Hello.
Hey, Robin. Hey, Marcella.
Hi, Liz.
Hello. So fun to hang out with you guys today.
Yes.
It might actually be a little bit of a smaller group because I know there's some people traveling.
Macy's actually in Redding, California right now at School of the Prophets with Bethel.
I'm not jealous at all.
So she won't be on the call with us today, but I saw a few people had put into the Pioneers group that they might be out, but we'll wait to see.
Here comes Sally.
Also, I might be a little bit back and forth because I'm hosting solo, so like letting people in and making sure no one's in the waiting room.
Okay, you got it.
This will be a little bit of a stretch for me as far as like, okay, how well can I host this Zoom on my own?
There's so many factors to consider.
Hey, Sally.
Okay, Marcella.
We'll see who else joins.
Here's Job.
I saw that you had dropped in not too long ago that you finished your landing page.
Yes.
Congratulations.
That's a huge win.
So tell us a little bit about that.
Yes, I met with Macy last Thursday.
I met with her last Thursday and she was kind of like, you know, tying me just, oh, it feels crazy, last Thursday and just kind of sharing with her what I wanted to do.
And so she kind of helped me to, I had the idea, but just kind of helped me flesh it out.
And then, you know, just putting it all together, getting all the links and everything going.
And so I'm excited.
It's like, oh, I can't tell you how I feel right now.
I'm excited to be able to share this with you.
I'm excited to express just what this has culminated to.
I didn't see this, like this feeling, this, I knew God was working on something.
I knew it was, you know, you kind of sense like, okay, Marcella, you've been underground now.
You've been doing your work.
You've been gleaning at the tables.
Let's go.
But no, it's like, yeah, just it's exciting.
It's just exciting.
So I'm glad to have that part done and that I, you know, told Macy I would have it done for today.
And I did.
So excited.
Awesome.
And I love the journey.
It's been, I mean, this is what I love about doing stuff like this within community, because we get to, you know, the testimony is an invitation to do it again.
But I love the journey that you were on, Marcella, and how even just the cadence the Lord had you on as far as really solidifying you and your identity.
Like a couple weeks ago, you released that identity statement and shared it with the tribe group.
And I know that took some time.
It took input from others that you trusted.
It took you leaning into what was the Lord saying to me, what has he been saying, you know, through my history and what are the patterns that I'm recognizing.
And then owning that.
This is who I am.
And then not just owning it to yourself, but actually putting it out there for others to see.
Right?
So it was very declarative.
It was declaring.
And then from that place it seems like there's been the things that have been on your heart for a long time are starting to come to fruition, which is really cool.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I could not have.
I was like, okay, put it in the group.
I didn't even think to put it in the group.
But I was like, oh, wait.
Yeah.
You know, when we're like chugging along, it is good, though.
Like, again, this is because there's something about it.
I know we've talked about this a lot.
The reps of publishing.
And utilizing that tribe group, utilizing the safety of this circle to, you know, go first before we go out even.
Like there's something really powerful.
There's something I feel like really happens, and I'm not trying to over spiritualize something, but I felt it in my own journey when we say it out loud.
And we share it with others.
And that obviously is happening in layers and levels on each of our journeys as we're entering into our industries, entering into the technology spaces, the digital landscape, all of that stuff.
So it's just a great practice.
And Lara, I don't want to put you on the spot, but I know that you had dropped something in recently in the tribe group as well.
That you had been spending some time collecting the prophetic words and your journal entries and the, you know, the inklings and the whispers.
And that you were.
really wanting to challenge yourself to step out more. So do you mind unmuting and sharing a little
bit about the journey that you've been on? So can you hear me? Yes. So I'm still collecting,
so I have a lot of journals, so it's taking longer than expected, but I came out with
keywords and a particular thing that I keep seeing journal by journal, year by year,
which is, you hear God's voice. And this is people reassuring me year after year,
like you hear God's voice, so you can trust that. And I just noticed that today, actually,
the repetition. So it's been very beneficial going back and rereading them, because I'm
picking up a theme, and that was one, and then all these keywords, like bridge builder, connector,
identity builder, things like that. So I'm on the process. Yeah, you're on the journey.
On the journey, yes, I'm on the journey. Now, tell me a little bit, though, I'm curious about
what's happening to you. Share a little bit of, if you don't mind, let's be vulnerable,
like internally, when you're reading those things and noticing those patterns, do you feel like,
okay, I accept this, I see it in my life, and this is who I am? Or are you finding there's
any resistance right now, as you're going through that process of noticing the patterns of, hey,
people keep saying this about me, bridge builder, and I hear from God, and what is that like?
Well, the thing that came up the most is a little bit of being displeased with the amount of time
I'm taking to accept it. Because these are things that were said to me, like I can start all the way
down to 2019, 2018. And while I was looking for my prophetic words, I was reading my prayers.
And at a certain point, I couldn't believe that those prayers are still prayers I have today.
And some things have not changed. And like seven years have passed. And so it's like, kind of,
okay. So I feel like I'm kind of a point where I really need to step out and take
action. Because this could go on forever, if I don't decide to move, move with it,
the words are there, the promise of God is there. If I don't move with it, 10 years from now,
I'm going to be exactly where I was seven years ago, with the same doubts, same things.
So I think that's probably a key revelation. That action is the most important step I can
take now. I need to act out those promises. I need to act out believing that what God said
is true. I need to act it out. And I'm seeing some head nods. So I think there's a lot of
resonance. We can all relate to that at some point, even if we're not there right now in
our journey, like we've been there, that discontent of the time that's passed or
the not seeing the change. What is it going to take for you to take action? Have you identified
that? No. Okay. At least I can't express it. I guess it's just, I know it's more simple.
