a year to be a part of, unless it's gone up, I don't know, but I think it was 15.
And so it's not, this isn't in the app.
It isn't somewhere you can download there, you know, and, but I did ask for permission
if we could, you know, run it with you guys.
We ran it with, so this, I've done it now, I've done it three times and every time it
was so powerful, you, you got to stick with it though.
It's it's late, it's, it's in a very purposeful format.
And so you got to stick with it.
You're going to, if you're like, like me, always like wanting to do stuff and always
wanting to, you know, get things done, you're going to want to be doing things during it.
Don't do it, like stick to it.
And you know, it's, it is about an hour and a half.
And so I'm telling you it's worth it.
I got some amazing takeaways.
My wife got some amazing takeaways and it's, I think it's going to be a very cool experience
for you.
I think it's gonna be really cool.
So I hope you can be on there.
And this is a total bonus.
This isn't one of our calls.
This is total bonus.
We just felt called.
We're inviting you guys and our faith and finance mastermind into it.
And it's going to be powerful.
So have a journal and you'll be good to go.
Cool.
Who on?
I mean, I think there's a couple of you, maybe possibly who on here is coming this weekend
to Fort Myers.
Any of you?
Okay.
Laura.
I knew Laura.
Okay.
Laura.
Got it.
Cool.
It's gonna be fun.
It's gonna be really, really cool.
Can't wait to see you.
So that's going to be cool.
And what else?
What else do I got?
Yeah, you know, I'll share, I've shared this publicly or not, I don't feel like I have.
I shared it at an event.
I shared it somewhere, but I don't think I shared it publicly.
I'll just share one of one of my God leading me stories.
That's kind of fun.
So I had a friend, a former client actually messaged me and he said, Hey, I got an extra
ticket to the Patrick, but David event, if you want to come.
And I'm like, okay, you know, for me, I just pray on everything, Lord, am I supposed to
go to this?
Do you want me to go to this?
I got a yes.
So off we go.
That was last week.
And so we get there and you know, there's like 12, 15,000 people there.
It's huge.
It's one of the bigger events I've seen and, or I've been to lately, at least.
And so I had to leave the event and do a two hour training for a team.
And so I go do the two hour training and then afterwards, I'm assuming I'm going back to
the event, but I pray, you know, cause I'm going to, I'm going to ask the question, right?
I don't assume.
And so I said, Lord, am I going back to the event?
No.
Okay.
What am I doing?
I'm going swimming.
Like, okay, this has to be me.
Like Ray wants a break or something like, come on.
And and so I got to go to the lazy river and I'm like, oh, okay.
There's all these people that I could be networking with, but I'm to go to the lazy river.
He's done this with me so many times where it didn't make sense.
I'm just like, sure.
Okay.
So my wife has thoroughly trained me after I failed at this many times to bring a swimsuit
everywhere I go.
So I have a swimsuit.
And so I throw the swimsuit on, go down to lazy river.
There's no one there.
I mean, there's just no one there.
So I, I walk in, no one's there.
Lazy river.
I sit down and within two minutes, a guy sits like two seats away from me and he is a smoking
drinking loud, obnoxious New Yorker.
No offense, New Yorkers.
I love you.
But this one very loud, very obnoxious.
And he's like, Hey, he's like, Hey, Hey.
And he's like, Hey, you, you, you here for the conference?
I'm like, yeah, I'm here for the conference.
He goes like, yeah, yeah, that conference, right?
We're here at the water park.
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, man, you know, cool.
And so I, you know, I kind of turn away and I'm praying, Lord, do you want me to like
talk with this guy?
And he's like, Hey, you know, he initiates eight, nine, 10 times.
And I respectfully answer, turn back.
I'm praying, Lord, am I supposed to like do something with this guy?
And and then he goes, Hey, and he's again, he's dropping F-bombs left and right.
Then he goes, Hey, do you believe in Jesus Christ?
And I'm like, yes, I do.
You know, now, now I turn.
Uh, he moves over to me and he tells me how he hurt his back and he got fired as a UPS driver.
And since then, he has no idea what the Lord wants him to do in his life.
Starts crying, a big, big guy, big, you know, full grown dude, you know, starts crying.
Totally.
Holy spirit.
I didn't say anything to make him cry.
He just starts.
It just starts moving them.
And, um, and he talks about how he's been day trading.
He had lost $230,000 and then the Lord helped him get up to $700,000, but he doesn't know what the Lord wants.
And so, you know, I pray for him and I'm like, God loves you.
He has a plan for you, man.
Just turn to him.
He's going to guide you.
You know, we exchanged numbers and we've been chatting back and forth.
And, and so that's why the Lord wanted me to go to the lazy river is for that guy.
And, you know, and I'm, you know, I didn't gain from that conversation.
I didn't make a transaction.
I didn't charge him for coaching.
I didn't get a tie that didn't get anything, uh, other than the pleasure of knowing I was doing God's will.
And, uh, and it was awesome.
And so I, I, I, the Lord knows I'm all in for that sort of thing.
You can ask me to go anywhere, do anything, talk to anyone.
I'm I'm all in.
And, and it's just a pretty cool.
Will I ever hear from him again?
I don't, I don't know.
No idea.
Um, but that's what the Lord wanted.
So it was pretty cool, pretty neat.
So let's get the party started.
So, um, just go ahead, feel free to raise your hand.
And, uh, I'd love to hear what's one win you've had since we last talked.
Or, uh, if we have never talked to what you're, you know, a recent win for you.
And, uh, what's the number one question you got right now that I can help with.
So we'll start with Amber.
Hi, um, my win is that I'm staying in momentum that, um, supports like my
family as well, to where I, I'm not feeling like I'm pushing my family off.
So I feel like at a, a balanced momentum and I've been, um, finally seeing a
little bit of fruit from all of the labor.
Um, so that's been exciting.
Um, I recently just did some interviews and, um, I was interviewing an author.
Like you suggested way back when.
And yeah, yep.
And I used a different, um, software, which I was really excited
about to get off of Instagram.
Um, so now I'm able to put that to my YouTube channel and
then do clips on social media.
My question is, um, I have all these different clips.
How do I space them out?
Do I do like one every other day?
I want every day, um, do them every once a week.
Like, how do I space it out on that particular interview?
And then also I'm doing other interviews as well.
And do I just, you know, do I weave them all in together?
Kind of, um, all those different clips.
Um, what is your take on that?
Yeah.
Um, I mean, I know I've had a lot of clients over the years that when they
went from, you know, uploading one reel or short or, you know, whatever,
what was the other term real short.
I think that's it maybe.
Um, or, or tick tock or whatever, when they went from like one a day to three a
day, they saw a massive difference in their following grow.
Um, and so, um, so there's, there's that, but it also, what, what I don't want to
do is, is give you some kind of cadence that you can't maintain.
Um, you know, so I'm not saying it has to be, you know, this many per day or
whatever, um, but I would say, you know, bare minimum one a day for sure.
No doubt.
No question.
Absolutely.
Um, but I think it's, I think it's fine to do two to three a day, you know,
of the same clip or not the same clip, but it was the same interview, like
clips of the same interview.
Like I'm just, and just make sure this takes, sometimes this takes a little bit
of effort and we have absolutely been guilty of this where we kind of lazily
throughout clips and where it's just like, you know, here's some clip from
the interview, you want it to, you want it to make sense and, and it may be best
to record a video introducing the clip.
And, and so for example.
Well, that is the better way to do it.
Do we have we done it every time in the past?
No, we have not.
But so you have you have this clip, OK?
And so what remind me again, what what's like the interview about?
So it's interviewing, bringing scripture
into her prayer over her special needs kids.
OK. All right. So.
What would be fairly simple, but powerful is if you recorded
and you could even do one intro and use it for all the clips of that interview
where you say, hey, this is Amber, and I interview and you would
you actually start with who it's for.
So you'd say, hey, if you're a parent of a special need kid,
this is really going to help you.
My name's Amber.
I interviewed this author on praying for special needs kids.
And here's a clip from that interview.
So that's probably eight to 12 seconds.
And then and then you would, you know, sandwich the clip there,
and that would be the clip a lot of times.
And we've definitely again, we've made this mistake where we just.
They're on a clip and it's right in the middle of an interview
and like, wait, what's happening?
And so like if you have a little intro that will actually help.
So you'll you'll see me.
I just started being more intentional in my reels.
And so you'll see me say, hey, if you're in sales, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Right. And so, hey, if you're in sales and you're struggling to follow up,
here's three tips or something like that.
You know, so I'm telling them right immediately.
Who is this for?
Who is it not for?
And and obviously the hope is that they stick around.
If they're in sales and so you would want to start with,
hey, if you're a parent of special need kid, you need this.
Here's what it is.
Here we go.
And so you're just getting that little that little intro bumper.
So if I do that, I don't really need to like strategize
on when I'm going to post them, really.
Like each clip that's about the same interview.
I mean, I would say, you know.
One, one to three a day.
And and I would test to see what is your audience respond to?
