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Hey Jennifer! Hey! Oh, I need to, sorry Macy, I thought you were out of ghost. That's okay.

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Hi everybody. Hey Robin, Cindy, see you guys. Let's let people in. Awesome. Cool. See Holly's

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here. Job couldn't see you guys. Any wins you guys, I know you guys were hung out with

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Lindsay last week. Do you guys have any takeaways from that? Any wins from this week or anything

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you guys are building? Love to hear some wins. I had a good meeting with Macy regarding,

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I'm listening to her one-on-one and I didn't understand that we needed to purchase the

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software and it was a little confusing. So now that we went through that, clear as a bell. So

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I'm good with that. Thanks. Was that for ActiveCampaign? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Nice. It's a good,

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we use it for a lot of stuff. I know all of you entrepreneurs are looking for just one more

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software subscription to sign up for, but that's a good one. Awesome. Any other wins here? Holly,

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you're unmuted. So I'm picking on you because you're unmuted. I heard the first part of Lindsay's

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thing and she basically wrote your landing page copy for you in the first few minutes.

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Oh, we can't hear you. I don't know if you're speaking. There we go. Oh, hello. There you go.

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Now I can hear you. Okay. Yeah, she totally did. I want to go back and listen to it again because

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she was saying it and I was trying to take it all in and I was thinking, oh my gosh, this is perfect.

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But of course I need to remember it. That's good. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. And I am, so I am going

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to do a separate website. I decided I talked with Macy about it because I have so many things. I have

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different services and I need them all so people to be able to read about them and then like book

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their appointments and stuff. And I haven't found a way to do that without a website. Yes. That,

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yeah, for your type of business for sure. I think, yeah, everybody, like you kind of have like the

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marketing website. Even for Tribe, we have this. So we have like a tribesocial.io, which is just

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all things about software and all that. And then we still have like a separate landing page that's

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just for pioneers or a separate, you know, and then we have actual the Tribe app where you guys are

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using. Yeah. Okay. So we didn't even combine it into one thing. So we just tried to not make it

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too confusing for clients as far as like which domain goes where. So, but yeah, having that,

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you guys don't have to worry about a domain for your tribe stuff. So just use your main domain

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as like you're a landing page of some kind. Yeah. Cause I was using the original tribe social kind

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of as a website, you know, and so I just haven't had anything since then. And so people,

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yeah, there's just nothing connected to anything. So if people want to call their friend, they can't

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like look me up or whatever, unless they go, I don't know. So I've just been trying to figure

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out what to do about that. But I think I'm going to do just a basic website. Cool. Yeah. And once

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you get a website up and you have, and you've got your group as well, you could share in the

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community. I can definitely take a look at it and record a quick video, just seeing like how we can

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connect the two. There's some places in the group, for example, there's a thing called next steps

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where you can have links and resources. So in the group, you could have something that's like, Hey,

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book a one-on-one session with Holly. And you click that and it goes to your buy a session page.

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So you can kind of upsell to like other things, kind of like an Amazon when there's always like

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five other amazing things you want, like on that same page while they're in your group,

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you could have links to go buy other stuff from you. So. Sounds great. Thank you. Cool.

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Awesome. Well, that sounds good. Well, I'm glad you guys had a good session with

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Lindsay. She will be in like a good rhythm now. I think you guys, I was with you guys and then

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Lindsay, and then I'm back again. We're going to flip this the next week. You'll have like a guest,

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I think coming in. And then I know you guys are all meeting with Macy anyway. We're going to start

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hosting those calls as well, like in the community feed. So you guys can, you'll see like, Hey,

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Macy's live and you should all get a push notification for that. So if you're around

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and want to hop.

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in for a question, that's a good time to do that.

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So let me, I was going to just share a few things just

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that I had this morning, and just kind of about like

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entrepreneurship in general, and then we'll definitely take some hot seats, so

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be thinking of some questions. I can jump in, review stuff for you guys,

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look at copy, we could look at landing pages, we could look at

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how your group's set up, whatever you guys need,

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we can definitely give some help for that.

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But this whole entrepreneurship journey

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is, you know, first off you guys should know that you are entrepreneurs,

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like some of you guys coming from ministry world, and you're

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like, oh no, but I'm just an author, or I'm like a teacher, a pastor, but

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when you kind of jumped into this group of pioneers,

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entrepreneurs are very, pioneers are very entrepreneurial,

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I would say, and so you're stepping out into something that is very apostolic

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in nature, so you have, you know, you're taking grounds, taking new territory,

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you're trying to bring kingdom to this specific

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niche that you're working in, and there's, this is very

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apostolic, so this is a like version of ministry,

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bringing people into a new space, into new

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freedom, bringing kingdom wherever you go through your business, and business is

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just a vehicle that's going to get you there. And so

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when we first started, like the first half of our,

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I'll say like part one of our business was like

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2020 to 2019, so for nine years we had no coach,

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we had no, we didn't hire any mentors, we didn't do any courses, we didn't do

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any of this, any stuff that we're doing right here, and that you're all

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putting resources together, we weren't doing any of that for our business, we

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just kind of like stumbled along somehow and like figured

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things out the hard way, and I'm sure a lot of you guys have been

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in seasons like that, and the whole time as well we were

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very much like, Lindsay and I were involved in ministry

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on Sundays, and we were even in eldership and

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leadership and stuff for most of our marriage, and then business

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sort of happened Monday through Friday, and then sometimes we would have like

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events through Lindsay's work that were also kind of

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okay there's like kind of a blend of ministry and, you know, business sort of

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merging, but it was very much like business with like

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some Christians sprinkled onto it, and so we never really had this idea of

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convergence where things are just all coming together, and so that's

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been the fun journey of the last six years, is just figuring out this

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this thing called like kingdom entrepreneurship, like how do you

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actually be an entrepreneur and pioneer things

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as someone who's like also advancing the kingdom,

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and it does all sort of converge into one thing. You have

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ministry is now happening on a Tuesday at two o'clock

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on a Zoom call, but it's also happening on a Sunday, but it's also happening in

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all these different spaces. It just looks very different, and this

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to me is very much a version of what the ecclesia, like the church, looks like in

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2025. It's like people gathering a tribe, like

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connected, like we're doing, we're a tribe obviously, we're all building

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something, but you're all launching your own tribes

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and building your own thing to go help people do

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something, but this is very much like a ministry

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or a church related, you know, it's a version of church,

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and I'm not saying it's, you guys know we're for the local church, we're very

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plugged into our local church here, but there's also kind of

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newer versions as well to help people, disciple them, to

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again, that apostolic idea of bringing people into a new

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realm, into a new reality, and sometimes it's bringing them freedom,

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sometimes bring information, bring like revelation,

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mothering, fathering, coming alongside like sisters and brothers

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in Christ and like helping spur them on, and so it looks very different. So just

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don't downplay like what's going on here, like

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you know, this is, you know, don't despise

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humble beginnings, right? It may look small,

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there may be seven people watching your video, there may be,

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you know, three people reading your emails, but

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you're scaling something and you're building with a tool that can scale

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to thousands, and so a lot of this is just

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building up you guys and helping you guys

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kind of, even in this group and kind of in our Tuesday calls,

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just encouraging you guys and helping frame your identity

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to then you're even more confident to go out and to reach other people. So

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that's what I hope for this community, that this tribe that we have,

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that you guys are encouraged to go and do

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ministry, to do business, to do this version of church, like

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this is kind of what we're all called to go do, and not to have this crazy

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separation of like, well Sunday

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is this, or this person's really like a pastor, but I'm a business person.

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Like that should not be in any of our vocabulary.

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Um, you know, we're all kind of built, have our own, uh, pulpit that we're

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stepping into inside of our business.

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We have social media to speak and preach and to share, uh, you know, a good news.

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And so we're leveraging all these, this technology, we've got these, this group.

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So we've really, um, set it up for you guys as, as much as possible to be

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successful, um, at stepping in and leading in your own, um, your own kind

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of pioneering your own, uh, uh, ministry business, um, kind of ministry in the

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marketplace.

