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Hello, everybody.

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Hey, Sally.

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Hey, Robin.

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Hey, Xavier.

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Hey.

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Good to see you.

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Hey, Lara.

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You got the book from Graham cook.

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Lindsay did.

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Yeah, hiddenness and manifestation.

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Okay, that's what it was. Yeah.

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If you can put that in the chat. I want to copy it. I can. Yeah.

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I think I heard that there, you might be able to find some of this stuff on Amazon. Sometimes it's hard to find. And I know they're trying to move some stuff over to Amazon now, but there's also a digital version.

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And I think you can order a physical copy from his website, but it's maybe you can help us track that down hiddenness and manifestation by Graham cook.

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Yeah, I think it's such a good, you know, as you're, as you're leading anything, there's ebbs and flows to that public private public private also just in your just in your life, you know, with the Lord and Graham I think just has such a articulate and he's lived it.

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But articulate way of talking about the ebbs and flows of hiddenness and manifestation in your relationship with the Lord and what that looks like in just everyday life and why why they are equally important and necessary and it doesn't mean that anything's wrong.

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And you find yourself in a, in a season of hiddenness, which sometimes we think, oh, the, you know, we say things or we, we feel things like God doesn't feel very near right now or I'm having a hard time hearing from him like I used to in past seasons like have I done something wrong.

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And, no, it's just part of his development process with us. And so yeah, so that book.

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I won't preach the book you should read.

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It's been very helpful for me because I've been in that place you know you guys know that I've taken a step back publicly from a lot of things and there's, there's a temptation to think at times, did I make the right call, did I do the right thing am I being afraid.

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You know, all the, all the things that we all the self taught negative self talk at times, and it was just a great reminder that no like there is meaning to this and it's part of your development process with the Lord and it's not just it's no one bypasses it, there's just going to be seasons that like that so.

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Thanks for bringing that up remind remembering that Robin.

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I know we have a global audience, but there's lots of things happening in the globe.

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And here in the United States we had a very heavy.

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And I would say heavy in events, obviously the assassination of Charlie Kirk school shootings.

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There's also been some other, there's been lots of other acts of violence and I won't like list them all that have been outbreaking and things like that, but also in the atmosphere, you can cut you can feel it.

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Not just in the physical, but in the digital, where we are all working to pioneer territory in.

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And so I, it would be so irresponsible and avoidant behavior to just pretend that that didn't happen and just jump into a coaching call.

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We're not going to have a discussion of every angle of what's happened this week, lots of people are talking about things, and that's good right there's lots of different angles that people are taking from their places of leadership and the communities that they're leading.

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But our commitment to you is always to stay on course and you guys have hired us to coach you in the realm of pioneering in the digital landscape and building online communities and leading those communities effectively.

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And so that's what those that's the boundaries of this conversation right so I'm your coach. I'm not going to tell you what to think I'm going to help teach you how to think about these things.

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And from my perspective, of course, and there's, you know, we have, we're all mature here.

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We're all led by the Holy Spirit. So I am probably for sure not going to be able to cover everything that should be said in the next hour.

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Right, because there's too much that probably should be said so come with the expectation of I'm not trying to cover, cover every angle and answer every question of your heart, and, you know, be an be all things right now.

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This is just from a, this is just from a place of we're going to continue to coach you in the, in the realm of pioneering digital territory, leading

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online communities and advancing the kingdom of God. Okay? Sound good? And I'm probably not going

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to do this like extremely profound or articulate because just like everyone else is probably in

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this week, like it's affected me deeply, right? And that's okay. It doesn't make me less mature

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in Christ that I'm affected by things happening in the world that I have to stop and grieve and

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process and ask really hard questions, right? And I hope that you guys have that permission

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to in your own walks and journeys. I think that, and Laura, I saw that you dropped this in the

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tribe account. I think Holly's talk was so prophetically timely for us last week.

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And I'm really glad that I heard the prompting to like, let's have Holly do it. Like I don't

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need to even just try to copy what she did. I think she should just come and do it. And she

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did it so well. But at the tail end of that conversation, we talked about self-governance

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and I was talking about the soul and I was talking about why this is so important that

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we understand what it means to be spirit led, that we have a soul, but we are spirit beings

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and we need to learn to lead our souls well. And there's a lot of confusion, even in faith-based

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spaces where the soul seems so tethered to who we are that we think that is who we are.

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And so things like feelings and thoughts, we sometimes feel like we can't discern, is that me?

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Is that the enemy? Is it okay to feel these things? Is it okay to think these things?

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And I want to read a scripture. I'll probably read a lot of scriptures today.

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Honestly, wash us in the water of the word. But I want to read Hebrews 4, 14 through 16.

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It says, therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven, Jesus,

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the son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. For we do not have a high priest

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who's unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who's been attempted in every way,

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just as we are, and yet he did not sin. So because of that, we can approach God's throne of grace

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with confidence so that we receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.

