free group, you would do the same thing.
Let's say this Rating Doubters was your free group.
You would copy this sign-up link.
Same thing we just did with Xavier, and then with Cindy.
You copy this link, and you can share this under a YouTube video.
You can share it on social media, and just let people know, like,
hey, here's how to get free access to my community.
They click on it, and they'll just go through that sign-up process.
It essentially is a lead magnet in itself,
because once they're in, now you've got their email address
when they join the group.
And where do I... Okay.
So, should I put that lead magnet on my tribe social page?
Like, what do I attach it to, or where do I put it?
Where do you... How are you wanting to get people in?
Well, I was going to do it through, you know, Instagram, social media, stuff like that.
Great. So, like, I create the group.
I'm going to make it for you right now, so we have it.
This will just be Holly's free group.
You can rename it.
I'm going to assign this to you.
Take me out.
We'll make it private, and it's safe.
So, that's done.
But now it's created, and will that show up in my app as well, if I create it here?
Yes. So, if you go now to the app, obviously, I'm signing as me,
but let me give myself access to your groups.
Let's go here, so I could go, like, Holly's demo group,
and also...
Or a free group.
Yeah. Oh, there's a demo.
Yeah, I see what we made.
We have two in there.
Okay. And I'll just add Radiant there.
I try not to be in all of your groups.
Don't worry.
I had Macy, like, clear me out of everything.
Like, why am I getting Radiant Daughter?
I mean, I'm glad you're doing that, but I'm going to be, like, the creepy one dude in that group.
So, cool.
So, now, if I go here, like, yeah, if I go back up here, it's one of the links for me.
Holly's free group, Radiant Daughters.
I'm already in it, of course, because I just manually added myself.
But here I can see members.
I can see the community feed.
If I went over to the Holly's free group, it's just going to redirect me back here,
and that's just because I didn't really set it up properly.
If I go back to Holly's free group and go to pages, I just need to turn on, let's say, the community.
If I want a course, whatever things that you want can go here.
And then how do I get that to collect emails?
It is going to collect the emails.
So, yes, it's doing all it's I think you're maybe there's maybe you're thinking there's, like, more steps than there are.
Yeah, I think I am.
So it's not that not that complicated, hopefully.
You would go into your free group.
So now once you're in the group, you can hit the settings here.
And if you went to members, you can see everybody in the list.
So, of course, it's just me right now.
But you can you'll have access to all of their email addresses here.
And if you want to have this little shortcut, you can click this button here and it copies the entire list of all the emails.
And you can paste that into your, you know, CRM or you can just paste it into Outlook or Gmail and just send an email to everybody if you want.
So I have one more question, and this might sound really dumb, but so the the Radiant Daughters that I created with the picture and everything, I did that on Gumroad.
So now to create the group here in Tribe Social, can I put pictures?
and descriptions, it allows me to do all that?
For your, for the course or the community?
For the free group, for the free group.
Yeah, I didn't upload it.
But you just choose the cover photo here.
I'll put something there, so it's not totally blank.
But yes, if you put something.
And then in the description, I can include all the.
Right, yeah.
Okay, thank you.
Okay, it's a lot more simple than I was thinking, okay.
Yeah, so it's kind of all self-contained.
It's simple, like in some ways.
In other ways, it's designed by like engineers
and not super intuitive.
So we're trying to work on making it just a,
ideally you would just be on this page
and you would just, you know, be on this page here
and you just create your first group all here.
It's gonna be a little bit easier moving forward.
But it's like, I think the confusing,
I mentioned this at the beginning of the call,
like the dashboard.tribe and app.tribe social
and all that, trying to get rid of all that.
Everything's gonna be on tribe.social
and it'd be a little bit easier,
a little bit more intuitive.
I think it's not intuitive right now, I agree.
So don't, you can blame us for that.
You didn't, it's not that you didn't get it.
It's like, I don't think it's super obvious.
So.
Okay, and then if I have,
so if I created a lead magnet somewhere else,
can I attach it?
I guess that's what I'm trying to ask.
Can I attach it there?
Well, the lead magnet would just be
like just to get the lead essentially.
Yeah.
I think the community is probably solid.
That's solid, okay.
Cause we're getting,
that's probably a good solution for now.
If you just have like, here's a,
like the community is quite a big draw card.
Essentially there's more,
you could have lots of resources.
You could have lots of things in that community.
The lead magnet trick on the content
just gets you to one piece of content.
So it lets you go, like here's a PDF,
like an ebook or here's the first chapter of my book.
Yeah, so I have that too.
Where do I put that?
I do have something like that.
So what do I, how do I use that?
Cool.
So you'll just create it as a piece of content here.
Okay.
Add content.
So we'll make Holly's lead magnet
and you could choose what you want it to be.
Is it an article?
Are they downloading a PDF?
Is it a podcast?
Is it a video?
Like, is it a training that you want to give them?
And you can even click external
and there's like even tons of more,
like a YouTube video or other things.
Okay.
So you can do that.
You can upload a thumbnail
and then let's say you're done with that.
Then once you've got the piece of content here,
you can grab any piece of content
and just say view lead magnet
and it'll give you this link out here,
which you can just share that anywhere.
And then they'll put,
it's just a little way for them to create their account.
So they just put their name and email
and then on the next page, you can watch the content.
There's no getting to other groups and jumping apps.
It's like, put your email on the next page.
They're just going to start watching the content.
Okay.
Thank you.
This is very helpful.
Thank you.
No problem.
Yeah.
It's a, yeah.
Great.
Cool, cool.
I should go live on Thursdays more often
because last time there was two people
and you guys have all these questions this time.
It's great.
Yeah.
I think Jennifer.
Yeah.
You had a question?
Yeah.
Hi.
I'm impressed with everybody.
I feel like we're all doing a great job.
Good job, everyone.
Everybody's doing stuff.
Like even while we're talking,
I don't know who was creating,
there's a groups or content being created.
I'm creating groups.
There you go.
Great.
Okay.
So more of what I want to talk to you within Excel,
of course, that's where I think.
And I just want to talk through like the roadmap plan.
Yeah.
One of the things that's been really interesting
over the last two months of launching everything
under Prosper Always is that guides told me
to kind of lay that down and split the two,
which is like the exact opposite of,
kind of some of the ideas of like merging ministry
with business.
And so I have a 501C3 called like C320 Ministries.
And then I have my DBA, Jennifer Miller company.
So I just DBA Dream Big Adventure.
And so I've just done,
finished the four week course
with a couple of ladies that joined.
You know, they paid me for it
and I've gotten some feedback from them.
So then when I want to talk through,
there are a bunch of questions kind of on the new plan.