You know, does engagement die when you do three a day,
but it's better if you do one over time.
It's going to be better to do two to three a day.
But in the in the short run, you may not get as much engagement
per video if you do that.
And so I would play with that.
I think that's going to vary per person.
Like how many how many clips have you been uploading?
If the answer is zero, then I think it's okay for a while
to post one until you kind of get your cadence of what's
it going to look like long-term.
So like with me, so we have been doing like three clips a
day, but we were doing them pretty lazy to be honest.
Now that I'm doing a more intentional.
I'm for a while.
I'm probably just going to do be doing one a day because
I need to build my cadence to doing that particular type.
Does that make sense?
Yeah, it does.
Yep.
Yeah, cool.
And we never, you know, we never worry.
We want we never worry so much about the performance of
a clip.
We want to look at what is our performance over the month?
What is our performance, you know, long-term?
What is, you know, are we moving in the right direction?
And and also if you're making these clips, I would upload
them to the big four YouTube shorts Instagram reels Facebook
reels TikTok.
I would I would, you know, and you'll you'll have things
that blow up on Instagram that suck on Facebook and vice
versa.
You'll have things explode on YouTube shorts and stinks
on TikTok.
You just don't know.
So so you put those things out there, but we're never addicted
to one clip doing really really well because we just we
really don't know.
Okay, right.
Thank you.
But that but that intro will really help because most people
you got like two seconds to get their attention and and
if they're they're not oh, this is for me.
They're scrolling.
They're out of there.
So there's so many points in that interview where it's probably
not obvious.
Oh, this is for parents of you know, people with special
needs unless you listen for five minutes.
That's too long to ask someone.
That's a too big of an ask.
Great.
Thank you helpful and congrats.
Congrats being in momentum and every area.
That's great.
I'm on mute.
Hi everyone.
Hi Ray.
So good to see you and I'm excited about Friday and Saturday.
Okay.
I have a great God story and I was thinking what would Ray do
so I was at.
Disco, it was a long weekend, and with a few friends, and after a little bit, I was, I'm older,
so I went to sit, there were a few couches, you had to pay a lot of money to sit on a couch, but
there was an arm, so I asked this girl, do you mind if I sit here? She's like, I don't know,
so she was a bit of a mean girl. Anyway, I sat there, the guys didn't mind, and she kept dancing
and pushing her butt, so I would like move, but I wasn't moving, I was talking to people.
Anyway, and I just sort of ignored her, next thing I knew, she pushed me like really hard,
mean girl, young, pushed me, I fell into a couch in front of me, thank goodness,
but of course my whole body, I'd broken a finger, not broken, but I sprained a finger and
broke my beautiful manicure, so I was upset, but anyway, I kept getting a message, just let it go,
just let it go, I kept thinking, what would Ray do? God, okay, you're in charge. Anyway, I thought,
okay, I'm with nice people, I let it go, but all weekend, it just bothered me, like,
why did that mean girl push me? God, what did I do? I was just sitting on the couch,
minding my own business. Anyway, I did carpool for my adopted grandkids, and I thought, okay,
it was Monday, no, it was Tuesday, because it was a long weekend, I'm going to go to my nail salon.
So, I go to my nail salon for her to fix the one nail, and this woman is paying,
and I'm standing beside her, my girl said, yeah, no problem, Laura, we'll do your nail,
and the woman twisted her knee, and she couldn't move, and she was like crying, oh my God,
I'm going to Vegas tomorrow, what am I going to do? So, I have healing hands, I touched her
knee, and I get a message, give her your patch, I had a patch on the back of my neck,
so I said, I don't know, I have a patch on my neck, it should help you, it might help you,
she goes, yes, yes, please, please, so I put a patch on her knee, within two minutes,
the patch healed her knee, like, she could walk, she could bend her knee,
I just kept on saying, it's magic, it's magic, I couldn't even tell her anything
more than that, it was magic, but she ended up, she bought a package of patches just to
take with her to Vegas, so she could go the next day, but she walked out of the store,
and my nail girl goes, she goes, Laura, you were meant to be, because I kept saying,
I'm so sad, why did God, you know, why did that girl push me? She goes, because you were
meant to be here today, to give the girl the patch, and then the salon owner, it started to
work with the patches, too, so she loved it, so that was my good God story, so my question,
so my question to you as my coach, because I'm a gifter, I often gift my patches, and you're
sort of not supposed to, because people don't understand them, you don't always feel them,
and following up with people to say, well, how are you doing with them, and I get, well, I like
them, but I'm not interested in purchasing them, and so I had sort of committed that I would bring
more patches, and I get a message, no, you're not supposed to bring more patches, if you're not,
if they're not interested in gift, in getting them, why would you give them more? So what
would you say as my coach, to me being such a gifter, how do I stop gifting?
So two things, one is, you know, I know not, maybe not everyone operates this way,
but I'm, I would be praying on that, Lord, should I give this person something, like I, in one week,
I had two friends getting, this was a while ago, but two friends get in, they really messed up
their cars, right, they were fine physically, but they, their cars were messed up, one very close
friend, like top, you know, I don't know, five, six friend, and the other one is a guy from high
school, I did bring him, help bring him to Christ, but you know, I don't, I don't see him very often,
right, both of them in tough financial situations, and so I prayed, Lord, am I supposed to help,
you know, the close friend, no, okay, am I supposed to help this guy, yeah, give him a thousand bucks,
and so I'm like, okay, I don't know why, why, why him, not him, I don't know, and so,
so, you know, I did, and so one, that would be one thing, two is, I would, so we had a,
we had a CD, it was a CD, anyone remember those, but it was a, we had, we had a CD
that explained the business, so I was the number one income earner of this company,
and this CD kind of explained the business, got people excited about it,
and so you could give out this CD, people, if they listened to it, a lot of them would be,
you know, interested,
Okay, and so the but there was a process
okay, so I would if I'm talking to someone and
You know, it wasn't my only I wasn't a one-trick pony
But that was one method of exposing people to the business. And so, you know, I would say
If I felt like I'm supposed to give this person a CD, I would just say hey
You know, I have a CD that goes over this in detail
You know, I I mean I could give it to you but I'd have to grab it back to you from by Wednesday
Would you be able to listen to it by Wednesday? And so I really made it
Hey, I I didn't I didn't say this is the only one I have but I kind of insinuated that okay
So this is special. I'd have to get it back from you by Wednesday
Would you be able to listen to it before Wednesday? And if they said no I say hey, no problem
No, no big deal. Maybe you know, maybe another time. I would not give it to them and
And so they had to say oh, yeah
Yeah, listen, you know listen to it and then I would go into my trunk which had a thousand of these things. I
Would pull one out. They didn't see this, right?
I'd pull one out and I would you know
Go hand it to him and and I would follow up and make sure you know that they but they listen to it
so I had to make it special and
so it's
I do think sometimes
People
They don't have a process for doing samples or you know giving you know
Things away like that. So you just want to have a process and anyone say, okay
For example
Why so you probably okay. Someone's in pain, right? So right that's one way would be
Hey, you know, I have some patches I could give you I could give you a few
You know and see if it's something that you need to do, you know, you should be doing long-term
What level of pain are you at right now? Would you say?
So if we catalog the before and the after right so we owe you're at a nine. You're a nine in pain
okay, well, hey, you know what just this one's on me here, let's put this one on and
You know in your case it would you know two minutes later you'd say, you know, hey and are you feeling anything?
Oh my goodness. It feels so much better. Like what? What would you rate it a one?
Okay. Wow from a nine to a one in two minutes. Holy moly and and so it's just some kind of I'm not I don't
I'm certainly not the patch expert here, but
some kind of process of
Them of them realizing that this helped them
and because it's so easy so easy for
People to get help in some way and forget how they even got the help
I see it all
But I would you know what so one pray I would pray, you know
I mean if if he says hey give him a thing then I would absolutely give it to him
Right, you know, but I do I do think we should be good stewards of
This process and have a good have a good process
So I would even take a note. Okay, Samantha. She was at a nine and her knee then went to a one
Okay, you know, well, you know, let's make sure it continues to heal, you know, this one's on me enough, you know
You know if you're gonna be in Vegas for a long time, you know, she bought right?
So that was you know, the Lord just gifted you, you know that that you know interaction
But but I would have a I would have a process
Okay, so that when you're when you're following up, you're like, okay when we first talked you said that your neck pain was eight
You know, how is it now is it still the same or has it gotten any better?
