things i said what are the best ways to reach gen z new believers in jesus online and social
media and then it gave me a whole list and then i and i'll tell you one is i and then
do you know what kind of questions they're asking about and oh my gosh that was the part that just
like so like i told you that i've been building this ministry for five years yeah because of all
the art and everything i had to do and learning but um there's been like you know how when you're
building something there's thoughts in your head but you haven't i literally just launched like a
month or two ago and just barely like inching out there picking little baby steps and it's
like everything it said except for one thing is what's been in my head and what's been in my heart
to reach me so it's just like here ai is giving me confirmation it seems yeah to say
that ai is doing that but it i know it has access to the internet and it has access to
what they're searching for and asking for and it's all the stuff that i had desires
to help them with plus i have more too but it just like oh my gosh i i don't even know how to like
you know yeah that's so exciting it's it feels it feels it does feel like it's like confirmation
that you're hearing the lord correctly yeah because i think sometimes you can be like am
i really hearing the lord is this are these my making this up in my mind yeah exactly my people
so yeah i mean because in the natural you can think of ways to discount it or rationalize it
away uh-huh but then you keep hearing it so you just keep going with it yeah and it's like well
time will tell like seriously time will tell i just feel like when i start putting this stuff out
and um i think it's just gonna reveal itself yeah but um and i
um what i did was i also oh right before we got on the call i got brave and i uploaded my letter
into chap gpt uh-huh and asked it for advice for like content but i didn't get to read it yet
because i had to run and get on the call so okay you want me to look at it and see what it says
and see what it says yes skim it you can share your screen okay and we can look at it together
okay you should have only done this a couple times okay share i want to share the whole screen
because i want to show you some stuff on my desktop too so if i just click on the desktop
you'll just hit share and then hit the desktop share yes perfect okay so first of all i want
to go oops how do i get to my desktop can you see my desktop uh-huh okay whoops this is the letter
okay and it's one two three four five six it's not as long as in my mind i was imagining like
paragraphs you know like like a like a meaty paragraph this is good this is like
feel like good bite size yeah and they're just and all the lined items are the ones that they can
double click okay and and it will oh i think we won't do that because of being sharing but
um so i've also can you see these guys uh-huh these are characters that i've drawn car i drew
this is my main tagline okay you're calling you um this is a thumbnail idea that i'm using i like
to mix cartoon with real and so i've got a real picture of the garden but i've got my cartoon
characters um and just for clarification the purple bird is the holy spirit okay that's how he came to
me in a dream back in 2010 he came to me just like that with a bird not the bible in his hand but
his eyes were huge and he was purple and blue like that his eyes were huge and all they kept
radiating was i'm pleased with you and i was really muted
seem to hear that. Yeah, I had a bad dream. And he was like,
calming me down. Yeah. And I have been trying for five years
to get him to look as cute and as happy as he was in that
dream. But that's as close as I got. But yeah, but his eyes were
huge. And one of the struggles I've had with sharing my content
with people is because not many people like there's cartoon
YouTubers that draw cartoon stuff for Bible. Mm hmm. They
never draw God. They draw Jesus. And they don't usually draw Holy
Spirit. They usually show him like a ray of light. Um, there's
one guy that made this really funny little white blobby
character as the Holy Spirit. Yeah. But I have been praying
for five years, God, are you sure you're okay with me
presenting this way? Because he told me to tell people that
question me doing this, for one is for teaching purposes only. I
am not saying this is what they look like. Yeah, of course. I am
just using them in my art to explain the Bible explain them.
But the biggest thing the reason I have him on my shoulder, and
he's not gonna always be on my shoulder, but he'll be in
different places. He'll be teaching and stuff. One of the
things I want them to know is that he's always with them.
Yeah. And for me doing this art and seeing the visuals, it's
like, it just makes you feel like when you're doing
something, and you're out at the store, and you think about that
visual, like, Oh, yeah, he's with me right now. You know, or
you're having a moment of weakness or afraid or something,
you'll have that. Oh, okay, they're with me right now. This
is representing them with you, even though they're in you.
Yeah. And I'm doing a whole thing about them being in you.
And I've created a whole realm with cartoon art to show that
the kingdom of God in them. And all this stuff, I've never seen
anybody do. Yeah. And so I literally feel like a pioneer,
like this is something all new. But it's trying to convey this,
what I'm doing. And, you know, so the young lady that's helping
me with social media, we're just like putting it out there. And
we're just saying that's Holy Spirit, you know, we're not
doing a lot of interest, you know, explaining or any of that
we're just putting it out there. And I love studying history and
art. And I went through the online, you know, website for
the last 2000 years. And there was a stage from like, I want to
say, the 1300s to about nine 1800s. There was people that
painted the Trinity. And the people that painted the Trinity
either did all three exactly the same look, like whatever
style they chose to make them look like they made all three
look the same. And there's a whole bunch that did God like a
gray haired father with a big gray beard. Uh huh. Jesus kind
of looking like that. And then the Holy Spirit was always a
white dove. And then it seems like the last hundred or more
years, they stopped drawing the Trinity, you only see artwork of
Jesus. Yeah. And so this was a big step of faith to step out
and do something new, and not make the Holy Spirit at least
white dove. Okay. Yeah, you know, that's like, well, that
would have been a little and then also drawing God because
you don't even the Bible project on YouTube. I don't know what
cartoons if you've seen any on YouTube, but none of them draw
God, they draw him up in a cloud, and he's like a cloud or
lightning or whatever. And same with Holy Spirit. But I felt
like this is what they said to do. And so I'm stepping out in
faith and doing this. But um, so this letter, oh, can you see
that? That's my, my chat GPT. Uh huh. So I just fed it the
letter. And then I jumped on. Okay, okay, I'm trying to find
where it starts. That's what so keep going up. Scroll up, scroll
Well, right there, it starts.
Video idea one, is it okay to doubt God?
Oh, cause I had asked it for video ideas
for the questions that it answered.
Oh, I never hit the send.
No.
Got it, got it.
Okay, here, now it's going.
Oh my gosh, I thought I hit the send button.
So now it's kind of giving us an overarching highlight
to the letter.
That's interesting, I never thought about that.
And then it's giving us some short form video,
real ideas from the letter, Instagram, carousel,
story or live videos.
