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up. Awesome. Okay. So, I'm going to show something first. Greetings, everyone. How's everyone

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doing? I know we had to move it because we're flying out tomorrow. We were going to have

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this tomorrow. So, hopefully, everyone got the memo, at least you guys did. I want to

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start off with something that may kick off discussion. I'm going to show you some marketing

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stuff I've been doing that you, too, can do. Okay. Let's see. Start right there. All right.

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So, before we jump into your questions, I want to show you some stuff that I've been doing.

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And so, I have pretty much been lazy with Instagram lately, or I had been for a while.

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And I just, you know, I get my routines. I just do my thing. I'm not looking, I'm not paying

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attention to the results necessarily. I'm focused on the activity, right? You know, marry the

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activity, divorce the result, right? And I just felt the Lord has been nudging me like to,

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okay, let's get this better. And so, I just want to share, here's like some of the things I've

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been doing, right? These talking head videos. So, you know, if you look, you know, 11 likes, 14,

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seven, you know, 1100, 500. And now this one was a special, I was on a pretty big podcast,

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Jess and I, you know, so that one, you know, kind of stands out. And then every once in a while,

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you'll have one that does, you know, decently, but, you know, for quite, and this was a different

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podcast I was on, you know, these three, but for the most part, not really spectacular, right?

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And, and they just keep going and going. And so on this day here, that's when I'm like, okay,

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we're going to make this better. And, and I just started doing things a little differently. Okay.

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And so, you know, right here, you know, 31 and, you know, 2000, 3200, 38, 8300, 103.

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And you just notice from this day forward, which this day was October 10th, 10 days.

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So I've been at this 10 days. And what I'll tell you is in all of these videos that I've done,

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are you ready for this? I'm not talking.

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Finally, Ray, shut up, right? So in none of these, I'm not, I'm not talking. It's all using

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captions, B roll. It's, you know, just using different images, right? And, and I still have

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my, my YouTube guy, he's still throwing these on here. And actually, they're doing a little bit

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better. Right. You know, this one 9400, you know, 3200, 25,000, that actually was an accident.

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All right. I accidentally uploaded that one. And I'm like, holy crap, what the heck? You know,

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and I have some of my old school ones. I did this one so many years ago, but every time I posted,

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it just works. But you're just seeing very, very different numbers, right? It's very different.

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You know, and then this weekend, right, which, you know, historically, the weekends, I didn't

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think I typically do very well. But this one 10,000, this one 14,000,

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which gets us up to today, I posted this this morning, 108 comments, 3100 views. Okay,

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just posted this one not too long ago, that should do well, because it's a it's a funny,

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funny deal. And then these are these are two older ones that are, you know, just,

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you know, kind of penned. Okay. So you I want to share

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okay, what, you know, what am I doing? And so I'm putting in a mix, not every post is business,

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business, business. But enough of them are that I'm getting a lot better results. Okay. So like,

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for example, this one, you know, this talks about, you know, so this is and I am using mini chat,

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which I don't know how many of you are familiar with, but very, very, very simple

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software that you can use to automate some of this interaction kind of stuff.

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You know, this is this basically, if someone drops the word routine, which is the instructions

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in the, you know, caption, they get they get a DM from many chat that points them to my YouTube

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video. And what's cool about Oh, I wasn't sharing my screen right there. I'm sorry.

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Let me show my share my screen one more time here. So you see it. And so yeah, so if they drop the

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word routine, many chat will come in and say, Hey, please see your DM, it'll send them a DM

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saying, Hey, you asked for, you know, the link, you asked for a video about the daily routine,

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you know, click this link, if you want us to send it to you, and it just confirms,

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but it automates some engagement as well. Right? So all of this is happening automatically.

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I'll even show you. Well, here it actually is, right? I don't know how many clicks and stuff

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I've had now. I did, I did post it before I created the mini chat, because you like you

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have to time it. So there's there's actually been a lot more than this. And there's a ton

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on the Facebook page. Let's see how many is on the Facebook page.

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So yeah, there's 99 comments on the Facebook. So I still get a lot more engagement on Facebook than

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I do Instagram. But here's kind of the breakdown of what it does. It says, Hey, when someone

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comments on this specific post, and they use the word routine, reply to their comments,

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it'll pick one of these. Here's the opening DM, right? Hey, there, you asked me for the video

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with my son and son Neil Hammett. And if they click Send me the link, and I'll send them here,

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you go watch it right here. And then if they don't click the link to watch it, it'll even follow up.

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So what it's doing is it's it's engaging, you know, people. And right now, I only unfortunately

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have this working on Instagram, we have some issues with our Facebook page, we're trying to

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figure out. So all of the Facebook page, I have someone kind of helping me with that. So she'll

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drop the actual link right there. But what I have happening is, when I post on Instagram,

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it posts automatically to my Facebook page. And so I just want to kind of share that with you,

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my Instagram was not getting hardly anything. And so I just changed it up. And for Instagram,

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there's no question. No, there's zero, zero question. And that is, if you want anything

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over there, you got to play the game. You got to play the algorithm. Most of these videos are

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four to eight seconds. And I have trending audio on all of them. And they just loop,

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you know, some of them. I'll show you one more time. I mean, you can always look at my Instagram

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just to get anything after October 10. It's going to be kind of the new deal. So like,

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what's a different version here? Like, like this one? Okay. I forget what I said. Yeah. So I just

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I just took a screenshot of one of my quotes from x or Twitter. And you know, there's no,

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it's just trending audio, right? There's no, this is four seconds. And so most people just to read

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the darn quote, watch it two or three times, right? So it is driving more views when it's

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short like that. But this is you just got to play the game. And so what I did, which did take

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a very serious amount of time, I went through and I hope that some of you do this because

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it'll make your life easier. It's to me, it's worth the investment. So I have 14,602 videos on

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this phone. I went through every single one and, and I didn't watch everyone, right? I just,

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I just, you know, scrolled. So on this phone, I have, you know, again, 14,000.

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But I got it as old as, oh, that's a wrong date, 1969, apparently.

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I don't know why it says that, 2012.

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So 14,000 videos, it took me probably somewhere between three to four hours.

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And I didn't do it continuous.

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I kind of, you know, took like an hour here, an hour here, an hour here.

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And here's the cool part.

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Here's the cool part.

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Any video that I found intriguing at all, if it had an interesting background,

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if it had, you know, some kind of special moment, if it had me speaking on stage,

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I uploaded it to Instagram as a draft.

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So I now have an arsenal of hundreds of videos

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that I don't have to go shoot new.

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I can just use.

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And I can smack a quote on.

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I can smack a trending audio on.

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And it'll get thousands of views.

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And I'm, you know, this is from an account.

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And my account has a lot of different issues.

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You know, there was a time a long time ago where I stupidly let a guy do a follower

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increase thing, which I thought was smart, you know, whatever.

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How many years ago was that?

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It was probably eight years ago or something.

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And he got me all these fake followers and all these different things.

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And I just I've hated it ever since.

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But it's there is no automatic tool to remove them from Instagram.

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No tool.

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There's a tool where you can identify, but you still have to manually do it.

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And so it's a big pain in the butt.

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So I have my someone that works for me.

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She's going 100 at a time.

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And just like if there's no photo, she's removing them as followers.

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So it'll only take another 27 years.

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But, you know, we're trying to, you know, really tidy this this thing up.

