I'm going to share my screen.
I'm making a post right now.
Oh, thank you. That's amazing.
A lot of people are on that other call. I just left early.
Oh, after that, like, Michaela was getting her question answered.
And Carrie and Sean were there.
Okay, cool. How did the call go?
I mean, it's like a nuts and bolts thing. So probably the people who asked the questions got what they needed.
Okay, cool.
Well, hi, Carrie.
Is your snow starting to melt at all?
Yeah, finally. It's like 30. It's above freezing today for the first time in weeks.
It's fine.
That's fine.
No, that's awesome. It's like sunny here. It's like almost going to be in the 60s. It's like there's the bipolar Ohio I was waiting on.
Oh, my gosh. No, we're nowhere near that. We're just above freezing. We're like 38 degrees.
Yeah.
Yeah, you guys definitely are a little bit different than Ohio. So it's definitely a little bit cooler.
Well, let's, um, let's dive in to this amazing book. Did you all? Oh, hey, Margo. I didn't even see you there.
Hi. Oh, it's five degrees there. That's terrible.
Sorry, I'm just re repositioning myself to a different desk. Yeah, it's freezing and super snowy. And it just snowed. I'm at home today because it snowed more this morning. And I was like, I'm not driving into the office.
Yeah, I am.
God, when the sun is out, I'm just happier. I don't know about y'all. I mean, I've always been somebody who I've lived with, like all four seasons like this majority of my life.
But there's something about the sun this year that I just really need right now in the winter.
So praise God for the sun. It's a new day. We are all alive. We all have amazing things ahead. All right, Chrissy, amazing things are ahead of you. Carrie, amazing things. Margo, amazing things in your business and in your life.
And a lot of life. I was really thinking about how it really is just day by day, step by step, decision by decision. Right. And the scaling book really has, you know, is a different way of thinking. It's a truly a different way of looking at time. And so this chapter, did you guys all read it?
I don't think I'm totally caught up because I just started the book this weekend, but.
Okay. Did you get through chapter two? Do you know?
I think I'm still on. I'm actually listening. So I think I'm still on chapter one, but that's okay. I'll catch up.
All right. Well, we will, for those of us who did read it or have anything they want to share, we're going to just talk a little bit about chapter two. I believe it's called compress your time. Is that correct? Okay.
So I think this chapter is really powerful and valuable for our community and how we talk a lot about time and like how to look at time. And yeah. So Christy, you want to start us off? Anything pop out at you or anything was like, wow, that or challenge you?
Yeah, I'll be above one thing. I think the first thing that popped out was, I don't know. I just felt like he was going to go into some like magic number of like how much time you should allot to this like big goal that you're setting. And then he didn't.
He did not.
I was like very like thinking that the first introduction and first chapter was like sign of hope.
foreshadowing there was going to be a magic three-year time point for it.
And I was super comfortable with that.
And then he didn't say three years, he was like, half your timeline.
Or what if you did it in 12 to 18 months?
I was like, oh, whoa, that was not the time I was mentally prepared for you to be putting
on my goal, since I haven't even identified the goal yet.
And so yeah, yeah, that was it was kind of really thought provoking in that way.
Yeah.
I don't.
I don't know.
Yeah.
You know, he gave these like, five steps to scale by Elon Musk, which is not my favorite
person.
But it says something like, remove parts or process steps do not optimize a thing that
should not exist.
That's like kind of key for me.
Because I'll do these like, tiered structures as like a safety net, where I will make a
strategy and a plan to like, get me to where I want to go.
And there's like all these building blocks, which I think Corinne talked a lot about yesterday.
And like building blocks.
And then you know, in chapter two, they're like, take away those building blocks, take
away everything that doesn't need to be there.
And then like, you know, how do you get to where you where you want to be?
And so yeah, it's it's like circling in my head.
Yeah, no, that's great.
That is fantastic.
So I want to add on to that he because he basically this was where he was looking at.
Hold on, I wrote some notes here.
He said, looking at time as a tool.
And that I think is why, because if you think about it, Christy, the reason why you were
waiting for him to give like, okay, in the next three years, we're going to break, we're
going to work backwards from three years.
And in this month, you do this and then this six months and then in this year, but he doesn't
do that.
He talks about how that's a linear way of looking at time.
And I just had a mindset call on another community about this very topic last night.
And I was like, we are just conditioned and we know how to look at time linear from a
linear place.
There's also a spiritual component where time is not actually linear or or a tool.
It's like God works outside of even like our 24 hour clock time.
But what he really talks about in this chapter is how do I use it as a tool?
Like how do I leverage time?
How do I, you know, look at it from a just not linear?
I don't know.
Do you have anything to add to that?
Or even Carrier Margo, if you're like having any thoughts about this whole, his big concept
was like, time is your tool.
Let's not do this by this date, even though he did talk about deadlines.
But so.
Yeah, he definitely like hinted at that, like I'm still I was just looking at where I'm
at.
I'm still in the first chapter.
And he definitely hinted at that when he was giving like examples and testimonials of other
people's success.
And I was like, he's gonna he's gonna make me bring my deadline or my goal, whatever,
like timeline up so much, not he make me but like, that's the part of the framework, right?
Like you tighten it up so much that it's not possible.
And you have to think like, way outside the box.
And I was just chatting with Gabby in a meeting with her about like, time is one of those
things that has always been a barrier for me, I work a full time job, I have two kids,
I have lots of like other commitments.
And the thing that always kind of falls off has always been my business.
And I want to change that story.
And I think part of the problem is that I continue to think about time in a linear way.