You know what? I think it has gotten better. You have to remind them because they'll just be like, oh, it's better
I don't need them
And so you gotta have a process
Okay, a process of following up a process of tracking
Fair enough. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you got it. Awesome
It Tori
Hey, hey good to see everyone good to see you Ray, thank you again
everything
My win is I actually have gotten back into my follow-up which
I fell off the wagon for a little while
But I'm back into it and I've actually gotten some really good responses as well as some some really positive responses to reach out
So that's very exciting for me and I'm really excited to continue to grow my team
Awesome money. I have a couple questions along the follow-up line
first of all, I
Taught I reached out. This is brand new reached
to a lady yesterday and sent her our video that we share and she watched it
right away got back to me which never happens and said oh my gosh this is so
exciting how do I get started and I was like hmm so I mean you know God's
amazing he can do lots of things but I was like well that's awesome I said what
did you like best about the what the video that you saw and I'll need you
I'll need your email address can you share your email address with me so that
I can send you the instructions and she's like oh I loved it was so well
laid out and it was very you know easy to understand and gave me her email
address which looks legit and I said okay that's great I said I'll send the
instructions shortly and we kind of chatted back and forth and sent over the
instructions and she said oh thank you so much not nothing nada nothing so I
tried later on in the day saying were you were you on the phone with her no I
was on messenger chat okay so it was you know back and forth on messenger but I
mean you know she sounded real and her profile looks real so anyway um I had
tried back later in the day just sent a note saying hey I'm just checking to
make sure did you find that email that I sent over okay nothing and send another
message again this morning nothing so I don't know what happened is she seeing
your messages can you tell yeah I can see the little so you see in them pop up
yeah saying okay that it was seen yeah so anyway so my question I mean along
those lines you know what's that about but I know you said many times follow up
until they're blocked they block you or they're dead which I have several that
haven't blocked me of several that have but several that haven't and aren't dead
so you know but how often how regular do you follow up with them okay so a couple
things one I just have so little faith in them doing on their own anything I
have zero faith in anyone following up I have zero faith and me giving someone
instructions and them signing up and so if if I'm on messenger and someone says
amazing I totally want to sign up I'm gonna here's exactly word-for-word what
I would say okay typically it's a very persuasive word words that end in ly
clearly typically honestly usually you know there's a bunch of them and so
like typically we would just hop because hop we don't schedule a meeting and that
sounds way too formal we just hop we just happily hop on call so typically we
would just hop on a quick call and I'd walk you through the steps takes about
two minutes that's how I would respond every time to that kind of message every
time and now she could be full of crap right and she could ignore that that is
definitely possible but it's a lot of people it's like when they when they're
it's kind of like when they're at the cash register right and you're like hey
well you know to actually buy this you need to go outside the store you need to
walk two blocks and then you know and it's like when we give them instructions
when they raise their hand saying I want to move forward a lot of times
something's gonna happen because you don't know if she if she got off
messenger and then her kid was in an accident or she got a diagnosis you know
like we don't know what's what's happening you know we'll create in our
own mind that oh they had nefarious thoughts the whole time but we don't
know that we really don't and and so that's why someone raises their hand hey
I want to move forward well typically we just hop on a call and you know it takes
about two minutes and they may ignore that but we've at least thrown out that
easy button option so that's that's number one number two yeah you know Tom
Hopkins said you follow up until they buy or die okay that's his words not
mine but there's a way to do it right this doesn't mean just that's not a
green light to just send as many follow-ups as you want we want to be
strategic about it and and so if you've sent you know you know like three
you know so here here's if we go back a little bit here's how I would have
followed up and then I'll give you what I would do right now so
If I didn't say, hey, typically we just hop on a call
and it takes about two minutes, I'm happy to jump on.
If we didn't do that, and I said, hey, what's your email?
And I emailed them the process.
And then I say, hey, did you get the email?
And I see that they saw it, okay?
As soon as I see that they saw it but didn't reply,
I'm gonna, and also make sure,
is this in Facebook or Instagram?
Facebook.
Make sure, cause I have seen this,
where the Facebook messenger on my phone
is not synced with the Facebook messenger on my laptop.
And like sometimes there's a missing message or two,
like, you know, it's strange,
but I've absolutely found messages in my messenger
on my phone that just weren't on my laptop,
just weren't there.
And so just, let's just make sure,
we wanna double check,
make sure that she didn't send something and we missed it.
But if I see that someone saw it and they didn't reply,
all right, imagine,
you've probably seen my training on posture, right?
I talk about posture.
So, you know, posture is,
if they start pulling away, I pull away.
Now, most people, if someone starts pulling away,
they lean in, hey, why aren't you doing this?
You should totally do it, it's a no brainer, you know?
And so if someone pulls away, I pull away.
And so if I see that someone sees it,
I verify they did not reply, but they saw it,
I'm gonna say, and hey,
if this is no longer a fit for you,
just let me know so we can stop
sending messages back and forth.
I'm just gonna go there.
I'm not gonna say, hey, what about now?
You know, I'm not gonna keep pleading.
I'm gonna say, hey, and if it's no longer a fit for you,
totally cool, just let me know, no big deal.
Now, if they see that and they don't reply,
then I'm gonna drop, and this, I would only do,
I would do one initial one,
and then one 24 to 48 hours later.
And then this final one,
if I see that they've seen two of my messages,
they haven't responded either,
I'm just gonna say, hey, it was wonderful to talk to you.
I'm gonna mark you off my list
because I'm assuming this isn't a fit for you,
but I do wish you the very best.
And that's the one that eight out of 10 will reply to.
Seven out of 10, eight out of 10.
A lot of people will reply to that
because most people will never talk to them that way.
They'll just piddle paddle around the tulips for a year,
and they'll be the one that got away.
Like, I'd rather just let us call it out,
and either it remains in the same status
of you ain't moving forward,
or I FOMO you to get a reaction.
Yeah, and if you look at the chat,
Tony said, no one wants to send that,
especially the first time.
But when you see how effective it is,
you're like, hmm, maybe I'll do that more often.
But Tony said, I didn't wanna send that message,
and it did finally get a response.
That's just how it works.
And so, always have that.
And even that doesn't mean you have to stop messaging them,
but I would definitely delay.
If you send that one, and they don't respond to that one,
I would wait a good month or so,
and then just be like, hey, I know it's not a fit,
then I would do a deflection.
Hey, I know it's not a fit for you,
but do you know anyone that does want to, whatever,
save money, make money, get skinny, whatever.
Okay, perfect.
Does that help?
Thank you, yep.
Helpful?
All right, cool, awesome.
International.
What's up, buddy?
I think I'll see you this weekend, right?
Hi, Ray.
Yeah, I'm so excited.
Nice.
Coming all the way from the West Coast to see you, Ray.
Nice, that's awesome.
Now, are you staying a few days,
or are you in and out?
Well, we're pretty much in and out,
but if there's a reason to stay a few days,
we are flexible, so.
Yeah, yeah, I just didn't know,
if you're coming that far.
Where are you coming from?
Well, yeah, no, we're gonna go,
Shana's on the East Coast, Shana's in South Carolina,
so after you, we're gonna drive up back to South Carolina,
and I'll hang out there a little bit.
Nice, nice.
Yeah, I'm in Southern Oregon.
Okay, cool.
Yeah.
All right, what's your win and question?
Shana, you can come on, too.
Well, the win, I thought about the win,
what win I wanna bring,
and I think the win that I wanna bring,
and I'm curious what Shana wants to bring,
is that I'm in like super challenging
financial time right now.
I've been in challenging financial times before,
but I think this is the most challenging,
and so what's really important to me during these times
is because the temptation is so great
to like, oh, be in the catastrophe,
like, oh my God, the plane's going down,
it's gonna crash, that temptation is so great
that I really, it's very important.
me to trust more than ever, right? Because I see it as opportunity to trust. It's really,
it's really God's giving, God's giving me an opportunity by taking away what I build my
support around is showing how much do I trust in money more than God. So, so I feel like I have had
glimpses of trusting, you know, and, and I consider that, I consider that a real win
to be able to get those glimpses, because then that gives me something that I can really
hang on to and increase. I want to decrease the fear, increase the faith and really see this as a,
as an amazing opportunity. And if I, if I have to, it's like in Top Gun Maverick, right? The
plane's going down, it's going down, it's going to crash into the earth. Well, you know, at the
last minute that it pulls out, it's just doesn't, it almost crashes and doesn't. And so even though
you kind of know that's going to happen, it's still thrilling in the movie. And I would like
to just know that the plane is going to pull up before the ground and, and enjoy the thrill of
Maverick Top Gun. So that's, that's my win. Shana, what about you?
Yeah. Oh, that's an awesome, fun win. I'd say, um, I met this person just in, at something
totally unrelated to our coaching and sat next to her, talk to her. And I, she asked me what we do,
what I do. And I said, Oh, relationship coaching. She's like, Oh, just this week, I was told I need
a relationship coach. It led to a conversation yesterday. It was really a great conversation.
And I felt into it. And it's like this person, she even said, I love what you're sharing. I don't
know if it's the time. And I could feel that like put pressure, you know? Cause like the salesperson
and it's like, Oh, this isn't the time she's communicating something, which led to a really
exciting conversation, leaving her with, she'll know when it's the time she'll hear it. And then
I sent her a text, just like, I'm so glad we had that conversation yesterday. I'm glad we made the
time. And she just now like texted me back while we're on this fricking thing, you know, just like
me too. And, and it just feels like, Oh, some people it's like, you build a relationship with
and who knows where it's going to lead. And the last person that you just talked to,
I'm so sorry that I don't remember the name. I should, we're in such a small container.