But I'd like you to read what it says
the overarching themes are just to see if that's the same.
The overarching themes to highlight in your letter
are identity in Christ, God is Abba Daddy,
you're never alone, He lives in you.
The Holy Spirit is your helper.
You're fully loved, fully accepted.
The Bible as a mirror and a guide, okay.
Faith is a journey, not a performance.
I really like the last one,
faith is a journey, not as performance.
I feel like these are all really good
and you can even ask it to kind of re like,
build off of this.
Give me structure, give me a script
that would help me based off of my letter
that would help me reach Gen Z
that would really capture Gen Z's attention
but still get across the point of my letter.
So I can do it right now, right?
Just say, build a script and I-
Build a script for 10 videos.
Based off this letter?
Based off this letter and the overarching themes
that will capture Gen Z's attention.
I would also clarify to use the tone in your letter
because I think sometimes it'll change
the verbiage of your letter.
It'll change what you're actually trying to say
and then it loses you
because the letter's written from you, so.
And while it's doing that, I wanna,
am I able to open up another tab?
Yep.
Okay, I wanna open up,
the picture's annoying, there we go.
I wanna open, nope, not that.
Okay.
I wanna show you
my channel cover
because it touches on what you said was your favorite.
Those are all my characters
and it says, pack your bags, we're going on an adventure,
discover your new life in Jesus.
And he keeps telling me that,
it's their new life in Jesus
that I'm gonna be focusing on,
which encompasses the love of the father,
being accepted, their identity in Christ.
And it's a completely new adventure.
Yeah.
And so I thought that was interesting
that that was one of the ones you liked,
that the faith in me
is-
Up at the top.
It's a journey, not a performance.
Faith is a journey and not performance.
Okay, so story,
where did my question go?
Right there?
Oh, no.
Go down, scroll, scroll right.
No, the script right there, okay.
Okay.
You can call him daddy.
Run to God when you mess up.
I ran away from God every time I messed up
and he wants us to run to him.
Yeah.
You're already loved.
The Holy Spirit's your helper.
God lives in you now.
Start with the book of John.
You were made on purpose.
The Bible is a mirror.
The Bible's a mirror to your identity
of who you are in Christ.
So that's what I mean by mirror.
You are loved like Jesus is,
because that's one of my favorite verses in John 17.
It says the same love that the father has for Jesus
and back and forth is the exact same love they have for us.
So that's a big part of my ministry.
Okay.
I think these are all a good start.
And it kind of, you don't-
have to go through and read like, look through them, I would
never take exactly what chat GPT says. And I was never
in your creativity to do what you would do. Mm hmm. It gives
you ideas. Mm hmm. And it gives you ideas. And then you can kind
of tweak, tweak it a little bit, you can expand, I would say even
like, when you're making your videos, kind of like Bruce was
saying, you could never even show your face, you could have
it be your animations, you could have it be. Yeah, else you could
be like, who do you feel like? It could be your voice, it could
be your animations, like you could kind of play with like
what will capture their attention. Yep. Um, you might
hear something weird. I just noticed on my tick tock
yesterday. Uh huh. So three years ago, when Bruce and Lindsey
did their tick tock, that's when I created my tick tock and did
10 videos. And then I, I left it until like, a month ago or
last week ago, a week ago. Um, but there was two of the 10 that
on the cover had my cartoon art on it. Then the rest of them
were just my talking head face on the cover. Uh huh. Do you
know those were watched way more than the cartoon cover ones?
Interesting. I thought that was very interesting. And I don't
know if it's because I've been hearing for years that people
are drawn to faces. So I don't know if it's that if it's the
face thing, or what, but I thought that was really unusual.
Spencer's dot pics on tick tock. Yep. There's a period between
Spencer's and pics.
Sorry, it's loading. I'm in. I'm in Florida. And my service here
is, oh, it's almost non existent. Oh, wow. You're
getting quite a few views.
Yeah.
Okay, these are old.
The one that's the new is the one that's got like 700
something views on it. But the rest are all old. But there's
two that you can see they have a cartoon like God and Jesus
cover. They didn't get as many views as the other ones that
were just talking head covers. I thought that was interesting. I
thought the cartoon would draw them way more.
So I think I love the idea of the cartoon. And I think using
visuals and like capturing their attention that way. I think
sometimes it could change a little bit of your audience,
which I think is why Bruce was like, do you really feel called
to the older Gen Z? Because I think it was, it captures a
different audience, because I think it could be that the some
of the cartoon stuff could feel younger. Okay. And so it could
not draw attention as much to the 17 to 25 age period, if
that makes sense.
It does make sense. But my question is, how do I know,
like, there's nowhere really where you're saying, hey, this
is for Gen Z 17 year olds, or this is for Gen Z 27 year, you
know, it doesn't say you can pinpoint people directly. So you
just throw stuff out there and see what people like, and then
see, I don't even know if I'm, I don't even know the people
viewing it. If they're Gen Z, how do you find that out?
