WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:10.880 screen real quick. Yep. Thank you. So basically I am working on, so one of the funnel is already 2 00:00:10.880 --> 00:00:17.440 live. There's a second one that I'm working on where the form is in Rainflow. It's sorry, 3 00:00:17.440 --> 00:00:23.600 actually this one is hiding behind the Zoom link. I have to scroll it down. This is a different one. 4 00:00:23.840 --> 00:00:31.360 Yeah, I can see it now. So this one is Megan. I was trying to create the same, 5 00:00:31.360 --> 00:00:38.720 duplicate the same funnel, but then I'm directly connecting my website to it rather than the form 6 00:00:38.720 --> 00:00:46.400 within on Facebook. So the form is in Rainflow, but then I'm getting this error where it's asking me 7 00:00:47.280 --> 00:00:58.000 to attach the, what was it called? Tracking or pixels, something about pixels. I was getting 8 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:03.280 an error that pixels need to be connected or something like that. And I was not able to 9 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:10.160 deploy or get my funnel live. So I was trying to figure out what does that mean and how can I, 10 00:01:10.160 --> 00:01:16.800 so this one is the active, which is already in like live. This has the form in Facebook 11 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:25.200 and then I duplicated the same one. And then that one, I now, now the form is not in Facebook, 12 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:32.880 but it's my two step funnel. So form is in Rainflow. So can I just open it? Edit it. Let 13 00:01:32.880 --> 00:01:39.280 me just open it and show you. So is it like the same campaign type or is it a different campaign? 14 00:01:39.280 --> 00:01:47.040 It is the same campaign type, but instead of the, instead of the form, like for example here, 15 00:01:48.160 --> 00:01:57.200 it just asked me, where was it? I can find it. Like it asks you, you want to add a form or a 16 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:04.480 website instead of the form I selected website option. So I'm not, I'm not manually creating 17 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:12.880 the form within here. So for example, destination, right? So for destination, I chose website. 18 00:02:12.880 --> 00:02:23.680 So this is my, like the complete funnel. And, and then I added this. So I just want this to, 19 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:29.920 I wanted to make it live. And also my other question was, if I want to change my creatives on 20 00:02:29.920 --> 00:02:35.360 this one, which I have duplicated, how do I change it? Because I have another picture, 21 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:40.080 other creative, I want to test it out. So I was thinking maybe on my second, 22 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:46.560 like this ad, I can use a different creative just to test it out simultaneously, like two creatives. 23 00:02:47.200 --> 00:02:53.120 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You can definitely do that. Okay. So the problem you're having is you need 24 00:02:53.120 --> 00:03:00.480 to set up a pixel before this. Yes, yes. It's asking me to set up some pics. It was somewhere. 25 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:07.680 I'm still learning this one. I mean, it was, I saw it somewhere, but I do not remember on top 26 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:16.000 of my mind. It's right here. Data set. It's asking me to set a data set and create it. And this one 27 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:24.320 is mandatory because it doesn't let me publish it or, you know, until this is set up. So I was 28 00:03:24.320 --> 00:03:29.680 not sure how to set this up. Yeah, basically what a pixel does, it looks like they're calling it 29 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:38.720 data set now. Yes. It's kind of like a tracker that you put on. I don't exactly know how it 30 00:03:38.720 --> 00:03:43.360 works, but it follows the person so that when they leave Facebook and go to your funnel, 31 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:51.920 Facebook can track what actions they take, which will then allow Facebook to give you accurate data. 32 00:03:52.480 --> 00:03:57.760 This many people ended up on the landing page. This many people like fill out the form. This 33 00:03:57.760 --> 00:04:02.320 many people made it to the second step. So you like set that up so that Facebook can provide 34 00:04:02.320 --> 00:04:07.280 that data. Without that, Facebook doesn't know what the person does. This is a pretty advanced 35 00:04:07.280 --> 00:04:13.600 advertising question, honestly, which is a better like Wednesday call like tomorrow. OK, yeah, I can 36 00:04:13.600 --> 00:04:22.240 do ads. I this is a common thing that's needed. And so Steven made a video for this once. I put 37 00:04:22.240 --> 00:04:27.520 it in the rainbow course. It's under the advanced section, but I'll drop the direct link to it here 38 00:04:27.520 --> 00:04:33.760 in the chat. It's like a 17 minute walkthrough of like how to install a pixel for your rainflow 39 00:04:33.760 --> 00:04:40.080 funnel. I would try that first. I want to say he recorded this last year. It could be that things 40 00:04:40.080 --> 00:04:44.720 look different and have changed. So kind of try to go through that on your own today. And then 41 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:51.360 I'd say come back tomorrow and see if you has any insight if you're not able to do it on your own. 42 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:56.880 I did do this successfully once, but it was a while ago and I'm not super confident about walking 43 00:04:56.880 --> 00:04:59.760 someone through it. So I would follow this video first. 44 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:02.160 see if you can get it set up. 45 00:05:02.160 --> 00:05:03.000 That's good. 46 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:06.760 And for the graphics, should I talk to Ecolite tomorrow then 47 00:05:06.760 --> 00:05:08.400 how to even look at the graphics? 48 00:05:08.400 --> 00:05:09.240 I can talk to him, that's fine. 49 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:12.040 Yeah, and basically all you're gonna do here is like, 50 00:05:12.040 --> 00:05:15.800 you can have two different or multiple different creatives 51 00:05:15.800 --> 00:05:17.960 within the same ad set. 52 00:05:17.960 --> 00:05:19.440 So you see how it's like three different, 53 00:05:19.440 --> 00:05:22.880 it's like campaign, ad set, and then ad, like a creative. 54 00:05:22.880 --> 00:05:25.760 You can have like 10 different creatives 55 00:05:25.760 --> 00:05:27.120 underneath that ad set. 56 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:29.320 So they can all be running under the same ad set 57 00:05:29.320 --> 00:05:30.400 and then you can compare and see 58 00:05:30.400 --> 00:05:31.760 which one performs better. 59 00:05:31.760 --> 00:05:35.200 But as far as like what you actually want in the creative, 60 00:05:35.200 --> 00:05:38.880 yeah, Ecolite is great with like marketing angles and stuff. 61 00:05:38.880 --> 00:05:41.520 So I would maybe brainstorm with him of like 62 00:05:41.520 --> 00:05:43.120 what types of creatives to try. 63 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:46.400 But if you just like, one time I had like six different, 64 00:05:46.400 --> 00:05:48.640 I just had AI make me a bunch of different photos 65 00:05:48.640 --> 00:05:52.360 and I put them all in a different like ad creative 66 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:54.080 and I let them run for like a week or two 67 00:05:54.080 --> 00:05:57.160 and I picked a winner, like which one performed the best. 68 00:05:57.160 --> 00:05:58.720 So you could just do that too. 69 00:05:59.720 --> 00:06:02.280 Data will tell you which one's performing the best. 70 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:06.760 I'll just dial back in then tomorrow 71 00:06:06.760 --> 00:06:07.600 and pick it up from there. 