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Hey. How are you? I'm doing good. How are you? Good. Good. Where are you headed? I'm

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headed to Greensboro, North Carolina, and I'm actually, sorry, let me put this, oh,

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I think I have to type it in. I got a new address. I'm going to, just a second. Well,

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I don't know. Now, if I want to go there first. No, I don't. Sorry. I thought I had a new

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address that I needed to go to instead of the one I was calling to, but we'll just stick

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with this one. So, sorry about that. That's okay. That's it. Such an interesting day today.

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I just got off the call with one client. Now, I'm on a demo with you. I will, as soon as

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I get off with you, I will check into my hotel, leave my little dog there, then go to a pastor

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friend's house. They're making supper for me, but before we eat supper, they're going

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to set me up someplace in their house from which I'm going to do the, I'm in Natalie's,

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I'm a guest trainer at Natalie's workshop tonight. You know, Natalie, the member of

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the rest intensive. So, anyway, and then after I get off that workshop, which I don't know

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if that's going to end at 6.30 or 7, then we're going to eat. It's a wild day. So, how

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are you? I'm good. Yeah. Yeah. It was a good weekend. I'm feeling good. Yeah. Good. Good.

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So, what's going on? Well, I wanted to talk to you more about what we started talking

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about on the Thursday night call about, like, how do, you know how you were talking about

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using, like, the open-ended questions and empowering them to enroll themselves and everything.

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I've really been working on my money mindset and trying to, like, I'm really struggling,

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like, I have been struggling with how to charge, you know, a certain monthly amount that would

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be, you know, totally worth it for what they get, but I want to serve everybody. So, I'm

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having a hard time not almost going the route you're going, where I'm like, just pay what

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you can, you know. Here's the minimum, but pay what you can. And I love that idea, but

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at the same time, I know it's not super, I don't know, I think that kind of messes with

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my head a bit, because I see you doing it that way. And I think, am I, I'm struggling

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between I should charge money, because, you know, that's part of me getting paid for the

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business, and separating that out from my ministry, versus making my business my ministry

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and just saying, you know what, people can pay whatever they want, because then, I don't

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know, then they can afford it, and then they get what they need to get. So, I'm really,

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I think I'm struggling with that, because I almost look at you as being able to do it

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from this place of rest, this place of God's my protection and my provision, and then I

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look at me, and I'm like, is my only way of, and you're going to say no, but I'm like,

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or maybe is the best way of living in that space of believing God for my protection and

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provision, saying that people can pay whatever they want. And if I'm asking for, you know,

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hundreds of dollars a month for the program, am I focusing too much on money? Am I worshipping

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money? Or, like, I'm really kind of struggling with that.

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Yeah, well, yeah, that makes sense. And you always ask really big questions, a lot of

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really insightful ones. I mean, ones that are, like, at the root of things. So, in other

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words, that you boldly face them, and boldly face them for yourself, and then ask them.

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And then other people are just too afraid to go there, so they don't even articulate

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it for themselves, let alone actually voice it to someone else. So, first of all, know

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that this is not something that I used to train people how to do, you know, the way

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that I used to, my price structure. And my business coach, my business coach did not

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coach me into doing what it is that I'm doing. She was coaching me.

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to charge very high tickets, which I did for a while, and I got people in it.

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But there was something that wasn't quite settling with me, and it was because God had something different for me.

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In other words, it's all Spirit-led. So, what is it? Remember what Paul says.

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He says, everything is permissible, but not everything is ratified. In other words, it's all about the Source.

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It doesn't matter what we do, what matters is where it is that we're coming at it from.

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Do we feel that we're in fear, and that's why we're making the decision?

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Or do we understand, not just understand, but we've actually positioned our heart, our intention,

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we've risked our very lives, like internally, emotionally, our souls,

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we've risked our very essence to do this, but we are on God, and believe that He's going to protect and provide for us,

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and then we make our decisions from that place.

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So, people can make the exact same decision, but be coming at it from two different places.

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So, if God wants you to do what it is that you're doing, like say, for instance, charge $4,000, like I used to.

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Charge $4,000, but you're coming at it from the tree, feeling like, oh my goodness, I'm scared, I feel like I need $4,000.

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Well, then you believe that $4,000 or that charging money is your source, and that's how you're going to be provided for,

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then that's operating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

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Not charging $4,000, it's all a heart issue, it's all the attitude.

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As opposed to God's being like, no, I really did want you to charge $4,000, but I want you to do it out of relationship,

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knowing that I will bring clients that can pay $4,000, and then the clients that can't pay $4,000,

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those, by the way, are the clients I don't want you to take.

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So, it's all attitude and a heart, so you don't have to worry about...

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My point in saying all of that is it always comes back to the source,

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and we don't ever have to worry about the actions as being a good or bad thing,

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which I know you're not, because you talked about the fact that, well, no, I understand it's the attitude.

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I just wanted to mention that, though, before I went on to the next thing,

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and that is the fact that because what I said is true,

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it's important that we put our own oxygen mask on first and understand that,

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okay, in order for me to be able to know what I should charge,

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should it be $4,000, should it be $200, I don't know.

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We have to go, we have to stop looking at money,

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and we have to start looking at and start risking our, by money I mean like,

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well, we have money in our position, a specific dollar amount or whatever,

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and say, okay, God, this goes further back than the money.

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This goes further back than the business.

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This goes to the fact that I don't feel like, I feel like you're always,

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that you're looking at me, expecting me to make something worse,

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or you are, you gave me a talent, and I'm not,

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and I'm trying to make sure you use it, or you gave me a story that's got to be heard,

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or you gave me whatever.

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We've got to go all the way back to that, and if you choose to release yourself,

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it all goes down to release.

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So part of the struggle here is, you know, like, oh, well, I don't know about this,

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and I fear that it's this.

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It's all of this struggle, and that kind of a struggle is resistance.

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So we have to start struggling.

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We have to stop resisting.

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As soon as we just let it go, clarity comes.

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We shift into rest.

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You know, we intentionally choose that.

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God's our guide.

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We shift into rest first.

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Then you'll get your answer instead of just trying to figure out the answer.

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It's letting, it's even letting go your ownership of the fact that you have to have an answer.

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I mean, because that's what our resistance does.

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And so as soon as I started, when I was questioning the Lord about what I should charge,

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I was struggling so much.

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I said, Lord, I just want to do your will.

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Do you want $4,000, or do you want $200?

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I mean, I don't know.

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I'll do anything you want.

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Just tell me.

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And the longer that I pushed, and I strained, and I struggled,

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the more elusive that the dadgum answer got.

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And so finally I had to release my ownership of the fact that I had to have an answer from him.

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I stopped holding him accountable.

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for giving me an answer and just let him be who he was and just enjoy him and I'm like hey Laurie, I'm yours and I had to intentionally choose that.

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Intentionally choosing to rest in you, intentionally choosing that I enjoy you for who it is that you are, I seek you for who it is that you are.

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And then from that place I no longer felt afraid.

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I shifted into rest because I no longer felt like I had to provide for myself with money, business or whatever.

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I no longer felt God, you know, was ahead of me.

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I was just enjoying him. I was releasing everything.

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And God's like okay, now that you've released yourself to me, here's your answer.

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Here's how much I want you to charge.

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Here's the exact dollar amount.

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And then you'll know in your spirit, here's why.

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Does that make sense?

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So it's actually the opposite of what we think.

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We think we'll get an answer by pressing in harder and harder and harder and it's the opposite.

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We let it go.

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Because that's where some of our fear is manifesting.

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Is our straining after it and our desperateness and our aggravation and struggle that we can't, that the answer's elusive.

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Even when we make it sound godly and we're like oh, I'm just working on myself and I know that the problem's me and I'm trying to figure me out.

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Even that is, we're still straining and struggling and striving.

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It goes pretty deep.

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No, it does.

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I'm just wondering, I don't know if, do you have like earbuds in or I'm getting like a lot of background noise so it's really hard to hear.