Like I only have this many minutes, I only have this many hours in a day.
But what if there was a way around that?
What if I could like, move beyond that linear timeline and like find a way to scale or find
and find a way to like exponentially grow, which was some of the examples, right?
Like connecting with someone, I forget this, it was like a software company or something,
but connecting with someone to access their network or their contacts.
So you don't have to make all of those individual calls yourself.
So I feel like this is probably an area that I need to spend some time because I will constantly
say that I don't have enough time.
And I'm always working on it.
I'm always working on like reorganizing my schedule or cutting some things that cutting
some fat off that I don't need, or like, you know, being more specific with my scheduling,
but maybe I'm not.
I just need to think like, wait, outside the box.
So I'm excited to get a little bit more into it.
No, that's a lot.
Yeah, I think that that's what I started by saying
is like, stop optimizing for things that don't matter.
It's like you're saying, like you're spinning your wheels,
you're spending time on it,
but are you actually doing the stuff
that actually makes the difference or not?
And that was like kind of mind blowing
because like constantly busy,
but like that 27 minutes it takes me
to like pack a Shopify order
and take it over to the UPS store to drop it off.
It's not good 27 minutes spent.
You know, I could just pay an extra dollar
and have Amazon do it on my behalf.
And it's like, that's a much better use of that dollar
than my 27 minutes.
And it's like, you're saying Margo,
you've already optimized your schedule.
You've already trimmed your fat.
And in my head, I have to,
but honestly, I'm not actually sure that I really have
if I continue to kind of like go back into default mode
of like, well, like I can do this.
So I'm going to do it instead of like actually no,
just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
We default to what's comfortable too, right?
So we've been doing something as long as we have,
you know, however many years we've been alive,
this is the way that I've done it.
It's so easy, especially when you're met
with something that's big or scary,
so easy to default and just do.
Like sometimes when I'm really overwhelmed with life,
I go do laundry because laundry is predictable
and I can just wash the clothes, fold the clothes
and put the clothes away.
And then I feel really accomplished
because I did something,
but I didn't do anything of value like for my business
or whatever, right?
I just like did some chores.
Yeah.
In my other book club last night,
we were talking about chapter one of Atomic Habits,
we're reading Atomic Habits.
And in there it says, progress is not linear,
results get delayed if you try to do it linearly
because the habits stack.
And so he has like this curve that goes like this
where it's like, you're forming your habit
and you're doing your reps.
And then all of a sudden you see it just like skyrocket
because now the habit is like ingrained and taking off.
And then it says, goals are about results,
systems are about process.
The goals are about setting a direction
where the systems are best for making actual progress.
And so I think like just combining
that like Atomic Habits first chapter
and this like second chapter of Compressing Time,
where he talks a lot about systems developments
and like, what are you doing?
How are you doing it?
Are you doing things that don't matter?
Are you doing things that do matter
like that are gonna move the needle?
And I think that that's probably like,
where I'm sitting this week is like,
I need to go through and like look at all of my systems
and processes and it's like, okay, I've identified that,
shipping these Shopify orders are a waste of my time.
So I'm gonna like put the MCF thing through today,
but like what other processes am I doing that in the end
or need to be optimized outside of myself
and automated potentially, et cetera.
Yeah.
No, that's really good.
I think it kind of this whole idea of compressing time
in the chapter he talked about how he put off
the end of his PhD and he had put it off for so long
and his wife actually went to him and was like,
hey, I can tell that this is like really upsetting you
and like, there's like this cloud over you.
And she was like, why don't you just like go finish it?
And so he literally like drove up,
I guess to the campus or wherever it was
and he finished his PhD in three weeks.
Like he just finished what was left in three weeks
that he had been waiting for a while on.
And now there was a sacrifice, a cost to that,
but there was also was a cost to continually putting it off.
And correct me if I'm wrong, Christie or Gabby
or whoever else read chapter two.
Didn't he mention like,
if you had a gun held up to your head
and you had to do something,
like all of a sudden like it would get done.
You'd figure out a way.
You would figure out a way.
Right.
And I've heard that, I don't know about you all,
if you've heard this before,
Christians say stuff like this too.
At church I've heard it like,
if your wife was threatened
or your kids were threatened in front of your face,
like you would go do that thing.
