It's good to see everybody today as you can see I am still not at home and still have
my wonderful corded earbuds which they don't sound awesome so that I have to do this otherwise
you're gonna hear me like this and Alex over here my wonderful friend Alex who I will introduce
has this beautiful setup pro setup because he loves all the good sounds so listen if
you saw what it looks like behind the scenes I'm in my living room I've got laundry over
here I got a playpen over here I got a baby carrier over here like just looks looks can
be deceiving don't let it fool you I thought maybe you were in your office I don't you're
at home no I'm at home I yeah okay all right all right so fine whatever okay so I told
him I'm a little bit jealous he's making me look really bad right now I'm gonna take
a picture and put it in the chat okay hi everyone it's good to see everybody let us know where
you're tuning in from so today we have with us special guests and my good friend Alex
Morales he and his wife Sarah and they're four right it's four now it's it's four now
four beautiful children live in the Austin area in Texas and so I'm just so thankful
that he's gonna be on with us today he's he's a called an office prophet called to the office
and so we're gonna have a little bit of a chat and so I love these kinds of calls because
I love to showcase what what prophets can look like because we all we're all on a different
journey and if you can identify with you know oh that's what an office prophet looks
like to this person then maybe it'll help you just a little bit on your journey and
embrace the assignment that's on your life so this is why I love doing that so Alex I
yeah a little bit but you want to go ahead and you know just intro yourself a little
bit yeah so yeah so like Marguerite said I'm Alex and I I do a number of different things
in ministry right so I've been in vocational ministry for almost 30 years I've been by
vocational I've been a pastor I was a senior pastor you know working as a prophet I work
with prophetic company and Dan McCollum and Bethany Hicks as a master trainer in our certification
program I work with George and Banoff in the global school global celebration school of
supernatural and do some travel with him and then my wife and I we we pastor locally and
do ministry as worship leaders and worship worshipers and so yeah it's just been it's
been great and like Marguerite said we've got four kids so we've got a 15 year old we
have a 12 year old we have a 9 year old and a 10 month old yes that was that was all Jesus
he was he was not a surprise he was a complete shock but he was definitely the missing piece
in our family so Zion's actually upstairs taking a nap wow yeah yeah life's life's fun
in my household right now I can't even imagine like that would be so interesting oh it is
yeah that would be like me having a kid right now as well listen I'm their baby I turned
I turned 47 in January and so he was born when I was 46 I was that's not what I thought
was gonna happen when I was in my upper 40s but yeah it's it's been great well I'm so
glad I'm so glad to hear that it's been great yeah yeah so there's people on here you know
that are saying bless you oh my amazing blessing and then Jerry says she Jerry are you a lady or
a man I can't tell from just the name so sorry but says been there completely get it yeah yeah
I got one I got one getting ready to drive and one who's still in diapers it's like it's yeah
it's crazy that's that's got to be so bizarre it is it is I'm here's what I'm honestly looking
forward to when Zion that's his name right when Zion is you know old enough to start going to the
movies and stuff I can probably get a senior discount and a student discount at the same
time so that'll save me some money's money on both sides yeah you know go to Denny's get a
kids meal and a senior meal at the same time that's gonna be fantastic yeah it's gonna be
great as you can see Alex has a great outlook on life yes yes he's very positive thank you Jesus
yes we need more happy prophets around
Right?
We do, we do need more happy prophets.
You guys actually just had a prophetic summit in Texas
this past weekend.
And I know that there's some people that are on here
that are gonna watch the replay
that were at that prophetic summit.
So they have seen you just a smidgen.
Just a bit.
I'd love to talk about your prophet journey
just a little bit.
Yeah, go for it.
You know, I know some of us have unusual things happen,
unusual circumstances, but other times, you know,
we just wanna know what it's like.
So when did you first begin to have an inkling
that you were a prophet?
Like, how did that happen to you?
Oh, I love that question.
So to answer that,
I actually gotta give you some history and background.
So I grew up in church.
I've been in church since I was two years old.
My dad got saved when I was two.
But we grew up cessationist.
We grew up complete cessationists.
Like, think John MacArthur, like, strange fire guys.
Like, that was us growing up.
Went off to college.
I had a full scholarship.
I was pre-med to University of Miami.
And during that time, I was involved in my local church.
It was a Southern Baptist church.
And I felt a calling into pastoral ministry.
So I gave up my scholarship,
got my degree in theology and biblical studies,
and did everything.
So I've been a pastor since I was 18.
At 18, they made me their youth pastor.
By the time I was 26,
I was a senior pastor of my own church.
Wow.
It was in that season that I had an experience with God
that I didn't really have a theological grid for.
And it was the first time I ever heard his audible voice.
And the story is way longer.
And for the sake of time, I won't get into it.
But I found myself one morning at my church in prayer.
It was like 5 a.m.
I was all alone.
I had called a prayer gathering
just to really pray for our church
because we were in some massive transition.