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I don't know if it's possible.

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Or like is a window open or something?

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No.

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Oh.

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Is that better or not?

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I think so.

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What did you do?

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I turned the, I just now realized the microphone is right over the air vent so I tried to turn the air vent off.

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Is that worse or not?

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That's a bit better, yeah.

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We'll stick with that for a bit and see how it works.

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I just don't want to miss, I don't want to miss what you're saying.

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I know.

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Well, I tried to find my earbuds too before we got on the call.

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I don't know where I have them.

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So I'll try to look for them.

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So did you hear what I said or?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So, yeah, totally.

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I did kind of make it out.

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Okay.

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So, so where I'm, what I'm like thinking when you're talking is that.

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I created this whole program out of a place of.

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My own healing and what God,

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the journey he took me through and everything. So.

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When it comes to charging more money.

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I, I feel guilty because I want to serve everybody.

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And I don't need the money.

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Like, we've, we've got enough to make do we can.

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I'm not, I'm not in lack. I've always had enough money. I've never.

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Ben necessarily in the overflow, but I've always had enough.

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And so I'm like, okay, God's blessed me with enough.

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So I want to bless other people who need it.

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And so it's more of a.

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But like, I know.

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My mission,

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my mission field could be separate from my business.

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Like my business could be my business.

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I could have my tithes and offerings and giving.

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Going to a different place. Like, I,

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I almost need to disassociate the two.

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Because I'm making them one in the same.

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I'm making my business the same as where I give my tithes and

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offerings.

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Which.

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Oh, wait, wait, where you give it.

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Well, so it's like.

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I don't know how to explain it, but it's kind of like,

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It's like I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm.

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I'm giving money and tithes and offerings.

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To my business.

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When I'm giving people discounts.

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field using it as the way I give back instead of looking at it as if I make

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more money I can give 10% to my church as usual and then I can give money

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elsewhere as well or gifts elsewhere as well it might you know what I mean so

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I'm I'm kind of like wondering if it's a problem of me not separating out the two

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and making my business my business and making that a place where I derive

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income and then making my tithes offerings giving all of that separate

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in a place of you know not associated with my business necessarily you know

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what I mean but because I look at my business as my mission field as the

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place where God wants me to give back I'm not I'm not like disassociating the

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two okay can you hear me oh that's much better yeah my air conditioner has been

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going and I've been acting like it's going in and out and so I've had to

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speak to it today and then it'll get cool and then I'll decide to go out

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again I'll speak to it again I love it I'm practicing so speaking to creation

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having dominion remember that Amy was doing that you know she was talking to

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oh I don't know if you joined the rest of the time she was yeah she was yeah

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she was talking about talking to her okay so so glad that this works and

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that's good to know that this is better I have an air have air pods but we're

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not currently charged okay so sorry the last thing that you said it's kind of

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like I'm I'm trying to disassociate my business from my tithes and offerings

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because I'm associating that yes okay well for one thing remember that we

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don't have to worry about separating things like our business from you know

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from our ministry from our whatever because to God it's all one in the same

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it's our spirit flowing into the earth and it just flows into the earth in

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different ways flows through business flows through marriage flows through

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finance flows to ministry whatever so honestly it always really bothers me

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when people talk about ministry as being something different I'm not saying that

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bad it's just that our association with the idea of ministry is that it's like

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this separate spiritual thing and everything else is unspiritual I'm not

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saying that's what you're saying I'm just I'm just walking you through my

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mental process at this oh I think that sorry let me check that feed here okay

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didn't want to be speeding so okay so I'm good

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now it wants me to go somewhere let me see where I'm supposed to go okay well

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I know just just to address what you just said like it's not that I look at

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it as bad like I've always wanted to associate my business with my ministry

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problem I'm having the problem I'm having is that I'm struggling to charge

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money for it because I think it should be my mission field and I should not be

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making money at it yes yes okay yes so here's here's the thing though that

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that's kind of my point is if there's if there's no separation then there

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should be no concern of like well I do this type of thing with money in

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ministry but I don't do this type of thing with money in business it's one in

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the same so you can do the same thing with minute it was money that you in

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ministry that you can in business because there's no difference ministry

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is the way in which we operate in life where our spirit flows out of us so that

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business is not secular business is God given and you can run your business

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however you want you can do your you can do your or you can do discounts in your

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business to give people I mean even secular people even non-christians I do

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that with their business they give charity they get a discount they do

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whatever they want especially for small mom-and-pop places they do give away all

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kinds of stuff for free you know free services free whatever and we're talking

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big like full-on hey you know sir it's this $500 charge is completely on us you

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know I mean they do stuff like that so

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And my point is that you don't have to have to worry that, that it has to be different.

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And, and I know that you want to just please that you want to please the Lord but that's, that's my point is it.

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It's much deeper than money, it's going all the way back to is the Lord, is the Lord pleased with me with how it is that I am.

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And therefore, together, because it's pleased me because we operate in life together. This is how we want to charge, as opposed to God what do you want me to do for me to charge like this or not charge like this because this is good, this is bad.

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Trying to figure out how to say.

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So, you can, you can get discounts you can get stuff for free the first people that join the rest intensive. God told me give it to all of them for free. The first five people.

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Those are the, those are the people in April.

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And, and so, so I did.

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And, and anyway, and so, and I had no idea about after that how it's going to price structure everything all I knew is I said hey, give it free to all of these people like, Okay, then Lord, I'm, I'm choosing therefore that you will then provide

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financially, because you told me to give it to all these people for free and so I'm choosing that you're my provision, not my business. So therefore I will do whatever in my business that you told me to do because that's just me living.

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It's not me ministering, it's not me doing something spiritual. It's me and you operating together in life, and we do that, whether I'm going to the grocery store, or whether I'm in business with that.

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Am I answering your question.

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Um, you're asking.

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I think, I think my main question is, how can I justify charging hundreds of dollars a month for my program.

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Like, yeah, I can't, because right now.

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Like when when you're telling me this stuff about how you do it this is what's this is what's kind of messing with me a little bit is that part of me feels like I should do it the way you do it and the other part of me wants to quit my full time job as a teacher,

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and I just want to do this and make money at this because I love it and I want to be able to do it full time so.

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And I can't do that if I'm not making the money so but I can't justify charging.

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So we can't do that money's the provision.

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Does that make sense. It's like, well, I can't. Okay, so, you know, thought I can't quit my job and do what I want to do because I have to make money in order to be able to do that.

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The money is the provision in God's like no on the provision.

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It's that it's that it's that foundational it's that mind blowing, it's that different.

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But I get that but so I don't know if like we're connecting properly on this because I feel like I'm trying to understand how I can actually justify charging money for my program because I want to be able to quit my job so.

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So, can we talk about it that way like how, how would I be able to actually say it's okay for me to charge hundreds of dollars, like, I want to quit my job.

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If I don't, if I don't make money like I'm a I make good money teaching if I worked full time I'd make six figures, and that provides it like the income for our house to function for my husband for our daughter like.

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And you know what I could go quit my job but my husband's going to be very angry with me. And I like I could quit my job but I'd have to make money somewhere because the money pays for things.

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So, I'm trying to figure out how I can justify charging money because I think I should be not from a place of somebody else saying it but I believe that I should be compensated for my time.

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And, you know, I pour I'm going to be pouring a ton into these people so I do think it's important that I'm compensated, but yet I keep swaying toward.

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I should just do what you do and like people can pay whatever they want but if people do that, they're like it's not gonna, it's not going to have the same result of me like wanting to quit my job because I'm able to bring in the income somewhere

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So, like I don't want to be teaching anymore I want to do this full time.

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But yet, I can't justify making money on it so this is where I'm

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struggling, like, I don't really know how to make sense of it.

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And then, I think, I don't, I don't know if I quite understand

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exactly how you're explaining it, like, how, how can I justify

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charging money for it?