immediately right like kind of this idea of like if the pressure's there or the like the cost is
right in front of your face like i'm willing to do things but i i don't know about you guys but
for me i still kind of struggle with those kind of examples because it's not my reality
and i'm like man okay how do i create a timeline so accelerated
so a goal so impossible without having a gun pointed at my head
like what's it gonna take how do i do something like that do you guys
it's kind of an open question if you guys have any thoughts about it but that was like a thought
that kept coming up to me like
i'm cool though because part of i'd like to be i'd like to have a million dollars in my
in my um i don't even remember what they're called in my investments like my one of my big
goals is to have a million dollars in my investment portfolio by the age of 40
and that's three years and two months and that's about 800 000 maybe 850 000 dollars like by that
time is like the amount of money i'm talking about and i'm like that's impossible i don't have a gun
to my head i'll be fine at 40 if i don't if i don't actually do it do you guys know what i mean
like yeah do you want real estate you include real estate in your investment portfolio the value of
the real estate that you own so if i did then my goal would be five hundred thousand dollars
you need five hundred thousand dollars or you need to buy a couple more houses i would need
to buy a couple more houses and get my business going and and it but but this is the whole idea
it's forcing i'm like i'll just do 45 like the extending the timeline he literally says if a
timeline is long it's wrong he just said yeah ouch that's like an elon musk quote for sure i know
so any thoughts on that or what are you guys where are you guys at with that
yeah i do so my first thought is like is it tied to a powerful enough why your goal because to me
like an easy one for me to think about is like my relationship with my kids so because that
has a very real time limit like timeline like they will be out of my care in a limited amount
of time my influence over them is going to go away quickly and their desire for my influence over them
is also going to go away quickly so for me one thing that's really important is and it's probably
a bit of an idol is like i'm everything i do is to keep open communication with my kids because
my parents didn't do that and it's like i feel like if i can always have open communication
then we can always have some semblance of a healthier relationship at least that's kind of
like a like we need that to happen at least to build off of and so to me my decisions around
like how i spend my time with my kids how we parent is all the pressure comes from there's
limited time and it like sometimes yeah i want to go hang out with my friend megan and go on a walk
i want to go uh hang out with this other person even though maybe i already hung out with somebody
else this week and like not to say that that's not good for me to do but there's limits to that
um because the more i'm away the cost is i'm not uh setting uh
like i'm not building upon the relationship with my kids right by being present um and so for me
that timeline with this really powerful why is what forces not forces is such a negative
connotation but really pushes me to evaluate what decision i'm making in the here and now
so to me i'm like hey if i have a financial goal like and sometimes this is hard so when like
i'm not money driven i'm not money motivated i'm definitely purpose driven and purpose
Motivated. So for me, it's like I've got to find the why
behind the
Financial piece and
It has to have like a serious purpose a serious impact
otherwise, it's it's not gonna push me enough like it's not going to and
Honestly guys like I know I've mentioned to I think all of you have heard this like I was pushed to a very extreme point
Financially for me to be willing to apply for a job. There was literally no other option
We could not we had no credit availability could not apply for any couldn't pay our credit card
But like we couldn't pay things
For me to then give up some comfort that I had with like being present with my kids
And I know I'm rambling a little bit, but I'm just like sharing off-the-cuff here
Like
so to me that money motivation
To get the job was associated with I can't give my kids extra my kids have never been extra cruising activities
I we can't even go take a vacation
We can't even go out to eat more than to raisin canes once a week like these things that like I want to give them
because I want to be a good parent the way that I have a good father and
It was just like I had to be worked down like okay, I'm not money motivated
But I need the money to make this purpose happen. I
I
Don't know like I know I'm a little bit on my soapbox, and I'm just like
Going but like that's just a to me like is your why powerful enough?
Yeah, I think that's a great question
Yeah
Yeah, I think it also impacts your timeline too because like as you're making a decision
Like what would it take for me to cut this timeline in half like
You might not be willing to sacrifice what it would take to cut that timeline in half. You know it's good I
Think I said like last week on this call. It's like I gave up a lot of volunteering at my kids schools
to do more of the business things and
I'm not even sure that that really aligns with who I want to be a long-term. You know in the short term
Maybe but I don't think I would compress a timeline that would prevent me from being
present in that environment and like
You know
Complementing what they're already learning at the school with my perspective as well
Yeah, that's a really good point I think
That's definitely something to keep in mind
But then something else like that I like I'm my example earlier with like this feels like a lot
I'm gonna go do the laundry like I
Will constantly if I feel like I'm so if I choose a timeline and then I
What are we saying accelerate that timeline?
Yeah, picking a timeline that feels almost impossible
Yeah, so I feel like that's gonna create like a story for me
And then I'm gonna be overwhelmed and then I'm gonna go find other things to do so
Something and I I kind of have worked with this a little bit in the network marketing space
Which is where I come from and something that they teach is like sometimes the dishes don't get that
Sometimes the laundry doesn't get that
Sometimes the dishes don't get that
Sometimes the laundry doesn't get done
So like similar to what you're saying Christy
But kind of in a different vein like instead of giving up things that provide you with like that you find valuable or that bring
Benefit to your life like there's probably things that we can
Be less worried about I don't want to say that you never have to do the laundry because like you do have to have
Clean clothes to wear but like there's things like that that we make that's my example because I like doing laundry
but like there's things like that that we make it into like a big deal and it has to be done and it's like if
You don't do the laundry today and somebody has to wear a pair of pants that they wore three days ago
Like who's gonna die? Like there's the gun who's gonna die? No one's gonna die
Don't do the laundry and spend an hour working on your business or spend an hour diving into some like deep work or something like
that so that's kind of like a
Tip or a technique that I learned in the network marketing space, which I'm trying to apply to this
Business that I'm brand development that I'm now on
So much so that I'm taking a six month leave of absence from my full full-time job
So I can cut out one of those big chunks of things that like is in my way
Cuz I'm constantly like butting up against it
So as much as we don't want to give up those things that are really we're really passionate about or we're really that are really
Valuable or that bring us like immense joy
There's probably things that we can cut or reduce or worry less about
that would free up lots of time and a
second
Part of that, I would argue, is having someone in your life who will help you.
Doesn't have to be a partner, could be a friend, could be a parent, could be a
cousin, could be someone who knows and believes in the goal that you're
driving towards. And like, asking for help, which is also something that's
really hard for me to do, but something I am practicing
constantly. Like, I can't, I don't have time. Like,
my kids are teen, pre-teens and teens, so I'm starting to be like, guys, I have
work to do tonight, I need you to clean up the kitchen after dinner, which is
like, like, really hard for me to do. But I'm
trying to create more space and time and, like, worry less
about the things that don't actually matter.
Yeah. Another little rant. No, that's good.