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I see Sally said that that's good.

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Um, and, um, for us, like it really came for us around the biggest shifts I would

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say in this last six years, like 2019 to today has been figuring out like our

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identity, um, and who we are and like also figuring out like who the Lord is.

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I know this is like very, very one-on-one, but I'm pretty much sure that any.

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Limitations in your ministry, your business, your church growth, whatever

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organization you're trying to build is pretty much limited between like what

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you think about yourself and what you feel about the Lord in your heart.

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Um, and we do a lot of these things with, uh, you know, we work with Keith and,

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and, uh, to, to help, we do a lot of heart healing.

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We do a lot of, um, digging down and just really getting, um, uh, fathered is

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really the word, like just figuring out like, Hey, like as a, as a, someone who

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has gone ahead, is it another next generation who has experienced like,

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Hey, here's some things where you're, you're, you're missing this, you're missing

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that, like this is, and it's not like you're doing your, you should be doing

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these three things.

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It's just like, Hey, like, do you know that you're loved this way?

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Do you know that you're, you know, this is how the Lord sees you.

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It's really just shifting identity, um, in a lot of this stuff.

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So, um, and those things are crazy because they seem so small and it's like how we

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present something to a potential client.

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really it's because like, there's this deep underlying thing where we're not

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even valuing ourselves.

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Like this is, this is some of the stuff we've like real talk been, been walking

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through in the last kind of year or two is figuring out like, how do we actually

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value ourselves, have a correct identity to then share and to open up, um, and

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bring people into that.

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And it does affect your business in such a crazy way.

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Um, because this is, it dictates like how you're, uh, who you work with, like who

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you can, uh, who the Lord can trust you with.

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Like, it just, it just really opens things up as you start to find more

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security in who the Lord is and like who he's called you to be.

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And so that has been like, you know, I would say like, like, obviously

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the, the, the tactics are amazing.

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Like the tech, the technology is crazy.

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I can geek out on the AI stuff as you guys know forever.

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Um, and, uh, but really the, the most meaningful things that have moved our

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business downfield have been, um, this, this, the heart healing, digging in,

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like, you know, healing marriage, healing, like our relationship with the Lord,

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healing relationship with kids, like, uh, other, you know, uh, you know, extended

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family, like there, there's a lot that the Lord has kind of opened up to us to

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say, Hey, I actually called you to this really big thing.

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Um, and to do this big thing, I'm going to need you to be whole because he, the

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Lord cares so much more about me than he does about tribe social.

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He cares a lot more about Bruce than he does about Inova studios.

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Um, he, and that's, and that's the thing, like we kind of come, I had this

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picture, um, this morning about this, that, um, we kind of come to the Lord

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with like, like, uh, I had this picture of like Hannah, who's she's for, you

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know, if she has a broken toy, she would like come to us and be like, come to me

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and be like, Hey dad, like this wheel fell off this little broken toy.

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Like, Hey, um, Jesus, could you come fix my business?

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Like I broke it.

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I did something I shouldn't have done.

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Like, can you come fix it?

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And the Lord's like in this with you, like he is, he's the, it says that

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we're equally like we're yoked with Christ in this.

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And to me, what this looks like is like, Hey, we're actually driving a car together.

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Like we're, he's like right there with me.

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We're navigating it like, you know, more of a, a father and son relationship.

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Um, and a lot of times we come to the Lord, like, Hey, can you come fix my ministry?

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Hey, can you help me promote my thing?

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it and we kind of have like different things, like different thoughts, like,

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okay, um, something bad happens in the business or something's

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not going the way you want.

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So we kind of reflect back on us and we're like, okay, how am I going to fix this?

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Um, that's kind of the first phase.

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And then we kind of realized like, Oh no, you're supposed to be a Christian.

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So then you learn like, okay.

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God, how are you going to fix this?

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Um, and so, which is also not correct either because the, you know, he can fix it for sure he, he can, but what he's really about is like this relationship piece, like, how do we do this together?

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And I would be encouraged question.

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I encourage you guys to do as you sit down, you know, planning out your week, Monday morning.

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Like I'm not getting enough leads.

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Lord, like, how are we going to fix this this week?

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Um, it's really encouraging to see some of you guys doing that and hearing from Lauren.

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Hey, I feel Lord's going to ask me to do this.

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So you take that step.

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Lord's asked me to do this.

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You take that step.

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That's kind of how you learn this practically is you just get the reps in.

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There's not like a cheat sheet that I can hand to you guys to do this other than like.

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Practice hearing from the Lord on this and having that posture of, okay,

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look, we're doing this together.

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Like he's God, obviously he can do anything, but he's also has me.

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I'm here on earth.

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He's given, um, uh, he's given the earth to men, to rule and to, uh, and he wants

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to have kingdom brought down to earth.

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I'm here on earth to help bring kingdom to the tech space, to creators,

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like that's, that's why I'm here.

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to different, a lot of different people.

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relational thing that we could miss when we kind of get super fixated and maybe

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I'm just preaching to myself and I'm okay with that, uh, but we get super

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fixated on like, Hey, this is where, um, this is like, okay, Lord, like it's

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Monday, I got to do this thing.

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This, this, this, how are we going to fix this?

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And the Lord just like, Hey, let's hang, like, let's just, let's just hang out.

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Like, let's, you know, and, um, I'm learning still in this, this phase to

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like, how do we take time to just sit and just wait and just kind of love on the

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actually pull that into all the tactics, right?

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It's much harder to go from like tactical.

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and then you do this, you know, and then you write these three questions down

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and you pray this prayer doesn't really work that way.

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I can't believe we get to do this.

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I can't believe he's gifted us with, with all this.

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Like from this place of just absolute awe and wonder, like, how do I now?

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It's Monday.

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upgrading kind of how you see yourself, you see your business, um, because I can

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guarantee you that the Lord's vision of you and your business is way beyond what

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you currently think it is.

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the future looks like is, is probably makes our dreams like look really silly.

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things in, um, I remember, uh, when we were first married, like I was telling

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someone this, uh, our dream was to like, was to go live in the city.

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go and we had, we're in this like 19th floor of this building and we got to go

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an, a fellow called us to go to move out of the city, back to the suburbs.

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know, outside the perimeter in, in Atlanta.

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like an acre of property and it was like less expensive and we stepped out of

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that and said, like, um, as soon as we stepped out, we were like, we were like,

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it's so quiet, like, it's so quiet here.

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I tell people outside city limits, it's great.

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that we were like, oh my gosh, if the Lord gave us this, like, this is the most

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amazing, and it was, it was the most amazing.

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the Lord's like taking us from glory to glory. So don't think like, okay, if I had a hundred people

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like sign up for my thing, or if I had, you know, sold 500 books, that would just be like life

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changing. And it could be, but just kind of dream with the Lord. Like, Hey, where are we going with

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this? Like, what, what are you, what do we have permission to together to do is this yoked thing

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is like, Hey, you guys are kind of harnessed together. Like we need to kind of move in step

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with the Lord in this. Hey, where are we going? The cool thing is you take one step forward

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and then the King of Kings takes another step forward with you. It's way, it's way different

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than, than just like, well, Bruce is taking a step, a leap of faith. And Bruce, Bruce has a

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ton of faith. It's like, no, no, I'm taking a step, but like, we're in this together, Lord.

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Like we are equally like re yoked right here together in this work. And so yeah, so that's

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it. I'm trying to keep your, see your comments as well, but that's, that's good. This is, this

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is just some things I wanted to share, um, that I, uh, woke up with in my spirit this morning.

