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recording as well. So this this idea of the One Big Dial, I want to spend just 10

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or 15 minutes walking us through a practical exercise on how we can do that.

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As I was thinking this through I was looking at the idea of if it's the Lord's

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One Big Dial then what would that what would that look like? And so there are a

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couple of exercises we can do and the training I put together for the team

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side of this is talking about this One Big Dial but it doesn't go through the

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exercise of it. And the reason is is that look as small business owners you know

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we need to identify and then focus on one single metric that transforms the

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whole business. When you turn that thing everything moves. Here's the interesting

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thing about that dial I think you get it better by revelation than you do by just

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hard analysis. Although I think you might have to go through some practical

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downstairs steps until you find the one that makes you know like the Lord says

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now you've got it there there it is. And I think for many of us that you know we

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can think about this. Last year we did an exercise and I asked you this we did

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this simple exercise. Let's say it's five years from now and somebody's

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come in to buy your business. So just picture that for a second. It's

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five years in the future so it's 2030 and you're about to sell your business.

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You're sitting in the lawyers offices you're in the closing. And so the

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question here is how much are they paying and what exactly are they buying?

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And the reason for that exercise was to help you find the One Big Dial. And so as

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you're thinking through this you know you've got a couple of key elements of

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real value creation. So for instance you know you've got a team of leaders. That's

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huge to a buyer because it means they don't have to bring in leadership.

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Specifically private equity firms don't like to have to bring in leadership or

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bring in management. They love to buy a team that's already highly functional.

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And so there are only a couple of categories of buyers if you like. You

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know you could sell it to competitor. You could sell it to a private equity group.

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Maybe you have a family succession which is effectively selling it to

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your kids or you know giving it to your kids. Or you just give it away to you

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know like Bill Goff did. You know because he did that thing it's Thursday we're

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giving something away. Anyone who knows Bill Goff? And so he had this big

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law firm and one Thursday he got the whole staff in and he went to one of the

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younger attorneys hand him the keys says now the law firm is yours. So you could

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do that. And they said but why? And he says because it's Thursday and I

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give away things on Thursdays. That was his reason. So but here's the

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interesting thing. It doesn't matter who you're selling it to. Whether you're

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selling it to your management team, to your family members or even if you just

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literally just gonna shut it down when you're done with it. It doesn't matter.

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All the results of that is to help you find what's the big growth potential.

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What's that big dial that if I turn that the value goes up. And the last

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time we did this several people came back to me and said well you know I'm

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not really thinking of selling it so much of the exercise applies to me. I

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think I'm just gonna give it to my kids. And my answer is why would you want to

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give your kids a low-grade business? If you knew you had to sell it to someone

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and they came and said you okay change these few things and that would you know

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add a zero to the purchase price. Wouldn't you do it? So why wouldn't you

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do that for your kids? You do it for a complete stranger who runs a private

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equity firm but not for your kids or not for yourself and not for your yoke in

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the Lord. So all that's to say is that there are best practices. There are

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things you do in your business that give it value. I have been as a private equity

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firm. I've been on both the buyer side and the seller side of the transactions.

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And I can tell you there's nothing worse than watching an owner realize in

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that moment part of the reason why you as a private equity firm are buying it

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is because they miss something. Because there's some dial you can turn that's

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gonna pull that whole business up. Now sometimes it's roll-ups and all that

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sort of thing and there are other more strategic reasons. But I've seen the case

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where they go hang on a second so if a year or two ago I'd made that one small

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change this would have been worth twice as much or three times as much. And the

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answer is yes it would have been worth two or three times as much. So that's one

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exercise we can use to kind of get ourselves to get to think you know to

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work on the business and not so much stuck in it. Because when you're in the

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day-to-day in the business it's hard to zoom out and see exactly what it is

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you're doing. So today I'd love us to take a few minutes and practice do a few

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exercises to get us there. Now what's your business

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is worth today okay we're gonna sell in five years time I asked you what's the

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number it's good you have a sense of what you think that number might be and

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then what could make that number bigger is figuring out that one that one big

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dial now there are only really three ways to value a business three there's

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lots of variants I have a book this thick on my shelf I think it might be

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behind me on on business valuation but it comes down to three big categories

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the first is what we'd call book value this is the lowest form of valuation

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basically this is great if you have a lot of assets like you're in a big

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manufacturing facility there's a lot of physical assets but those assets are

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depreciating anyway but that is book value in other words what's the value of

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the company if you if you take the balance sheet and look at it and some

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most business especially service businesses have a very low book value so

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that's clearly not a way to value it the other is market comparison

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especially in more publicly traded or in an environment where there's a clear

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public sector that you can compare it to so the question then is what would a

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similar business sell for in your industry and so now we're looking for

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and so what every industry has its own kind of multiples like oh they'll sell

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two to four times annual profits you see you know as seen on TV on Shark Tank

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they just do five times revenue which is hilarious because that's extremely

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generous and it's meant for show and and for whatever but it's not reality so for

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so you know people say well the business is well you know you for 10% of my

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business for a million dollars so you just valued your business at 10 million

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dollars and you've got a hundred thousand in revenue you know so you see

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a lot of that on Shark Tank but but the way an emerging business a growth

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business is valued is on discounted cash flow so we just look at the future

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earning potential of the business and then we we attach a risk to that future

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and say well we're gonna discount at 7% a year or 10% a year obviously the

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further you go out the bigger the discounts and and by the way I've

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developed my own model for valuations and blah blah which worked better for me

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but the bottom line is it's a black box and every year it's dropping a lump of

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cash and over the next five years what would those lumps of cash be and then

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discount that down a bit and there's your number and the problem with that of

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course it's all based on spreadsheets you know you just take spreadsheets five

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years into the future but typically it's based on the five years previous to that

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so that so that there's some sort of you know legitimacy to the future claims and

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you know like having well-documented assumption I'm assuming based on the

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last five years we can do it again for the next five years the following all

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that is three boy so we can do one of those three ways the book value market

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comparisons or discounted cash flow or DCF as it's known in the industry and so

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you end up with these what a lot of people who look at business end up with

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what's just a bunch of rule of thumbs you know they're saying well a service

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business typically is one to three times annual profits how much did you make

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last year well we made a hundred thousand okay it's probably worth

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between a hundred and three hundred thousand depending on what its upside

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potential could be product businesses tend to be more two to five times