I'm launching one, you know, this, you know, in April
and I'm going to launch the other one in May
to just kind of relaunch this now that I've.
done it once and like how to do it like better and more or less the same. So I'm excited what
you just said about all of the you know tools that you're going to integrate because I felt
like the biggest issue I had in launching everything was the disconnect between the Tribe app
and the you know the Zoom calls that I would do and emailing out of the app and like not getting
the engagement. So I'm excited that it's going to be more like I want to build a community not just
sell content and so I felt like it wasn't really all coming together and so I'm excited you know
for more of the features or more of the ways to like mentor like even a mentorship call would
be helpful with someone who's a really good community builder of like and I think you know
you're doing a good job with like the talking of like what are the other ways that we could really
leverage the Tribe app to build more like quality and value and like you know is it a Monday morning
live and coffee with us and like how are you posting comments and you know kind of thinking
about Graham Cook's app like there's so much like what you know like resources and wealth
in his brilliant app like how could we really use this app to like serve our people
like more and get excitement and engagement in it. I would love like ideas and brainstorming
around that. Gotcha. Okay so we can talk through engagement. Did you want to cover like
no I have some strategy. That's just something for a future so okay sorry that's not my questions.
That's good. It's just more of like my takeaway from the last two months of launching so
so this is the so my questions here I have some questions on this side. So originally I had this
12-week you know kind of download from God called Dream Big Adventure. I wrote like a guidebook that
I need to finish editing and launch that and turn it into a book but what the takeaway I got from
some of the women was can you just do this in four weeks like we don't have time as an entrepreneur
women to like watch a 12-week course and so what I ended up doing is on the fly instead of launching
the 12-week I launched and created from scratch a four-week version of this and they loved it.
I probably packed a lot of information in there but I still feel like there's a lot of value in
things that got missed because we didn't do the full 12 weeks. So one of my questions would be I
don't want to have a four-week that funnels into the 12-week because I feel like I'm siphoning like
four or five of the weeks into the four-week. So one idea I had was having that be one group
and they pay the $2.97 and they can choose their adventure like they can choose to do the quick
start guide of four weeks kind of like how you have the four-week launch and then they also get
access like we get access to Pedro's 12-week. So then does that make sense from the standpoint of
like they watch on their own the content and then I have a weekly call with them that's coaching,
mentorship, Q&A and depending on where they are because it's all about going after your god dreams
like I just answer kind of on the fly coaching questions or is that creating confusion having
kind of all of these in the same thing. Yes okay so
this is good so I think it's great and the important thing that I heard here is like you
did the thing you're talking to the people and now you're like on version two or three right so
yeah three this is my third version so you're doing it you're moving challenge live I just did
the four-week and now I'm trying to figure out what's perfect yeah I think there's a number of
ways so is the question really around like packaging like how do we package it to make it
just yeah like am I holding on like I kind of felt like what you know am I holding on to like an old
idea that I really want to launch this 12-week but my current who really only has time for this
four-week and then what do I do with this is that just the book or do I go ahead and record it and
give it as a bonus and like they can have access to this if they want to 100 okay that makes sense
um so I think if we kind of use like Pedro's you know analogy here is like you're here and you're
just trying to grow people into a certain thing um I would consider like yes getting them to not
even to the finish line but there's you know that's your sort of 12-week plan and there's
something here you know at four weeks right um that's what I would breaking it up's not a bad
idea um just you know there's tough and and there's another 12-week thing after that probably
right like no one this isn't sort of an infinite game it's the launch your dream business course
right so um oh there's this is and there's an infinite line going up to up and to the right so
I think what I would say is when you have newer people that don't know you very well this is um
you know, there's little baby steps they can take.
If they're, this was 297, is that what you said?
Yeah, I'm thinking I'm gonna just lower it to 297
and then charge more for this,
exactly didn't have to find.
Yeah, so you could either,
so what I would do for your newest people is like,
how, think about like,
how can I get them the biggest breakthrough
in the shortest amount of time?
There's always a good question.
And you have to keep iterating out this every so often.
How could like, if the goal is some dream thing about here
of like, I want to get to,
is it for the launching the business concept?
It's like, I think I'm redefining it
because the people that stuck with me
through the 12 weeks were entrepreneurs
and the women that all signed up
and actually attended everything
and did the work were entrepreneurs.
So I feel like what's been clear
is like the launch of this
is really around kingdom women entrepreneurs.
Great, I love it.
So think of like baby steps,
like maybe it's they do that,
there's sort of milestones along this
where they're gonna see some sort of results
at each of these different steps.
It's sort of, they think of it like
from the customer journey standpoint
of like you open a product, you bought,
let's say like, I'm trying to think of a good example.
Let's say you bought like a new email marketing tool
and they're like, here's your trial.
Like you start this thing and you get in,
you're like, I don't really know if this is the tool for me,
but you open it, you put your email in
and it's like, cool, click this button
to collect all your emails and it pulls them all in.
And then it uses AI to like map out all your hottest leads.
And within like minutes,
you have data that you didn't ever have
in your business for free.
And so you've kind of got this like
super quick time to value.
So you wanna kind of track like,
how do we get a huge win in four weeks?
Because if you get them a huge win in four weeks,
like they're like, just tell me what's next.
Like give me the 12th week,
give me the next four weeks, whatever.
I think if you have like, so this is your,
is this the Empower Your Dream?
So this is my client journey.
And I'm realizing that this,
I think I don't need anymore
or it needs to just be a bonus kind of with this four weeks.
And I ended up doing Launch Your Dream
instead of this Empower Your Dream one.
And this content is gonna go into the 501C3 instead.
Okay, gotcha.
That's great.
I think for your, okay, as an entrepreneur and a pioneer,
like we spend so much energy going into these product ideas.
So for your own like, you know, peace of mind,
I would, if you have, you know,
build out the 12 week course in Tribe,
have a course that's called the 12 week course.
If you have it, I think you said
you did already record it, right?
You can sort of-
Not in, I haven't recorded it in Tribe.
It's from like years ago.
Yeah, if you haven't done it, that's fine.
If you've got the content, where I was going with it
is like you could have it as a product
and have it as separate courses
within a particular group or apply it.
Like, I guess, I didn't know if you had a feeling
where you were like, felt like you're,
you put all this work into it,
but now it's like not gonna get used essentially.
Yeah, I think it goes back to like stewardship
of feeling like God gave me this amazing download
and I think it's so awesome.
And I wanna create a kid's version of this.
I wanna have like women's retreats
where we go out in the woods and we hike
and we go through this.
Like, I feel like it's a whole identity,
but then I'm feeling like my who
is calling for something different.
And so I'm struggling with the tension of saying,
wait, this is amazing.
And people are like, I don't really have time for it.
And so then I feel confused around
they're pulling from me something different.
And so is this an old idea I need to lay down
and just not do anymore?
Or is this still, there's still a purpose in it,
but maybe not yet.
Or it's, I can just kind of package it together
because I might attract people who want the 12 weeks.
And so I think that's where right here I had a question.
If I have the four week, could I in the course,
say like put a link in there that says,
or see week five of the Dream Big Adventure course,
if you wanna learn more about resting with God.
