Hello, hello.
There's a reason you can't hear me because I was muted.
No worries.
I did the same thing to Rebecca when I first popped on.
So part of the fun.
Rebecca, did you say Angela was popping back on?
Yeah.
Should we wait a minute?
She was in the lobby and said, nobody was there.
I said, we're on.
So she'll be, she'll be back on, but go ahead.
Yeah.
No problem.
Lisa, how's your week been?
Did I open up a can of worms?
Well, let's just say God is teaching me things.
I got myself in a financial situation that I was concerned about last month and it hit
this month and then money that I've invested out of country, let's just say was the person
who oversaw the funds, the hedge fund is in jail, so everything's frozen.
So I've got 40,000 plus that I was supposed to receive two and a half weeks ago that I
am not going to receive anytime soon, if at all, is my concern.
So I prayed over it.
I was freaking out because I couldn't pay rent.
I put too many eggs in one basket, as they say, and I know better.
Um, so it's, it's God's lit a fire underneath me and I prayed over it and thank God above.
I applied for a loan at the credit union from Texas, where I'm from, and they approved a
loan for $10,000, which will pay, um, my rent for a couple of months and give me a little
extra.
I, uh, that's it.
So I've got to figure something out quickly to get income.
So why have you not applied for a job?
I have.
You have.
Okay.
I have.
Oh yeah.
I've been applying and I interviewed, um, but there's, it's like either I'm way over
the position.
They look at me like she's not going to stay here.
So I, I have to discern and I've been, I've got to pray over at Lord.
How do you want me to set up my resume?
Because I've got, I've got a boatload of skills and, um, project management, it things like
that.
But where I live here, there is no IT.
That is very true.
Yeah, that is very true.
I'm looking, I, because I, I want to relocate as just the, yeah, the heat is too much.
I, my, my health is not tolerating it well, the humidity and such here in Florida.
Um, and I just haven't connected with the right people other than yourselves here.
I get it.
Um, I'm looking to move farther north where it's cooler, not so hot, um, and a little
bit of winter.
I don't want a lot of winter.
Um, so I'm praying over it and looking at conservative states and, um, cause everybody's
like, Oh, Pacific Northwest.
I'm like, woke for me.
Sorry.
I can't go there.
I'm not going to get it.
Um, even though it's beautiful there.
Um, so I've got a few places I've written down and I'm been praying over and looking
for jobs online.
Huntsville, Alabama is the place to be.
I'm thinking because the, they just did a rocket city is going to be the space.
They're moving everything there.
So jobs are going to be abundant there.
From what I hear.
It's a very cool city.
Very cool.
And there's a lot going on.
Um, okay.
So you've gotten this plan together.
You've gotten a little cushion.
Um, do you have an idea on what that looks like for you moving forward?
As far as, am I like, if I were asked, if I were in this position and asking myself
these questions, am I going to get a job elsewhere and just move to that place for the job?
Or am I going to stay put, get some savings?
things, get myself together and focus on then going where I want to go.
Um, what is your heart telling you with that?
Well, getting savings, I don't have an income.
My goal was to have that $40,000.
Actually it's a, it's over $70,000 total.
And my goal was to have that and just go find where I want to live
because for six, you know, 45 years of my life, I've always worked
jobs that I don't really like.
So we've been in this position before also, I'm sure Angela has as well.
I'm sure Rebecca has as well, where, you know, we think that a certain amount
of money is coming in, or we think that, you know, this is the best thing that
we've ever done and all of a sudden it just crumbles at our feet and we
don't even know what happened.
How did we get here?
And so really God doesn't care much about the places that we have, the
things that we have, of course, the different things that we have in our
life, but it's about the lessons.
It's about your heart and it's about the people that you meet along the way.
Right.
We've talked about that.
So I would really be praying into God, what are you trying to show me here
so that this doesn't happen again?
Like, how did, how did we get here?
How did I get here?
Was this your will for me?
Was this something that I did on my own?
And what lessons, I know you turn everything for good.
So what lessons are you teaching me here in this space, in this moment?
Because we need to know, how did we get here?
Was it greed?
Was it get rich quick?
Was it, you know, a lack of, of discipline?
Was it, I, and I, and I don't know this in any way, shape or form.
I'm just, I'm telling you from my own experience, right?
Like this, these are things that came up for me, um, along the way.
Was it, um, was it that I wouldn't humble myself to just go with your will
and go with where you wanted me to be?
