Okay, awesome. Well, welcome, ladies. It's so good to see you. This is the, um, it's
already the end of September, September 30th. Goodness. Um, it's your phase two, one o'clock
live check-in call. Um, for those of you that don't know me, I'm Carla Johnson. I'm one
of your coaches here in last year, single in your phase two, the love story accelerator.
For those of you that do not know me, I was, um, I found Jackie five years ago. Um, it's
actually been exactly five years. I came through her program through Facebook ad on, um, through
one of her challenges, like her free challenges. And that's when I jumped into, um, her program
and did the heart work. And it took me through a journey for sure. And I been with her ever
since. So I am a success story. All right. Took me, took me a little while. All right. I did,
um, have the privilege and honor and blessing of finally having my husband find me. We've been
married now for two years at the beginning of this month. Um, we are blending a family. I have
a son, um, biologically, and he has two children, um, from his previous, um, marriage, their mother
passed away. So we have lots of blending, lots of different challenges that we're facing. So, um,
all big blessing. God is doing some incredible things, but heart work has been
at the core. And so I just, I'm thankful and honored and privileged to be able to still
be part of this program and be part of this community and, and be able to shed, um, my own
wisdom, my own experience and pour into you ladies the same way that I was poured into. So
just know that I've got your back. I'm going to be one of your biggest cheerleaders. Um, I'm also
going to let you know that there are going to be times I'm going to be having to rip band-aids off,
but know that I got you. Okay. And I'm not going to be ripping band-aids off.
If I didn't love and care about you and know that God is here to heal you. And I needed band-aids
ripped off of me. Trust me, Jackie had to rip a lot of band-aids off of me through those several
years. And even in my marriage, sometimes that she had to come and rip band-aids off of me.
Um, because truth be told, you're going to go through heartwork when you get into marriage too.
Okay. Um, especially if you're even blended families. Um, if you have kids or you marry
someone that has kids, um, Jackie always will, you'll hear her say, there's a reason that blended
rhymes with offended. She's not joking. She blended a family, um, her and David, they,
they had kids from previous as well. So, um, that's a little background about me. Um,
so yeah, I'm here to be your sister of support. Okay. Um, I'm here to be your, your wise counsel,
your wisdom here to be here to lift you up, but also to, to, to encourage you and to pour into
you. Okay. Um, I'm going to go over these housekeeping things. I've got a lot. So if
to write anything down, please do. Okay. Um, if you have questions in the house while I'm going
over housekeeping, throw them up in the chat. And if anybody that's watching the chat can answer
those for me, feel free to do so. And then once I get through housekeeping, I'll go and skim
through those. But if there's anybody that sees a question, cause I know I got some, some ladies
who've been here with me for a hot minute. Okay. So some of you ladies may already know the answers
to some of the new girls questions. So help me in the chat if you can. Um, and then I'll skim
through those and then we will dive into our activations and your questions and all that good
stuff. Cool. I got everybody. All right. There's 11 of you plus me. Perfect. Kim is here with us.
Fantastic. All right. Housekeeping. Okay. Already went through, um, ladies that are new here. We're
glad to have you. If you're watching in replay, we're always happy to have you here. Please do
your best to make it to a live call. This is the one o'clock Eastern. We also have eight o'clock
Eastern. If you can't make it, we totally understand. We will have both in replay,
at least try to come as to as many as you can before you shift over to the next phase. Um,
I really think that you're going to get more from it. If you're here live,
um, don't be afraid to ask questions because a lot of your questions will actually
we bring breakthrough for a lot of your sisters here.
I know that happened for me,
and a lot of my questions that I would come and ask
helped other sisters in the community as well.
It's how we build community,
and you open up,
and that vulnerability really, really does shift things.
So I just wanna encourage you to do that.
We also understand life is busy,
so we don't expect you to be here every week
or to come to both,
but if you can at least make it to one
and then maybe watch the other one in replay,
that would be awesome.
If you can't come to either,
do your best to watch both in replay.
The best way to do things in replay for me
is when I'm in the car driving.
Now, I live in the DFW area now,
and traffic is horrendous,
so I always have opportunities
to listen to stuff in the car.
So just, you know,
or, and I'm in car pickup line,
and I have to get there like an hour early
to fight all the car pickup parents.
Y'all, they're crazy.
So you have to be in line for an hour,
and then I sit there with nothing to do,
but listen to replays.
So that's that.
Speaking of replays, good news.
Supernatural Saturdays are back to being recorded.
Who's excited?
Sarah Shelton's excited.
Same is excited.
I know, we're all excited, okay,
because, you know, Jackie went on sabbatical.
We were recording those.
People were in a panic, like, where did these go?
I was even like, whoa, what did I miss?
So yes, Supernatural Saturday
was recorded this past Saturday.
So if you didn't catch live, y'all,
Saturday was recorded.
So go back and watch the replay.
It was so good.
Y'all, it was so on point.
I had it planned.
I was making breakfast,
because we had baseball started up this weekend.
We had tournaments.
I was at the ball field all weekend long,
and that's gonna be my weekends for the next five weeks.
And so I had it blasting.
So all my kids were hearing the good, like, words, too.
And let me tell you, there were so many things
that I was like, ah, my kids need to hear that.
So, so good.
So definitely go check that out in replay.
Another thing, we still have tickets
for the five-year anniversary party in Austin.
That is going to be on October 26th.
It's a Sunday night.
So I would love to see you all in person
if you can be there.
I will be there.
My husband's gonna be there.
I know Bethany's gonna be there.
Ebony's gonna be there.
Bethany's husband's gonna be there.
I think Renee, I don't know if Renee's gonna be there.
I don't know about that.
I don't know about that one.
I would imagine she would be.
But so many, so many women over the past five years
and men, we are all there to celebrate the five years
of this wonderful, awesome community that Jackie birthed.
And it's just gonna be a fun night.
So there is a retreat that weekend.
That retreat is sold out,
but it doesn't mean that you can't come on your own,
spend a few days in Austin,
connect with some sisters here in community,
maybe book a hotel, whatever,
and come to the anniversary party, okay?
If you can make it, definitely check it out, okay?
It'll be a lot of fun, I promise.
For anybody that's never met Jackie before,
like, she's a good time, y'all.
Like, she is a really fun time.
Really good time, her and David.
Always, always, always, always a blast.
So yeah, that information is on her website.
So JackieDorman.com.
So if you need tickets, that's where you're gonna find it.
Okay, one more thing.
No, a few more things.
In the app, and I think I said this last week,
but I know I got a few new ladies.
When you are replying to us coaches in the app,
so you've made a post,
then us coaches have come and replied to you on your post.
Instead of, like, and typically we ask you questions
or we want your feedback on, like, what we've shared.
If you would do us a solid and, like, do us a huge favor,
go and make a comment under your post
instead of replying to our comment.
We don't, for some reason,
we won't see your reply to our comment,
but we will get a notification
if you comment to your post.
I think most people are doing that now,
but I just want to give that reminder.
And Searshall, I did just follow up and I was,
and I apologize.
I was under the impression that Bethany had replied to you from your post a couple like a
week and a half ago. Yeah and I like I just saw she did not and so I did look that over.
I'm if you I'll I'll let you go first we can unpack it here. If you would rather wait and
have me reply to you in the app I'm going to let you decide how you want to do that.
There's a lot of things that we can unpack we can pick one thing and do it here so that we
can open the floor for everybody but I'm going to leave that up to you and then we'll go in
and reply to you as well on any of the stuff that we don't cover. Okay yeah I haven't replied because
I when I spoke to Bethany, Bethany said oh I will I'll go in and reply to her so I didn't
follow through to make sure that she did that my guess is she thought she did or got sidetracked so
I apologize for letting that go because I assume that she did so I want to make sure that we
address that so I will take you first today if you want to talk about it on here but I'm going
to leave that up to you okay because I don't want to put you on the spot if you don't want to be on
the on the spot okay you don't want to be on the spot okay then I will go in and reply to you on
the app does that sound good okay um so we'll do that um so yeah the ask ask the coach um I already
covered the if you didn't make the one o'clock or the eight o'clock call and then last thing
ladies I a lot lately a lot of ladies are not aware that myself and Ebony do we do take one-on-one
coaching sessions we do it is an additional charge it's not included with your membership
but I know lately a lot of ladies really do appreciate that so I do want to make sure you
all are aware that if you feel like you just need a little extra one-on-one time you can book 50
minute one-on-one sessions with us and it could be anything heartwork related dating situation
whatever it is okay it's 50 minutes of one-on-one coaching okay because on here on these these group
um coaching sessions that we hold we really can't deep dive and a lot of women do appreciate
if they really get a solid 50 minutes of that okay again it's an additional charge it's not
included with your membership but if it is something that you really feel like you would
benefit from then we do want you to know that it is available to you okay you can look on the resource
tab in the app and you can access our calendars in there okay and so um that is available to you
um so the charges for that is you can book a single session for 125 and then or if you know
that you're going to want multiple sessions we do offer a little bit of a discount if you book
three sessions ahead okay so again that all that information is in the resource tab it will direct
you to the website where you can see our calendars and then pick and choose okay
so just know that is available um but again like don't feel like we can't coach you
in the app or here in these group sessions like we're always here to do that okay but i know that
some women just really appreciate having a 50 minutes instead of just like a short 5 or 10
minutes or the back and forth on the app okay so that is available if if you need it okay um
all right that's all the housekeeping did i have any questions in the chat i think i covered the
questions about the fee for the one-on-one okay awesome people are connecting through
facebook that's awesome and ladies um i do want to i i do want to share with you i we as coaches
do get friend requests from you ladies and it kills me that i cannot accept your friend
request so know that it is not because i don't want to be your friend it is just a rule that
we have for our team that we cannot it kills me it pains me it frustrates me but i understand why
it's there but if anyone has happened to ever friend request me or ebony or any of us coaches
and we don't respond to you please don't take
offense to that, like, it's just a requirement that we're not allowed to, okay? So, we love
you. It doesn't mean that we don't love you. Trust me, I would love to be your friend on Facebook,
but we just simply cannot, okay? All right, I think I got everybody's questions, so that's good.
Good, good, good. Somebody's going to know birthday.
Laura, it's your birthday on the 26th? That is awesome, and you're going to be there
and it's your birthday. I love that, and I love that your birthday is on the 26th,
because I have a birthday on the 26th, but it's in February. I love the number 26, so that is
awesome. Perfect, perfect. Kathleen, you tried going to the single cities group on Facebook
and asked for a code and posted the question. Okay, Kathleen, where are you? I know you were
on camera. That answer to your question is also in the resource tab. Have you looked there?
