So, how, how are.
Thank you.
I was just going to ask before I get into my, my vehicle. How, how are things in, in your world I know you just recently had a conversation with Ray that was pretty profound and he didn't go into all of the details with me but just kind
of wanted to check in with you and see, see what's going on in your world. Yeah, my world is being flipped upside down and then I decided to get two kittens.
Oh, and one of them is at the vet, the second time in four days so.
Oh, so my heart is hurting but it's I'm just I just have to trust God there's there's something.
And the irony of it is I literally asked a vet, I used to use to send my pets home to heaven she would come to my house and euthanize them in my home, so they were resting, you know they weren't nervous.
And with that I asked her I said, do you that's really know what's going on with cats or dogs, she goes no.
So, it's the animal can't tell them what hurts what doesn't hurt like us humans can have conversations were animals, they're a lot of time. Yes, they have skills yes they have knowledge and based on symptoms and poking and prodding on the animals.
They can generally get a good idea but overall.
They don't know.
You know, I, as I'm sure you are too. I'm a firm believer that when it's your time it's your time, whether it's men and women or animals or any species right when it's your time it's your time.
But if you, if it's not time.
Obviously the power of prayer and the power of healing, and the power of love in your heart transfer to there so I'll tell you a funny story that's wild and, you know, I would.
I might share it publicly because I just don't care but some people would think it's weird but I know you won't.
I, I had this bunny.
This rabbit.
And he was like, so cute sweetest little bunny, and a little animal that just you know like a baby they put us in charge of their entire world and we're in charge of keeping them alive.
So I have this bunny.
And the kids were obsessed with this funny I mean it would let them crawl on them I was like a little human.
And one day I go in and just out of the blue out of nowhere this bunny is on his deathbed. I mean he is just.
He's barely breathing. I mean he looks.
He looks dead. I mean he just life out of them.
And I am holding him.
And I'm just praying and praying and praying, I mean he just he was on his last breath, no question he even stopped breathing for a time, and I'm holding him and I'm just feeling the love into this bunny.
And I just trusted God and I just laid him down and said okay you know I'll handle it in the morning.
And I felt like light come over me and I felt, I just felt so much love in that moment and it's the same feeling I had when I forgave my mom for everything that she had been going through.
And so I laid the bunny down, expecting to have a conversation with the kids in the morning. And in the morning, he was hopping around like nothing had happened.
Everything was just a okay.
So, that's not a promise or a guarantee, but just food for thought to try with your animals and just certainly can't hurt. It'll only help, and just, you know, you're doing everything else that you can.
So, just felt like I should share that.
Thank you. And yes, and I agree with you. And you brought up a valid point of that forgiveness.
And that's, that's a lot I need to work on my conversation was Ray wasn't forgiveness. I've had too deep. I had to want the one on one with him a week ago.
And basically I'm not supposed to do network marketing at least with the companies I've been doing.
And I'm supposed to focus on a book title that God gave me 10 years ago.
it's called and I the my chiropractor who was a Messianic Jew gave me the
title he said God wants you to write a book on this and I'm like thinking
myself you're crazy you know I don't know how to write a book I still don't
with that I I wrote it down he told me write it on an envelope and mail it to
myself so no one can steal it that is my trademark I'm like oh I didn't know
that's legal he goes go do it so I did it I have the envelope trademarked and
it's called junk to jewels oh that's catchy I love that yeah what's the
premise well I'm my heart is feeling that it's because my entire life I have
been made to feel that I'm not wanted by family mainly and in people that I
engaged with is very toxic and I've invested so much time and so much money
with business coaches and psychiatrists and everything since I was 13 years old
when I had a bleeding ulcer in the hospital because I worry too much yeah
my life has been a whirlwind and I'm to the point where I'm like okay I've had
Jesus for 20 years God I want I want that connection with God to the point
where I trust him with everything and the event for our our mentorship group
here that happened last week whatever day of the week it was I mean Dion
talked about holy trusting in God and he talked about oh the Sheila Sheila might
woman and as he was telling the story of the woman and how the king drove by and
and held out his hand to her and she looked up and it was the man that wanted
to marry her she didn't know he was the king it was in my heart my whole being
just melted as I sat here and listened to his story and went that's me
and I want that trust and I just simply have to believe that in in rebuke and
just bind all those negative thoughts that I've been taught since I was a
little kid and it is 62 that's a lot of thoughts yeah I I know I can do it
because I'm a believer and I trust in God
but then I keep it's like I feel like I'm going back and forth and back and
forth I feel feel like a ping-pong ball and I'm like no but you know and that's
okay I get it it's it has to come to a point where I truly I guess I make that
as they say decision and just believe and I'm not sure why I keep going back
to the negative when I know for a fact in my mind and I trust in God I gave my
life to him 20 years ago but why how I can get rid of these thoughts permanently
I don't know if it's a permanent thing it's not I mean I would just get rid of
that right now because there's not a human soul on the planet who doesn't
have negative thoughts even Graham Cooke has them he just knows what to do with
them and so you've like you said you know you've had 60 years of training in
the opposite direction to a degree I mean obviously that's coupled with with
other other train other good training and good practices but you it's a daily
it's a daily thing it's it's even sometimes a minute-by-minute thing
depending on the day that we're having and the last thing that God would want
is for you to beat yourself up over your negative thoughts right and so every day
every minute every hour it's it's a recapturing of those thoughts and
reframing it's really a reframing and as I'm sure Dion mentioned to you and I
know Graham would say the same thing is you know that that old person doesn't
exist so don't even deal with them don't even deal with that that old person
And so it's not a well, let me see how I can where does this thought come from?
