screen real quick. Yep. Thank you. So basically I am working on, so one of the funnel is already
live. There's a second one that I'm working on where the form is in Rainflow. It's sorry,
actually this one is hiding behind the Zoom link. I have to scroll it down. This is a different one.
Yeah, I can see it now. So this one is Megan. I was trying to create the same,
duplicate the same funnel, but then I'm directly connecting my website to it rather than the form
within on Facebook. So the form is in Rainflow, but then I'm getting this error where it's asking me
to attach the, what was it called? Tracking or pixels, something about pixels. I was getting
an error that pixels need to be connected or something like that. And I was not able to
deploy or get my funnel live. So I was trying to figure out what does that mean and how can I,
so this one is the active, which is already in like live. This has the form in Facebook
and then I duplicated the same one. And then that one, I now, now the form is not in Facebook,
but it's my two step funnel. So form is in Rainflow. So can I just open it? Edit it. Let
me just open it and show you. So is it like the same campaign type or is it a different campaign?
It is the same campaign type, but instead of the, instead of the form, like for example here,
it just asked me, where was it? I can find it. Like it asks you, you want to add a form or a
website instead of the form I selected website option. So I'm not, I'm not manually creating
the form within here. So for example, destination, right? So for destination, I chose website.
So this is my, like the complete funnel. And, and then I added this. So I just want this to,
I wanted to make it live. And also my other question was, if I want to change my creatives on
this one, which I have duplicated, how do I change it? Because I have another picture,
other creative, I want to test it out. So I was thinking maybe on my second,
like this ad, I can use a different creative just to test it out simultaneously, like two creatives.
Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You can definitely do that. Okay. So the problem you're having is you need
to set up a pixel before this. Yes, yes. It's asking me to set up some pics. It was somewhere.
I'm still learning this one. I mean, it was, I saw it somewhere, but I do not remember on top
of my mind. It's right here. Data set. It's asking me to set a data set and create it. And this one
is mandatory because it doesn't let me publish it or, you know, until this is set up. So I was
not sure how to set this up. Yeah, basically what a pixel does, it looks like they're calling it
data set now. Yes. It's kind of like a tracker that you put on. I don't exactly know how it
works, but it follows the person so that when they leave Facebook and go to your funnel,
Facebook can track what actions they take, which will then allow Facebook to give you accurate data.
This many people ended up on the landing page. This many people like fill out the form. This
many people made it to the second step. So you like set that up so that Facebook can provide
that data. Without that, Facebook doesn't know what the person does. This is a pretty advanced
advertising question, honestly, which is a better like Wednesday call like tomorrow. OK, yeah, I can
do ads. I this is a common thing that's needed. And so Steven made a video for this once. I put
it in the rainbow course. It's under the advanced section, but I'll drop the direct link to it here
in the chat. It's like a 17 minute walkthrough of like how to install a pixel for your rainflow
funnel. I would try that first. I want to say he recorded this last year. It could be that things
look different and have changed. So kind of try to go through that on your own today. And then
I'd say come back tomorrow and see if you has any insight if you're not able to do it on your own.
I did do this successfully once, but it was a while ago and I'm not super confident about walking
someone through it. So I would follow this video first.
see if you can get it set up.
That's good.
And for the graphics, should I talk to Ecolite tomorrow then
how to even look at the graphics?
I can talk to him, that's fine.
Yeah, and basically all you're gonna do here is like,
you can have two different or multiple different creatives
within the same ad set.
So you see how it's like three different,
it's like campaign, ad set, and then ad, like a creative.
You can have like 10 different creatives
underneath that ad set.
So they can all be running under the same ad set
and then you can compare and see
which one performs better.
But as far as like what you actually want in the creative,
yeah, Ecolite is great with like marketing angles and stuff.
So I would maybe brainstorm with him of like
what types of creatives to try.
But if you just like, one time I had like six different,
I just had AI make me a bunch of different photos
and I put them all in a different like ad creative
and I let them run for like a week or two
and I picked a winner, like which one performed the best.