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profits but then they are these anything where there's a reoccurring business

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where that business you know where the customers are there for a number of

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years particularly now we can be anywhere from 5 to 15 times but if you

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have something unique something special then there's no limit to that multiple

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in other words so I had a friend who came up with a brand new restaurant

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category and I think it was called fast casual of fast fine dining or something

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like that I forgot an exact category and he sold his for 15 multiple so they

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came in wrote a check for 15 X on his profits in tech you get valuations that

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are just stupid you know because what there is what they're looking for there

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is that the rate of rise so you've got companies with billion-dollar

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valuations and they don't even have revenue or very you know minor revenue

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pre-revenue is the nice polite term and but you know so in other words the value

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of your business is in the eye of the buyer it's what the buyer wants to do

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with it could be that the buyer wants to buy it and roll it up with similar

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business and then sell it off to another bigger private equity firm and they will

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just sell to each other and that's why private equity is a strong case that is

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destroying businesses because what it's doing is it's just doing all these

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roll-ups and you know and it's become so highly specialized by industry and then

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by the level they operate at but whether whatever that view might be the question

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is what's your business worth and it's good to have a sense of that today and

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you can say well you know we're not making a lot of profit yeah but your

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business still has some sort of forward potential so what what is that value and

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so I have a very clear thing in my mind that I want to see I want to build

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brilliant for instance to a twenty million dollar business I don't mean

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that just that it'll be I mean it'll be worth twenty million dollars not that

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Nestle have twenty million dollars of revenue so well then I can say well as a

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rule of thumb if I'm looking at 5x and I have to be at four million dollars you

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know in net profits well if I'm doing four million dollars in net profits and

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that's ten percent of my overall revenue then I need forty million dollars so forty

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million dollars would give me ten million dollars of net profits and if I

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mult sorry I only need sorry I did that wrong way around didn't I so if I wanted

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a twenty million dollar business and I'm using 5x I need a four million dollar

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run rate or revenue yeah I did that correctly so doing this all live doing

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valuations in my head but as we're thinking about that the thing I want you

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to get is what is your business worth now and then where you think it's going

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to be in five years and then again what's the one dial that you can turn

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that makes that move so there so we've talked about the three key drivers right

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team of leaders predictive reoccurring revenue and especially if there's a lot

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of free cash flow generation that that makes it more valuable Warren Buffett

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says when cash is predictable it's valuable and you know so that's why

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people who do kind of one-off things that's a lot harder to get a high value

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for that but the minute you have got reoccurring all the all the revenues

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predictable in some form or another then you have a much higher value business so

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here's here's what here's what buyers want right they obviously don't just want

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strong financial performance they want to know how can this scale and you know

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what's the growth potential here if I because they buying the company they're

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usually gonna do something to push that scale up maybe because it fits into their

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group and their group can immediately help scale the business or they plan to

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put a lot of growth capital into it to take it to the next level they're

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planning to scale it in some way they seeing some growth potential and again

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the growth potential is tied to that one big dial if you can if you can explain

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it to yourself and your team what the one big dial is then you're in a

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position where everybody knows exactly what you do okay let's get this let's

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get this really practical let me give a couple of quick examples let's say you

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in the restaurant business then what would be the you know the one big dial

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for the restaurant business you've got fixed cost got range got labor you got

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food cost all that what would be the one big dial so I think as an example there

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it could be revenue per customer so let's say you knew that your revenue per

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customer you look at your total revenue and you divide by the number of

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customers over a set period of time let's say monthly and let's say that

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number is $40 so you figured out that you on average have $40 revenue per

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customer now the question is how can we increase the revenue per customer so

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yeah we can negotiate our end get slightly food you know cheaper food

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things but what if we then took the entire team focused that and publish

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that number it's like watching the ballgame and everybody can see the

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scorecard everyone can see the scoreboard right imagine going to a

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football game well the scoreboard isn't working are we winning I don't know we

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seem to be a lot on this side maybe we're winning you know that would be a

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terrible game to watch well do your team know the score so if you knew that

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number and you displayed that number so maybe you now start training your staff

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on doing you know wine recommendations and pairing or have higher-end you know

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dessert options or you know as they're checking out having you know sort of to

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go snacks or whatever the whatever the extra things are what you'd be pushing

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for is increase the revenue per customer so that means all our training all our

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focus or coming up with premium options really enhancing the experience of

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being there one group actually did this and what they found they went and took

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their top 20 receipts of their customers and they found there were all groups you

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know of between I think was between four and six or

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six and eight, something in that range,

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but they were often family gatherings.

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So they made a special program, you know,

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for family celebrations.

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And, you know, in a six month period,

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you could easily double that number,

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double the revenue per customer.

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Okay, so I'm gonna take a second there

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and cycle back to you

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and just see what you guys think so far.

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Robot waiters, yeah.

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I'm not sure robot waiters will do much

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for revenue per customer.

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I think they'll lower the cost,

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but I don't think anything,

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unless you make it such a cool experience.

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Ray.

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Two fun examples is Panera.

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You know, Panera has a sip club

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and it is, they now have 48 million members

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that pay $14.99 a month to get unlimited drinks.

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When they went from 10 to 14.99,

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they actually increased by a hundred million dollars

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because people, when they come in,

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they buy other stuff.

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And then another one that's really fun,

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it's right down the road from me,

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is Cooper's Hawk.

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And so Cooper's Hawk has a wine club.

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They have 600,000 members

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that get the wine club shipped, you know, every month.

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They have these little wine tastings and everything.

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They make so much more money

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from the wine club than their food,

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which is pretty cool.

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So what they've done there is they've found ways

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to increase the revenue per customer specifically.

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And, but there could be other industries,

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like for instance,

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what if you're in an e-commerce industry, right?

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it's about the lifetime value of a customer.

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like at Brilliant,

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we know that our monthly subscribers

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generally stay for, until recently,

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but for about 13 months.

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that's a huge, huge increase for us, right?

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Then if while they're 13 months,

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there is an upsell to join the school.

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to somebody who's involved in a bigger program,

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or maybe they're even enrolling in the $7,000,

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you know, school year in the School of Leadership,

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or whatever it is.

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so that was one of the big things we started focusing on.

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But if you're in a SaaS company,

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like let's say what Promforge will be,

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and to some degree is what Brilliant is,

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a SaaS company where software is a service,

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then it's the monthly churn, all right?

