There should be a more
All right you guys it's a
September 15th, and we have all these amazing gentlemen here, and this is Mike leading
Yeah, hey guys. How are you all doing I?
Kind of wanted to chat about oh
You know I don't have my video on there we go
I kind of wanted to chat and see how everybody was doing this week
I know there was a lot going on last week and to see where everybody's heart was at
So I know for me. It was a really heavy week kind of a rough week
But I'd be open to hearing wins too, so anybody got some wins from last week
No wins
The market is up. That's a good one. Well. That's a good one
That is a win a couple wins, I had a good win on Oracle, but that was nice
I
Think for me um I started dating again, so that's scary, but
Yeah, so I did two zoom dates in a week
And I've got a date coming this weekend
So we're gonna go apple-picking it's somebody from the community they found me after my spotlight and
She just said she's like I didn't bother with putting up my pictures and all the information because she's like they don't do anything anyway
So I just thought I'd find you
And
She was like yeah, I think Jackie's taking a break, so she's like I don't think they're really doing the spotlight
So she's like I didn't put the effort in but she's like I knew I could just find you so I
Actually had three people say that to me they were like I didn't fill it out because I knew that they wouldn't do anything so
yeah, I have three dates and
One girl was funny. She's from Chicago, but she said you know what like she's like
I would move to Canada and become a Canadian citizen for you, and I was like well
Wait, but great, okay
Me and I said okay
Well, that's amazing
So yeah, so I might be having a date soon too cuz David knows about it
But I'm working on it
It's a friend of David's, but I don't know if you see her that often or not David
Do you ever see her locally in person?
Much or no no no, but that she lived near you so you could ever see her in person
Like once a month, maybe or something
Yeah, I got parties. I see her. I see her every couple months
She was my boss years ago, but I gotta yeah leave it with me
Yeah, I'm not trying to rush you it's just that's my burning question
I got answered and the other question that I sent that you didn't check the email is that you live in
You personally live in Kingston, and I didn't know what she lives near there or not
So she you don't have to tell me where she's at, but no no if you don't want you
I don't mind so she owns property in Kingston
That's why she's here every once in a while. She has a couple properties here
She's a in real estate, so she has a couple properties
And then she has a property in Toronto and then a property near Ottawa so and then she is like works
travels in between like Ottawa and Toronto so
So that's about a three-hour distance in three or four hours and can and geography so
Yeah, yeah, I can relate to that because I grew up in New York State had to go to between Buffalo and Utica a lot
That's about the same amount
So I hear
Both are gonna be going on dates is that what I'm understanding then
Well that's great
You got some
Yeah
Is she
Is he is he garbled for anybody other than me he's single never married
She's divorced but divorced like 12 years ago
Okay, there's no kids from that marriage
No, no kids. Yeah, so she was one of those quick ones where I think they were like, you know married at 20
Divorce by 23
Mm-hmm. It was an infidelity thing
I think the guy had like she found out that there was four or five other people on on the on the go kind of
thing
And then they gave it a second chance and a third chance and a fourth chance, but then
there kept being other women.
And so by chance number like seven, she was like, Hey, I got to figure this out.
So.
All right.
So let's, let's, let's wrap this up and go to, let's switch to something a little different.
So what's cool.
I mean, you guys can talk about this offline.
We don't need to know all this stuff, but like, you know sorry guys.
So any other, any other, John, how are you doing?
How is, how is a, you're, you're up by the bay, right?
Yeah.
Brentwood.
That's right.
I didn't think of it.
I'm like, you know, yeah.
Somewhere.
It's discovery.
Is that discovery bay right there?
Yeah.
Like it's like a 15 minutes away.
Yeah.
It's a great day.
Any, any, any exciting news on your block?
Yeah.
I've been going to some meetups and stuff and, and that, that's fine.
Went with my friend, we went to concert out in Concord on Thursday night, saw a doors
cover band.
That was fun.
Oh, that sounds like fun.
Yeah.
It's like the end of the summer concert seasons and all.
It is.
Yeah.
There's a lot, there's a lot of things wrapping up.
Huh?
Yeah.
So did that.
And next weekend on Saturday, I'm going on a boat cruise out in the Delta.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
Cause you're not that far away.
Huh?
Yeah.
No, it's like 10 minutes.
That's funny.
Cause I'm like the Delta is so far away, but I'm like, Oh, I like what you live up there.
You live next to it.
Right.
Yeah.
From San Jose.
It's probably an hour.
It's about an hour and a half.
Cause I used to live off Monterey and blossom and I used to, my kids were in Brentwood and
it would take me about an hour each way.
All right.
So it's not bad.
What about you, Mr. Tim?
How has your week been?
Not much has happened.
I think you got me in it, Martin.
I love this setup.
So Tim, are you, are you, did you say something, Tim?
I didn't really hear it.
I was just checking in.
I said not much has happened.
Oh, okay.
Cool.
Sorry.
I didn't hear that.
So how are you all doing after the events of last week?
Is everybody okay?
I know.
I don't know if everybody has a support system or last week was a pretty intense week for,
for me personally.
And I just wanted to, if you guys are, if we got, just wanted to chat about or not chat
about it, but if you guys need to process or like just, because one of the thoughts
I had about talking tonight is, especially after last week is, you know, living a life
that leaves a legacy.
You know, I mean, I remember being in Men's Fraternity and they're like, they, we had
to write, it was super amazing.
They're like, here, here's a headstone.
What do you want written on it?
Right.
And then, and at the end it was like, okay, so, you know, that's what you want written
on it.
How are you going to get there?
Right.
And so, so I don't know.
How are you guys doing with that?
Anybody want to share?
Is everybody doing okay?
Anybody struggling?
Yeah, I, I, I'm still in this place where like, cause I'm still pretty new.
And so like, I don't feel like I'm fluctuating, like in between, in and out of the heartwork,
like just a lot of unforgiveness and like, I, I literally had to take a break from social
media for the week because it just was too much like, and, and yeah, so I just took a
break.
And even today I had to do a lot of like, you know, the forgiveness sheets and just
working through a lot of stuff too.
And yeah.
And, and, and it's, and you guys, you know, it's okay to take a break.
I mean, a lot of this stuff is really intense, right?
Like, you know, when you're, when you're dealing with unforgiveness and like looking at things
and letting things go and just even processing all that, I mean, it's exhausting.
So it's, it's good to get, have times of a break where you can actually like breathe
for a minute.
Right.
So, so yeah, so, so, but, but you took, you took kind of a break, but you're doing, you're
kind of, are you settling in or you're just still in process?
Yeah, I think I'm settling in.
I'm, I'm just, you know, my anchor is set.
And so what has been really cool is that.
I've had a lot of friends and family just say,
whoa, you are different.
Your answers are way shorter now.
And they're like, they're way more concise.
They're like, we can have a conversation with you
and you can talk about more than one topic for half an hour.
So that's been kind of fun.
And I think that's due to a lot to the heart work.
And yeah, I recently asked them to add the,
is it the Love Accelerator?
Is that what it's called?
This sounds familiar.
Yeah, it's the women's thing
because there were so many terms
and even on both of my Zoom dates,
I didn't understand any of the things
that they were talking about.
Like they were talking about it,
like, oh, like I should know what these terms are.
And I had no idea.
So like what terms?
You remember any of the terms?