Like there's so much I feel like I don't talk about here.
Like this is, yeah.
A quick start, but it's all about execution.
Yes.
It's about like breakthrough and mindset versus this one's about like the journey
with God and experiencing him and building your relationship.
And like, I think this creates longevity.
This is like quick action.
And these are courses.
Is there a, is there a live?
Okay.
So this was originally a challenge.
And I don't, I thought instead of doing a live challenge to just pre-record the
course and then have a weekly Q and a call like you do, where it answers
questions, do they have any questions?
So that's what I did for this one is I like emailed them the content and the
workbook, and then we got on a call and we discussed it because they needed to do
deep work before, like, I didn't feel like they could really benefit from the
call if they hadn't like taken time to hear God and like come prepared versus
this originally was a 12 week challenge.
And so maybe that's to your point, this is the evergreen sales funnel
that goes from here to here.
And then twice a year, I launch a live 12 week challenge.
That is the like, you know, five 97 or nine 97.
And it's just, some people do both, but it's not.
Yeah.
And I think that, I mean, when you were talking about this, you also threw in
like, there's the getaways there.
So there's, it's way bigger than like this course.
Like that's sort of a whole, yeah.
It seems like, like the dream big, you know, we'll call it a DBA.
It is, it's called DBA, which is funny because it is a DBA.
It seems like this is the launch, your big dream, uh, big dream
is like sort of a subset, right?
So I think that's good.
You're going to have messages like this, where this, this is
sort of the thing you're doing, but it's, it's, there's so many
products that come out of this.
Like this right here is going to have a course.
Yes.
But it's also going to have, you know, a trip.
It's also going to have a thing.
So to me, this is like, it's kind of like your, um, I feel like this is just
like one module of the bigger thing here.
Um, and you're probably going to have not like, Oh, well there's 12
weeks here and there's four weeks there.
I'm going to have three of these modules.
I wouldn't even worry too much about that.
I would just say like, okay, I need one four week thing
that gets people to launch.
Like, and now I need another thing to get them to do this, make your first sale.
I need this thing to do that.
And you kind of think through those milestones.
You may end up with 10 courses, right?
It doesn't, I don't know.
You don't have to worry.
That was one of my questions.
If I do end up having 10 courses, because I feel like that's something I'm
gifted at is just instantaneously like coming up with a course, then.
Is there a way to sell them ad hoc?
Like on my website, like, do I use Shopify or some like thing on my
website, or is there a way where people can be in a tribe, but
choose to add on or buy courses?
Yeah, practically like you could separate them.
Um, uh, you can set up a group.
That's just a course.
There's a, um, I can technically show you how to do that where when they
open it, it's just a, it's just a course.
Um, uh, so there's no community and there's no, so it's just, you could
basically, they could give you a payment.
You can give them a link to a new group.
That's just that course.
So, and then you can still have like one group where like all those
courses are like linked nicely together.
Um, I would say like, um, like do it, do it's working.
If this group worked for four weeks, they're asking, they're
telling you they want four weeks.
Um, do that, but like sweeten it by like, Hey, what we're going to do an April.
Uh, launch your big dream course.
It's two nine seven and every Monday we're going to connect.
So you can go, go watch the thing to clarify your dream, you know, week,
and then bring like, when you get live with them, that's where you really
like tying it back to like the bigger picture and like the bigger concept.
Um, and it will let you talk more connection and, you know, dig deeper.
And I think that's where also you will learn a lot faster, um, to, uh, kind
of let them watch something and then get on a call and discuss it and talk to
people and like, where are they getting stuck because it'll, that'll be a great
feedback loop to be like, Oh, I mean, I'm doing it on this call right now.
I've got 10 things that I got to go do that.
I'm like, we need to go fix because you guys are like, you're saying, Oh,
there's this, like I need a video that shows me that, like I need
a lesson that shows me this.
Um, so when you finish that session with them, you can go and make two or three
little pieces of content, throw that into the four week course, and I've
got, you've got more things in there.
By the time you do the may one and the June and so forth.
worth, like you'll keep making that thing really solid.
Um, we have a concept in coding and building apps where we like,
it's called, uh, don't repeat yourself.
So the idea is that you do this thing once, make a video for it, put it as a
lesson, don't go and repeat yourself.
Um, if someone asks a question about something like answer it once really
well, make a lesson out of it and put it in the course somewhere.
Um, and, uh, uh, so I would say as well, like if there's, if there's things that
are in your heart, like, well, I also want them to know this they're buying the
four week course, but like, gosh, they really need this other thing.
That's a great place.
It's not the main thing, but if you kind of want to want them to have access to it,
you can throw it in as a bonus.
Um, course you could just have like a, here's the, here's the actual four week
course, but like, here's random mod things that you think, like, here's how
to, you can make a little mini course for these different things and just
keep it in that, that group.
Um, if you wanted to have like, you know, by the month, you know, so let's say you
do an April one, you could call it, we have a client that does this, they do
them in cohorts and they have an entire group called April 2025 launch your big
dream, another group may 2025 launch your big dream.
And then what happens is that cohort of people, they all join for the April.
And then they're, they're kind of in that group forever.
Um, so they'll have access to the replays forever.
They'll have access to community, but you're not necessarily in the community,
like still going live in that group.
Right.
Um, so I think that would be a good idea for this one.
Yep.
Cause I think this like goal for this one is to like keep growing it and feeding it
and they stay in it if they want to, because that eventually feeds them into
here, which then feeds them into my bigger vision, which is to create an
alliance where women are supporting women's dreams, meaning I have the
person who's the branding person.
I have the person who's the accountant.
I have the person, whatever.
And then they hire within the alliance.
Right.
It's like not just birthing the dream, but it's like giving them all the
tools and the connections and community to like grow it and mother it.
Not just like birthing.
Okay.
That makes sense.
Uh, so you could, I think that maybe we were getting stuck on is like,
like what do these two, like, this is my, like, this is a bigger vision to
your point where I feel like it's the seed of like the loaves and fish God
gave me and I can see where he could multiply it into like these 20 different
like, yeah.
And then like, that's going to be my podcast is like big, right.
And like, there's, there's so much and I've had this in my heart for years.
And then all of a sudden my who is like, we don't want it.
We want this, right.
Yeah, I think, okay.
I think I'm, it's coming, it's coming together.
Um, I think you can have people start, I think this is great.
The four week, if that's working and that price, I think that's a great price
point people would risk 300 bucks.
And if they, you know, it doesn't work out great.
I think you should have something here where it just goes like either like 12
months or it goes to a monthly fee.
Ideally, like maybe it's two nine, seven a month or it's, um, you know, uh, if
it's two fifth, let's just do the math quick.
Maybe it's 2,500 for the year or three K for the year.
Um, I'm just reminded of like, and talking to this, like, you know, I think
there's a five, 10 and a 15 and 25 K.
Jennifer Miller program, right?