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Um, okay, so, um, let's go. Okay, let's come at it from a

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different, let's come at it from a different, let's just, um,

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when, so, your, so, money with, who was I talking to about this?

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I'm trying to remember, so it could help remind me of our

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conversation. But the, the, your, maybe it was Lori, maybe

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it was on that call, the community call, that, that your

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money, the money that you're charging is, or so to speak, the

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money that they're paying is not in exchange, necessarily from

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rest. I'm not talking about from, from the world system,

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because I don't teach that way anymore. It's rest intensive. So

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that's why this is the answer you're going to get. If you want

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a different answer, it goes around, because the other

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answer is not wrong. I just don't teach that, that. But

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okay, so let me, let me tell you how I used to teach. You used to

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teach, again, not from the tree of the knowledge of good and

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evil. You can do that. And that's perfectly, that's

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perfectly fine. If that is what I used to do, that is under from

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the perspective that, okay, I have to have the money. So

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therefore, if I'm going to put in this amount of time and this

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amount of effort, I need this amount in return, if you're

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looking for an X, an equal exchange, then what you to what

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you traditionally do is and this is what I used to train on, then

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what you do is you figure out, okay, what, what amount of

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money would equal that amount of time, effort, energy that you're

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going to pour in? What would help in the eye in the mind of

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the customer create a sense of the value that they would be

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receiving? And I don't mean necessarily the value and

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actually what you put in, it's the value of the church. Is that

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change to that? Is that a 4000? Is it is is that how much their

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life will change? Is it worth $4,000? Is it worth whatever?

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And typically, what you do is something like this, like trauma

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or whatever you think, okay, it's worth this amount of money

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or say it's priceless, but whatever, like say it's worth

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$10,000. Normally, what you would do is if it's worth 10,000,

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you charge a formula for it would be you charge 1000. Some

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people go by the rule of thumb that you charge a 10th of the

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value that they will receive out of it, but understand that that

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is going at it from an exchange. This is this is what

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they're, they are paying for something they are getting. So

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if you're wanting that answer, there's that answer. But from

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rest, it's from

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this is how I'm interacting with her that that person is coming

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into is something that they do in order to to determine it that

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they give in order to identify for themselves how much that

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thing is going to mean to them. So I suppose either way, it kind

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of works out. It sounds the same, but it's different. You're

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coming at it from a different source. One is spirit. But

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anyway, it goes back to the client, not not you. It's not.

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So therefore, everything is on the client, you don't have to

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feel the burden of I feel bad, charging for someone else's

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healing, charging them for something that they should have

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a right to, as the Son of God charging them to allow them to

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giving them an opportunity to heal from an abuse that they

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receive.

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See that just doesn't feel right. No, the money is then putting not skin in the game

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But money from again from a place of rest is the client's way at first

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Choosing to step out and take action on there on making their own shift because you can't shift them it if they can't shift

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In that way, then they're not going to be able to do the other stuff

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Which is what I talked about because the money is the easier thing

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Because it's easier to do money than it is to face

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Oneself and to do what one has to do and to change myself and all of that because they have to face their emotions

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So which is what we talked about on the call and is so what are your thoughts so far?

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Yeah, no, this is great this I feel like we're on the same page now

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Yeah, no, I feel I apologize

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I just kind of felt like I felt like what I was thinking and I think what maybe I was

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Communicating wasn't coming across in the way that I meant for it, too. So I apologize

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Yeah, so basically

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If we were to take the so I know you're not gonna say anything's right or wrong

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But would you agree with the statement like if I'm truly living in the spirit and truly living at rest?

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I would let people decide what they're going to invest

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No, because that it's all your source. You can do whatever you want

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Like for instance for instance the conference that I'm going to I am going with a friend

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Who doesn't charge for any of his conferences?

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but

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The guy who's going to be speaking at the conference is

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one of his best friends and he charges a lot for his conferences and

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Even my and my friend will stand up for his friends and say hey look

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You know, everyone is

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responsible with with how as a king of God for how he

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rules and how he has dominion and how he manifests heaven into earth and

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He said it's there's nothing wrong

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With charging money money isn't bad

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We've been made by the world

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Bill and I's money and made it like this thing that provides form protects that kind of like if it's like a

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Loaf of bread in front of a hungry child and that take in that charging money is

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The equivalent of taking the bread away from somebody who's who's?

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Hungry and has no way of feeding themselves

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Otherwise and you just took away their means of feeding themselves that mean it's abusive and that is not true

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People do not have to but for instance

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You are

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Not how do I put?

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right word that

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God will

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Heal someone and work with him

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With or without

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You will God will not allow you and how much you charge

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Keep someone from receiving their healing

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Even with working with you who's going to be the biggest

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Obstacle to their healing. It's the same obstacle that they're dealing with before they hire you and that's them

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You are not in their way

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Your money and how much you charge is not in their way

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They are in their way and

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And so it however

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They God

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prompts you to accept someone and to lower the price or give them a discount and you don't

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Well at the end, you know, that's between you Lord, but I'm not but I would admit that usually people who are very

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very

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Sensitive to this spirit are not likely to miss the Lord like

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It's because their relationship with the Lord is such that they're very

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That they're that they're that they recognize it really quickly. Oh, by the way, I apologize. Am I talking too loud?

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No, of course. No, no

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I don't talk this forcefully, you know, but I'm in a car where it's very loud and

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Let me

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Loud and I'm always thinking that people can't hear me. So in the car, I think that my a

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fight

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personality that

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Had to like deal with

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That had to deal with a very strong man in corporate situations

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It's down. It can I have to put that voice on and I'm not meaning to I promise

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I really do promise my attitude my heart, you know my attitude my heart. I'm just trying to talk over my car

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No, it's a you're perfect. I can always I can

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always turn you down if I need to but I haven't needed to and you know and I want to I just want

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to touch on something for a second so before when I was asking you about like help me understand how

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I can justify actually charging because yeah I can justify and justify and justify charging nothing

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I can justify charging whatever they can pay like all of that I can understand I can justify that

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because I get it and it makes sense and so I'm looking at like the pendulum swinging because

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what I don't have is enough evidence for the other side to be able to kind of make sense of it myself

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like I've prayed about it I've asked God I don't know what the answer is so I'm like okay if I

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understand why it's okay to charge money and then mixed with my feeling that I shouldn't charge

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anything or just a little bit then I'll feel like a little bit more balanced you know what I mean

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okay so I'm sorry you said you you're not understanding the other side what's the other

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side yeah no no no I am now more like you've been talking I just mean from before like that's what

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I was kind of getting at when okay um but what you're saying to me right now is helping me with

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the other side so that I can kind of just be able to discern better because I feel like right now

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my own programming is getting in the way of like my own thinking is getting in the way of what God's

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trying to say oh yeah yes yeah well it yeah it it always is I mean that's always the case that's why

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I always talk about we have to put on our own oxygen masks first it's always our beliefs from

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which we frame our worlds our actions how we hear God if we believe we can't hear God you know whether

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we're muting God because we feel that you know uh we feel that there is something that we have to

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do to engage with in order to be able to hear him that belief hinders us from being able to hear him

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it's so funny usually very interesting point to make because it was something I was thinking about

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while while you were talking and I was going to mention this in case it's helpful but but the more

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the the long the more we try to not do something the more likely we are to do it kind of and then

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and people talk about uh and then the more likely we are to manifest it so say for instance and

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people that uh that worry a lot they're trying to avoid trouble

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00:37:42.320 --> 00:37:50.960
and I watch this person and people I know that the people that worry the most and constantly

431
00:37:50.960 --> 00:37:58.480
are trying to be the most risk averse end up manifesting the the worst uh and the most

432
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:04.240
tight struggles in their lives and so we would think the opposite or the most the strong the

433
00:38:04.240 --> 00:38:09.760
long the harder that someone tries to not be like their mom or their dad the more likely they are to

434
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:16.400
become their mom or their dad yeah whatever it is that we try to do so in other words my point is

