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Okay, so this is HeartWork. It is December 29th, the last session of 2025. Annette, kick us off.

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Okay, thank you, Renee. It's good to be with you again. Hello, ladies. I hope you all had

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a wonderful Christmas and a good time with your families and friends and just also maybe had a

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chance to take a deep breath between now and then. It's been a big week, and sometimes family time

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can be stressful. Sometimes people can feel lonely, but we are glad you're here tonight.

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We want to welcome everybody. Whether you're new and this is your first time on, please let us know,

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and if it's not and you're in the group regularly and have been with us, welcome back.

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Just a reminder that if you haven't taken the opportunity to do your welcome post yet,

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we really look forward to those. It's an opportunity to share a little more about yourself

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and help us to get to know you a little bit better, so if you haven't done that and you've been here

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for a little bit, pop in there and put something in, and if you're brand new, we'd love to hear

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from you as well. I know it takes courage to turn on your camera or to make a post and put a picture

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of yourself, but we always enjoy the opportunity to get to know you better, and I see many lovely

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faces and names on tonight. We always like it if you can turn your camera on, whether your hair's

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done like Renee or not. We still want to see you. We enjoy the interaction, and also Supernatural

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Saturday. Was anybody on this Saturday? If you were able to listen, I was able to listen before

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I went to work. Always so good. Such a blessing. If you weren't able to listen, catch it in the

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replay. It's definitely worth your time, and then the other thing that is really the foundation

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of the last year single are the prayer calls in the morning. Those really bring a sense of

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community, camaraderie. You're able to pray with your sisters to get your day started,

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so if you can come to that, remember to show up and start your day off with a bang

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with the prayer calls. Okay, speaking of prayer, I'm going to pray, and we're going to get started.

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Dear Heavenly Father, thank you for the opportunity to gather this evening

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and to gather as your daughters and to be encouraged by your spirit and by your word.

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I pray that you would speak to us tonight, that you would prepare hearts, that

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seeds that are planted would be grown by you, that transformation would happen,

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and you would guide by your Holy Spirit into truth and the things that you want to heal us

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from, from our past, from lies, from trauma, that we can step out in freedom and forgiveness

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and light, life, and encouragement into the communities around us and into our future

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relationships with spirit mates, or even just those that were in community with friends and

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family. Thank you for the work that you're doing in and through each one of us. Be with Renee

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tonight as she speaks, and God, we pray that your Holy Spirit would just guide every word

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and conversation. In your name I pray, amen. Oh, and you open your eyes and there's like people,

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double the people. So good, thank you for that. The other reason why it's good to put your

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camera on, you guys, is it's to let the world know that you deserve to be seen, and so many times,

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you know, we see folks who feel like they're not getting picked, they're not getting the job,

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they're not getting the promotion, they're not getting chosen by a man, and we look at their

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Facebook profile, and it's like a picture of a cat, and they're always off camera, even on the

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co-ed stuff, and so there is something about coming out of hiding, and you know, if you can't do it

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with some girls here, it's sure going to be hard if you go to the next level of our program where

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you're in a co-ed environment, and I always say show up camera ready for those, but right now,

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while you still have the chicks, you get to come looking scrappy, and we're going to love on you

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and see your glow anyway, and give you feedback and all that good stuff, so there's something

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about that. About the prayer calls, too, you guys, if you are ever feeling discouraged or,

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I don't know, just like weary, weary, that's the word I'm going to use. If you're feeling weary,

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prayer times really help. I know plenty of people, they're like, they work full-time,

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and so they listen by their earbuds, and maybe they can comment in the chat, but just like being

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filled with that. There is a woman that I barely remember from the program, but she just tagged me

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in a post that she was in our program two years ago.

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And just got married and she said one of the things out of all of the teaching which helped change her and grow her so much

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She said one of the things that you led in prayer

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Was you had us pray instead of praying for our our spirit mate like he was out there in the future

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You had us picture that we were in the bedroom or the bathroom getting ready and he was in the kitchen cooking a meal

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So we were already praying as if he existed and she goes like that gave me just a mind shift

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That he's already out there and I need to pray for him as if he already exists

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and so you just never know and what can happen and if you don't make supernatural Saturdays because

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So this is like me underscoring everything that Annette just said because it's like I want you to hear it. It's that powerful

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What I love doing I'm a weenie. I'm always doing something Saturday morning

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So I always forget to listen to supernatural Saturday

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But I always listen to in replay and now that I do everything in seminary

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I do everything at 1.5 speed like if you talk less than a 1.5 speed, you're too slow for me. God bless you

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So I do that

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But then when she says something I'm like, I gotta write that down and then I hit pause and I write it down

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So it's like the best of both worlds

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You get it at a pace that you can listen to and it kind of revs you up

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But then you can always pause it and take notes

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So I will hop off the bandwagon and I will say when we go into breakouts later

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It is a must must must you need to come on camera for the breakouts

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there is no way people are gonna want to open up and share their guts with you if they just see it says

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so-and-so's iPhone

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Like yeah, Chantella like I like seeing your name

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But you're probably super cute and I'm much more likely to tell you something if I can see it

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And I'm just her name is just appearing right on my thing. And so joy

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I want to see the joy on your face. So all that I think so if you're gonna keep it off camera for now

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I can take it. I'm a big girl

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I'm gonna pretend that y'all are listening to me passionately and scribbling notes and it's amazing

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But I really am gonna say that once you get into that breakout room

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You really need to come on camera because not only that

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Like people want to look you in the eye and there's something about sharing your story looking people in the eye

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Again, it's it's all about being seen and being real. So there's that soapbox

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I will hop off on it because tonight's topic is really good because we're talking about

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what happens when our heart gets really broken at a very young age and

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What happens to that persona the kind of person that we become?

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Because of a broken heart as a child and I'm really gonna be pulling

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I want to pull some highlights right from the book because if you've not been

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Reading the book yet, and you've just been watching the videos

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That I really want to highlight a few things because Jackie says it's so good that I don't want to try to paraphrase it

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I've just I highlighted a few lines

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And so the first thing that we kind of remember is that trauma doesn't just hurt us in the moment when it happens

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So somewhere our most of us had our heart broken

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We could have gotten our heart broken before we were five and we don't even know exactly the story behind it

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It could have happened in our teens or it could have happened somewhere in our marriage

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I don't know where your heart when your heart got broken

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But chances are if you're in this program your heart got broken somewhere and something pretty awful happened that really hurt you and from that

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That changed you it changes your chemistry when your heart gets broken. It just changes the chemistry

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And so what happens is your identity changes a little bit in that and so there's the original

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Identity or sometimes in therapy world we call it your original child

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This is who God kind of created you to be crap happens

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And then a survivor version of you has to emerge if you don't get the healing that you need

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the problem is that survivor version of you while it helped you survive and

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We celebrate that version of you that person isn't doing well today

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Because that version that that version of you still believes the lies from that trauma and you found what I call

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Medicators or ways to survive that so again

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We don't shame that person because that person helped you survive the trauma

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But now that person is not serving you anymore and we need to release that person

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And so now I'm going to read some excerpts from the book

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And so I'm gonna tell you it's right from chapter 6 of her book where she kind of talks about lies

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and how it impacts your broken heart and

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So it says this

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We have to understand and believe that there is an entity that has that has some influence and some

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Power not as much as we think it does to help feed the lies that go into our heart

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This entity has no real power besides that we might allow it so we play a role

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In the power. So if you feel like the enemy has a strong power and hook on your life

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It's because you're letting him have that hook on your life

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you actually have the power to declare him to be gone from your life and

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Remember that the enemy is here to come steal and destroy you like those are some pretty like the scriptures pretty clear

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The enemy is here to kill steal and destroy

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Y'all like that's not just like he's not here to just weaken you make you a little bit less

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He is here to kill us destroy us and disarm us. So he's a he's he's got a pretty strong attack

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The good news is he is created and he is not the creator. And so we are bigger than him through Christ. All right

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So he is after your true identity

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So then she uses some words to describe the enemy Satan

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But the one she pulls up that we don't hear so much is Beelzebub

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so Beelzebub is another term for it and the name of that term is the

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Lord of the flies which is kind of funny because anybody ever read Lord of the flies so Lord of the flies

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I don't know about y'all, but we all think flies are gross. And did you ever notice flies like

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Going after like mushy stuff soiled stuff dead things

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Open flesh like flies will go after the flesh and so that is exactly what the enemy is trying to do

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He will find your open wound and he will go in and attack and here's what flies do when they go in and attack

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they actually

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Create whether you should call it. Ooh, they lay their eggs

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So flies will lay their eggs in that wound so gross and then that's where these little eggs hatch

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Larvae now have an unlimited food supply. And so this is kind of like what the enemy is trying to do to our heart

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He fills it with a bunch of lies while there's a wound

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So that we can start to operate from believe and we start to absorb

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Those lies and you guys it's really no different than when somebody

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Has a heart attack you have a heart attack a lot of times because of how you treat your heart

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What is the food that you're putting in your body that impacts your physical heart?

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Well, the same is true for our emotion and our spiritual

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Beliefs like if we allow unhealthy thoughts and beliefs and lies to come into our heart

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It's going to affect our heart in the same way bad food affects our heart. It just it just happens

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we can't get around it and

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So here's the thing they start out as little lies

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So here's the little me Renee my trauma happened to me and here's the thing you guys sometimes trauma that happened to you

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Wasn't anybody's fault. Sometimes it's not that you were beaten or abused

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It could have been like I grew up in the hospital. Like I was born with a birth defect in my eyes

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I had eight surgeries before I was 18 years old

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And then I also had a tumor on my tongue another surgery. So my poor mother

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I just didn't get the mumps or the measles or the flu

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I got crap that put me in the hospital and really impacted. Am I gonna see am I gonna die? And so from that

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Lie started to form I because I started to hear the phrase

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Renee we have to go to another doctor to figure out what's wrong with you

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Now, of course what they meant at the time was we can't figure out what this eye problem is

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We can't figure out why your eyes aren't working together. Why you're falling down the stairs why your eyes turned in

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So what they meant was we can't diagnose it. We can't figure it out, but I was two

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I heard we have to find out what's wrong with you. And then the other thing I heard was

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Don't cry be a good patient because my mom

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Wanted to make sure that I got the best care that I could and she didn't she was just worried that if I was a

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disruptive patient

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That I wouldn't get the care that I needed that the doctors wouldn't be all in for me

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So I also heard don't cry ever and you guys I'm

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57 years old and I still have a hard time crying like my poor husband sobs at everything

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He's like I'm gonna be the one crying at the wedding and you're not aren't is that and y'all it's kind of what happened

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Okay, serious

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Like I'm a really good public speaker and I could get a tear like I could start to cry and there's like something in me

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That just stops and I don't even try to do it anymore

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Like I'm still at 57 with all the heart healing really still working

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So I'm trying to give you an example that these lies that start to go in there aren't always these really bad

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Obvious lies like a lot of times people think oh, I'm sure I'm fat

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I'm too tall like those the ones you think of but these are like these subtle lies that get planted

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That start to redefine your identity as you go along

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Hope that that's giving you kind of a good example of that

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And so from that this heart is all getting messed up with these lies and so we kind

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and start to get fragmented or different versions of ourselves.

