All right, welcome, welcome, Renee Rizzo here, I am in the middle of subbing, Bethany will
be joining us again next week.
Thank you all.
I know you all had Carla last week, and I'm sure you all had a blast.
I was on my honeymoon, finally, three months after the fact, where I wrote a post on Facebook
and I said that it rained for a few days, and I learned that my husband really can roll
with the punches, while I was cranky pants about it.
I got what he probably thinks is bronchitis, and I was coughing up a lung pretty much the
whole trip, and he is a nurse, he's a trained nurse, and so he brought a stash of meds,
which I would have never brought meds on vacation, and it was awesome, the nurse was like, of
course he did.
And just a few other things, and I was just reminded, y'all, the heart work is worth it,
it's gonna lead you to your best friend, and nothing in life is going to be perfect, even
your honeymoon, and that's the good stuff.
So I'm gonna kick it to you, Annette, to open this up.
Okay.
First of all, welcome to all of the new ladies, if this is your first time joining us, please
let us know in the chat.
We wanna especially welcome you tonight, we're glad that you're here, and to all the other
ladies, welcome back.
Take time this week, we want, it's really good to focus on gratitude, and gratitude
really changes our attitude, right?
I know for me, even, sometimes, I just spent this weekend at work, and we had a whole new
charting system, and not a lot of training, and it did not go well.
It did not go well at all, and there were times when I wasn't thinking very good thoughts,
and my attitude followed that, and when the Holy Spirit checked me a little bit, reminded
me to turn it around, and even when I just got three or four sentences in to saying something
that I was thankful for, or that I had to be grateful for, it really changed my countenance,
and my outlook, and really made it possible for me to look at things a little bit differently,
and brought more peace to my heart.
So try this week to think about that, and think of something that you're thankful for
each day, that you can look back on, and remember throughout the week, and how God
has shown up for you, and then also Supernatural Saturday, that's my, I'm the Supernatural
Saturday commercial girl.
So if you didn't get a chance to listen to it this week, live, we encourage you to go
back and listen in person.
I assure you, you will always be blessed by the wisdom and insight that Jackie brings
to us through the Holy Spirit.
So with all of that said, now I'm going to pray us in, and we'll get going, and enjoy
the evening, and what Renee has to tell us all together.
Okay.
Dear Heavenly Father, thank you for the privilege of community, for the opportunity to be here
this evening, and thank you that you're here.
We invite your Holy Spirit presence to fall over each one of us, and each one of these
ladies that the words that are spoken would be words that encourage, that just the things
that you want to highlight to each lady on the call, that it would be highlighted to
them, and that those that are listening in replay, you have something for each one of
us, and I pray that you would use this time to renew us, to transform us, and to change
us into ladies that serve you, that are surrendered to you, and that walk in obedience to you
with whole healed hearts.
In your name I pray, amen.
Go Renee.
I'm excited to talk to you guys about this topic.
It's the topic of forgiveness, and this is a pretty big one.
Two weeks ago, we kind of covered repentance and confession, and right along with that
includes forgiveness, and I don't know where you are in your journey, but I can bet you
that most of us have people to forgive, maybe even God to forgive, maybe even ourselves
to forgive, and it sounds like this big thing that we're supposed to do, and it's just super,
super hard.
Before I get started, I just want to remind you all, especially if you're new, that part
of going through the HeartWork program is learning to show up for yourself, and remembering
that you matter.
Your face matters, and it is time to kind of come out of hiding, so we always encourage
folks to change their Facebook.
profile picture to not be of their dog or their cat anymore, but a picture of themselves.
And we invite so many of you to come on camera. I don't know about y'all, but I like talking to
people. I can see it's so much more fun. I like to see if folks are paying attention, falling asleep.
I know some of you might be driving. Some of you might be eating dinner. Y'all, I take seminary
classes online now. You can munch like literally with your hands and I wouldn't care. That's how
much I want to see your pretty little faces. I actually showered for y'all. I don't know how
he showered. But so just know that as you are able to, to come on camera, it really does help you to
get to know each other because you guys are going to be going in breakout rooms and definitely by
the time you go into a breakout room, you do need to come on the camera. And then as you guys start
to talk to each other more in the app, you'll feel more welcome and willing to talk to each
other. If you've actually been able to put a name and a face together, it'll just kind of help you
out. So today's topic is forgiveness. And what I decided to do, there's some really great notes,
but y'all, I went back to, I got the ebook just like y'all. I printed it out and I have the, not
binder. Now this binder's four years old. That's how long ago I took artwork for the first time.
And so the notes kind of do this, but I love Jackie's words so much that I'm just, I highlighted
a few sentences here and there on the topic of forgiveness. And then I'm going to kind of insert
a little bit of my own and what I've learned and the folks that I've had to forgive, not just when
I took this class the first time, y'all, I even found my forgiveness sheets that I did way back
four years ago and how often I referred back to that forgiveness prayer for new people or things
that I had to forgive. And so let me just start to talk to you a little bit about this. Forgiveness
along with repentance and confession is the only thing that has the power to put you back into
touch with your authentic identity. Because remember, we talked about when trauma and
hard stuff happens, we create counterfeit versions of ourself. And so the only way that we can get
back to that original person is confession, repentance, and forgiveness. It's like,
I got to forgive the inside and I got to forgive everybody else around me. And only then,
when I've shed all that stuff, that I can kind of peel away the layers to that new skin, that new
identity that God has for me. All of the other versions, remember, are just fragmented identities
created by those heart wounds and those lies that we believed. And if there's heart wounds and
there's lies, chances are attached to those heart wounds and lies are some things or people that we
need to forgive, right? So we're kind of going back to the root of that. Usually what happens
when we don't forgive folks, we sit in what I call the victim seat. And so when somebody has done
something to us or said something to us, no matter how horrific it is, in the moment of the abuse or
the awful thing that's happened, you are the victim, right? That's what happens. You know, there's a
house fire, there's victims in the fire, there's a car accident, there's a victim in the car accident.
But the thing is that car accident victim doesn't always remain a victim, right? We want to go from
victim to victorious. So we want to change the identity that gets associated with that wound or
thing that happened. So if you're coming here from a childhood wound or a divorce wound, we want to
make sure you don't say a victim because guess what? Once you go back out into the dating world
again, because remember, when you're doing the heart work, we kind of ask you to take a dating
sabbatical, especially if you're new, make sure you remember that. And then, but when you get back
out there, we want to make sure that you don't still, you're not still wearing those victim clothes
because victims will still attract rescuers and or people to take advantage of you. And you don't
need a man to rescue you and you don't need somebody to take advantage of you. So the only way
you can not attract those men is to be willing to take off that victim clothing that you have to it.
