Hello, welcome. Good evening, everyone. Welcome, welcome. Hopefully some of y'all can join
me on screen so I can see your beautiful faces. That would be amazing. Hi there. Hi, Denise.
Welcome. All right. Well, we're going to get started. I hope to see some more of you soon.
And as always, just try your best to come on screen when you can. I know that some of you might be
working, some of you might be driving or eating or things like that, and that's totally fine.
But as a part of our heartwork process, we are going to practice coming out of hiding and allowing
ourselves to be seen. If you've never been here before, this is your first live session.
Would love for you to say, hi, this is my first live session, and put that in the chat, so we can
welcome you specifically. All my other ladies, welcome back. I'm really praying that not only,
you know, I always think it's interesting doing two sessions a day because I never know how things
are going to turn out differently, even though I have the similar content in both sessions.
And so I was just praying, like, God knows everything that you all need tonight. He knows you
better than I know you and better than you know yourself. And so I'm praying that he shows me
what the spirit needs you to hear to get breakthrough. And so just know that I'm praying about that
all the time for you all. And even in those still moments, those quick moments, God is hearing us
and he's responding. And so I just want to remind you of that tonight as we're starting out,
that God hears us when we're praying. And I want to encourage you also, I did not put this
Annette in our housekeeping, I forgot. And so I wanted to touch on this real quick, and then I'm going to
But I want to encourage you all to check out the Supernatural Saturday from this Saturday.
As always, we're going to always remind you to listen to those. But specifically, you all,
some of what we're talking about tonight is going to tie in to what you were hearing on Saturday.
But in a way that Jackie addressed it so many times when we are basically called higher
into an upgrade. So one of the things she released was a season we are entering.
We're already in a season of first. And what she said is how many of you, when I said that,
believe that the first, we're all going to be bad, bad things come in. And so, so many times
we don't realize subconsciously we are believing and have fearful thoughts that are hindering us
from moving forward in our lives, including in your love stories. You all, I live this out.
I know it. I know it so, so well. There were things that I was doing and stepping into
and partnering with without even realizing it. And it was affecting how I was showing up,
not only in romantic relationships, but also in work relationships, you know, with friends,
all different dynamics. Okay, so definitely check that out. God has a season of first for us
in this next season. Don't miss out on what God wants to do in your life in this time.
And then also we did Prophetic Ministry Night. If you did not know, if you're new to this community,
that is something that we do once a month. The last Sunday of every month is typically
when we try to do it, unless we have like, we had that big five-year anniversary a couple months ago
and they still did Prophetic Night that night, praise the Lord. But we just had a different team
holding down the fort that night. And I know a lot of people were blessed, but that is a time
where we come together, our team that we have specifically prepared for that evening to do our best
to hear from heaven, what God is saying over our movement, what God is saying to us and for all of you.
And so I hope that that blesses you. There's a couple things tonight, if I remember how kind of it
weaved into our message today, I will do my best to tie that in. But there was a couple things
specifically that I believe God has for you that will help this bring Saturday, Sunday night,
and tonight all together. So the reason I'm saying this is I would love for you all,
in addition to your heart work this week, to take time, to make time in your schedule to listen to those.
I really, really believe it's going to bless you and help you take a step forward.
Okay, Annette, I'm going to pass it over to you and then Annette's going to praise in
and then we'll jump right into the content for this evening.
Awesome. Thank you, Bethany. Hello, ladies. Welcome. We're so glad that you're here.
I'm glad I can join you. Yes, I still have my post Christmas tree shopping with my son and his family on.
I'm trying to warm up. It was cold, but it was fun. And actually it was a first.
It was the first time that they have invited me to go with them and their family to do that.
So it was a blessing and a privilege. So I was happy to be able to do that.
Want to encourage all of you, as Bethany was saying, I know sometimes it's hard and you want to just listen in.
you're able to turn on your cameras.
We love to see your faces and your smiles and the just like the head nods and the, you
know, yeah, I understand what you're saying or I'm right there.
That really can encourage people and not just tonight when we do the lives or during the
afternoon lives, but also when you're on Supernatural Saturday or the prophetic nights or even prayer
in the morning.
I don't know how many of you are able to join that, but that's a wonderful way to start
your day and give yourself a good foundation.
So just show up and show out for us.
It will help you get comfortable just stepping into all God has for you.
And the second thing that we were going to talk about is just our heart posture as we
go through heart work and our heart healing journey.
The posture of our heart is everything.
Really ask the Lord and lean in and ask him to help you to be teachable, to lay down pride,
to lay down stubbornness, unforgiveness, anything that could be holding you back from all that
he wants to do in your heart.
And you just want to show up and be teachable, be humble, be attentive to the spirit and
know that he's going to show up for you in ways that you won't even expect.
So with all of that said, we're going to go ahead and pray and then we will get started
on another great evening.
Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so much for the privilege that we have to gather together
tonight.
And this is a divine appointment, God, that has been ordered by you.
We ask Holy Spirit to come to speak in us, to speak through us, and to just help us to
place our hearts in a posture before you that is open, that is receptive, that is humble,
and that is inviting of all that you want to teach us and show us, that we would allow
our hearts to be transformed, to walk fully into the plans and the purposes that you have
for us as we move through this journey.
And especially for each one on tonight, God, I pray a special blessing over each one of
them, over the ladies that join the live, bless their time as they listen.
And may your words penetrate down into the core and may they feel your love and your
comfort.
Speak through Bethany tonight and use her words.
Thank you for her willingness to minister and to serve and in the powerful ways that
you use her.
In your name I pray, amen.
Amen.
Thank you so much, Annette.
Again, welcome.
If you're just joining us or joined in the last few minutes, we're so glad to have you
here with us.
If this is your first live session, definitely put that in the chat for us so we can welcome
you.
I'm going to go ahead and get you all started pretty quick here tonight, including you,
what I mean by is what I mean.
And so I want you to put something in the chat for me.
And for those of you that watch the replay of this, I really want to encourage you to
create a post on this in the group this week so that we can talk you through this as well.
And so here's what the activation is.
I want you to answer this question.
What is a fear or anxious thought that you have had in the last few days?
What does that sound like for you?
And I'll start to read those as some of them come up into the chat.
If they start to go real quick, it's hard for me to keep up, but being rejected and
Okay.
Rebecca, in particular, tell me what that's about.
What is that connected to?
Thank you for sharing that.
Anyone else?
Ageism is my line of work as a nurse.
My dad's recent diagnosis of cancer ending his life and how to manage helping from five
hours away.
So sorry to hear about that, Angie.
That I will not have rent money in a couple of months, too much going on to be able to
focus on LYS like the Lord is leading, financial stability, fear of not meeting my goals due
to feeling overwhelmed with work, fear of marital delay, not getting paid, family stress,
having to see my parents at Christmas.
Yep.
Having pain and worried I may be having a pancreas flare up again.
Okay.
We'll be praying for healing there.
Do I have the ability to take a wise decision?
Maybe I think you meant make, maybe make a wise decision about marriage for myself for
a lifetime.
how to navigate finances when I am between employment
and have a major unexpected expenses
and have had major unexpected expenses.
Okay, thank you for sharing those ladies.
You can continue to put those in the chat for me.
And I want you just to continue to allow them
as they come up, as I'm starting to share.
The reason we're doing this is tonight,
we're gonna be talking about overcoming fear and anxiety.
Y'all, we tend to battle fear and anxiety
on a regular basis every single day,
but it's at an all time high during the holidays.
And even well into the beginning of the new year,
because there's this level of expectation.
I've even had conversations with a friend of mine
who has gone through the hard work, been in the community
around the topic of when the new year starts,
you think it's gonna be amazing.
And especially, we hear just like what Jackie is saying,
sometimes we hear this thing of, it's a season of first
and you think most of us would be excited,
but some of us on the inside feel that pit drop, right?
Where there's something going on in our subconscious,
there's something that we're hearing an internal dialogue
that is informing us and leading us
in a different direction.
I want you to be thinking tonight around the holidays,
instead of partnering with fear and anxiety,
I hope tonight will not only help you
in your long term heart healing,
but that it will help prepare you
to face the holidays differently this year.
I gave the afternoon group this challenge,
I don't even know if I'll remember it exactly
the way I released it this afternoon,
but I want you all to be thinking about,
instead of fear and panic regarding this upcoming holiday,
whether you're gonna be by yourself or with friends,
with family, whatever that looks like for you,
that you will partner with,
this is gonna be one of the best holidays I've ever had.
This is gonna be one of the best holidays I've ever had.
Well, why?
How can that be if you're not with your spirit mate yet?
You might ask.
Well, because if you're learning how to actually enjoy
getting to know yourself and loving yourself,
do you know that you're gonna be with the best person
you could ever be with this holiday?
And I'm not just trying to say
you shouldn't want a spirit mate,
that's not what I'm saying.
But I'm saying one of the things God taught me
was really how to enjoy my own presence.
How to actually like myself.
Some of you are actually afraid
of being alone with yourself.
You don't really know how to exist without a relationship.
Raise your hand if you can relate to what I just said.
Is there anyone here willing to admit
that you really struggle to actually be alone?
Anyone else?
I see a couple ladies admitting.
And that's causing you to get tripped up
and you're picking people out of trying to fill the void
of struggling to be by yourself.
Now, some of you are on the flip side of that
and you're like, I've been by myself for so long,
I've not even dated, I've not had a relationship
and I get it, I get it, I do.
And so I know there's both things going on.
And fear is driving both of them.
You all, I need you to see that.
I need you to see that connection tonight.
The fear is driving both sides of that comment.
We feel afraid that that end is never going to happen.
We're never gonna end up in that spirit-made relationship.
And on the flip side, we fear being alone
because we think we're not enough by ourselves.
And again, that doesn't mean
you shouldn't want a relationship.
I know God led you here because he has that for you.
But we need to heal and really come to a place
where we do not fear our own personality,
our own existence, who we are,
our own dreams, our own desires.
Now, obviously those will start to merge
with your spirit-mate when you meet them.
It doesn't mean you lose everything that you are,
but you start to form new dreams together.
While you still both individually,
hopefully keep pursuing your dreams as individuals.
So I want you to be thinking about this.
Literally, as I'm talking about overcoming fear and anxiety,
some of you all need to get to know who you are
before you enter another relationship.
What do I mean by that?
I mean, what do you like to do?
What makes you happy?
What awakens you and causes you to feel alive and excited?
And if nothing causes that,
I'm gonna say that's a revealing for healing right there.
