Hello, hello, hello.
It looks nice there where you are, Carrie.
It is.
It's a spring teaser.
Love it.
It's going to get cold at the end of the week.
Yes.
What's up, ladies?
How is it going?
Going.
Yeah.
Day by day.
Hey, that is all that we have.
So thank God for today.
Awesome.
Hey, Amanda.
Glad you're able to join us.
So did you guys, were you able to.
I'm pulling up my phone. Were you able to read chapter six.
I'm almost done.
You're almost done.
All right. Sweet.
Oh, all right. Well, let's see.
I'm sorry. I'm distracted. I'm trying to set up the live stream.
I apologize.
I'm trying to set up what.
The live stream.
We are being.
I forgot that I was trying to have an intention of doing that.
So now I'm doing it.
Good job.
Thank you.
Danielle, do you want to start?
I'm sorry.
I yes, I would love to, but I, I am sensing.
I'm sensing some low energy right now, or maybe some discouragement.
Is that true?
I don't think low energy, but I would say discouragement.
I think the way he wraps chapter six up, like with all the questions.
And I mean.
He says it, he says it in every chapter,
but it's getting laser focused and turning off the noise.
And I know we struggle with that.
Like there's a million distractions all day long.
That.
You know,
and we do our best to try to do like the deep work and turn off the
noise, but.
Yeah, I feel discouraged. Like, yeah, how are we, I mean,
our to-do list is a million miles long with, you know,
our launch and, you know, multiple products at the same time.
And.
I feel like we're not even moving the needle.
Forward.
So, yeah, I feel discouraged.
So it sounds like.
God.
I was going to say, like,
I was like kind of triggered by his whole Elon Musk analogy.
Like that didn't work well for me and my family.
And like, we're moving to a whole new state this summer.
Like I have missed so many paychecks and.
It was, it was just.
Hard.
To listen to.
To.
You know,
Just so that we can do something there.
We haven't all collectively agreed that we want to do.
And then he ends the chapter.
Will you stagnate or will you scale?
And I was just like.
I prefer the word.
Like, will you maintain your.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
That is.
Yeah, that is quite okay.
And I appreciate both of you kind of sharing that and
did you, did you listen to the conclusion by any chance?
I just listened to chapter six and I didn't listen.
I wasn't sure where, since I missed last week,
I wasn't sure if we were supposed to listen to that too,
or if we're going one more week, I didn't know where we were.
Yeah.
I.
Here's where I.
I hear both of you. I hear your feelings. I hear your thoughts.
And I think.
This is where we zoom out.
world and here's what I was like I literally had the thought I was like I'm sure some of you are
going to be discouraged after reading this and so I was I'm I sensed it so I'm right there with you
by the way and I think what's really important about this whole book and about this whole kind
of season we've just kind of stepped into of like looking at scaling is that number one it's not for
everybody and it's not for every season and we have to remember he he couldn't even find somebody
to work with him because of how high his own floor is and that really wasn't actually very shocking
to me because of how how he's gone about you know what he's built but let's let's also take a step
back and say okay he wants to work directly with people who are ready to scale their business 10x
and and that's not I and and I think we can take that with a grain of salt and I don't and like
looking even at Steven how Steven scales it is it is different from I believe what this book just
kind of taught us and like kind of revealed you know Steven has had to make some hard decisions
over the years but it was more you know not because he has this crazy impossible goal but I do think
um yeah it was really yeah I mean I'm acknowledging both of your your feelings and
just zooming out for a second of like okay I don't I hear you and I think this isn't for
everybody and I think he's trying to he's trying to make scaling more realistic and I think we kind
of came into like his way of thinking and his vision um kind of in the beginning of it where
it's like being just released kind of into the world I mean he just wrote the book and just
built this company this new company what like a couple months ago or something so yeah I mean I
think the things I acknowledge because I met with Gabby last week and I said you know I can see why
it's pushing some buttons because the whole thing is it's a radical I mean he states it over it's a
radical audacious goal right and it requires radical thinking and what does that make us do
step outside of our comfort zone so it is going to push every single trigger every single button
but that is what you have to do if that is your goal if your goal is to grow and scale and
whatever 10x 5x whatever you do have to do that you can't stay where we're at right now
you have to step out of the comfort and I think the Elon Musk part that hit me was when he said
you know he gave them they said six months and he said you have six weeks and then they didn't
listen anyway and six days he turns his plane around and he goes and cuts the wires himself
and it's like that is radical right but it's insane it is insane but you know what it gets it
done those are the hard decisions it does otherwise what are you doing we're dragging our feet and that
for me is where I feel I am and we are not dragging our feet we are we are working but I don't know if
we're we're spinning the hamster wheel and I don't know if everything we're doing is moving the
business forward or if we're just making work and spinning our wheel and then getting distracted by
the noises and so I think that's where it really hit home with me I mean it definitely is radical
and making you step outside of your comfort zone but otherwise you procrastinate you procrastinate
it can you know when you make excuses you make excuses and you justify why it's okay to just
stay where you are and that's okay if you're okay with that I'm not okay with that that's where I'm
at in my journey that I'm not okay with that yeah I wonder if you could make like a flow chart or a
a wheel or a filter to say like you know is this moving the needle forward and if so how
and so like every time you put something on your to-do list or like you add something that you're
going to do you have a grading rubric to say like how is this actually helping is this a distraction
or is this actually going to get me where I want to go um and then like you know in your to-do
list or wherever you're maintaining what you're going to do for the week like you put on there
like your rubric like this is going to help blah blah blah so I think you know Steven gave an example
before where he would put dollar signs.