And just remember that it is okay in the moment that that victim just survived. I think, I think
I said this two weeks ago, you kind of have to forgive the person that got you through the trauma.
So however you needed to survive in that moment, give yourself a lot of grace. Like you might look
back 10, 20 years from now and go, gosh, I wish I behaved differently. Well, in the middle of the
moment you were in that trauma and it is okay that you were a victim and you don't want to
shame or blame yourself on how you handled that. But you want to be able to get outside of that.
Okay. So let's see the pain. So here's what happens. So when you're in that victim's seat,
there's a pain associated with it. And so sometimes the pain is kind of like your claim to fame.
So when you've been in the victim's seat, like you guys, perfect example, I had a lot
of eye surgery as a kid and that sucked, but it also gave me a lot of attention and I got
a lot of gifts for it too.
And so being the victim, being the kid in the hospital all the time kind of had some
perks, you know, but then I realized I didn't want that notoriety anymore.
Like I didn't want to feel special for something like being in the hospital.
So I had to kind of be willing to give up all the perks that went in with being a hospital
kid.
I had to give up the special attention, the special consolation.
Like now when I walk in a room, not everybody knows that I have an eye problem.
And so, yeah, it'd be a lot easier if accommodations were made for me every single time, but if
I want to show up in the world and not just show up as the girl who can't see well, then
I have to show up with my full self and I want to step out of that victim mentality.
So you kind of have to be willing to.
The thing that we don't talk about in the book that is the perfect example of what happens
with the victim, if you guys have a pen and paper, I want you to draw a triangle.
So everybody draw a triangle.
One corner of that triangle is called the victim.
So this is called the Karpman Triangle, K-A-R-P-M-A-N, Karpman Triangle.
You can look it up afterwards, but this is like the clinical version of what Jackie talks
about in the book.
So if you're reading the book, I want you to be kind of like mentally thinking about
it.
At the other corner of the triangle, you're going to write the word rescuer.
And at the other corner of the thing, you're going to write the aggressor.
So you have an aggressor, a rescuer, and a victim.
So remember I was telling you, if you always stay in the victim state, you're either going
to become the rescuer or data rescuer, which sometimes is really appealing, right?
Like we all kind of want to be rescued, it feels really good to be rescued by somebody,
or we're going to kind of create that.
Or sometimes we fall in that category.
Sometimes we decide that we never want to be a victim again, and so we kind of get that
tough, thick exterior.
And this may have happened to you, where you feel like really your heart got hardened before
you came into the heart work, and you're like, I'm never going to let anybody mistreat me
again.
I'm never going to let anything bad happen to me again.
And you kind of become like the villain of the story, or the aggressor, or the controller.
You become that dominant personality because you never want to be a victim again.
Or because you never want to be a victim again, you think you can control the situation around
you, but in a more loving way.
And we call the rescuer, the people pleaser, the codependent, the perfectionist, how many
can relate to that chick, right?
Yeah, we all know that girl.
And so here's the thing, you guys, the people pleaser, the codependent, believe it or not,
has a lot of the same traits as the villain or the narcissist.
We just control our environment with love, with gifts, with attention.
Like we're doing all of this stuff to control the environment around us.
It's just a softer version, it's just the other side of it, but both versions are still
trying to take control of the situation.
So if you get out there and you start, and I see this all the time with women in phase
two and phase three, it will start to date again.
And they're like, why am I still attracting the narcissist?
Why am I still attracting that guy?
And a lot of times it's because women have not been able to still let go of that victim
cloak that she has wearing.
So a victim is only going to attract a rescuer or an aggressor.
So you don't want that, right?
So you want to make sure that you're willing to take that cloak off.
And so the flip version of that is a victim response to the story.
A victim reacts to the story.
A lot of times when you were a victim, you may have not had a chance to prevent it from
happening.
But now we are older, we are wiser, beautiful, capable, strong women that are getting healed.
So we're going to go from being the victim.
I want you to cross that word out.
And now you're going to write creator.
You're going to be the creator of your story.
You're going to be the leading lady.
I just saw the holiday again over my honeymoon late at night, I made Bri watch it.
And you know, the one main guy talks about how Kate Winslet's character, he said, you
keep acting like the best friend, but you're the leading lady.
And so ladies, I want you to be the creator of your own love story with God.
Like I want you to be the leading ladies.
Okay, so the instead of the rescuer, you're going to cross out the word rescuer, and you're
going to put coach.
And y'all, this is really important.
A lot of us will go on dates with broken bird boys and we're going to want to be all therapy
and Jesus on him and we're going to want to bring him all the heart healing that we've
received and we're going to want to care take a little bit too much and we don't want to
be a caretaker, we don't want to be a rescuer, we might want to coach, we might want to guide
and we might want to support.
So I've been a cheerleading coach, I've been an executive coach and all I can do as a coach
is cheer somebody on and I can motivate them and I can excite them.
I can't tell them what to do and I can't make them do anything.
So a coach is not pushing that as much as they are empowering that to begin that.
In fact, I just got a text message from Brian, he's like Renee, you encourage me so well
and see that's the role I want to be.
I want to be his encourager, I don't want to tell him what to do.
And then the aggressor or the persecutor becomes a challenger.
You guys, it's okay to challenge the status quo.
It's okay to ask questions with curiosity, it is okay to put healthy boundaries in place.
So instead of either being the victim, the rescuer or the aggressor, we want to lean
into what does it mean to be the coach, what does it mean to be the creator and what does
it mean to challenge, challenge with curiosity, holding both hands kind of loosely.
Do you guys kind of like get that picture in your heads kind of making sense a little
bit like we want to take off the old self and we want to put on this new identity which
is really how God created us to be in relationships.
So the Cartman Triangle, that unhealthy drama triangle is a much more reactive and it's
more painful place to be.
The healthy wellness version of that triangle that is you being proactive, that is being
in the moment, it is being strong and it's kind of holding your hands loosely.
And if you're like, well, but Renee, I don't want to forgive, I don't want to be like,
I can't get out of this victim role, you don't understand how much has happened to me.
I don't know your story, but I do know there's somebody that went to the cross who suffered
way more than you did and in fact, he suffered for everything that you did.
