Okay, welcome welcome to men's heart check in.
This is July.
The seven. Yes, the seven.
And we're checking in with each other on Monday night so welcome everyone to the cooking class. I will not be giving any instructions on cooking.
And, but if you have any tips, we'd love to have them shared with us here, and with anybody else that would like to take them down but good to see you guys we have Joel on here.
James.
This is quite new, David Kim, are you actually, this is actually your first time or now.
First time, first time. I will you're, you're up, you get to introduce yourself and just tell two seconds, a little bit about yourself and where you're from what you do.
Okay, yeah.
David Kim.
It's very common name out here in SoCal. It's the center of the Korean American universe down here.
So I'm out I'm out in Orange County, and 47.
And I, I, I met Jackie and David to a friend of mine who referred me to them.
And then I randomly divine divine appointment, and ran into them at reading in this in the same restaurant but I, oh, oh, oh hi.
It's strange we were literally just walking by and he was just like talking to somebody about us I think there was.
And he's like, speak of which they're standing right in front of this restaurant right yeah yeah I was about to send a Facebook message I'm looking at my phone I'm looking up at the window and looking at my phone like I don't like.
What are they doing here this is not Texas.
And then I opened the door because they walked into the same restaurant that I was and I was like, Oh, hi.
And I was like, Oh, nice to meet you.
So that was the first time you have was first time in person basically right. Pretty much, and then, and then, and then Jackie's like, I'm like, yeah, I'm sending this message I was like, Oh yeah, I know your face got shoved in your face that's why I messaged you today I was
like, Oh, here we are.
What brings you, what brings you, what do you do David.
So I, I've been in intellectual property. I'm a patent agent is kind of like being a patent attorney but I don't sue anybody.
But I help people, you know, get patents, so it's kind of like a real estate agent you know they can help you with getting a house but you know you want to see your neighbor you should call a lawyer.
So, roughly speaking, I do that, I mean to some entrepreneurship so I've been doing.
Yeah, did that for about 20 years.
Awesome.
What are you looking forward to last year single.
Well because I'm looking forward to my last year single.
Ah, hey, good answer. Yeah, yeah yeah well clearly when I read it to you guys it was very obvious I was like, Okay, there are divine forces that are conspiring for me not to be single anymore.
So inspiring yeah yeah yeah so it was a divine conspiracy.
I said okay I can go along with this.
I'm Joel.
This isn't your first time isn't.
No I've been on a few times. That's right. I just don't recognize the background that's all.
backgrounds I'm like oh that's the background.
Yeah.
Um, that's cool. Good. Well welcome welcome.
I'm just want to get into whatever you want to get into tonight.
I do want to talk a little bit about, um, kind of what I feel like the Lord is doing in the season.
And kind of invite you all into it because I really feel like God's doing some long game strategy with his sons and daughters right now.
Not the least of which is doing what we're.
doing a six month reset challenge. We've been promoting that check is going to be a coach on that. You can get information on that you can join that if you want to.
But prior to that it was just, you know, very prophetic in our hearts that you know we were really saying no we were supposed to be in California for a whole month of June and we came home early, because we just felt like God was inviting us to, for lack of a
better word, a reset.
And he's sort of pulling back in order to go forward.
forward and really seeing this next season, three, six months,
as an opportunity to really, truly press in strategically
and literally become and step into something we've never,
never been before, something that we've never seen
personally in our lives.
Go to a new level if you want to, Javier.
Whatever success term you want it to be,
but this is supernatural.
This isn't anything like, hey, we're
going to do a reset so that we can have a better
business or whatever.
But this is a total reset in our relationship with the Lord,
our relationship with each other, our business,
our life's purpose, all of that.
And so kind of want to know what your guys' thoughts are
regarding this, because we're in Texas here
where those floods just happened.
There's a lot of chaos and turmoil.
There's a lot of things happening,
depending on sort of like where you stand socially,
economically, politically, all that kind of stuff.
You can be like hurraying, or you could be like, oh, no.
And so there's just a lot of things happening,
and none of it's stable.
That's the thing that's interesting about it.
It's just like I think everybody's experiencing
shifting and very little stability.
And if you're internalizing it, you
might be wondering, is there something wrong with me?
Am I going to lose it?
Are things in my life just getting worse just
because of whatever reason, whatever you're
trying to push it on, blame it on, anything like that?
But truthfully, I think if you sort of like picked your head
up a little bit, and you kind of looked around,
and you were just like listening to some other people
within your community and around you,
and especially prophetic voices, and really
trying to press and hearing the voice of God,
this shifting and shaking is divine.
Am I saying that floods killing dozens of children is divine?
No.
I'm not saying that.
I'm saying this world is rocking and reeling,
just like in scripture in Romans, where it says,
the world literally is groaning and aching for the sons
and daughters to reveal themselves.
And we're nowhere near, guys.
And this isn't a defeatist message,
but we're nowhere near what God had intended for us
to be as sons and daughters.
And I don't mean that like in this community,
or just like in your life, or my life, or just like, I mean,
like overall.
There's like a whole supernatural prophetic paradigm
that is shifting.
And we're preparing to shift with it.
We're telling everybody that we know, hey,
let's shift into this.
Let's not see things as business as usual.
Let's not just see things as like, oh, things are OK,
or they're kind of bad right now, or rough right now,
but they'll get better.
And seeing it through the same lens as the way
you've always seen it, now is an invitation right now
in this season to shift into a next level.
Matter of fact, we're going to a personal development.
We're going to do the same thing that a lot of people
are doing in this program.
We sign up for stuff, and we go things, and we get coaching.
We get inspiration.
We get information.
And we're going to go to a thing this weekend
called Next Level.
Michael Hyatt, I don't know.
Some of you probably have heard about it.
Maybe some of you have even gone to one of those.
We're going to do a Next Level this weekend.
Jackie and I need that for the purposes of shifting us.
We're going to submit to a process.
We're going to submit to a thing.
We're familiar with it.
