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Now we're recording. Okay. So yes, welcome ladies. This is the one o'clock Eastern phase two

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Call here for last year single. I'm Carla Johnson. I'm one of your coaches here

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I am a success story. So I've been coaching now gosh

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Over two years now. I kind of lose track of

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Everything I I've been with Jackie since 2020 as a single and then I got married in

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2023 and then right after I got married I started coaching with her. So

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But I was doing a lot of stuff with her even in my single time as well. So

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It's so good to be here. I'm so glad she did not kick me out of her program after I got married

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I don't know what I would have done

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this program definitely

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This community was a saving grace for me. It has unlocked so much not just the marriage y'all

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I hope you I like that's one thing that I really just feel in my heart to share

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this community doesn't just

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You know unlock

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The possibility of you know, you get in your spirit mate, you know

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I'm like that happens y'all it does but it's so much more than that

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Okay

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Like I cannot even begin to tell you like it would take me

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Hours upon hours upon hours if I just told you all like what this community truly has done

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in my life and all the full circle moments since I

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before I met Jackie and what led me to find Jackie and then even after finding Jackie's community and all the full circle moments after

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That all the things that are still happening. So I just want that to encourage you

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And just you know, I really just hope that just gives you a little bit of a boost that yes

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You're gonna get your husband and get so much more too. Okay, so

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For those of that you just jumped on I had

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everything that I was going to teach on today and then God kind of last-minute was like

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No, you're gonna you're gonna

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you're going to share with them kind of what I've been walking you through and

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It pertains to a lot of the things that they're going through and dating and I'm like really okay, let's roll with it. So

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It's definitely good to be here. But again, so nice to have those of you that are just joining us

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And very new to phase two welcome heart work we still do that in here too as well

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So don't think that you're getting a lot of that yet. All right

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Did anybody sign up for Jackie's book club has anybody been able to do that good awesome

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And everyone's starting to read the book

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How are we liking it?

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It's good. I still have to get my coffee. I told really good

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I'm not able to go tonight because I have to go to a meeting. So my schedules flip-flop today

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So I usually do the 8 p.m. With Ebony instead of daytime with you

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So but yeah, really good. I think for me it really

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Like we were praying this morning online. It really exposed

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a lot of the lies and agreements that I partnered with in the Christian community about

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About dating and marriage, I mean it was it's very humbling

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How many allies that you've agreed with that other people have spoken over you

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For and that's the thing is and people have the good intention and the good heart when they're sharing that

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But it's so interesting how sometimes the enemy can come in and creep in and distort

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What God means to like, you know, he wants to he wants to hear the good things

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But in our trauma and on our own pain and our unhealed areas

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We'll hear something different and we'll start distorting that and so that's kind of one of those

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Little avenues that the enemy can use and so I'm glad that you ladies are getting something out of that book

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I've got mine. I'm coming. So I'm excited to dig in

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I told Bethany the other day I was like, you know, I told my husband I'm like

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I know I don't need this book because I'm not dating

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And of course, he's like I sure hope not

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But I'm like, but I really want to get the wisdom because I know we do

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Oh, I mean, this is what this phase is. It's it's the dating phase, right?

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This is where you ladies are released to go and start dating and you're getting your toes wet or you're either just

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Somebody's just diving in like they're going off the high dive. They're like, yes, let's go and then if you were like me

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I'm like, uh, can I just put like a pinky toe and I'm not quite ready

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and so it took me a little longer, so

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I'm definitely excited to hear that. I'm so glad that y'all are having fun with that. Jackie is a riot. I absolutely love her

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She has like you just have fun with her

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Like you can't not have fun with Jackie like she is a good time

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Let me tell you.

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Okay, so glad that you are doing that.

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If you do not have the book,

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go ahead and make sure you're putting that on order.

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I don't really have any other housekeeping things

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that I can think of right off the top of my head.

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Like I said, God said,

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you're gonna do some other notes today.

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And I was like, okay, I'm gonna roll with it.

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So let me go ahead and pray for us.

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And that might actually settle me into,

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because like I said, I'm kind of like my,

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I'm the mentality, like I'm a planner.

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I have structure.

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And so when that does not follow,

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you'll see me a little discombobulated.

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So that's probably what y'all seeing right now.

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Little insight, when Carla gets a little fluster,

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this is what you're seeing.

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Oh, heavenly father, I just thank you.

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I thank you for this day.

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I thank you for this time together, Lord.

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I thank you for the pressing.

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I thank you for stretching that you allow for us

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in this community.

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I thank you for the space that you have given us

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to be able to do that.

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I thank you for just the trust and the honesty

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and the vulnerability in this community

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that you just provide wisdom and peace

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and just care and compassion.

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And I just thank you for the opportunity for that, Lord.

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I thank you for the hearts in each and every woman

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on this call today and in listening and replaying,

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here in this community overall.

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Lord, I appreciate all the things that you've done

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through Jackie's ministry and what you've called her to do

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and the connections that you have made

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for so many of us women.

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And I just thank you that we get to have this opportunity

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and this experience to come together

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and to lean on each other, to be vulnerable,

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to be real, to be honest, to get to investigate

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and see those areas where maybe we were seeing

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distorted images of what it is

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that you were wanting to share with us,

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that in those thoughts where maybe the enemy

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has distorted things and confused us,

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that we get this opportunity to come together

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as the body of Christ and we get to lean on each other

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and we get to lean on you most importantly.

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We get to come to you together

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and that you can speak in us and through us

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and use each and every one of us

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and each and every one of the stories

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that is represented here on this call today.

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Lord, I thank you for that.

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What's so special about this community

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is the connections and the stories

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that you have written for each individual.

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You've written their story tailored just for them,

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but you use their story to speak to all.

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I thank you for that, Lord.

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And I just ask that you come and be with us

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in this moment today.

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Just give us your word, Lord.

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Give us what it is that you wanna speak to us.

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And we're gonna just lay this call in your hands, Lord.

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And I just thank you for that.

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I'm expectant of what you wanna do here

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in us and through us and I'm excited.

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So in Jesus' name we pray, amen.

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All right, ladies, do we have any other joiners?

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No, I don't think so.

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I think everybody's here.

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That started the prayer with me.

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Okay, so I was looking through our app.

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And so ladies, if you're not posting in the app,

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I really do wanna encourage you to do so, okay?

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That's where, like I said, like when I was praying here,

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your love story isn't just for you.

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We're brought to this community,

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like we are created to do community

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and to do life with each other.

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And so I know at times it gets really challenging

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to open up and be vulnerable,

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especially when we've been hurt in community

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or having like, we've been hurt in relationship

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and there's a lot of fear that surfaces in there.

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And so I know that can be a challenge.

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And so I just want you to spend some time

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pressing into that a little bit.

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You know, we're not asking you to spill all the tea, okay?

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We're asking you to partner with God

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and He reveal to you what He wants you to share, okay?

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It doesn't have to be more than you're willing to share.

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He's got you and He's gonna direct you

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and give you peace about what it is about your story

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that He wants you to share.

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wants you to share in this community.

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But I read through a lot of the comments,

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and sometimes it does take me a little longer

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to reply to you because I really do intentionally

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spend time with the Lord

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to really hear what it is that he's wanting to speak.

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And so sometimes I have to kind of take a moment

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to make sure that I'm separating parla

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from what God is really wanting me to speak, okay?

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And so, but when I get the opportunity to really,

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like there's days where I just dive in

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and I will just sit there and pray and journal

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and just ask the Lord, like, you know,

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read through y'all's, you know, post

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and your replies and your comments.

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And I'm like, you know, Lord reveal to me

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what it is that, you know, is happening in their hearts

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and what it is that you want them to know.

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And I was doing that this morning

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and I started seeing this,

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the same thing kind of popping up.

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what I've really been focused on

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over the last several weeks in our teachings.

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I'm not gonna teach about that

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cause we've already taught about that.

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I literally had other stuff like planned.

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Cause I'm like, no, like we've already,

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we've already gone over this

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so I'm gonna be a broken record.

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And literally like right before I jumped on,

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he's like, no, like this is really what I want them to hear.

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Like, this is really important, Carla.

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Like this is what's happening in their hearts.

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And he's like, Carla, this is happening in your heart too.

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And so there's a bigger message here

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and it is going to really benefit things in their dating

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because this is where a lot of this gets revealed.

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He's like, Carla, remember a lot of this got revealed

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to you in dating and it's where you started the process.

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And he's like, and now you're in marriage

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and blending your life and your family

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and doing this for three years.

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that's part of the process.

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He's like, so this process is important

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because it's going to carry into what promises

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he has for you in marriage as well.

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And I'm like, okay, Lord, whatever you wanna do,

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whatever you wanna do, right?

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And so, you know, a lot of the questions

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that we keep asking why they all sound different,

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they are actually very, very similar

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in the sense that the questions at the core

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are still wanting certainty

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before there's enough information.

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Okay, so if you've been on the calls

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over the last couple of weeks,

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if you've listened to any of the replays,

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you will see that that's kind of where, you know,

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God is kind of just sitting us there.

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So I'm like, okay, God, for whatever reason.

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So I really do think today he wants us to just sit

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in a space and really learn to lean in and trust him

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more than our need to know and understand things, okay?

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And so I want us to focus on choosing

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super natural surrender every single day.

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And God brought me to remembering, you know,

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that's when you all first joined this community,

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in phase one, and you opened up that heartwork book,

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the first step was supernatural surrender.

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Ladies, that is an everyday thing, okay?

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So really want you to focus on that today

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and every day moving forward.

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I want us to stay open and curious, okay?

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Especially in this dating season,

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allow God to reveal what it is that you need to know

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when you need to know it.

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That's huge, and I don't think that's just for dating.

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I don't know about you all,

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but that's always been a theme in my life.

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If you're like me and just have this kind of tendency

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to kind of have some anxiousness,

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where like, and I'm a planner,

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like I just need to know so I'm prepared.

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So I just really want us to sit with that.

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Like, that's a good, like, especially in that dating,

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like, we want to know all the answers.

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We want to know, is this the guy for us?

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Is this, you know, what's this gonna look like

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if I date him?

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enter a relationship with this person, am I going to end up hurt? If I choose this person,

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am I going to regret my choice? Is this going to be the right choice? Yes, Cynthia's like,

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is this the right choice? Because a lot of us, maybe we had bad pickers in the past. I know I

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did. I had a really bad picker, y'all. I came from a really unhealthy, I had a lot of really

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unhealthy experiences and a lot of pain. I had a lot of guards up, a lot of trauma, a lot of hurt.

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I was operating in that often. Because of that, I just wasn't picking very well.

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I was allowing fear to dictate my choices instead of leaning on God to reveal to me

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what the next step was. That's another thing, just keeping the Lord at the center

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is so important. Ladies, you could be a brand new believer, you can be a believer

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your whole life. That can be a struggle for all of us, no matter what season you are in.

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Because the enemy is after each and every one of us that believe in our Heavenly Father.

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He is coming to kill, steal, and destroy. You could have 30, 40, 50 years of

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ministry and all these things, and guess what? You're not immune to it. You're not immune to,

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you're not immune to, at times, getting a little bit off path, off course, distracted,

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not centered on the Lord, just as much as you are if you're a brand new believer.

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You're like, well, I'm brand new. I don't know how this is done. That was kind of me in the very

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beginning when I first found the Lord, y'all. I did not grow up in a home that was centered on

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the Lord. I was like, this is brand new. I don't know what I'm doing. Sometimes that was like

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nice because I felt like I could give myself a little more grace, but now as I grow and I mature

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in that, I'm like, well, I don't know if I can use that anymore. I just want us to keep that open

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heart. I'm going to touch on a couple of things, and then I'm going to share some things that God

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has been speaking to me, and I'm going to open up for your questions as well. We'll just see

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where Holy Spirit leads us. Sound like a plan? Okay. The first thing is, and again, a lot of

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this is probably going to be refreshers over the last couple of weeks because a lot of these things

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I feel like we've discussed. That's why I was kind of telling God, but I'm like, we already

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taught on this a couple of weeks ago. We don't need to do this again. He's like, no, you're doing

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this. I'm like, okay, fine. Dating is designed, number one, dating is designed just to reveal

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information. Okay. I feel like that one is definitely a very repetitive thing that we have

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been sharing, especially in phase two. You will hear it all throughout phase two.

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You know, dating is this, level two dating is discovery dating. Okay. We talked a lot last

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week about how we often are coming emotionally in at a level three when really we need to still

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be at a level two emotional level, that curiosity stage, you know, you know, we're just here to,

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y'all, this is, this is when that Jesus take the wheel song comes up all the time for me.

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Like, okay, Jesus, you are in the driver's seat of this dating experience.

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I had to do that a lot when I was dating in this community,

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put him in the driver's seat because your role is simply to observe, to gather information. I mean,

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think about it like way back, you know, think about if you're ever going on a road trip when

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you were younger, if you, if you and your families ever took road trips and your parents were the

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ones driving or, you know, the adult was driving, or maybe you went with some friends or a grandparent

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or whatever. And you just got to be in the backseat and do all the fun, like entertain yourself games.

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Okay. Cause I don't think anybody on here is, is young enough where we had electronics.

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Like I was just riding with my kids the other day and like, they're asking, Oh, can I bring

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my switch? Can I bring, and I'm like, yo, we're going like an hour to two hours down the road.

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Like what, like, what are we talking about? I'm sitting here thinking, man, you would not have

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survived. You would not have survived my childhood because we have those little water push games

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in the back, you know, and, and then we're sitting there playing like the, um,

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the license plate games, which actually my kids because I we don't really I don't I don't really let them have a lot of electronics

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They actually now they tap us like they

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Happens like they straight-up hit us in the car

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anytime they see a

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License plate that has a different state on it because we're in Texas and so like I'll get hit and they'll say, Oklahoma

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I'm like what like what are you doing? Like or like they'll hit me and be like, Illinois

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Like that's a new one we don't typically see, Illinois, you know in the state so I want you to think back

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You get to be in the backseat and you can just get to enjoy the ride you get to get to see the scenery

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Like that's what you get to do that's what dating right now is for you

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Just observe take in the information

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Like don't grab the wheel. Jesus has got that

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Stay present observe gather the information

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Trust that God is going to reveal to you what you need to know when you need to know it

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He's gonna reveal what matters most

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The goal is not going to be to figure everything out. It's just to pay attention

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Okay, if we can show up every day in these dates and and when we're talking to people just remember

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Nope, right now. I'm just gathering information

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I'm just collecting information and

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Asking God what are you trying to reveal?

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That's a supernatural surrender posture

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Okay, number two

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Certainty is definitely going to feel safer than curiosity

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So once you think about this ladies

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It's not just in dating maybe it's with your job maybe it's with your living situation

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How often do we just want to know because if we know then then it's all good

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This is me

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you know, I'm

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Blending a family right now and

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We have three kids. They've experienced trauma. My two older kids lost their biological mother

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She passed away

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Six seven years ago. Okay, and so they've they've had a lot

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They've had a lot going on in their life and their teenagers

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So that and that in of itself y'all for any of you that were a teenager

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We all were or have had teenagers you understand like that is just a very challenging season

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it's and it's challenging even for me because I

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To take on teens right away. I thought I was I thought it was a pretty darn good mom and

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who had a lot of trauma and

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So I most certainly clung to this I just need to be certain that these kids are gonna turn out, okay

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They're not gonna hate me. Um

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Wind up in jail. Like they're not gonna like I mean literally like I had so much fear

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around these two kiddos that like their their life to me like I

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Love and cherish like they're my own

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Was fighting oftentimes?

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needing just to know and

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Control the outcomes of everything because if I could control the outcome then I would feel reassured that they were gonna be

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But what I want you ladies to hear is that the root of a lot of that certainty

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It's fear

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The need for certainty

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Is coming from a place of fear number one was that dating is designed for

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Discovery we're just gathering information

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So I want you ladies to think and I want you to this is a moment for us to really get real

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vulnerable honest raw

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Just sit with it for a minute. I really want you to ask

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Holy Spirit to reveal to you

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What is your one biggest fear?

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when it comes to dating and

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You can go ahead and share it in the chat

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I mean, there's lots of different fears

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And you might not you might not just have one you might have a handful of them and that's okay, too

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That's a big one falling for the wrong guy like picking the wrong guy, right

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Getting it wrong choosing the wrong person

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You know

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We might fear oversharing too soon, but Mika, what's that what's that rooted in what's if you overshare too soon then what?

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What's that? What's what's the fear behind the oversharing too soon? There's still something I want you to go deeper there

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The wasting time and getting hurt again. A lot of times people fear having to go back and

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get

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Feel like they're going through that same cycle again

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They're getting hurt then

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What are we fearing wasting time for what's the what's the big fear of that? That's a big one the wasting time

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Rejected yes, that's it. That's a huge one a fear of rejection

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Yes, yes, yes

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So ladies that's where I want you to be thinking as when you have these moments where you feel like you have to just

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know

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because if I know

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But ask yourself am I needing to know because I'm trying to protect myself

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Am I going into self-protection

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Because curiosity is going to ask questions here is going to demand answers

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So if you're coming from I need answers you're probably being driven by fear

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but if you're coming from a place of curiosity and wanting to ask more questions, and you're saying hey, I

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Know what do you what do you mean by that? Like, you know, I'm curious. Do you?

