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It's good to see everybody today as you can see I am still not at home and still have

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my wonderful corded earbuds which they don't sound awesome so that I have to do this otherwise

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you're gonna hear me like this and Alex over here my wonderful friend Alex who I will introduce

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has this beautiful setup pro setup because he loves all the good sounds so listen if

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you saw what it looks like behind the scenes I'm in my living room I've got laundry over

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here I got a playpen over here I got a baby carrier over here like just looks looks can

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be deceiving don't let it fool you I thought maybe you were in your office I don't you're

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at home no I'm at home I yeah okay all right all right so fine whatever okay so I told

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him I'm a little bit jealous he's making me look really bad right now I'm gonna take

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a picture and put it in the chat okay hi everyone it's good to see everybody let us know where

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you're tuning in from so today we have with us special guests and my good friend Alex

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Morales he and his wife Sarah and they're four right it's four now it's it's four now

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four beautiful children live in the Austin area in Texas and so I'm just so thankful

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that he's gonna be on with us today he's he's a called an office prophet called to the office

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and so we're gonna have a little bit of a chat and so I love these kinds of calls because

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I love to showcase what what prophets can look like because we all we're all on a different

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journey and if you can identify with you know oh that's what an office prophet looks

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like to this person then maybe it'll help you just a little bit on your journey and

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embrace the assignment that's on your life so this is why I love doing that so Alex I

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yeah a little bit but you want to go ahead and you know just intro yourself a little

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bit yeah so yeah so like Marguerite said I'm Alex and I I do a number of different things

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in ministry right so I've been in vocational ministry for almost 30 years I've been by

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vocational I've been a pastor I was a senior pastor you know working as a prophet I work

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with prophetic company and Dan McCollum and Bethany Hicks as a master trainer in our certification

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program I work with George and Banoff in the global school global celebration school of

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supernatural and do some travel with him and then my wife and I we we pastor locally and

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do ministry as worship leaders and worship worshipers and so yeah it's just been it's

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been great and like Marguerite said we've got four kids so we've got a 15 year old we

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have a 12 year old we have a 9 year old and a 10 month old yes that was that was all Jesus

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he was he was not a surprise he was a complete shock but he was definitely the missing piece

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in our family so Zion's actually upstairs taking a nap wow yeah yeah life's life's fun

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in my household right now I can't even imagine like that would be so interesting oh it is

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yeah that would be like me having a kid right now as well listen I'm their baby I turned

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I turned 47 in January and so he was born when I was 46 I was that's not what I thought

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was gonna happen when I was in my upper 40s but yeah it's it's been great well I'm so

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glad I'm so glad to hear that it's been great yeah yeah so there's people on here you know

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that are saying bless you oh my amazing blessing and then Jerry says she Jerry are you a lady or

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a man I can't tell from just the name so sorry but says been there completely get it yeah yeah

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I got one I got one getting ready to drive and one who's still in diapers it's like it's yeah

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it's crazy that's that's got to be so bizarre it is it is I'm here's what I'm honestly looking

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forward to when Zion that's his name right when Zion is you know old enough to start going to the

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movies and stuff I can probably get a senior discount and a student discount at the same

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time so that'll save me some money's money on both sides yeah you know go to Denny's get a

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kids meal and a senior meal at the same time that's gonna be fantastic yeah it's gonna be

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great as you can see Alex has a great outlook on life yes yes he's very positive thank you Jesus

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yes we need more happy prophets around

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Right?

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We do, we do need more happy prophets.

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You guys actually just had a prophetic summit in Texas

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this past weekend.

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And I know that there's some people that are on here

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that are gonna watch the replay

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that were at that prophetic summit.

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So they have seen you just a smidgen.

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Just a bit.

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Just a bit.

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I'd love to talk about your prophet journey

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just a little bit.

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Yeah, go for it.

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You know, I know some of us have unusual things happen,

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unusual circumstances, but other times, you know,

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we just wanna know what it's like.

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So when did you first begin to have an inkling

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that you were a prophet?

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Like, how did that happen to you?

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Oh, I love that question.

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So to answer that,

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I actually gotta give you some history and background.

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So I grew up in church.

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I've been in church since I was two years old.

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My dad got saved when I was two.

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But we grew up cessationist.

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We grew up complete cessationists.

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Like, think John MacArthur, like, strange fire guys.

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Like, that was us growing up.

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Went off to college.

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I had a full scholarship.

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I was pre-med to University of Miami.

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And during that time, I was involved in my local church.

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It was a Southern Baptist church.

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And I felt a calling into pastoral ministry.

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got my degree in theology and biblical studies,

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and did everything.

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So I've been a pastor since I was 18.

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At 18, they made me their youth pastor.

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I was a senior pastor of my own church.

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It was in that season that I had an experience with God

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that I didn't really have a theological grid for.

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And it was the first time I ever heard his audible voice.

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And the story is way longer.

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And for the sake of time, I won't get into it.

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But I found myself one morning at my church in prayer.

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It was like 5 a.m.

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I was all alone.

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I had called a prayer gathering

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just to really pray for our church

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because we were in some massive transition.

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I was the only one who would show up.

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And I was ready to quit, ready to give up,

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ready to walk away from everything.

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And I remember I'm kneeling down at the altar area

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of this Southern Baptist church in Miami, Florida.

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And I prayed the most honest, sincere prayer

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I could ever pray.

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And it's, God, I don't know what to do.

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And unless you show me you're real, I quit.

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And I heard his audible voice.

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Man.

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And what he said to me was this.

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He said, Alex, you know my word.

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But you don't know my power.

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And I'm gonna teach you what it means to operate in both.

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And for the next two and a half hours,

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I was in a third heaven encounter I didn't have a grid for.

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I won't get into all of the encounter,

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but the Lord began to show me.

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Jesus started to show me my destiny.

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And he started to show me that I was called to be a prophet.

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And because I didn't have a grid for all of that,

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I sort of shelved that part.

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But I knew that what I experienced was real.

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And it just made me hungry for kingdom.

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It made me hungry for revival.

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It made me hungry to know the Holy Spirit.

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It made me hungry to see a manifestation of word and power.

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And it set me on this pathway.

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It set me on this journey.

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We'll flash forward a number of years.

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It was probably about 12 years ago then.

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So that was around 20 years ago, 12 years ago,

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my wife and I, we move out to Austin,

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hungry, still pretty new in what we'd call revival culture

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or kingdom mindedness.

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And we moved out here based off of a dream the Lord gave me.

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And it was a, he brought me to Austin in the dream.

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I had never been here before.

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And so we're here for several months.

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And we're walking around the city.

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And it was probably at this point,

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the third time I had heard his audible voice.

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And we're walking around Austin, it's our anniversary.

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And just getting to know the place.

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And I hear the Lord say,

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Alex, I want you to begin a prophesy over the city

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because I called you to be a prophet.

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And that was the first time in probably eight years

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that I really remembered that part of the encounter

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that I had had.

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And I'm like, okay, what does this mean?

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And so I'm feeling this internal call

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and I just started prophesying,

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whatever, just God, what do you want to say over the city?