We've probably heard a lot of the stuff
that's going to be shared there.
We probably even know some of the people that are there,
which is fine.
I'm not looking necessarily for new information.
I'm not going to try to like, oh, let me learn something
I don't know.
What I'm trying to do is put myself and yield myself
to a new experience.
And I'm going to put myself and yield myself
to a process, to an instrument that will bring about change,
that will bring about whatever is in me.
I have a friend of mine that told me, he says, yeah,
you know, there's lots of times.
And he's a successful dude.
We hang out with a lot of successful people,
a lot of kingdom people, a lot of spiritual people
are like, prophetically inclined, they know what's up,
that are in the business.
And I'm like, yeah, I'm going to do that.
they know what God's doing, they got the resources,
I'm going to do that.
they're making a difference in the world.
And they're like, yeah, there are some things,
several things, lots of times where you can,
you yourself can do about 80% of it.
Like you can bring yourself, white knuckle it,
you can, you know, buckle down,
you can, you know, seek to fix your life, change your life,
get yourself educated, get yourself
into relationship coaching.
Like there's a lot of it,
like you can do a lot of the work yourself, 80%,
go online and, you know, watch a bunch of YouTube videos.
But there's about 20% that you need that extra push.
You need somebody else, you need somebody,
you need a coach, you need a system,
you need an experience, you need a from without.
That's not inside of yourself,
that's outside of yourself to help you shift
into that next thing.
And that's why that's obviously goes
to the biblical precedent of, you know,
we need each other, we do.
We need each other, we need community,
we need people who are going to like reach out
and bring us up.
We need people who are gonna edify us,
we need people who are gonna call out, you know,
the riches with inside of us
that we may not even know that we're there.
And so that's what this season about,
we really feel strongly about it.
And we're inviting everybody we know
into basically this next half of this year,
the rest of this year,
to make a strong commitment to a reset.
Sometimes maybe it's just for,
maybe for some people, it's just one thing.
Maybe it's not like a total life reset,
maybe it's just one thing you've been struggling with,
one thing you've been like kicking up
against the ceiling against, you know,
and you wanna break through that ceiling.
You know, maybe it's relationships,
maybe it's not the relationships,
maybe it's the thing that's going
to bring the relationship.
Maybe it's physical, maybe it's financial,
maybe it's, you know,
maybe it's a spiritual gifting
that you've been really wanting to step into,
but you've just never, you know,
cleared your schedule enough
or taken the time to say,
you know what, I'm doing a reset.
I'm gonna like, like if you were married,
I would also talk to you,
I would talk to the married folks
and I'd say, maybe it's time for you
to have the marriage you've never had before.
You know what I'm saying?
But that kind of level of reset.
So let me get some reaction to you guys.
Who is feeling this?
Who is already on this journey?
Who is this being a confirmation for
in terms of like where you're feeling,
where you're going, what you're doing?
Who wants to be like, yeah, you know,
it's time to level up.
It's time to like make a shift.
It's time to, I mean, I know David
is in the midst of like a little life shift right now.
He's moving and he's switching careers,
doing a lot of things.
So he's moving around.
So I mean, it's pretty obvious.
I was gonna say, what part of this looks like Vegas?
Yeah, I know.
So like, so there's that, you know,
that's pretty obvious.
But I just kind of want to open this up to you guys
and just let you react
and just let you collect,
maybe even like ask questions.
You don't have to always have the answer, guys.
Well, lots of times asking the questions
that's going to like lead you into the knowledge
and understanding that you need next.
So it's an answer and a question for me, David.
David here now in a lovely Davenport, Iowa
with all this green stuff,
just tearing down trees and shrubs.
But so Holy Spirit told me to slow down recently in dating,
like not stop all out,
just kind of the person that I was pursuing
that I was pursuing her with the wrong heart.
And also things in our relationship
were kind of escalating and not in a good way.
But I guess it turned out for the better
in the sense of a lot of immaturity on her end of things
that she's not a bad person.
She's just kind of probably not the best fit for me
in the long run.
But it's weird because I'm not even focused
on getting into another relationship
or chasing down someone else.
I actually went out to two churches this weekend
and it's like the first time
that I can actually make a choice
between the two different churches.
Like, I like the.
both and it was it was more of a I liked the transition between the churches like if you ever
get silly and stupid over or childish over just like being focused on like a country drive that
just lifts your spirits and fills you up and just gets you in tune for being in that
so almost like tunnel vision about just oh really looking forward to the worship music at this
church too uh so for you the reset is like cutting back simplifying like reducing like
stepping back and seeing something that maybe wasn't there before
yeah like stuff that used to be there and then I kind of lost focus on it
um and like shifted in a way that I wasn't supposed to shift in the first place now I'm like
shifting back to what matters and yeah I think a lot of the I think a lot of the reset
ideology is not only stepping into something it's kind of like oh I've always wanted to do that
it's also a little embracing a little something of like I'm not so sure like I'm not like I'm not
super excited about like doing with less or doing with something that I'm not familiar with
you know like retooling in the sense of like it's one thing to get excited about like a new thing
that you want to like learn and do and whatever it's another thing to like accept sort of like
the greater a greater calling a greater good and I don't mean like your life sucks like you're like
oh like you're signing up for like hey my life's gonna suck from now on I'm not talking about that
I'm just talking about being willing to do the hard thing the difficult thing in order to have
the better version of you the better next level of you yeah it's it's definitely a
a little terrifying because like just a month ago like I was ready to marry this gal within a year
and now it's like but holy spirit's telling me to do this and I'm not sure why and as I started
slowing things down she started getting more upset and immature and I was telling one of the
other guys in the men's heartwork group privately about some things that started off as yellow flags
and then all of a sudden hey these yellow flags are becoming red flags which I never thought
I would ever ever acknowledge a red flag being an anxious attacher but it's I don't know it's
it's not like I'm focused on that dilemma or problem like there's like a concern of like
well am I ever I guess the question is like will I ever get married but it's not even it's not a
worry it's more like uh trying to understand like the bigger picture of things I guess
and at the same time it's it's also one of those things where well maybe I'm not meant to understand
that right now and just focus on on what's in front of me and like you said uh just like
focus on the simplification of things that there's well largely just uh
things that I've not really dealt with like yeah there's things that are being uncovered in
heartwork and I've done I've gone through it two times but it's still kind of still there uh like
uh lusting over someone that's not my wife yet and uh not even actions but even just the
the thoughts like how Christ talks about if if we think about someone
uh in a lustful way even if it doesn't lead to an action it's still a sin
and I think that kind of goes right back to what Holy Spirit was talking to me about about pursuing
someone with the wrong heart but she has wrong heart it's a right from the get-go
yeah good stuff thanks for sharing David um we were kind of familiar kind of with where you're at
in your in your journey and um
And I appreciate you sharing what you're sharing in terms of like dealing with some of the stuff that's in you.