I would utilize Well, okay, so I would utilize your, your
captions, and your tags, I would Gen Z, I would capture
like, kind of Bruce has talked about in Facebook ads, how
Facebook is really ridiculous, and doesn't let you target your
audience anymore. If you're super specific in your
description, I'm like about who you're speaking about, it
typically delivers it, the algorithm is really smart. So I
think delivering like in your captions, and I'm not saying it
has to be Facebook, they all work the same way. But in your
captions, delivering those words, delivering Jen, like even
if it's just start with your hashtag. Okay, I'm curious. Let
me see if I can pull this up on my middle. I'm very curious if
we can pull up the demographic that you're
videos are showing because sometimes I don't know. I haven't really figured out all the
how to check analytics and I know the young lady that's helping me she's going to be doing
analytics and sharing the analytics with me like once a month when we get this ball in
the rolling because we're just literally starting but um
okay see when I look at mine you know how Bruce is saying that most of your people who
you watch your stuff are not following you my analytics on my page say that 90% of my viewers
were people that are just on the for you page so they're just on like the
the exploration page the general page oh okay interesting but let me
okay do you have your phone do you have tiktok on your phone yep okay so I want you to go to
your tiktok okay let me know there would it be helpful if I shared my screen my phone screen with
you so you can see I would love that I'm very visual let me so do I stop share this so you can
share yours I'm sure there let me have to join have to join on my phone
oh not this call
and my my young lady that made the video that's the top one that that has me as a talking head
um that's the newest one she did a lot of my graphics and and made it kind of
hopping through the whole thing so it's it's active through the whole thing it's not just me
like you know talking head through the whole thing she made it real cute
and I don't think I would have done it so I'm glad she's doing it yeah um okay let me
share my screen
haha
okay oh no okay go to your tiktok uh-huh I'm right there up at the top oh up at the top
the hamburger uh-huh okay go to tiktok studio
and then go to oh shoot where did it go
go to as monetization center I can just x out of x out of that
okay and then go to your latest post and click on that
and then we can click on which post you would want to I'm not seeing latest post okay so go
oh here uh underneath oh right there and click there uh-huh your latest post there
and then go to viewers so the second one oh oh scroll down you can see your viewer types so I
can see 88 of mine were new viewers 99 do not follow me wow and then you can scroll down and
you can see 20 were male 79 were female okay and then I can keep scrolling and I can see the age
demographic wow mine's opposite of yours people watching my videos you want to hear something
wild uh-huh 62 were 18 to 24 year olds and 24 were 25 to 34 year olds
wow confirm wow it's complete opposite of yours that's crazy lower on the 18 to 24 year old and
higher with the 25 to 30 year olds and mine's complete opposite interesting that's crazy
what about your low like your other ages the 35 to 44 year old is seven percent
well 45 to 54 is three percent and the 55 is four percent that's crazy that's crazy oh my gosh I got
a screenshot that wow that's your most that's your most recent that's my lowest recent one
And that's the one that is like kind of the changing of the new.
Wow.
Yes.
Wow.
Yeah.
2%.
Yeah, that's crazy.
I'm trying to see if there's.
Wow.
Oh, and my new viewers.
There was.
98% new viewers and 99% non followers.
Yeah.
None of them followed, but it was just an intro video.
Okay.
It's an intro video, but I also, I watch.
There are people that like my feed gives me.
I don't know.
I don't follow them.
Okay.
The only people I follow on Tik TOK are like my friends.
And I never, I never follow anyone else,
but I always get their content and I always watch it.
Okay.
So.
Okay. Let me see.
Oh, my male is 23%. My female is 77%.
Oh, ours is almost the same.
Yeah.
Okay.
So.
I think.
Yeah.
Back to your Tik TOK studio.
Hit the back button once.
Okay.
And go to view all on analytics.
Okay. Show me where that is. Cause I'm not seeing it.
Okay. So in the top, it says analytics, this top section.
Oh,
Oh, I wasn't up high enough. Oh, view all. Okay.
Okay.
And now.
And then I want you to change your thing to be the last 365 days.
So up at this little top bar, you can.
Okay.
365 Days.
Okay.
And then I want you to scroll.
I want you to go to the very top and go to viewers.
Okay.
And select age.
Okay.
Interesting.
It's almost identical.
Okay.
So it's almost identical.
That's very interesting.
Yes.
That's that's like, in my mind, I know that.
There's a lot of like, okay. Questioning.
Is this my, who is this?
Even though it seems obscure, it seems like, is this God? Why is this?
Why is this my who?
But.
Even if you're reaching 10 people, like Cindy, realistically,
if you're reaching.
10 People.
But there's the who God's called you to reach.
That's really, really cool.
Yeah.
Because now it's aligning with.
The things that like, even chat UBT,
the things that you've heard before that you had never even thought to
look, take to the AI for.
Never.
Or your, your statistics are showing.
Like my statistics.
I think that's cool. I think that's great.
I think that's great.
I think that's helpful.
I think that's a good tool.
I mind you. I do not post anything.
So I have some views, but not really.
But I feel like that's just confirmation because it's crazy in your
mind. You would think.
What age.
It's illogical.
Yeah.
So.
God works, right? That's true.
It's also shows that this is the platform that your audience is on.
Yes, it does.
It's also shows that your audience is on.
So I think that's a good thing.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Hi, Sally.
We've had my gosh.
We just had revelation.
We've had an epiphany. Maybe it's a revelation,
but I was looking through she's been posting on Tik TOK.
And I was looking through,
I was like, let's look at your analytics because we're having a hard
time with like, is this who she's called to her analytics?
Mine are all like 25 to 34, et cetera.
And I was like,
I don't even know who she is because I don't watch her stuff.
And Z.
I'm Gen Z and I'm posting and like, I'm just like posting random, but we thought that anyways,
that's just to catch you up.
It just confirmed what I've been feeling for five years.
Yes.
I love it.
Go God.
I know.
Turning the upside down world the right way up.
But you know what I also know is that young people are craving good mothers and fathers.
Yeah.
So they're actually looking for, they're looking for spiritual parents.
They are looking for people who are going to nurture them, who are going to empower
them, who are going to encourage them.
And so that it does, it feels great.
It looks crazy on the worldly spectrum, but it makes total sense in the kingdom.
And that makes sense with what I just told Macy before you got on was I just happened
to, I think it was yesterday.
So I did 10 videos three years ago with Bruce and Lindsay, then I haven't done anything
until this first one I posted last week and out of the 10, eight were talking heads and
the other two had my cartoon art as the cover.
They chose more views on the talking head covers than the ones with the cartoon art.
Like significantly more.
Like 700 views on the ones that are of her face and like 80 views on the ones that are
of the cartoon.
So I do think it could be a demographic of like, I think you're probably pulling a demographic
that's not on Tik TOK for one cartoons, because I think it could be younger that has a younger
audience that way.
So I think that the ones that are up your face are drawing probably an older, also,
if you think about it, like our generation, I was talking to, who was I talking to?
I was talking to my grandma and my grandma's like, what's my purpose?
And what's my this?
And like, her purpose is people and it's talking to people and literally she's like, she's
the most extroverted.
She's not like a typical, like, wow out there extrovert, but she's like the most chatty
remembers every detail about every person about from 17,000 months ago, tells me a story
about this person from wherever, but like people is her ministry.
And it's one of those things that I was like, grandma, what you have is needed.
What like our generation is craving connection from an older generation and the wisdom from
an older generation.