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Like, I don't know about y'all, but how many of them

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you can relate to?

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There's the Renee that shows up at work

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that's different than the Renee that shows up with her family

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that's different than the Renee that shows up with y'all.

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Like, when I was running Hope Clinic, a nonprofit,

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or when I was a coach, I was kind of like badass, bossy,

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maybe a little bitchy, maybe.

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But like, then fun Renee would go on vacation.

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And people would be like, oh my gosh, who's this person?

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I'm like, oh, that's fun Renee.

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So I got really good at compartmentalizing

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and being who people needed me to be

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in different environments.

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So that is a very fragmented.

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So maybe you can kind of resonate with that.

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You've been the mom.

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You've been the wife.

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You've been the daughter.

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You've been the friend.

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You've been all of these roles because you've

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lost your true identity that can show up everywhere,

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no matter what people think about you.

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And so she pulls in this on this next page.

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She's pulling up Proverbs 23.7.

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For as a person thinks in his heart, so is he.

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So it's clear.

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What we think in our heart, what we believe,

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what we have been pondering in our heart

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is actually the person that we've become.

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It just flows from that.

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In fact, in Luke 6.45, Jesus says this.

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A good person produces good things

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from a treasure of a good heart.

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And an evil person produces evil things

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from the treasure of an evil heart.

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What you say flows from what's in your heart.

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But you guys, we can replace evil with broken, sad, hurt.

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So a sad heart is going to have sad results.

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A hurt heart is going to hurt other people.

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You know how we always say hurt people hurt people?

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So that's usually kind of where that's coming from,

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right from that verse here.

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And it says here, she also says this in this chapter.

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We can never be more than what we believe in our hearts,

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no matter how much we pretend to be something

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else on the other side.

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As our hearts become full, whatever is in there

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spills out.

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So we can't help it.

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This is just the way that it goes.

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It's the way our hearts were built.

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These wrong thoughts are no longer just

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staying in our hearts.

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They are multiplying.

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They spill out our mouth, and they spill out in our behavior.

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So then she kind of talks about the process.

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And I'm going to add one step in front of the process

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because she starts with, first, we believe the lie.

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But here's what we do before we believe the lie.

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We listen to the lie.

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We ponder the lie.

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We munch on the lie.

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So remember, the first thing that Eve

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did wrong with the serpent is she listened to the lie.

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And then she didn't just listen and reject it.

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Because sometimes we can hear a lie and go, get behind me,

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say, and that's just a lie from the pit of hell.

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And I refuse to hear it.

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So we all might listen for a moment.

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But then we start to ponder.

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And then once we ponder it, when we

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let it come into our heart and give it space and time,

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that's when we believe the lie.

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So we don't usually just believe the lie

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because somebody says it once.

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We take it in.

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We eat it.

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We consume it.

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So then we believe that lie.

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we start to speak the lie.

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And then once we speak it, we become the lie,

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meaning that our behavior towards that

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is going to kind of bring us in that direction.

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I kind of like to say this.

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When you are getting a driving test,

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I grew up in the north, so I had to deal with icy roads.

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So my dad taught me how to learn how to drive in ice.

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When you start to lose control of the car,

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how do you get the car back in control?

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And what my dad suggested is the same thing

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I've seen an all-state commercial say.

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Like, when your car's spinning and you

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start to swerve this way, they tell you

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what you're supposed to do rather than overcorrect

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the ceiling where you're supposed

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to look back at the road, where you're supposed to be.

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If you look back, your arms will follow,

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and you will course correct.

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Wherever we're looking, wherever we believe,

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whatever lie we believe, that's where

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we're gonna send the car.

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That's where you're gonna send your life.

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It's like if you see a pothole in the road

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and you keep staring at the pothole,

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you're going to drive over the pothole.

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It's just the way things kind of happen.

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you find the spot that's not the spot, the pothole,

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and your car will take you there.

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That's the same thing that we need to do

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with our heart interaction.

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So first, we listen to the lie, we ponder the lie,

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we believe the lie, we speak the lie, we become the lie.

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So now you might be asking, well, then I just not,

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I just need to stop doing that.

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But usually what you'll hear a lot,

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Bethany will say this.

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phrase to you more than you'll hear any other phrase is, what is the lie you believe? When

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did you first believe it? Because if you don't figure out and go all the way back to when

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the first lie happened, then you can start to unpack it. So I might believe this line

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that I can't ever be sad, and I'm not allowed to cry. If I don't go all the way, now if

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I go, I might think, well, girls aren't supposed to cry. It's a sign of weakness, right? I

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might think crying is a sign of weakness. But because I went all the way back to when

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I was two, four years old, I was able to go, well, I was told not to cry because of this

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particular incident in the hospital. So here's the thing. Was my mom telling me that crying

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was not feminine or crying was weakness? No, that is not at all what my mother was trying

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to say. The lie that I heard was crying meant I wasn't going to get good care. But the truth

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is a doctor can handle that. The truth is my mom was worried about something that really

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wasn't true. So if you go all the way back to the beginning of a lie, you might find

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out what the real lie is so you can combat it with the truth. I'm hoping that's kind

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of making sense to y'all, but you guys will be able to ask us questions about that. But

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I'm kind of hoping. So that's like the first thing that you want to do. All right. I think

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that's all I want to read on this. So I'm not going to go back to her notes. So I really

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wanted to unpack that section just because that was so important for us to kind of understand

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as we go through. So here are some other verses where we have to remember. So usually what

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happens with the lie is that we not just want to unpack the lie, but we have to figure out

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what has become. So not only do I believe the lie, but who has Renee become? Like because

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I believe this, this and this, you know, I believe that something was wrong with me.

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I believed that I was broken. So then I started to put on a mask. I started to become an overachiever,

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like you know, scholastically smart. I was the good kid. I was the nice kid. I never

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argued with the teacher. I tried to be the, you know, the one to bring all my siblings

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together. Like I was the peacemaker. So I started creating masks and versions of myself

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because I believe the lie. So the one thing that we're going to want you to be thinking

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about tonight is what are the lies that you're believing about yourself? Then the next thing

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you want to think about is what are the masks that you've had to put on because you've believed

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the lie? Does that make sense? Like who have you had to become because you've listened

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to that lie? So who have you been pretending to be? Maybe you've only had one mask or you

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might be a little OCD, ADD like me and you've got about 17 masks. Like it could be one mask.

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It could be a lot of masks. We're all different. We all have had different trauma and different

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childhood. And so sometimes that mask might be like you grew up super poor and you didn't

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know if you're going to have food on the table. And so one of the masks that you've put on

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is that you need to overachieve and you need to be able to make a lot of money and you

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have to buy a lot of stuff because you have to prove to yourself and everybody else that

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you can buy whatever you need and that you're never going to have a scarcity in your home

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again and that money and stuff really matter and it's going to really help your identity.

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I'm going to do just a little bit more unpacking of that. And so one of the things that we

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want you to do is not only do we want you to start to unpack the lies that you're believing,

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but to figure out what the masks are, we now need you to protect this little raw heart

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that you've got, right? So here's your little heart, right? And we've realized we've got

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all these lies and all these wounds. Here's what usually happens. What do we all do when

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we say guard your heart? So scripture says you need to guard your heart. What do you

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think it looks like sometimes when we do it ourselves? Right? This is what we think guard

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your heart looks like. We think we built up like a steel trap wall. And that almost is

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what happened to Pharaoh, right? Like God allowed his heart to be hardened, which is

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really a way to mask his heart. It's like to hold it all off. The problem is if we,

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if we wall off our heart, yes, it's going to protect us from the bad stuff and the lies,

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but guess what? Then it stops us from receiving the good stuff too. Like we can't pick and

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choose if you've put walls around your hearts, it can protect you from the bad stuff, but

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the good stuff cannot get in. So I try to think of it like this. I try to think about

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my heart. Instead of doing this, I kind of put out there. So everybody do this with me

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unless you're driving. Here's your little heart. I want you to give it to God. That's

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how you guard your heart. You keep giving your heart over to him. He will not mess it

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up. He'll guard it. He will protect it. If you bring

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unhealthy people into your life, the wrong job, the wrong food, he will take care of

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it for you.

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He will get rid of the bad stuff and he'll help draw in the good stuff.

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So that's how I try to think about what guarding my heart looks like.

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I try to not do this anymore.

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I just try to say, it's yours.

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My heart is yours.

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I want to give it to you.

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I want to trust it to you.

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Okie dokie, because the thing is, you guys, our heart is like this muscle.

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You've seen a beating heart, right?

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It's like this soft muscly thing and it just does so much powerful stuff and it is like

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a sponge.

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So we have to be careful with what we do to it and we want to make sure that when we get

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back out into the dating world, instead of giving, here's what we all do, right?

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The minute cute hot guy shows up, we're like, oh, he said a few good things and he quoted

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scripture and he goes to church and maybe he even like sits next to the pastor.

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We're like, oh my gosh, you're amazing.

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Here's my heart.

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And he has to earn holding your heart.

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Really you need to, in that courting stage, God still gets your heart.

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He gets to earn and share in that.

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He gets to earn that and he will slowly walk your way.

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So we're going to teach you how in the next levels, how to slowly let a guy enter your

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heart instead of us just going, boom, here.

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Not that I was ever guilty of that, but I was.

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It's all good.

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Okay.

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Let's see.

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So here's some of the lies that you may have believed.

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You are insignificant.

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Insignificant mean you don't feel like you have any meaning, lack of worth, unimportant.

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You don't matter.

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You should be seen and not heard, right?

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That's what women, women should be seen and not heard.

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You're not enough.

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You're too much.

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Your opinions don't matter.

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You're going to always have to ask for stuff.

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If people really knew me, they wouldn't accept me, love me, or choose me.

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I've added some other ones in here.

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This is really a bummer.

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Like you guys, I've reconciled this with my father in the Lord and he's now happy, healed,

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and whole in heaven.

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But he used to say things like, Kathy's the pretty one.

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She does.

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She's gorgeous.

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She still looks like Jennifer Aniston.

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I'm waiting for menopause to give her some weight and it's yet to happen.

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And I'm the smart one.

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So I was always told, Renee, you're the smart one.

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She's the pretty one.

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So I always grew up thinking, well, if Kathy's the smart one and I'm the, you know, or she's

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the pretty one, I'm the smart one.

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Then it must mean I'm ugly.

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Now, my dad never said that, but that was the implied, but years later she goes, well,

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you realize what that meant was I was the stupid one.

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And I was like, oh, see, I always thought it was cooler to be the pretty one.

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But she's like, no, it was not cooler to be the pretty one.

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Like men just assumed I was stupid or they only like, whatever.

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I try to have empathy for her, you know, but y'all, she's been divorced twice.

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She's finally in love again.

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And I actually think she's got a good man.

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But it goes to show you being the pretty one doesn't always get you the guy or a healthy

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guy.