And for a month straight,
I was the only one who would show up.
And I was ready to quit, ready to give up,
ready to walk away from everything.
And I remember I'm kneeling down at the altar area
of this Southern Baptist church in Miami, Florida.
And I prayed the most honest, sincere prayer
I could ever pray.
And it's, God, I don't know what to do.
And unless you show me you're real, I quit.
Wow.
And I heard his audible voice.
Man.
And what he said to me was this.
He said, Alex, you know my word.
But you don't know my power.
And I'm gonna teach you what it means to operate in both.
And for the next two and a half hours,
I was in a third heaven encounter I didn't have a grid for.
And in that encounter,
I won't get into all of the encounter,
but the Lord began to show me.
Jesus started to show me my destiny.
And he started to show me that I was called to be a prophet.
And because I didn't have a grid for all of that,
I sort of shelved that part.
But I knew that what I experienced was real.
And it just made me hungry for kingdom.
It made me hungry for revival.
It made me hungry to know the Holy Spirit.
It made me hungry to see a manifestation of word and power.
And it set me on this pathway.
It set me on this journey.
We'll flash forward a number of years.
It was probably about 12 years ago then.
So that was around 20 years ago, 12 years ago,
my wife and I, we move out to Austin,
hungry, still pretty new in what we'd call revival culture
or kingdom mindedness.
And we moved out here based off of a dream the Lord gave me.
And it was a, he brought me to Austin in the dream.
I had never been here before.
And so we're here for several months.
And we're walking around the city.
And it was probably at this point,
the third time I had heard his audible voice.
And we're walking around Austin, it's our anniversary.
And just getting to know the place.
And I hear the Lord say,
Alex, I want you to begin a prophesy over the city
because I called you to be a prophet.
And that was the first time in probably eight years
that I really remembered that part of the encounter
that I had had.
And I'm like, okay, what does this mean?
And so I'm feeling this internal call
and I just started prophesying,
whatever, just God, what do you want to say over the city?
And as we're walking around doing the tourist thing
and I'm hearing the Lord's voice,
I'm hearing the Lord's voice.
in our new town.
And I'm like, okay, what does this mean?
I'm just releasing what I'm hearing.
And I'm like, okay, what does this mean?
About a year, two years later,
And I'm like, okay, what does this mean?
I am maybe three in that timeframe.
It's our anniversary again.
And it was February 22nd.
And I had this dream and in the dream,
I'm walking down this road and I see this,
I see what looked like a massive bird
walking along the road.
He steps over what I would describe as a blanket
because that was the language I had then.
He stops, turns around, looks at me
and has the face of a man and he says,
I want you to pick this up, wear it and walk in it.
And I had that dream three times over the next six months.
The interesting thing was the day that I had that dream
was actually the day that they were burying Bob Jones.
He had passed that February 14th.
And so I didn't have much of a grid for it,
for the dream or what it meant.
Had it three times over six months.
A year later, my wife and I are in Dallas leading worship
at a young adults conference at a church
and Bobby Conner was the main speaker.
And getting to interact with Bobby and just doing stuff.
One day we're sitting at lunch and he starts,
if you've ever been around Bobby Conner,
he's got stories, he's gonna talk and it's amazing.
And he looks at me and he says, son, you're so hungry.
And we're at lunch and I'm looking at the menu.
I'm like, yes, sir, yeah.
He goes, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Start asking your questions.
And so I just start asking questions
for the next two and a half hours.
I'm asking him question after question.
Bobby doesn't really always answer.
He'll go off on a tangent,
but in the tangent is the answer to your question.
And through that, it got to this thing on dreams.
And I said, hey, I've got this dream.
I'd love to know what it means.
And he said, go ahead, tell me your dream.
Now, when I get comfortable around people,
I lose control of my tongue a little bit.
And so I said, I'm sitting here,
I've got two, at that point, I only had two kids.
Sarah was pregnant with our daughter, our third.
And so this is probably around 10 years ago now.
And I said to Bobby, I said, well, you're the prophet,
tell me my dream.
And she kicks me under the table.
She's like, oh my God,
I can't believe how disrespectful you are.
And Bobby took it in stride.
And he looked at me and he said, son,
I need you to tell me the dream.
And I said, okay.
There was something about the way he said that to me.
And so I tell him the dream that I just shared with you.
And he says, I have to tell you
about the first time I meet Bob Jones.
Like, no.
Now, I had met Bobby several times before
because of my relationship with Georgian.
And so I'm rewinding years of encounters with Bobby.
And I'm just, I'm like, no.
And he said, well, I had this dream.
And as I'm walking, I'm in this dream
and I'm walking down this road and I see this bird
and he's walking along the road
and he steps over a mantle.
Turns around, looks and it's the face of Bob Jones.
And Bob Jones says, I want you to pick this up
and I want you to wear it
because you're called to be a prophet
and you're gonna walk in the office of the prophet.