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And I heard it said really well by a pastor named Tommy Miller. And he said, Jesus did not,

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because it says, he was tempted in every way and he did not sin. And sin, I know that it's,

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a lot of people say, and not wrongly so, sin is missing the mark. There's even deeper dives into

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the language of the Bible, Hebrew and Greek, where people will say sin is really a distorted

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view of self. It's a misperception of self. And so it comes back to a lot of these conversations

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we've been having around identity, right? And we were talking about identity statements in

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the prophetic, but it all leads back to the one thing that we are one with Christ

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and Christ knows who he is, and we can be confident in that. He is unshaken by his identity.

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He does not allow, he can be tempted, he was tempted in every way, and he did not allow that

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to be a distorted view. He did not allow himself to take on a distorted view of self. He remained,

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he remained confident in who he was, and we can too, because if it's true about Jesus,

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it's true about us. So there's even scriptures like, hey, be angry and sin not, right? Jesus

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did not allow the sin toward him to create sin in him. And that's really important. And so why I want

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to be talking about this is because as we're leading online communities, and there is stuff

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happening in people's personal lives, right? That they cannot ignore, there's things happening in

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the world that they cannot ignore and often cannot control. As we lead people, I don't even

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want to say before we lead people, because we are, sometimes we're so overly self-conscious that we

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disqualify ourselves, like, oh, I don't have what it takes to like lead people in this really hard

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time. I'm not saying that, I'm not professing that, I'm just saying we can get stuck there.

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But as we lead people, it's important that we continue to lead ourselves and continue to lead

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our souls into wholeness based on who we are in the spirit, which is one with Christ, never

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separated, never tired, never weary, never believing a lie, never sinning. We have perfect perception

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living inside of us, and we can lead our souls there too. And I'm using souls to really

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the seat of our emotions, our thoughts, and even our will. Submitting those things to Christ,

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as scripture tells us to do. And so the things that Holly talked about even last week, where

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we can even give ourselves permission, and I think this is really important for me especially,

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because I grew up in a faith tradition where it was like, you don't feel negative emotions.

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It's unchristlike. And I don't think that that is biblically accurate.

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But we're going to feel some things here on earth, because we have a soul that has emotions.

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And some of those emotions are, you know, quote, unquote, negative, and some of them are positive.

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But they're not who we are. But they are sending signals to us about either what we who we think

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we are in the moment, or just honestly, what's going on in the world around us. Our nervous

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system, like Holly was talking about, picks up on things. This is divine design. This is not a

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defect. We have a nervous system that's divinely designed to help regulate us, and also send

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signals to us when we need to run for our lives. Hey, there's a bear! And so the nervous system is

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not in charge. We're in charge of the nervous system. The mind is not in charge. We're in

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charge of the mind. The emotions are not in charge. We're in charge of the emotions. But it doesn't

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mean we ignore them. I have children. I'm raising my children to maturity. I don't ignore them

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when things are happening that are less than pleasant. I have to face those tantrums, and I

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have to face the words, and I have to face the behavior, and I have to make a decision in my own

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maturity, in my own confidence of who I am, as the role of their mother, that I have what it takes

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to lead them to wholeness, to lead them to maturity. And I have to have that same confidence over

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myself and my soul. And so when we're leading communities and things are happening,

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whether personal or external, it's okay to pause. That's what patience is.

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And consider, what are we feeling right now? What are we thinking? How are we affected by this?

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I'm really angry. Okay, I don't need to stuff that down, because that will eventually come out.

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And if I ignore it, like an abandoned child, it's going to be extremely explosive when it does come

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out. Hey, I'm really sad. David, in Psalm 42, asked his soul, soul, why are you so downcast?

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And then he speaks truth to his soul. Let me read that. Psalm 42, 11. Why are you cast down,

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O my soul? And why are you in turmoil within me?

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This is really interesting, because he's talking to it as if it's outside of himself.

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That, hey, I recognize you're a part of me, but you're not me.

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He had a revelation of who he was in spirit, and that the things that he was experiencing

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the world were not necessarily his true identity. There's my dog. The male is here.

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But they were important enough to face and question and bring back to the truth.

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Why are you cast down, O my soul? And why are you in turmoil within me? Hope in God,

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for I shall again praise him in my salvation. I praise in my salvation and my God.

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Soul, why are you downcast? This is what we're going to do about it. This is who we are,

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and this is who God is. Bless the Lord, O my soul, Psalm 103. Bless the Lord, O my soul,

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and forget not his benefits. And then he lists a lot of the benefits. Let's be specific, soul.

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You need to know specifically what's going, what, you know, what the truth is. And I know that

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because it's scripture and we're reading it line by line, it feels even instantaneous,

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but this could have been a process. This could have been a week's long conversation.