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And let me just see if I, um, yeah, just that's, that's, it's like how we see ourselves, um,

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and how we see our father is going to determine our success and how far we can go. And, um,

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the more I'm learning about this, the more healed we're getting, the more, um, like secure in our

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identity of who we are, who the Lord is like, then I can kind of see the Lord's like, you know,

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giving us more and more favor in certain, in certain things. Um, and, uh, I also think that

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like, there is a, there is like a, a necessary, this is like a little bit more of a, um, mature

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like conversation, but with this at, with this space of us being like, um, okay, we're totally

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loved. We're totally accepted. There's nothing we need to do it ever again, to be more loved by

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Christ. Um, there's this thing of like learning the tactics and the muscle and the skills kind of

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on the, on the, the, on earth to like, to make, to make this go, um, even better. So you're learning

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marketing, you're learning how to do social media, you're learning how to build a landing page.

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You're learning how to set up a community. Like these are like, like, these are the things you

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kind of have to learn. Um, because it's going to build you up. It's going to make you smarter.

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It's going to make you better. It's not like, um, these are kind of life skills, um, how you speak

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to people, how you communicate, how we, how we're on camera. I mean, these are great skills to, to,

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that are worth like pursuing in 2025. We can't stress that enough. Like being able to get on a

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camera and like talk to people and present and speak clearly, uh, and communicate. These are

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necessary, no matter like what you're doing, like almost no matter what business you're in, whatever,

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uh, niche you're trying to serve, this is going to serve you. Um, so these are things that like,

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we just have to kind of do. So this, it's not that we're in a toil. I know Lindsay talked a lot about

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toil. I think you guys are, are, um, you know, seeing, seeing the difference here. And, um,

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but if there is like this exercising, it's building this muscle, it's building this muscle

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of like being, um, you know, I say disciplined, but I mean that in the most holy way possible.

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Like, it's like, okay, cool. I'm going to like pursue these things because the Lord's called me

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to be this, which means like, I have to like, there's some like learning I have to do to,

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to get to that point. Like if Lord's like, Hey, I'm called to go fly an airplane. Great. I think

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that my passengers would love for me to have my pilot's license. If that's going to happen,

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not just, Hey guys, like Lord's called me and I'm just going to do it. Like I see a lot of

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entrepreneurs, not you guys, but like other entrepreneurs I see like on social media who

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are like, Hey, I'm just doing this thing. Lord told me to do this. I'm quit my job. I did this

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thing. I I'm, I'm off on, you know, in the deep end and we're like, that's, that's great. But

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like, how does your spouse feel about that? Like, how does your kids feel like, like, I think there's,

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there is like this like discipline piece of it that I feel like Lord's got, and I'm not

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disqualifying any of that. And always, if you feel led to do those things, do those things.

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That is, if you, if you're in the coaching world and you guys are helping coach people as well,

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quickly learned that the ACE card for anyone to pull something out is the Lord told me to do this

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thing. There's nothing that you can say your spouse, it's supersedes all levels of authority.

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And all you can say is, well, if that's what the Lord says, you should, you should do that. Okay.

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This is just like a little side, um, like a hack on coaching, but there are people who,

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you know what I'm saying here is like, we feel like called to the thing, but we don't actually

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want to do the work to get there. And I feel like part of that journey is not just like, well, cool,

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Lord, I'm going to go off here and do all the work and I'll, I'll be right back in six months.

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thing of, of creation together. So there's actually like, that's actually part of the

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journey and not just writing that off. So, um, I was helpful. I haven't seen all the comments,

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um, but I'd love to hear some feedback, um, that's helped you.

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took any takeaways.

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There's a lot of comments here, so I'll skim them.

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But yeah, any quick thoughts?

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I'm always one to comment on things, guys,

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that I'm not afraid to go out there.

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I'll tell you where I'm at, Bruce.

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This identity thing is key,

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and I'm actually kind of pausing seed to deed.

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To get back to my identity, or get to,

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which I've never had this identity, I think.

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I've signed up with this body, soul, and spirit group

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called Faithfully Guided, and getting some counseling.

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that I've had in my life that I've never grieved over.

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I don't know how to love.

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You gotta love yourself,

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but I really don't know how to love others.

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I decide to love somebody,

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but I don't have the feelings that come with it.

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I feel like I need to get some solid ground

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underneath of me, and I'm doing the work to do that,

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to make all of that happen.

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So that's kind of where Robin Butler is today.

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That's exciting, yeah.

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I think you're making all the right steps.

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I mean, you're right.

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It does, finding out that we love those,

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but also the Lord loves us,

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seeing us through that being the starting point.

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when you are an entrepreneur,

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and you're already kind of built differently, right?

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This is not the easy way out to go,

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to be an entrepreneur.

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the entrepreneur's logic is like,

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why would you go work for someone else

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for 40 hours a week,

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when you can go and work 100 hours a week

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for half the earnings, right?

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there's like a, you do have a very thick skin.

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things that have happened, trauma, stuff.

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like trauma is, it's like cumulative.

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then you go to a two out of 10,

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then it's like a three out of 10

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and something else happens,

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it goes to a six,

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something else happens,

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it goes to a nine.

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something very small happens,

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It's like it bursts essentially at that point.

432
00:27:51.760 --> 00:27:55.360
And so I think that's something as a leader

433
00:27:55.360 --> 00:27:57.120
is to find those friends,

434
00:27:57.120 --> 00:27:59.760
those mentors that you can be vulnerable with

435
00:27:59.760 --> 00:28:00.600
and to share.

436
00:28:02.040 --> 00:28:04.720
Keith Fronte has a new book on friendship,

437
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:05.960
which I highly recommend.

438
00:28:05.960 --> 00:28:07.280
If you guys are,

439
00:28:07.280 --> 00:28:08.720
unless you just like have so many

440
00:28:08.720 --> 00:28:10.800
incredible, amazing friends that you just can't.

441
00:28:10.800 --> 00:28:13.080
And I think like every millennial and older

442
00:28:13.080 --> 00:28:14.200
is like, yeah, I could use,

443
00:28:14.200 --> 00:28:16.520
I could probably use more friends.

444
00:28:16.520 --> 00:28:18.200
You know, some kingdom friends.

445
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:19.320
It's a great, great book.

446
00:28:19.320 --> 00:28:21.120
Lindsay and I are just going through it now.

447
00:28:21.120 --> 00:28:23.560
But having those people to process

448
00:28:23.560 --> 00:28:25.240
and to talk things through

449
00:28:25.240 --> 00:28:27.040
and to kind of figure out how you feel about it.

450
00:28:27.040 --> 00:28:27.880
Because we as entrepreneurs,

451
00:28:27.880 --> 00:28:31.000
we just want to like blow right through that thing.

452
00:28:31.000 --> 00:28:32.080
Like, yep, I can just,

453
00:28:32.080 --> 00:28:33.160
I got a thick skull.

454
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:35.640
Like I can just keep pushing through to the next thing.

455
00:28:35.640 --> 00:28:38.560
That's part of the way the Lord made you as well.

456
00:28:38.560 --> 00:28:42.440
Like don't even be shameful of that.

457
00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:44.960
Like there's something the Lord crafted you for that,

458
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:48.800
to have that thick skin so you can take ground.

459
00:28:48.800 --> 00:28:50.120
But there's also this thing,

460
00:28:50.120 --> 00:28:51.440
like he doesn't really care about you.

461
00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:54.720
It's not just about like doing a bunch of things for him

462
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:56.840
and then dying.

463
00:28:56.840 --> 00:28:59.920
So that's not the goal, right?

464
00:28:59.920 --> 00:29:01.440
So that's great.

465
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.560
I think Bruce, it's also more,

466
00:29:06.000 --> 00:29:08.400
I have, we learned,

467
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:09.440
I don't know whether you guys have,

468
00:29:09.440 --> 00:29:12.040
but I have learned how to use marketing

469
00:29:12.040 --> 00:29:15.760
and how to use business to get what I want.

470
00:29:15.760 --> 00:29:17.600
You know, I use people,

471
00:29:17.600 --> 00:29:22.120
but I manipulate people by telling them,

472
00:29:22.120 --> 00:29:23.120
you know, what they want,

473
00:29:23.120 --> 00:29:24.920
giving them what they want,

474
00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:27.120
to manipulate them to get what I want.