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And as we're walking around doing the tourist thing

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and I'm hearing the Lord's voice,

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I'm hearing the Lord's voice.

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in our new town.

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And I'm like, okay, what does this mean?

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I'm just releasing what I'm hearing.

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And I'm like, okay, what does this mean?

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About a year, two years later,

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I am maybe three in that timeframe.

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It's our anniversary again.

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And it was February 22nd.

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And I had this dream and in the dream,

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I'm walking down this road and I see this,

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I see what looked like a massive bird

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walking along the road.

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He steps over what I would describe as a blanket

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because that was the language I had then.

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He stops, turns around, looks at me

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and has the face of a man and he says,

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I want you to pick this up, wear it and walk in it.

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And I had that dream three times over the next six months.

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The interesting thing was the day that I had that dream

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was actually the day that they were burying Bob Jones.

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He had passed that February 14th.

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And so I didn't have much of a grid for it,

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for the dream or what it meant.

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Had it three times over six months.

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A year later, my wife and I are in Dallas leading worship

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at a young adults conference at a church

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and Bobby Conner was the main speaker.

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And getting to interact with Bobby and just doing stuff.

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One day we're sitting at lunch and he starts,

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if you've ever been around Bobby Conner,

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he's got stories, he's gonna talk and it's amazing.

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And he looks at me and he says, son, you're so hungry.

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And we're at lunch and I'm looking at the menu.

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I'm like, yes, sir, yeah.

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He goes, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Start asking your questions.

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And so I just start asking questions

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for the next two and a half hours.

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I'm asking him question after question.

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Bobby doesn't really always answer.

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He'll go off on a tangent,

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but in the tangent is the answer to your question.

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And through that, it got to this thing on dreams.

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And I said, hey, I've got this dream.

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I'd love to know what it means.

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And he said, go ahead, tell me your dream.

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Now, when I get comfortable around people,

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I lose control of my tongue a little bit.

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And so I said, I'm sitting here,

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I've got two, at that point, I only had two kids.

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Sarah was pregnant with our daughter, our third.

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And so this is probably around 10 years ago now.

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And I said to Bobby, I said, well, you're the prophet,

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tell me my dream.

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And she kicks me under the table.

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She's like, oh my God,

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I can't believe how disrespectful you are.

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And Bobby took it in stride.

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And he looked at me and he said, son,

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I need you to tell me the dream.

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And I said, okay.

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There was something about the way he said that to me.

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And so I tell him the dream that I just shared with you.

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And he says, I have to tell you

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about the first time I meet Bob Jones.

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Like, no.

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Now, I had met Bobby several times before

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because of my relationship with Georgian.

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And so I'm rewinding years of encounters with Bobby.

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And I'm just, I'm like, no.

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And he said, well, I had this dream.

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And as I'm walking, I'm in this dream

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and I'm walking down this road and I see this bird

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and he's walking along the road

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and he steps over a mantle.

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Turns around, looks and it's the face of Bob Jones.

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And Bob Jones says, I want you to pick this up

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and I want you to wear it

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because you're called to be a prophet

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and you're gonna walk in the office of the prophet.

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And he looks at me, he goes,

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son, you had the same dream I had.

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And the Lord has called you to the office of the prophet.

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you'll pick up that mantle and you'll wear it.

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You're just staring at the mantle.

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The Lord's telling you to pick it up and walk in it.

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And it freaked me out.

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I was like, oh my gosh, like, okay.

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and on the third, the final night,

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I'm in the green room with Bobby and my wife

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and a couple of others.

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And I said, Bobby, I wanna walk in that.

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I just don't know how, I don't know what that means.

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And he says, well, that mantle is the same one

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that I carry, it's the same one that Bob Jones carried.

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I'm gonna lay hands on you

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and release an impartation of it so you'll know.

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And boom, I mean, it just hit me.

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I was having encounters and all sorts of stuff.

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I was just, it was just so much.

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I prayed, I was like, God,

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I don't know what to do with this.

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We had come back from that.

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The only other people who knew anything

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about that experience was my senior leaders at the time.

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I shared it with them immediately,

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but because I didn't.

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have any idea how to steward it, what it meant.

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I was like, I'm looking for somebody to train me

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and fathers and mothers and all this.

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So I prayed and I said, God, I need you to shut this off

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until somebody is able to come around me.

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So a year later, it's probably eight years ago now,

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Dan McCollum comes through town.

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We had already built a relationship with him as a church

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and he and Richard are traveling,

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doing some stuff locally.

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And Richard was a senior leader at the time

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and he's such a papa and so proud

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and he's bragging on all of the staff and he gets to me

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and he shares with Dano my experience with Bobby Connor.

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That evening, we're having a meeting at the church

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and Dano comes running up to me.

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And if you know Dano, he doesn't run to anybody.

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No, he makes a beeline, he's running to me.

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And he says, Richard told me about Bobby,

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I need to talk to you.

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And I'm like, sure, yeah, let's talk.

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And he's like, I know Bobby, he doesn't do that.

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He doesn't do that with anybody.

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You need mentors and you need fathers in your life.

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And I said, would you be that?

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He goes, no, but I'm gonna invite you to walk with me.

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And I said, wherever you go, I'll follow.

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And it's been eight years and I just been,

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like a dog on a bone, man.

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I hitched my wagon there and I said, all right,

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I'm gonna learn and eat up everything I can do.

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About a year later, I'm out in Vacaville,

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less than a year later, I'm out in Vacaville

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for the first time for School of Prophetic Training

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that Dano hosts and Prophetic Company hosts.

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And I remember sitting, going to lunch in the,

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it was in the hangar, Margaret.

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It was in the hangar and I'm going to lunch

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and I'm in line and Dano goes, hey, where are you sitting?

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And I said, oh, I'm gonna sit with these.

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He goes, no, you're not, you're sitting with me.

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I said, oh, okay, I guess I'm sitting with you.

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And so walk over to the table and I think,

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actually Margaret, you may have been sitting at that table.

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Probably, I didn't meet you, meet you

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until the following year though, so.

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Of other people and he says, hey, this is Alex.

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He's a friend of mine, he's a prophet in Texas, right, Alex?

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And I was like, yes, and that was it.

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I was sort of thrown in the deep end, honestly.

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And like I said, hitch my wagon there

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and I haven't looked back since.

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So probably a lot longer of a story,

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but that was my journey and just started going,

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okay, what does it look like to walk in this office?

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What does it look like to raise up

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and equip another generation of prophets?

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Because that's part of what I feel called to do.

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Margaret actually gave me a word years ago.

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She said, you're a prophet to the prophets.

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And Dano helped me unpack that a little bit.

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And it's not only that I'm a prophet to prophets

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and prophesy to prophets and work with other prophets,

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but it's about identifying and raising up

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the next generation of prophets

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and raising them from call to office.

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And so that's my journey, really.

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Wow.

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That's quite the journey.

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Yeah, I don't think you've ever heard the whole story.

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No, I didn't hear about that, Dream.

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Yeah.

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I didn't hear about your encounter

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with Bobby Conner or Dano running.

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I think I would have remembered Dano running.

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Yes, absolutely.