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Is it important to you to be talking three or four times a day with somebody that you?

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Aren't really interested in

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You know, I mean, I'm just throwing that out there. I mean again like there's things that like maybe

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Trigger us or something or that freaks us out

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Or maybe it's not moving fast enough or maybe you know, we're not attracted to them and we're not sure like I just need to know like

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How long do I need to stay and this is a big question that I get Carla?

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How long do I need to be in level two until?

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It's okay to be exclusive with somebody

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That's a big one

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About how long do I need to be in level two until it's okay to be in level two until I'm not attracted to them

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About how long and y'all I wish I could give you an answer, but there really isn't

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I will tell you how how long God tells you

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And make sure that it's God telling you and not fear

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Okay, so that's huge

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Want you ladies to stay curious

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so if you're if

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You are dating someone and there's still some things you're not sure about but there are other things that you do like

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other things are clicking and aligning and

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You're like wow, I

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Like how he is

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Respecting my boundaries. He's thoughtful. He's showing up. He's intentional. He's planning a date. He's doing this

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I'm just not sure

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I'm physically attracted to him

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But I enjoy my time that I'm spending with him because I really like how he's showing up as a man

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This is new for me, maybe I'm not used to guys being intentional

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You're still in that curiosity stage. You don't owe him exclusivity

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You get to stay open and and be learning

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Okay

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but the big part here too is are you staying connected here in our community and

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Discussing this with your coaches and your sisters here so that we can help you navigate and walk through that

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Because ladies I will tell you we will tell you

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when

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You're holding on to something that it's time to let go of it

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and

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Then we're gonna tell you ladies

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Well sounds doesn't sound like anything to throw in the towel just yet just stay curious

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You know, you're not exclusive yet you're not tied to one person, okay

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All right, let's move on to three because this is another one that because I was talking

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a little bit about this the attraction part.

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It's not always going to be fireworks ladies.

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You know attraction does matter like this is the thing that like I think it gets misinterpreted

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when we coach this sometimes it's like well if he's ugly I'm still but he's nice I'm still

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supposed to date him.

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Y'all I before I joined this community I was in a very wounded place I did date someone

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that I was not physically attracted to and I thought because he was funny and everybody

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liked him and like he was like the life of the party but y'all he was he was you know

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he's just he was not attractive I was not attracted to him and I just thought why you

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know but everybody likes this guy but y'all he wasn't treating me well but I kept giving

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him excuses because I thought I had to because well the only reason is because I'm basing

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it off his looks but everybody else likes him so I should like him too.

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Well no I shouldn't have liked him because he really wasn't respectful to me.

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He wasn't being considerate he was more about everybody liking him than him being intentional

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to me and honoring me and being respectful to me and holding my boundaries.

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So attraction is important but it's not immediate always.

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I would rather you ladies spend time with someone that's going to pour into you and

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show you what intentional masculine healthy mature attraction looks like with the heart

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then the chemistry the fireworks the passion the physical like you know let's just get

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married quickly so we can have fun you ladies know I'm talking about all right like yes

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that is going to be important as you continue to grow in knowing them but don't think that

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that's going to have to be immediate right out the gate it might take a couple months

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of intentionally getting to know them and seeing how they show up I want you to look

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for compatibility an alignment you know where fireworks sometimes are more about the intensity

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of it is it familiar are you getting a dopamine hit are you being emotionally activated sometimes

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the attraction is emotionally activated by some of our stuff from our past that's not

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healthy because we're responding in some of our old patterns so healthy attraction is

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going to grow through trusting learning to trust somebody and again we're not trusting

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someone right out the gate like there's a little it there's a in the teaching world

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that I'm going back to my days when I was a teacher we used to call it is gradual release

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of responsibility or scaffolding you kind of like you went in with a little bit of like

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okay I'm going to kind of start you off with something and then gradually release some

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something's you we're going to we're going to we're not going to go from zero to a hundred

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with the trust but we're going to have to trust you with little bits and pieces and

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see how you handle little bits of trust first we're going to start off small and then we're

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going to continue to grow that as we continue to get to know know you that's emotional safety

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it's through friendship okay consistency consistency is another one that is y'all you can't have

467
00:34:18.500 --> 00:34:27.780
consistency unless there's time so that consistency is not going to happen if you're trying to

468
00:34:27.780 --> 00:34:34.219
cut and run after one week or two dates but two dates you're like okay like there's some

469
00:34:34.219 --> 00:34:40.620
things I really like about this person I don't think I'm like head over heels y'all I was

470
00:34:40.620 --> 00:34:45.460
getting to know my husband for three weeks before like and I really didn't know if I

471
00:34:45.460 --> 00:34:54.460
necessarily wanted to date him y'all I almost bailed out of our first in-person date because

472
00:34:54.460 --> 00:34:59.340
I was like I just don't know I wasn't sure

473
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:06.280
Like we had a lot of conversations and I'll and you ladies I won't be honest. I didn't do everything correctly. Okay, and

474
00:35:08.560 --> 00:35:09.840
I'll throw some of it

475
00:35:09.840 --> 00:35:15.200
I'll throw some shade at my husband and say some of it was his fault because he was an open book and he overshared way

476
00:35:15.200 --> 00:35:17.200
Too much. I was like and that was another thing

477
00:35:17.200 --> 00:35:23.960
I was like Jackie this man is like over sharing and I don't like and so I was ready to cut and run really quickly

478
00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:28.640
But she's like just go have a date and have fun. I'm like fine

479
00:35:28.680 --> 00:35:32.800
So it's about three weeks that I was like, I just don't know

480
00:35:35.120 --> 00:35:40.280
And then over time and consistency he really did show up

481
00:35:41.360 --> 00:35:42.880
consistently

482
00:35:42.880 --> 00:35:44.640
He was intentional

483
00:35:44.640 --> 00:35:46.040
there was

484
00:35:46.040 --> 00:35:52.800
Something so different about him. It was different for me. And that's why I was a little bit and because it was new and

485
00:35:53.600 --> 00:35:55.200
so

486
00:35:55.200 --> 00:35:57.200
the attraction grew

487
00:35:57.200 --> 00:36:02.480
And it didn't grow right out the gate. It took a little bit of time

488
00:36:03.600 --> 00:36:06.080
Okay, and I had I've had it even

489
00:36:06.640 --> 00:36:13.680
scaled back my talking about that in front of my husband because I've noticed that's like hurt his feelings at times because he was

490
00:36:13.680 --> 00:36:15.680
really insecure and

491
00:36:15.680 --> 00:36:21.760
At times he's like I just thought you were drop-dead gorgeous in that like I don't know why you would choose me

492
00:36:21.760 --> 00:36:26.400
And so I'm like, oh my gosh, like I probably shouldn't share share that right out the gate

493
00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:33.360
and I didn't like really like early early on but you know, I it it goes both ways and

494
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:36.320
in relationships, so

495
00:36:38.240 --> 00:36:41.120
I want you ladies to be asking yourself. I

496
00:36:42.000 --> 00:36:47.840
Don't want you to ask. I don't don't ask yourself. Well, how do I feel about everything right now in this very very moment?

497
00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:50.000
Is it a yes or it's a no, okay

498
00:36:51.040 --> 00:36:53.040
We always say it's a yes until it's a no

499
00:36:53.600 --> 00:36:55.520
so

500
00:36:55.520 --> 00:37:00.160
Go into that war with curiosity and less about needing to know. Is it yes, or is it no?

501
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:08.320
That question is supposed to prompt curiosity not definite. Okay, so instead ask yourself

502
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:11.280
Is there enough?

503
00:37:11.920 --> 00:37:13.920
curiosity

504
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:19.040
And attraction of things I do like to continue to learn more about this person

505
00:37:21.840 --> 00:37:25.680
Do you want to continue to get to know them do you enjoy being around them?

506
00:37:27.200 --> 00:37:29.200
Are your boundaries being honored?

507
00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:32.800
What's going on inside you? Are you?

508
00:37:33.840 --> 00:37:39.280
Responding in a healthy way around this person or are is being around this person kind of

509
00:37:39.600 --> 00:37:45.840
Patterns that are making you a little bit like oh gosh. Oh gosh. Oh gosh. I had a date like that once

510
00:37:46.720 --> 00:37:48.720
this guy was

511
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.280
One he dropped a lot of um

512
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:54.800
He dropped a lot of f-bombs

513
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:57.840
You know and i'm not one of those i'm not one of the I mean

514
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:00.800
I'm not one of those people where

515
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:04.640
People's bad mouths don't offend me. I'm not one of those people

516
00:38:05.600 --> 00:38:09.520
I'm not one of those people where people's bad mouths don't offend me

517
00:38:10.720 --> 00:38:13.680
Like i'm just like whatever, you know, um

518
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:18.640
I don't necessarily want to be around it all the time. I can tell you that much

519
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:21.040
you know, but

520
00:38:21.040 --> 00:38:26.720
That is not gonna be like oh, that's an absolute no for me like but for some people it is and that's that's fine

521
00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:28.640
um

522
00:38:28.640 --> 00:38:31.840
but he was dropping it a lot for me to be like

523
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:39.120
It to notice it because I won't really notice it often like if someone just slips up I won't really notice it

524
00:38:39.680 --> 00:38:41.680
But this guy I noticed it

525
00:38:42.160 --> 00:38:44.160
and i'm like jeez, like

526
00:38:44.560 --> 00:38:46.400
i'm sitting there looking at like

527
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:48.400
the table next to me like

528
00:38:49.200 --> 00:38:53.520
Are they offended by how many f-drums? I have bobsies dropping like whoa

529
00:38:54.240 --> 00:38:57.760
um, and I you know, we asked a lot of questions about you know

530
00:38:58.560 --> 00:39:02.240
How long he lived in because I was living in sarasota he was in st

531
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:05.600
Pete and I said, okay. How long have you been here? Like what you know?

532
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:10.240
What what do you you and some of your friends do like do you know?

533
00:39:10.960 --> 00:39:13.920
He didn't have any of that. He lived he had lived with all these girlfriends

534
00:39:14.080 --> 00:39:18.320
he literally went from living with one girlfriend to another to another and that was another thing that I was like

535
00:39:20.080 --> 00:39:24.160
He sounds like a habitual like i'm just gonna move in with my girlfriend and i'm like i'm not moving in

536
00:39:24.720 --> 00:39:26.720
Like if I become a girlfriend i'm not moving in

537
00:39:27.520 --> 00:39:29.520
And um

538
00:39:29.600 --> 00:39:31.600
We went to a concert and

539
00:39:32.160 --> 00:39:37.040
It was crowded and he would like touch and get close to me because it was a lot of crowd

540
00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:39.860
And I could feel myself get activated

541
00:39:41.200 --> 00:39:43.200
of like oh

542
00:39:43.760 --> 00:39:45.760
This feels

543
00:39:45.760 --> 00:39:47.760
Like i'm being seen

544
00:39:48.560 --> 00:39:53.680
It feels like i'm being accepted. It feels like someone is paying attention to me

545
00:39:54.560 --> 00:39:56.080
And I like it

546
00:39:56.160 --> 00:39:58.160
I mean the guy was very attractive

547
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:00.480
He was a very good looking man

548
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:08.960
And I was like, uh-oh, this isn't good, this is bringing out that part of Carla that wants

549
00:40:08.960 --> 00:40:14.880
the, like, oh, this is nice, okay, you want to grab my hand and like, okay, like, that's

550
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:19.720
where, and I'm like, I'm getting that feminine, like, okay.

551
00:40:19.720 --> 00:40:27.720
And y'all, I came home from that date and I jumped into this community and I shared

552
00:40:27.720 --> 00:40:32.960
it with my sisters, I'm like, y'all, I noticed something about myself.

553
00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:44.680
I could tell how the old me would have been way okay kissing that man on a first date.

554
00:40:44.680 --> 00:40:52.940
I was physically attracted to that man, I was feeling seen, I was feeling special.

555
00:40:52.940 --> 00:41:01.760
But I'm like, ladies, he's dropping F-bombs and he lives with these girlfriends, and my

556
00:41:01.760 --> 00:41:09.100
response is like, well, maybe I should give it a try, no, that's a no, like, because now

557
00:41:09.100 --> 00:41:13.540
I'm sitting there, now I'm having to activate and see, okay, but how am I responding, am

558
00:41:13.540 --> 00:41:15.940
I responding healthy?

559
00:41:15.940 --> 00:41:24.060
So now, instead of looking at the man and trying to pick him apart, I'm reflecting inward

560
00:41:24.060 --> 00:41:35.780
and being like, am I making a good choice, am I acting out of a healed heart or an unhealed

561
00:41:35.780 --> 00:41:41.500
fearful heart, which one am I responding to?

562
00:41:41.500 --> 00:41:47.580
And I had this community and I had my sisters here, and so it was my way of holding myself

563
00:41:47.580 --> 00:41:50.540
accountable.

564
00:41:50.540 --> 00:41:53.100
And guess what?

565
00:41:53.100 --> 00:41:57.460
I think I messaged him like, hey, thanks for the date, I got home safely, because I ended

566
00:41:57.460 --> 00:42:05.700
up driving up to St. Pete because that's where the concert was, and I just thanked him.

567
00:42:05.700 --> 00:42:10.420
He never asked me out again, I didn't tell him I wanted to go out again, he didn't ask

568
00:42:10.420 --> 00:42:16.540
me if I wanted to go out again, I didn't overthink, what if he asked me out again,

569
00:42:16.540 --> 00:42:18.340
what am I going to do?

570
00:42:18.340 --> 00:42:25.580
I was just like, well, I'll be polite and say, hey, thanks for the date, I got home

571
00:42:25.580 --> 00:42:29.260
safe, appreciate it, and then guess what, I'm going to leave it to him, I'm going to

572
00:42:29.260 --> 00:42:34.100
leave it to him to reach out to me and see where, because I'm not sure, because I'm like,

573
00:42:34.100 --> 00:42:39.260
if I trust myself and he reaches out, or I tell him that I want to go on another date,

574
00:42:39.300 --> 00:42:43.300
I'm like, I might be setting myself up for something I don't want to.

575
00:42:43.300 --> 00:42:49.100
And guess what, ladies, I didn't have to worry about having to let him down, or freak myself

576
00:42:49.100 --> 00:42:54.420
out if I was capable of doing it, because guess what, God just never had that guy come

577
00:42:54.420 --> 00:42:57.780
back around.

578
00:42:57.780 --> 00:43:00.300
And I was like, man, I dodged a bullet.

579
00:43:00.300 --> 00:43:04.500
I didn't have to sit there and think, what was wrong with me, why isn't he asking me,

580
00:43:05.060 --> 00:43:13.620
I was just like, Lord, whatever that was, I saw how I was acting, I checked myself,

581
00:43:13.620 --> 00:43:20.300
and I trust that that's all you needed me to see, and I'm done with that.

582
00:43:20.300 --> 00:43:24.900
So make that door stay closed.

583
00:43:24.900 --> 00:43:33.260
Okay, so that's, I hope that helps with some of that attraction stuff, for some reason

584
00:43:33.300 --> 00:43:35.700
I'm not seeing all these things in the chat.

585
00:43:35.700 --> 00:43:38.220
Okay, moving forward.

586
00:43:38.220 --> 00:43:44.180
Another question is that spiritual leadership being revealed through patterns.

587
00:43:44.180 --> 00:43:48.820
Okay, this is a big one.

588
00:43:48.820 --> 00:43:56.020
Because obviously, ladies, you want a believer, you want a man who loves God, like, I'm not

589
00:43:56.020 --> 00:44:03.820
telling you, go get into a relationship with someone that is not, whose heart is not going

590
00:44:03.820 --> 00:44:04.820
for the Lord.

591
00:44:04.820 --> 00:44:07.860
Okay, that is not what I'm saying.

592
00:44:07.860 --> 00:44:16.900
What I'm saying is, you're not going to rush, whether or not and be able to determine if

593
00:44:16.900 --> 00:44:24.820
that man is going to be able to spiritually lead by just a couple moments, by just a couple

594
00:44:24.820 --> 00:44:27.700
dates.

595
00:44:27.700 --> 00:44:32.340
You need to see patterns, not moments.

596
00:44:32.340 --> 00:44:38.220
So a lot of times, like, this is maybe not what you're going to want to hear, ladies.

597
00:44:38.220 --> 00:44:47.820
You may not find out about his ability to spiritually lead until you're in exclusivity,

598
00:44:47.820 --> 00:44:52.620
because you've been dating for several months, then the exclusivity happens.

599
00:44:52.620 --> 00:44:58.460
And then in the exclusivity, the patterns might start really, truly revealing themselves.

600
00:44:58.460 --> 00:44:59.460
And guess what?