435
00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:22.960
that the more we try to get an answer or the more we try to uh not be a particular way or the more

436
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:30.960
we try to avoid displeasing God the more we try to do the right thing the harder that it makes us

437
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:36.320
for us to actually do it we actually end up resisting the very thing we're trying to get

438
00:38:36.320 --> 00:38:41.040
and we end up manifesting the thing we're trying to run away from because whatever it is we focus

439
00:38:41.040 --> 00:38:48.720
on we we create more of yeah so it's a way to help us get out of like these cycles of like

440
00:38:48.720 --> 00:38:54.960
trying to get an answer well why am I confused the more that we stop and the less that we do

441
00:38:54.960 --> 00:39:02.480
and the more that we let go of the the clearer that things come it's really wild yeah no I I

442
00:39:02.480 --> 00:39:09.360
definitely agree with you and I think I don't know why I process things the way that I do exactly but

443
00:39:10.080 --> 00:39:16.560
I feel like if I can at least on some level understand a little more about why it

444
00:39:16.560 --> 00:39:21.680
like I it's literally like I need the information at the moment to be able to understand

445
00:39:22.800 --> 00:39:29.920
what what would be okay about charging money so what you just said about you know your two

446
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:34.640
friends the one or the one friend who doesn't charge anything and the other friend who charges

447
00:39:34.640 --> 00:39:41.200
a lot and it's like I get it's not about the amount of money but I'm trying to reconcile

448
00:39:41.200 --> 00:39:46.640
it in my spirit so that I can understand like that God would even be okay with me charging any money

449
00:39:48.720 --> 00:39:52.000
yes so that comes from

450
00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:56.080
well it comes from a lot of things

451
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:08.240
so that was where I was going before so what I did is uh sorry just one second

452
00:40:08.240 --> 00:40:14.320
um if I've arrived is the gear on you it's because I keep checking my my map yeah no

453
00:40:14.320 --> 00:40:18.960
we're I think I think I'm in Greensboro and so I'm like I've got to make sure I know where I'm going

454
00:40:19.600 --> 00:40:25.840
so uh anyway um are you okay if you don't if you don't see me and I just follow my map for just a

455
00:40:25.840 --> 00:40:31.120
little bit because I literally am now in town and like having to follow it yeah no problem okay

456
00:40:31.120 --> 00:40:35.920
sorry about that okay so what I was saying earlier um about the whole you know because

457
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:41.360
you're talking about you know money mindset and how it's not okay with me actually charging money

458
00:40:41.360 --> 00:40:53.920
etc um is I got okay with money when I realized that money was not when money lost its power in

459
00:40:53.920 --> 00:41:02.800
my world and it lost its power when it didn't when it no longer it no longer provided for me

460
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:09.440
and God provided for me and that's what I was talking about earlier and I had jumped right to

461
00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:16.640
it I'm sorry if I created confusion by going to the deeper root issue but this is the root issue

462
00:41:16.640 --> 00:41:23.440
of it and that is the like a money mindset and this is what changed my mindset about money

463
00:41:24.000 --> 00:41:32.080
because nothing else did it things started to like when I I worked with my high ticket coach

464
00:41:32.640 --> 00:41:37.680
um um and he was trying to shift my perspective on money because I was like hey I don't understand

465
00:41:37.680 --> 00:41:42.640
how I can charge so much money I'm just trying to help people surely I should just charge like

466
00:41:42.640 --> 00:41:47.760
100 or maybe I should give it away for free or whatever so he worked on my mindset as well

467
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:57.680
but even he didn't get me to where God got me and that is the fact that when I realized okay

468
00:41:57.680 --> 00:42:09.120
money does not provide for me God does I finally uh I finally uh money no longer bothers me so much

469
00:42:09.120 --> 00:42:17.120
you would be shocked and um you would be shocked about how many times I have been down to

470
00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:25.840
uh almost zero um and and actually yeah I mean like pretty wild I did tell you about this story

471
00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:31.040
didn't I the last time six dollars fifty four cents I think I told you that on Marco Polo right

472
00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:37.840
I think so yeah you cut out for a second was it two dollars I mean that was just one example

473
00:42:38.400 --> 00:42:43.760
six dollars and fifty four cents no I don't think you did tell me about that I think you I heard

474
00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:47.120
two dollars I thought you were talking about something else so what was it about this one

475
00:42:47.120 --> 00:42:52.320
I don't think you told me where I was down to six dollars and fifty four cents one time

476
00:42:52.880 --> 00:43:00.480
and uh and I had just uh I had just committed to um something to a whole bunch of clients

477
00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:04.800
that I was going to do something for them and then it was going to end we were going to interact

478
00:43:04.800 --> 00:43:11.200
together and it was going to be whatever well uh uh that was my last day of my internet and

479
00:43:11.200 --> 00:43:17.200
I needed seventy dollars to continue my internet because with the amount of data that I go through

480
00:43:17.200 --> 00:43:24.800
it would shock you um and uh so I have unlimited I have unlimited uh data on the internet that's

481
00:43:24.800 --> 00:43:30.320
how in order to function at the level that I do you know with my business that's what I needed so

482
00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:35.600
I lay down I just completely left so now that I've gotten further in my story

483
00:43:36.160 --> 00:43:42.560
is it still not familiar no you haven't told me this story okay I just wanted to make sure so that

484
00:43:42.560 --> 00:43:45.520
you wouldn't have to like sit and listen to the whole thing and be like at the end you're like

485
00:43:45.520 --> 00:43:54.640
yeah so you told me now okay I would I would just tell you okay good good so I uh uh I like I left

486
00:43:54.640 --> 00:43:59.280
my work I was feeling very stressed as you can imagine I was feeling all the stress and anxiety

487
00:43:59.360 --> 00:44:04.480
come up I literally had six dollars and fifty four cents is it you have to understand no credit

488
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:11.280
cards six dollars and fifty four cents this was earlier this year I didn't tell a human soul so

489
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:18.240
I lay down on my bed and I told the lord like okay lord um I know that you tell me that you're

490
00:44:18.240 --> 00:44:24.400
my provision and that you love me and that you're good to me I do thank god I'll be honest it's not

491
00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:30.480
something that I understand and but you know I'm choosing this I'm choosing that if you say this is

492
00:44:30.480 --> 00:44:35.040
who you are I'm choosing that that in my world this is who you are and this is how you will

493
00:44:35.040 --> 00:44:41.200
manifest so therefore you know I'm just I'm just asking you very gently of what would you like to

494
00:44:41.200 --> 00:44:45.600
do this is my situation you already know my situation but I'm just going to tell you you

495
00:44:45.600 --> 00:44:51.680
know that you know I've told all the clients I'm going to do this and I this is the last of my day

496
00:44:51.680 --> 00:44:58.240
of my internet and I owe 70 dollars or if I want to have it the rest of the month you know what or

497
00:44:58.240 --> 00:44:59.840
for the next month what what should

498
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.040
I do, what would you like to do?

499
00:45:02.040 --> 00:45:04.400
And then he reminded me, he said, Ashley,

500
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:08.520
have your parents paid you your birthday money yet?

501
00:45:08.520 --> 00:45:11.920
Like, oh, well, I think so, but I don't know.

502
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:14.520
So I checked, sure enough, I couldn't find it,

503
00:45:14.520 --> 00:45:16.040
so I called my mom and she said,

504
00:45:16.040 --> 00:45:17.640
no, Ashley, I haven't paid you that yet

505
00:45:17.640 --> 00:45:20.480
because I wanted to make sure that, you know,

506
00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:22.240
you were good with it and everything was okay.

507
00:45:22.240 --> 00:45:24.000
Do you want me to go ahead and transfer it

508
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:25.720
into your bank account now?

509
00:45:25.720 --> 00:45:28.280
And I said, oh yeah, sure, yeah, no, it'd be good.

510
00:45:28.320 --> 00:45:31.920
Well, they paid me $75 for my birthday.