I'm like, Oh, I can also add that piece you just brought in, which is like, I know this isn't
right for you right now, but like, who do you know? And so that feels like something I could add.
And so, but it's a win. Cause it's just like, wow, God's sending people. I didn't have to do it.
I mean, I was at another person's event that I support in, in high ticket sales business.
So I was supporting her and so proud of her and like we work together and then
supporting somebody who purchased something from her. And we had this exchange. So it's just like,
it's like, I haven't even unpacked all the bounty of the win. Yeah. Very cool. Yeah. Okay. Let me,
before we get into questions, I just want to, cause they're both great. I just want to give,
give kind of my, I don't know, something to both of those. So like, you know, with her
one thing that, cause some, I think sometimes, you know, people need help being led, you know,
on, on especially, I mean, most people out there have never invested, you know, in coaching or
relationship coaching or anything. And right. So, you know, left to their own devices, they'll just
they've always done, which is not do that. And so some helpful questions that could be safe to ask,
cause it's not, we don't want to ever add pressure. I'm not trying to close them. But I would say,
you know what, that's, you know, that's a good point about timing for me when I'm say, I would
put it on me versus like what you should do. Like, no, don't ever do that. So for me, when I'm
considering coaching, I look at, will the problem get better if I don't do anything and what would
it be worth if the problem got solved? And, and, and then of course, then I would pray on it.
Am I supposed, am I supposed to, you know, get help around this thing? And so I hope that, you know,
I hope that that helps you. And, you know, I'm here if you ever want to chat.
That, that will lead you to many conversions. If you do that, cause you're, you're leading them,
you're telling them helpful advice without pressuring them. And
Yeah, and then international. Yeah, you know, it's that, you know, Matthew five, three and four in the Message Bible, you know, you're blessed when you're at the end of your rope at the end of your rope, there's more of him and less of you.
And, and so, yeah, it's, it's such, it's such a radical space to move into, of actually trusting him as provider, not for provision.
So there's, there's a difference, right? So if I, if I trust him for provision, that's a little, it's a little different. I, in my head, versus I see you as my provider, because he can, he can provide anyway, you know, and, you know, you look at the, it reminds me of,
I was on a podcast like two weeks ago in Miami. And this, this guy, I don't think it's even come out yet. But this guy, I don't think this ever made it to you guys, I sent it to Rebecca, you know what I'm talking about, right, Rebecca.
So I'm gonna, I'll read this to you, and I'll, and I'll share it with anyone who wants it. But he was, he was going through a very tough financial situation. And he, you know, he's at church, he goes up to the front, and he just hears, get a pen and paper.
And, and so, you know, he grabs a journal, and he did not write this. No way. I mean, this is all Holy Spirit, man. And so I've actually, I thought it was so good. I've actually kept it on my computer for, you know, like two weeks, and I don't know when I'll let it go, because I just think it's so good.
So, you know what, I don't want to distract, I don't want to, I'll read it. And then if you guys want it, I'll have Rebecca send it to you guys. So this is what the Holy Spirit wrote through him. Because he read this to me on the podcast. I'm like, yeah, you didn't write that. Because it's, it's, I mean, alright, so listen to this.
Stop looking at the bills unless it is due today. Looking at the bills ahead of today shifts focus from all the blessings you have today to the potential lack of the future. Focusing not on today's blessings, but on future potential lack. Taking your eyes off God and setting them on what he hasn't done.
In that place, the enemy waits with lies carefully crafted just for you in a way that you'll accept as truth or the reality of your situation, getting you to agree that you don't have enough. And because you agree, you worry about not having enough for tomorrow, even though you've always had enough for today, which means you've always had enough when tomorrow inevitably becomes today.
Remember the birds and you will start having more than enough for tomorrow when you agree that you always have more than enough for today. You've always had enough in the present moment. All you need to do is be present. And the more present you are, the more clearly I can guide and provide. And the more you worry, the more you will have something to worry about. I love you. Don't worry. Be present. You'll always have more than enough.
Amen.
That's the Beatitudes, right? Because I do. I like to quote that. The birds of the air don't worry about.
They don't reap or sow.
And so I'll just copy that. I don't know. It might be too long.
Definitely want it. You said if we want it, I would like.
Rebecca, can we send that to, do you still have that?
I do have it. Yep. I'll send it out.
Yeah. Send that to everyone because it's too long to post in here.
Thanks, Rebecca.
I find that this stuff, like I can only be successful in this stuff, right? If I don't try to do it alone.
Yeah.
Because I really can't. I just, I need a community of people who live the same way.
Yeah.
But yeah, he'll.
I mean, there's so many times where he guided me to do.
Something that just didn't make sense.
I mean, I remember one time in particular.
I, you know, the hotel kind of changed their policies where they wanted a much larger percentage up front than I'd ever paid in 10 years.
And, and it just hit just right at the exact right time where it's like, ah, holy crap.
And, and so I'm like, I'm just like, oh man, what am I going to do here?
They're beating down my, you know, they're like, hey, when are you going to pay this thing?
And, and I get right the check.
And I'm like don't got it Lord ain't there. What do you mean write the check?
Okay, I write the check I
You know put I put it in the mail and I just get a nudge to check an old bank account
And I log into that bank account and there was some kind of humongous
Settlement thing that went there and there was just sitting, you know, twenty seven thousand bucks were just sitting there
And I just cried that was the same day
He had me write the check and then he nudged me to check that he didn't do it before
so I could write it out of plenty, you know, he did it like I'm complete faith and
and so just
crazy, but you know, it's
Yeah, and I just I've had stories like that too. I love hearing yours when I I started doing this
27 years ago when I said, okay God, I'm gonna make a deal with you
I'm gonna do what I think I'm supposed to do on earth
Assume I'm gonna get it wrong because what do I know, but I want you to support me
And I would say less than a week later. My brother calls me up and says I'm just gonna send you $5,000
That's super generous, but no, thank you, you know because I had too much pride to accept money from my brother
So I'm like that's super generous. Thank you so much though
And then after I hung up I thought wait a second. I just made a deal with God, right?
Dollars and I'm saying no
Yeah
Okay, I call him back and say okay. I'll accept the money. Yeah
But still like, you know all these years of doing it
It's like I'm a newcomer because it's gone to a whole new level like you say perfect storm
like this money and that money and you know a massive amount of money that I have to pay massive amount of money like
100 K that I have to pay. Yeah, and so
God goes, you know, okay have faith now international. Can you do it? That's right. That's right. Yeah, that's right
Yeah, and and and it's you know
Romans 5 3 4, you know talks about
When you go through these things it produces hope and
And hope is future right because he's walked me through so many
Just just unbelievable financial things that I just have absolutely no fear
I mean he worked big numbers in me of
Just yeah big and so I just like bring it on man, like I I trust you you're gonna provide
It doesn't matter what the bill is
That's it's a wonderful place to be you know, it really it really is and
You know just you know, remember when he was, you know, when it when he said
You know, this is my son who I'm well pleased. The next scene is the wilderness
Yeah, and you know and so he sends people into the wilderness when he's pleased with them and
You know because that's that's where we up level
That's that's where we scale the mountain and we base camp and then we scale and base camp and scale the base camp
That's when we up we up level right? So there's always an upgrade possible when there's a situation we
Don't know what to do about and that up that allows him, you know, I love
Second Corinthians 12 9 it's you know, my grace is sufficient for you for my power is made perfect in your weakness
So anytime I've gone into something and I'm just like I don't know how this is gonna go whether it's a conversation
or a financial thing or a speech or a video all of a sudden it's awesome because I just lean more on him than
than me and
You know, and so I think I will I will tell you a mistake that I made
is
I
would try I would trust trust trust trust trust trust trust trust until like the last moment and then I'd be like I
Got it. I got empty money
and so I would like I would I would I would like surely he's gonna
By now, he would have paid that and by now he would have provided and then I would like okay
Let me pull it out of this account. And so I honestly believe I went through millions of dollars that I didn't need to
Had I just been like, okay, I trust you for this and not worried at all. I
really 100% believe that because I've since experienced that because there were there were
several years of toughness
You know for that
Oh, you go Shannon you go
Oh, there's a saying for that because I've experienced that too and not experience is don't leave five minutes before the miracle
Yeah, because it happened or don't leave minutes after the miracle either
And I would say just don't leave, stay on that, stay on
surrender.
I like to use that example of Mr. Magoo, the cartoon when he's
walking on the girders, and he's blind. So he doesn't know that
he's however many feet off the ground walking on steel girders
at a construction site. So they're constantly moving
around. Yeah. And when he said one, the end of one girder, he
takes a step and another just miraculously comes in. So his
is on is on the next girder. And he's blind. So he has a certain
kind of unconscious faith, right? But right, right. That's
kind of what you're saying is that girder comes in at the last
minute. It's not interesting if it comes in while he's still got
plenty of girder left. It's only interesting if it comes in at
the last second. That's right. That's right. And also, like, I
really love I love your faith. I want to like, compound the
you know, like, offer mine to others and borrow yours and just
create a massive mountain of faith. Yeah, amen. I love it.