And he looks at me, he goes,
son, you had the same dream I had.
And the Lord has called you to the office of the prophet.
And the moment that you're ready to walk in it,
you'll pick up that mantle and you'll wear it.
You're just staring at the mantle.
The Lord's telling you to pick it up and walk in it.
And it freaked me out.
I was like, oh my gosh, like, okay.
And so two days went by, we're at this conference
and on the third, the final night,
I'm in the green room with Bobby and my wife
and a couple of others.
And I said, Bobby, I wanna walk in that.
I just don't know how, I don't know what that means.
And he says, well, that mantle is the same one
that I carry, it's the same one that Bob Jones carried.
I'm gonna lay hands on you
and release an impartation of it so you'll know.
And boom, I mean, it just hit me.
And for the next three weeks,
I was having encounters and all sorts of stuff.
I was just, it was just so much.
I prayed, I was like, God,
I don't know what to do with this.
We had come back from that.
The only other people who knew anything
about that experience was my senior leaders at the time.
I shared it with them immediately,
but because I didn't.
have any idea how to steward it, what it meant.
I was like, I'm looking for somebody to train me
and fathers and mothers and all this.
So I prayed and I said, God, I need you to shut this off
until somebody is able to come around me.
So a year later, it's probably eight years ago now,
Dan McCollum comes through town.
We had already built a relationship with him as a church
and he and Richard are traveling,
doing some stuff locally.
And Richard was a senior leader at the time
and he's such a papa and so proud
and he's bragging on all of the staff and he gets to me
and he shares with Dano my experience with Bobby Connor.
That evening, we're having a meeting at the church
and Dano comes running up to me.
And if you know Dano, he doesn't run to anybody.
No, he makes a beeline, he's running to me.
And he says, Richard told me about Bobby,
I need to talk to you.
And I'm like, sure, yeah, let's talk.
And he's like, I know Bobby, he doesn't do that.
He doesn't do that with anybody.
You need mentors and you need fathers in your life.
And I said, would you be that?
He goes, no, but I'm gonna invite you to walk with me.
And I said, wherever you go, I'll follow.
And it's been eight years and I just been,
like a dog on a bone, man.
I hitched my wagon there and I said, all right,
I'm gonna learn and eat up everything I can do.
About a year later, I'm out in Vacaville,
less than a year later, I'm out in Vacaville
for the first time for School of Prophetic Training
that Dano hosts and Prophetic Company hosts.
And I remember sitting, going to lunch in the,
it was in the hangar, Margaret.
It was in the hangar and I'm going to lunch
and I'm in line and Dano goes, hey, where are you sitting?
And I said, oh, I'm gonna sit with these.
He goes, no, you're not, you're sitting with me.
I said, oh, okay, I guess I'm sitting with you.
And so walk over to the table and I think,
actually Margaret, you may have been sitting at that table.
Probably, I didn't meet you, meet you
until the following year though, so.
Of other people and he says, hey, this is Alex.
He's a friend of mine, he's a prophet in Texas, right, Alex?
And I was like, yes, and that was it.
I was sort of thrown in the deep end, honestly.
And like I said, hitch my wagon there
and I haven't looked back since.
So probably a lot longer of a story,
but that was my journey and just started going,
okay, what does it look like to walk in this office?
What does it look like to raise up
and equip another generation of prophets?
Because that's part of what I feel called to do.
Margaret actually gave me a word years ago.
She said, you're a prophet to the prophets.
And Dano helped me unpack that a little bit.
And it's not only that I'm a prophet to prophets
and prophesy to prophets and work with other prophets,
but it's about identifying and raising up
the next generation of prophets
and raising them from call to office.
And so that's my journey, really.
Wow.
That's quite the journey.
Yeah, I don't think you've ever heard the whole story.
No, I didn't hear about that, Dream.
Yeah.
I didn't hear about your encounter
with Bobby Conner or Dano running.
I think I would have remembered Dano running.
Yes, absolutely.
I love this story.
It's so wild, you know,
and we have so many people in here that are, you know,
mystics and have wild God encounters.
And then we also have people that are just entering
into this new space of this,
or they've had God encounters and can't figure out,
you know, are other people having experiences like me?
Am I crazy?
So this is really great to hear.
You know, we've all heard Chris's story
about Jesus walking into the bathroom
and having that encounter.
Now, so this was, you know,
a short version of your journey, obviously.
What would you say were some really practical things
that you learned, you know,
just walking alongside Dano and, you know,
discovering your, what it looks like
to walk in the office of prophet.
So one of the first things I learned was to,
and I'm actually going to quote Hamilton, the play, right?
Aaron Burr, talk less, smile more.
That was the first thing I actually learned, you know,
you know, I, because I grew up the way that I did
with such a solid Bible background.