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So those are some that you've, or maybe the lie you've believed is you're so accomplished

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and you're amazing because of all the stuff you do.

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So you guys, that was the lie I started to believe because I believe the lie that there

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was something wrong with me.

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I started to become this overachiever, over performer.

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And for up until four years ago, I was the president of a nonprofit.

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I was big man on campus making good money, active in my church on the leadership team.

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I mean, I thought I was all that in a bag of chips.

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Like I really thought I was somebody for the kingdom.

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And then I left that position to take some time off to go to seminary.

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I make no money now, pretty much no money.

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I'm a chaplain part time and it pays bub kiss.

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I mean, I made more money being a babysitter.

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Don't have the big title anymore.

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Don't have the big paycheck.

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My phone's not ringing as much and I'm not as well known in my town anymore.

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And I don't get as many speaking engagements.

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And I have really struggled with who am I?

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Am I still valuable?

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And God's been like, Renee, you were valuable because I sent my son for you and died for

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you.

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That's where your identity comes from, not all this stuff.

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So when you think about the lies, one of the lies that you might be believing is you're

444
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only amazing because of the things that you do.

445
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And if you stop doing amazing things, you're going to stop being amazing.

446
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So that might resonate with some of you.

447
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Once we figure out what those lies, we then have to replace it with the truth.

448
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And the truth is you are a daughter of the king.

449
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The truth is because of the price that Christ paid for you, you get full inheritance rights,

450
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not half, full inheritance rights.

451
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Ephesians 1.1 says, in love, he predestined us for adoption to sonship through Jesus Christ

452
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and according with his pleasure.

453
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And then in Isaiah 43, since you

454
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who are precious and honored in my sight,

455
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and because I love you, I give people in exchange for you,

456
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nations in exchange for your life.

457
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And Luke 12, indeed, the very hairs on your head

458
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are numbered, don't be afraid,

459
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you are worth more than the sparrows.

460
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And so, I hope that that is just starting

461
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to chuggle your brain, and while you're thinking

462
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about this topic, I'm gonna pass the baton back to Annette,

463
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because she has been bravely willing to share something,

464
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so this is what she's gonna share,

465
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is anything where she's had an orphan mentality,

466
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not really believing in that inheritance,

467
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or a limiting belief in any area of her life,

468
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where she might have been begging

469
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versus knowing that she belongs.

470
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So, I'm gonna pass it, you were prepared for this,

471
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right, Annette?

472
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Sure, I'm prepared.

473
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Hey, and you know what?

474
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If you don't wanna use that prompt,

475
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feel free to tag onto the trauma, lies, or masquerade,

476
00:31:02.500 --> 00:31:04.980
anything that resonated with you just now.

477
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No, and actually, I go in, thank you, Renee,

478
00:31:08.180 --> 00:31:13.180
but I actually go in to each session,

479
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asking God what he wants me to share,

480
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so that it's his words, not my words,

481
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because something that I might say,

482
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might have said five weeks ago,

483
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would be different for the group that's hearing it tonight,

484
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because we can't ever go back and recreate tonight,

485
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and so everybody's here, we're listening,

486
00:31:35.820 --> 00:31:38.140
for a reason, and God's gonna use it.

487
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So, I try and do something fresh.

488
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I try and find new, fresh problems,

489
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and insights, and struggles to share.

490
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So, there's always plenty.

491
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Anyway, one of the things that I noticed,

492
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that came to the surface tonight,

493
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when I was asking Holy Spirit what to talk about,

494
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was the word begging really hit me,

495
00:32:02.340 --> 00:32:05.120
and for years, in my prayer life,

496
00:32:05.980 --> 00:32:10.980
I felt like I was begging God to do what I wanted him to do.

497
00:32:11.020 --> 00:32:14.140
Oh, please, oh, please, oh, please, I wanna get married,

498
00:32:14.140 --> 00:32:17.660
or oh, please, oh, please, can I have this?

499
00:32:17.660 --> 00:32:20.060
Really a begging mentality,

500
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that I was going to have to perform,

501
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or be good enough, or say the right things,

502
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or serve long enough,

503
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and if I didn't get what I had begged for,

504
00:32:32.340 --> 00:32:36.300
then my assumption was, well, I didn't do something right,

505
00:32:36.300 --> 00:32:41.220
I didn't earn it, I didn't say the right thing,

506
00:32:41.220 --> 00:32:44.320
I didn't serve, I didn't give enough,

507
00:32:44.320 --> 00:32:47.460
and when I was delivered of that mindset,

508
00:32:48.300 --> 00:32:50.980
and learned and grew in my prayer life,

509
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which I will say, the prayer calls from this program,

510
00:32:55.700 --> 00:32:58.780
and being on those, and listening to women pray,

511
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and pray from really a place of power and of victory,

512
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because victory is already ours,

513
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no matter what circumstances look like,

514
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because of whose we are, and who we serve,

515
00:33:13.140 --> 00:33:18.140
we come before him, we're righteous, we're holy,

516
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we are dearly loved,

517
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he even knows the number of hairs on our head,

518
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and there's nothing that we can do,

519
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that's going to make him love us more or less,

520
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and that gives you a lot of confidence,

521
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when you can come into agreement with those realizations,

522
00:33:37.900 --> 00:33:40.340
and then when you're praying, realize,

523
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you're praying and you're talking to somebody,

524
00:33:43.180 --> 00:33:45.780
whose love for you, you cannot even fathom,

525
00:33:46.900 --> 00:33:48.780
you can't put words to it,

526
00:33:48.780 --> 00:33:52.220
we can't, he loves us more than we can imagine,

527
00:33:52.220 --> 00:33:56.900
and so for me, a big shift happened,

528
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when I came into just praying,

529
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from a heart of gratitude and gratefulness,

530
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for all that God has done, and has given me,

531
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and even things that he hasn't given me yet,

532
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and if he doesn't, I know that everything he does for me,

533
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comes from a heart of love,

534
00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:18.560
not of performance or have tos,

535
00:34:18.560 --> 00:34:21.719
and so that has been really freeing to me,

536
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to be able to just rest in that,

537
00:34:26.600 --> 00:34:29.320
and pray from that space of victory,

538
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and knowing that God wants to give me good gifts,

539
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and he wants to provide for me,

540
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he just needs the posture of my heart,

541
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to be the heart that he's designed for me,

542
00:34:41.639 --> 00:34:46.320
not a heart that trauma, or pain,

543
00:34:46.320 --> 00:34:49.199
or resentment, or unforgiveness has shaped,

544
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but that he has shaped,

545
00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:55.520
and he continues to shape daily in my life,

546
00:34:55.520 --> 00:34:58.520
it's a daily thing, abiding in Christ,

547
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and so,

548
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Those were the words that I had for you tonight that were my my experience with prayer and what God has really shown me of

549
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Who I am in him and because of him and his sacrifice for me

550
00:35:14.240 --> 00:35:18.480
So Renee now you can take it away again. Awesome

551
00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:23.120
Okay. So before we go off to our breakout, so I'm gonna put three in a group

552
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I'm gonna give you the prompt question in a second and please say in that group

553
00:35:27.760 --> 00:35:31.320
What I do is I can tell if people join the group or not

554
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So sometimes people are driving and they feel like I can't get in a breakout group. So if I see somebody alone and

555
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:41.640
Nobody else shows up. I am gonna move you to another group

556
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So I'm not gonna but if people jump out and come back in here that I can't do that

557
00:35:46.200 --> 00:35:48.040
So give it at least two minutes

558
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I usually don't count the first couple of minutes towards your speaking time

559
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Because I realize I'm trying to shuffle people in and some people get bumped out and they come back in and if you do get

560
00:35:58.480 --> 00:36:03.080
Bumped out try to pay attention to who's in your room or the room number you have

561
00:36:03.080 --> 00:36:05.800
So if you get bumped out and you come back in you can be like hey

562
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I was in room two or I was with so-and-so and so-and-so. Can I get back in and I'll send you back in

563
00:36:12.520 --> 00:36:17.600
But I do want to make sure that I hold space for any clarifying questions

564
00:36:17.640 --> 00:36:22.920
Because sometimes I don't want you to go to a breakout room going what the heck did she mean by that and everyone's like

565
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:24.680
Oh

566
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So was there anything I said that you're all like, okay

567
00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:33.760
Can you explain that because I wasn't jive it so and I want to offer that

568
00:36:35.040 --> 00:36:38.720
Okay. Well, it sounds like you guys already know what to do. So, let's see we have

569
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Third is a c36

570
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All my visions

571
00:36:45.040 --> 00:36:50.440
I don't told you I had a really bad eye problem and late at night or at 31st about 32

572
00:36:51.120 --> 00:36:56.800
37 3 what is it? What does it say? Oh, it's no. Sorry. I thought you said the time there's 34

573
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There's 34 minus you and I that's 32

574
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So it's about three

575
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Per groups about 10 groups. Okay, then some are gonna have

576
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Okay

577
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For those of you that are watching it online

578
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We have just started the recording back waiting for everybody to come on back

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So as everyone is coming on back if you are watching this in replay my challenge to you to stay connected

580
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:29.240
So that question that we asked everybody which is what really resonated with you tonight?

581
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What are some of the lies that you've been believing?

582
00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:34.360
What are some of the masks that you've been wearing?

583
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:39.320
Feel free to put your answer to that into the chat and let the coaches respond

584
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:42.080
Let your other ladies in the community respond

585
00:37:42.080 --> 00:37:48.920
And so if you're watching in replay and you're not responding in your app then and if you're not feeling connected

586
00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:51.620
That's why that's the best way for you to get connected

587
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:57.000
We're gonna continue to let everybody come on in I

588
00:37:58.120 --> 00:38:01.960
Hope and believe I forgot to give you guys the one minute warning

589
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I just realized I'm like, oh my gosh, it's time to bring him back. I hope that your conversation was fruitful and

590
00:38:09.120 --> 00:38:11.880
Now it's time for you guys to share

591
00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:18.120
Whatever you want to share and just just be powerful. You don't need to give us the nitty-gritty

592
00:38:19.160 --> 00:38:22.400
The details of what you shared stays with the group, right?

593
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:26.600
So what was shared in the group stays in the group unless you want to share it

594
00:38:26.600 --> 00:38:32.560
So it's your story to share and I know it takes somebody super brave to go first and then all sudden more people want him

595
00:38:32.560 --> 00:38:34.280
So who is my brave?

596
00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:35.680
girl

597
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That's gonna go first. Is it Glenna? I love that Glenna. You're up

598
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:48.280
Glenna you're muted

599
00:38:50.240 --> 00:38:52.760
Oops, okay. There you go. I'm sorry

600
00:38:52.760 --> 00:38:57.840
I started in this program in January and you know, it's taken me a while

601
00:38:57.840 --> 00:39:02.560
but I'm almost finished with phase one, but I can honestly say that

602
00:39:04.680 --> 00:39:06.680
It's been life-changing

603
00:39:06.680 --> 00:39:14.640
and I had been in therapy after my divorce for about 10 years and I feel this last year that I

604
00:39:14.640 --> 00:39:15.880
have

605
00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:19.160
received more healing in one year than ten and

606
00:39:19.280 --> 00:39:25.000
And because it's dealing with the heart issues and the revealing and I

607
00:39:26.920 --> 00:39:28.360
Literally

608
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:35.920
God revealed things to me that happened to me when I was a child and I just kind of stuffed him down like oh

609
00:39:36.920 --> 00:39:40.840
you know got through that just move on, you know, and I'm a

610
00:39:41.880 --> 00:39:45.040
Real strong type a personality. I own

611
00:39:45.600 --> 00:39:51.360
My own business I'm in construction so, you know, you got to be a tough woman to be in construction, right?