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So like things like they were talking about
some of the boundaries things
and like, oh, Zoom dates should only be like half an hour.
And-
And very light.
Very light and like, yeah, like,
sorry, I'm trying to think, but like-
Not to go too, not to go too deep, too soon.
Not to go too heavy.
And it's a little awkward
when the person has already heard all of your answers
from the spotlight, right?
Like they already know.
Yeah, and then one person,
she did a little research on me after my spotlight,
like from my Facebook.
And I was like, oh, you know a lot.
And she was like, hey, but like,
she's like, remember Jackie, don't write me off.
Wow.
If it's not a yes, it's not a no.
It's a yes, so it's a no.
She's like, if it's not a no, it's a yes or whatever.
And I was like, oh, okay, well, I guess she's like,
I know I did a lot of research and I know I crossed the line
but like, don't write me off yet.
And I was like, okay, well.
Well, I mean, how do they make, but like, okay.
Can we talk about that for a minute?
So-
I would love to.
How does it feel?
Okay, so you guys, how does it feel?
How did that make you feel?
I mean, were you okay with it?
Is it like, wow, you crossed boundaries
or like, where are you at with that?
Like her scoping you out, did you feel honored?
I did not feel honored, no.
Okay.
I felt a little scared and I feel violated a little bit.
But I just said, you know what?
I need to let that go.
Cause we're trying to, you know,
like everybody's got yellow flags and just let that go.
And yeah, and one thing I learned, I think,
is that like a big problem I've had is that,
and all my friends confirm this,
is that when I pray with people who I've dated,
I, and I don't know how else to put this,
but basically what a friend of mine said,
she said, you have these weird reactions with people
where after two or three months,
they're convinced from God
that you are the one that they're supposed to marry.
And they're like, and that scares the crap out of you.
And my friend said-
Well, I mean, that would be a little unnerving
unless the Lord's telling you the same thing, right?
Like, I mean, a lot of people would say,
no, I mean, like seriously,
it's like, you know,
Hey, the Lord told me I'm going to marry you.
And I'm like, well, he hasn't told me yet,
but when he does, we'll work that out.
You know, like, you know, but-
That's, that's often my line,
but it's happened to me about 20 times in my life.
Yeah.
And I think a lot of it has to do
with me praying too early.
Yeah. Like, like praying.
Okay. So like bringing,
that's, you remember like keeping it light
and making it like fun
and not getting serious?
Prayer brings a whole nother dynamic into the, to the thing.
I mean, you can say like something you'd say over the table,
like, you know, Jesus, thank you for the food,
yada, yada, yada.
But, but like getting,
prayer is really intimate and it breeds a,
a connection and an intimate, like the intimacy.
It takes the intimacy level and jacks it straight up.
And early on, you shouldn't be doing that stuff, right?
You should just be getting to know
and kind of seeing, do I like this person, right?
You know, and by praying like that,
you're actually creating an intimacy
that's not equal to your relationship.
Does that make sense?
Yeah. And so one of the things that
I've just struggled with is that like,
because I, I pray on the Sunday nights, right?
Candy, Sunday night prayer.
Yeah.
And some of the women were like,
they were like, oh, I love when you pray.
I just feel this like spiritual connection to you.
And I'm like, I'm like, okay.
But I'm, but I'm, and I just said it.
I said, hey, you know what?
Like I said to the one person, I said like,
right now we're just getting to know each other
and we're having fun.
Let's just keep having fun.
Yeah.
That's a great, great.
So like.
Yeah.
And that happened twice.
The other girl was like, oh, like, would you pray?
Like, both asked me to pray.
And I said, hey, you know what, right now, let's just keep it light.
And then I said, you know, let's focus on just getting to know each other.
And I said, I, I, yeah.
Great job.
No, I mean, that's great boundaries.
Right.
You know, and that'll keep you from going too deep.
I mean, like developing that, that false deep intimacy really quickly, right.
So great job, kudos.
So anybody else's thoughts on that?
Like, what are you guys thinking?
Anybody want to chime in?
Tom, you don't, you don't pray or kiss on the first date.
Yeah, well, and, and ladies are really susceptible, I guess, like, you know, that's, that's,
that's something that they're really looking for as a spiritual leader.
And then they're like, oh, they, you know, and so, yeah, no, and I have to be careful
with that, too, because, you know, I'm super gregarious and, you know, and then all of
a sudden, I'm like, whoa, the they're like, hi, how are you?
And I'm like, well, time out, you know, like, you know, like, I'm just being friendly.
Not I'm not into that.
Yeah. So so and it's just stirring their hearts well, too.
And yours.
So David, that's a great, so I can, I can see exactly why you would feel violated.
And I just, I just wanted to see how you were doing in that.
I think you're doing a great job in stewarding that and saying, hey, time out, yo, light
and happy, you know, like, you know, we're not getting married after this first video
15 minute video date, you know, like, you know, in a second, you know.
And you know what, actually, so once I kind of did that, the person she backed up a bit
and she was like, well, my bad.
And so then we scheduled one for for tomorrow, another video date.
And that's a great sign.
So so here's the thing is it's not like you got and this goes both ways, right?
If you if you miss.
Right. And they say, hey, you know, time out, back off.
Right. And you honor that.
You know, it's not about whether you mess up or not.
It's how you how you what you do with it.
Now, you own it and you back off, that shows that you're somebody that's trustworthy.
Right. So, I mean, that's a good sign.
You know, if they keep coming, that's a jack sign, you know, get out, get out, run, run
for the hills. Right.
So you have one for tomorrow night.
That's cool. Yeah.
And this person, she just admitted that she said, you know what?
It's been like she said, like, to be honest, it's been a couple of years since I've even
had a video date. So she's like, I was just really excited.
So I said, that's OK.
Like, and that's fair.
Right. I get super excited, you know, and I I have to say, Mike, chill, Mike, chill,
Mike, chill, right, because I'm like, hello, you know, I got I got all this repressed
energy from, you know, whatever.
But yeah, well, and that's good that she knows.
I mean, that's also like, you know, I'm just I'm just kind of that she knows herself and
she expressed that. Right.
You know, like self-awareness is a big deal.
Right. And usually women are much more self-aware than we are.
But like, you know, that's a good sign as well.
Yeah. And I apologize for taking up all the time.
I'm not trying to steal it all. The other thing she said, too, is that I actually didn't
realize this person was in their 40s because when her picture I thought she was 25 and
I was like, oh, they might be a bit young for me.
Yeah. Their picture, they looked like 25.
And then she said, oh, I'm 42.
And I said, oh, thank goodness.
And she laughed and she said, oh, I thought I was too old for you.
And I was like, no, I thought you were like in your like early 20s.
And I was like, well, I mean, you're really the day people in their 50s.
So 42 is young.
Right. I'm sorry. I just got to I got to play.
Yeah, you're not wrong.
Also, I love the mustache.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
So but so.
OK, so that's that's good stuff.
Right. Sounds like a good point.
I mean, just enjoy the ride, you know, and and proceed
with honor and I mean, it sounds like you are you're doing a great job.
Anybody else got anything that they that they're going through
that they want to talk about or kind of
Abram, that Abram shared a video with me.
It's not really appropriate, but it did explain why women love horror.
And it was pretty funny.
But I just I got to give you that props.
That was pretty funny, Abram.
How are you doing?