We're talking about, sorry, we're talking about chapter two today,
right? Yeah, about time, like, how he uses time as a tool.
And yeah, he talked, so we kind of just talked about, like,
that was really great, like, talking about the why, talking about,
you know, like, why would I even want to compress my time as it is,
right? Like, it's a good thing to think through.
And I'm noticing he, you know, he's speaking to a lot of
people who already have a business that's
going, but I think it's a limiting belief to
keep, to think it's not for us, because what he's teaching can, like,
literally 10x, I think, any business at any point in time,
even in our own lives. And he said, he said this, he said,
make a deadline so pressing that it feels impossible.
So I'm over here, when I heard that, I immediately was, like, stressed.
I feel stressed. I feel anxiety in my body. I don't know if anyone else did, but
I was like, oh lord. And, but then he was, like, actually
talking about how people don't get stressed and don't get anxious, because
it actually is, that way of thinking is the way that actually helps you save
your energy, save your resources, and actually get, like, this super hyper
focus. And it actually, it, I think if we could get past the
stress and anxiety, because he says that a lot of people, like, respond that way,
but it's actually, this is the way to, to seeing the other side of that. And he
says, then he said this, and I want to hear your guys' thoughts or, or if you
have anything else to add, but, like, he's, like, write down your big goal,
which we've kind of been talking about these big goals. He said, now, what if you
only had three years to do it? Now, what if you only had 12 to 18 months
to do it?
Exactly, Margot.
I held back the sound that went with that.
That is literally the premise of this chapter. And looking at time as a tool,
not a linear, I have to do this by this amount of time. And so he used this
example of this man, who was like, he had all these amazing port, like,
portfolios, these homes in the UK, and what he really wanted to do was, like,
sell them all, be more, spend more time with his wife, and get his coaching
business going. And he was like, you know, Ben asked him, how many years do you see
yourself doing that? He's like, you know, by the time I'm like, 66, or 65, which
gave him like 11 years. So his big goal, he was like, that's going to take me 11
years. And then Ben was like, well, what if it took you three? And then what if it
took you 12 to 18? And this man completed his goal in a year, his 11 year goal, he
did it in one. And he said he was the happiest he's been. He lost 10 pounds,
like him and his wife were thriving. And he was what 50 that would have put him at
54. So he did his goal was like mid 60s. And then like at 55. He's like, then I have
all this time to like write a book and like actually build my coaching business. And like,
all of that next 10 years was able to be put towards this second like, idea that he had.
And it just blows my mind, y'all. I mean, of course, I don't have that kind of portfolio.
I'm not married. I'm not there yet. But where am I then in my life right now?
Right? Like, what can I
leverage if I was real he talks this about this a lot you guys he talks about being honest and
rigorous with myself with ourselves yeah what could we do what could actually be possible
so I don't know if you guys have any thoughts about that or yeah I loved when he was talking
about like time as a tool because what made me laugh is when he was telling the story and he's
like okay what if you had to do it in a year and it's like they almost get offended that he would
ask and I'm like why get offended why like there's just like each person probably has their
own individual belief that comes up right when they get asked that you know whatever it is that
they think they can't or they say they're afraid of failure or whatever and they're like offended
that you would even ask them to step into whatever that fear the reality of that fear in your mind is
but it's so good like tool like time is such a tool because um
if you steward it well
then I think that by nature is going to remove the things that are noisy
and one thing I will say that I'm thankful for like having gone many years without a lot
financially is that I learned wow there's a lot of things that people say they have to do
where they need and I'm like I'm going without what are you talking about you have to do this
you need to do that you need that thing and so I have a very clear I feel like a very clear
a very clear vision and discernment over needs and haves and I'm able to see how people make
themselves too busy with things too much this too much that and I'm like you're just distracting
yourself from your own goals your own things that you actually want you really are yeah
Margaret and I were just talking about our call before this and and we and in America it's
particularly bad so we have a serious hustle culture very serious and I'm like okay I'm like
well while you want to go over there and juggle all these things in your life and complain about
how you can't get to where you want to go you go over there I'm going to go over here and not listen
to you because it's annoying I don't know so like to me the timeline thing is good and what I'm super
excited for is that I started getting into chapter three because there's a combination of using time
as a tool and we I'm just gonna be a little spoiler and changing your floor because it's like
what are we willing to settle with that's our floor and that is connected to worth that's
connected to vision that's connected to why that's connected to why in the world do I wake up and go
about my days yeah totally I'm just laughing because I'm like oh my god this is me
my worth is a big part of my
limit anyways we don't need that's what we're talking about today we don't need to get into that
but you're not alone Margot yeah I know um but I love it when stuff like this comes up
the other thing I was gonna say I don't know if it's kind of it feels like an extension of what
Gabby was saying I'm not sure if it actually is you guys decide um the other thing about like
this whole time concept is we're so used to it being linear that's you know like you get up
a certain time you go to school or work at a certain time you have this many hours in the
day that you're at school you whatever that's just what we have been brought up accustomed to
and if we are looking at drastically I'm gonna say reducing but it's also like accelerating that
timeline and that feels big and scary like part of the benefit of that is that it feels big and
scary and that's going back to that gun analogy it's like that's it makes you go like I could
never but it also makes you go but what if I could and then I think that's where the growth happens
right like that but what if I could how that's the how can I mentality also like
I think some people go there and they're like that's not possible and they walk away and they
never revisit but I agree people that will sit in that discomfort will find a way and they will
grow their business will grow so I think that that's also part of it it's just the idea of
it being so big and impossible is that it's stretching you to like something that you
haven't done yet or someone someone that you haven't been yet which is a big part of like
reaching those crazy big goals.