601
00:44:59.460 --> 00:44:59.980
You may have.

602
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:04.240
to break up with someone after exclusivity.

603
00:45:04.240 --> 00:45:07.040
We have a lot of people in those type of relationships

604
00:45:07.040 --> 00:45:07.880
that happens.

605
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.920
Believe it or not, we have, we call it SIMBAS.

606
00:45:10.920 --> 00:45:12.200
It's actual thing, it's called

607
00:45:12.200 --> 00:45:13.560
Save Your Marriage Before It Starts.

608
00:45:13.560 --> 00:45:16.280
We have a lot of couples that go in,

609
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:17.840
they're in exclusive relationships,

610
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:21.360
they're thinking and talking about engagement.

611
00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:23.700
They go into that course.

612
00:45:24.560 --> 00:45:27.080
I know Bethany and Brian teach that.

613
00:45:28.080 --> 00:45:29.940
And they realize they are not compatible.

614
00:45:29.940 --> 00:45:31.440
They are not in alignment.

615
00:45:32.520 --> 00:45:34.040
And they break things off.

616
00:45:34.040 --> 00:45:36.640
And I mean, they've been exclusive for a hot minute.

617
00:45:39.600 --> 00:45:41.440
And I don't say that to scare you,

618
00:45:41.440 --> 00:45:45.560
I'm saying that for the reality of this needing to know

619
00:45:45.560 --> 00:45:47.440
whether or not a man is going to spiritually

620
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:48.760
lead right out the gate.

621
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:51.160
Sometimes you're not gonna see that.

622
00:45:54.000 --> 00:45:55.680
What you want to look for,

623
00:45:55.680 --> 00:45:59.520
what can help you look for that in the early stages,

624
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:03.400
the patterns you're looking for, is he teachable?

625
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:08.560
Is he teachable?

626
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:15.360
Is his heart open to being transformed?

627
00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:22.240
Is he hard or is he like bendable?

628
00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:27.960
Does he pursue God consistently?

629
00:46:29.600 --> 00:46:31.040
That doesn't mean necessarily

630
00:46:31.040 --> 00:46:33.040
he's going to church every week, ladies.

631
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:35.400
And just because somebody goes to church every week

632
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:37.520
does not mean they have a relationship with God.

633
00:46:38.680 --> 00:46:41.040
There's a lot of lukewarm Christians out there.

634
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:45.920
There's a lot like,

635
00:46:45.920 --> 00:46:47.800
yeah, I just actually listened to this teaching

636
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:50.800
and it, whoo, God showed it to me.

637
00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:55.800
He's like, Jesus had 12 disciples.

638
00:46:58.680 --> 00:47:03.680
12 close, close disciples were with him every single day.

639
00:47:07.040 --> 00:47:08.960
Yet one of them didn't believe in him.

640
00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:13.640
Betrayed him.

641
00:47:15.840 --> 00:47:17.560
Didn't believe he was Lord.

642
00:47:18.560 --> 00:47:21.560
And he was with him every single day.

643
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:30.440
Judas was with Jesus every single day.

644
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:32.640
So just because they go to church every single week

645
00:47:32.640 --> 00:47:35.600
does not necessarily mean they're following the Lord.

646
00:47:37.560 --> 00:47:41.160
They could just be behind him

647
00:47:41.160 --> 00:47:44.520
and just kind of watching him from a distance here,

648
00:47:44.520 --> 00:47:46.640
kind of just following along with him.

649
00:47:48.560 --> 00:47:49.480
Staying with him every day,

650
00:47:49.480 --> 00:47:51.280
just to kind of see what he's doing.

651
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:53.880
But guess what?

652
00:47:55.080 --> 00:47:59.480
When it's not, when it wasn't paying off for Judas,

653
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:05.360
he went to go get something from it.

654
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:06.400
And he betrayed him.

655
00:48:09.720 --> 00:48:12.480
And then like, so we know the story, right?

656
00:48:13.480 --> 00:48:15.200
I mean, we could go on and on for that.

657
00:48:15.200 --> 00:48:16.880
So I'm just, and again,

658
00:48:17.600 --> 00:48:20.560
I don't share these things to freak anybody out,

659
00:48:20.560 --> 00:48:24.000
but just more so like, you're not gonna know right away.

660
00:48:24.000 --> 00:48:26.240
You're gonna need to see how they show up over time.

661
00:48:26.240 --> 00:48:29.680
So God is gonna reveal to you

662
00:48:29.680 --> 00:48:32.040
and show you how someone's gonna pursue him.

663
00:48:33.080 --> 00:48:34.200
You gotta ask the Lord,

664
00:48:34.200 --> 00:48:36.160
just show me ways that he pursues you.

665
00:48:37.680 --> 00:48:40.320
Is this man taking responsibility for things?

666
00:48:43.600 --> 00:48:45.120
Does he take responsibility?

667
00:48:45.120 --> 00:48:45.960
Does he have kids?

668
00:48:45.960 --> 00:48:47.440
Does he take responsibility for his kids?

669
00:48:47.440 --> 00:48:50.160
Does he take responsibility for his job?

670
00:48:50.160 --> 00:48:53.120
Does he take responsibility for friends and family

671
00:48:53.120 --> 00:48:54.040
that are nearby?

672
00:48:54.040 --> 00:48:56.480
Does it, you know, does he have a home?

673
00:48:56.480 --> 00:48:58.040
Does he take responsibility for that?

674
00:48:58.040 --> 00:49:00.800
Like, what is he responsible for?

675
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:04.560
Is there evidence of fruit?

676
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:07.880
You'll hear Jackie say, let's be fruit inspectors,

677
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:09.640
not gift inspectors.

678
00:49:09.640 --> 00:49:12.520
Just cause someone's sitting there speaking in tongues

679
00:49:12.520 --> 00:49:14.880
doesn't mean they have the fruit of the spirit.

680
00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:19.960
And how does he handle adversary?

681
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:24.960
Ladies, a lot of you in those first couple of dates,

682
00:49:26.240 --> 00:49:27.360
in those first stages,

683
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:31.600
you're not gonna see them in tough moments.

684
00:49:33.200 --> 00:49:35.160
You don't, I mean, let's be real.

685
00:49:35.160 --> 00:49:37.480
How often do we like show our chefs,

686
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:40.760
like our moments with someone that we're dating

687
00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:42.560
until we're like a few months in?

688
00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:44.440
You need to see how they're going to handle

689
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:46.440
like a tough situation.

690
00:49:46.440 --> 00:49:49.600
God was really, really good to me

691
00:49:49.600 --> 00:49:51.080
when I was dating my husband.

692
00:49:52.160 --> 00:49:57.160
Because I just wanted to be friends with him

693
00:49:57.800 --> 00:49:58.600
on one day.

694
00:49:58.600 --> 00:49:59.680
Cause I thought

695
00:49:59.680 --> 00:50:03.240
without him, we don't understand one another.

696
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:03.400
I had to see my husband handle a situation

697
00:50:03.240 --> 00:50:07.440
I just wanted to be friends with my husband.

698
00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:05.600
that I would have freaked out about.

699
00:50:07.100 --> 00:50:10.840
And I was very impressed about how he didn't respond

700
00:50:07.440 --> 00:50:10.280
So I'm like, Oh, maybe I should tell you

701
00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:12.800
the way that I would have responded.

702
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:14.240
He got his car towed.

703
00:50:14.240 --> 00:50:19.240
Now, he lived in Texas and I was in Florida.

704
00:50:20.600 --> 00:50:23.400
And so, he had a rental car.

705
00:50:24.560 --> 00:50:28.280
And so, he was stuck and had gotten towed.

706
00:50:28.280 --> 00:50:29.760
And I'm sitting here thinking,

707
00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:31.200
well, you can't stay here.

708
00:50:34.960 --> 00:50:35.800
Sorry.

709
00:50:36.600 --> 00:50:39.720
And he didn't freak out.

710
00:50:39.720 --> 00:50:41.840
He just handled it.

711
00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:44.520
He took care of what he needed to take care of.

712
00:50:44.520 --> 00:50:47.800
It didn't faze him whatsoever.

713
00:50:47.800 --> 00:50:52.240
And I'm like, I would have been a hot mess.

714
00:50:52.240 --> 00:50:55.080
I would have had probably a full-blown panic attack.

715
00:50:55.080 --> 00:50:56.000
I'm not from here.

716
00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:57.600
That was a rental car.

717
00:50:57.600 --> 00:50:58.440
It's towed.

718
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:00.760
What am I supposed to do?

719
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:04.080
I would have lost my mind, right?

720
00:51:04.080 --> 00:51:07.000
And so, seeing my husband,

721
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:08.000
at the time, he wasn't my husband,

722
00:51:08.000 --> 00:51:12.600
but seeing him in that moment of a tough situation

723
00:51:12.600 --> 00:51:15.120
and how he handled and composed himself,

724
00:51:16.320 --> 00:51:19.320
I was like, dang, that's attractive.

725
00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:23.480
I mean, I was like, you're not staying with me,

726
00:51:23.480 --> 00:51:26.520
but if I wasn't a believer,

727
00:51:26.520 --> 00:51:28.800
I probably would have invited you into my house.

728
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:33.800
Like, that wasn't gonna happen, but yes.

729
00:51:34.880 --> 00:51:39.200
That was very, like, I could see such fruit in him.

730
00:51:40.680 --> 00:51:45.680
He handled himself with so much masculinity and maturity

731
00:51:47.560 --> 00:51:50.080
that I was like, well, that's what I wanna see.

732
00:51:51.720 --> 00:51:54.160
So, those are the things that you're looking at.

733
00:51:54.760 --> 00:51:56.960
When we're sitting here thinking,

734
00:51:56.960 --> 00:51:59.440
well, I don't know if this man's gonna spiritually lead me,

735
00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:01.760
well, we're not gonna necessarily know that

736
00:52:01.760 --> 00:52:04.960
right out the gate because we're in level two.

737
00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:08.400
Like, that's a big order

738
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:11.440
because when we're asking for a man to be a spiritual leader,

739
00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:13.240
that's a husband level.

740
00:52:14.520 --> 00:52:16.520
And if we're in level two,

741
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:19.800
like, we just don't know what that looks like quite yet

742
00:52:19.800 --> 00:52:21.720
because we need to see what their patterns are.

743
00:52:21.720 --> 00:52:25.440
We need to see how do they handle themselves

744
00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:28.560
in other situations, not just situations with me.

745
00:52:28.560 --> 00:52:31.120
I need to see how they're handling situations

746
00:52:31.120 --> 00:52:32.200
with other people.

747
00:52:33.680 --> 00:52:36.480
And so, the last thing I wanna get into,

748
00:52:36.480 --> 00:52:38.640
and this is kind of what God was really, really showing me,

749
00:52:38.640 --> 00:52:42.720
and you might've seen my post in our community,

750
00:52:42.720 --> 00:52:44.800
and I'm gonna add a little bit to that

751
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:47.480
because it had some things to do

752
00:52:47.480 --> 00:52:48.680
with what I thought was dating,

753
00:52:48.680 --> 00:52:52.000
but there's other things that I had processed through

754
00:52:52.000 --> 00:52:53.160
when I had posted that,

755
00:52:54.160 --> 00:52:57.920
is this, you know,

756
00:52:57.920 --> 00:53:02.080
what is God asking you to trust in this process?

757
00:53:04.720 --> 00:53:06.320
You know, God isn't withholding.

758
00:53:08.160 --> 00:53:10.360
He's inviting us to trust Him deeper

759
00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:15.920
because even if we had the answer,

760
00:53:18.680 --> 00:53:20.040
would you still seek Him?

761
00:53:22.560 --> 00:53:25.560
Would you still seek the Lord if He gave you the answer?

762
00:53:25.560 --> 00:53:29.080
Because would it look like the answer that you'd want?

763
00:53:29.080 --> 00:53:31.720
Or would it look like an answer that looked too hard?

764
00:53:39.080 --> 00:53:43.920
Trusting God's timing is not always an easy thing.

765
00:53:44.680 --> 00:53:47.280
And like what I shared, ladies,

766
00:53:47.280 --> 00:53:50.520
is, you know, it was about like nothing being wasted, right?

767
00:53:51.680 --> 00:53:53.680
I have it pinned to the app.

768
00:53:56.000 --> 00:53:59.920
It really is, you know,

769
00:53:59.920 --> 00:54:01.720
not needing to know about where it's going.

770
00:54:01.720 --> 00:54:04.800
It's just be like, God, what are you revealing?

771
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:08.960
And being okay that you can still have peace

772
00:54:08.960 --> 00:54:10.680
without having the answers.

773
00:54:11.680 --> 00:54:16.160
And so having the answers would be that certainty piece.

774
00:54:16.160 --> 00:54:21.160
And so I want to really encourage you ladies

775
00:54:21.240 --> 00:54:26.240
to begin to release the need for that knowing.

776
00:54:27.560 --> 00:54:29.400
And so this is something that, you know,

777
00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:34.400
when I was praying, this is what God was speaking to me

778
00:54:35.080 --> 00:54:39.000
and what I shared with my whole community,

779
00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:43.120
like on my own social media page,

780
00:54:43.120 --> 00:54:44.720
was that for the last couple of months,

781
00:54:44.720 --> 00:54:47.440
God's just really been bringing me back

782
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:48.960
to this word release.

783
00:54:48.960 --> 00:54:51.680
Like He spoke this word over me

784
00:54:51.680 --> 00:54:53.200
in the middle of the night one night

785
00:54:53.200 --> 00:54:57.240
when I was just, I was struggling spiritually.

786
00:54:57.240 --> 00:54:58.360
Like I couldn't sleep.

787
00:54:58.360 --> 00:54:59.760
I was tossing and turning.

788
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:01.740
felt like I had a lot of anxiety,

789
00:55:01.740 --> 00:55:04.160
like I just felt all this pressure.

790
00:55:04.160 --> 00:55:08.720
And I could just hear God say, release, release.

791
00:55:08.720 --> 00:55:10.160
And I'm like, but what am I releasing?

792
00:55:10.160 --> 00:55:13.160
Like, I don't know how to just release this, right?

793
00:55:13.160 --> 00:55:15.560
And it's like, he's like,

794
00:55:15.560 --> 00:55:19.240
well, you need to release the need to know.

795
00:55:19.240 --> 00:55:20.980
You need to release the need for control

796
00:55:20.980 --> 00:55:24.260
and you need to release certainty.

797
00:55:25.260 --> 00:55:30.020
And, you know, I would love to say that I got that word

798
00:55:30.020 --> 00:55:33.500
and I immediately felt so much peace, but I didn't.

799
00:55:33.500 --> 00:55:35.020
I knew God was speaking to me,

800
00:55:35.020 --> 00:55:37.020
but I didn't know what that looked like.

801
00:55:39.320 --> 00:55:41.260
And over time, over these last couple of months,

802
00:55:41.260 --> 00:55:43.700
what he's been revealing is that

803
00:55:43.700 --> 00:55:46.540
peace doesn't come after we get the answer.

804
00:55:47.900 --> 00:55:49.900
It doesn't come with knowing everything.

805
00:55:49.900 --> 00:55:54.900
It doesn't, like we were never meant

806
00:55:55.020 --> 00:55:57.420
to carry all the knowledge.

807
00:55:58.420 --> 00:56:01.700
And he reminded me of the garden.

808
00:56:04.100 --> 00:56:07.220
It's like Adam and Eve were never supposed to

809
00:56:07.220 --> 00:56:09.240
eat from the tree of knowledge.

810
00:56:09.240 --> 00:56:10.760
That wasn't for them.

811
00:56:12.680 --> 00:56:16.620
And so he's like, you were never meant

812
00:56:16.620 --> 00:56:19.360
to carry all of the knowledge

813
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:21.360
because it belongs to me.

814
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:24.640
All that knowledge belongs to God.

815
00:56:24.640 --> 00:56:27.240
And so it's the peace it's finding is

816
00:56:27.240 --> 00:56:30.140
trusting the one who does have all the answers.

817
00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:34.060
That he's not always withholding us from it.

818
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:38.640
He's actually inviting us into something so deeper

819
00:56:38.640 --> 00:56:40.160
and more intimate with him

820
00:56:40.160 --> 00:56:41.960
and it's putting him in the center.

821
00:56:43.480 --> 00:56:47.800
And when we focus on the answers,

822
00:56:47.800 --> 00:56:49.760
we actually miss out on the adventure

823
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:51.480
that we get to go on with him.

824
00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:54.520
We don't get to step, if we already knew,

825
00:56:54.520 --> 00:56:56.000
we don't get to step in that day

826
00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:57.200
not knowing what's gonna happen

827
00:56:57.200 --> 00:56:59.240
and get to go on that adventure with him.

828
00:57:00.440 --> 00:57:02.160
We don't know what that looks like.

829
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:05.840
But what if God's like, you know what?

830
00:57:07.520 --> 00:57:11.600
I'm gonna give you the answers when you need to know them

831
00:57:11.600 --> 00:57:14.760
because then that's when you're gonna know it's from me.