Oh. All right, maybe he's not around.
Are you there, Abram?
Where do we go? All right.
So. So anybody else have anything before?
We jump into something.
I'm curious, because you guys I signed up for that Facebook group.
Which face.
I think it's the messenger.
The 1822 men's monthly group.
Yeah, I think that was it. Yeah.
You're not already in it.
No, put me on the waitlist. I don't know if I got on there or not.
Is anybody else in that group?
Well, there's the 1822 challenge, but there's no, no, the monthly men's group.
It's monthly men's group.
1820 men's group.
Yeah.
Yeah. I think I put a thing in there and I said, your, your thing is, so you just,
they just need to let you in.
Okay. I guess that was, that was like, I think two times ago.
I knew, I know.
Who's the minister?
I know Renee was going to chat with Jackie about that stuff.
So hopefully she has that combo.
That's cool.
All right.
Yeah, cause I, and I was added right away, so I just sent an email to the admin.
Oh, you sent an email.
Okay. I just went, I went on the group admin at Jackie doorman.com.
Yeah.
And when I wrote the admin, I said, Hey, can I get added to the Facebook chat
group and the private paid, the paid men's group that I was added within like
an hour.
Yeah. Yeah.
So the admins are usually who get, who get her done.
Right.
Yeah.
All right.
And it's called what?
The monthly group?
1822 men's monthly group.
Yeah.
1822.
Okay.
All right.
Um, so we got, so Abram, you're back on.
Can we hear you yet?
Can you hear me now?
Hello?
Hello.
Can you hear me?
There you go, dude.
What's up, bro?
Good to see you.
What's up, dude.
I'm over here having to restart stuff.
Yeah.
I've had to do that today too.
I came up with a new setup to like really help out and it just bombed.
I'm like, okay, well, we'll go back to old school.
But, uh, so how are you?
I'm doing good.
I'm kind of slow on the restaurant biz right now for the next week or two.
And then the last quarter is always crazy, crazy.
Cause you know, holidays and everyone prefers to eat a bunch of hot food,
a hot food when it's cold outside, you know, compared to when it's like
over here in Fresno, it's like 110, 100 degrees, 98 for months and months.
You know, it's kind of harder to people want to eat a bunch of hot food.
So yeah, they'd be a busy times are coming.
So looking forward to it.
Um, what about your pizza biz?
Is there anything new on that?
I'm just saving my money.
Um, I'm trying to figure out some ways to, you know, monetize it.
Yeah.
Kind of like, uh, get a bag of gold coins.
You could say, um, I'm considering doing like a Heelock and it's kind of squirming
a little bit cause I have a bunch of equity and I can't sell my house cause I'm at 3%.
And you know, my children probably won't see that percentage rate.
So I feel like, uh, you know, I can't really sell unless I could pay
something else off and then be okay.
So I'm kind of happily content, but I have all this equity.
I should do something with it.
So yeah, that's kind of my, uh, maybe a solution because I need, I need about 30
G's.
Um, yeah, that's how my mom started her, her trailer.
She bought it.
I mean, she needed, she needed a hundred G's.
Yeah.
So mine's a kind of basic and, you know, and just, I just need to, I'm kind of
looking at like a, like a farmer would.
You know, I don't need to buy a new tractor.
I need to buy an old tractor that's reliable and start farming and start
making some money and then you could upgrade as you go, you know, you don't
buy this massive brand new pizza oven, you know, so any who that's kind of my
thing.
Um, you know, I'm not trying to get political, but I've been
processing the Charlie Kirk thing.
Um, a lot of reflection on that.
You guys probably know, you know, I'm a little bit more involved in that
stuff just cause I'm bored and sometimes my tribalism takes over and, you know,
I'm waiting for the, you know, the next crusades kind of a deal.
So, um, you know,
but how are you doing with that?
I know it wrecked me.
So, um,
well, you know, I've kind of, I'm 40 now and I've been, I've been paying
attention for probably like 10 years.
Sounds like 30.
There's a lot of, there's a lot of stupid bullshit, but, um, it's just wild
to me, like the, like people are, um, people have lost their moral compasses.
I'm trying to just justify any of this stuff.
That's just kind of a.
I think everybody in here is like, that's like, you guys are just, you know, so that's
very sad to see, um, you know, when we're supposed to pray for those people, you know?
Yeah.
Um, but, uh, also me, I'm, you know, I get a little, I get a little bit more angry about
things, you know, and I'm a big justice guy.
Yeah.
Um, like, um, like if me and you were coworkers, you know, I would do everything in my power
to keep things fair, you know, and if like I, if I offended you or something or something
wasn't fair, I felt like you got irked a little bit, you know, pull you to the side,
have a conversation, iron it out, you know, get along, make things right.
Um, nothing's going to make this right.
So there's really no justice.
But, um, it's funny how people like deflect to gun control, um, you know, he, he, he got
a victim blaming.
Um, I mean, this is like, this is just, to me, it's just, it's insanity.
It's insanity.
It's, it's kind of low IQ stuff.
I get it.
Like just, this is not a gun control issue at the time.
Um, and, uh, the victim blaming thing, like he had it come and that's like saying a girl
walking out with a short skirt, you know, uh, deserve to get raped.
I mean, give me a break here.
So I don't know.
It's a little frustrating, but, um, I felt like what happened to Charlie Kirk was no
different than Dr. King.
Exactly.
I mean, they're, I mean, they're all killing these people cause they don't like what they
say in the country.
Our country's founded on that stuff.
Yeah.
And it's not the first time to this happened.
Look at the twenties with, with the cute, the Ku Klux Klan was at its prime.
And, and I'm looking at the transgender and LGBTQ, they're no different.
They're basically the same.
The only thing that's different is public acceptance.
Yeah.
What's crazy is like, I thought, um, you know, I've been listening to a few things.
So, you know, if, if I, if we all were convinced, right, that Charlie Kirk was a super bad guy,
let's just pretend K. Well, one of us shooting that guy, you know, that would be a good thing.
Right.
In our eyes.
Right.
You know, like if we could somehow take out, you know, the Hitler before whatever, or the
Mao of China or, you know, Genghis Khan guys, whatever, you know, these, you know, right.
Bolsheviks.
I mean, if we could stop this stuff, technically we'd be kind of like heroes.
So if you give, if you radicalize enough people to convince them that Charlie Kirk was like
some radical guy, which really, to be honest, he was like the Christian conservative starter
kit.
Yeah.
He was nice, dude.
He was not extreme.
And his views were very palatable, very even keel, super, super like tolerant.
He had so much tolerance, so much grace for all his people that, you know, he had to argue
with and coming at him constantly.
Dude, that guy is nothing if you ask me.
And they took him out.
I say everybody just needs to be like the Pope, glass up, get a microphone, don't even
give anyone a chance, you know, because security is not cutting it now.
The local police are not cutting it.
People don't have the money to have, you know, little drones flying around while they're
talking to people constantly, you know, hire ex snipers like just glass up, you know, get
the glass in front of you, sit in your box, be safe.
No more chances with these psychos.
Let's look at that.
So because that was something where because I've thought because I'm always out in the
in arms way, per se.
Right.
And so it kind of rattled me.
But you know, I just come to the fact is God is my defender.
Right.
Like, you know, and I mean, and like a martyr, that's redemption.
And so and that was kind of what I, you know, you guys like, like, God is our defender.