If you go on the resource tab in the app, there is a document for single cities,
and it will have a code. When you go request it, there is going to be a prompt on the Facebook
group for you to put that code in. You will just type that code in. That is so
our moderators and admin that run those single cities know that you are a paid member.
I totally get it. I'm not sure I have done a deep dive into the resources yet,
but thank you for directing me there. Absolutely. Check it out. There is so
much information there. Definitely check it out. Sorry, y'all, I'm on this medication that
dries my mouth out, so I'm constantly having to put liquid. Definitely put that on your list,
Kathleen, to comb through that resource tab. It will be a lifesaver for you.
Since I'm on it, Carla, can I talk about, because I did do the single city and I have
the resources. I'm in the single city Facebook Dallas. Reading through the instructions on
Facebook, when you start out, it gives you all those things to look at. It tells you to also
join single nation, but I wasn't able to. Single nation is shut down, so we just need to update
that. Thank you for letting me know. I will pass that along to the team. Single nation and single
nation, we started in 2023, possibly. Originally, we opened it up publicly, but there was bots,
there was scammers, there was all this stuff. We had to clean it up. That's why now we require
people to be paid members in order to join that community so that it's a way for us to do our
best to filter. Now, when there's events, you can invite people that you know to those events.
We just don't want to open that group up to any person on Facebook, because believe it or not,
there are some interesting people out there that just want, I mean, y'all, some of the things,
because I used to moderate the Tampa one when I lived in Florida and I was single.
They would just join, and you could tell they were not faith-based. I'm trying to say it as
politely as I can, but some of their photos that they had were very revealing, and it was not
pretty. We had to just decide that the only way for us to do our best, because again,
we can't control who's in that group. Again, you all need to use your discernment. Just because
someone is in our program doesn't always mean that they've worked their heart work,
and it doesn't mean that they don't still have heart work to work on. I know what happens is
you're going to be like, okay, when do I get to meet men that have done their heart work? Ladies,
there's a lot of us women in here that blow through heart work, and they come to me in phase
two, and then they come into phase three, and there's still some heart work stuff that needs
to get sorted out. Same thing happens with the men. Some of the men still have some heart work
stuff. We all have layers of heart work. Just because we may have men in this community,
it doesn't mean that we can't do our best, and it doesn't mean that we can't do our best.
you ladies will still need to use your discernment
and not just assume that you know there's not things that God
will want to reveal to you okay.
And it doesn't mean that just because someone doesn't come through a program
doesn't mean that a man hasn't done his heart work. I was
actually on a call with a client last night
and she asked me about my husband and she's like well oh did your
husband go through heart work and I'm like well not through this program
but having get I was getting to know him
and pacing myself with him learning about him and I would see the
fruit that he was teachable he was
open to counseling he was open to growing as a person
his he was um yeah he was just coachable he was teachable
he was he was looking for ways just to grow as a person and I saw the fruit of
that as I was continuing to get to know him
I knew his stance on counseling I saw evidence of his counseling
and so that's how I knew he had worked on
his heart work just not through our program
he just went to a therapist okay so just because a man hasn't gone
through our program doesn't mean he hasn't worked on healing now it
also doesn't mean that there isn't other heart work that they need to work
on like my husband still has areas of heart
work that he needs to work through I have areas of heart work that I need
to work through that's what I've been doing for two
years and so but I know that me going through
my heart work is actually helping my husband and my kids recognize areas
that they need to grow it actually like me I was resisting me
doing my heart work because I was like they need to do their heart work
when really it was like God was like Carla
you do your heart work and they will follow
model the heart work model the heart work for them
be the model for that not because you know you want
he's like I want to heal you but through your healing
you're going to be able to pour into your family
and it's going to heal them as well and then you're going to heal like
I'm going to be able to heal you and I'm going to be able to heal your
husband I'm going to be able to heal your kids
and guess what through your family you are going to be able to pour into
other families and I'm going to be able to heal
even more families through your testimony
and your kids testimony and your husband's testimony
okay so that was holy spirit right there because I wasn't even going to talk
about that so thank you Jesus for that
so that's the single nation single city so there's no more single nation but the
single cities that is and so um love that you
are going to get connected in Dallas Daisy is the one that
leads that group she's a good friend of mine
eventually I'm going to get to one of those events
unfortunately my kid has always got tournaments and so I'm always around
Dallas all over the ball fields um and that's when usually events are
happening so eventually I'm going to get to one of
those so maybe I'll see you Sam
um okay so that's that I'm trying to get
through this as quickly as possible because I want to be able to take your
questions um activations for last week um
I prompted you ladies to you know spend some time just get ready
whether it's like a little mascara a little lip gloss you know
get out just just you know present yourself okay not because you need
to but it does just like lift you up a
little differently um and then I also again because we were
taking sabbath for that whole month um if you were able to find time at any
point last week or the month to find any sabbath if
anybody wants to to take 30 seconds to unmute and share
what you were able to do to find sabbath or what you experienced if you got
yourself ready unmute 30 seconds I'm going to leave
that space for you totally up to you cool
anyone
and I'm just looking through the chat so that gives you all a little bit of time
yes yes oh I'm gonna write single nation
and
been removed. So that I don't forget. How long were we dating before we got engaged?
It was very accelerated. So my story is very different. I don't typically share it often
because I don't want anyone to get a false understanding. But I want to say we had been
known each other for four months. But again, he proposed to me on my 40th birthday and he is a
year and a half younger than me. And he had been married previous. He was married for 11 years. His
wife passed away. So we were a little bit older. And I do think that when you get to a certain age,
there is a little bit of acceleration. But I wouldn't, I mean, again, we were long distance.
So there was, again, some differences as to why it was accelerated. And we didn't ignore
seeking the Lord. We weren't rushing things to a point that we weren't listening to the Lord.
Like we, like there was a lot of supernatural confirmation that couldn't be explained. Like
it wasn't like, Oh, like we were both crossing this at the same time. So that must be a sign.
It was never like that. It was, well, that was not like, that was weird. That was like a
coincidence. It would be like things that prophetically had been spoken to me years
ago that God had shared with me that made no sense would get highlighted. For example,
and I think I put ladies, I think go check out on the pin post under the all tab. I had posted
an example of my social media, like coming out of hiding thing. And I listed my three
non-negotiable. Y'all, my husband didn't have two of those. He lived in Texas and I wasn't
going to move out of Florida. And I was certain I was going to have another baby because God told
me I was going to have more kids. And if you look at my wording on that social media post,
God wasn't lying to me. I just misinterpreted what he said to me. So when I met my husband,
I went to the Lord and was like, God, like, I don't know. Like he can't, he doesn't want more
kids. He's had a vasectomy. And I used to, I, when I find out a guy that I was dating on a
first, second date, whatever, had a vasectomy. Non-negotiable. Bye. Nice guy. Y'all, I had to
go to the Lord with this one. I was like, for some, like, I need to, I'm like, Lord, I don't,
I don't know what to do here. Like, I, I kind of like this guy. He he's, he's really like,
he's got the three M's. Like, it's a yes until to know there are some things that I want to cut
and run for, but Jackie's sitting here just telling me to get off the ledge and just enjoy
and have fun. And I'm like, okay, but Lord, you told me I was going to have more kids. Like you
told me I was going to have more kids and y'all the Lord answered me right then and there. And
he's like, I said, you were going to have more kids. I didn't say you were going to birth them.
I was like, oh, dang, the Lord just got real with me. And my husband came with two kids
and y'all in my, in my post, my son really wanted a sister. He really wanted a sister. Well, guess
what? My husband had a daughter. I got a daughter. I wanted a daughter. I was certain my,
my son was going to be a girl. And then he wasn't like, why? And he's a blessing.
God gave me exactly what I needed when I needed it. But God knew that my daughter was coming in
a different way. And she is my daughter on purpose. And I'm her mother on purpose.
And it doesn't mean that we have an easy relationship right.
Now y'all, because we don't, we're blending.
She's been through some trauma.
She's almost 14.
We've all been through those preteen years, ladies.
We remember what it was like.
It's hard.
And, but I know God literally purposed us for each other.
So God, I just misinterpreted what God said,
but God came and delivered.
And then my other non-negotiable was,
I wasn't moving, y'all.
Y'all, I lived in Sarasota, Florida.
Like, it's paradise.
If you've never been there, it's gorgeous.
It's like one of the best beaches, okay?
Like, I'm a beach gal, all right?
I was like, uh-uh, I ain't moving.
I ain't moving.
And Jackie literally had to tell me,
girl, I don't think your husband is in your area.
But one of my things was I didn't want to move,
but the big core reason was because my son
did have a biological father that he did see
only every other weekend, for one night every other weekend.
It was important for me not to pull that away from my son.
He wasn't a super involved father,
but I never wanted to be the one
to keep my son from his dad.
Y'all, when my husband and I met,
three weeks and a few days later,
my son's dad called me out of the blue
to tell me he was moving out of the state of Florida.
That was supernatural.
That was God saying, you can move out, Carla.
I just opened the door for you.
I already got it figured out.
So it's not that you can't relocate.
I opened the door for you.
So that was God.
I was like, this is my non-negotiable.
I can't leave, and this is why I can't leave.
God's like, well, you don't think you can leave.
I've already got that in the works for you.
So I'm gonna supernaturally show you
that this is your husband.
I had no control over it.
Now, that wasn't the only thing.
I'm just giving you that as an example
of what supernatural confirmation can look like.
Okay, when we're talking about this acceleration, okay?
And I want to encourage you ladies,
when you start dating and you're moving through level two
and you potentially go into that level three,
do not get quiet in this community.
Show up, if anything,
you need to show up more in this community.
You need to come to your coaches
and you need to let us know what's going on.
We're here to walk you through the process.
We are here to help you see the blind spots.
We're here to help you see any red flags,
if there are any, any yellow flags,
and we're gonna help you guide
how you see those yellow flags
and if they're gonna turn green or red.
We're gonna walk you through any of the patterns
that your old patterns that might start surfacing,
because ladies, I guarantee you,
when you start dating, wounds are gonna surface.
Triggers are gonna happen.
Heart issues and heart wounds are gonna start surfacing.
God is gonna start wanting to heal
and work through some areas.
I promise you, not to scare you,
but to encourage you that you have a community here
that is here to support you
and you have coaches that have walked this
and we know what you're experiencing
and we are here to support you and guide you through, okay?
And that's why we take these calls.
That's why we have the app.
We want you to share this with us
because we will literally,
we'll be your cheerleaders.
We'll help you.