Because he didn't just go to the cross for your sins, he went to the cross for the sins
of the person who perpetrated you.
Does that make sense?
So if somebody harmed me, this person that I'm like, oh, over, Jesus didn't just die
for my sins, he died for his too.
Which means I don't have to hold him accountable for him anymore because Jesus is taking care
of the punishment.
So it's not my job to punish that person anymore.
And so when we refuse to forgive somebody, it keeps us in that victim identity longer.
It's going to tether us to that trauma.
Like how many of you know that when you don't forgive somebody, you still feel a weirdo
connection to them?
I don't know why my mic is like that.
And so when you have unforgiveness, you do have a tether to them.
I'm not sure if you guys have talked about soul ties yet, but it does create a type of
soul tie.
It will connect you to that person.
And if you're connected to that story, it's going to always be like an open wound.
We kind of want to create like a scab over those wounds.
Can you post a photo of the triangle and all the words in it?
I popped in late.
I will summarize this again at the end.
But the three triangle is victim, rescuer, aggressor, victim, rescuer.
So instead of being a victim, you want to become a creator.
Instead of a rescuer, you want to become a coach.
And instead of aggressor, you want to become a challenger.
Because the truth is, you guys, you're not going to just sit in one of those places.
You're not going to always be the coach, you're not going to always be the challenger, you're
not going to always be the creator.
The truth is, in life, you're going to kind of rotate that.
I'm sure Annette could speak to that too, even with her marriage.
They kind of rotate.
Sometimes somebody is coaching the other person.
Sometimes somebody is going to be the strong one and say, oh, I need to challenge that
thought.
I need to challenge that perception right now.
We might have to talk about that a little bit more.
Yes, that's a good way to say, is the challenger like iron sharpening iron?
Yeah, it really is.
A challenger is going to do things in a really healthy way.
I call it speak the truth in love.
A challenger is going to be able to speak the truth in love.
A challenger is going to be able to ask curious questions.
And so all of those get you out of the victim's seat.
And I really wanted to dig into that, only because I know so many people come out of
this artwork and start to date, and they really haven't shed that.
And they keep wondering why they're still attracting that person.
I wanted to kind of tell you, like, unless you posture yourself like a coach and a
Creator and a challenger if you when you posture yourself that way that is what you're going to start to attract
Going longer
Okay, I'm gonna keep going because there's some really good stuff here. Okay, so the act of forgiveness is a process with many layers
I wish it were a one-and-done
Sometimes it's a one-and-done y'all like sometimes it's a one-and-done like when we forgive something that's less painful
We can do it and we can forgive them and we're done like we're not doing it
But for many of us, it's like multi-layered
Like one of the I would say one of my biggest onion that I had to forgive in layers was my relationship with my dad
It took a lot of years and a lot of conversation and a lot of time before the Lord
Because it's almost like the Lord knew I couldn't just rip it all off at the same time
You're like, well, why does it have to be in layers?
Because sometimes you know, Jackie says she wants us to pull up stuff as they come up, but she doesn't want us to go digging
so this is why we don't go digging because sometimes going digging and ripping it all off from the root is
Too painful and we were just we weren't equipped to handle it all at once
And so and it's interesting
I was just watching a movie where it was showing the burn victim in the hospital and they have to take off the
Dressing and they have to go layer by layer by layer to start to get to healthy skin
They just can't rip off all the old dead skin that's been damaged. It's a very slow process
So there can be some relationships that have a lot of like layers to it and it is okay
And so like I used to think it was a bad thing. I used to be like, oh lord
Why am I having one more therapy session about my father or oh my gosh
I cannot go to the altar one more time about my dad like something must be wrong with you
So if you are having to do your forgiveness and layers, do not think your failure. That is just a part of the process
Here's what we're doing when we actually forgive somebody when we truly forgive someone we are releasing them and ourselves
in
Into our authentic identities again after all they are not their mistakes. Just like we are not our pain. Think about that you guys. Oh
Like I really don't want the other person sometimes to get the healing too, but don't I really I really do want them to get
the healing
if
We don't do that. They say the villain and we say the victim
So if you're like, but he's just the bad guy or my mom was just a bad guy
If we make somebody the bad guy in our story, then we're still the victim of the story
You can't have it both ways
We can't be freed and victorious from that forgiveness and still keep them in the bad seat super hard to do
And I'm not saying that because it's like easy peasy
okay, and
by the way
I want to be able to say if you are the villain like it's okay here like so many times we do these group classes
And we think everybody is the people pleaser
Everyone's the victim everyone's the codependent, but I don't know your story
Maybe your story was super super hard when you were a kid
And so the only way you knew how to survive was being tough girl being big badass boss, babe
and that kind of made you kind of slightly bitchy and
You know and so you're realizing you guys even now
I'm in seminary and I used to run a nonprofit for almost 20 years and
As I've been the further out of my job and the longer I've been in seminary
The more I've realized I've had to go make amends with some people where even in my own like faith
Just because of some of my wounding there were times when I treated stuff amazing
But sometimes when I was tired or exhausted or frustrated like I was kind of the aggressor
Or I was the codependent. I was the something and it wasn't healthy
So I've had to go make amends with people
So just remember if the person you need to forgive is yourself for the things that you've said and done, too
That is okay
Like I don't want you to think we're in a room full of all victims here
some of us have had bad stuff happen to us and some of us have done bad stuff and
All of it can get wiped away tonight. All of it can get wiped away
I love this quote by Marianne Williamson
Forgiveness is not always easy at times
It feels more painful than the wound we suffered to fit to forgive the the one that inflicted it and yet
There is no peace without forgiveness. That's on page 139
of your book a
Lot of times we don't forgive because we don't feel like forgiving y'all. I don't feel like going to the gym
I make myself go to the gym. I don't feel like always doing my chaplain visits or writing my paper
I make myself do this
So forgiveness is a choice in the same way that love is a choice. Love is not a feeling love is a choice
We might have a lot of
feelings around the person that we love.
But I can tell you, the person that,
even if you're a parent, you know, right?
Sometimes you love your kids,
but you're not feeling in love with your kid
at the moment, right?
But you still love them.
And the same is true for forgiveness.
So don't wait to feel forgivable.
Start to choose to be forgiving.
Okay.
A lot of times, we also feel like we cannot forgive
until we receive the apology.
And I wish that I could give you that.
I wish I could give you every verbal apology that you need.
But sometimes we're asked to forgive.
Jesus certainly forgave.