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I love this story.

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It's so wild, you know,

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and we have so many people in here that are, you know,

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mystics and have wild God encounters.

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And then we also have people that are just entering

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into this new space of this,

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or they've had God encounters and can't figure out,

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you know, are other people having experiences like me?

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Am I crazy?

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So this is really great to hear.

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You know, we've all heard Chris's story

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about Jesus walking into the bathroom

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and having that encounter.

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Now, so this was, you know,

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a short version of your journey, obviously.

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What would you say were some really practical things

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that you learned, you know,

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just walking alongside Dano and, you know,

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discovering your, what it looks like

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to walk in the office of prophet.

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So one of the first things I learned was to,

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and I'm actually going to quote Hamilton, the play, right?

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Aaron Burr, talk less, smile more.

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That was the first thing I actually learned, you know,

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you know, I, because I grew up the way that I did

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with such a solid Bible background.

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And again, I'll go back to the word.

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the Lord spoke to me the first time I heard his audible voice,

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you know, my word, but you don't know my power. Um, you know,

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I've got the degrees, I've got the certifications,

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I've got all the stuff on the wall.

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So there was a lot of stuff I thought I knew.

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And because I thought I knew stuff, I would just talk. Right. Um,

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and so the first thing I learned was always be a student,

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always be learning,

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always be hungry to learn more than you

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share or impart. I call it now.

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It's the art of being the quietest man in the room.

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Because if you're always talking, you're always, Oh yeah,

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the Lord showed me this and the Lord showed me that. No. Yeah.

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You become white noise.

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But if you learn to be the quietest person in the room and then,

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and then speak what you release and what you say has more power,

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it has more authority. Um, and people will listen.

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And so that was one of the first things I learned was be quiet, learn,

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listen, um, and just continue to continue to

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steward your personal relationship with the Lord. Wow.

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Your time will come. You know, I think the second thing, uh,

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I learned was, um,

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and this is a direct quote from Dano was, uh,

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do you want to be right? Or do you want to see the outcome?

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And I think one of the things that, because of how I am wired,

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I, I am a perceiver knower as my primary receptor.

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I don't know how I know the things that I know. I just know that I know.

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Um, and, um,

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I'm a bit of a mystic in the sense of dreams and encounters in that way.

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Um, and so I often see things

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before it happens, like sometimes days, sometimes months,

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sometimes years before it happens, but because it seems so real to me, I,

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I'm also a builder and I'm going to run and try to build it and get it to happen

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and go. And, you know,

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I would often sit in our pastoral staff meetings and I'd say something,

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I'd say, Hey, this is what the Lord is saying.

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This is what we need to do. And it would be years before,

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before anyone took any action on it. And when they finally did,

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I'd be so frustrated. I'm like, I told you this three years ago,

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I've been saying this, I've been, I've been ringing this bell for months.

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Like this guy walks in off the street and he says something and all of a sudden

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it's like, Oh my God, it's the first time you ever heard it.

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And I get so frustrated and Dano Dano challenged me. He's like, Alex,

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do you want to be right? Or do you want to see the outcome? Wow. And I said,

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honestly, I want both because I'm an, I'm a high D I'm an eight personality,

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you know, on the enneagram. Like I want both. I said, but,

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but the reality is I want to see, I want to see the outcome.

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I want to see it happen. And he said, okay, so you just keep going for that.

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Don't worry about being right. Don't worry about the, I told you so. And that,

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that, that partnered with learning to be just quiet and still,

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and learning when to release a word, learning when to hold a word.

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Those, those are probably the two biggest things, lessons I've learned.

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Mm. Yeah. I think I love your story about like,

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you know, D just sharing, knowing things outside of time.

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Right. And Dano talks about, this is called living anachronistically,

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that we live outside of time. And so we see outside of time and that can be so

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hard. I love what, you know,

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Deb Crone has done that same kind of experience.

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And one of the things that she actually talks about,

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which has stuck with me the most is like, you're like a UPS delivery person.

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You know, you, you just deliver the package, but you don't look for,

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you don't wait for them to open up the package. You don't say,

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how was the delivery? You know, can you unwrap it a little bit faster?

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What do you think of the product? You know? No, that's, that's not your job.

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It's just to deliver the package and, you know,

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obviously how the package is delivered, it matters. But, you know, when we're,

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when we're seeing outside of time and, you know,

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I think it's really important that we steward, how do,

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you know, steward the timeline of when,

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when we're seeing things, when we're picking up on stuff,

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like is it three years out? Is it two years out?

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Like some of this is training for, for us when we, when that happens.

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And so I love that so much. And I love,

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I love the advice that Dano gave you.

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And it's, and it's learning sometimes you're just training, right?

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And so I've, I've become an avid note taker and journaler,

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so to speak, because

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because if, if I don't

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Um, if I don't, then I can get frustrated.

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And so what I do is if I don't have an assignment on something, uh, I just

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start taking notes and track it for myself because I know that I'm training.

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I'm building up my accuracy.

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I'm building up things.

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So I think this is, will be the first time I share this anywhere.

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Um, but I'll give you a real practical for instance.

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And, um, so I've got a note in, in my phone that is dated February 22nd.

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Probably can't see that.

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Okay.

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But it's dated February 22nd.

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Um, and I had a dream and in that dream, uh, I dreamt Pope Francis will die in

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around the beginning of Easter and by Pentecost, we'll have a new Pope.

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Right.

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Wow.

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If I hadn't built up a history in accuracy and even learning how to hold

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onto something, right.

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Um, man, the temptation to jump on Facebook and put this out there, right.

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The temptation to start telling everybody I know, and the Lord was like, uh, no,

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I'm revealing my secrets to my friends.

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Um, can I trust you to keep my secrets?

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Yeah.

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So I, I, I took a note, made sure it was dated.

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I emailed it to myself.

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So there's an official timestamp on it.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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And shared it with my wife, Sarah, and that was it.

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Um, and I'm still waiting to see how this word plays out.

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Right.

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Because there were some other things that I saw happening with the new Pope.

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And so just sitting around going, okay, conclave starts this Tuesday and I'm

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waiting to see, right, because I know that I'm training, I'm training in an

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area that I'm called to reign in.

488
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And so, you know, um, I think that's a huge part of that.

489
00:27:05.580 --> 00:27:06.140
I do.

490
00:27:06.180 --> 00:27:07.860
I saw a question pop up in the chat.

491
00:27:07.860 --> 00:27:12.020
Can we, can we, hold, hold, hold, please.

492
00:27:12.020 --> 00:27:13.340
While I put on my glasses.

493
00:27:13.820 --> 00:27:14.740
Oh my gosh.

494
00:27:15.300 --> 00:27:18.620
You know, I'm officially at the age, let me just get this out here.

495
00:27:18.940 --> 00:27:23.900
I'm officially at the age where I got to put these on to read, take them off to

496
00:27:23.900 --> 00:27:29.220
see, and these are prescriptions y'all like this, it's not like these are readers

497
00:27:29.220 --> 00:27:30.180
or anything like that.

498
00:27:30.180 --> 00:27:31.940
And it's, it's just driving me nuts.