The simple thing is taking the small step. My block is always thinking ahead and always thinking
big, and then I don't take the small step. And the small step, I have done seasons where I took
small steps and they did produce fruit. But then life happens and you get discouraged again and
you let it go. Instead, I know that the small steps, that's the path. So I need to take
that one small step and not stop. That's a great point. I think, especially for people who live
prophetically, because there's the now and the not yet, right? And there's the gap of seeing what it
is in the future and all that it can be in the scale. And then we kind of have to not despise
the small beginnings of that and take the small steps. And that takes some discipline. It takes
some holy discipline to stay present when it's like, well, it's just going to be big and it's
going to take me taking some small steps and finding really contentment and joy and delight
in those small steps, even knowing it. And if I could be real, when you're in the small,
not comparing yourself to the people who are a little bit ahead that you perceive are ahead and
doing the thing that you want to be doing, right? But enjoy and in Thanksgiving, celebrating them
and not condemning yourself for not being there yet. Okay. So I've noticed something though,
when you were talking and I hope this is okay.
So I think this is gonna be really helpful.
So I hope it's okay.
I'll continue to have this conversation.
Again, I'm gonna try and put you on the spot,
but this is helpful, I think, for people.
It sounds like it's been a pattern
where I've taken the small steps
and then discouragement has come.
So have you identified that wall?
Because what happens with patterns is if we can identify it,
that's actually helpful
because we can then do something differently next time
than continuing just to, for instance, take the small step
and not really confront?
Because it doesn't sound like it's the taking
the small steps that is hard for you.
You've done that before.
What's hard is when resistance come
is continuing to move forward,
which I can totally relate to.
So have you identified, okay,
what is it gonna take when the resistance does come?
Because it will come, because this has been a pattern.
Well, it takes small steps and then life happens
and either I don't feel like I have the time
or the focus or the energy or whatever to continue on.
Have you come up with a plan of action in that place?
I don't have a plan of action,
but I do see the things that have blocked me.
So for sure, it's the fear of what I can't control.
So like family issues, intense family issues
that pop up suddenly or other people
that have patterns of destruction
and that interfere with what I do,
because I work at home.
So everything that happens at home,
I just, it happens here.
And also the fear of overworking,
because I did this start like a cake business in the past
and it scarred me, like it really destroyed.
I loved it because I loved the job of cake decorating,
but it just, it consumed my body.
And I am still scared of overworking,
because even my small steps in the past,
my small steps took a lot of effort and time.
It wasn't just, it wasn't something like super easy,
five minutes a day.
I do it for a while.
It was hard work, but I could do it.
So I get to a point where then something happens
and then I'm just, I feel like I justify myself.
It's like, oh, well, life, this shouldn't happen.
And it's like, you have other things to take care of.
So maybe the pattern of giving the situation control
instead of keeping control of what I'm building,
that is for sure a pattern.
Okay.
And yeah, I love the honesty too.
The chat is kind of blowing up.
I think again, this is resonating
and it's helpful for us just to talk this through.
When we're talking about taking the small steps,
do you feel like it's the external that is hard work?
Or is it the fact that what's happening internally
and what you're having to contend with internally,
whether it's self doubt or fear
is what makes what's happening externally harder?
Well, probably the internal has more impact.
Okay.
Because then when external things happen,
then they kind of question your beliefs internally.
Yeah.
So probably that's the biggest thing.
I think that this is maybe not everyone's struggle,
but I think for a lot of people,
it's all about,
and we've talked about this a couple of different times,
really untangling ourselves from the toil
of the work of our hands.
And a lot of that's internal.
It's a lot of it, it all comes down to what am I believing?
And it's often like we have the capacity
to probably do a lot more externally,
get the to-do list done,
write the copy,
publish the thing,
build the business.
But often there's a lot of toil
that it enters into our work
because of what we're having to contend with internally,
whether that's unbelief,
whether that's self doubt,
whether that's emotional drain.
So that's why I was wondering, Laura, on your journey,
that's what contributes to burnout, in my opinion,
more than an external something.
Like people can run marathons.
I can't run a marathon right now
because first I have to believe that I can run a marathon,
which will then engage me into a practice
of training for a marathon
and keep me motivated for when it's hard,
when it's rainy, when it's cold,
when I'm sleep deprived,
because I have a seven month old.
So I have to, in order for me to run a marathon,
I don't just start running.
I have to believe differently.
And what makes it hard for me right now
is I don't believe that I can do it.
And what makes other people capable of that
is that they believe something.
different. They believe that they can. It's hard. It's physically hard. So I'm not saying,
oh, that's easy. That would just be easy if I believe differently. But there is something
where when the resistance hits, some people can hit past the resistance and some people can't.
And I will all day long not push you into striving. That's not my goal. There are
seasonal realities. I'll use a very Christian term. There are seasonal realities
that come up in our lives. But often, if we believe differently, we can move through a
lot of the resistance that continually comes up, right? Because there's always going to be life,
and there's always going to be hard. It might not be our hard. It might be other
people's hard around us that we're supporting or loving or doing life with.
But if we can acknowledge and be very honest, this is where I wanted to kind of get to the
point of it. This has been a big breakthrough for me, being honest, which is hard for religious
people to do. But we're no longer religious people, right? We are breaking out and learning.
But when I was religious, you can't have a bad day and still be a leader. That's kind of
the implication, right? Leaders don't have bad days. So you're just like, you can't really admit
how hard it can be, right? So it's a big deal to say, I acknowledge that there's a pattern right
now in my life where I get to a point and I hit resistance. And it's real. It's not necessarily,
I'm not saying it's not real. There's burnout, there's seasonal realities, family, there's life
and stuff. But I have to admit that there's a pattern, right? And I'm not saying it's not real.
And so there has to be a breaking out of the pattern. And the only way you can create change
is to change and do something differently. What is like the old sayings, like, you know,
insanity is like doing the same thing and expecting different results, right? Like,
so we know. So a couple weeks ago when I was on here and I put a lot of effort into putting some
riders in place before I even asked the question, I'm like, we're not going to do this with
condemnation. We're not going to do this with shame. We're not going to do this with blame.
