Now I'm recording.
Thank you, Sam. Love it.
Awesome. Okay. So yes,
we've got seven questions here up and running here for you ladies.
So I'm glad that we caught the recording before we got those questions.
So I appreciate it.
I see a few more questions here in the chat.
I forget how to pronounce your name already.
I'm horrible with names.
It's X-I-O. How do I pronounce your name? Where's she at?
Hi, I'm Xiomara.
Xiomara?
Yeah.
How do I pronounce that again?
You can call me Xio for short.
Xio, okay.
To C-O-C-O-M-A-R-A.
C-O-M-A-R-A.
Yes.
All right. I see your question in your chat.
The widow I posted about went on a third date,
didn't respond to you about going to the quinceanera.
The party was this weekend.
He messaged me last night and said, hi.
I responded this morning and said the same and that was it.
Okay. So you've been on three dates.
Yes. There was a pause between our,
my birthday was in July.
We went out on our first date on my birthday.
He brought me flowers.
It was very nice.
I commute to San Antonio and I live in Eagle Pass in a small town.
So I have a friend who has hosted me in our home
and she knows him since a long time ago.
She's like 76 years old.
But the reason I'm giving you this background story is that
I had my battery break down and I didn't have anybody to help me.
And he was out there and I asked him for help and he helped me.
And my, yeah, it was, he even paid for my battery actually.
Yeah. He was a total gentleman.
He's a believer.
But I couldn't share this with my friend
because she immediately became like jealous of it.
And the 60 year old friend that knows him?
The 70, yeah, 75 year old friend.
She was angry.
He was, he, so on the first day, right, that he, he jump-started my car.
I went to AutoZone.
They checked my battery and they said my battery was fine.
So I went back to the house.
He was still there and I told him what had happened.
And he said, I think your battery is the issue.
You need to just take it to the dealership.
And I said, you know what?
I have to, if it doesn't start in the morning, can I call you?
I, you know, I'll, I'll ask my friend Josie.
So she can give me your number or, you know,
she could text you if you could help me.
I didn't want to be like, oh, can I have your number?
Things, I don't know.
But anyway, so then the next morning when I asked her
if she could help me or reach out to him, she was,
she made a total like anger face.
So that was really uncomfortable.
I didn't know what was going on.
And she came up with a list of other people that could help me.
And you know, oh, my niece can help you.
Or later on when she was trying to give you someone else to come help.
Yeah.
Okay.
Until she finally decided to give me his number.
She goes, I'm not going to text him.
And she gave me his number.
And he didn't, you know, respond right away.
But that was fine.
And she dropped me off work.
And on my way to work, he responded.
And he was there by the time I got back again.
And that's how the story went.
But yeah, so.
So this was all in July?
Yeah, this was all in July.
So he's a gentleman.
He's got some good fruit.
Like he's great.
Okay, so you guys have hung out.
Was there like a little time where you guys didn't hang out?
Yes.
And was it because of her?
Or was this because?
Yes, because he said that I'm staying with her.
And he didn't want to cause any problems between us.
Yeah, so he just, you know, like, let it go.
And then I think months passed.
And I sent him a friend request.
And he texted me.
He's like, I thought you had forgotten about me.
And I said, same.
Yeah, I don't remember exactly when this was.
Maybe September.
But anyway.
So a couple of weeks ago, he was cutting her yard again, and I texted him and said,
you're here. He goes, yeah, I was like, I can't believe that you left without saying hi.
And again, my friend was there, I got inside the house, and I could tell she was like making the
prolonging the conversation, so I wouldn't go outside and talk to him. You know, I, I didn't
see him. He was in the backyard when I got there. So I just didn't want to interrupt while he was
working. But he's like, yeah, he's like, hey, invite me to invite me to dinner. He said that
to you. He said that to me. He's like, invite me to dinner. And I said, okay. And at the dinner,
he was gonna pay. And I was like, well, no, it's okay. You know, he had already said invite me to
dinner. So I, I paid. And he offered to cook for me the next time that we went out. And he did
cook for me. He was, you know, there's no boundaries crossed or anything like that.
You know, he still wears his wedding band. Okay. And it's been five years since he's been widowed.
Um, yeah, so I, I asked him if he wanted to go do the quinceañera. Obviously, we've had a lot of long
conversations initially, which, after listening to Dating 101, I heard it's a no, no.
Yeah. Well, and those are guardrails. Like, ladies, I don't want you to think that like,
you've made a mistake, because like, these are guardrails. It doesn't mean they're hard,
fast rules. Okay. Every situation is going to be different. Okay. So don't beat yourself up on that.
Okay. Okay. It's just about keeping things, again, at a pacing. The first thing I think
we need to address is this friend. Have you and him talked about what this looks like
as far as this friend's reaction to y'all getting to know each other?
We talked about it. And he's like, he's like, I've never given her like, I've never flirted with her
or he's like, what are your thoughts? He's like, do you think that we had something
previously? We've never had anything previously. I've always been respectful. You know, I just
know if in her heart, she has something towards me. But I've never given her a reason to. And I
think that recently, you know, she gave him like a really big tip, like $150 tip. He didn't tell me
it was her. But I think it was because she had some extra money. And yeah, yeah, I mean, the
thing that's coming to my mind, and again, I'm terrible at quoting scripture. So ladies,
please forgive me. And I'm sure there's some of you ladies in here are going to be able to help
me out. The scripture about like, when we have like a fence with someone, like we need to take
it to them. I think it's in Matthew. Yeah. Like, it's really important that we go to the person
that, you know, if there's a fence being taken, like we need to go to that person.
Yeah. Have you like, so you've watched Dating 101? Have you watched the boundaries video?
I just watched it this this weekend. Yeah. Okay. I need to hear it again.
Yeah, go back and rewatch the boundaries. Yeah. Healthy conflict is good.
And I did ask her, you know, do you have, because even before I was like, do you want me to meet him
Do you have something against me not meeting him? She said, No, no, no, not at all.
So you brought that to her and she's saying no, but she's responding differently.
Confront her about that. And you can do it in a kind way. It does not have to be in a way that
you are putting her on the defense. Be like, look, I've come to thank you, Sam. 1815 Matthew 1815.
You can come here and say, Look, I care about our friendship. I care about your feelings.
I asked you if it would bother you if I get to know this man, you told me it didn't.
But your actions feel like you believe otherwise. These are the behaviors that I'm seeing.
And this is how I'm perceiving them. Is there truth behind that?
Where do you think that comes from? Like, ask her, where do you think that comes from?
Am I seeing this wrong? Or is this? Is it possible? I am
and seeing something that might be there
that maybe you're not aware of.
I mean, there's ways at approaching a conversation
and having confrontation in a healthy way,
like healthy communication, healthy dialogue,
healthy conflict.
And I've asked you this, you've told me you don't,
but this is still what I'm seeing.
And I value our friendship.
I don't want this to get in the way,
but I also want to get to know this guy.
Yeah, that was prior to him helping me.
So it was sad, to me it was really sad.
Because I didn't understand why.
I think once you can get to that,
my advice would be once you can get some resolve there,
then you can kind of see where this goes.
Because you really can't, you can't get to know someone
if you've got this like looming person over here,
this like, that's, I mean, that's hard.
Right, ladies?
Like, how can you really feel comfortable
getting to know someone
if you feel like there's this third person over here
that's just like not comfortable
with you getting to know somebody?
You can't even really give it a real shot.
Yeah.
You know?
What if she says she likes him?
Then she's gonna have to go sort that out with him.
Okay.
Maybe you can introduce her to this community.
Right, I mean?
She swears that she's, you know,
the love of her life was the love of her life,
and that's it.
And ladies, just remember, like, we can't,
we can't force someone to get their own healing.
We're not their savior.
We can't.
You know, we can love people, we can care about people,
we can, you know, give them wisdom,
we can encourage them, we can, you know,
direct them in a direction
where they can seek the help and the guidance
that, you know, we believe that they could benefit from,
but whether or not they decide to do that,
that's their choice.
And so if she's not willing to be honest with herself
or honest with you or honest with him,
you can't control that.
And as long as you've done your part with a pure heart,
that's all you can do.
And if you've approached it in the godly biblical way
that God's asked you to do,
there is no, like, shame or guilt
that you need to carry with that,
that should get in your way.
Okay.
Like, you can release that.
Okay.
Yeah, her daughter just had surgery this morning,
so I, probably not a good day to talk about that,
but I will.
Yeah, I definitely want to do that
because I don't want to have,
definitely, offense towards her.
And I was actually, you know,
praying about that this morning because, you know,
like, I guess like every Christian, right,
the most important thing is to walk in love
towards people and the Lord, right?
So thank you.
Thank you.
Yeah.
So he kind of, I felt ghosted by him last week,
and then he showed up last night.
So.
Yep.
So yeah, like, and then Alexander's like,
well, what does she do if the friend says she likes him?
Well, then that's going to be something that she,
that other woman, her friend,
and the guy's going to have to sort out,
and then the guy's going to have to kind of figure that out.
And then she's going to kind of have to,
like, then she can come back to a community here.
There's probably going to be more details at that point,
you know?
And then again, it's speaking the Lord,
and we can take the next step.
I definitely don't want it to be a triangle, you know,
because remember I stay there three days a week,
you know, and basically I'm very thankful
for her to host me.
Yeah, exactly.
So that's what I'm saying.
Like, go to her first, see what happens.
If she does have feelings for him,
again, that's something that she's going to have to sort out
with him.
It's important that he probably knows,
and then y'all can go from there.
But we don't want to put the cart before the horse,
one thing at a time.