There's a difference between going through the motions
and just, you know, even some.
of us doing ministry or doing life and where some of y'all have jobs where you're helping
people non-stop. There's a difference between doing that and actually feeling alive and
excited about what we're doing and connected and engaged and not disengaged and disenfranchised
about men or relationships or ourselves. So as you're facing this holiday, you know, what's
looking forward to? For those of you that right now you're like, I don't know because I'm going
to be by myself. This is what I said to the afternoon group. I want to encourage you to
choose to find someone else that is by themselves or maybe going to be by themselves this Christmas
and invite them to come and do something with you. Even if it's for an hour or two hours,
y'all, the reality is none of us have to do anything alone ever. But some of you are like
are literally choosing that. This is what the Lord showed me this afternoon. Some of us choose
isolation out of fear. And some of you are like, yeah, I don't choose that at all. I want to be
with people and nobody invites me over. And so this is what I said to the ladies this afternoon
as well. I want to encourage you if you know someone that has a big family gathering and
they're the kind of people that they just love people and they love, you know, having people
together. Ladies, kindly in a nice way, ask that friend, do you have room for one more this holiday?
I know that we want everybody to pay attention to us as singles and we want them to know that
we're by ourselves. Y'all, I wanted that too. I did. But I, you know what, God started talking to me about
not being mad at everybody because they didn't acknowledge the pain that I was feeling being
single. And just starting to celebrate and choosing to say, hey, like, man, I would love to do
something with you for the holidays, whether it was on Christmas Day or not, you all. So I want to
get into the place of like, hey, this is what they should be doing for me.
And get into the place of like, God, help me to become the one that makes the difference.
I believe every single one of you are a change agent.
So part of coming out of fear and overcoming anxiety is stepping into faith. It's stepping
into love. It's stepping into the positive aspects of who do you want to become? What kind of life
do you want to live? So on that note, our hearts are highly impressionable. Everything that we hear,
everything that we're listening to during this time, it is making an impression on your heart.
So some of that, you all get this, the things that you're thinking and the things that are
replaying over and over and over in your minds, that is impressing on your heart as well.
I go through it too. I can't tell you how many times the enemy is assaulting our minds day in
and day out, trying to see, can I get in here? Can I get in here? Will they, will they trip up here
again? Because I've got them in this area before. Let's just see if I can lay the bait a little bit
differently and they'll, they'll fall for it this time. Some of you all really need to be careful
about the shows and the movies that you're watching right now. If you are feeling deep,
loneliness and pain, I would not recommend watching a bunch of love movies. You all,
I know they're great. I actually love Hallmark movies. That's a tradition.
My husband said not to tell anyone, but I'm going to tell two years ago when we went to visit family
in Kentucky and Indiana, we started watching the Hallmark movies together. And you know,
who asked to do it this year? He did y'all. He did. Okay. But I like it too, but here's the thing.
One of the things I learned in my journey, along the way, some of this very early in my
relationship with the Lord and some of this way later, is that when I am sad, I shouldn't watch
or do things that are going to make me feel more sad. So one I learned early on, I learned this
early on. Thank the Lord for this. In my relationship with the Lord,
I could not drink alcohol if I was sad, just couldn't do it. And y'all I was coming out of
a lot of things at that time that was a part of the life I grew up in. And so I had to learn that
that wasn't a part of what God had for me, but I had to start to understand that it also the
physicalness of it, like how it impacted my emotions and how it impacted the way I was
thinking. The same thing.
regarding movies and music. I'm a big feeler, so everything that I watch, everything that I see,
I feel stuff. I can watch a literal commercial that's 30 seconds long, and if it's a moving
commercial, you better believe your girl over here, I'm going to be shedding some tears.
I can't help it. I cannot help it. I try not to. And so Brian and I have a running joke like,
you're not crying, I'm crying, you know, cause sometimes I'll look over and he's, he's,
he's got it too. But I want you to be thinking about this. I know I'm kind of, I'm trying to
make light a little bit too, because this is a heavy topic. Cause a lot of you all are already
feeling this stuff. And I'm not saying you can't watch some of it, but like if it's going to make,
if it's going to feed and fuel the sadness and the lies that you might be struggling with right now,
that's going to fuel your fear. That's what I want you to understand.
Fear is false evidence appearing real. So even when you're watching some of these movies,
I want you to start paying attention to, or shows or anything, or hearing other people talk.
Y'all, I saw a woman that I went to high school with today. She's pregnant now. Do you want to,
you want to guess for a second what the first thought I had was? It was a lie from the enemy.
How that's never going to happen for me. You have to understand how this stuff comes in. Now,
does that mean I can never go on social media? No, that's not what I'm saying. But you know what
I did think I might need to not unfriend her. It's not her fault, but I might need to minimize
how much I'm on social media right now in this season. Do you see how that works?
When we are believing for something and the enemy is assaulting that thing, constantly telling us
it's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. It's not going to, well, we need to
partner with faith and protect, protect it all, protect the mind, protect the heart.
And so I want you to be thinking about Proverbs 4.23. This is what it says.
Keep your heart with all vigilance for from it flows the springs of life.
Jackie talks a lot about how we have passwords on everything.
Our phones, our homes, we have all these locks. We have three locks on our door here in our home.
My husband locks. I'm telling on my husband a lot already tonight. He locks all three
multiple times a day. And I'm like, why are we locking us down like Fort Knox?
Y'all, but this is real. Three locks on this door. It's a very quiet area. Praise the Lord. We're
not even a lock or anything closed to protect our heart. We're just letting everything in.
We're letting every thought start to come down and trickle down into our heart and we're meditating
on it. I want you to be thinking about what literally have you been meditating on in the
last few days? Have they been thoughts fueled by faith and love? Things that are true, noble,
lovely enough, good report things that are above only and not beneath like the Bible talks about,
or are they filled with things that are below? The things that are saying you can't have this.
You're not good enough. You're not. It's never going to work out for you.
You're never going to find somebody that is what you need, whatever. Again, whatever it is,
you have to get to the source. What's the source of the lie that you're believing?
Because it's not just the lies that we're hearing. It's the root of it.
And the root goes down to fear. The root goes down to trauma. And the root goes down to something
that we experienced at some point that is now informing us today saying, Hey, yep. See back
then it didn't happen for you. I had a lady this afternoon. She went through three different
massive things. You all that literally the lie that she was hearing. I got to look at it.
I wrote it down. She said, fear of nothing's ever going to work out. I put all this work in
and nothing ever works out for me. And the other one is she's a big, has always been a big rule
follower. And she said that the thing that she keeps hearing is that she's always going to get
the short end of the stick or that she did, even when she followed the rules, she always got the
stick instead of being blessed. That's the way she's been interpreting that. Now, one of the
things I talked to her about is that it's not that those things didn't happen. They did, but it's the
way that she's perceived them. That is the root of the problem. She's not the problem. It's not her
fault. I need you to understand this. It's not our fault that we fear some of this stuff. We've been
through some really hard things. And for some of you, you've been praying for a really long time.
We touched on this. Shall we write it up?
The Israelites waited 400 years for deliverance you all
Can you imagine I can't I
Think even of Joseph all the time like what was it like for him in prison?
Like he knew his destiny. He knew what God showed him
Can you imagine sitting in prison knowing that I?
Think that would be really hard
I try to think of people like that when I'm going through things that I need to overcome
and
Think about man
They must have had to really you know focus their heart in their mind on truth to get through that and have a positive
attitude and
He came out on the other side Joseph comes out of that
He gets raised up and then he's what he's used to bless all of those people
Do do do some of you ever think about the fact that your story that God is writing with your spirit mate is
Going to be used to change
Like many people alive it's going to impact them and heal them
Or dare you not ever let yourself think of that
Because what if you actually dream and think about that thing and
It doesn't happen in the time frame that you have been expecting it in
Vigilance with our heart guarding our heart with it with vigilance you all that means we're alertly watchful to avoid danger
That means we're always paying attention
Sometimes the enemy will come and try to assault us when we sleep. I talked about this a little bit last week
I'm gonna touch on it again because I got more revelation on the dream that I had
I'm not gonna go into dream interpretations tonight
You also I'm just letting you know that but I feel led to share this with the group because I started this conversation last week
I'm not gonna go into the whole dream
You guys can go back and watch the replay to catch that part just for time's sake
But literally I got additional revelation on why the enemy told me in the dream that I was gonna have cancer in my throat
and lungs and
This is it
That the enemy is actually attacking my
Influence
Because I need my lungs in my throat to coach to speak to pray to declare a thing
To prophesy I need I need that
But not only that
He attacked me right after I was using my influence as a mothering
Spirit and person in my spiritual daughter's life
He also assaulted my best friend who was also using her motherly anointing. She's an amazing mother
to also influence my spiritual daughter and
The next morning we were both assaulted and the enemy was telling us both that we were terminally sick just with different things
and
Then Jackie also said as because I felt led to share this dream with her like hey
I've been continuing to pray about it all week since I I was in coaching with y'all last week and the Lord kept whispering
Whispering to me talked asked Jackie about this one
I don't ask her about all my dreams
but I felt led to ask her about this one and she said not only do I believe is God showing you that this
Happened because you were trying to influence her but she
represents the next generation
No, I was like, whoa, like that is that was the missing piece that I was looking for you all
And it made so much sense to me when she said that why am I telling you that?
well, because the enemy has really had a hard time getting my mind when I'm awake and
So the Lord is talking to me a lot through dreams. Well now the enemy is trying to assault me in my dream state
So for those of you that have ever had that happen I've had a few people asking about that in the group
That's why I wanted to bring it up
I want you to know that not every dream that you have is from the Lord and
I want you to know the one of the first things that God said to me when I woke up out of that dream afraid
Because I woke up it startled me awake the woman's voice was so evil and so
angry at me
It woke me up
And so I prayed I laid there for a while like
Do I have cancer like I just started talking to God?
I fell back asleep woke up to have like I literally this was like going on for like an hour
and
I finally asked the Lord. Are you trying to warn me that I have cancer?
or is this from the enemy and
As I told you all last week if you didn't hear this part what he said to me was this. I
Don't speak to you that way
That was what he said to me and I've been thinking about this all week how what an amazing
thing for a father to say to me. My father in heaven said to me,
I don't speak to you that way. So I want you to be thinking
about this. I feel the Holy Spirit. This is why I trust what
God is telling me. I almost thought I wasn't gonna bring the
dream up again tonight. And then I felt it. I felt it come up
again. Some of you need to understand that your father's
voice is not speaking to you with an evil, deep, dark tone.
When you are hearing things in the daytime, as well as in your
dreams, that is not the father's voice. And I know some people
today, even one of the ladies got coaching, sometimes we're
struggling with, I don't know if I'm hearing God's voice. And
I'm here to tell you that God will not speak to you in an
mean, demeaning way ever. He is not guilt. He is not shame. He
is not condemnation. He will never use those tactics. Yes,
God has warned me before, but he's never spoken to me in an
evil or harsh, mean voice ever. And so as I've gotten to know
the voice of my father better and better and better, as soon
as he said that to me, I was like, you're right. You don't
talk to me that way. Even when you've warned me, you have never
spoken to me that way. That was literally a conversation I was
having with the Lord. And so tonight, the things that you all
have been fearing, whose voice has been informing you? Whose
voice is informing these thoughts that you're having?