Like, I think there's some bigger things in there, so don't make it too small.
Um, but something where it's like two nine, seven, one, and then you have
something, maybe this is five K or something for the year.
Uh, and then they just get all things.
Cause I think the problem is with the launcher business.
Um, I have never launched a business in eight weeks.
I don't know how to launch.
I don't know if that's possible, right?
Yeah.
So I think also it helps us at expectations.
Like I have the four week plan to launch your first challenge
and make your first 10 K.
We started that in November and now it's almost April.
And so we're still trying to do that.
Everybody's trying to do it.
And I was like, this is great, but everybody paid their one time.
They're not like the, the less you can talk about money, like people paid
annually they're in, and now like we're, we're, we're, we're doing the work.
Like, I'm not talking to people about money.
It's a beautiful thing.
Um, I've just go serve them now for the next 12 months.
So you have that, Hey, you get some value.
We'd love you to join this thing, right?
This is the next step.
And you can, um, have this, what I would do is like, um, in this, maybe
they're just invited to the, like this, this, once you're running this guy,
like there's a, um, you're doing a weekly call anyway, if you want to let
those people in for those four weeks.
Or they're, they get access for a certain time.
It can get complicated, like the logistics of it, but you get what I'm saying.
Maybe it's a separate call.
I don't know.
Um, but you, they, I think getting a taste of talking to you every week is worth.
Yeah.
So these would both have their own weekly call, a separate one.
Okay.
And like you, I would have mentors and people show up, you know, like I have
tons of women entrepreneur kingdom friends and they would come on,
like, she's an expert in branding.
She's an expert in podcasting.
She's an expert in accounting.
She's an expert in investment P and E like, right.
So that's what that vision was.
And then I think what I like is what you're telling me is I actually really
love doing this live because it's an adventure and a journey with
friends is the whole point of it.
So twice a year, I do this challenge live.
That's a separate sales funnel offshoot.
But the ultimate is this funnel.
Like they do a free, they do the four, they do the 12 month.
And then this is kind of a separate.
And I think, I mean, I feel like a ton of clarity just talking through that
with you, because I think that's what I didn't, uh, I felt weird about
like taking something that's so amazing and just putting it into a course
when it's really about building friendships, praying together, the
breakout calls, the it's the journey.
It's not really the content, but this is about the content and the tools.
Yeah.
Okay.
I think this is great.
And I forget like the, you had the events here as well.
Um, yeah.
And then we're going to pull in children to like my kids.
So I'm going to create a kid's version of all of that.
Once a year, we're going to have where the kids are invited to the event
and they'll have a kid's breakout.
Um, and my daughter's like 15 and she leads the preschool at our church.
So she's going to help like run this kid's program.
Um, but twice a year, the moms will have no kids, but once a
year I want to bring kids along.
That's cool.
I, I, somebody didn't see the, the events thing.
Okay. So I think this is great.
This is the part I don't like.
I, it can't be 3k.
Okay.
It needs to be more than that.
Oh, so much more.
Let me, so here's, let me give you some context, like for, for 10 K.
Okay.
Let me just, I'll give you the number.
No, no, no.
Yeah. Don't write it down yet.
Let's just think about for a second.
Okay.
So like, um, we're in another program, uh, it's called SAS Academy.
It's just for softwares.
That's kind of the tribe.
Yeah.
Dan Martell.
So it's 3k a month.
Um, and there's three trips a year.
You have to pay for everything.
Right.
Um, we did it for two years.
Um, we're now like kind of getting out of it into a different mode.
They have a version with like lower pieces in there and it's a pretty, it's dialed.
Like it's as like we paid, we kept paying for it and we renewed it
cause we thought it was so valuable.
Um, it's super niche to software.
It's like exactly like how to figure out software stuff.
So I think the more you kind of niche it and make it super specific.
Now that is like a company kind of already buying.
So if it's an entrepreneur thing, I don't think you have to go crazy with it, but.
You are getting a business, like the goal is to make money.
So think of like how fast, if let's say it's 10 K, like, do you think
you can help them make 10 K you know, in that, um, Yeah.
I think the point of it is to accelerate your impact and income.
Like it's like, you know, and I, and that's where like, I wanted to talk to
you at some point when we can affiliate and like use, like have tribe social
and have you come on the call and be like, here's how you build a community.
And here's how you do your courses and challenges.
Like that's going to be a piece of it.
And then, you know, actually doing tangible product sales.
Yeah.
Um, we have like a white label version of tribe, um, just for your, so once we get,
that's why I need you, we need to get you making money so you can get that part,
but you could have like the dream, bigadventure.com platform and just
not try would never be in there and at all, but yeah, so that would, we can do
that, but I think when you add a trip, like, um, it, that makes it so much more.
Um, if you can kind of sell the, like, I would, if you're going to sell it and
pitch it, like having like in March, we are going to this thing in October.
We're doing the show pick like Pedro does this really well in his marketing and
stuff.
Like, he's like, Hey, for master's mind this year, we're going to Portugal.
And there's like a picture of a beach with like, you know, it's like it, you're
like, Oh, that's amazing.
That looks so good.
You know, it's easy to sell a trip.
Cause people are like, you know what, that would be so cool to go like for two,
three days, uh, especially like for a mom to go away.
I know Lindsay would be, you know, you're like, I would just go sit there.
And if I also get to work on business and I also get to hang out with other, you
know, like biting people, that becomes crazy valuable.
Um, so include.
Including some, some trip and kind of making that, I think you can, if it includes like, obviously they're paying for flights and maybe hotels and just being clear about that, like, you know, if it's enough, because here's what I would challenge you, I would go, I would go pray about it.
Of course, I know you have already, but just dream a little, I would say you should dream a big adventure, Jennifer, is what I'm just hearing this word, dream a big adventure.
I'm just like, sometimes it's like looking, this is literally obviously the name of your course, but I think that, like, think about it. Like, what could I do if the program was 15K? What could I do if it was 25K? What if I could, you know, oh, well, if it was 25K, I would go to like, we'd go to Cabo and we'd do this thing and like, you know.
Yeah, I want to do, I used to live in Hawaii for three years.
Nice.
And so my goal is like, at least once a year, that's the family one where we go to Hawaii.
Yeah. Alternatively, like, you can, there's so many ways to do it. I feel like the trip thing is, I think, I feel like you should do a trip this year and just figure out a way to make that work, whether it's part of the 12 months, or you just have the trip and that's a $5,000 trip to go on.
Yeah. I think I want to do one in October. So full transparency, like I've been praying and fasting for like five, six weeks. Right. And I've just been like, God, like I need breakthrough. Like I'd come to this point in my promised land where this is the third or fourth iteration of me leaving a full time job and all that security, trying to learn something and like feeling the resistance, right? Like just completely feeling like the enemy.