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your acquisition costs for the customers

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tend to be fairly stable.

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you know, the ads got expensive

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because, you know, it's an election year or whatever,

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but for the most part,

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they tend to be somewhat predictable.

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And it's a lot easier to keep a customer

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than to go and get a new one.

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And you watch the telecom companies do this.

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They spend thousands of dollars

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getting you to come to their deal,

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you know, to get on their plan, Verizon or AT&T,

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and then the customer service sucks,

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and you say, why?

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So, you know, Ben, you wanna weigh in?

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Yeah, I think that monthly revenue,

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recurring revenue is the dream a little bit.

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I'm curious with this Brilliant group of people

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in a product-based or, you know, construction, roofing,

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I've thought often about, you know,

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I've thought about how to find some recurring revenue,

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what, you know, what service,

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what value could we offer that would create that?

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And I'm wondering, I guess, off the top of your heads,

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any ideas?

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Yeah, I can speak to that.

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I've got some ideas on the residential as well,

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but on the commercial, we're definitely doing it

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with general maintenance programs.

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So that's a big one.

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And we come back every year, we perform the maintenance,

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we guarantee that roof to be leak-free for the next year.

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And then, you know, each time we come out,

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we reassess, and then eventually,

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they get to the point where there's not enough to work with,

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and we need to do a restoration.

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You know, full roof replacement

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is kind of like the last resort.

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We're really trying to push that out as far as possible.

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And with modern technology and the coatings and things,

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we can do amazing things,

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and sometimes indefinitely push that roof replacement out

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of the equation with full system warranties,

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no dollar limit, full system warranties,

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which would be the same as if you were doing

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a brand new roof on it, you know?

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So there's a lot of really cool options.

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It's sustainable, you know, great for the earth,

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and, you know, less in the landfills,

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but, you know, so there's a lot of side benefits.

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On the residential, kind of a similar thing, I've noticed a lot of the home service companies around us, that we've had come out, they get you in a little program where you get some perks, you get a discount, their trip fee gets waived, you get VIP status, they come out, you're at the top of the list, if you need them, and then there's some discounts and different things.

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And you just pay monthly for that, either monthly or annually, for that kind of a subscription, if you will, the other sorts, you know.

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And put them into those four categories, remember the four squares where you talk about profitability versus effort, right? And then you look for where they are, and you'll find that you'll have a bunch of fours, which is they were high effort and low profitability.

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And then there was those were less effort, high profit, I think it will start helping you point to how you start to maximize and then once you're there, then you can start asking, is there some way we can increase the average project size?

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And here, you know, niche specialization or packaging helps, like, oh, we're partnered with so and so, we also do whatever air conditioning or whatever, you know, with Jeremy's roofing or whatever, you put a package deal together.

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And especially if you can add to that an annual maintenance program that covers multiple areas, because think of the convenience to the customer, I don't have to worry about this, this, this, this and this in my house.

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These guys not only built this new part or did this reno for my house, but they also now are taking care of whatever.

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So I don't have to, I'm sure you've thought of those sort of things.

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But what helps is starting with the data.

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You don't want to just do red hat, you know, intuition, you want white hat, you want factual data.

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It's really good.

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I mean, we are, are, are the buildings we specialize in are low maintenance.

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It's just one of the selling points.

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Although I think, you know, in the turnkey house thing, there may be some maintenance things we could look at there.

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Probably digital products.

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Emily, I mean, this is something I have looked at.

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I think the, the recurring, I think the nature of our projects, particularly as people are trying to do some of the subcontracting ourselves, that actually is the answer.

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It's just been difficult.

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I probably need to maybe thin slice it more and just start with something simple rather than trying to boil the ocean with the whole community.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think what we do is we just get a fuzzy feeling about how all the projects are going and we see them on a list or in a spreadsheet.

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And so it doesn't, it doesn't help.

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What I do from a kingdom viewpoint, upstairs viewpoint, is I sit down with the Lord and I ask him this question.

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Would you help me understand the business the way you understand it?

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And that's a big help.

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Second thing I ask him, where's the starting point?

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Very often it's the four square thing.

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That's how I came up with that, by the way, way back when.

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Cause he just asked me, well, what is it you want?

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And, and I said, well, Lord, I want to do projects that are profitable and that are, you know, highly repeatable.

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I, there is a, you know, it's not like there's unknown stress or complexities, but also I want to do stuff that's right.

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And that gives us shiny eyes as a team.

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So, you know, if somebody said, would you come and be the temporary CEO for three months?

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Or actually I think the number was four months recently at a hundred X.

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So which turned into 13 months.

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That's not my best space.

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Right.

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And, you know, Pedro was really generous and, you know, he was, he was great to work with.

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The, the reality though, is that's not my, that's not my shiny.

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I have to be the leader of what I do.

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I'm a terrible number two, which I told him on day one.

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But it, it is, I think it is, you know, that it, it comes down to those very simple things.

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You were sharing a story there, Ray.

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Yeah.

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Just, you know, Emily's suggesting digital products.

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You know, Joe Polish is a pretty famous story.

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I don't know how many people know Joe, but, you know, Joe, he built a carpet cleaning company through very unique marketing.

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And then he succeeded bitcoin.

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He started teaching all the carpet cleaning companies

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how to do it, built a humongous event.

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He had a thousand carpet cleaning companies

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come to his event.

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And then he launched the Genius Network,

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which is one of the more premier masterminds out there.

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Regularly has all the big names at him and everything.

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And I was a part of it for a year.

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But that's, you know, you just, if you,

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you know, if you like the idea of teaching and stuff,

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that could be an entire other business.

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There are a lot of guys who go.

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There are a lot of builders

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that would love to know what Ben knows.

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Yeah, so that's called going meta, meta meaning above.

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So what you do is you look at how it's working for you

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and then you go and teach others

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to do the same on scale, right?

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So that's a great way to shift a whole industry.

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Find like, you know, if you have a unique building

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or a new technology, there's so much.

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I'm very interested in building technology.

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I follow several key players, you know,

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all the new tech that's out there.

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And I've always been thinking,

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this seems to me the one industry that hasn't changed forever

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and somebody is gonna just turn the whole thing.

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Whether it's somebody like Boxabl or whoever,

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it's gonna turn this thing on its head.

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And I know there's pre-manufacturing

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and there's printing of houses going on in Texas and so forth.