72 00:06:07.600 --> 00:06:09.560 And you said it's the advanced section, 73 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:11.360 you said from our phase. 74 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:12.200 Is it the- 75 00:06:12.200 --> 00:06:17.080 Yes, it's in the Rainflow course under advanced content, 76 00:06:17.080 --> 00:06:19.040 but I did drop the link in the chat 77 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:20.480 if you wanna just use that. 78 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:21.360 I'll just grab that. 79 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:22.200 All right. 80 00:06:22.200 --> 00:06:23.040 Thanks, Megan. 81 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:24.040 Yeah, no problem. 82 00:06:25.040 --> 00:06:26.840 Okie dokie. 83 00:06:26.840 --> 00:06:29.320 Let's see, who's next here? 84 00:06:29.320 --> 00:06:30.160 Carrie. 85 00:06:32.200 --> 00:06:34.960 So I'm asking for Sean and he's not here. 86 00:06:34.960 --> 00:06:36.400 So I can't share screen, 87 00:06:36.400 --> 00:06:39.920 but maybe you can just like give us tips or tricks. 88 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:43.320 We are trying to do our email campaign. 89 00:06:43.320 --> 00:06:44.840 We have it all set up. 90 00:06:44.840 --> 00:06:47.280 And for some reason in Shopify, 91 00:06:47.280 --> 00:06:51.640 it is not letting us tag our segment. 92 00:06:52.080 --> 00:06:55.560 So it won't let us launch the campaign. 93 00:06:56.440 --> 00:06:57.880 And we can't figure out why. 94 00:06:57.880 --> 00:07:00.560 Like we've been trying to launch for two days now. 95 00:07:00.560 --> 00:07:02.040 We have everything written out, 96 00:07:02.040 --> 00:07:04.240 everything sent, all the emails in, 97 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:07.040 each one is personalized per person. 98 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:08.200 And for whatever reason, 99 00:07:08.200 --> 00:07:11.000 Shopify won't let us tag the segment. 100 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:13.600 So it won't let us launch. 101 00:07:13.600 --> 00:07:14.440 Okay. 102 00:07:15.840 --> 00:07:18.440 You're using Shopify to send the emails? 103 00:07:18.440 --> 00:07:20.000 We're using Shopify. 104 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:22.840 So I think Sean got Sequoia. 105 00:07:22.840 --> 00:07:27.080 That was what like the chat has been suggesting. 106 00:07:27.080 --> 00:07:30.200 They did not suggest us doing Rainflow. 107 00:07:30.200 --> 00:07:33.400 So we are doing everything in Shopify. 108 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:35.640 Okay. 109 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:39.120 And where are your contacts? 110 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:40.320 Where's your email list? 111 00:07:40.320 --> 00:07:41.760 Everything is in Shopify. 112 00:07:41.760 --> 00:07:43.080 It was in Rainflow, 113 00:07:43.080 --> 00:07:46.240 but we integrated everything into Shopify. 114 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:47.080 Okay. 115 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:51.960 I don't, I have no experience with anything on Shopify 116 00:07:51.960 --> 00:07:54.480 as far as email campaigns go. 117 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:57.480 I would honestly just have to look at it and poke around. 118 00:07:57.480 --> 00:07:58.960 Okay. 119 00:07:58.960 --> 00:08:00.280 Yeah, I don't know. 120 00:08:02.680 --> 00:08:03.680 I wonder why. 121 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:04.520 I mean, 122 00:08:06.960 --> 00:08:07.960 I'm trying to think. 123 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:11.400 If you've already got everything set up in Shopify, 124 00:08:11.400 --> 00:08:12.640 probably just keep going with it. 125 00:08:12.640 --> 00:08:15.320 But you can integrate Shopify with Rainflow. 126 00:08:15.320 --> 00:08:16.920 That's like how I would use it 127 00:08:17.760 --> 00:08:20.600 because I'd use Shopify as like the checkout place, 128 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:24.000 but I would do all my email marketing in CRM and Rainflow. 129 00:08:25.040 --> 00:08:25.880 With Shopify, 130 00:08:25.880 --> 00:08:27.960 you're going to have to start getting add-ons and stuff. 131 00:08:27.960 --> 00:08:28.800 Right? 132 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:30.600 Like you have to add different apps and stuff 133 00:08:30.600 --> 00:08:32.280 because Shopify is meant to be a store 134 00:08:32.280 --> 00:08:34.520 and then they have all these apps that you add 135 00:08:38.120 --> 00:08:39.080 and things. 136 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:40.679 But if you've already got it all set up, 137 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:42.159 I'd probably try to keep going with it. 138 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:44.520 I just don't have any experience with it. 139 00:08:44.560 --> 00:08:48.520 So if he wants to come back sometime on a call 140 00:08:48.520 --> 00:08:50.120 and we can like look at it, 141 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:53.320 but I don't know off the top of my head, 142 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:54.760 like where exactly to look. 143 00:08:54.760 --> 00:08:56.680 It's probably just, you know, it's a different platform. 144 00:08:56.680 --> 00:08:58.760 So there's probably something hidden somewhere. 145 00:08:58.760 --> 00:09:01.960 You just gotta like find that setting. 146 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:04.320 So maybe have him come back where he can like share screen 147 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:05.280 and we can look through it. 148 00:09:05.280 --> 00:09:06.200 And it could be, you know, 149 00:09:06.200 --> 00:09:08.480 tomorrow you guys could help him too. 150 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:09.320 Okay. 151 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:10.160 It doesn't have to be next week. 152 00:09:10.160 --> 00:09:13.040 So, or Thursday with Steven, whatever works. 153 00:09:13.040 --> 00:09:14.520 Okay. Thank you. 154 00:09:14.520 --> 00:09:15.720 Yeah, no problem. 155 00:09:16.800 --> 00:09:19.720 Okay, Melissa, I see your hand up. 156 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:20.880 Hello. 157 00:09:20.880 --> 00:09:21.840 Hello. 158 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:22.680 Okay. 159 00:09:23.720 --> 00:09:27.800 So I last week talked to you, Clyde. 160 00:09:27.800 --> 00:09:30.760 And so he's been like trying to move me along, 161 00:09:30.760 --> 00:09:32.720 trying to figure this out. 162 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:36.040 So I have a new ad running on Facebook. 163 00:09:37.840 --> 00:09:40.440 I use the ultimate ad optimizer, 164 00:09:40.440 --> 00:09:43.200 whatever it was in the eight figure I got helped a lot. 165 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:46.880 And so I've got, I'm basically, 166 00:09:46.880 --> 00:09:50.560 I've got this website and the business idea 167 00:09:50.560 --> 00:09:55.560 is to create simple websites for service businesses. 