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I'm just kidding.

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No, I'm not.

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I'm just kidding.

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And in summary, that's how you can make another 20%.

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OK, let's move on to the next thing.

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That's how his recording can start.

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Yeah, I really appreciate it.

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Thank you for the first half, Junauda.

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But yeah, so we can go through like,

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we put like a prep for prod skill in there,

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which was a great one.

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So like, not in here, but I think

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it's in two other projects I'm working on.

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If we go to, I think it's a Novo.

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Just jump over here to the dashboard.

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We have, I could probably, this is very much specific

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to the project we have.

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But under Claude, gosh, Chris and Macy just

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keep coming in and out.

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I'll make sure you guys don't get, OK, skills, prep for prod.

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And so you could use this as a starting point.

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But it basically goes through and like,

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checks file size on stuff.

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Like, it does code cleanup.

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Checks the role-based access.

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Like, hey, did I make sure like, I

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didn't give certain people access to stuff

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they're not supposed to have.

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And I just run that skill right before I commit

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or right before I merge.

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And it doesn't need kind of like, hacks to it.

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And so as I get better at it, I pass it.

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And the way you set this up is like, I just gave it

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this, I typically copy this entire skill,

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paste it into Claude, and be like, hey,

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customize this for the current project you're in.

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And just like, let it figure out like, oh, this

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is a Flutter project, not a JavaScript.

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Like, it just kind of figures it out.

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And it looks for like, best practices and stuff.

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And that way, at least it's got like,

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a little bit of a harness to when like, things come in,

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they do the skill, and then they go through that.

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And if something gets through, then we

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can tweak the skill, obviously.

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But that way, if like, we're all tweaking it,

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let's say for Tribe, and Lucien finds it like,

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a new thing we want to check for, or like, hey,

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make sure the tests are written this way.

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And I just run the skill.

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I don't even know what he put in there last week.

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I just run it.

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And all of a sudden, like, now it's catching stuff, you know.

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There is that kind of, yeah, off the recording,

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I brought the idea of like, a shared company VPS runtime.

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And kind of, and maybe like, we all just like,

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we're developing on our machine and figuring out.

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And like, this skill thing, like shared company skill,

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and we're all like, tweaking your shared company,

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it's kind of coming back to like,

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we're building the assembly line.

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It's like, it's a bit like, blurry.

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Like, we each work in our own runtime,

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but like, we use the company skills.

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Then why not just put it like, on the like, rails,

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and like, let it be in the runtime and with the skills.

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And like, we're just tweaking the assembly line.

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Like, we're not like, worried too much about the code.

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Like, a little bit still, but folks could be more like,

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we're developing skills now.

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We're like, developing the skills and pipeline of Tribe

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and another assembly line for like, Tribe Mobile.

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So, something to consider.

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Yeah, that's great.

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I think that's smart.

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But those are things just to, like,

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I think having a client comms, I saw you sent me this,

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we should definitely push this.

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Yeah, that's easy lift.

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We don't hear you anymore.

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Cool.

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Yes, we could put this into a skill.

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It should be pretty easy.

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But it's like, because I think what I'm trying to say is

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like, okay, we know all the pieces now, all the ingredients.

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Now we need to kind of like, systematize it a little better

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and get really good at just like, okay, it's this,

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it's this, it's this.

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Okay, now it's this.

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And we get into the routine.

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Like, as soon as it feels like,

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oh, I'm starting this project and I didn't make

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the task grid or I'm actually kicking off a project

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and I didn't even like, message the clients, right?

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Like, these are things that we should be so in the habit

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of like, oh, I'm starting to work

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or I just got something really cool working.

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It's always fun to like, share with each other.

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like, oh, we got this thing working.

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Like, we're just constantly giving updates.

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And I just got off like, a call.

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One of my friends here in Franklin is like,

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building an app that's like, a AI inventor app

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that does NDAs and like, you can like, create a thing.

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It's this massive, massive platform.

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And they have some developer team in like, Croatia.

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through like, the biggest Figma file you've ever seen.

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It just was like, one wireframe after the other

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of like, this entire process.

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I mean, it's like, it's probably like, a year's worth

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of work.

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of like, as extensive as like, an X tech

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or just something pretty massive.

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Um, and just so many different modules, so many different pieces.

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And I was just like, man, I, I, this is, this is like how we used to build software

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like 10 years ago.

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Like there's just one guy, like, here's my designs.

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Like, and it's like, he's just walking through it, like one thing after the

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other.

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And I was just like, Hey, can we like dig into that one screen?

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Like there's probably like 50 rabbit holes that you just like threw in that one

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screen that no one is talking about.

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and that thing.

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really quick in mobile.

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And then he's like, well, I can show you the desktop too.

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And he'd like done the whole thing again for desktop.

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And I was like, oh gosh, like this is insane.

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Um, and so all that to say, like, I think our process has massively improved.

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Um, uh, so I just think like what, one of those things is make keeping it very

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relational and everything everybody does is like Lucian does this phenomenal job

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with Godline bars.

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Ira, like everybody, like Veritas, uh, loves Ira more than any of us.

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Um, and he can do no wrong.

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Um, and same with Lucian and Godline bars.

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So you guys have like, we've got really good relationships, I think with, with

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the, with each of these teams and a high level of trust.

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So I think just keeping that, this is not like we're doing it all wrong.

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Let's start doing it right.

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I just want to like, I kind of want to be able to like highlight that like, oh, you

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guys are actually are doing that very well in this area, but then maybe like,

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okay, where else could we be improving?

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Like maybe this and this piece, um, and not to like weigh you down, but like to

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be able to go a little bit faster.

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So if we know like project checklist, we're just ripping through like each of

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the pieces that have to happen.

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Um, we can actually go a lot faster and know that we're not going to miss

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Um, but I know like what also what I can see, I want to put a little bit of

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protection because I think like Ira, a good example, uh, I forget the names of

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which, which one it was.

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The, the, um, the four, the three week or four week project you did, but like

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actually it turned into like five weeks.

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Uh, yeah, it was a, it was a project that we said was four weeks, but I don't know

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why I decided to tell him it was three weeks and then took so many like changes

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back and forth.

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I'm hitting it like five weeks.

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But like, so like, that's great that you just like took it and made it work, but

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like one, there was more work that was actually, there's more delivered than what

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we promised originally.

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And whether we like knew the work was in there or not, like that's like a shaping

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We didn't, and we, and this is the one I think Luch and you were involved with.

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Oh, this is, yeah.

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You helped me shape it when Ira was out.

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Um, when we got in the conference room and we like did like that mass, that first

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iteration of like all of the, um, sending a request for DBQ, things coming back,

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providers doing stuff.

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We went through like a two hour thing in person with, with Corbett, but that was

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like one of the, one of the shaping sessions.

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Um, but yeah, there was so much more.

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And I think a lot of it could have happened with like you and Autumn or Autumn

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sort of testing a feature and being like, oh yeah, but this doesn't exist.

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And then you were like, I don't even know we had to solve for that thing.

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Like, you know, like, and so trying to one, we can like put some guardrails where

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like, oh, I feel like the scope's actually increasing.

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We need to like, kind of come back and ask for more weeks.

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Um, but also what's, what's actually happening there is you're just working so

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efficiently and so fast that you're like, I'll just throw this extra thing in there

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and they just get more.

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The clients win, you know, this is great.

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Ira's amazing.

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And I was like doing five weeks of work and getting paid for four.

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where we bump everything up a little bit, cause you're still delivered it.

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It's awesome.

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But like, like, I mean, and then I had to make the video, why they asked me to do the

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video?

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I know, like, I could have, I would have happily made it, but you know, well, it's

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I don't know if they, I don't know what they wanted.

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Um, but Corbyn was very like insisting on me, you know, being the one to like go

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And I tried to make it short and simple, but I had to go through it in a lot of

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And the more I was going through this and maybe Lucian just for a good old, uh, good

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time when you're, you know, having some tea or something you can go through and just

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Cause it's, it is a beast of a, um, and the more I was clicking through this and the

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amount of iterations and like edge case things that could pop up, I was like, this

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isn't like I tech, I messaged Ira.

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I was like, this thing is insane that you built.

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Like, there's just so many little edge cases every time, like a new little, you

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know, dropdown would open.

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you know, implications anyway.

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Um, it's amazing that you delivered it.

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Um, and I think, uh, so I just want to make sure like, Hey, that was like a, we

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deliver something insane.

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Like there's a massive thing.

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Like we should have something and we can still do some of this like retroactively.

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I'm not against that.

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But I was like, we just need to get a better system in place.

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So we're not just like grinding

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and just like getting through the weeks.

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We can actually pick up speed.

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But also I think having a little bit of a,

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like a retroact, like a, what was it called?

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Not a retroactive meeting?

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It's like, yeah.

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To like just look back and just have this thing.

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You're like, oh yeah, it was four weeks,

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but it turned into five.

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Like kind of go back and see why it did.

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And we kind of all knew it was a big project.

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Like when we were staring at it,

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we just sort of known like this feels big.

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We should have been like, let's just make it bigger budget.

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Like it's not, it's kind of hard.

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Cause we were like, oh, we could squeeze it into four weeks

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and make it nicely fit into March, you know?

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But like maybe it is a fifth week

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or maybe it's two projects.

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We did at least pull the AI fields out.

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I think two or three shaping sessions in,

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we pulled that whole AI thing out.

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So good job for everybody to identify that.

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And we like kind of found there's like,

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this is actually a complex little piece here.

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Let's like pull this out and do this.

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And is that a two week now?

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Oh, it's a four week.

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That's a four week.

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Yeah, there was, because well, so it's-

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I was like, yeah, it's a six week.

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I thought it was one, now it's six.

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It's three weeks of work,

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but I know there's going to be this like iteration loop

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with Autumn and I just want to plug in for that

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instead of getting into a situation where I'm working.

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Yeah, that's good.

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And like, we will work stuff out.

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I think even Corbett was like,

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Corbett said something like,

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oh wow, like four weeks or something like in your comments.

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And that was great.

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Like you, we finished the framing,

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you sent him like a screenshot, like all that was great.

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For some reason,

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I just simply cannot get Corbett into the dashboard.

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Like I have these, I have this super slick magic link thing

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where it like sends an email.