I think that's why he asked, like, at the end of the chapter, are you willing to be
that honest and rigorous with yourself?
Because when I heard that question, I was like, nope, I'm not.
I'm not ready to be that honest with myself, but I need to put something down.
It's like, I'm just still, like, that stubborn, like, holding onto it.
Awareness is the first step, though.
It's good to be aware, and sometimes we just have to sit.
We all have our own timeline, too, to sit with that kind of awareness, you know, and
it's like, okay, like, for right now, this is my floor, so this is what I'm okay with.
But enough pressure will get put on at some point that our floor gets forced to change.
I guess I'll just, like, queue up that chapter, and I'll listen to it right after we get off
this call.
I've only gotten through half of it, and I'm like, this is good.
I believe every person on this call, specifically, is on the precipice of a breakthrough, like,
something that you're going to literally, like, break through something in your personal
life and then in your business.
I believe that, and I believe that this book is very specifically on purpose for our group
for this time, Carrie.
Listen, you can always remember, you can always remember the breakdown precedes the breakthrough.
Always.
Okay, girl?
And also, Ben Hardy, that's his name, no, no, that's his name, right, the guy who wrote
this book?
Okay.
He teams up with Dan Sullivan, that's the other guy he writes with.
I really believe God has raised him up in such a time as this to be a leader to our
generation and to this world, because he truly is a leading thought.
He's a thought leader in how to scale and how to think differently about business and
about life.
Mind you, he is a man who loves God, who loves his family, and his business comes third.
He is a family-first entrepreneur, I don't know if you guys knew that.
And he literally has built, he has five kids, and they foster children, and they've adopted
children.
And that's what I just, I just believe, like, not that we all have to have those type of
priorities, it's the simple fact that I actually believe he's trying to teach us how to not
be in the hustle culture, and still build, and still have this kind of wealth, and still
have families.
Like, every one of you on this call have a family, right?
And I do think a lot of people use their families as excuses as to not build and not create.
And so let's also keep that in mind, that I do think this is a revolutionary way of
how to scale.
And we literally are like seeing it beneath our eyes happen.
Like he just came out with this book, he just created like this group coaching program for
his own scaling network.
I mean, he's been working with people for thousands of people, but now just like us
getting a chance to like read it in a book.
And so I just wanted to say that, you know, we can also take and leave again, everything
what we need with this book and with anything that comes our way.
But what if, what if, what if all this work you guys are doing, we're doing, could pay
off in three years, and not 10?
Like, what if?
That that would be cool.
That sounds like a really cool idea.
I don't know if anyone wants to add anything, Lauren, you got something to say there, girl?
Yeah, I think one of the things that like my brain is kind of pushing back on and listening
to this audio book is like, I like this idea, and I just don't know how to execute it, I
guess, because you had said like, you know, our families can kind of be an excuse to get
in the way.
And people have talked about other things on their plate that kind of can be things
that they go to when they avoid work or things that just have to get done.
And I don't know, I just feel like I'm the first thing that I cut from the list, you
know, and then my family's the second thing that gets cut from the list.
And it's like career comes first, because that's where the paycheck comes from.
And business comes second, because that's going to get me to the place I want to be
and out of that career.
And it's just really challenging, because it's like, how do I flip that around?
How do I not sacrifice myself and not sacrifice time with my family, but still put
time and energy into the things that are going to move my business forward and move my life
in the direction that I want it to go.
There is only so much time in a day and, you know, I know when I work late nights and put
in all this energy, like it kind of, it backfires, right?
Because then it turns into burnout and then it turns into exhausted mornings and then
it turns into stressed out days and it's like, something's got to give.
And thank you, Lauren.
Anyone else feel, Lauren, like reading this, hearing these thoughts, like not alone at
all, Lauren.
I think that's part of, that is, that's part of the breakthrough here is like, okay, what
is getting poked at, where, let's just be curious.
I want you to just be kind of curious with your emotions and your feelings.
Nobody has to go scale tomorrow and like leave everything or leave their jobs.
However, it's a new way of thinking.
You said, how do I flip that around?
And I think he's going to teach us more about it actually throughout this book.
So just hold on one chapter a week.
That's all we're doing here.
And then number two, I think, I think there is a extreme discomfort that comes when you
start to scale.
There is.
And I think it's this idea of like being like rigorous and honest and like what actually
could go, what actually does need to change.
Maybe it's nothing.
Maybe it's something, right?
Were you going to say something, Gabby?
Yeah, I just wanted to share, I'll put a frame on it that it's, it might be a little radical
when I'm going to share a little, not maybe for everybody, I'm not saying it's for everybody
and I'm not saying it as I'm prescribing that this is what you should do, but what I see
a lot of times is people are very unwilling to sacrifice in the short term for the overall
goal in the long term, meaning, and usually that is, has to do with financial sacrifice,
time sacrifice, stuff sacrifice.
So for me, there is going to come a time if you're going to be someone who has a business,
you're going to have to choose at some time, whether, whenever that happens, do I keep
this secure way of making money that I've known and it continues to bottleneck me or
when do I get bold and with an ounce of wisdom, leave that sense of security?
Because when you hit a bottleneck, something does have to give and it's either you stay
where you are or you make that leap of faith into the new.
And a lot of times I think with, you know, when I was in more active in MLM and here
in this community and just being around people who are entrepreneurs, it's like, there comes
a time where that, if you're going to be a full-time entrepreneur, you're nine to five
is going to have to go.
