Hey Robin, how are you doing? Oh there you're muted. Hey Holly. Can you hear me
now? Yeah. How are you feeling not being in Portugal right now? I'm good. I'm good.
There's no way we were gonna go. Been there, done that. Yes. Yeah we did. It's good. Hey
Marcello. Hey everybody. Good day to everyone. I'm good. I'm good. How is everyone? Good.
Okay well I guess we'll get started. As we all know we're gonna do this weekly scorecard
again. I'll put it in the chat. As we also figured out you can't fill it out on the scorecard
but I will figure that out eventually. But just so that you are able to like think it
through while we're doing it. I'm gonna set our timer. Looking at what was your wins from
this last week? What were your blocks from this last week? And then my goal would be
after today Bruce is gonna talk to us a little bit. My goal would be that after Bruce is
done talking that you guys can kind of set. Unless you have something that you're like
I know I want to work on this this next week. And you already have that in your mind that
after Bruce is talking. Kind of how last week Lindsay gave us homework of like look at your
prophetic words. Create your I am statement. That type of thing. Whereas that would have
been our goal for this next week. Does that make sense? So keeping our next week goal
for the end of the call to kind of so you can take whatever Bruce has said and plan
forward. So okay Bruce is gonna play some music and I'm gonna set a timer for three
minutes. And if you need more time you can wave at me. If you're all done tell me in
the chat that you're done. Oh it doesn't let me add a timer because Bruce is the main host.
Oh sure I can do it. There we go. Can you guys see that? Oh it's backwards. Yeah you're
good. Okay. Three minute timer.
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share it now. All right. Well, last, last week, I had a stuck
that was leasing to a 933. One of the houses that I have. And I
have some people that well, they haven't signed the lease yet.
But they're right there. They filled out the application, they
got their money, moving in on the first, so I'm going to
believe that that one is leased up. And then also, what I've
been trying to buy for a while has to go through probate. And I
cut a deal with the with the seller today that I could lease
it for 50 bucks a month until he gets the probate done. So I can
go ahead and get started cleaning it up and getting stuff
done. So so that's a that's a commitment to get that lease
option sign and to get that lease sign.
Awesome. Very cool.
And then I got one stuck. What am I stuck? My commitment for
last week was to start the pad on the new home. I'm stuck on
the pad. I the guy that's supposed to start Thursday, he
called me said his truck dump truck broke down. I can't get
him on the phone. The old story. So that's my stuff for this week
is to get that unstuck.
Get that unstuck.
Lame.
Bruce, do you want to?
Yeah, get away. That's cool. Yeah, great to hear from where
you guys are at. And I know I was just watching some of your
content and just like jumping into the feed again and tribe
and then also seeing some of your stuff on social media. I
think I follow everybody on social media. So I saw I know
Jennifer's not here, but she passed 1000 subscribers on
Instagram, which is really cool. And then, yeah, just saw
it's really cool that you guys are keeping moving things. I
know it's sometimes it feels like it's start and stop like
it's a sprint and you do different things. We're just
talking about this in our team is like, when you're working on
any kind of business, everything is kind of a bet. Like you're
doing these little like, hey, I'm going to try this idea for
a couple weeks for a month, whatever. And I'm going to try
this and then you're going to try something else and try
something else. And there's not like this. Sure. I mean, there's
lots of different tactics. And there's all kinds of things that
you can go and try to achieve those things. But yeah, just
give yourself a lot of flexibility to experiment and
try. And I know Marcella said she's like setting up her faith
tribe, getting that all set up and get it listed. Yeah, just
like that's another little, like burst of, you know, sprint that
you're going to run and see get that working and then just see,
see, once you're done with that, then you can make the next step
and so forth. So really, like today, I was going to touch on
some like, mindset stuff as well, just around building your
kingdom business. And so thinking about how we've talked
a little bit about collaborating with Christ, we're yoked with
Christ and and how we're really called to multiply and and build
what the Lord has given us. He has given us so much. I like to
think of is like kingdom capital, right? It's there's
there's things that the Lord has given you and and assets the
Lord has put into your hands, which can be your unique
abilities, the things that the skills, the life experience, the
testimonies, all the stuff that Lord's put is builds up this
amazing kingdom capital. And then it's kind of how do we go
on this journey with Christ when we're yoked with Christ on this
adventure, and deploy and use this capital to go and multiply
things on the earth. This is the idea of being very much a
kingdom business and not a Christian business. Like we're
not hopefully hoping that you guys are going to go create, you
know, Christian social media accounts, we really want kingdom
coming down and sharing and bringing kingdom to people's
lives on their phones where they're hanging out all the time.
And I think, yeah, there's kind of these different phases, we're
kind of shifting our mindset. And this is sort of the
progression as well of kind of how, you know, we've been taught
like, when you're thinking of just being an owner of a
business, there's this idea of like, it's mine, like, I hold
the thing, it's up to me, I'm going to hustle, I'm going to
grind. This is the whole startup culture. And a lot of people
that, you know, you see on social media, it's just the
hustle, the grind, you know, just getting up at 4am crazy,
like, you know, routines and stuff to achieve all these crazy
results. And it's all up to me, like, I'm the one who has to do
everything. And then, you know, there's sort of the Christian
version of this, which is like, hey, I'm going to be a good
steward, like, Lord's given me this, and I'm going to go
steward it well. And there's some, there's some, something
good about that. But it can easily switch into very
religious framework on that, because you, you essentially are
like, cool, God, like, I've got this, I'm going to go do good things with it. And so just being a
steward, and I think really where what I see is like this kingdom collaboration happening is that
you're really a co creator, like you're innovating together with Christ in the moment, you're
actually like yoked with Christ in this really cool way where you get to go and do the thing.