I'm going through the same thing right now.
Got some stuff revealing for healing was coming up in my life and my heart and taking action to, you know, to, to deal with that.
And, and to, you know, it's what's part of this part of this reset is, is, is this, like, I'm finished being the old me I'm finished being the old version of me.
You know, I want to come into another level of, you know, who's who God says I am.
And so I'm taking a lot of steps and doing that.
Anybody else got some comments questions
talking about doing a reset life reset.
There's a thing that we're promoting and I'm not trying to like talk about that right now I'm just trying to really get into the heart of that but promoting with a friend of ours called six month life reset.
So it's kind of like the idea the concept is taking not just like oh I'm gonna take a week to do a reset.
We're taking a time taking a season taking taking where we're at prophetically in the timeline of God prophetic realities you know what God's doing and really listening to the heart of God and going.
Is there a reset that I need to take anybody else.
I'm feeling this message feeling this call feeling that feeling a tug.
What's going on with you all.
I kind of want to hear from everybody at least something.
Yeah.
Just just quickly.
Yeah, it definitely whole all of it resonates with me I've been fasting a lot just really seeking the Lord going through the heart work almost done got about a few days left might start dating again like mid to late July, but just one thing.
Well, two things I'm starting I think a new career in the fall, teaching instead of being a school bus driver, so that's just kind of a step of faith been feeling the Lord's tug on that for a while now.
I signed up for the class on prophecy, and I've done this before. It's been maybe like six years when I first got kind of introduced to it and walking in the prophetic but I'm actually in a way looking forward to taking this class I think we're starting it tomorrow and Tuesday evenings.
Locally in Dallas, and it'll just be a good recap but also just learning a lot of wisdom behind the prophetic process because people can get really misled.
For a lot of different reasons like their own flesh and when I say misled I'm talking about myself to like I've, I've been maturing in this process but definitely.
I'm looking forward to the next few years to grow in that more like that gifting, like in learning how to receiving prophetic words but also testing everything, but also, I guess allow people to test what I'm saying.
I don't really hear a lot of.
There's only like one guy, I think within the last two years that told me hey bro that's that's not in line.
And my heart kind of broke because I'm like, Oh, well I was off but
I guess I just.
Yeah, that's how I learned.
Now that's good.
So you're leveling up and like a spiritual gifting that you're going to.
And that's awesome.
Thanks for sharing that.
Who's next, who's that who else.
I know Joe you had your way you didn't erase your hand but you're like, I needed.
Um, yeah, it's resonated with me as well.
I've been thinking a lot lately, we are just on vacation with my family that's probably what my background was changing for you.
At that time, I'd been thinking a lot about
just some priorities and things in my own goals.
And there had been some, you know,
certain financial role that I had set for myself years ago.
And recently it got derailed with a lot of repairs
I had to make on my own house.
And as I had this time off on vacation with my family
and just thinking and praying and whatnot,
I really felt like it was time to sort of pursue that again
and try to get back on track with that goal.
And I don't know, I feel like there may be,
you know, in my spirit, some correlation with that,
like, you know, that I want to,
or I'm supposed to sort of get near that goal
and meet that goal before I meet my wife.
I'm not sure exactly about that, but anyway,
that had been going on through my mind during vacation.
And then when, afterwards, when Jackie started talking
about the reset, that really resonated with me
and sort of made me feel like that was something
God was speaking to me as well.
Good, good.
So financial,
reaching back into some financial stuff
that you're like, okay, it's time.
You know, a lot of this, in a lot of this kind of like,
like in response to like that very phrase,
you know, you journey in your life for a while
and you're just trying to make it through,
you're doing your thing, whatever, life's normal, whatever.
And then you come to this moment where you're like,
you know, I really ought to change that,
or that really needs to shift,
or that, you know, that part of me needs to die or whatever.
And you're like, but you never really come to that moment
where you say, it's time.
Like, it's really time to like, let go of that,
you know, do something different,
move to a different city, you know,
do a shift in your career, you know.
I guess that's what I'm talking about.
Like, that's the kind of the moment
I feel like a lot of people are coming to
is just like, it's time to make a shift,
it's time to make a change, it's time to do this.
So just kind of wondering who else is resonating with this.
So Joel's talking about finances,
Joshua's talking about spiritual giftings,
David's talking about stuff in his personal life,
cutting it back, reducing,
he's even in the process of moving physically,
a new career, all that kind of stuff.
David, can you get your hand raised?
Go ahead, brother.
Yeah, when I ran into you guys in Orange County,
I was like, oh, it's my time, it's reset time.
Yeah, about time.
Oh, okay, funny meeting you guys here.
Okay, this seems to become a pattern.
So it looks like something's gonna happen in my life.
So I confirm that.
Confirm that, yeah, that's good.
Who else?
Can you guys hear me?
Yeah.
Okay, I'm driving and my video's not playing.
I'm driving and my video's not working, I guess,
but I'm driving and I got a paddleboard
hanging out the back of my vehicle,
so it's a little windy, but if you can hear me, okay?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I guess I'm in a reset.
I mean, just going through what I went through last year
and continue to walk through.