168 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:59.160 You know, the one man show kind of a thing, you know, 169 00:09:59.160 --> 00:10:00.000 where so. 170 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:05.600 that's the niche, that's the target. From everything I can tell, like having run through 171 00:10:06.160 --> 00:10:11.520 the ultimate ad chat, going back and forth, showing that everything is set up, everything's 172 00:10:11.520 --> 00:10:15.760 working. I mean, I'm just going to, let's just, just try, like, that's what it's saying. I'm 173 00:10:15.760 --> 00:10:23.520 getting landing page views, but just nobody yet, like no leads, no somebody, like filling it out. 174 00:10:23.520 --> 00:10:29.280 This time the ad is for a free sample website, you know, and it's like, click here, fill this out, 175 00:10:29.280 --> 00:10:34.400 get a free sample website. And I think, like, honestly, I think the big part of it is that 176 00:10:34.400 --> 00:10:38.480 there's a ton of people doing this. Like, there's a lot of people out there doing what I'm doing, 177 00:10:38.480 --> 00:10:44.400 like, hey, get out. So I guess my question now is, I'm coming up with, thinking about, like, 178 00:10:44.400 --> 00:10:49.680 all the things I've learned now, being a mastermind, the Instagram, right now, I'm just 179 00:10:49.680 --> 00:10:55.120 running the ad on Facebook. And so it's just, I started just running this one ad, and I'm just 180 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:59.600 trying to think about, like, when it comes to the brand building, and it comes to the Instagram 181 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:07.840 community, that do you think, like, it would make sense to try, you know, like, because I thought, 182 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:16.160 should I try to start an Instagram and start, or just stay on Facebook and, but, like, offer 183 00:11:16.160 --> 00:11:22.320 things like, I guess I'm saying what else to offer, like something offer for free, or like, 184 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:27.520 I just learned how to make loom videos, I can make a loom video on, like, how to set up your 185 00:11:27.520 --> 00:11:31.680 domain, like, that's something people don't ever know how to do. And like, if they're going to need 186 00:11:31.680 --> 00:11:36.000 a website, they're going to have to buy a domain. So I'm like, I could, like, create some quick 187 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:40.480 little videos and be like here. And, you know, because then I'm thinking, well, Instagram, 188 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:45.840 I could start an Instagram and like, start offering, like, hey, click this and get a free 189 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:49.680 video on how to set up, you know, like, I'm just trying to think about, 190 00:11:50.560 --> 00:11:55.920 what other smaller free things can I offer to start getting people to, like, 191 00:11:57.040 --> 00:12:02.400 respond or engage in any way so that, because I still think even signing up for a free sample 192 00:12:02.400 --> 00:12:07.520 website is still too much. Like, I don't even know if I need a website. And my husband is, 193 00:12:07.520 --> 00:12:12.560 he is a service business, like, it's this niche thing. And he has so much business, he doesn't, 194 00:12:12.560 --> 00:12:16.560 he doesn't have a website, and he doesn't need it. He's got more business than he needs. And I 195 00:12:16.560 --> 00:12:22.480 think sometimes that's the case, that people don't think they need a website. So I'm having to, 196 00:12:22.480 --> 00:12:30.000 like, I want to figure out how to push past that. Okay. I mean, two things come to mind. 197 00:12:30.800 --> 00:12:36.640 The first thing, and I, I mean, this might be more the issue, honestly, 198 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:41.760 especially if you're not having anyone, like, sign up for it, like, even the freebie. 199 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:50.480 That kind of tells me that people don't think this is for them. Like, when you feel when you, 200 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:58.320 like, come across an ad, that is, like, the algorithm has targeted you so well, that it's 201 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:04.480 like, oh, my gosh, this is neat. Like, it totally has been stalking me and what I'm watching on 202 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:09.840 Netflix and looking at my Google searches and put this out in front of my face and knew I wouldn't 203 00:13:09.840 --> 00:13:16.080 be able to resist. When you come across that, it is just a matter of time before they take action. 204 00:13:17.040 --> 00:13:23.840 Like, I'm thinking of a recent thing that I, like, signed up for. And it took me, I mean, 205 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:29.360 I probably saw, like, an ad for it, like, four or five, six times before I signed up. And then I 206 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:33.520 started getting their email, like, it took a long time. But like, it was so targeted to me, 207 00:13:33.520 --> 00:13:38.880 I could not help but feel like, wow, this is just like, it's on the money, right? When you feel like 208 00:13:38.880 --> 00:13:45.280 that, it's just a matter of time before they take action. And so usually, it's an issue of, like, 209 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:52.080 you're either not, like, speaking the language of the target audience, so they don't feel identified 210 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:58.400 with it. Or maybe it's not even clear who the target audience is, like, you haven't niched 211 00:13:58.400 --> 00:14:04.960 down enough. So like, you know, just saying, I can create a website for any business owner is a 212 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:10.800 pretty big net to cast. And even Facebook doesn't know who to show it to. That could literally be 213 00:14:10.800 --> 00:14:18.000 any person on planet Earth, you know? Yeah. I mean, like, right now, like, the ad is targeted, 214 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:24.080 like, to service business. So it's like, I like the list of, like, HVAC, snowplow, landscape, 215 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:31.120 okay, you know, cleaning, like, it is kind of narrowed down to like that. And like, the few, 216 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:35.600 like, there's like one comment I got that didn't really make a lot of sense. And like, 217 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:40.480 but they're like, people are liking and there's like, little by little bits of like, people say, 218 00:14:40.480 --> 00:14:46.640 and I look at their profiles, and I can't really see much about them, you know, but it's targeted 219 00:14:46.640 --> 00:14:51.440 somewhat. It's not just going like, anybody who owns a business, like, it has been kind of 220 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:59.200 targeted towards that more smaller business one man show type of thing. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's 221 00:14:59.200 --> 00:14:59.920 still a pretty wide. 222 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:03.400 I've been honestly, I mean, that's, it's a lot. That's a lot 223 00:15:03.400 --> 00:15:07.400 of people. And it's hard for someone to come across that and 224 00:15:07.400 --> 00:15:10.320 be like, Oh, that's me. Like, it's just too wide of a net. 225 00:15:13.040 --> 00:15:18.280 Like, okay, so I actually was working with a guy a few months 226 00:15:18.280 --> 00:15:21.280 back, and he's doing a lot of what you're doing. I mean, very 227 00:15:21.280 --> 00:15:24.360 similar, except he's also doing like, in addition to the 228 00:15:24.360 --> 00:15:27.840 building of the site, he helps them with SEO and helps them 229 00:15:27.840 --> 00:15:30.800 rank on Google searches so that they can get leads for their 230 00:15:30.800 --> 00:15:36.000 business, which is a good little thing to add. But he only worked 231 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:40.160 with people who were like, our guests. Do you know what I mean? 232 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:44.240 Like, people? Yeah, those are the only people he worked with. 233 00:15:44.280 --> 00:15:47.560 I mean, it was so specific. It was Yeah, it was almost like 234 00:15:47.560 --> 00:15:51.480 hyper specific. And I was like, Why did you choose this? And 235 00:15:51.480 --> 00:15:54.840 he's like, Well, I did a couple and then it was like, I kind of 236 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:58.960 knew what he was doing what to do. So I like provide really 237 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:02.080 excellent service to the people in this industry. And he gets 238 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:05.280 and he he's like, I get enough business from everyone in the 239 00:16:05.280 --> 00:16:08.960 country. Right? There are arborists. He's like, I don't 240 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:12.600 need to branch out. So like, when you when and when a person 241 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:15.800 comes across that ad, and is like, I'm an arborist, and I 242 00:16:15.800 --> 00:16:20.040 need that like, it's right. It's, it hits harder. Oh, like, 243 00:16:20.040 --> 00:16:23.880 it feels really specific. Yeah. So me if you don't want to niche 244 00:16:23.880 --> 00:16:26.960 down to a specific industry, which I think is pretty 245 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:30.840 specific, you can be shown in another way. Like you could 246 00:16:31.680 --> 00:16:36.160 single out specifically, like, like you're saying service based 247 00:16:36.160 --> 00:16:38.560 businesses, but you could add some filters to that. Like you 248 00:16:38.560 --> 00:16:39.640 could say, 249 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:47.920 what am I looking for? Like, single LLC people? Like, what 250 00:16:47.920 --> 00:16:52.160 am I trying to say? Like single owner run businesses, right? Oh, 251 00:16:52.160 --> 00:16:54.400 employees, like, it's just a one man show, like you're 252 00:16:54.400 --> 00:16:58.080 saying, like, like, literally use that word. If you use that 253 00:16:58.080 --> 00:17:02.000 word in the ad, Facebook will find people who are single 254 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:07.680 owner LLCs. I'm not going to say that in the ad, you could also 255 00:17:07.720 --> 00:17:10.760 maybe I would say it might be a good idea for you to niche down 256 00:17:10.760 --> 00:17:17.319 by age, like people over the age of 40. So, like, single people 257 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:20.680 over the age of 40, who run a business by themselves, a 258 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:23.680 service business, like that's more niche to the point where 259 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:25.680 like, someone's gonna feel called out when they see that 260 00:17:25.680 --> 00:17:29.120 ad and Facebook is gonna have a much better idea of who to send 261 00:17:29.120 --> 00:17:31.920 that to and show it to you. Yeah, that's like, that's the 262 00:17:31.920 --> 00:17:34.160 first thing I would do. That would be step one, because I 263 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:38.080 think you'll see, like, not necessarily more interest, but 264 00:17:38.120 --> 00:17:42.640 more better quality, right? People are more likely to take 265 00:17:42.640 --> 00:17:47.880 action. Yes. The second thing I would do is think about thinking 266 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:52.400 about anything that would get in the way of someone saying yes 267 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:56.440 to that, and provide us an answer for that in the lead 268 00:17:56.440 --> 00:17:59.800 magnet. So like, for example, you just said, they might not 269 00:17:59.800 --> 00:18:02.560 even know they need one, say that, like, say their thoughts 270 00:18:02.560 --> 00:18:05.120 out loud and be like, right, you might be thinking, I don't know 271 00:18:05.120 --> 00:18:09.080 if I need one, I can tell you if you need, like, literally call 272 00:18:09.080 --> 00:18:11.600 that out and tell them that you're going to give them the 273 00:18:11.600 --> 00:18:14.800 answer to every question they have. You don't know how to get 274 00:18:14.800 --> 00:18:17.560 a domain that's been holding you up. I'll get it for you. Yeah, 275 00:18:17.560 --> 00:18:20.480 I'm not gonna send you a video, I'm gonna do it for you. Yeah, 276 00:18:20.560 --> 00:18:23.720 you don't even have to worry about it. You know, like, just 277 00:18:23.840 --> 00:18:28.440 take away all the friction. So think through or talk through a 278 00:18:28.440 --> 00:18:33.000 chat. Like what are all of the like, all the opposition? Yes. 279 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:37.560 What what are those barriers and then answer that in your full 280 00:18:37.560 --> 00:18:41.480 custom package, like provide every solution to that? Yeah. 281 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:44.560 And I think you're hitting the right person, they feel called 282 00:18:44.560 --> 00:18:47.240 out, you're answering every objection they have. I mean, how 283 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:50.880 can they not say no? Yeah. Right. Yeah. Again, it's just a 284 00:18:50.880 --> 00:18:54.640 matter of time before they take action. Right? Right. Well, and 285 00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:58.200 I do want to like I mean, I just I mean, like this new ad, it 286 00:18:58.200 --> 00:19:01.400 hasn't been running for a week, you know, so I'm like, need to 287 00:19:01.400 --> 00:19:06.400 be patient. So I'm like, do you think like, is that my thought 288 00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:10.000 is to just because the one that I'm running, it's got a picture 289 00:19:10.000 --> 00:19:13.040 it's I'm focusing on landscape. I mean, that's kind of like I'm 290 00:19:13.080 --> 00:19:16.760 it's my website says like any service business, but it's I am 291 00:19:16.760 --> 00:19:19.320 focusing on landscapers because it was snowplow. But now we're 292 00:19:19.320 --> 00:19:22.000 out of that season, because I'm like, kind of like it's West 293 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:25.600 Michigan. Okay, a lot of but now it's landscape season. So I was 294 00:19:25.600 --> 00:19:29.000 like, well, folks, so the picture is landscapers. So it is 295 00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:33.040 kind of focused on that. But my thought is like, Oh, go ahead. 