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And it's simpler than I thought.

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It's a lot simpler than I thought.

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Short, interesting video.

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And of course, you know, I did test an AI one.

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And so you can use AI, you know.

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I don't know if there will eventually be penalties for AI versus real video.

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I don't know.

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So I mainly am relying on real video.

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But I did test an AI video, the one where I'm doing this and it kind of looks weird.

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That's an AI video.

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But it still did OK, I think.

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I don't think it did great.

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But, you know, 1,600 views, 27 likes.

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But anyway, I'm going to start with that.

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Just kind of share and feel free to ask me any questions around that.

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Or completely disregard and ask your own questions.

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And so feel free, raise your hand.

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We'll go in order.

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Amber, quick to the draw.

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What's up?

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What's happening?

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So as you know, the rules, right?

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What's the rules?

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The rules are what's your win?

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What's one win since we last talked?

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And what's your number one question?

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My win is that I've gained some new customers since last time we've gotten together.

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And today, my husband and I are celebrating our 18th wedding anniversary.

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So those are wins.

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Yeah, thanks.

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So when you were talking about that mini chat, is that something that is free?

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Or is it a paid thing?

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It's $49 a month.

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I think, let me, I can show you a little bit.

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I probably should have seen if I could be an affiliate before I tell you guys about it.

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I didn't think about it.

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So let me, so you have these different like automations.

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And like this was a really, really good one.

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Let's see what this one is.

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Yeah, yeah, so what this does is it tells you like, hey,

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here's what your audience really wants to know.

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So this one right here, look how much it stands out.

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You know, 49 people asked for the link from Instagram.

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Now, I'm getting more engagement on my Facebook just by what I'm doing over here.

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But what this tells me, this was about the biggest reason you're not making money.

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So this tells, this is saying, this is screaming to me,

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Ray, talk more about why people aren't making money because look at all the numbers.

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And so you get, you can automate, like if I click new automation,

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they have all these different things.

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Drive traffic, grow YouTube channel, auto-reply.

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You know, to stories, you know, and by the way, I've been doing a lot, at least the story stuff I've been doing manually for quite a while, where I just get in, see someone and I reply, and this, you know, this automates that, but the biggest, the most useful thing is these right here, where you pick, you pick a post, and you say, hey, if they drop this word, do this,

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reply to their comment, send them a DM, send them the link, follow up with them if they don't click it, like, that's, that's really valuable.

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And so, I find it valuable, but it's not, it's not free.

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I think some of you may be in Go High Level, I think Go High Level can do the same thing, I think, but I don't know Go High Level.

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And Mike, I don't know if you're, you guys do any of this stuff.

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I see Mike Hobbs on here, at least I think that's Mike.

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I don't know if you guys do any of this stuff.

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You know, if you, if you do that for less, you know, let us know or the same or whatever.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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And so, I have another question about, in Instagram, I have some people that have liked some of my stuff, but they don't follow me.

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And do you follow up with them?

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Or do you, like, reach out to them and say, hey, thanks for liking this?

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Or do you?

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You, you actually, I have not, I have not used that.

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Yeah.

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And Carrie says they use it for a wife's page.

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Carrie, do you use it for Instagram or Facebook?

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Instagram.

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Okay.

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Because I believe you can use it for Facebook, but I have not been able to figure that out.

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Yeah, we have.

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Yeah, we don't, we don't use it for that either.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So, let me share again.

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So, like, if I do, let's just look at this one.

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Like, this one's, oh.

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Okay.

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That one's already created.

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So, if I do new automation and I click this one, it does say, hey, send them a DM asking to follow you before they get the link.

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So, you could do something like that.

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I have not.

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What I'm, what I'm kind of focused on for probably the next 30, 45 days is just, just engagement.

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Just, just focus on massive engagement.

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Then I'll tighten her down.

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Then I'll test more.

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I'll look at the numbers and I'll cater my posts to what's actually driving numbers versus raise guesses.

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Because right now they're kind of guesses.

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But, you know, eventually now, the only thing I would say is if you use this button, a direct message asking to follow you before they get the link, you need to say that up front.

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You need to say, hey, I'm happy to send you this valuable resource.

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You got to be following me.

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Drop the word, blah, blah, blah.

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And then that, that way you're, you're having that up front, not, hey, DM me and then I'll send it to you.

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Well, only if you follow me, you know, like that, that won't feel good.

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So, if you're going to do something like that, I would.

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Yeah.

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Does that make sense?

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Yeah.

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What if I don't have anything that I'm actually going to be sending them?

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I just see that they're liking my stuff.

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Is a reach out to that, you know, worthy of doing?

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I think the better question is, how can I come up with something to give?

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So, that's the better question, right?

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How do I come up with something to give versus chase a follow, right?

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Why don't I come up with something that, you know, and it's never been easier, right?

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You know, like, like, let's just, let's just play and have some fun.

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Why not?

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What, what type of person are you trying to attract?

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Like, who are you serving?

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Remind me.

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Special needs families.

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Okay.

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And, and it's to balance their life or, or what?

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Yeah, yeah, yep.

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Now, I'm not saying to use this verbatim, right, but at least give you ideas.

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And you will think that, well, couldn't anyone do this?

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Couldn't anyone go in and chat and do this?

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Yes, but not with your insight and not with your background.

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And so.

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Oh, you could say, you could tweak this,

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hey, write this for a grandparent or whatever,

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make this more faith-based, you know, you could do whatever.

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But, you know, this kind of starting

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with this kind of prompt is what you can easily do.

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Now you may have your own 10 tips and they're way better,

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which I would say go with that.

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But it could be a video where you record them,

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you could record the video, have it transcribed,

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make it into an ebook, very simple.

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You just go, you can post it into Word

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and save it as a PDF, boom, it's an ebook.

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You know, and I wouldn't obsess

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over what the delivery is like,

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like how beautiful it is or how amazing, you know,

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that what you're doing is you're thinking like a marketer

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to get them to trade their information.

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So, you know, if, you know, this is kind of the basis

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of attraction marketing is, you know,

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who will generate more leads?

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The one that says, daffodils, buy one, get one today.

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Okay, some people might go and buy some daffodils

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or here's the 21-step plan,

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here's the 21-step guide for growing beautiful daffodils.

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Right, you're gonna get more leads that way.

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And so like have something that is a trade-off,

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that is a giveaway and don't rely on the giveaway

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to do your selling, rely on your giveaway

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to do your engagement and getting people

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to reach out to you, then you connect with them.

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Now, the truth is most people, even if you, you know,

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give them the 10 tips for families with special needs,

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most people aren't even gonna read it.

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That's unfortunate, but it's true.

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And so, but that's okay.

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It's them reaching out to it.

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Now they've identified themselves

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as I'm someone who wants that information.

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Now I'm gonna connect with them,

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whether they read the thing or not,

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or watch the video or not.

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Now I can connect with them and see if I can help them

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in some other kind of way.

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Does that make sense?

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See, some people will, they'll have the insight

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to, ooh, create a good giveaway.

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So they'll create a good giveaway

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and then they'll wait for it to work, right?

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They'll wait and they'll put at the very end of the giveaway,

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hey, ask me about my essential oils or something, right?

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And they'll never get asked because no one ever gets there.

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It's the creation of the reach out that's so important.

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It's the creation of the, hey, I want this.