I mean, he was on the cross and he said,
father, forgive them for they not know what they do.
So he forgave them when nobody was asking for forgiveness
up on that cross.
And so that's our model.
Like if we are supposed, if we are image bearers of Christ,
we're all image bearers of Christ,
and we all want to conform into the image of Christ,
then we need to forgive like Christ forgives,
which means sometimes we're gonna have to choose forgiveness
before the person has ever apologized.
I can tell you this, before my dad went home to heaven,
there were some things that he apologized for.
And there were some things he never apologized for.
And it wasn't even because he was a bad guy.
I think for my dad, some of his stuff was so big
that he couldn't even face all the bad stuff he did.
He couldn't do it.
So he asked for forgiveness and it owned as much as he could
this side of the veil.
The good news is I forgave him anyway.
And I actually used to say to him,
dad, you think that there's a barrier between us
because I've not forgiven you for everything.
I've actually forgiven you for everything.
The problem is you haven't forgiven yourself.
You haven't let go of that thing.
You're still seeing yourself as the things that you've done
that you can't even name because you think they're too big.
He's like, but they are too big.
And I'm like, well, they're too big for me
and they're too big for you,
but they're not too big for the cross.
And I always wished he had like this huge epiphany
before he died and just laid it all out there.
And I think as much as he could,
this side of the cross he did.
And I think sometimes God finishes that forgiveness
and that healing on the other side.
But I'm so thankful that I did my part with my dad
while he was still alive,
because it has made me have way more peace in his home going
than if I had been harboring that
and not speaking to him before he passed away.
What I love about forgiveness, again,
being in seminary, we spent a whole semester
talking about what Calvin and Wesley,
what everybody had to think about what sin meant
and what did it truly mean to get forgiveness
and this canceling of the debt.
And it's really hard, you guys,
if we don't understand the gravity of our own sin,
it's really hard to forgive.
And you're like, Renee, I don't get it.
Because if I realize how much I can sin,
I realize how much Jesus has already forgiven me.
And when I can really recognize
how much Jesus has forgiven me,
then I can't help but want to forgive other people.
But if I don't think my sin is that big of a deal, right?
I'm a pretty good person, Annette's a pretty good person.
Renee's a pretty good person.
Y'all, I worked in church ministry.
I ran a nonprofit, I saved me some babies.
I'm a pretty good kid.
I would not consider myself a sinner, right?
I'm a pretty good person,
especially compared to that one over there.
I'm pretty amazing.
But y'all, on my best day,
I'm still a sinner that needs a savior.
On my best day, it's still not good enough.
And when I can understand the fullness of the fact that,
even if it were just me, if it weren't all 33 of us,
even if it was just me,
Jesus would have gotten on that cross for just me.
And in fact, he wouldn't just have wanted to do it,
he would have had to do it.
That's how much sin is in me.
So that's how much sin is in all of us.
So really the thing or the person that we need to forgive,
it may appear, they may appear more sinful than us.
It may appear more harmful than us.
But remember, sin is sin and God has no measure of sin.
We all have sin, we all fall short of the glory of God.
So the more that I can do this,
and it is even in the Lord's prayer,
forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
What?
So Jesus himself is telling us we've got to forgive.
I'm just thinking we can't bypass that.
And here's the crazy.
If we forgive others, it actually increases our ability
to receive God's forgiveness in our life.
It really does.
It kind of unlocks a new level of forgiveness.
So otherwise that...
Unforgiveness starts to weigh us down.
We always say that unforgiveness is like pouring poison
but drinking it ourselves and giving it to the other person.
Like, you know, like sometimes the person that's harmed me,
they've apparently gone,
they've gone on with their merry life.
I don't know about y'all,
but like, have you ever seen somebody that was like,
they did something really terrible to you
and their life looks pretty fabulous.
And you're like, why am I the only one dying in this?
And that's what happens with unforgiveness.
You're not in pain because of the thing that happened to you.
You're in pain because of the shackle of unforgiveness
that's weighing you down.
That's really where the pain is.
And y'all, I'm not saying that
because I am minimizing the painful thing
that you may have gone through.
Like y'all don't know my story,
y'all don't know Annette's story,
but I promise you between the two of you,
we have been to hell and back too.
And so we get it.
We don't say this lightly.
We just know that this is such an important topic.
This is like the most freeing part of the heart work.
If we, you know, in another way that somebody said this to me
is if we feel like something that we did that's unforgivable
or something that somebody else that did
was unforgivable, it is like asking Jesus
to get back on the crossing, it wasn't enough.
And I don't know about you,
but I don't want to tell Jesus to get back on the cross.
Like right now he's living in his glorified body
at the right hand, he is our high priest
interceding on our behalf.
And the last thing I want to do is tell Jesus,
you know what, I really don't think you did enough.
I think I need you to get back on that cross.
So that is kind of what happens
when we're not willing to forgive other people or ourselves.
Okay, so remember, here's what forgiveness is not.
Forgiveness is not saying that what they did wasn't wrong.
No, no, it was wrong.
Forgiveness is not condoning what they did.
No, no, no, they shouldn't have done it.
And forgiveness is not letting them get away with it.
Y'all, like we don't know how justice is served with God,
but if we have to trust that God is gonna serve us justly
and give us eternity, then we have to trust
that God will justly serve sin, right?
He's not gonna give us eternity and then blow off sin.
It doesn't go that way.
So we don't need to be on the front seat of someone's pain.
Y'all, like there was a guy, total douche,
but he lived on a lake.
So I dated him way longer than I should have.
I mean, he was gorgeous, lived on a lake.
I put up with a lot.
And like, he treated me so badly.
I mean, so badly.
And he has shown, and I mean, I forgave him.
I mean, I honestly forgot about him,
but he has shown back up on Facebook.
You know, sometimes it was those old boyfriends,
they just show on back up on Facebook.
Y'all, he's a hot mess.
He is divorced, he's an alcoholic, he like hates life.
And I'm like, see, I didn't have to do anything.
God just took care of it.
Now here's the thing though.
I actually, you think I would be happy
that his life's a mess.
I'm actually not happy at all.
I want him to know Jesus.
Now I'm not, it's not my job to do that part,
but I'm praying for him and I want him to know Jesus
because at the end of the day, everybody deserves Jesus.
If I deserve Jesus, everybody deserves Jesus.
So I want you to be thinking,
you're gonna be going into a breakout room
in about five minutes with two other people.