He's our covering.
I mean, if he tells you not to do something, you darn well better not to do it.
Right.
But like, you know, people because I'm called to Eastern Europe and I'm planning on going
to Ukraine.
Right.
And like, that's not a that's not a cupcake place.
Right.
But I know that if I'm in God's under God's covering, I'm covered.
And whether I'm, you know, really, it's absent from the body present with the Lord.
Not that I'm planning on doing anything stupid and getting killed, because I plan on being
around for a long time.
But like, in our core, it's like, Jesus is our foundation.
Right.
He is our protector.
Like, you know, that's it.
I don't need a God.
any other covering, right? I don't need to be afraid of some guy with a hunting rifle
at 200 yards, right? Or however many yards, right? I mean, like, because Charlie's with
the Lord. I mean, now, I mean, it's brutal, right? But like, but really, Jesus is our
refuge. He's our strength. And heaven is our home. Right? So like, yeah, he was fearless.
Well, and we all knew he was definitely fearless. And we should all be too. Yeah.
No, I guess I guess that's kind of what was my thing is like,
what you can't, I think Bill Johnson says, you can't threaten me with heaven.
Right? You know, you can't threaten me with heaven. And like, you guys, we don't we're not
given a spirit of fear. Right. And so I just wanted to encourage you guys, like, you know,
um, don't, don't let something like this intimidate you take away who you are, be who
you are, you're covered, you're covered by Jesus, right? Now, I guess you can be really, I mean,
be smart. There's wisdom, right? You know, like, but in all you know, so I don't know,
what do you got? How are you guys with Jesus? Like, you know, for me, it's like, you know, I,
I know he's got me regardless of what it where I walk in. I mean, you could walk down
the street and get hit by a truck and die. Right? Right. You know, but like,
so what do you guys how does how does that make you feel? Where you guys stand on that?
Well, about the Charlie Kirk are about that. We don't have to be afraid because Jesus is our
and he's our defender. I will say this. We're praying to God to protect us, but someone dies
anyways. Well, there is a saying in terms of safety and protection. And prayer isn't a religious
insurance policy, a bulletproof vest, a bunker or get out of jail free card. The people who
believe that thinks that God must halt the machinations of his natural law at our convenience
every time we wind up in trouble. I mean, I mean, he didn't halt the natural law went
when the nail will pierce the hand and the hammer when the hammer will appear
would hit the hand or foot or John the belay to cleave the head of John the Baptist.
During 9-11 or COVID, the very ones before that, in time of peace, think the business of God,
worship thinking the business of God is to ensure prosperity in American dream.
Out of everyone through adversity, through 9-11 or COVID or the recession leave because they think
the business of God should have been to grant immunity from harm and hardships. So that can be
nothing. So Jesus says in this world, you'll have trials. You have, I know, right? And so, I mean,
so there's, but do you guys feel, I mean, do you guys feel to me, I'm like, you know, I'm not going
to change who I am or what I do. I'm going to be, I'm going to preach the gospel. I'm going to bring
the kingdom regardless of, of what, because, you know, if I end up being in the same place as Charlie
Kirk, great. I'm with Jesus, right? I don't know. I guess I just want to take out the, like, the fear
from this whole thing. It's like, God's got us and whether it's either here or it's in heaven. Does
the martyrs, as I was going to say, the martyrs of old face.
No, there's Fox's book of martyrs. It's a brutal book. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I know that
they, they, they expressed, they prayed like for deliverance, like the savior and the garden. It's
just, it's just, they wouldn't take it at the cost of faith. I'm saying is when we pray for,
don't get me wrong. It's good to pray for safety and others, but I'm just saying,
we shouldn't think of prayer in terms of asking to suspend his natural law or convenience,
or as I said, a religious hocus pocus safety device. No. And that's, and that's true. Like,
you know, we, we don't, don't not pray, but you know, like the trust that Jesus has the plan.
David, you had your hand raised. What did you want to say?
Yeah. So you were talking about like trusting the Lord and Hunter, I think he raised a lot
of great points there about martyrs. And I have a friend, she was recently murdered in Ghana
and she was four foot eight. And she said, I'm not afraid for the gospel. And she worked in
autism research. And what was happening in West Africa was there was about hundreds of millions
of dollars being sent for disability services and autism research in Africa.
that was not being used to help people.
And so she created a private firm
that made sure that those funds
were actually getting to the agencies,
but she created a lot of enemies.
And in seven years,
she reallocated over 500 million USD to all these agencies.
And they were doing incredible things.
And she would call me and say,
David, this is everything the Lord says that will be done
is now being done.
And, but she was never afraid.
And I said, you should have a bodyguard.
And she said, no, Jesus is my bodyguard.
And there was all these threats on our life.
And her and her husband used to pray every day
for a godly partner for me.
And she's African.
So she said, Lord, I pray
that he would choose a black girl like me.
That was always her prayer.
And I actually told her about this course
and she was so excited.
And she said, finally, Lord, David's humbling himself
to actually learn what he needs to do.
And, and yeah, so she got murdered three weeks ago
and we know it was foul play because of her job.
And yeah, and so I struggled with that.
I'm like, she was just not afraid.
And she said, if it's my time to go, it's my time to go.
And she had four kids.
Yeah.
No, I mean, you really have to do what he tells you to do.
But she's got four kids, but she made a,
this is kind of what I wanted,
why one of the reasons I wanted to talk about this,
the impact Charlie Kirk had, the impact she had, right?
Even though she was murdered and it was a shorter time,
like they lived, she lived a life of impact, right?
Like, what, like, you know, I don't know about you,
but at the end of the day,
I want my life to count for something, right?
You know, and so I'm like,
how do we live lives of impact, right?
You know, so, no, and I'm sorry that you lost a friend.
That's, that's terrible, right?
That's, that's really hard, but you know,
and like, you know, you guys,
I end up in the craziest places
just because I'm following Jesus, right?
You know, and I don't, it's not something that's like,
I don't even, I'm like, it's just him and me, right?
Like, I was like, you know,
but like, I want to go out with my boots on, right?
You know, I don't know about you guys,
but I want to live a life that when I look back at it,
I go, man, I don't have any regrets.
I mean, I have, obviously, I want to,
from now forward, I prefer to have,
live a life of no regrets, right?
You know, like, I took the shots.
I, you know, I swung and missed, or I didn't,
but at least I, but at least I played the game, right?
And I think too often as men, we're passive, right?
We're waiting for things to happen.
And that's actually really unattractive,
by the way, for women.
You know, you want to be unattractive, be a passive dude,
because they want somebody who's,
who are strong and they're leaders, right?
Not domineers, but leaders, right?
And so, but yeah, no, thank you for sharing, David,
because, oh, Tim, you want to chime in?
I see your hands raised, or is it, or did I miss it?
No, no, it's not.
Before you, that it's not necessarily,
I think myself, a lot of us, we usually think that,
that it's, you know, living to 80 or 90
and making a difference, but you're right,
like Charlie Kirk or, you know, the friend in Africa,
you know, they lived, what, 20, 30, 40 years,
and at 31, Kirk made more impact than I might at 91.
And so that's a good perspective that you're bringing there,
Mike, that it's not always the number of our years,
but hey, let's, whatever years God gives us,
or let's make.
Make the most of them, right?
You guys, I had a friend,
makes me, I'm gonna make me cry.