We want to do one resolve at a time.
Because we could see here,
what if this person does this?
And what if this?
what if this and then yeah you're right that's when we can get into our anxious and anxious thoughts
other things yeah you're right one of the other things that she tells me often is uh oh um my
i didn't go looking for love you know love came looking for me and i was like oh but didn't you
have a friend who who said hey i know this guy who's single and that's how you like hooked up
and um i don't even know why i i just feel like there's not like real encouragement also behind
that um you know her kids have been on dating apps i'm not in the dating app because i freaked
out about it like i still have that phobia so yeah and again like you know we have to remember
to guard our hearts too because everybody has wounds and everybody has you know stories of
dating and relationships and you know they're gonna come with advice and you know wisdom that
might not be from a healthy healed place so i mean it sounds like you know that could be from
where she's at not saying that she doesn't have wisdom um and that there's not things that she's
able to share with you but we also have to be guarding our hearts as well as what we're
allowing to come in as well and you know this could be an opportunity for you to share with
her about this program that you're in and the and the healing that you've received and maybe
it's something that you can offer her an invitation to receive as well yeah i don't think she'll
like everyone has free will no i i unfortunately see that's where i'm already lacking love because
i no longer trust her uh based on previous experience even if i wanted to i don't feel like
i feel like i'm gonna be a little judged or criticized we can unpack you know more if we
need to but let's just start there keep us posted you know post as many times in the app as you need
to okay we'll walk along this with you okay thank you so much for taking my my question i
didn't even expect it thank you always you got it all right karen i see yours in the chat i'm
gonna get to some of my ladies that had their hands up and then i'll come back to you karen
if you are on if you can just throw your hand up so i do not forget about your question in the chat
um because sometimes the chat can get clogged and i will forget so if you throw your hand up
your avatar hand if you can um and kelly she's got she's gonna come back on the replay that's
good um if you go to react karen i think you might be at work um you can always put your hand up that
way i'm i won't call on you i'll just scroll back to the thing if you can't um unmute all right sam
what's what you got for us today okay you always keep me like you keep me in check like
you need to be like my little secretary that helps me out here
now what i'm gonna do when you move to phase three i don't know
i don't plan on going anytime soon anyways
i'm still i'm halfway through the boundaries video and that's all i have left and i'm like
you don't have to leave right away so i've gone i've done five of the seven
so far and i was sort of taking a little break you know after just discovering some things
and this weekend i had a um we celebrated the festival of boots in our community with my friend
group um so they said bring your guitar i brought my guitar i helped lead worship with this other
guy named joshua um he he and i just flowed so well in worship the whole time and like afterwards
we just like stood in this like super long hug for the longest time afterwards like there was
just so much like connection there but through like our our purpose and passion of worship
you know and so um i guess this is more like heartwork for me because i don't know if there's
actually anything there or not you know like on his end romantically but like i can feel myself
like dreaming about this and i'm a little bit afraid that it's like
to that point of i just want to hear your perspective on it okay the first thing yeah um
that's a spiritual intimacy
and that's okay like that happens when we're in worship like there is a spiritual intimacy there
yeah okay there's nothing wrong with having spiritual intimacy with people
okay but that's kind of that tug of what you're feeling
Okay, and it's, that's where that confusion is coming, like, because you do, you desire
this intimacy, because with your husband, you are, you're going to have all of these
levels of intimacy with the husband, with the spirit mate, okay?
And so it's what you desire.
So again, like you have this spiritual intimacy with someone that you've just had this worship
with and it's there and it's beautiful.
But now you're like, what is this?
Right?
I don't know what to make of this.
I'm confused now.
So we don't want you operating in confusion.
No.
Okay, so now, is this someone that you see often?
I have never seen him before.
Okay.
I don't know, like, what church he goes to.
I know that he, it's apparent he's involved in the community that I'm a part of.
Okay.
You know, but he's actually, we talked a little bit.
He's only been saved for like three years.
Okay.
Definitely, like, I've been asking the Lord, like, well, the Lord spoke to me a long time
ago that whoever my husband is, he's going to be a worshiper.
I don't know exactly what that means, but like, I was hoping for someone who was also
musically inclined.
Yeah.
One thing that I can say, because you're telling me like, now you're kind of thinking like,
oh, could this be, could this, you know, okay.
Maybe he is, maybe he isn't, but we want to keep you guarded here.
Protected.
So my, my suggestion, my encouragement would be is do a soul tie release.
Release this guy as a soul tie, but you can still be open to Lord.
If this is someone that you do intend for me to get to know on a level, I want you to
open doors where doors need to be open.
Lord, I trust you to confirm this for me.
Lord, show me what I need to do next.
Lord, I release any spiritual soul tie with this man that you are going to direct me to
who my spirit mate is.
And Lord, I thank you for showing me that there are good.
Godly worshiping men out there.
Cause this is what I desire in someone like, hold, oh, I got goosebumps on this one.
Like what a blessing you desire a worshiper and God is showing you that those men exist.
Sam, whether this man is your spirit mate or not, God sees you and he's showing you,
he has a spirit mate for you.
And you don't have to be confused.
God is not a God of confusion.
Amen.
Yes.
So release that break the soul tie, any spiritual intimacy that, you know,
could create any confusion.
We're going to break that off.
So good.
Going to give that back to God.
You are God defended.
You are God protected.
He has got good, good things for you.
Amen.
And you've just confirmed like prophetic words that have been spoken over me about open doors.
Okay.
Literally someone gave me a prophetic word about like, you're going to,
there's going to be relationships that the Lord's going to turn up the volume on some
turned down the volume on others.
And he's already been speaking to me about releasing music,
but I don't have any production experience.
And this guy, like, that's his passion is to do basically what we did on Saturday,
but record it and release it.
And I'm like, okay, I'm there.
He's gathering.
You're just in a lot.
Yeah.
You're going in alignment again.
Like, that's the thing is like, you're on the right path.
We just never know what it looks like.
Right.
You know?
And again, that's when that's when the enemy wants to come in and confuse us because yes,
he has a spirit mate for you, but he also has these things that God wants to do.
Like it's that just destiny DNA.
Like Jackie talked about this a lot.
When I joined this program, destiny DNA, but ladies,
when you can get a hold of what it is that God has purposed you for.
And if you walk in that, guess what?
The spirit mate is, is partnered with that really is.
I remember when I was praying for my husband, I wasn't sure if I was supposed to leave my job.
I was a waitress.
Okay.
I'd been a school teacher.
And then I left that job because I was a single mom.
And I was like being a school teacher and a single mom.
Like, this is, I don't know what I'm supposed to do.
I went back to waitressing because it was a lot easier to manage.
I made a lot more money doing that than teaching, unfortunately.
And I'm like, maybe I'm not supposed to be waitressing.
And God's like, no, you're right where you need to be.
You and your husband are going to have business.
together, and I thought it was crazy. I was like, that's not my thing. Ladies, I stuck with that
job, but I kept doubting. I'm like, maybe I'm not supposed to. Ladies, my marriage is my ministry.
My family is my ministry. Jackie gave me a prophetic word when I first joined this program
that the enemy stole my ministry. I never thought I was going to have a ministry.
I still sometimes, I'm like, I don't even know what that looks like.
I don't come from a religious background. I didn't grow up in the church,
but God has anointed me in this program. He brought me to Jackie to unleash an anointing
for this revival of kingdom, marriage, and family. I would have never guessed
that God put me on this path. I stayed in that job, and there are still times.
Ladies, I'll be honest with you. I don't typically like to share this stuff. I honestly
try to keep some of this private, but I'm in the thick of it right now. It's not bad. It's good,
but the enemy is trying to shake me. But our assignment, God's called us to that,
and our marriages are part of that, believe it or not. When you have a destiny DNA,
and you stay in alignment with that, sometimes it's going to be connected to your husband,
and sometimes it's going to be, it's all interconnected. It really is.
So just stand firm on that truth that God has it. He's working all of these
puzzle pieces intricately together. But she gave me a prophetic word like,
when the enemy stole your ministry, he's going to return it to you. When the enemy stole,
God wants you to know he's going to restore. I thought she was nuts. When she told me this,
when she had this prophetic word to me, she told me my car was stolen.
She didn't know when I first moved to Florida, I had my car stolen. When I was sitting on this call
with her, I had just been introduced to all this prophetic stuff. I don't know,
if some of you might have heard this story, I think a couple of weeks ago, I might've shared
how I didn't grow up in a prophetic church, charismatic, anything like that.
I started having visions before I joined this community, and I thought, y'all, I had a brain
tumor. I didn't know what it was. I joined this community, and God really started showing me,
this is a gift. I'm kidding you. You're not sick. I was new to this whole prophetic word thing,
and I'm like, okay, I'm on this Zoom call, right? I'm like, I don't believe this. There's no way
God is speaking these things. No. I'm on this call for an hour, and I'm like, well,
if they've got prophetic words for me, God, you're going to have to make this
very apparent, because I don't know if I believe this. When Jackie's like, you had your car stolen,
how does she know that? She's like, oh, you really did? She's like, well, I didn't mean
literally, but sometimes it can be literally, but no, I mean it this way. Typically, a car
represents ministry. It literally shook me, y'all. Then I had other dreams about vehicles.
On Bethany's wedding, the night of Bethany's wedding, I had a dream about a big giant SUV,
and Jackie was in the dream, and my husband was there. I didn't see him,
but Jackie was telling my husband, she's not ready yet. Just wait. I'm like, why would you
send him away? God had told me my husband wasn't ready, which was true. My husband wasn't ready
during that time, but then he was ready, and then apparently I wasn't.