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It could have been a month's long conversation. There is a development process that we don't

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have to bypass, even in the instantaneous things that are happening in the world, right?

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It doesn't mean that there can't be an immediate reaction. So what I'm not saying is, oh, if people

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responded immediately, if you put something on social media immediately, you're not being

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mature. You should have paused. No, because what happens is sometimes you will get to a place in

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knowing who you are that the reaction or the

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response, I'll use that word, will be quicker each time.

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Because remember, Holly was talking about, you know, when we

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respond to fear, with courage, it's like building a muscle. So

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we're strengthening our mind, we're creating new neural

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pathways to where what may be used to take weeks, only takes

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days, what used to take days only takes hours, then minutes,

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sometimes it's and then it becomes instant because we've

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done it so much. And we've responded according to who we

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are so many times that it's clear for us, like when

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something like that happens. And then also, there's a

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multiplication effect. So the more that we are pouring into

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courageous acts ourselves, the more opportunities like she was

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saying, talking about how more opportunities begin to present

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themselves to be great, you know, to be courageous and, you

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know, show up and speak truth, and influence more people. She

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talked about your energies, right? I've just even been I

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know that, you know, I love that she's pushing the boundaries on

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that and taking us into a place of, hey, this is, this is not

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just for the new age, like they've taken biblical

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principles and have taken Christ out of them. But like, we are

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made to affect the atmospheres around us. And that is not just

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by faith, that is by reality. That we could show up into a

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room and it feels different. I want to get to a place I'm not

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there yet. I want to get to a place where I land in a city and

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it feels different. Like, do you think that when Jesus showed up

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in a new town, something shifted in the atmosphere? I believe so.

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And if it's true about Jesus, it's true about us. So it is, it

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is okay, if you're not even if you're like, hey, I haven't been

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able to process or think. I'm not even assuming we're all on

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the same page. Okay. And I think that's important too, for me to

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say that we're all even interpreting the events that

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have happened in the same way. But it cannot be denied that

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there has been an uprise in pretty beautiful acts of worship

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and unity around the world. And that does not just happen by a

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physical event taking place, that happens because something

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in the Spirit has been released. And I want to say too, I'm very

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careful, I don't want to speak vaguely, right? Like, I don't

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want to be like, trying to tell you this over here, so that you

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attach it to a dot over here. Like, if I'm speaking about

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something that and I think it's about Charlie specifically, like

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I'll tell you, but I'm feeling just the prompt as I was like,

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thinking through, like, where do we go? Like, where do we go from

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here? Is we have to, in the swirl of things, remain

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committed and anchored to who we are, not just who someone else

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is. But who we are, who someone else is can greatly influence us

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in really positive ways. So for me personally, who Charlie Kirk

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was, and what has happened in the last week has greatly

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affected who I am, because I have been challenged in my level

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of courageousness. Like, hey, I don't know that I am in a place

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right now where I'd be willing to show up in a public place and

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give someone who disagrees with me the mic. Love him or hate

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him. That's a pretty courageous thing. I want to be like that. I

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want to be like that. I want to have that level of confidence

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and what I believe to be able to show up in public places and

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engage in dialogue and civil dialogue, knowing that people

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might hurl insults at me, cuss at me, create violence. But I,

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I, I want to be that confident, and that courageous. So that's

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something that has happened in just last week where I'm like,

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hey, I, I need to process that. Because my soul right now, like

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my spirit is very steady, and yours is too. But I've had some,

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I've had a lot of emotions that I've had to process this week

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that I would have in the past, avoided, ignored and stuff down

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because I would not have called those emotions Christlike.

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And I would have missed the opportunity to lead my soul into wholeness in those areas.

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I'm not watching the chat, which is really irresponsible because I'm sure there's a lot

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that's happening. You guys know. You've been there. It's like, how do I pay attention to the

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chat and keep my thoughts together and all of that stuff? Yeah, thank you, too,

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for people who have been praying and

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yeah. So I think if the enemy has any plan at all, it's for disconnection.

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Disconnection from God. So that's sin. That's separation. Really the perception of separation.

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People who do not realize that they're one with God, there's behavioral sin to that,

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but then there's a distorted view of self that causes a life of missing the mark.

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And it's just a perception. It's not the truth. Christ died for all.

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The scripture talks about, in Romans 8, I always take you there, and it talks about how

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there's so much good stuff to read. I'm just gonna, I'm gonna wash this in the Word a little

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bit and read a little bit more than I was intending to. This is really important because

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this is where I was this week. The Spirit helps us in our weakness when we don't know what to pray

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or we don't know how to pray as we ought. What does the Spirit do? Intercedes for us.

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We can do that, too, for a world that doesn't know what to pray.

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So we first do that for ourselves and our connection with the Lord if we're in a place

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where I don't know what to pray. Holy Spirit's praying for me. I recognize that and I receive it.