Well, I'm excited to see you guys. Any anything else I can
help with between now and Friday?
Well, yeah, we did. We did have a question or like, more me. I
kind of, like, was hit with an awareness. I've thought of it
before, because I felt intuitively, this may be a
market for us. And I couldn't even totally 100% explain why.
But usually, when something like this happens in life, I get I get
a hit. And then I feel a responsibility to explore it and
see if it what it leads to. But I was reading a news article
about a couple there in the in the public eye. And they're
having like rumblings of relationship problems. And I
thought that might be a good thing for us to do, which is
sort of see who's having problems and maybe actively go
after these individuals to see absolutely potential clients.
Yeah, absolutely. So how do you Yeah, go ahead.
Yeah. And one of my one of my just, I just love this story.
It's my buddy, Jim. And he is. I doubt probably Lynn has heard
this story. I doubt too many have heard this story. But so he
was selling insurance. And he would he's just phone animal. I
mean, he would just make you just cold call, cold call, cold
call, cold call. And he did very, very, very well. And, and
so I asked him, forget what this was for. I interviewed him
for something. And, and I asked him, I'm like, hey, what's
what's like the craziest cold call that that ended up
working? And he's, and he knew it right away. He's like,
alright, there was this petroleum company that I called
every few months for 10 years. And they always shot me down.
Never, you know, never took it never whatever. And then one
time, they had a PR issue. And I called them. And I said, Hey,
I have a solution to your PR issue. It helped them. Then
they decided to do business with me. And that made him $11
million. So the first 10 years, zero.
Same thing. Only five minutes before the miracle. You told
that story on another space. And you're like, if he had stopped
calling after eight years, right? I made nothing. But
he made 11 million. I'm like, Oh, yeah, right. Yeah. So long
game. Oh, yeah, the long game. So what what I would do, I'll
tell you one one thing that reminds me of a lady that I
hired, and I worked with her for, you know, many years. She
sent me this, but I didn't know who she was didn't come with any
recommendations or anything. But she sent me a short video. And I
happened to watch it. And she's like, Hey, on your website,
right here, here's where you're losing money. If you added this
and this and this, it would actually make you a lot of
money. And I've looked at your traffic and visited it. And she
gave me this custom video on exactly my website. And and I'm
like, this is really good. And I reached out to her and I ended
up hiring her we I, you know, had her for several years. And
so I say both of those stories to one, I if I'm you guys, I
would actively be looking for celebrity relationship issues.
And I would provide them with custom. You know, suggestions, I
would do my best there. I don't know, you know, that may need
some prayer there. But I would, you know, not Hey, I help
people relationships reach out to me. But, you know, hey, you
know, I've heard some of the rumors. I hope that none of them
are true.
you know, here are kind of our, you know, you know, here's some
different rules that have helped some of the people we've helped
with relationships that have high profiles like you. And I
would try to offer some kind of value, and be diligent and
reaching out because a lot of people reach out to these
people. And so as far as how to reach out to them, I would, you
know, some of them, you know, I was I was actually at an event
this weekend, I spoke in Dallas. And one of the guys there is I've
known this guy for, you know, 20 years, Larry Bonet, and Larry
Bonet is one of the, I mean, I think he's the best connector
I've ever met. And, you know, he in less than one minute, he got
the contact. Now he had to be in proximity. But he got the phone
numbers of Bill Clinton, Richard Branson. This, there's several
others, I'm sure I'm forgetting. But he is just
really good at connecting with people, providing value, or a
resource that would help them in their endeavors. And so like, if
he so here's how he did it with Bill Clinton, right. So he was
at a charity function where Bill was going to be and he was
present at the time. And he knew that Bill Clinton loved playing
the saxophone. Well, one of his other contacts, he was actually
helping with to do the we are the world song, part two, or
whatever. I don't know. I don't know that I ever heard part two.
But, you know, he was doing this. And so when he goes to get
a picture Secret Service all around, it's in and out, you
know, get a quick picture, get out of there. So in the 40
seconds of him getting a picture with Bill Clinton, he said, Hey,
I have authorization to invite you to the we are the world, you
can play the saxophone if you want. And he goes, Yeah, yeah,
reach out to me. Yeah, I'd love to do that. And so it's
obviously very different scenario than you have. But what
kind of value, what kind of intriguing thing could you offer
to a celebrity that that they would say, you know, is it that
you're discreet? Is it that you've helped a lot of high
profile individuals? Is it that you notice something on an
interview? You know, obviously, you got to be careful with that
one, not being offended. But yeah, I would, I would make it a
point, not my 100% focus. Because, you know, I think that,
you know, that might be tricky. But would I be reaching out to
10 celebrities a week, probably, probably maybe 20. I wouldn't
make it my primary focus. But I would love that out there.
Because here's the deal, you know, like I, you know, some of
you know, I've been friends with Gary Brekker for 20 years. Well,
no one knew him at all, until he got on Grant Cardone stage. And
then when he coached Dana White, everyone in the world wanted to
hire him. So the the the royal family in Dubai, they pay him
like 25 grand an hour to come and see them. And they'll have a
jet waiting wherever he is. And and but it was, you know, him,
him getting Dana White was such a big, I mean, he's, he's done
Mark Wahlberg, he's done, I mean, I don't know that there is
a celebrity he hasn't worked with now. And and so sometimes
that getting that one celebrity is the kickoff to 100 extra your
business.
Yeah, any advice on on how to connect to a celebrity?
So Larry, he wouldn't give the the name, but he said, you'd be
surprised at how many of these, how many of these celebrities do
check their their DMS, certainly not all of them, but some of
them do. And and so that would be a first step is let me just
send so he because he was talking about a billionaire
that he got connected to through Instagram DMS. And, and so, you
know, I would try the obvious routes, I would Google or chat
GPT, you know, how to reach Ryan Reynolds or whatever, you know,
and, you know, and so you just, there is no, this is the way to
get ahold of them. It's, you know, it's going to take a
little bit of research, a little bit of testing. You know, that's
going to vary by person, for sure.
Did you also use the if you know celebrities? Like, I mean, I
have friends that are so tell them about it, and they can pass
it on to their
for sure. Yeah. You know, I and if you know, if you have friends
that know celebrity
is when you're around them, you may just mention,
yeah, we've started working with some really high-profile people.
And if you have any high-profile people that are struggling
in a relationship, we'd be happy to help them.
And it's not about how much can we
charge this celebrity, although they're probably
willing to pay, it's getting that one celebrity
could be an absolute game changer.
Yeah.
Does that help?
Yeah.
Perfect.
So between now and this weekend, do a little bit of research
and see if you can come up with some suggestions
that we can actually write some scripts this weekend of what
that looks like.
Do we want to provide value without raising offense?
And I feel confident we could come up with some good ideas.
Yeah, that's a great question.
It's awesome.
Nice.
Thanks, Ray.
Yeah, you got it.
Because this move is, this is a 10x move, right?
You get, someone sees that, oh, you coach the Kardashians
or whatever, and all of a sudden,
you've got a whole line of people
that would also want to hire you just because of that.
Awesome.
Thanks.
Lynn, what's happening?
Hello.
Hey.
OK.
I also got a pop-up saying unmute, too.
I don't know if that's you.
OK, first of all, my win.
After our last session, Rebecca voxed me and shared with me
the two things that I, which I think is very interesting.
She said, the spirit of discouragement
is not being able to break me, but it
opened the door for the spirit of confusion.
And she prayed them off me and helped me with a prayer
that I continued to say.
So thank you.
That was my big win.
Thank you, Rebecca.
Hey.
Hey, Rebecca.
My question is, it's around my personal and business
and my immediate family.
So what I've been experiencing is such harsh judgment
from my mother because she keeps telling me,
I don't recognize you anymore.
I don't believe what you're doing on social media.
All of these things that it's not who you are.
I don't know you anymore.
She used those exact words.
I don't know you anymore.
And I am living and walking in my new creation, which
is difficult for her to accept, apparently.
So her judgment is hidden really hard
because I feel I need to be honoring my family,
but I also have a business to grow.
Yeah.
And I keep going back to scripture about all of this.
So Micah 7 talks about honoring your parents.
Of course, the Ten Commandments.
I mean, it's.
And then there's Mark, because I know
I have accepted the fact that I cannot be
a prophet in my own land.
My family, except for my immediate family,
my husband and my son, they don't believe anything
I say about wellness, about prayer,
diving into all of that.
So my immediate family just thinks I'm nuts.
My immediate family loves me.
My extended family thinks I'm crazy.
And now my mother is being vocal about it.
Yeah.
So I'd like some advice on how to get past this.
Yeah, give me a second here.
So I'm trying to remember the second place.