And so I the day my fast ended, I get all of these like, emails about CFO jobs. And like to the point where it was like, you know, right. And one came and it was like a relocation with a seven figure, like equity buyout and like 400k a year or 500k a year. And I'm like, seriously, God, like I'm, you know, making 200 bucks an hour coaching right now.
And then I like, I say no to that. Right. I'm like, Oh, I passed that test. Like I said, no. And then my like, my mentor, my old CEO is like, Hey, I have an opportunity with a private equity firm. And they want to talk to you about doing this M&A merger with them. And I'm like, God, like, and then Pedro's like, go get a job, right? Because you can't like make money off your dream.
I'm afraid.
So in my mind, when it's like between this job or this opportunity and something else, like I got to make this thing, all those numbers, like, okay, cool, Lord, like you just promised me like this potential job. That was option A. So that's whatever, seven figure this, break down the numbers, like you can put it in your spreadsheet, like total it all up. Okay, that was a, whatever, million and a half dollar opportunity.
This needs to be at least a million and a half. Like you just now set the bar, like, okay, cool. Or like, you give me that. I didn't feel the peace on that. I do feel the peace over here. I've now got qualification that you can produce value that is at this level. That's where I don't want you to be sold short on the pricing because the pricing is a huge, huge component of this.
You're going to attract one type of person versus another type of person by what you put the, what those numbers are.
And I think serving people at kind of a lower level where you have something where people are just like, just trying to get started and you have a heart for that. And like, you know, they're trying to make a business so they can make money, but they also need to be able to pay for the course that they need money to pay for the course.
So like you get into that, you know, problem. So you want to make something that's very accessible. The, the SaaS Academy thing, like we said, we have the 36k a year option is kind of those that are their main thing. And then they did, they'd come up with like a thousand dollar a month option as well, which is like most of the same things.
But they also have 150k a year option. Okay. So just like the scale is great. Just shift it, shift the multiple up a little bit higher. I would say just as you're trying to think about it.
One of the ideas I had for this challenge and also this one was to create a VIP package and everything's around like the idea of like a trip. So it's like people who want to pay for the first class version.
And that would pay more and that gets like more one-on-one time with me or
they get, I actually go through their business model and I'm giving them tools.
Right.
Like they get more.
So I can make it a 10 K with an upgrade or the five K with an
upper, like some version to your point where they're like in the same group.
But if they want to sit on the same airplane, but pay for first class,
they get more, you know,
for sure.
I think that's, I think you can do that.
Um, and with the more of you charge, the fewer people you'll have.
Right.
Obviously.
So, um, but if you can go really deep for someone like, I would, I would kind
of think about like, just the price tag is 25 K.
Like what is the bullet points that sit under that package for Jennifer's program.
Now, if you can find a way to get that to 10 or 15, but like, think of like a, in
that other business tools where they're helping you do this type of thing are not
that cheap.
So don't, um, don't like make it too cheap because people almost wonder what's wrong
with it if it's too cheap.
So definitely the, I think we're well away from the three K option.
I think there's maybe a three K upsell from the two nine seven to this three K
potentially where this is three K for the year, but it's not the trips.
It's not all of you.
Um, think of like them as concentric circles.
Like you said, the airplane analogy is good.
I also like to think about like an arena.
You've got the nosebleed seats up there, which people can watch you on social
media.
It's super cheap and you can, it's over there.
Then you kind of move your way in until you're like in the backstage pass when
that's, that's the much, the highest ticket thing you've got.
Um, and they're doing trips with you.
A trip's very like personal.
They're going to get all the FaceTime you want.
They can talk about all the things with you.
So I think the trips are, I would kind of save it for that.
Those people also, you may not want to go on a trip with like anyone, you know,
you, you can have, uh, so I think like, I think, um, I don't think that it's
going from like two nine seven to like a five K or something like that could be
good.
Just dial it back as far as what you'd be giving them, still giving them tons of
value, still giving them all the tools, but their goals may, and maybe think about
their journey is like, I have an idea and I want to launch and make my first.
You know, six figure year likes, or, or, you know, pick a number that's
like doable for them in a year.
That's like our goal is to get you to a business where you've basically
replaced your nine to five, or you've added supplemental income to your
family or whatever you, you draw like a line of where that first group is.
Cause everybody will self identify.
If you have some people that are already moving and they're already making a
hundred, 200, 300 in their business.
Um, now you can get them to half a million or whatever.
Um, or take it from there.
And then I think, cause the SAS Academy as well, they have, you have to have
like qualifications of how much monthly recurring revenue you have from your
software and they do an audit and they look at, you know, you have to prove
that you've got certain numbers coming in.
Um, you can't be in the 150 K a year program, unless you're making
3 million a year with your software.
Like that's the entry point for that other thing.
And there's people way beyond that in that group.
Um, so it kind of gives people these targets to shoot for.
And also I'm kind of like, oh, wow, there are people in this group that are
making $3 million a year doing software.
I was like, this is the place, like I'm in the right place.
Like they were in this group.
Now they've made all this money.
And now they're like, I'm in the right place.
Like I'm on the, I'm on the right journey.
Right.
Um, so I don't know what those numbers are, you know, for you, you pick, pick
those, but I think, and I think the trip could be a great selling point to get
that first group of people together.
Um, so I would picking like who you want to, I guess it's like all the
niching downs, like serving someone at who's just getting started is great.
And I think if there's a heart to do that, kind of keep it at one level.
And I almost put that in sort of a ministry mode.
Well, and that's what I think why God told me I needed to split out
exceed three 20 ministries and make that the like $47 for this course and the
free tribe, and I think that's what gets in my way of like charging the higher
price is the women that I'm friends with who are the moms, you know, who I want
to still serve, and I think that's the wisdom of like, why he has me have.
A five Oh one C three to raise donations, to help them.
And then I have the business that's geared more towards the entrepreneur
women, because I had a mom show up in my, like, you know, in my course here,
who was a friend and I gave it her free access and she didn't do the work.
Right.
And that was frustrating to me because I'm like, I'm showing up, I'm doing the
work and you're just coming on and talking about your kids and not that that's not
my heart.
But it wasn't like you weren't doing like the course work.
Every single person we've ever given any coaching program to, I think without
fail, uh, didn't finish it.
Like didn't even show up to the first couple of sessions, like, uh, whether
it's friends, family, someone won, like we used to give away the free, those
people who won the kingdom messenger, like they never, never finished the
program, never saw them like disappeared after a couple of weeks.
So, um, yeah, a hundred percent.
Uh, so that's normal.
And yeah, you kind of have to just, uh, those are just, um, you want to, it's
just a hard place cause you want to help people and you're like, this is the
thing, and it's great that you have that conviction, you should, I had someone
as well, like put it in perspective of like, okay, if they're going to buy,
this is their last $10,000, like, and they were going to give it to you.
Like, is this the product they should buy?
Like you need to kind of have that sort of conviction when you're selling it.
Um, of like, like, even if this is the last 10 K, like, this is the thing
that's going to like change your life.