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doesn't know how at all to pray. So that's beautiful. And He intercedes for us with

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groanings too deep for words. And we, and He who searches hearts knows what is the mind of the

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Spirit because the Spirit intercedes for the saints according to the will of God. And we know

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that for those who love God, all things are called together for good. And for those who are

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called according to His purpose. This is what I wanted to read. For those whom He foreknew,

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He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, in order that He might be the first

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born among many brothers. Is there a human on earth that God did not know?

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No. So that's for everyone. It's not talking about a predestined group of people. It's all of us.

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There's not a human that showed up on this world and God was like, I did not know you were coming.

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He knows us and He predestined us to be made in the image of His Son.

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So we can show up in any conversation, on any platform, on any day, in the middle of any level

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of intensity, with the confidence that we are known, we are one with Him,

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and we are being made into the image of Christ. Our spirits are there. Our souls are catching up.

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I know I have the mind of Christ. My mind is catching up to that truth

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on most days. And that's okay. And that's why I need to have a conversation with it sometimes.

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So why are you angry? It's not necessarily wrong to be angry, but what does that mean?

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You know, what does it mean for us right now that we're so angry, we're so hurt?

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Some of you might be saying, Lindsay, there's a lot of stuff going on this world,

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and it's offensive to me that you would say the Charlie Kirk assassination is a thing that is

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cutting you the most deep right now, because don't you know that there's wars happening

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all around the world, but about what's happening in the Middle East, and hundreds of thousands

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being murdered? There might be a reason that that's why your soul is so intensely stuck in a

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place. And not a bad reason. I'm just being honest, this is where I am. It took an assassination of a

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fellow 30-something in my country that is built on a foundation of free speech. If not in truth,

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definitely in theory, it is the aspiration of this country that we will be able to have free speech.

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And I know I'm skipping around a lot of history, and there's a lot of stuff around that,

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so I'm not trying to oversimplify anything. But it cut me deep.

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where my soul has been right now, processing in those places, those thoughts, images that

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it wasn't supposed to see.

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And so what I've had to do, not out of weakness, not out of defeat, I've had to really be firm

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in my boundaries this week around what my soul can handle and what it can't.

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this week.

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I wanted to show up and blow up day one.

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I wanted to get in the comments section.

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I wanted to read every article.

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I wanted to hear from every angle of this, but I knew that my soul could not handle that.

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media indefinitely.

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And then there's been pockets this week where I have felt in a place from like, you know

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what, I think it's really important that we watch this or we read this.

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And so I've been able to, in maturity, just like with a child, right, like I'm not letting

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my daughter watch every movie available, right?

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I've had, I knew that there was going to be people that I was really close to, that if

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I went on social media, there was a good chance that I would see them post something

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celebratory about what happened.

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it would violate something deep in me and that I might allow that to create sin in me.

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This is not a formula.

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This is just, I'm trying to show you how this was applied in a real life situation.

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So a simple thing you can do is continue in connection with these people outside of

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the situation, right?

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Or I know you think this about so-and-so, or I know you hated whatever.

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I was thinking about you today.

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continued connection, because I knew the enemy wanted to take out those relationships.

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I wasn't doing it to get anything.

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And I wasn't necessarily doing it to fix anything.

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a subconscious level of I'm going to do this so I can show them Christ so that eventually

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they can come over to the right side of believing about things.

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Like that's what evangelism is, like, have great relationships with people and like,

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be Jesus for people, and they're going to come to Jesus, maybe not.

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So I'm creating connection, not to get something or to fix something.

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I'm creating connection, because that is who I am in Christ.

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That's my real self.

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I'm not a disconnector.

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I might do something, some things that people choose to disconnect from me, and that's okay.

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We're not going to, for the sake of, you're not going to be manipulated into enabling

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things.

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People know where I stand out of integrity.

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I don't pretend to be a certain political view around a certain group of people and

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another political view around another person or more Christian or less Christian or more

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prophetic or less prophetic, depending on whom I'm talking to.

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I am who I am authentically and in confidence, but it's not to get something.

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It's simply to give out of who I am.