If something was like something
that was gonna generate revenue,
he had like a number of dollar signs
beside it, how much revenue he expected.
Otherwise it was just like a task, for example.
And I like coordinate my things in buckets of time
of what I'm gonna do
and like how much time I'll allow for certain things.
And then, you know, prioritize in that bucket
based on how valuable that thing is to me
based on my own like internal rubric.
I wonder if you could develop something like that
and then you can do that Eisenhower matrix
where you're just like,
oh, I might wanna delete that completely
or I might wanna keep it, but delegate it.
I like, I do have that written,
like I have that in my, on my thing every day.
Like, is this moving the needle?
Like that's like my, on the top of every paper.
Like, and then when we make our to-do list,
like that is what I evaluate,
but sometimes, you know,
things get in there that shouldn't.
Sure, absolutely.
And do you also block off rest
or like self-care exercise blocks,
where it's like you give yourself permission
to just like feel and take a break
and don't have to be productive?
That's funny, I don't.
And you know, I've been sick.
So I think that's like me.
Because that's equally important alongside building.
Yeah.
Because it also gives your brain a rest.
Exactly.
To then be like, oh, that is important.
And this is why, and this is why it's gonna help me.
But you know, if your brain is constantly jumbled
with like, what is that called?
Like it's some negative hormone
that you're not supposed to have,
the opposite of dopamine, whatever, cortisol maybe.
Cortisol.
Yeah, it's just like jumbled with the cortisol.
It's hard to like, it's hard for me to get perspective.
Like you would get if you went on
like a 30 minute walk outside
and then you came back and felt a different level.
Yeah, 30 minute walk, 30 minute nap.
Something, 30 minutes, something.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm, good.
I wanna say, so I also have not,
you know, initially when he quoted Elon Musk
earlier in the book, I was kinda like, eh,
you know, not my favorite.
What I've done though is, I'm just kinda,
as I'm listening, I've just removed in a way
what I know maybe about people that he's using as examples,
which is very few.
I really don't stay on top of things very much.
And I'm just trying to listen for the lesson in it.
And I'm kinda operating with an ounce of maybe delusion
of just like, I'm just gonna assume
he's just using these people as like literal,
just examples because of things that they've, you know,
done, you know, they have scaled, you know,
regardless of their morality and things like that.
So it's kinda helped me a little bit,
with just like listening to all the different people
and kinda keep it more objective
where I'm listening for, yeah,
that like, what was the radical thing that they did?
And Kerry, honestly, I feel like you were just like
spewing fire a minute ago
with how you were just like summarizing everything.
It is, you know, scaling anything, 10x-ing, 100x-ing,
whatever your x is of anything,
it is a, it's a radical move in and of itself.
Right?
It is. It is.
It's radical.
And so it, there's, I liked your point of like,
it's gonna call you into radical things.
And sometimes that's gonna really be irritating.
For me, it's like, I would say for me, it's like,
I don't think frustrating is the right word.
It's more of like, it just kinda makes me mad
because like, why can't I just have these things now?
Like, honestly, I just, you know, I'm like, I'm tired.
My heart's tired.
I, you know, there's a lot going on in our life.
It's just like, why does something have to be kinda,
in my way, what my head says is require more of me.
I think there is opportunity there
to change that thought and that belief.
But yeah, that's for me, the holdup is just kinda like,
sometimes it's a little deflating
because I'm just like, I don't have any more to give.
And I think that's true.