But the question I asked is what prophetic words have you yet to experience in your life?
What are the prophetic words you're holding onto that have been spoken over and again that you have
yet to walk into? And I wanted to do that from a place of no blame, shame or condemnation,
because we automatically go into it. Oh, well, you know, there's so much time has passed and I
need to do this. I need to do that. And we have to get to the place at the bottom. At the end of
the day, the way that we unleash ourselves from toil is we have to stop letting our doing inform
our being. And we have to start letting our being inform our doing. Because there is doing that's
going to take place. Like we don't just sit at home and then our destiny unfolds, right? That's
not fun. That's there's no delight in that. But the Lord has just in his kindness to us created
a partnership. He wrote our destiny scroll out and then for the sake of engagement and relationship
with him, that is his deep desire. And so yes, there's actions to take. There's work to be done.
But it can truly be done from a place of delight and joy and expectation and not dread and blame
and shame and condemnation. But I think vulnerability, honesty, living in the light
is the key to unlocking a lot of this. And that's why he gave us each other. He gave us community.
He placed us in a body, right? So that we're not doing this alone and that there would be a safe
place to land with these questions and these doubts and these uncertainties and these fears
and just being willing to say, I don't know how to do this. I had a situation yesterday. It was
actually just what all you need to know is yesterday was a day of growth for me. I found
myself in a situation and it was kind of silly. It doesn't matter the details, but I had to get to
a place. I had to tell Bruce, like this was so hard for me. I said, Bruce, I don't know how to
advocate for myself in this situation. I'm stuck. I know that there's a phone call that I need to
make. I can't do it. I just feel stuck. And so he said, can I help you? And I said, yes. And that
was a big deal for me. It was a big deal for me to admit as a 38 year old woman that I couldn't
make what would for most people maybe be an easier call to make, but there was a lot of things
attached to it. There was a lot of things happening internally as well. And I needed help. And I needed
to be able to say, I don't know how to move forward and I need help. And can you help me? Can you even
help me take some of the steps? Help me take some of the action, right? So like Marcella jumping on
a call with Macy, like help me get this done, right? Like that's why we're here. We want to
And we don't want to just, you know, be your cheerleaders.
We want to help you like move along on the journey and get the stuff done.
Maybe some of the stuff that's been sitting on a shelf for a long time.
So I'm encouraged, Laura, hearing you process that.
And I think, I think what would be important is thinking through, okay,
when the resistance comes, what are some guardrails?
What are some things that I can put in place now before, before the
resistance hits and, you know, my mind feels a little bit, maybe jumbled
and it's, they might be a little confusing, but in the, and this is for
everyone, what, what is the pattern?
Can we be honest and with no blame, shame or condemnation, right?
Cause once that hit, once the blame, shame, condemnation hits, we actually
are not, our brains are not functioning at full capacity.
So like, we have to release ourselves from that and we have full permission
from the father to do that, right.
And saying, okay, I just, I see it now.
I know I need to make a plan and if I can't figure out what I need
to do, I'm going to ask for help.
I'm going to get some feedback.
I'm going to ask for wisdom.
And I would encourage you all to do that.
Not just in the secret place, obviously start there with the Lord, but also
do that in the context of community.
Cause for some of us, that's more scary.
It's a little bit, it's a little bit more scary to say it out loud to
another human being than it is to say it to the father, like this is where I'm stuck.
Help.
Cause a lot of times we say, we ask for help and he gives
us community to help us out.
Okay.
Anybody want to add to that?
Cause I'm seeing y'all nod.
Thank you.
Yeah, of course.
We'll continue the conversation.
I'm really excited for you.
Um, and I was just reading your, I read your blurb in the tribe group and I'm
really excited for this group because I feel like the Lord is wanting to
pioneer something massive, massive.
Like generationally.
So I know each of us are carrying some things in our own history that
the Lord is wanting to redeem.
He's wanting to restore.
He's wanting to break out and break through.
And I think the body of Christ as a whole has been on a journey of
learning to trust each other again.
Cause we've kind of come out of religion and then there was some, you know,
understandably so like, Oh, that was, that was abusive because religion is abusive.
And so then people were, some people were a little bit scared to engage with each
other and it's like, well, I'm going to just, it's just going to be me and Jesus.
And we're going to figure it out together.
And I think there's seasons for that, but I think Jesus kind of prods us back in
and say, okay, go make some friends, go make some brothers and sisters, have some
spiritual fathers and mothers again.
And you guys are going to be that for each other, but you'll also be that for
the communities that you're going to be leading and the clients of your
businesses, your customers.
So we have to go the way to show the way.
So I feel like the Lord has got fathers and mothers in the spirit right now that
are engaging in communities like this.
And it's for you first, not just for the people you're going to serve.
We, we so easily go into servant mode and we're sons, we're daughters first, you
know, we so easily go into, okay, but yeah, it's about, I'm learning this so that I
can teach others.
No, you're learning this so you can enjoy the goodness of God and your own life and
your own journey and experience your manifest destiny here in the spirit.
I know that, that, that again you have to dwell on the door of service we have to
say, we've got the door of service in all of our undertakings.
So we're trained to be true these…
Let me say it again.
Let me praise the Lord in all of her meetings and scriptures that God proposed
to us in all of the world.
She's like, man, I don't even know how many more times than that you have to
go and read books and find better affirmations.
That's a message to all of us.
We are training in the spirit that's the Holy Spirit, God says your soul goes with
it.
That comes from God.
That's what you're chatting about in the chat.
Xavier, I see you on mute, go for it.
I'll start because when you mentioned blame, shame, and condemnation, one of the
things that the Lord's taught me recently in the framework that I use is to start
with him and ask him about what lies do I believe about whatever it happens to be.
Okay.