And like how we were talking about last time, how like my generation doesn't know the Bible,
my generation, like there's a very, very few of Gen Z, the generation like knows the word.
Yep.
So I think that like, you're like, and that's one of my number one things I want to teach,
but I'm doing it in a fun way by visually explaining it, not just want, want, want,
you know?
Yeah.
So I think, I think Bruce is correct.
Let's start with building, cause I kind of, how I said last time, like you need to build
trust with your audience and building an archive of content for them.
I feel like what I had told Sally to do last time was like, start one place, start a thing,
get your one thing out there, get your wife for Sally.
It's putting her content onto tribe.
Like it's putting her stuff into one spot for you.
I think putting, building content, posting content.
So I literally just starting launching.
So there's not a whole lot of content.
That's okay.
Number one.
Yeah.
That's okay.
I think building like, okay, we've niched down.
I think we could niche a little tighter.
So when I said that I'm looking for those that know they're hearing the Lord, like he's
calling them, they don't know why, or if they're even sure they're hearing him, but they they're,
they're feeling a sense that he's calling him.
Is that a niche?
It needs to be, I think it is a type of person niching down to like personality traits of
individuals.
So like I am a 20, like my, if I were to do, let's say I'm, I'm very into knitting.
Let's say I were to do my niche of people are 25 year olds who like knitting and are
females.
Okay.
Or like Bruce always talks about like, oh, his niche, his niche for like tribe social
are like our bigger, like if they were to have an app, not pioneers, but like if they
were to pay to have their own white labeled app, it's six to seven figure entrepreneurs,
maybe seven to eight figure entrepreneurs who are running a community.
a coaching community, et cetera.
So it's niching down to like,
who are the people that you're speaking to?
You're speaking to new believers.
What about new believers?
People who feel like they're called to hearing the Lord.
Now-
Also, there was something Sally said weeks ago
that I want to add, but I don't know how to add.
And she said the ones that take action.
Okay.
I want some new believers who really want to make,
start off right with their walk
and take what I'm teaching them
that can literally save them so much time
trying to figure things out and start off right
that will affect their whole Christian walk.
I want to find those that are wanting to do that.
Not just hear about it, but actually do it.
But I don't know if that's a niche.
I think it is.
I think if you're thinking through,
a niche is more so for yourself.
Who am I teaching to?
If you're running ads, you need specifics.
You need to be able to vocalize and put on paper.
Who is it that I'm called to?
Who is it that I want this to go to?
Who am I speaking to?
And then being able to more so getting your niche down.
What are the types of new believers you want?
And I think you're starting to articulate that better.
You're starting to.
The more you verbally process, it's helpful.
Well, for some people.
Some people verbally processing helps.
Sometimes I start talking and I'm like,
I'm normally internally think,
but it comes out of my mouth.
I normally internally think, yeah.
But sometimes.
But when you get to talk with other people, it inspires.
Yeah.
So I think the more that you're doing this
and kind of getting things kind of brewing,
you're able to kind of better clarify.
It'll also help you, your messaging.
It'll help.
Well, that's what it's doing is it's helping my mindset
for when I'm reaching out to them.
This is in my mind.
Okay, I can see so-and-so and so-and-so
and they're go-getters.
They don't know what or how, but they feel it.
Like they feel a drive,
but they're not really sure what it is.
And this might just be what it is.
And they're ready to go take action.
Cause I've heard there's some new Gen Z believers
that are like ready to take action.
Mm-hmm.
So.
Yeah, it's true.
I think you're on the right path.
I think it seems confusing.
I think it seems people are like,
it's not like everyone else
doesn't need to be confident about it.
You can be confident about it.
And we can like, I mean,
the numbers that blows my freaking mind.
I literally, I'm like, I wouldn't have imagined
that that would, it would be so specific
to like literally the people,
the numbers that we talked about.
62%.
That one's 18 to 24.
But like 17 to 25 is what we had said before.
So I think that's really, really funny.
But I do think Bruce is right.
We need to bring it maybe the age a little closer
because if you think of the age group,
17 high school brain is very different
than a 25 year old's brain.
It is.
And that was a very good point,
but I don't know how to,
do I distinguish that in my material
or do I just put my material out and time will tell?
I think decide in your heart.
Decide in your heart.
Okay.
Cause I don't think you're gonna,
like you're not gonna be speaking to people
and be like, are you 17 years old?
I know, right.
I don't wanna be doing that.
No, we're not a time.
Can I share some stuff that's going on in here?
Yeah.
At least not, because I think it actually relates
to what's happening.
So just to let you know that in,
so in New Zealand,
there is a real birthing of curiosity
because you're right.
Macy's spot on that.
Bibles have been taken out of schools.
Yeah.
Christiana has been taken out of schools.
So these kids are hungry.
So we're praying into that
and some other stuff that's going on.
But I'm involved in one high school,
indirectly involved in another,
I know of two others all in our area
where the kids, so the prefects,
the last year of high school,
leaders in the school have started up Jesus clubs.
Oh, wow.
And it's coming from within.
So it's coming from people who are part of a church
who are like, holy heck, people are,
and I'm not kidding you,
40 boys rock up to a non,
like a secular school every week
to find out about Jesus.
So you are in a hot spot right now.
But that's just confirmation for you.
And I agree with Bruce and with Macy.
I feel that it is that 17.
possibly to 21 year old.
So taking that, it's that university,
it's that I'm just stepping out of high school
into my further education or my field
or I'm making that first.
Voices, yeah.
And I'm like, oh my goodness, I don't know how to do this.
And that's when people are calling out to God.
And they're wanting something real
because all of social media is pumping at them.
I've got the answer to this, I've got the answer to that.
They are over people telling them what to do.
Okay.
So we started three weeks ago with 12 boys.
Last week it was Standing Ramon Lee.
So that's in three weeks, it has trebled in numbers.
And these boys are coming, they're atheists,
they're whatever, they're like, but they're curious.
So I think the keys that are,
and what I'll do is I'll actually flick you a message.
I'll probably put it in the tribe messengers.
I'll try and copy and paste it.
Steve, basically on the first session that we held,
we said, right boys, don't put your names
on the top of the piece of paper.
Tell us what questions you would like us to answer for you.
Oh, I like that.
Some of them, some of them were quite deep and meaningful.
