So I always have like, but all the agents in my office are here, on my notes, I have
like all these, of like Windows apps here, which are not connected with anything, because
I'm just like, in the sessions, but like, by the end of the session, I have all the
But like, the end, like, this is what's connected to my brain.
Sure.
The session that's available for me to use at any point.
Okay.
So, it's like, hey, what are you doing?
Okay.
And so, how is, okay, so where did Slack get, how did it get bring Slack in?
Does it?
Check Slack.
Okay.
And it's, and then it saved it to the transcripts.
Correct.
And then when you hear it was like, oh, by the way, I have that transcript and it pulled
it back into context.
I'm coming together.
I see.
Okay.
So, here, you can see how it navigates.
So, it's very natural.
It's a scroll.
It's very difficult to find.
It provides me some findings, which are interesting.
It provides me some connections here, which I can, now, what I do, I basically say.
I'm recording this for the team, by the way, just because this is like, no, it's amazing.
It's like super helpful.
I know he's like, oh, yeah, I'm just working.
I was like, this is, I think this would be super useful, everybody to see.
Because.
I'm glad that's helpful.
So, the person is basically what's always good.
Great.
Research.
Great.
Okay.
Yeah, this is where, so, you're kind of doing your thinking and research and.
Practicing.
Okay.
Yeah, this is where, so, you're kind of doing your thinking and research and planning in
And then you're going to go take it.
Yeah, yeah.
And then you're going to go take it. Yeah, yeah.
And then also.
And.
Which is very interesting because it allows me to kind of.
Use also monitoring.
Okay.
So, the project. So projects is not tribe social it's not an app it's like a thing I'm working on this week, it's just like an active, like, oh, it's more like a task, almost, I would think of like a task.
The main difference is like, a project is something we're bringing in at the end, and an area is something we're opening to new opportunities.
Or an area that we want to keep, or a responsibility that we want to keep.
For instance, like, an area that I want to expand into.
To manage my files, for instance.
Like, the bots that I use to manage my files.
Something that will begin, it will end.
And then through my archive...
Got it. Okay.
Yeah, I understand.
That's one thing.
Also, like, I didn't want to do it in practice.
Yes, exactly.
How do you link the repo to the...
Like, that max projects to specific files on my computer, so they can manage their repos.
Okay.
Also, like, in the general rule in my cloud, I have, like, all my repos saved on the same folder.
So, it's usually...
Okay, quick question.
Can you just zoom out?
Like, can you see your finder?
Like, where is the garden, and then where is it in relation to the repo folder?
Are they, like, siblings?
Are they parent, child?
Like, what's the...
This is super useful stuff.
Okay, so they're garden, and then there's a repo folder sibling, and then underneath is everything.
Okay, cool. Got it.
But if you go to the Janata folder, there is a .cloud directory in here.
Are you just ignoring that, or just letting it do whatever it wants in here?
It's in, like, a command shift period, or whatever, to see it.
But, like, that cloud folder right there, that's where, like, all your memories are being stored.
Yeah, it's called cloud.
Like, it's on my folder piece, and so, like, that's the idea of the cloud.
It's the generative state part of the world.
So, cloud can have, like, specific memories saved on cloud sessions.
But, like, what I use in Assassin's Creed is default.
Okay.
I have, like, all these skills that I have available across everything.
Yeah, amazing. This is good.
And do you... I've seen, like, Peter levels and stuff.
Like, they'll take this and then, like, commit the whole garden, like, to a repo and back it up every night.
Which is basically a...
Okay, and just to be, like, this is warp, though.
Warp is what's changing between those models, or you're not in Claude changing between models.
Because they kind of look so similar.
I'm just...
Okay.
Very nice. Okay, cool.
Okay, so that's a warp feature to...