832
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:17.600
So if you have the peace

833
00:57:18.720 --> 00:57:21.120
that you don't need to know right out the gate

834
00:57:22.080 --> 00:57:24.120
and there's just enough for you to stay,

835
00:57:24.120 --> 00:57:26.040
like I'm giving you like, hey,

836
00:57:26.040 --> 00:57:28.440
there's enough curiosity in this situation

837
00:57:28.440 --> 00:57:31.960
and with this date to continue.

838
00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:36.760
And he might reveal to you what he's revealing to you

839
00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:39.560
and what you're responding to could be fear.

840
00:57:39.560 --> 00:57:41.840
And he might be inviting you into that space with him.

841
00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:45.120
Carla, come to me with your fear.

842
00:57:45.120 --> 00:57:47.440
Let's walk through this.

843
00:57:47.440 --> 00:57:49.320
I'm not gonna remove the fear from you right now

844
00:57:49.320 --> 00:57:52.120
by telling you the answer that you think you wanna know.

845
00:57:53.280 --> 00:57:57.200
I'm gonna get to the root of that fear, Carla,

846
00:57:57.200 --> 00:57:59.080
and I'm gonna start healing that.

847
00:58:00.520 --> 00:58:02.280
Right now, you just need to stay curious

848
00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:04.000
and you need to stay open.

849
00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:06.800
And when it's time, I will let you know

850
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:08.640
that I'm gonna be there for you.

851
00:58:09.040 --> 00:58:11.560
And when it's time, I will let you know

852
00:58:12.640 --> 00:58:15.600
what you need to know when you need to know it.

853
00:58:19.160 --> 00:58:21.440
It's about seeking his kingdom first.

854
00:58:26.440 --> 00:58:28.160
Trusting before understanding.

855
00:58:31.240 --> 00:58:34.040
Resting before you have the certainty.

856
00:58:39.640 --> 00:58:41.240
So a lot of these questions, ladies,

857
00:58:41.240 --> 00:58:43.440
I know we want the answers.

858
00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.680
We want the, you know, Carla, Ebony,

859
00:58:46.680 --> 00:58:47.960
tell me what I need to do.

860
00:58:47.960 --> 00:58:48.800
Like, what's this?

861
00:58:48.800 --> 00:58:49.880
What's it look like this?

862
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:52.000
I would love to be able to say,

863
00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:55.640
oh, like Karen, Cynthia,

864
00:58:55.640 --> 00:58:58.000
like I have all the answers for you.

865
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:00.240
God's giving me the answers to give to you.

866
00:59:01.840 --> 00:59:02.840
Then I would turn around and be like,

867
00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:05.360
does God have answers to my questions?

868
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:06.600
Will you give those to me?

869
00:59:06.600 --> 00:59:08.240
It doesn't work that way, though.

870
00:59:09.600 --> 00:59:10.440
It doesn't.

871
00:59:10.440 --> 00:59:14.200
It really is about sitting in a peace

872
00:59:14.200 --> 00:59:17.600
without having the understanding.

873
00:59:20.200 --> 00:59:22.800
He's not keeping anything from you.

874
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:26.200
He's inviting you to trust him more.

875
00:59:28.600 --> 00:59:29.600
We want the details.

876
00:59:29.600 --> 00:59:30.600
We want the timeline.

877
00:59:30.600 --> 00:59:32.200
We want the why.

878
00:59:32.200 --> 00:59:34.600
Because we think if we trust him,

879
00:59:34.600 --> 00:59:35.600
why?

880
00:59:35.600 --> 00:59:37.920
Because we think if we have it, we're gonna rest.

881
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:41.760
But honestly, how often have we ever really gotten rest

882
00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:44.200
and peace from knowing the answers?

883
00:59:44.200 --> 00:59:45.040
I don't know about you all,

884
00:59:45.040 --> 00:59:47.560
but typically I just get more questions.

885
00:59:49.760 --> 00:59:54.760
Or project more things onto something.

886
00:59:56.680 --> 00:59:58.640
Because I'm now like, well, does it mean this?

887
00:59:58.640 --> 00:59:59.680
Does it mean that?

888
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:10.120
what if we stopped and we sought God and said okay maybe it's not about needing

889
01:00:10.120 --> 01:00:14.440
to know where the person is that I'm dating and know more about them but God

890
01:00:14.440 --> 01:00:17.200
what are you revealing about me what are you trying to show me what are you

891
01:00:17.200 --> 01:00:21.680
trying to teach me what are you trying to show me am I holding on to something

892
01:00:21.680 --> 01:00:29.440
that you're asking me to release is there a fear that this is rooted in that

893
01:00:29.440 --> 01:00:33.880
you're highlighting to me that I need to let go of

894
01:00:35.200 --> 01:00:42.720
so I would love love love to have all those answers for you ladies and we can

895
01:00:42.720 --> 01:00:49.120
give you like the wisdom we can give you you know we can give you some sound

896
01:00:49.120 --> 01:00:59.760
advice and there are times we do and women in our community absorb that

897
01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:05.160
wisdom and they're they're partnering with the Lord in that and guess what

898
01:01:05.160 --> 01:01:15.280
they they get breakthrough like it happens I did that I also did the times

899
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:19.600
when I asked for wisdom and I asked for you know answers and I'd get something

900
01:01:19.600 --> 01:01:27.160
and guess what I'd get the wisdom and it wasn't the answer that I wanted and I

901
01:01:27.160 --> 01:01:31.800
didn't listen I wouldn't always listening to Jackie

902
01:01:31.800 --> 01:01:40.520
believe it or not and I still did it my way and I kind of had to go through some

903
01:01:40.520 --> 01:01:44.680
cycles and I had to kind of do some of the things that like repeatedly kept

904
01:01:44.680 --> 01:01:51.040
showing me a pattern that was in me and I was like oh so there are times that

905
01:01:51.040 --> 01:01:53.720
we're gonna give you the wisdom and we're gonna give you the answers and you

906
01:01:53.720 --> 01:01:58.240
know ladies we will see that sometimes you won't want to hear it and that's

907
01:01:58.240 --> 01:02:03.440
okay you're on your own you're on your journey with the Lord the Lord's got you

908
01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:09.240
the Lord had to do that with me like he took me through it because I'm very

909
01:02:09.240 --> 01:02:15.440
stubborn believe it or not and I would love to give you the answers that you

910
01:02:15.440 --> 01:02:20.480
want to hear and sometimes I do sometimes we're gonna give you the

911
01:02:20.480 --> 01:02:26.040
answers that you need to hear because that's what God is trying to reveal to

912
01:02:26.040 --> 01:02:34.320
you and God is gonna give you the grace we're gonna give you the grace and we do

913
01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:37.680
that because we've been there

914
01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:44.640
got lots of hands up I want to make sure that we have time for those there we've

915
01:02:44.640 --> 01:02:50.560
got five of them so it's gonna be good today I know this was probably heavy

916
01:02:50.560 --> 01:02:56.320
like I said I I thought I had something prepared and God kind of gave me

917
01:02:56.320 --> 01:02:58.960
something last minute he's like no this is what you're gonna do and I'm like

918
01:02:58.960 --> 01:03:03.760
whoa okay we're just gonna pull some things that I have and we're gonna go

919
01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:10.560
with it so let's start okay Laura I'm gonna start with you okay I got six

920
01:03:10.560 --> 01:03:15.040
hands now so we got to be quick six hands the Laura I know some of your

921
01:03:15.040 --> 01:03:19.120
stuff so don't don't fill me in with all of the details but let's get straight

922
01:03:19.120 --> 01:03:26.320
to the question and we'll go from there okay um yeah I don't know if you saw the

923
01:03:26.320 --> 01:03:30.840
post that I did last night or whatever in the app I did yeah okay yeah cuz I

924
01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:35.040
haven't had a chance to look and see but um yeah so it's mainly about that um I

925
01:03:35.040 --> 01:03:40.200
haven't had a chance to have a conversation with him about okay either

926
01:03:40.200 --> 01:03:45.840
of those two issues or whatever it's like literally like I had a crazy

927
01:03:45.840 --> 01:03:50.720
Wednesday and then I went out on Thursday and yeah I was really busy I

928
01:03:50.720 --> 01:03:55.840
was at a conference just to fill the ladies in is and kind of do this as

929
01:03:55.840 --> 01:03:59.840
quickly so we can get through more people you were gonna like Abby you got

930
01:03:59.840 --> 01:04:03.920
coaching from Ebony to kind of talk to him about communication right you wanted

931
01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:07.320
to see a little bit more communication but you did not have that conversation

932
01:04:07.320 --> 01:04:13.240
with him instead some other things kind of came up that made you like he shared

933
01:04:13.240 --> 01:04:18.760
with you about how he was probably should have been at church but instead

934
01:04:18.760 --> 01:04:27.520
he was doing something for like a work project is that correct yes yes and so

935
01:04:27.520 --> 01:04:34.000
did you said you haven't seen Ebony's response to that have you no I have not

936
01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:38.320
so Ebony's response and then after I read it my response was gonna be very

937
01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:46.880
similar was what what are what exact I mean we need more detail about what

938
01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:51.680
exactly makes makes you believe that he's not going to be a spiritual leader

939
01:04:51.680 --> 01:04:56.960
was it just because he just said that he wasn't going to church when he should

940
01:04:56.960 --> 01:05:01.640
have been and he was doing something for his job

941
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:04.760
Yeah, it was primarily that.

942
01:05:04.760 --> 01:05:05.760
It was that?

943
01:05:05.760 --> 01:05:08.760
I didn't hear you, I'm sorry.

944
01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:11.760
Yeah, it was primarily that, yeah.

945
01:05:11.760 --> 01:05:12.760
Okay.

946
01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:18.080
So yeah, this is where I'm going to have you slow down, okay?

947
01:05:18.080 --> 01:05:22.440
This is that part, like that was just one moment.

948
01:05:22.440 --> 01:05:27.580
That was not what you're seeing consistently from him.

949
01:05:27.580 --> 01:05:33.540
And so that's where, I don't know if you, when you jumped on, but I talked about looking

950
01:05:33.540 --> 01:05:41.540
for patterns to see if men are teachable, if they are consistent with pursuing the Lord,

951
01:05:41.540 --> 01:05:48.860
if they are being responsible in their life, if there's fruit, how do they handle tough

952
01:05:48.860 --> 01:05:50.660
situations?

953
01:05:50.660 --> 01:05:59.380
Those are going to be better indicators to see how they can lead a wife and a home.

954
01:05:59.380 --> 01:06:01.380
Does that make sense?

955
01:06:01.380 --> 01:06:03.620
Yes, yeah.

956
01:06:03.620 --> 01:06:13.260
So I want you to sit with that, I really want you to, and I can go in and we can respond

957
01:06:13.260 --> 01:06:18.160
a little bit more in depth now that we know that piece, that that's where that was coming

958
01:06:18.160 --> 01:06:27.200
from was the, you know, just that comment that he made about not being at church.

959
01:06:27.200 --> 01:06:39.240
But I'm going to, I'm going to encourage you to kind of sit with some of these fears that

960
01:06:39.240 --> 01:06:48.880
are surfacing because that's what I'm noticing is when it was about the communication and

961
01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:53.440
now it's the church and him like not leading spiritually.

962
01:06:53.440 --> 01:07:04.960
So what, what fears are coming up in you and what are some of the patterns that you're

963
01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:12.240
seeing in yourself that you think God is trying to highlight?

964
01:07:12.240 --> 01:07:14.240
Okay.

965
01:07:14.240 --> 01:07:21.840
That's not the answer you want to hear, is it?

966
01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:29.240
Well I knew like after I like did the post that I was probably like, yeah, like the response

967
01:07:29.240 --> 01:07:33.440
that like I was probably going to get was like to be more curious because I don't really

968
01:07:33.440 --> 01:07:37.960
know exactly like what his church attendance looks like.

969
01:07:37.960 --> 01:07:43.040
So yeah, to maybe just be curious about that or whatever.

970
01:07:43.040 --> 01:07:44.040
Yeah.

971
01:07:44.040 --> 01:07:52.440
What's, but there's, I feel something is, there's something stuck.

972
01:07:52.440 --> 01:07:53.440
There's something.

973
01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:58.000
Well yeah, I think it kind of stems now that you're talking about that from my relationship

974
01:07:58.000 --> 01:07:59.000
with the ex.

975
01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:03.840
So early on, like he had an issue with like his church and I kind of like stepped in and

976
01:08:03.840 --> 01:08:07.360
encouraged him to like go back to church and whatever.

977
01:08:07.360 --> 01:08:12.600
And so I guess I'm just afraid that like, I don't want to be like this person that needs

978
01:08:12.600 --> 01:08:17.399
to like encourage someone to like, to go to church or whatever.

979
01:08:17.399 --> 01:08:19.040
It has to like come from them.

980
01:08:19.040 --> 01:08:25.279
I mean, I can't be like, yeah, saying, okay, let's, let's go or whatever.

981
01:08:25.279 --> 01:08:36.840
So let me ask you, this is going to be a tough question.

982
01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:42.920
Very beginning when you first started getting to know Wade, right.

983
01:08:42.920 --> 01:08:44.080
There was some excitement there.

984
01:08:44.080 --> 01:08:49.560
Remember Greg was telling Wade about you, like you, you, you, there was some interest

985
01:08:49.560 --> 01:08:50.560
there.

986
01:08:50.560 --> 01:08:51.560
There was some excitement with that.

987
01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:52.560
Right.

988
01:08:52.560 --> 01:08:53.560
Right.

989
01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:54.560
Yeah.

990
01:08:54.840 --> 01:08:59.160
So you get, there's a motion there that's excitement.

991
01:08:59.160 --> 01:09:10.120
And now that there's some motion, some forward motion with that, it's getting a bit scary.

992
01:09:10.120 --> 01:09:21.560
And so I want you to stop and spend time with the Lord to say, okay, what, what am

993
01:09:21.560 --> 01:09:32.880
I believing that's keeping me from stepping into more excitement and curiosity that it's

994
01:09:32.880 --> 01:09:40.279
actually holding me and keeping me in a place of fear to not move forward and to not find

995
01:09:40.279 --> 01:09:49.080
more information out and to not, you know, say, okay, God, I need, I need, I need time

996
01:09:49.080 --> 01:09:55.960
for you to, to reveal some things to me because when you're operating in that fear and that

997
01:09:55.960 --> 01:09:59.880
needing to know, and just, I just don't want this to happen.

998
01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:02.620
we're projecting that to happen.

999
01:10:04.060 --> 01:10:06.300
In our brain, we're already playing out

1000
01:10:06.300 --> 01:10:09.740
what are we gonna do if this happens?

1001
01:10:09.740 --> 01:10:11.260
Well, I don't want that to happen,

1002
01:10:11.260 --> 01:10:13.140
so do I need to go ahead and cut out?

1003
01:10:13.140 --> 01:10:17.660
Do I need to find something wrong first

1004
01:10:17.660 --> 01:10:20.740
so that I potentially can save myself

1005
01:10:20.740 --> 01:10:23.180
from something that I don't know is gonna happen?

1006
01:10:25.380 --> 01:10:29.180
Yeah, I think, yeah, my brain goes to like a lot of times,

1007
01:10:29.180 --> 01:10:32.100
like, yeah, even though he's never shown me

1008
01:10:32.100 --> 01:10:34.740
any red flags or everything's been great, whatever.

1009
01:10:34.740 --> 01:10:35.820
Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying.

1010
01:10:35.820 --> 01:10:38.940
We haven't really seen any red flags.

1011
01:10:38.940 --> 01:10:40.260
Yeah. Right, yeah.

1012
01:10:40.260 --> 01:10:43.620
Like, there's been green flags.

1013
01:10:43.620 --> 01:10:45.860
There might be some yellow flags.

1014
01:10:45.860 --> 01:10:50.860
I think the concerns are coming from where your fears.

1015
01:10:54.060 --> 01:10:56.660
It's that needing to look and see

1016
01:10:56.660 --> 01:10:58.940
what is God wanting to heal in your heart?

1017
01:10:58.940 --> 01:11:01.020
What is it that you're believing?

1018
01:11:01.020 --> 01:11:03.100
What still needs to be healed?

1019
01:11:05.060 --> 01:11:07.660
What breakthrough needs to still kind of come there?

1020
01:11:07.660 --> 01:11:10.660
And God is gentle.

1021
01:11:10.660 --> 01:11:12.900
He's not gonna show it to you all at once.

1022
01:11:15.140 --> 01:11:16.060
He doesn't.

1023
01:11:16.060 --> 01:11:18.060
I mean, he's gonna be gentle with that.

1024
01:11:19.460 --> 01:11:22.900
And it sounds like Wade is a safe,

1025
01:11:24.260 --> 01:11:28.380
respectful, honorable, mature man

1026
01:11:28.780 --> 01:11:33.540
to be able to navigate that with in this season.

1027
01:11:34.500 --> 01:11:36.780
Doesn't mean that he's your spirit mate.