499
00:27:31.940 --> 00:27:33.460
So I'm, I'm putting that out there.

500
00:27:33.540 --> 00:27:34.780
I'm praying for healing.

501
00:27:35.260 --> 00:27:40.100
Um, for, so I don't have to do that, but there was a question about picking up

502
00:27:41.100 --> 00:27:46.580
and, um, I'm, I'm re looking for it in the chat.

503
00:27:47.060 --> 00:27:52.940
Um, it says, he says it's from does, does one in the office of the prophet

504
00:27:52.940 --> 00:27:54.580
normally pick up someone else's man?

505
00:27:54.580 --> 00:28:04.300
So I think this is huge because I will often get people with well meaning

506
00:28:04.300 --> 00:28:07.500
hearts and intentions say, Hey, can you impart your mantle to me?

507
00:28:08.540 --> 00:28:09.780
And my answer is no.

508
00:28:10.660 --> 00:28:11.700
Because I'm still using it.

509
00:28:15.060 --> 00:28:16.220
I I'm still wearing it.

510
00:28:16.420 --> 00:28:17.980
I'm still learning how, how to wear it.

511
00:28:18.340 --> 00:28:18.660
Right.

512
00:28:18.700 --> 00:28:24.820
I still like, uh, my, my call and assignment isn't up yet.

513
00:28:25.060 --> 00:28:25.420
Right.

514
00:28:25.540 --> 00:28:25.780
Yeah.

515
00:28:25.820 --> 00:28:31.300
It's the reason why, uh, the safest person to sit on, on a long distance

516
00:28:31.300 --> 00:28:34.660
airplane ride is me because I'm not done.

517
00:28:35.300 --> 00:28:35.700
Right.

518
00:28:35.740 --> 00:28:40.140
I like, I, I, I flew to Florida last a couple of weeks ago.

519
00:28:40.420 --> 00:28:42.340
My mom was recovering from surgery.

520
00:28:42.340 --> 00:28:45.500
So I went out to take care of her and help out lady next to

521
00:28:45.500 --> 00:28:47.380
me is bugging on this flight.

522
00:28:47.460 --> 00:28:51.060
Like we hit, we hit some turbulence and it was, it was pretty jarring.

523
00:28:51.620 --> 00:28:53.660
And she's like, Oh my gosh, you're so calm.

524
00:28:54.020 --> 00:28:56.700
You know, I'm like, Hey, listen, you don't got to worry about

525
00:28:56.700 --> 00:28:57.780
this plane ain't going nowhere.

526
00:28:58.180 --> 00:28:59.260
And she's like, why not?

527
00:28:59.300 --> 00:29:00.140
I was like, cause I'm on it.

528
00:29:01.940 --> 00:29:04.060
And she's like, what does that mean?

529
00:29:04.060 --> 00:29:05.260
I said, I know what I'm called to.

530
00:29:05.260 --> 00:29:08.860
I know what God, God's plans for my life are, and I haven't completed them yet.

531
00:29:08.860 --> 00:29:12.340
And I'm not going anywhere until they're done.

532
00:29:12.900 --> 00:29:15.700
And so you're probably in the safest spot.

533
00:29:15.700 --> 00:29:18.220
You can be, she looked at me.

534
00:29:18.220 --> 00:29:18.940
It was like, I don't know.

535
00:29:18.940 --> 00:29:22.100
She thought I was nuts or she was just assured, but

536
00:29:22.100 --> 00:29:23.580
she calmed down really quickly.

537
00:29:24.060 --> 00:29:26.580
Um, but back to the mantle thing, right?

538
00:29:27.260 --> 00:29:31.660
You don't always pick up someone else's mantle, especially

539
00:29:31.660 --> 00:29:32.700
if they're still wearing it.

540
00:29:33.540 --> 00:29:33.980
Right.

541
00:29:34.180 --> 00:29:40.260
So, so the, the, the thing with Bobby and the, the thing with Bob Jones, when Bobby

542
00:29:40.260 --> 00:29:46.060
says, Hey, you're called to wear the same mantle that both I carry and Bob Jones

543
00:29:46.060 --> 00:29:49.100
carried, it wasn't the one that they were wearing.

544
00:29:49.100 --> 00:29:53.500
It's the same as if though, Hey, I've got that same shirt, right?

545
00:29:53.540 --> 00:29:56.620
Oh, I have that same exact jacket, right?

546
00:29:57.820 --> 00:29:59.820
However, it's going to be tailored different.

547
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:05.000
because it'll be designed to fit me, right?

548
00:30:05.320 --> 00:30:08.840
If I took this over shirt off

549
00:30:08.840 --> 00:30:10.880
and gave it to one of you to wear,

550
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:14.160
it might look like a boat cover to you

551
00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:16.500
because I'm a big guy, right?

552
00:30:16.500 --> 00:30:21.500
It's not tailored for you, it's meant for me.

553
00:30:21.500 --> 00:30:25.520
But if you went, I guess this is Target, I don't know.

554
00:30:25.520 --> 00:30:28.800
If you went and picked up one from Target,

555
00:30:28.800 --> 00:30:32.080
it would be for you to wear, but it's the same.

556
00:30:32.080 --> 00:30:34.080
Does that make sense?

557
00:30:34.080 --> 00:30:39.080
Now, there are times where there are those generals

558
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:42.640
that have passed and they laid down their mantle, right?

559
00:30:42.640 --> 00:30:44.560
Or their mantle is laid down.

560
00:30:44.560 --> 00:30:47.260
I believe those you can pick up, right?

561
00:30:47.260 --> 00:30:49.840
But even then the Lord does something supernaturally

562
00:30:49.840 --> 00:30:53.100
to tailor it to you, okay?

563
00:30:53.100 --> 00:30:54.760
Because you're going to wear it differently.

564
00:30:54.760 --> 00:30:56.120
You're gonna walk in it differently.

565
00:30:56.120 --> 00:30:58.680
It's gonna rest on you differently.

566
00:30:59.400 --> 00:31:04.400
Yes, Elijah goes up in the whirlwind, right?

567
00:31:04.840 --> 00:31:09.460
And Elisha sees it and picks up the mantle and puts it on.

568
00:31:09.460 --> 00:31:12.000
But I guarantee you, it looked completely different

569
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:14.880
on Elisha than it did on Elijah.

570
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.120
Elisha used it and operated in it

571
00:31:18.120 --> 00:31:20.840
completely different than Elijah.

572
00:31:20.840 --> 00:31:25.160
Elisha does twice as many recorded miracles

573
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:31.160
in the Old Testament than Elijah does with the same mantle.

574
00:31:33.280 --> 00:31:35.840
So it looks differently.

575
00:31:35.840 --> 00:31:40.720
So, you know, especially going to all of these conferences

576
00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:42.480
and these events, man, I tell you,

577
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:44.480
you got people who are mantle junkies.

578
00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:45.440
Oh, I want it.

579
00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:50.400
You can't have mine, but I can give you an impartation

580
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:53.940
of the grace that this gives me, right?