Um, you have to be sort of that sold on it.
It can't be like, this could, this could work, I guess.
Like it might be good.
I don't know.
Like, um, but I think, you know, thinking of something maybe starting in that, um,
I kind of would start like put a few bullets to points of like what you think
the thing is, and, you know, 12 months launch your dream.
Yeah.
The 12, or like, I think there's a program here as well.
Months.
It could be something where you like, instead of committing to 12
months, maybe you plan the trip.
Hey, this is a five is a 10 K trip.
It was going to look like, and maybe like we do the trip and then, um, uh, you
know, a month after the trip, you do a live call for two hours.
And then a month after that, you do a live call and maybe like, so there's
like a sort of a 90 day tail that sort of, Hey, we had so much fun.
Like, let's see how your businesses are doing.
You just spend two hours with them.
Kind of very laid back.
Um, so that could be something where there's like a, like a bonus where we
just do some extra bonus calls or something to kind of make it more than
just the one life-changing event.
Um, maybe I start the first iteration of it with like a 12 week or an eight week
or something just to get like, hear it and then expand that into the 12 months.
Kind of like what I just did with, so maybe I do, instead of like eight weeks,
I do a 12 week beta or the 1997 and then expand it into like a 12 month.
And then I've already had one of the ladies from my trip say like, Hey, I
want to, you know, come up to Michigan and do a trip with you this fall.
Let me know, like I'm on board.
Um, so that's been, you know, I have people already interested in a trip.
That's great.
Yeah.
And I think, look, if you, if you have something that's working, like just keep
trying that, like the four week course thing, if that works and you get people.
Coming through that.
And then if your program works well, like your four week course works perfectly
well, it should create a new problem for them.
Oh, I just launched this thing.
Now I have no idea what to do about X.
Like now I have no idea what to do about Y like, then they get to that point.
Now they're like totally, you know, have a new problem of new things to go solve.
So thinking about that, that journey is, is good.
I think, um, I think creating like blocks of courses and stuff like you're doing
is great because you can kind of move these courses around, um, as you think
of new programs or, or however you want to do it.
Um, I think like, yeah, I think, you know, having a 10 K option in a thousand a
month or something payment plan, like something like that could, could be good.
Um, I think any starting entrepreneur that's serious, 500 to a thousand a
month is like, it should be doable.
Like it should be, um, I have a lot of people that did that.
I did a thousand dollar, like one-on-one thing where I would just talk to someone
once a week for 30 or 40 minutes.
Um, and the people who were on, we'd get, got them tons of great breakthrough,
but they were just, they had no business.
They didn't even register the LLC.
Like they're just getting started.
Um, so that should be, should be doable, but I think, um, yeah.
I think my biggest challenge in all of this is I just left like a
$200 million company, right?
Like my experience has been with a staff of 60, like being able to
not birth a teenager and birth a baby and like, let it grow and like get it
going, I mean, and that's part of like my message to like the other people is
it's like, I dream so big and I think so big, it's like getting to like slow
down and like actually start, like, I mean, building the website and I have
flow desk and I have square, like.
I'm doing all the things, but, um, it's so much just for me to do.
you and it's a lot.
A hundred percent.
Okay.
So let me, like, let me help a little bit at this is great.
This, uh, I think we did a session with Robin, um, last Thursday.
We spent like an hour on, on his like whole funnel.
And, um, Robin's been trying to do challenges for like years.
And basically after an hour, I was like, you should stop doing challenges.
Like, just don't, you don't need to do a challenge.
Like, um, we didn't start tribe like with, with this, like doing pioneers.
We could have, like, it could have definitely done something and we could
have just told people to go use another tool instead, we kind of took the Tesla
approach, which is like, go build the roadster at 200 K, um, then go make
another model S for a hundred K.
And then eventually you'll make the model Y for, you know, 30 K.
So whatever those numbers are.
But you don't go start with the lowest thing first.
Um, I would say if you had something, you know, it's $300, you kind of get in front
of people, you talk to them, even on the four week course, you just get on their
radar and you have something like, Hey, I have this thing that is X.
I mean, the more you share about like your history, the bigger,
the numbers I'm thinking.
So like, I think, you know, you know, I think just be thinking in the 25 to 50 K
thing.
So when we did tribe, we sold, I had one, we had a handful of clients, um, and we
made, it was 120 K a year to work with that, to, to, to use the tool that you
guys are getting for a few thousand dollars a month, a year, it was 120 K.
Now there's some other things, like we did a bunch of other stuff for them, but
we made, we only had to have a couple of clients.
Like I only needed three clients to do that.
And we do, we have three, we call them partner level things.
Not even on our website, we didn't, I didn't have to make a landing page.
I didn't have to make ads.
I, they came to work with us.
They wanted us to build certain things.
I invented this program that was like, okay, it's, it's a 12 month commitment.
You're paying 10 K a month or whatever it is.
And they're like, great, let's do it.
So that I only had like a few people to manage.
It was just much, much easier.
And if you wanted to, now you can go hire teams and you can, since you want to work,
if potentially like work with a team of people helping you just, you
know, jump the curve, essentially.
Um, this, the challenge and the tribe and all that stuff is, is super awesome.
It is a great way to go and like scale everything.
Like, cool.
Now we have a vision to go reach a thousand women.
That's challenges.
It's everything you're talking about on the, on this list here.
Um, but kind of starting with the, a higher end program.
Like if you were to work with someone one-on-one and get them from X point
to, or point A to point B, um, you know, I think you could, I think you kind of
dream, really do dream, dream big about this, you know, um, Anne's McDonald, who
did the whole, that whole, uh, training.
I mean, her, her programs are all 30 and 50 K and she just works with like a, and
the people who work with her have been working with her for like years.
Um, I have no idea what the average like value of the cost AVL is of
the lifetime customer value is, um, for her, but that's pretty good.
It's probably six figures, multiple six figures per customer.
Um, that might, that might be it.
Um, but I would, I would, cause then, then to the way that you sell
that then is very different.
It is using ads.
It's to a single training on like you talking to these, these, this thing,
and then it's a application to potentially work with you.
One of the questions in the application is, um, do you have $25,000 or do you
have a, or you pick the, the, there's a couple of tricks to it, but you can say
like, if it's a 30 K program, you're like, do you have enough to get started
for three K a month or a three, three, you have three K to get started or
something like that, because it's, that'll be the monthly moving forward.
Um, yes, you were just, so, so it was funny cause I've been, I think one of
my blocks has been, I haven't launched my website and social media around dream,
big adventure, because I'm going back and forth on the branding and the feel of it.
And the original like idea of it was again, this like cute, fun, you know,
kind of, um, you know, the, no, whatever.
I'm not gonna rip it off my wall, but like, it was just like icons and fun.
And this was the template that I bought.
I haven't built it yet, but this was the template, right.
Just as like light color, beachy feel.