1028
01:11:36.780 --> 01:11:38.940
Well, yeah, because I remember like a couple of weeks ago

1029
01:11:38.940 --> 01:11:40.500
when I had the conversation with him

1030
01:11:40.500 --> 01:11:43.860
about whether he was marriage-minded and whatever.

1031
01:11:43.860 --> 01:11:44.700
Right.

1032
01:11:44.700 --> 01:11:46.260
Yeah, and he even told me then,

1033
01:11:46.260 --> 01:11:48.700
because I just prefaced it,

1034
01:11:48.700 --> 01:11:50.020
when I needed to ask him something,

1035
01:11:50.020 --> 01:11:51.900
and he's like, yeah, you can ask me anything and whatever.

1036
01:11:51.900 --> 01:11:54.900
And so he's very open, so yeah.

1037
01:11:54.900 --> 01:11:56.940
And I think that's, you're gonna learn

1038
01:11:56.940 --> 01:12:01.500
if you kind of let some of your walls down a little bit

1039
01:12:01.500 --> 01:12:04.500
and let go of some of this fear

1040
01:12:04.500 --> 01:12:07.860
of I'm gonna make the same mistake,

1041
01:12:07.860 --> 01:12:10.380
or I'm gonna have to do this again.

1042
01:12:10.380 --> 01:12:14.620
You get to take those things that happened in your past,

1043
01:12:14.620 --> 01:12:17.020
and they don't have to be reoccurrences.

1044
01:12:17.020 --> 01:12:20.780
They actually get to be lessons of wisdom.

1045
01:12:22.900 --> 01:12:26.780
You get to use your past as a stepping stone.

1046
01:12:27.900 --> 01:12:28.860
As growth.

1047
01:12:31.340 --> 01:12:34.260
And so you get to see, okay, this is how it was back then,

1048
01:12:34.260 --> 01:12:36.940
but now I'm approaching it in a different way

1049
01:12:36.940 --> 01:12:38.660
because I'm healthier.

1050
01:12:38.660 --> 01:12:41.020
I'm not afraid of anything.

1051
01:12:41.020 --> 01:12:44.340
And so I want you to sit and spend time with the Lord,

1052
01:12:44.340 --> 01:12:49.340
and I want you to begin to really receive that healing

1053
01:12:49.500 --> 01:12:53.620
and that peace over you.

1054
01:12:54.620 --> 01:12:56.340
I think that's important.

1055
01:12:56.340 --> 01:12:57.180
Okay.

1056
01:12:57.180 --> 01:12:58.540
Yeah, I will do that.

1057
01:12:58.540 --> 01:13:01.060
I really think that there's breakthrough,

1058
01:13:01.060 --> 01:13:03.420
and I think that's why you're experiencing this,

1059
01:13:03.420 --> 01:13:07.260
and there is that tug, there's that tension that's there

1060
01:13:07.260 --> 01:13:10.500
because God is about to take you

1061
01:13:12.100 --> 01:13:16.020
through some breakthrough, and it's the invitation.

1062
01:13:18.540 --> 01:13:19.860
Okay?

1063
01:13:19.860 --> 01:13:21.420
Okay.

1064
01:13:21.420 --> 01:13:24.500
Girl, I am proud of you for all,

1065
01:13:24.500 --> 01:13:26.060
you are showing up, ladies.

1066
01:13:27.100 --> 01:13:32.100
I want you to take a little clip from Laura.

1067
01:13:33.100 --> 01:13:37.860
She's been showing up, she's been getting vulnerable.

1068
01:13:37.860 --> 01:13:39.740
This has not been an easy walk.

1069
01:13:39.740 --> 01:13:42.460
It's not easy kind of stepping out into dating,

1070
01:13:42.460 --> 01:13:46.220
especially when we've got past hurts

1071
01:13:46.220 --> 01:13:48.780
from previous marriages.

1072
01:13:48.780 --> 01:13:53.260
That's not an easy, easy thing to do.

1073
01:13:53.260 --> 01:13:54.100
But she-

1074
01:13:54.100 --> 01:13:57.980
Well, yeah, I remember the first date back in April,

1075
01:13:57.980 --> 01:14:00.180
my heart was pounding for hours prior,

1076
01:14:00.180 --> 01:14:03.460
and I was about to text him and cancel or whatever,

1077
01:14:03.460 --> 01:14:05.420
but I was like, no, if I cancel,

1078
01:14:05.420 --> 01:14:07.660
then I'm never gonna move forward, so yeah.

1079
01:14:07.660 --> 01:14:09.540
And so that's what I'm saying.

1080
01:14:09.540 --> 01:14:12.180
She's moving, she's taking those steps forward,

1081
01:14:12.180 --> 01:14:14.900
she's showing up in community, she's posting.

1082
01:14:14.900 --> 01:14:17.580
And here's the thing, she's being real and honest with us

1083
01:14:17.580 --> 01:14:18.940
of where she's at.

1084
01:14:20.740 --> 01:14:24.700
Like, that's all we ask, ladies.

1085
01:14:24.700 --> 01:14:27.620
And we all can relate.

1086
01:14:28.660 --> 01:14:31.260
And you're doing great.

1087
01:14:31.260 --> 01:14:32.860
Like, Laura, you are getting growth.

1088
01:14:32.860 --> 01:14:35.380
Like, God is doing some great things in you.

1089
01:14:35.380 --> 01:14:38.860
So I want you to celebrate how far you've come.

1090
01:14:41.020 --> 01:14:42.780
All right, thank you.

1091
01:14:42.780 --> 01:14:44.460
Yeah, I mean, if it wasn't for this program,

1092
01:14:44.460 --> 01:14:47.380
I'm sure I would not be dating, so yeah.

1093
01:14:48.180 --> 01:14:50.300
Girl, I'd still be single if it wasn't for this program.

1094
01:14:50.300 --> 01:14:51.940
Right, yeah.

1095
01:14:51.940 --> 01:14:52.780
For sure.

1096
01:14:53.700 --> 01:14:54.540
Thank you, Carla.

1097
01:14:54.540 --> 01:14:55.980
All right, Kiernan, how are you?

1098
01:14:55.980 --> 01:14:57.980
Hi, I just want, yay!

1099
01:14:59.060 --> 01:15:00.260
I'm so glad they let me.

1100
01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:03.260
it come in and just, I want to, I'll keep it real short, but I

1101
01:15:03.260 --> 01:15:06.500
wanted to first of all, just say thank you face to face, because

1102
01:15:06.500 --> 01:15:08.900
that's what hurt, you know, my heart was sad. It's like, Oh, I

1103
01:15:08.900 --> 01:15:11.980
didn't know I couldn't come back after I go to phase three in my

1104
01:15:11.980 --> 01:15:15.660
situation. So thank you so much for everything you've done. I

1105
01:15:15.660 --> 01:15:19.020
just wanted to say that. And I'm glad I I'll see you

1106
01:15:19.020 --> 01:15:22.300
in phase three. If you're in the Facebook group, or I don't know,

1107
01:15:22.300 --> 01:15:25.580
do you Facebook group or that we they have the app too. But if

1108
01:15:25.580 --> 01:15:31.200
you post in there, like I do go and check up on you ladies. So

1109
01:15:31.880 --> 01:15:36.480
keep me updated because I do pop in and like respond to some

1110
01:15:38.120 --> 01:15:40.920
great, and I wanted to do something that actually feels a

1111
01:15:40.920 --> 01:15:43.560
little I don't know, I feel a little risky, a little nervous,

1112
01:15:43.560 --> 01:15:46.440
but it's it's something I know God put on my heart just to real

1113
01:15:46.440 --> 01:15:50.280
briefly share something that is just like real strong in my

1114
01:15:50.280 --> 01:15:53.840
heart. And it's a pearl. And it's like something that's a

1115
01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:59.180
big part of God's call on my life. And it's actually and it

1116
01:15:59.220 --> 01:16:02.540
you know, it's probably something that's new to many

1117
01:16:02.540 --> 01:16:09.260
people that I've experienced, you know, anyway, maybe here. So

1118
01:16:09.260 --> 01:16:11.980
just as I share the pearl, I just want to encourage people

1119
01:16:11.980 --> 01:16:18.460
just to listen to understand and, and, and ask God to show

1120
01:16:18.460 --> 01:16:21.660
you whatever because I am depending on the Lord, I think

1121
01:16:21.660 --> 01:16:26.100
is always the bottom line. And, and also just to do whatever

1122
01:16:26.100 --> 01:16:34.400
God shows. So and here's what it is. Actually, basically, the

1123
01:16:34.400 --> 01:16:36.560
whole the whole view that the scriptures teach that the

1124
01:16:36.560 --> 01:16:40.640
husband is the spiritual leader of the wife, I know is a very

1125
01:16:40.640 --> 01:16:44.400
popular view. And I believe that for a long time, I did ask the

1126
01:16:44.400 --> 01:16:47.000
Lord to show me the truth, actually, right when I came to

1127
01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:50.500
the Lord, and had the opportunity like to go to

1128
01:16:50.500 --> 01:16:54.500
seminary and study in the Greek and study real thoroughly and

1129
01:16:54.500 --> 01:16:57.740
talk with a lot of people, and all that. So I just want to

1130
01:16:57.740 --> 01:17:01.140
mention, just so people know that there actually are wrong

1131
01:17:01.140 --> 01:17:05.720
translations that anyone can check, like in Ephesians five.

1132
01:17:06.820 --> 01:17:10.540
And, and there are actually wrong interpretations of the

1133
01:17:10.540 --> 01:17:16.180
word head. Like when in the first century, when it was used

1134
01:17:16.180 --> 01:17:19.920
with in relationship to the body, it actually meant source

1135
01:17:19.920 --> 01:17:24.120
or source of life, not leader, like our modern definition. And

1136
01:17:24.120 --> 01:17:27.880
so I, the the one thing that Jim, I wanted to just leave with

1137
01:17:27.880 --> 01:17:31.240
people is, and I can put something in the chat, you know,

1138
01:17:31.240 --> 01:17:34.040
if anybody wants to follow up, you know, but

1139
01:17:34.520 --> 01:17:36.320
can you post in the, in the app?

1140
01:17:37.080 --> 01:17:42.520
I can do it. Yeah, I think I can access the app. Because that I

1141
01:17:42.520 --> 01:17:43.440
stay in there.

1142
01:17:44.420 --> 01:17:47.140
Oh, okay. I'll put it in the app. Oh,

1143
01:17:48.300 --> 01:17:50.860
yes, that was saying there and then that way, like, because

1144
01:17:50.860 --> 01:17:52.700
then the women when they go on, like, they can always

1145
01:17:52.700 --> 01:17:56.420
screenshot what you what you said. And like, they can keep

1146
01:17:56.420 --> 01:18:00.220
that. Right. So I just like some things that like, like you

1147
01:18:00.220 --> 01:18:03.580
ladies share in the community that like, when you say, like,

1148
01:18:03.980 --> 01:18:06.500
ladies, I'm not screenshotting your questions and all that kind

1149
01:18:06.500 --> 01:18:12.100
of stuff. Like, when their messages to me, like, like,

1150
01:18:12.100 --> 01:18:15.520
ladies will send messages like Carla, thank you for like, I

1151
01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:18.640
keep those because those are special to me, because y'all

1152
01:18:18.640 --> 01:18:22.360
are special to me. Like, being on this journey in this walk

1153
01:18:22.360 --> 01:18:26.760
with y'all is, is a privilege and honor. Like, there's days

1154
01:18:26.760 --> 01:18:31.440
I'm like, why? It's like, why God chose me to do this. I'm

1155
01:18:31.440 --> 01:18:35.320
like, I don't know why, but I'm thankful for it. So those kinds

1156
01:18:35.320 --> 01:18:39.680
of things. So if there's something that like, in that's

1157
01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:41.820
impressing, that you can share that.

1158
01:18:42.220 --> 01:18:45.340
I will, I will do that. Suggestion. That's a great

1159
01:18:45.340 --> 01:18:49.100
suggestion. So thank you. And I just want to affirm to, I'm not

1160
01:18:49.100 --> 01:18:52.280
into the woman being the spiritual leader of the man.

1161
01:18:52.280 --> 01:18:53.180
Like, no.

1162
01:18:54.700 --> 01:18:58.100
It really is like, it's, it is a it's a partnership. It's a

1163
01:18:58.100 --> 01:19:02.180
partnership of the Lord. And it's that it's the treat, like

1164
01:19:02.180 --> 01:19:06.540
it's the trio, like it's husband, wife, and God, like,

1165
01:19:06.840 --> 01:19:12.320
all three, just like Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Um, it's the

1166
01:19:12.320 --> 01:19:14.760
husband and the wife coming together is the perfect image of

1167
01:19:14.760 --> 01:19:19.260
God. And so you need both. Yeah, the other one's not dominating

1168
01:19:19.260 --> 01:19:24.600
over the other it is, it is clearly a coming together. And

1169
01:19:25.740 --> 01:19:29.120
yeah, there's compatibility there. And, and you've been

1170
01:19:29.160 --> 01:19:30.920
where you've been married before, right?

1171
01:19:31.400 --> 01:19:33.960
No, the Lord showed me not to get married.

1172
01:19:34.260 --> 01:19:38.460
No, but to do my hard work for a day. Well, you are well,

1173
01:19:38.460 --> 01:19:44.420
marriage is on you because I do like that. Like, that's where

1174
01:19:44.420 --> 01:19:47.460
like, when you lay like those of you that have been married will

1175
01:19:47.460 --> 01:19:52.820
understand those I was never married until now, where once

1176
01:19:52.820 --> 01:19:57.360
you get married, you do realize like, that's what all of that

1177
01:19:57.360 --> 01:19:58.940
means that that

1178
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:11.200
grafting kind of together. There is a maturity that comes with it. And again, kind of sacrificing

1179
01:20:11.200 --> 01:20:17.120
a self like, you know, yes, your husbands love your wives, like Jesus love the church,

1180
01:20:17.120 --> 01:20:26.080
there is a sacrificial love in that. And then the wife is a submission like to your husband,

1181
01:20:26.960 --> 01:20:33.600
it's beautiful. And we could do a whole teaching on that and get so much input, but

1182
01:20:33.600 --> 01:20:39.200
we don't have time for that. But yeah, like, there really is a beautiful

1183
01:20:40.800 --> 01:20:45.920
thing with marriage that God really truly designed. Like it is divine, and it is absolutely

1184
01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:53.280
wonderful. And yes, scripture can get distorted, y'all. Satan knew the word of God.

1185
01:20:53.920 --> 01:20:59.920
Definitely. Actually, the word submit is not the word submit is not in verse 22 wives submit to

1186
01:20:59.920 --> 01:21:05.280
your husbands and anyone can check it because it's got to the verse before which is submit

1187
01:21:05.280 --> 01:21:13.040
one to another another yet submit one to another way like you like you honor each other like yeah,

1188
01:21:13.040 --> 01:21:20.080
there's just so many we could Yeah, we could dive in and on. I love it. And I love talking about

1189
01:21:20.080 --> 01:21:29.360
this. I love me too. I love like God just revealing just his his nature in all of it. And

1190
01:21:29.360 --> 01:21:35.520
it's it's gorgeous. So yeah, and it actually causes more abuse of women and girls where there's a view

1191
01:21:35.520 --> 01:21:41.680
of one person being the leader, the authority there. I mean, the research is solid across

1192
01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:49.120
the world. So it's important and women are the keepers of the home. Like, my husband knows like

1193
01:21:49.120 --> 01:21:56.240
I'm kind of the one in charge of the home and the kids. He partners with me. I'm not I mean,

1194
01:21:56.240 --> 01:22:02.560
I'm not making all the decisions. We make the decisions together. But I'm the one that like,

1195
01:22:03.280 --> 01:22:10.720
I kind of help organize it so that he can go and provide and support like do the things that he

1196
01:22:10.720 --> 01:22:18.080
needs to do to cover and get like what he needs to do for our family. Like he can't do all the

1197
01:22:18.080 --> 01:22:25.200
things he needs me to be his helpmate. Like, that's what I do. But guess what? I got kids in

1198
01:22:25.200 --> 01:22:32.480
a home that you best believe I know how to lead them. So yeah, okay, that's all I don't want to

1199
01:22:32.480 --> 01:22:38.800
take too much time, but I'll put it in. So it's such an honor. I've loved it. You've done a great

1200
01:22:38.880 --> 01:22:46.000
job. Oh, thanks. Okay, next. All right. Okay, I got Cynthia. See, how are you?

1201
01:22:47.680 --> 01:22:55.040
Hi, I think I'm Susan wanted to go next because she's got to get off. Okay. I'll come after

1202
01:22:55.040 --> 01:23:00.240
Susan. Okay. Thank you, Cynthia, for doing that. Hey, Susan, how are you? Oh, thank you, Cynthia.