581
00:31:54.020 --> 00:31:56.540
And that's what Bobby was doing with me,

582
00:31:56.540 --> 00:31:59.380
is, hey, it might be the same mantle.

583
00:31:59.380 --> 00:32:02.500
This is for you, but I'm going to release an impartation

584
00:32:02.500 --> 00:32:07.500
of the grace that I carry from my mantle.

585
00:32:07.620 --> 00:32:08.940
Does that make sense?

586
00:32:08.940 --> 00:32:11.180
Yeah, that's a great answer.

587
00:32:11.180 --> 00:32:12.520
I love that so much.

588
00:32:14.060 --> 00:32:16.220
Wow, there's just wisdom.

589
00:32:16.220 --> 00:32:18.340
You know, I really feel the presence of the Lord

590
00:32:18.340 --> 00:32:20.020
as you're speaking.

591
00:32:20.020 --> 00:32:22.940
You know, there's just really wisdom being imparted

592
00:32:22.940 --> 00:32:26.140
into people as they're figuring

593
00:32:26.140 --> 00:32:27.500
this whole mantle thing out.

594
00:32:27.500 --> 00:32:30.420
And I feel like that is such a practical answer.

595
00:32:30.420 --> 00:32:33.440
Well, of course you can't have my jacket or my mantle.

596
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:37.260
Now it's mine, but here's where you can get one, you know?

597
00:32:37.260 --> 00:32:39.180
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

598
00:32:39.180 --> 00:32:44.180
Yeah, I think that another question would be is like,

599
00:32:44.620 --> 00:32:48.900
some people in here are so new to the prophetic

600
00:32:48.900 --> 00:32:53.380
and just, you know, trying to figure out, you know,

601
00:32:53.380 --> 00:32:55.340
whether or not they're called to be a prophet.

602
00:32:55.340 --> 00:32:58.020
Obviously they're resonating with something

603
00:32:58.020 --> 00:33:00.140
because, you know, Chris is in here, I'm in here,

604
00:33:00.140 --> 00:33:02.920
Peter's in here, got a bunch of prophets in here.

605
00:33:03.820 --> 00:33:07.660
What would you say to them in just pursuing

606
00:33:07.660 --> 00:33:10.840
their knowledge of, am I called to be a prophet?

607
00:33:13.100 --> 00:33:17.800
I would first begin to look at, well, what is a prophet?

608
00:33:19.260 --> 00:33:24.260
Right here, let's make this official, like Bible time.

609
00:33:27.060 --> 00:33:30.580
I'm gonna scroll, you know, for years as a pastor,

610
00:33:30.580 --> 00:33:34.100
I'll turn in your Bibles too, I got that language out.

611
00:33:34.100 --> 00:33:38.140
If you have your Bible app, scroll to Ephesians chapter four.

612
00:33:40.540 --> 00:33:41.380
Right?

613
00:33:41.380 --> 00:33:42.220
Okay.

614
00:33:42.220 --> 00:33:46.140
Let's scroll to Ephesians chapter four for a second, right?

615
00:33:46.140 --> 00:33:48.460
Verse 11, and he himself, who's this?

616
00:33:49.020 --> 00:33:49.980
It's Christ Jesus, right?

617
00:33:49.980 --> 00:33:53.180
And he himself gave some as apostles, some as prophets,

618
00:33:53.180 --> 00:33:56.100
and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers.

619
00:33:56.100 --> 00:33:58.660
And we love that verse, especially as people

620
00:33:58.660 --> 00:34:02.980
who are hungry for a prophetic move

621
00:34:02.980 --> 00:34:07.480
and for, I'll use the language of office,

622
00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:10.139
even though I personally no longer use

623
00:34:10.139 --> 00:34:11.659
the language of office.

624
00:34:11.659 --> 00:34:13.639
I use the language of office simply because

625
00:34:13.639 --> 00:34:16.340
that's what most people recognize.

626
00:34:16.340 --> 00:34:17.179
Right.

627
00:34:17.179 --> 00:34:20.380
Nowhere here in scripture do we see that it's an office.

628
00:34:20.380 --> 00:34:21.219
Right?

629
00:34:21.219 --> 00:34:22.580
It is a grace.

630
00:34:22.580 --> 00:34:24.739
It is an ascension gift.

631
00:34:24.739 --> 00:34:27.780
And he himself gave gifts.

632
00:34:27.780 --> 00:34:29.219
What are the gifts?

633
00:34:29.219 --> 00:34:31.380
The gifts are actually the people, right?

634
00:34:31.380 --> 00:34:34.940
So apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, teachers.

635
00:34:34.940 --> 00:34:38.380
So we look at this and we're like, yes, I want that.

636
00:34:38.380 --> 00:34:39.940
I wanna, I want that gift.

637
00:34:39.940 --> 00:34:40.760
I wanna be that.

638
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:45.760
Well, listen, first off, it is not a position you fill.

639
00:34:46.600 --> 00:34:48.960
It is who you are.

640
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:49.800
Yeah.

641
00:34:49.800 --> 00:34:51.719
It is an identity you carry.

642
00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:56.639
If you want to be a prophet because it's a position you fill

643
00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:00.080
you can drop the class right now.

644
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:05.240
And I hope you stay through, right?

645
00:35:05.240 --> 00:35:08.900
I don't want to get in trouble for having people drop out.

646
00:35:08.900 --> 00:35:20.040
But if you are only about, oh, that's a respected position, I would begin to question your internal

647
00:35:20.040 --> 00:35:21.680
call.

648
00:35:21.680 --> 00:35:25.920
I would begin to really have some serious dialogue with the Lord.

649
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:32.360
Because it's not easy, right?

650
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:38.320
It's not a journey that is to be taken lightly.

651
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:44.140
There is a pressing, there is a crushing, there is, listen, you know, we can glam this

652
00:35:44.140 --> 00:35:45.640
up all we want.

653
00:35:45.640 --> 00:35:47.160
Oh, it looks great.

654
00:35:47.160 --> 00:35:49.340
Look, man, you get to talk to so many people.

655
00:35:49.340 --> 00:35:53.580
You stand on this platform, and you know, you're doing stuff with Dan O'Alex, you're

656
00:35:53.580 --> 00:36:00.260
doing stuff with Georgian, and you know, it has never been about a platform or a microphone

657
00:36:00.260 --> 00:36:01.260
for me.

658
00:36:01.260 --> 00:36:02.260
Right?

659
00:36:02.260 --> 00:36:03.260
Never.

660
00:36:03.260 --> 00:36:05.580
Listen, I got words for days.

661
00:36:05.580 --> 00:36:10.380
I can talk to people, I can talk to my kids, I can talk to the lady down the street.

662
00:36:10.380 --> 00:36:14.860
If it's about talking and being heard, trust me, I can do that.

663
00:36:14.860 --> 00:36:18.480
It's not about that for me, right?

664
00:36:18.620 --> 00:36:21.240
Because there is a price to be paid.

665
00:36:21.240 --> 00:36:26.120
And I don't know, Marguerite, I don't know that we often talk about the price that is

666
00:36:26.120 --> 00:36:31.200
paid and that we have to pay.