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You click approve, it's on the screen, pop-ups open.

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All you do is hit the approve button.

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It says like, Corbett has approved.

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And he's like, he sends me like some random thing.

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It's like, user data doesn't exist

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or something I've never seen before.

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And I was like, I'm on like my fourth attempt

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to get him to use the dashboard,

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but you sent the screenshot, so problem solved.

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Yeah.

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And he just needed to, and he, you know,

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he was like, oh wow, like four weeks.

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But I can, like they typically buy three

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and they get an extra,

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like we typically give them an extra week for free.

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So that's like an easy thing from their side, it's free.

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So yeah, I think, I just want to keep it moving.

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I'm trying to not be in every project as well,

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but I think the more you guys can do,

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I like, I even, Lance is around again.

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He's helping a little bit with some biz dev stuff.

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And he's like, cool.

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Like, let me know if I can jump in on a project.

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And I was like, it's kind of awkward to like be like,

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you know, now introduce a person to Veritas

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or to God Behind Bars.

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It's like, we already have like a pretty good thing

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going with these clients.

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So, and I, so he's going to just be around

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to help with like making sure,

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we have some big stuff coming for ProForm

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and with Pando Media that could potentially be really big.

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So we're trying to make sure we get prepped for that.

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But I was like, I'd rather like, instead of having,

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I don't think, what I don't think works

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is having like a second person leading the project.

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Because you guys really like own that project.

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And we're doing that really well, I think.

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To have like another person in there

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who's like trying to project manage stuff,

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I'd add that.

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It sounds like, it sounds good,

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but I'd rather have AI project manage it, honestly.

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And you guys direct AI than to like have a person.

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Because I think we just drop stuff

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between the handoff of two people.

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So, and I think that'd be true,

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even if like Lucian and I were working on the same project.

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It just makes it more complicated to figure out like,

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oh, I thought you were doing this.

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I thought you were doing that.

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And then things get lost, so.

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Anyway, those are all things I had on my mind

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to talk with you guys about, but.

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And the thing you're talking about is like the like comms

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and like going over the schedule

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that were things that we could improve on,

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or that like, if we do like these three things,

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we get like the 20%, like I understood

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that it's like kind of like in a more consistent comms

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and, you know, staying on the schedule,

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or is there anything more there?

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Yeah, so I think, so I think, you know,

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it would be, this would be something

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we could even frame potentially,

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like everything's a frame now.

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Like there's some problems, we're trying to get an outcome,

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like where you guys like win with us,

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because it's not just better for you if we do this.

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Obviously the client, the clients actually,

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the clients are very happy right now.

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So there's no one, no one's like, let me just say that,

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because like no one's like, hey, we were late on something,

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or we went over on something,

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or I didn't feel like we did a good job on comms.

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I'm just trying to think.

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Think of it as we think about scale and adding more clients or more projects or more bandwidth to this.

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How can we have a system?

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So because going late isn't a problem with the client.

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In fact, they don't care. I don't really mind.

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But it actually does eat into, let's say, and they're all for good reasons.

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So I'll pick on the AI moderation stuff because we like when a group integration went over.

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But this was like one of the coolest, biggest things we've ever done with Tribe.

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So it was like, to me, worth it, right?

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Like, I'm not worried about it and the clients are fine.

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So I think, but then like now your first half of April is like pretty much eaten up with something we sold in March.

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So now we're trying to like, well, how else can we fill that time?

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So I feel like there is enough work to go around to where we could fill enough time.

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But then it just sort of pushes things down and then it kind of has like a waterfall effect that kicks other things down.

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If we had had like a full month and maybe part of it is we don't have a full month booked for you for April.

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So like it was like, we'll just push this thing out from March to April.

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Wasn't a big deal.

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But like, luckily we didn't, we had the flexibility to just like push it into April and it didn't affect any other projects.

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So trying to think of like how we do that.

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And also I think in general, it's just having more margin.

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Like the first time we told them the dates, we should have been like, it's going to be sometime middle of April.

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And then if we like get to it earlier, just like surprise them with like, you know, that's it's those types of things.

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It's not like really, you know, Lucian really like stick to your deadlines.

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Like, it's not that it's like, let's just, Hey, let's just be smart about it because we have a bunch of stuff going on.

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And also some wildcard stuff.

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Like you're doing, I was in the Veritas, the AI stuff, and you already thought it was three.

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We're throwing in a fourth week.

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It could probably go, go more if it, you know, who knows?

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We don't know.

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It's just a lot of unknowns.

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So like, let's not like add another project or two to, um, to, to April for him.

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Um, and, and if you have like, you already do have, uh, AI fields and then potentially the like plan stuff as well.

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They also want that at some point.

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So I don't know if we get to that in April or what you're thinking, but we can talk about it.

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Um,

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One thing I was thinking is you also mentioned, uh, guardrails and one of the ways in which the guard, you mentioned, you know, getting these requests from

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autumn.

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And I think right, since we have the technology for it, we could make a Slack integration or something like that, that just monitors the, the client

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channels for requests.

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And when it gets a request, it can compare it to the project and, and determine, Hey, does this fit within the scope?

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Or is this scope increase is the process of me doing that takes time, you know, of like, Hey, let me like digest what they said.

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Let me look at the, the notion document again and figure out is the scope increase, or maybe it's not, or, you know, I'm not running on all

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cylinders at all the time.

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So maybe I overlook it and it's only two hours, but I am neglecting the fact that I did this like five times and, you know, uh, but yeah, I think

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if, if, if that process could be automated in that way, it can, it can, it's just, it's a bit depersonalized.

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So it, we can just communicate to the client, Hey, we have five new requests that, you know, are, have increased the scope to another week.

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And maybe they just actually, Hey, we actually want to give this to Nick instead, you know, because we don't want to do the COVID or, or

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whatever, or maybe they decide they want to purchase the extra week.

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But, um, I think we have the technology to, to, um, manage the scope increase and maybe automate some guardrails.

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I think that's kind of, it's a good, yes.

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Guardrails for sure.

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But like, this is something, and maybe, and I told Lance as well, like as he, he, or I are like in projects, I'm not, I'm not interested in me or

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him getting that, like, I want to make sure like you guys are getting like the benefit of his three decades of like doing this project

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management stuff, but like immediately when you're like, Oh, it's, we thought it was five.

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And now there's like a seventh, you know, or eighth thing that's come in, like immediately, like kind of being able to pull that and being like, Hey,

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there's these three things and kind of surfacing it to Corbett and kind of saying, Hey, budget was this, we've got these new things.

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I think I can squeeze two of them in, but like this other one is like crazy.

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You know, it's going to take another week just to do that, whatever.

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Sometimes that's hard and it can feel a little bit like we're nickel and diming them.

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But I think what is actually happening is our system is very efficient and it's so fast to just like throw one more thing in that it's like, Oh, that's just a

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couple of prompts.

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That's like one work session.

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We could knock out that other thing.

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So it just kind of gets absorbed into the project.

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So like.

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But then like, you're just doing more and more, like the same amount, that's like not

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as sustainable either.

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And I was just going to show you what I think does work and what these calls have really

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been the last few weeks is just like, hey, here's what I'm doing, here's what Jannat

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is doing, doing some stuff.

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Claude has a great Slack integration.

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This is actually on Perplexity, which is kind of like the open claw version, but I prompted

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it with like, hey, what are some important Slack messages I should be aware of?

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And then it came back to me with a pretty useful little thing here, like, hey, Autumn

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is waiting for this video with a link right there to the chat.

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Jannat has sent three DMs, he needs to like figure something out here.

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There's high stakes, like I surfaced this thing, like, you know, and it's kind of like

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summarized there, it said like, though the post call vibe was, could have been an email,

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but the third party, like, it was pretty funny, like how it summarized it a little

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bit.

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Like you just have it, like, use your computer and look at your Slack.

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So this one, you actually have a connector, but if you already are buying Claude, same

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thing, just don't, just like connectors, Slack.

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Now what's crazy about Slack is that Slack and Claude is pretty cool.

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And you can see all the permissions you have here.

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You can let it search things, or you can ask for approval.

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Like you don't want it sending stuff on your behalf, like ask for approval.

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I'm just like YOLO on the Slack.

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I got to add some stuff because I played with it.

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There's a bunch of like caveats.

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First of all, it's like across your whole like Claude account, you know, so it's not

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per workspace.

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So if you're like working in inside of another workspace that you have, like another Slack

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account, you want to connect to, it's like, just like everything Claude is going to be

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using this.

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If you use the connector.

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Okay.

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The other thing is like, if you use YOLO mode, these actually don't apply.

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Like it's going to like bypass everything and send to the channels directly if it thinks

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it should send.

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And you said ask permissions or you said deny also, it's still going to send.

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Yeah.

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I haven't tested this.

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Got it.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Yes.

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So it depends on how you're using it.

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Test it.

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Like you can send each other DMs or, you know, one thing you can do as well, which is kind

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of cool is you can have it write a draft for a message.

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So it's cool.

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It like sketches it out and puts it in your input field of Slack formatted or whatever.

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And then you can open it in Slack and just like tweak it and hit send.

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Try that as well.

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I don't know if you've tried that.

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I have on occasion seen it do a draft when I actually wanted to send.

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So I took Slack off of my phone for a quality of life upgrade.

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You can do that too.

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But my only thing, and I don't mind people like being inaccessible, just have one way

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on the rare occasion that if we do need something, so Macy knows she can like text me if she

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sees something crazy.

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My phone number is in Slack anyway, so you guys can all text me in like worst case scenario,

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something's gone down.

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But I sent, I went to Claude on my phone and I was like, Hey, send Macy a message with

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like this, this, this.

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And I could have sent some of you guys messages like that where I'm out for a walk or something.

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And I still want to just throw something to you guys.

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00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:28.080
But it's nice because it's all one way.

476
00:23:28.080 --> 00:23:30.000
Like I can't see if you responded.

477
00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:31.880
It's very, it's a very calm way.

478
00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:33.040
It's kind of like sending an email.

479
00:23:33.040 --> 00:23:36.760
It's just like you just send it into the abyss and you don't get that immediate dopamine

480
00:23:36.760 --> 00:23:39.960
hit of like someone liking it or responding.