She sent him away in this dream, and I'm like, why would you do that? Because I wasn't ready.
I wasn't ready to move. Once I released and was ready to move, that's when it all worked out.
Now I truly believe, and then I had this opportunity to come coach you ladies in this
program. God is just working some amazing things out for blended family and marriage and
doing some incredible things in my life and my kids' lives. It doesn't mean that it's easy.
Y'all, it's hard. The enemy is on full attack, y'all.
Thank you.
Those moments of discouragement that you ladies are feeling, just know, I get it.
But know that this community, we're here praying for you.
We all have to be in here praying together.
I want to encourage you to get on those prayer calls.
Pray for each other. Pray for us leaders.
Please. Pray for Jackie. Pray for Bethany. Pray for me. Pray for Ebony.
Ladies, like, the enemy is constantly at us leaders.
He's constantly at you too.
But guess what? Jesus died on the cross, and he's the victor.
So as much as the enemy wants to distract us and tire us out,
and make us think that we're defeated,
we come together, and we say no.
We hold on to that truth.
Because Jesus has already won.
Therefore, we've already won.
And so the way we get through that is we come together, and we lift each other up.
So that was Holy Spirit, because I wasn't even going to share any of that.
Well, and I have to believe too that even if this is not it,
then this is awesome, and I know that God has something better than I can ask, think, or imagine.
So if it's not it, he is going to have something for me that's even better.
It's even better.
Yes. Thanks so much today.
I don't know who posted. If you're on this call, throw it up in the chat.
Someone had shared something about, maybe it was you, Karina.
I don't know why. Maybe it's you.
About trusting and letting go.
And I was like, the thing that came into my mind, and Bethany shared this with me several times too.
The teddy bear.
How many of you have seen that picture of this little girl holding this teddy bear,
and she's in front of Jesus, and she's handing it over to Jesus,
and you can just see, she's got kind of tears in her eyes,
and she doesn't want to give this cute little teddy bear over to Jesus.
And he's just like, trust me.
And she doesn't see it, but behind him, he's got this massive, giant teddy bear.
We don't see that, but he knows.
I know it's hard to sometimes see,
but when we borrow the faith of each other,
that's how we get through this.
That's why coming to these calls, that's why being rooted in this community,
in a Bible-believing church, staying connected with each other,
it's so important.
Do not isolate yourself.
Get out in community. Come here.
Share with us in the app.
Show up.
Because, ladies, the enemy is going to come and attack you.
He does not want God's promises in your life.
Because he knows if God fulfills those promises in your life,
that means destruction for him.
So he's going to keep you from that.
That's what he wants.
Y'all, that's why I literally, I'm like, two years of being married,
and like, oh, it's such a great blessing.
I'm like, oh, my life is going to be so much more wonderful once I get married.
Ladies, I was on the side that you all are sitting on.
Just so badly, if I just was married, everything would be better.
Ladies, I was there.
And then I met my husband, and everything was great.
Oh, we're planning a wedding. It's going to be great.
Y'all, the enemy came.
And he's still coming.
I wish I could tell you it's easy.
It's not. It's not.
Especially if you're going to be blending a family.
It's not.
But I will tell you, I know it's God,
because the enemy wouldn't be working so hard.
So it keeps me fighting, because I know God has a plan and a purpose.
And he's got a plan and a purpose for you.
So when you are discouraged and you feel like, what is this?
Y'all, let that be an encouragement to you that you are on the right path,
and that God has it for you.
You wouldn't be discouraged if God didn't have it for you.
because the enemy wouldn't be trying to discourage you period.
So let that let that amp you up ladies let that literally ignite fire in you to fight
all right join hands with your sisters here
don't back down
do the uncomfortable things show up here stretch yourself make mistakes
oh make all the mistakes ladies y'all i made so many mistakes i still make mistakes can i tell
you all the mistakes i make with my kids daily blending a family i'm making mistakes constantly
constantly but you know what god purposed me for these kids
and he purposed those kids for me too
god's got a plan and a purpose for you he's got the big giant teddy bear for you
gotta believe that all right ladies okay i got so many so many hands up i want to make
time for y'all so we're gonna we're gonna go through this okay all right kim kathleen
sia um i'm gonna start with you short brief powerful okay so just uh real quick um you
asked me to verify that i got the notification of the reschedule but when when they sent when
reagan sent the reschedule it says um it doesn't give me the time zone so i'm still confused
so it says it was rescheduled for friday at 12 but it doesn't say if that's my time or your time
i'm assuming it's yours wait a second i will confirm that with you right now thank you you
are welcome um that's 12 my time okay which will be 10 okay very good thank you okay okay i am
i am i don't feel bad because i can't tell you how many times i've done that
i don't even know where my brain was but um i have a phone i'm learning to use my phone calendar
and i'm doing pretty good but um but it's still you know there are challenges but um okay so i
just wanted to share something that i i i know that god directed me to and might be very helpful
to others and um and i know and i know there's a caution about sharing resources but it's a
fear about um not fear more more dread that's a better word dread of online websites you know
that because i've shared that just about all the scamming that goes on and i'm like you're wasting
my time my time is valuable i don't even want to i don't feel like putting myself out there
because of that but um i watched this documentary and it was it was just uh um done in may of this
year so it's brand new or for pretty new and and it addressed the the techniques and methods
that people use to scam online daters and it was so such good information because it helped
alleviate some of the fears i have because i thought well if i just ask for a video call
right away that'll knock out about half of them because they they won't respond right well what
i found out on that documentary was that ai is so good now that even the online video calls
they can put a face of a person on there and speak through that face and it looks like the
person's actually talking to you yes i have seen that i will tell you that that is it's very hard
to get those kinds of um software but it's not but it's not like yes you are right but i will say
like we had a lady gosh it was probably maybe a year ago she actually had some discernment where
she felt like the video was a little off right and so again just trust your yeah just trust your
spirit discernment and be looking for other things it's why again we teach you ladies
don't share personal information don't give out your phone number until you
really have known them don't let them know where you live um right like there's certain like we
want you making sure you're making safe choices but right and and one of the things that i learned
though that i felt was super valuable was that one of the one of the experts came on and said
if you ask them to stand up and turn around and sit back down ai cannot do that yet
there you go okay so it's a way it gave me a tool that I could that sort of will
calm my dread about it because I can ask for that and even the the best systems
and software cannot fool someone you asking them to do that so I'm just
saying and you can and when you're having conversations with guys like a
masculine mature man and you can just say hey look this is new for me I have
you know online dating is something new I really uncomfortable with it I hear
these horror stories it would make me feel more comfortable if we had a video
call and I know this sounds crazy but would you mind I know standing up and
guess what ladies a masculine mature man it's gonna honor and respect your
country yeah for sure he's not going like your husband is going to want you
to feel secure and safe right period yeah and if the guy has got an attitude
about it whether he's fake or not yeah boy bye yeah well I just I felt so
empowered by just knowing that little trick that I feel like you know what
okay I can go back on now and I have something that I can use to give my you
know to bring you are you're looking at the things that you're afraid of or that
you're dreading and you're willing to be open to look at it head-on and you're
partnering with Holy Spirit and saying look I'm willing to stretch myself I'm
willing to get myself a little uncomfortable Lord help comfort me what
can I do and look he's showing up for you yes I totally believe me because I
honestly was not looking for that I was just relaxing last evening and I totally
believe that he let he he he gave that to me so yeah I want to show I love that
awesome I wrote that down too cuz that's something I want to like share with the
team too cuz that's I mean we're always looking at what do we need to share with
you ladies to make sure that y'all are making safe choices and staying
protected and stuff like that because we take that stuff very very seriously as
well it's why we strongly encourage you ladies you know don't be going to men's
houses don't let them come to your house I mean you need to know them for a
little while before you do that unfortunately like some some people in
the community have not taken our wisdom on that and have found themselves in
some pretty not-so-great situations so that we do take that stuff very very
seriously ladies I'm sorry there's someone at my door just ignore that so
thank you so much Kim all right Kathleen
hi she's got her hair I know I well cuz I'm yeah anyway hi I'm just an update
and a question I was met someone we had our first in-person on Thursday there
dates right we had how many did I see that you also saw each other three days
in a row well it's been five days in a row now okay from when you posted that
was okay yeah instant connection we didn't even get through half of our
because we were talking so much he asked to extend the the date I and I
just keep hearing that it's a yes until it's a no yeah so I did and then the
next day he said I'm going to San Diego I'm in Orange County so I'm going to San
Diego to visit a friend you know a guy that I'm you know I know he's
incarcerated will you come with me like no and I thought you know this will be a
good opportunity because I'm I he's inviting me into spaces where I can
observe him you know so I'm like okay and so we did it was beautiful and what
I heard in my spirit when he asked me the second time I heard ministry
opportunity I'm like okay and it was it was actually really beautiful and then
he invited me to meet his daughter okay and that was Sunday and I just was
really clear I said you will not be meeting my children that's just I like
that
that of course your mom, like I get that.
So for me, nobody's meeting my kids
until there's a ring on a finger.
Yep.
I mean, they're adults,
they live their own lives, but still.
So he is like in it to win it.
And that scares me.
Okay.
It does.
And I realized it's more about me.
I realized this is a social experiment.
Okay.
I am sitting with the Lord a lot,
sorting through all the feelings,
all the fear, all the panic.
But I do feel completely safe with him.
I feel cared for.
I am a little concerned about where he is spiritually.
I think the sincerity is there, the intent is there.
Just some yellow flags, like I need more information.
Okay.