Because ultimately all of us know what his will is for us.
We really do.
And intuitively in our intuition, we really know what it is, but we have
such a hard time going with it because we're too worried about fill in the
people, money, um, tough conversations, uh, even, even, uh, uh, life or death,
you know, we're too, we're too concerned about those things, but ultimately I
believe that each and every one of us knows what his will is for us to a degree.
And we're just running the other way because we're too consumed
and worried about those things.
And so I would just walk in this space with complete openness for the next path
that you're the next journey that you're going to go on.
Um, it's at points in my life, you know, I've been to the point where I am just so
humbled, I'll put it that way, although that's a very kind of nonchalant,
lightweight of putting it.
I have been so humbled by God that I've told him, okay, literally, if you just
want me to stop what I'm doing and go get a job and not focus on online at all, not
even put any of my focus into social media and not put anything, just completely shut
it off.
Like that, that's where I'm at.
I got so frustrated with the transaction, got so frustrated with where I was at in
my business.
One time I was just like, God, you know what?
I don't even, it's not that I don't care about you and I don't care about the
people in my life, but I don't even care anymore where the circumstances, when you
get to that indifference around your circumstance and you're truly just like,
you know what?
I don't even care.
If I get kicked out of this place, I'll figure it out.
Like, I don't even care.
I'm just going to do what I need to do, whatever that looks like and focus on the
next path and then that's the next journey.
We've said this over and over.
I know I have, I'm sure Ray has as well.
It's amazing what shows up.
You don't do it for that expectation.
That's the key.
You really do get to that place, but it's amazing what shows up.
So.
I just feel like you're running from something you're running from, um, a
certain identity that you don't want to step into because you're worried about
in the blank. I don't know exactly what the specifics are, but it just seems like you're
really concerned about an identity that either you swore to yourself you'd never become or you
swore to yourself would never happen to you. And God is so funny. He's so funny. Every time I say
never, I honestly, I think every time he's been like, oh, yeah. Oh, really? I will never do this
or that. I will never live there. I will never talk to that person. I we will never be best
friends. Every time I I will never own that company. I will never take that listing. Every
time I say never, he's like, oh, really? Never? Uh huh. That's I got you here. I got you here.
I'm going to have some fun with you. So I think he's having fun with you so that you learn the
lesson. And just I love Graham Cook's question that he asks and he teaches us to ask, which is,
God, what are you inviting me into? What are you inviting me into? Whenever there's something that
scares you, that makes you nervous, makes you uncomfortable, he's inviting you into something
and he's right there alongside you with you, inviting you into it.
Lord, what are you inviting me into? Are you inviting me into trusting you more? Are you
inviting me into breaking my old identity off completely so that I step into who you are,
who I am in you and and I step into your nature so that all of this other stuff around me is just
not as real as you are. You know, all of these things can be answered from that simple question.
So from my perspective, and this is just my perspective, I think there's an identity that
he wants you to break or where you hold your identity. And so just curious on your thoughts.
When you said you're running from something, it hit home because when I left New York State,
where I grew up for 45 years and ran to Texas as quick as I could. Yeah, I was running away from
toxic family talk. Everything was, you know, I had recently probably
a year or two before I moved. I became born again. I found Jesus if 47 or something like that,
but it's beautiful. And it was cool. And I had always dreamed of living in Texas. So
in a way it was running away, yet I was so connected to him and I could hear God every
moment of every day. And I and I'm wanting that I do here, but I second guess it now.
Is that you? Is that really you? Because I don't know anymore.
And that's the part that's challenging because I want to fully rely on God in every part of my life.
And I'm just I tend to take control, which is not healthy.
Well, in Graham's words, he would say that you just stop wanting, stop trying,
stop focusing on why do I control and just be the new creation? Just be don't focus on the old.
It doesn't matter. It's gone. It's dead. And just be just being in the new, which is very
challenging, by the way, super challenging. And really, I just think keep leaning into
what you just shared. Thank you for being vulnerable and sharing that. I know that's
not easy, but just keep leaning into what you just shared in that. I always want to take control.
I'm going to lean into the new and I'm not going to focus on why that is or
any of those past things. I'm just going to focus on leaning into the new. And that's I feel like
with for at least my personal life, that's when he shows up the most when I when I actually
recognize that those aren't my thoughts. When I actually become self-aware that those aren't my
thoughts. I start leaning into how he sees me, the next path, the next step and focus.
focus on how that's just all a distraction.