481
00:23:39.960 --> 00:23:45.160
So it's actually kind of a cool, calmer way to like, it's just like putting the message

482
00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:48.800
out there and then just not seeing the response and then I'll come in a few hours and check

483
00:23:48.800 --> 00:23:50.320
it and see what you said back.

484
00:23:50.320 --> 00:23:58.840
But yeah, that's, I was just showing you that, Ira, like perplexity, like I'm very impressed

485
00:23:58.840 --> 00:23:59.840
with perplexity.

486
00:23:59.840 --> 00:24:01.000
It's kind of the sweet spot.

487
00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:07.440
I know we've gone in all these circles of like open claw, paperclip, my paperclip totally

488
00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:13.160
had a meltdown over the weekend and I'm still, still not been able to revive it.

489
00:24:13.160 --> 00:24:16.560
So yeah, you end up paying with time or money.

490
00:24:16.560 --> 00:24:20.080
So like this one's been like the type of tasks.

491
00:24:20.080 --> 00:24:25.880
So I also, I had a, if you guys remember Z who did the training with us when you guys

492
00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:31.440
were here, I helped him set up, he was like, Oh, show me, show me like paperclip.

493
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:33.000
Like I was talking to him about it.

494
00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:34.200
Like I talked to everybody about stuff.

495
00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:36.480
He's like, he's like, I got, I can buy you coffee.

496
00:24:36.480 --> 00:24:37.640
Like sit down, show me this thing.

497
00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:38.640
Like I got to figure this out.

498
00:24:38.640 --> 00:24:39.920
Like as a, as a business owner.

499
00:24:39.920 --> 00:24:42.800
And I was like, there's no way I'm sitting on paperclip for him.

500
00:24:42.800 --> 00:24:47.360
Like this is, I'm just like going to be a, his tech support now moving forward.

501
00:24:47.360 --> 00:24:50.360
So we set up perplexity, it's 20 bucks a month.

502
00:24:50.360 --> 00:24:57.680
And he like, he like totally rebuilt his website in like a pretty sick website that he came

503
00:24:57.680 --> 00:24:58.960
up with.

504
00:24:58.960 --> 00:25:00.000
His website was terrible.

505
00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:03.200
like he had spent thousands of dollars getting it built

506
00:25:03.200 --> 00:25:04.400
and he's been trying to change it

507
00:25:04.400 --> 00:25:06.000
and he's trying to like hire this guy in Fiverr

508
00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:06.840
to change something.

509
00:25:06.840 --> 00:25:07.840
It's all in Squarespace.

510
00:25:07.840 --> 00:25:08.680
He never did.

511
00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:12.220
And he like, basically like vibe coded this in perplexity.

512
00:25:12.220 --> 00:25:13.640
And he's like, cool, I got it finished.

513
00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:14.640
Like, what do I do with it?

514
00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:17.300
I was like, I was like, stop, why are you asking me

515
00:25:17.300 --> 00:25:19.800
like what to do, like ask it what to do.

516
00:25:19.800 --> 00:25:21.160
And he was like, he's like, it's saying

517
00:25:21.160 --> 00:25:22.440
I need to set up a GitHub account.

518
00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:24.480
I was like, do it, like go set up a GitHub account.

519
00:25:24.480 --> 00:25:25.880
It's free.

520
00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:27.320
And I was like, they're like,

521
00:25:27.320 --> 00:25:30.760
it's telling me to set up a Netifly account.

522
00:25:30.760 --> 00:25:31.880
I was like, well, use Vercel.

523
00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:34.200
Like that one's free and I know it really well.

524
00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:36.520
And I left him for like two hours

525
00:25:36.520 --> 00:25:37.600
and then he like texted me the link.

526
00:25:37.600 --> 00:25:38.520
He's like, it's live.

527
00:25:38.520 --> 00:25:42.400
And I was like, I mean, this guy's not technical at all.

528
00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:44.660
Like I showed him chat GPT initially.

529
00:25:44.660 --> 00:25:47.040
I've showed him all the tech stuff.

530
00:25:47.040 --> 00:25:49.800
And he like basically built a website,

531
00:25:49.800 --> 00:25:52.960
got a GitHub account, hooked the GitHub to Vercel.

532
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:55.200
And now he's just, when he wants to make a change,

533
00:25:55.280 --> 00:25:57.320
he just comes in here and like prompts it.

534
00:25:57.320 --> 00:25:58.840
Like, hey, I'm launching a new product.

535
00:25:58.840 --> 00:26:00.000
This is my new pricing.

536
00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:00.840
Boom, boom, boom.

537
00:26:00.840 --> 00:26:03.680
It like fills it all out, publishes to the web.

538
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:05.240
And he's like, and then, you know, he's prompted it.

539
00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:07.640
And he's like, hey, fix my SEO.

540
00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:10.360
Just like fixes SEO behind the scenes.

541
00:26:11.320 --> 00:26:13.400
And it does things like I had it pull,

542
00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:17.720
like I was like, I told it a little thing like,

543
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:19.080
hey, go and grab the transcript

544
00:26:19.080 --> 00:26:21.400
from the latest live stream that we did here.

545
00:26:21.400 --> 00:26:24.160
And like help me write some posts for it

546
00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:25.600
that could go out on X.

547
00:26:25.600 --> 00:26:27.360
So it went and like did a bunch of stuff

548
00:26:27.360 --> 00:26:29.080
and then came back with like the key topics

549
00:26:29.080 --> 00:26:30.440
that were covered.

550
00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:32.840
It grabbed the text, you know, stuff.

551
00:26:32.840 --> 00:26:34.280
So just sort of like figure stuff out

552
00:26:34.280 --> 00:26:36.920
and goes out to the internet and does various things.

553
00:26:38.360 --> 00:26:41.840
And yeah, I think that's pretty useful.

554
00:26:41.840 --> 00:26:42.880
I connected zero.

555
00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:44.720
So it's like all my accounting's in here.

556
00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:46.880
You can connect your health app, like from Apple.

557
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:49.920
You can connect Superbase directly, Vercel.

558
00:26:49.920 --> 00:26:53.260
I mean, it's insane like how much is just like one click

559
00:26:53.260 --> 00:26:55.620
away from being set up.

560
00:26:55.620 --> 00:26:56.940
So this is like the easy mode.

561
00:26:56.940 --> 00:27:01.140
If I'm introducing someone to like sort of the agentic,

562
00:27:01.140 --> 00:27:05.620
like automated sort of tools, like an open claw,

563
00:27:05.620 --> 00:27:07.420
this is great to start.

564
00:27:07.420 --> 00:27:09.700
It's still using Sonnet.

565
00:27:09.700 --> 00:27:13.340
It's still using Opus, like in the backend.

566
00:27:13.340 --> 00:27:14.980
This is, it is expensive though.

567
00:27:14.980 --> 00:27:17.340
Like this is, you just rip through.

568
00:27:18.620 --> 00:27:19.460
Oh, sorry.

569
00:27:19.460 --> 00:27:22.180
My cat just tried to swipe my baby.

570
00:27:24.140 --> 00:27:26.100
That was so, so fast.

571
00:27:26.100 --> 00:27:26.940
Sorry.

572
00:27:26.940 --> 00:27:28.540
No, you're good.

573
00:27:28.540 --> 00:27:29.900
I would have done the same.

574
00:27:32.100 --> 00:27:33.500
But you can see like how fast it,

575
00:27:33.500 --> 00:27:36.500
you only get 4,000 credits for the month.

576
00:27:36.500 --> 00:27:40.140
And this, this like, I only have 165 left

577
00:27:40.140 --> 00:27:41.380
and I only use it for two days.

578
00:27:41.380 --> 00:27:46.260
So you can bump to like the $200 a month plan,

579
00:27:46.260 --> 00:27:51.260
but still, anyway, so it's more expensive basically.

580
00:27:52.260 --> 00:27:53.860
And you can see how many tokens,

581
00:27:53.860 --> 00:27:55.620
like what they call credits.

582
00:27:55.620 --> 00:27:57.260
I don't know how this translates to tokens,

583
00:27:57.260 --> 00:28:01.580
but you kind of, you pay the price for it to be in easy mode.

584
00:28:01.580 --> 00:28:06.580
So anyway, they do have something different.

585
00:28:07.140 --> 00:28:08.260
They have a thing called spaces.

586
00:28:08.260 --> 00:28:10.980
So you can have like specific,

587
00:28:11.940 --> 00:28:13.620
like something that's more private.

588
00:28:13.620 --> 00:28:16.540
I don't know how this would affect what you're doing,

589
00:28:16.540 --> 00:28:18.700
but I think you're saying on the Slack workspaces,

590
00:28:19.580 --> 00:28:21.500
it's access to all Slack.

591
00:28:22.900 --> 00:28:23.740
Is that what you're saying?

592
00:28:23.740 --> 00:28:24.580
Yeah.

593
00:28:24.580 --> 00:28:28.980
So, but we'll like, we'll keep tweaking the tools.

594
00:28:28.980 --> 00:28:30.220
I think what I'm trying to say is like,

595
00:28:30.220 --> 00:28:31.540
we're close enough where like,

596
00:28:31.540 --> 00:28:34.620
with just a little bit of like processing refinement,

597
00:28:34.620 --> 00:28:36.100
we can all just have these little like,

598
00:28:36.100 --> 00:28:38.020
oh, let's do a client update in my day,

599
00:28:38.020 --> 00:28:40.340
or let's do a client update before the meeting

600
00:28:41.300 --> 00:28:44.220
and get into some like, just making it super easy.

601
00:28:44.220 --> 00:28:46.940
Cause part of the thing is like, if we have an update,

602
00:28:46.980 --> 00:28:48.580
like we're doing a call this afternoon

603
00:28:48.580 --> 00:28:51.300
with a new client that Greg is working on.

604
00:28:51.300 --> 00:28:53.500
And last night he sent me like a full demo

605
00:28:53.500 --> 00:28:54.820
of like the whole feature working.

606
00:28:54.820 --> 00:28:56.100
And then I was like, great,

607
00:28:56.100 --> 00:28:59.020
can you send that to them this morning in a loom?

608
00:28:59.020 --> 00:29:00.740
And so like, they're going to see it this morning.