Jackie often says she's not only a matchmaker,
she's a matchbreaker.
We've had to tell ladies
and pull ladies out of some situationships.
Like, I can't tell you, there's been a couple times
I had to reach out to women and say,
look, I'm concerned for you.
This is a dangerous situation
that you're putting yourself into.
You need to go report this to authorities.
You need to go get a restraining order.
This is toxic.
This is an abusive situation.
I've had to do that before, ladies.
And it's, I'm not gonna lie,
it sucks when we have to do that
because sometimes ladies don't want to hear that.
But ladies, we will.
If I'm concerned for you, just know I am.
going to share that with you.
And if it offends you, that's okay.
Because what does Jackie say about offense, ladies?
Does anybody want to unmute?
What does Jackie tell us about offense?
Anger is hurt bodyguard,
so it's covering up an old wound that's toxic.
Yeah.
Offense is an N-word thing.
That means there's a heart wound there.
So if something us coaches say to you
and you get triggered or offended, that's okay.
Myself or Ebony, we're not going to take it personally.
You can let us know something that we said
like hurt you and offended you.
We'll meet you there.
We'll walk it through with you.
We will.
We're here to help you.
This is not just dating.
I know this is the dating phase.
This is not just dating stuff.
This is continued heart work.
That is what we are here for.
So I know sometimes like,
ladies come into this phase and they're like,
I miss heart work, can I go back?
Ladies, bring your heart work stuff here too.
That's one of my favorite things to do.
I love bringing and surfacing the heart work stuff.
Like there's nothing more like humbling and rewarding
and just like, I thank God in those moments
where I get to witness and be able to do
like to partner with y'all and see the breakthrough
that God does and works through in this program.
Like I'm getting goosebumps.
I'm getting goosebumps about it, ladies.
Like that is one of the biggest gifts from this community.
Is the healing that comes.
It's not just the, I mean, the husband y'all
is just the bonus.
The relationships that you'll build in here
and the healing that comes from this community
is life changing.
And it won't just change your life,
it's gonna change so many other people's lives.
Your family, your kids, people that you come
in contact with, it will change their lives too.
And that's kingdom, y'all.
And so we just want you to show up, be vulnerable.
We're here for you, okay?
Just know that, all right?
All right, I'm taking way too much time.
Good thing is, is I'm okay to extend time
by like 15 minutes today.
Just don't tell on me, I don't wanna get recommended.
I'm not supposed to go over an hour and 15 minutes,
but it'll be our secret.
For this coming week, I do wanna encourage you ladies,
and this is my last thing and then we'll take questions.
I know a lot of ladies in this community
really struggle with the online dating.
I get it.
I didn't enjoy online dating myself.
And so I get it, I get it.
I hear you.
I know online dating is not fun at times.
And so we do prompt you ladies to give it a shot
and we understand that there can be some resistance there.
And so this week, I really want you ladies to focus,
to share in this group this week, what are some new things?
Okay, and write this down if you need to.
What are some new things that you're gonna do this week
to get out in real life to meet new people?
Not just new guys, I'm saying new people, okay?
What are you doing to come out of hiding
that's different this week?
Okay, now for some of you, this coming out of hiding
is even gonna be scary.
Not only is online dating scary
and you're like, I don't wanna do it.
Some of you ladies might be feeling like,
I don't wanna come out of hiding.
What do you mean?
I don't wanna go meet people.
I'm an introvert, Carla.
Like people scare me.
I get it, all right?
If that's you, I'm gonna stretch you a little bit, okay?
Come in the app and share with us.
Hey, Carla, Ebony, this coming out of hiding thing,
I'm uncomfortable with it.
And let us know that you're uncomfortable with it
and let us walk this through with you.
We're here to give you feedback, tips, ideas, baby steps.
We're here to unpack anything that's holding you.
hostage of like this fear of wanting to come out of hiding. This might be an area
that the Lord is saying, hey we got to have some healing here. This is that
preparation in order to meet your spirit mate. Jackie always says, with every
promise there comes a process. This is the preparation period, not the waiting
room. We're not waiting, we're preparing. So these relationships and the dating
and everything that we're asking you to do will be a process that God will use
to prepare you for the marriage he has for you. Y'all it took me two years to
prepare me. I had to be willing to surrender and release this idea that I
wasn't going to move. And God's timing had to be right. And God had it already
taken care of. Because right when he brought my husband into my life, if he
brought him sooner, one my husband wasn't ready. My husband was making all sorts
of mistakes, dating women that were not good for him after his his late wife
passed. He was doing some unhealthy things. He needed to go in counseling and
work on his heart healing. And y'all if I met him any sooner I would have cut and
run so far. I mean I wanted to cut and run at first. But I wasn't, I wouldn't
have been ready. Even when I first came in this program I wouldn't have been
ready. I was in this program for almost two years. And it wasn't until a week
after Jackie had to be like, Carla just be open to a possibility of relocating.
I'm not asking you to move to a different country, just be open. And I was
like fine whatever. It was God's timing. And so finally when I was ready to
release it, my husband was ready to accept who God had for him. We came
into alignment and God opened the door. It was God's perfect timing. I had to
surrender the pen and it all worked out. I had to be prepared. My husband had to
do some preparation. I had to do some preparation. I had to prepare my heart
for the idea of not staying in Florida. God even had me purge my church. My
church family that had been going to for 10 years that supported me as a single
mom. When I joined Jackie's community she's like, there's pruning that needs to
take place. God gave her a word for us to prune things. And when God told me to
prune my church I was like, what? I had to prune my church I had been to for over a
decade who literally walked and supported me through one of the hardest
seasons of my life of being pregnant with my son's father leaving me
seven months pregnant for another woman, which I didn't find out about her until
after my son was born and they supported me. They stood by me and God
told me to prune them. It wasn't until after I met my husband I saw why because
I had to be open to leaving this family and be able to release them. If I was so
close to that church family and I didn't start moving myself back I wouldn't have
been ready to walk away halfway across the country and be open to going to a
new church and building a new church community. Does that make
sense? Like I hope all this feedback like again I know I'm literally taking up so
much time but I hope all of this is helpful and you're using as a resource
and it's giving you hope encouragement it's pouring into you. I really do I
don't I don't typically like to spend all this time I do always want to give
you all the floor because that's what we're here for is here to coach you. So
again if I took too much time let's hope that it was Holy Spirit and that you got
something from it. Lori I'm gonna hold you last because I know you and I can go
back and forth for a long period of time. I got Kim McKenzie HK sorry HK I don't
know your first name you'll have to tell me. You are my four that have your hands
up if anybody else has questions I will do my best to get to you. If you if you
don't get a chance to get to your question put it in the in the
app. Okay, and then share show, I will get to your response, I
will probably chunk it because there's a lot of things that I
was processing when I was reading through your stuff. And
so we'll take it in little bits. So just be prepared for that. We
won't attack at all. But I do think there's a few things that
God is highlighting to me to have us unpack together if
you're if you're cool with that. Okay. Awesome. All right, Kim, I
see you. I'm gonna let you go first. How are you?
I'm good. It's been a New York minute. I haven't been in the
12 o'clock class for a while, or the group. I've been going to
Ebeneez. And then I missed the last two weeks. And I am getting
over a little bit of a thing. So I'm sorry. So I'm not sure you
probably are. Carl is not really caught up. But anyway, so I had
a date. I'm getting ready to get my sixth date in. So I had two
dates with one guy. And then now that's gone. And then I'm
getting ready to have my fourth date with a guy tonight. So. So
the thing about this guy is he's, he's wonderful. He was
one of he looked great. He was clean cut. I was saying that all
the guys that I'm seeing on Facebook dating are just I'm
just like, I just can't like I just can't guys don't know how
to take a picture. And I know you're supposed to give him
grace. But I mean, I don't know. I just have trouble with that.
But anyway, so this guy popped up and I was like, Oh, now there
you go. And he had a nice smile. He looked genuine and everything
was great. But then I looked down and I saw his age and he's
he's I told I was in the evening class, but he's he's like 12
years older than I am. Okay. But he was. But he looks better than
most of the people my age. I'm just saying so. You know what?
And he had a genuine look to him. I'm like, I'm going I'm
going to go I'm going to go on the date. At least it's a date
like right. So but we had a great day. We had a lunch date.
It was wonderful. So then we went on a second date. So
anyway, I'm getting ready to have my fourth date with him.
He's amazing, like, amazing. So tell me things that you like
about him. Like what? Well, he I'm seeing the fruits of the
spirit. He's he's so patient. He I mean, he's, he's very kind.
He's he's he's just definitely mature and masculine. The only
thing that was holding out was the marriage minded and I
didn't know what to do. And so I just, I just, I just, I just
brought it up on our third date because he's a widow. Okay. And
I thought he's probably thinking, well, I've had my
marriage, I'm not going to probably get married again. So
I was like, I asked him what he was looking for. And he said,
Well, I'm obviously I'm looking for a long term relationship.
And I said, I said, Do you think marriage is something that you
would ever consider again? And he goes, Well, I don't know. He
said, you know, it kind of gets complicated at this age, because,
you know, he's lived most of his life. And, you know, we've all
accumulated what we have. And, you know, the financial end of
things. And I said, Oh, I totally get that. I said, he
goes, Why are you? Are you looking for marriage? And I
said, Yeah. I said, Yeah, I'm kind of done being the
girlfriend. Like, I don't. And so I said, So yeah, if it's the
right person and the right thing that Yeah, that's kind of
what I'm looking for. And he goes, Oh, so he just he didn't
really say much about it. And so he just goes, Okay. And so I
thought, well, I might have just, you know, knocked it out,
which is fine. And then I also told him, I said, I gotta tell
you something else. And he goes, What's that? I said, Well, I'm
not just doing this dating thing on my own. And he goes, What do
you mean? And I go, I go, Well, I said, I kind of a partner in
this. And he said, Okay. And he and I go, I go, Yeah, I said,
I can only imagine what he's thinking at this point. Oh, I
know. There's another like, you're, you're already married,
and you're trying to only imagine that's probably
he's probably
wild one. So I said, No, no, I said, so I said, the thing
about this is, I said, I was married and divorced, which he
already kind of knew. And I said, and I have just gone full
force into dating in my life, all on my own. And, and blah,
blah, blah. But I said, this time, I said, I'm involving God
in my, in my dating life. And I said, so God is my partner in
this. That's what I'm talking about. And I said, and I pray
about it. And I said, I want him to be here with me every
step of the way. And he goes, Oh, okay. And he goes, so he
goes, so I've got to, I not only have to get you to your
permission, but I also have to get I have to get his and I
said, Yeah, pretty much. Anyway, so I felt so good that I said
that because in the past, like I probably it would have taken me
forever to say something like that. So I felt like God gave
me the courage. I prayed before the date. I said, Lord, give
the words I need to speak, help me, you know, be authentic. I want to be honest. I just want to be
up front. And so he's still pursuing me. And he's, he's just been so good. And so the second, well,
my second date was my birthday, and he wanted to take me something special, someplace special for
my birthday. So at the end of the day, he asked if he could kiss me. And I said, I said, I really
would like to wait on that. And I was like, I heard my story, right? Huh? Have you heard my
story? I don't know if I have or not. My husband did the same thing asked on my first date. He
Yeah, that's great. Well, so he goes, I said, maybe we just need to wait on that a little bit.