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Oh, you've identified as someone who wants this stuff.

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Well, I can help you, whether you read this or not.

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And so-

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So are you following up through like their email?

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Is that what you're wanting to get?

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Or is you're just following up with them

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on having continual conversations through DMs?

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So we're in two kind of different phases maybe.

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Right now I am, I have sales that happen all over

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through all kinds of different things.

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And so right now I'm shoring up the infrastructure

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and that's kind of my focus.

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If I were wanting to make sales,

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it would, I would have less automation.

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I would have, hey, I would have a giveaway.

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And then when people would ask for the giveaway,

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I would connect with them

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and determine how I can best help them.

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You know, what can I do to best help them?

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So the, you know, the most basic thing is generate a lead,

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connect with the lead, determine the need.

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So I'm connecting with them to see

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how I can best help them.

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Now every once in a while, I'll do a more blatant

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kind of, I don't know, call to action or content or whatever.

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You know, like I did this,

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I've done this twice in the last couple of weeks

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where I just said, hey,

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sometimes people just need one to three coaching sessions

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to completely get out of stuckness.

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If that sounds like you, drop the word coach,

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I'll connect with you.

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And so, you know, both times I've done that,

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I've brought in thousands of dollars to, you know,

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just a few people that reach out.

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I don't do that all the time.

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And that's not my focus all the time.

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But if I'm like, if the goal is I want to build my business,

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then I want to get my freebie out there

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to get people reaching out so that I can connect with them

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and see if I can work with them closer.

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You know, and another thing I've shown this before,

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I don't know if I've shown it to you guys or not,

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But let me, I think this would be helpful.

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Can't remember if I've shown it to you guys or not.

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One thing I do every day

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is I go through my Facebook memories.

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That's, I always get like, you know, good stuff.

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I just wanna share with you guys some things.

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Like right now I'm,

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cause I know I have great confidence in our ability to sell,

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but I just, I just,

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I want more engagement out of my Instagram.

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And once I have more engagement,

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it'll just be very easy to sell more too.

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But I'm, so I'm focused on the engagement first.

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But, hold on, I'm almost there.

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Almost there, almost there.

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Okay.

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I'm trying to come up with a decent one to show you here

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that should have gotten more engagement.

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And I'm just a lot pickier on what I post nowadays.

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I'm trying to find, that's not good either.

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Okay, well, all right, sure.

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Hold on, here we go.

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So, all right, so, you know, 2010, right?

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15 years ago, argue for your limitations.

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Sure enough, they're yours.

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It's a good quote.

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I got five likes, one comment.

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That year I did $350,000.

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This is, see, this is just not a good post

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that shouldn't have gotten engagement.

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Neither should that.

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Most of my posts weren't that great back then.

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I'm just saying this to give you some hope here.

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Okay, all right, there we go.

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So, this is a good quote, 2011.

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You'll never leave where you are until you decide.

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That got me 34 likes.

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Okay, 2011 was, I did over 500,000.

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So, what I don't want you to think

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is engagement equals money or followers equal money,

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because that is absolutely not the case.

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But if you get good at connecting and selling,

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then more engagement does mean more money.

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Okay, let me find one from Olds.

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Olds.

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Okay, all right, this I think is a good one.

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So, October 20, 2013, not the greatest picture.

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I'm squinting, you know.

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But if I post a selfie like this nowadays,

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I will get hundreds of likes.

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This got 11 likes, and 2013 was my first million dollar year.

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So, why am I showing you this stuff

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not to show off or something?

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I'm doing it so that you don't draw the conclusion

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of more followers equals more money.

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You know, I remember there was a guy

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that joined my mastermind, Terry Grameau,

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out of Montana at the time.

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I think he now lives in Panama.

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And he had built up,

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because I'd been working with him for,

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I'd worked with him in like an informal way

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for maybe a year or so,

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and he had 7,000 people on his email list.

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And so that year I worked with him and he ended,

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and when he came into the mastermind,

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he was making 34,000 a year

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as a assistant store manager at a hardware store.

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That year he finished at 500,000.

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He was just, he really like mastered,

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how do I connect with these 7,000 in my email list

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and get them to buy stuff?

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And that's what he did.

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And, you know, and so I just don't want you to think

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just because I'm focused right now on,

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let me improve the engagement over there,

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that that's what you should focus on.

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It would be, you know, how do I connect with the person?

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So, you know, if a like is the best lead you got,

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then connect with them, sure.

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But I wouldn't connect with them to say,

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hey, will you please follow?

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You'd be like, hey, I saw that you liked this thing.

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Is that something you're struggling with?

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Or is this, or, you know, how can I best help you?

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Is there anything I can help you with?

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And try to connect with them and determine their need.

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Does that make sense?

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Yeah, definitely.

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Yep, it does.

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Yeah.

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Very good.

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I mean, there's a lot of influencers

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that don't make much money.

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They get crap load of engagement,

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but don't make hardly anything.

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I've met a bunch of them.

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And so just don't draw the conclusion

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engagement equals money,

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but if you're good at selling

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and you're good at connecting,

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then more engagement does mean more money.

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But you want to get that piece first.

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Yeah, thank you.

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Helpful?

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Yes, thanks.

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Okay.

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All right.

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I see Rebecca joined us.

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What's up, Rebecca?

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How are you?

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Okay.

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It's your guys' time.

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Who else has a question?

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Who would like to, who's the next victim?

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I mean, special guest.

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I'm gonna help.

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All right, Tori.

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All right.

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Hi.

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How's everyone?

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Good.

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So that's one win, and then your big question.

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My win is Saturday.

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I actually did an in-person presentation

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to a group of, there were about 10 people there.

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Besides, there were some on Zoom,

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some business partners on Zoom,

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as well as just a guest, one guest on Zoom.

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But mostly it was for the in-person,

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and I had never done this before

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for helping to recruit for my business.

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And so that was my win.

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Went over really well.

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Everyone had really positive feedback.

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I talked way too fast,

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which I kind of knew as I was going along.

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I was like, but I was on a roll and I couldn't stop.

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But I did fairly well not having ums and ahs and all that.

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So I'm really excited about that

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and continuing to build on that.

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Got actually one person that did join the business.

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10%, not bad.

474
00:32:22.380 --> 00:32:22.600
That was awesome.

475
00:32:24.260 --> 00:32:26.900
But my question is,

476
00:32:27.180 --> 00:32:31.220
I'm also doing more hopping on Zoom calls

477
00:32:31.220 --> 00:32:35.720
rather than just sending people a video saying,

478
00:32:35.800 --> 00:32:38.520
I'll follow up with you in a couple of hours

479
00:32:38.520 --> 00:32:41.460
or an hour, half an hour, whatever it might be, right?

480
00:32:41.460 --> 00:32:43.900
And I'm getting good responses.

481
00:32:44.900 --> 00:32:47.280
Haven't gotten anybody that's actually started

482
00:32:47.280 --> 00:32:49.900
from that yet, but I've just started doing that

483
00:32:49.900 --> 00:32:51.060
in the last week or so.

484
00:32:51.180 --> 00:32:53.260
So I'm looking forward to seeing

485
00:32:53.260 --> 00:32:55.480
how my response is with that.

486
00:32:56.800 --> 00:33:01.320
I would love some tips, ideas, suggestions on,

487
00:33:02.660 --> 00:33:05.900
I go through my spiel, right?