And I believe you guys all,
now you guys have been given the worksheet
and maybe you can confirm this for me,
that there is a forgiveness prayer sheet.
Do they still get these?
Yes, okay.
So there is a forgiveness prayer sheet
that should be in one of your handouts
for you guys to download and print.
I printed like 20 of these
because you're only supposed to do one per person.
And it goes like this.
Dear Heavenly Father, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ,
I purpose and choose to forgive, there's a blank,
for blank, I release, you put their name again,
I cancel their debts and obligations to me in this issue.
Lord, I ask you to forgive me
for my unforgiveness and bitterness towards blank,
you put their name again, in this situation.
In the name of Jesus, I cancel all of Satan's power
and authority over me in this issue
because I have forgiven them and God has forgiven me.
It is done and it is now over.
Holy Spirit, come and heal my heart
and tell me your truth about this situation.
And then there's a section to say,
what is Holy Spirit telling me?
And here's the thing, you guys,
and Jackie, I think she says it somewhere in the chapter,
I may have just skipped it over.
You know you're not done forgiving that person
when if you run into them,
the main thing that you associate with them
is the thing that they did to you.
And that's when you know you're like still tethered.
And so you're like, Renee, but do you really understand?
So here's all of the people I now irony, this one woman that I had to forgive y'all.
She did. She did me dirty.
I mean, I ran a nonprofit and I had a couple of Judas's on my staff
who like I trusted with my life and shared personal stuff about my life.
And I mean, y'all, I mean, I'm telling you, I have been acute.
Like, you know, the stuff that you think the enemy says about you,
that you think nobody else really actually believes, but you believe in your head.
Like that, that's the kind of stuff that was said about me.
And this person, she like spearheaded it, like to try to get me fired.
And you know what?
If I saw her right now, I would I actually feel nothing.
I have been released because I did this forgiveness prayer four years ago.
And you know what? If she hugged me, I'd be willing to hug her back.
I don't know if we'd be friends again.
I won't trust her with anything.
But I have no pain associated with this person anymore.
So I've already told you I've had to do forgiveness with my dad.
I've had to do it with my mom because her covert my dad's behavior was over bad.
But my mom's covert behavior of tolerating bad in front of us
taught me to tolerate bad behavior.
Isn't that crazy?
Like I realized in my 30s that I needed to forgive my mom
because she set the pattern that I picked up
where I allowed people to treat me badly.
I had to forgive my sister.
Won't go there.
I already mentioned that I had to forgive some folks at work.
I had to forgive myself.
I had to forgive you guys. This was a really tough one.
I was sexually assaulted about 15 years ago,
and I had to forgive the person who did that.
And I also had to forgive, I dare say, God in that
because out of all of the things in that moment,
I was so mad at God for not protecting me in that moment
or giving me superhuman strength to like shove him off of my body and get me away.
And so I'm just letting you know, I have a long list,
and I know that Annette's about to share a forgiveness story for you all as well.
So I want you to know that
I be thinking about tonight who you need to forgive.
Now, I'm not saying in the next five minutes when you go into your breakout,
you're like, oh, my gosh, Sandra.
Sandra's like, I need to forgive so and so for this.
I'm just going to say a prayer and I'm going to be fine.
I'm just going to say you're going to be talking about it.
You're going to be talking about what it feels like to even bring that person's name up.
Talk about maybe share what happened in not a lot of detail
because you're only going to have five minutes,
but what you're why you're afraid of forgiving them,
what you're afraid might happen or your excitement to forgive them.
And then tonight or tomorrow, you're going to go
and you're going to actually go through this prayer
that you guys have in your handy dandy handouts.
And you're going to and if you have access to it tonight
and you want to do that, feel free to go ahead and do that.
And so you guys can start to do that prayer release
tonight and however you want to do it.
I'm going to pop it over to Annette,
because I'm sure she's got something powerful to jump in and say.
Powerful. Yes. Powerful.
Actually, it's going to be vulnerable and transparent
because the first thing that came to me, I really felt like I was a person.
I've had things that I've had to.
I was sexually abused by a babysitter when I was little.
I was sexually abused by my dad.
I, I forgave.
It came in layers.
I also had had to forgive my mom.
Also, interestingly enough, as Renee was saying, when I was in my 30s,
because I realized that my mom enabled the behavior
and I actually felt more anger towards my mom
than I did my dad, because my dad apologized.
My mom really didn't and didn't see how it all fit together.
But it's all definitely come in layers.
But I'll tell you, ladies, since I've been married.
You talk about forgiveness for little things that
because Arthur and I haven't been able to live under the same roof
since we've been married, that has presented some unique challenges.
But praise the Lord.
He was just approved for his green card on Friday.
And so he should have it in the next 10 days.
And I am thrilled.
I'm so thankful.
But. It has been hard
because when you are.
Maintaining a marriage relationship essentially over the phone
and he's on set when I'm off work
and when I'm at work and I don't get breaks and so
we don't get to connect or we get to talk, which
quality time is one of my love languages,
that has been really hard
because I will assign a motive to him
without even realizing it and be frustrated
and then come to realize
he didn't intend it or mean it that way at all.
He's just, he's so easygoing.
I'm definitely, I thought I was easygoing
until I married Arthur.
And then I realized that perhaps my panties
are in a bunch 24 seven, but he,
and he'll just go about his day
and when he gets to talk to me, he gets to talk to me
and I'm like, no, but you're out of time.
Let's do this.
Why aren't you thinking of me?
And it really has provided opportunities
where A, I needed to come before God and repent
and ask for his forgiveness.
And that B, also when we've had conversations
about what I need that hasn't gone very well
because we don't see it the same
and we're still learning and growing,
the little daily things can add up
if you don't stay on top of them and lay it down.
And even in a moment, say, God, I choose to forgive.
I choose to forgive in this moment
and this is the truth I'm gonna stand on
and this is what I believe and this is what I know.
Thank you that you're at work,
even when I don't see it or I don't feel like it,
but I choose to forgive because you've forgiven me.
And what Renee said,
really helped put it in perspective for me
because when we aren't willing to forgive someone,
it's like we're saying what God did wasn't enough.
We'll accept his forgiveness of us,
but then we don't turn around
and give that same gift to somebody else
that's been given to us.
And so that's my honest answer.
I am blessed to be married.
I am thankful for Arthur,
but I'm just being real with you in saying
that it has given opportunity for me
to practice forgiveness every day, every day.
Amen.
So.
Yup.