It's kind of, yeah, yeah, I'm in a reset right now.
And it's interesting you guys are talking
about the six month thing or whatever,
but I mean, I'd like to learn more about
what that program is that you're talking,
or when does it start?
Well, it started today, but I mean, it's-
Can you hear me?
I can hear you.
It started today, but again,
it's something that can be progressive.
It's gonna be progressive, you know?
But yeah, I can share that with you.
I can share a link with you or whatever.
Okay, yeah, yeah, it's, I don't know.
Yeah, I know, Jesse, I mean, you reached out to me in email.
I shared my email, I think last week or the week before.
You guys, if you wanna reach out to me in email,
that's fine.
It's fine if you don't wanna do that too,
but I'm just, Jesse had reached out to me several times
and kind of just gave me an update on his situation.
And so yeah, it's definitely an opportunity for a shift.
after reset a change, like a challenge, if you will, like a,
like a challenge you to like, think of what it would, what
would your life be like? What would impact what you have? If
you were the person you've always wanted to be? Is that
kind of like, these are like big, you know, questions, and
they don't have to be so like,
big and fearful sounding, they can be
big and inviting, challenging, you know, that way. Yeah. And
and with with a little dose of like, hey, this is actually
possible, instead of just like, you know, trying to like, oh,
this is kind of a pipe dream. So that's kind of like, kind of
like what this after? Who else has got questions, comments?
resonating with this?
Yeah, I think for me, it's like the past, you know, like,
uh, 45. And when I was in my days, I cracked out an
alcoholism, working in tech, and I lost my job. And it just kind
of destroyed who I thought I was. And, you know, I went into
the health and healing services, feel the right heal
thyself. And it was like, a lot of my friends, you know, I was
just working on talking and being around people again, after
like, getting sober. And a lot of my friends are going to
Google and Facebook and stuff after leaving Microsoft. And I
had those opportunities. I just couldn't do it. Because of where
I was, you know, emotionally, spiritually, like, I was pretty
dead. So I guess, like, I don't know, man, I was like at church
like a month ago. And this young dude is in front of me in his
20s. And he stood up in church and like asked for prayer. I
confirmed like 1000 people. And I could tell like, he's like,
not a dude that just like, would want to be seen. But he
was like, just like, hurting. And like, I just, I don't know,
man, me and a few other guys, like put our hands over him and
prayed man is something I felt something touched my back. It's
like a warm hand. And no one was there. And it was like, Christ
is like never come. Like I hear people talk about I'm like,
yeah, I don't know. But like, it was like more real than
anything I've ever experienced. And I think it's because that
that faith is growing. It's like, nothing, I realized
nothing's in vain, like nothing like, yeah, like, there's no
regret. It's like, now I'm like doing. I've been asked to do
like a mental health tech company. That's not like my
design. Like, that's not what I planned for my life. And like
these guys who are like, I grew up like broke, you know, like
poor. And these guys are all like, you know, they're from
like really wealthy families in New York and New Jersey. And
they're like, have me out and like a week because they want to
like invest in an AI tech company and had me like run it.
And I'm like, so yeah, a lot of my old friends retired at 30.
You know, they live like fat cats, you know, but I always had
so much regret because I had to like, get sober. And like, I had
to like, you know, work packing books and putting in void to
like, learn how to be around people again after like getting
sober. And just like, I just felt like, yeah, like that was
my identity. And now I can like see, like Christ had a plan.
Like I could never have dreamed that up. There's no way. There's
no way. And yeah, I'm having to grow like I'm doing this Tony
Robbins thing in Florida, like next month. And yeah, I'm like,
it's hard for me to let that goodness in sometimes. But I'm
just trying to like just trust and think just put one foot in
front of the other. So yeah, yeah, it's good in the dating
things like, you know, I usually date like younger women that are
you know, I kind of like do everything, I guess you'd say.
And I met a woman who's actually like a peer, you know, she's
like a nurse. She's got like rental properties, you know, and
she doesn't like require so much, you know, and she's, she's
pretty, she's cool. And like, I'm just taking it really slow.
And I have no idea, you know, you're like, I never thought I never thought, right?
Yeah, it's actually really call me, you know.
So yeah, I appreciate you sharing their James, a couple things you said that kind of like
just kind of piqued out me, it was like, I'm doing something you'd never wanted to do.
You know, even though, you know, your background, your profession, you know, it, you have the
skill set for it, maybe there's a little growth there that you've got to do in order to like
step into it.
And maybe even like, oh, all of my other friends are retiring, I could be retiring, but I'm
not because of me being invited into this thing that I'm like, didn't think I was ever
going to do or wanted to do.
And the other thing was, is I have to grow.
Like that's a that's a pretty, and like, and you're not saying that, you know, that from
a defeatist standpoint, you're saying that from a viewpoint of like, I have this thing
that's calling to me, I have this opportunity.
You know, if you were looking at it opportunistically, that's one way, but I think a greater mature
way is like, I almost have a opportunity to level up and grow and take a responsibility
in whatever this is being asked of me to do this.
And so therefore, I have to grow, which that's powerful.
I mean, like, what an invitation.
That's the kind of thing that I'm talking about, like, what is what is life, what what
opportunity or what situation or what personal thing I'm asking everybody now in the group
like, what is that thing that's asking you to grow?
Right. What is that?
That. I'm trying to think of a word to kind of just kind of, you know, it's something
that's challenging you, what's the challenger, who's the challenger or what situation is
the challenger in your life?
Asking you the question, are you going to grow?
Are you going to level up?
Are you going to are you going to do this or are you just going to like do the same
thing you've always done?
Are you going to be, you know, the guy that's like, oh, just kind of like, yeah, I'm just
going to go back and do the same thing.
And it's not about it's not about like James is talking about, like being this, I think
he said CEO, but like leading a company like that's like with a huge skill set and like
a really amazing field.
It's not about the difference of like where the field is.