Like all this that you're going through
is just a distraction.
And all of a sudden you become clear.
But you have to be self-aware
that none of those things are your own thoughts.
Does that make sense?
Absolutely.
And I've been over the past three plus months,
I've been recognizing more and more often
that all of a sudden these negative thoughts
come into my head.
And we talked about it the last time we met.
And I went, wait a minute, what the heck?
This is not my thoughts.
These are not God's thoughts.
And then I'll, what I used to do when I first got saved,
I'd yell out, get behind these, Satan, you got no,
and I'd be all the wild child, you know, rebuking,
which is good.
Yeah, and that's okay.
See, that's where I'm like, do I need to be more calm?
Because I see so many other people that are beautiful
and Christ-like, and they're so calm.
Like you and Rebecca were me.
I'm that like, get out of my face, I'm done with you.
So you don't need to be like anybody.
You are who you are.
And so I would just lean into
what feels right in your spirit.
There's a difference obviously between the emotions, right,
of what feels comfortable
and what feels right in your spirit.
And I've noticed that certain things that I do
feel really right for me in my spirit.
I know in my heart of hearts,
and it goes back to what I said
at the beginning of this conversation,
in that we really know in our spirit
what God's will is for our life,
because when we do those things,
or when we act that way,
or we live into that divine purpose,
we feel it.
We're like, yeah, this is awesome.
I may be failing at this.
I may be sucking at this.
I may be horrible at this.
This may be the most embarrassing thing I've ever done,
but also it feels so right in my spirit.
Like all those other things
are distractions of emotions, right?
But if it feels right,
like yeah, I'm actually joyful around this,
even though I'm kind of sucking at it,
that's when you get better.
He's honing you and making you become.
He's helping you become, right?
So the circumstances in your life currently,
and we've been there.
So again, I'm just speaking from personal experience,
because that's all we have really.
The circumstances in your life are a distraction.
It's all a distraction and a learning lesson.
At the same time,
he'll take what was meant for evil
and turn it for good, right?
So let him turn it for good.
Stop wasting time on the distraction
and all the things that happened
up until this exact moment, 10, 21 a.m. Eastern.
The stuff previously, it's all a distraction.
It doesn't matter.
Start allowing him to turn it for good.
And you'll be surprised.
It's something that pops up on your screen.
Maybe it's a job article or a posting advertisement,
or maybe it's a person that you haven't seen in years,
or maybe someone shoots you a text,
or just really, really start paying attention
and allowing, because I know the space that you've been in,
and you can't be present in that space,
and you can't allow in that space.
And so you've got to shift
from the fight or flight worry space
to the, all right, 10, 21 a.m. Eastern.
Everything previous to this moment was a distraction.
I'm supposed to learn something from this.
I know that, God.
Thank you for helping me trust you,
and I'm moving into the promise,
and I'm moving into how you're turning this for good.
And that waiting period,
we don't know how long that's gonna be,
but you're trusting in that waiting
that it's going to be absolutely beautiful.
And we talked about, you know,
whenever I'm struggling trusting God,
what helps me, which I don't know, honestly,
if this is the best practice or not,
but it's helped me, so I'm gonna share it,
is looking at worst-case scenario,
because it helps me become indifferent around the situation.
It helps me understand who I am
and get back to my true identity,
because I'm not as worried about the circumstance
or the problem or the old creation habits
that I fell into previously.
Now I can focus on allowing him to turn it for good.
Does that help?
Yes.
Yes, it does.
And...
Yeah, it gives me peace and just, just you saying 10, 21am Eastern time, I'm like, wow,
we got a timestamp.
It was like, it's, it's like it lit something up inside me going, yes, make that decision.
It's done.
It's finished.
That's what Jesus said.
It's over.
Love that.
Thank you.
Of course.
I know the big things are happening for you, happening for you.
Thank you.
And I keep in this, these are thoughts that come into my head.
I went through that.
It's a program Ray went through with, I forget her name anyways.
But they kept telling me I was a victim, like a victim and over the past, probably a week
to 10 days, I've been catching my thoughts as a victim and I'm thinking to myself, I've
been like this and I didn't even recognize it.
So that's a good thing.
That's a great thing.
Yeah.
And, and I'm like, I'm not a victim.
I'm, I'm a, I don't know what the right word would be, but I'm a child of God.
I am a brave, a bold and loving child of God.
Amen.
Own that.
Yes, I am a victor.