And then Pedro was like, oh, that don't be.
cute, right? Like be bold. And I'm like, is this attracting a
$10,000 a month client, right? Like this is no, right? Like,
this is just a son. And so then I have this other one that is
more expensive, right to buy this template. But I feel like
this is still that like beachy adventure vibe, but it's more
bold, right. And so I think that's also part of like, where
I get stuck is how something looks because I just love like
interior design and how something feels like that's been
part of my block too. And like, what's funny is like, behind me
is like the water theme. But like my true like office is
actually like really bright, bright and colorful. And in
fact, I have like prophetic art like down here on the ground
that behind me that is sitting because I haven't wanted to put
it behind me yet. Um, I think
I know it should be. Um, and my new business cards for like my
ministry are like bright paint. That's cool. Like
a lot to do that. Okay, I think
so like,
Keith, who's Macy's dad, who we work with, he's one of our our
mentors, spiritual father would say like, is like his whole
funnel is a video to form an application. So like, it's, it's
a, it's a really nice video. But that's his whole like, I think
I mean, maybe it's, he has other programs, but like to do that,
what we're talking about, like hire ticket 25k plus program
stuff, it's, it's, it's very simple, actually, like, you
could, the way I would do it is have some sort of training that
you train, ideally, like who that person is, and kind of in
that it's a 10 to 15 minute 20 minute thing. They call it a VSL
video sales ladder, which is kind of going through like, hey,
here's the here's the problem. Here's like the three keys to
like launch your multiple six figure, female, like woman,
whatever, go dream big. Here's how you dream big with with God
and build a six figure or seven figure business or whatever. And
you just like 1015 minutes, just tons of content at the end,
you're like, if you're interested in working with me,
there's a button below you can apply. They basically like
pitching themselves to you of like, hey, yes, this is and you
think through the questions you want for that, to kind of help
identify them, hey, where you at in your revenue now, is most
people are going to come through like, yeah, I got this idea one
day, I want to do this thing. Okay, but like, maybe and maybe
some people do have an idea they are, and maybe it's getting
specific, like maybe it is leaving a corporate job, kind of
take your trajectory. Maybe they have some savings, maybe they're
not actually trying to do this on the cheap, like they're not.
And that's the thing is don't a lot of our stuff is like
bootstrapped, like go figure out anything cheap. If you have some
capital, you can't don't, you know, you want to use it very
wisely, because it goes fast. From other business stuff we've
done, like it goes fast. But if you if you if you can hire like
if the design thing for you is so important, like for a few
$1,000 that you could just pay someone to make not just design,
but make you design it and then build it. So you don't have to
get into Squarespace and do the thing. And it could be exactly
what you want. And every time you click on it, you're like,
this is this is my thing. It's exactly it. I too am very
obsessed with the design. And I only get excited about things
once I see this design, like once it comes in, I see the
aesthetic, then I'm like, okay, now it's now I can like send
people to this. So it may be that it may be like whatever
that thing is, that's kind of blocking you or finding it could
be a template. I don't think it's like a template thing. Like
those are just tactical things. Because like, some of these
pages, I think same thing with with pagers like master's mind.
It's just video sales letter for one thing and then over into
application. It's not a long giant page. It's like really is
a video with a button and like two paragraphs of text. It's
very simple. And then it goes straight to the form. And then
you can review the forms and just either reply to them and be
like, hey, this doesn't look like a good fit for now,
whatever. Or here's the link to jump on a 30 minute call or you
do a free one hour consultant call. That's actually what Keith
does is he does a free he kind of does like a session with you
for free, at least it did with us. That's how it worked. And
then you're like, this is exactly what you need. And
there's no way you're gonna get like, any kind of like, it's
you'll get some breakthrough, but you know, you want to kind
of help them in that one hour or something. So anyway, I don't
I'm just throwing out a bunch of ideas. But I think
Um, I think I would definitely, I definitely would dream, I think, think bigger, um, about
it.
So I don't know.
It helps.
No, this is, I feel like, thank you for taking the time.
I mean, I feel like I just been stuck the last month in, in not moving forward.
And I'd been trying to figure out like what it is and pressing into God and just like,
why is this not like, why is, why is this not working or like, what's the block in front
of me?
And in some ways I think to your point, like I've been trying to start like so far at the
beginning with this like year long, like growth strategy versus, you know, more of,
I think my superpower is in the, you know, the, the high, like the farther along in the
process.
So just to start there.
Definitely.
Um, and yeah, I think there are, there's this, there's a big world of coaching things that
people have charged tons of money for and people pay for, and we're going to deliver
only be delivering 10% of what you're going to be delivering, like as far as breakthrough
and all that.
So I just, um, I think the, I think the, what's in front of you now, the four week thing and
stuff like just go, um, essentially just to, to, uh, go through that and keep, keep building,
like keep, cause that's a great way to just get in front of a lot of people.
It's sort of the exposure, but you can do just the four week course.
And then just one of the things is like, Hey, we have this one program that's available,
um, to work on, uh, for now you don't have to have like a bunch of things for now.
It could just be like the two nine, seven and here's 25 or something like, um, it can
be that question before we're done.
So as you're doing it and my thought for the four week is that it's evergreen.
So I've already recorded, I'm going to rerecord it one more time, but the content's all done.
How often are you doing the free workshop to get people into the four week?
So is it like every four weeks I'm doing a week at like the last four, or is it like
every two weeks, like to just kind of get this going quicker?
Like what's the, I don't want to overmark, you know, over advertise, but at the same
time, like what is it once a month, twice a month, every week I'm doing the free to
get people in the four week.
Um, I think the, you want to just be careful cause if you do, if it's weekly, then like
why, why join the thing?
Like there needs to be something a little bit less frequent than what they're going
to get from you in the program.
No, I mean, it's like if I'm advertising, it's a once a week, it's a one hour event,
like our 90 minute event, but I'm saying how often do I market that I have the one
hour event?
Yeah.
Maybe, well, you can, you can't really market too much.
I think where, where it would, so you can talk about it all the time.
We're running ads like 24 seven, um, for tribe to just get, just get in front of
people.
Um, what you can do is then just think about like limit your, your availability
or your time.
I think once a month, you know, or twice a month at the most would be how you would
promote that.
Um, if you're constantly like building email lists, building stuff, and then you
say, okay, now I've got another event, sign up.
It's happening tomorrow.
Those could be the free events and you can have something where for the people, if
someone's busy and they're already moving and they really are kind of doing the
things you want, but they just need to go further.
You can have things in that free training, which you drop as like, Hey, so like,
yeah.
And our, in our 25 K program, as we do this, this, this, like it doesn't, you
have to like dive into it deep on the details and then you can just, cause
people will just DM you.
They'll just be like, Hey, you had something else like, just, I don't need
the, I don't need that.
Like, just get me the thing.
Um, and so in the emails and stuff, this was a trick.