488
00:33:05.900 --> 00:33:08.200
Showing what we do in the travel business.

489
00:33:08.400 --> 00:33:12.860
That's what I do is travel and how it all works, kinda.

490
00:33:13.060 --> 00:33:17.440
And then talk a little bit about the compensation-ish,

491
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:20.900
just a little, not like so much that it's overwhelming.

492
00:33:21.740 --> 00:33:24.720
But then, and explain the initial investment,

493
00:33:24.980 --> 00:33:26.140
all of that kind of stuff.

494
00:33:28.300 --> 00:33:30.960
Tips on closing, like I don't,

495
00:33:31.680 --> 00:33:32.960
I'm like, so do you have any questions?

496
00:33:33.500 --> 00:33:35.140
I mean, I'm not really,

497
00:33:35.980 --> 00:33:40.740
I'm not great at let's get started, kinda thing.

498
00:33:41.360 --> 00:33:41.760
Yeah.

499
00:33:41.760 --> 00:33:43.200
So I'd love some tips on that.

500
00:33:43.740 --> 00:33:44.200
Yeah.

501
00:33:45.280 --> 00:33:51.760
So, and I know some people prefer that way of,

502
00:33:52.100 --> 00:33:53.780
they wanna, they do the live presentation

503
00:33:53.780 --> 00:33:55.380
on Zoom and everything.

504
00:33:57.460 --> 00:34:01.840
To me, there's two reasons that that is

505
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:04.020
for most gonna be harder.

506
00:34:06.600 --> 00:34:14.020
One is whatever you do, they think they have to do, right?

507
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:16.179
And now you can explain it and say,

508
00:34:16.260 --> 00:34:17.480
hey, you don't have to do this.

509
00:34:17.580 --> 00:34:18.520
You can just send a video.

510
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:20.260
But if you're not sending a video,

511
00:34:22.540 --> 00:34:24.219
well, why aren't you sending a video?

512
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:26.900
Yeah, I mean, that's kind of the thought.

513
00:34:29.179 --> 00:34:34.960
I routinely had 20, 30 people watching the video

514
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:38.380
at the same time, and that's just, it's just more leveraged.

515
00:34:39.940 --> 00:34:42.780
So number one, whatever you do, they think they have to do.

516
00:34:42.780 --> 00:34:46.699
So if you're doing live Zooms, then they think,

517
00:34:46.940 --> 00:34:48.659
oh, I have to present, I don't like to present.

518
00:34:49.100 --> 00:34:51.440
It's, I mean, at one point prior to the pandemic,

519
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:53.340
it was the number one fear in the world,

520
00:34:53.520 --> 00:34:54.380
like public speaking.

521
00:34:54.659 --> 00:34:59.300
And then now it's like government corruption, nuclear war.

522
00:34:59.380 --> 00:34:59.980
Look at this.

523
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.780
There's a lot more interesting choices nowadays,

524
00:35:02.900 --> 00:35:05.560
but back in the early 2000s,

525
00:35:05.560 --> 00:35:06.960
it was public speaking was number one.

526
00:35:08.540 --> 00:35:10.420
And so that's number one.

527
00:35:10.680 --> 00:35:14.140
Number two is when you have something third party,

528
00:35:14.460 --> 00:35:16.380
you can reference it easier.

529
00:35:17.260 --> 00:35:19.880
Like, I went, I just,

530
00:35:21.100 --> 00:35:22.760
like I went to the post office

531
00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:25.640
and I shipped some of these mystery goodie bags to people.

532
00:35:26.220 --> 00:35:30.180
And the, you know, the post office person is there.

533
00:35:30.660 --> 00:35:32.400
And when they finish with you,

534
00:35:32.400 --> 00:35:35.120
a little screen pops up in front of them

535
00:35:35.120 --> 00:35:36.620
that they can see on,

536
00:35:36.780 --> 00:35:38.540
were you satisfied with today's service?

537
00:35:38.780 --> 00:35:40.720
And it's got an unhappy face,

538
00:35:41.040 --> 00:35:43.440
like a moderate face and a happy face.

539
00:35:43.820 --> 00:35:47.060
And I'm like, do people actually press the mean face?

540
00:35:47.080 --> 00:35:48.060
And they're like, oh yeah.

541
00:35:49.820 --> 00:35:53.480
And so there's, you know, like when I say,

542
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:55.820
okay, I just finished my presentation.

543
00:35:56.220 --> 00:35:56.820
Any question?

544
00:35:57.060 --> 00:35:58.380
What did you think about that?

545
00:35:59.120 --> 00:36:02.240
It's like, like they're kind of catering,

546
00:36:02.660 --> 00:36:03.840
especially if they're Midwest, right?

547
00:36:03.840 --> 00:36:04.740
They're kind of catering.

548
00:36:05.020 --> 00:36:07.600
Oh, what do I say if I don't like it?

549
00:36:07.600 --> 00:36:08.900
Oh, that was great.

550
00:36:09.080 --> 00:36:11.120
You know, like, but if I said,

551
00:36:11.300 --> 00:36:13.140
hey, what'd you think about that video I sent you?

552
00:36:13.460 --> 00:36:15.880
They're more open to give you honest feedback.

553
00:36:15.940 --> 00:36:17.180
They're more, they're more open.

554
00:36:17.620 --> 00:36:18.500
It's just easier.

555
00:36:18.720 --> 00:36:20.440
It's easier to say, what'd you think about that?

556
00:36:20.440 --> 00:36:24.680
And so I think somewhere it is a badge of pride.

557
00:36:24.820 --> 00:36:27.040
I work harder than people that just send videos,

558
00:36:28.260 --> 00:36:30.620
but to me, it's less duplicatable.

559
00:36:31.020 --> 00:36:32.480
I can do a presentation on Zoom.

560
00:36:32.900 --> 00:36:35.500
I'm not questioning my ability to do that,

561
00:36:36.140 --> 00:36:37.880
but I just find it easier.

562
00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:38.860
I find it more duplicatable.

563
00:36:38.980 --> 00:36:40.040
And I tell them, hey, by the way,

564
00:36:40.040 --> 00:36:41.300
if you want to grow this business,

565
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:42.980
all you do is send that video to people.

566
00:36:43.340 --> 00:36:44.120
And they're like, really?

567
00:36:44.240 --> 00:36:44.820
That's all I do?

568
00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:45.900
I'm like, yeah, that's all I do.

569
00:36:46.100 --> 00:36:47.960
And they're like, wow, I think I can do that.

570
00:36:47.960 --> 00:36:50.800
And so I use that as the fastest fast start

571
00:36:50.800 --> 00:36:51.560
that ever existed.

572
00:36:52.640 --> 00:36:55.060
And so it's just my take.

573
00:36:55.380 --> 00:36:58.400
However, if we decided, I don't care about all that.

574
00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:00.120
I'm going to present on Zoom live,

575
00:37:00.140 --> 00:37:01.240
no matter what you say, Higdon.

576
00:37:02.580 --> 00:37:05.960
I would just say, I would have more questions upfront.

577
00:37:06.540 --> 00:37:09.180
And I would say, hey, what has you looking at travel?

578
00:37:10.380 --> 00:37:11.960
Do you travel now?

579
00:37:11.980 --> 00:37:13.680
Are you wanting to travel more?