1203
01:23:00.240 --> 01:23:06.400
I appreciate that. Did Ebony did Ebony reply? Because I know I just saw today that you had a

1204
01:23:06.400 --> 01:23:10.480
post. Did Ebony reply to you? Or do you still need some? Yeah, she did. She did. I just had

1205
01:23:10.480 --> 01:23:15.280
another quick question. Um, I'm in my bathroom, too. So I gotta hurry up and change and leave.

1206
01:23:15.280 --> 01:23:22.320
But okay, so I had two questions. So I've noticed like, they'll quick on Instagram,

1207
01:23:22.320 --> 01:23:26.240
I've noticed a lot of like men kind of like dating coaches that'll just like pop up.

1208
01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:31.280
And they're all kind of saying something story similar. And I was curious, you guys,

1209
01:23:31.280 --> 01:23:37.520
your perspective. Basically, they're saying, if that man doesn't text you within, you know,

1210
01:23:37.520 --> 01:23:45.440
after 48 hours, text you back, forget about it, like, done block them. Another guy's like,

1211
01:23:45.440 --> 01:23:50.960
that man doesn't text you back after 24 hours. That man hates you. They're all just kind of

1212
01:23:50.960 --> 01:23:56.320
saying similar stuff. That man, he didn't message you back. You could have gotten married in the

1213
01:23:56.320 --> 01:24:00.560
time. Oh, I went to Vegas over the weekend. I met someone else and I eloped. Sir, it's been three

1214
01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:08.560
days. So what is your opinion about that? Okay. Um, it is true. Everyone has their phone

1215
01:24:09.840 --> 01:24:18.240
to me to share is, um, you're gonna see a lot of noise on social media. Yeah.

1216
01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:24.160
Um, there's everybody's got an opinion. Okay.

1217
01:24:24.480 --> 01:24:29.920
Everybody. I mean, I mean, Jackie's on social media, Jackie's on there and sharing about dating.

1218
01:24:29.920 --> 01:24:34.720
I mean, and, and, and there's several, several women dating coaches. There's several men dating

1219
01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:39.520
coaches, several women dating coaches. There is, there's definitely something in the air

1220
01:24:40.960 --> 01:24:48.320
about dating and marriage. Okay. Marriage and family is being attacked and God wants marriage

1221
01:24:48.640 --> 01:24:58.240
and family restored and Satan wants to keep it isolated. Right. So there's going to be a lot

1222
01:24:58.240 --> 01:24:59.840
of voices that are coming in and.

1223
01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:03.000
So it really is about practicing the discernment

1224
01:25:03.000 --> 01:25:08.000
of what is in alignment with God's word and what's not.

1225
01:25:08.720 --> 01:25:13.480
And so my initial thought when you're sharing,

1226
01:25:13.480 --> 01:25:15.560
because I'm literally writing down and processing

1227
01:25:15.560 --> 01:25:17.160
and God's just showing me,

1228
01:25:21.320 --> 01:25:25.180
I would encourage to not listen to the noise.

1229
01:25:26.020 --> 01:25:29.940
Listen to one or two people

1230
01:25:31.100 --> 01:25:34.420
that you hear God's word in

1231
01:25:35.700 --> 01:25:37.400
and those are the ones you follow.

1232
01:25:38.500 --> 01:25:40.740
When you start putting more voices in there,

1233
01:25:42.620 --> 01:25:44.140
that's when it's gonna start getting messy

1234
01:25:44.140 --> 01:25:46.220
and that's when confusion's gonna come in.

1235
01:25:49.380 --> 01:25:51.160
Because my first question is,

1236
01:25:51.160 --> 01:25:54.120
these men coaches, are any of them Christian?

1237
01:25:56.140 --> 01:25:56.980
I don't know.

1238
01:25:56.980 --> 01:25:59.300
And I don't even follow them.

1239
01:25:59.300 --> 01:26:01.620
They just pop up under like,

1240
01:26:01.620 --> 01:26:03.340
like randomly like.

1241
01:26:03.340 --> 01:26:04.900
Well, yeah, and they're gonna pop up

1242
01:26:04.900 --> 01:26:06.340
because that's, I mean, y'all,

1243
01:26:06.340 --> 01:26:08.700
I get that stuff popping up too,

1244
01:26:08.700 --> 01:26:10.620
because I'm a dating coach.

1245
01:26:11.860 --> 01:26:12.940
So guess what?

1246
01:26:12.940 --> 01:26:17.900
My phone's algorithm is going to throw those things at me.

1247
01:26:17.900 --> 01:26:21.060
So if you are in a season of dating

1248
01:26:21.060 --> 01:26:23.220
and learning more about dating, guess what?

1249
01:26:23.220 --> 01:26:27.700
That stuff is going to get thrown in front of you way more.

1250
01:26:27.700 --> 01:26:29.940
And so that's where we have to guard our hearts.

1251
01:26:29.940 --> 01:26:32.980
We have to really make sure that,

1252
01:26:32.980 --> 01:26:36.260
ladies, this is just what the Lord

1253
01:26:36.260 --> 01:26:38.820
is downloading to me right now is,

1254
01:26:40.580 --> 01:26:42.860
it is really important to check anything

1255
01:26:42.860 --> 01:26:46.300
that we hear with God's word.

1256
01:26:50.100 --> 01:26:51.900
I mean, I can't tell you how many times I'm like,

1257
01:26:51.900 --> 01:26:55.060
oh, well, I feel like God told me this.

1258
01:26:55.060 --> 01:26:57.740
And my husband will sometimes check me and be like,

1259
01:26:57.740 --> 01:26:59.900
well, is that what the word of God says?

1260
01:26:59.900 --> 01:27:02.100
Does that come in alignment with the word of God?

1261
01:27:03.700 --> 01:27:08.020
And I'm like, oh, I need to go spend more time with that.

1262
01:27:08.020 --> 01:27:09.580
And sometimes I'm like, no, yeah.

1263
01:27:09.580 --> 01:27:11.260
And then God will show me,

1264
01:27:11.260 --> 01:27:14.140
yep, this is what it looks like.

1265
01:27:14.140 --> 01:27:16.380
And then other times God's like,

1266
01:27:16.380 --> 01:27:18.380
yes, but here's where it got distorted.

1267
01:27:19.380 --> 01:27:21.220
And so that's what I would encourage you, ladies,

1268
01:27:21.220 --> 01:27:25.380
like really be mindful of what you're listening to.

1269
01:27:26.980 --> 01:27:29.660
What are you allowing to enter?

1270
01:27:29.660 --> 01:27:30.580
What are you watching?

1271
01:27:30.580 --> 01:27:32.860
What are you scrolling and seeing?

1272
01:27:32.860 --> 01:27:37.180
How often are we in the word

1273
01:27:39.780 --> 01:27:44.380
and how often are we listening to dating coaches

1274
01:27:44.380 --> 01:27:46.060
and things on social media?

1275
01:27:49.060 --> 01:27:50.580
I had to do that myself.

1276
01:27:50.580 --> 01:27:52.140
Like even with Jackie, there were times

1277
01:27:52.140 --> 01:27:53.820
that I was like probably listening to Jackie

1278
01:27:53.820 --> 01:27:56.100
more than I was going to God.

1279
01:27:56.100 --> 01:27:57.140
And Jackie will tell you,

1280
01:27:57.140 --> 01:28:00.460
no, you need to go check this with the Lord.

1281
01:28:00.460 --> 01:28:02.780
She's not sitting there saying she knows it all.

1282
01:28:02.780 --> 01:28:05.580
I'm not gonna sit there and tell you I have all the answers.

1283
01:28:05.580 --> 01:28:07.700
She doesn't, I don't, Ebony doesn't,

1284
01:28:07.700 --> 01:28:10.100
Bethany doesn't, Renee doesn't.

1285
01:28:10.100 --> 01:28:11.140
We're just vessels.

1286
01:28:13.220 --> 01:28:16.300
You get the opportunity to spend time

1287
01:28:16.300 --> 01:28:19.260
with your heavenly father through Holy Spirit

1288
01:28:19.260 --> 01:28:20.900
and what Jesus has done for you.

1289
01:28:22.100 --> 01:28:27.100
And that's where I would encourage all of you ladies

1290
01:28:27.380 --> 01:28:30.060
spend more time there than anywhere.

1291
01:28:32.380 --> 01:28:34.260
Like, and I have to check myself too

1292
01:28:34.260 --> 01:28:36.060
because I'll do that often.

1293
01:28:36.060 --> 01:28:37.460
Like, oh, wow.

1294
01:28:37.460 --> 01:28:38.820
And then that's when I typically feel

1295
01:28:38.820 --> 01:28:39.820
like a little more stirred up.

1296
01:28:39.820 --> 01:28:43.700
And I'm like, oh, I'll sit and I'll watch sermons.

1297
01:28:44.700 --> 01:28:46.820
And I'm like, oh, oh, and then I'll start feeling

1298
01:28:46.820 --> 01:28:49.140
like this little, like this tension and everything.

1299
01:28:49.140 --> 01:28:52.180
And it's like, I haven't journaled

1300
01:28:52.180 --> 01:28:55.740
and I haven't opened my Bible in three days.

1301
01:28:55.740 --> 01:29:00.740
Yeah, I might be listening to a pastor talk about the word,

1302
01:29:00.740 --> 01:29:03.380
but I need to go open that word.

1303
01:29:04.700 --> 01:29:06.260
I need to go hear from him.

1304
01:29:06.260 --> 01:29:08.780
I'm wired to hear from the Lord.

1305
01:29:08.780 --> 01:29:09.740
We all are.

1306
01:29:10.140 --> 01:29:12.340
Like, can he use pastors and other people

1307
01:29:12.340 --> 01:29:13.660
to speak absolutely?

1308
01:29:13.660 --> 01:29:14.500
But guess what?

1309
01:29:14.500 --> 01:29:17.420
When I spend quiet, intimate time with the Lord

1310
01:29:17.420 --> 01:29:19.860
and I open his word, his word speaks to me.

1311
01:29:22.260 --> 01:29:24.860
And so I get to go and be like, you know what, Lord,

1312
01:29:25.860 --> 01:29:27.940
I'm hearing all these men dating, you know,

1313
01:29:27.940 --> 01:29:29.660
men coaches tell about this.

1314
01:29:29.660 --> 01:29:32.060
Like, Lord, what do you want me to?

1315
01:29:32.060 --> 01:29:33.540
This is how I'm responding to this.

1316
01:29:33.540 --> 01:29:35.620
And I need some wisdom on this, God.

1317
01:29:35.620 --> 01:29:37.100
What do you have for me today?

1318
01:29:37.460 --> 01:29:38.540
And that's what we get to,

1319
01:29:38.540 --> 01:29:40.980
like we get invited into that.

1320
01:29:40.980 --> 01:29:45.980
That would be my opinion on that.

1321
01:29:46.020 --> 01:29:46.860
Don't wait.

1322
01:29:46.860 --> 01:29:47.700
Yeah, that's great.

1323
01:29:47.700 --> 01:29:48.540
That makes sense.

1324
01:29:48.540 --> 01:29:51.220
And also, if you're supposed to pace in the beginning,

1325
01:29:51.220 --> 01:29:52.060
I mean, to be honest,

1326
01:29:52.060 --> 01:29:54.380
I don't really want to talk to someone every day.

1327
01:29:54.380 --> 01:29:57.580
So then that's why I'm like, well, maybe that's why I don't.

1328
01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:02.680
Maybe that's my issue. Like maybe I

1329
01:30:04.640 --> 01:30:06.040
You and

1330
01:30:06.040 --> 01:30:13.240
And Jackie will it will share this too is you are going to recognize that you will know a man is interested in you

1331
01:30:13.240 --> 01:30:15.840
You're not gonna have to second-guess it ladies

1332
01:30:17.160 --> 01:30:22.560
You're gonna know that they're gonna want to spend time. You're not gonna have to go chase after them to go spend time with them

1333
01:30:24.320 --> 01:30:28.160
They are going to to make sure they're in front of you and

1334
01:30:28.560 --> 01:30:29.560
And

1335
01:30:29.560 --> 01:30:35.080
The ones that are constantly wanting to be in front of you. You might have to be like, okay, honey, boy

1336
01:30:35.080 --> 01:30:37.080
I need you to step back and

1337
01:30:37.640 --> 01:30:43.800
That's okay. That doesn't mean that they're a terrible person. It just means they have an opportunity to

1338
01:30:45.480 --> 01:30:47.480
Show you that they respect boundaries

1339
01:30:48.520 --> 01:30:50.040
honor boundaries

1340
01:30:50.040 --> 01:30:55.760
You get to help kind of like hey, I really I'm flattered that you want to you know, speak to me every day

1341
01:30:55.760 --> 01:30:57.760
I got a lot going on and

1342
01:30:57.880 --> 01:31:03.680
you know the way I feel safe and comfortable and open up and getting to know someone is is taking time and

1343
01:31:04.080 --> 01:31:08.120
Seeing how things unfold and so would it be okay with you?

1344
01:31:08.120 --> 01:31:13.180
if maybe we just touched base once every three days there, you know, if you want to get together again

1345
01:31:13.180 --> 01:31:18.740
Like plan a date with me a couple days in advance and and then that way we have some things to talk about on our date

1346
01:31:19.160 --> 01:31:21.160
Would that be okay with you?

1347
01:31:21.600 --> 01:31:25.480
And guess what if it is and he's really interested he don't stick around

1348
01:31:26.400 --> 01:31:28.120
He gonna spend

1349
01:31:28.120 --> 01:31:30.280
whatever time you're willing to give him and

1350
01:31:31.200 --> 01:31:37.480
And yeah, yeah, so doesn't get his ego hurt or get all that's what I'm saying. Sometimes that is like

1351
01:31:38.160 --> 01:31:43.760
The message that they may be trying to share is you do not have to question a man's interest

1352
01:31:44.400 --> 01:31:46.600
That I do like that. I agree. I

1353
01:31:47.280 --> 01:31:49.680
Hadn't I knew my husband was interested in me

1354
01:31:50.640 --> 01:31:52.520
Like

1355
01:31:52.520 --> 01:31:57.880
My husband was all about talking about marriage very very early. I was like, whoa boy like I

1356
01:31:58.440 --> 01:32:02.840
Mean I kind of like like I said, he did not follow a lot of the rules

1357
01:32:02.840 --> 01:32:09.000
I didn't follow all the rules, but he definitely didn't he was open and all the the TMI stuff that I'm like

1358
01:32:09.000 --> 01:32:10.600
I don't need to know about your

1359
01:32:10.600 --> 01:32:17.080
Late wife and the toxic relationship that you had and and how she died and I didn't need to know of that

1360
01:32:17.120 --> 01:32:22.480
I didn't need to know about the kids and what I'm like, no, that's too much information for me

1361
01:32:23.520 --> 01:32:24.920
but I

1362
01:32:24.920 --> 01:32:26.920
Sat and I listened. I

1363
01:32:27.520 --> 01:32:35.240
offered some boundaries and I listened how he had healed and how opened he was to the healing process and

1364
01:32:35.880 --> 01:32:43.860
What he was doing to show up differently and what he learned and grow from it like now I was just like, okay

1365
01:32:44.740 --> 01:32:49.460
You can be on your phone sir, because you work remote from home I can't so

1366
01:32:50.940 --> 01:32:52.940
I'll message you when I get off work

1367
01:32:53.540 --> 01:32:58.540
I'll call you when I get off work or I'm not gonna have time to talk today because I have my son. I

1368
01:33:00.820 --> 01:33:02.620
Have some free time

1369
01:33:02.620 --> 01:33:09.880
Such and such day we can spend an hour on the phone then would that work? Yes. Okay, perfect and he made that time

1370
01:33:10.880 --> 01:33:12.880
Mm-hmm. Yeah

1371
01:33:13.160 --> 01:33:15.160
a lot of men that are

1372
01:33:15.800 --> 01:33:17.800
Seem very passive very unintentional

1373
01:33:18.520 --> 01:33:20.520
Like they want you to call them

1374
01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:25.680
Then they you know, I'll tell them, you know, you can reach me at this time. They missed the call, you know, so

1375
01:33:26.440 --> 01:33:30.600
And that's just showing you that you know, they've been they've probably been hurt

1376
01:33:30.840 --> 01:33:34.380
They've probably gone through some stuff and they haven't maybe done their healing

1377
01:33:34.860 --> 01:33:40.460
It's not your job to sit there and mother them and coach them and teach them and you know

1378
01:33:40.460 --> 01:33:43.740
Help boost their spirit and their ego. It's just okay. Well, um

1379
01:33:45.180 --> 01:33:50.180
You either want to get to know me or you don't you're either willing to work through that stuff or you're not

1380
01:33:50.740 --> 01:33:52.500
It's guess what?