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I was there. I'm like, oh my gosh, I need to be more courageous

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That means I need to get on social media right now and I need to just say it like it is

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But that's not actually what the Holy Spirit was calling me to do in that moment

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There may come a day where there's an expression of that and it might be a day very soon

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but first I had to connect with

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Who am I and the only way I can do that is to connect with the word Jesus

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Because if it's true about Jesus is true about me

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what I wanted to do what my soul wanted to do is connect first with

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Pastors that I knew that would be saying things that I needed to hear

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I wanted to know what was so-and-so's view on this was because I needed to I didn't know how I didn't know how to think

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About it. I needed some articulation and I could feel my soul craving

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Connection from a very unhealthy spot of like, please tell me how to think please tell me what to think

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Right now I feel so lost versus doing what sometimes feels even harder, which is reaching into the

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Relationship we have with Christ and I think we do this not because we put put it on him

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But we think I don't have what it takes to connect right now or to hear and if that's where you're at

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Like hey, I don't think I'm hearing correctly. That's why we have faith

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Because we can still believe he is who he says he is and we are who he says we are

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Even when we don't quote-unquote feel like it or we don't think like it or we're not sure how to move forward

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Meaning art the seat of our identity because the seat of our identity is much more than what we're currently thinking feeling and maybe even

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choosing

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That will obviously then affect how we're leading others

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even if there's swirl like guys there's gonna be days where you show up to calls and there's things happening in your personal life and

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It's just like you're gonna show up and you're going to like lead by the spirit

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Even when you don't feel like it. I mean, I know you've all been there. You've all coached before you've let employees

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You've done things really like I don't I'm not I don't really feel like I have what it takes and there's a there's 50 things

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Happening in my brain right now, but like I'm committed to this call or I'm committed to this meeting

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And so and you show up and like spirit leads, right?

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That and I think that if we're not aware of this we think oh, that was so not authentic or I'm lying through my teeth

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No, you can still show up like I did and be like, hey, I'm just letting you guys know

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There's been a really challenging week

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I don't have to lie about that. I want to pretend but the same time I can say hey

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I still feel like I've got something to give

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Holly used the word

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There is a true limitlessness to this and

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As we continue to operate from that belief that space of like hey there

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I actually always have something it doesn't mean we burn ourselves out like there was a retreat that was necessary

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That's why that book hiddenness and manifestation by Graham. I think is really powerful and really timely

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Because there it doesn't mean you just like have to show up all the time, but there was parameters

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I had to put I thought to be a mom

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thought of get on the floor and play with my kids and be present when all I wanted to do was read news stories and

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Get the latest and hear highlights and have they caught the guy and like what's going on and like how's his wife doing?

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There'll be time for that later

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We're doing this right now

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We lead ourselves with peace. We don't beat ourselves up

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There's also like some traditional I think faith teaching or it feels like we do this as we're as we're like

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You know beating ourselves and our soul selves into submission. No, we don't do that. That's not how Christ led us

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We're not gonna do that either

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And we're just we're able to ask her questions and in those spaces to say Holy Spirit. I I

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Feel like this is what I need and maybe you do take a tool out of the tool belt

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Maybe you need to talk to a therapist. You talk to a mentor a counselor. That's okay

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There's no shame in that there's no less than in that there's no less maturity

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We need tools sometimes but we're choosing those tools from a place of

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not defeat and surrender

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Like oh, I'm not gonna be able to move on without X Y & Z or you know, it's like no

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Sometimes we need help from other tools, and that's okay.

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I've done that with doctors. I've done that with counselors.

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I've done that with mentors. I've done that with supplements.

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You know, people get really antsy about medication and things, but I'm like, I take vitamins.

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It's a tool.

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we're not going to get so tripped up about...

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It doesn't... Here's what I'm not saying.

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It doesn't mean it doesn't affect us. I'm trying to give us permission.

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It's okay to be affected.

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You're inhumane if you don't have emotions.

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It's part of God's beautiful design for us to experience this world,

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and even at times experience Him.

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I experience the Lord through my emotions at times, and it's beautiful.

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They're just not the leaders,

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and so we don't have to be stuck in a place of depression or sadness or grief forever,

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but when those emotions show up, we need to recognize they're a signal.

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We need to ask some questions.

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We need to make sure we're submitting it to our spirit-led selves,

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and if we need help, that's usually wisdom.

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It's often the Holy Spirit prompting us to do that.

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So what this looked like for me as a leader is who had a platform like that I can...

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That I was actually thinking about this week before everything happened,

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hey, I think I'm going to be jumping back in, and then this stuff happened,

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and it was a good check of mind and heart of like, hey, there's some things.

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There's actually a few other things I need to process first.

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I went to a local community, so my church has a women's prayer, and it happens weekly,

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so it was happening the day after, so it's at 630 in the morning.

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I'm like, I need to be there.

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I need to be with other believers.

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I need to not retreat and isolate myself.

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I'm not getting on social media.

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That's not going to be my first response.

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It's okay if it was other people's first response.

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You guys are in different places, a different journey, but for me, that was the boundary.

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My soul's not going to be able to handle that.

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I can feel it, so I'm going to be able to handle that.

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I need to be with other people.

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I need to pray.

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I need to pour in some prayer into the situation, into our local community.

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I need to be with other believers, and then we have connected with people who mentor us,

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and then we also are part of an online community, like Mastermind Robin's in that group with us,

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and we were able to process some of it there as well, and so that was important first in my journey,

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that I did that because traditionally, before I understood all this,

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my typical response was avoidance.