511
00:45:31.920 --> 00:45:36.280
So right then, immediately, I got $75.

512
00:45:36.280 --> 00:45:40.400
So that paid for my internet.

513
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:44.600
And so it's like, okay, Lord, I got it.

514
00:45:44.600 --> 00:45:47.440
And then, I mean, because otherwise, I mean,

515
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:51.600
see, we look at that situation on this side of things.

516
00:45:51.600 --> 00:45:55.040
We're like, oh, yeah, see, you know, it was just so easy.

517
00:45:55.080 --> 00:46:00.080
But in the situation, I had no idea where I could get money.

518
00:46:00.480 --> 00:46:01.400
No clue.

519
00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:03.360
I was like, Lord, I don't know,

520
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:06.960
other than like asking for charity, what do I do?

521
00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:10.600
And the Lord reminded me of something very odd.

522
00:46:10.600 --> 00:46:13.840
That was, Ashley, did your parents give you the birthday,

523
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:14.680
your birthday money?

524
00:46:14.680 --> 00:46:16.320
Because they were gonna give it to me early.

525
00:46:16.320 --> 00:46:18.800
My birthday wasn't for months.

526
00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:21.960
So anyway, so there was that.

527
00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:23.200
And then a couple of days later,

528
00:46:23.200 --> 00:46:25.240
I had multiple things up on Facebook.

529
00:46:25.240 --> 00:46:28.000
And I do mean a gob of things on Facebook.

530
00:46:29.280 --> 00:46:30.760
Let me hear.

531
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:32.280
I had a gob of things on Facebook.

532
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:33.280
Can you see me?

533
00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:34.440
Yep.

534
00:46:34.440 --> 00:46:35.280
And, whoops.

535
00:46:36.400 --> 00:46:38.000
And they were not moving.

536
00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:39.480
And nobody was biting, nothing.

537
00:46:39.480 --> 00:46:40.920
And I told God, I said, hey, God,

538
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:42.480
you know, I need to go to the grocery store

539
00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:44.040
and get some groceries.

540
00:46:44.040 --> 00:46:46.840
And you know that I only now, since I paid for my internet,

541
00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:51.280
I now have $9 and something in my account.

542
00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:54.440
And what would you like me to do?

543
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:57.320
So I asked him, I said, would you please bring,

544
00:46:57.320 --> 00:46:59.880
this is like the next day or the day after,

545
00:46:59.880 --> 00:47:00.960
I think it's probably the next day.

546
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:02.600
And I told him, I said, you know,

547
00:47:02.600 --> 00:47:03.640
what would you like to do?

548
00:47:03.640 --> 00:47:07.800
And he immediately brought someone in

549
00:47:07.800 --> 00:47:12.320
to purchase multiple things.

550
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:14.680
And it was $17.

551
00:47:14.680 --> 00:47:18.080
I was able to finish everything out within a few hours,

552
00:47:18.080 --> 00:47:20.520
go drop it off, collect the $17.

553
00:47:20.960 --> 00:47:23.080
All from rest, I was like, okay.

554
00:47:23.080 --> 00:47:25.720
I just, because I knew, Ashley, you can't strive for this.

555
00:47:25.720 --> 00:47:26.560
You can't get anxious.

556
00:47:26.560 --> 00:47:27.840
You can't worry.

557
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:28.720
Take it all in stride.

558
00:47:28.720 --> 00:47:30.440
God's providing, it's all okay.

559
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:31.280
Act like it.

560
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:33.040
If I can't act like it,

561
00:47:33.040 --> 00:47:34.960
I'm going to be very calm about this whole thing.

562
00:47:34.960 --> 00:47:36.640
And I'm not going to stress, I'm not going to worry.

563
00:47:36.640 --> 00:47:38.640
I'm just going to act like I have a million dollars

564
00:47:38.640 --> 00:47:39.480
in the bank.

565
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:41.760
So I went, collected the money,

566
00:47:41.760 --> 00:47:43.200
went to the grocery store,

567
00:47:43.200 --> 00:47:45.760
and then I got, I went through

568
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:47.480
and I didn't calculate anything.

569
00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:49.160
I just got what I would normally have gotten

570
00:47:49.160 --> 00:47:50.240
at that grocery store.

571
00:47:50.920 --> 00:47:52.040
I even got something that I thought,

572
00:47:52.040 --> 00:47:53.360
I don't know if I should get this

573
00:47:53.360 --> 00:47:54.400
because I don't really need it.

574
00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:56.480
I thought, Ashley, is your God that good?

575
00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:59.320
And so I, it was the milk.

576
00:47:59.320 --> 00:48:02.520
And so I told God, I said, God, I don't need this,

577
00:48:02.520 --> 00:48:03.880
but I believe you are so good

578
00:48:03.880 --> 00:48:06.360
that you would just give me milk just because I like it.

579
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:09.000
So I, this is me, God, choosing that you are this good.

580
00:48:09.000 --> 00:48:11.760
I literally said that as I reached in and I grabbed,

581
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:14.720
and I grabbed it because I'm having to tell my soul,

582
00:48:14.720 --> 00:48:16.520
so this is what you believe now.

583
00:48:16.520 --> 00:48:17.920
This is how you're acting.

584
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:19.320
So I put all this in the cart.

585
00:48:19.320 --> 00:48:21.840
I go up, I had just been given $17.

586
00:48:21.840 --> 00:48:22.760
I ring it all up.

587
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:26.160
I forced myself to not look as the total was adding up

588
00:48:26.160 --> 00:48:28.520
because I had forced myself to not calculate

589
00:48:28.520 --> 00:48:30.960
and add up all of these products and how much they were.

590
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:32.920
And I finally looked at the end total

591
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:36.920
and it was $17 and like 56 cents or something like that.

592
00:48:36.920 --> 00:48:41.000
So God was showing me, Ashley, I provide, I provide.

593
00:48:41.000 --> 00:48:43.280
And so since then, what he's done,

594
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:45.880
he has like, I asked him not,

595
00:48:45.880 --> 00:48:49.160
I asked him at some point sometime after that,

596
00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:50.960
Lord, okay, Lord, you've been showing me

597
00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:53.000
how you come through in the 11th hour.

598
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:56.840
I'd like to see you, what it looks like,

599
00:48:56.840 --> 00:48:57.840
because I know that you say

600
00:48:57.840 --> 00:48:59.760
your character operates in abundance.

601
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:04.640
I would like to see you come through abundantly.

602
00:49:04.640 --> 00:49:08.360
So, excuse me, I don't remember what it is that I needed.

603
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:11.040
I needed money for something,

604
00:49:11.040 --> 00:49:13.320
but it was probably just a few.

605
00:49:13.320 --> 00:49:14.600
I don't remember how much it was,

606
00:49:14.600 --> 00:49:16.520
but I needed just something.

607
00:49:16.560 --> 00:49:21.400
And well, he like multiplied it by at least,

608
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:23.800
I think he multiplied it by 10 times,

609
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:27.000
what it either five or 10 times what it is that I needed.

610
00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:28.960
And I didn't need a small amount.

611
00:49:28.960 --> 00:49:33.560
And I never had that much money that had come in.

612
00:49:33.560 --> 00:49:38.560
And boom, it came in from out of nowhere.

613
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:40.960
I mean, it was not a new client.

614
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:44.200
It came out from the middle of nowhere.

615
00:49:44.200 --> 00:49:45.720
In fact, I thought it was a mistake.

616
00:49:45.720 --> 00:49:47.960
So I contacted the person and said,

617
00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:51.600
just to clarify, I think that this wasn't intended for me.

618
00:49:51.600 --> 00:49:53.480
And they said, no, that is for you.

619
00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:54.680
And here's why.

620
00:49:54.680 --> 00:49:56.120
Here's what happened to us.

621
00:49:56.120 --> 00:49:57.720
We weren't expecting it.

622
00:49:57.720 --> 00:49:59.480
We wanted to bless you with it.