David Van Rooyen is moving to the middle, like flyover country to the middle, like
Davenport, Iowa and like reducing, you know, but the value of what David Van Rooyen doing
and James is doing is equally the same.
It's not about like status.
It's not about money.
It's not about like amount.
It's not like about the quantity.
It's about the quality of what it is that you're being invited into.
So don't compare yourself to somebody else who's not the leader of a company.
You know, this dealing with like Fortune 500 situation, look at yourself and go, hey, what
is it? It's in my life.
Who is this in my life?
What circumstance, whatever it is, whatever's on the inside of you, what is it that's
calling out to you to say you got to grow?
You got to you got to you got to move forward.
And what's it going to require for you to to answer that call?
You know, this happens a lot of times when somebody, you know, meets.
Meets a child that needs to needs to be fathered, needs to be adopted.
You know, the same type of scenario.
Are you going to accept the call?
This is this is like facing you.
This is the situation.
This is what's up in front of you.
Like, are you going to do this?
Even even just the call to like be married, like, are you going to step into, you know,
what it means to be a husband?
And all that entails.
So I've been a husband for.
18 and in my first marriage, it was 14.
So I've been playing the husband role and the dad have been playing the dad role for 30
years. Because my son's turning 30 this year and I've been playing the husband role for 30, whatever that is, 32 years.
That doesn't mean that I'm a good husband.
That means, that doesn't even mean that I'm like trying,
I'm still, there's a lot of things I'm still trying to figure out.
Playing the husband role.
You know?
Go ahead, Thomas, you got your hand raised.
No, you said you wanted to hear from all of us, so.
Yeah, yeah, I'd love to.
Yeah, I mean, I feel like, first of all, I want to share that I'm excited for you, David.
I think that's really cool.
And I agree that it seems like there's a lot of change in the wind for a lot of people
in some ways.
I think for me, yeah, I've been, you know, I've been trying like as hard as I, you know,
not, I mean, close to as hard as I know how.
And I think it's an interesting question.
How many kind of like G's can you pull in a turn?
Yeah, that's good.
That question of, you know, like, so like, you know, a couple months ago, I mean, I've been,
I mean, I've been trying for decades, you know, a couple, but specifically recently,
a couple months ago, hired a nutrition coach, working on my sleep schedule,
getting back into scuba and sailing.
I'm tracking every single expense in the last, you know, in the last month.
Doing an envelope style, but on Google Sheets, but I have T accounts set up and everything,
putting systems into place at work.
But I think for me, it's a really interesting, painful thing, because I've tried so many
times to create kind of new things.
And like this time is going to be different.
And I think I read the book a little while back, Adult Children of Emotionally Unhealthy
Parents.
And it talks about how there tend to be two types of people, one being internalizers who
think if I can be good enough, that will fix everything.
Yeah.
And then others being externalizers who think if I can control other people, like that will
fix everything.
So I think for me, as someone who's tended to be an internalizer, who's thought if I
could just get the system, like if I can just love it, I can just like make it work.
Yeah.
I feel torn because I'm actively wanting to do everything that I can to do that and to
accomplish what feels impossible inside of my head that my heart wants so badly.
Yeah.
And then I also am remembering what, like John Ortberg says about that phrase, instead
of trying harder, trying softer.
Oh, wow.
I feel like for me, it's a painful, painful mix of how do you try like as hard as you
can, but also like as soft as you can, if that makes sense.
And so.
Yeah.
Yeah, it does.
Because like a lot of the feeling and a lot of the resonance around the six-month reset
is not just trying to try again.
It's not about like, oh, I've tried this before.
Oh, we'll try it one more time type thing.
It's not about that.
It's about it is literally about seeing something you've never seen before and it being a true
heart shift and not just like, oh, I'm trying a new program to be more successful.
I'm trying a new thing to be more of the same thing I've always wanted to be like it's
different.
But that's what we've all been doing in here, I thought.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, is is seeking to do that.
And I understand.
But what I'm saying is that it's easy for me to get addicted to that approach to say
this when I try to metamorphosis, I can do it in a way that's more meta and more deep
and that will fix it.
And I think for me, I'm also having to work really, really hard on patients, which.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Requires a lot of patience.
Jackie's here.
I'm not going to show her that she didn't want her.
She's like, don't show me.
I got to go.
Chicken and some girls to want some of it.
Yeah, Thomas, I feel you when you say.
Set patients, right?
Yeah, I mean, as as as a part of it.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's that's super powerful.
And I like that.
Try don't try harder.
Try softer.
Because a lot of this to guys in terms of a six month reset is.
It's a.
How was I, I was just, I just had the words.
It's a.
I was going to say it that softer part, you know, it's counterintuitive.
It's not the old, uh, matrix of like, Oh, life change.
Like, Oh, I'm going to do this.
Got to get a program.
Got to map it out.
Got to buckle down.
I got a white knuckle it.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it's literally about seeing something different.
Like the shift that I'm, I'm doing right now is about seeing something
in me that I've never seen before.
And seeing, seeing some things about my childhood that I've never seen
before that I didn't understand because I had a certain, I said, I had a certain
turned out and I was wrong in a lot of ways.
And, um, it created in me a version of me that wasn't available, you
know, emotionally, relationally.
And, um, so I'm being challenged in that right now to see that differently.
And, you know, telling me like Thomas probably would, would, would
kind of like resonate with this.
Somebody telling you, Hey, you got to change.
You know, has anybody ever like had that thing where like somebody's looked at
you say, dude, this is not good.
It's got to change.
And you're like, okay, that's cool.
I'm not against changing, but like, what does that look like?
Like, what do you mean?
Like how like, and do what, you know,
that's, that's difficult.
That requires you to actually dig deeper and get that like next level of help.
It's like, that's kind of like what I was talking about earlier is I, some
things you can go about 80%, but in order to go that next or extra 20%, you need
somebody else, you need some help.
You need, uh, either coaching or you need like a friend or you need some sort of
crucible.
