All right, welcome to Monday Heart Check-In.
This is October 27th, 2025.
So we're here just having a discussion tonight.
Yeah, we're just going to have a roundtable, guys, tonight and kind of see what's going
on.
If you can come on camera, that's great.
If you can't, I understand.
No big deal.
But Robert, since this is your first time, why don't you go ahead and introduce yourself.
I know you're kind of doing the, hi, how are you, a second ago, but just introduce
yourself so we know who you are and where you're from, what you do.
How'd you find the Last Year Single program?
All right, so, yeah, I go by Bob, so I know it says Robert there, but Bob's okay.
So I'm in New Jersey.
I'm a little bit outside of Morristown, New Jersey, if you know where that is, about 40
miles west of New York City, Manhattan.
I came about last year single.
So I was attending a session, I think it was back in March or April.
You guys were up at the King of Kings Worship Center in New Jersey, Bridge.
And so I was there.
I know a woman named Angie Lee, who I think was actually down with you guys in Austin
a lot of the days.
Yeah, she was just here.
Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
So she kind of introduced me to it.
And so I am a bit later in my life and been through a divorce and more recently in the
last two years or so, a breakup from a relationship where I thought was going to go to marriage
and ended up ending.
So I'm trying to really, you know, get it back out there and, you know, try to get it
right.
You know, it's been a day that I don't know, you know, I know the introduction here said
like for my first session, I was supposed to answer a question like, do you believe
God is emotionally involved in your life?
So some of what I was going to say is part of that introduction kind of flows into that
question.
So I don't know how you want to handle that, but I can keep going if you like or.
No, absolutely.
No, that's good.
That's a good jumping off point because that's a great question.
We talk a lot about what do you want?
That's a big, huge theme that we talk about.
But at the same time, knowing what's possible or believing what's possible, the realm of
belief is, is everything.
Because if you don't believe something is possible or is, um, uh, can happen or will
happen or is happening, then it's really difficult to have that experience.
So what's, what's the answer for your question?
So I was raised Catholic, um, and, um, my father was, well, my mother was Catholic,
Irish Catholic.
My father was Baptist, but he had to agree to have us raised Catholic.
So I was really, um, into my, my, up until I was in through college, I really was attending
Catholic church.
And, um, you know, it was, I always had a spiritual underpinning, but you know, it wasn't
solid.
And in that respect, uh, my father, who was a Baptist, read the book Bible a lot.
And, um, so he died when I was 30 and at that point I read the Bible for the first time
somewhere.
I just wanted to understand why he read it.
Right.
So I went through it twice.
Um, I, I didn't quite, I didn't at the time, I didn't get the concept of grace.
So I kind of put it, I put it aside and I just basically said like, uh, I'm going to
do my best God, but I just can't, I don't think I could be this perfect.
I'm not going to be able to, you know, I'll probably never have an impure thought again
in my life.
I'm like, I just never got this good.
So I kind of put it aside.
Um, but it was always important to me.
I always kept the Bible.
I didn't go to church though.
Uh, it wasn't really until I was in my fifties, mid fifties when I had a crisis point in my
life with, um, my divorce.
Um, it wasn't something I really expected or wanted, even though I knew the marriage
was failing.
Um, but still, you know, it was 20 years invested in this and it was three kids and, you know,
families and everything else.
I was like, this was not what I really wanted.
And it hit me hard that this was going to happen at the same time where he was, um,
also got laid off.
This was back in 28, 2008, 2009, when the crisis was hitting the home out where it was
hit.
Um, both then between divorce and unemployment at that point, I was in a kind of a crisis
situation when I really went back, decided I need to do, well, I should say preface that
knowing my marriage was failing.
I was also getting into reading the Bible to figure out what am I doing wrong?
This marriage?
Um, what can I do right to kind of resurrect this marriage?
I remember sitting there one guy thinking, God, you resurrected dead.
Maybe you can help resurrect this marriage because I can't figure out how to do this.
Um, so I got very much back into the faith.
Catholic church, I went to more of a kind of a design with more probably Pentecostal church,
totally different for a guy who was raised Catholic. But it was really, it was a really
good experience for me to be there. I think God put me there before I needed I knew I need to be
there. So as I was going through all this, I was really starting to experience some very tangible
experiences with God in my life. And things that people would say, like, that's weird,
or that doesn't happen. And I said, I know it doesn't, but I've experienced it. And I know,
real, and I can only attribute it to God. So that time, you know, it was always
very, I guess it's tangible, it felt hit hard. But you know, my background's a little bit of,
you know, you talk about childhood injuries, and, you know, I was a little bit neglected,
abandoned, rejected type of thing. And these things, like, were underpinning my life throughout
this. So God got me through all this. And that I met a woman a few years back, who I thought we
had a very God centered Christian focused relationship, probably the healthiest one I've had
in my life. And what it didn't, you know, it didn't, it didn't go to distance. So we ended up
she ended up ending the relationship. It was difficult, again, and I started feeling myself
falling. That's about two and a half years ago, I found myself falling back,
becoming more discouraged feeling again, even though I had these tangible experiences with God.
And, you know, I, I mean, I could speak to some of that stuff. But really,
what ended up happening was I started feeling discouraged, feeling like, okay, God, you were
there for me then, where are you now? I mean, this has been both my divorce, because my, you know,
my becoming more Christian, in view of my wife at the time, was a problem. And it actually fed
into a reason to want to get a divorce. So, you know, since then, it was God, I want to just I
want to Christian woman, I want to, I'm a good father, I didn't obviously succeed in my marriage,
I would like the opportunity to have a healthy Christian centered relationship. And I thought
that was what God, you know, my prayer for a number of years. And I thought, when it came
into my life, that was it. So now so when it comes back, circling back to the question,
which is you believe God is emotionally invested in your life. There's lapses. Yeah, there's times
I do. And then there's times like I question like, where are you? Like, why are you letting this happen?
You know, and I prayed for this woman to come into my life. I thought you brought her into my life.
And now she's gone. And I'm back. Again, it's a stage in my life, trying to figure out how do I
go about still time to my life, that would be something God and honoring to her.
Wow. So this relationship, most recent one, it's, do you still know the person? So it's
completely off, is what you're saying at this point. Yeah, I've tried. I've gone back. She was
a Christian, still continues to be a Christian, but you know, she has her own issues in life that
affected her. No, and the damage that, you know, from men to her, I mean, I remember she told me
once I was the healthiest relationship she ever had in her life. And, but I think, you know, when
certain things happen in a relationship, when we started talking marriage,
serious about what we had to do to come together, you know, housing, where are we going to live?