So you could just do that too.
Data will tell you which one's performing the best.
I'll just dial back in then tomorrow
and pick it up from there.
And you said it's the advanced section,
you said from our phase.
Is it the-
Yes, it's in the Rainflow course under advanced content,
but I did drop the link in the chat
if you wanna just use that.
I'll just grab that.
All right.
Thanks, Megan.
Yeah, no problem.
Okie dokie.
Let's see, who's next here?
Carrie.
So I'm asking for Sean and he's not here.
So I can't share screen,
but maybe you can just like give us tips or tricks.
We are trying to do our email campaign.
We have it all set up.
And for some reason in Shopify,
it is not letting us tag our segment.
So it won't let us launch the campaign.
And we can't figure out why.
Like we've been trying to launch for two days now.
We have everything written out,
everything sent, all the emails in,
each one is personalized per person.
And for whatever reason,
Shopify won't let us tag the segment.
So it won't let us launch.
Okay.
You're using Shopify to send the emails?
We're using Shopify.
So I think Sean got Sequoia.
That was what like the chat has been suggesting.
They did not suggest us doing Rainflow.
So we are doing everything in Shopify.
Okay.
And where are your contacts?
Where's your email list?
Everything is in Shopify.
It was in Rainflow,
but we integrated everything into Shopify.
Okay.
I don't, I have no experience with anything on Shopify
as far as email campaigns go.
I would honestly just have to look at it and poke around.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't know.
I wonder why.
I mean,
I'm trying to think.
If you've already got everything set up in Shopify,
probably just keep going with it.
But you can integrate Shopify with Rainflow.
That's like how I would use it
because I'd use Shopify as like the checkout place,
but I would do all my email marketing in CRM and Rainflow.
With Shopify,
you're going to have to start getting add-ons and stuff.
Right?
Like you have to add different apps and stuff
because Shopify is meant to be a store
and then they have all these apps that you add
and things.
But if you've already got it all set up,
I'd probably try to keep going with it.
I just don't have any experience with it.
So if he wants to come back sometime on a call
and we can like look at it,
but I don't know off the top of my head,
like where exactly to look.
It's probably just, you know, it's a different platform.
So there's probably something hidden somewhere.
You just gotta like find that setting.
So maybe have him come back where he can like share screen
and we can look through it.
And it could be, you know,
tomorrow you guys could help him too.
Okay.
It doesn't have to be next week.
So, or Thursday with Steven, whatever works.
Okay. Thank you.
Yeah, no problem.
Okay, Melissa, I see your hand up.
Hello.
Okay.
So I last week talked to you, Clyde.
And so he's been like trying to move me along,
trying to figure this out.
So I have a new ad running on Facebook.
I use the ultimate ad optimizer,
whatever it was in the eight figure I got helped a lot.
And so I've got, I'm basically,
I've got this website and the business idea
is to create simple websites for service businesses.
You know, the one man show kind of a thing, you know,
where so.
that's the niche, that's the target. From everything I can tell, like having run through
the ultimate ad chat, going back and forth, showing that everything is set up, everything's
working. I mean, I'm just going to, let's just, just try, like, that's what it's saying. I'm
getting landing page views, but just nobody yet, like no leads, no somebody, like filling it out.