Sometimes these comes, these things come to you and, and, and a situation just like
happens, you know, like, oh, this is, this is the thing that's actually requiring me
to level up, requiring me to look at this differently.
So lots of times it's very counterintuitive.
It's not about like change for change sake.
It's like, it's, it's true change.
Seeing something that you've never seen before.
That's why heartwork is so transformational.
And I know a lot of you guys are going through that and have done that.
And some of you guys are, are in the process even right now of doing that,
which is so powerful.
And, uh, so some other guys, you got your hands raised here.
So I want to hear from you, Mike and Kenton and Andrew.
So, sorry, I just dropped my phone.
So one of the things, um, I've been stepping out of my comfort zone,
um, I've been stepping into, which is not really been super comfy is I'm in a new
church, right.
And the temptation is to mute myself because nobody really has been able to
handle me.
Right.
And, um, and I haven't wanted to come under the, I haven't wanted to talk to
be nice, behave, you know, don't, don't, don't rock the boat, that kind of stuff.
Well, yeah, because when I carry really kind of freaks people out sometimes even
me, like, you know, honestly.
And so, um, it's actually, it's ironic, the house that I've been called out as I
was called out as a prophet again on Sunday, second time in this place.
Um, and he nailed it.
And I was like, um, so I've just, I feel like it's the time to walk into
that, but I have to trust.
So I actually, um, have a meeting set up with the, um, the, um, senior, the head
pastor who was the, it was my attorney, the one who owned the, uh, it was, he was
my, his associate was my attorney.
Um, and I asked his daughter out, which is not awkward at all, but, uh,
Oh, wow.
Okay.
And all these things update from last week.
Well, no, I mean, I asked her out previously and then I just, but I did
take a huge swing this week.
Um, and I I'm learning some more of the story, but my whole thing is I had this
fear, you know, you know, like you're talking about leveling up, right.
It's like, you know, am I, do I even, am I going to let people, am I going to
allow myself to be muted again?
And like, I really don't think I've even got to the fullest of me because I've
never really been allowed to be free.
And, um, you know, and I gave a word on Sunday, which I mean rocks, you know,
and I was able to saw people healed.
It was pretty cool.
Um, and so I'm just seeing the fullness, but it's scary because I'm like, wait,
they haven't flinched and I'm.
kind of teeing off, right?
And so, and like I say,
so I didn't want to talk to the senior pastor
because that's usually the ones that Hulk smash me
and say, you know, they don't usually understand
but I'm just trusting that the Lord has it.
And, you know, so I have been,
and I'm like, I took a swing with that gal
and I'm like, yeah, the pastor's daughter, it's fine.
Right?
You know, and, you know, and we'll see how she responds.
But like, you know, like stop,
rather than playing it safe and trying to fit,
I'm just walking in who I am
and allowing people to love me for who I am,
which I don't think I've ever done.
And so I think a lot of times,
I think it's really hard to,
well, trust the Lord too.
Well, and with that gal, the Lord's like, you know,
trust, do you trust me?
And I'm like, kinda, you know, like, you know,
but I'll take the step out and even,
and I'm in an even if season, am I calling it?
Like even Lord, even if I crash and burn,
I'll praise you and I know you'll heal my heart.
I know you'll heal the wounds.
I mean, you've done it before.
And so, I mean, I just, it's like, even if, even if,
like no matter what, I'm just going.
And, you know, like without risk,
it's impossible to be loved.
Like, you know, without, there's no,
and it's possible to have faith.
Faith is spelled out.
So I'm like, Lord, you put me here.
There's a lot of things swirling in this house.
There's so many things.
I see how I'm perfectly set up.
I mean, because I do a lot of deliverance things too.
And it's just, not that I want to do all this stuff,
but I'm just kind of, I'm pressing into areas
that I've never frequented, though I have done them, right?
And like, they asked me to be the intercessor
for the worship team, right?
And to keep the air clear.
And I'm like, that's not typically something.
So I'm trusting that,
like I'm being led the right way,
even though it's very different
than what I would have chosen.
You know, I think, I don't, I hate to speak for everybody,
but, you know, we like stuff that's in our wheelhouse
that we're really good at, right?
Hey, take me, do the thing that I'm really good at, right?
You know, and he's like, oh, I want you to be intercession.
And I'm like, well, that's like something
I really don't want to do.
But he's like, you know, this house needs to be clear.
And you have the discernment of spirit,
so you can see it and you can clean it.
So, but I have to get the authority
from the senior pastor to do that, right?
And so then I have to,
so it's been a really huge growing week.
And so like, the Lord told me, okay,
so I just want to say,
I don't know if this is a win or not.
I mean, I did it.
And like, so there's this guy,
the Lord gave me a word for this gal
when I was supposed to be with a mug, a card,
the word was supposed to be on a purple card,
in a purple bag.
I've never had something so nauseatingly specific, right?
And so Sunday, I was there and a friend of mine was like,
you need to have it done.
And so I had it ready to give to her.
And I wasn't gonna, I was like,
Lord, you have to give the opportunity.
And towards the end of the night, or the morning,
I was like, I just have to give it to her.
And I walked back and she was just absolutely,
she was sobbing on the floor.
Like she was having a really rough day.
And I just walked up and I realized,
because really what the word was,
prophesying freedom for her, right?
And I didn't give it to her to actually get,
the reason why I didn't wanna give her the gift,
because I will never use my gift for favor.
That's crap, right?
You know, and so I fought the Lord for three weeks on it.
But when I handed it to her,
I could see it was the perfect opportunity.
So I didn't wanna do it.
I wrestled against it, but I was obedient.
And it really did, I'm sure it's gonna have a huge impact.
And whether we have a relationship or not,
I don't, it's irrelevant to the equation.
But like, I did what I was told.
And I could actually,
it's not often that you see the instant impact
of what you're doing.
But like even walking up, I said,
I hope this is encouraging to you.
She's like, even the purple,
it's like, it's in a purple bag of,
of course it's encouraging to me.
And so anyway, so I just thought you guys,
you know, if it's crazy and it's out there
and it stretches you,
I mean, you know, I took the swing and I did it.