It's just a fact.
If you want to be full-time and you want to have other priorities, it's going to have
to go.
And so that might be, okay, well, how do we get, how does my family live then for a temporary
time, maybe on less money or less things, or how do we leverage other help that we can
get?
Or again, it's temporary.
I'm not just saying you quit your job and then that's just it.
It's, you know, there's a trait you're trading off to into something new that you're building,
right?
I think the answer at some point is we have to sacrifice that comfort somewhere.
And it's always going to, it's either going to touch on the financial comfort.
It's going to touch on your time freedom.
It's going to touch on some other thing that feels good to you.
That feels important.
What's funny about, I feel like my story is, it's just the inverse for a lot of people
where it's like, I was going from not having money and being a stay at home mom, but to
being a full time working person.
And it's like, you think everyone thinks it's like, okay, that's what you want because it
meant more money.
But I was giving up, I was terrified because I was giving up all of my freedom and autonomy
is what it felt like.
And I was like, I have to sacrifice this for the goal of giving my family the purpose.
So for the mission of the purpose that I wanted to give, so it's just opposite of what a lot
of people have to face.
But because I had that perspective.
very, like what I was saying before, it's very easy for me to see now. Oh, I actually didn't,
I don't need all these things. Do I like them and want them? Yes. And do they make my life easier?
Yes. But I know now that I can sacrifice a lot for a bigger picture for a bigger purpose.
It shows for me. No, go ahead, Chrissy. I was going to comment about your,
your comments on sacrifice. And, and what Lauren said, it's like, you know, first I sacrifice
myself, then I sacrifice time with my kids. And then I wonder like, why am I even doing all of
that sacrifice in that order? And I think that I was, I was texting with Jen Grant Green, who,
when we were in San Diego, she decided she's going to quit her full time job.
And she turned in her notice. And that's like, one of the things that I would be working towards
is to quit my full time job and to move on to do other things. And so I was texting with her today,
like, how is it going? Like, how are you feeling? And then she told me that she put in a month
notice. And then I was just like, Oh, wait a minute, you know, like, shoot, like, I don't
have to like, just like, cut through quit with the two week notice, like, just because that's
what people normally do. Like, I can give whatever notice I want. And so I just like offer that to
Lauren is like, it's not necessarily linear, like it talks about in the book, like, what does it
look like if you reduce your hours at your full time job to part time 30 hours a week, or 20 hours
a week? Like, do you still have health insurance? Do you still have all this stuff you need?
It's not even an option for me. Like, my career has the job that I work has changed so much in
the last decade that I've been there. And we just came out of bankruptcy, we've done a huge massive
layoff over the last year. And now my company forgot to or forgot didn't my incompetent leader
did not file permits that are necessary for our business to operate. So right now we're in this
temporary pause. It's like, every day could be the last day that these doors are open. And I'm
the breadwinner in the household, I'm bankrolling my business, like without that job, I think
everything comes crashing down. And it's the one thing I've been wanting, like the whole reason I
started this business was to be able to leave that job. And so now I feel like my only option
is to get a different job, you know what I mean? And like, that's not the direction I want to go.
And so I'm trying to do everything in my power to make sure that I don't have to start a new career
or start a new company in order to maintain, you know, my livelihood at home and to keep
being able to fund my business. Okay, same. My company has missed three paychecks in a row.
The whole engineering team didn't show up this week. Only two people are in the building this
week. And I applied for two no interest credit cards to balance transfer all of these debts
this week. And I'm trying to figure out how I'm going to like place an inventory order for the
summer to like, you know, hit the peak sales. I applied for three jobs today to, you know,
maybe get a different position that will actually pay my salary instead of quitting with nothing.
And so I hear you 100%. It's and I've always been the breadwinner in my family. I've always
not only supported like my husband, but his mom was with us to his brother lived with us for a
while as well. And like, you know, now we have three kids and still support them. And so it's
terrifying that I'm the one. I mean, he does make a salary, obviously, but
but all the pressures I know from you. Yeah.
I'm gonna I'm gonna chime in. And again, guys, like, please hear my heart like I have a lot of
compassion for what you guys are saying. It's not easy. It's not always clear the way forward. Not
sometimes not always clear to us. So when I'm saying this is just thoughts.
Just my thoughts. Okay, just my thoughts and my opinion. This where you guys are at of the job
where you guys just described your job. Okay. When you get to three book chapter three,
this is your floor. There, there is sometimes things outside of our control. Danielle,
you actually touch on this sometimes a lot is there's things that are not in our control.
But there is always something that is in our control. And it may be a choice that we don't
want to make, like finding a new job, or pivoting something else in our lives.
wow, we really don't want to do that. But I've just decided that I'm not willing to tolerate
this floor anymore. That's all I feel clear on. I'm unwilling to tolerate this floor anymore.
That's how I felt last year before I got adopted. I was like, okay, I'm unwilling to tolerate this
floor. And I'm now to such a strong degree that now I'm going to go do the things I really was
terrified to do and don't, I never wanted to do, never, never wanted to do and actually fought
years doing years. The amount of times my husband and I talked about me getting a job is insane.
It took years for me to hit a floor low enough that I was like, I can't tolerate it anymore
and literally can't. Now it's forcing me, forcing my hand into a place of discomfort.
But man, what gifts are on the other side? Because I actually get to work in a place where I have a
lot of freedom over my expression of who I am and my beliefs, right? I'm respected. I'm valued.