And just ask him to reveal that and then ask him to reveal what is the truth about
whatever this happens to be, you know, so that I can release the lies and reaffirm
that truth.
And so it's just become a daily thing for me.
And, you know, as you mentioned, coming out of religion and into relationship with
him, it's just a different way of looking.
and everything, but to also emphasize and affirm what you said about community.
I think I've said this before, but I definitely believe that the Lord has brought us here so that
we can affirm, so that even when I'm talking to the Lord, just talking, you know, and opening up
to the rest of you, and I have to learn to do that better, then I get confirmation of what
He's been telling me, okay, and when you have a group that you can trust, you know, that are
following the Lord, then it is, there's nothing like that, okay, it really just propels you even
further to, you know, to kind of move along, so I think that, you know, everything you're saying
is right on the mark, and I know it's not just for me, I know it's for everybody who's here,
because, yeah, we are going to be passing this on to others as well, so that they can do the same
thing, and as we work with others, and they work with others, and they work with others, that's
what's going to make the difference, that's what's going to change the world, so thank you.
Yeah, you do bring up a good point about kingdom math, and that's multiplication always, not just addition,
so some of us, as we're going through our prophetic words, right,
and contemplating the scale at which the Lord is speaking to us, it doesn't end with you,
so for me, I'll use myself an example, there's, I have words about speaking to arenas of people,
I know I've shared some of this with you guys already, and before Zoom was a thing, before
social media had really taken off, I was getting words like that, so I only had one picture, which
was like being in a physical arena on a physical stage, and what it would take to make that happen,
which is typically, you know, you write a book, you do speaking engagements, and then you kind of work
your way up the speaker circuit ladder, Christian speaker circuit ladder, and you eventually get
invited to an arena, right, that was the only, in the natural, that was the only context I had,
but God is not bound by time, right, and this is, hopefully this will be encouraging anyone who's
feeling similar to Lara, of like, hey, he spoke this back in 2018, and here I am, and there's no
change, I have a cool story about that too, so I'm getting, I'm getting words about that, and all I
can think about in my natural brain is, okay, like, that's gonna, that's gonna mean I gotta write some
books, I gotta get some speaking engagements, I gotta put some press releases out there, I've
gotta start networking, I've gotta, whatever, podcasts weren't even like a big thing back then,
so it was like, everything was very, you know, step-by-step, and a slow process, slow-moving
process, unless you're just like, we're, we're like a wonder kid, and, you know, someone happened to
see you at some, like, random women's conference, and said, hey, come, you know, come, come, you know,
let me mentor you in the bigger things, right, I mean, that's just reality of it, but then social
media takes off, okay, great, but still, you gotta build an audience, you guys are in that right now,
building an audience, and putting content out there, and being consistent, then comes the
pandemic, and being consistent, then COVID hits, and people are home, and a month before COVID hit,
I got my podcast out, and started posting, none of that I could have made, like, I could do the
podcast, but I didn't build social media, I didn't create COVID, right, but the Lord, you see, like,
and he's calling it before it's time, giving me the heads up, and I wish I could have said at the
time, oh, I received that word with joy and gladness in my heart, and I was full of faith,
no, you know what I did, guys, when I started getting words of, you're gonna speak in arenas,
I dreaded it, I dreaded the work, because at the time, I did not have a right believing about what
work was, there was a lot of toil involved in anything that I did, for the Lord, or, you know,
for my nine to five, or whatever, because I was stuck in approval seeking mode, I wanted to be
loved, I wanted to be liked, I wanted to succeed, which is not inherently bad on its own, because we
are wired for love, we're wired for acceptance and belonging, but without a revelation of that
already being fulfilled in the finished work of Jesus Christ on my behalf, I'm working for something
that's already mine, that I actually can't achieve on my own, and that's the suckiness of religion,
working for something that you already have, and with the belief that it's all up to you,
and you're on your own, and neuroscience is catching up to what I was actually experiencing
years and years ago, so neuroscience, I'm gonna butcher it, so I apologize for the people that
actually work with the brain.
And no more than me, but I will put it down into layman's terms.
When you're approval seeking, when that is your mode, your, uh, what is it called?
Your, uh, amygdala, amygdala, amygdala.
I think that's how you say it.
Yes.
Okay.
I'm getting it.
Yes.
Okay.
That gets ultra sensitive.
So you become more and more eagerly, easily triggered by
the possibility of rejection.
Not actual rejection with, which we, which we have resilience for in, if we're
healthy, but the possibility of rejection.
So we get more and more sensitive are to the point where our bodies even respond.
Our cortisol levels rise.
We kind of get the, we're in that stuck mode of fight or flight.
Our nervous systems are dysregulated because of it.
Like we were not made to live in approval seeking mode.
We were made to live from a place of approval.
I'll always not for acceptance, but from acceptance.
Right.
And so what's happened with a lot of people, I think in the body of Christ,
who are just wanting to be good Christians and be good for God, like me,
like it came from a pure place.
She wanted to be good for God.
She wanted to be loved and liked by godly people, wanted to be affirmed,
wanted to be validated, wanted to be accepted.
But I got stuck in that mode where I became more and more sensitive to needing
that, that even when it happened and there's neuroscience behind this, that
even when you do get approval, it's not a big enough of a dopamine hit.
It doesn't even scratch the itch anymore because you just need
it more and more and more.
Why is it that we can get 45 positive comments on a post, but the one comment
that, you know, told us we were prostituting the gospel and we didn't
know what we were talking about is the thing that sticks with us.
So in order for us to move forward from a place of health and resilience, as we
grow and become more even public facing in our industries and our spheres and the
digital landscape is we have to really settle in our hearts once and for all
that we are accepted in Christ because of Christ and we are fully loved and there's
nothing we can do to chip away at that.
And there's nothing we can do to add to that.
But I think that's exactly why we have to be transformed and renewed in our minds.
Absolutely.
That is the whole point of of of everything.