Victory is my name of my team in color street.
I love that.
You're, I mean, your story will be inspiring and incredible.
Yeah.
And that's, that's one thing Ray mentioned to me on Voxer the other day, when I sent
out the prayer request, he sent me a private thing and he's like, Lisa, think about it.
You've had 40 years to get here because I, I told him, I said, I keep having those negative
thoughts and saying, look at you, you're 62 years old and you ain't got a dime, no
retirement, you got nothing.
And it's, it's, it hurts.
Yet Ray, the way he worded it, just like you did Jessica's, I'm going to have the most
amazing story.
And it's not a get rich quick, it's, it's, it's a 40 year journey to, to get to where
God wants me to be.
And it's not your identity, right?
Like it's not your money.
So we put so much of our identity and money.
It's just, it's not your money.
Well, and I'm sorry to interrupt, but ironically you say that when I sold my house in Texas,
the first lady that came to look at it, she's like, Oh, your house is so well-maintained.
I'm like, it's not my house.
She goes, what do you mean?
It's not your house.
I said, Oh, this is God's house.
Everything I've have is God's.
And she went, wow.
And made an offer.
And I moved to Florida, you know, and that's how I really believe everything is his.
It's not mine.
I can't take it with me when I go, why would it be mine?
Yeah.
So we tend to, when it goes away, we tend to blame God, but when it comes, we tend to
just forget that that's who gave it to us in the first place, right?
So the same God that gives it to us can take it away and vice versa, right?
So it's just your identity isn't there.
And that's why I think there's something there that really needs, should be honed.
And obviously I don't know what that is, but I just know that you're just at the brink
of some really, really incredible breakthroughs that come from this experience.
You know, thank you for this experience because you're putting me in the furnace, God, and
I'm going to come out a stronger, more adaptable human.
And it sounds cliche, but it's so true.
I mean, I'm so grateful for all of those experiences.
They, I would have been an absolute idiot.
I would have been a complete, just total idiot, less compassionate for, for what you're going
through, all those things.
If I hadn't been through it myself, I wouldn't have been able to help anybody going through
it if I hadn't been through it myself.
So he's just forming your story and, and you're becoming, but yeah, it's not your identity.
You're, you're not even 62 years old, you know, your body is, but so what it's your
body that has nothing to do with how fast or how slow your acceleration, at least
monetarily is.
And so the same God that, you know, created.
It's billion dollar companies in five years can create negative bank accounts.
It's just, you don't know what this next journey is.
So Lord, what are you welcoming me into and get excited over this new, I mean,
he's really, he's given you a fresh start when you think about it.
When you, when you lose everything that you've, you know, you thought you would
be in this place.
And I listened to an incredible sermon from Stephen Furtick, um, about this,
but he said that the one thing that we humans always get wrong is when we say,
I thought, I thought it would be this way.
I thought I would be here by now.
I thought this would happen faster.
I thought, and that's not his thoughts.
That's not even your thoughts.
Those are the enemy's thoughts.
And so put, you know, those are being placed in you.
Like I thought that frustration I thought, and then you become more and more angry
and mad and, and then it's getting into that space and the second thoughts that
come into your mind that really help you to, to resonate and, and, and marinate on
those.
Those are the ones that you really pay attention to.
The second thoughts of when you start praising God and you get into his, his
nature and, and you become indifferent over the situation, those thoughts are
the ones to take seriously.
And that might help too, with some of the confusion that, that you're feeling, but
it's not your identity.
And the quicker that you recognize that, and it's not that you don't recognize it,
but the quicker that you live, live in that, you said, everything is God's.
Well, apparently not.
Right.
Cause we go step into that place of worry.
And I'm just, again, speaking from experience, not coming down on you.
I've done the same thing about 50,000 times, but I get it.
When, when I get into that place, I now I get it.
I'm like, oh yeah, I said this was yours.
Oh yeah.
I said my daughter after she got suspended from school the other day, true story.
Oh yeah.
I said, she was yours.
I'm not going to be embarrassed over this.
This is not, she's your child.
She's not even mine.
I love her with all of my heart as a human can, but she's, she's yours and I've done
everything that you've told me to do.
And so I can't tell you the difference she's made in the last few days.
Thank you.
And as I believe it is surrounding money in some way, even though I do recognize
everything is his, the skills I've learned, the gifts I have are from God.
Um, but it's something to do with money and it's, I'm not sure what it is.
It's, it's, well, don't try and figure it out.