So good.
That's me.
So good.
Thanks for listening.
So good.
I was able to catch up in the chat
and there was two things that people questioned.
Somebody said, I'm still attracting
the wrong kind of person
and I don't think I'm in the victim's seat anymore.
Remember, you guys are on a dating sabbatical
for the rest of HeartWork.
So hopefully you're not dating somebody right now,
but I promise you when you get to phase two,
and this is also gonna answer question number two
I saw on there.
How do I stop being the rescuer?
You're gonna hear a lot about the divine masculine
and the divine feminine.
You're gonna talk about how to date healthy
in different levels.
You're gonna learn about healthy boundaries
and you're gonna learn about
how to just navigate dating differently.
And so I really feel like
I'm still attracting the wrong guy
and how do I stop being the rescuer?
I promise a lot of that you're gonna get to unpack
a little bit more in phase two.
I can say I'm the rescuer because I'm a rescuer.
Is the biggest thing I've had to let go of
is I cannot produce the outcomes for other people.
Sometimes I'm gonna have to let people fall.
Sometimes I am gonna have to let them not like me.
And because the biggest thing that happens
when you've been a victim is you really worry
about what other people think about you
because there's like some warp thing that happens
that you start to think like I'm damaged goods.
And so you start to think I'm worrying
about what other people think about me in this situation.
But it kind of, that gets us a little bit away
from the topic of forgiveness.
I'd love to go down that rabbit trail
because I do a lot of the teachings in phase two,
but I'm not gonna go down that rabbit trail.
I just wanted to give you that visual
so to kind of carry that with you as you go forward.
There were three other, there's just a couple
of the things that Bethany had here in our notes
that I did not go over that I wanted to say.
When you are staying in the victim's seat,
you kind of have this helplessness.
You tend to blame others
and you're still focused on the past.
Then you become a survivor.
And you know, like I think about that Destiny's Child song
that I used to run to all the time, I'm a survivor.
We're like, woo-woo, I'm a survivor.
So a survivor reclaims their power.
They take responsibility for their choices.
They choose to heal and get self-care
and they start saying no,
but they're still continuing to live and exist.
We want you to go.
past surviving. We want you to thrive. Thriving focuses on the future. We believe that we
have the power regarding our future. We surround other people who are thriving. So that is
how you attract healthier people. You put healthier people in your life. If you stay
friends with people who are miserable, people who are moaning, people who are complaining,
people who are not forgiving, if you are following on Facebook, Jackie and I just talked about
this tonight. She said, please get them off this Facebook page. If you're on the Facebook
page that says, are we dating the same guy? Get off. If you keep looking for shitty people,
you will find shitty people. That is just kind of the direction your life will take
you in. And so we want you to surround yourself with not just survivors, but thrivers. That's
the name of the game here. Okay. We're going to break you out into group of three. So let
me pause. Welcome back. I know people are trickling in back. Some people might be using
that entire 60 seconds to come on back.
Well I'm so glad you all are all back or coming back, coming on back. And I know that
forgiveness, like especially like, oh yeah, you just talked about forgiveness in 30 minutes
and like that didn't make it all go away. But I'm hoping that reading through the material,
watching the videos and as kind of unpacking it. So depending on where you are in the heartwork,
I know that sometimes we bring up a topic that you've not yet watched the videos on
or read yet. So as you get to that section in the chapter or you watch those videos,
might kind of come together more. You're going to see that forgiveness shape that I was talking
about, but now is your chance to open the floor. Ask us burning questions that came
up during your time or just even from my talk, share what the fruit that came out of your
time that you had with the women, something aha moment you had. And it could have been
something that Annette said or something that somebody else said. So I always love sharing
the ahas because I feel like that's a great way. Megan.
Hi, one thing that I was kind of thinking about and I shared with the lady I was talking
with was I feel like in some ways I diminish what I've gone through in some victim things.
So then when I do share what happens with people, it then brings up all those feelings.
So I know that diminishing is not forgiving, but I've just was kind of trying to figure
out like how do I work through that even in forgiveness with diminishing what I go through.
And I know that like it's something that God has shown me lately that I do a lot with certain
things. Do you find that like you can be honest with
yourself about the fullness of it? And so that's where you might have to on that forgiveness
sheet when it says what you're forgiving them for. You can list out every blessed thing
and kind of like have and even like put it down and then pick it back up to go like,
OK, God, is there anything else about this situation that I'm not that I'm diminishing
there? I'm not saying that out loud. And I get that, Megan, because I kind of used to
do that, too. Like I used to say things very flippantly and like, oh, that thing happened
to me. And people would be like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like that's a pretty big thing. And
so I would say when you start to fill out that forgiveness sheet, try to let to write
down everything that you think, lay it down, pray about it, come back to it just to make
sure that that list is complete, because the first person that you need to be the most
honest with is with yourself and with God. Like that's where you can practice not diminishing
it. And I will be honest with you. Not every person is going to hear your full story. Right.
And you know that. So it's kind of like as you share your testimony, like there are parts
of my testimony and I've said that to Brian, like there's parts of my testimony you've
not heard. You've not wanted to hear all of it. So don't be surprised if some of it comes
out over here at this speaking engagement over here. So do it with yourself. Give yourself
time to fill in the blank and kind of get that fullness of it. I would say start there
if that helps you not diminish it. Sometimes we don't want to say it all because
is then we have to face it. And that's harder to do. But then also trust that that might
be like something that God's going to show you in layers. And like you may lay it all
down with somebody this week, but a year from now, God might reveal more to you. And it
wasn't just that you were diminishing it, but maybe you're more ready for the rest of
it. Does that help a little bit?
Yeah, I think too, sometimes I like, I think the enemy uses doubt and diminishing at the
same time a lot. That's what I've been kind of seeing is just like almost doubting that
like, was I really a victim in it too sometimes, even though like, it really is, but I also
know what I need to move forward.
Yeah. Well, here's the thing, like, you don't even have to sit on the word victim. If that
downplays it too much, you can be like, what happened in this situation? Maybe I wasn't
a victim in this situation. Maybe I went in knowingly, and this bad thing happened. So
maybe take out the word victim, because what the what the enemy is trying to tell you there
is, it didn't happen. But then it's stopping you from forgiving the person. And so it's
keeping you tethered to it. And so forgiving them, that's a good thing for you guys to
hear. Forgiving doesn't mean minimizing. So know that when you forgive so and so, even
if you don't name all the things that they did, you forget. Now, if you forgive them
and go back to them and let them keep doing that to you, then that's kind of minimizing
it, and it's not receiving the healing. But if you've released that person, you forgiving
them is not minimizing it. So don't let the enemy convince you that either. So hope that
helps. Eloise.