And he's like, Okay, I don't you know. So anyway, so then, I don't know, we had a text or something.
And he said something about something about a kiss. I don't know. And I and I told him he said
Oh, I know. He, he played golf, and he got a 79 on his golf score, which is credible.
And I told him, I said, Boy, you maybe you could go on the senior tour. And then, and he said,
he was wanting to give me a big hug. And he goes, and something about it. He goes, I don't know,
maybe, maybe a kiss. He goes, but I got to wait and see the rules or something like that. And,
and so I said, like, that sounds like honoring yet he has a sense of humor about it. But
he's not. He's not pushing. He's not pushing. He's lighthearted about it. He's respectful about
it. Which I obviously clearly see that he's interested. Yeah, no, it's, I mean, it's,
it's been great. So I said, Yeah, well, I said, I'm definitely looking forward to that hug. And
I said, you know, that kiss will just, you know, we're just gonna have to wait and see about that.
But, you know, that's just gonna be it. Let's just wait and see type of thing. But
but anyway, yeah, it's just, I don't know, he's just been very intentional, consistent.
He's just showing me I well, Ebony had told me I told her the only thing that's holding me out
is the age thing. And I that was giving me pause. And then Ebony said, Well, maybe this is a gift
from God showing you what how you need to be treated. And maybe you know, someone else is
coming that will do the same. But I'm starting to get a little bit of feeling here. So it's like,
you know, and I'm like, I don't want to take this on too long. If it's well, here's the thing.
Like God hasn't given me a no, I pray about it. And I've not heard any no's.
It's a yes until it's a no. And you know, and I can imagine Ebony is giving you that wisdom to
help you kind of release and enjoy the process. My understanding is she's going to give you that
feedback. So you can kind of take that off your mind. Okay, it's like, look, we don't have to
about the future right now. Now, what Jackie will teach on, and you'll hear this often,
through the program. It's not about the age, it's about the season. Okay, this is again,
we don't give hard rules. It's more like guardrails. Okay, every person is going to be
different. For me, I was like, five years older or five years younger, but it wasn't a hard like,
you're five years, two months older than me, that was a hard no. Obviously, the age didn't really,
it was kind of there as a guardrail, but I was open to shifting if I needed to. Okay.
I was looking more for the season, where we were at in life. Okay, I obviously had
my son at the time when I joined this community was five years old.
Like I had a young kid. All right, I was in my mid 30s.
I was not opposed to dating like a 40 year old guy or even 43 or 44.
But if he already had kids that were grown, it was, we weren't going to be in the same season,
unless he was open to wanting to step in a role and go through that season of life again,
with a new wife. And again, I remember I wanted to, I wanted to have more kids.
So in my mind, I was like, I'm having more babies. So if he didn't want to have more babies, like
bye. So again, it was just matching seasons. And so it sounds like this guy is active. He's good
looking. You guys are clicking and like getting along us.
many levels, you're still, you're still like, this is a
fourth date, you're still seeing where these things are going.
Like, it's okay, if he's 12 years older. He sometimes it's
like, if he's still in good health, he potentially could be
in better health than some other men that are more your age that
are younger, especially nowadays, you never know. You
know, and so I will encourage you to continue to pace it and
just enjoy the process. One thing I want to highlight for a
teachable moment for all you ladies, I want you ladies to
take note of what Kim did here. She waited until that third
date to have that marriage conversation. She's not coming
out the gate to talk about marriage and faith, and a first
and second date. And I know some of you ladies are gonna get
feisty with me. But I don't want to waste my time. His faith is
so important. Like I want to marry a Jesus loving man. Well,
I get that. Okay, we're not saying that you don't. But it's
okay to reel that in and get to know the person and look for the
fruit first. And then bring that conversation. And so she waited
to that third date to feel comfortable enough to say, Yeah,
like, you're looking for long term. I'm looking for marriage.
Is that an option? She's not coming out the gate saying, Do
you want to get married? Are you looking to get married out of
the first date? Ladies, men will like cut and run, especially I
mean, they will unless they are marriage minded, like, but
again, if they're marriage minded and not a healthy person
and you're having that conversation. You don't want
that person getting attached to quickly to you either. Like,
hold those conversations once you've had a couple dates with
them. And again, if y'all are like, but Carla, I just don't
want to waste my time. Then y'all ask me the questions. Let
me know you're having those kind of feelings posted in the app
and we're going to walk you through it. Because there's some
there's some heart stuff that we're going to work on. That
tells me there's a trigger. There's an unhealed trauma
there. There's a there's something that you're holding on
to if you think I have to find out right now, if he loves
Jesus. God wants you with someone who's going to be in
alignment with you. It's about surrendering that pen and
trusting that Lord, the Lord God has that for you. He's not
going to he's going to he's your God defended and God protected.
He's going to let you know what you need to know when you need
to know it. He will. We don't have to rush that conversation.
I assure you, if a man is not aligned with the Lord, you're
going to find out probably before the third date, there's
going to be something that's going to get revealed. He will
either check himself out, he will ghost you, he will show his
true colors, something will happen. And if you're scared of
it, or you're afraid that you were in a relationship in the
past where you got blinded, then again, we're going to go back
and we're going to heal that trauma. We're going to go sift
out those lies. God is wanting to reveal whatever trauma put
that lie there. Okay, Stephanie, are you doing okay
with me? No. Do you want to unmute? Or do you just need a
moment to process?
No, I don't want other people's spot, but I'm
will you post in the app?
I'm working out what I want. Okay.
Yeah, go process it. And we'll walk it through with you in the
app. Okay, thanks. Okay, I got you, girl. That's what I'm here
for. All right, so hopefully that helps. So Kim, um,
well, the only one more thing I wanted to say was so the only
thing I did notice, um, I think he's, I, he was in my Facebook
dating thing, and he's on my my matches. And the other
day I was in there and he's gone.
So I think he got off Facebook dating.
So that kind of was telling me, I think he's thinking I found somebody I'm
interested in and he's very old fashioned.
So I think he's probably thinking, I'm just going to date her.
I, we haven't had that conversation and I, I'm not dating anybody else.
There's nobody that I've even seen an interest in right now.
Um, but I'm still on there and I'm like, we haven't, we haven't had the
conversation to be dating anybody right now, as long as you're pacing it.
Well, you know, as, and ladies, as you get into that level two phase and
you've, you start getting like four or five, six days in, and you're
showing like you are kind of gaining interest in sickness, person is kind
of rising to the occasion and you're seeing the fruit and you're having
and enjoying your time, you don't have to be dating other people at that time.
Like when you're in the beginning stages of phase level two, yeah, like we're not
putting all our eggs in one basket, but clearly like they're processing and
walking through this and that now they're, they're reaching that.
Now we're going to invest in this one person and see where this goes,
but we're not rushing it.
She's going to allow him to take the lead.
Okay.
And again, she, she threw out that there she's, she's, she's working
and reciprocating the conversation.
Okay.
And again, if you're unsure of where you're at, when you're dating somebody
and you're not sure when to have those conversations, that's when you come
here with us and let us know, and we'll walk you through that for everyone.
It's going to be different because it's just going to depend on your
communication style, your attachment style what you're experiencing,
what emotions are surfacing.
If you've got some anxious attachment, like we might, I mean, we might.
Shift you in one direction.
If you have avoidant attachment, we're going to shift you another,
if you're secure attachment, we're going to shift you in another.
So everyone's situation is going to be slightly different.
We're coaching the individual, but we also use these opportunities
to kind of coach the group.
Does that make sense?
Not one size fits all, but everyone can learn something from
everybody's coaching experience.
Makes sense.
Okay.
Um, I think I lost you.
You're welcome.
Sonia, were you on an HK?
She HK, did you have, do you have to leave?
Is that why you dropped off or you can't.
Oh,
I'm guessing that she might not be able to.
And I, for some reason, my chat, like stopped scrolling.
So I'm going to have to go read through those, which I will do right before I get
off so that, um, if you have to jump off, you can, but I will try to address these
before I sign off.
So if you want to watch and replay, I can do that.
So HK, if you are listening, just so you know, HK said yes.
Whatever question you had asked.
So she can't unmute if HK, if you want to type your question before I sign off,
I will answer it to the best of my ability.
And if you have to jump off, if you watch it and replay, I will do my best to answer
it.
And if I somehow can't answer your question, I need more information, then post it in
the app and I will get to it there.
Sound good.
And Sonia, I know you had your hand raised.
I want you to do the same thing.
I'm going to go to Mackenzie, then Sonia, and then Lori, because Lori, you and I will,
we will, we will take time.
I know we do.
All right, Mackenzie, short, brief, powerful.
Hey, all right.
Good.
Um, yeah, thanks for taking my question.
I'm going to jump into the coaching after I watched the replays last week and trying
to apply some of the things I learned.
Um, cause I had a similar story, someone in there where they, um, had some prophetic
words and then it kind of hindered them from being able to, uh, you know, pursue any
relationship for years and years.
Um, I have similar where like, I've had dreams of this specific guy.
Um, since I was in high school, I kind of ignored those dreams.
Then I got married, was married for 10 years.
And then the month after I got married, I started having dreams about the same guy
again.
Um, and I just named him Elijah and he has black hair in all my dreams.
Anyway, that's his name.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know if that's actually his name, but like in my dreams, that's his
name.
Um, it could be just.
This guy that you dream about, do you know who he is?
No, I've never met him.
I don't know if he's real.
I don't know if it's a representation of Jesus.
I don't know, but.
But the name Elijah is what you're associating him with.
Yeah, just maybe that he just has the gifting,
like, you know.
Yeah.
So I'm holding it all loosely.
I wasn't originally holding it super loosely, but.
I am getting to where I am.
Because I don't want to miss, like you said,
I don't want to miss God writing my story, what he's doing,
just because he has black hair in my dreams,
just because he's named Elijah in my dreams.