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I've seen some of the stories and watched some of the things

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but none of it strikes me as the game changer thing.

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They're still trying to figure out the economics.

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They're trying to figure out how to scale this thing.

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So I thought I'd just throw in a couple of quick examples

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because that might help get the juices going.

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So let's take a restaurant business.

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It's got 200 customers a day.

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Average ticket value is $38.

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But there's rising costs, rents are going up,

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labor costs are getting more expensive,

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food costs are improving.

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And now we're at the point of just basically breakeven.

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Are we gonna make it?

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But when looking at the top 20,

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which is another way of saying the four square,

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if you're doing the four square analysis,

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you can put all your receipts into four squares, right?

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And then saying this is our number one, this is our top 20

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because 80% of the value of the business is in 20% of it.

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We know that 80% of the life of a business

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is in 20% of what you do.

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That's a big thing to know going into this analysis.

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Then we know that we go, oh, hang on,

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let's do this family celebration

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or family feast for 46 people.

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Let's do that.

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Let's get better wine,

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better help train the servers.

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But now everybody's seeing the scoreboard.

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So in this case,

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where it goes from $38 to $58 in eight months,

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suddenly we've increased revenue by 53%.

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So in that particular,

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we go from breakeven to an 18% profit margin just quickly.

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And what did we do there?

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We turned one dial,

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but more importantly, everybody knew the dial to turn.

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So, you know, when I was doing my PhD research,

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I came across a fascinating case study.

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And what the story was is that 50 CEOs from US and Europe

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were doing a worldwide tour

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to visit the best run companies in the world.

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And they end up in one of their stops is in Malaysia.

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And there is a company there owned by a Brit in Malay,

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and they'd figured out how to extract lead out of pewter.

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And they had all these pewter products.

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They had 3000 employees,

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one of the fastest growing,

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literally just dominating their market.

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So they go to the presentation.

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They're in this theater.

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They're about presentation.

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They're expecting the senior management team

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and the owners to walk out and do the presentation.

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And they are not the ones that can imagine the surprise

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when five people in blue overalls walk out.

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And these five people in their blue overall,

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obviously line workers and shift managers and so on,

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present the products, their technology,

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their unique positioning in the market,

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their marketing strategy,

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their capital cost structure.

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It just, they just blew out the whole thing.

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They knew the business.

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So at the end of the thing, you know,

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the presentation, one of the CEOs, typical CEOs,

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thinking about his own deal, right?

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Raises his hand, he says, okay, time for some real talk.

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How long did it take for them to train you five guys

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to make that presentation?

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And they all look kind of confused.

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And they go, no, no, no, you don't understand.

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We heard you were coming.

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So they put up on the notice board in the factory

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who would like to make the presentation.

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The problem was 3000 people put their name down.

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We were just the five lucky ones chosen.

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Now that to me, there was the lesson right there.

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Forget what they said.

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00:29:39.280 --> 00:29:42.960
The fact that everybody in the business understood

466
00:29:43.600 --> 00:29:45.600
what the big dial is.

467
00:29:45.600 --> 00:29:46.680
And they knew exactly.

468
00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:49.360
And because of that, all the other components

469
00:29:49.360 --> 00:29:52.520
that make up the business is all dialed into that.

470
00:29:52.520 --> 00:29:56.800
Another quick story is of a consultant

471
00:29:56.800 --> 00:30:00.000
who arrived in a company in Chicago that manufactured.

472
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:05.280
telecom equipment and so he was hired to come and help them up to us they're

473
00:30:05.280 --> 00:30:10.560
really pretty well-run business and so he did an unorthodox thing he decided to

474
00:30:10.560 --> 00:30:14.800
go to the loading bay instead of to the reception area and he met one of the

475
00:30:14.800 --> 00:30:18.960
one of the people there was packing all this equipment into the back of this

476
00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:25.520
this truck and so he said to the he said guy you know what do you do here he says

477
00:30:25.520 --> 00:30:30.800
well I I pack all the equipment and and then I send it out for the installers to

478
00:30:30.800 --> 00:30:34.440
install and he says well how do you know what you do matters I mean how do you

479
00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:38.440
contribute to the bottom line oh that's easy you guys says last month I increased

480
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:43.920
I decreased our installation cost by 30% is it really he said yeah but our job is

481
00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:47.800
not just to pack it but we go out with the installers and we watch how they how

482
00:30:47.800 --> 00:30:50.960
they unpack what we packed and we realized we had them all back there to

483
00:30:50.960 --> 00:30:55.320
unpack everything to find all the parts but if we pack them in a certain way now

484
00:30:55.320 --> 00:30:59.440
we've reduced those costs by 30% see there's somebody who gets the point so

485
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:04.000
the question is does everybody in your team know that does everybody in your

486
00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:08.400
team know how they're contributing to the bottom line and the fastest way I

487
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:13.320
know to do that is figure out the big dial what is the big dial and if we

488
00:31:13.320 --> 00:31:19.240
manage that one thing by the way there's a whole second part to this which we

489
00:31:19.240 --> 00:31:24.800
only have time to get into today but it's also a key way of how you can do a

490
00:31:24.800 --> 00:31:29.920
whole lot less in your business using what Dan Mattel calls the 1080 10 rule

491
00:31:29.920 --> 00:31:36.640
does anybody know that 1080 10 rule so the 1080 10 rule is that 80% of the work

492
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:41.000
is done by your team but the first 10% is you doing the design you know I've

493
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:44.000
just recently done that for brilliant we've just put an 18 month plan together

494
00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:48.320
we worked through all that you do the design then you let your team go and work

495
00:31:48.320 --> 00:31:53.040
and then the last 10% is when you do the refinement the QA you go that's where

496
00:31:53.040 --> 00:31:56.400
your taste comes in I don't like that kind of thing I don't like that wording

497
00:31:56.400 --> 00:32:01.080
we don't say that we don't do this you know whatever you're adding your your

498
00:32:01.080 --> 00:32:04.720
unique touch to it at the end so you touch it in the beginning you set it up

499
00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:08.920
you can set the vision the team executes you come back and polish it up that's the

500
00:32:08.920 --> 00:32:13.800
way by the way you free up 80% of your time you can you can thank Dan

501
00:32:13.800 --> 00:32:21.800
Mattel for that for that for that little treasure trove so whatever it is you're

502
00:32:21.800 --> 00:32:29.600
managing you know if you look at if you look at your business it's a great like