So I, because we have AI, I had this image, so you guys can have a good visual of what I'm talking
about. This is like pretty much how it goes. This is kind of a funny picture. But this is like,
in case you're wondering, like, you're the small ox, right? We've got Christ is this giant,
you know, yeah, we're calling pulling this cart called your business. And this is this is like
how we should imagine it. And the cool thing is like, when we take a step forward, this massive,
powerful force like moves forward with us. And so it's not, it's definitely not the like Jesus
sitting on the sidelines or sitting in the cart, like telling you what to do. And you just got to
like pull as hard as you can. That's not it at all. This is a collab like you guys are kind of
working together in step together. And I think the Lord's really loves this idea of friendship
and relationship because we are if it was just an instructions and go and do this thing, and then
you go off and execute. That's one relationship you could have, it would be very sad if that was
like, how Hannah and I are four year old, like would go and work on something with me. If we
were doing a project together, it wouldn't just be me giving her a list of 10 things to go do. And
then coming back a week later and checking on her like that's borderline, just like an average boss
would do that, right? Definitely not a father and definitely not someone who loves that person
dearly. You would want to do it with him. Hey, Hannah, like, what do you think we should do
about this? Like, do you think we should do this? Do you think we should do that? Okay, we've got
this problem. Isn't it fun to solve problems? Like, let's go in and like, figure out how we're
going to solve this problem together. You know, and obviously, I know the answer most of the time,
but if the goal is for us to do this together, and to go along the journey together, right? And I
think a lot of times we're like, we have these imaginary destinations that are like, well, when I
hit this amount of followers, when I hit this, when my group exists, when I have this many book
sales, when I have this, when I hit this revenue goal, you know, then we've arrived and then I can
kind of pick my next goal. And that's just, you know, it's not a good way, fun way to live because
you miss out on all these moments and the relationship and the journey that you're going on.
And so, just as we're thinking about this from like a kingdom perspective, like as kingdom
entrepreneurs, not Christians in business, right? I think everybody's, we've talked a lot about this.
It's just trying to putting this, it's taking on like sort of a different mindset. And it's taking
this thing of partnership and thinking of how we're doing this as if God was like a partner
in this. And the first thing to kind of realize and to admit is like, hey, I have a kingdom business.
Like I am a kingdom business owner. If you guys want to take a second, like drop that in the chat.
Just like Marcella said, like when you read something out loud or you say it, or you write it,
like put in the chat, like I am a kingdom business owner because all of you are. The Lord has
gifted you guys with tons of inventory and a ton of assets that you can now go and deploy.
And some of it's going to look like actual dollars. Some of it looks like a career experience.
Some of it looks like the inheritance that you got from your parents if they were in ministry.
Some of it looks like, you know, friendships that you have, a network that you have,
coaching groups that you're part of. Like this group is an asset you have people cheering you
on available to answer questions and help you get unstuck. And so you've been building up
these assets and you have a way to now deploy that and partner. So one thing that like
a little exercise that I would encourage you guys to all do this week is to take a little
inventory of all these assets the Lord has actually given you. You know, just start to
list things out. What is the gifts? Like what are some of the stories? Like I have some of your
assets are just crazy testimony. Some of that's like a whole thing in itself. Like some of you
have specific tech skills or you have specific business skills or you have coaching or counseling
or therapy. Like you have all these different unique skills that Lord's put into your hands
and it's different than like, well, that's my day job. I do this very boring coding thing over
here that doesn't relate to anything in ministry. But then I've got this other crazy testimony. I've
got the thing Lord's like working all of this together for your good, right? It's not just
like isolated things. So once you start to put them all down, starting to create that list of
assets, it's just helpful again to reflect and be like, Oh wow, I do actually have this. I do
actually have that. Versus like sometimes we have
this like one metric and we're like, how much money did we make or how many
followers do I have?
It's like this one metric.
And that doesn't really give you a good perspective of what's actually going on.
Um, and so, and also when you do this, um, I find personally, like the, the sort
of the, the, um, like one way that you can sort of engage the Holy spirit, engage,
uh, uh, the Lord in this process is through me, for me, it's, it's journaling.
Sometimes you go on a walk, some of you guys, maybe it's, um, putting on some
worship, maybe you got to kind of get into, um, this abiding resting, um, space.
Uh, and so, um, I think that, uh, so for me, it's like writing, like I have, um,
a physical journal, like right here.
So this is all my like stuff that I'm doing this week.
And so I have a page where I just literally sit, um, and I have this, it's,
it's really great because it's, it's this entire, like two-sided blank page where I
just sit and have coffee, um, with the Lord.
This is like a Graham cook thing.
So like, he has, uh, these like 3am wake ups and he'll make, uh, the Lord a cup of
tea and then he makes a cup of tea and then I have tea together.
And then he's, he always jokes that the Lord's never had his, he's always had to
drink the second cup, uh, because he never finishes it.
So, you know what I'm saying?
So have something a little ritual like that, because if I was working with.
Um, like, let's say, let's say I was needing to do a bunch of marketing and I
was like, uh, I was going to, you guys, you know, you know, Pedro, well, let's,
let's, let's pick Steven Diaz as a, as a good friend of ours.
Awesome at marketing stuff.
I'm like, Hey Steven, we're going to go into business together.
And he's done multiple eight figures in their business.
And I'm like, Hey, I got all the tech stuff.
So he's like, cool, let's go together.
You're going to handle the marketing.
Steven, I'm going to do all the tech stuff.
Let's do it.
So I was like, Hey, can we, can we meet?
Like, can we have, like, what are we going to do?
Let's, let's, let's get in the room and like build some stuff.
Right.
And so I would like push really hard to get into like a connection of
having a conversation with him.
Like, okay, let's pick his brain.
Okay.
And also like, I'm not waiting up at night, like wondering if
Steven's going to like pull off marketing.
He is the expert at it, right?
He's going to pull it off.
He has a track, you know, a track record of pulling this off and I'm going
to kind of like rest in him knowing that.
And so you guys get where I'm going.
Like this is, this is a, you know, friendship I have here on earth.