One of my best friends, they found out,
they were, they got pregnant,
and we were super excited, right?
And then they found out that the baby
had been formed without a skull in the womb.
And the doctors were like,
hey, you need to abort this baby, it'll never survive,
right, and I stood beside him for months,
and we prayed, and we prayed,
and we prayed that that skull would come into contact
and that everything would.
work out and like they'd be blessed.
And she lived 45 minutes.
But that 45 minutes of her life united a whole church.
Because the whole church came around them and loved on them and six or seven hundred
people were united.
So she lived for 45 minutes but had an impact far beyond most people have in a whole lifetime.
We were wrecked, but we don't always know the impact that we'll have.
And so yeah, live a life well.
I know.
Another thing is when I think about Dr. King and comparing to Charlie Kirk, it kind of
how their death had an impact on bringing people together.
And it's kind of like what our blessed Lord said, and thus a seed falls into the ground
and dies, it cannot grow.
And so it must die in order for it to bear more fruit.
And you know, it was interesting because I was at work and the minute I saw that Charlie
Kirk passed, I had this vision.
And it was a vision of like millions of seeds just exploding all over the world, all over
the earth.
And as his blood went in the ground, and I was like, oh my gosh, like his death was terrible.
But like, you know, Satan got Jesus on the cross and he thought he won, right?
You know, Satan thought he, you know, he's like, I won, I killed him, right?
But then it ended up flipping and, you know, and I just feel like this Charlie Kirk thing
is going to be a mass.
So that was the vision I had, I had literally had a vision of seeds.
And then when I heard his wife speak, I don't know if you know who Elizabeth Elliott is,
but I was like, oh, this is a modern day Elizabeth Elliott.
So, you know, like some people are made for such a time as this.
You know, I don't want, there's so much stuff that has happened to me in my life.
I wouldn't have wanted any of it, but I'm going to use it for his glory, right?
And like in your guys's lives, you know, you know, like people share testimonies and they
overcame them by the blood of the lamb and the power of their testimony.
Well, you don't get testimonies unless you get a test, you go through tests, right?
And I got plenty of stuff that I never wanted, plenty of tests that I never wanted to go
through, but I could, I'm using those, you know, taking God's redemption of what's happened
to me, using it for his glory, right?
And I think in all your lives, whatever the enemy, you know, whatever the, you know, he,
the Lord turns, Romans 8, 28, God works all things out for those who love him are called
according to his purpose.
He takes everything and he turns it for good, right?
Well, that's if you give it to him to redeem, you know, you go, Jesus, here is, here's my
hurts.
Would you redeem them?
Would you restore them?
And then one day you're at a store, somebody comes in and you're like, yeah, this happened
to me.
And this is what Jesus did.
And then they're delivered because you shared your testimony, right?
And I just encourage you always, always be ready to share a testimony of what God has
done in your life, because you never know the impact you'll have on other people.
Charlie Kirk, really all he did was just love people, right?
I mean, like, you know, and have conversations, right?
And that was his, that was his, and he used his life, used his life and what God had done
in his life to impact others.
And each one of you guys has testimonies.
You have story.
You have things that Jesus wants to use to impact your world.
You know, you guys are all positioned exactly where you're at, because, you know, Ephesians
2, 10, for you are God's masterpiece, created anew in Christ Jesus to do the good things
he planned for you guys long ago.
He planned where you're going to live, where you're going to be, who your parents were,
all because he needed you where you're going to be at.
So you guys are all positioned with a purpose.
And I just want to encourage you guys, like, you know, you're made for such a time as this.
So, I don't know, let's check, make sure there's no...
I always find it interesting how, like, biblically throughout the Bible, names, different names
mean different things and everything else.
And God's outside of time and that his whole ministry was called turning point, in which
now we're seeing it is a turning point.
You're starting to see rallies.
and in like South Korea and in the UK and everything else it's kind of like you know
guys all oh I'm going to use you and we're going to call this turning point and then this is going
to happen and it's going to be the turning point where we're like no we're sorry no more we're done
you know you guys aren't going to act like fools and we're just going to sit there I mean not that
we're going to do anything but just hold people accountable you know to just basic things the
the whole thing that gets me sometimes like Trump shouldn't have had a sign of order that you don't
burn the flag because we all know you don't burn things in public period you don't burn trash you
don't burn tires you know you don't steal you don't push people you just basic laws are not
being upheld and it's oh it's because and you know and if someone says that oh like this is
you know Hitler or whatever I mean but but you know how how the normal people in Germany became
like concentration camp guards because you start seeing people as not human anymore and they
weren't really bad people and and if you think oh I would say Van Frank and have her in my
in my attic well okay but what if you found a mega hat she had a mega hat then now what
because now you're not upholding the right side and you know you're you're not moral now because
this is a bad person you know and it's just it's it's crazy the stuff going on in Portland night
after night it's like done crazy just crazy you know we let them get we're just letting people
not follow just the basic principles that everyone loves you know I watch Mississippi
and we've let history repeat itself too yeah instead of wearing white you hiding their face
behind white sheets now they hide their face behind black mask and they're called Antifa
you know and both of those stem from that side because their history is that so okay so but like
that's what okay you know but that's what the enemy is doing right but yeah like but let's look
at what God's you know like I mean it's easy to see what he's doing but you see all these people
like Charlie was you know it was all about Jesus right and all these people are coming to church
and all these things and there's a revival happening because of all of this so yeah the
enemy is doing all kinds of crazy stuff which is that's in his mo but God is moving and I just want
to focus on that part and like and God's all right and God's called us to love others and there's a
lot there's a lot of people in your circles right now are really confused angry frustrated I mean
like I'm like oh my gosh I've been following this thing for a long time and now they're celebrating
murder right yeah isn't that crazy yeah and then they're blaming people because they're losing their
jobs over it it's like someone told me it's like you were you play stupid games you win stupid prizes
well but but but okay so I I understand that's but like but I I want to focus on the humanity
like the people who around us who are are hurting because of that right like you know yeah yeah I
mean there's the knuckleheads I mean I don't I don't like focusing on knuckleheadery because it's
just not awesome right but I know I I do I want to focus on what God's doing versus what the enemy
is doing right well what's what's kind of well it's not what I was tripping um because I was
thinking okay so there'll be a thousand year reign under Christ yeah but then we turn against it
and then I realized because it says that satan is unleashed yeah so it's it's those things that
that tell you but you know it's it's everyone well the fact that there's a thousand year
a thousand year reign of Christ and there's but there was there was an uprising in the
garden in in heaven and exactly and so yeah and that's the cool thing about heaven is like
it's going to be after all the uprisings where there's no longer that and so but like right
there's a lot of people who really need to know who Jesus is right now yeah right take every thought
captive and not listen to you know whatever and not focus on the enemy's agenda to decide what
God's doing right right and because I you know I'm not I'm not a political person but I am a kingdom
person right and right now that you know there was the the the billion soul harvest prophesied by Bob
Jones right well I mean I see that these are a lot of the pieces of that right all these and that's
why I'm bringing this that's why I'm belaboring this point it's not to talk about all the what
the enemy is doing is that all these people are are literally shaken to the core and they need
to be shown the rock of Jesus and no and and get and and share the gospel and like this is why I'm
not shaken like I know that if I take if somebody
shoots me and I die, I'm with Jesus.