Oh, now she was also, she'd been in the States for over 25 years, but she was raised in Korea.
And so there were some cultural things that were starting to impact us as well. And at the
decided she thought, in the end, be a burden on you and your man, you know, you're retiring.
I'm not going to retire for another 10 years. And I think I'm going to be a burden on your life.
I think it's better if you we ended this and you went down somebody who's better aligned with you.
My problem with all of it was, you know, there wasn't a lot of negotiation, discussion and
compromise going through, like, how do we make it work? You know, and it would be cold, like,
no, don't come, don't contact me. So, you know, I've tried a couple of times, but it's been no,
without success. Yeah. So you, I mean, you ran into some logistical type, just for lack of a
word, type of deal breakers that just couldn't make the relationship go and some other factors.
Okay. Yeah. That makes sense.
And it's, you know, it's common and yeah, I'm sorry that, I'm sorry that you had
such high hopes in that and that it didn't go anywhere, um, for whatever reason.
Um, and that's the thing about, that's the thing about providence,
God, where are you sort of thing.
Is God emotionally involved?
Um, I had a thought today and it was, it's kind of tangent to, to that idea.
And, um, you know, we just found out actually tonight that some close
friends of ours, young friends, um, are they're pregnant and
this is their first baby.
And so it's exciting news and we were rejoicing with them and happy with them.
But, you know, that the news of a baby coming, expecting parents, you know,
it's exciting because you're wondering what is, what, what gender is going to
be the baby, uh, what, where are the baby's features going to be?
What color eyes, um, does he have?
What, what color hair is she going to have?
What, what is she going to do in life?
What is he going to, what is he going to be in life?
You know, like you start wondering these things, you start sort of
like going down the show, you don't, maybe not all at one time, but you
wonder over time and you have this expectation that's built up and this
excitement to build up, to anticipate what it's going to be like.
And, um, one of the things that's interesting is this couple that, um,
that is, is expecting the way they announced the baby is existence is
they've made up graduation cards for, for the baby's high school graduation
in the year, what the baby would be graduate, you know, expected to be
graduating high school in 2044 and send out graduation invitations as a
way to announce the baby's birth.
And I thought it was really creative.
I thought it was really interesting, but it goes hand in hand with what my
thought was this morning, which was like, you know, there's a certain amount
of expectation, anticipation for a new, a new child.
And the same way God has that same expectation of us as His children to
think that God doesn't operate that way.
When we as human beings operate with that way with, with imperfect
expectation, you know, with, with, uh, imperfect excitement within, you
know, like we're, we're living in the fallen state and this imperfect world.
But yet at the same time, there's a, there's an incredible amount of joy and
wonder and in, in, in inquisitiveness and all that that goes with expecting a child.
And then furthermore, you don't stop expecting once the child's born.
There's lots of new ventures, lots of new, along the whole journey.
So I was just wondering about this, this concept with God.
It's like, even though we know God knows the end from the beginning, we
know, He knows kind of like what we're going to do, because He lives
outside of the spectrum of time.
It, it, there's a fallacy that we as human beings, especially in religious
architecture, that makes us feel like God's so in control or God could just
do anything or like, well, if God's on my side, then, you know, like, where
is He and where is He in this moment?
You know, and why is that?
Why didn't He give me everything that I needed in order to be successful
now and all the time and every time, you know, and it goes along
with that whole parenting thing.
If you have children, then you know exactly what that's all about.
Like you understand, it's like, I'm there for my kids, but I'm not
there every second of every day.
I am when they're babies, but when they're adults, you
know, they're living their life.
And I have the quality time.
I check in with them.
I'm in relationship with my kids.
I know what's going on in their life.
I'm involved with my kids' lives.
Sometimes we're a little too involved, but that's okay.
And two of my kids are married and my third child is engaged to be married.
So they're starting their own family.
And so there's a lot of the, a lot of the part of the journey that
we've seen and we've helped our kids.
But at the same time, there is a healthy sense of, you know, when your kids
reach their twenties and they're getting into their adulthood and they're
getting into their years of independence.
They don't know longer live at home.
And maybe they went through a college time where they're learning how to
live on their own and so forth, depending on whatever the situation was.
But at certain time, especially after they've left home and now they're making
and forging their way in the world, it's important that.
that we allow them to do that.
And so the same thing happens with God with us.
And so I guess, I don't know, I'm not trying to explain God.
I'm just trying to draw, you know, like similarities between the way we live
and how we view our children is the same way that God views us.
He views us not with a, oh, I know what's going to happen.
Like no big deal.
No, he views us as children as, as what are they going to do?
What, how are they going to navigate through this?
I want to see them, you know, what he's in, he's anticipating what our effort or
what our response is going to be, or what our posture is going to be.
And yeah, it's sometimes because life is the way it is.
It feels like there are long drawn out seasons of darkness and
like, oh, like what's going on.
But the truth is, is that he's, he's always there and he's always been there.
And sometimes it's really the mature part of the journey is to, instead of just
like, God, I thought you were supposed to answer all my problems.
It's like, well, what would, what would that be like if you did that to your
parents, like mom, dad, I thought you were supposed to answer all my problems.
Like that would not make very much sense.
I mean, it wouldn't, you know what I'm saying?
It's kind of like it, it would be, it'd be like, what are you doing?
Like, and then your parents would be like, you're a grown person.
Like, what do you mean I'm supposed to solve all your problems?
You know what I'm saying?
So there's a certain release of that, but at the same time, good parents.
It's like, I have a coffee cup that says you're never too old to need your dad
to, to not need, or never too old to, yeah, you're never too old to need your dad.
And it's just kind of a reminder.
It's kind of like, if you have a good dad and if you don't have a good family,
this is harder to connect, but good dads, if you can imagine, and good parents
are there all of your life, you know?
Unfortunately, sometimes those parents do pass on.
If we get older, my, my dad is 85.
He's probably going to not be around much longer.
I mean, I hope he is, but 85 is pretty aging.
And so I have, there's a shortened season there with that.
So it's like, at some point my mom is 80, 81.
Um, my bonus dad is 78.
So they're not long for this world in a sense, in a very natural sense.
So it's like, I have to deal with the fact that I'm not going to
have them around maybe much longer.
So I guess I'm just trying to draw that.