I'm like, fuck, I don't.
And I said to Steve, because he's the chaplain,
I'm like, I am not equipped to answer these questions.
We're just doing this as part of like hanging out with Jesus.
So, but he's got the three of us.
So there's the chaplain, there's myself,
and then there's the chapel prefect.
And we're going through,
we've actually chosen to go through alpha
for youth alpha, as they call it.
But what we're doing was we're offering
lots of discussion points.
So they go into groups and discuss a little bit
like going into a, you know.
So not just being talked at,
they're actually being able to.
Oh no, this is totally, we'll do something
and then something will pop for one of us
and we'll stop the video and we'll go,
right, what do you think to this?
And then they all discuss it.
It's like going into a breakout group.
But in real life, we're talking.
With grandparents, yeah.
It is, honestly, I can't tell you
how fricking on fire I am in this stuff.
And seven, yesterday, we had seven,
so you seven, eight, so 11 to 13 year olds.
Those boys, we were doing the, I am the vine,
you know, and if you're connected to me,
and we said, right, what does that mean to you?
We didn't give them, we just read the scripture
and gave them the information.
The revelation these young people are getting
is like next level, next level.
So admittedly, they're in a space
where God is spoken about
and they are getting good chapels.
But my point to you is I will send you the 12 questions.
Some of them will be relevant and some of them won't.
But, or it might be 20 questions.
But it'll help, it'll maybe just help you go,
okay, well, if these were the questions
that my people were asking, how would I answer them?
Or say, God, out of these questions,
which are my top three?
Which do you want me to answer for these people?
I'm guessing it'll be similar questions
that others will have.
But I'm also thinking I could do a post
asking them the question
and see if they'll respond in the comments.
100%, what is your perspective on this?
Or do you want to know the answer to this?
Or whatever.
That's what I was hearing.
I was like, wow, I could put those questions on as posts
or even do like a YouTube video
and have them do like call to action
is put what you think this means.
Because that's drawing on them hearing the Lord,
which is one of the things I'm trying to help them with.
And that would be awesome.
So you're gonna put those.
And they all played that game yesterday with God.
That's so amazing.
Every single one of them,
whether they believe or they don't believe in God,
every single one of them had a game.
Every single one of them had all three.
And we've done that for the last five years.
So 80 boys a year leave that school
hearing from God directly.
Wow.
How cool is that?
They get a prophecy.
They know how to read the Bible.
They know four doxologies
because they sing them often at school.
They get a prophecy
and they get to hear from God themselves.
And for me, those are boys well equipped
to go out into the world.
Well, you know what else you triggered a memory of me
is I have a friend who's 20 years old
and he was literally born to be an evangelist.
And he, the last two or three years,
he's been out there being evangelist.
He's gone to super duper training for it and everything.
And guess where he's going?
All the high schools.
Yeah.
So there you go.
And they're all super hungry.
He is seeing hundreds come to the Lord.
So last, a month ago, they held an...
because we're quite rural, we don't have a lot of population here. So they pulled all the youth
into one church in our area. They had 500 rock up, 70 people gave their lives to Jesus.
So there is a massive, so you are, keep going. I want to, I want to encourage you to keep going.
The statistics that Macy's just found that have blown her brains.
You know, like you, you, God laid it on your heart five years ago. Now is the time.
You are absolutely right to stay where you are. You've just had confirmation from me.
You've had confirmation from Macy, like this is on the same page. Just keep going. And, you know,
and to see those analytics, just like what? Because I didn't even know how to check them.
And she just walked me through how to do it. And we were both just like, what?
I think Cindy, you should post that in my thing. That's a good idea. I think you should. Well,
I think you should post it on tribe, right? Yes. Yes. I can post it in tribe today.
I also think you should post a screenshot of your page and your viewer number.
And I would just because 700 views on your first video is not like it, like, normally it's like
30, you know, really? I have no idea. It's been three years. When people are first posting a
video, it's typically like 30, 50. Sometimes they pop off and they do crazy. And it's only an intro
video. That's all. Yeah. I feel like, like you said, it's, it's just confirmation of like, okay,
what you're doing is correct. There is a need. Yeah. I feel like crying. I'm just like so happy
with both what you're saying. It's like just getting confirmation.
Because I've just been going with what's in my heart for five years while I'm building this.
But now's the time. I've had a YouTube channel for four years.
And I posted the intro for this, this season. And I said to God, right, what am I doing this season?
He said, you know, who is my God? I'm like, what? I said, when did I become an authority in that
space? And I said, Okay, then if that's what you want me to talk about, what are my 12 sessions?
And he gave me 12 sessions. I'm like, oh, you're and I got more views. It's only 60. But it's more
views on my first day of there than I probably most of my others. So this is the time people are
hungry. Okay, so just keep going. And that's why we need family. That's why we need to try. That's
why we need community. We've got different things that we're seeing. But we need to lock arms and
help each other. So I'll send you the stuff. And then I'm not on TikTok and stuff. But I will do
what I can to share what you're doing. Because again, it's, you know, I'll have networks and
people that you can't reach. And so if I can share something, somebody who is in that space can pick
it up and put it in pioneers, because actually, what we need to be doing more in here is supporting
each other. We need to be getting each other's channels where it works. And, and share. So
yeah, and actually, this YouTube series is has been born out of the questions that the
Lindisfarne boys asked. Wow, they're asking it, then lots of others will be asking it. And it's
very raw. It's very real. And there's not one piece of theology in it. Technically,
it's all his words, but it's not come is coming from the heart, not the head.
So you're good with me using some of those questions. If I decide to make posts and stuff
with it, look, hey, look, we're all here to spread the kingdom. And the boys asked them,
obviously, you wouldn't reference where they came from, which is fine. Because I think it's,
you know, that's something that's internal. But sharing it, if I said to Steve, Oh, by the way,
Steve, we've just handed on those questions, because nobody knows who the boys which boys
wrote it. So it's not like we're sharing any confidence. But this is
intermingled into a post. It's not going to just be like, yeah,
but the thing is, these are people, genuine people have asked these questions.