609
00:29:00.740 --> 00:29:02.820
They've already like thought about it, talked about it.

610
00:29:02.820 --> 00:29:03.940
Now we're going to get on the call

611
00:29:03.940 --> 00:29:06.180
and just talk like review some feedback

612
00:29:06.180 --> 00:29:07.580
and then talk about the next project.

613
00:29:07.580 --> 00:29:10.340
So we've kind of, we've made it so much less stressful

614
00:29:10.340 --> 00:29:12.900
for me and for him, to be honest,

615
00:29:12.900 --> 00:29:15.220
where he's going to basically come in as the hero,

616
00:29:15.220 --> 00:29:17.940
like delivering something early.

617
00:29:19.260 --> 00:29:22.180
So anyway, I think if we can get some of these things

618
00:29:22.180 --> 00:29:24.500
working again, all this stuff is working pretty well.

619
00:29:24.500 --> 00:29:25.820
I just want to like,

620
00:29:25.820 --> 00:29:28.620
like I think we can put like a little edge to it

621
00:29:28.620 --> 00:29:30.300
with all the AI stuff.

622
00:29:30.300 --> 00:29:32.420
And then you guys can figure out whatever tools

623
00:29:32.420 --> 00:29:34.660
you want to use to get there, right?

624
00:29:34.660 --> 00:29:36.500
It doesn't have to be,

625
00:29:36.500 --> 00:29:37.700
I don't know if we're going to necessarily build it

626
00:29:37.700 --> 00:29:40.260
all into the dashboard yet.

627
00:29:41.620 --> 00:29:43.140
I don't think we're quite there yet.

628
00:29:43.140 --> 00:29:46.220
Like where there's one bot that's like reading updates

629
00:29:46.220 --> 00:29:48.580
and just taking stuff and like sending it to the client.

630
00:29:48.580 --> 00:29:50.780
I don't think that's going to happen just yet.

631
00:29:50.780 --> 00:29:53.140
We're keeping the human very much in the loop

632
00:29:53.140 --> 00:29:55.220
on all that stuff in the meantime.

633
00:29:55.220 --> 00:29:58.500
So we just like keep adding like skills instead of,

634
00:29:58.500 --> 00:30:00.100
cause I have like my own skills.

635
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:02.520
just I don't feel like like production ready. So we just

636
00:30:02.520 --> 00:30:07.040
like, keep committing skills and like, update the committed

637
00:30:07.040 --> 00:30:11.200
skills and use those as we go. I'd be like, yeah, energy,

638
00:30:11.560 --> 00:30:14.640
however, you want to do it. I mean, I'd love I think it'd be

639
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:20.720
smart to share, share stuff. Like, if something's working, I

640
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:22.080
asked, like, what?

641
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:26.320
Jonathan was using one recently that was working really great

642
00:30:26.320 --> 00:30:29.920
for comms. He says he was just using the case GPT. But I don't

643
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:32.880
believe him. I think he's got his own fancy skills for his

644
00:30:32.920 --> 00:30:36.640
comm updates. But yeah, something like that, where we

645
00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:40.400
can, there's some general ones, right, that are like, framing,

646
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:44.680
shaping, client updates, that kind of thing. But it'd be

647
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:47.560
great if you could import the skill for like client updates,

648
00:30:47.560 --> 00:30:51.960
and I'll keep them in the repo. So like, I ran your Veritas repo

649
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:56.120
just have the skills. And one of those is called like a VR client

650
00:30:56.120 --> 00:30:59.840
update skill. And it you can program it knows that it's

651
00:30:59.840 --> 00:31:02.040
Corbett, and it's autumn. And it's like, these are the roles

652
00:31:02.040 --> 00:31:06.160
is who's who and like, we know that knows we're meeting every

653
00:31:06.160 --> 00:31:09.360
Tuesday. So whatever, it can like, be a little bit smarter,

654
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:13.240
like you can kind of customize it. But I've been really

655
00:31:13.240 --> 00:31:18.960
reliant on these, these skills with Claude, to where it does

656
00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.840
create a little bit more confidence just to like, and

657
00:31:21.840 --> 00:31:24.680
it's so easy, like to just like, I'm doing a bunch of stuff. And

658
00:31:24.680 --> 00:31:27.680
then I wanted to write a blog post or something with a new

659
00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:33.440
feature, or if we wanted to send an update, the other thing, if

660
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:36.720
you have things in tasks, so if you're using the MCP stuff, and

661
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:40.080
you're pushing stuff into tasks, and then like, here's my task, I

662
00:31:40.080 --> 00:31:42.400
bring it in, I work on it, and it updates the comments and

663
00:31:42.400 --> 00:31:45.600
stuff. And then you have a project, you can just highlight

664
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:50.120
four different notion links. And you can give that to your at

665
00:31:50.120 --> 00:31:52.840
whichever AI bot, and it will all say, hey, summarize these

666
00:31:52.840 --> 00:31:56.160
like four tasks for me for a client update, and then it will

667
00:31:56.160 --> 00:32:00.440
go and read all the like context of those four projects, those

668
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:03.640
four tasks, that you could use the task grid for that, or you

669
00:32:03.640 --> 00:32:07.800
could use the the task in notion. So that's what I've

670
00:32:07.800 --> 00:32:10.600
been, when I've been doing detailed work, I typically have

671
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:13.800
it set up the project, and then I use a project, then I'll have

672
00:32:13.800 --> 00:32:16.520
it put tasks. And that way, I can kind of visually see the

673
00:32:16.520 --> 00:32:21.800
Kanban board, but then sort of moving through the pipeline. And

674
00:32:21.800 --> 00:32:25.120
then I'll just select them all, copy the links, and then paste

675
00:32:25.120 --> 00:32:29.800
the links to cloud code, and it will use the MCP as far as, as

676
00:32:29.800 --> 00:32:34.040
you know, because you know, the Innovo dashboard, MCP, the best,

677
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:39.320
could we make a skill that just tells it like, a get like

678
00:32:39.320 --> 00:32:43.880
today's updates of the task grid, and today's updates of

679
00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:50.480
the tasks, and the GitHub recent activity, the dashboard, MCP

680
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.000
expose those little properties?

681
00:32:53.080 --> 00:32:56.640
It's just so the MCP is just API endpoints. So we could create a

682
00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:01.520
MCP API that just says like recent progress or recent

683
00:33:01.520 --> 00:33:04.720
activity. And it could be like, oh, like Luchin closed this

684
00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:10.360
task, Bruce did this, this comment got left. That'd probably

685
00:33:10.360 --> 00:33:11.120
be the easiest.

686
00:33:11.640 --> 00:33:15.640
And you can do like, you know, variable, like, that could be a

687
00:33:15.640 --> 00:33:19.120
query param, like, because the whole like last week, you've

688
00:33:19.120 --> 00:33:25.840
been like, or like, just today, that could be like a good tool.

689
00:33:26.360 --> 00:33:29.280
That's good. We'd like just commit in each like repo, like

690
00:33:29.280 --> 00:33:32.040
this same skill or small differences.

691
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:37.800
Great. That's awesome. I'll make a note of that. I did do the

692
00:33:37.800 --> 00:33:38.920
real time task.

693
00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:44.400
I would use that all the time. I'm like making updates to

694
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:46.960
clients could be more.

695
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:52.440
You want to frame it as like, a recent activity or recent

696
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:53.280
progress?

697
00:33:55.520 --> 00:33:57.800
Because I don't know how you store the like task grid

698
00:33:57.800 --> 00:34:03.480
properties. Maybe the item is a row and has like a data. So

699
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:03.840
anyway,

700
00:34:04.280 --> 00:34:08.199
yeah, would you would you frame it as like a recent activity?

701
00:34:09.400 --> 00:34:12.560
Recent progress? Okay. Yeah, I think that's added.

702
00:34:13.360 --> 00:34:15.840
It sounds even better, because that would take an account also

703
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:20.280
shaping like, oh, we clarified this scope, you know, we created

704
00:34:20.280 --> 00:34:20.880
this

705
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:26.239
slide brain changed. Yeah. We every there's a massive log of

706
00:34:26.239 --> 00:34:30.199
everything, of every MCP call and stuff that goes in for every

707
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:34.000
project right now. So I've kind of like overdone the the logging.

708
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:39.280
So, yeah, I think if we just took like a summary of that, and

709
00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:42.840
it could just be like, you know, I think we frame it as

710
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:48.120
like activity, like, hey, here's what has changed, like, you know,

711
00:34:48.120 --> 00:34:50.600
and maybe, or maybe it's got some status as well. Like, hey,

712
00:34:50.600 --> 00:34:54.920
there were there were 10 tasks, Lucian's done seven of them, and

713
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:59.000
there's three remaining like that kind of split. I'll play

714
00:34:59.000 --> 00:35:00.000
with that. That's, that's good.

715
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:03.560
Kind of like an, like a status or like an update.

716
00:35:03.960 --> 00:35:06.680
Um, cause then we could probably standardize it.

717
00:35:06.680 --> 00:35:09.520
I think that where you're headed is like, it can be a little bit less.

718
00:35:10.560 --> 00:35:10.760
Yeah.

719
00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:15.640
It's just like the one time thing, you know, like the, the data flowing of

720
00:35:15.640 --> 00:35:19.200
the dashboard and then when just like each repo tweaks, it's on like

721
00:35:19.200 --> 00:35:25.160
cloud scale updates, but, um, yeah, I guess the tasks, the smartest way to

722
00:35:25.160 --> 00:35:28.320
do that would be to have the tasks in notion and you're working kind of

723
00:35:28.320 --> 00:35:31.760
through each ticket like that, or you have them in the task grid, but of

724
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:35.520
course, if it doesn't have any of that, then it's just like flying blind.

725
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:41.160
But potentially it could be good enough to just have it pulled a

726
00:35:41.160 --> 00:35:44.320
frame and task grid and commits.

727
00:35:44.640 --> 00:35:49.880
And then it will know it just, I think probably that would be 99.

728
00:35:51.640 --> 00:35:51.960
Good.

729
00:35:51.960 --> 00:35:52.200
Yeah.

730
00:35:53.400 --> 00:36:00.120
That would be like a combo of like dashboard MCP and then in the skill itself.

731
00:36:00.240 --> 00:36:00.480
So.