623
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:05.480
So I so it suddenly enabled me to not only pay for what it was that I was trying to pay for

624
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:10.120
but it also enabled me to to do things that I didn't that

625
00:50:11.080 --> 00:50:13.080
it to step out and

626
00:50:14.200 --> 00:50:15.400
prepare for

627
00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:21.160
Things that were coming in the future like in other words things that God's like hey, Ashley

628
00:50:21.160 --> 00:50:24.240
You're gonna need this and so as soon as I got the money

629
00:50:24.240 --> 00:50:28.800
I was like, oh you want me to get that now in order to have it for later

630
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:30.880
He could have had me do it in the 11th hour

631
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:32.880
But I had asked to see him

632
00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:40.160
Provide for me before the 11th hour and provide for me in abundance and then beyond that I had money left over

633
00:50:40.520 --> 00:50:45.320
So and then that's another thing I do money just can't mean anything to me

634
00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:49.280
So sometimes I'll get money and I will give away half of it

635
00:50:50.200 --> 00:50:54.120
And we just have of what I just got in because it doesn't matter

636
00:50:54.280 --> 00:51:00.440
It's good the more it's gonna come in and then it's gonna go out and then I'm gonna and it so my point is that

637
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:02.240
when I

638
00:51:02.240 --> 00:51:07.360
When I learned that I really true that God provides for me

639
00:51:07.680 --> 00:51:12.640
Money doesn't because so often people will gift me things. I have had

640
00:51:13.600 --> 00:51:21.640
thousands of dollars that people have gifted to me and not just money but goods and services just

641
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:27.440
Given I didn't ask for it. Hey, Ashley, would you like this? Hey, would you like this?

642
00:51:27.440 --> 00:51:31.520
Hey, would you like to stay here? And would you like to do this? And hey, we'd like to take you out

643
00:51:31.520 --> 00:51:37.280
We don't just like what anyway because I chose God you're my provider not God

644
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:40.800
You give me money and so he gives it to me in a variety ways

645
00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:47.200
and when I chose that he was my provider and money wasn't then it helped me take my

646
00:51:47.960 --> 00:51:49.960
hands off of money so now

647
00:51:50.520 --> 00:51:55.400
It can I I don't worry when my account gets down really really low

648
00:51:55.400 --> 00:52:00.360
I don't worry about what it is that I'm going to do not going to what am I gonna have money for not have many

649
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:07.080
For that's God's God's problem. I just rely on his character and that helps me make decisions about

650
00:52:08.160 --> 00:52:13.880
money because sons of God make money based on big money make decisions based on

651
00:52:14.640 --> 00:52:16.640
Not on money, but on will

652
00:52:17.640 --> 00:52:19.280
So

653
00:52:19.280 --> 00:52:23.080
But in order to do that, I had to make God my provision

654
00:52:23.200 --> 00:52:30.120
Not say that God provides me money because then it makes money my provision and when I realized money wasn't my provision

655
00:52:30.120 --> 00:52:35.680
I stopped it loses its power. So therefore it doesn't bother me when you know when people

656
00:52:37.160 --> 00:52:43.520
If some people have paid five thousand to get in the group some people have paid two dollars and twenty two cents

657
00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:46.400
But and they've paid everything in between

658
00:52:47.880 --> 00:52:49.360
It doesn't matter

659
00:52:49.360 --> 00:52:56.080
It that money means something to them. My God provides provides for me and he provides for me without money. So

660
00:52:56.880 --> 00:53:00.800
That's what I'm talking about. That's the money mindset issue. It's not

661
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:07.720
Okay, how do we appropriately see money? It's that no. No money isn't our provision at all

662
00:53:08.720 --> 00:53:15.880
God's the provision. God's not the provider of money. That's the provision and he can give without money

663
00:53:18.080 --> 00:53:19.720
Right that

664
00:53:19.720 --> 00:53:26.280
That's what I was referencing earlier. It's like they're really really deep issue of this question

665
00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:31.920
But I'm sorry if I went too deep too fast and it sounded like I wasn't addressing your question because I realized I was I

666
00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:36.000
Was addressing it, but it didn't sound like it and so I thought you know

667
00:53:36.000 --> 00:53:42.520
I need to just address your question first and then eventually you asked this one once that one made sense. So sorry about that

668
00:53:42.720 --> 00:53:48.600
No, no, that's okay. I knew there was like, yeah. No, that's perfect. And I totally understand what you're saying there and I guess

669
00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:52.280
You know, I

670
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:57.960
God is definitely my protection and my provision. You're right. He doesn't he

671
00:53:58.720 --> 00:54:00.920
It's not that he provides me money

672
00:54:01.920 --> 00:54:06.080
He is just my provision in general so that definitely works

673
00:54:08.600 --> 00:54:12.080
So it's basically about kind of letting go of

674
00:54:13.840 --> 00:54:19.560
The any power money might have over me so like things like well

675
00:54:19.560 --> 00:54:22.400
I need money to be able to do this. I need money to be able to do that

676
00:54:22.720 --> 00:54:28.200
more like God will give me the opportunity to do those things and you know, I I

677
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:31.920
Really like yeah, or I really want to

678
00:54:34.920 --> 00:54:36.920
What else was I gonna say, um

679
00:54:37.640 --> 00:54:39.880
Like God will bring me the right clients

680
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:46.440
Like you said before no matter what I charge whatever I line up with him, whatever I feel he's saying to me

681
00:54:46.880 --> 00:54:52.200
He will bring me the right people and honestly, I'm not opposed to giving people

682
00:54:52.800 --> 00:54:56.520
Like if I if I decide on a price like let's say it's like, you know

683
00:54:56.520 --> 00:54:59.480
397 a month or something

684
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.000
I am not, which is what?

685
00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:05.200
Nothing.

686
00:55:05.200 --> 00:55:06.800
What did you say?

687
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:10.000
Nothing, because then I, no, no, no,

688
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:14.120
because it doesn't, it depends,

689
00:55:14.120 --> 00:55:16.920
and no, I was about to say something,

690
00:55:16.920 --> 00:55:19.320
but then I realized, no, because if I say that,

691
00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:23.000
but then if it's received in the,

692
00:55:23.000 --> 00:55:26.200
when you're in transition from shifting over here,

693
00:55:26.200 --> 00:55:29.400
it could sound, if you hear it from over here,

694
00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:31.320
it could sound totally different than the way I meant

695
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:33.800
to see it, when it meant it to be received,

696
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:36.360
and it would be very confusing, so nevermind.

697
00:55:36.360 --> 00:55:37.560
Go for it.

698
00:55:37.560 --> 00:55:40.800
If God tells, if you and God decide 399

699
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:42.400
is what you wanna do, then what?

700
00:55:47.040 --> 00:55:49.120
I would really love, though,

701
00:55:49.120 --> 00:55:52.200
for you to consider telling me,

702
00:55:52.200 --> 00:55:53.280
maybe not what you said,

703
00:55:53.280 --> 00:55:54.960
but the meaning behind what you said,

704
00:55:54.960 --> 00:55:57.640
because I'd really like to understand

705
00:55:57.640 --> 00:56:00.280
what was going on in you at the time

706
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:01.480
that you said whatever you said,

707
00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:02.960
even if you don't tell me what it was,

708
00:56:02.960 --> 00:56:04.520
maybe the spirit behind it.

709
00:56:05.960 --> 00:56:06.840
Spirit behind it?

710
00:56:09.160 --> 00:56:10.680
Oh, behind what I was saying, okay,

711
00:56:10.680 --> 00:56:15.680
so I was about to make a comment about the amount,

712
00:56:21.600 --> 00:56:25.880
because I thought the amount still meant something

713
00:56:25.880 --> 00:56:27.240
to you in your world.

714
00:56:28.640 --> 00:56:31.760
And so I was going to address it from that,

715
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:35.800
and then I realized, no, I don't need to answer

716
00:56:35.800 --> 00:56:40.280
your question, assuming you're still coming at it

717
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:42.640
from this perspective.