And again, I'll go back to the word.
the Lord spoke to me the first time I heard his audible voice,
you know, my word, but you don't know my power. Um, you know,
I've got the degrees, I've got the certifications,
I've got all the stuff on the wall.
So there was a lot of stuff I thought I knew.
And because I thought I knew stuff, I would just talk. Right. Um,
and so the first thing I learned was always be a student,
always be learning,
always be hungry to learn more than you
share or impart. I call it now.
It's the art of being the quietest man in the room.
Because if you're always talking, you're always, Oh yeah,
the Lord showed me this and the Lord showed me that. No. Yeah.
You become white noise.
But if you learn to be the quietest person in the room and then,
and then speak what you release and what you say has more power,
it has more authority. Um, and people will listen.
And so that was one of the first things I learned was be quiet, learn,
listen, um, and just continue to continue to
steward your personal relationship with the Lord. Wow.
Your time will come. You know, I think the second thing, uh,
I learned was, um,
and this is a direct quote from Dano was, uh,
do you want to be right? Or do you want to see the outcome?
And I think one of the things that, because of how I am wired,
I, I am a perceiver knower as my primary receptor.
I don't know how I know the things that I know. I just know that I know.
Um, and, um,
I'm a bit of a mystic in the sense of dreams and encounters in that way.
Um, and so I often see things
before it happens, like sometimes days, sometimes months,
sometimes years before it happens, but because it seems so real to me, I,
I'm also a builder and I'm going to run and try to build it and get it to happen
and go. And, you know,
I would often sit in our pastoral staff meetings and I'd say something,
I'd say, Hey, this is what the Lord is saying.
This is what we need to do. And it would be years before,
before anyone took any action on it. And when they finally did,
I'd be so frustrated. I'm like, I told you this three years ago,
I've been saying this, I've been, I've been ringing this bell for months.
Like this guy walks in off the street and he says something and all of a sudden
it's like, Oh my God, it's the first time you ever heard it.
And I get so frustrated and Dano Dano challenged me. He's like, Alex,
do you want to be right? Or do you want to see the outcome? Wow. And I said,
honestly, I want both because I'm an, I'm a high D I'm an eight personality,
you know, on the enneagram. Like I want both. I said, but,
but the reality is I want to see, I want to see the outcome.
I want to see it happen. And he said, okay, so you just keep going for that.
Don't worry about being right. Don't worry about the, I told you so. And that,
that, that partnered with learning to be just quiet and still,
and learning when to release a word, learning when to hold a word.
Those, those are probably the two biggest things, lessons I've learned.
Mm. Yeah. I think I love your story about like,
you know, D just sharing, knowing things outside of time.
Right. And Dano talks about, this is called living anachronistically,
that we live outside of time. And so we see outside of time and that can be so
hard. I love what, you know,
Deb Crone has done that same kind of experience.
And one of the things that she actually talks about,
which has stuck with me the most is like, you're like a UPS delivery person.
You know, you, you just deliver the package, but you don't look for,
you don't wait for them to open up the package. You don't say,
how was the delivery? You know, can you unwrap it a little bit faster?
What do you think of the product? You know? No, that's, that's not your job.
It's just to deliver the package and, you know,
obviously how the package is delivered, it matters. But, you know, when we're,
when we're seeing outside of time and, you know,
I think it's really important that we steward, how do,
you know, steward the timeline of when,
when we're seeing things, when we're picking up on stuff,
like is it three years out? Is it two years out?
Like some of this is training for, for us when we, when that happens.
And so I love that so much. And I love,
I love the advice that Dano gave you.
And it's, and it's learning sometimes you're just training, right?
And so I've, I've become an avid note taker and journaler,
so to speak, because
because if, if I don't
Um, if I don't, then I can get frustrated.
And so what I do is if I don't have an assignment on something, uh, I just
start taking notes and track it for myself because I know that I'm training.
I'm building up my accuracy.
I'm building up things.
So I think this is, will be the first time I share this anywhere.
Um, but I'll give you a real practical for instance.
And, um, so I've got a note in, in my phone that is dated February 22nd.
Probably can't see that.
Okay.
But it's dated February 22nd.
Um, and I had a dream and in that dream, uh, I dreamt Pope Francis will die in
around the beginning of Easter and by Pentecost, we'll have a new Pope.
Right.
Wow.
If I hadn't built up a history in accuracy and even learning how to hold
onto something, right.
Um, man, the temptation to jump on Facebook and put this out there, right.
The temptation to start telling everybody I know, and the Lord was like, uh, no,
I'm revealing my secrets to my friends.
Um, can I trust you to keep my secrets?
Yeah.
So I, I, I took a note, made sure it was dated.
I emailed it to myself.
So there's an official timestamp on it.
Yeah.
Right.
And shared it with my wife, Sarah, and that was it.
Um, and I'm still waiting to see how this word plays out.
Right.
Because there were some other things that I saw happening with the new Pope.