Use the terminal to jump between
Correct
Or is that a
Yeah, yeah sure
Quickly have it. Yeah. Yeah
Okay, and
Herms is running inside everything you're talking about. Here's still this project is is inside the garden. She's running the Herms agent in the garden
Okay
And the beautiful thing is that
Obviously
It has this
Path
Which basically
I don't need a interface
To operate all the vaults
So all the vaults follow
The exigens structure
So yeah, it's very useful
For like
To get it
But you need to pay
For all the exigens
But for me
The cheaper option to manage
Your portals
In a
Organized way
Because we have
Super memory I think
Which is like
You can see
You can buy
Let's say
It's
Yeah, it's another tool
To pay
And
It's
Like more
It's more UI friendly
But the idea is
You connect all the agents
To the same infrastructure
And it's going to make them
Go
Let's see
Which may be useful
It's tricky
To
Manage
Let's say
Maybe you're supposed to do something like that
But I don't know
If we need to buy this
Or just implement
This
Open source stuff
And it's like very
It's
It's not easy
It's a lot easier to just
Get a piece of something
That you want and you end up
Talking to people
It's
It's an interesting approach
To do stuff so
And yeah
I'll show you something
This is like
Are these
Low
Because
This is
I actually
Don't remember
But we will see
Basically
This is
And this is the model
That runs
To manage the vault
To make sure
All agents are connected
To the vault
To make sure
Like
All the links
Because that's important
Here like
We have like
Yeah this case is interesting
Like visual
Visual stuff
Where
So like
Everything
That's related to
Remotion
Gets saved
So
I just come here and I say, hey, take a look at this and this has a nice startup one to work.
Whether you need to do
Anything
You can do
It's
And it works for everything.
It's
I also have this open body genetic thing, which basically I scan all the open body and I process it and take the genetic into my brain.
It's a very specific office and workflow that I do.
So this way, everything is still working.
It's just like getting ready for the next level of instruction.
Before it was about writing the rules, now it's just about writing the rules.
And there are some scripts associated with it.
Let me see if I can find a good example.
I think this one has a mixed script.
That's great.
So this is going to kind of close that loop.
So you're doing the task.
You wrote the thing for tribe.
So then it created a project.
Okay, cool.
So you jumped back to it.
I see.
Okay.
I wrote it all in Portuguese, but that's fair enough.
Okay.
Okay, so it's adding links.
It's letting links though in the MD file to a bunch of other stuff.
So I guess are you going to go load this into the next thing?
Exactly.
So all I have to do is I come here and I press on the shift C,
and I go through the instructions.
And I go up here and I go to the specific people.
Okay.
So that was a bit manual.
So you're literally seeding from the.
I didn't know what that handoff was going to look like.
So it is literally just you kind of getting into the directory,
launching cloud in that mobile directories where you started it,
not the whole tribe.
And then we're just dealing with it.
Okay.
Then you just pull the context in.
Okay, cool.
So it's loaded.
And then I see you've got like kickoff MD.
So is a way to just sort of kick is that you have to run the kickoff.
Then we'll just say, get started.
Or what?
Like.
Exactly.
Like the kickoff.
Basically.
Like a tool that provides the context.
Okay.
And then, and then do you just on this, do you fire this off?
It goes and does some stuff.
And then do we just, we basically finished the task in here.
We were like, we use the garden to kick things off,
but now we're kind of in this for the rest of the task.
Yeah.
So.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yes. It's like a manager for the agent.
Okay.
And, and.
Okay, but this is kind of like what is happening in paperclip in some cases,
like there's typically the, the CEO, or there's an agent who's like checking
stuff.
And then when he gets stuck, like they kind of keep pushing people along.
Um, it tends to that way.
It's it's, it basically does the whole thing and then comes back with the
finished product instead of, you know, you sort of babysitting it the whole
way.
Yeah.
No, I know.
I know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I'm just saying for the, for the rest of us who I don't have this set
up, um, and then yeah, and I see it found a two candidate repos.
There's two, two different cause we just merged it.
But, um, but then, okay, but that, uh, monitor loop, is that something that,
uh, your first agent through the garden created that custom for this project or
his monitor loop, like a general Janata monitoring MD file that you use for
anything?
Okay.
Gotcha.
So like all of my goals, like if you, like
what's important to one, it's not, and basically depending on the task, it's
able to decide and
it's great.
Like just reviewing them.
And you're just
itself.
Yeah.
And you, yeah, let's say, so you could have kicked off, you kicked off with
Claude, that's the one you chose to use, but you could have kicked off with like
a, a sort of dumber model if you wanted to, now that like, it's pretty well
structured.
Okay.
Yeah.
So if I come here to which is like the, I can just ask and it has like basically
a copy of the repos and a copy of the vault.
So basically
got it.
And it does the work.
Okay.
But
okay.
But you created a bunch of new stuff.
Like, you know, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,
you created a bunch of new stuff locally.
How did the VPS, did you, did that sink or push?
Like, did you
okay.
Okay.
Nice.
These are like these little connection points that you just like, oh, and then
it just starts.
I was like, wait a minute.
It didn't, how did it get the information?
Um, that's great.