667
00:36:31.200 --> 00:36:39.800
And I'm not trying to downplay, or I'm not trying to be dramatic, okay?

668
00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:44.360
But realistically, seriously, there is a price to pay.

669
00:36:44.360 --> 00:36:46.880
There's rejection that happens.

670
00:36:46.880 --> 00:36:49.280
There's betrayal that happens.

671
00:36:49.280 --> 00:36:50.280
Absolutely.

672
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:51.280
Okay?

673
00:36:51.280 --> 00:36:59.400
There is, there are hard seasons that you walk through that God, I don't believe God

674
00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:07.320
is sending it your way and causing it, but it's part of the process of your formation.

675
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:14.360
Because when you find yourself in the cave like Elijah, and trust me, every prophet I

676
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:20.440
know has had a moment in the cave.

677
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:24.640
I came out of a cave a year and a half ago.

678
00:37:24.640 --> 00:37:29.040
And there are days where I'm like, God, am I back in this cave?

679
00:37:29.040 --> 00:37:31.800
Did I put myself back in this cave?

680
00:37:31.800 --> 00:37:38.000
And I'm just trying to be very transparent with the process.

681
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:44.320
So the first thing is realize that you are the gift.

682
00:37:44.320 --> 00:37:46.120
If you are called, you are the gift.

683
00:37:46.120 --> 00:37:50.480
And so I would begin to say, okay, what's my motivation?

684
00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:53.520
Why am I looking to be a prophet?

685
00:37:53.520 --> 00:37:56.080
Or is this something that the Lord is actually calling me to?

686
00:37:56.080 --> 00:37:58.440
The second part, right?

687
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:04.480
Verse 12, for the equipping of the saints for work of service, for the work of service,

688
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:09.920
to the building up of the body of Christ, until we all attain to the unity of faith,

689
00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:18.480
of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature, which

690
00:38:18.480 --> 00:38:22.120
belongs to the fullness of Christ.

691
00:38:22.120 --> 00:38:27.200
That is your job description as a prophet, okay?

692
00:38:27.200 --> 00:38:29.960
To equip the saints for works of service.

693
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:35.640
I believe every prophet should be equipping the saints in some way, shape, or form.

694
00:38:35.640 --> 00:38:42.360
And not, this is my personal opinion, this may not reflect the values and the teachings

695
00:38:42.360 --> 00:38:45.640
of emerging prophets, Bethel Church, but, right?

696
00:38:45.640 --> 00:38:49.360
So that's my disclaimer.

697
00:38:49.360 --> 00:38:54.480
But I believe it's more than just preaching equipping and modeling equipping.

698
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:56.240
It's stuff like what we're doing here.

699
00:38:56.240 --> 00:39:00.560
The fact that y'all are sitting here, we've got 106 people on this call.

700
00:39:00.560 --> 00:39:04.640
The fact that you're here, this is how we equip.

701
00:39:04.640 --> 00:39:06.600
This is how we equip people.

702
00:39:06.600 --> 00:39:10.920
And so it doesn't mean that every person called to the office of a prophet needs to have a

703
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:15.760
training school or a training program, but there are people that you are pouring into

704
00:39:15.760 --> 00:39:18.960
to equip, right?

705
00:39:18.960 --> 00:39:21.240
To the building up of the body of Christ.

706
00:39:21.240 --> 00:39:24.120
That's the preaching aspect.

707
00:39:24.120 --> 00:39:25.120
That's the preaching aspect.

708
00:39:25.120 --> 00:39:27.720
That's when you stand on the platform.

709
00:39:27.720 --> 00:39:30.360
But the first thing is to be equipping.

710
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:31.360
Until what?

711
00:39:31.360 --> 00:39:34.480
We all attain to the unity of faith.

712
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:43.960
If your prophetic ministry is not unifying the body, listen, my biggest, and I know my

713
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:53.120
prophet hat is on, because my biggest problem, do I want to say it that way?

714
00:39:53.120 --> 00:39:55.080
Oh, I'm already there.

715
00:39:55.080 --> 00:39:57.560
We'll clean this up afterward.

716
00:39:57.560 --> 00:39:59.800
My biggest pet peeve, right?

717
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:08.240
the corporate big c church at times it's its lack of unity we talk about being the bride of christ

718
00:40:09.600 --> 00:40:15.280
but we come off looking like the bride of frankenstein and behaving like the bride of chuckie

719
00:40:20.640 --> 00:40:28.320
but it takes a prophetic voice to call the dry bones to come together and come back to life

720
00:40:30.800 --> 00:40:36.960
i know that sounded harsh so hear my heart like i am full of joy i am happy

721
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:43.840
i am walking in grace and there is grace but listen church we need to do better

722
00:40:45.040 --> 00:40:48.560
the church down the street is not my competition they're my brother and sister

723
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:57.840
right the ministry down the way that has 15 000 followers and i've got 300 i've got 20 i got

724
00:40:57.840 --> 00:41:02.880
five they're not they're not my competition that's not what i'm striving to be i'm striving

725
00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:09.520
to unite the body come on philippians 2 paul says if you have any encouragement from being united

726
00:41:09.520 --> 00:41:14.480
with christ if any comfort from his love if any fellowship with the spirit if any tenderness or

727
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:20.720
compassion verse 3 then make my joy complete by being like-minded having being in one accord

728
00:41:21.680 --> 00:41:23.920
being one in spirit and in purpose

729
00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:31.200
that's the call that's what paul is saying here right so prophets you unify

730
00:41:33.200 --> 00:41:36.880
so the unity of faith and of the knowledge of the son of god

731
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:44.720
i i tell you man there there's a generation coming that's hungry for god but they don't know

732
00:41:45.680 --> 00:41:51.120
the word they don't have a knowledge of the son of god are we prophets

733
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are we training equipping in a knowledge this is why i love love the encounter that i had

734
00:41:59.120 --> 00:42:03.360
alex you know my word but you don't know my power i'm going to teach you what it means to operate in

735
00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:11.120
both so prophet you have to have a foundation in the word okay because that is how we get to

736
00:42:11.120 --> 00:42:15.680
the knowledge of the son of god in the beginning was the word and the word was with god and god was

737
00:42:15.680 --> 00:42:23.840
the word john 1 1 john 1 14 and the word became flesh and made his dwelling among us how do you

738
00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:30.160
get to know the son of god not just through divine revelation but it's right there in the pages of

739
00:42:30.160 --> 00:42:39.600
scripture yeah or in the scroll of the app right yeah um until not to a mature man to the measure

740
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of the stature which belongs to the fullness of christ listen we haven't gotten there we're helping

741
00:42:44.320 --> 00:42:50.400
people in their journey to maturity until they have reached to the full measure of the stature

742
00:42:50.400 --> 00:42:55.840
of the fullness of god and we know colossians says that in christ he has placed the fullness

743
00:42:55.840 --> 00:43:02.640
of the godhead and in you and in christ you have been given fullness so we know it's there now it's

744
00:43:03.600 --> 00:43:08.720
bringing it out so as you look at and this is a way long answer sorry marguerite but if you look

745
00:43:08.720 --> 00:43:14.080
at if you look at that as the job description of a prophet