Let me see how I can reconstruct this and turn this into something better.
It's a reframing in that you are reframing the way that you
move into positivity and the right way that you move into God's nature.
So you're kicking those thoughts to the curb and saying, I don't need you anymore.
And then focusing on, okay, what do I need in this moment, God?
Or what are you trying to tell me?
Or who am I in this new creation?
Right?
So the reframing, I think, gets muddled and gets distorted.
And people think that you have to take all those old thoughts and literally
analyze them and break them down versus just
picking them to the side and ignoring them and saying, that's not who I am anymore.
And holding power in that, even getting angry sometimes at those thoughts,
like get out of here, get, you know, taking your power back, stepping into that power.
Not that we want to stay in that state of anger, which I think, obviously,
you know that we don't, but it's better than wallowing in sadness.
It's better than wallowing in defeat.
Anger is better.
Yeah.
And you brought up something and me, I am, and Ray picked up on it a long time ago and
gave me my three words, my identity, brave, bold, and loving child of God.
Bold is beyond.
Now, I was always outspoken, tell people the way it is.
It wasn't always pretty before Christ and that's okay.
But when I first got saved, you brought a memory back.
And I remember any time something negative would come to me, I would just yell out live,
out loud and say, I rebuke you in Jesus name, you got no power north.
And I would yell it.
And that would bring the whole piece back.
And something over the last few years, it's like, I feel, and I don't know who or what or why,
but I feel like I've turned into this passive noodle.
And I'm not, that's not who I've been my whole life.
But I've somehow turned into that.
And I'm like, who the heck is this?
It's not me.
Yeah.
And, you know, most likely it comes from something that happened that has just,
the enemy's been working on you little by little through whatever that was.
Yeah.
And I'm thinking it has a lot to do with that.
I haven't been able to, it seems like I've never been able to hold a job, which is not true.
I've been skilled to the point where I've oversaw teams of people,
made six figures a year, yet I am what I don't want to be.
I feel I'm struggling with a poverty mindset because I can't seem to land a job that will
pay the bills because I'm looking for work because if I'm not doing network marketing,
that's not enough to make money right now.
That takes time.
I get that.
But there's a limited resources and I'm running out of money and I'm getting scared.
Yeah.
And we know that fear doesn't come from him, right?
So maybe he doesn't want you to have a job.
Well, and I think you're right, because I've got so much skill and so much job, but yet
in my mind, because I'm, I can be very analytical.
The engineering thought process that I have is, okay, so how do I make money?
Go ahead.
That's asking the right questions, right?
Like, but just, but asking those questions and, you know, so my daughter,
she's tried so many different things.
She's tried sports.
She's tried singing.
She's tried instruments.
She's tried so many different things.
And I'm talking to her in the car and I'm like, okay, what are you going to do next?
What do you want to try?
And she's like, mom, I just don't think I meant to do any of these things.
And I'm like, what do you mean?
She goes, well, I'm just not very good at any of them.
And I'm like, what are you talking about?
Spring?
She's like, well, I just, you know, I just, I gave up on all of them and I just quit all
of them.
And I'm just not very good at any of them.
And.
I said to her.
I said, Sabrina, nobody is ever good at anything
the first time they try it.
I mean, maybe one in a million people,
but it comes from the practice
and the discipline and the learning.