And I'm actually really grateful
because I knew the Lord's like,
you know, you're prophesying her freedom.
It's good, it's good.
And so I just, I just think, you know,
so yeah, you gotta trust.
Yeah.
Now, if you, if you press them with your heart,
which is the softer, like, I love that.
When,
that was shared, Thomas shared earlier,
try, don't try harder, try softer.
with your heart. I really believe you cannot fail. Like, I believe like when you press in,
you know, because of God, because of what God is nurturing you to do, you know, in your heart of
hearts, that I believe you cannot fail, even though the outcome may be different than what
you expected. I believe you can't fail. Let's go with Andy and then Kenton. Andy, what do you got?
Hi. Hey, Andy. So, hi. So, I guess what resonated with me was the thing about doing something that
you've never done before. And like, yeah, really, I'm feeling that way with the way I'm dating that
girl from the Philippines. Like, yeah, I never thought I would.
Uh, you're froze.
I'm, is it okay now? It came back a little bit. Yeah, you froze there for a second. Okay.
Yeah, I would say definitely that Philippines thing is for sure. Like,
I've never done this before. So, you're literally walking that out for sure.
Yep. And, you know, learning, learning a new culture and,
and, you know, communication kind of stuff. I think it's like,
um, it's the kind of thing that, um, I think it's, um,
yeah, you're breaking up again. Don't know what else to talk about. Oh, come on. I don't know why
I'm breaking up. Cause I'm like in good wifi right now, but yeah. Um,
but yeah, we hear you. We, we, we hear you. And we're, we're, we're, we're with you on that new
experience. We can imagine that, you know, that's definitely a, a game changer in one way or another
for sure. And, uh, so we're like, since then I'm like, yeah. And of course I'm flying down there
next week. So yeah. Yep. I'm flying down there next week. So, okay. Well, we definitely be
praying for you and agreeing with you and adding our faith with you that everything will be, uh,
turn out. All right. For you, Jesus name, Kenton, go ahead. Uh, you're the last one here. We're
right up against the hour. Okay. Very good. Then I won't keep this too long. Um, I'm going to speak
mostly out of my experiences, my age, which is 66. So I've got a few years under my belt here.
Are you guys getting a, uh, an echo in here? Cause I can change rooms if you are.
Hey, you're fine. You're fine. Okay. Good. Um, evaluation is going to be always in our life.
Re-evaluating, re-evaluate. Every business does. Any smart business re-evaluates every six to two
year to small increments, but our own personal lives, because what does the Lord really want?
He wants basically to love him. And I had to learn that over the last six years. So not so
much how to love him, but to allow him to give him permission to love me in return. And that's
for somebody who's a people pleaser. That's a difficult thing because you always give out,
give out, give out all the time and not expecting a lot back, even though you're craving for it,
you're truly craving. So actually it's, it's can be a demonic thing because it's not what the Lord
called us to do. He called us to love one another and to love him with all of our soul and mind in
return. He's not a taskmaster. He's, he's a lover. And I had to learn that one. That was one of my
first ones six years ago. I had to learn all over again, had learned for the first time actually.
So the first order for myself was to re-evaluate how I loved myself by allowing God to love me.
And that's a big one. The second one for me more recently is learning to trust in him. Mike,
I hear what you're saying about the prophetic and changing churches and senior pastors, etc. Being
a senior pastor myself with multiple staff and having to lead an apostolic church, it's not a
lot of fun. It can be very tiring at times because you're talking about the prophets, the teachers,
the pastors, evangelists, etc. And when you get them all in one, one roof, it's, it's like one
big party, but also a lot of work. So in that realm, what I'm saying is that everything that
God gives you, like Bob, Bob Jones often said, he, he turned off his telephone.
and he waited upon the Lord until he received the word. He didn't move forward. He lived life,
just normal, like a normal person, to receive the Lord. Then he'd plug in his cell phone,
call the person he's supposed to call, or do, or go to, whatever. And then he'd come home again,
unplug his phone, and continue on with life. It should be that easy for you when you are
constantly in his presence, constantly in his presence. And that's what he's looking for.
He's looking for us to be with him. That's what we're made for. We're made to have fellowship
with him, first and foremost. And then everything else flows out of that one. So, in the years of
experience, I've learned that it's not an easy thing to do, especially for ADHD people like
myself. But all at the same time, it's necessary. So the changes in my life that I'm finding ever
since David informed me that there wasn't a match for me amongst all the ladies, and that kind of
floored me for a few moments. But ADHD people always pick themselves up again and carry on.
So I had to re-evaluate. There was a young lady that I was friends with, and so
she's had her ups and downs and whatnot. And so she's now going to meet with Jackie and
discuss all her fears of what she fears because of her past relationships.
And guys, I'm going to tell you this. She was not, this kind of woman was not on my bucket list.
She wasn't on that long list of things that I wished in a woman. No, I was not. Sorry. So I had
to make some major changes over the last little while. And you know what? The thing that I found
best about her is her heart, how much she loves. And that's the one thing I didn't get in my life,
it was a lot of love. And it's so strange for me. So weird. It's like somebody actually loves me for
who I am, not what can I give to them? What can I supply for them? And so I'm saying adjustments
had to be made to my thinking, my list. But God knows best. If you wait upon the Lord,
if you wait upon the Lord, as Joseph had to for 113 years, as Moses had to for 70 years,
and it goes on for all the different people thought of Hebrew that we're our heroes.
So your biggest adventure on life, I call it an adventure, because that's exactly what it is.
This is finding that adventure, changing adventures, making new adventures, don't get
stuck in a rut where you're at. Your lives are too short. They're only they're only spit in the
bucket. Eternity waits for you. So my biggest question is, how am I influencing others for the
kingdom of God? And that includes the girl I'm wanting to date and to move forward into marriage.