296 00:19:33.040 --> 00:19:35.920 All right. I just thought when you said that, do you have a lot 297 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:39.560 of non English speaking landscapers where you live? Yes. 298 00:19:39.840 --> 00:19:43.680 That's an extremely common, extremely common profession for 299 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:47.640 Hispanic immigrants is landscaping. I would run the ad 300 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:51.000 in Spanish, too. Okay, that was good. That was something else. 301 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:53.880 Oh, yeah, because I see a lot of comments coming. And there are 302 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:57.640 Spanish speakers. And I'm like, yes. And maybe that's what the 303 00:19:57.640 --> 00:19:59.800 number one thing holding them back is going to be 304 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:05.280 yeah the language they don't know how to build the website in english or you know they're trying to 305 00:20:05.280 --> 00:20:10.080 hire a friend who kind of speaks in it i have a lot of experience with this i literally was an esl 306 00:20:10.080 --> 00:20:14.560 teacher i work mostly with the hispanic population i know all the objectives they have yeah and 307 00:20:14.560 --> 00:20:18.800 they're not going to be super familiar with technology usually first-gen immigrants are 308 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:25.040 so you are going to be like i'm going to be your liaison to the english-speaking community 309 00:20:25.040 --> 00:20:29.920 it's gonna be easy it's gonna be great you just show up and do what you want to do so that would 310 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:34.480 be a really good target audience for you honestly you can make a whole niche just out of pads yeah 311 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:39.280 it's only i don't wish i knew how to speak spanish that would help but there's chat gpt 312 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:44.640 honestly you don't need to you don't need to because the service you are providing them 313 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:50.480 is they need english for the only reason you would need spanish is to like ask them questions 314 00:20:50.480 --> 00:20:56.000 right but if you're like you know through messages you can get the job done yeah for sure 315 00:20:56.000 --> 00:21:01.680 but so mike do you think like for like let's say next their next step like i'm definitely that 316 00:21:01.680 --> 00:21:08.640 gives me a lot to research my my first thought is let the current one run but maybe make like 317 00:21:08.640 --> 00:21:15.040 copy it make a spanish version of it yes and run that i would run it in english and spanish 318 00:21:15.120 --> 00:21:21.200 same exact yeah okay so maybe that'll be my first step will be copy the same one in spanish 319 00:21:21.760 --> 00:21:28.000 and run it at the same time and then start yeah and think about what to answer yeah the reason 320 00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:33.680 why i run it in spanish to see how it performed is because uh you know they'll still they may still 321 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:39.600 come across the english ad um because facebook can translate it for them or they can see you 322 00:21:39.600 --> 00:21:46.240 know they can see the translated version but if you put it in spanish it tells facebook's algorithm 323 00:21:46.240 --> 00:21:50.400 show this to spanish speakers all of a sudden you're showing up in front of spanish speakers 324 00:21:50.400 --> 00:21:55.600 it's just like a much faster way to get in front of them because that's what facebook's going to 325 00:21:55.600 --> 00:22:00.800 show them right who are they going to show spanish out to people who speak spanish right so um okay 326 00:22:00.800 --> 00:22:08.240 and you could even like adjust the ad creative to like show like you know like latino people 327 00:22:08.240 --> 00:22:13.760 landscape like you want them to feel identified identify yeah okay cool but yeah i think that's a 328 00:22:13.760 --> 00:22:20.320 really good idea all right great ideas thank you yeah yeah no problem all right what other 329 00:22:20.320 --> 00:22:35.520 questions do we have here any other questions i've got a quick question sure all right so i finally 330 00:22:35.520 --> 00:22:41.920 am working with a great manufacturer um like ready to order my sample and everything from them 331 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:47.360 and i'm just wondering what is the best way to lay out all of like the specs of my product for 332 00:22:47.360 --> 00:22:56.240 them like the innovations is there like a long time ago um i was sent kind of just a document 333 00:22:56.240 --> 00:23:03.120 from one of like my first coach back in september and not sure if that's still like an up-to-date 334 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:09.600 thing that is used by rainmakers to send manufacturers yeah yeah for sure um there 335 00:23:09.600 --> 00:23:16.160 might even i think there might be something in the uh in the course that's kind of like a template 336 00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:22.000 i want to say michelle coach michelle had made it and it was like uh maybe this is just for the 337 00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:27.600 design i can't remember this would be in phase two but it was just kind of like a template 338 00:23:27.600 --> 00:23:35.840 uh i'll show you one that i've done um oh wait i'm in the wrong account i did like a 339 00:23:35.840 --> 00:23:42.800 i mean you can do anything any way for you to like just deliver written words with photos 340 00:23:42.800 --> 00:23:49.680 is excellent so that's a google doc i did like a google slide thing whatever you want it to be 341 00:23:50.400 --> 00:23:56.400 uh just make sure it's like words clear descriptions accompanied with pictures whenever 342 00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:02.640 possible um that's just going to communicate your concepts really clearly if you haven't 343 00:24:02.640 --> 00:24:12.720 already done this i love getting a like product sketch like done for like what i want um you could 344 00:24:12.720 --> 00:24:16.720 depending on the product if it's like a kind of highly technical product or something you want 345 00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:22.240 to do like a cad design like a cad drawing it's like think like you know engineering type it's 346 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:29.600 like really high quality lots of specs uh or if it's not that kind of product like it doesn't 347 00:24:29.600 --> 00:24:34.240 really need a cab design you can still do a product sketch so that's what i did the example 348 00:24:34.240 --> 00:24:40.720 i'm going to show you that's what i did and it just um this is something you can hire someone 349 00:24:40.720 --> 00:24:47.200 on five or four um and i literally just like i described everything in words and asked them to 350 00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:52.880 draw it like draw a product sketch of this took a few back and forth revisions but once i had it 351 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:57.760 this is the clearest way for me to communicate to the manufacturer what's in my head and like 352 00:24:57.760 --> 00:24:59.760 what i'm trying to get them to do right 353 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.760 So this is the slide thing that I sent them. 354 00:25:03.760 --> 00:25:06.120 So the first page is just, here's the overall design. 355 00:25:06.120 --> 00:25:09.560 This is the part of the product sketch that they sent me. 356 00:25:09.560 --> 00:25:12.680 So I'm just showing them the front, the back, the side. 357 00:25:12.680 --> 00:25:14.920 And then I had gone back and forth 358 00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:17.520 with the manufacturer on materials and sizing 359 00:25:17.520 --> 00:25:18.320 and stuff like that. 360 00:25:18.320 --> 00:25:22.680 And so once I picked, she sent me samples of the material. 361 00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:25.960 And so I knew exactly what the name of the material was. 362 00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:29.560 So see how I'm telling her, the exterior material 363 00:25:29.560 --> 00:25:30.400 is going to be this. 364 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:31.800 The interior is going to be this. 365 00:25:31.800 --> 00:25:33.200 This is the hardware that I want. 366 00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:35.640 I'm sending her pictures of those things. 