I think some, I think it's pager or someone shared, but like on every email,
there was something that was just like, Hey, if you're ready just to, to skip the
line and just work with me, like, here's the link to app apply or go right to the,
um, to that.
Uh, so yeah, I think, um.
I would, you're going to put a lot of effort into selling a bunch of two, nine,
seven, you know, things where if you go sell one 10 K or one 15, it's just, it's
so hard to go make up that you have to go sell so many essentially to change, to
change that.
Or do I not like, do I just do an eight week launch your dream business?
And then I upgrade to the mastermind, which is a 12, um, month one.
Yeah.
And, and your goal is really to help women.
I like my big hairy audacious goal is to help a million women birth their dreams.
Like that is the goal God gave me.
And to eventually create a private equity company that invests money back into
these dreams and becomes a capital partner in equity.
Um,
Um, to fund dreams.
Like I want to not only launch, I want to help grow them and
then I want to invest in that.
Like that's the biggest.
I mean, do you, is the fight, cause is this financial side of it interesting
to you from a service standpoint?
I mean, I'm a CFO, like, yes and no, I hate accounting, but I'm good at it.
Like I have a fun, you know, like I hate accounting and I'm bad at it, but you
know, um, no, I just want to see women prosper personally and in their purpose,
but also financially, like I want them to like make money, like not just I'm
doing my dream, but I can't pay my bills.
Like, I don't know.
Yeah.
And I think the problem that that's the only thing with the two nine seven is
you, you kind of want to just give something for free right to the
application.
That's what is to work with me.
If, as you think about a product, I'm not like, it's easy.
It's, it's, it's one way to do it.
I'm not saying you should do this.
It's what we did, but I don't know if that's recommended is
we blended it with a service.
Um, and a lot of like enterprise software things, they just have this
like blend of service in there as well.
It's very limited.
It's very controlled, but like at our 10 K a month program, they get a week's
worth of develop custom development from like 20 hours for our developers to sit
and make something for that company each month.
Um, so we worked in certain things into that.
It just was easier because you can go to a business and instead of just being
in a coaching program, they have a little bit extra, it's it's done.
Oh, sorry.
It's done with you, not done for you.
And you can, so think of like the DIY, like do it yourself, which is kind of
the two nine seven and the, all the other things there's done with you.
Like I'm really in it with you more calls.
Like even what we're doing now, we're like really digging deep in the
strategy and like execution.
And then there's just total done for you.
Like you're going to run this whole thing for them and they
just pay you, you know, to do that.
So you can kind of think,
well, that's the end goal is to like have a shared service company.
That if they need to hire my accountant, they need to hire my branding person.
They need to hire my marketing person.
They need to hire my accountant.
They need to hire my legal.
Like, I want to be able to have something where women don't have to go
out and hire their own people.
Like they can use for a monthly fee or a portion like ad hoc.
I mean, you could sell that this afternoon, like this afternoon, because
like, so if you labeled it as like fractional CFO or fractional something
piece, if it's the CFO, if it's some other parts of the business that
like, I just had clients where I've done their branding and their website.
Um, and like vision, mission, vision statements.
Like those are my current clients have been website design, branding.
And then like, not enough money.
Yeah.
I already knew that, but like, what did you charge?
Um, I charged two grand for one person for an amazing website and
three grand for another, my sister, my sister's doing, she's
like doing a creative agents.
I just, we just helped her with this.
And she, I have, I think I have to go to a demo in a second.
I know Macy's probably like, and she's like messaging me, but this is great.
I love the conversation.
Um, she was doing like two, three, 4k websites and she's working for schools
now, and then they had this consultant come in to like, did one presentation,
one PowerPoint and like, here's how, here's your strategy for the year.
And he charged like 30 K, you know, thing.
And she was just like, what?
Like I'm doing all this work to do the, you know, she was going and shooting
pictures at the school, like doing all this stuff for them anyway.
So she's come up with a new product, which is like much more expensive,
but that's the thing with agency stuff.
And we did that for a long time and we did do the 30 and 50 K websites.
And I like never want to do websites again.
We got out of that like four or five years ago, but it is like, you can do
the same exact thing for a lot more.
And that's where I think if you can position out, if you love doing websites
and you have a great designer and you can outsource that, you can make a 30 K
package, someone's going to get this thing from you and they're going to get
consulting from you, all the things you're talking about, the dream, all the
things that's in your heart to do the kingdom, like women, like you're going
to help coach them and you can throw in like, Hey, we're going to do a rebrand
of your site and you just find some, find a great designer.
Uh, we have a bunch of developers that can just do the work for you and make
it look awesome for you and you pay them three K or whatever.
Um, if you want to bundle that in.
So I kind of would like, I think of a price point and then just build in as
much stuff you can, um, into that, uh, value for that.
So we could, we could chat through that on Tuesday as well.
Okay.
Awesome.
No, I really appreciate the time.
I think that's where I've been.
Yeah.
I think I get stuck trying to launch the social media and the free community.
And it.
That's so much time, but it's not making any money.
100% and that's why I would just, I would take all your efforts into the,
just, just do the other way around.
Like, um, cause it's actually a lot less effort.
You can have, when you pick up the program, you're like,
I'm going to do this 30 K thing.
There's probably people you could text or email right now.
Like, Hey, I'm doing something new.
I wanted to run something by you.
Can I, do you mind hopping on a 20 minute call?
You don't even have to have a landing page.
Just like, Hey, I'm doing this.
You know, I've got these results.
I'm thinking of this.
I'd love to help women like this, this, this, blah, blah, blah.
Just on the calls.
Like, that's something you'd be interested in.
Like, Oh my gosh, like, yeah, we've been needing a this, this,
this, or no, this is good.
And then you did night tweak the offer and go talk to someone else.
And now if you need help getting new leads like that, that's where you can
have, it adds to a single funnel, to a single video, to the applications.
You just have that constant stream of people lining up to talk to you.
Um, that would be an easy, and that's way, way easier than all.
You don't have to, you don't have to post one thing on social
media to do all of that.
So, yeah, I make a lot more money.
Yeah.
Because other thing is thinking about it, like Pedro always talks about the
profit center and then there's the ministry side, like you need to have
something that generates the money for us.
It's our web, it's our app development side of our business.
Um, this is really our heart and our vision.
We love all these things, but we, we can't go full time on tribe pioneers
and I don't need to, like, that's the beauty of it.
Like I don't have any pressure to make any money from tribe pioneers this year.
Um, I hope we'd grow bigger.
I hope we'll help more people, but like we're covered on our,
in our app development side.
So there could be a two sides to it, um, as well.
Um, so anyway, that's it.
Thank you.
We'll talk more Tuesday.
Okay.
Sounds good.
Yeah.
I'm flying tomorrow to go launch my mom's, um, her book just got
published and we're having a big event.
So I'm speaking at her event, um, and I'm helping her.
So I'm excited.
Awesome.
Well, good luck.
Have a great trip.
Thanks.
All right.