Nevermind, you know, the King of Kings I'm working with who obviously has a
track record, who obviously knows how to do marketing, who obviously
knows how to do all this stuff.
And so wouldn't you want to have like a standing appointment
with your business partners?
That'd be the first thing, just super practical.
Just set this up.
So you have a time where you are sitting down and doing this because it's not
going to happen unless you schedule it.
Uh, and so for me, Mondays is the perfect time for this.
Um, I have it blocked up on our Monday morning calendar.
I go to a coffee shop.
I have the same spot, so it gets me out of the context.
I try to not take my phone or my laptop, you know, obviously key because, uh, as
an entrepreneur, I'm like, Oh, I get this idea and this thing, let me just text
this to Macy and let me send this to this thing.
And so like, I queue this all up.
I have, this is my discipline is I have a little chart in the
bottom left that says comms.
And so like all the communication I'm going to have after this session.
So I'm as I, and then I load up like 10 messages to different team members and
just send it all at once afterwards.
So, um, just, you know, figure this out as far as what would, what helps you
stay focused and, um, treat it like you're like a meeting, you would actually
have a meeting with, with this, this person.
Um, because it's, it's a different way of thinking about it.
It's not like, well, I'm doing my quiet time in the morning and I'm just
going to happen to like, Oh Lord, please bless my business.
And then I go back into the day.
Um, or we wait till we like crash and burn and we're like, Oh my gosh, I've
like set, I have, you know, created this mess, Lord, please come and save me.
Um, which is, which is fine too.
And it's nothing wrong with that, but that's not, you know, that's sort of
just kind of getting bailed out at the last minute.
I think there's this collaborating of the Lord wanting to work with us.
Um, In this, so just as far as like practical things, you know, this is a
good exercise, like take an inventory of all the things that you have.
Like, I feel like I get prompted to do certain things.
Um, and to me, I have to do it on paper.
Like I get too distracted if I'm touching a technology at all.
Um, and so do a pen and paper.
And I just said, okay, like, and sometimes, uh, the prompt
is like, what's on your mind.
You know, and, and you've seen, um, there's a lot of, uh, people doing this
lot of entrepreneurs teaching this, but, uh, doing just, you kind of do the
brain dump, like, Hey, I've got this on my mind, this on my mind, this
thing's happening, but, and just don't try to organize it, just get it on a
piece of paper and I'd do that on like one giant list on the left and on the
right, I'm like, okay, what's like, what's on the Lord's mind.
Okay.
So like, just go through and I list out all the things for me.
Um, you know, I'm.
about this. I have to make this decision. This, this payment needs to be made. Like this is random,
just stuff that's in my brain. And on the right side, I'm like, cool, Lord, like what's on your
mind? Oh, guess what? Like, I love you as a son. Like, I love this. Hey, did you know that? Like,
I have this thing planned for you. Oh, do you remember this prophetic word that you got?
I'm like, oh, yeah, that's kind of cool. Like that has nothing to do with these stupid things
on the left. Like, I don't even know why I'm worried about that. Oh, did you know that I'm
like called you to like, this space of wealth and influence? Like, oh, you know, so you quickly like
pulls you out of that perspective, but your brain, you kind of need to get it out of your head. So
there's nothing wrong with like having those thoughts. But we tend to like, as entrepreneurs,
as people who are business owners, get wrapped up into that, and you just jump from the one thing
to the next, and you're putting out fires, and then the you know, whatever hits your inbox,
whatever client thing comes in, whatever customer asks you something, whatever situation you're
dealing with, tends to take the sort of the dictate your calendar and your for the day,
and then you kind of get to the end of the day, you know, like, what did I even accomplish? I
think I just put out a bunch of fires, and then we go to sleep and do it again the next day. So
I think there's a way of like flipping that around and saying, okay, let me just get everything out
of my head. Okay, what's the Lord saying? Sometimes it's I've had things in that like,
it's not crazy stuff. It's like, hey, text this person. Hey, shoot that person an email.
Send this thing to this one team member. And it's these very strategic things. And I just quickly
make a couple action points on like, what I feel like is then after the meeting, I'll go and like,
just fire off a bunch of these little things. And it's crazy how much actual growth and movement
comes from just having that one connection, or let me schedule this one conversation with this
person. And again, it's kind of taking it like, it's again, if I'm working with Steven, I've got
all my ideas, like, here's all the things that's on his mind. Okay, let's figure out what we are
doing now together in the week. Based on both of those lists, we can't do everything. But there's
probably some overlap, there's probably some things that were like, Oh, if I just have this
conversation, it actually solves these three things on my bullet on my to do list, right?
That's on my mind. So that's an exercise, take an inventory, things like that. I think the Lord
will prompt you schedule a time if you can like to do this. It's not 10 minutes, it's not 15
minutes, it's probably two hours, like, I just don't think you're going to get anything done.
And if you're like, I don't have two hours, Bruce, I dare you to say that, because I would love to
see what your screen time score is on your iPhone. And because my guess is it's there's probably two
hours in there. If you just do a little bit less scrolling, and I'm guilty of this as well. So
just kind of force it in there. And I do that as the first thing, because it's the most important,
I do it on a Monday, I just built that into my perfect week plan. And that's kind of how I make
sure that it actually happens. And then, yeah, so I think this is just, you know, we're touching on a
very high level here. But I just wanted to encourage you guys, as well as as you're stepping
into taking on this mindset and identity of being a kingdom business owner. This is a different way
of doing business altogether. It's a different framework. You know, I think there's a few people
out there that are teaching it, but it's not common. Like this is not what you're going to
find in most books and teaching and church and things like that. There's I think there's there's
some, some revelation here that we've tapped into, you know, with Pedro, and we've learned
from other people from Keith. And I feel like this is a new way of building things. And what's
surprising about it is, once you do this, you actually make incredible movement. And you get
out of this space of toil, where you're just pouring, that's, that's the putting out fires
thing. That's the like, grinding on just putting out a video every single day and like not seeing
any results. Like, some of that is good. Some of that like is building muscles and building skills
for you for the future. But there is a point where you'll feel it and it'll feel like there gets this
place of, you know, toil mode. And so that's when you want to take a step back, reset your priorities,
kind of refocus because it says that your Lord, the, his burden is, is easy, and it's light.