And if you feel like this is where you're meant to be,
then just keep at it and keep going.
She was so good at those things, at every single one of them.
She was so good at them and she couldn't see it.
And so she quit.
And I didn't realize that was what was going on
in her little brain.
I thought she was just trying to be, you know,
argumentative or just lazy, you know,
but that's what was going on in her brain
is that she couldn't see it,
but she was good at each and every one of those things.
And if she had just stuck with it
and she had just persisted and pursued and practiced
and learned what worked, what didn't work,
what was the wrong way, what was the right way,
she would have developed that and honed that skill
and developed into the person that she was meant to be.
And so I can't help but feel
that that's what's going on for you
is that there's something that God is trying to show you
and say, Lisa, this is what you're meant to be
and you're not seeing it
because we're stuck in our own frame of mind.
And so I obviously don't know what that is
that has to come from you,
but maybe it's once you start the book,
maybe it's once you release,
okay, God, if you want me to get a job, I'll get a job.
If you want me to go into entrepreneurship,
I'll go into entrepreneurship.
Once you release that,
maybe that's when things start opening up for you
because honestly, when I do that,
it's like, bam, I get hit with so many amazing things.
Maybe not right away, but in due time,
when I'm finally like, okay,
I don't know what's going on here,
but maybe it's this, maybe it's that,
this is what you wanna do.
I'm moving forward with this.
If it's the wrong thing, close the door.
If it's the right thing, open it.
And you just see what opens up.
And Rebecca, go ahead.
Is it okay if I share something on this?
Because Lisa, I can still relate to you.
And Monday night we were on the call with Dion
and I related to what you shared then
about I know what God says about me.
Like I believe that I'm accepted and forgiven and loved.
I know it logically.
And yet internally partnering
and totally agreeing with that knowing
is a different thing.
Like living it out as though I really, really believe
it is a different thing.
And I'm like, I get that so, so much.
I wanted to share this
because your concern around finances.
I just heard from the Lord a couple of weeks ago.
I was really, really deep in prayer
and I heard something so specifically.
And he said, stop seeking my provision,
start seeking me as your provider.
And I was like, whoa, what do you mean?
What do you mean?
And what I'm getting is,
it's not about what I can do and what I'm able to do
and what you believe I can do.
It's about who I am and who I get to be in you.
Totally different, right?
And so as you were speaking,
I was having a couple of things come up around.
It's this belief.
Cause if you really believed what he said about you,
that he's gonna prosper you and not harm you.
He's gonna open doors no man can shut.
He's got a hope and a future for you.
Your royalty, the daughter of the most high,
whether it's a job or business or provision
or whatever it is you're trusting him for,
even the health of your new kitten,
it's, well, who am I?
Who have I been to you?
And who am I to you right now?
What do you have access to?
Right?
It's all of it.
And I'm trying to adopt that too.
I told Ray this after our call with Dion,
it's like, this is challenging me
because it's like, I know it's true and I believe it,
but I haven't been living it out.
Like I really believe it.
And I think that's the difference.
I don't know if that helps, but I had to share that.
Thank you.
That's huge.
It's such a hard thing.
That's huge.
It's everything from the head to the heart.
Logically, we know, right?
It's amazing.
I literally had a dream that I had gray hair.
Okay, so I looked in the mirror like this
and I saw a ton of gray hair at my roots.
And it was one of those very vivid dreams,
which I have rarely.
I have those rare, vivid dreams
where you feel like you're there
and you feel like you're in a different realm, right?
One time was the recurring dreams that I had before Israel,
just wild how all of that came about.
I won't share that now,
but if you haven't heard me tell that,
it's pretty profound.
But I had this dream that I had this gray hair.
And then when I woke up, like as I'm waking up,
I heard, now your eyes are opened.
Like, what does that mean?
And later I found out from a friend of mine,
who's a pastor,
that when you have those dreams of gray hair,
that means wisdom.
And...