The core thing that I'm looking for
is that unconditional love, you know, that connection.
All my dreams, it's not like sexual or anything.
It's just like, we'll touch hands,
and there's just like this electricity that happens,
and understanding that we have, and care he has for me.
So, yeah, but I find that kind of,
I'm afraid of missing it, you know?
And so I've been watching the coaching,
and like, you know, we're dating for discovery.
And I did date, I did jump in the apps last summer,
and looking at my profiles from last summer,
I'm like, okay, the heartwork has helped.
Yes, it always does.
So I feel like I'm in a better place.
But yeah, I guess my question is just like,
how do you get in a good headspace
around like prophetic words,
and like promises that you feel in your heart?
But like, I still want to go through the process,
and I do feel like I jumped into this program for a reason.
So one thing that I learned in this,
what was a blessing to me in this program is,
you know, my background is, I mean,
I didn't grow up with, you know,
my parents are not like religious,
like church was like, we didn't,
I didn't grow up in a Jesus centered home.
Okay, like, I don't have that background.
God just pursued me throughout my years,
especially in high school.
Then I kind of went away in my, you know, 20s,
and then God brought me back.
And so I didn't have this whole understanding
of the prophetic until I came into this program.
And before this program, I was getting visions.
And I was like, I shared this sometimes with people,
I actually shared this with Jackie,
and even my husband, and he thought it was funny.
There was a time where I thought
I possibly had a brain tumor,
because I would wake up and close my eyes and be awake,
and I would see things.
And I'm like, clearly I have a brain tumor.
Like, this is so weird.
Like, I'm awake, and I'm seeing stuff.
So for years, that's what's happening.
I didn't, I was scared to tell anybody.
And so I joined this community
and like really started learning.
So I'm still learning this through this program and Jackie.
And so, but one thing that I remember Jackie sharing,
and just again, all the women that are in this community,
is again, like you said,
holding those prophetic words loosely.
And one thing that I've learned in the five years
that I've been in this community,
is it's important to always go back to God
and get more clarification.
I've learned through my years is that one time,
like I'll think I'll hear something,
but God will only give me parts.
And so then I go back later and He reveals something else,
or I misunderstood something,
kind of like how I shared about what my non-negotiables were.
I had a misunderstanding of it,
because I thought I heard it,
but I heard it in a different lens.
And so we have to take it to the Lord through His lens
and not always our own.
And so I love that you're recognizing to hold that loosely.
And so when you were talking,
and this is why I ask,
because before you even shared this with me,
and you were talking about this dream,
my first thought and when you were going to be done,
I was going to ask you, what's His name?
Because I thought you knew the person
that you were dreaming about.
And then when I was thinking that,
Holy Spirit's telling me, ask her what His name is.
And then you told me, without even me asking the question,
you named Him Elijah.
So I want you to sit with that.
And Jackie's done this, she did this with us early on.
on. Um, and I don't know if you've heard this before, like if you go back and listen, I mean,
I go back and listen to replays from her, like, and I feel like even on a Supernatural Saturday,
she shared, she shared this multiple times. I've heard this story multiple times, and I have a
pretty good memory. And so that's why I'm always able to recall many of the stories that she
shares. Like that's kind of one of the things that, um, even Bethany's like, you literally
can like regurgitate things that Jackie is taught on, because I will remember things that Jackie
said. Jackie was telling us about a dream, and it was a woman that when she opened the door,
this woman was pregnant and her, the woman's name was Joy. And then every time she would turn
around, the woman would be more pregnant. And the next thing you know, she had a baby in her hand.
And the next thing you know, she turned around and the baby was a toddler. And there was this
like exhilarated process. And it had to do with like birthing seasons and joy and all this stuff.
And it wasn't, had nothing to do with that woman, but it had something to do with her name.
So I want you to sit and take that name to the Lord and ask him to reveal to you,
what about the name Elijah speaks to you? And y'all, I'm not really great at this. I know like
Elijah is a biblical name and somebody in here might know the meaning of that. I know. I mean,
I know there's a strong meaning of the, of the name Elijah and I apologize.
He is God. He is my God. So Jah is God and Eli is like, yeah. Okay. Something like that.
So again, what is God wanting to speak to you through that dream?
He's wanting, again, you said, I wrote this down. Unconditional love and care.
It, it may be like, God is showing you that he has such love and conditional care
in the spirit mate that he has for you. Trust that God.
God's intentionally writing your love story.
And that's who he's designed you for. Someone that's going to have love and an
unconditional care for you. Unconditional love and care. He's created that for you because
that's his love for you. That's God's love for you. And he's again, ladies, marriage
is the perfect image of God. It's the divine and the masculine brought together
because we're all made in his image.
Adam was created in his image. And then he's like, something's not, not right there. He needs a
partner. So he pulled a part of him out of Adam and created the feminine. So in order for there
to be the perfect image of God, we have to come together in marriage.
So when you come to get like, that's what that creates there.
And so he's so intentional about bringing that together. He really, really is. And so
sit and pray on that, what God wants to show you there. And like you said, don't hold it loose,
loosely. Again, I know a lot of women would be like, that means my husband's name is going to
be Elijah. Well, that's not how prophetic words always work. I know when I joined this community,
we had one woman, you know, I think she had a dream or God told her like some name,
like a man named Michael. And even her daughters were like, Michael's your husband or something.
And then she met a guy and dated a guy and his name was Michael, but it turned out that wasn't
her husband. And it like, again, it was, he was part of the preparation for her, her husband,
but he wasn't her husband. Does that make sense? And so it's, again, it's holding that loosely.
Like we don't need to take things so literal, like doesn't mean that God can't be literal with us.
But I also, in my just, again, my five years of kind of experiencing with the prophetic,
which again, I'm no expert. Okay. I'm not going to say that I am. I've often learned that
it sometimes isn't so literal. And again, it's like,
just sometimes it's very subtle and God doesn't always release the knowledge right away. He'll
release it in part. You know there's a lot of dreams that I've had and visions that I've had
over the years that he's only let me know bits and pieces and then there's been another layer
to it like years down the road. He gave me a vision of the wedding date that I was going to have
but there were so many other things that that showed me which gave me the confirmation of
my husband. That was another thing and it didn't click until like after we were engaged and after
we got married and like I mean I was pregnant in this dream and I was like about to pop
and I was like okay maybe I'm gonna burst something on September 3rd like I saw a calendar
was September 3rd. September 3rd we were all around I'm like am I meeting my husband
and it didn't happen. In fact Bethany got married the weekend of September 3rd a year
before I got married and she told me your husband's coming and I'm like I don't think so.
Y'all it didn't dawn on me until after I got engaged and when we were planning our wedding
the time that my husband and I met was December 3rd when we met in person.
We got married on September 3rd which was nine months.
When you think of pregnancy nine months that didn't even dawn on me. God revealed that to
after we were engaged. I was like whoa like so there's times like we don't even see it right
away so I just want you ladies to be open to leaving that loosely and then again I'm not like
dream interpretation is just not a gift that I feel strongly that I have.
There's times God will reveal like interpretations of things where I will get a strong sense.
That's just not an area that I feel like I've really grown in or that God's had me focus on
but I'm sure there's something to do because you mentioned it a couple times there's something with
black hair. Again prophetically I have no idea what black hair has to do so again take that to
Lord. He might reveal to you something significant about black hair and again hold it loosely.
He's going to show you something and it might not be right away.
He might reveal it to you later down the road. Does that make sense?
Yeah thank you. You're welcome. I'm so glad that you came and asked your question. I love that.
Thank you for taking the time. Absolutely. All right Sonia then Lori. Sonia. Okay so my question
should be quick and I'm sure it's somewhere already. Does the phone count as a date or
does it have to be a video chat? I prefer the video chat is considered a date not the phone
call because you want to see because this way you're getting face interaction. You're seeing
someone's response to you and I only say that because there was one time that I did have a
video chat with this guy. Y'all he had like no shirt on and he was like walking through.
Yeah again you have to give grace to these men sometimes y'all.
And again what I will say like again this is again Holy Spirit you must be prompting me to
say this because I know before heart work I probably would have gotten really offended by
that. I would have probably been bent sideways so if that me just sharing that so anybody that's
watching a replay or is on with us live and you got offended by the thought that a man wants to
FaceTime you and they have no shirt on and you are so offended by that there's probably an area of
heart work that we would want to work through. Luckily I had been through some heart healing
so I didn't allow that to phase me. I was just like yeah I'm not attracted to that.
Where in the past I probably would have been or I wouldn't have seen that as like a
like a yellow flag. I would have been like I probably would have been attracted to that
but I was kind of like yeah no I don't I don't think that's like marriage material like three
the three M's and I know someone I think did ask that what are the three M's and that's mature
masculine marriage-minded but yeah I was like this guy doesn't even look interested in me
and y'all like it was it was at night because again I had a I had a child so I wasn't going
to FaceTime somebody when my kid was awake this was probably like nine o'clock at night and so
So it's dark and he's like walking around with no shirt.
And then I see him like, you know, pop a squat in his couch
and I see that you could see the television on.
He's watching television
while having a conversation with me.
His eyes weren't looking at me.
And y'all, this was the time when like Jackie would coach us
and we would come on lives with Jackie
and we would show up with like,
how to show up to a video call.
Cause this was like, this was the,
in the 2020 when I joined Jackie's community, okay?
So whenever the world was shut down
and everybody was doing Zoom, okay?
So some of the world wasn't opened up yet.
So people were having to do video dates, right?
And so we like, Jackie coached us to get ready
and put makeup on and do our hair
and show up with a nice blouse and have cute earrings on.
And so I showed up like I was gonna go out on a date
and this guy's walking around like with messy hair
and no shirt on and watching TV.
I'm like, I don't really like that.
Like that kind of stinks.
And so I will encourage you to count a date as a video chat.
Okay.
Thank you.
That makes sense and that helps.
Okay, good.
Glad.
All right, Lori, should we challenge ourselves
of how much time it's gonna take us to get through?
Actually, I don't really have anything to process
just to report.
I'm so thankful.
So we're doing a report, no question?
Do you have a question?
No, I don't really have a question.
All right, report and do you wanna do a time limit?
Do you think we could do that?
Oh yeah, just a few minutes is fine.
Okay, because then I'm gonna go through the chat
because I've got 42 new messages that I'm not looking at
that I haven't looked at yet.
I do wanna answer questions.
Yeah, I just feel really proud of myself that I am standing.
And the biggest thing is that I chose to trust myself.
Yes.
I chose to trust myself.
Instead of saying, did God say that?
Did God not say that?