Remember, I just said, fear is false evidence appearing real.
Anxiety is fueled by fear and what if thoughts. So, you know,
if you're sitting there, what if this, what if that, what if this
happens? What if this never happens? Y'all, that's, that's
literally the enemy trying to feed you with anxious, anxious,
anxious thoughts. Trauma that happened to us isn't what stops
us from living the amazing life that God has for us. It's the
lies we believe as a result of the trauma. Fears and anxiety
then feed off the lies. It's just like this whole cesspool.
They just kind of hang out together. Fear, anxiety, lies,
fear, anxiety, lies, kind of batting off of each other if we
let it. The problem areas, the things, the places that were
stuck the most, those are the signal areas like, hey, there
needs to be a revealing for healing here. God doesn't want
us to stay stuck. Y'all, I mean, literally, let's just pause and
think about this. Do you think God actually wants us to be
stuck? Do you think God actually doesn't want us to have his
blessings in our life? I mean, why do we believe that he is
withholding from us? That means he's not good. If your parents
or someone in your life that was supposed to love you withheld
from you, that's why you believe God withholds from you. I wasn't
planning on talking about this and we'll weave back to the fear
and anxiety, but I felt led to say that. So where is it that
you're partnering with these things that do not align with a
good father? Where did that start for you? It's time to get
to the core. Remember, we're not digging. We're not getting out
our shovels. We're not trying to figure it out on our own. We're
asking the Lord to reveal things for healing so that we can be
set free, so that we can have dots connected, so that we can
be literally, you know, that step by step by step from glory
to glory to glory that the Bible talks about. There's a
part in the Heartwork book, I'm going to read it real quick to
you. This is what it talks about. The biggest lie that you
may believe in life is that your life is normal. Many people that
live broken lives believe that it's reasonable to live that
way. They have inherited that emotional debt or trauma from
their family and they think it's normal to be overweight. They
think it's normal to be unhappy, to be unfaithful, to be in a
relationship where someone just mistreats you or to be sick all
the time or to be okay, this is not in the book. I'm adding this
one. Y'all, it's not normal to be in a relationship where
someone wants us to compromise our values. Okay, I'm going to
keep going. They think it's okay to have massive amounts of debt
and spend all their energy trying to figure out how to pay
the bills, or even more severe deception like it's normal to
abuse and be hurt, or excuse me, abuse and hurt other people or
yourself. Some of you, I want you to really be thinking even
about how you think about yourself. How do you think about
other people?
Jackie goes on, I knew someone like that.
They thought it was normal to be molested by family members
because it's all they had ever known.
When they were confronted by an outsider about the abuse,
they said, that happens in everyone's family, doesn't it?
She goes on, no, it does not.
Maybe you have been confronted by people in your life,
friends, coworkers, or even family
that are trying to get you to see how dysfunctional
an area of your life has become.
I have done this for people over the years.
Some people call it an intervention.
It's a reality check when someone is so deep in a lie
that their behavior has become dangerous
to others or themselves.
The desired outcome is that the person will wake up
and see what they are doing and ask for help.
The acronym for fear is false evidence appearing real.
Oh, thanks, Tiffany.
So I want you to even be thinking about,
you know, where have you maybe been believing the lie
that what you've been experiencing is normal?
You know, it's not God's will for us
to constantly live paycheck to paycheck, you all.
I know that in the Christian circles,
I've been around long enough in these circles to know
that there are a lot of people that, you know,
a pastor or a preacher to have any money,
and that you're just more holy if you suffer.
That's not true.
I'm not saying that God wants us to always, you know,
like just keep everything for ourselves.
No, he blesses us so we can bless other people.
The kingdom, if you read the Bible,
it says in the end times that the wealthiest money
will be transferred to the believers.
Unbelievers who are wealthy, that's the way I should say it.
If you look, that's what it says.
So maybe yours is something else.
What is it that you've been living into
that is not God's best for you?
When you're going through some of these fearful thoughts,
these anxiety kind of informed thoughts,
I want you to pause and start doing two things.
Number one, ask God, what are the facts?
What are the facts?
And for some of you,
you might not be able to discern
what the facts are for yourself.
You might need help.
And one of the ways you can discern what the facts are
is come into the community.
Do a post in the group.
Let yourself be known by people in this community.
Let us help you discern what the facts are
about that situation, about that thought.
Number two, ask God, what is true?
Not only what are the facts, God,
but what is the truth from your perspective
about this situation?
We can overcome fears the more we heal
and the more we become rooted in God's love
and faithfulness to us.
Are you someone who's always waiting
for the other shoe to drop?
Do you tend to think of the worst case scenario
instead of the best case scenario,
which is what Jackie was talking about?
We hear these things or have these things happen.
We get a promotion, but yet we're in trepidation
that something bad's gonna follow right behind it.
Maybe you hear a siren
and think something happened to someone you love.
I was telling the ladies this afternoon this as well.
I mean, I used to be like this when I was younger,
but part of it was informed
because my family literally
had been in multiple car accidents,
especially like a really severe one
where my family, my mom, my oldest brother and sister
were hit by a drunk driver.
It was really, really bad.
Thankfully, they all survived, but you all,
my brother was in a coma for a really long time
and then had to go and learn how to walk and talk
and do all the things over again.
My sister had to have brain surgery,
was never the same again fully after that, tragic.
So yeah, when I heard sirens or even now
when I go to hospitals,
I have to really kind of breathe through it
because I've been in so many hospitals
because my family has had so many things happen.
So yeah, sometimes when I would hear sirens, I would fear,
especially when I had broken up
with my spiritual daughter's dad
and they weren't with me all the time
because they weren't mine
and their dad was doing really not good things
and their mom was driving around drunk
with them half the time.
So yeah, like constantly I was afraid
that every time I'd hear a siren.
So I had to really fight against that
and war against that coming in my mind
and being afraid all the time.
So for some of you, maybe it's not that extreme,
but you're feeling that every time something happens,
you think the worst.
I want you to pay attention to those kinds of thoughts.
Track your thoughts and see where they're leading you.
Maybe are you someone who,
like when someone doesn't respond to your text message
in the timeframe that you think they should,
you automatically think negative things.
I'm going to give you a couple of examples.
Maybe yours is different.
Again, this is just to get you thinking.
They're mad at me.
They don't care about me.
They don't like me.
He must be talking to someone else.
I'm not pretty enough.
I'm not good enough.
Whatever, fill in the blank, why they're not texting you back.
Y'all, I want you to just breathe, OK?
I want you to start practicing this even now
during the heart work.
Give your friends some slack.
If they don't get back to you right away,
don't believe the worst.
Guess what?
People have jobs, and they have meetings
that they have to go to at their jobs.
And sometimes, you know, like I have a friend.
She has five kids.
She's one of my closest friends.
And she said some of her other friends
try to always make her feel guilty
if she doesn't get back to them in a certain amount of time.
I'm like, what?
No.
So I practice this with my friends a lot.
If they apologize, I'm so sorry I didn't respond.
Why are you apologizing to me about that?
I know you love me.
I love you.
I know that you'll get back to me when you can.
If it's urgent, and these are people
I talk to all the time, y'all, I don't expect my friends
to text me every single day.
And if that is something you struggle with,
I really want to encourage you to ask the Lord,
where is that coming from?
Because it's not healthy.
How is this connecting to fear?
Well, it's absolutely connected to fear and anxiety.
When you all start to step into dating again,
some of you all are gonna battle anxious attachment,
and you're gonna really struggle
if that person doesn't text you back
within a certain time frame,
and if they don't say a certain thing,
and if they don't say it a certain way,
and all this kind of stuff.
So if you practice it now,
allow God to heal your heart from this stuff now,
you might struggle with it less later on.
And some of you are the opposite.
You're like, I don't care if I ever hear from my friend
for a really long time,
because you're avoidant.
You struggle with avoidant tendencies.
I know, I see some of y'all laughing,
because you know, you're like, I'm good.
I have this young lady, I was trying to disciple her,
and she literally said to me,
I don't care if I ever spend time with anybody, ever.
That's what she said to me.
I was like, what?
That is such a foreign concept to me.
That is not me at all.
Now you all, I like time with people,
but I like my time by myself.
I like to recharge and not have anybody
for a little bit of time.
But when she said that, I was like, really?
How can that be?
Because God created you for connection.
Some of you, your fear is connection.
You're actually afraid of connection.
And so I wanna encourage you to pray about that
and ask the Lord, when was the first time
you became afraid of connecting
and allowing yourself to actually be known and loved
so that you can start to heal in those areas
and come out of that place?
Because God always created you for family.
God always created you for connection.
He did not create you to live in isolation.
Yes, God enabled some of his disciples
and people to live in isolation,
but that isn't what he created them for.
Yeah, Cleo, I get it.
Afraid to be hurt again, yeah.
But love is always a risk, you all,
but it's also an amazing, amazing gift, amazing gift.
All right, I'm gonna keep going.
1 John 4, 18, and the Amplified Version says this.
There is no fear in love.
Dread does not exist,
but perfect, complete, full-grown love drives out fear
because fear involves the expectation of divine punishment.
So the one who is afraid of God's judgment
is not perfected in love,
which means has not grown
into a sufficient understanding of God's love.
Y'all, I had read this scripture
over and over and over for years
and quoted it and declared it,
and I'm so glad I did,
but when I read it in the Amplified Version,
man, it convicted me.
And this is what convicted me.
Perfect, which means full-grown, complete love,
drives out fear.
And then at the end of that scripture, it says,
the one who is afraid is not perfected in love,
which means has not grown
into a sufficient understanding of God's love.
That's what it means.
So what God was saying to me is when you are afraid
and you partner with fear,
you actually don't understand.
and my love for you. Not fully. I think I know why some of the
disciples were able to do what they did. Even to the point of
death. They knew love himself. Y'all they walked with Jesus,
they still struggled all the time. And they walked with him.
Do you think God doesn't understand that it's hard for us
sometimes? But he is saying, Hey, when you're not walking in
love, you're not walking in the full understanding of the
understanding of who I am, like who God is, God is love. It says
that he is absolutely love. And so you know what, we might need
to pause and just say, Hey, this week, Lord, I'm so sorry, I was
I was partnering with fear in this area. Like, can you show me
like your love more in this place? John 316 says for God so
loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whoever
believes in him should not perish but have ever lasting
life. Hebrews 12 one says therefore, since we are
surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off
everything that hinders in the sin that so easily entangles and
let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us. I'm
going to ask her to share what God has put on her heart for
tonight. And then we're going to get ready for breakout session
right after that, ladies.