612
00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:55.320
I'm laughing at that. But um, but

613
00:39:56.440 --> 00:39:58.440
it's just I

614
00:39:58.680 --> 00:40:00.680
Think I was on that

615
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:06.560
performance ladder for so long, and I always believed the lies that I wasn't good enough.

616
00:40:09.840 --> 00:40:16.880
Through doing this heart work, and I've gone back and repeated chapters and parts of it,

617
00:40:16.880 --> 00:40:22.640
and I printed the whole book out and highlighted it and wrote everything, and I have two journals

618
00:40:22.640 --> 00:40:28.480
full of notes from all the sessions, and I go back and read them. But I just want to say thank

619
00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:35.760
you. Thank you to Jackie and the whole community, but also anybody in this group. Just keep on

620
00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:43.280
working through it. Don't give up. You are, God has made you uniquely special for who you are,

621
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and I just want to just encourage everybody, and I haven't arrived. I'm still journeying,

622
00:40:51.680 --> 00:40:57.600
going through the program, but thank you. Awesome. Hey, Glenna, okay, so you said,

623
00:40:58.080 --> 00:41:02.560
that wasn't a typo. You said you've been here since January, so you've been with us for 12

624
00:41:02.560 --> 00:41:08.240
months doing the heart work. I just wanted to make sure. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, yeah. I'll tell you what,

625
00:41:08.240 --> 00:41:12.480
that's good to hear, because sometimes when we have somebody who's been in the program that long

626
00:41:12.480 --> 00:41:17.680
that hasn't journeyed on, sometimes we're like, should we let them stay in the program? Like,

627
00:41:17.680 --> 00:41:25.120
what's going on there? And I just love that you just validated that just some people are going

628
00:41:25.120 --> 00:41:30.080
to go at the pace that they're going to go at, and we've never, you guys, we've never kicked

629
00:41:30.080 --> 00:41:33.920
anybody out, but there have been times we're like, are they still getting something out of it? And so

630
00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:38.240
I love that you've just continued to go at your pace, and you guys, the heart work, I said this

631
00:41:38.240 --> 00:41:42.720
last week, the heart work never ends. That's why Annette said to you she was waiting for what the

632
00:41:42.720 --> 00:41:45.920
Holy Spirit was going to reveal to her, because her answer today would have been different than

633
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:50.960
it was four weeks ago, and that's true for me too, and I would say both of us have now come

634
00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:54.720
on the other side, and we're both married, but we can both tell you that life's not perfect,

635
00:41:54.720 --> 00:41:59.520
our marriage isn't perfect, and all the lies that we used to believe doesn't just suddenly go poof,

636
00:41:59.520 --> 00:42:04.640
and sometimes they might show up in a new way married. Right. And so thank you for being honest

637
00:42:04.640 --> 00:42:10.640
about that, Glenna, and I'm just so happy to hear that, and as Tiffany said, your countenance looks

638
00:42:10.640 --> 00:42:17.600
different. Y'all, when hearts get healed, the lies get lifted, and your true personality comes

639
00:42:17.600 --> 00:42:22.080
through. So many people have been saying like, oh my gosh, Renee, you just glow now, and like,

640
00:42:22.080 --> 00:42:27.520
I'd like to, you know, say it's water and good skin care, but, and it might be it, but it's also

641
00:42:27.520 --> 00:42:33.200
that, you know, heart healing does that too. You just, you look different. Okay, Chrissy, you are up.

642
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Unmute. Oh yeah, go ahead, girl. You got it. Okay. So first, when we were talking before, and I

643
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:50.880
mentioned this in the group, I thought I had hit enter, but I didn't when I typed into the chat.

644
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:56.320
I was just getting deja vu as you were talking, and then even when Annette was talking, and I was

645
00:42:56.320 --> 00:43:04.240
like, have I, is this a replay? Have I already been here? But I think the thing that stuck out

646
00:43:04.240 --> 00:43:13.040
with me was the compartmentalizing, but as we were talking in the group, and then reading some of

647
00:43:13.040 --> 00:43:20.720
these comments here, there's the lies that I was believing, they have to do with rejection.

648
00:43:21.920 --> 00:43:30.080
So that's why I compartmentalize, because I need to put on whatever mask is going to keep those

649
00:43:30.080 --> 00:43:40.720
people around, like a dancing monkey. That's how I felt. I think, looking back on my life,

650
00:43:40.720 --> 00:43:47.600
I think that's how I felt, like I'm just always, always performing and not the way I would like to.

651
00:43:50.000 --> 00:43:57.040
So. Thank you for sharing that. Or do you feel like you can start to come into

652
00:43:57.040 --> 00:44:01.280
agreement that these are lies and start to replace it with the truth? Like,

653
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:05.040
are you feeling some of that breakthrough beginning to happen?

654
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:14.800
Yes, for sure, because I had started this program in September, but really didn't do anything, like,

655
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:21.280
except for the prayer calls, I didn't do anything with most of it, just because my heart was so hard.

656
00:44:23.200 --> 00:44:29.520
But now, yeah, I can feel it. I can feel the difference, and I can

657
00:44:30.080 --> 00:44:36.480
catch it quicker. That's so good. You guys, we now have the luxury of chat GBT and Google,

658
00:44:36.480 --> 00:44:41.200
even though I'm worried that Skynet is coming and Terminator is coming faster than I want it to.

659
00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:48.000
It is really a good way for us to find out how to replace lies with the truth. So if you put in,

660
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:55.040
you can, like, what is the truth that the Bible says about not being valuable,

661
00:44:55.040 --> 00:44:59.760
not being worthy, and scripture will actually come up and give you.

662
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:06.360
And so, now that the new year is going to be upon us, Brian and I are going to be taking

663
00:45:06.360 --> 00:45:12.320
foods off the plate that we've been indulging in in the last few months.

664
00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:16.880
And so, usually, if I'm taking out chocolate cake, I've got to replace it with something

665
00:45:16.880 --> 00:45:17.880
else.

666
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:20.240
Like, I don't know, I've got to enjoy strawberries or something.

667
00:45:20.240 --> 00:45:24.920
And so, we don't want to just, a lot of you are sharing what some of the lies are and

668
00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:25.920
some of the things.

669
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:28.920
I want you to start to also do what the truth is.

670
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:35.120
Like, so, those are the lies, literally Google, what does God's truth say about those lies?

671
00:45:35.120 --> 00:45:39.920
And start putting post-its of those truths, like, literally all over and start declaring

672
00:45:39.920 --> 00:45:42.120
them out loud.

673
00:45:42.120 --> 00:45:44.280
The enemy, remember, cannot read your mind.

674
00:45:44.280 --> 00:45:50.200
So, you have been saying out loud and living those lies a long time, he has to know you

675
00:45:50.200 --> 00:45:51.200
mean business.

676
00:45:51.200 --> 00:45:54.360
So, you have to say out loud what the truth is.

677
00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:55.360
Okay.

678
00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:56.360
Eloise, you're next.

679
00:45:56.360 --> 00:45:57.360
Okay.

680
00:45:57.360 --> 00:46:11.200
So, Ms. Renee, or Mrs. Renee, so, you said over a week ago, when you were doing one of

681
00:46:11.200 --> 00:46:17.800
the prayer calls, somebody said something, and I think I've already mentioned this before,

682
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:26.520
but you said, so, do you know, when's the first time that you experienced that scarcity?

683
00:46:26.520 --> 00:46:32.480
And that word was like a word I'd never quite connected me to.

684
00:46:32.480 --> 00:46:41.320
And so, I said to myself, from the womb, my mother didn't want me, I knew it from the

685
00:46:41.320 --> 00:46:42.320
womb.

686
00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:47.120
I got, you know, all kinds of freedom sessions and stuff like that.

687
00:46:47.120 --> 00:46:57.240
And so, I started, my medication was numbing out.

688
00:46:57.240 --> 00:46:59.600
And I'm still battling with that.

689
00:46:59.600 --> 00:47:04.760
But I didn't realize for the longest that I was cutting out the crummy stuff, but I

690
00:47:04.760 --> 00:47:11.480
was also cutting out the possibility of the good stuff, because I was just staying stuck.

691
00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:16.080
And so, this is so exciting to me.

692
00:47:16.080 --> 00:47:21.840
I've been in it May, a year ago, and so have struggled.

693
00:47:21.840 --> 00:47:27.160
And I'm like, you know, numbed out and then would get back into it.

694
00:47:27.160 --> 00:47:36.800
And you know, 2026, my word for the year is abundance, not scarcity.

695
00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:41.680
And so, abundance in every way is coming.

696
00:47:41.680 --> 00:47:48.120
And the lives that I've believed, like my mother told me when I was a teenager, she

697
00:47:48.120 --> 00:47:52.920
said, I hope you never get married, so you don't have to go through the pain I've gone

698
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:55.120
through.

699
00:47:55.120 --> 00:47:57.600
And I was like, what pain are you going through?

700
00:47:57.600 --> 00:48:02.960
I mean, she never shared, she never, you know, but she didn't want me to date.

701
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:05.320
And that just hung over.

702
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:10.360
And even though I've had, you know, freedom sessions and all that stuff, I mean, this

703
00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:12.640
heart work is just killer.

704
00:48:12.640 --> 00:48:19.680
I'll tell you what, it's, I have cried out for this kind of help and breakthrough and

705
00:48:19.680 --> 00:48:22.400
all that my whole life.

706
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:31.400
And when I connected on YouTube, and found Jackie, I was like, man, Lord, this is no

707
00:48:31.400 --> 00:48:32.960
accident.

708
00:48:32.960 --> 00:48:38.880
So I'm going ahead, I'm moving forward.

709
00:48:38.880 --> 00:48:41.600
The enemy is such a liar.

710
00:48:41.600 --> 00:48:49.040
And he's been found out and I am moving forward and those lies, I'm looking up chat GBT for

711
00:48:49.040 --> 00:48:50.520
the truth.

712
00:48:50.520 --> 00:48:56.600
And I'm going to put it on anything that standing up a door, a wall or whatever, you know, my

713
00:48:56.600 --> 00:49:00.380
forehead, you know, it's time.

714
00:49:00.380 --> 00:49:02.000
It's time.

715
00:49:02.000 --> 00:49:03.000
I love it, girl.

716
00:49:03.000 --> 00:49:04.000
It is.

717
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:09.240
You know, guys, I know the post, I think sounds so silly, but like, I did it for a long time.