732
00:36:02.080 --> 00:36:02.320
Yeah.

733
00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:03.560
I wrap we're about to dinner.

734
00:36:04.160 --> 00:36:04.600
We're done.

735
00:36:04.640 --> 00:36:05.680
We're just chatting at this point.

736
00:36:05.680 --> 00:36:05.920
Yeah.

737
00:36:07.040 --> 00:36:07.640
Just jamming.

738
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.280
Um, yeah, we don't.

739
00:36:10.280 --> 00:36:14.080
So that's the thing is we don't have the, we don't have the commits or the GitHub.

740
00:36:15.200 --> 00:36:15.600
Um,

741
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:16.600
No, no, no.

742
00:36:16.600 --> 00:36:19.560
But you have it locally, like your cloud.

743
00:36:20.080 --> 00:36:20.600
Oh, that's right.

744
00:36:20.640 --> 00:36:20.880
Yeah.

745
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:21.320
Yeah.

746
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:21.560
Yeah.

747
00:36:21.560 --> 00:36:21.760
Yeah.

748
00:36:22.080 --> 00:36:22.440
Sorry.

749
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:23.200
That's right.

750
00:36:23.440 --> 00:36:23.600
Yeah.

751
00:36:23.600 --> 00:36:24.760
I've over-complicating it.

752
00:36:24.760 --> 00:36:25.120
So yeah.

753
00:36:25.120 --> 00:36:30.040
So we're just going to tool call the tasks, framing task grid stuff.

754
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:34.600
And then you would just use like, maybe, so one thing we can do is we can program

755
00:36:34.600 --> 00:36:39.560
it to pull, um, whatever the local, like we can, because you can put a little

756
00:36:39.560 --> 00:36:41.600
bit instructions in the MCP side.

757
00:36:41.600 --> 00:36:47.120
So when it gets the status, it says like now for all gets use the project you're

758
00:36:47.120 --> 00:36:50.920
in and use the repo or the branch that you're in, you know, just a little single

759
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:51.720
statement like that.

760
00:36:51.720 --> 00:36:54.760
So it doesn't try to go and do more than it needs to.

761
00:36:54.800 --> 00:36:56.640
Perhaps that's an interesting concept.

762
00:36:56.640 --> 00:36:59.920
You put the, um, instructions like in both sides.

763
00:36:59.920 --> 00:37:03.680
So it's kind of like, it's getting driven from both sides, like the local

764
00:37:03.680 --> 00:37:06.000
skill and the dashboard MCP are telling it.

765
00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:06.240
Oh yeah.

766
00:37:06.240 --> 00:37:11.040
Cause you're saying there could be conflicts if like changes in one, but

767
00:37:11.040 --> 00:37:12.200
it doesn't change in the other.

768
00:37:12.880 --> 00:37:15.960
So I'm leaning more of like putting it only in the skill.

769
00:37:16.320 --> 00:37:20.720
Like MCP just delivers the information is not prescriptive of how to use it.

770
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:21.400
Later.

771
00:37:21.880 --> 00:37:22.160
Yeah.

772
00:37:22.200 --> 00:37:26.840
Or yeah, if it's just in the MCP, cause then you can kind of just like take my

773
00:37:26.840 --> 00:37:31.160
little MCP account to whatever project I want and it, and know that it's got

774
00:37:31.160 --> 00:37:34.360
access to these, like a Novo skills that are sort of private.

775
00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:37.920
Um, yeah, that's interesting.

776
00:37:39.040 --> 00:37:40.440
Cause yeah.

777
00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:46.080
You have a way to expose like the skills from the novel dashboard or it's my

778
00:37:46.080 --> 00:37:46.320
mind.

779
00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:50.080
It's just like per repo is the only possibility of like, it's.

780
00:37:50.720 --> 00:37:51.080
Yeah.

781
00:37:51.080 --> 00:37:59.000
I mean, it's in, um, it's in like, uh, there's like an MCP that I'd have to go

782
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:05.040
find it now, but like maybe it's in the, uh, maybe it's API.

783
00:38:05.080 --> 00:38:06.480
I think it's API MCP.

784
00:38:08.200 --> 00:38:13.120
Um, I've never like used the, the, uh, here it is.

785
00:38:13.120 --> 00:38:13.360
Yeah.

786
00:38:14.360 --> 00:38:20.000
Um, so there's just one file, I guess here, I guess it's pulling

787
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:21.120
from some other places.

788
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:29.200
Uh, but yeah, I never used the like GitHub UI.

789
00:38:29.200 --> 00:38:34.840
This all looks so strange to me, but, um, I'll, I'll pull it up a bit

790
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:35.720
somewhere in here.

791
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:41.560
It basically has like the, the URL for that, um, like each of these little

792
00:38:41.560 --> 00:38:46.160
tool calls and so that, yeah, you can wrap like some of the tools have, can

793
00:38:46.160 --> 00:38:48.240
have like more, more with it.

794
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:52.640
Um, so I'll find out exactly where it is.

795
00:38:53.200 --> 00:38:56.120
Oh, and then there's the CLI, which I've not really like, honestly, I haven't

796
00:38:56.120 --> 00:38:57.120
used much.

797
00:38:57.760 --> 00:39:00.800
Um, I haven't really found a use case for it.

798
00:39:01.240 --> 00:39:05.720
I thought that was going to be like the thing that fixed everything, but I

799
00:39:05.720 --> 00:39:06.440
haven't really,

800
00:39:06.640 --> 00:39:07.760
Gennaro's thing was cool.

801
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:09.480
You know, his, uh, what was it?

802
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:10.160
Hermes.

803
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:11.400
Yeah.

804
00:39:11.640 --> 00:39:11.960
Right.

805
00:39:11.960 --> 00:39:12.480
That was cool.

806
00:39:13.600 --> 00:39:13.960
Yeah.

807
00:39:14.040 --> 00:39:17.240
And you can, I think Hermes is open source as well.

808
00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:18.960
It's another like paperclip.

809
00:39:20.600 --> 00:39:20.800
Yeah.

810
00:39:20.800 --> 00:39:24.560
He, he forked it from a ant farm and that's open source, but then he

811
00:39:24.560 --> 00:39:25.320
customized it.

812
00:39:26.480 --> 00:39:28.040
Yeah, that's, that's cool.

813
00:39:28.320 --> 00:39:30.760
It's, um, definitely does.

814
00:39:31.640 --> 00:39:33.680
Uh, are you still using paperclip?

815
00:39:35.080 --> 00:39:35.760
Uh, yeah.

816
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:38.120
I also had like my own little kind of meltdown.

817
00:39:38.120 --> 00:39:44.560
It was like, it started getting to getting into like a loop of like, it's, it's

818
00:39:44.560 --> 00:39:45.520
not deterministic.

819
00:39:45.520 --> 00:39:51.360
Like when a task, you like create a task, it actually loads the paperclip skill.

820
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:56.200
And then like does an MCP call to like paperclip issues.

821
00:39:56.200 --> 00:40:00.040
And it's like, at some point it got into a loop of like, Oh, my token.

822
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:05.000
doesn't work, let me go read the paperclip source code in order to see how to like, go

823
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:10.060
like takes like I measured it took like eight minutes to like actually start doing the task

824
00:40:10.060 --> 00:40:11.060
work.

825
00:40:11.060 --> 00:40:12.060
You know?

826
00:40:12.060 --> 00:40:13.060
Yeah.

827
00:40:13.060 --> 00:40:14.060
It was just like doing a paperclip.

828
00:40:14.060 --> 00:40:15.060
Yeah.

829
00:40:15.060 --> 00:40:16.060
It's too much tinkering.

830
00:40:16.060 --> 00:40:20.200
Like mine, uh, I asked it, this is, and this is so dumb.

831
00:40:20.200 --> 00:40:22.760
I was like, I tinker, it was fine.

832
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:27.000
And then I like played with it and I was like, Hey, I was just like in, I went VPS, like

833
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:28.400
Claude at the root.

834
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.120
And I was like, Hey, I've been running paperclip for awhile.

835
00:40:30.120 --> 00:40:34.160
Can you just like make sure that like, I was like, just wanted to do like do a little audit,

836
00:40:34.160 --> 00:40:36.920
make sure that things are like working as they should.

837
00:40:36.920 --> 00:40:40.480
You know, I wanted to make sure we weren't like blowing up the CPU or whatever.

838
00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:42.280
Or should I upgrade the CPU or whatever?

839
00:40:42.280 --> 00:40:46.820
It comes back and it's like, Oh yeah, there's a, there's a process, a Claude session that's

840
00:40:46.820 --> 00:40:48.800
been running for two weeks.

841
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:53.180
That's completely consuming a hundred percent of your, uh, CPU.

842
00:40:53.180 --> 00:40:54.180
And I was like, what?

843
00:40:54.580 --> 00:40:58.020
You know, I was like, and I was like, are you sure this is not, um, paperclip?

844
00:40:58.020 --> 00:41:02.700
And it's like, no, this is like happy coder tool, which is like a, it's like terminus.

845
00:41:02.700 --> 00:41:07.540
That's like a, like a symbol, like a, uh, app for coding from your phone.

846
00:41:07.540 --> 00:41:10.100
And I was like, Oh, I tried it and deleted it.

847
00:41:10.100 --> 00:41:12.820
And it's like, Oh no, this is like happy coder thing's been running for two weeks.

848
00:41:12.820 --> 00:41:14.540
And I was like, Oh, kill that thing now.

849
00:41:14.540 --> 00:41:15.540
So it kills it.

850
00:41:15.540 --> 00:41:21.640
Then it was like, also you're, um, running off a dev build of paperclip.

851
00:41:21.640 --> 00:41:24.400
Like it just did a little quick dev build to get it going.

852
00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:27.360
And I've been, I was like, if you want to, we can like do a production build and this

853
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:28.360
thing will run a lot faster.

854
00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:30.460
And I was like, well, yeah, for sure do that.

855
00:41:30.460 --> 00:41:32.960
And so it does that, gets it running again.

856
00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:37.200
And then it starts running into permission issues and it's like, Oh, you can't use like,

857
00:41:37.200 --> 00:41:41.800
you know, dangerously, you know, permission thing as root that's like built into their

858
00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:42.800
thing.