And so just sitting around going, okay, conclave starts this Tuesday and I'm
waiting to see, right, because I know that I'm training, I'm training in an
area that I'm called to reign in.
And so, you know, um, I think that's a huge part of that.
I do.
I saw a question pop up in the chat.
Can we, can we, hold, hold, hold, please.
While I put on my glasses.
Oh my gosh.
You know, I'm officially at the age, let me just get this out here.
I'm officially at the age where I got to put these on to read, take them off to
see, and these are prescriptions y'all like this, it's not like these are readers
or anything like that.
And it's, it's just driving me nuts.
So I'm, I'm putting that out there.
I'm praying for healing.
Um, for, so I don't have to do that, but there was a question about picking up
and, um, I'm, I'm re looking for it in the chat.
Um, it says, he says it's from does, does one in the office of the prophet
normally pick up someone else's man?
So I think this is huge because I will often get people with well meaning
hearts and intentions say, Hey, can you impart your mantle to me?
And my answer is no.
Because I'm still using it.
I I'm still wearing it.
I'm still learning how, how to wear it.
Right.
I still like, uh, my, my call and assignment isn't up yet.
Right.
Yeah.
It's the reason why, uh, the safest person to sit on, on a long distance
airplane ride is me because I'm not done.
Right.
I like, I, I, I flew to Florida last a couple of weeks ago.
My mom was recovering from surgery.
So I went out to take care of her and help out lady next to
me is bugging on this flight.
Like we hit, we hit some turbulence and it was, it was pretty jarring.
And she's like, Oh my gosh, you're so calm.
You know, I'm like, Hey, listen, you don't got to worry about
this plane ain't going nowhere.
And she's like, why not?
I was like, cause I'm on it.
And she's like, what does that mean?
I said, I know what I'm called to.
I know what God, God's plans for my life are, and I haven't completed them yet.
And I'm not going anywhere until they're done.
And so you're probably in the safest spot.
You can be, she looked at me.
It was like, I don't know.
She thought I was nuts or she was just assured, but
she calmed down really quickly.
Um, but back to the mantle thing, right?
You don't always pick up someone else's mantle, especially
if they're still wearing it.
Right.
So, so the, the, the thing with Bobby and the, the thing with Bob Jones, when Bobby
says, Hey, you're called to wear the same mantle that both I carry and Bob Jones
carried, it wasn't the one that they were wearing.
It's the same as if though, Hey, I've got that same shirt, right?
Oh, I have that same exact jacket, right?
However, it's going to be tailored different.
because it'll be designed to fit me, right?
If I took this over shirt off
and gave it to one of you to wear,
it might look like a boat cover to you
because I'm a big guy, right?
It's not tailored for you, it's meant for me.
But if you went, I guess this is Target, I don't know.
If you went and picked up one from Target,
it would be for you to wear, but it's the same.
Does that make sense?
Now, there are times where there are those generals
that have passed and they laid down their mantle, right?
Or their mantle is laid down.
I believe those you can pick up, right?
But even then the Lord does something supernaturally
to tailor it to you, okay?
Because you're going to wear it differently.
You're gonna walk in it differently.
It's gonna rest on you differently.
Yes, Elijah goes up in the whirlwind, right?
And Elisha sees it and picks up the mantle and puts it on.
But I guarantee you, it looked completely different
on Elisha than it did on Elijah.
Elisha used it and operated in it
completely different than Elijah.
Elisha does twice as many recorded miracles
in the Old Testament than Elijah does with the same mantle.
So it looks differently.
So, you know, especially going to all of these conferences
and these events, man, I tell you,
you got people who are mantle junkies.
Oh, I want it.
You can't have mine, but I can give you an impartation
of the grace that this gives me, right?
And that's what Bobby was doing with me,
is, hey, it might be the same mantle.
This is for you, but I'm going to release an impartation
of the grace that I carry from my mantle.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, that's a great answer.
I love that so much.
Wow, there's just wisdom.
You know, I really feel the presence of the Lord
as you're speaking.
You know, there's just really wisdom being imparted
into people as they're figuring
this whole mantle thing out.
And I feel like that is such a practical answer.
Well, of course you can't have my jacket or my mantle.
Now it's mine, but here's where you can get one, you know?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I think that another question would be is like,
some people in here are so new to the prophetic
and just, you know, trying to figure out, you know,
whether or not they're called to be a prophet.
Obviously they're resonating with something
because, you know, Chris is in here, I'm in here,
Peter's in here, got a bunch of prophets in here.
What would you say to them in just pursuing
their knowledge of, am I called to be a prophet?
I would first begin to look at, well, what is a prophet?
Right here, let's make this official, like Bible time.
I'm gonna scroll, you know, for years as a pastor,
I'll turn in your Bibles too, I got that language out.
If you have your Bible app, scroll to Ephesians chapter four.
Right?
Okay.
Let's scroll to Ephesians chapter four for a second, right?