Thank you, Bethany. As I was considering what I wanted to
share tonight, there were a couple different things, as I
prayed that came to mind. And one fear in particular that I
had, that I often spoke of when I was in heartwork and in the
process is my son and daughter in law got married when I was in
the program. And when they started talking about having
kids, I started joking about it at first. But I literally said,
Hey, you need to wait to have kids until I get married. Because
I would say, who wants to date a grandma? I mean, if you say
grandma and her boyfriend, it sounds like I should be walking
around in like leopard skin leggings and a pink boa, you
know, throwing it over my shoulder talking about my
boyfriend. And I actually I did, I worried about that. And God
really showed me that I was moving in fear and labeling
myself when children and grandchildren are a gift from
the Lord. And so why would that prevent someone from wanting
to date and or marry me? And incidentally, as worried as I
was, and then able to release that fear, God really did show
up in ways that I didn't give him credit for. Or that he could
that that I believe that he could show up because when
Arthur met my grandson, all of a sudden, we'd come through the
door, and I was pushed to the side, and he wanted to see Papa
Arthur, and he'd raise his hands for Papa Arthur. And Arthur
adores him, and they have such a good relationship. And so that
was something that I did really struggle with for a while, but
God delivered me from and then showed me how he planned it for
blessing, where I was afraid it was going to be something that I
couldn't be blessed by, it actually was something that
turned out better than I even could have imagined. And the
second thing that I'll say, which also involves Arthur and
being married, because ladies, when you get married, like hurt
in relationship, healed in relationship, and here we go,
because God continues to work on you through your heartwork and
right on into marriage, but Arthur's green card, we have the
interview date after 18 months of waiting. And I can see the
end in sight. And what I've realized has happened. And I
really just came to this, this morning, but I've been kind of
grumpy, and really on him, like, did you do this? Did you do
this? Have you done this? Because while we were waiting,
we were faithful to pray faithful to pray, God showed up
this interview is four months sooner than what they told us it
would be. That's an answer to prayer. God has sustained us God
has provided for us.
Through all of this and now that we have the end in sight
It's like I want it so bad. I'm Arthur. Did you do this? Did you do this? Did you make sure you did this?
Why don't you have this done yet?
So I've kind of like you know, get it done get it done get it done
Because I don't want anything to hold it back. I don't want anything to keep it from happening. And I
realized this morning a friend was praying with me and
She was she pointed out that God brought us to this place
God orchestrated it to come to pass four months sooner than they anticipated
but because I slipped into fear and anxiety about it because I want to grab on to it and I want to hold it because
I don't want anything to delay it anymore
rather than trusting God to continue to do what he's already been doing and
Blessing us and providing for us. I want to take it over and do it myself because I'm afraid and so this morning
I was able to
to recognize that God showed me that and I laid it down and
Repented of my heart posture of I need to take care like I'll take it from here God
thanks for getting us here, but but I'll get us the rest of the way and
And
Really to come into agreement with how much he loves us and that none of this has caught him unaware
He's been orchestrating the situation from the beginning and I need to just continue to rest in the peace that only he can bring
so those are my two big shares for
for the week and
I hope they encourage you and bless you that God is for you and loves you immensely
Thanks, go ahead Bethany, that was so great you all two things
I heard as she was talking and then I'm gonna get your breakout groups ready
Relinquish control was the first one
We have to really practice
relinquishing control
Okay, so sometimes the container is gonna look a lot different than what we expected
How it shows up when it shows up what we have to go through to get it all the things you all
Before we got married
We found out Brian's passport was being like withheld first because of something that was a total misunderstanding
But literally we had our whole honeymoon planned and we did not know if he was gonna be able to go until literally the day
Before we got married. He had to drive all the way to Chicago
To get hit like his passport approved and that only happened because we just so happened in the church
We were in in Indiana
Somebody that went there had a brother that was in the government that made a call for us
Y'all God did that
God orchestrated all of that
But y'all better believe I was a little panicked
We had spent a lot of money on that honeymoon and I didn't want to miss our honeymoon
There was all kinds of things. I was having fears and battling but when we relinquish control and
Trying to figure everything out and make sure everything like just breathe
This is what I'm trying to keep say breathe. Just breathe. Breathe breathe when the overwhelm tries to set in
pause and ask the Lord what's really causing the overwhelm and
Oftentimes you're gonna feel you're gonna find that it's connecting back to fear
Or anxious thinking the other thing
Totally left my brain. And so if I remember it, I'll share it when y'all come back
That's what happens sometimes all right, so here's your breakout question for tonight
What fear are you gonna ask God to help you with tonight? What fear are you gonna say or anxious thoughts?
Are you gonna say? Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna let this go God. I need your help with this
And that whole relinquishing control, you know, it's not taking the wheel back when it looks like he doesn't oh
I know what it was y'all definitely when you listen to the prophetic ministry night now when you listen I
Did reference right in the beginning the man that was rowing the boat and God was showing me that that was a
referencing our own human effort and
There was a bigger boat and God said if that was the love boat
We were ministering to all like most of our singles last night and and all of that
And so I loved that connection
But I want I want to also say this even I think that big boat can represent anything that seems like an obstacle for us
and
God wants us to step out of our human effort. So what fear or anxious thoughts?
Are you asking God to help you with tonight? Let me get these rooms ready
All right, you have six minutes go ahead and jump in those as quick as you can
And I will
spray as soon as I get everyone situated.
Y'all know I try to do both at one time and sometimes it goes
really well and other times it just doesn't.
So let me just try to focus and get them situated here.
Okay, Lord.
We just thank you so much.
I think that was a pretty easy night getting everyone situated.
God, I pray for every conversation that's happening right now.
Even those that are here in the main room.
Those are going to watch the replay.
God, I thank you for revealings for healing that will continue
to happen where transformation is going to come into contact
with impartations when I'm hearing the Spirit.
So I don't even fully I have to look up what that all even
means, but that's just what I heard my spirit.
So I'll speak it out.
So Father, we just thank you for coming in and removing every
obstacle every barrier it even right now what's coming up
into my mind again.
You guys will have to listen to the full replay from last
night. But as I'm thinking about I literally was in my mind's
eye praying Lord what what to pray about the fear and I
just saw the word again last night from the cobwebs like
God said he was going to come in and just remove all the
cobwebs from the minds.
And so I just want to speak that out again tonight God.
We thank you for renewing us and transforming us by the
renewing of our minds God that all old things have passed
away and behold everything has become new and you got to
thank you that you're rewriting our stories that you're
helping us to be transformed from the inside out God that
yes, I just saw the Lord placing like a new heart inside
of us.
So Lord, I just thank you for that truth.
I believe that's a prophetic revelation of what you're doing
tonight.
God that you are coming and placing new hearts on the inside
of us God and that it's fleshly it's it's beating it's pumping
and and a fleshly heart is a soft heart.
It's a symbol of there's no hardness that's resisting the
plan of God in our lives.
And so where we just thank you for continuing to work in
every area where we've had lack in the past God where we
felt this constant struggle and tension God.
I thank you that you're removing barriers that you're
transforming our mindsets that you're helping us to hear what
your spirit is saying more and more clearly each and every
day Shantella.
Do you need me to put you into I see a W so I'm thinking
you can't hear or share.
So I'm going to put you in that room where the others thank
you.
I got there.
You got like thank you.
Yeah, you're welcome.
All right.
So what we just thank you for even just things getting
reconnected God.
We thank you for being the amazing dot connector that you
are Lord that you're just literally revealing in each moment
the things that we need to hear just like I just saw a bunch
of thought bubbles starting to come to people's minds Lord
where there's been things that have caused delay denial setback
Lord.
I thank you that you're just you're bringing revelation.
You're bringing truth.
You're bringing aha moments.
You're helping people have these transformative moments and
revelation that they're hearing from your voice Lord 2nd
Corinthians 1 3 through 4 says this all praise to the Lord.
Excuse me all praise to the God and father of our master
Jesus the Messiah father of all mercy God of all healing
counsel.
He comes alongside of us when we go through hard times and
before you know it he brings us alongside someone else who
is going through hard times so that we can be there for that
person just as God was there for us.
Isn't it amazing that right now some of the things that you
all are healing from the transformation that's happening in
your heart and life one day you're going to be able to come
alongside of someone else just like we are and you're going
to be able to love them and cheer them on and speak truth
to them and help them to hear God's blessings and hope for
them Isaiah 53 Isaiah 53 verses 4 through 6 in the NLT says
this yet.
It was our weaknesses.
He carried it was yet.
It was our weaknesses.
He carried it was our sorrows that weighed him down and he
thought his troubles were a punishment from God a punishment
for his own sins, but he was pierced for our rebellion crushed
for our sins.
He was beaten so we could be whole he was whipped so that we
could be healed.
God.
I thank you for sending Jesus and Jesus.
I thank you for coming.
I thank you for everything that you endured so that we could
be free so that we could be whole who le
Completely whole, lacking no good thing.
Yes, Lord, I thank you for all the good things.
I thank you for all the good things that you have already done in our lives.
Lord, help us to look back and see all the ways that you were there for us all along,
even when we believe lies like we always get the short end of the stick,
or that we work hard and we work hard and we never get anything.
God, help us to look back and see the truth.
That we wouldn't believe the lie that the enemy's been feeding to us because our hearts were broken.
God, I thank you that you would just continue to bring things out of darkness into the light,
that there can be more revealings for healing, that truth would continue to flood to the surface,
not in a forceful, harsh way, but God, that it would just bubble up,
just percolate right to the surface at the appointed time for the appointed reason and
season for each person that they would have ears to hear what your spirit is saying.
God, I thank you.
I just sense a gentleness that entered this space as I was kind of praying that
scripture about Jesus and his sacrifices for us,
and just started thanking Jesus for everything he endured for our freedom, for our healing.
And so I hope you all just understand like Jesus is sitting at the right hand of the Father right
now interceding for us, interceding for our breakthrough, interceding for our life, interceding
for the things that we're even praying for.
He cares about what we care about.
And so I encourage you this week, you know, as we started Advent this last week, I encourage
you to really ask the Lord to show you the power of Jesus coming and the power of him coming in
the form of a baby and going through what he did on the earth to relate to us, to show us how to
walk in authority and breakthrough, but also everything he endured for our victory, because
you already have victory.
You're fighting from victory, not for it, ladies.
Okay.
All right.
So your activations for this week, I'm going to give those to you really quickly.
One of them, number one, is practice receiving.
Practice receiving.
I didn't talk about this as much tonight as I did this afternoon, but what this is, is
you all are going to practice going up to people, asking them for help, and you are
going to practice receiving.
Also, if someone just tries to do something nice for you, instead of being like, no, I
got this.
I'm good.
You're going to say, yes, that would be amazing.
Or thank you so much.