Just walk in his obedience.
Right.
I think that's a lot of it.
I'm a solution finder.
I seem to think I have to figure everything out.
And I wrote that down this morning, figure it out was the phrase.
And I'm like, do I really need to?
I was actually, and, um, thank you, Lisa, again, for, for sharing all of that.
And Angela, I'll get to you next, but I was actually reflecting on this the other
day, something happened where, um, the, the, the family that rebuilt the twin
towers I've been working with.
Um, and I was trying to be super uber aware, like, you know, what we just talked
about, about just recognizing every little thing that's come into my, I'm
just really working on being uber aware of where God shows up because I don't
want to forget, you know, when things are going well, it's just instant.
It's like an instinct that we, we tend to, you know, praise him in the moment
and then forget, and I don't want to forget.
So I was really being hyper aware of how did this happen?
How in the world am I sitting here working with, I mean, there's
celebrities up in New York, you know, working with the developers who
rebuilt the twin towers and have done so much with New York.
I'm like, how did this even happen?
And reflecting on it, I was just like blown away.
I could, I could just go, go into tears over it because I would have never seen
that in a million years, the different things that have happened, I, I would
have never, ever, ever put that together in my head, ever, and, you know, something
would come into my, into my world.
and or someone and I just would blow it off like this is just a haphazardly thing that's
happening that I'm creating or that you know just going along with daily life that just happens.
This is just something that happens and I looked back and really connected the dots and found that
it doesn't just happen. You know, it doesn't just happen. It's incredible the way God works
and understand that you will never understand what's happening in the moment and until
one of the many promises that he has for your life is fulfilled.
So there may be somebody that you see at the CVS today, you know, that you meet and you don't even
understand why they're in your in your world today but they're in your world for a reason.
You will never understand it or figure it out until that promise that he has for you with
that particular person is fulfilled. Thank you. You're beautiful. Thank you. Oh, you're beautiful.
Angela, are you there? What's going on in your world?
Hey, everyone. Good morning. Good morning. So yeah, so just being still
waiting on God. Things can be really messy and God's got a plan and we're walking in victory
because this life is but a vapor and we've already won eternity and so yeah, so just
one of my favorites is Reinhardt Bunke and he, do you guys know who Reinhardt Bunke is?
Oh man. How do you spell it? Oh, don't ask me to say it. So I'm sure if I just look it up at all.
Okay. So he is the Billy Graham of Africa, Africa. So at age, he passed away at age 79,
leading 79 million people to Jesus. And yeah, he was a German who as a little boy was showed
through God that he was going to go to Africa and lead Africa to Jesus. And he ended his life,
life's days in Orlando. And when I found out about him probably three years ago,
because he died on my daughter's birthday and I thought my pastor knew him. Anyway,
I read his autobiography, which will totally blow your socks off if you ever want an amazing read.
But my heart's desire was I'm like, wow, I can't believe I didn't know him in life.
My eyes, you know, I so wish I could have even just honored him in death
and gone to his funeral. I don't know why I couldn't get that thought out of my head.
And as I read his autobiography, January 5th, I actually was on my 5 a.m. prayer line. And someone
says to me, Hey, the new person on the line, meet John. He's actually going to Orlando to
Reinhardt Bunkies Memorial in Orlando. What did he just say? So anyway, long story short is I got
to go to Reinhardt Bunkies Memorial in Orlando. So in his latter days, he wanted to film some of
his messages. And someone said, move to Orlando. They have the best studios. And that's where he
ended up there. But Reinhardt Bunkie had been meditating on what one of his famous phrases,
which is God's word in my mouth is as powerful as God's word in his mouth. And so the best thing
that I think that we all can do is get busy speaking out God's promises, because God is
not a man that should lie. His word will not come back void. It will go out and accomplish
all that's meant to do and no matter what the circumstances look like. And
perhaps you've heard some of this.