And then two nights later, I go to sleep and I'm
Woken up by the feeling which I've only had this one other time in my life
the feeling of
How do I describe it like a
Veil being scraped
across my right eye
Like off of my right eye like it was like peeling a paper imagine that there's a paper
Peeling a paper off of my right eye
And
Since that time I've realized how
Greatly I've surrendered to everything that he wants because I really believe that we know what he wants
We already know what he wants
But we're so stubborn
We're so resistant. We're so caught up in our circumstances
we are so just
Just trying to get by each and every day
Right and thinking that we know better even though we know logically just like what Rebecca shared. We know logically what that means
that we still
Make things mean stuff
They don't mean and go in directions that we're not supposed to go and we're all guilty of it
there's not a soul on the planet that isn't and
But just since that profound experience
which was only a few weeks ago, and I think I share almost every time on this call that like I'm I'm
entering into a new level of surrender almost every single day and
It's been incredible to just be in this space I can't describe it to you
I can only share with words the experience
but
It's incredible to be in that space because if you really look at the worst of the worst of the worst of what could happen
To you, it's really not that bad
You have a whole community around you
They would never ever let you be on the streets
They would never ever let you go hungry
They would never ever let you suffer to the degree of I'm sure what you've worried about
ever
You have a community around you
It's so true and you're so loved and there's so many people in this community that love you
That would never let that happen to you
Thank you
You don't have to thank me
So walking in that
Because like my birth family won't give me the time of day and it's just it's it's confirmation it's
It's the opposite of what the enemy is telling me thank you for helping me redirect those thoughts
Because it's it it's
I
may not
physically be able to touch you and hug you and see everybody in this community as
I really need because that's my number one love language is physical touch and I live alone and it's really challenging
But with that it's I'm very grateful
And I'm thankful that yeah
Thank you for that. That helps tremendously
I'm so glad and
with that
There's a new level with that level of freedom
There's a new level of possibility
So another thing that opened up for me really grasping this week is that actually true freedom is obedience and
Surrender not rebellion and we live in a culture that believes that true freedom comes from rebellion
When actually that's
That's a
It's a it's a fearful place to be
Because it's spawned from fear, right? Well, no, you're not gonna tell me what to do
you're not gonna which you know, there's a level of that that is
spawning from the truth horse, but
When you come from a place of I'm just listening to what God's telling me
And you just surrender and release the rebellion in our hearts, which is really hard to do
do. I'm not an expert at it in any way, shape or form. I can be the most stubborn person
on the planet, to be honest with you. Just ask my husband. But that's true freedom, right?
Not like, well, I just have to get in there and do it my way, do it this way. That's not
freeing to anybody. And it's so counterintuitive to what we're taught from such a young age,
you know, especially as Americans. And I love my country. And I believe we're the most amazing
country. Sorry, Rebecca. I don't disagree. Yeah. Because of, you know, because of some
of those principles that we've been taught, but the principles have been so tattered from
the Christian foundation that they were introduced with. Not to get into this too deeply, but each
of the 13 colonies had their own statement of faith, and they originally founded. So it's when
you read those, and you look into that, it's, it's interesting to see how that, that level of
freedom has been transformed into what we now have, which is rebellion. So anyway, just food
for thought. But with all of that, I did want to share that there's two ways that I really see the
future of entrepreneurship and the future of kingdom growth. And that's through networking and
through information. And that really hasn't changed. But it's becoming more and more important. So
your circle is becoming more and more important. And how people are getting their information is
becoming more and more important. So if you're not focusing on those two things throughout your
week, you're going to fall behind. And I think, you know, God places both of those in huge, within
huge importance, because this is the way that we get his message out as well. So if you're not
going to master the information space, and some people won't, and that's okay. I'm, I'm definitely
not one of those of the mindset that if you that you have to be a YouTube sensation, like, I think
it helps, I think why not, it's free, you might as well, keep, you know, keep that information train
going. YouTube shorts right now, especially are just amazing. But I don't think you have to go
that route. What I do believe is of utmost importance is your circle, your network, the new people that
you're meeting each and every day. And so if you just focus on those two things, combine them, one
each day, or just your network, if you just focused on the people in your circle, and who you're
communicating with, and who you're now getting to know, and just following in God's flow of, okay,
should I go to this event? Should I meet this new person? Should I reach out to this person? Should I
call this person? Should I Facebook message this person? Should I join this group? We have so much
access to that network to increase our circle and grow our circle of influence each and every day.
And out of fear out of our own headspace out of the enemy talking to us with all these negative
thoughts, we focus on those things versus the two things in our world that's going to make a huge
difference both personally, financially, kingdom wise, and that's our circle of influence. And so I
just encourage you Lisa this week to especially because of who you are and where your heart is, but
this goes for everybody. Increase that circle every day and not be addicted to how they respond.