Yep, that's totally fine.
But I don't, it just feels,
is this just normal to feel, like I feel off kilter.
Yeah, it's fine.
And I also feel because of my time,
I spent a lot of time in the secret place.
Yeah.
Historically, right?
With five years being on my own
and I feel a little unfaithful.
Because he's taking up space in my head.
Okay.
So because you've had this, you know,
more one-on-one time with the Lord in the sacred space
that now you're giving that time up for somebody else.
But again, if the Lord has,
once you partnered with someone,
do you think that the Lord is okay allowing you?
Totally, yeah.
So I mean, it's just all my apprehension, I guess.
Well, one, I think,
I love that you're still spending time with the Lord.
Like that's good.
That's really good.
Like you are, I'm hearing healthy responses from you.
Acknowledgement, like you are clarity of things.
I love that you're using it's a yes until it's a no.
And this is totally normal.
So hard.
Because it's different
because you are allowing yourself to date differently.
So guess what?
It's going to feel different.
It's going to feel a little bit uncomfortable.
It's not gonna feel normal to you.
So what you're feeling right now is normal
because it's not normal.
Does that make sense?
So give yourself grace there.
I love that you're saying, okay,
you need more information.
You have some concerns about where he's at spiritually
and you just need more information.
So be open to getting that information.
Okay, Karen, got it.
Definitely post that question in the app.
I appreciate it.
And then I'll get to your question today, okay?
And one thing I wanted to ask you,
you said he's in it to win it and it scares you
and you have this panic, but you feel safe and cared for.
So let's dive into what's this feeling of panic and scared?
Like, what is that rooted in?
If you could say like the worst fear,
like what is that one thought,
fearful thought that just replays in your head
that gives you that sense of panic?
Yeah, he is,
I think Jackie posted somewhere like men
typically know before women, okay?
But he is like, he's talking about our future.
He's talking about, and it feels sincere.
Okay.
And that scared, I'm like, can we just slow the roll, dude?
Because I hear that and I go,
and it takes me back to my marriage where,
and I did sit with the Lord with this
and the deep-rooted fear is being on the hook
and being at the mercy of somebody else's decisions.
Okay.
That terrifies me.
At mercy, okay.
So I'm trying to continue to sit with him
and to sit with this, okay, I'm just gonna,
we're just here right now and that's okay.
It's okay, and the proof is in the pudding.
We'll just see how it goes.
Okay.
Because you've only been talking now for five days.
In person, yes.
Yeah.
So I could see that.
How do you feel about setting some boundaries
to help you slow it down?
No, I told him.
I said, you need to stop talking about me being your wife.
You need to, or the future, or any of that.
You need to, because you're yet.
And what's his response?
Is he respecting that boundary?
Okay.
Yes.
I would just definitely encourage the,
like, look, slow it down.
Because like Jackie said, yeah,
the men typically will know.
Like my husband knew from the moment he saw me.
I think he even actually knew before he even met me,
like in person.
And I was like.
Yeah, it's scary.
Like, cause I had been so broken and wounded
and just, I jumped into relationships so quick.
Like I did not want to rush into anything.
So it was very important for me to kind of be like,
well, wait a second.
Like, typically I would be the rusher.
So in the fact that I had a guy trying to rush me,
I was like, well, no, wait, I'm gonna stay here.
And my husband was so respectful
of like letting me go at my pace
and just letting me kind of sit with the Lord
and letting the Lord kind of guide and direct me.
So continue to help communicate those boundaries to him.
Are y'all seeing each other in person every day?
Can we cut that back?
Yeah, I think part of that was because he leaves
on Wednesday, is that tomorrow?
And he's gone for three weeks.
And so we were kind of like accelerating,
like, is this gonna work?
It'll be good that you guys will get three weeks
without being in this.
So you guys are gonna have the physical,
not near each other.
So now let's put some boundaries off.
How often are you going to be in contact with each other?
Are you texting or are you calling on the phone
or video calling?
Now?
Yeah.
Text and phone call.
Text and phone.
Okay.
What do you think is a reasonable amount of time,
space between texting and phone call?
Like, do you think you can space it like
once every three days, once every other day?
What do you think seems reasonable?
What's gonna make you feel like,
okay, this is not feeling rushed?
What would make you most comfortable?
I think because of where we are
and there is definitely a connection, right?
I think going more than three weeks
like I feel like some connection every day,
but not all day would be okay
during this three weeks that he's gone.
Okay.
So can you put like a, hey,
can we just connect every evening?
Yeah.
Or one hour?
Yeah.
And can you keep that set?
Yeah.
And then see how he respects that boundary.
Yes.
Thank you, Jennifer.
So, so good.
Ladies, if you have to go, you're free to go.
I'll keep this going and replay.
So if you, I'll stick around for a little bit to answer.
I know I got a few more questions.
I wanna take Alexandra's question
because I think she's fairly new here.
So I definitely wanna take hers
and I definitely wanna hear from Leah.
And then Lori and Kim,
I wanna hear updates from you as well.
So, but if any of you have to leave,
by all means, feel free.
And we will keep this rolling
so you can always catch it in replay.
But don't feel like you have to hang out the whole time
because I'm gonna keep it a little bit longer
than I normally do.
But yeah.
So yes, back to Kathleen.
Let's hold it there.
See how he respects that.
Now, can we put some boundaries
on the types of things y'all talk about?
Because you wanna get some more information about him.
Like what kinds of things do you feel
like you need more information
in order to learn more about him
that's gonna make you feel like this is
yellow flags turning green or yellow flags turning red?
I feel like I haven't had the liberty
to ask those questions
because I've known him for five days.
Yeah, so what kinds of things are you thinking well, I I
Want to say I want to tell him
This is what I this is what I need in my partner
I'm I don't see that in your life
Okay, um, I mean I I mean I like you and it's all it's all good
But I don't see this in your life. What is it that you don't see that you want to see? I
Don't see the spiritual disciplines
Okay, I don't see
I I don't think he spends time with the Lord every day. Okay?
so you want him spending time with the Lord every day, I mean and not to put like a
No, I get it a religious thing on it. But some pursuit like daily put some sort of daily pursuit
Have you asked him what it looks like to spend time with the Lord, what's his time like
What what does time with the Lord look like for you? And what do you think it looks like for him?
It might be different and that's okay. Okay. Yeah, I'm just that's why I'd imagine that you're you are aware of that. So yeah
being okay with the thought that
it may look different for him and
And being open to kind of seeing how it shows up in his life
So that is again with it being five days. You probably aren't going to see that. Yeah, so
you could bring it up in conversation like
Work, did you have any moments today where you got to spend time with the Lord?
Like I did this today and this is how I got to spend time with the Lord today
Or this is what I heard today or what did you hear today or yeah, and it's that and it's not a pressure like
I'm not seeing this in your life, right? You know
Because I know that's not how you are wanting to approach it. I
completely
Understand as a faithful godly woman like that's what we desire
We are that and a husband is we we do we want to be spiritually led. Well
We want we want that covering we want that protection that is important for us as women
Yeah, so I
understand that being a concern and
That being something that we see
It's helping you ladies
Like being comfortable and relaxed with how that might look and giving it time to show up
Because I know I get anxious about that like that was something like oh, I don't know
He's not going to church every day. He's not doing this like, you know, like I you know, I was like that
I was and you know, and I see women all the time over this last five years of being in this community
I see that and so it is it's a learning process of being able to kind of sit back and say, okay
How can we?
How can we discover and learn more about a person and see if those are
Yellow flags turning green or if they're red and it's allowing the time allowing that stuff to come out
So again, just ask me like hey like, you know
When I was on a walk today, like, you know, the Lord spoke this to me like, you know
That's one way that the Lord speaks to me. What what is is there a way that the Lord speaks to you?
Did you have an encounter today? Was there something that the Lord spoke to you today?
Like how does the Lord speak to you like for me the Lord speaks to me like my prayer time usually y'all like
shower in the car
I'm a busy mom
Very busy mom
He speaks to me in the car
because I listen to worship music in the car and
Especially when I don't have my kids in my car and in the shower, it's the only time I ever feel like I have free time
So
Yeah, I'm in the trenches right now that is my literally that is the only like that's my prayer closet is the shower
And y'all can and I'll be honest with you and I can't even shower every day
Like and it's like so it's just real life
so it doesn't
Like everybody's walk with the Lord will look different depending on where they're at in their life
And it looks different for my husband too
like my husband's getting ready to go into his busy season where he works literally 12 to 14 hour days and
I'm having to kind of
Shift out of that too because that frustrates me at times where I'm like, where's my husband?
like I need time to decompress with him and
Share with him what the Lord is speaking to me
What the Lord is speaking to him and I'm like we don't even have time to just
discuss that. And he's in like work mode. Then I'm like, are
you even spending time with God? And I mean, I'm sitting here
being super critical. And I'm like, that's not being very
wifely. You know, but it's a learning process for me too. So
again, it's just practicing like what that looks like. So try
that.
Yeah. The other the other two things that are concerning me
right now is that he is he is seven years older than me. And
he's not active. Okay. And I'm uber active. Yeah. Um, and I
don't want to I don't want to say you in order to like, be
with me, you got to be active. Like, I can't say that.
Is he open to trying things out that you enjoy? Yes. Okay.