859
00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:43.800
They don't want to let you do that.

860
00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:44.800
I was like, no problem.

861
00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:46.440
We'll just make a new user called paperclip.

862
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:51.240
And then like all the issues just opened up because like every single file that it touches

863
00:41:51.240 --> 00:41:55.200
is now like needs to, has to have the permissions change to work with root and paperclip.

864
00:41:55.200 --> 00:41:57.520
Oh, I got, I got the, the thing for that.

865
00:41:57.520 --> 00:42:02.040
You just put them all in like the pseudo group and it's like pseudo, no password.

866
00:42:02.040 --> 00:42:03.040
You're just like every day.

867
00:42:03.040 --> 00:42:07.840
I mean, I, I should, it's gone in like it's, I've wasted so much time.

868
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:12.080
And then like this all happened on Monday morning and I get this text from Z and he's

869
00:42:12.080 --> 00:42:14.480
like, Hey, do you think you can meet at 11 and show me like paperclip?

870
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:20.560
And I was like, no, like I'm not showing you this.

871
00:42:20.560 --> 00:42:24.200
Like I don't want to, I don't want to see paperclip for a while.

872
00:42:24.200 --> 00:42:25.200
So anyway.

873
00:42:25.200 --> 00:42:30.640
But yeah, Jannat is like so on point, like this is the mental model of someone else.

874
00:42:30.640 --> 00:42:32.040
Like they can debug it.

875
00:42:32.040 --> 00:42:33.040
No problem.

876
00:42:33.040 --> 00:42:37.320
Like they're like built into it in their way of thinking.

877
00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:42.680
Like I, so I'm thinking I may use something like perplexity as like my like automation

878
00:42:42.680 --> 00:42:46.380
stuff and then still have the MCP with the company.

879
00:42:46.380 --> 00:42:50.740
And then I just, cause you have to like organize yourself first and automate what you're,

880
00:42:50.740 --> 00:42:54.580
you're doing and then kind of plug into all the other stuff is kind of the flow.

881
00:42:54.580 --> 00:42:59.060
I think we're not going to have like an Enovo paperclip that we all sign into and like do

882
00:42:59.060 --> 00:43:00.060
stuff.

883
00:43:00.060 --> 00:43:01.060
That's, that's never going to work.

884
00:43:01.060 --> 00:43:02.060
Not for a while.

885
00:43:02.060 --> 00:43:03.060
Yeah, for sure.

886
00:43:03.060 --> 00:43:05.300
I think we're a ways from that.

887
00:43:05.300 --> 00:43:10.900
But we could expose, I don't know, I just, I'm obsessed with this idea, like expose like

888
00:43:10.900 --> 00:43:15.300
little like tools, you know, or like there's the, I found the droplet there.

889
00:43:15.300 --> 00:43:16.820
It's called Claude Dev.

890
00:43:16.820 --> 00:43:18.060
It's in the.

891
00:43:18.060 --> 00:43:19.060
That's mine.

892
00:43:19.060 --> 00:43:20.060
That's my.

893
00:43:20.060 --> 00:43:21.060
All right.

894
00:43:21.060 --> 00:43:22.620
That's, that's where my paperclip is.

895
00:43:22.620 --> 00:43:25.260
Don't, don't follow that up.

896
00:43:25.260 --> 00:43:29.980
You said it was called Enovo and I was like, it's not an Enovo.

897
00:43:29.980 --> 00:43:30.980
It's yeah.

898
00:43:30.980 --> 00:43:36.060
Claude Dev is my, is where my paperclips running and it's also my virtual, I do everything

899
00:43:36.060 --> 00:43:37.060
on one.

900
00:43:37.060 --> 00:43:38.060
It's my virtual.

901
00:43:38.060 --> 00:43:40.660
I'll just move it from the tribe social project to the Enovo studio.

902
00:43:40.660 --> 00:43:41.660
Is it not?

903
00:43:41.660 --> 00:43:42.660
Oh, is it in tribe social?

904
00:43:42.660 --> 00:43:43.660
Yeah.

905
00:43:43.660 --> 00:43:44.660
Well, there we go.

906
00:43:45.020 --> 00:43:51.620
So yeah, I, and that, that's been working great.

907
00:43:51.620 --> 00:43:54.060
Like I, I pull stuff down.

908
00:43:54.060 --> 00:43:55.900
It's got full GitHub, everything.

909
00:43:55.900 --> 00:43:58.900
I do the run Claude dangerously on there.

910
00:43:58.900 --> 00:43:59.900
Yeah.

911
00:43:59.900 --> 00:44:00.900
Yeah.

912
00:44:00.900 --> 00:44:01.900
On the VPS is great.

913
00:44:01.900 --> 00:44:04.780
I'm learning that people do it like on like a Docker thing locally.

914
00:44:04.780 --> 00:44:11.980
And so there's like stuff to explore also, but it's really nice to like dangerously skip

915
00:44:11.980 --> 00:44:12.980
permissions.

916
00:44:12.980 --> 00:44:13.980
Yeah.

917
00:44:14.300 --> 00:44:15.300
Yeah.

918
00:44:15.300 --> 00:44:24.420
So I, I like, I did the live task real time database thing with the tasks and it worked

919
00:44:24.420 --> 00:44:25.540
in 15 minutes.

920
00:44:25.540 --> 00:44:27.140
Like I started on perplexity.

921
00:44:27.140 --> 00:44:29.540
I just like, I was like, Hey, can you go ahead and frame this up?

922
00:44:29.540 --> 00:44:34.940
And I always have it like put it in the plan folder, put it in the, in a branch.

923
00:44:34.940 --> 00:44:39.140
And then I just pull that up on my machine and I was like, could go execute this in dangerously

924
00:44:39.140 --> 00:44:40.140
mode.

925
00:44:40.140 --> 00:44:41.140
Perfect.

926
00:44:41.140 --> 00:44:42.140
It worked.

927
00:44:42.140 --> 00:44:43.140
It worked within 20 minutes.

928
00:44:43.300 --> 00:44:44.300
I just left it for a while.

929
00:44:44.300 --> 00:44:45.300
Came back.

930
00:44:45.300 --> 00:44:47.140
I said, don't, don't stop until you're done.

931
00:44:47.140 --> 00:44:48.820
I'll come back in the QA at the end.

932
00:44:48.820 --> 00:44:50.820
Like just go, like go for it.

933
00:44:50.820 --> 00:44:51.900
Worked perfectly.

934
00:44:51.900 --> 00:44:55.940
Then I spent like an hour and a half just trying to get the like live editing things.

935
00:44:55.940 --> 00:44:59.820
I was like, no, how cool would it be if like Lutron's editing this thing and I'm touching

936
00:44:59.820 --> 00:45:00.020
this.

937
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:01.460
So then I could see like Lucian's editing this

938
00:45:01.460 --> 00:45:02.300
and I'm editing that

939
00:45:02.300 --> 00:45:03.940
and you can kind of see people like working on it.

940
00:45:03.940 --> 00:45:05.640
I was like, that would be so cool.

941
00:45:05.640 --> 00:45:08.140
And that's what took like so long.

942
00:45:08.140 --> 00:45:10.580
It took me like an hour and a half to get

943
00:45:10.580 --> 00:45:12.280
in circles for that, but it works.

944
00:45:13.220 --> 00:45:15.480
I don't know if you've tried it.

945
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:16.580
It's supposed to work.

946
00:45:18.900 --> 00:45:19.780
I just saw your GIF.

947
00:45:19.780 --> 00:45:20.620
That looks awesome.

948
00:45:20.620 --> 00:45:21.540
I didn't try it yet.

949
00:45:23.180 --> 00:45:25.820
But like, if you go to like, I don't know,

950
00:45:25.820 --> 00:45:29.740
April management.

951
00:45:31.740 --> 00:45:32.580
So.

952
00:45:41.420 --> 00:45:42.260
Status is wrong.

953
00:45:42.260 --> 00:45:43.260
So they're ready.

954
00:45:46.340 --> 00:45:48.520
In the test group right now.

955
00:45:48.520 --> 00:45:50.900
Oh, that's cool.

956
00:45:53.860 --> 00:45:54.700
There you go.

957
00:45:55.900 --> 00:45:57.360
You can see a change on mine.

958
00:45:59.220 --> 00:46:03.180
I like the logs, the MCP logs is going to be like,

959
00:46:03.180 --> 00:46:04.580
Lucian added, what's up?

960
00:46:08.580 --> 00:46:12.420
But this would be so cool if we're like on a, wait.

961
00:46:12.420 --> 00:46:16.140
Yeah, y'all like for like collaborative sessions.

962
00:46:16.140 --> 00:46:17.980
I think it just added it twice that it did.

963
00:46:17.980 --> 00:46:21.260
I wrote second slice and it put it in there twice.

964
00:46:21.260 --> 00:46:25.460
I like ship fast, break things, that sort of thing.

965
00:46:26.100 --> 00:46:27.540
You know how it is.

966
00:46:27.540 --> 00:46:29.540
But it's like, now.

967
00:46:29.540 --> 00:46:31.300
Look at, I already broke it.

968
00:46:34.580 --> 00:46:35.420
Do you see what's happening on my screen?

969
00:46:35.420 --> 00:46:38.140
Yeah, yeah, I reported you like another like little issue

970
00:46:38.140 --> 00:46:42.020
when in the, you know, when you create it.

971
00:46:42.020 --> 00:46:43.420
That's weird things.

972
00:46:43.420 --> 00:46:45.900
But now they're like agents do our task grid.

973
00:46:45.900 --> 00:46:49.740
It's like, are we even gonna be collaborating in it live?

974
00:46:49.740 --> 00:46:50.580
Yeah.

975
00:46:50.580 --> 00:46:53.940
But what's, I think we do need, there's probably like,

976
00:46:53.980 --> 00:46:55.220
we could probably flesh this out

977
00:46:55.220 --> 00:46:59.060
because Notion has infinite amount of space to write things.

978
00:46:59.060 --> 00:47:00.700
And this is so limited.