746
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is that what i'm called to do is that what i'm feeling led to do if any of those is no

747
00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:34.320
then re-look at what you're called to do right okay re-look at that and it's not it's not bad

748
00:43:34.880 --> 00:43:43.920
it's okay why because paul says that we are many members of one body and each member has its

749
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:53.200
purpose listen the head has its purpose but the appendix has a purpose too and the reason why i

750
00:43:53.200 --> 00:43:57.360
bring that one up is because this i once had a person say alex you know we're we're all part

751
00:43:57.360 --> 00:44:01.760
of the body and you say we all have our own purpose i feel like the appendix no one knows

752
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:06.400
what the appendix does i said okay i can tell you one thing don't go bad because if you go bad

753
00:44:06.400 --> 00:44:13.200
you're going to poison the whole body and then you need to be removed come on wow okay but i guarantee

754
00:44:13.200 --> 00:44:21.280
you you've got a purpose and so so so if your purpose if your call is not to the office or

755
00:44:21.280 --> 00:44:29.280
to to be that ascension gift and walk in the ascension grace of that it's okay you still have

756
00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:36.240
usefulness purpose in the body okay um but that's where i would start to look at it and go okay

757
00:44:36.800 --> 00:44:41.120
is this is this does this then resonate with me is this what i'm actually called to

758
00:44:41.680 --> 00:44:49.760
yeah i think it i love your answer it was long but i went into teacher there i'm sorry it's all

759
00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:54.480
good no no you got your preach on you got your yeah i love it and it was so good it was so full

760
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of wisdom and just practicality of what we actually need to hear because you're right it is not glamorous

761
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:07.200
The profit life isn't sexy. It's none of that. It's none of the above like they're they're seriously is a price to pay and

762
00:45:07.560 --> 00:45:09.560
we don't want to

763
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Downplay the goodness of God, but at the same time we don't want to downplay the the cost that it actually

764
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Takes to get to the place of the office

765
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So you're called doesn't necessarily mean that you're in what you don't like to call the office of profit

766
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Like have you emerged as a mature profit? You know, that is that is

767
00:45:30.000 --> 00:45:32.000
you know in that place of

768
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Stepping into your assignment. And so, um, I love that because I look back at my life and I think

769
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Yeah, if I had to do that all over again, what I do it. Yes, because it's worth the cost but there was a cost

770
00:45:46.400 --> 00:45:49.760
Yeah, you know, I know some of your journey, you know some of mine

771
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:55.880
it it's not pretty because you do begin to deal with you know, the self-doubt that

772
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Intimidation the like you said the betrayal there, you know the accusation

773
00:46:01.040 --> 00:46:07.080
There's a jacket. Yeah, all of that action and somebody asked in the chat, which is a great question. What is the cost?

774
00:46:07.080 --> 00:46:12.880
I can't tell you what the cost is for you, right? I know what it cost me, right?

775
00:46:12.880 --> 00:46:16.200
I know what it cost me. Yeah, right

776
00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:25.160
There there were relationships that I had to walk away from yeah, and not that they were bad

777
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:27.880
And not that we cut off

778
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But you know what?

779
00:46:30.080 --> 00:46:32.840
It was going to hold me back

780
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From running into everything that I I know God had for me, right? Okay, there are those types of things

781
00:46:41.720 --> 00:46:47.400
And so that it could look differently for each person in their journey

782
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:52.240
Absolutely, and I think this is where that that mantle piece comes in as well

783
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:58.240
Right, you don't want to wear Alex's mantle not only because he doesn't want to give it up that because

784
00:46:58.640 --> 00:47:04.880
The cost that comes along with that mantle is not designed for you is designed for Alex in his life

785
00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:08.560
And so you don't look for someone else's mantle

786
00:47:08.560 --> 00:47:14.320
like if if someone wants to give you a similar mantle then sure but know that the cost is

787
00:47:15.200 --> 00:47:20.720
Going to be similar in certain ways as well. And D are you ready to pay the price for that?

788
00:47:21.720 --> 00:47:25.880
Mm-hmm. If you want what I have, are you willing to pay the cost that I paid?

789
00:47:27.120 --> 00:47:33.080
And that's a question we have to like really ask ourselves sometimes, right?

790
00:47:34.200 --> 00:47:35.920
again

791
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:38.480
Let's take this out of the vein of profit for a second

792
00:47:40.720 --> 00:47:43.960
Ministry position notoriety

793
00:47:45.960 --> 00:47:49.880
That that's glamorous that's you know, that is

794
00:47:51.720 --> 00:47:53.720
You use the word sexy

795
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:58.680
Novel is one of the words I use right that there's a novelty to it. It's like ooh

796
00:47:59.680 --> 00:48:01.560
right

797
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but

798
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but the the cost associated with it

799
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You know Paul

800
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He as an apostle he paid he paid some

801
00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:22.640
Heavy-duty costs, right? You look at all the prophets in the Old Testament and they paid they paid some prices

802
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:30.040
for for being and walking in that office we can look throughout throughout church history and

803
00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:38.200
Evangelists and pastors that have paid a price for the call in the office in which they carry

804
00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:43.800
Yeah, that's that's that's what that's why Jesus

805
00:48:44.040 --> 00:48:48.280
He said, you know each each one is to weigh the cost

806
00:48:49.600 --> 00:48:56.240
Of following him. Yeah, listen, there's a cost to being a follower of Jesus. Yeah

807
00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:00.760
Okay, there's there's a cost and here in the West and you know

808
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:06.520
And and I'm not sure where everybody's watching us from but at least in the in the West and in the United States

809
00:49:07.600 --> 00:49:10.160
We we think we're paying a price

810
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:14.280
Hey, let's talk to the church in North Korea in Korea, let's talk to the church in China

811
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:22.000
let's talk to the to to to the ones in the Middle East and in in in in in Jordan in Syria, right in

812
00:49:22.520 --> 00:49:26.040
Iraq in Iran like let's let let's talk to those

813
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And see and see see what costs for just being a follower of Jesus's

814
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And so so again, it's not it's not a doom and gloom thing

815
00:49:37.520 --> 00:49:44.640
A doom and gloom thing it is a very true thing. Yeah, there is a cost but the benefit

816
00:49:48.160 --> 00:49:54.840
Listen I would pay I would pay ten times over the things that I've had to pay

817
00:49:56.200 --> 00:49:58.200
Just to be with him

818
00:49:58.760 --> 00:50:00.760
just for the

819
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benefit. And I'm not talking the benefit of a platform, the benefit of an audience,

820
00:50:05.680 --> 00:50:10.080
the benefit of a following, just for the benefit of serving.

821
00:50:12.560 --> 00:50:22.240
Just for the benefit of being close. Now, we have union with God. He's in us and we are in Him,

822
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the scripture says, but the benefit of knowing the benefit of, I served well,

823
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I pay it 10 times over every single day and twice on Sunday.

824
00:50:38.240 --> 00:50:40.560
The reward is so much greater than the cost.

825
00:50:40.560 --> 00:50:49.440
Agreed. And I feel the same way. It's more than well worth it.