367 00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:37.240 I'm sending her the dimensions. 368 00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:41.560 I'm sending her links of other examples 369 00:25:41.560 --> 00:25:43.080 that I found on the internet. 370 00:25:43.080 --> 00:25:46.440 So I'm saying, see this example for the shape 371 00:25:46.440 --> 00:25:49.200 of the top of your design. 372 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:52.640 I'm sending her this example of another product, not mine, 373 00:25:52.640 --> 00:25:54.920 but something I found online that kind of captures what 374 00:25:54.920 --> 00:25:57.760 I'm looking for, which, of course, isn't there anymore. 375 00:25:57.760 --> 00:26:01.160 And then I'm just showing her both in pictures 376 00:26:01.160 --> 00:26:03.320 and in written words. 377 00:26:03.320 --> 00:26:05.960 I'm trying to describe what I want, 378 00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:08.360 sending her other examples of other bags 379 00:26:08.360 --> 00:26:12.840 when possible, just to give her a general idea. 380 00:26:12.840 --> 00:26:14.600 So I would do something like this. 381 00:26:14.600 --> 00:26:16.080 This could be easily in a Google Doc. 382 00:26:16.080 --> 00:26:18.080 It could be in a slideshow, whatever you want. 383 00:26:18.080 --> 00:26:23.320 But pictures, words, links, screenshots, other examples, 384 00:26:23.320 --> 00:26:26.880 all of those things are great to communicate your ideas. 385 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:27.360 Perfect. 386 00:26:27.360 --> 00:26:31.200 And you do recommend getting a sketch done of the product. 387 00:26:31.200 --> 00:26:31.720 I do. 388 00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:33.640 I think it's really helpful. 389 00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:35.760 I've done products where I didn't do that, 390 00:26:35.760 --> 00:26:38.640 that were simpler, especially if it's 391 00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:42.320 like I'm taking a product that's mostly already exists, 392 00:26:42.320 --> 00:26:44.560 and I'm just making tweaks to it. 393 00:26:44.560 --> 00:26:47.840 This particular product was a design from scratch. 394 00:26:47.840 --> 00:26:49.520 I really couldn't find anything like it. 395 00:26:49.520 --> 00:26:53.000 And so I felt that a product sketch was absolutely needed 396 00:26:53.000 --> 00:26:54.760 because I couldn't find anything like it. 397 00:26:54.760 --> 00:26:56.760 And I really didn't know how else 398 00:26:56.760 --> 00:27:01.000 to get the picture I had in my head across to them. 399 00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:05.360 So it depends on how novel of an idea it is that you're making. 400 00:27:05.360 --> 00:27:08.840 And I've made products that were entire, 401 00:27:08.840 --> 00:27:11.320 like the whole communication was me sending 402 00:27:11.320 --> 00:27:13.560 screenshots of other things. 403 00:27:13.560 --> 00:27:15.800 I want this from this product, this from this product, 404 00:27:15.800 --> 00:27:18.920 this little piece from this, and they put it together. 405 00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:20.320 So you can get it done that way. 406 00:27:20.320 --> 00:27:23.080 It just depends on how complex the idea is. 407 00:27:23.080 --> 00:27:24.000 OK. 408 00:27:24.000 --> 00:27:24.480 Awesome. 409 00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:25.120 I appreciate that. 410 00:27:25.120 --> 00:27:25.600 Thank you. 411 00:27:25.600 --> 00:27:26.080 Yeah. 412 00:27:26.080 --> 00:27:29.200 If you need any recommendations for fiber people, 413 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:30.320 I've worked with a few. 414 00:27:30.320 --> 00:27:32.000 I can send you some of my favorites. 415 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:32.920 But yeah. 416 00:27:32.920 --> 00:27:34.760 That would be awesome. 417 00:27:34.760 --> 00:27:36.280 I'll send you the guy who did this. 418 00:27:36.280 --> 00:27:38.400 He actually did a really good job and really cheap. 419 00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:39.800 I think I paid him $20. 420 00:27:39.800 --> 00:27:44.080 And all these pictures you see, he sent me all of these. 421 00:27:44.080 --> 00:27:44.600 OK. 422 00:27:44.600 --> 00:27:45.920 That was definitely worth it. 423 00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:47.600 I don't even know really how he did it. 424 00:27:47.600 --> 00:27:48.600 Some computer program. 425 00:27:48.600 --> 00:27:49.160 I don't know. 426 00:27:49.160 --> 00:27:50.040 That's not my forte. 427 00:27:50.040 --> 00:27:51.160 But it was really cheap. 428 00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:59.000 So let me find this guy's contact, and I'll send it to you. 429 00:27:59.000 --> 00:27:59.960 That would be awesome. 430 00:27:59.960 --> 00:28:01.200 Thank you. 431 00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:01.680 Yeah. 432 00:28:04.200 --> 00:28:06.360 All right. 433 00:28:06.360 --> 00:28:07.640 Other questions? 434 00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.840 I guess I have one more question. 435 00:28:11.840 --> 00:28:13.840 Sure. 436 00:28:13.840 --> 00:28:15.800 Kind of about patents. 437 00:28:15.800 --> 00:28:17.920 So yesterday, I was doing a little bit of research, 438 00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:20.680 just making sure there's nothing out there. 439 00:28:20.680 --> 00:28:24.120 And right now, there is a patent pending. 440 00:28:24.120 --> 00:28:27.480 It's more on the utility patent side. 441 00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:28.000 OK. 442 00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:28.520 Yeah. 443 00:28:28.520 --> 00:28:30.560 And I'm not sure if it's going to be 444 00:28:30.560 --> 00:28:34.440 a patent-pending patent or a patent-pending patent. 445 00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:37.200 It's more on the utility patent side. 446 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:38.360 OK. 447 00:28:38.360 --> 00:28:40.640 Like the overall concepts. 448 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:46.200 How nervous do you need to be about that and careful moving 449 00:28:46.200 --> 00:28:47.080 forward? 450 00:28:47.080 --> 00:28:51.440 Are you able to see the details of the utility patent? 451 00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:54.440 Are you able to see what they have patented specifically? 452 00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:54.960 Yeah. 453 00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:58.600 It's pretty much the attachment mechanism on the bag. 454 00:28:58.600 --> 00:29:01.600 So the product is a magnetic gym bag. 455 00:29:01.600 --> 00:29:04.080 And so what the utility patent is for 456 00:29:04.120 --> 00:29:08.480 is just how it connects to other magnetic surfaces. 457 00:29:08.480 --> 00:29:11.720 And the biggest overall description 458 00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:17.120 is just that it's a flat surface on the back of the bag 459 00:29:17.120 --> 00:29:22.000 with magnets that attaches to another magnetic surface. 460 00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:23.600 I see. 461 00:29:23.600 --> 00:29:28.360 Is your design going to, in any way, be similar to that? 462 00:29:28.360 --> 00:29:32.920 The attachment part, yes, just because that's 463 00:29:32.920 --> 00:29:35.520 the whole concept of the bag itself. 464 00:29:35.520 --> 00:29:41.440 But there are things that set it apart from their patent, 465 00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:42.360 if that makes sense. 466 00:29:42.360 --> 00:29:43.640 It's not just a bag. 467 00:29:43.640 --> 00:29:48.640 It also acts as a phone stand for workouts. 