Like what Daniel was saying, there's a season and I think I've said all this to you guys
before on Office Hours or one of our calls, it's just, you know, I feel like my family's
in a season of not building as far as a business.
We're building other things.
I'm trying to build other things that feel very hard, you know, and I, in a way, that's
why this book has applied to me in like my personal life because I'm willing to take
radical steps in my personal life to have the kind of life that we want, things that
we value.
And one thing, I'm kind of going on a tangent here, but he was talking about with like team
members, he's talking about you need people who are like A-level players and all of that
and who are more committed to the results as opposed to the security, which was really
convicting because I was just like, okay, I was like, I, I want some process sometimes
just like the security to fall back on things.
But I was thinking about in terms of my marriage and I'm by far the reckless one for sure,
spontaneous, reckless one.
And this is definitely played out where like I feel like I can take radical steps and my
husband leans on the safety security side of things a lot more.
And it's just been, wow, like we've been having to navigate that, I guess is what I'm saying.
And I think each of us has the opportunity, whether it's in our relationships or in workplace
relationships or whatever, of just how do we, I think this is part of the noise carry
where it's because at the day-to-day level and these decisions things, it is messy.
Like it takes these little moments, these little conversations that are nitty and gritty
and it's like, it creates this noise that distracts from the bigger picture, but I don't
think it makes it any less critical to the process and important.
And it does sometimes forces the timeline to change too.
And that's also something that I think we hold with loose hands, like not loose hands,
but kind of open where it's like, we have this impossible and we set this intention.
It's a very real intention, but we also know life is not perfect.
Our journeys are not linear.
So things come up and we kind of do like this.
So that was my tangent for the day.
He talks, I think another kind of thought within scaling and within this chapter is
going from good to great.
And in order to do that, like going beyond yourself, right?
So it's like his idea is like hire this super who instead of 10 mediocre people.
I actually, again, it depends on what you want as a business owner.
And I just, let's take his thoughts as just new ways of thinking.
Because who knows down the road, Christy, when you get your business up and going, you
might, you know, you're a million dollar one and you start realizing, oh my gosh, I can't
manage 10 people.
If only I had one person who was an expert in this area that I could hire, boom, maybe
that's like, maybe that's the moment where this like lands for you in that, who knows?
We don't know where all of these nuggets are going to ultimately be needed in your
journey of entrepreneurship and even life.
Because I want to, I mean, he talks about creating something beyond ourselves and growth
and impact beyond us.
I think that's something we can all agree on, right?
You're all wanting to build something that's going to go beyond you, that's familial,
that's generational, that's, you know, whether you're working or not, it's something
that's continuing and not necessarily financially, but, you know, legacy and like
passing things on to your children.
And, okay, Elon Musk has a crazy, crazy idea that we're going to live in Mars.
Do I believe that?
No, no, but I don't take his same beliefs as a person in general, but he was, he's
willing to risk his reputation and his wealth.
So this is a dedicated person to a dedicated mission and my, you know, at the end, it is
a good question for each of us to ponder, like, is this a dedicated mission?
Is this something worth spending reputation and or wealth on?
And Elon is showing that, you know, he's just one example.
He's an extreme example, but I mean, he's literally changing the world and maybe some
of us will go on to change the world and maybe some of us won't.
But it had me thinking this.
Like are you you know, are you guys are you girls working on things? Are you feeling that passion?
Are you feeling that like, okay, I'm willing to like risk certain things. It's worth it. You know, I
Think that was like a good takeaway for me to be thinking about
Just as like a litmus for seeing somebody who's actually doing that
I look at Jesus to like he was willing to give up his reputation and his life
for his mission
He was solely focused
and he did it at whatever cost it was and
and
It takes a lot of courage and grit. He says that he says that this scaling is not for the faint of heart
He said that
You know, it also isn't for the faint of heart
building a business period
That's not for the faint of heart we talk about this it takes things it takes a lot and
And
You know radical shifts
And and so yeah one of the thing I wanted to share and then I'd love to hear from Michaela or
Lauren if you guys have anything you want to share
Kind of talking about the chapter here, but he you know, it was really interesting to me that he was
as
He was having a hard time. He's Ben Hardy
Talks with top business owners in the world. Okay, I think we all agree on that
He said that the fact that he couldn't even find people who wanted to work with him
That was like really insane to me. I don't know about you guys. I was like, whoa, you have really like
Doing what you are talking about and I have a lot of respect for that
you know, there's a lot of people out here who wanting fame wanting all these things and they're not actually maybe their lives like a
lighting with it and
It made me think about because he said if you're not if you're not ready for accountability
Like you're you know, you're not ready for a star players
You're not ready to scale and I think that that doesn't have to be a shameful thing. I think that can just be okay
That's fine. Not everyone's there. That's okay
You know, um this guy I was dating
Friday night completely ended things out of the blue
yep, just
Called me it's over. I don't I don't want to see you anymore
and
You know why?