580
00:37:13.740 --> 00:37:15.160
Or is it mainly to make money?

581
00:37:15.740 --> 00:37:17.180
And so I want to find out,

582
00:37:17.200 --> 00:37:21.640
I want to gather ammunition before I present.

583
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:25.820
Because one, I'm not only, it's not primarily for this,

584
00:37:25.880 --> 00:37:28.200
but I'm going to cater my presentation,

585
00:37:28.340 --> 00:37:30.540
just like Paul did in the book of Acts, right?

586
00:37:30.540 --> 00:37:33.660
If he was speaking to the Sadducees and the Pharisees,

587
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:34.800
he would bring up resurrection

588
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.020
because then they infight, right?

589
00:37:37.020 --> 00:37:38.880
Because the Sadducees don't believe in resurrection

590
00:37:38.880 --> 00:37:40.160
and they ran the Sanhedrin.

591
00:37:40.160 --> 00:37:45.600
And so I'm going to cater my talk to who I'm in front of.

592
00:37:46.140 --> 00:37:49.140
And so if they say one thing,

593
00:37:49.140 --> 00:37:50.720
I'm going to cater my talk to that.

594
00:37:51.120 --> 00:37:55.160
But more important than that is I'm going to reference back.

595
00:37:55.580 --> 00:37:56.900
Now, when we first started this journey,

596
00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:58.320
you said you wanted to make more money.

597
00:37:58.440 --> 00:38:00.220
Now, if you don't do this, how will you make more money?

598
00:38:02.100 --> 00:38:03.880
See, they won't be able to answer that question.

599
00:38:04.060 --> 00:38:05.960
Most won't be able to answer that question very well.

600
00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:08.000
Because if they knew that answer,

601
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:11.060
they wouldn't be talking to you, you know?

602
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:14.400
And so I'm going to reference their desires,

603
00:38:14.640 --> 00:38:16.720
their problems, what they brought up,

604
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:18.560
because that's what's most important

605
00:38:18.560 --> 00:38:22.400
is what is connecting and relating with where they're at,

606
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:23.900
not where I'm at, who cares?

607
00:38:23.980 --> 00:38:25.060
They don't care what I think.

608
00:38:25.460 --> 00:38:27.740
They care, how's this going to help me?

609
00:38:29.080 --> 00:38:31.800
And I love, I mentioned this before

610
00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:34.420
a few weeks ago, probably, but I love,

611
00:38:35.380 --> 00:38:36.800
I don't remember who said it,

612
00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:38.560
but I heard it from my friend, Barry,

613
00:38:38.780 --> 00:38:40.200
and she said, you know,

614
00:38:40.200 --> 00:38:42.200
people don't pay you for all you know.

615
00:38:42.500 --> 00:38:43.980
They don't want to know all you know.

616
00:38:44.340 --> 00:38:47.020
They want to know what do you know that's going to help them.

617
00:38:47.560 --> 00:38:48.420
That's what they want to know.

618
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.500
And so I want to know, what do they want to know?

619
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:54.060
Why are we on this call?

620
00:38:54.460 --> 00:38:55.380
What are they looking for?

621
00:38:55.480 --> 00:38:56.540
What are they hoping to see?

622
00:38:56.820 --> 00:38:58.060
And I'm going to cater it,

623
00:38:58.060 --> 00:38:59.580
and then I'm going to bring those questions

624
00:38:59.580 --> 00:39:01.120
back up at the end.

625
00:39:04.540 --> 00:39:05.840
Does that make sense?

626
00:39:06.540 --> 00:39:07.340
It does make sense.

627
00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:09.520
And it's not a badge of pride that I'm doing this.

628
00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:14.220
It's just when I, I've sent a video,

629
00:39:14.400 --> 00:39:16.840
I mean, and I have, you know, I have a team.

630
00:39:16.860 --> 00:39:18.440
I have people that I have, you know,

631
00:39:18.440 --> 00:39:21.980
been able to get started with, you know,

632
00:39:21.980 --> 00:39:23.780
the video and going that route.

633
00:39:23.780 --> 00:39:26.120
And I'm not, I'm not necessarily opposed to that.

634
00:39:26.280 --> 00:39:28.960
I just seems like I've had less,

635
00:39:29.420 --> 00:39:33.220
I've sent a video a lot more than I've ever

636
00:39:33.880 --> 00:39:35.920
gotten even responses back.

637
00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:38.240
Does that, I don't know if that makes sense or not, but.

638
00:39:38.640 --> 00:39:41.140
I could look, do you have a conversation I could look at?

639
00:39:41.500 --> 00:39:41.940
Oh.

640
00:39:42.260 --> 00:39:44.060
Cause there might, there might be tweaks there.

641
00:39:44.180 --> 00:39:46.640
Cause I tweak that stuff all the time.

642
00:39:47.740 --> 00:39:48.180
Maybe.

643
00:39:48.700 --> 00:39:54.180
It has to be in a postured process, you know,

644
00:39:54.220 --> 00:39:55.300
and always know.

645
00:39:55.320 --> 00:39:58.180
I just, I just, you know, it's, it's interesting,

646
00:39:58.420 --> 00:39:59.980
but I just talked to.

647
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:03.180
You know, someone and she's like, yeah, I send out the video.

648
00:40:03.340 --> 00:40:04.140
No one ever responds.

649
00:40:04.280 --> 00:40:05.760
I'm like, they're never going to respond ever.

650
00:40:06.460 --> 00:40:08.500
Don't ever expect anyone to ever respond.

651
00:40:08.740 --> 00:40:10.260
You have to follow up with them.

652
00:40:10.540 --> 00:40:13.060
And I definitely do follow up for sure.

653
00:40:13.600 --> 00:40:14.560
That's good.

654
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:17.540
That hasn't been it.

655
00:40:22.120 --> 00:40:24.660
Now, this doesn't mean that I'm trying

656
00:40:24.700 --> 00:40:29.140
to eliminate you connecting with them on Zoom or on the phone,

657
00:40:29.140 --> 00:40:31.840
but I want the video to do the heavy lifting.

658
00:40:32.300 --> 00:40:36.700
So what I would do is I usually would not unless they were a special.

659
00:40:38.620 --> 00:40:40.900
Influencer or someone, you know, whatever,

660
00:40:41.600 --> 00:40:44.740
I wouldn't get on with them until they'd watched a video.

661
00:40:46.080 --> 00:40:49.560
And, you know, because I wanted to let that do the heavy lifting for me.

662
00:40:50.040 --> 00:40:53.320
And, you know, and then we'll have a short conversation

663
00:40:53.320 --> 00:40:55.380
and I'll see where they're at.

664
00:40:55.380 --> 00:40:59.580
So I'm not trying to not think the video should be like the first thing.

665
00:40:59.800 --> 00:41:03.240
And then to follow up would would be better for Zoom.

666
00:41:03.460 --> 00:41:05.120
I'm just. Yeah.

667
00:41:05.120 --> 00:41:06.660
And here and here's how you say it.

668
00:41:06.660 --> 00:41:10.140
You say, hey, you know, I have you know, I have this video.

669
00:41:11.080 --> 00:41:13.300
You know, it does a better job than I could do of explaining it.

670
00:41:13.380 --> 00:41:14.060
It's very concise.

671
00:41:14.180 --> 00:41:16.900
It'll let you know if it's a fit for you or not.