And you're going to let them open the door.
You're going to let them carry your groceries.
You're going to let them, you know, I don't know, pay for your cab fare.
I don't know what the thing might be for you, but you're just going to practice receiving
from women, from men, from everybody all around you.
Praise the Lord.
Unless it's something mean.
And then you're going to say, not today, devil.
Not today.
All right.
Number two is letting go.
This is what the activation is called.
And I want you to lean further into Supernatural Saturday Word, a prophetic ministry night,
and ask God to help you let go of the old and the bad things so that you can welcome
in and receive the new and good things.
In particular, as we're starting, we still have a whole month.
A lot can happen in a month, you all.
Okay.
So I'm not skipping ahead to 2026, but I feel led to go ahead and issue this because it's
our last letting go activation of 2025 for the heartwork group.
I want you to ask God, what does he not want you to take into 2026 with you?
What kind of mindsets, heart postures, attitudes, belief systems, actions, whatever it is that
you've been living in, that you've been thinking, operating in, that he does not want you to
take into 2026 with you.
For some of you, it's a relationship.
You're hanging on to a relationship that isn't even a relationship.
It's a situation ship.
It's not going where it's supposed to go because that person probably is not God's best for
you and you have to let it go.
Okay.
I'm not going to force you.
God's not going to force you.
He's not because he's a gentleman, but he is going to nudge you and he's going to lovingly
say, Hey, this isn't your family.
He's going to say, Hey, I have better for you.
And he's going to invite you to leave that thing.
And when you do, or before you do, I even encourage you to let it go before you might
even physically let it go.
But this is the activation to operate.
You can, you can take one of these two ideas.
If God shows you to do something else, go for it.
Okay.
Go for it and tell us about it.
But the first one is this, write a list of the things you're going to let go of, pray
and let them go.
And then set it on fire in a safe place.
You all be wise about where you're lighting it on fire.
but I want you to do evidence.
I wanna see it.
Did you burn a piece of paper?
I want you to take a video, a photo, whatever,
and post it in the group and tell us what this did in you.
Here's number two.
It's called the balloon release activation.
I want you to pray about.
You don't have to do both of these.
I'm giving you options you can run with.
What color balloon should you get?
What should it look like?
What does it represent?
Okay, some of you all are gonna feel led
to get a couple balloons
because there's a couple things you're letting go of.
I want you to follow the Holy Spirit in this.
I'm gonna show you two pictures really, really quickly
of people that have done this.
This is Yamina.
Yamina is one of our peer coaches.
She followed this activation and did it.
She was letting go of some really big things,
you all, that we were working on,
and she chose four blue star balloons.
That's what she felt led to pick.
Each one of those balloons represents something to her.
And she said, when she talked to me about it,
she said she cried and held those balloons
for probably about 30 minutes
before she was actually able to let them go.
And so I want you all to know,
it's not always easy to let go,
but as soon as she did, she felt a release in the Spirit.
Not everybody's gonna always feel something
right away either, and that's okay.
Number two, I'm gonna show you this one.
You can't see the person, but it's just showing you
people that are doing this in our community.
Here's another one.
Can you see this pink balloon?
Y'all see that?
She just recently, she's in a different phase
in our community, had been dating someone
for a little bit of time, really liked the guy,
thought it was gonna be the Spiritmate,
and then he broke up.
And so she did that balloon release to let him go
so that she could actually move forward
to start dating again.
And so I want you to know these activations can be done
for all different reasons,
but for you right now in the Heart Week,
heart work, excuse me, what does it mean for you?
I want you to pray about that.
And then y'all, I want evidence.
We wanna see it.
We wanna see you just like those photos
with your balloon, a picture of the balloon.
Tell us what you're letting go of, what you did let go of.
Hopefully you've already done it at that point.
This should be fun, hopefully, for you all.
And it should bring some level of release for you.
Again, you may not all feel it right then, and that's okay,
but just even knowing that you've let things go,
hopefully you're gonna just feel a little bit lighter.
All right?
Okay, so we-
Excuse me, can I ask you something?
Sure.
Yes, so the balloon is to symbolize
something that we wanna let go,
or something that we want to get in our life,
invite on our lives.
Well, you're letting a balloon go and you're releasing it.
You're letting it go.
So that's not representing something
that you're wanting to receive in your life.
This is something you're letting go of,
and you're saying, okay, I'm not taking this
into 2026 with me.
Y'all aren't in 2026 yet,
but I want you to get a headstart on this.
Okay, okay, got it, thank you.
Yeah, great question.
And one of the other things I do say
about the balloons, you all,
I don't encourage you all to put your list
of things that you're letting go of with your balloon, okay?
I've had people in the past tie those,
and I always think, what if that balloon pops
and that lands in the neighbor's yard?
There might be things
you don't want the neighbor to know, okay?
So just go ahead and rip that,
go ahead and rip that list up or burn that too.
But again, the balloon releases kind of,
these are just two different ways of letting go.
If you think of something, I had a lady at one point,
she felt led to go to a lake and throw some rocks
that represented everything she was letting go of.
Follow the Holy Spirit and trust where he's leading you,
okay?
All right, awesome.
Great question, Mel.
All right, Leslie, go ahead.
And just if you're new
and you don't know what we're doing right now,
I probably should tell you, we're doing group coaching.
You can come live and tell the whole group
what you shared in the private breakout.
You can ask questions regarding what's coming up
in your spirit during tonight's session,
and then we can kind of go from there.
All right, Leslie, go ahead.
Okay, so the fear I shared was that normally,
this is obviously for the next phase,
but I know that's kind of what we're working on.
That if, you know,
because so much stuff seems to be online
and guys tend to be attracted not to me
like because of what I look like,
but because of my personality.
So there's that fear that I won't be able to attract guys
because, you know, they'll be too busy swiping,
you know, a lot of them don't even,
I mean, I guess some read the profiles,
but I hear a lot of them don't.
So what do I do with that?
Like, how do I counteract that?
Uh-oh, I'm not hearing you.
I paused myself because it sounds really loud for my husband's computer over here.
What was I saying?
It was really good too.
I think what I was saying is that it's a really great question and this to me is the appropriate
place to ask something like this because this deals with identity to me.
Okay.
And it deals with identity because you believe the lie that you can't attract guys by your looks.
Yeah.
Okay, so this goes to the core of what you think about yourself.
Okay.
Number two is, here's my question for all of you that struggle with something similar to this.
Do you believe that God can highlight you to your spirit mate?
Okay, yeah, that sounds good.
Is that a yes?
Do you believe that?
Oh, well, I guess that's the direction I'm moving in.
Okay, but that's not the answer.
I'm literally saying to you, do you, Leslie, believe that God can highlight you to your
spirit mate?
Do you know what I mean by that?
I think so, yeah, that he would draw you, he would draw him to you.
Yes, and do you believe that if God wants to, I'm not saying you're going to meet your
spirit mate online, maybe you'll meet him in person, but what I am saying is, do you
believe that God in his creative ability can choose to bring a guy online at the same time
as you and highlight you to him if he is your spirit mate?
Yeah.
Okay, so the fear that you believe is rooted in your own thoughts about yourself that aren't
good.
Okay, so that's kind of number one.
Number two is, it's a shift that you have to make from fear to faith.
And it's all rooted in love.
It's all rooted in understanding God's ability and letting God out of the box that we put
him in so often.
And that's not just towards Leslie, that's towards all of us.
There's times where we don't even mean to, but we just limit God in what he can do.
And I get what you're saying.
You're not afraid.
You're like, I think people are just going to pass me by because this isn't how I've
attracted people in the past.
But you know what, Leslie, aren't you different now?
Well, if you're different now, aren't you showing up everywhere that you go different
now?
Mm-hmm.
So wouldn't your online dating profile potentially also end up being different now?
Yeah.
So is there potential that your online dating profile could now absolutely attract all kinds
of guys?
I suppose so.
Isn't this fun?
Like, I know I'm being real simple right now, but I want you to see, and I'm not trying
to minimize, this is a real struggle for a lot of people.
Right.
But what I'm trying to show you is if we just think the opposite, how quickly things can
start to change.
Am I saying everybody's going to meet their person like this quick, quick, quick, quick?
No, that isn't realistic.
Some people are.
I'm just going to tell you guys right now, when you get into the next phases, do not
freak out when someone has a very accelerated process.
Now, some people, they're getting connected way too fast, and they're getting married,
and they're not listening.
But what I'm saying is there are going to be some people that it's just going to be
a supernatural thing.
And everybody's story is supernatural.
So don't hear what I'm not saying.
But what I am saying is some people go into the other phases, and when that happens, they're
like, well, it's not happening for me.
And they start thinking something's wrong with them.
And that's not true.
Everybody's process is different.
Okay.
So Leslie, you need to keep praying for God to help you really get to know yourself and
love who you are and how you show up.
Maybe for you, one of the first things I would do is, hey, have our team look at your profile
and help you.
You might need to get some new photos.
We tell people all the time, hey, if you guys show us your profiles, we'll tell you, yeah,
this is not a good photo.
It does not look good of you.
And we'll lovingly tell, we're not going to be mean, but we're going to tell you like,
hey, you know, man, that green color you wore, that looks amazing on you.
But this brown just does not compliment you.
Don't wear sunglasses.
We're going to tell you all those kinds of things because guys want to see your eyes,
ladies.
So I'll just tell you now, when you get to that point, don't put a bunch of photos up
with you and sunglasses.