826
00:50:50.080 --> 00:50:52.640
Yeah. Any day, all day, any day.

827
00:50:55.520 --> 00:51:01.600
Okay. I don't know who it was, but someone said that sometimes that you don't know the cost until

828
00:51:01.600 --> 00:51:05.680
you're in it. I would have to say that sometimes you actually get a choice.

829
00:51:06.320 --> 00:51:08.320
Yeah. I agree with that.

830
00:51:08.320 --> 00:51:16.080
Because there were definitely, I definitely remember choices being presented to me and like,

831
00:51:17.040 --> 00:51:23.680
will you do this? Yeah. And listen, here's the thing, I don't believe, I don't believe that the

832
00:51:23.680 --> 00:51:31.680
Lord is going to make you pay a price that you're unwilling to pay. Yeah. Like you said, He gives

833
00:51:31.680 --> 00:51:38.560
you the choice. Hey, here's the cost. Because I tell you, through the hard things that we have

834
00:51:38.560 --> 00:51:44.960
walked through, even as a family, my wife and I, some of the stuff that we're navigating even now

835
00:51:44.960 --> 00:51:53.200
in the season that we're in and within ministry in general, there is a choice.

836
00:51:55.200 --> 00:52:03.840
Right? That might be too steep. I'm not going to pay that. And listen, God's going to honor

837
00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:10.720
your free will. Yeah. He's going to honor your will and He's not going to violate that. Now,

838
00:52:10.720 --> 00:52:16.800
you can delay things because of that. Right? It's one of the things I learned from Danno,

839
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:24.480
you move at the speed of your own obedience. And so I'm constantly checking in with the Lord,

840
00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:31.920
going, okay, am I moving at the speed of obedience? What is it you're saying?

841
00:52:32.640 --> 00:52:34.960
And what is it that I need to do next? Yeah.

842
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:41.600
Yeah. But it's worth it. I wouldn't change the last 20 years for anything.

843
00:52:44.560 --> 00:52:52.240
Yeah. Agreed. Agreed, agreed, agreed. Now, for those of you that are like, holy smokes,

844
00:52:54.160 --> 00:53:02.000
do I really want to do this? Again, think about Jesus and who He is and what He's invited you

845
00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:09.440
into. Because it's so beautiful. It's like your journey is tailor made for you.

846
00:53:11.200 --> 00:53:19.040
And the outcome is going to be incredible. So there's that part to consider as well. And I,

847
00:53:20.240 --> 00:53:24.000
you know, are there, okay, I know we're getting close to being done.

848
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:30.800
Yeah. So I just, I know there's a lot of questions here that are just going to have to go unanswered

849
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:35.040
for right now, because we're not going to sit here for the next two hours. We could do Q and A

850
00:53:35.040 --> 00:53:40.080
for the next two hours. I could totally. Yeah. Yeah. But I want to honor your time and Sarah's

851
00:53:40.080 --> 00:53:47.840
time and everybody else's time. But are there any words of wisdom that you actually want to leave

852
00:53:47.840 --> 00:53:56.640
with this group of emerging prophets and prophetic people? Hey, listen, and I think this is a perfect

853
00:53:56.640 --> 00:54:05.840
setup for what I wanted to share just to close to. There's a cost. The reward is great. The

854
00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:11.200
journey is different for everybody. The mantle is going to be different for everybody. But I want to

855
00:54:11.200 --> 00:54:21.440
say this, you're not meant to do it alone. The wisdom is don't do this by yourself. And this is

856
00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:25.360
what I love about things like emerging prophets is what I love about being a part of prophetic

857
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:34.320
company is you're not meant to do this alone. Right? You're meant to do this in community.

858
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:42.160
You're meant to do this in family. You're meant to be part of the body. Right? You know, I've heard

859
00:54:42.160 --> 00:54:49.280
it often said the lone ranger becomes the lone stranger. You're not meant to do this alone. So

860
00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:59.920
the wisdom is wherever you are at in your journey. Get with somebody. Right? Get with

861
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:06.480
somebody and I like to be around around two types of people people who are further along in my

862
00:55:06.480 --> 00:55:18.080
journey right in their journey and people who are further behind in theirs right so that way

863
00:55:19.040 --> 00:55:22.880
as I'm grabbing over here I can reach back and grab somebody else

864
00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:32.080
hmm okay and and and and find that community you know again I love I love emerging profits

865
00:55:32.080 --> 00:55:37.680
because of that it creates a place where hey we can encourage each other as the scripture says

866
00:55:37.680 --> 00:55:43.200
as long as it's called today we can we can we can spur each other on to love and good works

867
00:55:43.200 --> 00:55:49.760
as the scripture says we can we can we can do that together and I love the fact that I don't

868
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:59.120
have to do this by myself right I love the fact that I get to operate with friends like Marguerite

869
00:55:59.120 --> 00:56:06.880
with friends like Dano and Bethany and Michelle and with Ryan Pena and and I can go on and on

870
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:17.920
I love why because when I'm weak they got my back when they're weak I got theirs I don't have to be

871
00:56:17.920 --> 00:56:25.200
the one with the word of the Lord all the time I've got a community of people around me that

872
00:56:25.200 --> 00:56:33.600
are there for me that that care for me that love me not because of what I do not because of how

873
00:56:33.600 --> 00:56:42.160
prophetic I am but because of who I am right some of these people have seen me at my highs they see

874
00:56:42.160 --> 00:56:47.360
me at my lows and they're in my life and they love me my best friend in the whole wide world is Jake

875
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:54.800
Bullard you know prophet he's now in what uh Charleston South Carolina and and you know what

876
00:56:54.800 --> 00:57:00.480
he's seen me at my highs he's seen me at my lows and we're still in each other's life seven years

877
00:57:00.480 --> 00:57:10.720
later you know and and to have community and family around that's that's the wisdom the wisdom

878
00:57:10.720 --> 00:57:18.480
is don't do this by yourself come on so good well thank you Alex yeah it's my pleasure yeah

879
00:57:18.480 --> 00:57:24.720
especially so last minute guys if you my my brain has not been where it needs to be so I

880
00:57:24.720 --> 00:57:33.200
I texted him yesterday Alex could you possibly I was in panic mode and he just so graciously said

881
00:57:33.200 --> 00:57:40.240
yes oh but this is what friends are for man yeah yeah it's true hey I'm gonna throw a link in the

882
00:57:40.240 --> 00:57:46.240
chat this is uh I'm still building my website but this will bring bring up some link tree stuff and

883
00:57:46.240 --> 00:57:50.640
you can find out a little bit more about what what my wife and I do what we do what I do

884
00:57:51.280 --> 00:57:56.640
um and so it's thrown at home.com and you you'll find all our links to all the stuff

885
00:57:57.200 --> 00:58:02.240
there and uh love to connect with you on social media hit me up on Instagram hit me up on Facebook

886
00:58:02.240 --> 00:58:07.680
and let's let's let's be part of the journey together you know all right perfect perfect all

887
00:58:07.680 --> 00:58:14.560
right um Macy is going to give everybody unmuting powers and everybody unmute and say goodbye but

888
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bye