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Avoid people. Avoid headlines. Avoid connection, and that's not healthy,

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and that was my soul bleeding.

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Now I'm having conversations with some potential business partners,

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my husband, who is my business partner, about, okay, moving forward, I think there is public ministry

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on the near horizon.

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Some of those conversations are already in place, but I think it's go time, so how do we do this?

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And we're not going to get stuck in perfection.

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Like, it's happening.

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It's probably going to be a little bit messy, but what we're not doing is we're not letting crisis

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or chaos create crisis and chaos in ourselves.

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We're allowing crisis that's happening outside ourselves to produce more of Christ in us,

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and that's what that's looking like.

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And then we realize, hey, we've got people we've got to lead this week.

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There's a coaching call.

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It's going to be important not to ignore it.

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It's also going to be important to stay in the boundaries of what does this mean for those who are leading online.

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So here's what's great.

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I can't tell you, nor do I think it's a good idea that I tell you, what to post and what not to post.

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That's between you and the Holy Spirit, and I mean that.

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Like, I'm not like, yeah, but I really think you should do this.

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Like, there is an open-handedness here.

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And why do I feel so open about that is because we all see in part right now.

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So there's not going to be one pastor that nailed it on Sunday.

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I know that a lot of people had opinions about what pastors should and shouldn't be talking about on Sundays,

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and they were all over the map.

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But I bet you what happened is this pastor over here had a part of it,

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and this pastor over here had a part of it,

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and this pastor over here had a part of it,

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and this pastor over here had a part of it.

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And it's the same with those who are online right now.

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So I think that, you know, this person on this platform over here.

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here had a part of it. And the beautiful thing is you're going to get a part of it, too.

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You don't have to talk about what's going on, the specific situations that are happening.

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I'm just saying, like, how you show up, because that's another pressure that people have right

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now, and there's a lot of man-made pressure, even in the faith circles right now. You should

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be talking about this, or you shouldn't be talking about this, or... You guys get it.

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You're there, too, right? And we can't allow outside voices, even ones that we trust, even

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ones that are very thought-provoking, even ones that are theologically sound, we can't

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allow those to take a higher place in our heads and hearts than the voice of Christ

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himself, because he has predestined you with a very specific calling, and you're not going

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to miss it. You're already in it. There's people that he is bringing your way, whether

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digitally or around you, employees that you have in your business, children, spouses,

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aunts, uncles. There's already people in your sphere of influence, team members, fellow

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employees, and who you show up to be is who you're supposed to be. When we get this right,

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and you will, because you're spirit-led beings. Paul spends a lot of time at the beginning

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of Romans 8, and he talks about being led by the flesh, being led by the spirit, being

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led by the flesh, being led by the spirit. These are the consequences, being led by sinful

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flesh. These are the blessings, being led by peace. And what I love is there's this,

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and I'm trying to find the verse. So he says, where is it? Oh my goodness. All the lines

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are blurring. I'll find it. But it's basically like, but you're not led by the flesh, you're led

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by the spirit. So he's kind of setting the stage, and you're like, oh my gosh, where am I? I mean,

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that's what people do with the scripture. They're like, am I being led by the flesh? Am I being led

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by the spirit? And he just stops, and he's like, but you're led by the spirit. Just so you know,

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yeah, this is the bounce around, but you're led by the spirit. And that's what I feel about you.

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But you guys are led by the spirit. And the spirit's more committed to you than you are

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committed to the spirit. Because even in our weakness, we don't know what to pray,

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the spirit's interceding for us, filling the gap. We're not going to miss it. Not going to miss it.

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We are going to experience, I'm prophetically declaring this, we are going to experience the

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fullness of the knowledge and stature of Christ in our lifetime. We will. It's Christ's initiative

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before it's ours. There's always going to be massive, earth-shaking events that are happening.

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I don't say that to be dim and gloom. It's just, yeah, I mean, I'm just seeing Sally,

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I'm skimming a little bit and seeing like, yeah, when Princess Diana died. And we, the sons of God,

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are responsible for stewarding creation in those moments. I'm going to say something,

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and you can just consider it. I'm not saying you have to believe it. I've seen a lot of content,

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not from anyone here, so if you posted it, it's not, I'm not pointing it out. I've seen a lot of

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social media content that's happened during COVID. Usually when there's like something,

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when there's things that are spurred, like people say this. People that I love, people I trust,

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people that I like theologically submit to say this. And I'm starting to disagree.

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We're crying out to God to heal our land. We're crying out to God, we're begging God to come and

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heal our land. And they're usually source a scripture from the Old Testament, which is a

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beautiful scripture, but it's talking about when my people who are called by my name humble

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themselves and turn from their wicked ways, then I will come heal their land. It's scripture,

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but it is in a covenant that we are no longer living in.