I know that we all.
think it looks cool because I used to think it looks cool and it does but they want to see your
eyes okay they don't you don't want to put up pictures of you with your friends because then
they're sitting which one is it is it her is it hers and oh well maybe I think this girl's cute
over here why would you even do that like why would we do that to ourselves just put yourself
up there do you know why we do that sometimes we think we look really good in a photo and that's
why we want to use that photo or maybe we're afraid to be seen by ourself
sometimes it's that can I ask a question sure what how how like obviously I know how it works
in this phase how does it work in the next phase as far as we get to continue to work with you guys
now I won't I won't be coaching in that phase phase two I have other coaches that are working
in there with you all I do some work in our phase three and so we have other coaches in phase two
but I know I know everything that like I oversee those coaches so I know what's going on in that
group all the time and what is phase three is that can I ask that I can quickly talk about
that but then I'm going to go to Angie it's just another phase of our program where we literally
we have all kinds of things from nights that we do single spotlight where people get to know other
singles in the community to love stories where we have people that are success stories from our
community come on and tell their story about how they're how they met what did God do in their
life what has God been doing since he brought them together we do love seats where Jackie does live
on your relationships we do several other things lots of lots of things phase three is not scary
y'all it's awesome it's fun you don't need to worry too much about that right now because
tonight and now y'all need to focus on heart work but yeah it's totally okay that you ask that
question we want you to know a little bit about it and we don't want you to be afraid of it because
it's going to be amazing I love uh doing things in that group I do advanced heart work from time
to time in there as well so like basically this heart work tonight um kind of on steroids so a
little bit more and it's real time like whatever people are dealing with I'm not on that given
night and so all kinds of great things happening over there in phase three we do a lot of community
building and all of that as well so a lot to look forward to ladies um but great question Leslie
and I hope all of you understand like you know everything that we do all the coaches we really
are always praying for you looking out for your best and we'll be um honest with you in as kind
of ways as we as we can be always for sure yeah thank you you're welcome Angie go ahead
um I think it's hard to boil it down there's so many things but um I think you know when you said
um being concerned that the shoe's always going to drop I don't actively look for that but there's
this sense this fear that things are always going to be hard because there have been tons of
hard things and I'm facing lots of new hard things um what does that mean
um so um
over the past
well hard things in the sense of um like it's not just the hard things it's also
like always feeling like okay I've done 10 million inner healing things and deliverance things and
therapy things and it's almost like am I missing some key that I'm so deficient that um
somehow I know God doesn't overlook me I can I can I have lots of head knowledge and I know I
but I it's like that longing for an encounter with the Lord that touches the deeper things that go
beyond my efforts and um I mean my dad has cancer that's one thing I live almost five hours away
I commute eight like 80 miles almost every day between to and from work have a lot of health
um anniversary of my mom's death from a few years ago
pretty broken family I have my closer friends are where
I used to live which is a couple hours away hasn't like I felt like the Lord's kind of
consecrated me since I've moved to a different area but it's lonely and so
right on one level I accept that he's doing something on another level I'm like but it's
still lonely um and it just felt like all my efforts like he just is like I guess you're
I'm not having you rely on people as much I know you've tried over and over and over
I want you to focus on me and um it's like okay Lord when do I get a breakthrough of
what what does it even mean to have consistent joy it's not for lack of effort it's but it's
like I really because I a person can go through lots of hard things
but if I but I just really want to have that sense of the deeper feeling of experiencing God and his
joy um I know this might be a sensitive topic because your dad is sick but I I need to ask you
how has your relationship been with your dad like I guess it's the stereotypical what um
he in the sense of you know what you your father affects your relationship with God well that's
not exactly why I'm going there I want you to understand that I literally saw a hole in your
touch from the Lord to radically set you free is actually based in in something that was missing
from before and it's not that the Lord isn't touching your life I think that the enemy is
trying to cause you to believe it's not enough so that is why it's not it's not because it was
a typical question to ask because I feel like sometimes I ask about dads sometimes I ask about
tonight the whole I really believe it it is connected to your dad so that's why I want to
know a little bit more dynamic um my dad uh just retired from farming uh he always worked um
and then was exhausted and he's the kind of guy who believes that his actions of providing
are what show love and he didn't really say I love you my whole life until I said it when I
went away to college um because he said well my family never said that I didn't grow up that way
um he's just there's there aren't a lot of words um and I lived with him for a year a few years
after my mom died and my health I had a lot of health issues and just a lot of stuff and
even then like there was a little bit of healing but there's still he just
it's like I don't think he even knows how to express certain things with words it's just there's
I okay so my next question is actually about you so when those things that your dad you know
it sounds like he loved you it sounds like he was providing for you all and taking care of you but
the need for affection was there that's evident so my question is what were the lies you were
hearing when you were not getting the affection that you were longing for I think at least from
my dad's part I just I think I really felt like don't expect anything from a man don't like don't
have a need don't because it won't you're invisible it won't get met um I mean basic provision will
but you'll you're just not I'm just not noticed so is that something a thought you had on your
own or is that a thought that you heard because someone else said it no no I just I think I mean I
figured that out later like I just never expected anything like from like I learned I'll know I don't
he never said you're pretty or good job or he didn't want me to get a big head he'd say something
or but my sister was born 12 years later and she'd pull on him and get things he was in a different
position um I also have a brother but I would see her get things but she would
She was much more like, come on, dad, let's do this.
And he'd kind of do that,
but he never gave compliments or anything to her
or my brother either.
So when you come into a group or a room, Angie,
and there's no shame or condemnation,
I just want to know the honest, like how you feel.
Do you tend to stay in the background?
I tend to try to look for someone who I feel is safe
to try to connect one-on-one.
And then if I feel real,
if I know a group of people really well,
then I'm much more, but for years I was extremely shy.
Yeah, and when did the shyness start?
Cause I actually don't think God created you that way.
So when did that start for you?
Well, sort of weird two parts.
Like my first grade teacher said
I had low self-esteem to my mom.
And then like, I can only remember like a few years
where I was like, I don't know,
like an quote unquote normal kid, like it was outgoing.
And then when I was 12,
just like, I felt like complete depression and anxiety
and like hijacked personality, just completely hijacked.
But I was always a quiet kid.
I can't remember if I asked you this before about your mom,
was your mom the same way?
She was hot and cold, vacillated, you know,
one minute could be nurturing another minute,
like, you know, could be really hard on me
or get over it or.
But I'm saying like, was she someone
that had low self-esteem?
Was she someone that didn't seem?
Okay, so was she miss outgoing?
Tell me.
Okay, how about your grandparents?
I'm just feeling like there's a familial connection here.
I just think that what you're up against the reason,
cause you said something interesting to me.
You said, I've done like 10 deliverance, inner healing,
I've done all these things.
And I just, you know, I'm still trying to figure out
why am I deficient?
What am I missing?
And so I'm just, I just, as I'm hearing,
I'm asking you these questions
because I'm really trying to seek the Lord about what,
where is this coming from for you?
Because the shyness, I don't,
I genuinely don't think God created you that way.
I think this happened because of some kind of trauma.
And then you're telling me that the teacher was pointing out
you had low self-esteem.
And then you said that you weren't labeled
as a normal kid, essentially.
Well, I feel like there was only a small window
where I felt like a normal kid, like free.
Like I never, there was only a few years
I kind of felt free.
And there was some sexual abuse when I was really little
that I didn't know until in my third,
like I knew something was wrong with me,
but God didn't reveal it until I went through
major time of inner healing.
That was, yeah, when I was probably three or four.
Okay.
Do you all see how getting to know these things
is really important?
This is why I ask these questions.
Because even though you've done inner healing before,
I think we've gotten to the whole.
Remember I talked about the whole before?
Not only with your dad and the affection
and love that you needed,
is physical touch one of your top love languages, Angie?
I, no, but like I was a-
Have you ever done the love languages?
Oh yeah, yeah.
But I love hugs.
And I was afraid of them for years
until I went to college and made good friends
and then was like, oh, I like this.
Okay, so when I say is physical touch
one of your love languages,
it doesn't mean that because of what happened to you,
you're always gonna feel comfortable with receiving that.
But you might have a, like,
are you someone that it can show up a lot of different ways?
Like where, without realizing it,
you might put your hand on someone when you're talking.
Yeah.
Or, you know, like it does make you feel very loved
to hold someone's hand that you know loves you.
Yeah.
You know, it's not always sexual.
Okay, I wanna make sure that's very clear.
And that wasn't really part of my childhood.
Like my parents didn't really do that.
So they didn't hold hands?
No, not really.
And they didn't, I mean, I mean, I got maybe a good night hug, but it wasn't a lot of physical
affection at all.
Okay.
And so I think part of the struggle here, and you're, you're going to be able to work
through this.
I don't want you to feel like it's too big.
It's not, I actually think the enemy has tried to make it seem bigger than it is, as far
as that, you're not going to be able to get over it because you like, again, the enemy's
kind of emphasizing some things to you that you've been partnering with.
I've done all these deliverance things, and I'm still deficient.
I'm still not figuring it out.
I want you to know that every step that you've taken has brought you here.
And every step you've got a little bit more free, a hundred percent believe that with
all my heart.
I don't even have to know you really, really well to know that.
I just know from my own life, every step of healing I took absolutely was effective.
And it wasn't that, Oh my gosh, I'm just still like the enemy always wants to make, wanted
to make me believe I wasn't enough all the time, but it wasn't that that's not truth.
And so I want to encourage you to come out of agreement with that lie.
You're not deficient.
Okay.
It's just that each time, instead of, okay, this is how I want you to kind of flip the
switch here.
Instead of believing the lie that you're missing something and you're deficient, I want you
to think of it as building blocks.
And every healing step that you've gone through was another building block to your freedom.
Not because you're lacking something, but because you're stepping forward, you're stepping
higher, you're receiving another revelation and it's getting you more and more breakthrough
and healing.
God declares that he wants us to be completely whole, lacking no good thing.
Do y'all know that it takes time sometimes to become completely whole?
Yes, God could automatically deliver us.
He could, but you know what?
Sometimes when he does that, we look back and we think we did it.
It's true.
But when he delivers us over time and we go through the process, not only are we getting
a massive breakthrough that we're getting revelation about, but then a lot of times
what happens is we tend to reach back and help somebody else too.
Yes, that can happen too if we get automatic deliverance and sometimes we get that in some
But I really think that the area where I know that you're saying for a long period of time,
there was only a little bit of time that you felt like a normal kid.
I want to encourage you to also come out of agreement with you're not a normal kid because
even though you're an adult now, I think those tapes are still playing underneath the surface
that you're not normal, that you have something wrong with you.
I forget you said something else along the way, but where you're not partnering with
these statements about your identity anymore, does that make sense?
And I know that again, I feel like there's a couple of simple things that God is having
me say to you all tonight, but they're going to help you really get a lot of like momentum
because you're going to stop partnering with the lie.
And that's literally the, it is the most pivotal thing we could ever do is start to say, okay,
that's a lie and I'm not going to partner with that anymore.
And I'm going to turn and go the other direction.
And I'm going to believe that everything that I've been doing that God has been leading
me to do is helping me and has been blessing my life.
And he's giving me the revelation I need to get to freedom, to get into the promised land,
to be fully blessed, to live the abundant life, the good, good life.
And I understand what you're saying can feel really tough sometimes when you've gone through
a lot of things like that, to understand the, the deep abiding joy and peace.
But if you were on the prophetic ministry night last night, one of the things I said
is that God can teach us that the more that we know him, y'all getting to know God's character
more and more and more is going to help you understand the things that come from him.
Joy, the deep abiding joy and peace.
That is who he is.
I think sometimes we think it's going to be this big earth shattering thing.
And sometimes it is, sometimes it feels like this big burst and we, we have this emotional
response and it's amazing, but you know what the biggest victories I've had have been in
the kind of the still small moments with God where I get another revelation of how good
and faithful he is and how loving and kind he is.
Just like that dream experience.
That's why I shared that tonight.
Like he just was like, Hey, I don't, I don't talk to you that way.
You know, where we start to make these shifts in realizing, okay, what we've experienced
in the world is not who he is.