718
00:49:09.240 --> 00:49:12.880
And it's so funny because Mel Robbins has you do something else, which I think is really

719
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:13.880
funny.

720
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:17.740
She said, do this for like a week and see if you feel better about yourself.

721
00:49:17.740 --> 00:49:22.040
In the mirror, give yourself a high five every morning and say something nice about yourself.

722
00:49:22.040 --> 00:49:24.280
Like, oh my gosh, Renee, you look amazing.

723
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:26.640
Like give yourself a high five.

724
00:49:26.640 --> 00:49:31.400
And you know, when you're single without kids, no one's like, you guys, I can go all morning

725
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:33.360
when I was single and nobody would talk to me.

726
00:49:33.720 --> 00:49:37.280
Like, literally the first person I would talk to was in class or on my job.

727
00:49:37.280 --> 00:49:40.760
And so like someone's got to pep yourself up in the morning.

728
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:43.040
And so I love the idea of post-its.

729
00:49:43.040 --> 00:49:47.240
Remember, it's this idea of you guys looking at the thing.

730
00:49:47.240 --> 00:49:50.520
It's like archery with a bullseye.

731
00:49:50.520 --> 00:49:54.320
You're never going to hit the bullseye if you don't put your eye on the bullseye.

732
00:49:54.320 --> 00:49:58.720
If you keep staring at where the arrow goes when you miss, you're never going to hit the

733
00:49:58.720 --> 00:49:59.720
bullseye.

734
00:49:59.720 --> 00:50:00.220
So you always have to.

735
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:01.560
to be looking towards the truth,

736
00:50:01.560 --> 00:50:03.180
looking towards the right thing.

737
00:50:03.180 --> 00:50:06.060
Because what we don't want you to do is unpack these lies

738
00:50:06.060 --> 00:50:08.840
and then wallow in the lies.

739
00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:10.880
We wanna unpack them to get past it.

740
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:11.720
So awesome.

741
00:50:11.720 --> 00:50:13.040
Sarah, you are up.

742
00:50:14.200 --> 00:50:15.100
Thank you.

743
00:50:17.520 --> 00:50:20.520
We had an amazing group.

744
00:50:20.520 --> 00:50:23.480
A couple of things that stood out to me was two of us,

745
00:50:23.480 --> 00:50:26.080
we definitely identified with the pretender.

746
00:50:26.120 --> 00:50:30.720
We talked about putting masks up for self-protection,

747
00:50:30.720 --> 00:50:34.240
especially in past religious settings that we've been in.

748
00:50:34.240 --> 00:50:37.760
So when I say religious, not, yeah, spirit-filled.

749
00:50:38.640 --> 00:50:41.600
And then a couple of us also identified

750
00:50:41.600 --> 00:50:44.200
with the puzzle side of things

751
00:50:44.200 --> 00:50:48.240
and romantically having interactions with someone,

752
00:50:48.240 --> 00:50:50.560
which was definitely more of either,

753
00:50:50.560 --> 00:50:52.560
what would you call it, a trial,

754
00:50:52.560 --> 00:50:53.960
obviously not a God set up,

755
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:56.440
it was like to get you up and above it.

756
00:50:56.440 --> 00:50:58.120
And I think for me,

757
00:50:58.120 --> 00:51:00.240
the biggest thing that really stood out was,

758
00:51:00.240 --> 00:51:02.280
it's like, at least for me,

759
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:04.560
but the romantic setup and then one of the other ladies

760
00:51:04.560 --> 00:51:07.000
is like, wow, God is protecting us

761
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:10.400
and we think we know what we want, but we actually don't.

762
00:51:10.400 --> 00:51:12.600
And like this last guy I went through a trial with,

763
00:51:12.600 --> 00:51:15.280
it was like, my body and heart knew

764
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:16.960
I didn't want anything to do with him,

765
00:51:16.960 --> 00:51:18.880
but my mind was somewhere else.

766
00:51:18.880 --> 00:51:20.760
And I was like, so humbled.

767
00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:22.960
I just can't even, yeah.

768
00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:26.360
I don't even know how to put words to it,

769
00:51:27.560 --> 00:51:29.760
but yeah, that was kind of what came out

770
00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:31.280
from our group discussion.

771
00:51:34.040 --> 00:51:35.320
So good, so good.

772
00:51:35.320 --> 00:51:36.840
So many good nuggets there.

773
00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:40.840
I love, I didn't discuss the puzzle thing enough

774
00:51:40.840 --> 00:51:41.960
and I apologize for that.

775
00:51:41.960 --> 00:51:43.560
So I'm glad that you guys still were able

776
00:51:43.560 --> 00:51:46.080
to go with that in the conversation.

777
00:51:46.080 --> 00:51:48.000
And the other thing that you were talking about too,

778
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:50.200
like you guys, just to give you a heads up,

779
00:51:50.200 --> 00:51:52.480
like as you go through,

780
00:51:52.520 --> 00:51:54.840
like Jackie always says, hurt in relationship,

781
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:56.240
healed in relationship.

782
00:51:56.240 --> 00:51:58.680
So some of the healing that you're gonna do

783
00:51:58.680 --> 00:52:02.360
in the heart work, you can only do so much of it single.

784
00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:04.400
And then it's not gonna be until you get

785
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:06.360
into your healthier relationships

786
00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:08.880
or as you move your way through relationships,

787
00:52:08.880 --> 00:52:11.520
you're gonna get more healing with each relationship.

788
00:52:11.520 --> 00:52:14.840
So you don't end the heart work and meet your first guy

789
00:52:14.840 --> 00:52:16.160
and bam, it all works.

790
00:52:16.160 --> 00:52:19.640
Like it might, and amen, if that's what happens to you,

791
00:52:19.640 --> 00:52:21.960
but you might find that God's gonna allow you

792
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:24.320
to go through a couple of different relationships

793
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:27.560
to kind of practice this new healing

794
00:52:27.560 --> 00:52:29.800
and you're gonna go further each time.

795
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:33.720
And so, I mean, golly, the person I dated

796
00:52:33.720 --> 00:52:36.920
about a year before Brian, my husband,

797
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:40.320
y'all, he was like probably the worst relationship

798
00:52:40.320 --> 00:52:41.480
I ever had, really.

799
00:52:41.480 --> 00:52:44.640
I mean, it was almost embarrassing how I as a leader

800
00:52:44.640 --> 00:52:47.080
allowed myself to date such a bozo.

801
00:52:47.080 --> 00:52:50.320
I mean, he looked like perfect man on campus,

802
00:52:50.440 --> 00:52:52.560
checked all the boxes.

803
00:52:53.760 --> 00:52:56.600
But because I was God defended and not Renee defended

804
00:52:56.600 --> 00:52:58.680
and because I was able to not believe,

805
00:52:58.680 --> 00:53:01.560
cause he started to nip at my lies,

806
00:53:01.560 --> 00:53:03.000
cause he read my book,

807
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:05.520
learned about some of my early childhood trauma.

808
00:53:05.520 --> 00:53:09.000
So he, it was like the enemy just gave him all the blanket,

809
00:53:09.000 --> 00:53:11.600
like access to all the lies

810
00:53:11.600 --> 00:53:13.120
and just start to get them triggered.

811
00:53:13.120 --> 00:53:15.600
So this is all just practice.

812
00:53:15.600 --> 00:53:16.960
And so some of you are gonna be like,

813
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:18.360
oh my gosh, I have to do heart work again

814
00:53:18.360 --> 00:53:19.200
in this relationship.

815
00:53:19.280 --> 00:53:20.120
Yeah, you will.

816
00:53:20.120 --> 00:53:21.480
Like, it's all good.

817
00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:23.040
Like new things might come up,

818
00:53:23.040 --> 00:53:24.800
new revealing is gonna happen

819
00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:26.760
and it's like peeling an onion.

820
00:53:26.760 --> 00:53:29.960
So whenever like old triggers and old lies come back,

821
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:30.800
don't sit there and say,

822
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:32.440
why am I dealing with this lie again?

823
00:53:32.440 --> 00:53:35.920
Go like, okay, God, what's the new thing you're showing me

824
00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:38.600
that I can now receive the next layer of

825
00:53:38.600 --> 00:53:41.040
and the next layer of.

826
00:53:41.040 --> 00:53:42.440
Sarah, another Sarah.

827
00:53:42.440 --> 00:53:43.800
Awesome, you are up.

828
00:53:50.040 --> 00:53:51.120
You're still muted.

829
00:53:58.720 --> 00:53:59.640
Okay, got it.

830
00:53:59.640 --> 00:54:03.040
Oh, pressure, anxiety.

831
00:54:03.040 --> 00:54:03.880
All right.

832
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:06.040
Thank you.

833
00:54:06.040 --> 00:54:07.080
Nice to meet you, Renee.

834
00:54:07.080 --> 00:54:10.840
Nice to have you taking Bethany's spot tonight

835
00:54:10.840 --> 00:54:14.600
and getting a lot of good insight from you.

836
00:54:14.600 --> 00:54:16.400
That's really interesting what you were mentioning

837
00:54:16.560 --> 00:54:19.640
and like he was using that to manipulate you.

838
00:54:19.640 --> 00:54:20.680
Is that what you were saying?

839
00:54:20.680 --> 00:54:22.000
Because that's actually something

840
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:24.000
that I was talking about in my group.

841
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:26.400
And so I would love to hear how you dealt with that

842
00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:29.720
because I am in currently something.

843
00:54:29.720 --> 00:54:30.760
It's very regretful,

844
00:54:30.760 --> 00:54:33.000
but I'm being manipulated left and right

845
00:54:33.000 --> 00:54:38.000
and it's really hard and scary and I don't like it.

846
00:54:40.800 --> 00:54:42.360
So when we were talking about the book,

847
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:43.400
I was like, oh my gosh,

848
00:54:43.520 --> 00:54:44.360
I don't like it.

849
00:54:45.480 --> 00:54:47.880
Well, I don't know.

850
00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:49.760
I don't know the details of your story,

851
00:54:49.760 --> 00:54:52.760
but if somebody is being unsafe and unhealthy,

852
00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:54.040
you need to exit.

853
00:54:54.920 --> 00:54:55.760
You need to safely exit.

854
00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:59.640
I don't quite know how because we go to the same church

855
00:54:59.640 --> 00:55:00.480
and I...

856
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.620
And I don't know if I'm manipulating him too.

857
00:55:02.620 --> 00:55:04.420
I mean, I'm not trying to, but I'm,

858
00:55:04.420 --> 00:55:07.520
I don't know if we're just like, if it's our, like,

859
00:55:07.520 --> 00:55:12.520
I really don't know what, but I'm just like, I, yeah.

860
00:55:14.520 --> 00:55:17.000
The biggest excuse you can give right now, Sarah,

861
00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:19.360
is technically you're not supposed to be dating

862
00:55:19.360 --> 00:55:20.440
while in the heart work.

863
00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:21.280
That's our recommendation.

864
00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:22.240
Right, and we're not.

865
00:55:22.240 --> 00:55:24.340
We're not dating, that's true.