Because there I think is balance as well. And the only thing that
I can reference this to is just again, in my own experience is
like my husband loves going to the movies. Y'all I don't like
going to the movies. I don't mind going to the movies. That
is just not like I'd rather sit on my couch in comfy clothes,
not spending $50 at the movie theater. I'd rather just be in
the comfort of my own home and spend $20 to purchase it
digitally, and then have it whenever I want it. But he
that's like, that's what he wants. Like, that's what he
wants to do. I don't love it. But I'm willing to go do it
because it's something that I know he enjoys. So I'm willing
to go do that. Now. I like to be out and doing things and doing
active things like being around a lot of people. He's not always
into that. But he'll do it because he knows I enjoy it. So
you're saying that it's okay to have they can still be
compatible without all the boxes checked? Yes. Yes.
And I'll tell you this, like
my husband, like, and this is what my husband will tell you,
like, he just wants to be around me. He doesn't care what he's
doing. He just wants to spend time with me. And I and again,
I'm not a man. He's just telling me how men think his
perspective of it is, is a man just wants to be around the
woman he wants to be around. So he'll do anything just to be
around the woman that he wants to be around. So you know, if
you want to go do something, you want to go on a hike, the man's
probably gonna go go on a hike with you, because he just wants
to be around you. I mean, my husband's love languages,
physical touch and quality time. He doesn't care what the quality
time is. To him. It's just doing anything. I mean, we could be
literally just watching Netflix. And he just wants to be right
next to me, like holding my hand. And sometimes I'm like,
okay. But like, it's just literally like, it doesn't
matter what we're doing as long as he's with me. So that
again, like, over time, you will learn each other and learn what
you like what you don't what that that compatibility is the
opposites that complimentary opposites can is a thing. You
can have things that you both enjoy that you don't like, like
I don't like certain things that he likes. And I like certain
things that he doesn't like, but we still find time to enjoy them
together, because we enjoy filling each other's cup.
Because that's what we we love each other. So that's what we we
want to go do those things for each other. That's how we serve
each other. Does that make sense? Indeed? Yes. So be open
to that. You know, I get it like you want someone to because it
sounds like like, what are your love languages?
I don't like the love languages. So okay. Because I feel like it
can be manipulated. So yeah, and that's just a past. Well, and
I'll tell you love languages will change mine used to be
quality time and physical touch. When I first met my husband,
they're not that anymore. Mine is literally acts of service. Now,
my husband is just like, what happened? I'm like, I became a
wife and a mother of three kids. And
I have a lot on my plate.
I need people doing stuff for me.
Like I just need you to show up and help me.
Lighten the load.
Yeah, like take the burden off my plate.
I have so much of a burden on my plate now.
So that's my love language, honey.
Sorry, it's not your, it's not,
we're not compatible on the physical touch
and quality time like we used to be
before I became a wife and a mother to three children.
Gosh, if your love language is met, that would be too easy.
Yeah, no, they're not.
Nope.
So yeah, we both have to stretch.
And so sometimes I'm like,
I don't want to be touched right now,
but I'm like, okay, but if my husband's quality,
like I have to scratch his back and I'm like,
this is the last thing I want to do right now.
It's one space, but I do it because again,
I want my husband to know I love him
and I want to pour into him.
Cause he needs to be loved too.
So, but again, take your time.
This is still new.
You got three weeks now.
This is going to be good.
You guys are going to get to just know each other,
spend time learning a little bit more about each other
and see where that goes and keep us posted.
Like whatever stuff comes up, share it with us.
We can help you walk through it.
Okay.
I hope that helped a lot of you ladies.
I think I love it when you ladies come with questions
cause believe it or not, I think a lot of,
a lot of you ladies will experience
a lot of the same things.
Okay.
Thank you.
And Kathleen Kim shared her number in the chat.
If you want to pick that up.
Cause I think the two of you could connect as well.
And Hey, no, I don't think there's a problem
with gifts being a love language at all.
I have friends that gifts is a thing for them.
It's wonderful.
And I love when my friends have,
my friends that were gifts is their love language.
Those are my friends that are like the best gift givers.
I appreciate my friends that have gifts
as one of their love languages
because they just know how to give such awesome gifts.
I wish I knew.
Like sometimes I'm really good at gift giving
and sometimes I'm like, I have no clue what I'm doing.
So I will be coming to you when I need ideas
of gifts to give because you will probably have
all the best ideas of all the best gifts to give
because that is your love language.
All right, Leah, I see your hand.
Did you want to unpack some things with me?
Well, I guess I'm having a difficult time asking.
I'm talking to a couple of men locally
and kind of a couple men online
that I just started to on the art.
And so the couple men locally,
I did drop the hanky a couple of times for one of them.
He definitely kind of wanted to keep things online.
Although his profile does say dating and chatting.
The other one, you know,
he's mentioned that he'd like to get to know me better.
And I just kind of feel like
I'm running out of stuff to talk about.
Right, the first one, was that Fred?
Fred, yeah.
Fred is the one that he wants just to keep it on chat,
doesn't want to meet.
Right, and he also asked me for a picture
before I was going to bed, which I thought was weird.
Yeah, if he's not willing to do a video chat
or meet you in person, we're done.
So I've kind of quit talking to him.
Okay, good.
And then there's the other one, Ethan.
Remind me of his name again, was it?
Ethan.
Ethan, okay.
And he seems really nice,
but it's like we're talking more about cooking
and the weather and just, you know,
surface level stuff.
But I'm getting kind of bored.
I haven't asked him, his profile only says single,
but it does say he's a Christian.
Okay.
He's mentioned going to church.
I've mentioned, you know, that I went to church today
or something like that.
And you have dropped the hangy, like, hey.
I haven't really dropped the hangy for him.
Okay.
I don't think, I can't remember.
How long have you been chatting with him?
Oh, it's been weeks.
Yeah, let's pull the bandaid off.
You're going to say, hey, are you free this weekend?
And I've been busy on the weekends.
So, and I know he works, so I haven't gone there.
When are you free?
Give me a couple days that you're free this week.
Oh, I would do, I could probably do this weekend.
Okay, so yeah, you're gonna say,
hey, what are your plans this weekend?
I'm free Saturday morning and whatever,
pick two random times that you're free this weekend.
Say, hey, what are your plans this weekend?
I'm free this time and this time.
Let's meet for coffee.
Just throw it out there.
And I keep thinking I'm gonna do it and then I chicken out.
Well, let's not chicken out.
We're gonna pull the Band-Aid off.
What's making you chicken out?
What's the fear?
I don't know.
I don't know that I'm really interested in him.
I mean, he seems like a nice man,
but I just, I don't know that I'm really attracted to him.
I'm gonna give you advice that Jackie gave me.
You ready for it?
Okay.
You're just gonna go on a date just to break that seal.
You don't have to be interested in him.
Jackie kicked me out of the nest and she's like,
you just need to go on a date.
She's like, I don't care that you're not interested
in any of these guys that you're gonna go on a date with.
She's like, you're just gonna go on a date.
And that's what we're gonna do for you.
Just go on a date.
Well, there is another man that I did go on a date with.
He was actually, I mean, this was like a couple years ago.
Is this the guy that you were dating with for seven months?
No.
Okay.
A different one.
Okay, because I do have opinions on that
if you want my feedback.
Yes, I would like it.
Okay.
I don't know if you want my feedback.
I'm gonna be your big sister on that one.
It's probably cut him off.
Although I like him.
I know.
Although he just called me recently.
And he, because he proposed to me in January
and then I kept pushing.
I just, I knew that it wasn't,
I just felt like it wasn't right.
But he did just find somebody on a dating site.
My biggest thing with that,
when I was reading through that,
when that was coming up in my spirit
that I remember that Jackie talks about frequently
is when people surface back up from our past,
they have to have a complete transformation.
In order for those past relationships to truly work,
you have to see a complete transformation.
And my gut instinct is that this guy
has not had a complete transformation,
especially, and his name was John, right?
I don't think John has had a complete transformation
and he was very adamant about sex before marriage.
And that is a deal breaker for you.
And here's the thing is if it's a deal breaker for you
and it's not a deal breaker for them,
and they've already shared with you
that they don't see anything wrong with it,
they are not, it's just not gonna work.
Like it won't.
That's not something that they can,
especially if he's like, he sees nothing wrong with it.
It sounds like he's,
and you've shared that he's had sexual relationships
before you, after you, all of that kind of stuff.
It doesn't sound like he has a true conviction.
And if he tells you he does,
it may only be because it's what you wanna hear,
not because he truly has had a heart transformation.
You would need to see a serious heart transformation.
So I would encourage, don't tangle yourself in that.
Just release that.
That's just gonna only add confusion.
That would be my encouragement to you.
But I understand when there's feelings, emotions
and all that kind of stuff,
we can always help you unpack that.
We can always do hard work on that.
Okay.
It sounds like he's potentially found a relationship.
You know, I didn't hear from him for several months and-
And if you wanna break,
if you need to break soul ties again,
if you haven't, do it.
If you already did it and you need to do it again,
do it again.
I probably should do it again.
Yeah.
What about the other guy that you said you did go out on a date with?
A couple of years ago, I didn't know he was still married.
He was actually in the middle of going, he was waiting for his divorce court date.
And so this was in the fall, and it was going to be in January.
And so I told him, I said, Well, I'm not interested in dating someone who's married.
Yeah.
And so we quit seeing each other.
But he's on this dating site that I used to be on, but I still get, you know, messages,
you know, people, you know, you find out somebody's YouTube profile.
So he was sending me kind of like a poke, you know, that he was interested.
And although he's got my phone number, my text, and so he said that he was interested,
but he was kind of leaving it up to me because he was married three times, and I was a little
worried about it.
And he said his wife, this last one took him to the cleaners, although two of the wives
were unfaithful, for sure.
But I just, you know, if he's done any sort of like healing counseling, I don't know.