This time the ad is for a free sample website, you know, and it's like, click here, fill this out,
get a free sample website. And I think, like, honestly, I think the big part of it is that
there's a ton of people doing this. Like, there's a lot of people out there doing what I'm doing,
like, hey, get out. So I guess my question now is, I'm coming up with, thinking about, like,
all the things I've learned now, being a mastermind, the Instagram, right now, I'm just
running the ad on Facebook. And so it's just, I started just running this one ad, and I'm just
trying to think about, like, when it comes to the brand building, and it comes to the Instagram
community, that do you think, like, it would make sense to try, you know, like, because I thought,
should I try to start an Instagram and start, or just stay on Facebook and, but, like, offer
things like, I guess I'm saying what else to offer, like something offer for free, or like,
I just learned how to make loom videos, I can make a loom video on, like, how to set up your
domain, like, that's something people don't ever know how to do. And like, if they're going to need
a website, they're going to have to buy a domain. So I'm like, I could, like, create some quick
little videos and be like here. And, you know, because then I'm thinking, well, Instagram,
I could start an Instagram and like, start offering, like, hey, click this and get a free
video on how to set up, you know, like, I'm just trying to think about,
what other smaller free things can I offer to start getting people to, like,
respond or engage in any way so that, because I still think even signing up for a free sample
website is still too much. Like, I don't even know if I need a website. And my husband is,
he is a service business, like, it's this niche thing. And he has so much business, he doesn't,
he doesn't have a website, and he doesn't need it. He's got more business than he needs. And I
think sometimes that's the case, that people don't think they need a website. So I'm having to,
like, I want to figure out how to push past that. Okay. I mean, two things come to mind.
The first thing, and I, I mean, this might be more the issue, honestly,
especially if you're not having anyone, like, sign up for it, like, even the freebie.
That kind of tells me that people don't think this is for them. Like, when you feel when you,
like, come across an ad, that is, like, the algorithm has targeted you so well, that it's
like, oh, my gosh, this is neat. Like, it totally has been stalking me and what I'm watching on
Netflix and looking at my Google searches and put this out in front of my face and knew I wouldn't
be able to resist. When you come across that, it is just a matter of time before they take action.
Like, I'm thinking of a recent thing that I, like, signed up for. And it took me, I mean,
I probably saw, like, an ad for it, like, four or five, six times before I signed up. And then I
started getting their email, like, it took a long time. But like, it was so targeted to me,
I could not help but feel like, wow, this is just like, it's on the money, right? When you feel like
that, it's just a matter of time before they take action. And so usually, it's an issue of, like,
you're either not, like, speaking the language of the target audience, so they don't feel identified
with it. Or maybe it's not even clear who the target audience is, like, you haven't niched
down enough. So like, you know, just saying, I can create a website for any business owner is a
pretty big net to cast. And even Facebook doesn't know who to show it to. That could literally be
any person on planet Earth, you know? Yeah. I mean, like, right now, like, the ad is targeted,
like, to service business. So it's like, I like the list of, like, HVAC, snowplow, landscape,
okay, you know, cleaning, like, it is kind of narrowed down to like that. And like, the few,
like, there's like one comment I got that didn't really make a lot of sense. And like,
but they're like, people are liking and there's like, little by little bits of like, people say,
and I look at their profiles, and I can't really see much about them, you know, but it's targeted
somewhat. It's not just going like, anybody who owns a business, like, it has been kind of
targeted towards that more smaller business one man show type of thing. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's
still a pretty wide.
I've been honestly, I mean, that's, it's a lot. That's a lot
of people. And it's hard for someone to come across that and
be like, Oh, that's me. Like, it's just too wide of a net.
Like, okay, so I actually was working with a guy a few months
back, and he's doing a lot of what you're doing. I mean, very
similar, except he's also doing like, in addition to the
building of the site, he helps them with SEO and helps them
rank on Google searches so that they can get leads for their
business, which is a good little thing to add. But he only worked
with people who were like, our guests. Do you know what I mean?
Like, people? Yeah, those are the only people he worked with.