979
00:47:00.700 --> 00:47:02.980
We almost need like, you know,

980
00:47:02.980 --> 00:47:04.140
we've talked about each of these

981
00:47:04.140 --> 00:47:06.380
becoming a Notion task as well

982
00:47:06.380 --> 00:47:08.300
so that you could go a layer deeper

983
00:47:08.300 --> 00:47:10.820
because it would be nice if like,

984
00:47:10.820 --> 00:47:13.260
it kind of worked its way through these

985
00:47:13.260 --> 00:47:15.860
because it needs more context than take,

986
00:47:15.860 --> 00:47:18.500
go grab this slice of like set up off.

987
00:47:18.500 --> 00:47:21.180
And this says like, set up Google off, set up super base.

988
00:47:21.220 --> 00:47:22.060
You know, like these are going to be

989
00:47:22.060 --> 00:47:24.820
very high level little tasks,

990
00:47:24.820 --> 00:47:25.860
but each one has a lot of.

991
00:47:25.860 --> 00:47:27.140
I'm gonna go back to like my,

992
00:47:27.140 --> 00:47:28.940
cause I think that would be a great feature.

993
00:47:28.940 --> 00:47:32.220
Just like allow like pasting link, you know,

994
00:47:32.220 --> 00:47:34.140
how in Notion you can highlight a text,

995
00:47:34.140 --> 00:47:36.940
paste a link there and it becomes like a link.

996
00:47:36.940 --> 00:47:38.620
Yeah, we could do that.

997
00:47:38.620 --> 00:47:40.100
Cause like some, otherwise like,

998
00:47:40.100 --> 00:47:43.780
cause I use the like task view sometimes too.

999
00:47:43.780 --> 00:47:46.340
If it will be like flooded, it will kind of.

1000
00:47:46.340 --> 00:47:48.260
We could, we also could have another thing

1001
00:47:48.260 --> 00:47:49.820
where if you just tap,

1002
00:47:49.820 --> 00:47:52.700
like if there'd be a little icon or something,

1003
00:47:52.700 --> 00:47:53.900
dropdown or something for this task,

1004
00:47:53.900 --> 00:47:56.380
that's just like open in Notion.

1005
00:47:56.380 --> 00:47:59.180
And it just like makes a new task in Notion

1006
00:47:59.180 --> 00:48:00.380
that's linked to this one.

1007
00:48:00.380 --> 00:48:03.180
Cause that's, they are the same thing in the database.

1008
00:48:03.180 --> 00:48:04.700
There's just one thing called task

1009
00:48:04.700 --> 00:48:07.340
and the task could be in a grid

1010
00:48:07.340 --> 00:48:09.340
or it could be in Notion or both.

1011
00:48:09.340 --> 00:48:11.460
It's a three way.

1012
00:48:11.460 --> 00:48:13.900
Right now your data models like task

1013
00:48:13.900 --> 00:48:17.020
is a thing with optional Notion ID.

1014
00:48:17.020 --> 00:48:18.220
Yeah.

1015
00:48:18.220 --> 00:48:19.900
Oh, then just plug the two that's.

1016
00:48:19.900 --> 00:48:20.980
Yeah, so I was thinking like,

1017
00:48:20.980 --> 00:48:23.980
but if you were in here and I wanted to be like set this

1018
00:48:23.980 --> 00:48:26.340
or when we click up here and you're like,

1019
00:48:26.340 --> 00:48:28.460
create these, all of these tasks,

1020
00:48:28.460 --> 00:48:30.780
like make, move this to Notion essentially.

1021
00:48:30.780 --> 00:48:33.540
So I could like move them all into like dev ready,

1022
00:48:33.540 --> 00:48:35.740
you know, take each of those as a new task.

1023
00:48:35.740 --> 00:48:37.820
And then it's kind of stupid though.

1024
00:48:37.820 --> 00:48:38.660
I don't know.

1025
00:48:38.660 --> 00:48:41.300
Like, I just want to give a weight for,

1026
00:48:41.300 --> 00:48:42.740
oh, so here's the crazy thing is,

1027
00:48:42.740 --> 00:48:44.820
okay, this is way too complicated.

1028
00:48:44.820 --> 00:48:45.660
We don't need Notion.

1029
00:48:45.660 --> 00:48:47.500
We don't need Notion at all necessarily.

1030
00:48:47.500 --> 00:48:50.220
Like the, this is a task

1031
00:48:50.220 --> 00:48:52.180
and tasks have a thing called content.

1032
00:48:52.180 --> 00:48:53.500
That's where all the stuff goes.

1033
00:48:53.500 --> 00:48:55.100
Like all the notes and all the comments go.

1034
00:48:55.100 --> 00:48:56.580
Those are all in super base.

1035
00:48:56.580 --> 00:48:58.380
It just also pushes it down to Notion.

1036
00:48:58.380 --> 00:49:01.140
When you use the MCP, it writes it all to the task

1037
00:49:01.140 --> 00:49:04.140
and the task pushes it back down to Notion as well.

1038
00:49:05.500 --> 00:49:09.700
So behind each of these little things right here

1039
00:49:09.700 --> 00:49:12.500
is a whole, the depth is there already.

1040
00:49:12.500 --> 00:49:14.220
Like the comment ability for comments,

1041
00:49:14.220 --> 00:49:15.620
the ability to assign this to someone,

1042
00:49:15.620 --> 00:49:17.540
the ability to put, like,

1043
00:49:17.540 --> 00:49:19.220
you could even have like click on this

1044
00:49:19.220 --> 00:49:23.500
and it could open up a little like modal

1045
00:49:23.500 --> 00:49:26.900
that has like the whole details of that task if you wanted.

1046
00:49:28.060 --> 00:49:32.900
So I'll play with that if we wanted to basically like,

1047
00:49:35.340 --> 00:49:37.700
the thing would be like adding detail,

1048
00:49:37.700 --> 00:49:41.380
like to a task or a task so that like,

1049
00:49:41.380 --> 00:49:43.820
you could put context for,

1050
00:49:43.820 --> 00:49:44.900
because then what you could do is you could build

1051
00:49:44.940 --> 00:49:47.780
a task grid and you could tell AI, like,

1052
00:49:47.780 --> 00:49:50.700
hey, go MCP, like go flesh these out,

1053
00:49:50.700 --> 00:49:53.620
like write instructions for each one of these tasks.

1054
00:49:53.620 --> 00:49:54.780
And then I could click through them

1055
00:49:54.780 --> 00:49:56.060
and watch them being done and be like,

1056
00:49:56.060 --> 00:49:58.580
okay, go execute on the whole of slice one,

1057
00:49:58.580 --> 00:50:00.380
you know, just rip through each one.

1058
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:02.800
updates the status and it makes comments on each one as it goes.

1059
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:11.200
I'm wondering, I'll be a bit, I would say black hat.

1060
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:19.040
Like, do we run into like bottlenecks where this would help? Or are we kind of like

1061
00:50:19.040 --> 00:50:25.200
doing like solutions to? Well, the, my thing is like task grids are too

1062
00:50:26.160 --> 00:50:34.000
um, brief. They're not enough context for the AI to like see stuff. Notion's great because I can

1063
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:39.520
create a task with like a lot of instructions in that one content. And so I could say like,

1064
00:50:39.520 --> 00:50:44.240
hey, I'm fixing this. Let's say a bug is a task. It's going to write all the instructions of what

1065
00:50:44.240 --> 00:50:49.520
it wants to do, execute on it. And then when it's done executing, it leaves a comment. So it's that

1066
00:50:49.520 --> 00:50:56.000
like bigger scope being captured. You're helping me see like another piece of it because

1067
00:50:56.640 --> 00:51:03.120
uh, usually it's, it's enough if I tell my cloud, like get the framing, get the task grid.

1068
00:51:03.760 --> 00:51:09.760
And I do like shaping and like system design pass, but then I save it to like a local file.

1069
00:51:10.480 --> 00:51:18.160
And our gap now is like our shaping is actually, our process is to do it like manually in like a

1070
00:51:18.640 --> 00:51:27.520
Figma. And that's not like really navigable. So maybe we can just add like that intermediary

1071
00:51:27.520 --> 00:51:33.040
step because I think the agents are like probably going to be more than competent

1072
00:51:33.040 --> 00:51:37.680
enough if they have like frame shape and task grid and you tell it like do the slice.

1073
00:51:39.200 --> 00:51:45.120
Yeah. We could try that. I think like, also it depends on the project. So like this is one

1074
00:51:45.120 --> 00:51:48.800
obviously this is just a bunch of dummy. And that's like my workflow. I'm kind of.

1075
00:51:49.520 --> 00:51:54.160
Yeah. So like I was doing this, which this is like kind of a monster project,

1076
00:51:54.160 --> 00:52:02.000
but I'm using a task grid for it. So like this was launching a new client. And so my

1077
00:52:04.640 --> 00:52:10.480
like a whole slice was just content migration for this client. Then me was building this whole

1078
00:52:10.480 --> 00:52:15.200
view. So like create a new directory, like mock up the library state, like create collection

1079
00:52:15.200 --> 00:52:20.320
components with API link, like conditional only for uplift, like anywhere where I ripped. And

1080
00:52:20.320 --> 00:52:25.600
these are all my notes as far as like how I thought it needed to get done. And then I kind of,

1081
00:52:25.600 --> 00:52:30.800
like you said, I pull all the context down and I would let it create a plan locally in the repo,

1082
00:52:31.360 --> 00:52:34.480
you know, for me to read. And then I would look through the plan and be like, yes, do it. And

1083
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:40.400
then just go off. But if you're getting towards like the code factory thing where you're like,

1084
00:52:41.200 --> 00:52:45.040
having it create all the tasks and all the instructions at one thing, and then you can

1085
00:52:45.040 --> 00:52:50.000
kind of review all the instructions, you just like you put the whole stack of tasks like in the

1086
00:52:53.040 --> 00:52:58.320
dev ready, and it just starts to like process those top to bottom. That would be kind of cool.

1087
00:52:58.640 --> 00:53:04.720
Um, but I'm not quite there yet to where it's like, drag all these things over.

1088
00:53:05.840 --> 00:53:14.560
Yeah, the notion thing sounds more like for human navigability. Although I don't know if it's needed

1089
00:53:14.560 --> 00:53:20.800
like to be able to like, expand like a single task and take like a lot of notes. Let me write

1090
00:53:21.120 --> 00:53:28.320
like an escape hatch thing. I just like create a notion thing or like a local plan for a single

1091
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:35.760
task. If it's like bigger. Yeah. Like shaping, like saving the shaping the system design.