1381
01:33:52.500 --> 01:33:59.220
I'm not gonna do it perfectly in this dating and guess what neither are you sir? So let's just be open to

1382
01:34:00.220 --> 01:34:05.940
Communicating and seeing where this goes and seeing if there's some things in alignment and if there's not

1383
01:34:06.940 --> 01:34:11.060
We don't have to be offended. We don't have to be upset. We just know that there's somebody else out there for us

1384
01:34:12.340 --> 01:34:14.780
And you can that's good. Wish somebody out on their way

1385
01:34:16.460 --> 01:34:19.420
Like I did it a lot of really great guys that

1386
01:34:21.620 --> 01:34:23.540
I'm like that

1387
01:34:23.540 --> 01:34:29.180
Handful of them are married now, like I've seen that they've gotten married one actually was in our program and he just recently got married

1388
01:34:29.500 --> 01:34:32.620
He was a really great guy. He wasn't my guy for sure

1389
01:34:34.860 --> 01:34:37.820
But he really was a really genuine guy not he like

1390
01:34:38.860 --> 01:34:40.740
But he wasn't

1391
01:34:40.740 --> 01:34:42.460
showing all that interest

1392
01:34:42.460 --> 01:34:47.580
He would show a little bit of interest that he had some healing to do and then he met this other girl and I'm like

1393
01:34:47.580 --> 01:34:50.060
Okay, like I'm not I didn't have to get

1394
01:34:51.340 --> 01:34:53.340
sideways about it

1395
01:34:53.700 --> 01:34:55.060
like

1396
01:34:55.060 --> 01:34:57.700
he got to meet his person and and

1397
01:34:58.260 --> 01:35:00.260
God did something

1398
01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:05.680
and him and her and healed them too. Now they're married. God did that with me and my husband

1399
01:35:05.680 --> 01:35:14.320
and things are good. Like there's, we don't have to, to get so tore up.

1400
01:35:16.880 --> 01:35:20.720
Yeah. All right. I'm going to take Cynthia's seat. Was that, that was it, right?

1401
01:35:21.440 --> 01:35:27.280
Well, the other question was just about just real quick, someone at my church. So I matched,

1402
01:35:27.280 --> 01:35:32.480
so I don't even know if I should. Cause didn't you guys say that don't even bother matching

1403
01:35:32.480 --> 01:35:36.560
with guys on Facebook friendship? Because if they can't even say that they're wanting a

1404
01:35:36.560 --> 01:35:43.840
relationship, don't even bother matching. I don't see anything terrible with it. I mean,

1405
01:35:43.840 --> 01:35:48.240
you're just, again, you're into discovery phase. I mean, was it on, were you on Facebook dating

1406
01:35:48.240 --> 01:35:52.960
and the guys and he just wants friendship? There's like, there's two sections of Facebook

1407
01:35:52.960 --> 01:35:58.080
dating. There's like Facebook dating and there's Facebook, like friendship dating,

1408
01:35:58.080 --> 01:36:02.480
kind of, it's not like called. I probably wouldn't mess with people like trying to match

1409
01:36:02.480 --> 01:36:07.760
his friends. So like, I want to say Ebony or Jackie is saying like, those are the avoidant

1410
01:36:07.760 --> 01:36:12.400
guys. Like they are. I wouldn't do that. I just want to be friends. Oh, I'm going to go on a

1411
01:36:12.400 --> 01:36:19.200
dating site, but it's just for friendship. No, we're not doing that. Yeah. So that's what that

1412
01:36:19.200 --> 01:36:25.120
was. Yeah. Like I, I would just friend section was somehow the guy from my church popped up

1413
01:36:25.920 --> 01:36:32.880
and like, I've seen him and I'm like, I'm open-minded. Like, I'm like, I'm kind of attracted.

1414
01:36:32.880 --> 01:36:37.760
Like, he's not bad. Like I could probably get there. Like he's cute. And anything I would,

1415
01:36:37.760 --> 01:36:42.080
instead of doing it, the whole Facebook thing, I'd like straight up go. And again, I, I can be a

1416
01:36:42.080 --> 01:36:49.360
little bit more bold. I'm good. I'm, I got pretty good at dropping hankies that if I saw him at

1417
01:36:49.360 --> 01:36:55.920
church, I'd be like, Hey, strike up a conversation in some way, shape, or form. I'd find something

1418
01:36:55.920 --> 01:37:03.200
clever and then just kind of see what happened. And then just again, pick up the energy and see

1419
01:37:03.200 --> 01:37:07.520
what's happening. Then go from there. If I was going to entertain any of that, it would be an

1420
01:37:07.520 --> 01:37:11.120
in-person thing. Cause I want to see interaction. I'm going to see how they

1421
01:37:11.760 --> 01:37:17.280
respond face to face in person around other people, Michelle, maybe around other, you know,

1422
01:37:17.280 --> 01:37:24.720
that's, that would be me. I wouldn't, I wouldn't do all of the, let me be your Facebook dating

1423
01:37:24.720 --> 01:37:30.000
friend. No, like, I'm going to come up to you and I'm going to really see what, what are you,

1424
01:37:30.000 --> 01:37:35.360
what are you interested in looking for? Like, you know, I'm like, I'm going to get to know you.

1425
01:37:35.360 --> 01:37:40.720
I don't like, I'm not one of those people that I will go up to a lot of strangers. I have opened

1426
01:37:40.720 --> 01:37:48.800
up in my 43 years of just learning to, there's not a stranger on this planet. Like, look,

1427
01:37:49.360 --> 01:37:55.600
if people want to have conversation, I will have conversation with them. That's just how I am. So,

1428
01:37:56.400 --> 01:38:03.200
um, yeah, I wouldn't entertain. Okay. Yeah. Cause it's awkward. That's weird to me.

1429
01:38:03.280 --> 01:38:08.720
It is weird. I didn't know Facebook did that. I'm like, are you kidding? Yeah. And it's awkward

1430
01:38:08.720 --> 01:38:13.200
because now we both matched and no one's saying anything. Like no one's waved. No one said hi.

1431
01:38:13.200 --> 01:38:19.920
It just shows that we matched. And I'm like, uh, and it's, I, I was a, I was a greeter this past

1432
01:38:19.920 --> 01:38:24.640
year at church, like holding a sign or whatever. Welcome. So like, he's come up to me a few times

1433
01:38:24.640 --> 01:38:28.480
and like said like, Hey, good morning, woman of God. And then I like asked him his name,

1434
01:38:28.480 --> 01:38:33.120
but I just feel like, like what you guys say. I mean, if a man is really interested,

1435
01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:38.400
like, yeah, I mean, I would just straight up make it. I mean, I'm, I'm one of those people.

1436
01:38:38.400 --> 01:38:43.840
I can sometimes make things very awkward, but sometimes I like to do that because I like to

1437
01:38:43.840 --> 01:38:49.440
see how people respond to that. And then I met, I met and married a husband that makes

1438
01:38:49.440 --> 01:38:54.000
things very awkward. And then I'm like, Oh my gosh, they don't do that. That's like, you're weird.

1439
01:38:54.000 --> 01:38:59.760
Like it, it shows I'm getting payback for all the times that I've made people feel awkward is

1440
01:38:59.760 --> 01:39:04.720
like, now my husband really does make things awkward. Um, but I would just be like, Hey,

1441
01:39:06.320 --> 01:39:10.960
weren't you on that? Like, did you match me on that? Like, I would say that.

1442
01:39:11.600 --> 01:39:18.080
That's yeah. And I saw him hinge like a few months ago and he did match. And then what's funny is

1443
01:39:18.080 --> 01:39:21.520
now, like, I don't know if he's gotten just discouraged. Did he like, even what he wrote

1444
01:39:21.520 --> 01:39:26.880
on his like profile for the Facebook friendship says like, I don't know. I'm getting pretty

1445
01:39:26.880 --> 01:39:31.920
content lately with just Jesus and me. My life's pretty good, but I don't know. I'm just on here

1446
01:39:31.920 --> 01:39:35.840
because I keep getting a message that I have a secret admirer. So it doesn't even sound like

1447
01:39:35.840 --> 01:39:41.200
he's that intentional. Hmm. I don't know. So I would ask questions about it and just be like,

1448
01:39:41.200 --> 01:39:47.920
okay, I need to know the story behind all of this. Okay. What man is going on Facebook dating

1449
01:39:47.920 --> 01:39:51.680
friends and says they're content. We going to have to have a conversation about that. You're

1450
01:39:51.680 --> 01:39:57.840
going to have to let me know more like, like that's how I would drop a hanky. I mean like,

1451
01:39:57.840 --> 01:39:59.840
you're going to have, we're going to have to go out to coffee.

1452
01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:06.840
And you're gonna have to tell me tell me all your endeavors all your adventures on on this dating

1453
01:40:07.320 --> 01:40:12.340
Okay, like that's how I would just I would make it more fun. I would make it more friendly fun and see

1454
01:40:12.840 --> 01:40:14.840
See how he shows up. I

1455
01:40:15.000 --> 01:40:17.000
Would do it in person though. I wouldn't do this

1456
01:40:17.760 --> 01:40:22.880
You see people in real life. I would I'm always about more of the real life stuff than anything else anyway

1457
01:40:24.600 --> 01:40:26.600
But yeah, if you see him again just

1458
01:40:27.200 --> 01:40:29.360
Pull him out, but in that flirty way

1459
01:40:30.480 --> 01:40:33.260
Okay, when you get to practice that flirting muscle

1460
01:40:33.920 --> 01:40:38.200
Okay. Yeah, like so any of you ladies that want to practice flirting?

1461
01:40:38.920 --> 01:40:41.240
That's what you can do. Okay, and

1462
01:40:42.400 --> 01:40:44.400
We can do that, too

1463
01:40:44.440 --> 01:40:46.440
You're welcome

1464
01:40:46.560 --> 01:40:49.720
We've got to do that too, but we'll coach you on how to flirt. All right

1465
01:40:50.840 --> 01:40:51.600
It's tough

1466
01:40:51.600 --> 01:40:52.280
I mean

1467
01:40:52.280 --> 01:40:58.400
I was I did I wasn't dating for like five or six years after I had my son and I was like I forget how

1468
01:40:58.400 --> 01:40:59.880
to flirt and

1469
01:40:59.880 --> 01:41:04.560
Jackie helped me and a lot of the women can help me learn how to flirt again

1470
01:41:04.560 --> 01:41:07.760
And so that will help you will help you with that

1471
01:41:08.440 --> 01:41:13.640
Alright, I'm gonna go Cynthia. Well, we got Cynthia see and then I got Cynthia cave and then I got Joanne

1472
01:41:14.280 --> 01:41:21.160
Well, I'd like to learn how to flirt because apparently I think I meet I'm having

1473
01:41:21.680 --> 01:41:27.560
Mixed signals and stuff. I'm thinking people men are liking me. I'm having with some of them

1474
01:41:27.560 --> 01:41:33.320
I'm smiling having good conversation, but not able to get them to ask me out. So I

1475
01:41:34.960 --> 01:41:36.960
We're gonna do yeah

1476
01:41:37.480 --> 01:41:40.320
So is that your question? How do I how do I drop the hanky?

1477
01:41:40.400 --> 01:41:46.680
Yeah, how do I drop the hanky and then my other one I put in and I guess maybe this might be beyond y'all's pay

1478
01:41:46.680 --> 01:41:47.880
grade

1479
01:41:47.880 --> 01:41:49.880
about me

1480
01:41:50.080 --> 01:41:56.040
Because I you know as I'm thinking I have not actually dated anybody that I really really

1481
01:41:56.720 --> 01:41:57.920
Was

1482
01:41:57.920 --> 01:41:59.920
Attracted to okay

1483
01:42:00.080 --> 01:42:06.640
Even though I've you know made eye contact, you know, we flirting with eyes and stuff but getting them to

1484
01:42:07.280 --> 01:42:11.760
Actually talk to me or respond to me. I don't know how to do it

1485
01:42:12.920 --> 01:42:14.920
Okay

1486
01:42:16.840 --> 01:42:18.840
Have you have you

1487
01:42:19.360 --> 01:42:22.520
when you see guys that you're really attracted to

1488
01:42:23.160 --> 01:42:26.440
Like are you seeing guys that you're attracted to and you're just like I can't do it

1489
01:42:27.360 --> 01:42:33.640
Well, I'm seeing guys that I'm attracted to and I'm speaking to them. I'm smiling at them

1490
01:42:35.400 --> 01:42:39.720
In some cases I'm having a conversation I'm have actually having a conversation

1491
01:42:40.600 --> 01:42:43.480
Stopping and talking for five minutes. Okay, um

1492
01:42:44.320 --> 01:42:49.000
I'm not able for whatever. Maybe they're married or something. I don't know

1493
01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:53.520
I don't know what kind I'm not reading signals really good at all. So

1494
01:42:56.080 --> 01:42:58.080
Okay, what's happening

1495
01:42:59.840 --> 01:43:05.320
Inside you when you were in that moment having conversation with him like what's what's happening

1496
01:43:06.120 --> 01:43:13.760
Internally, like is there nerves? Is there anxious energy? Is there are you feel relaxed? Do you feel like what?

1497
01:43:14.480 --> 01:43:20.800
What are some of the that well, I guess it's some it's some nervousness but some eagerness to okay, um

1498
01:43:21.560 --> 01:43:24.200
And now I guess not wanting to look like a fool

1499
01:43:25.960 --> 01:43:28.040
Is there a little bit of fear maybe yeah

1500
01:43:29.120 --> 01:43:31.120
Yeah, and that and that's normal

1501
01:43:31.760 --> 01:43:33.760
Show up for sure, you know

1502
01:43:34.000 --> 01:43:35.720
I

1503
01:43:35.720 --> 01:43:43.480
Would spend time with if you think that pattern is happening frequently with you like you're talking to people

1504
01:43:44.000 --> 01:43:45.440
and

1505
01:43:45.440 --> 01:43:51.920
could could how you like if there's some fear there is that coming across and

1506
01:43:52.400 --> 01:43:55.400
Being represented when you're having those conversations with them

1507
01:43:56.440 --> 01:43:58.080
like

1508
01:43:58.080 --> 01:44:00.080
spend time

1509
01:44:02.800 --> 01:44:04.800
Investigating your you know

1510
01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:12.640
With the Lord like okay. Is there something that you want me to see or try differently? So with that

1511
01:44:13.760 --> 01:44:15.760
Tell me the most recent

1512
01:44:17.200 --> 01:44:19.200
Interaction that you have with someone

1513
01:44:19.640 --> 01:44:21.640
what that looked like and

1514
01:44:22.280 --> 01:44:25.880
Then I will see if I can give you some tips on

1515
01:44:27.440 --> 01:44:34.960
What to do differently in the future, well, that's a good question because I'm not it's like I'm not having

1516
01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:41.000
You know, it's like one guy I see every so often okay and

1517
01:44:43.760 --> 01:44:46.400
This is one guy you see every so often in your attracted

1518
01:44:47.520 --> 01:44:54.640
Well, not really attracted, but he's a nice guy. Okay. Um, you're curious to know about him like you're you're like, okay

1519
01:44:54.640 --> 01:45:00.080
I would I would hang out and see what you're about. Yeah, I mean and and so I will see

1520
01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:03.560
see him sometimes, he's leaving the swimming pool,

1521
01:45:03.560 --> 01:45:07.680
I'm going in the swimming pool, or I'll see him at the gym.

1522
01:45:07.680 --> 01:45:10.320
So I'm having, you know, we've had a whole lot

1523
01:45:10.320 --> 01:45:11.240
of conversations.

1524
01:45:11.240 --> 01:45:12.920
I know a lot about him.

1525
01:45:12.920 --> 01:45:14.880
But I guess, you know what, maybe I'm not

1526
01:45:14.880 --> 01:45:16.560
asking people if they're married.

1527
01:45:16.560 --> 01:45:19.440
Maybe that's what it is, or if they've got a girlfriend.

1528
01:45:19.440 --> 01:45:23.200
Maybe that's just he, when you all see each other,

1529
01:45:23.200 --> 01:45:25.080
and you guys are having lots of conversation,

1530
01:45:25.080 --> 01:45:26.520
so there's communication there.

1531
01:45:26.520 --> 01:45:27.440
That's good.

1532
01:45:27.440 --> 01:45:31.920
Is he sometimes the one that recognizes you and says, hey?

1533
01:45:31.920 --> 01:45:36.320
Or is it always you saying, hey, and starting the conversation?

1534
01:45:36.320 --> 01:45:38.720
I think it's probably almost at the same time.

1535
01:45:38.720 --> 01:45:41.400
Because it's kind of, you know what I'm saying,

1536
01:45:41.400 --> 01:45:45.000
it's hit or miss.

1537
01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:46.120
Yes.

1538
01:45:46.120 --> 01:45:49.280
Do you know anything that he is interested in, that he likes?

1539
01:45:49.280 --> 01:45:52.480
Like, what do you know about him?

1540
01:45:52.480 --> 01:45:56.600
I know that he's got grown children.

1541
01:45:56.600 --> 01:46:04.400
And I know that he works for DC government.

1542
01:46:04.400 --> 01:46:06.160
Well, I know that he's lost weight.

1543
01:46:06.160 --> 01:46:07.240
So we talked about that.

1544
01:46:07.240 --> 01:46:09.080
Because I'm like, how are you losing weight?