503
00:32:29.600 --> 00:32:33.960
we do you know we did immersion at the inner circle as in time of worshipping

504
00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:38.720
waiting on the Lord in a in a life stuff but you can do exactly the same thing

505
00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:44.360
for the downstairs business stuff that's why we learn that in a life skill so we

506
00:32:44.360 --> 00:32:47.600
can do it with the Lord externally so Lord how do you see this business how do

507
00:32:47.600 --> 00:32:53.520
you see this product how does this fit in and while the Lord may or may not

508
00:32:53.520 --> 00:32:58.320
just speak to directly and say it he often will lead you through a process in

509
00:32:58.320 --> 00:33:02.800
which you discover it right and then you discover you know the reason we're

510
00:33:02.800 --> 00:33:07.800
running a second brilliance event in October is because the Lord reminded me

511
00:33:07.800 --> 00:33:12.360
that was the original plan that we came up with years ago but then due to

512
00:33:12.360 --> 00:33:17.480
various things we just got sidetracked never got to it and so I was thinking

513
00:33:17.480 --> 00:33:21.880
okay and so what I did is I took all our products and I put them in the four

514
00:33:21.880 --> 00:33:27.320
squares and where's the thing where are we seeing the most transformation and

515
00:33:27.320 --> 00:33:33.200
where are we receiving the most dollars now who would plot transformation

516
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:38.760
against dollars just saying but that's the kind of innovative kingdom thinking

517
00:33:38.760 --> 00:33:43.280
we've got to get past all the nervous oh it's about money that's the evil side

518
00:33:43.360 --> 00:33:48.400
and then I know you guys don't think that so for to me it all of life is holy

519
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:52.720
exception and Jesus died with that so I've got a great life so here's the

520
00:33:52.720 --> 00:33:56.500
thing where we are is what how do you see the business how to get that one big

521
00:33:56.500 --> 00:34:02.040
deal so let's talk about some steps I put together to help you think this

522
00:34:02.040 --> 00:34:06.960
through they're not they see steps they might be little exercises that will help

523
00:34:07.080 --> 00:34:14.159
you work on the business and get out from being in it firstly I like to ask

524
00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:21.360
the Lord when he wants to do this and because it's my habit every week to say

525
00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:25.480
so so father what are we working on this week you know sometimes I'll ask by the

526
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:29.679
day but often hours by the week because weeks a nice chunk of time to get

527
00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:37.880
something done and and so the so about eight weeks ago I asked the Lord we're

528
00:34:37.880 --> 00:34:42.719
doing the Lord says we're rethinking the business and I just knew my I got

529
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:47.040
excited I knew my heart this was gonna be great and I had no idea what I was

530
00:34:47.040 --> 00:34:51.480
gonna do next and how to do that but I knew he I said Lord you know the Holy

531
00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:55.120
Spirit is an absolute genius but I found that when I don't ask I don't get and

532
00:34:55.120 --> 00:34:58.280
Jesus said you don't have because you don't know so ask ask every little

533
00:34:58.280 --> 00:35:02.400
detail ask ask ask ask

534
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:01.040
What does this number mean?

535
00:35:01.040 --> 00:35:02.360
How do you want me to look at this?

536
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:04.200
Are there valuations I need to do?

537
00:35:04.200 --> 00:35:07.000
So step one is I think of it from the buyer's perspective.

538
00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:08.760
OK, I'm selling it one day.

539
00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:09.640
What's it worth?

540
00:35:09.640 --> 00:35:11.240
We've been through that exercise.

541
00:35:11.240 --> 00:35:12.840
How can I create equity?

542
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:13.920
Why?

543
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:16.520
Because you don't get wealthy from cash flow only.

544
00:35:16.520 --> 00:35:19.040
The fastest way to get wealthy is through equity.

545
00:35:19.040 --> 00:35:20.960
Equity building is your fastest way.

546
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:22.960
So if I'm going to sell that and I'm

547
00:35:22.960 --> 00:35:25.600
going to somehow monetize that equity at some point

548
00:35:25.600 --> 00:35:29.280
in the future or portion of it, I

549
00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:32.920
have to focus on what's building equity in the business.

550
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:36.520
Number two, look at the value chain, right?

551
00:35:36.520 --> 00:35:39.880
So here's what it cost me to get a customer.

552
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:42.600
Here's what it cost me to deliver that customer.

553
00:35:42.600 --> 00:35:44.840
Here was the effort involved.

554
00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:48.200
And now I can put those into a four square

555
00:35:48.200 --> 00:35:50.640
and decide which customers so that I can get rid

556
00:35:50.640 --> 00:35:52.360
of all the fours straight away.

557
00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:56.200
You know, the high effort, low profitable.

558
00:35:56.200 --> 00:35:58.800
Get rid of that business as fast as you can.

559
00:35:58.800 --> 00:36:00.960
When I was doing consulting, I would literally

560
00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:03.800
do the exercise in the morning and then spend the afternoon

561
00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:09.120
on a speakerphone with the CEO cancelling all the fours

562
00:36:09.120 --> 00:36:10.800
that same day.

563
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:13.680
And they would just, you could see the fear in their faces,

564
00:36:13.680 --> 00:36:15.360
you know, we need the cash.

565
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:17.040
And I said, no, what you're doing

566
00:36:17.040 --> 00:36:19.760
is you're tying up your resources on stuff

567
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:21.080
that doesn't produce.

568
00:36:21.080 --> 00:36:24.400
Let's free up all the resources of the organization

569
00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:28.360
to go to the very, very best roses, right?

570
00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.840
You know, and so then the third step

571
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:35.520
is what one might call a constraint test.

572
00:36:35.520 --> 00:36:38.040
Here's the constraint test.

573
00:36:38.040 --> 00:36:44.680
If I can only improve one single aspect of my business by 50%,

574
00:36:44.680 --> 00:36:47.760
which improvement would I make?

575
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:49.160
That will impact the bottom line.

576
00:36:49.160 --> 00:36:52.640
I can only move one thing by 50%.

577
00:36:52.640 --> 00:36:55.160
And then that's got to have a dramatic effect.

578
00:36:55.160 --> 00:36:57.240
This is such a practical thing to do

579
00:36:57.280 --> 00:36:59.800
because a lot of times we get impressions like,

580
00:36:59.800 --> 00:37:02.800
well, if I have more of those, they'll be good.