And as things taking a long time, you know, from one point to another, the Lord just
kept reminding me about, you know, one, Moses was 80 when he when when I say when
he, you know, set foot on his mission, but he spent 40 years basically, I think,
unlearning what he'd learned in Egypt the first 40 years.
Probably it was 40 years of unlearning it.
And then God cut him loose.
Yeah.
And I and I, you know, I could be proven wrong.
I have to go back and reread the the thing, the story of Moses.
But I don't think there was ever a point with the Lord said, Moses, I'm really
disappointed it took you that much time.
No, exactly.
No, there's not.
I've gone through it in detail because it's God brought it to me.
So I'm going through in detail to study that.
And no, I mean, that wasn't it.
I think the Lord was more concerned about building Moses.
Yeah.
And I and I know that's that's exactly what, you know, what he was after.
So because as Moses would grow and believe in Moses, I mean, hey, how how
relatable in so many ways where it was like the creator of the universe is
literally visiting you through a burning bush and you're like, yeah, I don't know.
I, I learned you really did me, you know, but but but I think the point is we have
to get to a place of such trust, of such trust in the Lord, guys, such trust in the
Lord when he says, I'm pleased with you and I love you and I accept you that we get
past the time conversation.
We get past the fact that Lord is taking so much time.
I've taken so much time.
I'm so sorry.
It's it's taken so much time.
Time is a tool.
It's just a tool.
And so my point being, you know, I could have started taking steps towards the arena
life and maybe it would have happened that way and there's nothing wrong with that.
But I didn't.
And then the Lord still leveraged what was happening as time unfolded with
technologies that weren't available and glory to the Lord.
And I think that's what we need to do right now.
global situations that had not yet unfolded,
leverage that so that there was a time when every day,
not just once a year when I was speaking at one conference,
but every day when I started posting,
I was reaching upwards of 200,000 people,
which is a pretty big arena.
Yeah.
And speaking of time, I'm impressed.
I have to share something then I promise I'll be quiet.
You take your time.
I've been traveling a lot,
which is why I'm here sporadically and whatnot.
And I was given a task to do just before the meeting.
And I'm thinking, Lord, I don't have time, okay,
to do the meeting and actually get this done.
And then literally the Lord goes, excuse me?
Okay, because I have learned to allow the Lord
to bend time for me to let things get done.
And so this conversation was really, really important.
And when we think we can't do things, okay,
well, God has the resources to help us
to get those things done.
And Sally, just to respond to what you wrote,
you said, how we do the 1% and he does the 99%, okay?
That is a total matter of trust.
You have to trust that he's going to help you get through it
and get to get across the finish line, okay?
And it's building that trust in our relationship with him
that makes all of the difference in the world.
And when we learn to do that,
then we stop worrying about time.
We stop worrying about resources, okay?
We start listening to what the impressions
that the Holy Spirit are making on us.
We confirm them with each other, okay?
And we just keep moving forward.
It's a completely different way.
And that's how we are not working from a place of toil.
We are working from a place of rest and a place of peace.
And it's peace because we know
that God's going to come through.
So I just wanted to add that.
That's awesome.
And we will get to a place
where we're not just not worried about time,
but we welcome it to come serve us.
Right.
Like we will be so renewed in our minds
that we won't just be worried about resources,
but we'll welcome them.
We'll be open to greater possibilities and greater realms
and that's where we're heading.
Sally, do you want to unmute a little bit?
I know you're sharing a few things in the chat.
I popped in a Word document,
which comes from Dr. Bruce Perry
around the arousal continuum.
But ultimately when we are in Christ and Christ is in us,
we only stay in the green.
We don't go into the red.
We don't go into doubt.
We don't go into fear.
But what that chart shows you
is what happens to our physical bodies
and what happens to how we then react rather than respond.
So it was just in line with,
you were talking about neuroscience.
And so I thought it was a good document
to just pop in there.
That's awesome.
And Sally, would you mind when you have time to,
when you have time,
to put that in our pioneers group as well?
Just so it's accessible for people
who won't be on the call.
I want us to get into the practice of doing that as well,
just like sharing resources we come across.
Because how helpful has it just been
in the last 30 minutes
just to share each other's processes a bit?
So I want us to get in the practice of doing that
more and more if you guys are up for it.
So yeah, so approval seeking.
So I want to go back to
what we were talking about a few weeks ago.
And I don't know if,
I know that Marcella did.
I know Lara's been working on it.
Yap's been working on it.
Sally, you said you've been working on it
as far as going back
and looking through the prophetic words that you have.
And what my challenge was,
was just to take those
and utilize it to identify patterns,
to put together an identity statement
of things that you can declare over yourself.
So how is that going for everyone?
I know Marcella's done.
She's did it.
There's the video to prove it.
Sally, you're unmuted.
Yeah, I mean, I've spent,
I actually decided
I've got a whole heap of prophetic.
As soon as you said that,
I just take my pile out
because I've got a pile
in every single prophetic word
since 2017, when it all started.
I've written it down
and I go back and I reread them.
So I feel like they're very much,
and it's always been for now.
It's always, yes, there's stuff in the future,
but it's always been,
I'm blessed that I haven't had to wait 20 odd years
for these prophetic words to come.
They literally come and they have the same flavor.
And then I said to God, okay,
so I, cause I'm now on a stage
where I've got to be able to say who I am
and what I do and working with the boys at Linda's Fun.
I talked to all about who I am,
and then I told them what I did.
And I'm like, oh no, that's the wrong way around.
So I find it really hard to read the label
from inside the jar.
I could probably share what God sees in each one of you
or how I see each one of you, like boom, boom, boom,
no problem.
But when it comes to myself,
it has been the hardest journey
and I have struggled to put that together.
So I thought, right, well, what I'll do
is I'll just put it out there.
So in the groups that I'm involved with or lead
or I'm part of, I just put it out and said,
hey guys, I've got to put this pitch together,
which I'm doing later on today.