This is why without this is my own words
I'm gonna say share it to you guys because this is gonna show up in other areas of our lives than just business this book
I brought like it's already happening in my life to
my floor
Was too high
He could not he actually admitted
my wealth and health goals are not in alignment with his and
In fact, he doesn't actually want
To strive and I'm like I are I already don't have respect for that. That's not gonna work
You know, and so he he was honest with me. He wasn't actually honest
It all came out in a phone call on Friday, but whatever but it made me realize. Oh, right
You don't want a certain accountability in your life. I
Don't even need to talk about how I'm healthy. We didn't talk about this stuff
He picked it up from our conversations and me showing up in the life. I'm living
Right, so if we we continue to live our life living conviction live in where we're called I think that is so
extremely important and valuable and
can also be scaled at the right time because if our if our floor in our seat far if our floor is not
even in alignment
Right, how can how can there be scaling?
So I think it was a good thing for me to wake up and be like, okay. Well, wait a minute
Maybe my business isn't looking ready to scale but my my love life. Oh, I've scaled. I'm a scaled woman
I'm a top-value woman and I know what I'm looking for
And that's why a lot of men don't act out of coming to my path don't actually want to be with me
Mainly because they don't want they're not in alignment, you know, and that's not a bad thing anymore
It just is what it is and I'm proud of like who I am and what I'm creating and where I'm going
So I thought that was interesting
How some of the I think some of these things are going to show up also in your personal lives, too
And this is just good knowledge to have like going forward as you're building businesses and being in in life. So
Yeah
Lauren or Michaela do y'all want to share anything from the from chapter six a takeaway or
I'm actually
Listening to the audio book so I didn't listen to chapter six yet
but I do want to kind of speak to what you're talking about Danielle because I think
That it's really aligned with kind of what I've been dealing with over the last couple of months probably
like all the changes that I've been going through personally and professionally and you know starting this business I've
changed a lot and like I and my expectations for life and what I
want out of life have changed.
And that has actually caused a lot of rifts
in my relationship with my husband.
And like, it's like brought all these things to light
that I didn't see before.
And try not to get emotional,
but it's been really challenging because it's, you know,
this is someone who I loved deeply and care for
and have been with for 15 years.
And I mean, we're fighting now about like,
just what you're talking about,
where we're not on the same page.
We're not aligned in what we want out of life anymore.
And it's challenging because it's like,
I want to drag him along with me
and get him to a place where he is driven
and we are striving for the same things.
And even if they're the different things,
that at least there's alignment in wanting more
and pushing for that and having goals.
And yeah, it's just been, it's been really tough.
And I think it's definitely slowed things down for me
as far as my focus on my business
and even some of like stolen some of that passion
that I have for it.
Because it is, like I said,
it's like creating this like negativity
in other parts of my life.
And then with all of this focus on my personal growth
and kind of these deeper understandings of who I am
and what I want, I feel like I've had to kind of go,
okay, I need to solely focus on this right now
because I just don't have the bandwidth
to do everything all at once.
And it's kind of like having that realization
that like I can do everything that I wanna do in life.
I just can't do it all at once.
And I may not be able to do it with the same people
that I thought I would.
You know what I mean?
And that's a tough pill to swallow.
So it's been really, really hard.
I hear you.
Yeah.
I'm sure everyone on here can relate in one way or another.
Yeah.
I'd love to encourage you Lauren too.
I know we've talked a lot about this recently
and I think one, just from an encouragement standpoint
of like watching your transformation has been pretty cool.
Just in like, I don't know, having many calls with you,
you know, it's just been, it's just really cool.
And I don't, you know, I don't want you to stop.
On the other side, on another note is,
I think different people probably have different beliefs
and values on this, but my perspective is that,
sorry, my daughter just very aggressively closed the door
because apparently I'm too loud.
Bring break guys.
Is that like, in my view,
my marriage is always going to be top priority
before everything else.
And for me, I am a woman of faith.
So my faith is top in my marriage.
My business is never going to go above that.
And I a hundred percent know Steven
and pretty much everyone on our team
would say the same thing.