But Jesus and his reaction to his mom, actually,
there's two very interesting examples.
And I'm not thinking of the second place,
but in Matthew 12, 46 to 50, it says,
while Jesus was still talking to the crowd,
his mother and brother stood outside wanting to speak to him.
Now, he's speaking very boldly.
So we kind of are guessing that they're
trying to stop him and be like, hey, you're
treading on some dangerous ground.
We can kind of surmise that based on the crowd's response
and based on what he's referring to.
And he replies, who is my mother and who are my brothers?
Pointing to his disciples, he said, here are my mother
and my brothers.
brothers, for whoever does the will of my Father in heaven
is my brother and sister and mother."
And so it's not that he necessarily dishonored,
but he wasn't going to let his mother stop him.
And there's also some tricky,
I think this is the other part.
There's also some interesting scripture where it says,
you have to love, in a nutshell,
you have to love me more than your mother and father.
If you love your mother and father more than me,
then there's a problem.
And it reminds me of, when the Lord told me
in regards to my wife, he said,
I needed you to trust me more than you were worried
about letting her down.
And so when Paul says, I can't be a people,
in Galatians 1.10, I can't be a people pleaser
and a servant of Christ, I truly believe
he's referring to all humans
in that we cannot please everyone.
We just can't.
And honor is, honor doesn't mean
I'm going to do everything this person says.
That's not, I think it's what, kabbad?
Is that the term?
But it, so it's, your job is not to win over your mother,
just like Jesus's job wasn't to win over his mother
when she was really concerned.
And so I will, I'm just curious.
So all I would do around that is just say,
Father, thank you for drawing her closer.
That's what I would do.
But I, this is still, you're blessed
when you're persecuted, even by your mom.
This is a blessing.
And so it's, there's a lot of people
getting blessings right now, right?
With Charlie Kirk and everything.
And there's a lot of people that are coming
out of the woodworks that are either being bolder
in their faith or being more hateful toward faith.
And so we just have to recognize that we are not,
so I forget where this is located,
but it's fear of man is a snare
and fear in Hebrew is awe or respect.
So to have awe or respect of man,
if I trust in my awe or respect of man,
that is a snare.
It's going to hold me back
from where I'm supposed to be going,
but trust in the Lord and be safe.
And so I have definitely had criticisms
from close people to me.
My, as far as family, you know, like,
I mean, Jess's whole, I mean, I never,
I don't know if you heard my Philadelphia stories,
but you know, like I just,
I don't expect one iota of accolades,
kudos, appreciation, gratitude,
acknowledgement from entire groups of our family.
And that's okay, I don't have to have that.
And the Lord, when it bugged me that I got so little of it,
the Lord reminded me,
why do you still need to be validated by others?
And I'm like, you're right.
And so it's not, you know,
so you want, when you keep going despite that stuff,
that's what stands out.
So this is like heaping hot coals on someone's head
and that is what gets them to change their mind
is your keep going-ness,
not, you know, spitefully or negatively or calling them out
or, you know, saying back it up, you know, whatever,
you being negative to them,
it's your keep going-ness is what will inspire people,
including the persons that are criticizing you.
And so just keep shining, we're gonna keep shining,
you're the light of the world.
Okay, thank you.
And I do, I will tell you, you know, like I had,
so I have a guy in my life that, you know,
I just love him, he's awesome, he's amazing.
And he'll come to me often with a,
Hey, you need to do this.
Hey, I'm just looking out for you, man.
You need to do this.
And I'm like, okay, cool.
Lord, am I supposed to do that?
No.
99 times out of 100, when him, who I respect,
tells me I need to do something.
Lord, do I need to do this?
No.
Okay.
Hey, thanks for telling me.
I don't do it.
But I do check.
I do check.
Hey, am I off base here?
Did I screw up something here?
Did I miss something here?
And I want to make sure,
because I want to stay in step with the spirit.
You know, maybe I missed something.
And so I will check.
Lord, am I off base?
Am I strained from what you're calling me to do?
So I will ask those questions.
And I probably always will.
I probably ask that arguably too much.
But I do abide by his answers.
So when I get an answer, that's what we doing.
Okay.
Cool.
All right.
Yes, thank you.
Jackie, what's happening?
So back in a few months ago,
I had a big accolade through what I shared.
And what I have found is,
and I'm still really raw and emotional,
so I'm going to try to keep it together today.
But-
And is this your win?
Is this your win?
My win is showing up.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
Because the Lord has put this really heavy
on my heart to bring to you, to help me.
Okay.
So for some, and I can tell you why,
but I don't know how to overcome it.
Even through prayer, this is where I was led.
But when I get an accolade,
or I get anybody telling me I'm doing good,
then I self-sabotage.
And I remember as a teenager,
because I was the good kid, I'm the youngest of five,
but I was the good kid, always trying to do what best.
But yet it was a lot of pressure being the good kid
and people seeing that.
Because then it made me feel like
I was looked at better than my siblings.
And so when that happened,
because I had been,
for pretty much 90 days, I prospected.
I mean, I hit the ground running.
And then when that happened, I pulled back.
And I've really had a hard time
since I lost my grandson anyway.
Of course.
But I know that I'm to use that to share his message
because the Lord told me that Demi is going to be a lot,
there's a lot more gonna come of this
more than he was here.
And I'm not quite at liberty to share what happened to him.
Okay.
But I just need to overcome myself
and my self-sabotaging because the God,
because I know the Lord has big plans for me
and a message, not just because I'm raising my grandkids,
but because, I mean, I helped raise Demi.
Yeah.
My daughter was 16 when she had him.
And so I mean, we feel like we've lost our son.
Yeah, of course.
And so, but how can I,
even though I've asked their prayers and stuff,
I just don't feel, and I've had other,
I mean, I've been to coaching before about it,
you know, I've been through therapy.
I mean, I just, I don't know what the answer is.
Yeah.
Again, so sorry for your loss.
So what I've noticed is when the Lord is ready
to really remove a trait that doesn't serve others,
a lot of times he ramps it up
and he ramps it up to where it's just horrible.
Like, I remember, even though I didn't know him
at the time, you know, he knew me, but I didn't know him.
I remember when we started ballroom dancing,
we'd been married 10 years.
I had never had jealousy issues at all.
like I never like wondered, you know, she cheating on me or anything like that and
for whatever reason I just you know, we we went there and you know, I
We were she was very very naturally amazing and I was Frankenstein. I mean, I was just terrible
they asked me if I was in an accident, you know, like I you know, I was just I was just horrible and
But I just got so jealous of
Her and her dance partner who looked just amazing and you know, just spinning into the air and
and
I'd never had this feeling around her and I'd had this feeling when I was, you know teenager
You know and I was dating someone but I had not had this feeling as
Like why is this happening? And I just got to an insane
amount and
Before
There was a breakthrough and I haven't had any ounce of that at all
So I feel like maybe there was some of it left in my heart
That he just ramped up to a very annoying degree to move it out of me and I suspect you're in that same place
It's time for you to be the light of the world
it's time for you to be that city on the hill that can't be hidden and
And so to do that, we need to you know, he wants you to
Willingly and he does it very gently
Work this out of you, right? It's like when you're when you're you know
You know Dion he says, you know as you when you go if you go to Africa and you go through the caves
Like there are some times where you're you're digging through a crawlspace and there's you know
jagged things that are
Knocking things off of you and like scraping you and scratching you and so when you go through a crawlspace
It takes the things off of you that needed to get off of you for you to get into the vast openness
And I think that's what's you know, that's what's happening with you
so I
I've gone through a couple I've gone through three stages of
Accolade acceptance. Okay stage one was couldn't accept it
So I remember many years ago, you know when I was just getting started someone said
Hey, man, you're a really good speaker. And I'm like, oh I'm trying to be better. I'm just loaded me and
Fortunately God had a mentor there who said why'd you do that?
I'm like why'd I do what why'd you make that person feel like an idiot?
And I'm like what?
He's like, yeah, you made him feel like an idiot
They came up to you wanting to give you an accolade you shot him down now. They feel stupid
I'm like, oh my god, I'd never want to do that. Like I didn't mean to do that
you know, I was just trying to be humble and and so, you know that moved me to the next stage, which is I would
on the surface except
And but not really I'd like all thank you. Oh, wow. Thank you so much, but not really I didn't accept it
I didn't believe whatever you just said about me and
and
Then I heard John Maxwell's story around this if you've heard this one, but he was, you know before he was John Maxwell
He was a pastor for 25 years and when he was in his 20s
He was preaching and he's just I mean you can imagine he's dynamic now imagine, you know
Like his energy levels and you know, he's probably doing flips and stuff
And so, you know as you know, 20 year old pastor
He's just lighting the world on fire and people are just pouring over him John you're amazing
You're the greatest ever and his mentor who's a pastor brings him into his office and he says, you know
Hey, I want to share some things with you. He's like, okay, he goes first of all
You're not awesome and John's like
Okay, and he said in fact, you're only a couple steps from stupid
I was like
Great talk, you know like okay, and then he said but
The gifts that God gave you are awesome. And if you remember that you'll go far
So for me the next level of acceptance is when someone tells me hey
You're a great speaker or you did this great or you really helped me or whatever. I just know I
That's God's gift
So for me not to accept it and for it for me not to for me not to honor that
Is me dishonoring the giver?
it's me dishonoring God and
And so the logical part of your thing is in the past
The conclusion was when I get praised someone gets hurt
Logically, you know, that's not the case
So head knowledge you're aware no one's being harmed when someone
complements Jackie, right?