Okay, every time you talk in different sessions, you have said something that I get an
aha moment. And so when you did scarcity a few weeks ago, and all that, that was
revolutionary for me. So in my word for the year is abundance. So and not scarcity. So
yay. But when you said something about your mother, that your mother set you up to
believe something. And I don't remember what that something was. But from the word go,
my mother set me up for believing that marriage is a bad thing. And that there's a lot
of pain that comes with marriage. I was like, 12, 13, something like that. And out of the
blue, she walked up to me and she said, I hope you never get married, so that you don't
have to go through the pain I've gone through. She said that and never anything else. She
never explained it. She's didn't like, you know, I'm so sorry, I shouldn't have said
blah, blah, blah. And, and so tonight, it just came up that I didn't realize how much of a
lie that I believe I've had deliverance over all this, I pray for my mother, you know, all
this. And so this is the biggest layer of the onion ever. So we must be getting a lot
closer.
And here's the thing, you guys, sometimes they do it innocently. Like, you know, my mom was
doing what you know, my mom came from a very Italian culture where no matter how badly your
husband treats you, you say, and you take it. And so she didn't think she was doing anything
wrong. And I love my mother. I mean, I love her. And she's my hero and my champion. But just
that little nuance really helped me realize like, oh my gosh, like when I when I keep people
out here, I have really good boundaries, though. But if I let them in my inner circle, I let them
walk all over me. And I really pay attention to that, because I watched my mom do that. So my
dad's behavior was obvious, but her tolerating the bad behavior and almost, as we just said,
minimize, she was really good at minimizing my dad's behavior. Yeah. And so that taught me to
take it. And so doesn't make her bad. It just makes it another layer of that story for me to
work through. So I'm so glad that that spoke to you. And whatever that it needed to.
Yeah, because my dad wasn't bad, but he was had a head injury during World War Two. And so it
changed everything about, you know, his clarity and wisdom or lack of and all that. And so she
lived with that, didn't expect that to, you know, be a big part of their marriage. And so but, you
know, back then.
They didn't talk about things.
They kept things hidden.
And so, you know, I never knew he had a head injury
till I was 28, nobody ever told me.
And, you know, it's like, something's wrong here
and I have no idea what it is.
And that just like blew open the doors, so.
So you might even have to forgive people
for not telling you because I'm sure for the longest time
they thought they were protecting you,
but it really, it could have helped you
have so much of a better perspective
if you had just been told that.
Yeah, and I, you know, and my cousins,
and I just, I always felt like I was a fifth wheel,
you know, second class citizen because, you know,
poor little Eloise, you know, kind of deal, so.
Well, no more poor little Eloise.
Right, this is abundance Eloise.
Abundance Eloise, I love it.
Rusana, what do you have for us?
Thank you, you bet.
Sorry, I just realized actually when you were just talking
when piggybacking off of what Megan said,
and then you just happened to say it,
that your mom minimized things,
you just like, my aha just happened.
And I was like, my husband died from accidental overdose
20 months ago.
And after I'm hearing you say this,
I think I need to ask for my eldest son,
at least for forgiveness for him,
because I'm realizing like I minimized a lot of stuff
in his behaviors and actions and stuff,
and not justified, but just being like,
now I'm seeing like what I did,
so it wouldn't look as bad,
but there were times I didn't know he was using.
And so, but excusing the behavior or being like, okay.
And so he would get mad.
He's like, why didn't you just leave sooner?
Like he was angry with me.
And finally, we had a really great talk about stuff.
And he was putting on me things that,
and I called him out on it.
I was like, you're putting this on me
when it was your father,
but because I'm the only one here and I was the safe one,
you could just dump on me.
And there's a couple of things.
And he just like looked at me and like, it changed things.
But now I'm realizing, thank you for both of you saying like,
oh my, I realized I minimized bad things and justified.
And that's where, this is where it comes in.
I'm sorry, when I spoke to the other women,
the lovely women that I was talking to,
the forgiveness part, I knew off the bat,
she said, I think on there,
she's like, we're the first five.
And so I could think of a couple,
but the two I thought of immediately
was my late husband and myself.
And I did not wanna do it.
I did not, and a couple months prior to that,
my aunt was talking, cause I had this rage.
I had this rage and anger.
And I do kickboxing and jujitsu to help with that rage.
But I will tell you, she's like,
you need to forgive yourself.
I didn't realize as I was telling her all this stuff
and it took me months that I was like, okay.
And then I joined this program
without even knowing all this stuff.
And then I'm at the forgiveness part.
And I took a couple of days
because I couldn't forgive Jeff or myself.
And I, cause I had to admit what he did multiple times
and how he abandoned our family.
And I don't mean just physically in eternity,
but he abandoned us long before.
And there was grief of that prior
and of role of husband and father.
So anyway, dealing with that.
And I moved forward and I was telling the ladies
that I finally did that.
And I had to forgive myself for the toleration
that I did with certain things.
And I didn't realize as I was doing it
because I said it out loud,
I started sobbing, I was crying.
And it was just like this release that I didn't even know
I had within myself.
And I think it was just scared to admit
to see my flaws in that
because I was taking ownership of the things
that I could have.
What is it?
Whatever is hindsight is 2020.
So now I see that,
but like we have a God that redeems us with us.
So at least I'm walking in that forgiveness now.
So I think it's just,
so I was encouraging some of the women.
I was like, don't delay.
I was like, I'm not doing it, I'm not doing it.
But I knew it was, if I didn't do it,
it was not gonna allow me to propel forward
in this program, which is what I wanna do.
Cause I'm almost done with phase one.
I told the girls, I was like,
I just gotta wrap my list about my man.
I love it.
And you know, and the thing is like,
when you know better, you do better, right?
That's Maya Angelou always says,
when you know better, you do better.
And so now you know better.
So you're gonna do better.
And what a gift to our children for us to say,
hey, you know what?
I've had a chance to reflect back on this
and I need to ask your forgiveness
because I think I did this.
And at the time, you know what?
I was so in the middle of it.
I didn't even notice how bad it was.