Um, I haven't. Yeah. Yeah. So I've shared them with Ray. He he usually keeps these calls very
private, even with me. Yeah. Well, bottom line is that I'm walking in victory and I refuse to
believe anything else. And I know I'm in the
right place in a lot of ways and you know God's word is yes and amen and so um yeah so excited
about you know what our church is doing we're just in Chicago and I um went there for three days and
our church was there for two weeks and we led 54,000 people to Jesus and um I personally was
I led 14 people to Jesus so um in the grand scheme of things those are that's the real
currency of heaven um and um money is just a tool and so um we've lost a lot of business and um
my husband just shared some things with me that have been really hurtful and um he's not he's
back as he can hardly walk and anyway he's um re-establishing his walk with the lord and um
just uh moving forward and you know we've got two bible students living here my son and his
best friend and there are nine well they're they're now 20 um they're on fire for the lord
and um about shaking nations and um the god god has given me so much through everything and so
um just standing on God's word because it will not come back void and um went to church last
night and this is kind of graphic but um the pastor said um uh because pastor Rodney's still
in Chicago went back to Chicago but um the pastor that was there said make sure you don't um commit
um you know spiritual abortion which basically he's saying you know we make sure that your words
are aligning and not you're not canceling what you're set out to do so um I'm I'm pregnant with
a lot of things I'm pregnant with um you know the the vision God has um for my life and my
family's life to really serve him and to see as many people come to Jesus as um you know God will
put in front of me and just wanting to be pliable and the lord and um this new company that I just
came into um you know my life in January from the Harbinians um which is a whole nother situation of
all that that's happened I mean Satan's a liar but um I know it's the I know I'm at the right
place at the right time this is science that um you know is off the chain incredible it's a 40
billion dollar industry and the only reason why people are taking probiotics and not
post-biotics is because simply marketing hasn't caught up with science and I felt like the lord
gave me a download of just how to take the team and move that forward to create a post-biotic
movement a post-biotic revolution to really educate people um on how post-biotics are the
product that probiotics always desire to be and so I I I probably have never been more confident
in stepping out and doing some Facebook lives than I ever have I feel like I just feel more
confident and more natural than I've ever been in my life I you know promoted Arbonne for 18 years
and it just never felt I mean I love the products but but this is like an endless supply of of uh
just things that I can I mean content is just like off the chain and it just it's inspiring
because you know people's limbs are being saved because this product actually increases
microcirculation all over your body so I mean what's not affected when you you know increase
microcirculation to your 10 billion micro capillaries so I know I'm in the right place
there um just really I feel a little bit of pressure to to produce for the cleaning company
we don't own it anymore and we've lost a couple huge accounts and that's a real big source of
income for us and um so um so I'm just you know we've been given the Fort Belvoir contract
and it's been taken away and we've been given it it's been taken away to the point where it's
and so um the guy um and the contracting officer says it's ours
and we're kind of on a race for a clock for one of our certificate certifications to you know run
out so they would you know actually award it before that does kind of like a red sea moment
I'm like hello um but I'm just um learning to rest in the lord and you know just like you said
you know this doesn't come through like lord this is on you like
you know. Do you really want to do a bunch of things for that company anymore?
You know, it's been really a blessing in my life. I mean, we, you know, it makes sense. I have huge
contacts there. I don't want to do a lot of things, but the little things that we do have been
huge, you know, huge money income for us. And so I, you know, think that it's wisdom to continue,
you know. So, yeah.
I get all of those things. And not that I don't, I disagree with you. I agree with you.
I, from what you've shared with me, obviously I don't know everything,
but from what you've shared with me, it sounds like it's been a huge blessing in your life.
But my original question was, is this something that you feel
is draining your energy every day or uplifting you and exciting you every day?
Well, I don't think it's really uplifting or exciting, but like the people God's put us in
contact with, I mean, it's been easy. It's been, you know, it's been, so right now,
if that would go away financially, it would, you know, not be good for us.
And so, you know, we're talking about like $30,000 a month.
Sure. Yeah. So I'm just curious if he's, if he's work, if he is working you out of something or
maneuvering you out of something that you would never choose to leave yourself.
Yeah. And that could be so. And I, you know, I would be all for, you know, stepping out of that,
you know, when this other company steps into the forefront, like a hundred percent.
And, you know, the, the salon suite building that we have, I just got to the point where,
well, actually a pastor told me, you know, Angela, you're not laying it down at the Lord's feet.
You know, you just need to totally surrender. And so one day I said,
okay, Lord, you know, it was up and running all these tenants. And then, you know, the,
this stylist flooded the whole place, you know, $80,000 worth of damage. We got it all backed
up and running, but we were having trouble renting it. And I'm like, okay, Lord, I give up
like this, this building goes down. It's on you. Like, and literally that night at service,
this woman texted me and said, I want to come check out your space. Anyway,
four beautiful Christian women rented the five chairs. That was the major part that was piece
that was missing to be rented in the salon. I have a couple more spaces that need to be rented,
but we're actually using them as presentation spaces. And so, I mean, that's been a blessing.