718
00:56:42.640 --> 00:56:46.320
I needed to give you an opportunity to come at it

719
00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:50.240
from this perspective first, and then whatever dollar,

720
00:56:50.240 --> 00:56:52.360
whatever I would have said about that amount

721
00:56:52.360 --> 00:56:56.040
would be received as meaning something different.

722
00:56:57.040 --> 00:57:00.200
Does that, so anyway, that's what I was concerned about,

723
00:57:00.200 --> 00:57:02.000
and I realized, oh, wow, Ashley,

724
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:05.600
that don't address it thinking that this is how she thinks,

725
00:57:05.600 --> 00:57:07.520
because I was making an assumption

726
00:57:07.520 --> 00:57:10.360
of how you would receive it, which is wrong.

727
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:11.720
So anyway.

728
00:57:11.720 --> 00:57:14.080
How did you think I might receive it?

729
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:20.840
That the amount matters.

730
00:57:21.040 --> 00:57:24.320
In other words, that you still can't charge money,

731
00:57:24.360 --> 00:57:26.520
that you're still struggling with charging money

732
00:57:26.520 --> 00:57:27.760
for what it is you do.

733
00:57:27.760 --> 00:57:29.400
I wanted to give you an opportunity

734
00:57:29.400 --> 00:57:31.800
to get away from the conversation process,

735
00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:35.480
what you believe about money.

736
00:57:35.480 --> 00:57:38.720
And I would felt mentioning it would confuse it

737
00:57:38.720 --> 00:57:41.520
when you're still not sure what you think.

738
00:57:41.520 --> 00:57:42.480
Does that make sense?

739
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:43.320
Yeah.

740
00:57:43.320 --> 00:57:45.760
That's why, I was, because it was like,

741
00:57:45.760 --> 00:57:46.720
Ashley, why are you talking about it?

742
00:57:46.720 --> 00:57:49.320
You're just trying to give her an opportunity

743
00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:51.200
to process the whole mindset.

744
00:57:51.200 --> 00:57:54.160
Why on earth are you like bringing something up now?

745
00:57:55.000 --> 00:57:55.840
So that was it.

746
00:57:55.840 --> 00:57:57.520
It was just, I was being confusing, I'm sorry.

747
00:57:57.520 --> 00:57:58.880
No, that's okay.

748
00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:02.160
And so like 397 a month would be,

749
00:58:02.160 --> 00:58:06.640
like 397 a month would feel totally worth it to me.

750
00:58:06.640 --> 00:58:07.920
Like if somebody paid that,

751
00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:10.480
I would think that's a really nice middle ground.

752
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:13.680
But if I talk to somebody on the phone

753
00:58:13.680 --> 00:58:17.240
and they were in such a great place and they were willing,

754
00:58:17.240 --> 00:58:20.280
I could tell they really wanted to invest in themselves,

755
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:21.120
but I could tell

756
00:58:21.120 --> 00:58:24.000
that they were really struggling financially.

757
00:58:24.680 --> 00:58:27.840
I could always give them something to see

758
00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:29.960
how committed they really were in a sense.

759
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:31.760
Like there's a book called

760
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:34.720
Battlefield of the Mind by Joyce Meyer.

761
00:58:34.720 --> 00:58:35.960
And I really like it.

762
00:58:35.960 --> 00:58:39.040
And I would almost say to somebody, you know what?

763
00:58:39.040 --> 00:58:41.360
I'm happy to give you,

764
00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:43.680
a pretty significant discount on that.

765
00:58:43.680 --> 00:58:45.560
If you're really committed,

766
00:58:45.560 --> 00:58:48.600
I'd be happy to take like 50% off that price

767
00:58:48.600 --> 00:58:53.000
and do it for 197 a month, for example.

768
00:58:53.000 --> 00:58:54.680
But what I'd like you to do,

769
00:58:54.680 --> 00:58:57.440
if you're open to it is go and read that book,

770
00:58:57.440 --> 00:59:01.480
come back to me in like two or three weeks when you're done

771
00:59:01.480 --> 00:59:03.920
and give me kind of a bit of an idea

772
00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:05.040
of what you learned from it.

773
00:59:05.040 --> 00:59:06.800
Cause if they're willing to do that,

774
00:59:06.800 --> 00:59:09.680
if they're willing to go and like spend time reading

775
00:59:09.680 --> 00:59:13.880
a really, I think profound book based on the Bible,

776
00:59:13.880 --> 00:59:16.000
based on your mindset, things like that,

777
00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:18.000
similar to what I teach,

778
00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:19.760
I would think that would show me

779
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:21.880
that they're really committed.

780
00:59:21.880 --> 00:59:25.720
And so God's kind of put that on my heart lately of,

781
00:59:25.720 --> 00:59:28.040
you know, how can I get the right people

782
00:59:28.040 --> 00:59:29.960
into the program that I know are committed

783
00:59:29.960 --> 00:59:33.480
without sort of having them have to pay the full price?

784
00:59:33.480 --> 00:59:35.000
Like, how does that feel to you

785
00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:37.360
when you hear me talk about it?

786
00:59:37.360 --> 00:59:41.040
Well, I mean, I think that, I mean, that sounds great.

787
00:59:41.040 --> 00:59:42.600
What's important is, you know,

788
00:59:42.600 --> 00:59:47.160
whether or not that's resonating with your spirit.

789
00:59:47.160 --> 00:59:50.800
Like, okay, I feel, I mean, even if you don't fully,

790
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:54.480
even if it's not a fully fleshed out feeling of an idea,

791
00:59:54.480 --> 00:59:55.720
you feel kind of a direction.

792
00:59:55.720 --> 00:59:58.920
You feel like, I think that might be life for my spirit.

793
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:06.900
You know, remember that there, there can be a, God provides us a playground to experiment

794
01:00:06.900 --> 01:00:08.600
with things, et cetera.

795
01:00:08.600 --> 01:00:14.600
So the, one of the really interesting things about what you're talking about, that's what

796
01:00:14.600 --> 01:00:15.600
I do.

797
01:00:15.600 --> 01:00:21.040
What I require is change for almost free where people can pay whatever they want.

798
01:00:21.040 --> 01:00:22.320
And why can I do that?

799
01:00:22.320 --> 01:00:31.600
I can do that because people have just have, people have, I go through this whole hour

800
01:00:31.600 --> 01:00:40.280
with them in which I get them to recognize this seriousness of the rest intensive and

801
01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:46.800
the fact that what it requires is change because I take it very seriously.

802
01:00:46.800 --> 01:00:52.840
And when they realize how serious it is, all of a sudden they take it very seriously.

803
01:00:52.840 --> 01:00:57.920
And so you do know that at least half, at least half of the people that I've talked

804
01:00:57.920 --> 01:01:05.880
to, if not more than half, have not joined the group when it's essentially free.

805
01:01:05.880 --> 01:01:12.480
Because they realize, okay, there's not an exchange of money.

806
01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:14.440
This is actually going to require me to change.

807
01:01:14.440 --> 01:01:17.000
And that's not something I'm willing to pay.

808
01:01:17.000 --> 01:01:28.720
So my point is that that is what, and also I don't market.

809
01:01:28.720 --> 01:01:35.680
So far everybody has, I do ask for video testimonials, but so far everybody has been referral.

810
01:01:35.680 --> 01:01:37.800
That's not a more godly way to do things.

811
01:01:37.800 --> 01:01:41.600
Remember I used to market, I used to go to big conferences and sit next to people who

812
01:01:41.600 --> 01:01:46.840
were doing, who were marketing like me for Amazon, Best Buy, Walmart, I went to the really

813
01:01:46.840 --> 01:01:47.840
big stuff.

814
01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:50.680
That's what I used to do for a living, marketing, it's not bad.

815
01:01:50.680 --> 01:01:58.800
But I'm just saying that I have them chase me.