This is not supposed to feel like you're dragging this huge thing, you should barely, if you're
doing it right, you know, you should you're if you're pulling that cart, that that's, you know,
behind you, you should it you should be doing like 1% of the work if that, but it does require you
doing that work because the Lord's not going to like, do it for you. That would just be silly.
If I just like ran around and like solved all Hannah's problems for her. She's never gonna
learn like we're never gonna have that relationship. If I just jump in and like, oh, she has this
problem, fix it and don't explain anything, just move on and let her figure it out. That's just
silly. Like we wouldn't do that. This Lord doesn't want to do that. And so that's where
like prayers were like, hey, Lord, come fix
This business is okay.
Like it's the heart's kind of there, but it's not really taking on
that thing of a son or a daughter.
It's kind of taking on like the mindset of, of more of like an
orphan or a slave, right?
Where you're just like, Hey, tell me what to do.
Um, and there are times I know in business where we're like exhausted and we have
no, I was like, Lord, just give me like, give me like the one thing to go do.
I just need to go do that one thing.
And those are those there's modes for that as well.
So a lot, a lot of flexibility, but you guys kind of hear, hear my heart on this,
but, um, I would just, yeah, just to encourage you guys as, as you're thinking
and dreaming about your businesses, one, it's going to be way more, it's going to
be way bigger and more, uh, more scale to it than you can imagine.
I think that we tend to dream very small and we tend to look at the results of
everything that's happening today and this week and kind of like, you know,
draw that out on like a linear graph of where things will be next year.
And it just doesn't happen that way.
Um, we've found we've had some insane business upgrades in 2025 that we didn't
have in 2024, uh, not to do with, with tribe or pioneers and stuff that's
totally outside of this and it came because I was sitting like we had a
client that was like, Hey, I want to do this type of project.
We were thinking like, do we even want to do that type of thing anymore?
Back and forth and, um, was sitting outside by the fire and having like a
time just talking and the Lord was like, Hey, um, would you say yes to this
project if like, let's say Elon Musk was your business partner, I'd be like,
Oh yeah, because Elon knows that all these people and he has all this money
and he has all these resources.
Like, I would totally say yes to this.
Okay.
So like, why are we hesitating?
Because the creator of the universe obviously has way more resources than
the richest person in the world.
Um, and so it's just this little thing of like, okay, let me take the step of faith.
Let's say yes to it.
And I said yes to it.
And literally within like two weeks, we had like three new team members that
joined instantly and we took care of that project and we ran it and it's been
successful and it had zero, like we didn't pull any of resources from me or
from our team or anything else we were doing.
And I was like, this is, this is so silly.
It's like, it's, it's almost laughable at like how close we were to not having
this thing, um, that is now like, you know, caused the two or three X, you
know, lift in, in parts of our business, as far as revenue and like real huge,
uh, uh, movement for our business.
Because I was like, Invitation, I was like, okay, like, Lord, are we doing
this or like, what, what, what permission do we have, you know?
Uh, and then you take these little, these little movements and it doesn't
feel like crazy amounts of work.
It doesn't, it is, it's, I'm not saying it's not scary because it's a hundred
percent scary, uh, at times, right.
Uh, it takes a lot of faith, but when you take these little directions, that's
what's caused like the most growth.
Um, it's not like, oh, let me show you this latest thing on tactic on Facebook
ads that you guys didn't know about.
And that's the thing that's holding you guys back.
Is this one targeting trick in Facebook?
And there's tons of those and you get those ads and you probably get, you guys
probably seeing that in your feed all day.
Like I'm seeing it.
Um, but it's rarely that, that that's, that's the thing that's missing.
Um, so don't feel, cause that can kind of start to feel like an orphan as well.
Like, oh, there's all these things.
And if I don't get all the information just right, I'm going to mess this up.
No, like that, that's not how the business works.
Like most of this is happening to Lord's like restoring you.
He's bringing clarity to you.
He's building you up and then you are going to go and do
all this cool stuff with him.
It's not, um, this like paranoid running around.
That's what you see on social media right now in this space.
It's very noisy.
And, uh, uh, yeah, we just, that's just not, to me, that doesn't feel kingdom
and kind of playing to that orphan's bear.
A lot of this marketing, a lot of the language you see is even well-meaning
Christian people are playing to like the orphan, you know, mentality of like,
oh, I'm, I'm too slow.
I'm too poor.
I'm too fat.
I'm too this like, whatever they play to that thing of scarcity.
And then they tried to like build onto.
So I was gonna set some of you guys free on that.
Cause those are the things that I'm seeing in my feet.
And I'm like, this is just, this is, this is the territory we're in.
So we're like aware of it.
Um, this is kind of the lay of the land and, uh, you know, just some things to
keep in mind, like as a kingdom business owner, this is how you're approaching,
uh, building your business in 2025, uh, in this way.
So we'll leave a lot of room for some questions, maybe get into some of
the problems, but hopefully that helped.
If you guys want to comment or give feedback, we'll take a second here and
just chat, and then I can fix my, my focus on my camera, which has been
bothering me the entire time.
There we go.
Awesome.
Any thoughts from you guys?
Take a second.
Get some water.