And what's funny is that,
I think sometimes we are asked to lay down certain things
for something else that we're not expecting to be,
I don't know, up level, jazzed up,
like bless, whatever you want to say,
whatever word you want to input.
And so I know for me,
this was personally true with like business was like,
I needed to kind of lay down,
set aside my business for a little bit
for many other things to have an opportunity
to transform and hit a different level.
My marriage being one of them.
We've been in marriage counseling since August.
And I would say the last couple of years
has been our hardest,
like very well-fought years of marriage.
And I know as hard as it is in the day-to-day
in the conversations and decisions,
I know that it is getting to something
that's even better than what we had.
And I'm not saying that as like a blind promise for you,
but just as an encouragement of like,
in our community, it's okay to say,
basically what you're saying,
like I don't have the bandwidth for everything.
So my business is kind of needing to be maintained
or kind of just, it's on the side here
while I'm maybe focusing on how to navigate
these other things that in my opinion
have way more importance, way more.
I don't know.
I don't know if that's helpful or encouraging at all.
Yeah, no, I agree with you that like,
certainly like my own,
how I, my own personal mental and physical health,
my relationship with my daughter,
my relationship with my husband,
those things are always gonna be at the top.
And obviously business is gonna come secondary,
maybe even third after the nine to five
that actually pays the bills.
And that's unfortunate because it's like not the way.
that, not necessarily unfortunate, I obviously think that my family and myself should all
come first, but it's unfortunate that the nine to five sometimes has to take priority
over something that I actually want to put energy into.
But I think I've just come to this realization that if nothing changes in his attitude, I
know that I will be resentful of that, and I will never be happy in that environment.
And so in that sense, I have to kind of go, okay, do I sacrifice what I want out of life
and my dreams and my goals and my aspirations to keep the peace?
Or do I decide that unless he's willing to meet me where I'm at, that it's just not going
to work?
You know what I mean?
I don't know.
He's trying, and I think the best part about this whole thing, as nasty as it feels to
be in this situation, he is trying.
And I'm also being completely open and honest with my feelings probably for the very first
time, because I don't even think I realize some of these things.
And so I don't feel like I'm leaving anything out.
I feel like I'm 100% transparent with how I feel, and he can take that information and
do what he wants with it.
I can't force him to want change in his life, right?
But I know that if he doesn't, then it won't last, you know?
Exactly.
Well, I don't know if you should declare it won't last, like as an ultimatum, you know,
you need to do what you want to do.
I've been with my husband for 20 years.
We've definitely been at this same point that you're at right now.
And I can tell you that sometimes the way that I think about it, and I define it, and
I define success and driven and being motivated, he doesn't define it in those same terms.
And I had to accept what he was defining it as isn't wrong.
It's just not the way that I do it.
And that's probably not your situation at all.
But I'm just saying that whenever you're like compromising and creating conversation around
things, you know, there's one thing that you want perfect alignment, but there's a lot
of shades of gray between perfect alignment and cutoff that you can accept in one part
of the whole, even if it feels at the time, like it's the whole.
And I just, you know, it can be very encompassing, like having another baby to birth your business.
And you feel like that same emotions that you felt when you had a newborn, I was like
super protective of it, and you want everybody to love it.
And nobody can call it ugly.
And nobody can say anything negative about your baby.
But at some point, he's a different human, and he has a different perspective.
And it doesn't have to be black and white.
There can be.
I agree that it doesn't have to be black and white.
I guess the word that like, I keep hearing when you're speaking is accept.
And I'm like, ah, see, like to me, acceptance sometimes means settling.
It means accepting something that maybe isn't like you said, like, it's this kind of like
that when I said resentment, it's like, if I have to accept that this is how it is, and
this is our ceiling in life, like, I know that I can't accept that.
And so that's, I think, where I'm really struggling internally is like, I just don't like, I would,
I would if someone else were telling me that, like, they're in a marriage, and they don't
have a voice in their marriage, or their husband, and it tells them to do all these things or
have them, you know, is, you know, stifling their ability to work outside the home or
whatever those things would be, I would be like, you're absolutely crazy, get out of
there.
And like, it's not the same thing, because I'm not, you know, being told to be a housewife
and stay home or anything like that.
But I am kind of being told that isn't this enough isn't where you're at enough?
Why can't you just have a secure job and bring in the money that you know, supports our family?
Why do we need more than what we have?
I just feel like I don't want to be I don't want to accept what I have and be like, this
is fine.
Because I just don't.
That's not what I want more out of life.
I want more out of my relationship with him.
I want, you know what I mean?