So have you ever forgiven your dad for not hugging you?
I don't know about that specifically.
I guess I never even thought to forgive him for that.
I would.
It hurt you that he didn't.
Even though you know that he was providing for you and he was loving you in the way that
he knew how to convey love, it still wasn't enough for you.
You needed to be hugged.
You said, he never told me I was beautiful.
He never said I did a good job.
So I wouldn't be surprised if one of your love languages is words of affirmation.
Yeah, that's the biggest.
Okay.
So yeah, ladies, we should forgive our parents.
It doesn't mean they were bad people.
It just means maybe they didn't have the tools they needed to show you love in the way you
needed it, Angie.
You know, and I'm not excusing it.
I'm just saying like, yeah, we need to forgive them for that stuff.
Because even if they didn't mean to hurt us, it hurt us.
And then maybe you'll be able to close that hole a little bit more, you know, I mean,
it's God doing it.
But as we forgive them, you know, like Jesus, even on the cross, you know, he said, forgive
them for they don't know what they're doing.
And it doesn't have to on in that case, it was something, you know, kind of bad, but
like, it doesn't always have to be these blatant bad sins that people commit against us.
Sometimes it's the overt things that they don't even know that they're doing that hurt
us.
Okay, so let's process those things, ladies, I want you to be thinking about that stuff
as well.
Forgive, let it go, release and relinquish this stuff to the Lord.
Angie, really, really great.
Thank you for letting me ask you those questions and letting us kind of hear a little bit more
about your story.
I'm going to be praying for God to continue to connect the dots in the building blocks
for you to help you see that you're, you're stepping up, you're not going down and missing
something and being deficient, you're, you're building upward.
Okay.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Ladies, though, our perspective is key, always.
Okay, super important.
Thank you, Angie, so much, Megan, go ahead.
Hi, um, so for me, I've had a little bit of fear that actually happened, maybe about 20
minutes before we met tonight, so I actually started to get a bit of pain in my back.
And it's kind of the area of where my pancreas is, and I've had pancreatitis before.
And because of it, like last year, I had to get my gallbladder removed.
And I'm also dealing with like, four partial tears in my shoulder right now.
So it's just a lot of like health stuff.
And so I'm just like that when like pain came in, there's just the fear of like, like going
through all these things with my body.
But then also it's like, I don't want the financial burden.
But I also kind of when I was just like sitting here and just listening to the other ladies
talk, um, I was just kind of asking God, I'm like, what, you know, does the pancreas really
process and a lot of it's obviously sugar.
And I was like, maybe in some ways, the enemy's trying to attack my body in a representation
of like, that he doesn't want me to receive the sweet things that God has for me in some
ways, too.
So but yeah, just kind of relinquishing that fear of like, that my body's always going
to be in pain, or I always have to be on edge of not trying to cause this flare up again.
If that makes sense.
So it does.
So are you believing or hearing any lies connected to a spirit mate not picking you because of
sickness to anything like that happening?
No, I wouldn't say more like sickness, it would be maybe more with like,
a debt rather than sickness.
Okay.
And so ladies, this is really important.
Okay.
I want you to really think about how some of these things are interconnected.
So the reason I felt led to ask her that is because sometimes we have fears because of
what we're going through.
But sometimes we also have fears that the things that we face will hinder us from receiving
a blessing that we want.
Okay.
And so I asked her about her body, but she said no.
It's really more a fear that they won't choose her because of debt.
Do you see how the enemy is working?
It's two different angles there.
Those were two things that she mentioned.
The physical seemed like it was on the primary, but really the
debt is in the primary seat right now.
Do you see how that's working?
And so, um, the way that we would, again, we're, we're, we're
flipping a lot of scripts tonight.
Okay.
So Megan, I want you to think, what is the opposite of my
body's always going to be in pain?
Um, be healthy and, um, just freedom, I guess, to be able to do things
in life and, and have abundance in life.
Yeah.
So I want you to look up some scriptures, um, in the next
couple of days on vitality.
That word in particular vitality and long life.
There are several scriptures that talk about God blessing us with vitality,
long life, um, you know, that we would see the goodness of
God in the land of the living.
And I want you to like, to start believing and partnering with that
regarding your physical, uh, struggles that you've been having.
Um, of course, I always believe in anointing, being anointed and prayed
over for any kind of physical sickness.
So you may want to consider doing that with your church, if they believe in that.
Um, okay.
And then also, um, this is coming to mind.
I don't say this all the time to people, but you may want to consider taking
communion on a more regular basis.
Not only at church.
I don't know if you're a believer in, um, there was an old book,
many, many, many years ago, you all way back when I was a new believer,
it was called the meal that heals.
It's not out anymore, but, uh, it is the meal that heals.
Communion is the meal that heals.
And I believe that not only will this do something in your spirit
regarding your physical healing, but I believe it's going to do something
in you emotionally as you partner with, you know, Jesus's sacrifice for you.
And not from the point of, um, yes, we want to remember and have
that kind of reverent, you know, posture, but I want you to, when you
guys were coming back from your rooms, one of the things that I was saying
is we fight from victory, not for it.
Okay.
So I want you to know that Jesus has already won the victory for you.
And as you take communion that you're partnering with his victory already
declared for you and created for you, and that Jesus can help you step
into being completely debt free.
It might take time.
It takes time sometimes.
And did you hear on the supernatural Saturday that Jackie actually said for
some of you, maybe it will be your first time ever being completely debt free.
That comes to mind, Megan, for you.
Okay.
And, and that might, might be, maybe you're just making a big dent in that debt.
I don't know what that's going to look like for you, but I also want you to be
thinking of what's the opposite of, I'm afraid my spirit mate won't
choose me because of my debt.
What's the opposite of that?
That they'll choose me for who I am.
And I don't know that they would want to partner with God to be able to be a
Yeah.
I think that there's a lot of things that you can go and sit and think about
what's the opposite of this negative thing that I'm believing.
Remember fear is false evidence appearing real.
Your spirit mate, um, maybe really good at being strategic and crushing debt.
You know, like that may not even phase them at all.
I remember, um, you know, when I first met Brian, y'all, I had a lot
of school debt until I met Brian.
He's a, he's got a doctorate in his MDiv and he's been in, was in school for years.
And, uh, I remember the first time we talked about the debt conversation and
how, you know, the enemy really wanted to bring fear into that conversation.
And I remember not long after that, like I just chose to partner with like, God, I
just believe you're going to help us pay this off.
Like I just started partnering with that because I just didn't think that God was
going to bring us together for us to be bound under this, you know, uh, debt.
And so one day Brian was like, yeah, we're just going to have to pay on
it for the rest of our lives.
I said, don't you dare say that ever again.
And I was saying it lovingly, but just, I want to, I want to plant a
seed of faith in all of you.
Okay.
I do believe that God can help us be good stewards of the finances that he gives us.
I do believe that God can teach us how to invest.
I do believe that God can get us resources, give us promotions, you know, bring increase.
And not only have I been believing that for years, but God has been radically doing that
in this last year.
And so I believe it now more than I ever did.
And so I just want you to start to partner with God.
God, thank you that you're going to help me get out of debt.
And I'm going to attract a really amazing spirit mate.
And he's going to choose me.
He's going to love me.
You know, Proverbs 18.22 says a man who has found a wife has found a good thing.
He's going to see the value in you.
I saw the value in Brian.
The value in him was greater than that piece of paper that said he owed money.
It's funny you mentioned that because what my name means, it means Pearl.
And like, obviously that's something of great value.
It is.
It is something of great value.
And so, again, what are we partnering with?
Are we partnering with that we're valuable or are we just looking at some of you?
It's your kids.
I know.
Dare I say it out loud, but some of you are afraid that someone's not going to pick you
because you have kids.
Annette's was, if I'm a grandma, people aren't going to like, that's how it makes me sound
old.
You know, like see how the enemy gets in there and he works in these ways.
He's trying to get in there.
We just got to keep saying no.
It goes back to when I said, um, what's the scripture, sorry, I got to turn to it.
Proverbs 4.23, you know, keep your heart with all vigilance.
We got to protect it.
So praise the Lord.
He can heal, you know, pay attention to that, that thing on your body.
Of course, if you need to go to the doctor, go to the doctor.
Okay.
But you all let's sometimes it's, it is the enemy trying to make us think something's
coming back and partner with fear.
So I want to encourage you just to be really wise this week, pay attention to your body.
Um, but let's come out of agreement alignment with things that are not true and partner
with things that are true.
Things that are forward thinking of what God is going to provide in the days to come.
Really really good.
Oh, I love thinking about the opposite of the negative.
It's like one of my favorite things.
And obviously that's kind of the theme tonight because I didn't do that all day this afternoon.
Megan, thank you for sharing that with us.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
For those of you, you know, we're past nine 30.
If you need to jump off, it is okay.
I always love to say that just because I don't want anyone to feel kind of like, should I
stay?
Should I stay?
Will they think something bad?
Um, but I am going to have Chrissy share and Mel, I won't be able to take anyone else after
the two of them.
Okay.
Chrissy, go ahead.
Okay.
So there was, there was a few things that I shared.
I know it was on earlier today, just listening because I was at work, but as, um, Angie was
speaking and, um, and then Megan, I was just writing a lot of other things down.
Um, I think actually what stuck out to me, it was when you were talking to Angie, um,
I mentioned the physical touch.
Um, I do that all the time and my niece who is now 10, um, she had a conversation with
my mom and her mom, my sister about, um, how much teeth TT loves to touch her.
And she likes the personal space.
She doesn't want, but she doesn't tell me because she doesn't want to hurt my feelings.
So that was a conversation she and I had to have, but, um, but my mom told her that because
she said, Oh, TT, you know, she's alone all the time.
So she just likes to love people that way.
And I was like, that's sad.
But, um, but now that you were talking about that, um, I wondered if that was more, and
then the more that you kept talking about it, I kept thinking, and I don't know, I don't
think any human being would have said this to me, but when my father passed away and
I didn't realize until later, um, I held a lie that because I didn't give him a hug
the night before I killed him.
And how old were you?
I was two weeks before my ninth birthday.
Okay.
Um,
And as I grew up, obviously, you know, I understood that that wasn't the case.
You had sleep apnea, we didn't know that.
But that lie was already there.
And then I don't know who said it, and I don't know if it was earlier or not, somebody said
being a digger, like digging into things, because I feel something and I'm like,
oh, I gotta go dig for it.
And when Megan was mentioning the pain in her body, I always do that.
But I always, I do it as like, if something is happening physically, I immediately go
into the spiritual and I start praying and thinking like, okay, what is the Lord saying,
what is the Lord doing?
So like when you mentioned your dream, about the lungs and cancer, I knew like, I could
immediately see that that's the enemy was coming towards your voice.
But I never think of me first.
And yeah.