Well, it's interesting. I came out on the obviously on the latter part of the conversation,
but I suspect you were talking about grind and toil versus light and easy. Okay, which
is interesting because the conference I was at last week, which was a God Talks conferences
and most of us are business people who are kingdom centric. Okay, and what I've learned
to do each morning is just I get up earlier and spend time with God just to get my assignment
for the day. Okay, and figure out what's important for me to do to do then. So Lord convicted
me of that a few weeks ago. And, and it's good, I get I get far more accomplished than
then, you know, I ever thought that I would. And, you know, focusing in on, I think, Macy
two or three, maybe even four weeks ago, we're talking, you were talking about us really
kind of zeroing in on our who and who we're talking about. And I needed to go from just
people who were, as I call dechurched, as in done with church, you know, to people who
have been dechurched or hurt. And, and really still want a relationship with God, but they
don't know where to go, as opposed to just people who are out there who are just moaning
and complaining, and angry, you know, and just want to sit there. So that was kind of
a big revelation and shifting things so that I could focus in on that subset of people
rather than everyone. That was, you know, very important, important for me, but that
came out of, again, just spending that time each morning. Okay, all right, Lord, what's
my assignment? Yeah, that's great. Yeah, I think it's just it's a yeah, there's a reason
that it works well is because it sets the posture, correct, correctly for us to start
this day, start the week, start the start with the problem of like, bringing it to Lord's
like the first thing that I think as soon as we, especially if you have team members
and your business grows, like you become sort of the the savior to jump in and fix problems.
Very easy to do. So same thing. It's just like getting that posture of like, Hey, this
is not, I'm not these people's Savior, Lord is, I need to like, how am I going to partner
with the Lord to, you know, bring freedom and to help people because they we we are
the ones on earth, like helping bring heaven to earth. You know, he's the Lord's like entrusted
us to do that. So yeah, thanks for sharing. That's great. Yeah, Holly, did you? Yeah,
that's such a great perspective that, you know, God's our business partner. It's just
a great reminder. That, you know, it makes you think that it's such a privilege to be
able to co create with God in partnership. I mean, it's just a completely different way
of operating. But I wanted to point this out. And I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.
But I've had times in my life where it's like, you know, I didn't call it a business meeting,
but where you're getting with the Lord, you know, what should I do today? And there are
times where it's really clear and you're getting all this direction. And then you go for links
of time where you get nothing. And that's where I've been where it's like, I'm, I'm
trying to have these meetings. But it's kind of like God's like, well, just you, you go
and do it like he's not telling me the details. He's kind of saying, Okay, you take this for
a while or something. Do you know what I'm Does that make sense? And so it's really interesting
time because I want to get it right. I want to do the right things and not waste my time and
all those things. But then there are some times where God is not giving the details of Oh, this
is what you need to work on to this week or today or whatever, where it's just kind of like, well,
you just you know, what what's on your heart? Like, go go do that. It's it's that's how it's
been recently. Of course, yes, that's that's the real talk. Like, cool. That's great. What if you
can't hear you're not hearing anything? Yeah, I mean, this is I feel like the the Lord is, you
know, he it says it's the glory of God to conceal a matter right to search things out. I think there
is this is sort of an adventure piece to it, right? That prop 25 talks about where you're going to
it's like, you know, if we're talking about this thing today, and there's and it's quiet,
then I'm like, cool, what, like, one, I need to figure out a different mode. Is it like,
I'm going for a walk right now, let me change to me, I typically try to, like, change the
environment, like, I'm sitting at my desk, you know, I'm trying to do stuff, and I'm not just
not hearing stuff. So to me, I'm like, I gotta go to coffee shop, or I gotta get out and go for a
walk, I gotta go do like, just change it up for my own brain to kind of reset. Some of those I was
like, practical, but I think there's some adventures to kind of go on, I think.
I think, um, there's no, there's not like a specific answer.
I'm just being, uh, clear about what I'm saying.
I'm just saying kind of, it's a, that's a real thing.
And so I think to me, it's, it's kind of, so when I don't hear anything,
I go to the last things that I heard.
And so this is kind of tailed into, uh, touching on what Lindsey talked about,
like having your prophetic words handy and being able to pull them up in those
moments, because I feel there's still a lot of life on those words.
And particularly if you have the audio recordings or if it, you know,
something that has just, you can sit and listen to that and you'll
kind of start to hear new things.
So you're just kind of like, Oh, he said this, but like, I actually
didn't realize, uh, you know, this piece of it was in there.
Um, uh, so that's something that I would go back to like, and just
encourage yourself into what was, what were some recent things we heard and try
to basically get some life from that and just see where the, you know, the other
thing you can do as well is this is where it's great about really good friendships
or, or these people in this group as well.
It's like, just get on a, you know, a call with someone, like say, Hey, I'm
starting, like, do you mind, like, I'm stuck here.
Does anyone have any, like, are they here?
Is anyone else hearing anything for this problem that I'm having?
Um, that can be a good thing to reach out to a friend or something.
I did that today.
Like I did a voice memo out to a friend.
Um, we've got some business thing.
And I was, I was very clear not to ask for advice.
Cause he could have easily given me like 50 advice points on things.
I was like, Hey, here's something I'm like stuck on and I'm trusting the Lord
for if you feel like you've got anything on this, I'd love to love to hear it.
And he just, he shared, he's like, Oh yeah.
I was like, this happened to you.
And this is the scripture that stood out to me.
And here's the prophetic word I felt, you know, he had.
So I was like, Oh, it was great.
So that kind of, I feel like I heard from the Lord through this other person.
Um,
that's really good.
Sally just commented that he's written it on your heart.
And that's, I, I agree with that.
I think that's what it feels like.
It's like, God's deposited it already in my heart.
And so now it's a matter of like, okay, so I've got to be able to trust that,
like trust what I already have in my heart and not, you know, it's, it's
like, I want the details because it feels less scary, like specific instructions.
But there's a point where sometimes you have to just trust that it's
already in your heart and go with that.
So it's just, I don't know.
It's just, it's a, it's a little more, um, I don't know.
I don't know what the word is, but it's just a little more scary.
It is.
It is scary.
It costs your heart.
Cause it's already there.
And so to, to go with that instead of thinking, Oh, I need to have this fresh
word, I need to have this specific instructions.
Well, no, I already have the instructions.
So now, um, I have it.
So trust what's there already.
I feel like that's where I am though.
That's good.