I don't have that fear.
You know, the, was it the dark ages of the bubonic plague?
I think that was what, I think it was called
the dark ages, right?
Well, where the Christians shone
because they weren't afraid to die, right?
They would go in and love on the sick people
and end up dying and that ended up being a huge revival.
I mean, like that led to a lot of people coming to the Lord
because they weren't afraid to lose their life
because they knew this wasn't what it was all about, right?
And I guess I just wanna tether,
I wanted to check in and make sure everybody's,
I mean, I was grieving last week.
I'm still grieving, right?
Like heavily, but I also am excited to see
all these young people's hearts opening up
and questioning and where I can see the Lord
wanting to share, to do a massive revival, right?
And so I just, I wanna focus on what the Lord is doing
and not what the enemy is doing
because every time I focus on what the enemy is doing,
I get really frustrated and angry and you know,
and then I don't end up doing what I'm supposed to do.
And if we're gonna live lives of impact
and we're gonna do what, and we're gonna go out
with our boots on, we need to be doing
what Jesus is calling us to do,
not responding to what the enemy is doing.
Sorry, I'm getting a little preachy,
but like, I'm preaching to this guy too
cause I really wanna get in and start swinging.
Like Abram, I feel you, bro.
I'm like, let's go.
I wanna freak, let's drop it.
Let's put some gloves on and let's just freaking go.
Let's all buy a hundred acres.
Let's restart, let's go.
But really, it's about loving people, right?
And there's a lot of people hurting right now, right?
That need to know Jesus, that don't know Jesus
of every lifestyle thing, right?
There's a lot of scared people
because they back something
and they realize it's a monster, right?
Like, I wanna talk about how
when you're freaking core shaken, right?
It's like, oh, I've been believing, you know,
they've lied to me this whole time.
I mean, that don't just, you know.
It's gonna backfire on them, yeah, for sure.
His voice has just been amplified.
Yeah, and so I guess the reason why I'm also sharing this
is just be, there's a lot of people open right now
where you can just chat with them and like,
hey, how are you doing?
You know, and they're like, you know, I'm really shattered.
It's like, you know what, it's like, yeah.
You know, Jesus is the only thing
that keeps me square, right?
You know, the only reason why I'm not rattled,
I'm upset, but I'm not rattled
is cause I know Jesus has me.
You know, and I mean, I felt like when Charlie passed,
I literally was sitting there
and I could feel the reckoning with me.
Like, am I gonna play it safe?
Am I gonna back down?
And I'm like, no.
I mean, you know, I mean,
cause I go into some dark places, right?
Where it's kind of spooky.
I mean, there's been times I was in San Francisco
where I was like, oh, is it, if it's,
I'm taking you with me, you know?
But like the Lord ended up being with me.
I almost got jumped by like six guys one time.
And I was like, well, oh my God.
And so, but you know, but, you know,
and in those times, just for like practical application,
I was like, Lord, can you bring me angelic covering?
You know, like surround me.
And it was interesting
cause I don't know why they didn't jump me.
I don't know if you ever have that feeling
where like you walk in and you're like,
oh, this is not gonna go well, right?
And I walked right through unscathed.
And I have to say, it's probably
because I was sitting there praying in tongues
under my breath, right?
I mean, so there's weapons of our warfare we can use
that we don't have to just be stupidly,
blindly walking into things, right?
But like I say, I'm not gonna start any fights
that he isn't calling me into.
Does that, you know, like I'm not gonna get pulled
into the enemy's camp because,
it's hard to not get pulled into that camp, by the way.
So, you know, like sometimes it's like, you know,
I'm like, he's like, he's fishing, right?
He's like, okay, come on.
Because I have something that I need to do.
I need to love on people and tell them about Jesus, right?
I, you know, and I have a whole area, a Metron,
a whole group of people he's surrounded me with,
that he's entrusted all the people to me.
Each one of you guys has a Metron
that has been entrusted to you, right?
I've been entrusted with 285 packages
to deliver to people in an area.
See, okay, so, but the packet,
the Lord isn't interested in people,
in packages, he's interested in.
people. I know and part of my witness is getting that package to them on time. Yeah, so um
Can I, can I go Mike?
Yeah, oh, oh, sorry, sorry go go for it
Um, yeah, this is all really interesting to me
um
Just being Canadian like hearing you guys talk is like a it's just a totally different
There's things i've never thought about before so thank you guys for sharing and and like and my brain is just i'm like
Abram was talking. I was like, oh, this is like a totally perspective. I've never heard before
um, so yeah, thank you guys for sharing and uh
I think you're right mike. It reminded me a lot of jim elliott and elizabeth elliott, too. Um
but uh
Yeah, I I have a lot now to pray about i'm like, oh man, there's so many things i've never thought about before so
um, but my question is is um
is is about purity like
How do we like specific because I found that like the enemy has been trying to get at me specifically since finishing the heart work
oh, yeah, like so just trying to be totally free from it like even
Like free from pornography, but even like free from social media because I feel like every time I go on social media
there's like a naked person or like
yeah, like I just have to turn it off and so
No, I've had to do that where I just had to shut instagram down for a while
Right, like my algorithm had
You know every time I tried to delete something it seemed to amplify it
Right, you know and it's just not good and you know, it's like all things are possible, but all things are profitable
right and like um
Knowing yourself and your boundaries, you know and like, um, if it's killing you cut it out
right, you know, you know and um, and the thing is is um, it's uh, it's 21 days
Uh, it's 21 days for uh
If you can cut it out for 21 42 or 63 days you will now have a new neural pathways
Which you won't be craving that any longer
Are you guys familiar with neuroplasticity
So like
For those who are not like so, okay
So you have a way that you do something it does this rut in your brain
So if you want, but your brain is made to change
So if you decide to go on a different route, so let's say like for me, um, uh, I was introduced to pornography at
six years old
Uh hardcore pornography at like seven. Um, my whole life was sexualized. So I
Didn't need pornography anyways, but like so most of my life that rut was really deep, right?
But you know, um as I got out of it
I would get pulled back in but I would get back out and get and the more you pull out of the rut
The old rut dies and the new one is burned in right?
So that's why I say, you know, because the enemy will bring condemnation like oh you fell just keep get back in it
Go go go for you know, go go roll in the mud. You're already goofed up
Might as well just go have a great time. Don't do that
Hey, if you fall off the wagon get back on the wagon, you know
There's no condemnation for those who are in christ jesus and when you get back on the wagon
You start building that new neural pathway at your freedom from them. So if you have issues with porn or lust
whatever
it
Whatever that you know, you've worn that that road in
Do a new one with purity and it may talk you may have to fast social media
You may have to and know your times like there's hungry angry lonely tired
Those are the times when you're susceptible, but the more you build that new road
That you're building a road to freedom
So you may fall back in but just get back on the road and eventually that old road will die
And I guess I want to encourage you. You can be free in 64 days
That's what it takes now if you fall back out of the rut, that's 64 days of wearing the same, right?
but if you're how if you have a heavy duty deep one, you know, and you're bouncing back and forth it takes a little longer, but
60, uh, dr. Carolyn leaf neuroplasticity 64 days. The old old one literally dies out of your brain
Is that is that encouraging you guys that you can be free in 64 days?
It's 64 is 3 times 21, right?