866
00:55:24.340 --> 00:55:26.320
But I, like I said, I kind of like,

867
00:55:26.320 --> 00:55:27.660
like about a year and a half ago,

868
00:55:27.660 --> 00:55:30.100
I kind of was like inquiring about his,

869
00:55:30.100 --> 00:55:31.500
like not his age directly,

870
00:55:31.500 --> 00:55:34.140
but just kind of trying to see a little bit more about,

871
00:55:34.140 --> 00:55:35.900
get to know a little bit more about him.

872
00:55:35.900 --> 00:55:38.380
And, and then that door opened

873
00:55:38.380 --> 00:55:39.820
and I haven't been able to close it.

874
00:55:39.820 --> 00:55:41.500
And I think he feels rejected.

875
00:55:41.500 --> 00:55:43.780
So he's just pulling out all the stops,

876
00:55:43.780 --> 00:55:46.380
but I'm trying to like gracefully kind of like,

877
00:55:46.380 --> 00:55:48.180
you know, step back,

878
00:55:48.180 --> 00:55:50.340
but he keeps doing things to manipulate me.

879
00:55:50.340 --> 00:55:52.260
And I keep feeding into that.

880
00:55:52.260 --> 00:55:54.940
And so I was wondering like, how, how did you?

881
00:55:54.940 --> 00:55:57.580
So sometimes when you have,

882
00:55:57.580 --> 00:56:00.100
when you are not strong enough yourself,

883
00:56:00.100 --> 00:56:02.860
you have to put up barriers to protect you,

884
00:56:02.860 --> 00:56:06.100
whether that's block their email, block their phone number,

885
00:56:07.140 --> 00:56:09.700
don't be alone with them in church settings,

886
00:56:09.700 --> 00:56:12.580
have people that are going to be on your buddy's system.

887
00:56:14.580 --> 00:56:15.500
And so that's what you,

888
00:56:15.500 --> 00:56:19.020
you have to do what's going to help you feel safe.

889
00:56:19.020 --> 00:56:23.620
And, and so don't give them that power over you.

890
00:56:23.980 --> 00:56:26.100
Like block his phone number, block his email.

891
00:56:26.100 --> 00:56:28.340
Those are the two easiest things to do right now.

892
00:56:28.340 --> 00:56:30.260
And I, yeah, and I don't have those.

893
00:56:30.260 --> 00:56:32.300
Go to a different church service,

894
00:56:33.300 --> 00:56:35.180
sit with people that you trust,

895
00:56:35.180 --> 00:56:38.460
visit another church for the next month if you have to.

896
00:56:38.460 --> 00:56:39.900
Like, I hate to say it, you guys,

897
00:56:39.900 --> 00:56:41.380
I've had to leave companies.

898
00:56:41.380 --> 00:56:43.860
Like if I felt like I was not safe with somebody,

899
00:56:43.860 --> 00:56:44.980
I had to leave.

900
00:56:44.980 --> 00:56:48.220
And like with that person, like when we eventually,

901
00:56:48.220 --> 00:56:49.900
like when I eventually ended it with him,

902
00:56:49.900 --> 00:56:51.500
I literally changed my locks.

903
00:56:51.500 --> 00:56:56.060
I've never changed my locks on anybody my entire life,

904
00:56:56.060 --> 00:56:57.300
changed my locks.

905
00:56:57.300 --> 00:57:00.700
So like changed with a passcode to get my building.

906
00:57:01.700 --> 00:57:03.140
I told certain people.

907
00:57:03.140 --> 00:57:05.020
And so I made sure,

908
00:57:05.020 --> 00:57:08.020
I just made sure I was safe and never alone with that person.

909
00:57:08.020 --> 00:57:10.420
And like when he wanted all his stuff back and all,

910
00:57:10.420 --> 00:57:12.740
whatever, like my sister literally intervened

911
00:57:12.740 --> 00:57:15.980
and like finished the last few conversations with him.

912
00:57:15.980 --> 00:57:19.420
So saying you have somebody who it can protect you,

913
00:57:19.420 --> 00:57:22.300
you need to let them speak to her, him.

914
00:57:22.300 --> 00:57:23.820
And if it's within the church,

915
00:57:23.820 --> 00:57:26.660
if he's doing this behavior in the church,

916
00:57:26.660 --> 00:57:29.820
then you need to tell somebody on leadership in the church

917
00:57:29.820 --> 00:57:32.260
so that he maintains his boundaries.

918
00:57:32.260 --> 00:57:36.780
So you need somebody in authority to talk over to him

919
00:57:36.780 --> 00:57:38.460
to put that boundary in place.

920
00:57:38.460 --> 00:57:42.420
So those are just some of my very short term suggestions.

921
00:57:42.420 --> 00:57:44.460
I really appreciate you sharing that though,

922
00:57:44.460 --> 00:57:45.300
because that was really vulnerable.

923
00:57:45.300 --> 00:57:46.940
I appreciate your feedback.

924
00:57:46.940 --> 00:57:50.300
And I know it's a short feedback and a very big story.

925
00:57:50.300 --> 00:57:52.860
So I'll be praying for you to feel empowered

926
00:57:52.860 --> 00:57:54.780
to get the help you need

927
00:57:54.780 --> 00:57:57.620
to get an army around you to protect you.

928
00:57:57.620 --> 00:57:58.700
Thank you very much.

929
00:57:58.700 --> 00:57:59.940
You bet, sweetie.

930
00:57:59.940 --> 00:58:01.740
All right, who else would like to share?

931
00:58:01.740 --> 00:58:03.420
Anybody else want to share?

932
00:58:04.460 --> 00:58:05.300
Joy.

933
00:58:08.020 --> 00:58:09.820
Yes, yeah.

934
00:58:09.820 --> 00:58:13.220
So I'm sorry, my computer, this old computer,

935
00:58:13.220 --> 00:58:14.980
the video could not turn on.

936
00:58:14.980 --> 00:58:16.620
I'm so sorry.

937
00:58:17.460 --> 00:58:19.020
So if you don't mind.

938
00:58:19.020 --> 00:58:20.900
You're good, keep going, girl.

939
00:58:20.900 --> 00:58:22.700
All right, thank you so much.

940
00:58:22.700 --> 00:58:27.700
All right, so I was talking to my partner

941
00:58:28.220 --> 00:58:29.940
in the back room about,

942
00:58:29.940 --> 00:58:34.300
I think something related to me is about the puzzle.

943
00:58:34.300 --> 00:58:39.300
Is that puzzle, you know what I mean, right?

944
00:58:40.260 --> 00:58:45.260
So if my heart is in different state,

945
00:58:46.220 --> 00:58:49.380
but I have to say something else, pretend.

946
00:58:49.380 --> 00:58:50.580
It's all pretend.

947
00:58:50.580 --> 00:58:55.580
So I'm kind of mixed up with the pretend and the puzzle.

948
00:58:56.300 --> 00:59:00.420
And so the situation is that I'm in your church.

949
00:59:01.700 --> 00:59:06.700
And this church is, they changed the location.

950
00:59:07.780 --> 00:59:09.340
They moved to another location.

951
00:59:09.340 --> 00:59:10.900
So I kind of left that church.

952
00:59:10.900 --> 00:59:14.620
I went to another church, it's G church.

953
00:59:14.660 --> 00:59:19.660
So in that church, I really, God used me a lot.

954
00:59:19.900 --> 00:59:23.100
Now it seems that the old church want me back.

955
00:59:23.100 --> 00:59:25.500
So I was kind of in between.

956
00:59:25.500 --> 00:59:30.060
And so I don't, how to, I don't want to hurt people.

957
00:59:30.060 --> 00:59:32.780
So I pretend, sometimes I feel so tired.

958
00:59:33.780 --> 00:59:35.260
I go to two churches.

959
00:59:35.260 --> 00:59:40.260
So, and the G church, I really, some area I flourish.

960
00:59:40.700 --> 00:59:45.340
And, but also the old church is more matched

961
00:59:45.340 --> 00:59:47.780
with my calling and destiny.

962
00:59:47.780 --> 00:59:52.260
Even the pastor before hurt me and wounded me.

963
00:59:54.100 --> 00:59:57.740
But now they more growing and more mature.

964
00:59:57.740 --> 01:00:00.180
So, so I kind of,

965
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:10.240
kind of um do not know how to to handle this situation of course thank you for the sister

966
01:00:10.240 --> 01:00:16.480
pray for me uh have a clarity and have god's grace if god want me temporary to be two churches

967
01:00:17.200 --> 01:00:23.680
and then god's grace will cover me otherwise when so i have to choose one church and then i will

968
01:00:23.680 --> 01:00:31.360
ask god to prepare people's heart if i'm leave if i stay with g church my old church also they

969
01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:37.680
will have heart prepare that i will not coming back so basically i'm peacemaker person i love

970
01:00:37.680 --> 01:00:45.600
i do not want to hurt anybody so i more like to have peace with people i don't want to hurt people

971
01:00:45.600 --> 01:00:54.000
sometimes i may pretend sometimes i may even speak of wildlife so joy i'm gonna give you a

972
01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:58.480
phrase to learn because this was my problem i don't like to hurt people's feelings right

973
01:00:59.120 --> 01:01:06.640
so here's what a therapist taught me when we avoid hurting people we will cause more harm later

974
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:13.120
sometimes the harm is to them and sometimes the harm is to ourselves it's kind of like when you

975
01:01:13.120 --> 01:01:20.000
have a toothache if you go to the dentist to fix the toothache is it going usually the dentist

976
01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:25.280
will say this is going to hurt a little bit but i need to do it to fix the infection or fix the

977
01:01:25.280 --> 01:01:31.360
problem and so the dentist knows he's going to hurt you for a little bit so he tries to warn you

978
01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:38.720
give you a little novocaine and let you let you bear it because he wants to fix it if he doesn't

979
01:01:38.720 --> 01:01:43.120
if you don't go to the dentist and you don't deal with that little bit of pain up front then it's

980
01:01:43.120 --> 01:01:48.160
going to cause more harm later and that's what happens in this situation so what you might have

981
01:01:48.160 --> 01:01:54.800
is sometimes when you're trying to juggle not hurting people's feelings chances are you're

982
01:01:54.800 --> 01:02:01.120
going to hurt one of them or both of them more or you're going to get hurt in the process so

983
01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:08.720
try to think about that you guys we can't stop hurt sometimes sometimes the hurt gives healing

984
01:02:09.360 --> 01:02:13.680
sometimes there's healing in the hurt so sometimes when we try to and you guys know this as a parent

985
01:02:13.680 --> 01:02:19.760
and i'm sure you have four kids i'm sure sometimes you had to let your kids hurt for them to get

986
01:02:19.760 --> 01:02:26.080
healing and so the minute somebody said that to me renee every time you try to avoid her you're

987
01:02:26.080 --> 01:02:37.120
going to cause more harm later that was a really so it was such a freeing thing for me um so i hope

988
01:02:37.120 --> 01:02:42.640
that helps you joy i'm going to pray for you that you decide and don't decide any faster than you

989
01:02:42.640 --> 01:02:49.360
have to like i've as a single person i've toggled to i i used to say this thing and it did not always