So like, I feel like if I if I accept that his, I mean, we do have a very different view
on things sometimes.
And like, I just feel like if I accept it, and I'm like, somehow, settling.
I think yesterday, Danielle said, you can have high standards.
but manager expectations, something like that.
Where it's like, you can have high standards,
build your business, quit your full-time job,
do all the things that you want to do,
but it doesn't have to be today in this minute.
It can be, you know, over time
where he has time to like come with you.
And I don't think, I mean,
from my own personal experience,
yes, my husband's absolutely pushing back
and it's a little bit different than what you're saying,
but it's a lot the same of what you're saying.
And I definitely, with him,
it's just kind of like, it's like a non-negotiable.
I'm gonna do it.
This is gonna happen.
And I hear what you're saying are the boundaries
that you want to place on it.
And these are my boundaries that I'm placing
on what you're doing.
And I think that's, you know,
kind of how communication works in relationships.
Lauren, Sean said this is girl time,
so he refuses to hop on,
but he's listening in the background
and he wants to know, why does it bother your husband?
He's like, why does it bother him so much?
He wants to know.
I don't think it's that like it works.
He said, ask him why it bothers him.
Why it bothers him, yeah.
Well, I think it's because,
one, he sees like the stress that it puts on me.
He sees the extra work that it puts on me.
He sees the investment that I've made in this
and the fact that like,
obviously he's struggling to recoup that
and make this successful.
And so I think part of it is like him feeling like,
you don't have to do this to yourself.
Like, we don't need this.
Like, just drop it.
Like, I don't want to see you upset.
I don't want to see you stressed.
I don't want to see you work all these hours
for something that's not benefiting you in a positive way.
And, you know, I think that's certainly part of it.
And then the other part of it is like, I just think,
I have a very different approach to things
and he's just very content,
you know, going through the day and doing the same things.
And like, that's not enough for me.
Yeah.
And so that's where we like,
I think part of him is trying to like protect me
in this situation.
And then the other part of it is like,
we're just not at all,
we don't see it the same way.
He doesn't see like why I do this.
Like, he just doesn't get it.
And so he's like, I don't understand
why you'd want to put yourself through this
and dump all this money into this
and all this time into this.
He's like, if you really want,
like if you're really chasing like more family time
and more connection,
then that's what we should be focusing on.
He's like, you're like kind of this idea
of like living for tomorrow instead of living for today.
And that is certainly something that I struggle with
and that I'm trying to work on,
which is kind of part of the ethos of my brand, right?
It's like this idea of like really living for today
and living for the moment.
And yeah, so it's not like he's opposed to me doing it.
He just doesn't,
I think he's just struggling with the situation
that we're in and being in this valley right now.
He doesn't see, you know,
the potential that I see.
It sounds like, you know,
he feels like his safety and security
is threatened in some capacity.
And what Chrissy was saying before of like,
there's shades of alignment.
You both have to do it.
Not just you do it for him.
He would also have to do it for you at some point.
And the reality I think of long-term relationships
is that those don't always happen at the same,
they usually don't happen at the same time.
And so there is this point of,
that I think that's where the commitment comes in
of like, hey, well, I'm gonna wait.
I know we're getting into like,
this is definitely like off business topic.
And I don't want you to hear
that we're all just giving you like marriage instructions.
And I think just hopefully you hear like everyone's heart
for just like what's worked for them
and their perspectives and stuff like that.
But I think that where you're at,
a lot of us can relate to.
And for me, it's also like,
there's this like, I don't know how this is gonna work.
I don't know how this could keep going like this.
And that sense of hopelessness is really hard.
So I don't know, I guess I say that to just,
you're not alone in that.
You're not the only one that's experienced that.
But that there can be hope for the other side of it.
And I hope that's what you take away for from all of us today, but there is hope to get to the other side
and
I feel like I'm sometimes not quite on the other side
I'm like some days. I'm like yeah, there's hope wow this is great and other days
I'm just like it's all burning and I give up and now it's fire really
Literally me last week, so you know and then we had marriage counseling the next day. I was like thank God
So, you know, I don't know I want to hear I
do want us to like encourage you but also I'm wary of us turning this into too much of a
marriage counseling session essentially
No, absolutely
I'm like, you know, obviously I brought up the topic and I do appreciate everyone's feedback because I think that whether it's a
marriage relationship or a different type of relationship like what we're doing obviously is affecting
You know our personal self
but then also
how we interact with with our world and how we interact with our in relationships and our different friendships and
Even you know at the office and things like that like it changes things like you this
It is transformative in that way. And so navigating things with this new lens
I think is kind of what I was why I brought this up and knowing that we're all
Navigating life with a different outlook. And so it's helpful to have that perspective from other people and
I
Think it was also partially why I was like so triggered by the Elon Musk
Analogy is because like it if he asked at the end of the chapter
what will you let go of that's keeping you where you're at and it's like I
Don't think I'm willing to go where Elon Musk went like if that's the archetype like no, thank you
It's like where is my floor my floor is at a different place than that and I can't
Like just the next question after that was what is your own unique pathway to your impossible goal?