Like just the word just stand
and then the fact that it came out as a book title
was such a big deal.
And so despite all the feelings that were circulating
around, it was really a lot of adrenaline,
a lot of attention, a lot of being liked and that's fun.
I mean, that's enjoyable,
especially with a really gorgeous guy.
But I'm really proud of myself that,
so I would say like this month of September,
this rest has been so profound for me.
It's not been perfect, but I'm learning to be like,
it's okay, wasn't looking for perfect.
So even that is like a big deal for me to be like,
I didn't go scouring to like replace.
I just literally rested.
And I like the things that are coming out of the rest
are so beautiful.
So it's not like I didn't ever go online,
but I just literally leaned back into the arms of the Father
when I'd have something come up and go,
oh, what is the question that's running through my mind?
That's the fear that God wants to speak to.
And I would just like pause into that.
And it's just been so beautiful,
not without pain.
It's been painful.
Yeah.
Not without anxiety,
but I am coming into a place of peace.
And instead of like putting,
kind of regrounding in the Lord of like,
instead of putting my faith in my profile,
or, you know, I love to show up.
I love to show up nice for myself.
So it's like, but beyond what I would normally do,
like, I'm not putting my faith in,
because I was always like,
I'm now back in Holland, Michigan.
It's a real conservative area.
And I'm like, I'll never find my husband in Holland.
I've got to go someplace else that's like, anyway.
Yeah.
But I've changed.
Yes.
And so it's like not putting my faith in Holland.
God could do anything.
I could meet somebody from anywhere.
Not putting my faith.
I'm putting myself out there, online,
as I have capacity.
I'm not making it my whole world.
Giving yourself grace.
Giving myself grace, pausing for heart work.
And like,
I just,
just kept on saying, Oh, like, just having this really big
belief that like, something profound was going to come out
of this rest. And what's come out of it is me finding myself
again. And I've been so blessed, because like, I've just felt the
Holy Spirit because like coming back here, is like a lot of
memories of like raising family. And so it's a full circle
moment for me to have gone out through California. Yeah,
ministry school, experienced a lot of healing, then come back
here, and was in a relationship, almost engaged, chose out of
that and came back and just trusted the Lord. And like,
it's been so, so painful. But now, it's like the just
standing is so profound. But he said, I felt a shift in the last
couple of weeks. So I was at a church in Grand Rapids, and I
felt to find a church here in Holland, to start to live here,
because I've been going to be just south of here going to
church in Grand Rapids and not really living here. And I just
felt to look again, when I looked at the landscape of
churches, I could not see anything. And I felt to look
again. And this last week, I landed upon the 20th
anniversary of a church here. And they have gone from being a
really great evangelical church to an on fire for the Lord,
spirit filled church. And I am literally so stunned that five
minutes down the road is this sea of all these spirit filled
believers that are really hungry for God. And I just I'm, I'm
stunned, like I happened upon this thing that was called
awakened nights. And it was three nights, I got there on
this their second night. And I came home, I'm just like, in the
world, Lord, like you are overwhelming me. Like that is
just so profound. And like,
no, what is can I say for a minute, I want you to soak in
love it there, ladies, like soak in that, like, just sit there
and soak in of what God is literally showing you right now
in this moment. Soak in that. If he's going to do that right
now,
into agreement with everything I need, is right here.
Yes. If he's going to do that in that moment there. Yeah. What do
you think he's got for your love story? Lady that ladies that
goes for all of you out of rest. Like, he's such an intentional,
loving father. Soak in his love and his consideration and what
he wants to bring in your life. Not just in marriage and in the
spirit, mate, but just all around you. Yeah. And Laurie,
like, I'm proud of you. Like, I'm proud that you're proud of
yourself. Because you're allowing yourself to just sit
and be with the father and allow him to orchestrate all of it.
You don't need to be in a rush for it. You don't need to work.
You don't need to you. This isn't a job. Yeah, he wants you
to sit and rest and enjoy his presence and what he is
bringing to you every single day. Yeah. And in that, he's got
it all worked out. And he's got a marriage for you. Yeah. And
his perfect timing, not ours. Ladies, remember that it's his
perfect timing, not ours. Yeah. So I'm starting to dream again,
it feels like full circle on textile business that I had
started up before I went through a divorce. I'm all
ladies. This is what the heartwork does. This is the
process. This is the preparation. This is why
heartwork is so important. Because these are the fruits
that you're going to see these are the things that make this
community so fruitful. And so I'm calm like this is this is
why we see the success stories that we do. Because it's that
process. Like you are starting to apply this heartwork in every
area of your life. Yeah. And you're walking through this,
like, that's what I wrote down. Like, you're naturally going
through heartwork process. Yeah, which is preparing you for
marriage. Yeah, which is preparing
for the gift that God is going to bring you when he's ready for you and your spirit mate to come
together. He's working all of this stuff out. Ladies, when we resist fighting the Lord and
wanting the control of our own stories out of our own fears and out of our own concern because we've
been hurt and wounded and we're scared and we haven't, you know, released some of this stuff,
and I get it. Y'all, there was so much. Even still, there's still so much that I have to
work through. And thank God we have such a loving father that just doesn't expect us to be perfect.
Thank you, Jesus. And also talking to one guy on eHarmony and I'm getting to experience what
um emotionally secure feels like. Embrace those men and they don't have to be your spirit mate.
I'm now dating for discovery and so it's so much less like this is the one. He's handsome,
he's grounded, he's um and just through his like he's worked at the same company for 35 years,
has people that have supported him for 25. Like I'm just some of the things that I'm noticing.
We message. They're a little longer messages but maybe a couple times a week. Yeah. And it's been
two weeks now. I don't forget about him but he doesn't consume my life.
Think he's attractive. And if you sell off like you're not gonna be
tore up from the floor up. No and this other one was like oh my word.
Value like what that person brought and what that person showed you and you can thank God. Thank you
for that opportunity just to connect with that person in that season of my life. Because ladies
like that is another thing like that I had to work through in this program. I was afraid of rejection.
Like I thought it had something to do with me. Once I worked through my heart work
and I had it go through this experience and really not take offense of when these nice
guys were just not my spirit mate but could really just embrace like what God was doing.
How he was using these men to bring healing in my life. Yeah. I wasn't hurt when it didn't work
out with them. And that you know ladies and like Laurie said it doesn't mean that it's not
easy. It doesn't mean that there's not some pain that happens. Like there is some healing that
takes place. Like I always think of you know if you've ever been hurt and wounded and there's
like think of an infection. You've ever had like a deep infection. In order for that infection to
heal like you sometimes have to cut open that wound and like literally like pull out the
infection. And y'all if you've ever had to go to the doctor or the ER because you have like
an infection under your skin because of a wound. That just it's gross. It's disgusting. It's like
and it smells. It's gross. Like it's nasty. They have to cut that. I mean that's kind of what
sometimes like I remember that's kind of what heart work felt like the first time I went through
it. I mean Jackie tells you in phase one it's kind of like scheduled heart surgery. Right.
There is a procedure. It's there's recovery time. It's it's not always easy. Okay. It just has to
worth it. And so you're going to go and you're going to pull that out and it's not going to be
comfortable. There's going to be a little pain that's involved with that. But once you remove
all of that infection all that disease then there's healing. And now that that disease is gone
that's when the healing takes place. Doesn't mean that there might not be a little scar there
and that there's not gonna be times that you know that might surface.
But God is going to use that again to mold and shape you and grow you and continue to work on
relationship. And you know and it will come up. It will come up in relationship. It will come up in
marriage. It comes up in my marriage. There's things that I thought I dealt with. And my kids
my my you know my bonus children. I don't really call them my bonus children. They're my kids. I
have three kids. But there's things that they've done that have triggered me and it's taken me
back to old wounds from like old boyfriends in my 20s.
that I thought I dealt with.
Yeah.
It's just a new layer.
Oh, that's me coming back here.
Yeah.
You know, going out to California to heal,
then coming back here and being with familiar surroundings
is another layer.
Absolutely.
Okay.
Yeah, it's good.
I'm gonna go through all these chats.
Ladies, if you have to jump off,
I know a few people jumped off, that's totally fine.
I'm gonna go through these questions
so that if anybody asked a question,
they're gonna come back to the replay.
I'm gonna do my best to answer them.
If you think of a question, definitely throw it in the app
and we will get to those.
Sarah Shaw, I will touch base with you.
We'll process, we'll probably do some back and forth
because I don't wanna, there's a lot of things
that I think we can probably unpack,
but I'm not gonna just dump it all.
We're gonna just pick it apart
and we'll just do it little by little.
Cool?
Stephanie, do you have a quick question?
Stephanie, how?
Yes, can you hear me?
I can.
Okay, one second.
I put this in the chat that I needed
to step away from my desk to say it, but,
hold on, go to the wrong video.
Hi.
Hey.
Yeah, super quick.
I think that I'm gonna graduate to the next phase.
Yay!
Come on.
Like, I remember my first call with Ebony
and just telling her, like,
she'd probably have to kick me out of this phase, but.
But I just wanted to take the time
to say thank you so much for your coaching
and all that you've been doing,
but I wanted to finish, like,
God was just really putting on my heart
for the month of September
that this is to be really intentional about Sabbath,
but then also really soaking into the season.
And since this is the last day of September,
he's just really been speaking to my heart
and saying, okay, all right, baby bird,
it's time to move on to the next phase.
Time to fly out of the nest.
Yeah, so I don't wanna go,
but then at the same time,
I feel like that push by Holy Spirit to.
Yeah, definitely be obedient to the Lord.
We're always gonna encourage that.
Stephanie, just know, Ebony and I are not,
we're still in this program, okay?
We're still here for you, okay?
We're in the app, we're in the Facebook group as well.
I do some, like, I don't do a lot of coaching
in the Facebook group in phase three,
but I will occasionally share something,
especially for the ladies.
Like, if you've been present here and I'll see something,
like, I'll say something in those chats.
I just leave the coaching for the ladies
that are coaching in phase three,
but don't think that I won't chime in and say hi to you.
I've done it a few times
and I haven't got reprimanded for it, so we're not far.
You can tag us.
What does that look like?
Yeah, what does that phase look like?
So, it's bigger.
It's a bigger community.
You'll have access to the Facebook group.
You'll also have access in the app as well.
So, the app doesn't go away,
but there's also an opportunity if you don't do Facebook.
You can tag me and Ebony in your post for Facebook.
I don't think you can do that in the app.
I occasionally still check back on the app
because I have access.
I just, I don't have admin,
what am I trying to say?
Admin things that I can do in there,
like I do in phase two.