No one's being harmed, but that's logical, okay?
In your heart, you can say,
hey, whatever I'm getting complimented on,
that is because the Lord is with me on that thing.
And I think that that will help you better accept.
And we are to, you know, he's with us in our storms.
We don't think he is.
You know, when Jesus was sleeping on the boat,
the apostles who are us, we were freaking out, right?
We're like, he's gonna let us die in the storm.
And just think about it, first century, you know,
Israeli boat, probably not a yacht,
probably not super fancy,
probably didn't have too much nautical equipment.
It was probably just, you know, very basic.
And yeah, he was just sleeping so tired during the storm.
And we think God isn't with us in our storms.
We just turned to him.
And so God, I'm having this feeling of, you know,
someone complimenting me.
I feel like I'm about to sabotage.
Father, thank you for helping me here.
Thank you for being with me.
Thank you for helping me to continue.
And I do that stuff.
I catch myself.
I catch myself when I start to go into a negative realm.
And I've had that, you know, the last couple of days,
you know, I don't know if Rebecca's aware of it or not,
but last couple of days, you know,
someone I work with very closely,
I dropped the ball on two different things.
And I hate that I did it, but I did.
And I just dropped the ball and I go into condemnation.
And I'm like, okay, Lord, you know,
thank you for helping me with this.
Thank you for helping me.
You know, I know that there is no condemnation in Christ.
There's no reason for me to beat myself up.
Thank you for helping me understand
what I'm to learn from this.
And so it's just, it's turned to him always.
And he loves being our deliverer.
He actually loves our struggles.
He loves to be the deliverer.
If he can't be the deliverer,
if we're already good at everything,
he loves being that for us.
And so let him be.
Let him be the deliverer from this thing in the past
that no longer serves you.
And like, you know, Lynn said, you know,
you're a new creation.
The old has passed away, the old is gone.
And so, you know, hope that helps.
And I totally feel that the new creation going on.
I mean, you're growing every day in that new creation.
Yeah.
Changed the way.
I know it's changed the way that I dealt with the loss.
Yeah.
My other question is, you know,
my focus has really been,
my message has been more around raising my grandkids.
But I feel like that that is still part of my message,
but then it can be a message to bring out the awareness
around the death of Demi, you know, and what happened.
And so my question is,
is so do I try to bring them together
and speak about them both or do I keep them separate?
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's definitely a big question.
That would,
yeah, I figured that.
I'm like, Lord, can I pray about that?
He wants to walk you through that.
What does that look like?
That's, that's, he wants to help you navigate that.
Okay.
Cause that's just not something that,
here's the logic behind it.
You know, here's what to do.
Here's the process.
There is no process.
This is, you know, Lord, what, how,
what are we doing about this?
And I would not be surprised if he wants it to be,
you know, he wants it to be fully formed in you.
Like I, I have a story.
I did share this with Rebecca,
but I'm just not sharing it publicly
because I still don't feel like it's fully formed yet.
And I think, you know,
I have a crazy, weird adventure story
that happened last week.
I'm just not comfortable sharing it
with a bunch of people yet.
And I think I just, I don't know.
I would not be surprised if there was a delay.
I would not be surprised if there's a,
what him wanting you to gain the full wisdom
of what's, of what's needed before you go to that.
But, but he'll tell you that.
He wants, he'll walk you through that.
Because there is, there is no,
here's the marketing process for that, like that's, no.
That's not the deal.
Okay. Thank you.
Hope that helps.
Hope all that helps.
And, and Rebecca.
Just, you know, when we do finish, we'll finish with Lisa.
Let's make sure we say a prayer for Jackie.
David.
Hello.
Hey.
So when I've been going through a lot of things
I didn't realize were there as far as blocks
and baggage and pains and things that were standing
in my way internally for moving forward.
And I feel like I've gotten to a point where like, okay
I've got through all that and I'm where I'm at now.
I'm like, that's my wind, by the way
big going through all that stuff, but now I'm like, okay
so where do I want to go?
You know, what is my point B?
What is, which is kind of new
because I feel like I can pick whatever I want.
I haven't really felt like I could choose what I wanted
for ever, it seems like.
So just any wisdom or thoughts or ideas
around navigating in this space
and choosing a direction, a point B
that kind of a thing would be my question.
Yeah.
And you, and we need to, right?
We need to pick a direction, right?
So, you know, Proverbs, keep your eyes forward.
Don't turn to the left or right, keep your foot from evil.
So when we don't have where we're going
and when we don't have a direction
that's when we're easily screwed up.
And so it's like, where are we going?
Where's the North star?
So if I recall correctly, last time we talked
you were going to do some role-playing
and, you know, kind of get the jitters out.
Did you end up doing that?
Haven't, I've done, I've thought about it
pretty much every day in, or what I do the next day.
I haven't done a lot.
I started, you shared a video last time too,
Myles Monroe, that was the name.
Yeah.
And that seemed to unlock a lot of stuff in me
and start some of this other stuff happening
where I was able to start, okay.
And I'm still processing all this stuff in that video.
That's like an overwhelming amount
of stuff for me to process.
But it's like, the blocks was the first thing.
Why am I not moving forward?
Why do I feel like it's blocking me?
And I found a bunch of things.
So, and then I was like, then I sat down,
I'm like, well, okay, you know, do I want to do this?
Well, so the challenge is, I'm like,
I realized where I've been telling myself I want to go.
It's going to be a huge chunk of my effort
and energy and time for a number of years.
And I'm like, well, why is that worth it to me?
What's the point?
I mean, mentally I can go there,
but I really want to tap more into the heart
and where I think God wants me to go and sorting that out.
So I feel like there's some internal more digging
than I've done to figure this part out.
Maybe it's a distraction,
but I really feel like I don't have that clarity.
And that's probably the reason why I need,
that's like the next thing I think is my block.
Well, I got past the past.
Now, where am I going?
Yeah.
So it's better,
it's good to get into motion,
even if you're not positive,
it's the right direction
than to have no motion, no direction.
And, you know, it's, so if someone,
so let's say a little bit different scenario,
but let's say that someone had,
there's two things that I love to talk about
and I don't know which one, you know,
should I talk about, you know, health or wealth, right?
Whatever.
And so it wouldn't be,
okay, I want you to really figure out which one,
that actually wouldn't be my advice.
My advice would be, okay,
either flip a coin or take the one that you think
is 1% better or more attractive than the other.
And I want you to go super hard at that thing for 90 days.
And in 90 days, you will figure out,
okay, I absolutely hate this thing,
or this is amazing, this is where I'm supposed to be.
And so, but what we can't do is just think about it
in our mind of what would it look like?
Cause we don't know what it looks like.
And so we have to, you know, run at it.
I, you know, I remember there was a time
where I was really fired up to be a travel blogger.
Like I just, I love to travel.
I traveled the world, you know,
I had vacationwithray.com.
I had a.
incredible sales letter for this VIP travel club I was selling.
And so I'm just like, man, this is amazing. This is awesome. I mean, I had a cool
safari hat on, like it was a cartoon, like animated logo, like it was really cool.
And until I started travel blogging, and I'm like, this sucks, man, I hate this.
This is terrible. And so the idea that was good, and if I was consistent at it, I'm sure it would
have worked. But I wrote, I think, four or five blogs. I'm just like, yeah, no, no. But I never
would have known that. I could still today be thinking, man, what if travel blogging,
you know, I had to go and get in the streets, right? And this is, you know, it's in a few
Proverbs, Proverbs 26. It's, you know, there's a lion in the road, there's a fierce lion in the
street. And that means you ain't in the street. You're just projecting this problem that's over
there somewhere, you know, terrorists or whatever, right? There's, you know, things that people will
point to, and that may not even affect them. But that's why they won't move forward. And so
I do think that I would, because I don't think even though you've been in the insurance and
financial services deal, for a long time, I don't think you've actually been in it. And so I would
rather you take, you know, the next 30, 60, even 90 days, whatever, of you going hard at it,
to realize this sucks. This was a terrible, you know, use of my time, I'd rather you actually
find that out, then just wonder what is my direction, it would be better, it would be
better for you to rule one out, that was a high possibility, then then just try to locate in our
mind what what is the best route. And the neat the I mean, the good thing is, you go and roleplay,
you go and prospect, the chances of that not helping you in wherever you are called,
if it's different, unlikely. You know, it's, you know, one of the Proverbs is in all labor,
there's profit. And just means, you know, and all the work that we do, there's growth,
right? We're growing, we're either learning, okay, I definitely don't want to do this, or,
hey, this may apply to selling stocks, I don't know, whatever. And so, you know, I would just,
if you if you in the absence of I think this is the choice, then I would run at
at the financial services thing, I would run at it just to rule it out. Okay. Or you'll find out,
hey, I'd built it up in my mind that it would suck. But actually, I like it. There's a reason
I've been here for so long. I don't know which one will be the outcome. But you won't know unless
you go. That's awesome. That's what I need to hear. Thank you. Yeah. Keep us in the loop. Keep
us in the loop. All right. All right. Awesome. All right, Lisa, what's happening? Last but not
least. There she is, or my hand. Miss my lion, the kitten took it. I know I was I was wondering,
where's the lion? Well, I have a little fan here and it starts blowing. Hold on.