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So Jesus came and fulfilled the law that people were under when that scripture was quoted,

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fulfilled the law on our behalf, gave us himself, made us new creations. The spirit that raised

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Christ from the dead now lives in us. He gave us Holy Spirit to be our helper, our helper, our

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healer, our protector, our savior, our savior, our savior, our savior, our savior, our savior.

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advocate, our comforter, our counselor, our guarantee. He said, I'm never leaving you nor

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am I forsaking you. He said that, you know, and then scripture disciples then wrote a lot. I'm

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trying to keep up to what Jesus said. Disciples like reiterated a lot of things as well. He said,

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in this world you will have trouble, but take heart, I've overcome the world with the

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implication that you have too. Even if you experience trouble, it's not a proof of defeat,

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it's just a proof of a broken world that you are called to redeem. He said, I'm giving them

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my glory. He prayed in John 17 that we would be one. And then he told the father he's giving us

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his glory. So what was quoted and accurately so in an old covenant that God gives his glory,

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doesn't give his glory to another. Jesus does give it to us because we're no longer another,

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because we're one with him. So we share in his glory.

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This is like, this is like brain blowing, right? Like, absolutely mind blowing.

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And then he commissions us to go into all the world and preach the gospel, heal the sick,

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and they will recover. So I don't think it's accurate anymore. First of all, I don't cry out

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to God. I don't beg God because he's my dad. So I don't have that type of conversation with him.

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My soul might cry out to God because my soul might at times feel like,

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like it's abandoned and alone. I have to remind my soul, no, we've been brought to wholeness.

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But who I am, Lindsay, in my spirit, one with Christ does not cry out to God.

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I do have conversations with him and I'm not asking him to come heal our land.

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And the reason is because I think the better prayer, the more accurate prayer in a new covenant

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is Lord, give me the wisdom and the boldness and the confidence and the right perspective

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that I am called to heal this land as your son,

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a daughter, son, son of God. I kind of use it because it's like a class of being.

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And it's not like Jesus was like, peace out. It's up to you now

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because he's never leaving us, nor is he forsaking us. And we have his spirit in us

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and we're one with him. He's in us and we're in him. So I'm praying from that perspective.

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Jesus is standing right here. I think that there is,

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you know, we're all, we're asking like, why does this, like, why is there violence still?

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Why is this happening? Or like, you know, and there's a, like, why is there COVID?

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Perhaps there's a conversation happening back where it's like, hey, Lindsay, why is there COVID?

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Hey, Lindsay, why is there still violence?

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Let's talk about that. Let's get some innovation from heaven. Let's get some strategy.

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We have to think bigger of ourselves, not just bigger of God. Jesus is the head. Okay. I'm not

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saying we are God. I'm not saying that we are above Jesus. He is the head. We are the body.

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Okay. He has preeminence always. So I'm not, I'm not getting, I'm not doing that. Please don't

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let the lines be blurred. He is who he is. But as we are, as he is, so are we in this world.

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We're not without a single thing that is needed to heal this land.

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And I'm using global land, not just America. All of the land, every nation, every tribe,

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every tongue will bow and worship. The Bible talks about the glory, the earth is being filled

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with the knowledge of God. The glory of the Lord is filling the earth. We are going from glory to

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glory and there's grace upon grace for that. This is not, we're not losing the war. We're

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not losing the battle. And I'm not talking about a political view. Unfortunately, some things that

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are kingdom initiatives, sanctity of life, identity, marriage, family, they have been politicized.

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And perhaps because the sons of God did not recognize who they were and did not take hold

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of that territory before the government did. We're learning to govern ourselves and we're

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learning to govern creation. And the tribes that we lead will be a part of that glorious inheritance.

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This is the expectation that we should have.

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You're not insignificant, even in moments like this, even when it feels like I have no control, this is happening in another country, or this is happening in the Middle East, or I'm not in politics, or I don't have a large influence, or your influence and your significance is sealed in Christ.

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It's not about a number. It's not even about a certain industry. It's about you believing you are who you are, learning to govern yourself, govern your soul into wholeness, and lead from the Spirit in everything that you do.

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And you're not going to get it right every time, and that's important to know, because there's grace for that, and we don't want to be people who live by trauma response.

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I know that I have failed to step out because of how things have gone in the past, and that's a trauma response.

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That's not being led by the Spirit. That's letting the soul lead me through a memory, a bad memory, or a trigger, or a pain.

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And those things are things that we should not avoid. It's things that we should process and heal, because in that we're learning to develop better relationship with ourselves, we're showing up more deeply connected, and we're able to then have better relationship with others.

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And I'm going to say this, because I think that it is a misunderstanding, is that, and when we do this, everyone's going to like us and get along.

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I don't necessarily think that's the truth, because that's not what happened when Jesus showed up.

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Tension was created.

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Some things needed to be broken down when Jesus came.