I mean, it was so specific. It was Yeah, it was almost like
hyper specific. And I was like, Why did you choose this? And
he's like, Well, I did a couple and then it was like, I kind of
knew what he was doing what to do. So I like provide really
excellent service to the people in this industry. And he gets
and he he's like, I get enough business from everyone in the
country. Right? There are arborists. He's like, I don't
need to branch out. So like, when you when and when a person
comes across that ad, and is like, I'm an arborist, and I
need that like, it's right. It's, it hits harder. Oh, like,
it feels really specific. Yeah. So me if you don't want to niche
down to a specific industry, which I think is pretty
specific, you can be shown in another way. Like you could
single out specifically, like, like you're saying service based
businesses, but you could add some filters to that. Like you
could say,
what am I looking for? Like, single LLC people? Like, what
am I trying to say? Like single owner run businesses, right? Oh,
employees, like, it's just a one man show, like you're
saying, like, like, literally use that word. If you use that
word in the ad, Facebook will find people who are single
owner LLCs. I'm not going to say that in the ad, you could also
maybe I would say it might be a good idea for you to niche down
by age, like people over the age of 40. So, like, single people
over the age of 40, who run a business by themselves, a
service business, like that's more niche to the point where
like, someone's gonna feel called out when they see that
ad and Facebook is gonna have a much better idea of who to send
that to and show it to you. Yeah, that's like, that's the
first thing I would do. That would be step one, because I
think you'll see, like, not necessarily more interest, but
more better quality, right? People are more likely to take
action. Yes. The second thing I would do is think about thinking
about anything that would get in the way of someone saying yes
to that, and provide us an answer for that in the lead
magnet. So like, for example, you just said, they might not
even know they need one, say that, like, say their thoughts
out loud and be like, right, you might be thinking, I don't know
if I need one, I can tell you if you need, like, literally call
that out and tell them that you're going to give them the
answer to every question they have. You don't know how to get
a domain that's been holding you up. I'll get it for you. Yeah,
I'm not gonna send you a video, I'm gonna do it for you. Yeah,
you don't even have to worry about it. You know, like, just
take away all the friction. So think through or talk through a
chat. Like what are all of the like, all the opposition? Yes.
What what are those barriers and then answer that in your full
custom package, like provide every solution to that? Yeah.
And I think you're hitting the right person, they feel called
out, you're answering every objection they have. I mean, how
can they not say no? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Again, it's just a
matter of time before they take action. Right? Right. Well, and
I do want to like I mean, I just I mean, like this new ad, it
hasn't been running for a week, you know, so I'm like, need to
be patient. So I'm like, do you think like, is that my thought
is to just because the one that I'm running, it's got a picture
it's I'm focusing on landscape. I mean, that's kind of like I'm
it's my website says like any service business, but it's I am
focusing on landscapers because it was snowplow. But now we're
out of that season, because I'm like, kind of like it's West
Michigan. Okay, a lot of but now it's landscape season. So I was
like, well, folks, so the picture is landscapers. So it is
kind of focused on that. But my thought is like, Oh, go ahead.
All right. I just thought when you said that, do you have a lot
of non English speaking landscapers where you live? Yes.
That's an extremely common, extremely common profession for
Hispanic immigrants is landscaping. I would run the ad
in Spanish, too. Okay, that was good. That was something else.
Oh, yeah, because I see a lot of comments coming. And there are
Spanish speakers. And I'm like, yes. And maybe that's what the
number one thing holding them back is going to be
yeah the language they don't know how to build the website in english or you know they're trying to
hire a friend who kind of speaks in it i have a lot of experience with this i literally was an esl
teacher i work mostly with the hispanic population i know all the objectives they have yeah and
they're not going to be super familiar with technology usually first-gen immigrants are
so you are going to be like i'm going to be your liaison to the english-speaking community
it's gonna be easy it's gonna be great you just show up and do what you want to do so that would
be a really good target audience for you honestly you can make a whole niche just out of pads yeah
it's only i don't wish i knew how to speak spanish that would help but there's chat gpt
honestly you don't need to you don't need to because the service you are providing them
is they need english for the only reason you would need spanish is to like ask them questions
right but if you're like you know through messages you can get the job done yeah for sure
but so mike do you think like for like let's say next their next step like i'm definitely that
gives me a lot to research my my first thought is let the current one run but maybe make like
copy it make a spanish version of it yes and run that i would run it in english and spanish