I just, that was an interesting thought to me this morning because I was feeling
like, wow, God doesn't leave us.
He doesn't abandon us.
He doesn't like, he's isn't just like not there.
He's not an absentee father, but at the same time, he does want to
anticipate like, what's going to happen?
What are you going to do?
Like, where are you, how, how are you going to navigate this?
How are we going to like, and then when we call out to him, he's there for us.
And he's like, okay, this happened.
I got divorced.
I too have the same testimony and I prayed the same prayer.
I was like, Lord, I said, you know, I don't, I don't want to be single
the rest of my life, but I have these kids and I have this career.
I can't just like pick up and marry anybody.
I mean, I really need to, um, have the right person in my life.
And through his providence and a little bit of serendipity, you know, I not
long after that, I met Jackie and we were neighbors and there's a story about all
that, but yeah, there's definitely a story.
And, but at the same time, you know, God's faithful.
He really is.
And so this is where the belief comes in.
Um, when you believe that God is okay, scripture says earthly parents being
good parents, how much more would your heavenly father provide?
And so we have to believe, I, I, I'm convinced that it's good to believe
that God is the best parent and the parent in such a way that you understand
if you were a parent, how you would deal with your children
as they're going through crises.
Sometimes you're very involved in the crisis at the critical moments.
And sometimes there are seasons where you're not as.
evolve and you understand your kids are going through a hard season, but it's
something that they need to walk through is something that they're going to walk
through.
And sometimes there isn't literally anything you can do, right?
It's like, I would give you the money, but I don't have the money, or I do have
the money and I would give you the money, but I don't think it's going to solve
your problem.
You know?
And I can't, I can't go to the job interview for you.
I can't do the relationships that you have, that you need, or that are
necessary in your life.
I can't do those relationships for, for you, but I can be there in, in that, in
the season with you, you know what I'm saying?
So it's a, it's a hard truth, but it's also like a very profound, beautiful
truth, you know?
And so that's where, that's where faith comes in.
That's where belief comes in.
That's where setting your expectations in faith, believing that God is a
rewarder of those that diligently seek him.
It's not about putting the, in the hours or putting in the time, Oh, you
haven't sought, you know, you haven't sought him enough.
It's just a matter of like people who are like, okay, this is what I want.
This is why the, okay.
I hate, I don't hate it, but I just don't want people to be annoyed by it.
But it's, it really is truthful.
It's just like, this is why the question, what do you want is so important.
Because if you can answer the question, what do you want?
Then you can set your gaze and set your faith on it.
Go Lord.
Okay.
This is what I really desire out of my love life.
This is what I really want out of my, this next season or whatever it is.
And I'm, I'm putting that desire before you and I'm asking you to show me the way.
So I've set my plans.
Now I'm expecting you to help me take the right steps and that's as well.
That's six proper 69.
Yeah.
And so as we're, as we're progressing on this journey, that's the way it works to
wonder, like, I mean, it's, it is human nature is like, Oh God, where are you?
The Psalms of course, bears that out so much, you know, like David's like, Oh
you've, you know, abandoned me.
You've left me.
I'll, you know, where are you?
This is the, I'm in the darkest hour.
We all as humans, we all go through that.
So that's a very human response.
But at the same time, when you can come to yourself and coming into clarity, coming
to sort of a right mind and go, you know, okay, what is it I really am after here?
What does I really want to like see in this next season?
And you may even feel like God is leading you into something.
Like, I really feel God has for me a person or has for me a job
opportunity or a career move or, you know, a location move because
of whatever reasons, right?
And you may be feeling led into that.
So you just like, you know, I feel like there's a desire for that.
And so Lord, I'm going to partner with you to set my expectations in faith to
believe that you're going to show me the right steps to take.
And that may not sound like an easy answer, but it is a really good answer.
You know what I'm saying?
It is a very whole, complete and mature scriptural answer to kind of the where's
God, you know, but, um, I mean, I hope that's encouraging and I just, I just
think it's interesting that that's just a thought I had this morning.
I was just driving the car.
I was talking to myself and I just thought about that sort of like analogy,
like that God doesn't, God parents is like good parents parent their children
with expectation and anticipation and excitement all along the journey.
Like, what's he going to do next?
What's, what's, what's, what's, where's he going to end up now?
You type thing, you know, how's it all going to end type thing.
And God looks at us with that expectation, but at the same time, ready
and willing and able to, to help.
If we let him, we have that conversation.
It is the, like there are points to your, you know, yes, I
understood everything you said.
And at our point in life, you'd say, you know, I like a little bit divine
intervention right here, rather than let me walk through this.
I mean, I've had the very tangible things when I was like, Lord, I
need a job, like really fast.
And yeah.
Okay.
Here's your job.
But yeah.
How did that happen?
Yeah.
And then that was to me, that was divine intervention at the same time.
While at the same time, why I had to go out network and put resumes out and call
people and all that stuff, like the staff, but yes, I understand what you're saying.
I don't always want to walk.
the steps.
Yeah, of course.
That's the work, you know?
And sometimes, you know, it's like, look,
I should choose a salad, you know,
because it's healthier or whatever.
But right now, I just want ice cream.
You know, it's just kind of like sometimes, you know,
the ice cream supersedes, you know,
the better choice that we want.
But the question is, is if we choose ice cream too much,
then we pay for it.
So it's like, now what?
So it's like, you know,
I'm not trying to oversimplify things,
but I'm trying to make it in such a way
that it's kind of like, yeah,
it's really kind of like that, you know?
But no, Robert, I appreciate you sharing.
I really do.
Bob, my dad's name is Robert and he goes by Bob as well.
Matter of fact, he lives in a 55 plus apartment community
and it's really social.
It's not an old folks home at all.
There's no medical or anything,
but he's fit as a fiddle.
He's got his mind really good.
And he walks around there like big man on campus
and he's Bobby to everybody like,
hey, I'm Bobby, you know, like, oh Lord.
And I kind of roll my eyes
and here's my dad coming along here
trying to shuck and jive, you know,
and just like be Mr. Social.
So I'll have to remember that.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So guys, what else is going on today?
We've got Thomas popped on here.
Hey, Thomas, hadn't seen you for a minute.
Good to, I know you've been here
because I've seen you on some other calls,
but I haven't been here as much.
We've got Tim on here.
Hi, Tim.
Matthew was on here before.
See you on camera now.
John's on here.
Good to see you guys.
What's going on with you guys?
Anybody else got anything going on?
You want to share questions?