63 days. Yeah
For for me like I I was free for uh, 12
But but recently it's been kind of a bit of a struggle again. So get back on the road get back on the road
Yeah, you fall off the wagon get back on the road, I mean you guys like that that is it
Fall off get on
Come to the you know, and and you should be running to the father and say, you know father. I need help
not father, you know because I
I used to be like, oh i've sinned
Like i'm not worthy and ran
Right, which then propagated stupidity, right? Now I go lord. I you know
But I need help because I screwed up.
So somebody else was saying something.
What about the neuroplasticity?
Anybody else that encouraging to?
I love that he created freedom in our brains,
even from the craziest things.
That's a really good point.
It's 21 days and there's a good chance
that you create a new habit or break a bad habit.
Yeah, well, 21 days is enough to create the new one.
42 days ingrains it more.
63 days is when it becomes permanent.
It's just how neuroplasticity works.
And like I say, it does change if you fall off.
So, okay, so like David, you said that,
you've been struggling now, but you have the road built.
Just get back on the road.
Stop building the bad road and get on the good road.
Does that make sense?
Also, look at why you're getting on the other road
in the first place.
What's the root?
That's one great thing about heart work
is what is the core thing?
Why am I going to this for comfort?
What is the core issue?
And bring it, go through the heart work
and figure out why.
See, for me, it's always something that's coming up.
It's something, a heart wound
is wanting me to go to comfort.
And so it's like, why am I wanting to comfort?
What am I trying to comfort?
What am I trying to, or hide or run away from?
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Yes, that's good.
So like, if you fall off the wagon, get back on the road.
I mean, like you guys, like it's just,
and run to the father and say,
forgive me, father, because I screwed up.
And he's excited to have you back in connection
and relationship, right?
I mean, I think I shared this once before,
but like, I blew it.
You know, my roommate, oh, it was just crazy.
But, and I was so ashamed and like,
and I just was beating myself to death, right?
And I heard the father sobbing.
And I'm like, why are you sobbing?
He's like, because I don't care what you did.
I'm broken because now you're punishing yourself
and our relationship's broken.
I want you to repent and come back
so we can be together again.
And that forever changed my life, right?
Was I realized the father just wants me back home, right?
And me punishing myself is punishing him too, right?
And so, and it's not helpful.
If you think punishing yourself is gonna create
or shaming yourself in something, it doesn't work.
You can't shame yourself into new behavior.
You can all, you know, it just doesn't work.
You can love yourself in a new behavior.
So by getting back, you know, so if you're on the bad road
and you get on the new one, when you get on that new road,
you're loving yourself well, you realize that, right?
You know, that's loving yourself well.
So the more you love yourself well,
and you stay off of the bad roads
which are not loving yourself well,
the better you're gonna be off.
I mean, we're kind of coming up on time guys.
Anything anybody else wants to chat about or anything?
Yeah, yeah, stop the guilt and shame of those actions.
Get back to the healthier habits and you will be free.
Amen, that is completely true.
Thank you guys for sharing tonight.
I literally have learned so much,
especially when John and Hunter and Abram were talking.
I'm like, my mind is blown, so thanks guys.
Well, and realize that you're all warriors, dude.
Like, let's go, like, you know, let's just fricking,
you know, it's funny cause I got my fricking hammer, bro.
I got my sword over there.
Go dude, let's fricking go, you know?
And so, like, because we're warriors
and we're meant to do great things.
Right?
Hey David, did you want to say something?
David, PA, Penshaw.
I just had, I know totally different topic,
but I was just, I mean, if anything,
I want to err on the side of being, I guess,
too light on like a first potential video date.
Cause we were kind of on that topic earlier.
But like, but what I was thinking was two quick things
was just like, just focus on like me the first day,
just focus on like finding out at least one
or a few things they really like to do.
And then what do they like to do when they,
what do they like to do to relax?
You know, whether that's, you know, knitting
or walking a trail or whatever.
You know, hiking or what do you do to blow off steam?
What do you do after work?
You know, what's your what's your show place?
What if you could go anywhere in the world, where would it be?
You know, without like, you know, what's your dream vacation?
Like stuff that so OK, so you can talk about.
Past things after you kind of develop the now and like where you're both at
and and like what and can you envision a future together?
Hey, she she likes, you know, freaking curling.
I'm like, I don't know what curling is, but it looks kind of fun.
We can like shave the ice.
It can help.
You know, like, I don't know.
I'm not a Canadian or I don't know.
It's kind of Canadian.
I don't know.
Anyways, I we I'm in Cali.
We don't have a lot.
Yeah, so but like can this person is this person somebody like what they do
and what they like to do?
Are we a match there?
Do I have fun?
What is my nervous system saying when I'm with this?
That's another thing.
You guys pay attention.
What is your nervous system saying?
Now for me, when I went on my first date for my nervous, I was actually
disassociating and that was because I had hard work to do, right?
So be it may not necessarily be the person, but like notice your nervous
system.
I come around this person.
Do I like this person or am I feeling like I'm walking on eggshells?
And then if you feel like you're walking on eggshells, come back to
hard work and say, okay, why do I feel like I'm on eggshells?
Is it because something in my past or is it because this person is doing
something that triggers that it to me?
Does that make sense?
Like, okay, you're staying present feeling and just getting to know
what happened like having a good time, right?
Not getting serious and you know, not getting deep and serious.
Just be like, hey, you know.
What was your favorite childhood memory, right?
You know, like do you sports do you play like there's a million like
Google like best fun first date questions.
There's a million of them out there.
You guys like, okay, we have yeah.
And if it's short and light.
The other thing is I don't want to go too far with the questions.
See that that's the thing I'm struggling with in my head.
It's like I don't want it.
I don't want to do a second interview.
No, no, no.
That's why you ask.
Okay.
I said fun questions not proctology questions.
We're not asking for proctology or like whatever, you know, like it's
it's just have fun and let the question question.
So what is your favorite color?
Not a great question, right?
Because how long did that last?
Like like 30 seconds.
That's why I'm saying like, what is your like?
What was your dream vacation?
And what would you wear?
Or something.
You see how it's multi-tiered where they can kind of and found it and
it's not a 30-second question.
Yeah, and it's basically something that's current or maybe only going
back in the past.
Maybe a couple months because we're not digging into the past beyond
that on the first few days.
You shouldn't be talking about the past nothing.
You're talking about you for 30 minutes and from 30 minutes forward.
That's what we're talking about.
And like I think you're really, I mean, you know, you know, and you
can banter like, you know, I bet you I can beat you at chess or
something like, you know, which right and like, you know, and they
may go.
Oh, yeah, bring it big boy, right, you know, and then you know that
they can play right, but you know that I didn't have to ask a question.
Right, you know, I actually need to be taking notes because this is
a really good stuff guys.
My yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I guess my biggest concern is like in the past.
I've gone way too fast too deep and I recognize if you're dating if
you're dating you're dating.
It's not a it's not a ministry connection.
It's okay.
I'm path.
I can go too far too fast, but now it's your day 40,000 feet.
You're up above the clouds.
You're looking at the whole atmosphere the world, you know, you know,
and then if you like you want to come down a couple thousand feet,
you can and another day, but you want them to leave with like I had
a great time.
I really like this person.
And when you get into debt death and dread and this is my ex and
all that crap.
That's like you want you want a positive if you look at it like a
bank account, right?