So I think I finally put it together
about half an hour ago.
But I have to put it to just share who I am and what I do.
And God wants me to do it that way,
not this is Sally Webb, international speaker,
blah, blah, blah, whatever the stuff is.
He says, no one cares how much you know
until they know how much you care.
And so it was about shifting that.
So I put it out there.
And then what I did was I poured it all in,
it was great testament, it was lovely.
But I poured it all in, I stuck it through AI in here
and it churned out what I do, not who I am.
So it was interesting, even though I was very specific
about this is what people say about me,
help me put together who is my character, who am I?
So I flipped it and so I sat the hour before here
and wrote who I am and what I do.
So I'll be attempting to put that together for later on.
I'm excited to see how it goes, how it's received.
Yeah.
Because it's very countercultural, right?
We all lead with what we do.
Yeah.
In the world, it's like, oh, hey, I'm Lindsay.
Oh, what do you do?
Or what do you do for work?
Or what does your business do?
And so it's interesting that you are contending with that.
Yeah.
I'm happy to share it if you want me to read it out.
I would love to, I was going to ask you to.
Okay, let me just see if I can get it up.
Okay.
I'm going to take the scarf off, it's a bit warm.
Okay.
Hi, beautiful people.
I'm Sally Webb, a firecracker who is kind,
considered and deeply rooted in my faith.
I wear my heart on my sleeve.
I'm honest, open, direct, and to the point.
My life goal is to see and to live
in a world filled with love,
peace and joy.
To date, this is exactly what I've created in my own life.
I believe we are blessed to be a blessing.
And my heart is to see all those in the world around me
thriving and living a genuinely abundant life of their own,
complete and free from the stresses
and strains of this world.
I see and get to be a small part of miracles every day.
The skills, tools, and frameworks
that have been divinely given to me,
that I get to share with others,
open heaven over their lives.
It is an absolute joy to witness firsthand
what people once believed was impossible,
become possible for them and to see it done.
I get people moving when they're stuck,
stalled, momentarily lost,
or looking for someone that gets them.
I believe there is nothing wrong with anyone on this planet.
I believe there is a need for alignment sometimes.
My joy is to see people running the race
that's set before them,
in the lane they're uniquely designed to win in.
It took me 55 years to find my lane.
With blood, sweat, and tears shed along the way,
I have proven tools and frameworks for who?
To move and go fast and go further
than they ever thought was possible.
My name is Sally Webb.
I'm an alignment specialist, pioneer, leader,
collaborator, and life navigator and engineer.
I am brave and courageous, spearheading the way,
locking arms with those willing to step out in faith
to become all they're called to be.
In the words of Teresa Cook,
if you wanna go fast, go alone,
but if you wanna go far, go with others.
Today, I invite you to find your tribe, to run your race,
and arrive in your final destination with no regrets.
Visit www.inspiringperspectives.co.nz
forward slash life by design.
design call and get connected today.
Thank you for listening and blessing me
with one of the most precious commodities
you have to give, your time.
What?
That was incredible, Sally.
Thank you for sharing that.
I don't think I even have to pose the question,
but can you tell the difference of that
versus, oh, I'm an international speaker and what?
Guys, this is what the world craves.
To be known and to know, like fully know each other.
This is the difference.
This is the kingdom way.
And do you know what?
I got the blessing on every eight weeks,
so every week, every rotation that we have with the boys.
I get to sit with God on a Sunday afternoon
and I go, okay, God,
and I literally just have their faces and their names.
It's all I have, I just have a list.
And I go, okay, what do you want to say to this boy?
What do you want to say to this boy?
And I get to write it on a pad like this for each boy.
And he gives me at least a couple of scriptures,
sometimes a song, and some words about their character.
Not about what they're going to do,
although he did have an engineer and a lawyer this week.
And yesterday, I got to deliver that to the boys.
And I get to see them all.
I get to, not one word is the same.
You know, not very rarely are the scriptures the same.
I mean, Matthew 6, 33 comes up a lot, and Jeremiah 29, 11.
But he, and I watched 18-year-old boys weep
as the Holy Spirit filled the room and blessed them.
You know, I can honestly say,
I have never, ever experienced a life
like the one that I live right now, and watching others.
Those boys, every single one of them,
they're not allowed phones in the classroom
when they do the last thing during school,
with the last period.
And I said to them, look, you know,
Sir talked about, you know, six years,
he was given a word, and six years later it happened,
and he remembered, God brought it to remembrance.
And he said, at that time, I didn't think that was the case.
And he said, look, for those of you who wanna keep it,
you might wanna get your phones out
and just take a photo at the end of the class.
22 boys got their phones out
and took a picture of the piece of paper.
Like, these aren't even Christians.
These are kids that are just at school.
And it is the Holy Spirit in this season is on fire.
We now have six schools in our area
that have all started up Jesus Clubs.
Some of them have got nothing to do with God, technically,
and they are firing in this season, it is.
But yeah, it's taken me some balls
on to hang out with God and to really declare who I am.
So thank you for letting me do my first practice.
Thank you for sharing, such a gift.
You need to record that, that's what you need to post.
If people need to see it and hear your voice.
I've just somehow put the Holy Spirit on hold
because he just, and a couple of times yesterday
when I was giving the prophecies, he just comes
and I'm like, I'm sorry, boys,
you'll just have to excuse the fact,
and I've got tears rolling down my face.
Boys, you'll just have to excuse the fact that that's,
it's how it works.
And they're pretty good,
but I'm not sure I'm ready to put the whole,
I can be vulnerable with you guys,
but there's a level of vulnerability
for something you'd put out into the public.
Oh yeah, there is.
I think it's important when we have things like this,
and Rachel, you're right there,
like I was gonna tell you even that,
so when you recorded your declarative statement,
I mean, I'm sure you did it a few times, right?