I don't have approval of doing things,
but I still can see posts.
I mean, I can still obviously respond,
but I don't go in there as much.
But if you're in Facebook, you can tag my name
and I can see your post if you want to catch up with me.
Obviously-
I think someone just asked if there's a call or something.
I saw that question pop up also, if there's a call.
Those, it'll be under events, under your app.
So, you'll still want the app for all the events.
And sometimes, I'll be on,
sometimes I go on Supernatural Saturdays.
Sometimes I jump in on phase three events as well,
like when I can.
My husband and I, we've sometimes done the love stories.
Okay.
So, once a month or once every two months,
we'll bring in success stories
and do a whole session with a couple of people
that are married or engaged.
And we'll kind of do like a question answer session
with couples.
So, my husband and I have done that before.
So, those replays are in there.
So, you, I'll still be around and so will Ebony.
So, you don't have to completely leave.
We're just, you're not going to see us every week, but we're still accessible to you.
And like I said, if any of you ladies ever need a like 50 minute session coaching, like
you have access to us.
Okay.
So we're not, we're not gone.
We're still praying for you.
We're still cheering you on.
Yeah.
And we're just, I like, I'm like, y'all are my girls.
Like, and I always tell like Bethany and Jackie, like, don't think that I don't have eyes on
my ladies.
Like I do like my girls that show up on my calls and that I have poured into, like, I
always want to know how you're doing.
And I like when y'all like I'll get ladies that they celebrate when they meet somebody
and they'll post it.
I mean, y'all like, I will just have tears of joy celebrating y'all.
Like, I love it when I see my ladies from this group, because I've been coaching now
a year and a half, almost two years in this community.
And so when I see my girls meet their spirit mates, y'all like, I get excited and there's
still women that were in my community when I joined five years ago and they're still
in here.
And then when they get to celebrate, I'm like, yes, yes.
And I get to show my husband, I'm like, oh my gosh, this is one of my girls.
They met their spirit mate, you know, all sorts of things.
So we're not far.
All right.
So just make sure that you stay in touch and stay active in communities so that we can
pray for you, celebrate you.
And we, you know, we could be here to support you.
Yeah.
Thank you so much.
Good luck, girl.
I just want to encourage the other ladies, get the most out of it.
The bride activation that you did wrecked me and it wrecked me in a good way.
And it was that that helped me with the breakthrough with realizing that I needed to celebrate
myself and that I had trouble with celebrating myself, which was why I had so much trouble
with seeing myself as a bride, which then with this being my birthday month, it was
all connected with that.
So God was using my birthday month also as an opportunity for me to activate in that
way and actually plan and go through with doing birthday celebrations, which I haven't
done in the past because I dreaded it.
Not that I dreaded my birthday or getting older, but it was a disconnection with celebrating
and feeling celebrated, which had to do with daddy wounds as well.
So, yeah.
Stephanie, thank you so much for sharing that with me.
That means a lot.
It really does.
It fills me.
It just humbles me that, you know, when God speaks those things on my heart, like that
he is working, like there's a purpose when he puts those things on my heart.
And I'm so thankful that that blessed you and that healed you and helped you.
Like that just, oh, that fills me with so much joy.
And so thank you for sharing that with me.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you.
Are you, are you, are you going to Austin?
Are you able to go to Austin?
I'm going to try.
I'm trying to figure out how I can make that happen because I live in L.A.
Well, I'm going to try.
If you're going to be there, make sure you find me and say hi to me.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
Thank you.
Let me get through some of these questions and then we'll sign off.
Like I said, ladies, if you have to go, like, I'm not going to hold you hostage down here.
Okay.
I'm just doing this for anybody that wants to jump on the replay.
Sonia, you were wondering how long we were dating, that I noticed that he was doing hard work.
I kind of started picking that up within the first month through some of our conversations
because, and I will tell you, like, he, he kind of deep dived with me.
And that was kind of one of the reasons why I wanted to cut and run because he wasn't
following the advice that Jackie was giving us because he wasn't in hard work.
And so he kind of like shared some stuff that I was like, whoa, dude, like that's too much
too quick.
It was kind of why I was like, I don't know about this guy.
But again, I extended grace and just, again, like I put up boundaries.
I redirected.
Again, I was coming to community, expressing what I was seeing and hearing and what was
going through my head.
And Jackie's like, Carla, slow down.
Like, just go enjoy it.
Let the guy take you on a date.
So that was about how long I know, like it was, it was a little while.
So he was talking to me about the counseling stuff.
So when you were with your husband for 16 years, hoping, okay, for his heart.
yeah so yeah I mean that was just again I was just noticing that he was he was
open to doing that that was one area where again I needed to pace it and see
because he my husband did share with me how destructive and toxic toxic his
previous marriage was and that freaked me out because I was like I'm not
getting into a marriage with somebody that had an unhealthy marriage but
that's when I learned he was able to own his side of the street of it but he did
share with me like some of her stuff and I'm like she's not even here on this
earth to be able to defend herself so that's where I was like whoa but then
again just pacing it and knowing when to ask the questions and waiting to ask the
questions and looking for the fruit was super helpful so I hope that kind of
helps okay so I'm gonna try to do this without having to like jump sometimes my
scroll does that okay so Stephanie was blessed with the Sabbath I think that's
what she was grateful to confirm that God was saying to me okay gave me
January 25th was my b-day awesome she was sharing that okay perfect okay and I
answered your question about the phone call date yes thank you Sam yep yep the
video Naples to I think that might have been Florida I was commenting on you
Sarasota was a beautiful beach and I said so is Naples yes yes I've been to
Naples yep yeah I used to live there I want to go back yes and yes so then
Laura's talking about Orlando Disney yes it is humid Laura totally get that but
we I've been to Disney like a million times I love seeing a few a few ladies
follow Jackie like she just did the Disney World trip in Orlando for a
that was awesome to see all those pictures so again just always be
looking at that resource page ladies because we do trips Jackie will do trips
and I've been to Disney with Jackie and it is a good time like I tell you Jackie
is a fun person to hang out with her and David they're just wonderful wonderful
people yep Lori moved to the beach yep okay
Kathleen is asking do you have to leave the house I don't know if she's still on
Kathleen if you're listening to this replay I want you to come to the app I
want you to share with me what you mean by leaving the house is there something
that is causing you to not leave the house or is it a fear that you have that
you don't want to leave the house so help me understand that a little better
and we can unpack that some more in the app or on next week's call I think it
was in response to the activation about doing some new things that's what I was
thinking too yeah yeah so I just yeah I'm curious to know that so Kathleen if
you if you hear this in replay shoot me a message in the app under the ask the
coach so Laura a part of a local chamber of
commerce she's going to a ribbon-cutting that's exciting so again
she's gonna get out and meet some people probably network you know ladies
anything that is community like don't hesitate to go out to those things you
can meet a lot of people like work your work your you know charismatic you know
charm if you don't have it like practice it you know if there's a fear there
let's talk about it how can you start getting out of your comfort zone and
meeting people and striking up small talk with people I was telling my
husband this the other night I used to be a very shy person and he looked at
me he's like no you weren't I'm like oh yes I was I wasn't shy with people that
I knew like I had to be comfortable with them but I was 100% very very not
outgoing and very shy I said I had to grow in that he's still he's like no I
don't believe it because I will literally just strike up conversations
with anybody as long as I've been recharged because I am like an
ambivert I'm like I recharge as an introvert but then I'm like extroverted
to like you know be connected with people but I get drained when I give out
too much energy so I have to kind of be by myself to recharge so he stills like
I don't believe you I'm like trust me I was I was definitely very very shy as a
kid and as a teen
as well. Yes, I had to prune my church family. It was very difficult. It was even difficult
for some of my friends and community, like church community. Like, there was some wounds
there. Like, some people, they struggled with it. And, like, I had to work through that
with them. They realized that they would have gotten offended when I stepped away. So, there
was a lot of stuff that went on with that. Okay. Italy after college. Okay. So, I think
that was when I was talking about, you know, the women that we coach all over. Love it,
love it, love it. Yeah. Like, ladies, this community, we have so many people from so
many different countries. And just getting connected with the women in this community,
then when you are ready to go over to the next phase, like, honestly, like, you can
literally have a vacation spot anywhere. Like, when I was in this community, it was much
smaller, but I had so many connections with people all over the country. We had a woman
that was, lived in Australia, and she actually got married. She and her husband were Australian.
They flew to the United States, got married in Austin, Texas. It was about a couple months
after my husband and I got married. And my husband and I went to their wedding. So, like,
we're like, well, if we ever decide to go to Australia, like, we're gonna go visit them.
We were at their wedding. So, it's really cool. New things for your week, Sam. You're
awesome. Pearl, do you do a lot of homeless ministry stuff?
I'm involved with a group called Petunia House. They are a nonprofit that is designed to put
the lonely in families. And so, it's got a lot of people from different churches in the area
that are single of various ages. And they get together and do all kinds of things. You know,
and one of the things we're doing is helping a homeless ministry that's every Tuesday.
But we're doing it, we do only do it once a month with them. It's called Catharos is the group that
does the weekly. Okay. The reason I ask, are you going to be at the anniversary party?
No, I can't make it. Okay.
Austin, not Austin, Dallas, single city. When you get in there,
do an introduction post that I see that you're in there. I did. I have already. You have? Okay.
Well, I think following the instructions, I didn't do one separate from the directory,
I don't think. That's okay. Any of the events that you're going to,
let me know if you're in, if you're going. Yeah. The reason I share that is my daughter,
she has a calling on her life to start a nonprofit when she's older to do something with homeless
people. And so I really at some point in her future, I want to start helping her grow in
that and start getting her connected. And so I'm always listening for things to help her get
involved, because I think God wants to grow that in her. I think he's just, again, I think he's
orchestrating some really great things. My hairdresser was telling me about this idea.
And I was like, that was not by coincidence, or that was purposeful. And so, and again,
she's my bonus daughter, and there's a lot of stuff there. And so I'm always just trying to
ways to bond with her. And so that's why I asked, because I'd love to pick your ear at some point.