990
01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:53.680
land well with everybody but i used to call myself the church whore because i used to go to a lot of

991
01:02:53.680 --> 01:02:58.320
different churches i'm like i'm like a church whore i go to this women's ministry over here

992
01:02:58.320 --> 01:03:03.680
this pastoral care thing over here i like this sermon over here and funny people found it really

993
01:03:03.680 --> 01:03:08.640
funny and other people are like you're what and so like especially when you're single and you don't

994
01:03:08.640 --> 01:03:14.400
have kids like you get to go to more than one church because like one might be one part of your

995
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:19.760
personal in the other part another part i mean even now as you know brian and i are trying to

996
01:03:19.760 --> 01:03:23.600
figure out where our new church is i still like going back to the old church sometimes and so

997
01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:29.600
it's okay so don't rush your decision don't make a decision or don't make a decision because you're

998
01:03:29.600 --> 01:03:33.840
trying to hurt somebody you're trying to avoid hurting someone's feelings but not make a decision

999
01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:39.120
so make the decision when the lord tells you what to do and just be gracious to yourself in the

1000
01:03:39.120 --> 01:03:43.920
meantime all right tiffany see y'all are learning so much about me in just a short amount of weeks

1001
01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:52.480
i'm telling you i'm jackie 2.0 all right tiffany you're next okay so what you said earlier about

1002
01:03:55.040 --> 01:04:03.120
the different personalities for the different situations are places that we've lost our true

1003
01:04:03.120 --> 01:04:15.120
identity and i feel like that was like a two by four like that's yes 110 so my question to you

1004
01:04:15.120 --> 01:04:22.400
is as you went through the heartwork because i look at it and go the lord's exposing all the

1005
01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:27.120
lies and all the different places and i shared even this morning like there's part of me that

1006
01:04:27.120 --> 01:04:33.360
doesn't even know who i am and i'm okay with that in the moment because i know he's revealing and

1007
01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:41.200
helping me find that with him right but since you've gone through the heartwork do you find

1008
01:04:41.200 --> 01:04:48.240
now that you are one person like with one identity instead of all the different

1009
01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:56.480
so in truth as you know what i kind of said to you guys is i feel like the lord in the last

1010
01:04:56.480 --> 01:05:00.000
four years has has stripped away every

1011
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:06.400
So like, I kind of felt like I was getting, you know, at the end of my heart work, probably

1012
01:05:06.400 --> 01:05:12.160
three years ago, I felt like I was, I would say this, I was the same person on Sunday

1013
01:05:12.160 --> 01:05:14.080
that I was on Wednesday.

1014
01:05:14.080 --> 01:05:16.360
So I was getting more congruent.

1015
01:05:16.360 --> 01:05:21.660
The same Renee was showing up at church and at home and with my family.

1016
01:05:21.660 --> 01:05:23.400
So that part felt congruent.

1017
01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:29.640
I didn't feel like I had to be all things for all people anymore, but being congruent

1018
01:05:29.840 --> 01:05:34.120
and being the same person, you will lose people, right?

1019
01:05:34.120 --> 01:05:36.800
Because you have to now be true to yourself.

1020
01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:41.640
And so some people who liked the fake version of you are going to want you to go back to

1021
01:05:41.640 --> 01:05:42.680
the old person.

1022
01:05:42.680 --> 01:05:44.800
And so I lost some friends along the way.

1023
01:05:44.800 --> 01:05:50.000
I lost some business connections along the way, people at church, some family members.

1024
01:05:50.000 --> 01:05:53.280
So there is some fallout to becoming congruent.

1025
01:05:53.280 --> 01:05:58.200
But I feel like, you know how I just said to you guys earlier, there's always new layers

1026
01:05:58.200 --> 01:06:00.400
of revealing for healing.

1027
01:06:00.400 --> 01:06:05.200
So what I realized was even though I was becoming more congruent, what I did not realize was

1028
01:06:05.200 --> 01:06:11.520
how dependent I still was on what other people thought of me versus what God thought of me.

1029
01:06:11.520 --> 01:06:16.200
And I didn't know that until I left my job, stopped making the money, stopped getting

1030
01:06:16.200 --> 01:06:18.400
speaking gigs every week.

1031
01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:24.240
And a year later, I'm like, I'm nobody.

1032
01:06:24.280 --> 01:06:29.080
And isn't it ironic that I met Brian in a year that I thought I was nobody?

1033
01:06:29.080 --> 01:06:30.080
Do you know what I'm saying?

1034
01:06:30.080 --> 01:06:34.040
And because so for him, he feels like he got to meet Renee.

1035
01:06:34.040 --> 01:06:42.240
Not Hope Clinic Renee, not CEO, not speaker, not performer, like he got to meet me.

1036
01:06:42.240 --> 01:06:47.240
And so here I am four years after doing heartwork for the first time.

1037
01:06:47.240 --> 01:06:54.120
And it's like, God's going, like, I've dismantled every caricature.

1038
01:06:54.120 --> 01:06:56.880
And some of those things I think he's bringing back, Tiffany.

1039
01:06:56.880 --> 01:07:00.000
So I still am a good speaker and I still am a good teacher.

1040
01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:01.840
So those gifts aren't bad.

1041
01:07:01.840 --> 01:07:05.800
I was just, I needed them for all the wrong reasons.

1042
01:07:05.800 --> 01:07:11.680
So God's like, I'm going to slowly give the right ones back to you to shape your new identity,

1043
01:07:11.680 --> 01:07:16.760
which is going to be congruent, but it's going to be because you already trust who I say

1044
01:07:16.760 --> 01:07:18.680
you are.

1045
01:07:18.680 --> 01:07:21.200
So did that answer your question?

1046
01:07:21.200 --> 01:07:23.360
I hope that answered your question.

1047
01:07:23.920 --> 01:07:27.800
So just trust that it might happen in layers.

1048
01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:29.240
And I have one more question.

1049
01:07:29.240 --> 01:07:35.960
And I feel like probably there's many women that will probably resonate with this question.

1050
01:07:35.960 --> 01:07:41.560
There's a part of me that is scared to death to think of going to the second phase.

1051
01:07:41.560 --> 01:07:43.840
And I know I'm not even like, I'm not close.

1052
01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:46.040
I've got several weeks to go.

1053
01:07:46.040 --> 01:07:48.200
So I know the Lord's got a whole lot of work.

1054
01:07:48.200 --> 01:07:53.480
I'm giving him a lot of homework to do in me and that.

1055
01:07:53.480 --> 01:08:00.320
If we're continually being healed, how do, and it's now co-ed in those phases.

1056
01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:01.320
Yeah.

1057
01:08:01.320 --> 01:08:02.320
Okay.

1058
01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:03.320
Well, let me help you out.

1059
01:08:03.320 --> 01:08:04.320
Phase two is not co-ed yet.

1060
01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:06.960
Phase two is not co-ed.

1061
01:08:06.960 --> 01:08:07.960
And here's the thing, y'all.

1062
01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:11.920
I used to leave phase two for the longest time and I couldn't get people to leave phase

1063
01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:12.920
two.

1064
01:08:12.920 --> 01:08:13.920
So here's what happens.

1065
01:08:13.920 --> 01:08:16.920
You get so comfortable in phase one and Annette could agree with this, right?

1066
01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:17.920
I don't want to leave.

1067
01:08:17.920 --> 01:08:18.920
I don't want to leave.

1068
01:08:18.920 --> 01:08:21.920
But then you get to phase two and you're like, I don't want to leave.

1069
01:08:21.920 --> 01:08:22.920
I don't want to leave.

1070
01:08:22.920 --> 01:08:26.880
And so no one's going to, no one's going to make you do anything you don't want to do.

1071
01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:31.700
But I will tell you in phase two, there's new stuff for you to talk about.

1072
01:08:31.700 --> 01:08:34.200
We talk about the divine masculine and feminine.

1073
01:08:34.200 --> 01:08:36.779
We talk about how to date healthy.

1074
01:08:36.779 --> 01:08:42.760
I teach the online dating and the boundaries class, which it's like boundaries for life.

1075
01:08:42.760 --> 01:08:45.600
And so there's some really good new teachings in that.

1076
01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:50.580
And you start to practice it and you know, Jackie gives a dating challenge and people

1077
01:08:50.580 --> 01:08:51.580
freak out.

1078
01:08:51.580 --> 01:08:53.960
They're like, oh my gosh, like whatever.

1079
01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:56.760
She just wants you to get back out there and practice.

1080
01:08:56.760 --> 01:09:01.240
And so at each phase you get to like, there's a suggested length of time that you stay in

1081
01:09:01.240 --> 01:09:02.240
there.

1082
01:09:02.240 --> 01:09:05.720
But like, look, we didn't kick out, what's her name that's been here for like 11 months.

1083
01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:09.359
So no one's going to kick you out of phase one and no one's going to kick you out of

1084
01:09:09.359 --> 01:09:10.520
phase two.

1085
01:09:10.520 --> 01:09:13.840
You don't get co-ed until phase three.

1086
01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:19.560
And even then, you know, don't show up live or come with your camera off.

1087
01:09:19.560 --> 01:09:22.920
Like no one's going to make you turn on your camera.

1088
01:09:22.920 --> 01:09:25.439
So no one's going to make you do anything.

1089
01:09:25.439 --> 01:09:30.800
But all of us would say that in phase two and in phase three and me, I'm not, and technically

1090
01:09:30.800 --> 01:09:34.120
I'm a teacher now and I'm telling you, I'm still getting heart healing.

1091
01:09:34.120 --> 01:09:36.800
So it's not like it goes away.

1092
01:09:36.800 --> 01:09:39.120
You're just going to add another layer to it.

1093
01:09:39.120 --> 01:09:42.960
And as you practice it, some of it's just going to become second nature.

1094
01:09:42.960 --> 01:09:47.120
But then when you date, all of a sudden you might go, wow, there's a new revealing for

1095
01:09:47.120 --> 01:09:50.760
healing or wow, I need to go back to the forgiveness sheet.

1096
01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:53.640
And so it's not like you get rid of it.

1097
01:09:53.640 --> 01:09:57.240
You just start to add more layers to it.

1098
01:09:57.240 --> 01:09:58.240
It's a good thing.

1099
01:09:58.240 --> 01:09:59.960
I promise you, Tiffany, I will be.

1100
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:02.080
Excited to see you over in phase two.

1101
01:10:02.080 --> 01:10:04.080
Can I add something to that, Renee?

1102
01:10:04.080 --> 01:10:06.040
Yes, please jump in.

1103
01:10:06.040 --> 01:10:09.400
I was gonna say, I understand what you're saying, Tiffany,

1104
01:10:09.400 --> 01:10:13.080
because I felt those same things with each,

1105
01:10:13.080 --> 01:10:16.200
you know, when you would progress through each of the phases

1106
01:10:17.360 --> 01:10:20.760
but in one of my quiet times,

1107
01:10:20.760 --> 01:10:22.760
it was like, Holy Spirit whispered,

1108
01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:24.760
but look what I've done here

1109
01:10:25.960 --> 01:10:29.280
and imagine what I'm going to do here.