816
01:01:58.800 --> 01:02:00.520
They have to find me.

817
01:02:00.520 --> 01:02:01.520
They have to work hard.

818
01:02:01.520 --> 01:02:08.000
They have to think, there's no place on my page that other than like one post that's

819
01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:14.240
buried way down, like back in March, that people even know that I have a program or

820
01:02:14.240 --> 01:02:18.120
how to get, or how to access it.

821
01:02:18.120 --> 01:02:24.400
The only way is that they could think, well, I don't know how to get on this program that

822
01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:26.640
all these video testimonials are talking about.

823
01:02:26.640 --> 01:02:30.360
Everyone keeps saying just contact Ashley, so maybe I'll message her.

824
01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:35.160
I don't even tell people, hey, message me, I mean, unless I'm being interviewed.

825
01:02:35.160 --> 01:02:42.920
My point is that they have to, so if they have even gotten to me, they've had to do

826
01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:43.920
a lot of work.

827
01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:51.640
Say that I send them my, I only send them, I asked them if they want me to send them

828
01:02:51.640 --> 01:02:58.080
my Calendly link, and then they have to tell me yes, and then I will send them the Calendly

829
01:02:58.080 --> 01:03:04.000
link, and then they have to actually pick a good schedule for them, then they have to

830
01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:07.120
make it, then we have to sit for an hour.

831
01:03:07.120 --> 01:03:08.400
They have to do a lot of work.

832
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:14.840
They have to do all of the work, and then I tell them that I'm there if they want something,

833
01:03:14.840 --> 01:03:17.440
and then I go away, and I don't ever contact them again.

834
01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:21.160
It's not that I don't want to, and it's not that I don't care about them, but hey, if

835
01:03:21.160 --> 01:03:23.440
it's important to them, then they'll reach out.

836
01:03:23.440 --> 01:03:27.960
My point is I don't chase them, they chase me, and that's one of the things that lets

837
01:03:27.960 --> 01:03:33.200
me know how serious that they are, so none of those things are magic, it just ends up

838
01:03:33.400 --> 01:03:37.320
being what I've done, and I wasn't planning on doing any of those things when I started

839
01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:38.320
the program.

840
01:03:38.320 --> 01:03:45.200
It's just what I now look at now and realize, oh, that's apparently how I do it, so that

841
01:03:45.200 --> 01:03:51.800
is how they show me how serious that they are, how they have, the fact that they have

842
01:03:51.800 --> 01:03:57.360
had to take a lot of responsibility, so I think that what you're talking about sounds

843
01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:04.000
like a great ... What's important is that resonating in your spirit, and even if you're

844
01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:07.480
not quite sure, try it.

845
01:04:07.480 --> 01:04:11.680
If you think it's enough of an idea that you should go for it, then go for it.

846
01:04:11.680 --> 01:04:14.680
It doesn't have to be perfect, it doesn't have to be like, oh, I know this is what I'm

847
01:04:14.680 --> 01:04:15.680
going to do for the next 10 years.

848
01:04:15.680 --> 01:04:16.680
Oh, I don't know, this might work.

849
01:04:16.680 --> 01:04:17.680
I'll try it on one person.

850
01:04:17.680 --> 01:04:25.800
I can tell you the number of things that I experimented with and tried on one person.

851
01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:29.440
It's funny, because with you and I, I feel like it was so easy.

852
01:04:29.440 --> 01:04:34.560
Oh, that's nice.

853
01:04:34.560 --> 01:04:35.760
You know what helped me with you?

854
01:04:35.760 --> 01:04:38.480
I had to work hard.

855
01:04:38.480 --> 01:04:42.800
You had, I don't know how many conversations, I've never had so many conversations with

856
01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:47.240
one person before they joined the Rest Intensive, as I did with you.

857
01:04:47.240 --> 01:04:52.160
I was like, wow, she really worked this.

858
01:04:52.160 --> 01:04:53.160
I did.

859
01:04:53.160 --> 01:04:54.680
Can you hear me?

860
01:04:54.680 --> 01:05:00.080
I felt, yeah, I felt it was, I felt it flowed very easily between.

861
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:04.920
In you and I, like we just kind of went back and forth and had these conversations and yeah.

862
01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:16.480
I wanted it, but I also wanted to make sure that it was something that I really felt in my spirit was going to move me kind of into a greater deeper relationship with God.

863
01:05:17.160 --> 01:05:17.480
yeah.

864
01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:18.280
Because I felt.

865
01:05:20.000 --> 01:05:20.480
You know what I mean.

866
01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:22.680
pursued it for yourself is what I mean.

867
01:05:23.240 --> 01:05:24.840
yeah I really want to know is this.

868
01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:26.320
myself.

869
01:05:28.160 --> 01:05:28.520
I can.

870
01:05:30.520 --> 01:05:47.240
Sorry we're stopped at the at the hotel so i'm i'm sorry i'm gonna have to go in about five minutes, but that's why she's all all anxious today go ahead, so you thought it was so it did it played really well with that between us.

871
01:05:47.560 --> 01:05:55.680
yeah yeah I felt like the flow was really good and it just I guess I kind of assumed that you would have had the same type of thing with everybody where.

872
01:05:56.000 --> 01:06:06.360
Somebody would find out about it and they'd be like oh i'll just ask a few questions i'll hop on the phone we'll chat like at first, I think, when I met you at first I saw you as kind of like somebody I wanted to.

873
01:06:07.120 --> 01:06:10.800
You know, like I wasn't thinking about at first, you being my coach.

874
01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:13.600
Good i'm glad yeah.

875
01:06:14.000 --> 01:06:14.720
And then yeah.

876
01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:16.880
Oh i'm glad that's where I want it yeah.

877
01:06:17.040 --> 01:06:18.160
yeah and then I.

878
01:06:19.120 --> 01:06:33.280
And then, when you had a yeah and then, when you were like talking to me about the rest intensive I thought yeah I know this sounds like really great, but I always liked that you and I sort of had that basis of kind of a friendship before.

879
01:06:33.520 --> 01:06:44.360
You became my coach and also from my experience i'm really, really, really discerning about who I allow to speak into my life or coach me right.

880
01:06:45.040 --> 01:06:55.080
So yeah you were one of the first people I actually allowed to fully speak into my life into the in that time, because I was still healing right so.

881
01:06:55.120 --> 01:07:00.520
yeah it felt like I guess I thought that everybody kind of would do that they'd meet you they'd.

882
01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:09.520
really enjoy you they'd enjoy what you had to say about the rest intensive and they would just join, because why would money stop them because they don't have to pay a certain amount.

883
01:07:09.920 --> 01:07:22.680
But yet it's interesting that you say that people will join in 50% of the time and 50% of the time they won't and it's like shocking to me that some people are not.

884
01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:30.600
They they're not fighting for their life in a sense they're not like I want this, I want to grow closer to God, I want this life for myself like why not.

885
01:07:31.600 --> 01:07:43.560
I know well it's the same thing with with a you know with anything with trauma or whatever it's like yeah, but what do I have to give up to do it, and some people just aren't willing to do that so.

886
01:07:44.240 --> 01:07:44.640
that's a good.

887
01:07:45.280 --> 01:07:45.720
Actually.

888
01:07:46.560 --> 01:07:48.680
And I am so very sorry.

889
01:07:48.720 --> 01:07:50.440
i'm actually gonna have to go.

890
01:07:50.680 --> 01:07:54.040
yeah no it's all good it was great chatting with you enjoy your time.

891
01:07:54.480 --> 01:08:01.480
You too, I hope that you got the answer you were looking for enough one to be able to pursue it, you know more with the word.

892
01:08:03.120 --> 01:08:04.840
Good for sure, thank you.

893
01:08:05.080 --> 01:08:07.040
you're welcome good to talk to you.

894
01:08:07.280 --> 01:08:09.280
You too, have a good one bye.

895
01:08:09.400 --> 01:08:09.960
bye.