475
00:29:27.120 --> 00:29:31.360
And I want to be able to come from a place of,

476
00:29:31.360 --> 00:29:32.600
I don't care about the money.

477
00:29:32.600 --> 00:29:36.000
I just want to help you get to point A,

478
00:29:36.000 --> 00:29:37.800
from point A to point B.

479
00:29:37.800 --> 00:29:38.960
And I'm not there.

480
00:29:38.960 --> 00:29:40.720
You know, I'm still, you know,

481
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:42.800
what's in it for me kind of a thing.

482
00:29:42.800 --> 00:29:45.240
And then I'll put some effort into it.

483
00:29:45.280 --> 00:29:47.560
So I need to get that sorted out

484
00:29:47.560 --> 00:29:50.720
before I could really go out and serve anybody else.

485
00:29:50.720 --> 00:29:52.520
That's my thought.

486
00:29:54.560 --> 00:29:55.400
Yeah.

487
00:29:58.360 --> 00:30:00.000
We've had similar things.

488
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.520
It's almost like, uh, we we've heard it said, like, it's like almost like

489
00:30:04.520 --> 00:30:06.000
there's like this fear of punishment.

490
00:30:06.040 --> 00:30:10.320
Like, if I do this thing, I do this contract, like I probably going to miss

491
00:30:10.320 --> 00:30:12.840
something and I'm going to get punished for it.

492
00:30:12.840 --> 00:30:13.200
Right.

493
00:30:13.700 --> 00:30:16.060
And there's like, Oh, I don't want to tell this person this thing.

494
00:30:16.060 --> 00:30:18.920
Cause they may, you know, that's not what they want to hear.

495
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:20.280
And then I'll get punished for it.

496
00:30:20.760 --> 00:30:24.400
Uh, it's like this, it's just like a weird thing, but it comes back to those.

497
00:30:25.240 --> 00:30:28.720
That, that like heart stuff that you've, you've experienced.

498
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.720
And it's, again, it's not like, Oh, this one crazy event happened.

499
00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:35.400
It's probably like, Oh, this is how this worked for 20 years.

500
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:37.360
And now we're trying to undo that and find healing.

501
00:30:37.360 --> 00:30:46.200
And so, so, um, yeah, I think I want to, uh, you know, the best thing,

502
00:30:46.560 --> 00:30:50.040
like you're the most valuable asset of your entire business, no matter what.

503
00:30:50.040 --> 00:30:54.340
So you growing in these skills, the, the, you know, tactical

504
00:30:54.340 --> 00:30:55.920
stick skills, the heart stuff.

505
00:30:56.480 --> 00:30:59.080
You could close your business tomorrow and you would still have all

506
00:30:59.080 --> 00:31:00.160
this ground that you've taken.

507
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:01.360
You could just start the next ones.

508
00:31:01.360 --> 00:31:07.700
Like you've like you've, uh, mastered, you know, levels one through nine in

509
00:31:07.700 --> 00:31:11.280
business, and now you could close that business and start a brand new one

510
00:31:11.280 --> 00:31:14.240
and launch something new, and you'd be starting at level 10 and just keep

511
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:16.640
building upward to 15, 16, 17.

512
00:31:17.080 --> 00:31:21.160
Um, you don't revert back to the very beginning because you already, you

513
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:24.360
know, mastered this level of, or this level of healing or whatever.

514
00:31:24.360 --> 00:31:27.920
So you're taking ground kind of internally more than anything

515
00:31:28.200 --> 00:31:29.320
and learning all these skills.

516
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:34.760
And, uh, yeah, that's, that's the most valuable thing is like, that's why I

517
00:31:34.760 --> 00:31:40.760
think the Lord so much values us in that because we, um, as strong leaders and

518
00:31:40.760 --> 00:31:43.840
entrepreneurs, we're like, but the business, like the business is really

519
00:31:43.840 --> 00:31:46.200
the valuable thing, like it's, it's valuable.

520
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:49.000
It's like, no, it's like actually you're valuable and you get to

521
00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:51.000
like lead this thing the Lord's given you.

522
00:31:51.000 --> 00:31:52.520
So it's good.

523
00:31:53.560 --> 00:31:53.840
Cool.

524
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:55.880
Um, yeah.

525
00:31:55.880 --> 00:32:00.440
Any other, anyone else, how do you guys feel in anything stuck out to

526
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.360
you, the Lord's speaking to you guys?

527
00:32:04.560 --> 00:32:08.560
I, um, do you guys hear, yeah.

528
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:08.880
Okay.

529
00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:12.880
Um, well, I also, I just really appreciate Robin's openness.

530
00:32:12.880 --> 00:32:15.560
I just want to say that I think that's really beautiful and, uh,

531
00:32:15.600 --> 00:32:17.480
it really does a lot too.

532
00:32:17.480 --> 00:32:21.960
So, um, but, uh, I just want to say that it's just so weird, but this whole

533
00:32:22.080 --> 00:32:25.880
thing about, you know, doing, building the muscle and everything and that kind of

534
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:29.960
thing, and then learning new things in the world, it's like, that's really ringing

535
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:30.600
true for me.

536
00:32:30.600 --> 00:32:33.840
And I've kind of talked about that a little bit past couple of weeks, two

537
00:32:33.840 --> 00:32:37.840
months, but I just think it's so crazy that he said to talk about that now.

538
00:32:37.840 --> 00:32:42.280
And, and, uh, you know, like even Pedro would kind of started with Pedro.

539
00:32:42.280 --> 00:32:45.400
The first time he came on, when he said like, you know, I think God

540
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:46.840
wants to change something in you.

541
00:32:47.320 --> 00:32:50.000
Um, and he was talking about like that.

542
00:32:50.000 --> 00:32:53.520
He was financially secure before he started to pioneer something.

543
00:32:53.520 --> 00:32:57.280
And for me, that was like such a, I knew I needed to do that.

544
00:32:57.280 --> 00:33:03.040
And I was just really afraid to like, kind of start having a normal job because I

545
00:33:03.040 --> 00:33:08.120
just felt like I couldn't do it, but I still had to rely on God and anyway, but

546
00:33:08.120 --> 00:33:13.560
so all of that has really been big for me learning to, uh, do this sort of downstairs

547
00:33:14.560 --> 00:33:18.440
stuff, if I can use Papa fun gels.

548
00:33:20.760 --> 00:33:21.040
Yeah.

549
00:33:21.040 --> 00:33:22.640
So that's great.

550
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:23.280
Yes.

551
00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:25.640
Um, it is.

552
00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:27.120
Yeah, absolutely.

553
00:33:27.520 --> 00:33:28.600
And how do you guys feel?

554
00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:32.760
What do you guys feel for, for where you're at right now in 2025 or

555
00:33:32.760 --> 00:33:34.720
kind of halfway through the year?

556
00:33:37.520 --> 00:33:43.320
Well, like in general or like, yeah, I just, I mean, um, how do you guys

557
00:33:43.320 --> 00:33:44.640
feel like you're growing in that?

558
00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:52.360
Yeah, well, I, I feel like it's just, that's like the name in the game for me

559
00:33:52.360 --> 00:33:56.840
for the past couple of months is kind of like muscle growth, but not, you know,

560
00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:01.600
literally, but being like super tired and then thinking, I think I'm actually

561
00:34:01.600 --> 00:34:05.960
on the right track and then having like this rest period and then thinking, man,

562
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:07.880
I can, I think I can handle more now.

563
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:13.560
Um, and also kind of coming into this place of peace about, about

564
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:17.080
really giving a lot of the stuff.

565
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:18.120
I don't know.

566
00:34:18.120 --> 00:34:22.560
It's like, I had to sort something out in my heart beforehand about the kind of

567
00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:25.280
business end or entrepreneur end.

568
00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:27.600
Cause for me, it was kind of like a way out.

569
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:33.480
Um, so I did, I didn't have to rely on God in a lot of ways, which may sound weird,

570
00:34:33.560 --> 00:34:38.840
but, but anyway, I feel like, uh, I feel like it's going in a very good direction

571
00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:41.280
for me, so awesome.