468 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:49.240 Like, yeah. 469 00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:51.200 It's got lots of other things. 470 00:29:51.200 --> 00:29:53.120 What you need to be concerned about 471 00:29:53.120 --> 00:29:56.880 is the specific thing they have patented. 472 00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:59.280 So even if it weren't a bag, but you're 473 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:02.220 same mechanism, and that's what they have patented. 474 00:30:02.220 --> 00:30:03.720 Even if it were a different product, 475 00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.080 they could still try to sue someone for that. 476 00:30:07.080 --> 00:30:10.920 Even if it were, say, a completely different product, 477 00:30:10.920 --> 00:30:14.200 but they're using this patented concept 478 00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:16.880 of how the magnetic thing connects surfaces. 479 00:30:16.880 --> 00:30:18.680 That's the important part of it. 480 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:21.400 So you would want to just steer clear of that. 481 00:30:21.400 --> 00:30:22.640 So how worried should you be? 482 00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:24.840 If you're steering clear of what they have patented, 483 00:30:24.840 --> 00:30:26.200 not worried. 484 00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:28.960 As long as you're avoiding that, it's no problem. 485 00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:34.560 If it could be construed in any way, they could, 486 00:30:34.560 --> 00:30:36.880 I mean, if they tried to sue, 487 00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:39.840 trying to sue you would be a pretty extreme move. 488 00:30:39.840 --> 00:30:41.960 The first thing that they would do 489 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:44.200 is contact you with a cease and desist 490 00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:46.480 and tell you to stop selling your product 491 00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:49.520 and to dump all of your inventory. 492 00:30:49.520 --> 00:30:51.760 And I've seen that happen before with people 493 00:30:51.760 --> 00:30:52.800 where people reach out and were like, 494 00:30:52.800 --> 00:30:55.040 you have to immediately stop selling this product. 495 00:30:55.040 --> 00:30:58.400 They can even ask you to pay them 496 00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:02.840 for any profits that you've earned on previous sales. 497 00:31:03.800 --> 00:31:05.320 They're probably not going to try to sue you. 498 00:31:05.320 --> 00:31:08.000 It's really expensive and a long process to do that, 499 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:11.520 but they can really mess up your situation 500 00:31:11.520 --> 00:31:13.000 if you've ordered a thousand units 501 00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:14.720 and then you can't sell them, right? 502 00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:19.120 So you want to be really careful about steering clear 503 00:31:19.120 --> 00:31:22.040 of anything that could be construed 504 00:31:22.040 --> 00:31:24.000 as overlapping with their patent. 505 00:31:25.360 --> 00:31:27.280 They don't even have to prove it, right? 506 00:31:27.280 --> 00:31:28.640 They don't even have to prove 507 00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:30.640 that you have in fact infringed on their patent. 508 00:31:30.640 --> 00:31:35.160 If you tread on their territory in any way, 509 00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:36.440 even if it's, you know, 510 00:31:36.440 --> 00:31:39.720 they wouldn't, might not uphold an accord of law, 511 00:31:39.720 --> 00:31:42.440 they can still, like they have the upper hand with Amazon. 512 00:31:42.440 --> 00:31:44.160 Amazon doesn't play around with that. 513 00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:46.760 So if they submit something to Amazon 514 00:31:46.760 --> 00:31:49.080 and say, I think this person is infringing on my patent, 515 00:31:49.080 --> 00:31:50.800 they're just going to take their side. 516 00:31:50.800 --> 00:31:52.360 They're just immediately going to take their side 517 00:31:52.360 --> 00:31:53.280 and shut down your listing. 518 00:31:53.280 --> 00:31:55.840 They're not going to figure out who's right. 519 00:31:55.840 --> 00:31:57.400 They're not interested in that. 520 00:31:57.400 --> 00:31:58.680 They're just going to play it safe 521 00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:01.040 with the person who filed the patent. 522 00:32:01.040 --> 00:32:04.680 So the key here is don't piss off the patent owner. 523 00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:08.160 Like avoid any confrontation with the patent owner 524 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:10.280 so that they don't even want to come after you. 525 00:32:10.280 --> 00:32:13.160 Sometimes if they're your direct competitor, 526 00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:14.360 they'll come after you anyway. 527 00:32:14.360 --> 00:32:18.080 Like I have seen patent owners come after anyone 528 00:32:18.080 --> 00:32:18.920 in their space, 529 00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:22.280 even if they weren't doing anything with their patent, 530 00:32:22.280 --> 00:32:24.280 just because they're stealing their sales. 531 00:32:24.320 --> 00:32:27.080 And again, the burden of proof is on the person 532 00:32:27.080 --> 00:32:28.920 who's trying to defend themselves at that point. 533 00:32:28.920 --> 00:32:31.160 Like Amazon's siding with the patent owner. 534 00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:34.600 So you want to like make a wide berth 535 00:32:34.600 --> 00:32:37.200 around this patent owner person. 536 00:32:38.080 --> 00:32:40.280 I know that it's probably the concept 537 00:32:40.280 --> 00:32:42.480 and the keyword of it is like the magnetic thing. 538 00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:44.600 But if you, if I were in that situation, 539 00:32:44.600 --> 00:32:47.520 I'd try to avoid the magnetic thing entirely. 540 00:32:47.520 --> 00:32:49.760 And then there's like no real argument there. 541 00:32:49.760 --> 00:32:50.840 Like there's no argument. 542 00:32:50.840 --> 00:32:53.040 Like I'm not even, it's not even magnetic. 543 00:32:53.320 --> 00:32:54.680 I'm doing some other thing, 544 00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:58.040 like some other attachment, some other cool idea. 545 00:32:58.040 --> 00:33:01.800 If that kind of like shoots down the product idea entirely, 546 00:33:01.800 --> 00:33:05.320 maybe if you still want to like hang onto the product, 547 00:33:05.320 --> 00:33:08.680 I'd maybe get an opinion from like an IP attorney, 548 00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:11.120 like an intellectual property person and just say like, 549 00:33:11.120 --> 00:33:14.800 hey, like how risky do you think this is before I do this? 550 00:33:17.040 --> 00:33:18.800 Just to kind of know. 551 00:33:19.760 --> 00:33:22.720 But if you can avoid the magnetic thing entirely, 552 00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:24.240 then I think you'd be safe. 553 00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:26.000 But if that isn't a shoot down the idea, 554 00:33:26.000 --> 00:33:29.520 then you might need to do a little deeper digging on it. 555 00:33:29.520 --> 00:33:31.760 Yeah, I've kind of had the same thoughts 556 00:33:31.760 --> 00:33:34.640 of doing a little bit more digging. 557 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:36.320 It's not like it hasn't been approved. 