Let us know some of your victories.
I've been learning good stuff,
but it looks like Tim, you unmuted yourself.
So would you like to go first?
No, go ahead.
Yeah, I'm muting away there.
I'm muted, let's see.
Ha ha ha, that's funny.
Okay, well, thanks.
Yeah, yeah, I've been learning a lot.
I just did my rescue SCUBA certification.
Weekend before this last one,
and that was really helpful.
In my dancing classes,
they had talked about leadership as invitation.
And so I had made that a rule.
And then in this rescue class,
they were talking about how you have to command people,
like in times of crisis and emergency.
So it was helpful both to understand
that sometimes instead of creating rules,
you need to have wisdom to decide
which set of principles to apply.
Yeah.
And then also to understand
that leadership requires choices in the moment.
Yeah.
So that's been good.
I went to Akiyana's art conference.
I was so sorry to miss the party in Austin.
Oh my gosh.
How exciting.
It was.
I don't know if you guys saw any pictures
or video or whatever.
We'll post more.
There's some on social out there,
but it was the most overwhelming blessed experience
of having more than a hundred of our community
of last year's single in one place in Austin.
And many of the people we had met before
because of different retreats or different events
or places that we went to and saw them at church.
Like Bob mentioned,
we were at King of Kings earlier this year.
And so many of the people we had met,
but there were so many others that we had not met at all.
But to see them all in one place was just so cool.
And we celebrated, we had a great time.
We had a party, we had cake, we had food, we had prayer.
We had, we honored our staff and our team
and some key people that are really helped
to sort of like establish the last year single movement.
Nope, it looks like we lost him.
Oh, yeah.
He'll come back.
Yeah.
He always does.
Yeah.
And then someone had a supernatural dream
about me going to Italy to St. Peter's Basilica.
So I'm leaving tomorrow for there.
So that'll be interesting.
Wait, really?
Tomorrow?
Yep.
They jumped on that one pretty quick.
No, no, they, this was in like July.
Oh, the dream was like last night or something.
No, so grateful for that and curious what's ahead.
We'll see. We'll see.
What's going on with you, Tim?
Hey, guys. Yeah, great to see you,
but bummer I missed last night too.
I planned to go and then my flight got delayed
and I had to work today,
so I didn't plan much.
I should have taken Monday off,
but if they ever want to move to Saturday night,
that would be awesome.
But let's see.
I was at a conference this weekend for the Jesus Film Ministry,
if you've ever heard of it, Jesus Film Project,
and just movie about the life of Christ
and translated to more than 2,000 languages,
but it was good.
It was just a big reminder of eternal perspective,
and there's a book called the BEMA,
there's a BEMA seat in the Bible
that talks about judgment of believers.
But it was like an acting rendition of that.
I'd never heard of it, but it was very convicting
that this guy was 35 married kids and was just focused
on making a partner as I think in a law firm or accounting firm,
something like that, and then rapture happens and he hadn't done,
he was saved, so he was going to heaven,
but just really hadn't done much to live for Christ.
But then other people had,
like even the housekeeper at the office,
he always belittled and wasn't very nice too,
but she'd always prayed a lot.
So it was just a good reminder that 100 years from now or less,
that all the things that I worry about really won't matter anymore.
I won't care about was I married,
did I have kids, this and that.
Things that consume me right now,
those things won't matter.
So I was just trying to keep that perspective in mind.
So I've fallen to the lie of my life is only complete,
I only fulfill my life purpose if I get married and have kids or get
married and raise step-kids or something.
I know that's just life in the pit of hell,
but it's hard to believe that when we live in it.
I was pretty much the only single person in a room of 380 people there,
like older adults.
So it was just kind of.
Oops, you're breaking up a little.
Tim, you said that you feel like the idea of purpose or things along those lines.
Do you have some guiding principles that help you decide what's important and
what's not important or like,
because I know in first Corinthians,
it says, let everyone live according to how they've been called.
Whoops. Do we lose you, Tim?
Sorry. Can you hear me?
Yeah.
Is it breaking up?
It was a little bit.
It seems a little less now.
I'll stop my video.
That tends to help.
Did that help at all?
Yeah, I'll go outside.
Okay. Yeah. So yeah.
So do you have any tools or ideas that you've found that have been,
because obviously our lives have meaning, they can have meaning.
But I don't know.
Do you, I mean,
is there anything that you've found that helps you decide what's kind of a lie or
the truth or what's going to be meaningful in the long run?
Yeah. Just really the scripture,
some Christian books, a couple of Christian books.
I've been to Christian counseling before.
So I'd say that's really it.
Am I still breaking up? I went outside.
No, you're doing great now. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah.
So I don't know if anybody else struggles with that or it's just,
I'm trying to break myself of that mindset.
I'm very extroverted.
So I think that's one of the challenges for me is I do enjoy,
some people probably get tired of being around their spouse and everything.
Maybe I would, but I don't really sense that.
I've had a serious girlfriend.
I didn't really sense that.
So yeah, I have some regrets.
I dated a girl for a long time.
I didn't think she was interested.
So I broke it off.
And then finally when I tried to get back together,
then she wasn't interested.
And so I was like, oh man, I think I could have married her.
That's tough.
So yeah, but just trying to keep eternal perspective.
I think that's the big thing.
I'm, you know, God's always trying to teach me repeatedly.
Guys, I'm back.
I'm, I apologize.
My phone died and I wasn't doing good battery management.
So I took me that long to get back on.
Welcome back.
So I, I miss your share, Tim.
I'm sorry about that, but hopefully it was, uh, sounds like it was a
little bit of some, some bad news.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, just, yeah, just trying to learn.
I was at a good conference, um, this weekend with Jesus film ministry.
And it was just focused on, um, you know, eternal perspective.
And I, I tend to get wrapped up in, um, in an unhealthy way, you know, about
the idea of trying to get married.
And I've just had a lot of not, not success with, with dating.
And, um, sometimes it's not, I don't like the girl or the girl
ends up like not liking me.
And so I just, I just keep struggling with the idea of, okay, Lord, I, you
know, I'm sure you're trying to teach me things, but you know, I just, I
don't see his grace in my life in that area and it gets a little frustrating.
So, um, have you been married before?
I was married for a year, uh, back in 2012.
Yeah.
And it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, I mean, pardon my
French, it was from hell.
It was really bad.
Thankfully she was a nonbeliever.
She wanted to leave.
So I, I let her leave.
He's remarried.