572
00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:43.920
That's great.

573
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:55.159
Um, yeah, I think, I think even just, uh, part of that as well, like you talk

574
00:34:55.159 --> 00:35:00.040
about friends, but it's kind of being in the atmosphere of where people are growing.

575
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:06.480
Um, so I said, like first, first nine years of our business, we didn't, we didn't have any community other than church.

576
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:19.680
Like we had, we had church, you know, relationships, but being around like a very niche group of people that are all kind of going the same thing is very inspiring because you're seeing other people grow, you see other people are vulnerable, they're learning things, they're growing.

577
00:35:19.680 --> 00:35:24.360
Um, that is like, we're not supposed to do this alone, I think is the key.

578
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:53.400
I mean, we're doing it with the Lord, of course, but I think the Lord's giving us communities like this to, to help and, um, which is awesome for you guys right now, but I would say, like, the upgrade in how we think about this is like, all of you are going to create your own communities for other people to experience something like this, like you've experienced in a tribe of, of some other group, just imagine, like, there's tens of thousands of people out there that are going to be impacted by, you know, the 10 people on this call.

579
00:35:53.480 --> 00:36:03.480
Um, and I think that you're going to think a little bigger and like, kind of also think through like, Hey, these people need to be reached, they need to be loved, they need to be feel included.

580
00:36:03.480 --> 00:36:09.720
Um, so those that's potentially down, like, you know, not tomorrow, but you know what I'm saying?

581
00:36:09.720 --> 00:36:16.200
It's, it's, it's like, the Lord's called us to some big stuff here, um, and really impact people in a big way.

582
00:36:16.760 --> 00:36:33.240
And, um, I've also seen like, like, um, I, I, there's no such thing of like, uh, I've never seen a story of anyone on anything in social media or online where they just like did it in the first few weeks.

583
00:36:33.240 --> 00:36:34.760
Then just like, all of a sudden it took off.

584
00:36:35.240 --> 00:36:39.640
It's, it's like, typically like nothing for like the longest time.

585
00:36:39.640 --> 00:36:41.640
And then all of a sudden it's like, just vertical.

586
00:36:42.120 --> 00:37:05.160
Um, there's a great meme about that, which I wouldn't have time to find, but it's, uh, um, I, I feel like for, for you guys, like, as you're dreaming big about it, don't think like, well, it's taking me six months to get to this many followers or impact or sales now, like just, you're extrapolating it forward that it doesn't, the kingdom economy doesn't really work that way.

587
00:37:06.120 --> 00:37:16.520
Um, so if you're thinking like, Hey, I've got this many years left, you know, on earth, this is where I'm like, I'm, I'm kind of like, I need to, you know, uh, there's some urgency.

588
00:37:16.520 --> 00:37:18.040
It's like, this stuff can change.

589
00:37:18.040 --> 00:37:26.520
Um, I shared that, that person, I think it was with Brad or one of the talks, but we saw this, like the, um, the granny DJ person.

590
00:37:26.520 --> 00:37:27.240
Did you see this person?

591
00:37:27.240 --> 00:37:29.320
She's like 3 million followers on Instagram.

592
00:37:29.800 --> 00:37:35.480
And, uh, there's just these people and, and all of them, there was just like, they were not there.

593
00:37:35.480 --> 00:37:41.080
And then all of a sudden they had a hundred thousand followers, like in a week, you know, this stuff happens like all the time.

594
00:37:41.640 --> 00:37:47.000
Um, there was a, did I tell you guys a story a little bit about the Trump and Elon?

595
00:37:47.000 --> 00:37:47.800
Did we talk about that?

596
00:37:48.120 --> 00:38:03.960
I'm going to talk about it, but, uh, we're not going to get into politic politics, but, but Trump, Elon, like got into a TIF or something like a month or two ago on X, uh, on the X like Twitter platform.

597
00:38:04.520 --> 00:38:13.320
And basically like it escalated to where like, it was just the two of them like commenting and there's like hundreds of millions of people like viewing this like post.

598
00:38:13.720 --> 00:38:20.680
And this one guy with 117 followers was like, I think you both need to take a few days and cool off.

599
00:38:20.680 --> 00:38:22.520
And Elon responds to him.

600
00:38:22.520 --> 00:38:24.200
And it's like, good advice.

601
00:38:24.200 --> 00:38:27.320
We'll do, well, we won't do any of those things we said.

602
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:29.880
And someone screenshotted it and I'll, I'll, I'll find it.

603
00:38:29.880 --> 00:38:32.520
Cause it's just the greatest thing on social media ever.

604
00:38:32.520 --> 00:38:42.600
And it was like, how did someone with 117 followers just, you know, help like give advice to the two most like powerful, potentially powerful people on earth.

605
00:38:42.600 --> 00:38:49.640
And it's just such a great sign of like, Hey, we're just going to give you like these little like sniper rifle things to put in.

606
00:38:49.640 --> 00:38:53.320
And that guy has like 50,000 followers now.

607
00:38:53.320 --> 00:38:55.080
And he, all he said was that one tweet.

608
00:38:55.080 --> 00:39:01.000
And he's been like tweeting for years, like for a decade, he's been tweeting and he had a hundred people following him.

609
00:39:01.000 --> 00:39:02.840
And I was just like, this is just the funniest thing.

610
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:05.400
Um, like what, what a time to be alive.

611
00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:09.080
Um, so anyway, if I find it, I'll, I'll put it in the, in the community.

612
00:39:10.040 --> 00:39:12.440
The goal is not to have a whole bunch of followers.

613
00:39:13.160 --> 00:39:19.640
I think, I think the goal is to say something that's valuable and the followers, the followers

614
00:39:19.640 --> 00:39:26.040
come, you know, I think our, our, our eyes need to be on, you know, not, I want a hundred thousand

615
00:39:26.040 --> 00:39:31.160
followers, but I want to have some meaning and impact that is valuable.

616
00:39:31.160 --> 00:39:33.000
So that people want to follow me.

617
00:39:34.840 --> 00:39:35.880
Yeah, absolutely.

618
00:39:36.760 --> 00:39:39.000
Um, it's, it's kind of a chicken and egg thing.

619
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:42.360
Like you're going to say meaningful things and then followers will come or like followers

620
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:44.760
will come and then there's more people to hear what you have to say.

621
00:39:44.760 --> 00:39:48.520
So it's a kind of a snowball, um, effect.

622
00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:50.300
Sure.

623
00:39:52.120 --> 00:39:53.240
Good, good, good.

624
00:39:53.240 --> 00:39:53.480
Okay.

625
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:56.600
Any other feedback thoughts, or we can jump into hot seats.

626
00:39:56.600 --> 00:39:58.120
We've got 20 minutes to go.

627
00:39:58.120 --> 00:39:59.080
So we've got plenty of time.

628
00:39:59.080 --> 00:39:59.880
We can do one or two.

629
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:06.320
I'm happy to share on your question about the first half of the year versus the second

630
00:40:06.320 --> 00:40:09.760
half of the year.

631
00:40:09.760 --> 00:40:15.480
I am massively watching God take ground in so many spaces.

632
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:21.040
I happen to be blessed to be part of 12 groups, this is one of them, and to see him move in

633
00:40:21.040 --> 00:40:27.560
four nations, because that's what I'm involved in, so UK, I suppose Netherlands, and I'll

634
00:40:27.560 --> 00:40:34.080
kind of pop you in with the UK and Europe in there, and Australia, New Zealand, and

635
00:40:34.080 --> 00:40:40.040
obviously the US, and I'm watching him do the same thing wherever he is, and he is rising

636
00:40:40.040 --> 00:40:47.120
up within us, it's the Holy Spirit that is doing the work, and people are really aware

637
00:40:47.120 --> 00:40:53.320
and they're looking for something real, and we're about to go into our fourth school in

638
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:58.560
our area for Jesus Club, and it can be called whatever you want to call it, but it's the

639
00:40:58.560 --> 00:41:07.400
students that are asking to have this time with Jesus in their lunch hours together.