and it feels like
just
Navigating like defining what I'm willing and not willing to let go of and making my own unique pathway is
is
maybe a better takeaway from the chapter then
You know if I'm want to stagnate or scale
and so as
It's hard for me to let people in and like, you know
I really struggle to like add team members so that I could scale and like duplicate efforts and like
You know been burned on adding team members and also been accelerated by adding team members
and so I would say that
Just like hopping on a plane and cutting the wire and like laying off dozens of people simultaneously
It's like never gonna be where I'm gonna be at in my life, you know
That's a good point
I think for me there's a couple of ways in which things are unique and
Like for instance like when it comes to like amassing let's say financial wealth, I'm
unwilling to
Do that in certain ways like I'm unwilling to
I'm unwilling to subscribe to our American work culture for one
I'm unwilling like I'm unwilling to work
Basically 40 hours on a regular basis or more. Honestly, I just don't I don't get our culture
Honestly our hustle culture. I don't
Exhaust me. It makes I'm my my life is not meant to be spent working
Not or at least not working my job, I have other work
That I've been given stewardship over that is just as important
That is just as important so that's one thing like just to kind of go off what Christie is saying like
There's things that I'm not willing to do to amass wealth
I'm not willing to
sacrifice
Community to
Have more wealth so like more time working, you know, just all of that like I'm there's just things I'm not willing to give up and
You know
Because you know my that's just my values. So I think we all have that
of
like here's
the non-negotiable thing that I keep
and
That's what creates your own unique way in your own unique timeline
So, I'm sure we all have that if anybody else has anything that's kind of sticking out to them
Hmm
So I'll share what happened so just a part of growth
so I have a hater and she's sending her army out to attack me and anyone who
like champions for me on social media and
I'm on I'm in my own bubble. Like I ain't got time for that
So I have I'm clueless and another business approached me and they're like hey
What do you know about so-and-so and I'm like nothing
You know and I said, I think we roughly started our dog bakeries at the same time
So it's another local dog bakery who I'm apparently gaining popularity and traction and she's noticed and now she feels threatened
so
Another business like gave me a shout out and highly recommended me and she had all her little
Warriors come and post on their post and like
Negative stuff and things like that and they came to me and told me they're like clearly
These people don't know you because if they know you you're the last person that's anything like the things that they're saying
They're they're like you're the kindest you're always lifting everybody else up. You're always promoting everyone else
You're always about building community and like collaboration not tearing people down
So, I mean it doesn't matter I
Don't want to say it doesn't matter but it doesn't matter what you do when you're growing whether it's personal or business
Haters gonna hate and as you grow it does it gets lonely. It gets lonely, you know
So, I mean I do value this community
For that because it it is hard and it's rare in this life to find like-minded people
Doing the same thing following their heart following a passion following a calling
Well, I'm gonna switch to the backroom tanks. So not just food
I'm following all of those things. So I mean that was that was my week
My week is haters
and I guess two of these bit two businesses had to block her and her people because it was getting so
Negative and they were like, this is my post. I didn't ask for your opinion like
And I mean, I'm over here. I had no clue any of this was going on
But it's just it and it just it does it blows my mind. I'm like
When you're growing who has time to worry about that who has time to worry about any of that and it happens
so
That's my share on growth for the week
I guess I'm doing even though I feel like I'm not growing and I'm stagnant
apparently, I'm catching attention of other businesses and I'm
clueless
You're far from stagnant
Mckayla you've been very quiet today
Mm-hmm. Oh my internet is not going very well. So everybody's kind of splotchy for me, but
I've I've been very sick. So I did not in fact get better. I I got way worse. So
I'm surviving over here
If I had to guess I don't I'm not a doctor person. I don't go to the doctor
But if I had to guess I probably have cove it
so
be glad you're all on the other side of the screen here, but
yeah, so I'm I'm here listening, but
I'm struggling. Thank you
You
Anybody else have anything that stood out to them from this week's chapter or previous chapters anything that you really are gonna like take with you
If there's one one or two things you're really taking with you
Something I've been thinking about as I listen through the audio book and then on this call today like even carry, you know
using the term stagnant and like
You know, I think I kind of feel like I've kind of put a pause on on things and things are definitely stagnant in
My business but like everything what we're listening about is like scaling and growth and you know
Even Danielle had mentioned like maybe it's not the time for these nuggets for you
like that'll maybe come later in your business, but I guess
this feeling of like I
couldn't even possibly be ready to think about scaling because I
Like scale what?