1092
00:53:36.560 --> 00:53:40.160
It sounds like there's good use case to put it in the dashboard.

1093
00:53:42.240 --> 00:53:48.560
Yeah, I think I'll just see the the where the CLI stuff came from was the ability for like

1094
00:53:48.560 --> 00:53:56.240
one coding agent to spawn additional coding agents for each, you know, task or to work on

1095
00:53:56.240 --> 00:54:02.720
stuff in parallel. That's I'm not, I'm doing parallel and like the dumbest. I'm like literally

1096
00:54:02.720 --> 00:54:09.520
have like two or three, some I sometimes have three VS code, like windows open. And like each

1097
00:54:09.520 --> 00:54:14.800
one has two different cloud instances running. And I mean, it's kind of dumb because like you get you

1098
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:19.200
get really bad. Like I was doing that I said an hour and a half like for the agent thing, but I

1099
00:54:19.200 --> 00:54:27.120
was working on the uplift webs thing at the same time. So we merged a map like a massive update

1100
00:54:27.120 --> 00:54:31.920
into that which worked great. Like we took everything Leon was doing with the AI. He just

1101
00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:37.440
left. But yeah, Leon stuff, all your group integration stuff. And then like all the

1102
00:54:37.440 --> 00:54:43.600
uplift things kind of all came together. Because they have this like custom home screen thing that

1103
00:54:43.600 --> 00:54:50.080
they wanted. And this custom AI stuff. So we did some pretty big upgrades to it. But

1104
00:54:51.600 --> 00:54:56.560
luckily, it all connected. Great. Like I was able to I kept pulling in your changes into my branch

1105
00:54:56.560 --> 00:54:59.920
and then fixing stuff. And I put my first

1106
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:06.120
free, my first private feature out. And I was like, going back

1107
00:55:06.120 --> 00:55:08.400
to your video last night, I was like, I know Lucian send it

1108
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:12.120
somewhere. And I was like, trying to like copy exactly. And

1109
00:55:12.120 --> 00:55:16.080
I was like, I added the thing added the flag in the, you know,

1110
00:55:16.080 --> 00:55:19.680
it was there was a required flag added it there in the database.

1111
00:55:20.000 --> 00:55:24.320
And it worked. Works fine. So it was great. And then the only

1112
00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:26.640
thing that was missing was like, there was not really a very

1113
00:55:26.640 --> 00:55:30.280
clear instructions of like how it got set up in the, in the

1114
00:55:30.280 --> 00:55:35.400
Flutter app, specifically. So I finally figured out like, where

1115
00:55:35.400 --> 00:55:37.320
because it was like, oh, I added it. And of course, it didn't

1116
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:39.680
work. And then it was like, oh, there's actually like four

1117
00:55:39.680 --> 00:55:42.320
places you need to add it in like the bottom nav in the

1118
00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:48.200
whatever. So yeah, I added a skill that says create new

1119
00:55:48.200 --> 00:55:52.080
feature, create new tribe group feature or something. And so you

1120
00:55:52.080 --> 00:55:54.760
could use that skill. And then you just tell it like I need

1121
00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:57.840
this with whatever, and it just kind of makes the new skill.

1122
00:55:59.320 --> 00:56:02.200
What I should do is put that at like the master level, and then

1123
00:56:02.200 --> 00:56:07.480
I can do the CMS side and the thing at the same prompt. But

1124
00:56:07.520 --> 00:56:10.160
yeah, yeah, that's an interesting one day. Other

1125
00:56:10.160 --> 00:56:12.640
challenge, you know, like how to structure the

1126
00:56:12.680 --> 00:56:14.800
got to merge. Every call is gonna be

1127
00:56:16.760 --> 00:56:20.600
potentially that could be like super easy thing, you know,

1128
00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:24.480
a directory called CMS directory called Flutter.

1129
00:56:26.040 --> 00:56:28.880
Yeah, we're just like, what we have like tribe social right

1130
00:56:28.880 --> 00:56:33.200
now, just in there exactly that just one subdirectory called

1131
00:56:33.200 --> 00:56:33.920
like mobile.

1132
00:56:34.520 --> 00:56:36.440
I think it's great. I'm down with that.

1133
00:56:37.720 --> 00:56:39.560
One prompt away lotion, you could do it.

1134
00:56:40.960 --> 00:56:41.640
Break like

1135
00:56:42.520 --> 00:56:44.880
question of pride, I wouldn't even prompt I would just like

1136
00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:49.920
grab the thing, put it all in manually just to prove that it's

1137
00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:51.680
like a one shot.

1138
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:55.080
Because the Yeah, I do think that's the right way. Leave the

1139
00:56:55.080 --> 00:56:58.920
CMS where it is. It's also cleaner. It's less, you know,

1140
00:56:59.840 --> 00:57:02.720
it's connected to more things as well. And then actually, it's

1141
00:57:02.720 --> 00:57:06.880
like a sub part of Yeah, you would go to Yeah, it makes

1142
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:08.400
sense. And then you would go to like,

1143
00:57:09.840 --> 00:57:13.520
because I think having the skills merged now at the top is

1144
00:57:13.560 --> 00:57:15.560
perfect for this. We're like, I need to add some stuff to the

1145
00:57:15.560 --> 00:57:18.560
CMS, I need to add some stuff to the Flutter app. And also like,

1146
00:57:19.040 --> 00:57:23.680
we could have some skills that's like start my dev environment,

1147
00:57:23.680 --> 00:57:26.360
it could like spin up local here, spin up this and connect

1148
00:57:26.360 --> 00:57:31.000
the two, because that's also a pain to like, I have like dev

1149
00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:34.640
config. Yes, change it to local. I started doing something like

1150
00:57:34.640 --> 00:57:37.320
that. Because when I set up my VPS, I started thinking a lot

1151
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:42.480
about like, how do we just like safely allow like YOLO mode. And

1152
00:57:42.480 --> 00:57:46.440
like emulator as the way like just like local Firebase thing,

1153
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:49.760
like no Firebase project. Because right now, like if you

1154
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:54.640
want to be developing, you get to connect to prod. And I made a

1155
00:57:54.640 --> 00:57:58.240
work on the on the VPS that seems seems to work fine. Maybe

1156
00:57:58.240 --> 00:58:03.440
I'll merge maybe I don't know if they'll break the the like code

1157
00:58:03.440 --> 00:58:06.320
magic thing, the deployment.

1158
00:58:08.040 --> 00:58:08.680
Yeah, I said, we just

1159
00:58:09.000 --> 00:58:11.920
but this is like the kind of thing that I feel like the team

1160
00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:15.520
should be like working together on this team is on it where you

1161
00:58:15.520 --> 00:58:16.800
and me right here. Let's decide it.

1162
00:58:18.640 --> 00:58:22.280
Okay, emulator. I vote. I say we do emulator for like local

1163
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:22.800
dev.

1164
00:58:23.240 --> 00:58:28.280
Yeah, I haven't tried the emulator. I do think like things

1165
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:31.760
we know we should do just need to like do is the like bring the

1166
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:35.600
mobile app in mobile directory. That's like, I don't think

1167
00:58:35.600 --> 00:58:38.320
there's anything that would break anywhere. I think we go to

1168
00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:41.160
code magic and you update to where you know the repo that

1169
00:58:41.160 --> 00:58:44.720
it's pointed to. And that's it. Everything because it record

1170
00:58:44.720 --> 00:58:47.080
magic manages all the deployments everywhere as long

1171
00:58:47.080 --> 00:58:53.280
as you fix code magics reference. We're fine. And then

1172
00:58:54.760 --> 00:58:56.960
you know, we may have some steps. And then I think just

1173
00:58:56.960 --> 00:58:58.640
having some automations where like,

1174
00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:03.080
oh, the other so I think there's two big things like merging the

1175
00:59:03.080 --> 00:59:05.680
code is one big thing. The second thing I think is having

1176
00:59:06.000 --> 00:59:10.320
like all those century stuff set up. And then we can have like a

1177
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:13.840
little bit more of like, peace of mind that like we just push

1178
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:16.760
some stuff and then you know, it can catch it's not gonna say

1179
00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:19.360
that's the thing. It's not gonna really catch like the flutter

1180
00:59:19.360 --> 00:59:21.640
side. So it's one it's one sided.

1181
00:59:23.360 --> 00:59:26.360
Yeah, but that's that's like a deep thing. You know, like just

1182
00:59:26.360 --> 00:59:30.360
continually improving the harness. Yeah, like we run all

1183
00:59:30.360 --> 00:59:32.560
of the proper things before each commit.

1184
00:59:32.640 --> 00:59:38.000
I did do it for the dashboard. It was like maybe two hours. I

1185
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:42.280
just prompted it to go and like it uses the century MCP. And

1186
00:59:42.720 --> 00:59:45.000
it just went back and forth and like checked stuff like oh, I

1187
00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:47.480
see you haven't even enabled back end stuff. Okay, you

1188
00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:50.160
haven't enabled this like you never know that. And it just

1189
00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:52.600
turned out I was like, let's turn everything on and give it

1190
00:59:52.600 --> 00:59:55.120
is because it did stuff like the slack tracing and all kinds of

1191
00:59:55.120 --> 01:00:00.080
stuff that it put into the code. And it's a very small

1192
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:03.640
I mean, you have a lot of users, but I was like,

1193
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surely we could get more out of that.

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01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:08.960
So we'll see.

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That's true.

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I started going down out there and I was just like,

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I started too many things.

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I'm like, how do we like interface like God band bars,

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like a flag environment thing?

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And I was like, ah.

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Yeah.

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01:00:21.340 --> 01:00:22.160
Yeah.

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01:00:22.160 --> 01:00:24.000
You'd have to like probably filter God band bars

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on all of that.

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I think we-

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01:00:25.660 --> 01:00:26.500
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

1207
01:00:26.500 --> 01:00:27.320
For sure.

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Maybe just, I would just keep, yeah,

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because I wanted to do like something smart,

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like, okay, tell me like the dashboard issues only,

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01:00:34.160 --> 01:00:37.480
just like admins, but like skip the API.

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So.