640
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:14.160
So there is, it's so exciting to watch and see, and watch who he has positioned, so I've

641
00:41:14.160 --> 00:41:17.680
just connected with the headmistress in the school, and that's going in like literally

642
00:41:17.680 --> 00:41:22.800
next to him, it's all going to start happening, and we've started up City Prayer, and so we're

643
00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:27.600
watching, because one of the things we prayed for was that the students, it would come from

644
00:41:27.600 --> 00:41:32.880
within, it would come from, and the wave, and the fountains that we've got, he's shown us

645
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:38.560
strategic places within the city that are fountains of living water, and how they pour,

646
00:41:38.560 --> 00:41:46.400
they're pouring out into that space. So he's changing things up, peace and rest, gathering

647
00:41:46.400 --> 00:41:52.480
together, taking ground, connecting, and it's Holy Spirit Christians that are meeting together,

648
00:41:52.480 --> 00:42:00.560
it's those that are filled and on fire, and yeah, so that's kind of, and for me this is all

649
00:42:00.560 --> 00:42:05.200
preparation, this is all, let's get the tech done, so I'm about to go away, I won't be on the call

650
00:42:05.200 --> 00:42:10.080
next week, we're in Australia for a week, and I'm going to use some of that time to get all the tech

651
00:42:10.080 --> 00:42:14.800
done, because I'm away from everything else that I need to do, so yes we're on holiday to see family,

652
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:21.360
yes we'll do some stuff, but I need to get the tech sorted, so that I can then invite,

653
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:26.880
you know, so that the audio of the book is done, the pdf's been done, the second edition is back,

654
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:32.800
it's done, and so we're just pulling this stuff together, and the exciting thing for the second

655
00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:39.520
half is collaboration, and that's the key word for me, we've got a time to love, so I'm working

656
00:42:39.520 --> 00:42:44.720
with someone else who's a heart healer, and we're going to do a course together, and we're also,

657
00:42:44.720 --> 00:42:51.040
Jesse and I are, who helped me write my book, we're doing Beauty from Ashes, and so it is a

658
00:42:51.040 --> 00:42:57.280
collaborative book for those who want to do it, so it's like this has been the cocoon time, that

659
00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:03.600
let's get it all worked out time, and then these beautiful butterflies are going to be released.

660
00:43:07.040 --> 00:43:09.680
Yeah, anything else halfway through the year you guys are

661
00:43:10.560 --> 00:43:16.800
just thinking through like the next, like if I had picked out what the last six months would

662
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:20.960
have looked like, the six months before that, I would have got everything wrong, so I'm just kind of like

663
00:43:21.680 --> 00:43:29.920
taking it one week at a time at this point, so yeah, it's been very different, but it's been

664
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:36.240
great, it's been awesome, it's gonna be a great year. Yeah, Jennifer, I reiterate everything you said,

665
00:43:36.240 --> 00:43:41.440
and Robin, I appreciate what you shared, that I think, I don't know if it was like that couple

666
00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:45.200
months ago, or you know, after kind of our session, where we were working through stuff,

667
00:43:45.200 --> 00:43:49.680
I think I just realized like my dream is too small, and I've been rereading the book like 10x is

668
00:43:49.680 --> 00:43:55.200
you know, easier than 2x, and then if you've gone to scaling.com, as Sally had me, you know, watch

669
00:43:55.200 --> 00:44:00.240
that video, and I started to realize like, wait a minute, like all of my dreams are too small, and so

670
00:44:00.240 --> 00:44:05.520
I'm just using old mindset, or old ways of doing things to go after them, and I'm seeing marginal

671
00:44:05.520 --> 00:44:09.920
success, like I hit my minimum budget goal, and you know, things like that, but there hasn't been a

672
00:44:09.920 --> 00:44:15.200
lot of life like in what I'm doing, or excitement, and so God has had me, like Robin said, like take

673
00:44:15.200 --> 00:44:20.720
June off, to just really focus on my identity, and my mindset, and my well-being, like kind of body,

674
00:44:20.720 --> 00:44:26.720
and mind, and like who I am, and what my goals are, and you know, basically what's come out of it is

675
00:44:26.720 --> 00:44:32.640
like, okay, these are some very different like ideas of like what I was originally planning to do,

676
00:44:32.640 --> 00:44:39.280
and so this month, you know, he has me kind of on another, you know, I'm working with Jesse,

677
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:45.600
who Sally mentioned, for book writing this month, and you know, I hit like major breakthrough

678
00:44:45.600 --> 00:44:50.800
with some things like personally, and other stuff, and so I don't know, like I feel like June and

679
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:55.920
July is kind of this reset month, but it's almost like you said, like it's like you kind of

680
00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:59.840
feel like you're going down, but it's so that you can go even higher than like where you wanted.

681
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.900
to go. And so much of it has to come from identity and mindset.

682
00:45:03.900 --> 00:45:07.140
And like, are we really believing like what God has for

683
00:45:07.140 --> 00:45:11.160
us and about the relationship piece? So 100% I mean, I thought

684
00:45:11.160 --> 00:45:14.380
I'd be a lot farther along than where I am now. But I think it's

685
00:45:14.380 --> 00:45:17.700
because like you said, he wants to take me on a different path

686
00:45:17.700 --> 00:45:21.580
or a different mountain that I've been climbing. And I think

687
00:45:21.600 --> 00:45:24.900
it's owning I think for me, it was like, Oh, I'm on the path to

688
00:45:24.900 --> 00:45:27.140
become a life coach. And God's like, No, you're on the path to

689
00:45:27.140 --> 00:45:30.140
become a CEO, and you need to knock it off and like actually

690
00:45:30.140 --> 00:45:33.300
go after what I called you to do. And I'm like, Oh, okay,

691
00:45:33.300 --> 00:45:36.900
like, we're gonna do this. And you all saw it. But like, I was

692
00:45:36.900 --> 00:45:39.700
kind of fighting against the like business aspect of, you

693
00:45:39.700 --> 00:45:43.940
know, working for big business and company and stuff. And now

694
00:45:43.940 --> 00:45:46.620
I'm getting excited about it. And you know, how to launch more

695
00:45:46.620 --> 00:45:50.420
of an executive, like, you know, high end kind of thing, you

696
00:45:50.420 --> 00:45:54.580
know, more in the fall, and, but it had to take me to see myself

697
00:45:54.580 --> 00:45:58.220
that way, you know, not just on the, like, job side, but on the

698
00:45:58.220 --> 00:45:59.300
identity side.

699
00:46:00.780 --> 00:46:05.820
That's awesome. I love that. Yeah, it is. I think that Yeah,

700
00:46:05.820 --> 00:46:08.700
for sure. The CEO thing. I think that then you're working with

701
00:46:08.700 --> 00:46:12.580
the executives that that all feels right on point, I think

702
00:46:12.580 --> 00:46:16.620
for you. And it's funny, because like, like, we're always like,

703
00:46:16.620 --> 00:46:19.260
Yeah, I thought that's what you said six months ago, like

704
00:46:19.300 --> 00:46:22.900
everybody. But people always say that about me on something. I'm

705
00:46:22.900 --> 00:46:26.140
like, yeah, but I didn't really wasn't maybe in my head, but not

706
00:46:26.140 --> 00:46:30.300
like it wasn't settled into my heart as far as like, feeling

707
00:46:30.300 --> 00:46:32.140
like, okay, like, this is actually what the Lord's called

708
00:46:32.140 --> 00:46:36.460
me to, or maybe we feel like hesitant to like, or that I

709
00:46:36.460 --> 00:46:39.660
think as well in Christian circles, we're like, trying to

710
00:46:39.660 --> 00:46:42.580
be too humble, a lot of times, and we're like, Oh, but that

711
00:46:42.580 --> 00:46:45.700
seems like we're being greedy, or we're wanting to make a

712
00:46:45.700 --> 00:46:47.980
certain amount of money, or we're trying to do this. And

713
00:46:47.980 --> 00:46:51.460
like a really good Christian would be super humble and not

714
00:46:51.460 --> 00:46:56.060
want those things. But I think there's like a holy version of

715
00:46:56.060 --> 00:46:58.580
this, of course, that that's submitted to the Lord. And

716
00:47:00.060 --> 00:47:04.060
that's great. But I think I think, yeah, I think it'll be a

717
00:47:04.060 --> 00:47:06.220
good so do you what do you feel for like the rest of the year?