But, but life really comes down to that. And I've learned that many times over in the last 15 years of just
being an entrepreneur. It's really not about what I'm doing. It is but it isn't. It's really not about that
you're meant to write a book. It's about the people that you're going to meet, the people you're going to
influence with that book, the people involved, the publishers, the people you need to talk to to get it
rolling, the ideas, the idea flow, all the people around you in those different seasons of life. That's
really what it's about. And when you have a solid network of people who know you like you and trust
you, and unfortunately, we get away from this online, although, again, it's helpful, but it's not the
end all be all.
all, the further away we get from our from our purpose, right? You can't just hide behind a
computer screen. And that's what a lot of people want to do. So I encourage you this week, with
these new revelations to see, okay, in my area, what's going on? Where am I supposed to go? Lord,
am I supposed to go to book signings, you know, for new authors? Like, where, where can I expand
my circle of influence with the right type of people? Maybe it's Christian authors.
Maybe it's getting in those groups. But we need to stop overcomplicating. It doesn't need to be
super complex. It may be uncomfortable. It may be hard. It may be, you know, challenging,
but it doesn't need to be complicated. That's not a word that God uses either.
We don't need to be confused, right? That spirit of confusion.
So does that help? Yes, very much. And I've, I'm, my stubbornness bucks the whole online
meeting new friends, because here where I live, I'm not meeting new friends. So I'm planning to
move. There's too many. Yeah, it's just, it's not a good culture in Port Charlotte at all.
So I'm looking to move where it's cooler. And just start fresh come December 1st is my goal.
Hmm. Because my lease is up at the end of November and spending $2,000 a month for rent
is throwing God's money away. My mortgage was only $950 in Texas. So I'm like, Nah,
we ain't doing this no more. It just doesn't feel right. But yes, everything you said,
to increase my circle, which is make a new friend every day. Basically, yeah.
And I want to encourage your mindset around that, of what you just said, and help maybe with some,
some framing that would help in that, if he wants you there, it doesn't matter what your,
what your payment is. The monetary value really means nothing to him. It's the people value,
right? So if he wants you there, he's going to provide for, for what that looks like, but maybe
he doesn't. And if you're, if he's selling you, Lisa, you need to be more fiscally responsible
here than, okay, listen to that. But you know, to, it's all, it's all perspective, right? To a
bazillionaire, 2000 a month is like, wow, that's awesome. Amazing. But if you know, you're scraping
by, then that's a lot of money. And that's a lot of, lot of hours to work for that money. So it's
all, it's all perspective and how you look at it and the lens through which you look at those
things. So instead of looking at it as, oh my gosh, I'm not doing what I'm supposed to be doing.
I'm not being financially responsible, really like planning into that and praying into that
non-emotionally of where am I meant to be non-emotionally, which is hard, may open up some
new, new ideas and new doors for you. Thank you. Maybe you're meant to be our neighbor.
Well, you know, and when I moved here, I, I prayed and God said Naples and I went, cool.
So you're not in Naples. I'm not in Naples. This is true. Isn't that interesting?
I didn't listen.
And you went, cool, that's cool. But I'm going to go here instead.
All right.
It probably was a conversation of I, Naples is really expensive. Well, if he wants Naples,
then he'll find a way, but, and now you're in Port Charlotte and maybe, you know, I'm not,
I'm of course half joking, but isn't that funny? Yeah, totally ridiculous. Well, and see me,
my heart was, I want to be near my aunt and uncle. Well, now I haven't even spoke to them
since Christmas because my aunt is a total narcissist, control freak, and I don't want
to be around that. So it is what it is. Life happens. Absolutely. There you are.
What else is on your heart? Anything?
no just i've pretty much yeah i've given you i've emptied the bag for you i think that was it
thank you well if you if you feel complete you feel complete um but i just wanted to
open up the space one more time and see if there's something else
yeah you've given me a lot to ponder and pray over and and search my heart
thank you of course we love you and i love you too i do so much and i'm so thankful
so so thankful i can't wait to give you a big hug when i see you next
well i can drive there you're only an hour away okay well make it happen captain
i will ping you yes bug time where will you be
exactly okay well enjoy your day can't wait to connect next time and uh and i hope that this
and filled your filled your bucket it has it has and i have i have more
i have peace i mean it's it's it's been it's been a roller coaster and it's it's
time for peace and time for productivity time for for blessings there you go peace
there you go
i'll be praying that for you too thank you of course all right
see you later and bye rebecca we miss you too so likewise i could get in on those hugs too by the
yes i'm just saying yeah we're gonna start the train bye ladies