There's nothing to scale yet, right it's still just more of an idea than anything else
and so maybe like I think it'd be helpful to kind of
reframe how I think about that or like what I could be doing to get out of those feelings of stagnation and kind of
pause and like
where's the that little spark to kind of
Relight that or like
I don't know. I just that's kind of where my head's at is like.
Thanks. Thanks for sharing. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.
Well, we are going to be picking another book.
And I think we're going to start April. The first Tuesday of April, which will be April 7th. So the
next three Tuesdays will be normal office hours. Honestly, I need a little bit of a break. It's
hard for me to keep up. Because I basically try to squeeze in listening to the book in between
my calls with all of you all and on the way to car pickups because it's work. So I don't do that.
I don't listen when I'm done with work. So I need a little bit of a break. But I would love for us to
talk about maybe these last few minutes talk about any book ideas anyone has had or would love to
read or has already read and would love for our group to read. If we have multiple suggestions
come up, we can do like a vote on the app or something. But any ideas are welcome. I know we
talked about a few. Yeah, I have a list. I actually made a list of the ones that we mentioned like a
couple weeks ago. I'll just say them out loud real quick. And if any of them feel good, maybe just
write it in the chat. And then we'll do we can do a poll. And then if there's another book you guys
think of right now, like in the next four minutes, like also pop that in the chat.
We're going to take the next three weeks off and we're going to pick our
we'll still do office hours like Gabby said, but we'll start a new book. April 7. That will be the
plan. Okay, I've got The Body Keeps the Score, Grace Over Grind, probably the opposite of what
we described. Do we need some of that? Expert Secrets, Living Fearless, Deep End by Taylor
Welch, 12 Months to a Million, Who Moved My Cheese? Yeah, that's what I have written down
as a couple of options that one time we talked. What's The Bug Who Moved My Cheese? I haven't
heard that one. Okay, so I love this book. It is like easy read. Like I'm telling you crazy easy
read. But it is about it talks about being stagnant. It's about mice that get put in like a
thing and they move the cheese. And what happens to the mice that don't move? And then the ones
who eventually are like, Oh, if I stay here, this is what's going to happen to me. And like,
but it's a crazy easy read. But it's so good just talking about stagnation and but it's very it was
a very good. It's a very good book. I found some article that's supposed to be it says it's the
best business books for women of 2026. Yes, hang on. It says 100 million $100 million offers by
Alex Hormozy. Number two is $100 million leads by Alex Hormozy. For women.
Well, it says it was written by his wife. Oh, that makes sense. Okay, yeah.
Number three is how to be better at almost everything by Pat Flynn. Number four is Atomic
Habits. Number five is She Means Business by Kerry Green. Daring Greatly by Brenny Brown.
What they don't teach you at Harvard Business School.
Why has nobody told me this before by Dr. Julie Smith. And then the Let Them Theory.
Oh, and Unshakeable by Tony Robbins. The Miracle Morning by Hal Elrod.
All right, let me see how. Let me see if I can transfer this from my phone.
Brené is amazing. I haven't read one of her books in a while.
She changed the game for shame. And I loved it.
I don't know, this is so hard, there's so many, I don't even know how I'm gonna vote.
Should we...
I think that you and Gabby should, like, come up with, like, a top three, and then let the
rest of us vote, yeah.
Are you guys leaning more towards something a little more grace, relaxed, a little more
pushy, a little more in the middle?
I think go for three choices, grace, middle, push.
Okay, all right, Gabby, you and I can, we've got a couple, we'll figure this out in the
next week or two, and then pop it in the, we'll pop it in the app, and then you all
can vote.
No, we'll do this in the next week, so then it can be voted on, and then everybody could
have the first chapter read by April 7th.
Does that sound like a good plan for everybody?
Yeah.
Gabby, does that sound doable?
Okay.
All right, we'll do that.
All right, guys, great job, everyone, doing book club, so proud of you.
Yay!
Go, team, go!
Love you, Mikayla, feel better.
Yep.
Bye, guys.
All right, see y'all.