same exact yeah okay so maybe that'll be my first step will be copy the same one in spanish
and run it at the same time and then start yeah and think about what to answer yeah the reason
why i run it in spanish to see how it performed is because uh you know they'll still they may still
come across the english ad um because facebook can translate it for them or they can see you
know they can see the translated version but if you put it in spanish it tells facebook's algorithm
show this to spanish speakers all of a sudden you're showing up in front of spanish speakers
it's just like a much faster way to get in front of them because that's what facebook's going to
show them right who are they going to show spanish out to people who speak spanish right so um okay
and you could even like adjust the ad creative to like show like you know like latino people
landscape like you want them to feel identified identify yeah okay cool but yeah i think that's a
really good idea all right great ideas thank you yeah yeah no problem all right what other
questions do we have here any other questions i've got a quick question sure all right so i finally
am working with a great manufacturer um like ready to order my sample and everything from them
and i'm just wondering what is the best way to lay out all of like the specs of my product for
them like the innovations is there like a long time ago um i was sent kind of just a document
from one of like my first coach back in september and not sure if that's still like an up-to-date
thing that is used by rainmakers to send manufacturers yeah yeah for sure um there
might even i think there might be something in the uh in the course that's kind of like a template
i want to say michelle coach michelle had made it and it was like uh maybe this is just for the
design i can't remember this would be in phase two but it was just kind of like a template
uh i'll show you one that i've done um oh wait i'm in the wrong account i did like a
i mean you can do anything any way for you to like just deliver written words with photos
is excellent so that's a google doc i did like a google slide thing whatever you want it to be
uh just make sure it's like words clear descriptions accompanied with pictures whenever
possible um that's just going to communicate your concepts really clearly if you haven't
already done this i love getting a like product sketch like done for like what i want um you could
depending on the product if it's like a kind of highly technical product or something you want
to do like a cad design like a cad drawing it's like think like you know engineering type it's
like really high quality lots of specs uh or if it's not that kind of product like it doesn't
really need a cab design you can still do a product sketch so that's what i did the example
i'm going to show you that's what i did and it just um this is something you can hire someone
on five or four um and i literally just like i described everything in words and asked them to
draw it like draw a product sketch of this took a few back and forth revisions but once i had it
this is the clearest way for me to communicate to the manufacturer what's in my head and like
what i'm trying to get them to do right
So this is the slide thing that I sent them.
So the first page is just, here's the overall design.
This is the part of the product sketch that they sent me.
So I'm just showing them the front, the back, the side.
And then I had gone back and forth
with the manufacturer on materials and sizing
and stuff like that.
And so once I picked, she sent me samples of the material.
And so I knew exactly what the name of the material was.
So see how I'm telling her, the exterior material
is going to be this.
The interior is going to be this.
This is the hardware that I want.
I'm sending her pictures of those things.
I'm sending her the dimensions.
I'm sending her links of other examples
that I found on the internet.
So I'm saying, see this example for the shape
of the top of your design.
I'm sending her this example of another product, not mine,
but something I found online that kind of captures what
I'm looking for, which, of course, isn't there anymore.
And then I'm just showing her both in pictures
and in written words.
I'm trying to describe what I want,
sending her other examples of other bags
when possible, just to give her a general idea.
So I would do something like this.
This could be easily in a Google Doc.
It could be in a slideshow, whatever you want.
But pictures, words, links, screenshots, other examples,
all of those things are great to communicate your ideas.
Perfect.
And you do recommend getting a sketch done of the product.
I do.
I think it's really helpful.
I've done products where I didn't do that,
that were simpler, especially if it's
like I'm taking a product that's mostly already exists,
and I'm just making tweaks to it.
This particular product was a design from scratch.
I really couldn't find anything like it.
And so I felt that a product sketch was absolutely needed
because I couldn't find anything like it.
And I really didn't know how else
to get the picture I had in my head across to them.
So it depends on how novel of an idea it is that you're making.
And I've made products that were entire,
like the whole communication was me sending
screenshots of other things.
I want this from this product, this from this product,
this little piece from this, and they put it together.
So you can get it done that way.
It just depends on how complex the idea is.