581
00:37:02.800 --> 00:37:05.040
But then just take that number.

582
00:37:05.040 --> 00:37:06.360
If you like, you can even double it,

583
00:37:06.360 --> 00:37:09.440
double the number and say, did it make a difference?

584
00:37:09.440 --> 00:37:12.320
And you'll be shocked at where the numbers actually are.

585
00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:14.480
This is what we also call black box modeling.

586
00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:16.080
Just get a rough spreadsheet.

587
00:37:16.080 --> 00:37:17.400
You're not trying to model the business

588
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:18.600
and you're not being an accountant

589
00:37:18.600 --> 00:37:20.080
and you're not being an economist.

590
00:37:20.080 --> 00:37:22.760
You're just trying to learn where the numbers go.

591
00:37:22.760 --> 00:37:26.600
Oh, so if I double this number,

592
00:37:26.600 --> 00:37:28.080
then what happens?

593
00:37:28.080 --> 00:37:30.760
If I, and just play with the numbers.

594
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:33.240
And again, asking the Lord to be part of that process

595
00:37:33.240 --> 00:37:37.920
with you, always the obvious big dial

596
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:41.200
makes itself known quickly.

597
00:37:41.200 --> 00:37:44.760
Third exercise is the time investment audit.

598
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:48.000
Here's what I've learned from doing this exercise

599
00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:49.320
for many years.

600
00:37:49.320 --> 00:37:52.920
Track where you spend your time versus what drives revenue.

601
00:37:52.920 --> 00:37:55.400
It's amazing how many times, you know,

602
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:57.800
sometimes our biggest opportunities

603
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:01.280
are things that we're just not giving attention to,

604
00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:02.120
you know?

605
00:38:02.120 --> 00:38:03.080
And you say, well, of course we give,

606
00:38:03.080 --> 00:38:05.680
no, no, really, we do this.

607
00:38:05.680 --> 00:38:07.040
We all do this.

608
00:38:07.040 --> 00:38:08.920
Anybody know what I'm talking about?

609
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:11.360
Yeah, I do this all the time.

610
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:13.720
Where's my biggest, especially me as the leader,

611
00:38:13.720 --> 00:38:15.320
what's, where's my biggest contribution

612
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:16.560
that moves the needle?

613
00:38:16.560 --> 00:38:19.480
Then try to get every team member to do the same.

614
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:23.760
Last exercise is start with a full

615
00:38:23.800 --> 00:38:25.480
customer economics review.

616
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:29.200
Figure out the economics of your different customers.

617
00:38:29.200 --> 00:38:30.240
Again, in the four square,

618
00:38:30.240 --> 00:38:32.520
but this time you're looking for things like

619
00:38:32.520 --> 00:38:34.280
customer acquisition cost.

620
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:37.800
Knowing what it costs to bring a customer in

621
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:39.600
is really, really important.

622
00:38:39.600 --> 00:38:40.880
You've got to know what that is.

623
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:43.120
You say, well, we don't do ads.

624
00:38:43.120 --> 00:38:44.480
You know, we've got a sales team.

625
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:45.560
Well, that's a cost.

626
00:38:46.480 --> 00:38:48.760
How many, how much do you pay each month

627
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:49.600
for your sales team?

628
00:38:49.600 --> 00:38:51.640
And on average, how much business do they,

629
00:38:51.640 --> 00:38:53.840
well, there's your customer acquisition cost,

630
00:38:53.840 --> 00:38:55.720
not docket science.

631
00:38:55.720 --> 00:38:57.200
Average transaction value.

632
00:38:57.200 --> 00:39:01.080
Maybe you sell real estate, you know, or something.

633
00:39:01.080 --> 00:39:03.920
Your frequency, how often can you turn the knob?

634
00:39:03.920 --> 00:39:06.920
How often can you crank the handle on this thing?

635
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:09.120
If you can only crank it once or twice a year,

636
00:39:09.120 --> 00:39:09.960
well, that's a lot harder

637
00:39:09.960 --> 00:39:12.600
than if you can crank it once a week.

638
00:39:12.600 --> 00:39:15.360
So how fast can we crank?

639
00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:17.760
What's the frequency we can drive it at?

640
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:20.080
And then how long are customers with us?

641
00:39:20.080 --> 00:39:22.120
And what's the overall lifetime value?

642
00:39:22.120 --> 00:39:24.200
Is the value all up at the front

643
00:39:24.200 --> 00:39:26.600
and then you've struggled to get them to do anything else?

644
00:39:26.600 --> 00:39:29.240
Or do you build them up into, you know,

645
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.280
is it Flynn, Ray?

646
00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:33.760
Is his name Flynn?

647
00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:37.920
The guy talked about the perimeter fandom.

648
00:39:39.600 --> 00:39:40.720
Do you know him pretty much?

649
00:39:40.720 --> 00:39:41.560
Yeah, Pat Flynn.

650
00:39:41.560 --> 00:39:42.640
Pat Flynn, yeah.

651
00:39:42.640 --> 00:39:44.080
So Pat Flynn, thanks, Jenny.

652
00:39:44.080 --> 00:39:44.920
Pat Flynn.

653
00:39:46.080 --> 00:39:47.680
I found that very compelling

654
00:39:47.720 --> 00:39:50.120
that we spend way too much time

655
00:39:50.120 --> 00:39:52.520
trying to build just the bottom of the funnel

656
00:39:52.520 --> 00:39:55.720
when we should be spending a good amount of our time

657
00:39:55.720 --> 00:39:59.160
on our raving fans, the top of the pyramid.

658
00:39:59.160 --> 00:40:00.000
The big ticket.

659
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.040
of the pyramid is where, and then let it trickle down.

660
00:40:04.040 --> 00:40:05.840
And I think it's one of the big,

661
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:09.000
I don't think it's as simple as just focus

662
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:10.600
on one or the other, but he's talking about

663
00:40:10.600 --> 00:40:13.540
what are you prioritizing, not stop this and do that.

664
00:40:14.720 --> 00:40:17.320
And I know starting with your big ticket item

665
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:19.400
is you wanna get there as fast as you can

666
00:40:19.400 --> 00:40:21.760
because that's typically where your big contribution

667
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:23.000
to the world lies.

668
00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:26.200
And if the quicker you can get there, the better.