So. Isn't that amazing how we, and we've talked about this, but how we think we surrender. But
okay. Whatever you've got this, this is yours. I'm giving it to you. I can't take it anymore.
I don't know how to do it on my own anymore. And then amazing things like that happen.
Well, it's so funny because my son is such a gem and he came with me to meet these four ladies.
And, you know, we were always sharing the gospel, but this is, you know, and so before, you know,
they said, yeah, I think we want this, you know, we'll, we'll get back to you, you know, later on
today. And my son Joe goes, well, well, before you leave, there's something, you know, we ask
everyone. And I'm thinking, oh, Joe, maybe not quite so yet. And I never do that, but I'm, you
know, and Joe goes, you know, if you do, you know, that God loves you and has a major plan for your
life. And they're like, yes, we love Jesus, you know? And so that's awesome. Yeah. And I'm like,
you know, so they've been blessings. And so God is good. And we have an Airbnb there
that there's an evangelist right now, Eric Mears, that's doing some great stuff in Lakeland this
coming week. He's doing a revival and he's staying there. So, you know, I always open the Airbnb for
free to any evangelist or pastor, or if you and Ray ever want to come down.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
So, yeah.
So, just, you know, acknowledging him in all of our ways and being still, it's hard for
me.
You know, I'm definitely a Martha.
Oh, I think one of my hardest things, you know, I don't know if you ever took the Gallup
poll test.
You know, it gives you like the three things that you are.
And one of them, for me, is a maximizer.
And I maximize everything, like, if I'm watching a movie, I'm doing something else.
You know, it's like, I can't get away from being a maximizer.
And I think that has been my hardest challenge in really just being still, you know, I know,
I know, someone said work, human beings, not human doings.
And I, you know, it's hard for me not to, to be a doer, and to try to please everyone.
And so, you know, Joel is living with us.
He's my son's best friend that lost his leg.
He's going to, you know, Bible college.
It's like amazing.
But he got this new car, and I'm just trying to please everyone, they all wanted different
things to eat.
And I like, oh, you know, I'm just gonna go ahead and do it.
So I went and I didn't really go with the right attitude.
I'm like, these kids got to learn to eat the same thing, because I'm just I can't.
And so they drove back in and was pulling in, I called my son to help me with the groceries.
And I saw him and he kind of distracted me.
Anyway, I sideswiped Joel's new car.
I'm like, really?
Really, Lord?
Really?
But yeah, so I need to slow down and just be still and listen to him because he has
it all.
And yeah, just I, I can absolutely relate to that, that I'm I used to be and I'm working
on it every day, honestly, such a Martha.
And I, one day I was sitting in my bedroom, I don't know if I told you this, I was sitting
in my bedroom and I was just praying and really honing in on hearing from him and just something
that I don't practice enough, which is just, you know, I was in like my prayer closet,
just silence all around me, just really focusing in on prayer for a long period of time.
And I felt such a power of love come over me.
I felt his presence so strong.
And I know we've all been there, right, where you, you know, it's him.
You feel it so strongly.
And instantly in my mind, I started going into, you know, Lord, thank you so much for
these gifts and thank you for what you've done in my life.
Like, thank you for your presence.
I'm going to, I'm going to make sure that every time I go on stage that I mention you
and, and every time that I'm talking to somebody that I make sure that, you know, I'm, I'm
sharing this experience that you've given me because I was praying on some things that
had happened earlier that day and, and I'm going to do this and I'm going to do that.
And I'm going to make sure that I honor you in this way.
And it was so, such a strong answer that I know couldn't have been from me because I
just didn't think this way at the time.
But the answer that he gave me or the message that he gave me was this is no, no, no, no,
this is this love that I'm helping you experience right now that you're feeling.
This is just for you.
I just want you to be with me.
This presence is just for you.
I don't want you to share it with anybody.
I don't want you to think about all the ways that you're going to honor me in this moment.
I just want to be with you.
And I just, I, it just came on me a hundred times stronger, right?
So sometimes I feel that he slows us down because he just wants to be with us.
He doesn't want us to honor him.
Think about all the ways that we can honor him in that moment.
Not that he doesn't want us to honor him period, but he doesn't want us running on that rat
because there's a Christian rat race too, right?
Of like, okay, am I honoring you today?
Which not necessarily a bad question, but sometimes he just wants us to be with him.