And this is a God has said, use God intelligence and artificial intelligence. Now, that doesn't
mean to say we don't use AI, we absolutely do. But these questions have come from the boy's
hearts that come from God. And they're to expand the kingdom. So you use as many of these quotes
as you or questions as you want. And some of them you won't use that one of the questions was,
why am I so scared of girls? Like, you know, that is not necessarily but maybe it will get
you some posts. Who knows? It's because it's a boy's school. And I used to be scared of boys.
Yeah, I was in high school.
Then I started working at a restaurant. And I don't know, I
don't remember the details. But I started seeing boys do some
things that I'm like, Oh, my gosh, they're no different than
we are. They're just as, you know,
that I didn't wasn't scared of him anymore.
And maybe that's another thing. I don't know how many single sex
schools you have, you know, not very many, because that's an
issue for us is you have these single sex schools, and they
leave school and they've got no idea how to interact with the
opposite. Okay, I don't think we have any, but there might be one
or two, but I don't, I've not heard of that. So small.
Yeah. So that's a question that you won't even need to bother,
you can just ignore it. But even if you got half a dozen out,
that really made sense to you. But yeah, I will, I'll put them
in the pioneers thing, because that'll help us interact in the
chat. I'll just have to work out how to take a photograph it and
upload it, but put it in the, or the link.
Yeah. Oh, and then I was just gonna say real quick before
Macy. And I told Macy, when I got on, I had just got on my
chapter GTP and was asking it questions about new believers
and what they're asking what what are their struggles. And I
told her like 90% of it was all areas that I've been wanting to
help them with. So even AI gave me
that is so good.
It was wild.
I'm Macy, thank you for opening up this time for us to be able
to just ask questions and work through. Because now all the
stuff that's been done, it's all great. But now we're actually to
get getting into the nitty gritty. So I love this
combination of you and Bruce. And the fact that we actually
get to hang out with you is like, yes.
Yes. And I just found out last week that she was Gen Z. And so
she cleared up so much about the email thing and the texting
and just everything. So it was just so amazing. But I know, you
have a very busy week this week with helping your mom. So I
don't want to keep you. But I don't know if you want to, like
just meet next Tuesday. And then we can see if we need some more
help and
stuff like that. We can do that. I have a few action items for
you, I think. And I think a little bit of a clarity on
switching what you're doing. For the time being, I think, I think
Bruce is correct. Let's just start posting because I think
you getting out there first is what's important. And then you
start getting I don't even know if it's a following necessarily.
But once you're getting views, and you're getting like, all of
your stuff out there, and like,
worry about lead magnets,
getting the conversation started getting yourself out there, like
for Bruce's stuff, I was just posting for him for weeks and
weeks and weeks before we did anything. Because it's like I've
said over and over, like getting the your the trust built, your
audience, and even getting like, I think there's a lot of
different angles you could take, there's nothing wrong you could
do. Well, there are wrong things you could do on the internet.
But like, there's nothing like wrong, you could post that's
like, okay, you posted it, it didn't work. Like, okay, you're
not going to beat yourself up about it. Like you posted it. It
didn't work. It could be I posted a video, and it got no
views. And then I posted 17 more videos. And my 17th one got 7
million views. But then this is this is a hypothetical. Okay,
okay. hypothetical. But people will go back because they've
seen that one and go back and watch my stuff. So eventually
that first video will get watched. Okay, everything, it
all matters. But like, if it didn't get views in the very
beginning, it doesn't matter. Okay, yeah. Time later on. So I
think let's do for the next month. Why don't you try
posting? I don't know how you can turn is today is the 17th.
Right? Next month, July 17 is my 43rd anniversary of my being a
Christian. And that's kind of was one of the goals I had for
putting out that letter. Yeah, right. Putting content out for a
month. So why don't we do this? Why don't you post for the next
month? Why don't you post I had a couple ideas while Bruce is
talking. I have people who like, will post like I really like
when people do story times on Tick Tock, they'll tell me some
crazy story, but they like post it in six parts. And it is the
most elevating it is that I heard is
good and no it is in my soul it's so aggravating but people have to go they're like oh my gosh
i have to know what happens next oh and they go to your page so you're leaving them hanging
yes so that's kind of like what i was saying last week post the one juicy paragraph that you feel
okay i think you can know it's leaving them hanging uh-huh i think you could do and
and we can bounce it back and forth but i think what you could do is take what bruce
has said and take what i've said take take your letter take it to chat gpt continue what we were
doing with the conversation with it get your scripts get your videos because you can never
have enough content you could probably make 50 posts based off your one letter like do everything
bruce said i pull from it i also think you could do one video per paragraph okay good i think you
could just start start reading it maybe start maybe do like a hook or do like maybe ask chat
gpt or if you knew what is a what is a what did we say for that paragraph and catching
uh like what is captivating a captivating thought about this paragraph okay it's almost like a hook
for the paragraph where it's not the first three words but it's like the captivating concept of the
paragraph and you can start the video with that to draw them in and then read that paragraph
okay and then i think you could do that for all six of your paragraphs in separate videos so like
captivating hook read your paragraph okay i wouldn't even give him the action item
you can't even tell him what it is no you could say go to part two for more you can also utilize
utilize your caption like your description so like you said uh-huh you can write whatever the
lord was speaking to me and the lord spoke to me this letter that he wanted me to read to you
and like you i i think use your hashtags use you can do gen z i would say do for you page
i would do you can find hashtags that are especially on tiktok also i would say post
new believer post on yeah new believer post on tiktok but don't just post on tiktok post on
instagram post on facebook like share it to the other platform because i'm not doing facebook
it's like the least favorite thing in the whole world so i'm doing instagram and youtube and
that's it perfect that's fine um cindy in the pioneers chat will you put i don't do tiktok but
i do do instagram and youtube so hopefully you want the instagram link yeah so what we'll do
if you're up for it we'll cross over i'll subscribe to you you subscribe to me but what it also means
is that and especially the instagram because i can share on that and the person who is doing my
social media for me my graphics for me she is a gen z powerful christian we just interviewed her
on our radio station a couple of weeks ago the wisdom this gorgeous girl at 19 has got is next
level but she's got she's just gone to university she is surrounded by non-christians surrounded by
people who are hungry so she she would be an incredible advocate in terms of if she could
see then if she follows your tiktok she can share it with you do you say like it's up we've all got
connections in spaces yeah and she it's in her interweave with each other absolutely because
it's not i don't sit in that space but i know people who do so i can then pump i can direct
message so that comes back to the dms you were talking about earlier i can dm ella i can dm
beautiful gorgeous girl actually that just sent me the most you just made me cry before this
who um she just sent me the most beautiful testimony um i'll put it i'll put it in the
i'll try and put it in the tribe social chat but frick it made me cry um just so much has been
redeemed and restored so she didn't know anything about god she came to coach with me she's not in
a church she's 22 so she's your age group and 21 22 um she is a absolute powerhouse and she
acted actioned all of my coaching so she's bought a tiny house so she wanted she said right i want
to buy a house within a year within three months she bought the house wow in so and her ex-boyfriend
partner has that relationships she just sent me the message she said this has happened this
has happened this has happened this has happened like everything's being restored
But, and I've messaged her back and said,
okay, are you still thanking him?