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Some things needed to be confronted, and not in a nice way.

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I think Jesus was always kind, because I don't think his motivation was ever transactional.

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I think it was always relational. It continues to be always relational.

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But we might have seen what Jesus did and thought, that wasn't very nice.

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Or how he responded to Pharisees and been like, oh, that doesn't seem very Christ-like.

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So, we have to allow the spirit to build a capacity in us to be misunderstood at times.

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And still be willing to show up and have conversations and coach and lead and love.

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We have that capacity already in Christ, and our soul is learning to receive that capacity on deeper and deeper levels.

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And to go back to what Holly said, because I do think it was so profoundly prophetic for where we are and where we continue to go.

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Personally, nationally, in your own nations and globally.

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We have to be willing to confront fear in our own lives and move forward in courage.

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So, see you later, Sally. I know people are popping off.

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I want to wrap up, and I want to just offer this, okay?

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Because I'm here today as your coach, and I just felt it was important to just coach you in things.

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But if you need a friend, if you're just in a place right now where you're like, I don't feel like I have anyone to pray with or talk to in my local sphere.

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Or I'm feeling a bit like I don't know who to reach out to.

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I do want to offer a friendship to you, and I'd be happy to get on a one-on-one call this week or next.

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If you're just like, I just need someone to process with or talk to or rant with, I want to offer that.

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So, if you'd like to do that, if you could reach out to Macy, and we'll get it scheduled.

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Because I don't want anyone to feel abandoned and alone, and I know that we're in different seasons right now where maybe local community feels a little bit absent.

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And we're feeling maybe just like we don't, or we just don't maybe feel the people we have in our local community we even know how to begin to have conversations or talk with.

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So, I want to make that available to you as well.

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This is a tender time.

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And if it's not for you, for certain events, it's like, I know there's a lot of things that have been happening in the globe.

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So, I by no means mean, there's no hierarchy.

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It's just what your soul is currently responding to, right?

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It's not like, oh, it should be this event, or it should be that event, or this should stir you in a certain way.

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That's not what I'm saying.

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It's just that this was something for my soul that got my attention, and I've been in a place where I've had to really come to a deeper level of self-governing this week.

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it was for me it might be something different from you and that's okay um but let's pray

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i want to pray a scripture over us um from hebrew no not hebrews um where is it first peter

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thought i was

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um you know what it's in my phone it's in my notes

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so

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oh my goodness why can't i find this i'm a little all over the place

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okay first peter 2 23 says this is talking about christ when he was reviled he did not revile and

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return when he suffered he did not threaten but he continued to entrust himself to the one who

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judges justly and so i'm going to pray holy spirit that you lead us and guide us in this truth

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of how to continually entrust ourselves to the one who judges justly when there's hate comments

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when there's misunderstanding when there's big world events that happen when there's intense

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personal events that happen lord teach us how to continually entrust ourselves to the father

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who loves us and judges justly who knows the end from the beginning even when we don't

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who always keeps us in the truth jesus thank you for coming to show us what healthy

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right relationship with the father looked like you are our head and you continue to be the model

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for how we should walk out our days here on earth we are made in your image we are not image

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protectors we are image bearers and there is so much freedom in that i pray for each coach here

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and uh and every leader in our tribe group lord that you would give us uh liberal amounts of

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wisdom this week just like your word says that if anyone asks for wisdom you give it so liberally

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so abundantly without finding fault i pray for wisdom i pray for strategy lord i thank you that

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you have entrusted us with creation to unlock creation from frustration and the glory that

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will do this will be revealed through us i thank you that in the days ahead there will be a continue

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resounding sound of the knowledge of who you are that the voices that are popping up on social

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and in digital spaces and in local places and in industries will be image bearers who know you

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and holy spirit that you will inform them on what to say and how to lead i pray for our leaders here

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in the u.s i pray for the leaders around the world that are leaving every nation even if they don't

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know you yet we call them into your light lord we call them into a knowing of who you are into a

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knowing of who they are in you we pray lord not for a revival but for a continual constant renewal

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based on the spirit who is living in us lord we do not have to live from you know peak news

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headlines to you know peaceful times and back up again about down again but lord we can live in

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constant peace knowing that you have empowered us to do your will and there is only victory

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in that type of life teach us how to govern ourselves well teach us how to be spirit-led

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and lord i pray that you would empower each of these leaders in their spheres of influence

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as they grow and continue to grow in influence you would empower them to be more and more connected

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with who they are and who they are in you i thank you for all these things with the authority that

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jesus gave me to pray these things and call them into existence amen all right we can talk more in

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tribe i'm happy to set up calls with you guys if you just need a friend to chat let me see know and

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we'll get that scheduled but we are praying we're covering you guys in prayer uh each and every day

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we think of you often and just know that you have what it takes you have what it takes all right

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we'll talk soon bye

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Everyone