And, and he's kind of his Facebook page kind of pops up off and on and he has things posted,
you know, Bible scriptures and different things.
Yeah.
When, when, when was this that you met?
Was this a couple months ago?
About two years ago, I met him and then he was, he's, so he's been divorced.
It'll be over a year or he's, yeah, he's been divorced for a year.
Well, you get to decide on that one.
I mean, it's up to you if you want to, again, there's nothing, it's harmless just to go
for coffee and catch up.
Again, I would just be guarded, you know, it's just a get to know, see where he's at.
Yellow flags are there.
He did say what was in my court, whether, cause he said, should we, should we date?
He asked me and he said he was interested.
And he, he used to live here, I guess, when he was a kid and he moved away and came back
when he, so a couple of years ago.
So he probably doesn't have a lot of friends here and so you might just, yeah.
Yeah.
Just leave, I'm gonna leave that one up to you.
Spend some time with Holy Spirit on that one.
What, you know, what do you feel convicted to do?
What do you feel is healthiest for you?
With where you're at and your healing, again, just keep in mind, he's got yellow flags.
Okay.
You want to, you're looking for someone who is also healed because you're on this healing
journey.
Okay.
Remember what we believe we become, what we become, we attract.
Okay.
When we get healed, we attract healed and healthy.
Okay.
So if he's not healed and healthy, we don't want to find ourselves back into that same
mix.
We don't want to go backwards.
We're, we're moving forward.
Okay.
So I guess sometimes I just, I automatically decide, okay, now I don't want to get into
it, but I don't really know where he's at.
So I guess, and there's nothing wrong with going in and finding out and catching up.
That's what I'm saying.
Nothing wrong with just going and meeting for coffee.
As long as you can hold boundaries, okay, and you know, your limits and all that kind
of stuff and where you are at.
So just keep that in mind.
All right.
But we're good with, we're getting rid of Fred.
Yeah.
Drop dead, Fred.
I just aged myself there.
So if anybody remembers that movie, drop dead, Fred, I don't remember, but I did, I did start
talking to someone on the arc.
Okay.
He's a widower and he he's been widowed 10 years as I have also.
And yeah, it's been kind of flowing.
Nice.
Good.
And I just want to encourage you, you know, don't, don't be shy to drop those hankies,
you know, don't spend more than a week chatting on the app, get, get a video call, phone call.
Let's in-person dates or video calls right out the gate.
You know, you're here to have intentional dating.
Okay.
No more friends.
Okay.
We're not there to have pen pals.
Again, Ethan, I say, whether you're interested or not, maybe you're not.
Maybe he'll show up as a different person
outside of texting.
Maybe he'll be a little more interesting
if you can get him in person.
And if he's not, then guess what?
You don't have to have a second date with him.
It was nice meeting you.
Hope you have good, you know, good luck.
Best of luck to you.
Okay, and just keep us posted.
All right, all right, I'm gonna take Alexandra
and then I think Karen was going to post in the app.
And then I've got Liz.
She's got something typed here.
So I wanna try to get to her.
My Stephanie from NYC, my Stephanie Davis.
I don't know if you can unmute here in a moment.
I wanna hear an update from you.
And then I want updates from Kim and Lori.
I'm definitely going over.
Don't tell on me, ladies.
I don't wanna get in trouble.
But we had a lot of ladies on today.
They don't typically have that.
So I definitely want updates.
So, all right, Alexandra, short, brief, powerful.
How are you?
What's going on?
What's your question?
Oh, you're muted.
Thank you.
I think I just want encouragement slash your advice on this.
I'll try to make it short and brief and powerful.
But I posted about this guy.
We met at the dog park, I wanna say like eight months ago.
And then he kind of pursued me over contact.
And he's like, we should hang out.
And I was like, that sounds great.
And then it never happened.
I kind of, I was in a very religious mindset at the time.
And he threw some flags in that regard.
So I kind of like, I just, I think it's probably my fault.
But we never hung out.
And then been liking my stories on Instagram.
And he like asked me a question.
And then being a part of this program, I was like,
oh, like maybe I should ask him to hang out
and give this another chance.
And looking back at our messages,
like he really does ask good, thoughtful
and intentional things.
And we align on things that are important to us in some ways.
But I think I just find myself getting
like overly attached early on.
We've been texting for like a week,
like pretty consistently, like every day, but not all day.
He'll message me like once or twice a day.
So as I become more interested,
that's been really hard to like stop thinking about
and not overthink.
But we did make a plan to hang out this weekend on Saturday.
He never solidified a time.
He said maybe like afternoon or evening.
So now I'm debating because I'm like the more,
I feel like I'm the more interested one
and we don't have a set time.
I'm like, should I like, is it okay to confirm like a time
so I can plan the rest of my weekend?
Or am I too like?
I would.
Ladies, I don't see anything wrong with that.
Like, I don't like this, like, should I wait?
Should I not?
Like y'all, cause I'm someone,
I like to know what my schedule is.
I don't see anything wrong.
Like, hey, I'm trying to set up my day.
I want to make sure that I don't overbook myself.
What time is going to work for you on Saturday?
Have you decided?
And then let him tell you.
Okay.
Cause I don't want you not to go do like,
if you have other things that you want to go do,
make sure you do that.
Yeah.
Like, go make time for that.
Are you, so you met him at a dog park.
You didn't meet him on an app or anything like that.
This is at a dog park.
So this was like a week ago.
You decided to reach back out to him.
Yeah. It's maybe been two weeks.
It's maybe been two weeks.
Yeah.
But you met him in person eight months ago.
Yeah. And it was a really good conversation.
It's just all been going well.
He's just really slow, which is fine.
That's fine.
Again, that's totally, that's really good.
So you're overthinking it.
He's constantly on your mind.
Just the past few days.
Once I realized I liked him,
like before I was kind of whatever.
And then I was like, oh, I like this guy.
Are you dating or talking or online
or doing anything else to try to get to know other people?
I was before this.
And now I find it hard because I just,
I'm like not interested.
I just want to-
Now you're just like focused on one person.
So that's why our minds can just like
quickly go to one person.
That's one of the reasons why we actually do encourage you
like in this stage of dating,
be open to just getting to know people for people.
So that way we're not like,
cause if you-
are someone that can easily get attached. I was, I was someone
like when I was interested in someone, like, that's all I
could think about. Yeah. Same. I had to like really guard myself
with that. So it was helpful if I had other distractions. So I
didn't find myself in a cycle of just thinking about like I made
myself busy with other things. So whether you have people that
you're talking to, or getting to know, is there anything else
you can be doing in your life that you can distract yourself
with? Occupy your time with? Yeah, I need to find I'm trying
to I had a coffee date with my mom at 6am this morning. So I
was like, someone talked to me. Fine. Plan, you know, phone
calls with friends, like hang out with the movies, like call a
friend that's long distance that you haven't talked to in a
while. Yeah, like, go for a run, go for a walk, like, whatever it
is that you need to do, like, is there a project or something
that God's put on you to like, do what's part of your destiny
DNA stuff? Like, lately, God's been speaking to me about, like
he's spoken this long time ago that I was gonna write a book
and I'm like, No, there's no way because I am not a writer,
y'all. And lately, he's been like, sparking me to do that
again. And I'm like, there's no way I too much on my plate right
now. Yeah, is there's things like that where you could be
like, okay, no, I'm gonna, I'm gonna invest my time in doing
this. Whatever that is, fine, simple things that you can do to
distract your time. Don't hesitate to say, hey, about
this Saturday. Um, actually give him two times. Does I mean,
I'm gonna throw out two times. Does two o'clock work or six
o'clock work for you? Yeah. Let him know. Let him pick. Yeah,
two times that work for you. And let him pick one. Okay. I'm
like, nervous. It's not gonna happen. Because last time it
never happened. So but so I'm kind of nervous when I offer a
and he's gonna be like, what if it doesn't, and there's any
disappointment? Guess what? You have a community here. Yeah, we
can walk you through it. We can walk you through the
disappointment. Yeah, I'm gonna be sad. Yep. Trust me. We've
we've done that. Yeah, I've been through the disappointment. I've
been through the sad. So we got you. Thank you. God, ladies. God
uses every single one of these dating opportunities to grow and
heal and upgrade you. I promise. Mm hmm. Okay. Nothing
gets wasted. Nothing. Even on the guys that are not our spirit
mates. Nothing gets wasted. Okay, that's encouraging. Thank
you. Keep us updated. Keep us posted. Okay, Liz, I'm going to
read your your thing here. Actually, I think there was
somebody else and then Kim and Lori, I want to hear updates
from you too. And then okay, Stephanie. Okay, good. I'm glad
Ashley, this is helpful for you. Um, I love that you're
growing and giving is she still on? Oh, and Stephanie, are you
able to unmute Stephanie Davis? My girl Stephanie Davis, I want
an update from you too, girl. Okay, Stephanie NYC. At what
point do we shift gears from just going on a date without
being interested to dating intentionally? Like I'm
attracted and there's potential not just man, let's just go. It
is always give a guy at least one day I'm getting frustrated
and tired. So yeah, I say, um, give yourself at least at least
two dates with someone that you're not sure you're
interested in. I try to tell you ladies stretch it to three. Okay,
be open to three. But if you're just like, I don't have it in
me. Like there's no hard rule there. Okay. Um, if after two or
three dates, like there's just not an interest, it's okay to
move on. All right, it's totally okay. Now, if there's stuff
that's coming up, or you're seeing a pattern of things, then
let's bring it here in community. And let's see if
God's is just trying to invite you into an area to uncover
something. Okay, does that help? Stephanie? Okay. So yeah, don't
I mean, don't make this don't make this dating process like
not fun. If it's not fun, let's Yeah, like, this, this doesn't
need to be like, not enjoyable. Because it's
It's going to drain you.