Verse 11, and he himself, who's this?
It's Christ Jesus, right?
And he himself gave some as apostles, some as prophets,
and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers.
And we love that verse, especially as people
who are hungry for a prophetic move
and for, I'll use the language of office,
even though I personally no longer use
the language of office.
I use the language of office simply because
that's what most people recognize.
Right.
Nowhere here in scripture do we see that it's an office.
Right?
It is a grace.
It is an ascension gift.
And he himself gave gifts.
What are the gifts?
The gifts are actually the people, right?
So apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, teachers.
So we look at this and we're like, yes, I want that.
I wanna, I want that gift.
I wanna be that.
Well, listen, first off, it is not a position you fill.
It is who you are.
Yeah.
It is an identity you carry.
If you want to be a prophet because it's a position you fill
you can drop the class right now.
And I hope you stay through, right?
I don't want to get in trouble for having people drop out.
But if you are only about, oh, that's a respected position, I would begin to question your internal
call.
I would begin to really have some serious dialogue with the Lord.
Because it's not easy, right?
It's not a journey that is to be taken lightly.
There is a pressing, there is a crushing, there is, listen, you know, we can glam this
up all we want.
Oh, it looks great.
Look, man, you get to talk to so many people.
You stand on this platform, and you know, you're doing stuff with Dan O'Alex, you're
doing stuff with Georgian, and you know, it has never been about a platform or a microphone
for me.
Right?
Never.
Listen, I got words for days.
I can talk to people, I can talk to my kids, I can talk to the lady down the street.
If it's about talking and being heard, trust me, I can do that.
It's not about that for me, right?
Because there is a price to be paid.
And I don't know, Marguerite, I don't know that we often talk about the price that is
paid and that we have to pay.
And I'm not trying to downplay, or I'm not trying to be dramatic, okay?
But realistically, seriously, there is a price to pay.
There's rejection that happens.
There's betrayal that happens.
Absolutely.
Okay?
There is, there are hard seasons that you walk through that God, I don't believe God
is sending it your way and causing it, but it's part of the process of your formation.
Because when you find yourself in the cave like Elijah, and trust me, every prophet I
know has had a moment in the cave.
I came out of a cave a year and a half ago.
And there are days where I'm like, God, am I back in this cave?
Did I put myself back in this cave?
And I'm just trying to be very transparent with the process.
So the first thing is realize that you are the gift.
If you are called, you are the gift.
And so I would begin to say, okay, what's my motivation?
Why am I looking to be a prophet?
Or is this something that the Lord is actually calling me to?
The second part, right?
Verse 12, for the equipping of the saints for work of service, for the work of service,
to the building up of the body of Christ, until we all attain to the unity of faith,
of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature, which
belongs to the fullness of Christ.
That is your job description as a prophet, okay?
To equip the saints for works of service.
I believe every prophet should be equipping the saints in some way, shape, or form.
And not, this is my personal opinion, this may not reflect the values and the teachings
of emerging prophets, Bethel Church, but, right?
So that's my disclaimer.
But I believe it's more than just preaching equipping and modeling equipping.
It's stuff like what we're doing here.
The fact that y'all are sitting here, we've got 106 people on this call.
The fact that you're here, this is how we equip.
This is how we equip people.
And so it doesn't mean that every person called to the office of a prophet needs to have a
training school or a training program, but there are people that you are pouring into
to equip, right?
To the building up of the body of Christ.
That's the preaching aspect.
That's when you stand on the platform.
But the first thing is to be equipping.
Until what?
We all attain to the unity of faith.
If your prophetic ministry is not unifying the body, listen, my biggest, and I know my
prophet hat is on, because my biggest problem, do I want to say it that way?
Oh, I'm already there.
We'll clean this up afterward.
My biggest pet peeve, right?