672
00:41:18.020 --> 00:41:19.960
Very postured language right there.

673
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:23.640
And then you say, you know, hey, do you get a chance to watch it?

674
00:41:23.640 --> 00:41:25.060
Well, hey, you know, yes.

675
00:41:25.120 --> 00:41:27.120
OK, well, let's hop.

676
00:41:28.020 --> 00:41:29.780
I've tested this. This works the best.

677
00:41:30.460 --> 00:41:31.920
Let's hop on a quick call.

678
00:41:32.200 --> 00:41:33.180
Only takes a few minutes.

679
00:41:33.460 --> 00:41:36.700
And let's make sure it's a fit for you or answer any questions or,

680
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:39.280
you know, see if it's you know, maybe it's not, you know, like that.

681
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:41.240
It's just a hop. It's a little thing.

682
00:41:41.260 --> 00:41:43.320
It's not. Let's set an appointment.

683
00:41:44.220 --> 00:41:45.400
That sounds like I've done.

684
00:41:45.500 --> 00:41:48.020
I've used the hopping thing for me a lot.

685
00:41:48.240 --> 00:41:49.640
So I like video.

686
00:41:49.700 --> 00:41:53.020
Then hop right up on a quick connection call.

687
00:41:53.020 --> 00:41:55.840
OK. OK.

688
00:41:56.800 --> 00:42:00.420
That helps. Yeah, I've got I've got some ideas now

689
00:42:00.440 --> 00:42:04.060
that I that I think I'm going to put in place.

690
00:42:04.520 --> 00:42:08.380
And because you can just get more people.

691
00:42:08.480 --> 00:42:13.040
And if I if I if everyone has to wait for Ray to do the presentation like

692
00:42:13.620 --> 00:42:17.580
I'm just not going to have enough people in the funnel for me to be happy.

693
00:42:17.600 --> 00:42:21.080
Like I want hundreds of people watching the video all the time.

694
00:42:21.080 --> 00:42:24.600
And I can't do that.

695
00:42:24.600 --> 00:42:26.080
I'm just going to burn out.

696
00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:27.800
It's going to be it.

697
00:42:28.220 --> 00:42:29.900
OK, that's that's really helpful.

698
00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:32.280
Thank you. All right. You got.

699
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:37.160
OK, Rebecca, how are you today while we're waiting for hands?

700
00:42:38.240 --> 00:42:39.660
I'm OK. How are you?

701
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:41.500
All right. Great.

702
00:42:42.080 --> 00:42:43.960
Awesome. Awesome. Appreciate you.

703
00:42:45.940 --> 00:42:47.520
Likewise. All right.

704
00:42:48.520 --> 00:42:50.720
And I'll see what else got something.

705
00:42:54.920 --> 00:42:57.900
Oh, Tony. Hey, hey.

706
00:42:58.720 --> 00:43:02.720
I have a win. Great.

707
00:43:04.940 --> 00:43:09.000
October at the Lake Michigan nutrition location

708
00:43:09.960 --> 00:43:13.760
is we've seen growth over September

709
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:17.260
and growth over the previous three Septembers.

710
00:43:17.520 --> 00:43:21.420
So things are trending up still, still in the grind.

711
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:25.760
But question as it relates to

712
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:29.860
I know you had mentioned in the past when you talked about onboarding

713
00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:35.180
a new distributor that you you don't like sending them to a website

714
00:43:36.640 --> 00:43:39.060
and you've typically like

715
00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:43.000
like you've taken like their card number and you pretty much have

716
00:43:43.100 --> 00:43:45.160
more of them set up, set them up.

717
00:43:45.160 --> 00:43:47.940
And so I was just curious, like.

718
00:43:48.420 --> 00:43:51.700
The network marketing company that I work with

719
00:43:51.900 --> 00:43:55.520
has a site where they set up like they set up an email and a password

720
00:43:55.520 --> 00:43:57.220
before they even like do the setup.

721
00:43:58.000 --> 00:44:01.820
Are is it your suggestion to like go through that whole process?

722
00:44:03.840 --> 00:44:09.780
And submit like a card to onboard them, or do you suggest in that situation

723
00:44:09.780 --> 00:44:13.900
to send them to the site and and have them fill it out?

724
00:44:15.740 --> 00:44:17.360
Yeah, so just.

725
00:44:19.020 --> 00:44:22.580
Just to clarify what I what I don't like doing is

726
00:44:23.180 --> 00:44:26.180
if someone says, OK, I'm ready to join

727
00:44:26.720 --> 00:44:29.060
and then saying, all right, I'll send you my link.

728
00:44:30.740 --> 00:44:33.800
Like 99 times out of 100, that person is not coming on board.

729
00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:35.820
I mean, they're just not.

730
00:44:35.900 --> 00:44:39.040
I don't know why, but it's like Murphy's law kind of thing.

731
00:44:39.040 --> 00:44:42.480
Like as soon as you send that link, the kid falls off the bike or the cat

732
00:44:42.480 --> 00:44:45.980
gets sick or, you know, the lone tire or something.

733
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:50.100
And so there's a few ways you could do it.

734
00:44:50.100 --> 00:44:53.540
I would never I would never put in my own credit card. Right.

735
00:44:53.540 --> 00:44:54.840
But I've taken credit cards.

736
00:44:54.900 --> 00:44:57.620
I've taken hundreds of credit cards over the phones.

737
00:44:57.620 --> 00:44:59.980
I've taken hundreds of Social Security numbers over.

738
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:06.900
phone and I think one maybe two times someone was like, why do you need my social? I'm like,

739
00:45:06.920 --> 00:45:10.820
well, Uncle Sam needs his money. If you're going to come in here and kill it and Uncle Sam wants

740
00:45:10.820 --> 00:45:16.740
his money and like, oh, okay. I've never lost a sale from asking for their credit card or their

741
00:45:16.740 --> 00:45:24.700
social, not one time. And so, however, there's another way to do it. So again, what I don't

742
00:45:24.700 --> 00:45:29.140
like is just here's the link. Good luck. I sure hope they, you know, please let them sign up.

743
00:45:29.640 --> 00:45:38.080
I will either take it and enter it myself. That's one way. And that's helpful if you have,

744
00:45:38.860 --> 00:45:45.940
if you're, if you know, like the last, there was a company that I was helping and their,

745
00:45:46.420 --> 00:45:53.340
their pages just sucked. They just sucked. And so like, it was very complex. It was very like

746
00:45:54.020 --> 00:46:00.560
arduous. If you miss this button, you're like screwed the whole time. And, and so like with

747
00:46:00.560 --> 00:46:05.600
them, I'm like, y'all need to take the info. Like until y'all get your stuff together and fix all

748
00:46:05.600 --> 00:46:10.780
these stupid pages, like you need to take the info. Don't let someone try to figure this out

749
00:46:10.780 --> 00:46:13.660
on their own or else they're going to get frustrated and frustrated person just quits.

750
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:19.340
They're just going to say, forget it. And so if it's complicated, I take the information and I

751
00:46:19.580 --> 00:46:24.040
If it's pretty simple, straightforward, I'll stay on the phone with them.