OK.
Awesome.
I appreciate that.
Thank you.
Yeah.
If you need any recommendations for fiber people,
I've worked with a few.
I can send you some of my favorites.
But yeah.
That would be awesome.
I'll send you the guy who did this.
He actually did a really good job and really cheap.
I think I paid him $20.
And all these pictures you see, he sent me all of these.
OK.
That was definitely worth it.
I don't even know really how he did it.
Some computer program.
I don't know.
That's not my forte.
But it was really cheap.
So let me find this guy's contact, and I'll send it to you.
That would be awesome.
Thank you.
Yeah.
All right.
Other questions?
I guess I have one more question.
Sure.
Kind of about patents.
So yesterday, I was doing a little bit of research,
just making sure there's nothing out there.
And right now, there is a patent pending.
It's more on the utility patent side.
OK.
Yeah.
And I'm not sure if it's going to be
a patent-pending patent or a patent-pending patent.
It's more on the utility patent side.
OK.
Like the overall concepts.
How nervous do you need to be about that and careful moving
forward?
Are you able to see the details of the utility patent?
Are you able to see what they have patented specifically?
Yeah.
It's pretty much the attachment mechanism on the bag.
So the product is a magnetic gym bag.
And so what the utility patent is for
is just how it connects to other magnetic surfaces.
And the biggest overall description
is just that it's a flat surface on the back of the bag
with magnets that attaches to another magnetic surface.
I see.
Is your design going to, in any way, be similar to that?
The attachment part, yes, just because that's
the whole concept of the bag itself.
But there are things that set it apart from their patent,
if that makes sense.
It's not just a bag.
It also acts as a phone stand for workouts.
Like, yeah.
It's got lots of other things.
What you need to be concerned about
is the specific thing they have patented.
So even if it weren't a bag, but you're
same mechanism, and that's what they have patented.
Even if it were a different product,
they could still try to sue someone for that.
Even if it were, say, a completely different product,
but they're using this patented concept
of how the magnetic thing connects surfaces.
That's the important part of it.
So you would want to just steer clear of that.
So how worried should you be?
If you're steering clear of what they have patented,
not worried.
As long as you're avoiding that, it's no problem.
If it could be construed in any way, they could,
I mean, if they tried to sue,
trying to sue you would be a pretty extreme move.
The first thing that they would do
is contact you with a cease and desist
and tell you to stop selling your product
and to dump all of your inventory.
And I've seen that happen before with people
where people reach out and were like,
you have to immediately stop selling this product.
They can even ask you to pay them
for any profits that you've earned on previous sales.
They're probably not going to try to sue you.
It's really expensive and a long process to do that,
but they can really mess up your situation
if you've ordered a thousand units
and then you can't sell them, right?
So you want to be really careful about steering clear
of anything that could be construed
as overlapping with their patent.
They don't even have to prove it, right?
They don't even have to prove
that you have in fact infringed on their patent.
If you tread on their territory in any way,
even if it's, you know,
they wouldn't, might not uphold an accord of law,
they can still, like they have the upper hand with Amazon.
Amazon doesn't play around with that.
So if they submit something to Amazon
and say, I think this person is infringing on my patent,
they're just going to take their side.
They're just immediately going to take their side
and shut down your listing.
They're not going to figure out who's right.
They're not interested in that.
They're just going to play it safe
with the person who filed the patent.
So the key here is don't piss off the patent owner.
Like avoid any confrontation with the patent owner
so that they don't even want to come after you.
Sometimes if they're your direct competitor,
they'll come after you anyway.
Like I have seen patent owners come after anyone
in their space,
even if they weren't doing anything with their patent,
just because they're stealing their sales.
And again, the burden of proof is on the person
who's trying to defend themselves at that point.
Like Amazon's siding with the patent owner.
So you want to like make a wide berth
around this patent owner person.
I know that it's probably the concept
and the keyword of it is like the magnetic thing.
But if you, if I were in that situation,
I'd try to avoid the magnetic thing entirely.