669
00:40:26.200 --> 00:40:28.320
Ray, I know you have thoughts on this.

670
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:30.020
So I'm gonna bring you in on it.

671
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:32.960
We've talked a great deal about this

672
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:35.280
and I know you train a lot of teams yourself.

673
00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:38.880
Yeah, for sure.

674
00:40:38.880 --> 00:40:42.320
I think a lot of times we have,

675
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:43.680
I mean, if you're talking about super fans,

676
00:40:43.680 --> 00:40:45.960
a lot of times we have these super fans

677
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:48.520
and we just aren't offering them enough.

678
00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:52.000
We're not making enough offers.

679
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:57.000
And so one of my client from a million years ago,

680
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:00.240
probably almost 20 years ago,

681
00:41:00.240 --> 00:41:04.080
she owned multiple olive oil shops.

682
00:41:04.080 --> 00:41:07.000
And so you would come in, she had all this gourmet olive oil

683
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:08.960
it was amazing.

684
00:41:08.960 --> 00:41:11.840
And you get a little shop glass

685
00:41:11.840 --> 00:41:13.400
and you could try these different oils

686
00:41:13.400 --> 00:41:15.280
with a little bread and everything.

687
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:17.880
And she had certain people that would just come in,

688
00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:19.360
just love the stuff.

689
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:24.280
And I was always encouraging her to offer

690
00:41:24.280 --> 00:41:25.760
what's the next level.

691
00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:29.600
Offer a $30,000 trip to go over and crush some olives.

692
00:41:31.800 --> 00:41:34.200
There are people that want to experience

693
00:41:34.200 --> 00:41:37.440
at the highest level, give them that opportunity.

694
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:41.760
And I think that a lot of times we don't think about that.

695
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:45.880
We don't think about, what's his name?

696
00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:48.480
Perry Marshall wrote a great book,

697
00:41:48.480 --> 00:41:50.080
The 80-20 Principle,

698
00:41:50.080 --> 00:41:53.000
which everyone kind of understands that principle.

699
00:41:53.040 --> 00:41:55.480
But he says 80% of your income

700
00:41:55.480 --> 00:41:57.720
will come from 20% of your customers.

701
00:41:57.720 --> 00:41:59.280
And 80% of that income

702
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.320
will come from 20% of those customers.

703
00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:07.320
So there are people that, like in Ben's world,

704
00:42:07.400 --> 00:42:09.440
there may be some collaboration

705
00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:12.240
with certain commercial guys that,

706
00:42:12.240 --> 00:42:15.680
if only that right there was tighter,

707
00:42:15.680 --> 00:42:17.520
that would be $100 million.

708
00:42:17.520 --> 00:42:22.400
And so it's, how do we navigate?

709
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:27.400
And I've had several clients over the years

710
00:42:27.920 --> 00:42:31.600
that just love my stuff and love my coaching.

711
00:42:31.600 --> 00:42:35.000
And they've dropped over $200,000 to get coached by me.

712
00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:38.080
And then there's other hundreds of thousands of people

713
00:42:38.080 --> 00:42:42.120
on my email list that don't buy anything,

714
00:42:42.120 --> 00:42:45.000
but they see my free stuff and they share it

715
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:46.560
and someone else sees it.

716
00:42:46.560 --> 00:42:50.200
And so just thinking about,

717
00:42:50.200 --> 00:42:52.280
I mean, you made so many great points there.

718
00:42:53.120 --> 00:42:55.280
You could pick any of those and focus.

719
00:42:55.280 --> 00:42:57.800
But I like the, how do I take someone

720
00:42:57.800 --> 00:43:00.320
who just really loves what it is that I do

721
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:02.880
or the service that I have or the product,

722
00:43:02.880 --> 00:43:04.560
what kind of collaboration,

723
00:43:04.560 --> 00:43:06.400
what is the next level kind of thing?

724
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:09.600
What's an out-of-the-box way to work with them?

725
00:43:09.600 --> 00:43:12.080
Yeah, and I think part of when,

726
00:43:12.080 --> 00:43:17.040
even when we put our recent Offer CEO Intensive together

727
00:43:17.040 --> 00:43:21.400
was because we saw the need for people to have the help.

728
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:23.280
By the way, I'm just dropping in the chat

729
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:25.120
a whole implementation strategy

730
00:43:25.120 --> 00:43:27.160
because I don't think we're gonna have time to go through it

731
00:43:27.160 --> 00:43:28.920
if you just wanna copy and paste that.

732
00:43:28.920 --> 00:43:31.000
But basically, here's what you need to do.

733
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:35.200
Identify, week one, see if you can identify the big dial.

734
00:43:35.200 --> 00:43:36.640
Two, create a tracking system.

735
00:43:36.640 --> 00:43:40.560
Let people, let your team see the scoreboard of the game.

736
00:43:40.560 --> 00:43:43.080
And then establish baseline metrics.

737
00:43:43.080 --> 00:43:48.080
Like, okay, we're starting at $28 per revenue per customer.

738
00:43:48.920 --> 00:43:50.840
And then set a 90-day target.

739
00:43:50.840 --> 00:43:53.920
We want that $28 to be $40.

740
00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:56.080
Then get team alignment.

741
00:43:56.080 --> 00:43:57.480
Talk it through with the team

742
00:43:57.480 --> 00:43:59.760
and then help each person understand

743
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:02.120
how they're gonna contribute to that one metric.

744
00:44:02.120 --> 00:44:03.200
Now, what you've suddenly,

745
00:44:03.200 --> 00:44:05.000
you're focusing all the resource

746
00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:07.120
on the thing that moves the needle.

747
00:44:07.120 --> 00:44:09.880
Then if you have to even adjust incentives,

748
00:44:09.880 --> 00:44:11.520
if you like, recognition,

749
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:17.120
Sunso made, we do a Tuesday triumph thing

750
00:44:17.120 --> 00:44:19.520
where we call out to each other on who's contributing.

751
00:44:19.520 --> 00:44:22.120
But we could even take that up a notch in our team

752
00:44:22.120 --> 00:44:24.200
and do it specifically how it's contributing

753
00:44:24.200 --> 00:44:26.600
to this, to the main thing.

754
00:44:26.600 --> 00:44:28.280
And then the hard one,

755
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:31.160
eliminate competing metrics and priorities.

756
00:44:32.560 --> 00:44:33.720
Shoot those in the head.