I think the, to me, that's the idea of like focus as well.
Like just getting pausing either writing stuff down sometimes just starting to
write or type or speak it out of what you're struggling with can be very, um,
can start to get things moving again, as far as how you're processing your
spirit, uh, responding to that.
Um, because sometimes like, I'll just start, you know, the Lord's like, Hey,
draw your, uh, draw your like cashflow system.
I'm like little squares and I'm like, cool.
This is where the money's coming from.
And this, and it kind of like step back and look, and then it's like
something will get highlighted.
Um, so there's sort of a back and forth thing where it's like the, there may be
some, some silly, what feels silly instructions.
And even if you don't hear it, or you just think this might be a good idea.
A lot of times that's the Lord as well.
Like, Oh, I have this like thing that I want to launch this challenge or do this
event, or I really have this piece of content on my heart.
I want to get out, just like, start doing it, like start
taking some steps towards that.
I had a, we had a pastor, a spiritual father, like years and years ago, who
always said like, he always talks about pulling on the thread.
It's like, sometimes it's just like this little tiny thread and you're like, Oh,
I wonder where this thread goes.
Like just keep pulling on this little thread and this turns into that thing
and that thing and that thing.
And it doesn't seem like the Lord is showing up and speaking in audible voice.
It's like a thought that enters your brain about like, and it's sometimes
it doesn't feel very spiritual.
It's like, let's talk about cashflow.
Okay.
Like let's do some cashflow stuff.
Um, and I think there's also like a maturing as well, because I feel like it
is also a sign that the Lord does trust you as well.
Um, we were leaving, uh, in Atlanta and then we were like living in North
Carolina for a bit and we're like, cool.
We have to decide where to live.
We were either going to go live to, uh, look in kind of Nashville, Franklin,
where we are now, or we were going to go, um, to Northern California.
Those are like our two options.
And we're like, Lord, just, just tell us, like, tell us where this is.
Like, give us like, write it in the sky.
Like, I don't, cause we actually didn't want to decide.
We didn't want to pick the wrong thing.
And, um, something that, uh, Keith has highlighted to us is like, we had this
like, we.
weird sense of like a fear of punishment, that like, if we said that if we picked the
wrong thing, we were getting punished for it.
Like we're going to like, that's just such a silly thought to on the side, like of clarity,
but in the moment is very scary and you don't know where to go.
So you're just like, cool, just give us a sign.
And so, and the Lord did like we, but he didn't, we didn't sit in our room, like in we're in
North Carolina at the time and like this like beautiful, like promise came to us and we,
and we'd like, we're like, okay, it's this place.
We were like, okay, well, we don't know.
But what we do know is we need to like take action.
So we, we booked a trip and we drove all the way to Franklin and we came and met with some
friends here and we just, and not even told them that we were thinking of moving.
We're just like, Hey, let's just go check it out.
Let's get an Airbnb either for a week.
And then just go from there.
And then while we were there, like, huh, while we're here, let's just like see if there's
any houses.
And we tried 20 different houses.
Every single thing was a hard closed door, ran out of all options.
And we were literally like ready to turn around and go back.
And like the night before we left, the Lord was like, our friend, who's our, our neighbor,
we've known for 16 years, just reached out and was like, Hey, my neighbors rent, think
renting her house.
She's, it's not even on the, it's not on Zillow, it's not anywhere.
She's just thinking of renting it.
Do you want to check it out?
I was like, yeah.
I was like, also, we've been hanging out all week.
We'd been nice to know this on Monday, not on the, like the Thursday night before we
leave.
Anyway, checked it out.
And it was like, exactly what we wanted in the perfect neighborhood and the perfect thing.
And the Lord had like, we had exhausted all our options.
And it's kind of like pouring water on the fire, right?
And then the Lord like set it on for like, okay, cool.
You tried your 20 options, like you got that out of your system.
But we kind of went on this journey, like we had to get here, we had to try things,
we had to take action.
Like, so I think there's, there's this thing of like, hey, pulling on the thread.
And then once you think you have something, just, just take that next step.
And that's where I think we get stuck a lot of times is we are waiting for such a clear
word that it's like, I can't miss this.
And then we take the first step.
And it's really a sign of trust.
Like, do we really trust the Lord that he will find like the right place for our family?
Obviously he will.
Like, this is not up to Bruce's decision to like, and if I miss it, my whole family, like
we're going to like raise our kids in the wrong city, you know, like it's that's, but
those are the things, the thoughts that go through your head, like when you're trying
to make these decisions and take, take action.
So good.
Oh, yeah.
Xavier, you had your hands raised and yeah, well, Sally had a couple of questions.
Yeah.
I wasn't looking at the chat.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Do you want to?
I don't have questions.
It's just I sense Holly's moving into a new level and he starts us off by giving us everything
that we need.
It's a little bit like you take the, he's taken the trainer wheels off, but he places,
he writes it on our heart.
So the desires of our heart are his.
So he's already trusted you with it.
And I love the prophetic, the visions, the big picture stuff he gives us because he gives
us that to say, I'm taking you here.
This is who you're going to be.
This is where it's going to be.
But he actually wants us to step out.
And if he does everything for us, we become, yes, dependent on him, which we need to.
But it's together.
It's not you do it all for me, God, and I'll follow every step.
It's actually like, okay, God, you've given me this.
Let's have a go.
And I fall over lots of times, lots of times because I run a hit, but he's always there
to pick me up.
And if I'm moving, he can redirect me.
So I just sense that he's given you everything.
And this is a new season of you running with him, as opposed to walking with the train
wheels.
That's all I had to share.
That's good.
Does anyone else?
I mean, we're talking about Holly.
So anyone else got anything you're sensing for Holly?
Yeah, I would say, you know, one of the things that came out of my conference last week is,
you know, God is, we do love it, as Sally just said, when he gives us the big picture
and the big vision.
He doesn't always give us the steps, okay, right away.
All right.