So, but yeah, that was, that was 11 years ago.
And I went through divorce, uh, divorce care and, you know,
counseling and things, but, um, yeah.
So you, you just, are you struggling or you're saying you're struggling to
connect in the dating process, like with the right person, or do you think that,
um, do you, do you find that there's a commonality with the type of person
that you're going after or that connects with you, or is there no
commonality at all in terms of like,
yeah, I don't see a commonality.
Like the girl I dated for a lot and pursued for a long time.
She was very extroverted, pretty ADD.
The girl that I dated for eight months after that, I thought
was going to marriage.
She was more introverted and, uh, I really liked that.
She was very stable.
Um, and, uh, so I think, you know, they're very, my friends would say
they had very different personalities, so I wouldn't think it's one type of person.
Um, so I don't think, I think my issue is I don't find a whole lot of girls out
there that seem to be a good match.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I'm not looking for Miss America.
That's for sure.
A good match in what way or, or are they not marriage minded?
Some aren't marriage minded, you know, the, the girl I dated for eight
months, she ended up saying, I just don't actually three girls.
Maybe it was just, they didn't like me, but, um, but just don't, I don't, they
probably won't get remarried or married.
One of them hasn't been married.
So, um, yeah.
And some don't seem marriage minded.
Some, I don't know.
It just seems like it's hard to, I mean,
I don't want to say all the good ones are taken.
Cause I know there are a lot of great ones in, um, YLS, but, um, I just, I,
there just aren't a lot of, like I was at a conference and I was, there was one
single girl there and I inquired about, you know, talk to her, talk, talk to
someone who knows her and she has a serious boyfriend and they're kind of
moving towards engagement, you know?
So it's like, there's just a real paucity of women out there.
And I know women say about men and the ones that are out there, you're not,
not very, not very exciting.
You know, not, and what I mean by that is not very like, I'll go to sports
bar with a couple of buddies to watch a football game and the girls that are
there, it's like, I would never, you know, I would not be interested in asking
them out and at church, you know, there are, there are a lot of great 25, 30
year olds, but you know, they're half my age.
So, you know, um, so yeah, it's just a challenge and, you know, I guess God
maybe wants me for single for a reason.
And, um, I don't know what that is, but I think it's just to, you know,
trust him better, trust him more.
Um, you know, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, the, the, the only thing that keeps on coming up to me is, um, that's
why I was asking about the marriage minded thing is, is I'm not sure
if that may be the common thread is that you might be meeting girls that
aren't quite as marriage minded as maybe they think, or you think, or
they maybe even want to be.
And so it's kind of faltering before it really ever gets a chance to be something.
But that could, that could be a commonality.
That's something to look for that look into, but yeah, I guess I'm surprised.
I didn't know.
I thought Christian girls wanted to get married, but I'm finding that a lot of
them, they would say they do, but they don't, it's a, it's a complex thing.
It's, it's hard to say Christian girls.
Like that's, that's a broad, like, that's like, just say, just say women
because, I mean, I mean, only cause I've dated just Christian girls, like
pretty strong Christian girls, but yeah, I wouldn't know, I mean, maybe
non-Christian girls are the same.
I mean, well, the reality is, is that, you know, women are finding, you know,
there's more and more reasons in the world we live in today for men and women.
There are different reasons for men and different reasons for women, but
nonetheless, there are more and more reasons overall in the culture that we
live in for people to find reasons to not be married, like it's, it's, uh,
it's, uh, it's, it's pretty rough in terms of the marriage thing because
marriage and relationships looks hard and it doesn't look attractive.
And the only, the, one of the things that's also a factor is there are too
many things to occupy our time and our energy and our resources.
You have too many alternatives to say, you know what?
Maybe I, maybe I don't need to be married.
Maybe I can just go have relationship with a bunch of people, get my
relationship tank filled, whatever that is, and enjoy my life and make money
and see the world and have friends.
And the world is my oyster sort of thing, you know, or world is my misery
sort of thing, whatever, whatever your choice of poison is, you know?
And the problem is, is that it's just, it's like that.
And so it's a strategy of the enemy.
It's just, it's a sign of the times and the day that we live in, of course.
Right.
And that's a huge factor, but I really believe, and there's something
that, that happened last night as well.
That's really incredible.
I met, I don't know, some of you may remember this guy, Tom, she might
remember him, the guy named James Margulies, James Margulies, he was on
calls, uh, this, these type of calls more than a year ago.
And at one point he was talking about how he had connected the, the, the
woman that he, uh, he was with.
She was a part of last year single.
She had become part of the program.
She told him about last year single.
And so that's where, how he joined the men's side.
And so he started coming on.
Well, in the course of their sort of getting to know each other, something, I
can't remember exactly what the details are, but something he said or did just
kind of like left a bad taste in her mouth.
And so she was just like, I don't know about this guy.
And so she kind of like cooled off the relationship to the
point where it wasn't anything.
Well, he felt very affected by that.
He's like, no, he wasn't going to give up.
He was just like, no, there's something to this, this, this, I like this girl.
I like this woman.
I feel bad that whatever I said or did upset her.
And in the course of the call, just like this call, I said, I said, well,
sometimes, you know, it's not about a text or not about a voicemail, whatever.
And if you, if you have to, you may even need to write her a letter.
And I don't know if you remember this, but I, as you're shaking your
head, Tom, as you remember this, I told him that you may have to write a letter.
So what did he do?
He wrote a three page letter from his heart, from us, from his, from his mind
and to say, Hey, I'm sorry, whatever.
And you know, this is not, you know, this is maybe there was a wrong impression
or maybe there, you know, I came across wrong and I didn't mean that, but I'm
sorry for making you feel the way you feel.
I'd really like to have an opportunity to, um, he wrote this letter.
Okay.
And that letter got to her and it was stacked in a bunch of other mail and it
got hidden in a stack of bills that were on her kitchen table or on her desk at
her house or something for like a month for like the longest time.
And he's like, Oh my gosh.
Well, like, I don't know whatever happened to that.
She finally found the letter.
She read the letter, her heart was changed and she gave him another
opportunity and now they're married.
They got married last November.
They are celebrating their first year anniversary next month in November.
And they were there at the party last night.
And he told me that story and I'm like, Oh my gosh, like James, his name sounded
familiar and I didn't recognize his face.
But then when he said the letter, I'm like, you're the guy that wrote the letter.
Like, that's incredible.
That's, it was amazing.