Okay. Tell Jess something. All right. Yeah. So when and question when, when is
God has confirmed I've been praying on where I'm moving to? What am I doing? How am I doing it?
God has confirmed and this is prior to the announcement from our president, which is way
cool that I'm moving to Huntsville, Alabama. Oh, what was the announcement? That the what the heck
was it called? They're moving the US Space Command there. Oh, neat. Huntsville, Alabama. Yeah. So
I think it's Huntsville city. So go ahead. Yeah, I think I think it's Huntsville. I had a rep there.
And, you know, I was just picking on her. So, you know, it was just fun to pick on her. And,
and she's like, well, I'll have you know, that Huntsville, Alabama has the highest average IQ
in the nation. I'm like, yeah, okay. And I looked it up and it was actually true. I'm like, what the
heck? Because they have so many like space programs and different like rocket scientists
down there and everything.
So, very cool, very cool, not that far from Florida.
Yeah, well, and it's an 11-hour drive.
I've already checked it out, researched the city.
Yeah, and now my engineering brain gets into gear
and says, okay, we need to research this,
this, this, this, and this.
So with all of this,
and this past week has been hard for a lot of people.
Yeah.
And while mourning the loss of Charlie Kirk,
God has put it on my heart to focus on joy.
Amen.
With a while ago, you gave me that my focus
from a business perspective is helping people be happy.
Yeah.
And as I was listening to Graham Cook in the app,
it's not happy, it's the Lord's joy.
And that brought my joy as in the Lord,
that structure of love.
Yeah.
So, that brave, bold, and loving person that I am,
it's helped me through the morning to,
I don't want to be, I hear a lot of people saying,
I am Charlie, no, I'm not Charlie.
I get it, they wanna be brave,
they wanna be bold like Charlie.
Right, right, right, right.
But I wanna be more like Jesus.
So, brave and bold person that I am,
that he designed me to be.
With that, I'm still trying, no,
I'm still doing my best to discern how to shine a joy.
And in my analytical side, my old me keeps going,
oh, create an acronym and try to figure out words
and try to do this.
And then I'm like, stop, just stop
and just let it come to pass.
So, I guess my question to you is,
do you have any suggestions on how I can take
this information from God that he wants me to shine
his light, his joy to others?
I've almost last week,
I almost left all social media platforms
because I get so distracted.
And I don't like that I'm allowing myself to scroll
and I don't, that's why I hardly even get on.
Now I'm like, don't do it,
cause you're gonna scroll.
Open media that I love.
I, yeah, you know, I'm,
man, I wish I could think of who was it.
Jamie Winship.
So Jamie Winship, who's awesome.
He's like my second fave.
So Graham Cook, my fave.
Jamie Winship, second fave.
And so Jamie Winship, thank you.
Thank you, Lord.
Cause I could not think of who was it.
Jamie Winship talks about when he was in the hospital
and I figured what he was struggling with,
but he was just so angry and he was so mad and everything.
And he talks about the nurse that led him to the Lord
and how she was so kind and so loving.
And he would just, he treated her like absolute garbage.
And she still every day would show up
as if the day before hadn't happened.
Like he literally treated her like crap every day.
And then the next morning she'd be like, good morning.
And he's like, oh yeah.
Like he could not rattle her.
She was unrattleable.
She was just full of joy all the time.
And it just drove him nuts.
And so I don't know, it was in one of his interviews.
I don't know which one.
There's no, I don't think I could find that,
but I would maybe Google Jamie Winship nurse
and just kind of see.
Because what I, so what I could see as a possibility
is instead of overthinking,
like what if you just made an admission
that wherever you were, you brought joy?
So if you're in the grocery store,
you're making someone laugh in produce,
you're making, you're giving a compliment to the cashier.
You see what I mean?
And so what if you just made it, hey,
if I'm gonna be here, there's gonna be joy.
And you could always, you know, share, you know,
hey, you know, it's your girl, Lisa Kay here.
And here are my,
11 fun moments of joy I had yesterday.
You know, the mailman, I played a prank on him.
I had a fake spider that freaked him out, you know?
And so like, you know, there are people like that,
that they're just like quirky and funny and hilarious.
Like someone who is like that is Jess's
granddad, grandfather, who has passed away.
He was so funny.
Everyone loved him.
Everywhere he went, like, they just loved him.
He was so funny.
And so like, he was a drinker.
He was inappropriate, for sure.
For example, he would go,
he found this rock on the beach,
and he had, it's inappropriate, but it is funny.
So he had this, he found this rock on the beach,
and he had it all polished up,
and he built a velvet box for it.
And he would go, when he would go to the casino,
he would bring it with him, and he goes,
oh, this is my lucky pet rock.
And they're like, oh, okay.
And he would open it up,
and the rock was a perfect shape of a penis.
And people would look, and they would just die.
They would just die laughing.
It was just funny.
Why is this penis rock in a velvet box?
Like, it's just strange.
And I'm not, you know, I wouldn't do that, right?
But he just, he wanted to make people laugh
when he was around them.
That's just what he wanted to do.
And so like, what if you made that a point
of how do I bring joy wherever I go?
You know, how do I compliment the hostess?
How do I compliment the person that's,
you know, the flight's delayed, and they're grumbling,
and you know, how do I try to bring them joy?
And that would really stand out,
and I think it would be very intriguing
to watch on social media of you sharing
some of those stories, and maybe,
just maybe, more people run with them.
And it's, thank you for that.
When I was on the panel for Faith Over Fear last year,
when I came and went to sit in my seat,
there was a lady sitting behind me.
She goes, oh my gosh, she goes,
you need to be a stand-up comedian.
Yes, yes, you're awesome.
I mean, you know, and so just-
I never even thought of it.
You know, instead of thinking like,
oh, I must launch some program or something,
like, what if you just went and brought joy
wherever you were?
You're at a yard sale.
You're trying to make the people laugh.
You know, you're, you know, just, I mean,
I think that would really feed your soul too,
and I think it'd be really cool.
Well, and just so that you know,
ironically, I used to do it more often.
Like I would go and there'd be a line of people,
UPS store, wherever, you're waiting in line.
I'm like, oh look, just in time for the party line.
I'm like, you know what the party line is, don't you?
And a lot of older people was like, yeah, the telephone.
I'm like, yeah, exactly.
Let's share the phone, you know?
And just try to change the mindset of people
that find the whole nine yards, so.
Yeah, and so maybe your, you know,
mission isn't to get off of social media,
but to bring more joy to it
at a time when the world needs it.
Yes, really.
Yeah.
Okay, cool, thank you.
I hope you run with it.
That'd be super cool.
Oh, we're done, we're all done.
Very cool, very cool.
Ms. Rebecca, do you wanna pray us out?
Yeah, thanks, Ray.
Yay.
Oh, Heavenly Father, Lord, we're just grateful
for opportunity today for iron to sharpen iron, Lord,
for fellowship here.
Thank you for strategy and fresh insights and for growth.
Thank you for Ray and just the sharing of knowledge
that takes place on these calls.
Your words will repay us for the years
the locusts have eaten.
You are the one who resorts and heals
and who does the repairing, Lord.
You said you keep track of our wandering
and tears in your bottle, Lord.
So we thank you for being the one
who's near to the broken heart,
for saving the crushed in spirit, Lord.
You are the one who bandages up our wounds.
Even in grief, even in hardship, Lord, you've got us.
And so we thank Jackie.
God, we just lift up her family today, Lord.
I pray that you would help us.
Help them experience presence.
Pray that you help them testify to your peace that abounds.
I pray that you would build such a testimony of them
seeing your hand move, with such a story of feeling you
at work, Lord.
I pray that you bless them, that you heal them.
You are Jehovah Rapha.
And be their ever-present help in their time of need,
their need for peace and for comfort and for rest.
Thank you that you're so faithful,
that we can trust you, and for your overwhelming love today.
God, we love you, and we give you all the praise and glory.
In Jesus' name, amen.
Woo.
Amen.
So good.
Well, thank you guys.
God bless you.
I'll see some of you this weekend.
That'll be super fun.
And until the next time, guys.
God bless.
Thank you.
Thanks, Ray.
Thanks.
See you.