And what he does is expect us and partially that's because as we take each step, we're
stepping in partnership with him.
And there's a measure of faith, okay, that we have to do to take each step.
And I've come to realize, look, if God doesn't show up, then this is going to fail.
And that's where I need to be.
That's just where I have to be, you know, and my nature is, is to get it all very, very
tight.
So it's good.
I know it's going to work.
I can then focus on the next step and whatnot.
But more often than not, he doesn't do that, which is why I've been convicted to
spend the time with him in the morning. And even though, you
know, yeah, I have the big picture, but how do I get to
what's just my next step, Lord? What's there? What is your
assignment for me today? Okay, and so I get that. And the other
part of that is, is even when you're talking with God into
receiving this, it's very important to have people that
you know, and trust. We also have a relationship with God,
okay, to confirm and validate, okay, where do you think you're
going? And I think that's part of what this group is all about
as well. Okay, and I'm not sure that we're always leaning we
don't we haven't quite learned to quite lean into it. Although
Macy's teaching me to do that. And, and so by leaning into
that and getting confirmation, okay, then that increases the
faith that I need to take the steps that I need to take
anyway. Okay, and upright God, I'm going to take this step
because if you don't show up, well, then it's not going to
work. And I know this, and I'm okay with this. You're my senior
partner. Okay, you're the senior partner in my business. So you
know, this is how this is how this is going to work. You know,
and if you've ever dealt with executives or senior partners,
they're not going to tell you every little detail. Okay,
they're just going to show you the direction that you're going
to be that you should be leaning in, or remind you of what's
already been told. Okay, so that you can you can kind of do
that. So I think you have listening, you have the vision
that God gave you, you have listening to God on a step by
step basis, and you have the confirmation and the
affirmation, okay, of a group of people, okay, that you're
working with who are moving, you know, with you in that. So that
that's what, you know, I think is just most important.
That's good. And like, I don't know if I, my point of the whole
like moving story was that the Lord actually trusted us to pick
something, you know, and I think he would have blessed us in
either place where we were moving. And so there's this
level of trust and maturity where you kind of look, you're
like, hey, what should my group be about? What should my social
media be about? And Lord's like, cool, like, what do you want to
make it about? Like, what, what's actually fun? And we're
like, well, it couldn't possibly be the one thing that I'm
insanely, you know, passionate about. It's probably not that.
It's probably something really boring, you know, like, we kind
of have this, like, oh, and surely it's not like the one
thing I would love to do. So kind of asking yourself
questions. I sometimes just reframing the problem as well is
like, you know, when you're trying to take that next step,
it's like, cool, if I had $10 million in cash in the bank
right now, what would I what would I choose? Or if I didn't
have any employees, like, what would I decide? Or if I didn't
have this, like, what would be my Oh, well, I then I would just
do this. And then it's like, oh, okay, there's that's, that's
actually what like you want to do. Sort of clear, because we
tend to get bogged down with like, overthinking the what's
the right move? And like, well, I've got a family and I've got
a this and like, I can't just make make take this crazy step
of, you know, but if you know, if we there was no risk, or if
you knew you could succeed, what's the one thing you would
love to, you know, to do? So yeah, good. Anyone else got
anything for Holly? So make sure we encourage her.
I was just as you were saying that, Bruce, I was just
thinking about an experience that I had walking with the
Lord a few years ago. And I was just walking along and, you
know, just having a day out walking along. And there were
these little along this along this path was this little these
little out coves places little paths that you could take off
the main path. And I remember the Lord speaking to me, this
was the first time he kind of helped me with right and wrong,
you know, decisions. And I had a lot of decisions at that time
really, that was on me. And I didn't know, you know, exactly
the like, what is the right decision. And it was a lot of
weight on me. And I remember coming to a part and we were
just walking, you know, just moving along talking to the
Lord. And, and I remember looking at this path and
wondering, should I go this way? Or should I keep going this
way? It's kind of doing that. And immediately, the Lord spoke
to me and said, Marcella, either way you choose is the right one
because I'm with you. And I was just like, when I say I could
have had a Holy Ghost fit outside, you know, this path,
but it really set me free. And it just as you were talking
about that, when you were saying like, no matter which decision
or which way we go, I mean, yes, we talk with him and he guides
us and he leaves leads us. And I do believe it's that part of,
you know, growing up in spiritual maturity and trusting
that, that, but he also trusts us, right? He also trusts us.
And I don't think we often think that the Lord, that our
father, God trusts us in the way. Some things he just says,
it doesn't matter which, which.
it doesn't matter what you choose. It's going to be good because I'm with you either way it goes.
Like, He's not going to abandon us in any decision. And so I just thought about that
as you were saying it. But also I want to say one last quick testimony. This experience that
I've been having, like right out of certification, it came on me so heavy. Like, I am now, out of
all these years, starting with Kingdom Messengers, just the Lord leading me and going from one thing
to the next 100x, you know, prophetic heart healing, all these paths, you know, back in,
you know, here we try. The Lord has led me in every step. I didn't know anybody. I don't have
no frame of reference. I don't have anybody saying, Marcella, you could do this or you could do that.
And so it's been, it's been this relationship with the Lord that God has grown. And I'm going
to try to share this without getting emotional because it's this past, as I finished certification,
it all felt like it's a combination. I really felt like graduation all over again with my
doctorate, honest to God. It was like, except without all the pomp and circumstances, cap
and gown and all the things. But when I just had a moment of like, this was done, and it was like
the Lord just painted this picture of like all of these skills that He's given me that I have
acquired in this place of grief, deep grief, deep grief and loss, deep wilderness experience. Just
like, I don't know. And I'm trusting people that I don't know. And they, these people have become
my family, like, you know, but that, you know, truly, you know, my family. And I've trusted
God in that process. And so I was just talking to the Lord, like, okay, Lord, like, what is this
now? I have all these skills. What, what are we doing with this? Like, wait, it just like came
together. And I kid you not, as I was waking up, the answer came, Marcella, you're pioneering.