718
00:47:06.220 --> 00:47:09.540
Do you think it's? Is there something specific you want to

719
00:47:09.540 --> 00:47:11.060
see happen or launched? Or?

720
00:47:12.020 --> 00:47:15.060
Yeah, I mean, I'm still praying about it. I mean, I feel like I

721
00:47:15.060 --> 00:47:17.420
have an idea, I just want to make sure like, you know, God

722
00:47:17.420 --> 00:47:21.340
and I are partnered with it. I'm focused this next month, I'm

723
00:47:21.340 --> 00:47:25.140
kind of writing a book that I'm trying to finish up. And then

724
00:47:25.700 --> 00:47:28.980
I'm hoping to launch, you know, kind of an executive type women

725
00:47:28.980 --> 00:47:33.180
master group mastermind kind of in the fall, but more kind of

726
00:47:33.180 --> 00:47:35.740
high end than what I was originally wanting, you know,

727
00:47:35.740 --> 00:47:40.220
less life coaching and more kind of business coaching. And so

728
00:47:40.380 --> 00:47:42.700
yeah, like, I think it's gonna launch, but I'm gonna wait till

729
00:47:42.700 --> 00:47:45.780
my kids go back to school. And then, you know, kind of launch

730
00:47:45.780 --> 00:47:48.860
it then really just be in mom mode and say yes, this summer to

731
00:47:48.860 --> 00:47:51.620
a lot of fun things with my kids. So I think it's a little

732
00:47:51.620 --> 00:47:55.740
TBD, but I kind of have this, you know, six month runway and

733
00:47:55.980 --> 00:47:58.340
just waiting for God to release me. He's been telling me not to

734
00:47:58.340 --> 00:48:01.340
be posting on social media very much, which is like, what I just

735
00:48:01.340 --> 00:48:04.660
did that 30 days. And he's like, Yeah, you did it. It's possible.

736
00:48:04.660 --> 00:48:07.980
But now like you need to work on you and stop creating for

737
00:48:07.980 --> 00:48:13.020
content, like create for you and like healing. And so I'm like,

738
00:48:13.020 --> 00:48:15.180
okay, just being obedient to that. So

739
00:48:15.700 --> 00:48:17.900
love it. That's great. Very cool.

740
00:48:19.020 --> 00:48:22.660
citing stuff. That's good. totally, totally endorse the

741
00:48:22.700 --> 00:48:26.060
spend the summer with the family. That's, we're learning

742
00:48:26.060 --> 00:48:32.740
as well that like, just prior to even in like a given week of

743
00:48:32.740 --> 00:48:37.460
like, I could potentially get 30 40% more done. You know, if I

744
00:48:37.460 --> 00:48:40.860
just like cut out certain time with with the family or kids

745
00:48:40.860 --> 00:48:43.940
like, but that's just not that's not again, there's that's kind

746
00:48:43.940 --> 00:48:47.300
of getting into the toil piece of like, yeah, we could get it

747
00:48:47.300 --> 00:48:49.740
done this month, but like actually feel like the Lord's

748
00:48:49.740 --> 00:48:52.380
wanting this and like, that's actually better for your family

749
00:48:52.380 --> 00:48:56.460
right now. So yeah, just being is really is listening to the

750
00:48:56.460 --> 00:49:02.100
Holy Spirit on that stuff. Because, you know, that that is

751
00:49:02.100 --> 00:49:04.780
the the key. It's like that that's what will help lead you

752
00:49:04.780 --> 00:49:07.100
especially week to week, because there's gonna be other times

753
00:49:07.140 --> 00:49:10.540
where like, hey, it's actually go time. And like, we've done

754
00:49:10.540 --> 00:49:12.740
that as a family and we'll be like, hey, this this week is

755
00:49:12.740 --> 00:49:14.740
like we're launching something like I'm going to be working

756
00:49:14.740 --> 00:49:16.380
later at night, I'm gonna be working maybe some on the

757
00:49:16.380 --> 00:49:19.500
weekends. And then, you know, we put them we sort of make up

758
00:49:19.500 --> 00:49:24.300
for it. So make that the norm. So very good. Okay, anyone else

759
00:49:24.300 --> 00:49:27.220
have we have like another 10 minutes, we can still share or

760
00:49:27.220 --> 00:49:30.660
we can also get tactical as well. I know we kind of dove

761
00:49:30.740 --> 00:49:40.460
deep in here. Yeah, I think one thing I heard Pedro talk about

762
00:49:40.460 --> 00:49:44.020
on another group was just like the second half of it is really

763
00:49:44.020 --> 00:49:47.260
not about doing new things. It's honestly it is about

764
00:49:47.260 --> 00:49:49.780
cutting back. It's like the second half of the year is

765
00:49:49.780 --> 00:49:52.780
really like, how do I get more clear? It's not like, well, I

766
00:49:52.780 --> 00:49:55.540
got some of those things that I wanted to let me go add 10 more.

767
00:49:55.900 --> 00:49:59.220
It's really like, how do we do less of the things and even

768
00:49:59.220 --> 00:50:00.060
finding something

769
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:04.920
things in your work, your life, what you're trying to build,

770
00:50:04.920 --> 00:50:07.240
that you can actually say, I'm not doing that anymore.

771
00:50:07.240 --> 00:50:08.820
For some of you guys that may be like,

772
00:50:08.820 --> 00:50:10.880
hey, I'm going to do this thing on YouTube,

773
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:13.240
but I'm not going to post every week.

774
00:50:13.240 --> 00:50:18.160
I'm not posting anything right now consistently

775
00:50:18.160 --> 00:50:19.280
on any channels.

776
00:50:19.280 --> 00:50:23.040
We're attempting to get consistent about YouTube,

777
00:50:23.040 --> 00:50:25.320
but it's been a fun journey.

778
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:27.640
But it's just kind of like, hey, for this season,

779
00:50:27.640 --> 00:50:30.600
for where we're at, this is what we can do,

780
00:50:30.600 --> 00:50:33.280
and just kind of making do with that.

781
00:50:33.280 --> 00:50:35.520
So you don't necessarily have to have a podcast

782
00:50:35.520 --> 00:50:38.920
and a video on YouTube, and five shorts going out every week,

783
00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:42.680
and an email newsletter, and a text campaign.

784
00:50:42.680 --> 00:50:44.140
Just you pick one of those things

785
00:50:44.140 --> 00:50:46.040
that you feel is right for the season,

786
00:50:46.040 --> 00:50:48.300
and you just do that one thing, or none of the things,

787
00:50:48.300 --> 00:50:51.600
and you do something else.

788
00:50:51.600 --> 00:50:55.880
There's plenty of time, as well, to go solve,

789
00:50:55.920 --> 00:50:57.400
kind of figure out what you should be doing,

790
00:50:57.400 --> 00:51:00.840
like taking things out and clearing that,

791
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:03.220
again, listening to the Lord on that.

792
00:51:03.220 --> 00:51:04.280
But especially as entrepreneurs,

793
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:07.600
we kind of have the shiny object thing.

794
00:51:07.600 --> 00:51:10.560
I have like, we have this prophetic AI app

795
00:51:10.560 --> 00:51:13.880
that I built like two years ago, and it's sitting there,

796
00:51:13.880 --> 00:51:15.560
and now we have designs finished for it.

797
00:51:15.560 --> 00:51:17.560
And I just like, I can't start it.

798
00:51:17.560 --> 00:51:20.340
I can't start that thing until I do these other things.

799
00:51:20.340 --> 00:51:21.180
And it's just sitting there.