There were probably a dozen other stories of individuals that were there at the
party last night, because there were not just single part of our community, but
there were married couples that were success stories of last year, single
there at the party last night.
And it was absolutely incredible.
And so I only say that to say that there's, there's so many levels of
hope, um, to where things can be rekindled.
Things are where maybe, maybe you look before, but now, you know, if
you look again, it's different.
There's so many levels of these stories and, and thinking about people and things.
And there's, there's definitely a strategy of the enemy to, to,
to make marriage unattractive.
But I think there's a grace.
And I think God is what God is doing in last year.
Single is giving a grace to help us show, um, how great marriage can be.
It's like, I hate to say it.
If politically this rubs you the wrong way, but make marriage
great again, sort of thing.
But I don't mean that.
I don't mean that politically.
I just mean it in the sense of like, you know, it's, it's a great phrase and it's
true, there's like, there's, there's a way that God, I think is wanting to do.
Um, again, in marriage, he's wanting to show his sons and daughters.
And when Jackie accepted the call the first time to start this movement,
that was the phrase that the Lord asked her, said, I want
my sons and daughters married.
Will you help me get them?
Will you help me, you know, get them understanding this.
And that was the original mandate.
And she said, yes.
And from that 1600 people that we can count and we've lost count since then
1600 people have got engaged or married.
You know, as, as a result of touching this program, not all of them met in this
program are all, not all of them met because of the program, but they met
in tangent or connected to, or one or the other, or both or whatever was in the
program, um, connected with one of our events, whatever it was, and we can
document that and so there's something, something on that and it may be bleak
in the world, in our society for marriage, but not when God is involved
and not when God has a hand in your life.
So it's a matter of faith and trust to go.
Okay.
If it can happen for James, if it can happen for all the other success stories
we have in our community, then it can happen for you.
It can happen for me and it can happen at all ages, all walks of life, all
backgrounds of life, all income and ratio levels and all of that, it really can
happen and, um, so I just want, I say that to increase your faith tonight to,
to give you hope that, um, it's possible.
Not all hope is lost in this area and the God is really doing, um, something
about matter of fact, something that James said at the party last night.
Again, not trying to be politically motivated here at all.
It just happens to be a fact.
He said he was, uh, he was a big Charlie Kirk, um, watcher and he was paying
attention to watch a lot of videos.
He said there was a video that he came across and Charlie Kirk was being
interviewed and he was talking about marriage and family and the statement
was Charlie, uh, reportedly said a lot of people that quote, a lot of people
have given up on the idea of marriage, but I know I've heard of a woman.
Her name is Jackie Dorman and she wrote a book called last year or
married in 12 months or less.
You should check out her last year single program.
And then we checked up on it and we found out because we researched it and
we found out that that was an actual quote that he had said at some point in
an interview and we're, I'm looking for, I'm looking for the video evidence of
it as well, because I want to get that video of it, not to try to like hang
out, like catch a coattails, but it's significant for someone like, again,
regards to politics, you have to, you have to know that a guy like Charlie
who was part of his thing was to contend for family, contend for marriage,
contend for children, contend for like, you know, things we believe in as, as
Christian believers, he had those values, he espoused those values and he was
always championing those values in his, in his talks.
And I think it's significant that someone like him would mention our movement.
And so, again, for what it's worth, I think God is trying to do something in marriage.
And even last night's event was just another, like, it wasn't a feather in the cap as much
as it was just like, wow, a heavy sort of like, sort of a mandate, a resolve to say that I want
my sons and daughters married. And I'm going to make a way, if they're willing,
if my sons and my daughters, those who are followers of Jesus and have a righteousness
that they're after in their life, and they want it, they can have it.
And so, you know, we were releasing that last night in the spirit. I'm releasing it right now
as I'm talking about on this call to tell you that, you know, God wants you married. Like,
we even say that phrase, like, God wants you married even more than you want to be married.
And that's the way to say that's like, you know, like, God's so into this, this institution of a
man and a woman establishing legacy and establishing offspring and establishing,
you know, a family unit. It's so important to the work of righteousness that he is all in
and he's all in for you. And sometimes, you know, we get in our own way. You know, we let our flesh
get in the way. We're like, oh, that person's not cute enough. That person's not pretty enough. I
mean, there are levels of attraction that go way beyond just appearances, you know? And men,
that's somewhat of a hang up can be sometimes like, oh, I want a supermodel. I mean, okay,
I don't want a supermodel, but I just want somebody who just kind of looks like a supermodel.
I'm like, all right, seriously, bro. It's like, that's cool, but that's not all that marriage is
about. You know what I'm saying? There is more depth to that. So if that's a stumbling block,
then it's like, you know, allow the Lord, do some hard work around that and allow the Lord
to get you beyond that. But at the same time, don't limit yourself. See, that could be a
limitation in and of itself, like just on looks alone. Like why would you swipe left and swipe,
you know, against somebody because just their looks, like you don't even know them.
There's so many people, like it was, we were having some of the women talk about it last
night. They're like, man, it's really interesting to see somebody online, meet them and kind of
like get to know them, but you're not really sure. Women are doing the same thing, by the way,
as far as like the appearance, you know, because men like really represent them really poorly in
their pictures because men don't know how to take pictures. It's terrible. And so women are like
suspect over like, who's this guy, you know, like, but then it's like when they meet you in person
and they feel your vibe, like, oh, okay. Like I like this person's energy. I like this vibe. Like
they're more attractive in real life. They're more attractive in person.
So you have to give it enough chance to get to the point where you're like, I need more
information to see if this person's even viable. I need, I need more information to see this person
is even, um, there's even more to talk to. So I know that's a hard process. I know it's
really uncomfortable in a lot of ways, but it's necessary to get to the good thing.
It's necessary to get to the reward of the fulfillment of the relationship of what God has
for you. So, um, I'm saying all this with as much encouragement as I can. I'm not trying to beat up.
I'm not trying to like put down. I'm just trying to say that, yeah, there's some work. And if you
want to be in relationship and a marriage, godly relationship, I will say this in all faith
that you can have it. God is ready and willing and able to honor that for you.
Just partner with him to do the hard work, to do the inner work, put your best foot forward,
try your best and let God do his miraculous work. Amen.
Yeah. I appreciate that. That's such great encouragement to me, but I think to all of us.
And yeah. Yeah, no, no, no. Yeah. No, I'm yeah. No, I, whenever, whenever I do this,
I'm always talking to everybody. Yeah. I just want to say one, one, just 10 seconds.