Yeah, like you want like positive vibes or whatever a bank of
positivity.
And then when you have to bring up negative things you have something
to withdraw from.
Right, whereas most people are like, here's all my crap.
You know, and they're like, well, no, I don't even know you have any redeeming qualities. I just know you have a bunch of crap.
Yeah, right. Like and like, I don't want a relationship with a with a bunch of crap. I, you know, you know, so you just get to be you and the other other other like, David, the one thing you want to leave with that, that whole thing is that you are yourself the whole time.
Mm hmm. Right.
I learned that the hard way at the last situation shit.
So but like, and you learn like, okay, so, so the last situation and you've you have past mistakes you've made that are now gonna now you're learning from those and just be present, be yourself.
And if they don't like the real you, then great. You find that out early. But if they like the real you, then you have a real relationship. You can't come in being like Rico Suave and when you're not if you're Rico Suave be Rico Suave.
If you're David Henshaw be David Henshaw, but don't be somebody else what you think they want you to be.
Don't be pleasing and you know if there's something that they say that you don't like to see. Yeah, no, that doesn't work for me.
Right.
I mean, women don't want yes men.
I mean, like literally speak, you know, speak your mind.
Yeah, you have to have real boundaries, unless they're really broken then they don't care but then that's not good.
But then, but you don't want that.
But yeah, that's what I'm saying. I don't want that.
That reveals that they're not ready.
And then you have decisions you can make because you have information. You're on an information thing. Can I have fun with this person? Can we be polite? Do I like them? Right? Do I want another date?
And I would say that you guys and David or the other David.
I really like that you're given that gallon of the chance because sometimes first dates or the first couple times people are freaking out.
They're nervous, anxious, and you don't actually get to meet the real me real them right on that first date.
I was so sad because I couldn't I was so wound up. I wasn't actually me.
Right. So she never actually got to read that meet the real me.
And, you know, and that was on that was on me because I didn't show up in a way that I should have. Right.
But just just be you. Hopefully she's her. But like, you know, give it a couple rounds if unless it's horrific and there's so many red flags that you can't like.
But, you know, realize that, you know, not everybody. I mean, I don't have a ton of dating experience. Right. So I have nothing myself.
Yeah. I mean, I married my first girlfriend. So, like, you know, like that, you know, that lasted 19 years.
You know, I mean, if my first relationship was 21 years, but like now I'm single, single, re single.
I question about what you said earlier. Just real quick. You said you were dissociative with that one experience.
Oh, yeah. That was me by that. You were emotionally numb. I don't know what you mean.
No, no, no. So this is so. OK, so I have there's a lot of trauma, especially with females.
My ex used to explode. Right. So disassociating means you like literally are you're like, let's say if I were to disassociate right now.
I would just if you would I would just go silent for about for a time. I never knew how much time elapsed when I.
It's basically you crawl under the recesses of your protective shield until the blast goes off and then you peek out and see if everything's OK.
Right. So this gal got all wired. She was a fighter. She was a fighter. You know, there's fire. There's fight, fight, fight or fawn.
Right. And she was a fighter and she came at me and I just. Circuit breaker popped. Right.
And then I came back and I had no idea what had transpired and how long I'd been been gone.
Right. And that happened about a half a dozen times. And so when I came back, I had to do some trauma therapy because, you know, like Jackie says, you can't like what's broken in relationship has to be healed in relationship.
Right. So I didn't know I had that issue until I got back in relationship.
Then when it came up and I was realizing I was missing pieces of this whole date that I had things and it ended up being stuff that my ex would do that and my stepdad.
I mean, it went back to my childhood. Right. That's usually where it comes from. Right. Unless it's adulthood when you have trauma is any trauma can happen at any time.
But for me, it was it's a lifelong thing. And so I developed a skill of disassociation.
to protect myself from explosive, really painful situations. I know that's, is that, does that
make sense? I know that's a lot.
Yeah, well, one aspect of that could be some people will call that ghosting, some of that,
like that's a whole thing.
No, it's not. Ghosting is like, I, I'm just not going to deal with you. This is literally
my brain, you know, you've heard be triggered. So I got triggered and disappeared. Right?
It wasn't a conscious, it was a subconscious thing. Ghosting is a conscious thing. And
that's like an avoidant style thing. Right? I'm not talking about connect, about attachment
styles, attachment styles, right? I'm talking about, I had trauma in my life that was causing
me when females would get angry to come into like be a turtle and go into a shell instantaneously
to protect from the blast that I usually received. And then I'd take my head out and see if there
was any of the world left. Right? After, you know, and so, and that was a cycle that was
in my marriage. Right? And so I do the, I had to go through the heart work to find,
so I can tell you all this because I went through the heart work to get rid of it. And
now I am free of it. But it took a really rough first state to do that. So I guess that's
what I'm saying is be self aware of yourself. And I was very self aware. And I was able
to, things came up. So then the next date I was on, I'm no longer dealing with that
and I can be fully present.
Mm hmm. Yeah, I tend to be more either disorganized or avoidant. I don't know which is more strong,
but they're about the same.
So, and don't, and you know what? I, I love, okay, I get you guys. I love attachment styles
for help. I hate it because people label themselves, right? You don't know, really fully know what you
are. You can think you're one thing or the other and in different, different circuits. So don't
take labels as an identity, like attachment styles as an identity, right?
I see it as a road sign to like, that I have an arrow on it pointing back to secure.
Yeah. So, no, and that's, and that's great because you're using it as a tool,
but a lot of people use it as a, like a red letter, a scarlet letter, right? I'm avoidant.
And I'm like, no, you're not. You're just broken, right? And you can be secure because
Jesus came to set the captives free. So I'm going to have to wrap this up, you guys.
Can I pray? Can I pray us anything pressing before I pray us out?
Thank you all for showing up and having a great combo.
And thank you for doing this, Mike.
Yeah. So Lord Jesus, I just thank you for every man on this call.
Lord, we thank you for Charlie Kirk. And maybe we man that we have a legacy like he did.
Lord, he was only here 31 years, but he impacted the world. Would you use everybody on this call?
Would you call us? Would you help us walk in the fullness of our identity
in you and walk in the fullness of our calling? And may we shape the world.
And I pray that you give us a supernatural sensitivity to everything around it,
the people around us, and that we would bring your kingdom and we would love on people.
And many would come to know you just because we're just lights in the world.
And Lord, I pray for every man on this call, you'd help them with their hurts,
their hangups, their triggers. Lord, I pray for both Davids and anybody else who has a date,
that they would be able to show up to this themselves and they'd have a great time.
Lord, I pray you bring amazing spirit mates for every single person here.
And Lord, but most of all, that they would feel your love and how much you care for them.
And I just bless all these guys with joy and shalom. And Lord, I don't know,
would you just get Abraham the funds for his vision and his mission?
And anybody else on here who has a call on their lives and a passion, Lord,
I just pray that you would provide for that vision. And Lord, and we just thank you,
you're so amazing and that you love us and that no matter what we do, we can come to you.
And Lord, I pray that you would just encounter us in a new way this week.
In Jesus name, I pray. Amen.
Love you all. And David, make sure to end recording, please.
Okay. How do I do that?
Just hit end recording.
All right, buddy.
All right. Be blessed all.
Or just leave and I think it'll stop.
Oh, are you leaving? I'll end it.
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