1110
01:10:29.280 --> 01:10:34.280
It was like phase one gave me the hope and the assurance

1111
01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:38.600
that the same things he did in me in phase one,

1112
01:10:38.600 --> 01:10:42.560
he had good things for me in phase two as well.

1113
01:10:42.560 --> 01:10:46.640
But I needed, I needed to be willing to be brave

1114
01:10:46.640 --> 01:10:50.160
and show courage and step out of my comfort zone

1115
01:10:50.160 --> 01:10:53.360
that I've created into the next phase

1116
01:10:53.360 --> 01:10:55.840
because God had more for me there.

1117
01:10:55.840 --> 01:10:58.160
I had to be willing to take the step of faith

1118
01:10:58.160 --> 01:11:01.400
and trust him that he was gonna do the same thing

1119
01:11:01.400 --> 01:11:03.520
that he did for me in phase one,

1120
01:11:03.520 --> 01:11:05.280
he'll do for you in phase two.

1121
01:11:05.280 --> 01:11:08.880
It just looks different because he's growing you even more.

1122
01:11:10.320 --> 01:11:11.720
If that helps.

1123
01:11:11.720 --> 01:11:14.680
Both of y'all have helped tremendously.

1124
01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:18.600
Because we've been there, done that, bought the shirt.

1125
01:11:19.680 --> 01:11:22.480
Oh yeah, I mean, you know,

1126
01:11:22.480 --> 01:11:23.960
and we want that for you too.

1127
01:11:23.960 --> 01:11:27.520
I think that's the reason why we keep pouring back into you

1128
01:11:27.600 --> 01:11:31.280
because when you get on this side of it,

1129
01:11:31.280 --> 01:11:34.160
you want everybody to get the healing that we've had.

1130
01:11:34.160 --> 01:11:35.400
You want everybody to learn

1131
01:11:35.400 --> 01:11:37.080
how to have healthy relationships.

1132
01:11:37.080 --> 01:11:39.160
And that's what's cool in phase two,

1133
01:11:39.160 --> 01:11:41.480
you learn how to have healthy relationships.

1134
01:11:41.480 --> 01:11:44.640
And I found that having healthy relationships

1135
01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:48.120
wasn't just dating because if I was being codependent

1136
01:11:48.120 --> 01:11:49.800
or I was picking the narcissist,

1137
01:11:49.800 --> 01:11:51.840
y'all I did that with girlfriends too.

1138
01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:53.440
I did that with bosses too.

1139
01:11:53.440 --> 01:11:56.600
Like I had my third narcissist in a row as a female boss.

1140
01:11:56.600 --> 01:11:58.760
I'm like, okay, Renee, what's the pattern here?

1141
01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:00.040
What's going on?

1142
01:12:00.040 --> 01:12:02.520
And so you'll find that it'll impact

1143
01:12:02.520 --> 01:12:07.480
all of your relationships if you really lean into it.

1144
01:12:07.480 --> 01:12:10.400
Because we don't just have these unhealthy patterns

1145
01:12:10.400 --> 01:12:11.600
with the opposite sex.

1146
01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:14.080
It's been showing up in our other areas of life too.

1147
01:12:14.080 --> 01:12:17.000
And so it's gonna just change your life

1148
01:12:17.000 --> 01:12:18.360
for all of the better.

1149
01:12:18.360 --> 01:12:21.440
And so we want that freedom for y'all too.

1150
01:12:21.440 --> 01:12:24.360
So I'm excited.

1151
01:12:24.360 --> 01:12:28.480
Y'all, next week you're gonna have Carla and Annette

1152
01:12:28.480 --> 01:12:30.600
because I will be on my honeymoon.

1153
01:12:33.160 --> 01:12:35.440
See y'all, we got married in October,

1154
01:12:35.440 --> 01:12:37.040
but I was still in school.

1155
01:12:37.040 --> 01:12:39.560
So I was like, dude, if we go on our honeymoon now,

1156
01:12:39.560 --> 01:12:41.840
I'm taking my school books with me.

1157
01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.080
And he's like, yeah, let's not do that.

1158
01:12:44.080 --> 01:12:46.280
So I'm on semester break.

1159
01:12:46.280 --> 01:12:49.800
And I was just saying to Annette,

1160
01:12:49.800 --> 01:12:52.200
Brian and I have not been alone for seven days

1161
01:12:52.240 --> 01:12:55.200
without either schoolwork, homework,

1162
01:12:55.200 --> 01:12:57.640
his job or a family vacation.

1163
01:12:57.640 --> 01:12:59.240
Like, I don't know,

1164
01:12:59.240 --> 01:13:01.720
we're gonna be just staring at each other for seven days.

1165
01:13:01.720 --> 01:13:06.720
And then my poor, my mother, God bless her heart.

1166
01:13:07.360 --> 01:13:09.760
Cause you know, we've gotten a little fluffier

1167
01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:11.520
since we first met.

1168
01:13:11.520 --> 01:13:14.040
Y'all are not gonna be staring at each other

1169
01:13:14.040 --> 01:13:14.880
for seven days.

1170
01:13:14.880 --> 01:13:15.720
This is what she said.

1171
01:13:15.720 --> 01:13:17.960
She goes, do you have any clothes that are gonna fit?

1172
01:13:17.960 --> 01:13:19.040
What mother said?

1173
01:13:19.040 --> 01:13:20.040
Like, did you?

1174
01:13:20.080 --> 01:13:23.360
And so my girlfriend's in my seminary cohort,

1175
01:13:23.360 --> 01:13:26.560
she said, well, but you're gonna be both be naked

1176
01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:27.880
the whole time.

1177
01:13:27.880 --> 01:13:30.040
There should be no clothes.

1178
01:13:30.040 --> 01:13:32.040
And I was like, oh gosh.

1179
01:13:35.800 --> 01:13:39.120
So anyway, see, that's what happens in phase two.

1180
01:13:39.120 --> 01:13:40.280
We have sex talks.

1181
01:13:40.280 --> 01:13:43.280
I'm just saying, it's really fun.

1182
01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:45.440
Oh my gosh.

1183
01:13:45.440 --> 01:13:46.680
Y'all, this has been so much fun.

1184
01:13:46.680 --> 01:13:47.720
Annette, is there anything else?

1185
01:13:47.720 --> 01:13:49.400
I meant to call on you sooner.

1186
01:13:49.440 --> 01:13:51.240
Is there anything else that you wanted to share

1187
01:13:51.240 --> 01:13:54.440
that just stuck out from what the ladies were saying?

1188
01:13:54.440 --> 01:13:58.280
No, I jumped in with what I wanted,

1189
01:13:58.280 --> 01:14:00.080
what I felt important to add.

1190
01:14:01.880 --> 01:14:03.280
Thanks for checking though.

1191
01:14:03.280 --> 01:14:04.120
You bet.

1192
01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:08.160
So we do, you guys, it's after the mark

1193
01:14:08.160 --> 01:14:11.520
where Jackie will be kicking my butt for going this long.

1194
01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:14.760
So Joy, put your question in the chat

1195
01:14:14.760 --> 01:14:17.240
and one of the coaches, and it could be Annette,

1196
01:14:17.240 --> 01:14:19.560
will be happy to answer that question in the chat.

1197
01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:22.000
I'm gonna let Annette close us out though.

1198
01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:25.240
Oh, okay.

1199
01:14:25.240 --> 01:14:28.320
I did want to, even though I can't ask quickly

1200
01:14:28.320 --> 01:14:30.320
because of time, I take a lot of time.

1201
01:14:37.160 --> 01:14:38.840
Renee, was that you talking or was it?

1202
01:14:38.840 --> 01:14:40.760
No, that was Joy talking.

1203
01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:41.600
Are you saying, Joy,

1204
01:14:41.600 --> 01:14:43.440
that you can't put the question in the chat?

1205
01:14:43.440 --> 01:14:44.880
I'm just, we're just-

1206
01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:47.680
No, I'm just saying, instead of I just say it quickly,

1207
01:14:47.680 --> 01:14:49.240
it's a very short question.

1208
01:14:49.240 --> 01:14:51.240
At the time, I take a longer time.

1209
01:14:53.200 --> 01:14:56.520
Just how to discern what's the best and what's the good.

1210
01:14:56.520 --> 01:14:58.000
The best and the good.

1211
01:14:58.880 --> 01:14:59.720
Ooh.

1212
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:03.540
That's way too big of a question to answer at the end.

1213
01:15:03.540 --> 01:15:07.200
How to determine between, that's going to be the thing that the Lord's going to work

1214
01:15:07.200 --> 01:15:08.200
on with you guys.

1215
01:15:08.200 --> 01:15:14.160
It is going to be really easy to walk away from everything that's bad and unhealthy.

1216
01:15:14.160 --> 01:15:18.520
What's going to be, what you're really going to have to exercise your muscle on is what's

1217
01:15:18.520 --> 01:15:20.960
the good versus the good good.

1218
01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:24.080
And we don't want you guys to just picking the good, we want you to go after the good

1219
01:15:24.080 --> 01:15:25.080
good.

1220
01:15:25.080 --> 01:15:30.480
And so Joy, I would just say, hang on, stay in the program, God will start to reveal that

1221
01:15:30.480 --> 01:15:31.480
to you.

1222
01:15:31.480 --> 01:15:35.800
That's my short answer because it's not a short answer, if that makes sense.

1223
01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:36.800
You bet, sweetie.

1224
01:15:36.800 --> 01:15:39.160
All right, Annette, I'm going to let you close out.

1225
01:15:39.160 --> 01:15:40.160
Okay.

1226
01:15:40.160 --> 01:15:45.600
Heavenly Father, thank you for your wisdom, your guidance and your direction tonight.

1227
01:15:45.600 --> 01:15:47.920
Thank you for transforming hearts.

1228
01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:52.440
And I pray that you would help each one of us to have a heart posture that is completely

1229
01:15:52.440 --> 01:15:59.000
and wholly surrendered to you, trusting in your divine protection and provision over

1230
01:15:59.000 --> 01:16:00.000
us.

1231
01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:04.000
Thank you for Renee's willingness to step in and cover why Bethany's gone.

1232
01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:09.080
I see you would bless each one of these ladies in the week ahead, bless Renee and Brian on

1233
01:16:09.080 --> 01:16:16.440
their honeymoon and bring them back safely and bring each of these ladies back next week.

1234
01:16:16.440 --> 01:16:20.160
And so we can continue to learn and grow in you, in your name I pray, amen.

1235
01:16:23.160 --> 01:16:24.160
Amen.

1236
01:16:24.160 --> 01:16:25.160
Bye y'all.

1237
01:16:25.160 --> 01:16:26.160
Have a good night.

1238
01:16:26.160 --> 01:16:27.160
Amen.

1239
01:16:27.160 --> 01:16:28.160
Thank you.

1240
01:16:28.160 --> 01:16:29.160
You too.

1241
01:16:29.160 --> 01:16:30.160
It was amazing.

1242
01:16:30.160 --> 01:16:31.840
Thank you so much.