558 00:33:36.320 --> 00:33:37.880 It honestly was just submitted. 559 00:33:37.880 --> 00:33:42.160 So I know it takes a long time to even figure all that out 560 00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:44.040 for the patent to get approved. 561 00:33:44.040 --> 00:33:46.360 But like currently on Amazon, there are a lot. 562 00:33:46.360 --> 00:33:47.720 It does. 563 00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:49.360 Do they have anything on their listing 564 00:33:49.360 --> 00:33:52.240 that says like patent pending or anything like that? 565 00:33:52.680 --> 00:33:55.280 Not currently, not on Amazon that I've seen. 566 00:33:56.280 --> 00:34:01.080 They are like the only kind of relatively big person 567 00:34:01.080 --> 00:34:03.200 selling this product. 568 00:34:03.200 --> 00:34:05.400 All of the other people on Amazon are just, 569 00:34:05.400 --> 00:34:06.840 it's kind of a new thing. 570 00:34:06.840 --> 00:34:08.800 And so there's people trying, 571 00:34:08.800 --> 00:34:13.480 but there's not like a lot of reviews or there's great sales 572 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.440 but not a lot of reviews on Amazon yet 573 00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:19.679 for most of the people, except for this one company. 574 00:34:19.679 --> 00:34:21.440 Okay, that's probably why they're trying 575 00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:23.239 Right, yeah. 576 00:34:23.239 --> 00:34:24.800 They've seen some success. 577 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:26.080 Yes. 578 00:34:26.080 --> 00:34:27.600 All right, cool. 579 00:34:29.040 --> 00:34:30.880 I'll look more into it for sure. 580 00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:34.480 Yeah, if you weren't digging. 581 00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:37.480 Yeah, I'd reach out to an IP attorney. 582 00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:40.520 You know who you could reach out to? 583 00:34:40.520 --> 00:34:45.520 So Prime Corporate Services has a guy 584 00:34:45.600 --> 00:34:47.760 who I think he's an IP attorney. 585 00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:49.400 Bye Grima. 586 00:34:49.400 --> 00:34:50.920 His name is Frank. 587 00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:54.280 So you could start with Frank 588 00:34:54.280 --> 00:34:57.440 because you can ask him an initial question 589 00:34:57.440 --> 00:34:59.320 and it's not gonna cost you anything. 590 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.400 you at some point when it's going to cost something, 591 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:04.640 but you could probably get some free info out of him. 592 00:35:04.640 --> 00:35:07.640 So especially because like they have a relationship with us. 593 00:35:07.640 --> 00:35:10.920 So it's in their best interest to like make us happy basically. 594 00:35:10.920 --> 00:35:14.480 So you can get more out of him than like just any random person 595 00:35:14.480 --> 00:35:17.520 who isn't affiliated with us. 596 00:35:17.520 --> 00:35:20.600 So check out Frank from Prime Corporate Services. 597 00:35:20.600 --> 00:35:22.120 And he's dropping this in the chat. 598 00:35:22.120 --> 00:35:24.080 Yeah, Lisa says, Frank is great. 599 00:35:24.080 --> 00:35:27.600 He's done a lot of like brand registry trademark stuff, 600 00:35:27.600 --> 00:35:29.280 but he'll know about patents too. 601 00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:31.240 That's like in his wheelhouse. 602 00:35:31.240 --> 00:35:34.600 And then here is the, I'm going to drop the link 603 00:35:34.600 --> 00:35:37.640 for the Fiverr guy. 604 00:35:40.440 --> 00:35:41.680 Fiverr. 605 00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:44.280 I should have done this on my computer. 606 00:35:44.280 --> 00:35:46.160 Then I could have copied it. 607 00:35:46.160 --> 00:35:47.160 I'm just thinking. 608 00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:55.440 R-E-4-I-G, I think that's right. 609 00:35:57.040 --> 00:35:57.880 Check. 610 00:35:58.880 --> 00:36:03.880 S-R-E-4-I-G-5-N, okay, I messed that up just a little bit. 611 00:36:17.160 --> 00:36:19.000 Okay, let me see if this works. 612 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:20.800 I had two fours in here, hold on. 613 00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:33.880 Four, all right, try that link, okay. 614 00:36:34.240 --> 00:36:35.680 I'm really butchering this. 615 00:36:35.680 --> 00:36:37.680 His name is Mark. 616 00:36:38.520 --> 00:36:41.680 That's, you should see if that link works. 617 00:36:43.200 --> 00:36:46.680 I'm trying to see, his prices look like they've gone up, 618 00:36:46.680 --> 00:36:51.560 but I think I did the like, I did like the lowest, 619 00:36:51.560 --> 00:36:53.600 I did the lowest one, honestly. 620 00:36:54.600 --> 00:36:56.840 But, or, you know, even people like him, 621 00:36:56.840 --> 00:36:57.920 you don't have to necessarily use him, 622 00:36:57.920 --> 00:37:00.920 but like, you'll see the keywords that he's using, 623 00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.320 and then you can look up other people. 624 00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:05.840 Because at this point, I'd probably hire someone cheaper. 625 00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:08.960 It looks like he's gone up a bit with all of his sales. 626 00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:10.640 But yeah, you're looking for product sketch, 627 00:37:10.640 --> 00:37:12.280 product designer, basically. 628 00:37:13.400 --> 00:37:15.200 Awesome, thank you so much. 629 00:37:15.200 --> 00:37:16.200 Yeah, no problem. 630 00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:19.000 All righty. 631 00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:23.800 Okay, what other questions do we have? 632 00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:28.400 Anything else we wanna go over today? 633 00:37:35.640 --> 00:37:38.040 You guys just mostly hanging out and listening? 634 00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:42.720 Lisa's, Lisa squared, team Lisa's on the call. 635 00:37:42.720 --> 00:37:47.720 Lisa's on the call, Lisa's on the call, Lisa's on the call. 636 00:37:48.720 --> 00:37:52.320 All right, well, if there's no other questions, 637 00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:54.480 I'm gonna wrap up early 638 00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:58.720 and get to a couple of questions in my email here. 639 00:37:59.560 --> 00:38:02.240 So last chance, any other questions? 640 00:38:02.240 --> 00:38:03.720 Anyone wants to go over? 641 00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:10.800 Okay, tomorrow, UCLides will be on 9 a.m. 642 00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:12.960 And then Thursday, Stephen will be on 9 a.m. 643 00:38:12.960 --> 00:38:14.520 So if you have more questions, 644 00:38:14.520 --> 00:38:16.280 you wanna go over to UCLides, 645 00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:19.120 if you have more questions, you wanna come back. 646 00:38:20.040 --> 00:38:24.320 UCLides is especially great at marketing, advertising. 647 00:38:24.320 --> 00:38:26.240 So come back for questions about that. 648 00:38:26.240 --> 00:38:28.440 And Stephen will answer anything, 649 00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:31.640 but he loves talking about AI these days, especially. 650 00:38:31.640 --> 00:38:34.600 So if you wanna geek out on AI stuff, 651 00:38:34.600 --> 00:38:36.240 go hang out with him on Thursday. 652 00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:40.560 Other than that, I will see you guys next week. 653 00:38:40.560 --> 00:38:42.440 All right, have a good week, everyone.