It's not good for you.
It's not good for your well-being.
If you're not having fun with it, if you need to press pause,
you can press pause.
Press pause for a week or two if you need to.
I don't encourage you ladies to press pause
for a long period of time.
But if you need to recharge, recharge.
Y'all, I'm an ambivert.
Like, I recharge by myself, but I like being out.
But there's times where I'm like, I literally
just need a week to myself.
And that just has to be OK.
And if you need to take a week or two just
to get yourself on track, that is OK.
You can't pour from an empty cup, ladies.
So if you need to rest, recharge,
spend time with Holy Spirit.
I know when I'm feeling depleted,
and I don't have the energy, and I'm just exhausted and over it,
a lot of times it's because I haven't really
spent a lot of time with my Heavenly Father.
My therapist actually called me out for that last week.
And I was like, oh, that's what's
different about this week as opposed to the week before.
I was like, things were going great the week before.
Like, why all of a sudden am I like this crazy, you know?
And she's like, well, I know when I kind of am distracted
and I don't get to spend time with Holy Spirit as much.
And as soon as she said that, I was like,
oh, I'm getting called out right now.
So if you need to recharge, allow yourself to recharge.
But after two or three dates, it's not there.
You don't have to keep forcing yourself.
OK?
Allow God to direct you.
What is He trying to reveal to you?
What does He want you?
What does He want to allow surface
in these opportunities?
OK?
And Liz, so you asked about your neighbor in the app.
OK, I'll have to go back.
I should give him a chance, go on a date.
Ebony encouraged me to do it while checking the 3Ms.
Unfortunately, we couldn't go out.
We canceled it.
And then he told me maybe I should go to his home.
OK?
That turned me off even more because I actually don't like.
I mean, I've never felt any attraction towards him.
I just wanted to give him a chance.
OK.
So I've been thinking, is it that I
am reading too much into his statement
or just giving myself a reason not to like him more?
OK.
Liz, oh, there you are.
Hey.
I don't like that he invited you to go to his house.
Don't go to his house.
I don't like that.
Is that what's kind of turning you off,
like being somewhere alone with someone you still really
don't know?
I mean, I get it, he's your neighbor,
but you still probably, like, I'm
guessing you still don't really know him, do you?
OK.
We have been neighbors for almost three years.
OK.
And we had history.
I once dated his friend.
OK.
So then he told me he wants to date me this year.
I told him I don't like the history we had before
because his friend got married and they
knew that he was marrying someone else,
but they kept it away from me.
So somehow it took time for me to forgive them.
Then later he comes saying that he wants to date me
and marry me.
So I asked in the group, and then everybody
told me to give him a chance.
How is it that men do that?
Like, they want to marry you.
Like, why do you guys do that, ladies?
Why?
But really, I don't like him.
I've never felt an attraction towards him.
OK.
And him telling me to go to his home, I think he's serious,
but he's just kind of giving me hints.
Sometimes he's telling me, maybe you could come at my home
and cook.
And I tell him, no, that's not going to happen.
Oh, he wants you to come to his house to cook for him?
Yeah.
Yeah, no.
No, no.
Yeah, I'm getting the vibe that you really just don't.
You're not interested, are you?
I'm not.
No, it's OK.
You tried, and it got canceled.
You don't need to go to his home and cook for him.
And here's the thing.
He's your neighbor.
What?
What I, my gut is telling me is if he doesn't take a hint,
you can't get away from your neighbor.
So let's not open a door.
He's not my neighbor, he used to be my neighbor.
Oh, used to be, okay.
Yeah. Yes.
If you are not feeling it, you don't have to force it.
You get to make that choice.
How else are you getting out to meet people?
It's a bit difficult.
Yeah. Where, where are you at?
I live in, I'm in Tanzania.
Okay. That's, I knew you were somewhere.
Okay.
And that's, is that,
that's probably why it's a little challenging, isn't it?
It's just different, different dating scene.
Yeah. It's different.
Yeah.
So a lot of guys here,
they like inviting ladies at their homes.
Even you, you might meet someone only in a week
and he's already inviting you at his home.
So it's a bit challenging.
Sometimes I feel like,
will I ever meet someone who is maybe like me,
who doesn't want to have sex before marriage
or someone who is willing to get to know someone
really well?
Mm-hmm.
Can I ask you, is, is that a culture thing?
Like, do the men over there,
like, is it like where the women do,
like to do the domestic thing?
Is that like expected?
Yeah. It's like expected for us to cook for them,
to do a lot of stuff for men.
That makes more sense than why he would ask you to do that.
Okay.
This is interesting.
Can I, can I take this to the team
and see if I can't get like Bethany or Jackie
to give feedback on this?
Cause I'd be interested
because I think some of this is culture stuff.
And I want to,
I want to learn more about how we can best coach you ladies
that have some different,
like, especially with men coming from a different background
that's going to have these different expectations.
Where like, cause yeah, like for me,
I'm like coming to your house and cooking for you.
But I can understand like, if that's a culture thing,
but if you don't want to do that,
like, like how, like, how do you do that?
Yeah.
Like, do you at church, do you guys,
do you guys date within church?
Like, do you connect in community?
Is that something that is?
It's not something that is open,
like single groups are not there in church or yeah.
So you just meet someone outside church or in church.
They don't encourage such relationships.
So it's somehow,
even our parents don't encourage such relationships,
especially when you are young.
So it's something that we do behind their backs.
Until you reach a certain age,
it's when they start asking maybe,
why are you not married or why you're not seeing anything?
But it's something that-
But your parents are really there to kind of direct you,
are they?
Yeah, they don't direct us.
Okay, so yeah, that gets, that's challenging.
I can understand why that's difficult.
Like, if it's not modeled for you, like what,
like what do you do?
Okay.
So it's not our culture for parents to talk to us
about dating or this kind of thing.
Yeah.
So you learn it from internet and other places.
And you are, you're not relocating, you will stay,
or are you open to relocating?
Like, what's your, what's God calling you?
I love staying in Tanzania, but I can relocate, it's okay.
Okay.
I love traveling, yeah.
Yeah, I'm gonna reach out to Jackie and Bethany,
and I wanna, cause I think this will be a good opportunity
to kind of learn more about how we can better serve you
and other ladies that we serve
that come from different cultures.
But I don't want you to feel like
you have to go on a date with somebody
that you are not feeling, okay?
Okay, thank you so much.
So I don't, I wanna release you from that.
Cause I'm getting this feeling like,
you feel like you have to, cause you have to go on a date,
but you just really don't want to.
And I don't want you to put yourself in a situation
that you don't wanna be in, okay?
Okay, thank you so much.
I feel like, I feel like as soon as I said that,
you're like, thank you.
Yeah.
So you're a leased girl.
Thank you.
You are welcome.
All right, Stephanie, can you unmute?
I want an update from you,
and then I want an update from Kim,
and I want an update from Lori.
And I know I'm going so late,
but ladies, if you have to jump off, you can.
I'm not holding you hostage here.
I don't want to get in trouble.
I want an update from you all.
I've missed you, girl.
Yeah, I've been, so it's the one o'clock,
sometimes I don't get,
but today I was like, I moved intentionally.
I'm gonna try to get on,
because I haven't seen this girl face in months.
Are you coming to the anniversary?
No, I'm so sorry.
No, I didn't make any plans to come.
So for my update, I have not been on,
I've not been talking to anyone,
and I didn't take a break.
It's just that, I don't know if you know,
but I run my own company.
And so, and then I work on weekends to supplement
when there is no funds coming as quickly as I want to.
So it's just like, in the summer,
God just take me through this whole thing
where it just now started,
the company just started to grow, grow, grow.
And so I've been so busy trying to do that.
But then I felt, it's that you, when you,
no, you made me cry.
When you said that dream you got earlier,
it was so, what you talk about,
I don't remember who sister asked it,
but it was so much for me,
because a couple of months ago, I had a dream.
I was so busy working, working, working,
and this guy came to the fence,
and I have this, so please lady, don't bash me.
I thought, I said I was gonna marry a black guy again.
I wasn't gonna date any,
I was gonna marry white, in my head.
And so I was like, but in the dream,
this was a black guy, he was in,
I think he was in blue.
He had a light blue shirt and a light blue shorts,
couldn't see his face.
And he was like, but he came there
to have for us to go on a date.
And I was like so busy doing my work.
I was like, I'm so busy, I, you know, he was like,
then all of a sudden I was on this bed,
and he came through the gate,
and I thought he was gonna do something
inappropriate with me.
Because I was like, oh my God,
this is not where I thought he was go.
But he put his hand on my side,
and he said, I am bone of your bone,
and flesh of your flesh.
And he said, I'm your husband.
And then he said to me, I said, you're my husband?
He said, you thought I was gonna do something different?
And I said, yes, I thought you were gonna do something.
And he said, no, I'm your husband.
I'm here to support you.
But I couldn't see who he looked like.
I don't know what he looks like.
And so when you share that, I was like, okay, God,
you know, cause you just been getting different way.
And then even with Saturday, when Jackie was talking,
that week God has been speaking to me with Genesis,
I'm sorry, Genesis with second Kings seven.
And you know, I was like, it was, she's not even,
I was like, is there a camera in my house who called her?
But everything God was dealing with that week was like,
it was, you know, so I got back on the calls.
I'm like, I'm not intentional.
I said, okay, I'm gonna work at it.