the corporate big c church at times it's its lack of unity we talk about being the bride of christ
but we come off looking like the bride of frankenstein and behaving like the bride of chuckie
but it takes a prophetic voice to call the dry bones to come together and come back to life
i know that sounded harsh so hear my heart like i am full of joy i am happy
i am walking in grace and there is grace but listen church we need to do better
the church down the street is not my competition they're my brother and sister
right the ministry down the way that has 15 000 followers and i've got 300 i've got 20 i got
five they're not they're not my competition that's not what i'm striving to be i'm striving
to unite the body come on philippians 2 paul says if you have any encouragement from being united
with christ if any comfort from his love if any fellowship with the spirit if any tenderness or
compassion verse 3 then make my joy complete by being like-minded having being in one accord
being one in spirit and in purpose
that's the call that's what paul is saying here right so prophets you unify
so the unity of faith and of the knowledge of the son of god
i i tell you man there there's a generation coming that's hungry for god but they don't know
the word they don't have a knowledge of the son of god are we prophets
are we training equipping in a knowledge this is why i love love the encounter that i had
alex you know my word but you don't know my power i'm going to teach you what it means to operate in
both so prophet you have to have a foundation in the word okay because that is how we get to
the knowledge of the son of god in the beginning was the word and the word was with god and god was
the word john 1 1 john 1 14 and the word became flesh and made his dwelling among us how do you
get to know the son of god not just through divine revelation but it's right there in the pages of
scripture yeah or in the scroll of the app right yeah um until not to a mature man to the measure
of the stature which belongs to the fullness of christ listen we haven't gotten there we're helping
people in their journey to maturity until they have reached to the full measure of the stature
of the fullness of god and we know colossians says that in christ he has placed the fullness
of the godhead and in you and in christ you have been given fullness so we know it's there now it's
bringing it out so as you look at and this is a way long answer sorry marguerite but if you look
at if you look at that as the job description of a prophet
is that what i'm called to do is that what i'm feeling led to do if any of those is no
then re-look at what you're called to do right okay re-look at that and it's not it's not bad
it's okay why because paul says that we are many members of one body and each member has its
purpose listen the head has its purpose but the appendix has a purpose too and the reason why i
bring that one up is because this i once had a person say alex you know we're we're all part
of the body and you say we all have our own purpose i feel like the appendix no one knows
what the appendix does i said okay i can tell you one thing don't go bad because if you go bad
you're going to poison the whole body and then you need to be removed come on wow okay but i guarantee
you you've got a purpose and so so so if your purpose if your call is not to the office or
to to be that ascension gift and walk in the ascension grace of that it's okay you still have
usefulness purpose in the body okay um but that's where i would start to look at it and go okay
is this is this does this then resonate with me is this what i'm actually called to
yeah i think it i love your answer it was long but i went into teacher there i'm sorry it's all
good no no you got your preach on you got your yeah i love it and it was so good it was so full
of wisdom and just practicality of what we actually need to hear because you're right it is not glamorous
The profit life isn't sexy. It's none of that. It's none of the above like they're they're seriously is a price to pay and
we don't want to
Downplay the goodness of God, but at the same time we don't want to downplay the the cost that it actually
Takes to get to the place of the office
So you're called doesn't necessarily mean that you're in what you don't like to call the office of profit
Like have you emerged as a mature profit? You know, that is that is
you know in that place of
Stepping into your assignment. And so, um, I love that because I look back at my life and I think
Yeah, if I had to do that all over again, what I do it. Yes, because it's worth the cost but there was a cost
Yeah, you know, I know some of your journey, you know some of mine
it it's not pretty because you do begin to deal with you know, the self-doubt that
Intimidation the like you said the betrayal there, you know the accusation
There's a jacket. Yeah, all of that action and somebody asked in the chat, which is a great question. What is the cost?
I can't tell you what the cost is for you, right? I know what it cost me, right?
I know what it cost me. Yeah, right
There there were relationships that I had to walk away from yeah, and not that they were bad
And not that we cut off
But you know what?
It was going to hold me back
From running into everything that I I know God had for me, right? Okay, there are those types of things
And so that it could look differently for each person in their journey
Absolutely, and I think this is where that that mantle piece comes in as well
Right, you don't want to wear Alex's mantle not only because he doesn't want to give it up that because
The cost that comes along with that mantle is not designed for you is designed for Alex in his life
And so you don't look for someone else's mantle
like if if someone wants to give you a similar mantle then sure but know that the cost is
Going to be similar in certain ways as well. And D are you ready to pay the price for that?
Mm-hmm. If you want what I have, are you willing to pay the cost that I paid?
And that's a question we have to like really ask ourselves sometimes, right?
again
Let's take this out of the vein of profit for a second
Ministry position notoriety
That that's glamorous that's you know, that is
You use the word sexy
Novel is one of the words I use right that there's a novelty to it. It's like ooh
right
but
but the the cost associated with it
You know Paul
He as an apostle he paid he paid some
Heavy-duty costs, right? You look at all the prophets in the Old Testament and they paid they paid some prices
for for being and walking in that office we can look throughout throughout church history and
Evangelists and pastors that have paid a price for the call in the office in which they carry
Yeah, that's that's that's what that's why Jesus
He said, you know each each one is to weigh the cost
Of following him. Yeah, listen, there's a cost to being a follower of Jesus. Yeah
Okay, there's there's a cost and here in the West and you know
And and I'm not sure where everybody's watching us from but at least in the in the West and in the United States
We we think we're paying a price
Hey, let's talk to the church in North Korea in Korea, let's talk to the church in China
let's talk to the to to to the ones in the Middle East and in in in in in Jordan in Syria, right in
Iraq in Iran like let's let let's talk to those
And see and see see what costs for just being a follower of Jesus's
And so so again, it's not it's not a doom and gloom thing
A doom and gloom thing it is a very true thing. Yeah, there is a cost but the benefit
Listen I would pay I would pay ten times over the things that I've had to pay
Just to be with him
just for the
benefit. And I'm not talking the benefit of a platform, the benefit of an audience,
the benefit of a following, just for the benefit of serving.