And then, uh, okay.
So you can kick it off anywhere.
Um, that VPS that you showed in discord, is that open clause?
It just, uh, just a VPS with like Claude running or it's a clone of your.
Yeah.
Okay.
But you would just hand it to it and it could basically just access all the same
files.
Um, you've given open claw, like full access to that VPS to do what it wants to
do.
Okay.
Great.
Yeah.
It's awesome.
Super cool.
Very cool.
Wow.
So then, okay, cool.
Yeah, it's, it's, yeah, that's, that's more or less Holland revenue.
It wasn't like an expert.
Very interesting.
Cool.
Business.
Yeah.
I'm sure that's a easily fixed to the prompt, but yeah.
Oh,
push.
Because, like, all is like the way you would.
Like some stuff.
but i think like someone's using some part of the library
yeah that's funny
but the idea that's interesting this is something i've been asking a lot recently
which is this idea of like uh
if you do the excuse but you don't use only the excuse
yeah
why is like half this page in english and half of it in portuguese
that's my main that's the problem
okay
sometimes i start a sentence in portuguese and i end it
oh my gosh
it's like
so really we have no excuses when we're like you have like one more variable
thrown into the mix um so
um
to create the agentic folder
but this is like for when you are going to like a bigger approach
you can use like this idea of like creating a team of agents because
the idea is that i got myself
i'm ready to just find cli's and
what people are using
and to be able to create
and what this does is this kind of automates this process is
search the internet
that the models can use
institute specific tasks for instance like
you call one a model to manage my
facebook ads like we can do this like right now i created like it's our team
that managed my ads to load and see all the it managed the budgets and
upload and create and change stuff so it's fun because i don't have to use
the facebook ads interface anymore with like
but like
a team that will help you
yeah okay
no that's fine i mean i get it i just i wonder
because you're passing all those instructions in both like like
mixed languages so it's probably going to work much harder to like
determine basically get the whole thing in a sing it doesn't matter which language just pick one
um
if i talk in portuguese
translation layer yeah interesting well that's cool well this is good that's super helpful
uh i'll yeah this is good we'll have to like share this with the team if you're okay with it
awesome
share
it's very interesting
yeah just
about like
right now it's just about like
thinking
right
You see, like, I created this issue for, like,
monitoring this part of the output memory,
and it's a project default.
In parallel, I have here another agent
that's basically creating the same thing,
but for the loose key migration.
So you can see here, I have the projects,
and it's like basically loading all the information
to make it as powerful as possible for trying.
So what I would do is I would do, like,
the people who train machine learning,
others call, like, dogfooding.
So basically, I would say, okay,
now I will do, like, a solution
that is SDK in a way that will help
me, like, monitor issues like this one
that I already had mapped out.
Got it.
Yeah, try to see if what we're doing on project A
is actually gonna be useful with what we did on project B.
Yeah.
Exactly, and they can cross-check this,
so it becomes a way to check the guy,
always avoid, like, it gets, like, into the problem.
Yeah.
And then, are you, is this all,
are you using WorkTrees to do two,
you're doing two projects at the same time,
so WorkTrees, or are you just doing everything
without that?
Yeah, I usually do WorkTrees.
In this case, both projects that we showed
were, like, in research mode, let's say,
so they were, like, just different folders
inside the vault.
There's no risk of, like,
you know, something bad, but
when I go to work,
we show itself, and you look at it,
so WorkTrees.
Gotcha.
At least it's on research.
Like, not working two agents in the same project.
Got it.
So it's not different.
Okay.
So it's just in the same folder, basically.
Awesome.
Well, this has been great.
I'm gonna pause the recording there,
but this is, I'm sure everybody will have more questions,
but this was very helpful because
there's so many different ways to
do all of this stuff,
and so, like, just seeing, like,
oh, it gives people a place to start.
Like, oh, put the garden in this directory,
you have the repo directory there.
Like, structure it this way,
and then this is one workflow,
and everybody, you can use this as a starting point,
and then the cool thing is you can just start
customizing it from there to dial it in
exactly how you want it, so
very, very cool.
Basically, what I'm showing you is just a copy and paste,
and, like, it's a match of, like, all the different
categories, and I got, like,
also, I think I used, like,
a lot of the fire stuff,
but I didn't use it for notion.
So the only work was with this model
of the project server system,
and how I just, like, made it available to the agent,
and it's recognized this little part of the framework,
because you can, like,
also organize the agent directly.
Awesome.
Super cool.