757
00:44:33.720 --> 00:44:35.880
We don't need to do those.

758
00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:38.240
Back to trimming the bush.

759
00:44:38.240 --> 00:44:40.400
What's dead and needs to go?

760
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:43.720
You know, what's weak and not getting better?

761
00:44:43.720 --> 00:44:45.600
What's good but not great?

762
00:44:45.600 --> 00:44:47.520
And then we get to the 20%,

763
00:44:47.520 --> 00:44:49.680
where the 80% of the life is.

764
00:44:49.680 --> 00:44:52.200
Your implementation strategies,

765
00:44:52.200 --> 00:44:54.280
what we wanna do is we wanna focus on,

766
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:58.120
I would suggest at least weekly progress updates

767
00:44:58.120 --> 00:44:59.400
and publish it somewhere,

768
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:00.240
put it somewhere.

769
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.440
everyone can see it or on an app or send a text, whatever it is, make sure everybody knows what

770
00:45:05.440 --> 00:45:10.720
that number is and let them see the progress. It'd be great if we can see the the movement

771
00:45:10.720 --> 00:45:15.280
up or down, by the way, even the negative thing can be healthy because, hey, what did we do wrong?

772
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:19.600
What did we where did we misstep? So it doesn't have to be just, you know, onwards and upwards.

773
00:45:19.600 --> 00:45:26.480
But I mean, the quarterly review, you know, is this still our big thing? And when you dial this

774
00:45:27.040 --> 00:45:31.760
I think this is like the number one problem I see in businesses. And so I thought, well,

775
00:45:31.760 --> 00:45:36.800
let me just share a couple of mistakes I've seen made. So here's a couple of again,

776
00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:40.400
because I'm running out of time, I'm just going to drop it here in the chat for you. But

777
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:44.720
here are a couple of the mistakes I've seen made. You know, try to focus on three to five

778
00:45:44.720 --> 00:45:51.280
critical metrics. Guys, there's one. If you've got three to five, you haven't finished working,

779
00:45:51.280 --> 00:45:56.080
you're still you're still figuring it out. So that's my rule for me. What's the one thing?

780
00:45:56.080 --> 00:46:01.360
Now, what you might find if you have different divisions in the business that that may look a

781
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:06.320
little different, but you have to choose one. Everything else is secondary. And it's OK to

782
00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:12.480
have such secondary metrics as long as everybody knows they're secondary. And the mistake number,

783
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:17.440
you know, look at short term focus, you know, optimizing for this month or just this quarter.

784
00:46:17.440 --> 00:46:22.320
But we're not building for the long haul. What's going to build equity? I'm going to sell it in

785
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:26.880
five years. That's why I give the five year horizon to get your mind off the short term

786
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:31.600
problem in the cash flow. And I have payroll on Thursday. We know the feeling. I'm just saying

787
00:46:31.600 --> 00:46:38.400
that we will we'll go through that all the time. But I would say ignoring the team alignment,

788
00:46:38.400 --> 00:46:44.240
it's really important that the whole team know. But probably from a kingdom viewpoint, by far,

789
00:46:44.240 --> 00:46:50.960
the biggest mistake of all is not knowing that you're doing this in yoke. You're not on your own.

790
00:46:51.680 --> 00:46:58.320
He said, I will be with you. I'll go with you. I'll help you. Moses said, Lord, if your presence

791
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:03.840
doesn't go with us, I'm not going. Right. And that's what it is. Not that his presence isn't

792
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:08.480
with us, but he was Moses in the Old Testament where his presence did come and go, depending

793
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:14.160
on their behavior. You're one with Christ. You have a far greater kingdom advantage.

794
00:47:14.160 --> 00:47:18.640
So maybe for some of us business wise, time to move out of the shack and into the mansion

795
00:47:19.040 --> 00:47:26.160
and say, Lord, what do you what do you got for me? What is this that, you know, I want to just

796
00:47:26.160 --> 00:47:31.920
not only have fun doing it, but I want to take it to the scale level where it makes a difference,

797
00:47:31.920 --> 00:47:36.960
where we're moving the needle, not just for our business, but for our community, for our people,

798
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:41.440
for our industry. You know, I want the kingdom to have this level of influence.

799
00:47:42.400 --> 00:47:49.520
Well, there are a couple of amazing things if you pull this off. Right. So clarity emerges.

800
00:47:49.520 --> 00:47:54.400
That's huge. Everybody now every decision is now balanced against that one thing.

801
00:47:55.040 --> 00:47:58.800
Growth accelerates because it's focused. No one's pulling in the same direction,

802
00:47:58.800 --> 00:48:02.400
especially when you feel like that's come straight out of your yoke. If you and Jesus

803
00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:06.560
are pulling in that direction and your team joins, you've got something good going on.

804
00:48:07.520 --> 00:48:11.920
Of course, team performance improves because they know what the priority is and they're all

805
00:48:11.920 --> 00:48:16.160
pulling in the same direction. Your business value is going to increase because you're focusing on

806
00:48:16.160 --> 00:48:22.160
the core building of equity, not just cash flow. And of course, your personal freedom grows,

807
00:48:22.160 --> 00:48:27.200
especially if you're going to use the ten eighty ten to do the ten eighty ten thing.

808
00:48:27.200 --> 00:48:30.880
You've got to start with what's the big thing, because how are you going to manage it remotely

809
00:48:31.520 --> 00:48:33.840
if you don't know if the one big number is moving or not?

810
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:38.560
If you had access to that one big thing, you could spend your time and other things

811
00:48:38.560 --> 00:48:43.280
and just come back in and look at the dial. Is the dial moving? Is it good? And by the way,

812
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:49.120
definitely decreases stress and conflict and confusion because everybody knows what we're

813
00:48:49.120 --> 00:49:07.840
trying to do. Cool. Well, since you like the summaries, I'll drop the transformation promise.

814
00:49:11.760 --> 00:49:14.000
Here's the deal, guys. The Lord, by nature,

815
00:49:14.960 --> 00:49:20.720
is into transformation and he wants to be part of yours in your business and how your business

816
00:49:20.720 --> 00:49:25.200
will transform the lives of the people who work in your company, whether they know him or not,

817
00:49:25.200 --> 00:49:29.040
and then your community and maybe even your industry, maybe even the country.

818
00:49:29.040 --> 00:49:33.680
Who knows how far this goes? So I hope that was helpful.