My freaking CEO asked for my opinion on things, guys. You know what I mean? Like there's,
there's gifts on the other side of that. And I'm not, I'm not trying to prescribe to you guys,
go quit your jobs and go, I don't know who knows whatever crazy thing, but you have options.
You have choice. It just may not be the choice you thought you'd make.
And I say that with as much compassion as I possibly can put into the computer screen right now.
Yeah. I mean, I know that there's ultimately there's a choice, but I guess it just kind of
feels like some choices are going to make me like further away from my goal, right? It's going to
extend this timeline. And so it's kind of like, well, I know if I started working at a new company,
got a new job that would take a lot of time away from, like, cause with my job now, it's like,
I don't, I am a full-time employee, but do I put in 40 hours a week? Absolutely not.
Do I get to work from wherever I want the hours that I want to work? Absolutely. I've earned that
as an employee there. And I think I'd be losing that. And so it's kind of like, is the grass
really greener? Probably not. Well, I want to also with all of the love I have in my heart for you,
tell you, Lauren, like, what if it is though? You know, I feel like you've already decided it's not
to kind of keep you safe. And again, echoing what Gabby said, I'm not here to tell y'all,
quit your jobs. You know, in the Rainmaker family, we are not about that. We're about like,
you know, how do you, how do you leverage what you have and create something new to then be
able to like leave your job? Right. But I heard Christy and Lauren, I heard you both say like,
I'm not, I'm not sure when I'm going to get paid. I'm not sure if I'm going to,
if the door is going to close in three weeks, four weeks, months. And it just sounds like
it's shaky. There's like a shakiness there, right? What would it look like to go create
something that's like you choose to leave that and make something that's not as shaky?
Right. And I'm not saying it doesn't have to be go all in on your business, but it also can look
like, I mean, have you done a, have you done a search Lauren on what is available to you and
what you, how you could leverage your skills? Y'all, I was out here yesterday applying for jobs
that were $200,000 a year. And I'm over here like that's small. I'm like, whoa, I've grown a lot.
Okay. I know what I, I know what value I bring to the table. I know what kind of interviews I can
do. I know what kind of education I have. I know my skills. I've got references, blah, blah, blah.
But even just the act, like something so small, Lauren, the act, the simple act of like,
what, what could shift? What could shift? You don't have to shift anything actually, but like,
what could, and just what if, and this for you too, Christy, just like, what if like in these small
shifts, like it actually would create more peace and more freedom than you realize,
you know, instead of deciding that it won't before you like try something.
That's my, that's just my thought to like think through. Right. And like this book,
this scaling book, I think has the opportunity to really change the way we think,
but, but don't, and if it's pushing up against something, just take a look at it.
Great. Get, get investigated, right? Get curious with yourself. What's that, what's that touching?
because i'm usually when we're responding in fear it's touching something we're trying to hide or
keep safe or keep close and just maybe what would it look like to like begin to open to surrender
to say wait maybe there is a different way wait maybe i could do something i didn't think i could
or try something new yeah i love that i love everything you said and just i just want to
point on like i don't want us danielle and i to come across as we are prescribing and like we're
not coming from a place of having lived some stuff in life and for me guys like just to add on i'm
just i'm trying to share because i want you to see my heart um so hopefully that's coming across
but like one of the other reasons i was really terrified of getting a job was like i've had a
long journey with mental health issues so depression anxiety ocd um and part of the
reason i was terrified is because when i was a young adult i don't get a job and i hit six months
and that was like the time went off the timer went off and i would become i'd get very depressed
because like the newness of this thing would fade off and other things in my life were not healthy
and i'd get so depressed that i got fired um i'd quit and then i was like relying on my parents in
an unhealthy way like there was just things there and so i had that in my head and i was like i'm
gonna get a job and then i'm gonna get fired because i'm gonna get depressed and not show
up or i'm gonna because i'm depressed i'm the ball gets dropped in real ways and i and that's
gonna be on display now as an adult for other adults to see and my friend megan who referred
me now it's gonna reflect on it like there was a lot of like big fear um and that was a fear and i
was also afraid of it putting me into a depression and how that would also affect my family because
i'm like i've been there done that where i can't get out of bed don't want to put them into that
again okay um my husband is also going through this guys where he's been on a job and i know
we're about to go over he's been on a job for a long time he's been with the city of phoenix a
long time his boss left his position last year in march okay it took them up until january
to open up that job application and this is something my husband's been waiting for
and we've had many conversations about like the city they don't the system of the way it works
does not value people for who they are it looks at how long have you had experience
what does your resume look like that's how we qualify you so he's gotten past that for other
job opportunities that he's absolutely the best fit for he just had an interview for this job
hopefully he doesn't mind me sharing this he's not even getting a second interview
for his boss's job that he's literally been doing for the last year
and that is the floor for him okay we've been discussing his floor i cannot wait for you guys
to get into chapter three um because it's like how long are you willing to do this
how long and it's not and it's like did he want to go look for another job no does he want to start
looking for jobs no not even a little bit but it's like okay i now know i can't do this floor anymore
it's clear and when i feel for me when i feel unsure about the way forward i have to look at
what is absolutely clear i'm okay it's clear that i can't do this floor anymore i don't feel sure
i don't feel sure about doing this other thing but i feel very sure about not doing this floor
so that's pushing me into action this way and i'm exploring and i'm being open i'm exploring i like
what danielle's saying like just look at it explore yeah and i love that gabby and to wrap
us up here chapter three i think we're all ready for chapter three am i right i think i think chapter
three is going to be really powerful adding on to what we've just read so read chapter three
and be on this call this time next week okay we're going to continue this conversation
when we have resistance in our lives when when that that poke that anxiety that fear i mean my
god you guys have all kind of walked with me since the last since the last in-person event
two in-person events ago i mean i have been beside myself i have been sick i have been sad
i've been literally depressed i began seeing a counselor what is actually going on with me and
here's what's going on there is resistance because there is a grief because the version of me
can no longer hide i can no longer play small anymore i can no longer
not be seen and take full responsibility for my own gifts and what i've been given but i'm
telling you right now it's costly to grow it's costly to scale but what you know what else is
costly
staying right where you're at.