And then there's like no real argument there.
Like there's no argument.
Like I'm not even, it's not even magnetic.
I'm doing some other thing,
like some other attachment, some other cool idea.
If that kind of like shoots down the product idea entirely,
maybe if you still want to like hang onto the product,
I'd maybe get an opinion from like an IP attorney,
like an intellectual property person and just say like,
hey, like how risky do you think this is before I do this?
Just to kind of know.
But if you can avoid the magnetic thing entirely,
then I think you'd be safe.
But if that isn't a shoot down the idea,
then you might need to do a little deeper digging on it.
Yeah, I've kind of had the same thoughts
of doing a little bit more digging.
It's not like it hasn't been approved.
It honestly was just submitted.
So I know it takes a long time to even figure all that out
for the patent to get approved.
But like currently on Amazon, there are a lot.
It does.
Do they have anything on their listing
that says like patent pending or anything like that?
Not currently, not on Amazon that I've seen.
They are like the only kind of relatively big person
selling this product.
All of the other people on Amazon are just,
it's kind of a new thing.
And so there's people trying,
but there's not like a lot of reviews or there's great sales
but not a lot of reviews on Amazon yet
for most of the people, except for this one company.
Okay, that's probably why they're trying
Right, yeah.
They've seen some success.
Yes.
All right, cool.
I'll look more into it for sure.
Yeah, if you weren't digging.
Yeah, I'd reach out to an IP attorney.
You know who you could reach out to?
So Prime Corporate Services has a guy
who I think he's an IP attorney.
Bye Grima.
His name is Frank.
So you could start with Frank
because you can ask him an initial question
and it's not gonna cost you anything.
you at some point when it's going to cost something,
but you could probably get some free info out of him.
So especially because like they have a relationship with us.
So it's in their best interest to like make us happy basically.
So you can get more out of him than like just any random person
who isn't affiliated with us.
So check out Frank from Prime Corporate Services.
And he's dropping this in the chat.
Yeah, Lisa says, Frank is great.
He's done a lot of like brand registry trademark stuff,
but he'll know about patents too.
That's like in his wheelhouse.
And then here is the, I'm going to drop the link
for the Fiverr guy.
Fiverr.
I should have done this on my computer.
Then I could have copied it.
I'm just thinking.
R-E-4-I-G, I think that's right.
Check.
S-R-E-4-I-G-5-N, okay, I messed that up just a little bit.
Okay, let me see if this works.
I had two fours in here, hold on.
Four, all right, try that link, okay.
I'm really butchering this.
His name is Mark.
That's, you should see if that link works.
I'm trying to see, his prices look like they've gone up,
but I think I did the like, I did like the lowest,
I did the lowest one, honestly.
But, or, you know, even people like him,
you don't have to necessarily use him,
but like, you'll see the keywords that he's using,
and then you can look up other people.
Because at this point, I'd probably hire someone cheaper.
It looks like he's gone up a bit with all of his sales.
But yeah, you're looking for product sketch,
product designer, basically.
Awesome, thank you so much.
Yeah, no problem.
All righty.
Okay, what other questions do we have?
Anything else we wanna go over today?
You guys just mostly hanging out and listening?
Lisa's, Lisa squared, team Lisa's on the call.
Lisa's on the call, Lisa's on the call, Lisa's on the call.
All right, well, if there's no other questions,
I'm gonna wrap up early
and get to a couple of questions in my email here.
So last chance, any other questions?
Anyone wants to go over?
Okay, tomorrow, UCLides will be on 9 a.m.
And then Thursday, Stephen will be on 9 a.m.
So if you have more questions,
you wanna go over to UCLides,
if you have more questions, you wanna come back.
UCLides is especially great at marketing, advertising.
So come back for questions about that.
And Stephen will answer anything,
but he loves talking about AI these days, especially.
So if you wanna geek out on AI stuff,
go hang out with him on Thursday.
Other than that, I will see you guys next week.
All right, have a good week, everyone.