Just want to say thank you to you and Jackie, because, um, most, you know, naturally most
marrieds want to do ministry with other marrieds or kids or this or that. And so,
you know, singles can be difficult. So I really appreciate how God's put singles on your heart
and that you dedicate yourselves. It means a lot. So thank you.
Well, I appreciate that. Thank you for saying that. Yeah.
It's again, it was just last night was a culmination of just a lot of that in our
face and it was just a huge blessing to be able to see that, that so many lives
have been touched and changed.
And, you know, even a lot of the ladies and a lot of people that were there
last night, you know, met through this group and they live in different cities
and they meet up and they like, are meeting each other for the first time
in person, some of them, and they're finally meeting and they're like, they're
getting good community and friendship.
And like, it's just, it's amazing, you know, aside from finding
their spirit mate type thing.
And we did announce last night, we did announce a new program
that we're calling spirit mate.
And it is a resource for couples and a research, a resource for newly married
and even longtime married individuals.
So we now are starting a program called spirit mates where there'd be coursing,
there'll be coaching, there'll be resources and events, just like we have
for last year single, but for married people.
And we want to do that as a resource because we have what we call SIMBAS,
which is save your marriage before it starts.
And so it is a class that, that individuals who are wanting to get married or think
they want to get married or engaged, they can take that through with us and through
last year's single program and they can get, they can get that help, but it's
just a, it's just one class, but the spirit mates program is now going to be
a resource for those that are engaged.
We'll allow engaged people to be involved.
People who are getting married, just got married, newlyweds, and possibly
even individuals that have been married for a long time, and we've gathered
some, some really good coaches, some married couples, some other married
couples that have long history of marriage and good coaches that are
going to be speaking into that.
There's four, there's four couples actually that will be speaking into
that, including me and Jackie that will be helping couples.
So that's to say that when you all come into that level of relationship,
you can continue on with resources that we'll have within this community to be
able to help you navigate through the marriage relationship as well.
David, right.
You've had your hand up for a long time, bro.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead, bro.
Yeah, that's okay.
Can I just take like, I know we're right at time, so I don't want to
take too much time for people, but yeah, I had a hard weekend.
It's been a while since you and I've talked, but I'm like in an
early level three relationship.
So it's been about 10 weeks and yeah, I decided to cancel my weekend meeting
with the girl that I was seeing.
There was, yeah, there was a lot of like not respecting my boundaries and really,
as the guys know, like really pushing for old information and very jealous
about a girl who referred me to the program.
So this girl was constantly asking about this girl, asking about this girl.
And I said, look, like, as we keep focusing on that, like if you're going
to pull me back to the past that I can't stay in the present, like I need
to put all my energy into the future.
Um, and, uh, yeah, she's getting triggered.
She's getting triggered a little bit.
Right.
And she just kind of said like, oh, you don't understand my anointing and
you're new in the program and I've been here since day one.
And so, and, uh, she's also 10 years older than me.
So we had a, we had a long talk.
And so I just said, look like, you know, like this relationship.
So the person that she was obsessed with was someone who I used to date,
who is a lovely person, wasn't interested in me named Phoebe.
And I said, it can't be you, me and Phoebe.
It needs to be just David and Evelyn.
And so we had a talk, we had a long conversation.
She apologized and she said, you know what?
I was, she said I was kind of arrogant and I kind of felt like I'd arrived.
And I realized that like, I need to work on some of these things.
She kind of said, like, I understand if you want to take a step back and
kind of just go to level two again.
Um, but she, she said that she's actually on Wednesday is going to be
meeting with a coach, um, or somebody through a prayer call that's apparently
very difficult to pray like, and so, um, and so she's going to be praying with
that and she said, like, I realized that like, I want to work on some of this stuff.
So, yeah.
So right now you canceled, you canceled the plans you had with her just for the
weekend, but, um, are you in your heart and your mind, or even in her heart and
her mind, are you kind of like, did you just, did you backed off the relationship
or you're just going, you're just kind of pausing it for right now?
I think we're still talking to each other.
I think for me, I've backed off holding hands.
I think that's the only intimacy we have is holding hands, but I think for me, that would
be too much right now.
But I would say we're probably still in life.
And it's hard.
I mean, because once you go anything physical, it's hard to really draw that back.
So that's challenging.
But at the same time, yeah, I mean, to give some space, give some air to breathe.
Because it sounded like she was having some triggering things happen to her.
And if she's aware of that, and she apologized about that, and wants to do some more work
around that, that's cool.
And at the same time, yeah, if you came, whether you were intending to or not, if you came
across a little arrogant to her, that can be just because I feel like you're confident
in a lot of the healing that you've gotten in recent months and the work you're doing.
And that's just a matter of just you just being a little bit more sensitive to kind
of like tied to her emotions in that moment, try to make, oh, okay, I hear you, basically.
Like I don't want to come across as arrogant or whatever.
So just kind of like kind of soften that a little bit.
But yeah, I mean, I wish you, you know, well in that pause, but it's okay.
It could be just a bump in the road, you know?
Yeah.
It could be just sort of a temporary thing, like a little yellow flag, and then that's it.
Yeah, I think for me, this was a red flag.
It was a big one.
And yeah, but we've talked about it.
And I mean, it can be a red flag for now, and then it can turn.
But yeah, maybe with some time.
Hi, guys.
And she is the woman of the hour.
Party last night.
Oh, yeah, we talked all about it.
Do you tell him how many amazing women were there?
A lot.
There was a lot of beautiful women there.
That's the only thing I didn't mention.
But yeah, there was.
I mean, don't mean to make you feel bad, but you should have been like literally
a hundred beautiful women from all over the country in Canada.
And so.
People flew down, eh?
Oh, my gosh.
Oh, yeah, eh.
There was probably 15.
I didn't realize I did it.
There's probably 15 to 20 different states that were represented and outside
the United States and Canada that were represented at that party last night.
It was incredible.
So, guys, we got to do something because there's way too much matchmaking that
needs to happen right now.
Oh, question.
Any chance that that could be on a Saturday night in the future?
I had to work today, so I couldn't go, but.
No, I mean, well, do you live here?
Are you in Austin, Tim?
I'm in Dallas.
I'm not that far, but I just I knew I'd get home like at two, three in the morning.
Yeah, yeah.
Most people were staying over and I hear you had to work.
Well, the good news is that we made some announcements for our next five years.
We're really going to focus on community based matchmaking.