We're all paying a cost here, ladies.
We're all paying a cost.
You know how easy it is as a single woman
for me to be like, if only I had two incomes,
this would be easier.
You all know that's bullshit.
If only I had another set of hands
with a husband, blah, blah.
No, no, it's not true.
Maybe yes, but at the end of the day,
that's just my fear trying to grab onto something
that would make me feel more comfortable
instead of me taking full responsibility
for my calling, my dreams, my visions,
what I'm called to, my why.
It's nobody else's, it's mine.
And just like where you guys are,
it's nobody else's, it's yours.
And you don't have to be so scared of it.
But part of that looks like taking a look
and being like, okay, what can change?
What's a small, micro, little, mini,
itty bitty thing today I can do?
And then you do that the next day.
I'm gonna share this really quick.
This is insane what just happened to me.
I have to share this with y'all.
This goes, I knew this was gonna directly relate
with this call.
I know it's three minutes over, so you have to go.
I respect that.
I'm looking to rent out my entire home.
That's me up-leveling my life.
That's me saying, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna step out,
I'm gonna step up.
Where am I gonna live?
Not quite sure yet.
Well, I get back from San Diego and two days later,
guess what happens?
My basement floods with sewer water.
So I got poop in my house.
And that's not fun, that's nasty.
Guess what though?
This is the fifth time this has happened.
Ding, ding, ding.
Time to take a look at something else
because what I'm doing isn't working.
This is such a real mirror to business.
Get this.
So my plumber comes over,
cause I got him on speed dial.
And we had talked about this a couple of years ago.
He said, Danielle, you don't have to fix this.
Like I can just come and do this snake thing
and then you should be fine.
He's like, the time when you need to begin to start looking
at this is when you have to call me in three to four months.
Well, I had to this time mark three months
that he was just here.
So he came over yesterday and he was like,
well, I think it's time you have to do something different.
I mean, you can keep calling me every three months,
but if you are gonna rent this entire house out,
you have to figure this problem out.
I can no longer avoid what the hell is going on
with this poop water coming into my basement.
Okay, so get this.
I mean, it's nasty.
This is a problem like you have to solve immediately.
You know what I mean?
You all who own a home, like, oh, okay.
Like the baseboard broke.
Okay, I'll get to that.
You know, this is something like I need to get fixed,
especially if I'm gonna have like people living
in my home with me.
He's like, I think you need to call,
I think you need to call the camera guys
to come put the camera down.
I'm like, no, I can't call the camera guys
because then what if they find a hole in the pipe
and the pipe is underneath my basement
and then I have to take up my entire basement
and it's gonna cost me $20,000.
With that thinking,
of course I'm not gonna call the camera guys,
but guess what?
He looked at me.
He said, Danielle, you just make one phone call.
That's it.
Just do the next best thing.
So I had the courage.
I called.
The guy came out today,
put the camera down my pipes
right before I got on this call
and guess what they found?
Nothing.
No cracks, no tree roots,
nothing.
And it's a catch 22, right?
Because it's like, praise God,
there's no,
ah, poop.
Like, I'm literally like, praise God,
it's not a $20,000 fix,
but there's still an unresolved problem.
But now I get to go into like next level problem solving
and like I called up a friend
and my other friend's like,
hey, you can consider this,
you can consider that.
Why am I telling you guys this?
I was scared.
I could have saved myself almost two years
if I just called the camera people two years ago.
Two freaking years.
I could have just made this one little call,
but no, the call led to a $20,000 fix in my basement.
Who here can relate to this?
Oh, I can't make that impossible goal, it's too much.
Or, oh my God, I'm never gonna scale,
so I just won't do anything today.
That's why I think it's just really important
that we just make that next little step.
And I'm gonna look at your guys'...
I wasn't looking, I was focused on...
He is actually 60 years old
and married with a couple of kids.
Yes, my plumber should, and he'll sit here.
His name's Bob, of course.
Of course his name's Bob.
And he literally would just sit here and be like,
yeah, I mean, I told Danielle,
she needs to call the company, but she wasn't ready,
but this time she was.
And then here's the kicker.
Oh yeah, I already asked about his son, not available.
I already asked.
Because him and I have such a good relationship.
He loves that I use my home to share with people and stuff.
He looks at me, as he was leaving yesterday,
it's usually $250 just for him to come over
and snake out my pipes.
And I said, okay, here's my card.
And he's like, this one's on the house.
And he didn't even charge me the $250.
He's like, you're gonna need to call the camera people
and they're gonna charge you $250,
so you can just pay them and then be in touch with me
and we will problem solve this together.
I mean, could there have been a better outcome?
I mean, it depends on how I look at it, right?
Like I'd still like to know what's going on.
Like, I don't want the poop water to come into my house
again for the sixth time.
But at the same time, it's like, well, I made a step.
I may, and do you wanna know, I feel so empowered.
I was like, I could have just felt this better
like two years ago, are you serious?
I should have just called the freaking company.
So, right, right.
Okay, yeah, thanks Gabby.