Yeah, there's ways to get connected with that, with that. Yeah, I don't know, just to find out
this area. Like, again, I'm always just trying to look and see like, what can I do to help her
get plugged in those areas? Yeah, I don't know what age she is. But I know a lot of people
already is about to be 14. So I know she's a little young. So that's why I'm like, I'm still
kind of cautious with that. And like I said, like she's, she's going through a season herself. And
so but like I said, I just want to be open to what God is showing me and directing me. So that's why
I ask. Awesome. So then you're going to dinner with strangers. That's awesome. Friday's lunch
with a new girl from church. I love see, I love it. You're just getting yourself out there and
like, that's what this is.
all about. Like, it really, really is. So that's awesome. My husband, men in age groups,
seem hesitant to go on dates. Okay, so Stephanie, I know she's probably going to reach out to
me on the app. If you're shooting for 120 and above, or 12 years is no big deal. Okay,
I literally had a guy who was 16 match with me on Christian dating and asked, Okay, right out
the gate. Do you want kids? This was before I was coached on about Yes. Yeah. Again, just waiting
on those conversations. Yeah, totally, totally get that. He wasn't gonna wait, he was 60 years. Sam,
he was 60 years old. Yeah. That's weird. And he wanted kids of his own. Yeah, that's super weird
to me. Yeah, that's, I was like, willing to give it. Maybe it was a good thing that he asked you
so you could say, Yeah, no, thank you. And, and he could just, yeah, I'm telling you. Okay, but
then God defended and God protected for sure. Like God shows you what you need to see when you need
to see it. Trust that. Okay. And again, we don't have to take offense to it. We don't have to be
all bent out of shape about it. We can just be like, Okay, thank you, God. Just want to let you
know, I'm part of a prayer team out downtown Wichita on Sunday. And I prayed for a gentleman
80 years old, with a one year old. Wow, he had his whole family there. And it was like, Okay, and
I have a one year old, he goes, I need my heart cleared. I was like, not a problem. Lord can do
it. I've seen a new before. Here we go. You know, and it was like, and I've been I declared 120
over him so that his kid could have his father. There you go life. And then he also had, she was
about four, I would say four or five years old. Yeah, daughter. Absolutely. So he had a one year
old son and like a five year old daughter, and then he had older kids and stuff. So exactly. I
mean, that's what I'm saying. Let God do the miracles, y'all. Let God do it. Let God do it.
Absolutely. Amen. 100% Okay, yep. You said God's protection, not a man's rejection. Absolutely.
Yeah. And so again, you allow that opportunity to reveal something to you to go back and take it to
the Lord and get some healing. That's what I love about this program. And again, for the ladies that
are watching it and replay because I know I'm taking forever. Like, that's what this is all
all about. Okay, so HK is gonna ask her question in the evening. So I want to make sure I let Ebony
know. I'll reach out to Ebony here in a minute. Awesome, awesome. I love that Sarah shell like
your visions and dreams. I love that. I saw you kind of when I was explaining that like you you
got it. You understood it. Like that was just a whole new world for me. Like, yeah, God, Lord
strength of the Lord. God is Jehovah, my God of Yes, I love that. Thank you for sharing that with
Mackenzie. I have three sons and they never want to wear shirts or any clothes. Yeah, I need to do
my sons. Let's see. Yeah, when you prepare for a video day, and they are not. Again, you just learn
to just let it roll. Like you get it again. It's when you just show grace. They don't know what
they don't know. You know, they don't. So again, and we're not there to teach them and make them
feel bad about it. Exactly. Like, it is what it is. Again, if we can kind of look past it, and again,
that's when we we want to be fruit inspectors. Like, if they're patient, if they're kind, if
they're joyful, if they have love in their heart, like that's, that's the stuff that we're looking
for. Y'all like my husband did not know how to dress. I've changed that. Still not 100%. Don't
almost said that. But he has such a servant's heart. He really cares and loves people. He just
loves the Lord. And but he connects with people and he's not I mean, you wouldn't he doesn't.
Like this is the one thing like my husband when I first met him, I wouldn't think he was all in it
for God. Because he's just a real guy. Like, he approaches everybody and but
That's what makes him so awesome,
that he could literally just make friends
and just get to know people.
But his heart for the Lord is so beautiful,
but you wouldn't know that until you really got to know him.
And it's not something that he would just openly share.
Like, it was important to him,
so obviously in his profile,
and he was in a Christian Facebook dating group,
so I knew, but I didn't judge him
because he didn't show up,
because it wasn't like he was praying in tongues
and da, da, da, da.
We didn't have a lot of those conversations early on,
I just got to know him as a person.
And it's really awesome because even in marriage,
like when we're at church and I can look over at him
and I just see how he just honors the Lord
in new ways that I learn about it,
I'm like, how beautiful is that?
So I hope, like if anybody's watching this in replay,
like I know I often get women that are like,
first date, they just want to know
this man's on fire for the Lord
and it has to look a certain way.
Like, just, I want to tell you there's such a gift
and a beauty of looking at your husband
after being married for a little while
and seeing these beautiful moments
of how they just praise and honor and worship the Lord
that you never get to see
until like you've been married to them.
So don't like take that for granted.
Like, so anybody that needs to hear that.
When it comes to changing wardrobes,
it's amazing how many things shrunk after we got married.
Sorry, Lord, sorry, honey, it shrunk,
but I bought you these new things.
And you look amazing.
And it happened to my husband too.
And he's like, how is it all my stuff shrinks?
I'm like, I don't know.
He's like, babe, I gained some weight.
I'm like, honey, that's fine.
Like, it's totally fine.
Yeah, replace it with the good stuff.
We've been working on my health.
And so now that my health is like all in check,
because ladies that are hearing this,
like I'm in my forties,
perimenopause is a real thing that no one ever talks about.
So I've had a lot of health things.
I know y'all have been praying for Jackie
and all her health stuff.
Like that is like a thing.
So if you're in your thirties, your forties,
your fifties, sixties, like that is a thing.
So now I'm encouraging my husband
to get all of his blood work done.
Like we got my health hopefully now in check.
Now it's like focusing my husband.
He's like, I need to figure out this weight thing.
Cause he's like, I always worked out and lost weight easily.
And now he's in his forties,
weight doesn't come off like it used to.
And I don't care.
Like, I'm like, I didn't marry you for your looks.
You know, I mean, I think he's very attractive,
but I also joke that I didn't find him physically attracted
when I saw pictures of him.
And obviously like I married him
because I find him very attractive.
Not at first, it grew, but again,
I was attracted to the qualities and characteristics.
Like I'm very attracted to my husband,
physically, spiritually, emotionally, and always.
Like there is an intimacy that we have built over time
and it still continues to grow in marriage.
All right.
I still got a lot of these questions.
What is it about 12 years older that you're fearful about?
Yes.
So yeah, I think we kind of unpacked that.
Okay.
Got it, got it, got it.
Good, good, good, good, good, awesome, awesome.
I think I'm just trying to get through here.
Perfect.
Awesome.
Is there a call like this in phase three?
So Sam, good question.
We do have calls.
Jackie will do what's called love seats.
And so you'll have to kind of sign up
to be put in the love seat to ask her questions.
So those will be posted.
Anybody wants to get in the love seat.
And there is occasionally a time that like,
if there's not people signed up for love seat,
she might ask and people can volunteer themselves
for a love seat.
We also do, it's called Ask Jackie,
where there's a form in phase three
where you can ask your dating question
and Jackie will do a recording typically once a month
to go and answer all of those dating questions.
And she'll either do it live or post a video of it.
So it is very similar.
It is just a bigger community.
So if you've ever been to any of our prayer calls
or Supernatural Saturday,
you'll see like we have like hundreds of people.
So it is not as intimate as our phase two.
And so that's what makes this space special
and why we allow,
we don't like we have this space so that as you ladies are getting started on dating
it helps kind of get your feet wet so that it's not overwhelming and so that you feel
more comfortable in a very like quaint smaller community before going out there. Does that make
sense? Yeah and I definitely need it and you're probably going to have to kick me out. I get it
and and God will prompt you to like he did with Stephanie like and again we want to be obedient
to the Lord and and there's and that's the thing there are some really impactful powerful things
in phase three too that you don't want to miss out on. You don't want to stay in here forever
because there's so much good valuable content there too. I mean we do advanced heartwork in
there as well not that we don't do heartwork in here because I always try to always bring
things back to heartwork for you ladies because you're going to do that in marriage so that's
important like heartwork is never finished. I heard that you can't go backwards once you're
in phase three you can't come back to phase two or if you're in phase two and you feel like you
need to go back to phase one you can't. No no but we will do like whatever you need in each phase
it's there for you. So like women that come here and they want to go back to heartwork like
you don't lose heartwork you know. Ebony and myself we went through heartwork we've been
trained on heartwork you know we can still do heartwork for you. I'm just saying I've seen a
I saw a couple women. Yeah no I know because again it's like when I was there that heartwork is a
place like y'all I didn't start dating for a year after doing my heartwork so I get it like you're
like but no I don't want to go out there I want to stay in my cozy little warm blanket so we get it.
I don't want to date where I'm at because I don't I don't plan on staying here I refuse
to stay here you know so I'm like I don't want to lead anybody on I don't want to risk my heart on
you know yeah the good person but unless he's willing to leave this place.
Yeah no which again like you never again you never know what God will want to do does it
mean that there's not a man out there that could be you know in your town that wants to move but
again it's just that's how God just work in your heart and and whatever we need to kind of
back whatever layers we're just going to allow God to help you process that okay we don't have
to rush it it doesn't have to be overwhelming we're not here to freak you out. I've learned
my lesson from the past he told me no and I was like okay fine you will yeah I was like cool.
Yes so we're here for you we are here for you okay keep going yep there's definitely a couple
all right yep Stephanie they responded that okay yep Kim had to run awesome
oh yes Stephanie did do the Disney retreat I thought she I was like I think she was at the
and here he did it he just did it I didn't have to do it it just
like where'd they all go he goes they're not for the next season I'm like okay
there you go there you go all right I got through all the comments all right I know this went long
so those that stuck it out through the replay I appreciate it I do not typically go this long
but I did feel that Holy Spirit really spoke some good encouragement and so I hope that
um y'all got something really good from it and that you feel encouraged and um that you're feeling
lifted and ready for the week and we're praying for you and don't be a stranger come to app
let us coach you don't be afraid to be offended and let us know what offenses you have
we're here to work the heartwork for you we're here to kind of pull out the dross okay I always
love like God gave me this beautiful image of you know heating up the gold
purifying gold and getting it like it melts down and what happens is all of the impurities
float to the top so you can clear all of that out and it is the same vision like so beautiful
so don't be afraid of that okay I know at times it can be painful it can feel hot
like pressure like oh my gosh like I'm under the fire but God has
such a process that's so beautiful and you know we're here to walk it with you
there's nothing that you're going through that we probably haven't had to
walk through some of the same feelings emotions stuff okay we're here to give
you grace and understanding okay we're here to partner with God with you all
right so just know that we love you and we're here for you all right ladies have
a blessed rest of your week bye you next week