So like everything that you were blessing,
everybody was like, I needed to hear those things
to be, you know, to be back in land line.
And cause you know, cause I really want to get married.
I really do.
It's not like I don't want to, but it's just like,
you know, it's me alone.
And I even tell God, I said,
God, you have to send this guy quickly because the growth,
I can't manage a growth on my own.
I need, I need a support.
And you know, I've been burned so many times
by bringing people in.
You know, I don't want to do that again.
So I carried this whole thing on my shoulder.
And when you ask, I can't pronounce your name,
but the lady, like you're willing to relocate.
And I was like, I said, I hope you don't ask me that
because the vision I got, I have to stay in New York.
I can't move.
So anybody I find, either they relocate
or they are already here.
So that is just my update, but I just, you know,
I just, I thank God for just you sharing today
cause it actually helped me.
So thank you as always.
And you know, I love you.
You had to be here.
I also, I want to, I want to share with you too.
Cause when you're sharing that dream,
be asking the Lord what the color blue means.
Oh, okay.
I never, I never thought of that.
I don't know.
I like, again, I don't know if blue signal
like signifies something, but you just pointed that out.
And I just didn't know.
And I, and again, I'm, I'm,
I'm not the best like dream interpreter.
Like I am growing in that, but
That just came in my spirit like I wonder what like you you pointed that out and I thought that there must be some
Significance of that so I don't know like ask God to reveal that if that is something
But you also said like I'm so busy. I'm so busy. And then all of a sudden you were in bed
which
Made me think that like God is telling you to rest
I don't know if that's something that you need to hear
That resonates with you
But it's okay to rest and
that
Because your husband is gonna come and he's gonna help take that load off of you
Like, you know when to become one
like you partner with someone and you get to bear each other's load and that is what a
Husband will do and again. He's showing you in that dream that
He's not there to be inappropriate with you
he is one of your bone flesh of your flesh and
He is there to fulfill a
promise of
What marriage is supposed to look like?
in Covenant and
so
Just I think that's a beautiful dream. I'd be asking
the Lord what that blue means and
Did you ever get to hear any of the we took Sabbath for September
Were you ever able to hear any of the no, I just
On Saturday God told me you need to join the call and I was like, oh, yeah
Listen to the supernatural Saturday before we went into Sabbath September Sabbath because we didn't record any of the
Supernatural Saturday calls in September, but listen to the supernatural Saturday
The call before we stopped recording in September. Okay
Because
Rest and Sabbath is important
Mm-hmm. I think it might be really good for you to hear some of that. Okay. Okay. All right. Love you Stephanie. Thanks for updating
You're gonna update me in the app Lori
Always good to see you my you're like my like
You're like my BFF like we like just can chat forever. So
That's why I was like, I
Hope you don't take offense that I leave you ever last but it's only because I know you and I can go off and off
I don't think I'll go on forever
But I do feel like I want to give an update because I would like to have you
speak into a couple of things that I'm thinking about so of course been online dating like
I'm on holy and
Harmony and I've done some Facebook, but I did pretty good with the Sabbath in September and
definitely took like weeks at a time off to just like reset my heart and
That was so so good for me. And also to really yeah
Like he's doing the Lord's doing so much in my life. Like I found a church now that's local
Which I've been driving like 35 that that's a whole nother story, but he's just answering some prayers for like
community for me and like I've been watercolor painting and just really leaning into like
creating my own life and
Yeah, so it's it's been hard but it's yeah, I'm really thankful I feel like
Things are coming together more. So it's just always you know
it's good for me to be like personally challenged and I've like already visited a couple small groups and women's Bible study and went to
Go worship thing night there
so I've really like
Already did a serving thing. So just like
keeping
Keeping going in like because I moved back here like a year or so ago
So, yeah just
Creating a life so that when like I'm not just like sitting waiting
for to get married
like there's a purpose like you're
My life create a life that I love and like develop things that I've always wanted to develop
But anyway, I'm talking to a guy I've been talking to a guy from Minnesota. I'm in Michigan
For a little over a week now. He's
Be
He's what 50 and I'm 56, okay
Most of our talks have been it's felt like you know, just kind of
Batting back and forth just more like information, you know, like, you know, you're just kind of getting to know
know like the basic things about somebody like how many kids and yeah i don't even know what he does
um well i do because i googled him but he's he's very visible can i call it research
um be careful with that laurie i know careful with it like don't sometimes you find things
you don't want to find yeah i have not not on him but yeah okay yeah i'm just giving i'm
i'm just giving my my wisdom here yeah it's like jackie's got a checkered heart when we're doing
that but i'm again like i'm not not ragging on you fine yeah we can find things about the
relational equity that wouldn't measure up to like knowing the character i remember
that was yeah but anyway um yeah so anyway like he's i i think the things that are coming up
are some intimidation because he's like a country like he led the country of asia like in his job
and so both feelings of intimidation and also feelings of um
um would he have enough time okay um so you know i i have to admit that like we've
exchanged messages and they've been maybe every couple days um he answered you know he answered
my basic questions but then the last one he didn't and then he kind of fell off for a couple days
then he came back he had his he had his kids over the weekend so that's the other thing he's got a
16 14 and 8 year old mine are 26 and 29 so we're in a different season of life okay and
before this i would say like it would not be i would say nope don't want to don't want to raise
kids again yeah um but i'm just sitting in this space okay what gets me is like he's just got this
super abundant smile like he's just got this smile that he's a strong believer at least you know
sounds like it but he's just got this he smiles with his eyes he's like
just like just the sweetest smile deep deep smile okay um
so anyway like he he fell off and then instead of like coming back and being like you didn't
answer my questions i just thought he's super busy and i'm not busy because i'm not working
right now so i've got a lot of time so he is still working what's that he is still working
yeah he's he's working he feels the lord on like changing to something different so he's also doing
interviews okay he's got like board meetings and all sorts of stuff this week so you know i sit on
the i sit in the place of like i don't want to say like okay he didn't he didn't answer any of my
last questions but he did say hey i've got sorry for the delay i've just i've got a lot of work
got so much right now well it's only been one week right yeah it's only been a week you guys
have not had a video call no but here's the thing okay like i've been in sales before so i just
decided and i think i got a little bit bored too i just said i'm just gonna do a sale like go or no
go thing so i just basically reached out to him and said i actually asked ai i know that's like
what do i say like because i was like we're not really connecting like it's more like batting
like information back and forth so i thought i'd really like to like not get like heart deep stuff
but like so i just asked it and i just said you know i'd love to hear um let's see i said uh
oh he asked me about city service i said it went well thanks i'll be praying for god's strength
wisdom and discernment for you this week i know you've got a lot going on right now all great
things i'd love to hear more about what excites you the most in life right now whether it's
something your kids your work or just something you're passionate about that brings you joy
would you be up for a brief video chat perhaps this weekend it'd be great to meet and i'd always
prefer real life over texting and he says he said thank you look forward to it weekend would
work great thanks for
for me as I go through busy week of interviews and meetings, how does about
noon central on Saturday a one-year time work? So I just... I'd like to give you your time.
That's good. Yeah, so I just I got really excited about that, yeah. So that's this
Saturday? That's this Saturday, yeah. Yeah, let's let's roll with that. Let's see what
happens. Again, this is your only weekend, so I'm gonna... Yeah. My instinct to tell
you is let's not let's not put the cart before the horse. I don't know him at all,
really. Yeah, let's not let's not get like just have fun with it. Yeah. You don't need to
do all these what-if stuff. Let's just get to know him. Let's see where this
could go. Again, he's in Minnesota, you're in Michigan. What about the kids thing
though? We don't have to figure that out until like the video chat first. If the
video chat goes well, then you're gonna want to figure out can you all meet in
person. Okay. Then getting in person, once you get it in person, then you're gonna
be able to gauge from there. And then if you're like, okay, because the long
distance you you do have to, there's got to be some intention there. Yeah, that's
why we encourage you ladies, if you're doing long distance, you got to get in
person pretty quickly within three to six weeks. Because if it's going to go
anywhere, you need to know that you're there's something like compatible there
that you're there's an interest there's you get along. Yeah, your energy is
sometimes people's energy on a text on the phone is going to be different than
100% because I've met people and I'm like, Oh my gosh, like, you got to feel
that out. So again, if it's going well through text on the phone, video call,
great. Let's see how we are in person. If you like how things are in person. And
you want to keep seeing where this goes. You're gonna have to have those more in
depth conversations sooner rather than later. We wouldn't have you ladies do
that if it was a more local thing. But when you do have to have those
conversations like hey, yeah. You're there. I'm here. Do we like each other
enough to kind of figure out what this looks like? If so, what would this look
like? Yeah. And then you have to decide. Does it look the same for both of us? Do
I don't know. Just he share parenting. My no idea. He does. So I probably can't
move. Yeah, there. Like, yeah, those kinds of conversations will come out. I
don't want to but I can. Yeah. But that's what I'm saying. You're not going to
know if you want to until you actually spend time getting to know him and
you're not 100% do that until you get to know him. Do a video call. See if you
all can figure out a way to meet in person and see how it goes meeting in
person. Yeah, let's not get too ahead of ourselves. Let's just take one step at a
time. Okay, focus on the video date first. And we'll go from there. Yeah.
Sound good. Yep. All right. All right, ladies. It's always a pleasure. Thank you
so much. For those ladies sticking out, Kim, I'll look forward to your post in
the group. And if you jump on Ebony's call tonight, that'd be fantastic. Ladies,
have a wonderful, wonderful rest of your day. And I look forward to seeing you all
next week.