Are you still reading the Bible?
Are you still hanging out with God?
Because we're not in the same area.
So she's got no community to hang out with.
So I can message her, like there's a few,
but I could probably message five or six people straight up
who are your target market, who I've coached,
and I know will be hungry and they'll be activators.
So it's kind of like this.
So we've got the, but this is how we need to work together
because all it takes is one of those guys
to then pass it on to another person,
to pass it on to another person.
So it's just, and when it comes from,
this is a lady I'm hanging out in one of my groups with,
she's amazing.
Hey, look, just click here, follow her, see what happens.
And they will click because I've personally said,
you're amazing.
So they have the relationship with me
and then I pass it on to you.
Does that make sense?
That does, yeah, thank you.
Wow, this is, I feel like I'm in a whole new world,
like literally just stepping out.
And I've been like an introvert.
I've been hiding for five years, building this.
And now I feel like I'm just getting my toes wet,
you know, like just stepping out.
So that's why you guys are also needed.
And I can't tell you how enlightening.
I mean, there's a lot of stuff I've learned about Gen Z,
but it's one thing to learn about them,
but not how to actually go from the learning to the tech
to actually reaching them.
And so Macy, that was incredible,
what you told me last week and helped me with that.
And knowing that I, oh my God.
So because I think in pictures
and that's why I think God gave me this ministry
to use cartoon art for my stuff.
When you said that,
and I was gonna ask you if I can use this,
not, I don't know if I'll use it with my posts,
but I don't know, I might use it for just me,
but you said their attention span is like a goldfish.
I literally like, I gotta go draw a goldfish now.
And I got to have that on my-
That's funny.
My like desktop or something so I can see it
and just keep that in mind that they're hungry,
they wanna know, but in bite-sized pieces.
I need to send you a clip that's called,
what is water?
Okay.
And it's two goldfish in a bowl
and they don't know that they're in water.
It's nuts, but I've just had that click too, so.
Okay.
I'm gonna show you this.
Okay.
Since we were talking about your video.
Yeah.
All these different things, post,
start with reading your letter,
do six videos reading the six paragraphs of your letter.
Okay.
And then you could do 10 videos, 20 videos,
or maybe you do another six videos with the scripts
and that kind of conversation
like we were talking about before.
Okay.
And you can kind of utilize it that way,
but you're really trying to like milk the letter,
get the content out.
Okay.
But utilize your description in here,
utilize your description.
Okay.
And then hashtags.
I would do FYP.
So if you can see like this number,
I wonder if I can draw on here.
Excuse me, excuse me.
Or what is FYP?
For you page.
So that's what I'll do.
Oh, okay.
TikTok it's not called the explore page,
it's called a for you page.
Okay.
So I would do on this right hand side,
do you see it says 7.4 billion posts?
So I would use that one.
I would do, you could probably do,
probably a handful of these.
I would look through this one for you page spelt out.
This one, let's see new believer.
This one has 2000.
So you could do new believer.
You could do new believers.
You know what else I've been seeing on YouTube
that they're calling them now?
New Christians.
Okay.
That seems to be the new thing they're calling them now.
New Christian 8,500.
Okay.
You could probably do Gen Z has 2.8.
Generation Z probably has,
oh, there's nothing.
Oh no, this one.
Oh, there it is.
Generation Z 54.
So like doing stuff like that.
We'll have like SEO kind of.
I would probably ask chat GPT.
Can you give me 20 hashtags
that will help target new believer,
Gen Z age 17 to 21.
Etc.
And then I would also do a content like whatever's in whatever's in your video, making it to
where you're like something that's in your video because if someone's searching, oh,
like God's love or something, if someone's searching God's love, if your videos about
God's love, if someone's searching goldfish, my videos about a goldfish, like I want to
put it in here, you know?
That's funny.
I love that.
I'm going to be using that goldfish thing.
That was just perfect.
That's funny.
I would say do 10 hashtags at minimum.
Oh, okay.
I don't think you need to do a bunch more.
I would say stick with 10.
And yeah, and then I would, you did pretty good about this, but you can do your cover
and you can, TikTok is picky about, you can't upload a photo as your cover.
So you can, you can pick a video that you want.
And then I have to, I need you to watch it.
I had a little car on my dashboard of my car and I put it on the dashboard and it was just
as I was turning, it was driving back and forth.
That's adorable.
See, I, I'm a kid at heart.
Anyways, you can pick a, pick a point of your video.
And then you can do the standard and you can add the text and do like, and actually my,
my young lady is helping me with all that, that I hired.
And so she's, I just give her the video.
She does all the editing.
She does all the uploading and everything.
So, but for reference, I would just have her do whatever.
And then because you can do those hashtags, you can kind of pick what you want.
You can do the hashtags.
You can utilize a few of the things.
Like when I say utilize chat GPT, like do it's is going to be helpful.
Okay.
So yeah.
I just saw what it did today.
Like, oh my gosh.
And I have a podcast with 10 podcasts that I did six years ago and there's one video,
there's one podcast that's still getting views every single day and it's gotten from all
different countries.
Wow.
I found it and I don't even know how they're finding it because I haven't added anything
new since 2019.
And I threw one of my transcripts from one of those into chat, chat GPT, and I'm having
it give me like repurposing content from it that I can use in posts and stuff.
Yeah.
All relevant to what I'm doing.
And so I just feel like with chat GPT and some other sources, it's like I have all sorts
of access to content that I didn't even know I had.