So do you feel like, okay, let me ask you a couple questions, just so I can learn a little
more about some of the dynamics you've been through.
Number one, I want to talk about the touching thing, the hug thing.
I don't think you're just doing that because you're alone a lot.
I think that, yeah, it could be, it could be, you know, exasperated a little bit, because
you are alone, and you are probably needing connection.
Because if you're a physical touch person, man, you're a lot, you need that you need
that physical connection, you know, you long for that.
And so I think just learning more about what are your love languages might inform you a
lot more on that, Chrissy, okay.
It's very interesting to me, that at nine, you would think that because you didn't hug
your dad that you killed him.
That to me sounds like, like the enemy just directly assaulted you, you know.
But it's interesting that it's coming up tonight because of the hug thing, you know.
And so I think just really coming out of agreement that that, you know, obviously, I think
you've probably done healing work, but it's coming back up.
And so I'm like, okay, so is it just on some level that you partnered with that you had
some effect on him, that you still are partnering with the hugging thing?
You know, so just be inquiring of the Lord about that.
Because I just think, again, like if it hadn't come up at all, I just think, okay, you're
past that.
It's not bugging you anymore.
It's nothing you struggle with anymore.
But it's come back full circle, because we're talking about physical touch.
And so just see, just ask the Lord, just real direct, Lord, why is this coming back up again?
Is, you know, is there something you're trying to show me?
And see what he says to you.
Regarding being a digger, I think that was this afternoon, Chrissy, which is totally
fine.
When one of the ladies was sharing, you know, sometimes we can start to feel overwhelmed,
and we want to know the answers of why all these different things are happening, or what
God is showing us about a certain person, or, you know, should we stay in that connection
with that friendship and all these things.
And so we start to try to dig, to find the answers as quick as we can, where we need
to just continue to pray and ask God to reveal things for healing, and trust that he's going
to do that in the best timing for us.
So I don't know if that's helpful, but I wanted to touch on that real quick.
But I want to, in that last thing, you said, if something is happening, I tend to think
of other people first.
I have a word for them.
I have, basically, that's kind of what I heard you saying.
So when is the first time that you can remember when you had a need?
Like, you knew that you had a need, but instead you felt compelled to go help somebody else
instead.
And if you don't know the answer tonight, that's okay.
It can be something you pray into.
I don't have a specific answer to that, is that I went to our need.
But while you were speaking, there was a specific moment in time that came up to memory.
I was, I don't know how old I was, maybe between 10 and 12.
And I was feeling really sick.
And I happened to be sitting at the counter and I just threw up and I very, very rare.
I could probably count on one hand how many times I've ever thrown up in my life.
And that was one of them.
And I called for my mother and she was, I think, must've been doing something.
I don't know if she was doing something with my brother or something around the house and
her response to me was like, what, what do you want?
And I was just, I was being very quiet.
Like I wasn't trying to bother her, even though I just threw up on myself.
I didn't want to be a bother.
All right.
We just tapped into it.
Do you know that?
Can anybody else feel that in the zoom room here?
Chrissy, this is a root here.
Okay.
You just said something super important.
I wasn't trying to bother her.
I'm really sorry that that happened.
And you felt like you couldn't even really say what you needed help for.
I think that there's probably other instances of that before that happened.
Um, so as you're praying this week, um, that's, that's where we're, where you're going to
start.
Okay.
You're going to start with the memory member, the pool, the thread, how I talk about that.
We pulled the thread on the memory that comes up first.
And so tonight the memory that's come up first is this time when you threw up and you called
for help.
And then just, you know, her response caused a response in you.
I didn't want to bother her.
And so then you were trying to be quiet.
Even though you knew you had just thrown up on yourself, you were afraid to bother her.
So that fear could have been a fear that you believed out of lies or that fear could have
happened and been built over time because there were things that were said, whether she meant it
or not, that caused you to believe that you were a bother.
Okay.
It could be either or, but we need to ask the Lord to start to reveal more of that thread line.
Okay.
Let me ask you a question.
Um, when you found out that your mom said it's because she's alone all the time, how did that make you feel?
Sad.
Did you say sad?
Sad, yeah.
Yeah.
Did it make you feel sad that she said that or thought that?
Or did it make you like, tell me what made you feel sad?
It made me feel sad that she thought that, that that was the response.
Did you tell her that?
No.
I think you should.
I think you should pray about just, it doesn't have to be a big deal, but it might be the start
of you guys talking about some things that maybe need to be talked about, you know, um, and just
saying, Hey, like, you know, I felt now remember we want to own our feelings.
I felt really sad when I heard that.
That's why you thought I touch her a lot.
I mean, you can literally just say it like that.
Sometimes you all, I catch myself.
I, I don't know where I was recently and oh yeah, I do.
So I'm helping with this thing.
We have all these students coming over into our church from the school and we're teaching
them Bible stuff and I caught myself.
I kept touching this kid on his shoulder and like, you can't, you can't do that, but because
I'm just so like, you know, I'm around adults all the time.
And so, you know, there's things that sometimes we have to unlearn something a little bit.
Um, I don't mean anything by that, but literally I felt like the Lord was helping me see that
I was doing that.
Um, and so I do want you to know, like, you're not alone in that.
Okay.
And we, you know, we do need to be aware of how it might make other people feel.
Um, so one of the things I learned early on is you should never assume when you go up,
like someone comes up for a prayer that it's okay to touch them.
And so I think about that all the time.
Like you should ask permission, even with children, we really should ask permission,
you know, um, even if they are our nieces and nephews and it's not that you can't ever hug
people, you know, but I, even with my girls, I'll say, can I give you a hug?
Because they go through so much pain that sometimes.
A hug for them might not be what they need right in that moment. They might need time to decompress and
Be ready and able to receive that and so your niece
It could be just her age and kind of where she's at, you know, but sometimes it's what the kids are going through and
They need they need to compress things before they can receive love or they might have walls up
I mean, there's a lot of different reasons
But anyway, so I just want you to know you're a blessing and the way that you love people is a blessing Chrissy
But we have to learn how to keep it in a container sometimes when we don't maybe you know realize
We got to be careful to contain it a little bit
But anyway, so I just I wanted to mention that too because there are other people in here
And that you might need that help as well because you might you might you know
Get even date someone that's a big physical touch person, you know
I remember the first time I was sitting with Brian on a couch and he just nothing weird
But he just like slid his hand right underneath in my leg
He just like flat like slid it under and I was like, well, this is new. This is interesting
It's a physical touch like he just wanted like he just wanted to be close to me and you know
We weren't we weren't married at the time. So we weren't like being super intimate, but that was a way he felt close and
So yeah different people that have that love language it shows up differently for everyone
But anyway, so just trying to help you all see
You know how these things can show up and hopefully that's helpful for you, but pray into that Chrissy
Start with that first memory and see where God wants to take it from there. Okay
All right
and then come in the group as as the Lord shows you even if it doesn't happen right away and
Share more on that so we can kind of talk through that more. Okay
Thank you. Awesome. Thank you
Mel go ahead
If you're talking you're so muted just want you to know yes, can you hear me now? Yeah, I can
Okay, hi hi again just a quick question
Sure, because my sister she's not a part of this community. She's not on the group and
Actually, she's already married. She's been married for
three or four years and with my brother-in-law for eight years and
Recently they they started having all kinds of issues and and fights and talking about divorce
So before we went through through these last
Shareings and talking to these people you said that you guys do some type of coach
Coaching for people that are married and I wanted to know if I can have my sister coming to with her husband
That you guys didn't know
coach before is this completely new to do that and what is the best place to
Have them sign up and kind of go to the coach and my brother-in-law
He believes in God. However
he's part of all the side of the family is
Muslim so it's a little bit of a mix of tradition and cultures and beliefs and why not me and my sister
We're from Venezuela. We grew up in a Catholic
Kind of race home and then later on I we both understood
That it's not about religion. Actually, actually religion is wrong, but we still wanted to have
that
Relationship with with Christ, but I don't think that's the way he see it. He sees this and even though we actually
Not too long not too long ago
They were talking about
Getting divorced like I said
Thankfully and because of God he's he's been faithful to answer our prayers
the guy it's more calmer and
Really?
He's a behavior has changed considerably this last couple weeks because he was about just to leave that my sister and my my
Nephew out of one silly angry matter, right and my mother
My sister and I we start praying but of course we want to
We want to have this whole thing based on somebody that can help
Being a spiritual leader. I know he wants to go to therapy
But is that gonna help probably not no because yeah, it doesn't have the leadership
So here here's the answer to your first question. We actually just launched heart work for couples
That just went live
Literally like
week or so ago and so if you email admin at jackiedorman.com what is it called admin i'll
put it in the chat for you okay um it'll be easier if you can see it i think so that email
there that i just put in the chat if you email that and just let them know um you would like
to get information for the heart work for couples for your sister okay your in-law um
now i will tell you that our content is based on christian principles okay yes so it may be good to
let him know that and if he's not willing to take that then there might be other avenues that we can
direct the two of them to because we have a lot of network we do simbas coaching all most of our
content now in the future we do plan to kind of branch out to do a content that is geared towards
even non-believers but at this time everything that we do is connected to god and christian
principles and is heavy in our content um and that's what we want that's that's what we want
yes here's the thing though okay he needs to be open to that right because if you all are
trying to force something he may kind of press against that more and so i would highly recommend
now you know your sister and brother-in-law can work that out between them but i would highly
recommend that you all let him know that it is a christian based course because the book reading
and the videos and everything is going to be talking about god and jesus and all kinds of
things um and like i said if he's not open to that then you can let us know that as well and we can
get you connected to other resources that would be really good as well okay okay sounds good thank
you so much you're welcome great question thank you so much that's it ladies this has been a great
night i'm gonna go ahead and pray and close this out father thank you so much for your goodness
thank you god for your grace we thank you for revealings for healing that are already happening
god we thank you even things tonight that people had memories pop up that they haven't thought of
you know maybe in a really long time so lord i just thank you that you would come and just place
the balm of gilead upon every wound upon every hurting area god that you would um yes lord make
us completely whole god that you would wash over us with divine healing lord bring revelation bring
insight thank you holy spirit for being our comforter our counselor our guide our ever-present
help in time of trouble god i thank you that you're dependable yes lord
oh god just said to tell you all he's a good hugger while we can't always feel it in the
physical he hugs us in all kinds of ways in the supernatural and i god i just pray that you would
help these ladies feel a tangible hug from you in some way shape or form in this next week and i just
you in advance god for the surprises that you have for us god i ask you to continue to raise
their hope meters their level of expectation and expectancy god that they would believe god and
suddenlies are coming the blessings are coming into their lives god that you are going to continue
to work and guide them into the fullness of your plan and purposes for them each and every day in
amen god bless you all i hope you have a great night love you all amen bye