800
00:51:21.180 --> 00:51:23.180
I'm like, but all the people we could help.

801
00:51:23.180 --> 00:51:25.000
And we keep saying, we got to build the app.

802
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:26.000
We got to build this app.

803
00:51:26.000 --> 00:51:27.700
And so we haven't done it yet.

804
00:51:27.700 --> 00:51:29.480
But I'm just like being disciplined.

805
00:51:29.480 --> 00:51:30.620
I was like, if I do that,

806
00:51:30.620 --> 00:51:32.880
now I'm like going to try to be doing three things

807
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:35.520
sort of well, but instead of just doing one thing

808
00:51:35.520 --> 00:51:36.360
all the way.

809
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:37.920
So, very good.

810
00:51:41.120 --> 00:51:41.960
Awesome.

811
00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:44.400
Cool.

812
00:51:44.400 --> 00:51:45.960
Anything else we can help you guys with?

813
00:51:45.960 --> 00:51:47.400
I mean, just let you guys go.

814
00:51:48.320 --> 00:51:49.440
Good.

815
00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:50.280
Going on.

816
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:52.640
One quick thing, because I'm an old fart,

817
00:51:52.640 --> 00:51:55.560
and I can talk from my kids leaving home.

818
00:51:55.560 --> 00:51:58.360
You know, you do not get this time back.

819
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:01.920
So I'm really proud of Jennifer for listening to God

820
00:52:01.920 --> 00:52:05.580
and just having her time with her kids in this holidays,

821
00:52:05.580 --> 00:52:06.760
because it won't be long.

822
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:08.480
It'll be like next week and they will be going,

823
00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:10.080
see ya, bye.

824
00:52:10.080 --> 00:52:12.320
And you know, work can wait,

825
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:13.840
but you don't get this time back.

826
00:52:13.840 --> 00:52:17.120
So just my encouragement is to,

827
00:52:17.120 --> 00:52:21.400
the best thing you ever do is build the next generation.

828
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:23.480
So that's just my little granny.

829
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:25.640
Thanks.

830
00:52:25.640 --> 00:52:26.460
That's good.

831
00:52:26.460 --> 00:52:27.300
Love it.

832
00:52:29.660 --> 00:52:30.560
All right.

833
00:52:30.560 --> 00:52:33.320
I had a couple of questions about where you see

834
00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:35.800
Tribe going in the future.

835
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:38.400
Like not Tribe group, but the app.

836
00:52:40.200 --> 00:52:43.520
One of the things I just took away from the 30 day challenge

837
00:52:43.520 --> 00:52:46.280
was kind of this jointedness of all the different

838
00:52:46.280 --> 00:52:48.400
like apps and softwares and things

839
00:52:48.400 --> 00:52:50.720
and how cumbersome everything was.

840
00:52:51.000 --> 00:52:53.240
Not to be mean, but it was a lot of work, right?

841
00:52:53.240 --> 00:52:55.620
To do like posts here and there and everywhere.

842
00:52:56.560 --> 00:52:59.200
And so I've seen some different softwares out there

843
00:52:59.200 --> 00:53:00.860
and some different, you know, ideas

844
00:53:00.860 --> 00:53:02.880
and just kind of wanted to run some stuff by you.

845
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:06.000
Like the ability to do email directly from the app.

846
00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:07.800
Is that like a future thing?

847
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:12.300
And then directly like DMs, like with the app to where,

848
00:53:12.300 --> 00:53:15.560
like, is that going to be integrated in there too?

849
00:53:15.560 --> 00:53:16.640
At some point?

850
00:53:16.640 --> 00:53:18.000
The direct DMs?

851
00:53:18.960 --> 00:53:19.800
Yeah.

852
00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:21.120
Like there's a way to where like,

853
00:53:21.120 --> 00:53:24.000
if someone like DMs you, it can automatically.

854
00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:25.400
Oh, like auto replies.

855
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:26.240
Yeah.

856
00:53:26.240 --> 00:53:27.060
Like a bot.

857
00:53:27.060 --> 00:53:27.900
Okay.

858
00:53:27.900 --> 00:53:28.740
Right.

859
00:53:28.740 --> 00:53:29.560
Yeah.

860
00:53:29.560 --> 00:53:30.400
That could be cool.

861
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:31.240
Yeah.

862
00:53:31.240 --> 00:53:33.400
We just added the like group messaging stuff.

863
00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:34.240
Yeah.

864
00:53:34.240 --> 00:53:35.060
I think there's like some,

865
00:53:36.200 --> 00:53:39.080
yeah, there's a lot of vision for it.

866
00:53:39.080 --> 00:53:42.360
We are a very healthy constraint on Tribe

867
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:45.020
is that we said that we would not like invest more money

868
00:53:45.020 --> 00:53:45.860
than it brings in.

869
00:53:45.860 --> 00:53:47.340
So we're going at exactly the speed

870
00:53:47.340 --> 00:53:49.460
of how much money is coming in for that.

871
00:53:49.460 --> 00:53:52.260
And we just reinvest all of it pretty much.

872
00:53:52.260 --> 00:53:56.460
So it's, I have a thousand things I want it to do.

873
00:53:57.300 --> 00:53:59.140
Speaking of trying to cut back

874
00:53:59.140 --> 00:54:01.720
on being really good at a few things.

875
00:54:03.340 --> 00:54:05.060
Part of it is we started with like

876
00:54:06.340 --> 00:54:09.060
much bigger organizations that already had email tools

877
00:54:09.060 --> 00:54:12.220
that already had all this other infrastructure in place,

878
00:54:12.220 --> 00:54:14.600
CRMs and things like that with hundreds of thousands

879
00:54:14.600 --> 00:54:15.660
of users.

880
00:54:16.340 --> 00:54:17.740
And so we weren't going to try like build a CRM.

881
00:54:17.740 --> 00:54:20.300
So now that we're in building what we've done

882
00:54:20.300 --> 00:54:22.660
in for pioneers and using a single group,

883
00:54:22.660 --> 00:54:24.340
it's like all these other things would be kind of nice

884
00:54:24.340 --> 00:54:25.780
to have an all-in-one.

885
00:54:25.780 --> 00:54:28.920
And so it's a little bit different of a path.

886
00:54:30.040 --> 00:54:33.940
So we're definitely open to it.

887
00:54:33.940 --> 00:54:36.180
And any ideas you guys have,

888
00:54:36.180 --> 00:54:38.020
like if you see something on another app,

889
00:54:38.020 --> 00:54:40.360
like drop it in, you know, make a little video or whatever,

890
00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:44.660
drop it in the feed and we can tag it as a feature request.

891
00:54:45.940 --> 00:54:48.580
But yeah, we have a lot of ideas.

892
00:54:48.580 --> 00:54:50.580
I'd love to see what you guys are thinking.

893
00:54:50.580 --> 00:54:52.140
Because it really matters,

894
00:54:52.140 --> 00:54:53.620
especially when you're coming off of a challenge,

895
00:54:53.620 --> 00:54:55.220
you're like, hey, it would have been nice to have this

896
00:54:55.220 --> 00:54:56.560
or to have that.

897
00:54:56.560 --> 00:54:58.060
And some of the things that you're asking for

898
00:54:58.060 --> 00:55:00.100
are actually like very, very easy.

899
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:13.440
To do and something maybe a little bit harder. So, um, uh, sometimes there's some easy things like, oh, we just added this button and you can do this thing. Like, that's actually solves the problem. Um, so we're worth like, uh, digging into that as well.

900
00:55:14.240 --> 00:55:17.320
Cool. Yeah. Send it, send any ideas. Okay.

901
00:55:19.680 --> 00:55:20.040
Cool.

902
00:55:20.040 --> 00:55:34.600
Awesome guys. Well, we'll let you go. And, um, Macy's doing an, a call in an hour or two or two hours, I think. Um, so you guys are welcome to hang out there if you need more tactical stuff, but good to see all of you and we'll, uh, we'll catch up soon. See ya.