Just for the benefit of being close. Now, we have union with God. He's in us and we are in Him,
the scripture says, but the benefit of knowing the benefit of, I served well,
I pay it 10 times over every single day and twice on Sunday.
The reward is so much greater than the cost.
Agreed. And I feel the same way. It's more than well worth it.
Yeah. Any day, all day, any day.
Okay. I don't know who it was, but someone said that sometimes that you don't know the cost until
you're in it. I would have to say that sometimes you actually get a choice.
Yeah. I agree with that.
Because there were definitely, I definitely remember choices being presented to me and like,
will you do this? Yeah. And listen, here's the thing, I don't believe, I don't believe that the
Lord is going to make you pay a price that you're unwilling to pay. Yeah. Like you said, He gives
you the choice. Hey, here's the cost. Because I tell you, through the hard things that we have
walked through, even as a family, my wife and I, some of the stuff that we're navigating even now
in the season that we're in and within ministry in general, there is a choice.
Right? That might be too steep. I'm not going to pay that. And listen, God's going to honor
your free will. Yeah. He's going to honor your will and He's not going to violate that. Now,
you can delay things because of that. Right? It's one of the things I learned from Danno,
you move at the speed of your own obedience. And so I'm constantly checking in with the Lord,
going, okay, am I moving at the speed of obedience? What is it you're saying?
And what is it that I need to do next? Yeah.
Yeah. But it's worth it. I wouldn't change the last 20 years for anything.
Yeah. Agreed. Agreed, agreed, agreed. Now, for those of you that are like, holy smokes,
do I really want to do this? Again, think about Jesus and who He is and what He's invited you
into. Because it's so beautiful. It's like your journey is tailor made for you.
And the outcome is going to be incredible. So there's that part to consider as well. And I,
you know, are there, okay, I know we're getting close to being done.
Yeah. So I just, I know there's a lot of questions here that are just going to have to go unanswered
for right now, because we're not going to sit here for the next two hours. We could do Q and A
for the next two hours. I could totally. Yeah. Yeah. But I want to honor your time and Sarah's
time and everybody else's time. But are there any words of wisdom that you actually want to leave
with this group of emerging prophets and prophetic people? Hey, listen, and I think this is a perfect
setup for what I wanted to share just to close to. There's a cost. The reward is great. The
journey is different for everybody. The mantle is going to be different for everybody. But I want to
say this, you're not meant to do it alone. The wisdom is don't do this by yourself. And this is
what I love about things like emerging prophets is what I love about being a part of prophetic
company is you're not meant to do this alone. Right? You're meant to do this in community.
You're meant to do this in family. You're meant to be part of the body. Right? You know, I've heard
it often said the lone ranger becomes the lone stranger. You're not meant to do this alone. So
the wisdom is wherever you are at in your journey. Get with somebody. Right? Get with
somebody and I like to be around around two types of people people who are further along in my
journey right in their journey and people who are further behind in theirs right so that way
as I'm grabbing over here I can reach back and grab somebody else
hmm okay and and and and find that community you know again I love I love emerging profits
because of that it creates a place where hey we can encourage each other as the scripture says
as long as it's called today we can we can we can spur each other on to love and good works
as the scripture says we can we can we can do that together and I love the fact that I don't
have to do this by myself right I love the fact that I get to operate with friends like Marguerite
with friends like Dano and Bethany and Michelle and with Ryan Pena and and I can go on and on
I love why because when I'm weak they got my back when they're weak I got theirs I don't have to be
the one with the word of the Lord all the time I've got a community of people around me that
are there for me that that care for me that love me not because of what I do not because of how
prophetic I am but because of who I am right some of these people have seen me at my highs they see
me at my lows and they're in my life and they love me my best friend in the whole wide world is Jake
Bullard you know prophet he's now in what uh Charleston South Carolina and and you know what
he's seen me at my highs he's seen me at my lows and we're still in each other's life seven years
later you know and and to have community and family around that's that's the wisdom the wisdom
is don't do this by yourself come on so good well thank you Alex yeah it's my pleasure yeah
especially so last minute guys if you my my brain has not been where it needs to be so I
I texted him yesterday Alex could you possibly I was in panic mode and he just so graciously said
yes oh but this is what friends are for man yeah yeah it's true hey I'm gonna throw a link in the
chat this is uh I'm still building my website but this will bring bring up some link tree stuff and
you can find out a little bit more about what what my wife and I do what we do what I do
um and so it's thrown at home.com and you you'll find all our links to all the stuff
there and uh love to connect with you on social media hit me up on Instagram hit me up on Facebook
and let's let's let's be part of the journey together you know all right perfect perfect all
right um Macy is going to give everybody unmuting powers and everybody unmute and say goodbye but
bye