Was it's kind of like and so now that we're both kind of getting some clarity and we're getting some space and breath like
Wow
Like wow, like y'all when I first got saved I was this aware of my sin now, you know a million years later
I'm way more aware of my sin. And so the cross just has to get bigger
and so
What a gift to give your children that to be able to say like hey
I've done some more work and more healing and I need to ask for your forgiveness. Like what an opportunity for
For you to model that to your son too. So I love that and i'm so sorry
You went through that and i'm so glad that you're here in your healing journey, and I know god's got a beautiful redemptive story for you
So glad you're here. Um, audrey
You're up girl
Hi, can you hear me? Yes
Yeah, thank you. Um, i'm glad to be here first time
I will share with the lady in my group and cindy and jennifer that I had no idea what I was signing up for
When I came here
I just saw a program and I got it. I was like, I don't know why i'm here, but it's all making sense
I'm glad
I am here and I have this safe space to kind of process
And get healing. So this is really good
How many aha moment one of them was when you're talking about?
people pleasers and
Narcissistic people
And how they have one thing in common, which was control
Um, one of the reason why I ended up here because I was in a marriage somebody who was narcissistic in quotes
And I can call him out of being controlling wanted to control me everything else
But I realized I was doing the same thing
Like you said like people please people presents to it who loves and gives because I also want to have control
So control was a big thing
um
So it doesn't excuse what he did, but also understand that I have a part in it and we both
Need forgiveness. So that was really good for me and I think it helped me to pull another layer of forgiveness and just
Release him. So, thank you
You bet you guys that was the hardest thing for me to hear back in my 20s
like my pastor said that to me because I was like
I don't know about y'all but like i've always warned that the codependent people pleaser badge like
Out of everybody on the triangle, we're the better ones like there's the victim they suck
They're the loser right when they say the victim and then you got the narcissist the people pleaser, man
We're just getting stuff done. We're just getting stuff done and we're making everybody happy
So the first time somebody said well, you know renee codependency is it's a form of manipulation
It's a form of control. I was like
What?
me
No
And it is because we want to feel safe so badly and we want to feel loved so badly
We will do whatever it takes to create that safety around us
And so that it's a covert way of it
So it just looks prettier and it gets real reward in marriages and it gets reward in social services
And as a teacher as a therapist and even in church ministry like that people pleasing role gets a lot of reward
Um, but it could be just as unhealthy for you and other people so
i'm glad that that spoke to you and i'm glad that you brought that up because it's really um,
It's really a good thing to learn earlier in life. Not
Can't wait as long as me, um anybody else, um, i'm not going to make a stay on it's the 20 after the hour
Um grace, what you got?
Hi, thanks so much for having me. I'm, so sorry. My camera is broken, which is why you can't see my face
um, my question isn't related so that's why I wanted to go last but I put like a question in the ask the coach about
I just joined the program. Um recently
And I wasn't expecting like memories and emotions to come up, but they are coming up
And I was just wondering as they come up. How do I deal with them?
I'm journaling giving them to god, but I feel like I don't want to walk away with all these things still on the surface
um
You have a lot of options. Are you able to come at all on the prayer calls in the mornings by any chance?
I don't know. I'm gonna try unfortunately. It's not unfortunate. I live in australia
So they're two in the morning for me, but i'm gonna try it on days. I'm not working
Okay
On sunday nights when they're on seven o'clock. What time in the morning is that for you?
um
I'll double check. I think it's 5 a.m. Which is doable. That's so
Sunday nights try sunday night calls. Um, because that will definitely help I would definitely say
sharing some of what you're experiencing
In the your app in in the ask a coach thing because there's at least what annette
There's at least three or four of you over there that can respond to at least two of you
Over that that can respond to you
So it would
be a great opportunity for you to be able to just kind of unpack and kind of release
some of that.
And Grace, I don't know, I'm sorry, I don't know when you put it in there.
Oh, two people have already responded, it's just that Jackie told me to come on to a call
and to ask and live.
That's why I did.
I wouldn't have jumped on.
Okay, sorry.
No problem.
Thank you though.
So people have been active.
Thank you.
So that's one way to do it.
There's a couple of the ways for you.
I think that I don't know if your church allows for a pastoral care visit.
Sometimes they have pastoral care pastors.
Sometimes there can be a female pastor on the team.
Sometimes churches offer freedom prayer.
I'm actually on my freedom prayer team at my church.
It's a great way for people to kind of like get the hook off.
Sometimes you need to book a massage.
Like I swear to God and have people rub it off of you.
Like literally, like there's something about massages taking it out or like doing a meditative,
like if you're, I mean, yoga or something like yoga, I don't, I know some people get
all in their tithers about yoga, but like some kind of movement sometimes is a great
way to release the emotion.
Like I learned on, when I was taking bar classes, like, you know, the ballet bar.
And so sometimes movement, sometimes massages, talking to somebody, taking, you know, barefoot,
like grounding, doing grounding work where you get in your bare feet for 20 minutes against
the ground.
Like I'm trying to give you a lot of creative to release it besides sharing it in the page
and letting a coach get back to you and then trying to come on at least the Sunday night
prayer call.
So I think that all of those options might be really helpful for you.
Thank you.
That is really great.
Thank you so much.
You bet.
You sound beautiful.
I can listen to you read the phone book.
All right.
I'm going to wrap it up.
Annette, did you want to say any final comments?
Tonight was great.
It's I'm always grateful for how a Holy Spirit shows up in the time and gives people what
they need.
Amen.
Well, you guys, it's an honor to get to sub here the last few weeks.
And I know you'll have Bethany back, who is amazing and sweet and fabulous.
And if you stay with the program, you'll continue to see me here and there.
And Annette and I are not just teachers of the program.
We have lived it and walked it out with you.
And we're so grateful for this community.
You will not find a safer community to walk through your single season with, to champion
you, to help lift you up and encourage you.
And so if you feel like you don't have a sister squad, if all your friends are married or
think you're crazy for even dealing with this, this is your safe space.
And we're here with you through all of it.
So take advantage of it as much as you can.
Annette, can you pray us out?
Absolutely.
God, thank you for this time.
Thank you for the work that you do in us to transform us and to help us step into our
most authentic selves and give us the freedom that can only come from you as we surrender
and let go and forgive and come into alignment with your perfect plan and purpose for our
lives and to utilize the gifts and talents that you've given us.
Be with each of these ladies as they go forward in the week and may your Holy Spirit just
quicken to them specifically what you have for them in the week ahead.
In your name I pray.
Amen.
Have a great week, everybody.
Bye, ladies.