But the practice of just saying it out loud
and even making it a daily practice
I think is so important.
Like get it in you,
just like we would memorize scripture, right?
Like we wanna get that in us.
This is more than just an exercise of like a one and done.
This is something that it's really important
for our soul and our body to hear
what our spirit already knows to be true
because we're informing ourselves in this
before informing others.
And there's a power there in agreement
and saying it out loud.
And I'm sure there's nerve signs behind that too.
But so yeah, Sally, I just, I was like, I continue like,
I'm sure you are,
because this is kind of who you are.
but like declaring the saying that over and over again over yourself like make it so it's a part
of you that it's not just words on paper or words on screen but this is what I'm I could say this
from memory because it's just who I am and I own this um for some of you it's just going to be a
sentence it doesn't have to be long it's just going to be an I am statement and I think sometimes
in in different seasons it's different statements that he emphasizes right like for me right now
I am an author I am an author and I have to own that I have to say it out loud over and over again
and I tried to do the thing that we all do and we call it humility where I was like okay
I'm going to start to write the book and I'm not going to tell anyone until it's done
because how like impressive would that be right that it's like the book is here
and that lasted for like a week or two and then I felt I found myself it almost felt dishonest
to not talk about it I started to find myself in conversations with friends were like hey what
have you been up to and I would almost have to lie not lie but I would have to omit the truth
to continue the secret of I'm not working on this project and so I began to just own it
Sally you've got your hand raised oh just to say one of the things that I've learned on this journey
in this sort of writing a book um was to take people with you yeah and that's the biggest
you know what the world is all about look at me I'm an international best-selling author
that's what the world's about but God is about let me let me take you on my journey let me show you
the blood the sweat the tears come and walk with me let's do this together and because no one no
one puts that stuff out there no one says this is really tough so celebrating you for that insight
because what actually happens is as you break through at each step you give permission others
to do so if we just come with a finished product we're as much use as a chocolate fire guard
but if we take people on the journey and we show them the pitfalls and the stuff that doesn't quite
work right the beauty of it is our test becomes our testimony and because we sit we start in the
heavenly realms we finish in the heavenly realms and we live in the heavenly realms so what happens
is as we go on this journey we show Christ throughout the whole thing we show how it works
and that is what brings the breakthrough but if we're not on the if we're not showing people the
test we can't share the testimony if we're not walking it and they go why is she not stressed
when all this is happening and you speak it they don't get to see so go girl be that
let me tell you guys something really cool because sally mentioned ai
and i'm sure some of you are using ai or all of you are using ai there's a lot of there's a lot of
dialogue right now about ai obviously um some people think it's of the devil some people think
it's the greatest thing that ever happened on the on the planet earth and there's everything in
between and i want to first of all encourage us to like obviously we embrace all all things with
wisdom just like we would do with social media and technology but if you're finding yourself
being super resistant i would i would take that to the lord and even like dialogue a little bit
in this community about why that is because i really believe just like with any technology
it's a weapon and it really it really matters in which whose hand is holding it right so if it's
sons of god that's going to be a blessing to the earth that is going to advance the kingdom if it's
sons of darkness we're in for hard times right okay so i think it's important for us to be
open to new technologies and then asking holy spirit to help us steward those in wisdom
okay so all that to say i've had prophetic words about writing books for as long as i can remember
okay not a surprise to me that there's books in me i have attempted to write books many many times
this is going back to what we were talking about with laura at the beginning noticing patterns i
have attempted to write books multiple times and it had there's always i hit a point of resistance
and then i just let it go okay some of that's a discipline issue right that i need to break
through there's some focus things there's some and then some of it just felt uncharacteristic
right like why is people write books all the time so there's some belief stuff and everything like
that but i i did feel a piece about timing when it came
came to the order of things.
So I began to take what I was writing,
you know, behind the scenes and in secret
and bring that to posture.
So that was my podcast that I did for a few years.
And there was an expression of that, I'll say that.
So in that season, there was the question,
people asked me like, why don't you also write a book?
And I was like, I really feel at peace
that this is not the season for that.
I need to be focusing on this.
But now that some of that is on hold
and I've got this fallow field before me
and I'm asking the Lord, okay, what do we till?
What do we plant?
The thing of a book came up again.
And I know there's a pattern within me.
There's a record now of,
hey, every time I've attempted this, it doesn't work.
So if I attempted again the same way,
there's a real possibility.
It's gonna go the way it always has gone, right?
But what is available to me now
that wasn't available to me then?
AI.
I wanna do this with wisdom, okay?
So I did not wanna get on chat GPT or whatever
and be like, write a book about God's peace
because that's not me writing a book.
That is basically plagiarism, okay?
So that's wisdom, right?
And that's, people are stuck there.
There's people that,
there's a lot of ethics questions right now.
So we just have to, we have to wrestle with those.
We need to like confront it.
But what I do have is over 200 podcast scripts
where I spoke daily and weekly about my journey,
my journey to God's peace,
my revelation about who I am in Christ,
who Christ is in my life, all those things.
So that's a tedious task to just take that
and try to make it a book.
But now I have AI, okay?
So now I can engage a tool, just like time is a tool,
just like there's a different technology that are tools.
AI is a tool.
And I can have it help me put together a book
or a book.
So I'm like, I don't know how this is going to turn out,
but I'm going to try it.
I'm going to like believe something different
because at first I was like, no, I don't,
I don't want to plagiarize.
And I'm like, it's not plagiarizing
because it's literally my work.
And you can give the chat prompts,
like do not extend beyond my work, use my language,
use, you know, and then you can question it.
Because if you see something and say,
where did you get that?
It can say, hey, I'm referencing episode 105.
Like it gets very specific.
It's amazing technology, right?
So we put together a book.
And now what I get to do is I get to essentially work
with an editor named Claude, my chat.
Claude is actually an AI tool himself.
But, and I'm saying, help me as an editor, edit this.