Do you know what I mean?
It's like it, I feel like it just mushroomed in.
It's true.
Or you could even take old content, repost it, have your girl that's doing it.
Oh, and repost some of those videos again?
Yeah.
Because those videos are not on Instagram.
Yeah.
I think that's fine.
So I could probably do that, right?
Mm-hmm.
I never thought of that.
I think you can also do kind of like how Bruce was talking with Marcella about how you could
like change the hook, change the first sentence.
Oh.
Refilm the video, but use the same content.
Change the hook.
Okay.
But kind of make it new.
I think also, yeah.
So I think action items for you, Cindy, this next month, just post.
I wouldn't even worry about getting the full letter to them.
You could even do like as the, have your girl do as like the, as the thumbnail for TikTok
specifically.
You could do like part letter, part one.
Okay.
Letter, part two.
So then they know they're going to your feed and they want to see the rest of the letter.
They can go back and like, oh, I have, I'm on part four.
I want to go back to part one.
Didn't you say that was kind of a turnoff when you said-
No.
I was saying, I was saying it was good because, because people post it in parts, but it captures
my attention because I'm not sitting watching a seven minute video.
I'm sitting watching them in little bite-sized clips.
Okay.
So it's not as much as like a YouTube that's like four long parts or something.
No.
Do your, do your-
But on TikTok you can do that.
Do your 30 seconds.
Okay.
Post.
That's what I was saying.
Post six videos of your six paragraphs that are like 30 seconds long.
30 seconds.
I would try not-
Laura, I'm writing a lot.
That's good.
I don't know if this is posting or if you're posting this or not, but-
I will.
Um, post, uh, yeah, try to keep them.
I would also try to like the pace of your video.
You could even have her, if you were talking slowly, you can have the girl who's editing
your stuff, turn up your speed to like 1.5 or whatever sounds still kind of natural,
but it kind of picks it up a little bit because when something is slow, it almost makes people
like.
Want to bounce off.
Yeah.
So you can, you kind of have to keep their attention.
So even if it, the speed is a tiny bit faster, 1.25, 1.3, like a little bit faster, but yeah,
start with that.
Start with your videos this next month.
Okay.
And then next we will work on getting them.
Once you have people, we will work on getting them into your DMS.
Okay.
We could even utilize the many chat, like the, um, that it'll work for you, but getting
them into your DMS.
So we can start there.
Let's start on social media first and we'll move them to your text messages maybe in a
little bit.
Okay.
I think that's a good idea.
Let's start there.
I think that's really good because they've, I heard it takes like seven hours or seven
to 11 hours of them seeing your content over time before the like, and trust kind of happens.
So that's the only way to do that as content.
And I think Sally, you've got tons of content out, don't you?
So people are knowing you and like, and trusting you because you've been out there a while.
Yeah.
But you know, it's still small.
So it's, it's like, and it's all, um, God keeps showing me slow learning is good learning,
which I know is a quote from Graham, but it's that just steady away, you know, just keep
knocking.
And what I love about this is we learn as we go.
So although Macy went, right, you do 17, like nothing happens, nothing happens, nothing
happens.
Then you get like 7 million people all of a sudden.
And that's like, although it's like, it's out there, I actually claim it because what
happens is every time you do something, you learn it or you learn more and you, and you
get better.
And so, but if we don't move and we don't get the reps in, that's when we don't get
moving.
So this is, it's definitely a time for reps.
And you know what I've learned, the other thing I put is carve my own path and others
will follow.
I think just listening to today and just really realizing where the shift is for me, I've
been trying to people please a lot of people who I love dearly and I'd love them to come
to the Lord, but actually it's got to be in his timing, not mine.
So all I need to do is what my, whatever my thing is that he's asking me to do, that's
it.
And then it will, and it will come and the flow in this season, you know, when I caught
up with Macy last week was like, Oh yeah, cause actually this radio show, like she said,
it's really, you know, floating your boat and I'm like, actually all these partnerships
and then, um, you know, the, the disciples went out in twos and that's been my gig.
It's that, you know, it's that pumping.
So, but we just got to go in the lane that he calls us to go in and go rest.
And then we're all with you cheering you on and Macy will give you something and Bruce
will give you something.
And Jennifer, you know, like it'll, it'll come as we go, but we have to go for it to
come.
Yeah, exactly.
And not to worry too much and then get these beautiful, amazing people who can find the
stats and show you stuff.
You know, this is why we all work together because we've all got a different part to
play and you know, so yeah, this is, this is gold.
Keep going.
I'm just looking for that question.
I feel like I have more confirmation between the two of you and seeing the stats and seeing
and what you're saying.
Every time you were talking about the high schoolers, my heart was leaping.
So I think I'm more of the 17 to 2021 more than the college, like you were saying.
So that's where my heart was leaping, right?
I I'm going to take that as a guess.
And I, I think that will help tremendously because I never thought about it till Bruce
said that it was Bruce that said that about the college.
That's a whole different mindset than when you're in high school.
And so thank you that, that was really good.
And then also some of them may be going off to college and being like, oh my gosh, there's
a whole new world, you know, that, that visual of that really helped me too.
So thank you.
And I'm just, I'm scrolling through my hundreds and ones of all my, I've got to find this
12 things, but I will find those.
I'm just scrolling through my emails because I haven't filed it yet, but I will find those
questions for you because I think they'll be helpful as well.
So too awesome.
So I got lots of homework.
Thank you.
Oh my gosh.
And I, I will put that post on today and about the analytics lab that was.
was wild. I didn't wait God way.
Yeah, so I'm like, it must have been a God thought to think
about what you're
going to have me look at the analytics. That was totally God
putting that in your because I had no idea how to do that.
Yeah, you might be able to go pull them up on Instagram as
well. And just look. But maybe just wait, wait. I haven't had
much activity on Instagram, which I thought was interesting.
It was like, whoa, tick tock and a little bit on Instagram.
It just shows it's your it's the people that are Yeah, speaking
to so yeah. All right. So thank you. Thank you so much. And you
have a great week with your mom and the conference. Yeah.
Florida thing. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah. That'll be fun.
Yes. Okay, ladies. I will see you on Tuesday. Okay, awesome.
Thank you. Bye.