How am I influencing her? She's my first disciple. In fact, if anything, she might be my only true
disciple, which I have to raise up. But that means I've got to get my life in order in the sense that
I've got to trust God. I've got to I've got to lean into him. I've got to always take her
to Jesus when she asked me a question. I'll say, Well, what did Jesus say about that?
For a while, it's like, she doesn't ask me many questions in work, and she knows I'm gonna ask
her and then she comes back with the answer with Jesus, not me. And so we're realizing that Jesus
has all the answers he did. And that's where we're leading our lives to that's not what we want.
Our future wives in the future in the word, and with prayer. That's good. So I just want to
encourage each and every one of your men, that in the next little while, things are going to change,
you're gonna learn how to trust him more, you can log into love a future person through you.
Because if you try to do it physically on your own, your human power, it can't be done, gentlemen.
I've been asked to love this woman for two years, unconditionally. And it's been
Oh, man, more trials and tribulations. Yeah, this it knocks the socks right out. Yeah.
To the point you realize you come back to the Lord and say, Lord, you told me to do this. I can't do
this. And he says, bingo, I've got I've got you. Now you know, you can't do it even when I asked
you to. That's what it came down to. I said, Lord, I can't do this anymore. I can't because
it's turning around. He says, Yeah, exactly. When anything you try to do on your own,
and not in spirit, it will wear you out. And then you know, you're going down the wrong trail.
You know, without a shadow of doubt. And so that's when you have to lean in and says,
Lord, I'm going to be the imperfect future husband. I can't make her any promises. I can't
make her any vows. Because I could probably get somehow screw up. But I can tell her this much,
as long as I'm going after Jesus, after I love him, give him my all through he is going to minister to
her through
me at that time and that's where your biggest power is going to come from that's where eternity
is going to you're going to meet christ at the beam of seed and he's going to say well
done my good and faithful servant why because you looked after just one of my dams one of
my sheep and you disciples for well by bringing her to me each time not trying this pop psychology
today guys just it's it's it's nuts out there with all the psychology and sociology and
humanism and darwinism and all that other crap out there i say crap it is just that
and so and that's where i'm changing is like changing number one choosing a woman that
i went to choice out of my list but god knew what i needed than i needed and that's more
that's more important he had to finalize that to learn how to love her unconditionally but
through a condition which god gives you not what you can do and so most of you know that
i went bankrupt i basically went from riches to rags and now this woman is well oh she's
got to realize i have nothing i could gain it all back that's not a problem but that's
not the issue for her she's got other issues that she needs to look after that's why david
i thank you for looking into uh getting a meeting with her for jackie that's going to
be a real pivoting point for her thank you very much and uh we'll find out shortly if
she wants to go forward after she spoke with jackie and uh but for her it'll be a change
too because she's always said security she's one of these trophy wives that two men really
abuse unnecessarily but she's not she doesn't know what real love is either and the lord
has brought me to her to love her to love her through me and that was the assignment
basically so in that same sense there's my changes so i'm looking at starting up a business
i with laura says i want you to do it and min will say no it's not a good idea so what
do you do so look at the lord so okay lord i'll wait upon you i'll wait upon you there's
that word again i'll wait upon you and i won't move until you show me tell me inform me whatever
you got to do but i'm tired of trying to do it on my way in my timetable so i'm beginning
to lay back this adhd and just live life in the moment and enjoy that moment so that's
the changes that's happening in my life and uh and all these things through lys it's just
been uh so guys this is a good community i've been in a lot of communities but i've been
nothing like this one because these people you people really care for each other and
you see that in the prayer time moments in the in the sunday prayer times and the saturday
meetings and the friday morning um jesus time every one of those moments these women that
are on this community are women of god and they are going for it and i would choose any
one of them anytime for what i've seen what's out there that's for sure that's powerful
that's okay that's amazing yeah i thank you so much for kenton for sharing that um what
you shared there is a mouthful and a heartful because you know if you're not really catching
on to what kenton's been through and how he's processing it i know a little bit just because
just working together but i i just um you know that he's saying so much in what he's
saying here not just a good hey i'm 66 years old let me tell you some things that i've
learned line it's more than that like he's really really being transparent and sharing
how you know this whole season has changed but then even in the last minute this season
has really shifted and that's and it's super powerful what's happening um it's and i can
sense the anointing on and sense god all in it and and i just really feel like god's that
you're really honoring the lord in that and that great things are going to happen through it
because um it's not intuitive it's not what we think lots of times the answer isn't what we think
it's gonna be or supposed to be or you know it's looking like it might be or whatever um so many
people in this community just on meeting people have that testimony like i never thought i never
thought this would be the person there was two there's a couple that just sat on our couch the
other day uh on saturday and uh we know him but we're meeting her for the first time and they're
engaged and they're gonna get married and they both said the same thing they had they had no
idea they like like who would have thought that this this person this girl this guy would have
been you know the one and um it's just that way it's just that way and so god is so good in that
so thank you kenton for sharing thank you for
being transparent. Thank you for being so honoring in that.
And, and all the everybody that shared tonight, every single one
of you is really revealing something even just sharing
tonight. Yeah, you think you're sharing with us, but I really
feel like just you getting it out there. God's allowing that
and using that in your own light to reflect back to you, giving
you some insight, giving you some affirmation, giving you
confirmation, giving you a level of like, yes, thank you, my son,
thank you for articulating it. Thank you for getting it out.
Thank you for sharing. Because it's important that you do that
not only for us, but for what God is doing in your life as
well. So each one of you are very, very pivotal, powerful
moments in your life. And we just want to celebrate that.
Thank you all for sharing. Um, we're going to end this, but I
am going to share the link that I mentioned before. So I'll
share it in the comments. But it's also in just so you know,
it's also in the resources section of the, of the, of the
group of the app. There's a button, there's a tab at the top
of the men's section on the app, last year single app. That app
has a resources section. And in that resources section, there's
a link to this, the same link. So if you missed this, but so
want to bless you guys. Um, thank you for showing up
tonight. Thank you for sharing. And we'll see you next time. God
bless y'all.
Take care.