You know, that's really what we want to focus on.
We feel like that's one area where we've been mildly successful.
I mean, we have sixteen hundred success stories, but, you know, only a fraction
of them are actually from within the community and we want to see more
from within the community.
And so there isn't a reason why we can't be doing that.
And so that is what we want to focus on.
One of the main things we want to focus on going forward.
I think, yeah, having some more in-person stuff is going to be helpful.
And my voice is almost gone because we were we were we were going hard
to like two o'clock in the morning.
So it was crazy.
OK, it was so fun, you guys.
You would have had so much.
I believe it.
So I wish I were there.
It sounds amazing.
So, yeah, we had to make we actually had to make the announcement.
Y'all don't got to go home.
You don't got to go home.
You can't stay here.
So we've got to close.
So I actually forgot a part of my testimony, David,
if that's OK, just to share briefly.
So what the Lord said is he says, you're going to know this for me
because I'm going to give you gold.
I'm going to give you a box of gold.
And I thought like and I was thinking maybe it'll be metaphorically.
But today I like buying and selling.
So I bought a storage locker and I found a whole box
filled with like 24 karat gold rings.
And like, oh, yeah, like literally like at least like
probably like I would say, like, I don't know, like maybe 15 necklaces
that are 24 karat gold, probably 30 rings that are 30 karat gold
with appraisals in this box and a storage locker that I paid for 100 bucks.
So that's incredible.
He's like, you're going to know it's for me, because on Monday,
I'm going to give you gold.
And I thought, oh, like I just thought he meant like, oh, men's ministry,
like it's going to be great.
But it was like actual a whole box, a whole storage.
I don't know about you, I would be taking that as a sign.
I would definitely be taking that as a credit act.
Yeah, gold is $4,000 an ounce, so.
Yeah.
So thank you, Laura, because I was pretty nervous to cancel my plans with her, but God's
like, hey, when you, you're going to get gold and you're going to know this is for me.
So I literally found that box and I was like, okay.
Okay.
So it may not be over yet, but yeah, just kind of progress on that journey.
Do your heart work, let her do her heart work.
And maybe there's some more to be had with that.
So one of the things that I think going forward is, is that we, we really can't, um, obviously
nobody's perfect, but we want to be entertaining connection with people who are also doing
the work.
Yeah.
So that's really going to be important going forward.
They don't have to be perfect.
They don't have to, they can still be in process, but they have to be really intentionally doing
the work.
You know, whether it's heart work within this program or some other type of work, um,
that's Christ-based, that's biblically based, that they truly want to see, um, the restoration
of marriage and family in their own line and their own life.
We're not here to play games.
We're here to become the people that we need to be, to be able to partner.
Did you tell them about Charlie Kirk?
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Y'all.
I mean, I would have never found that out, but God wanted me to know.
Yeah.
I've seen that video.
It's a, I'll try to find it for you, David.
I've seen it.
It's an interview.
That's how I first, that's how I first heard about Jackie.
Stop.
Yeah.
That's how I heard about it.
Phoebe.
Phoebe recommended me.
That's how I got in it.
But yeah, I first heard about it through, through a Charlie Kirk interview.
I'll, I'll, I'll find it and I'll send it to you.
Oh yeah.
We've been praying that we could find it.
It'd be great to find it.
I know that my, I know that my PR team last year mentioned me going on, um, a turning
point USA podcast.
I didn't, I have to be honest with you guys.
I didn't know what that was.
So, uh, I know what it is now, but, um, yeah, I feel like obviously, you know, Charlie was,
you know, whatever you want to call it.
He was murdered.
He was assassinated.
He was martyred.
Whatever you prefer.
I don't want to get in an argument about any of those, um, any of those things.
But I do want to say that, um, regardless of what you think about that, there's definitely
some big shoes to fill, uh, as far as what they were up to and doing in the area of making
marriage great again, you know, in the minds of youth.
And so we really want to pick that mantle up and, you know, and we want to, we want
to pick it up for you guys, for Gen X, um, for, for the, for the, for the, um, baby boomers.
I, we even had someone from the greatest generation get married.
Yeah.
They're like, they would be 86 now.
They were 81 when they got married in our program.
Um, but we're all about, we're all about the lineage and legacy.
So I would say one more thing.
And that is we have got to be making some matches.
Okay.
There's way too many gorgeous, beautiful inside and outside women in this program.
And there's you guys.
And we've got to do that.
We gotta do that.
If you want, you know, if you want a seal of approval that a woman is doing the work
that she's just as beautiful on the inside as the outside, then you need to pick from
this community.
I would instantly just along the lines of what Jackie's saying in terms of somebody
else else's doing the work, really challenge you to make that your prayer right now.
Like okay, Lord, show me the one that's doing the work, you know, and make sure that you're
doing the work as well, because that's where the connection is going to be.
And just, just kind of shift your focus into instead of focusing on like, well, you know,
what does she do or what is she into?
Or what does she, you know, like where's she from all like, like all the characters, like
forget that for a moment.
Just trust the Lord is going to bring you the one that's doing the work.
There's maybe a little bit of juice on that because I feel like for like when she said
that, I felt like there was something.
So maybe just change your prayer a little bit and make that your prayer this week and,
and see what the Lord does.
See, see what comes.
I mean, like there is so much spiritual, supernatural serendipity in this movement, like things
that are just counterintuitive.
You wouldn't think they would be, but they just do all the time.
Now when I get a, I want to give a shout out to my girl, Christine, not last week as you
guys had Mike last week, but the week before David and Christine were doing integrative
attachment theory with you guys introducing that subject.
She's single.
She's one of my students.
She's been one of my students.
She's incredible.
You guys saw she's incredible.
She's beautiful.
She's obviously done the work and, um, and she's very.
feminine and very soft, kindhearted, loves Jesus.
She lives in Florida currently
and just want to give her a shout out.
Good.
Is she in YLS or no?
What?
Is she in YLS or no?
She is.
I mean, she's in our extended community.
She's one of our one-on-one coaches,
but she was a student.
Now she's a one-on-one coach.
Two Mondays ago, she did a session with us
on some integrated attachment theory.
I remember her.
Catch that session.
Yeah, catch that session.
He's amazing.
And the replays, it should be there.
All right, guys,
have a great week and be prayerful.
And we'll see you next time on Heart Check-In.
Wait, we have something else this week.
Look on your calendar.
We have a special session for co-ed.
So we'll see you there.
Bye.
All right, guys.