And if you're like me, which it sounds like you are, that's a very challenging thing to
the way that I I'm wired, which for me personally, I don't know if this is, you know, if you can
this, but for me personally, that comes from my childhood past of having to control everything
because I felt so out of control because my life was so out of control with the way that
my mom had raised me and, and how crazy she went, I felt very out of control.
So for me growing up into an adult that translated into, I have to, I have to be doing something.
I have to be controlling something.
I have to be pursuing something to be a value and to make sure out of fear that.
this never happens to me again, that we never lose everything that we ever had
again, that I never don't go a day without a meal again, all the, you know,
all those things that come up as a, as a kid.
And so I've really learned to take an hour, which for me is like a decade and
just be and business just comes sometimes, you know, it just, it just comes and I
don't ever want to be seen.
It's another thing, you know, I think there's this culture of, we don't want to
be seen as lazy or we don't, you know, we want to be diligent with our hands, of
course, but sometimes business just comes if we're doing what God wants, which is
sometimes he just wants us to be with him.
And then.
Amen.
Yeah.
Well, thank you both for being vulnerable and, and sharing what's going on in your
world.
Um, I can't help but see, and I'm sure Rebecca agrees with me that there's a theme
here of surrender.
And, you know, I think, I think he's working on that and all of our lives in
throughout the last few years, right?
Because there are unforeseen challenges and things that are going to come our way
that we can't even fathom, uh, that we're going to need to trust him in a much bigger
way than, than what any of our circumstances are now.
And I think he's working on us for that.
And thank you, Angela, for, um, for the name.
I'm going to look him up and, and really start studying some of his stuff.
Sounds amazing.
And you're absolutely right.
Like just keeping his word on our tongue.
Um, I don't remember exactly how he put it, but that was really, really powerful.
Yeah.
God's word in my mouth is the same as God's word, as, as powerful as God's word
in his mouth, in his mouth.
So yeah, God's word in my mouth is as powerful as God's word in his mouth.
Yeah.
I love that.
We just need to send it out and not speak contrary because the devil minded man
receives nothing from God.
And so.
Right.
We don't, we don't, we don't take into account how powerful our words really are.
So that's just so such, such an incredible statement.
I love that.
Thank you for sharing that.
Um, but I'll just leave you today with let's really practice today, surrender,
you know, and just being with him and see what shows up.
For me, I like to make it a game, you know, I like to make it fun.
And I think he's inviting us into things every single moment of every single day.
And it's just, it's fun to be uber aware and hyper alert and watch what happens.
So I just so appreciate you guys sharing.
Um, and Rebecca, do you have any final words before we.
No, I was just really encouraged with this, you know, on, on Lisa, when you
were sharing too, I was thinking, man, I can relate so much to these seasons, right?
Cause we've all had them in various degrees.
And the times when I see God showing up the most is when I really get out of the
way, because, and Ray reminded me last week, he said, you know, we get to sleep
in the boat, right?
If the one who creates the storms and controls the storms can sleep through
them, so can we, and just resting surrender and letting him do his thing.
It's always worked out best when I just get out of the way and
trust him to do the heavy lifting.
So I'm just really encouraged and reminded.
Yeah.
This was for me as well today.
He's the fourth man in the fires.
Amen.
So, and I keep thinking of three and me that Graham cook talks about because
there's God, there's God, the son, Jesus, and the Holy spirit, they're all in us.
He, so we have the power to be them because they're there within us.
That's right.
And I think it'd be great if we just make a pact that it's hard to say, you know,
for seven days, but just for today, what today is Thursday, it's 10 57 AM Eastern.
That helps you, Lisa.
If we just make a pact today or just agree that.
we're going to take a 30 minute span today, at least, and just be in prayer. I don't think that
we might, you know, myself, I can speak for myself, I can't speak for you. But for myself,
I don't block out that prayer time enough. And so do you do both of you, all the three of you
have 30 minutes today that you could just block that out? Because I will promise to do that. If
you if you want to join me in that? Absolutely. Yes. Okay, awesome. Awesome. I'm going to report
back on in the group on on how that goes. And just give give to you guys what I get. And I'm
going to pray about everybody on the call to and and see if anything comes up. I love it. I've
me. All right, guys. Well, thanks so much for the call today. It helped me a ton. And hopefully it
helped you. And I look forward to hearing from you after your prayers. Thank you. Thank you,
guys. Have an amazing day. You too. Bye.