There's a lot of delight in that type of workflow
than me trying to, on my own, go through all my old scripts
and try to put together an outline.
And I'm very much writing this book, right?
Like I'm going through it.
I'm saying, hey, I want to include this story.
And I'm adding that in there.
But I'm getting to do it in real time
with what would even have cost me thousands of dollars
to do with an actual editor and publisher
and all of that stuff.
And we can be upset about that if we are editors
and say AI is taking my job.
Or we can recognize that this is the time to level up.
And AI is going to be replacing people's tedious task,
but they can't replace people.
So it would behoove us to learn how to lead AI
in doing those tasks.
And now we're experiencing
what used to be considered miraculous and supernatural,
which is an acceleration of time.
It's pretty cool.
It's very cool.
And let me just affirm what you're doing
because I did a very similar context for my book.
I've been writing inspirations for 20 some odd years.
Okay, just things that the Lord had
and trying to put it together
and doing everything that I could.
It would not come, I could not get it together as a book.
And then the Lord showed me that,
we were in for changing seasons in our lives.
We moved twice.
We ended up moving up to Dallas,
nothing that was supposed to happen.
I mean, nothing that we had planned to happen did happen,
but everything that was supposed to
is actually what happened.
Okay.
And so throughout all of this,
I was also training the AI with all the things that I,
well, a lot of what I've written.
Okay, and then feeding it back.
And so I spent six months just not knowing what I was doing,
just putting it in there and making everything come together.
And then I started working with it and just had the outline
and just asked it to outline this and do that
and improve this and improve that.
And what I was not able to accomplish
probably the last 10, 15 years
since I've been trying to write a book,
I got done in less than six months.
Okay.
So, you know, that that was that that is really what happened.
So I know part of it was the season.
Part of it was me growing into becoming who I need to become.
But it was also, you know, taking the tools that are available
and being able to shape that.
And, you know, I'm working on an A.I.
version of myself, if that's not too scary for anybody.
But it's based on everything that I've written and and and
and the things that I believe and have to share, you know.
Listen, we were in a time just a few years ago
where you're working with different ministries
that were creating essentially an A.I.
bot for their ministry
because they were getting so overwhelmed with questions
that they wanted to put together
like a library of answers for the questions that were incoming
because they did not have the staff
or the resource to staff a bunch of people to answer these questions.
But they wanted to minister it like they wanted people
to get the information they were looking for.
OK, what was it took months to build?
Then now you can literally get for free.
Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, this
what an incredible time to be alive, guys.
I mean, it really is.
I mean, and it's shocking how accurate can be if you train it properly.
OK. Yeah. And that's what I mean by the guardrails.
It needs learning, learning how to utilize these tools.
Hey, Tali, I see your hand.
You go ahead and real quick.
I know we're kind of come to the end.
I've been doing the same thing because I wrote a book during covid
and it's just been sitting there because I didn't know what to do next.
And it was going to be thousands of dollars to get it professionally edited.
So I just kind of shelved it for a while.
But now I've been doing the same thing.
I just and I've learned so much since I wrote it,
you know, back in 2020 or whatever, that I feel like I
I just know so much more.
So I've been kind of updating it, upgrading the language
and then running it through a I just chapter by chapter,
just kind of going through.
I've been doing the same thing.
So glad to know that that that's that's everyone's OK with doing that
because you kind of go, well, is this OK to do?
I guess so. You know, I mean, it's your work.
So this is a thing.
It's about accelerating time and it's about leveraging.
I mean, what was literally blood, sweat and tears
getting it done the first time.
And here's what's so cool.
There is a good chance that if I had not taken that leap,
all of that hard work and all of that would have just been shelved
and left in time in the past.
That's what all of a sudden it's now brought to the forefront.
And it's it's there's new life on it.
You know, honestly, I feel like now is the time for like what I have.
I feel like now is the right time for it to get out, to be released out.
So I think it's yeah. Yeah.
I'm feeling that, too, in my face.
I know for that. Yeah, that's amazing.
Well, this has been a great conversation, guys.
I would love for you to continue to press into those identity statements,
press into the prophetic and just a way of showing your work,
if you will, is bringing it to the tribe group and sharing it.
And it doesn't have to be finished as any perfect.
But again, like this is a safe place to land.
Do the easiest next step.
OK, so if it's too much for you to like make the video
because that feels too like either you're shy or whatever, type it out and share it
and then commit to yourself that in a week I'm going to I'm going to record this
like we need to it's kind of getting bolder and bolder in the steps of
the ways in which we share it.
I want to show my face to the group and I want to say this out loud,
just like Sally did today. Right.
Today. Today, right now, I feel like I've got the bravery
and the bandwidth to type it out.
But I'm going to commit to like pushing even harder into.
That's not the finished thing.
I need to now like record it, have me saying it, share it with the group.
And I'm going to do this, too.
I, you know, I want to I want to I know Macy's working on hers.
Bruce and I have been working on a pretty exciting project
that's going to help organize prophetic words
because we need it for ourselves, because I'm I'm similar to Laura,
where I just had it kind of in a bunch of different places.
And I'm like, no, I want to I want to centralize location.
So it's easy to not just easy for me to access.
But I'm I'm there's some things where I'm in legacy mode as well.
Like I want my kids and my grandkids to be able to like find these things.
And if the house burns down, I don't want it to take my journals with me.
So there's things like that that the time is now.
So bless you all.
We will continue the conversation in the tribe group.
If you have any questions or anything you wanted to add,
feel free to do so there, but have an amazing rest of your week.
All right. I'm with Holly.
So if you will just I missed the assignment itself.
So I'll go back and play. Oh, yeah, I missed it.
I missed it, too. Yeah, that's fine.
Let me make it easy for you guys.
I'll drop it in the tribe group, just a summary.
So you guys know what we're doing.
I would be awesome. Thank you. Great.
See y'all later. OK.