752
00:46:25.620 --> 00:46:30.640
And I'll say, okay, all right, right now you're seeing a screen and I might screenshot the process

753
00:46:30.640 --> 00:46:35.260
so that I have it. But right now you're seeing a screen, see where it says username, you know,

754
00:46:35.260 --> 00:46:38.800
it's not as important as you think, but just, you know, here's my, you know, it'll give you a

755
00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:44.140
little advice and, you know, even credit card and mailing address. And so I would stay on and

756
00:46:44.240 --> 00:46:50.020
walk them through. And a lot of the best recruiters that I know, they do that.

757
00:46:51.080 --> 00:46:55.080
They stay on and walk them through. If they're not taking the info,

758
00:46:55.740 --> 00:46:59.900
they're walking them through. Now, some companies, I think forbid you taking the info.

759
00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:07.380
And, you know, so then you got one less option, but, you know, I didn't, I didn't like jot it

760
00:47:07.380 --> 00:47:12.480
down. I mean, I put it directly in and, you know, submit it to the company. I would never

761
00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:17.900
steal their card or something, but. Yeah. And I guess that's helpful. I think

762
00:47:18.940 --> 00:47:23.220
where I've run into it is someone's like, yeah, I'm ready to get started. And yeah, like,

763
00:47:23.220 --> 00:47:28.900
I think at that point I should be saying we should, you know, saying we should hop on a quick

764
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:38.880
call and I can walk them through it, you know, versus. So here's how to, here's how to improve

765
00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:44.880
that. It'll be counterintuitive. Here's how to improve that. You say, okay, sounds great. Tell

766
00:47:44.880 --> 00:47:49.460
you what though, let's just hop on a quick call and I just want to make sure you're understanding

767
00:47:49.720 --> 00:47:56.240
everything and let's make sure it's a fit for you before we move forward. So it sounds like it's a

768
00:47:56.240 --> 00:48:01.780
safety guard. It's really you walking them through the process. And so when I get on that phone,

769
00:48:02.020 --> 00:48:06.060
you know, I'm going to say, okay. And, you know, you said you're ready to go, but just first,

770
00:48:06.060 --> 00:48:13.180
I got a few questions. So usually like when someone's over eager, right. Someone says ready

771
00:48:13.180 --> 00:48:18.880
to go. Yeah, let's go. It kind of scares people. You know, it's like my, my dog with other dogs,

772
00:48:18.920 --> 00:48:24.220
he's too eager. Right. You know, so the other dogs, you know, my dogs, he just loves other

773
00:48:24.220 --> 00:48:30.040
dogs and not they're scared. So when we get too eager, it scares them all. But if we, if we,

774
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:34.560
if we put up like, it's kind of a safety mechanism of, you know, before you move forward,

775
00:48:34.560 --> 00:48:39.640
like they were about to, you know, before you move forward, let's hop on a quick call. Let's

776
00:48:39.640 --> 00:48:43.060
just make sure I just want to, you know, button up the hatches, make sure everything's, you know,

777
00:48:43.060 --> 00:48:49.160
in line. And, and so I'm like, okay, now tell me, tell me what's, you know, what are the main things

778
00:48:49.160 --> 00:48:53.780
you like about this that had you say you wanted to start? Okay, great. Got it. Well, why is that

779
00:48:53.780 --> 00:48:59.060
important? Okay. Got it. Oh, wow. Oh, that's powerful. Oh, great. Cool. Yeah. I mean, I,

780
00:48:59.220 --> 00:49:03.600
well, I mean, I think you got it. I think you are ready to join. What's your best mailing address?

781
00:49:05.340 --> 00:49:12.000
So I go from, from safe, right? What's safe mailing address, right? So I go to safe to,

782
00:49:12.300 --> 00:49:16.240
you know, what's, what's, you know, I don't, I don't start with what's your credit card. I don't

783
00:49:16.240 --> 00:49:19.780
start with that. What's your social? I don't start with that. I'd start with what's your mailing

784
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:25.560
address. Okay. And what's that? Okay. Got it. Okay. Is that the billing address as well? See,

785
00:49:25.580 --> 00:49:31.200
we're kind of easing into the tougher questions or walking them through.

786
00:49:33.120 --> 00:49:38.360
Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. I, yeah, I've just had, I know I've had situations where I've kind of

787
00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:45.180
take, you know, like they, they even seem eager and then like they don't follow through. And so

788
00:49:45.180 --> 00:49:52.660
I was like, I've, it was good to get clarification on, on some, some methods on, on how to. Yeah.

789
00:49:52.720 --> 00:49:59.980
Proceed from that point. For sure. Yeah. We're, we're helping them because people are afraid of

790
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.260
They're, you know, they stay stuck in their overthinking.

791
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:04.540
We're helping them.

792
00:50:04.820 --> 00:50:06.060
We're helping them do,

793
00:50:06.400 --> 00:50:07.960
and that's the difference between

794
00:50:09.120 --> 00:50:09.960
persuasion and manipulation.

795
00:50:10.540 --> 00:50:12.260
Manipulation is getting them to do what we want them to do.

796
00:50:13.140 --> 00:50:14.040
Persuasion is getting them to do

797
00:50:14.040 --> 00:50:15.340
what they already want to do.

798
00:50:15.900 --> 00:50:17.660
This person wants to change their life,

799
00:50:17.880 --> 00:50:21.200
so we need to be, we need to use everything that we can

800
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:23.300
to get them to help them change their life.

801
00:50:23.340 --> 00:50:25.660
If they don't join, they are not changing their life.

802
00:50:27.700 --> 00:50:30.220
And this only comes from us believing in what we do.

803
00:50:30.300 --> 00:50:31.240
If we don't believe in what we do,

804
00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:32.880
then, you know, we shouldn't be doing it.

805
00:50:32.960 --> 00:50:34.580
But if we believe in what we do,

806
00:50:34.680 --> 00:50:37.100
then we should be very good at persuading them

807
00:50:37.100 --> 00:50:39.340
to do what they already want to do.

808
00:50:40.340 --> 00:50:41.440
People already want to lose weight.

809
00:50:41.520 --> 00:50:42.740
They already want to get stronger.

810
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:44.320
They already want to have more energy.

811
00:50:44.440 --> 00:50:45.200
They want to make more money.

812
00:50:45.520 --> 00:50:47.860
We got to help them get out of their way

813
00:50:47.860 --> 00:50:50.580
by being just as effective as humanly possible.

814
00:50:51.980 --> 00:50:52.440
Thank you.

815
00:50:53.660 --> 00:50:54.640
Yeah, got it.

816
00:50:57.120 --> 00:50:57.940
Gary.

817
00:50:59.920 --> 00:51:02.740
Yeah, since we're on the conversation about, you know,

818
00:51:02.740 --> 00:51:05.300
basically team building and that conversation.

819
00:51:06.120 --> 00:51:08.660
So if you're trying to put together

820
00:51:09.320 --> 00:51:11.760
your own opportunity video,

821
00:51:12.540 --> 00:51:15.640
is there a framework that you should follow

822
00:51:16.280 --> 00:51:17.500
to make that most effective?

823
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:23.760
Yes, there are some exceptions.

824
00:51:26.600 --> 00:51:29.460
In that, you know, for example,

825
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:32.760
you know, like with Brilliant, right?

826
00:51:32.820 --> 00:51:35.180
So, you know, like that kind of thing,

827
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:40.060
it can't be, as soon as you make it money centric,

828
00:51:40.600 --> 00:51:41.860
it just don't fly.