And I was like, I mean, it just, it could have, you, I could have just faked it. So from that
point, the conversation then went to later that day, I was like, okay, what are my next steps?
And so I got to go back to tribe. I got to go back to my original idea. And I'm having this
conversation with, because it's just me and the Lord here. And I'm having this conversation with
him. I plan to go on a coffee date with him. I'm going to take that, take you up on that offer,
Bruce, or that suggestion. But I was doing my hair and I was saying, okay, I want to get back
to long form on YouTube. I felt that in my spirit, I just said it out loud. And I, and this may sound
really silly, but I have this childlike joy with the Lord. So I've learned to embrace it. And I
said, Lord, um, okay, I haven't done a long form and I don't in a long time. What, what do I,
what do I talk about now? I mean, it's still my channel, still all the things, but what do I start
out with? What I said, maybe I need to ask Bruce. Maybe I need to come. I was all planning to come
in, ask the, ask the community, get all the thoughts, get all the things. And I kid you not,
he downloaded the idea to me. And the profound thing was that was Saturday. The profound thing
was, is to watch my church online that I'm a member of online. My pastor gave the same point
that the Lord said to be Saturday. I could have. So this process is really is about, you know,
I'm not saying it to like highlight me in this whole thing. Like I'm like, I'm in some kind of
place. This is all new for me, but it's learning to trust that. Um, and I do get emotional because
when you've been used to having, having a certain level of covering
and that covering goes, and you don't really know what is ahead of you. Um,
my old life is gone. I used to say that in a painful way, but I can honestly say my old life
has gone and I'm embracing the new I'm learning to live in the new and, um, God and Holy spirit
and Jesus is doing a great job taking good care of me. That's awesome. Well, thanks for sharing.
That's so, so encouraging to hear. And I think, you know, it's the, these are wilderness like
pioneering. Like we, we started kingdom messengers in a pioneering season. I mean,
a part of it is we, we may have started it a little too early and, and kind of had to take
a break, uh, for a bit. Um, and now we're coming back. Um, but it's like, there's going to be
treasure that comes out of these things. The Lord is going to give you these treasure and it's trying
to figure out like, okay, now I have all these things like Lord's confirming things to you.
Like he's got, you got some clarity. You've got all this, again, all these assets now,
all this knowledge, all this training, the certification, all the stuff that you've put
together. And now you're ready. Now it's like, Lord's going to be like, cool, let's go, let's
go take that mountain. And you're like, cool. I know to do this, can do that, do that. Cause
you've like, you've built all those muscles and you've built all, you have all the tools,
um, ready to go. And so I think that it's just a powerful, um, you know, obviously it, and again,
it is building in you the thing. And it, it, a lot of it, yes, there's tools, but there's probably
a lot of like identity shift in that, like, Hey, I had to invest time.
I'm in Marcella to like, you know, learn this thing or Marcella is worth it for
me to spend, you know, buy this other program or this thing, or like show up
on a Tuesday and like, you know, try to grow my business and all that.
So, um, it, that's the stuff that really shifts the most is like, we, we're
obviously after the thing, like the business we're making money or like
whatever the thing is, but there's also this like healing journey that goes
alongside it and that's really what we're finding is like really pulling.
Like if you want to do take on big things in the Lord, like having that, that firm
foundation and your identity and the heart healing and all of that stuff is so
critical.
Um, and the tactics, you know, those are easy to teach, um, but, and that they
come and go, but like, it's the heart stuff that, that, that is really, what's
going to bring you through to the next level.
Um, so that's awesome.
Well, thanks for sharing Marcella.
It's exciting.
Two, two things I want to add to that, because one is one thing Marcella wrote
down, you guys didn't come too early.
Okay.
You were right on time.
Okay.
Lord has his own timetable for, for everything.
And I don't know if you remember, but shortly after we really got started, one
of our sons died of a brain aneurysm.
And I needed to be in the place that I was in and I was there because of you in
order to deal with that, deal with that properly.
So that meant that meant a lot.
Okay.
Um, and the other thing in terms of God's, um, God's timing, you know, he, we went
through the past year we've been moving around and we knew that the Lord was
calling us to move and then we got some idea of where it was going to be.
It didn't happen in the timing that we wanted, but we finally figured it out.
And then we, we move a place temporarily that we move somewhere else.
And then it finally looked like we found the right area.
And I came up and long story short, absolutely nothing went according to plan
and it all went the way it was supposed to.
And it was perfect.
It was just, you know, enabled me.
The place that we've got now is calm.
It's peaceful and enabled me to finish the book.
Oh, Macy.
So I just wanted to show you, thank you.
Okay.
So that this is actually the proof.
They messed it up to prove it again, but that's okay.
Um, but I got it finished.
Okay.
Um, and, and so we're, we're here, you know, and we have a particular timetable
on our own heads, but God has his own timetable and I think more of it has to
do with growing us to the place that we have to be at in order to fulfill the
vision that he's given us, then it has more to do with that than, than anything
else.
And some of those things take longer and some of those things we know about
and some of those things we don't.
But, you know, that was just, that's just the way that, that things go.
So God's timing is the right timing.
Our duty is just to partner with him and, and, and listen and, you know, edify
one another, affirm one another, you know, confirm all the things that, that, that
God is doing.
That's why we're, that's why we're all in all of it.
That's how it's great.
So good guys.
Well, great session.
I'm glad, uh, got to hang out with all of you again.
And I know basically we'll do some other stuff this week.
So get into the, um, just, you know, implementing all this stuff, right?
Like getting, first we got to get the vision, then we can like know where to
go and, um, then we've got all of us.
And I think as well, if anyone's stuck or they're feeling like they're not
hearing things, just reach out to the community and then we'll just drop some
comments in the, in the chat, you know, there and, uh, help encourage each other.
So awesome.
Have a great week, everyone.
We'll see you next time.
Bye.
All right.
See ya.