829
00:51:42.240 --> 00:51:43.460
We've learned that.

830
00:51:44.180 --> 00:51:48.460
And so, but for most opportunity things,

831
00:51:49.720 --> 00:51:52.340
it's in your team building blueprint, you know,

832
00:51:52.340 --> 00:51:54.240
which we gave all of you guys access to.

833
00:51:54.240 --> 00:51:57.920
It is, I mean, that in there is how to create an onboarding,

834
00:51:58.060 --> 00:51:59.320
how to create an opportunity video.

835
00:51:59.900 --> 00:52:03.460
And then I think there's like one other section of it,

836
00:52:04.220 --> 00:52:08.100
but it's, you know, answering, you know, the questions.

837
00:52:08.260 --> 00:52:14.420
If you notice, almost all good opportunity presentations

838
00:52:14.960 --> 00:52:18.280
have a similar structure, right?

839
00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:20.120
They talk about a major need.

840
00:52:20.520 --> 00:52:22.780
They talk about trends, right?

841
00:52:22.780 --> 00:52:24.300
Because most people don't believe in themselves,

842
00:52:24.420 --> 00:52:26.660
but they believe in trends, right?

843
00:52:26.660 --> 00:52:29.920
They believe the phrase of even a strong wave

844
00:52:29.920 --> 00:52:33.540
will carry even a weak soldier to shore, right?

845
00:52:33.540 --> 00:52:34.980
And so like that, you know,

846
00:52:34.980 --> 00:52:37.640
they don't believe in themselves, most people, right?

847
00:52:37.640 --> 00:52:39.680
But they believe in, man, you know,

848
00:52:39.680 --> 00:52:42.400
I could not be the greatest,

849
00:52:42.620 --> 00:52:44.540
but so many people want this thing

850
00:52:44.600 --> 00:52:48.240
that I could intercept it and ride that wave.

851
00:52:48.300 --> 00:52:49.720
And people believe that more

852
00:52:49.720 --> 00:52:50.680
than they believe in themselves.

853
00:52:51.220 --> 00:52:54.460
So most presentations will have that sort of thing.

854
00:52:56.800 --> 00:52:58.600
You know, and then, you know,

855
00:52:58.540 --> 00:53:03.640
what's, what are, you know, stories,

856
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:07.000
what are examples of people who have succeeded

857
00:53:07.080 --> 00:53:09.160
that might seem unlikely?

858
00:53:10.600 --> 00:53:13.500
I mean, it's not, this is not a quick answer.

859
00:53:13.620 --> 00:53:15.700
It's a very detailed answer

860
00:53:15.700 --> 00:53:17.940
and it's in the team building blueprint.

861
00:53:18.240 --> 00:53:19.900
You go, you have time to go through it.

862
00:53:21.080 --> 00:53:24.340
Now, I will tell you, if I was,

863
00:53:25.160 --> 00:53:27.380
you know, if I was joining an opportunity today,

864
00:53:27.400 --> 00:53:29.460
I would hope like hell

865
00:53:29.600 --> 00:53:32.000
to not make the opportunity video myself.

866
00:53:32.360 --> 00:53:37.020
I would hope like hell that I could rely on someone else's

867
00:53:37.080 --> 00:53:40.180
and kind of use and say, hey, I didn't even make one.

868
00:53:40.220 --> 00:53:41.760
You know, I just use this one.

869
00:53:42.360 --> 00:53:44.860
Because even, you know, once you make one,

870
00:53:45.140 --> 00:53:47.500
you do have some people think,

871
00:53:47.560 --> 00:53:49.580
oh, well, he made his own opportunity video.

872
00:53:49.580 --> 00:53:50.660
I could never do that.

873
00:53:52.360 --> 00:53:53.540
You know, and you can explain to them,

874
00:53:53.680 --> 00:53:54.520
hey, just use mine.

875
00:53:54.560 --> 00:53:55.960
But a part of them will be like,

876
00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:58.060
oh, I'm branding you then, you know.

877
00:53:59.200 --> 00:54:01.320
You know, so some people, it just,

878
00:54:01.500 --> 00:54:02.400
you know, it's not good for,

879
00:54:02.620 --> 00:54:05.560
I would want either, I mean, AI can,

880
00:54:05.900 --> 00:54:06.880
you know, make it nowadays.

881
00:54:07.820 --> 00:54:09.460
You just got to feed it, you know,

882
00:54:09.460 --> 00:54:11.000
the format and the structure.

883
00:54:12.500 --> 00:54:13.000
Okay.

884
00:54:13.640 --> 00:54:14.140
Yeah.

885
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:15.300
Cool.

886
00:54:19.860 --> 00:54:20.860
Very cool.

887
00:54:22.780 --> 00:54:22.780


888
00:54:27.200 --> 00:54:27.700
All right.

889
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:30.900
Well, might be the shortest one ever,

890
00:54:31.780 --> 00:54:34.040
but I hope no reason to go longer

891
00:54:34.040 --> 00:54:35.120
if there's no other questions.

892
00:54:36.880 --> 00:54:38.760
Rebecca, would you pray us out?

893
00:54:39.240 --> 00:54:40.380
We always appreciate it.

894
00:54:40.820 --> 00:54:41.900
I've missed your prayers.

895
00:54:42.120 --> 00:54:42.740
I've missed your prayers.

896
00:54:42.780 --> 00:54:44.380
They're so good, they're so good.

897
00:54:44.740 --> 00:54:44.900
All right.

898
00:54:45.080 --> 00:54:45.460
For sure.

899
00:54:45.580 --> 00:54:47.520
Yeah, Father God, we just thank you.

900
00:54:47.980 --> 00:54:49.000
Thank you for your grace, Lord,

901
00:54:49.000 --> 00:54:50.420
that is so sufficient, Lord.

902
00:54:50.680 --> 00:54:51.460
Thank you for provision.

903
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:54.160
Thank you for open ears and answer to prayers.

904
00:54:54.700 --> 00:54:56.380
You are the overseer of our souls,

905
00:54:56.440 --> 00:54:57.920
and we're grateful to be in your hands

906
00:54:57.920 --> 00:54:59.980
and to put our businesses in your hands, Lord.

907
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:01.360
You're the God of multiplication.

908
00:55:01.660 --> 00:55:06.760
So we trust you to bless the work of our hands, that it might honor you serve your

909
00:55:06.760 --> 00:55:08.920
kingdom, Lord, and be fulfilling for us.

910
00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:11.820
We just trust you and thank you for new insights and strategy.

911
00:55:12.000 --> 00:55:14.180
Help us be doers and not just hearers, Lord.

912
00:55:14.820 --> 00:55:17.320
Um, and may you get all the glory and praise in Jesus name.

913
00:55:17.700 --> 00:55:17.700


914
00:55:18.520 --> 00:55:18.900
Amen.

915
00:55:19.240 --> 00:55:19.580
Awesome.

916
00:55:19.860 --> 00:55:20.920
Well, I appreciate you guys.

917
00:55:21.060 --> 00:55:21.900
God bless you guys.

918
00:55:21.940 --> 00:55:24.480
Go out there and help some people, you know, you can.

919
00:55:25.180 --> 00:55:25.320
All right.

920
00:55:25.560 --> 00:55:26.060
Love you guys.

921
00:55:26.620 --> 00:55:27.260
See you.