1545
01:46:09.080 --> 01:46:10.400
And I'm not losing weight.

1546
01:46:10.400 --> 01:46:12.720
So we talked about that.

1547
01:46:12.720 --> 01:46:13.240
I guess.

1548
01:46:13.240 --> 01:46:15.760
He's probably taking a change.

1549
01:46:15.760 --> 01:46:18.920
It's like, everybody's on that.

1550
01:46:18.920 --> 01:46:21.280
Now, what he said, and it made sense.

1551
01:46:21.280 --> 01:46:23.080
He said, I cut the carbs.

1552
01:46:23.080 --> 01:46:25.680
I cut the juice.

1553
01:46:25.680 --> 01:46:30.080
Because most men don't have the sugar thing that we have.

1554
01:46:30.080 --> 01:46:31.400
A lot of the females have.

1555
01:46:31.400 --> 01:46:32.360
But he is.

1556
01:46:32.360 --> 01:46:34.200
Men just lose weight way easier than.

1557
01:46:34.200 --> 01:46:34.720
Yeah.

1558
01:46:34.720 --> 01:46:37.120
Yeah.

1559
01:46:37.120 --> 01:46:40.320
And I mean, I know I've even seen him.

1560
01:46:40.320 --> 01:46:41.760
It was one Christmas.

1561
01:46:41.760 --> 01:46:43.680
And so I saw him at the UPS store.

1562
01:46:43.680 --> 01:46:45.200
And I didn't even recognize him.

1563
01:46:45.200 --> 01:46:47.560
I was fussing about something else.

1564
01:46:47.560 --> 01:46:49.040
And then he showed up.

1565
01:46:49.040 --> 01:46:51.680
I was like, oh, I know you.

1566
01:46:51.680 --> 01:46:53.400
But we have good conversation.

1567
01:46:53.520 --> 01:46:59.440
But I think somehow or another, what I'm finding out,

1568
01:46:59.440 --> 01:47:04.680
and I even found out on Sunday, one guy, he comes over

1569
01:47:04.680 --> 01:47:05.440
and he talks.

1570
01:47:05.440 --> 01:47:07.760
But there's another lady over there that's probably

1571
01:47:07.760 --> 01:47:09.440
more his age that he talks to.

1572
01:47:09.440 --> 01:47:11.240
But he'll talk, talk, talk.

1573
01:47:11.240 --> 01:47:12.440
And so we were talking.

1574
01:47:12.440 --> 01:47:14.760
And man, I didn't know a whole lot about him.

1575
01:47:14.760 --> 01:47:15.800
So we talked.

1576
01:47:15.800 --> 01:47:19.240
And I said, hey, you interested in getting married?

1577
01:47:19.240 --> 01:47:21.480
And he said, no, I'm not interested in getting married.

1578
01:47:21.520 --> 01:47:25.440
Because I told him, I said, I've got plenty of girlfriends

1579
01:47:25.440 --> 01:47:26.000
and stuff.

1580
01:47:26.000 --> 01:47:29.760
And he's a nice guy, really another nice guy and stuff.

1581
01:47:29.760 --> 01:47:34.480
So what I'm realizing is a lot of times, men will talk to me.

1582
01:47:34.480 --> 01:47:35.200
They'll talk.

1583
01:47:35.200 --> 01:47:36.040
They're friendly.

1584
01:47:36.040 --> 01:47:39.000
But they really are not interested in a relationship

1585
01:47:39.000 --> 01:47:41.720
and in marriage or in dating.

1586
01:47:41.720 --> 01:47:44.520
So that's kind of what I think I'm coming up against,

1587
01:47:44.520 --> 01:47:49.440
that we've got good, we have good conversation.

1588
01:47:49.440 --> 01:47:52.480
And I don't think I'm a bad-looking person.

1589
01:47:52.480 --> 01:47:55.680
So I'm a bad-looking woman.

1590
01:47:55.680 --> 01:47:56.640
But that's what I think.

1591
01:47:56.640 --> 01:48:00.520
I think that maybe they're just being friendly.

1592
01:48:00.520 --> 01:48:03.200
OK.

1593
01:48:03.200 --> 01:48:04.960
And I'm just misreading signals.

1594
01:48:04.960 --> 01:48:10.920
I want to address the, be careful with aligning

1595
01:48:10.920 --> 01:48:14.440
with the, I'm coming up against something.

1596
01:48:14.440 --> 01:48:17.760
I don't want you thinking and coming in alignment

1597
01:48:17.760 --> 01:48:20.960
that it's going to be difficult and hard.

1598
01:48:20.960 --> 01:48:27.000
I feel really strong in sharing that with you.

1599
01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:30.120
Because ladies, when we look at something as it being hard,

1600
01:48:30.120 --> 01:48:32.440
it will be hard.

1601
01:48:32.440 --> 01:48:35.000
That's the lens that we're looking at it.

1602
01:48:35.000 --> 01:48:37.640
So if I rephrase it to say, I am learning

1603
01:48:37.640 --> 01:48:41.680
how to be comfortable in my own skin

1604
01:48:41.680 --> 01:48:45.880
when I'm talking to men, I was going

1605
01:48:45.880 --> 01:48:47.560
to say men of the opposite sex.

1606
01:48:48.560 --> 01:48:53.560
But of men, I'm becoming more comfortable

1607
01:48:53.560 --> 01:48:59.320
and being myself and flirting.

1608
01:48:59.320 --> 01:49:01.480
Because I thought I was a pretty good flirt.

1609
01:49:01.480 --> 01:49:05.320
But somehow or another, I'm being misread signals

1610
01:49:05.320 --> 01:49:06.520
all over the place.

1611
01:49:06.520 --> 01:49:08.280
So this is what I would encourage.

1612
01:49:08.280 --> 01:49:10.600
Because instead of coming out the gate

1613
01:49:10.600 --> 01:49:14.320
and talking about the marriage stuff,

1614
01:49:14.320 --> 01:49:18.040
because again, some men, depending on their ages,

1615
01:49:18.040 --> 01:49:22.080
some men might just be like, no, I'm not going to get married,

1616
01:49:22.080 --> 01:49:24.720
or I'm not going to get married again, or I did that

1617
01:49:24.720 --> 01:49:25.880
and not going to do it again.

1618
01:49:25.880 --> 01:49:27.720
Yeah, I don't start off like that.

1619
01:49:27.720 --> 01:49:29.280
Trust me.

1620
01:49:29.280 --> 01:49:34.440
I would start leaning into learning about what

1621
01:49:34.440 --> 01:49:35.920
things that they like.

1622
01:49:35.920 --> 01:49:40.400
So this guy that you see at the pool and the gym and stuff,

1623
01:49:40.400 --> 01:49:41.480
he's grown children.

1624
01:49:41.480 --> 01:49:43.640
He works in the DC government.

1625
01:49:43.640 --> 01:49:47.080
He's lost some weight.

1626
01:49:47.080 --> 01:49:53.160
Do you know what's a passion of his?

1627
01:49:53.160 --> 01:49:54.800
What does he really enjoy?

1628
01:49:54.800 --> 01:49:58.440
And does he have a big hobby that he's into?

1629
01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:02.400
Is there a certain type of food that he's like,

1630
01:50:03.440 --> 01:50:04.440
does he travel a lot?

1631
01:50:08.440 --> 01:50:12.280
What interesting things do you know about him?

1632
01:50:12.280 --> 01:50:14.040
Well, I know that he's traveled.

1633
01:50:14.040 --> 01:50:16.600
So he did say something about that.

1634
01:50:16.600 --> 01:50:17.840
I wonder if he said something,

1635
01:50:17.840 --> 01:50:19.960
maybe he did say something about some food,

1636
01:50:19.960 --> 01:50:20.920
because I should have asked him,

1637
01:50:20.920 --> 01:50:22.200
do you know how to cook?

1638
01:50:22.200 --> 01:50:25.320
I mean, what's your favorite restaurant

1639
01:50:25.320 --> 01:50:26.400
or something like that?

1640
01:50:26.400 --> 01:50:27.240
There you go.

1641
01:50:27.240 --> 01:50:30.080
Okay, so now you've got two topics

1642
01:50:30.080 --> 01:50:33.440
that you can now see if that can lead

1643
01:50:33.440 --> 01:50:35.440
into a bigger connection.

1644
01:50:35.440 --> 01:50:39.560
So if you know he's traveled,

1645
01:50:39.560 --> 01:50:43.500
do you have any trips that you wanna go on anytime soon?

1646
01:50:47.960 --> 01:50:52.520
Now you sounding like those Facebook dates.

1647
01:50:52.520 --> 01:50:54.160
Do you have a passport?

1648
01:50:54.160 --> 01:50:57.520
I'm like, look, I'm not even trying to get that far.

1649
01:50:57.520 --> 01:50:58.880
It could just be something nearby.

1650
01:50:58.880 --> 01:51:02.000
Like, you know, where do you live?

1651
01:51:02.000 --> 01:51:03.720
Do you live in New York, DC?

1652
01:51:03.720 --> 01:51:06.600
Yeah, that's a lot of stuff to do here.

1653
01:51:06.600 --> 01:51:07.440
That's what I'm saying.

1654
01:51:07.440 --> 01:51:08.400
Not a shortage of things.

1655
01:51:08.400 --> 01:51:09.240
That's for sure.

1656
01:51:09.240 --> 01:51:11.160
You could be like, look, like,

1657
01:51:11.160 --> 01:51:13.840
you're from here and you've traveled a lot.

1658
01:51:15.800 --> 01:51:17.200
I'm just thinking about going

1659
01:51:17.200 --> 01:51:19.400
and doing something just locally.

1660
01:51:19.400 --> 01:51:24.040
What, as a traveler, if you were traveling here,

1661
01:51:24.920 --> 01:51:26.600
what would you do for fun?

1662
01:51:30.360 --> 01:51:33.080
Or like, if you have, like, you know what?

1663
01:51:33.080 --> 01:51:36.360
Like, someone was asking me the other day,

1664
01:51:36.360 --> 01:51:39.680
like they were gonna come to this area

1665
01:51:39.680 --> 01:51:41.560
and they asked me like,

1666
01:51:41.560 --> 01:51:43.960
what are some things that I would do around here?

1667
01:51:43.960 --> 01:51:46.240
And I'm curious what,

1668
01:51:46.240 --> 01:51:48.200
I know some things that I would suggest,

1669
01:51:48.200 --> 01:51:51.480
but I'm curious, what things would you suggest

1670
01:51:51.480 --> 01:51:53.920
to people to do around our area?

1671
01:51:54.800 --> 01:51:56.840
That's a good, good starter question.

1672
01:51:56.840 --> 01:51:57.680
So thank you.

1673
01:51:57.680 --> 01:51:58.520
Thank you.

1674
01:51:58.520 --> 01:51:59.360
Oh, then he can tell,

1675
01:51:59.360 --> 01:52:04.080
maybe he tells you something about like a museum or a park

1676
01:52:04.080 --> 01:52:07.280
or something really cool that you never heard about.

1677
01:52:07.280 --> 01:52:10.040
And you'd be like, oh, that does sound like fun.

1678
01:52:10.040 --> 01:52:12.040
Maybe I should try that out sometime.

1679
01:52:13.040 --> 01:52:14.840
And then you can go try it out

1680
01:52:14.840 --> 01:52:16.480
and then you guys can go talk about it.

1681
01:52:16.480 --> 01:52:20.640
Or you can say, ah, I was thinking about next weekend

1682
01:52:20.640 --> 01:52:23.240
going to that place that you were telling me about.

1683
01:52:23.560 --> 01:52:25.560
Do you wanna come spend some time with me

1684
01:52:25.560 --> 01:52:26.960
to go and do that?

1685
01:52:29.320 --> 01:52:30.800
See how that's dropping a hanky?

1686
01:52:30.800 --> 01:52:31.800
Yeah, I guess.

1687
01:52:31.800 --> 01:52:34.080
But I think my thing is,

1688
01:52:34.080 --> 01:52:35.520
I don't know whether,

1689
01:52:35.520 --> 01:52:38.440
he could be married or separated or whatever.

1690
01:52:38.440 --> 01:52:39.280
And guess what?

1691
01:52:39.280 --> 01:52:41.400
If he is, he'll say so.

1692
01:52:41.400 --> 01:52:42.640
He gets to tell you that.

1693
01:52:42.640 --> 01:52:43.480
Yeah.

1694
01:52:43.480 --> 01:52:44.600
Because right now you're not,

1695
01:52:44.600 --> 01:52:48.480
you are inviting, you're just having conversation.

1696
01:52:49.960 --> 01:52:51.760
Conversation.

1697
01:52:51.760 --> 01:52:52.640
And then when you ask him

1698
01:52:53.040 --> 01:52:54.440
and you could be like, oh,

1699
01:52:54.440 --> 01:52:56.440
I'm sorry, that sounded really forward.

1700
01:52:57.760 --> 01:52:59.360
I apologize.

1701
01:52:59.360 --> 01:53:01.080
You could be married.

1702
01:53:01.080 --> 01:53:02.000
My fault.

1703
01:53:03.040 --> 01:53:04.000
You see how you can say that?

1704
01:53:04.000 --> 01:53:06.760
I'm sorry if that was really forward.

1705
01:53:06.760 --> 01:53:09.560
I guess I should have asked if you were married.

1706
01:53:09.560 --> 01:53:11.320
And then he'd be like, yeah, I am.

1707
01:53:11.320 --> 01:53:14.080
Or no, no, I'm not, I'm divorced.

1708
01:53:14.080 --> 01:53:17.920
Or oh, nope, I was engaged once

1709
01:53:17.920 --> 01:53:21.320
and then she left me at the altar.

1710
01:53:21.840 --> 01:53:22.680
I don't know.

1711
01:53:22.680 --> 01:53:23.520
Do you know?

1712
01:53:23.520 --> 01:53:25.520
Do you see how that can kind of,

1713
01:53:25.520 --> 01:53:28.440
you get to, there's some curiosity there.

1714
01:53:28.440 --> 01:53:30.920
You get to ask questions.

1715
01:53:30.920 --> 01:53:33.440
But do you see how you're asking questions

1716
01:53:33.440 --> 01:53:37.000
that can now lead to more opportunity

1717
01:53:37.000 --> 01:53:38.480
for engagement and connection

1718
01:53:38.480 --> 01:53:40.920
and possible get together?

1719
01:53:40.920 --> 01:53:41.760
Okay, that's helpful.

1720
01:53:41.760 --> 01:53:42.960
So it's like the same thing with the food.

1721
01:53:42.960 --> 01:53:46.480
Oh, would you care to go try

1722
01:53:46.480 --> 01:53:48.920
this Italian restaurant with me sometime?

1723
01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:52.960
Or go grab breakfast at this breakfast place

1724
01:53:52.960 --> 01:53:57.320
that opened up 15 minutes across town.

1725
01:53:59.080 --> 01:54:00.520
Yeah, that helps.

1726
01:54:00.520 --> 01:54:01.960
This helps me because I've-

1727
01:54:01.960 --> 01:54:02.880
That's how we sometimes drop.

1728
01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:03.720
Because guess what?

1729
01:54:03.720 --> 01:54:06.280
Some men are not very forward.

1730
01:54:07.600 --> 01:54:09.160
Sometimes they're nervous.

1731
01:54:09.160 --> 01:54:10.400
Sometimes they're-

1732
01:54:10.400 --> 01:54:11.440
That's what I'm finding,

1733
01:54:11.440 --> 01:54:12.960
especially with the saved ones.

1734
01:54:12.960 --> 01:54:14.960
The unsaved don't have any issues,

1735
01:54:14.960 --> 01:54:17.360
but the saved men, I'm like,

1736
01:54:17.360 --> 01:54:19.920
am I that intimidated?

1737
01:54:19.920 --> 01:54:21.520
No, we live in a world

1738
01:54:21.520 --> 01:54:22.840
where women have made it very,

1739
01:54:22.840 --> 01:54:24.560
very difficult for men to be men.

1740
01:54:28.520 --> 01:54:30.720
Yeah, well, I mean, I-

1741
01:54:30.720 --> 01:54:33.160
That was like, everyone was silent there.

1742
01:54:33.160 --> 01:54:36.040
I mean, we do live in a society

1743
01:54:36.040 --> 01:54:38.960
where like men don't know sometimes

1744
01:54:38.960 --> 01:54:43.960
if women are going to be defensive with them

1745
01:54:44.320 --> 01:54:46.720
if they show interest.

1746
01:54:47.680 --> 01:54:49.400
But if we're making eye contact

1747
01:54:49.400 --> 01:54:51.560
and we've been doing it for months,

1748
01:54:51.560 --> 01:54:52.400
what more do we need?

1749
01:54:52.400 --> 01:54:54.000
But if they've been hurt,

1750
01:54:54.000 --> 01:54:55.840
or if they've been, you know-

1751
01:54:55.840 --> 01:54:57.080
And we all have been hurt.

1752
01:54:57.080 --> 01:54:58.000
I know.

1753
01:54:58.000 --> 01:54:59.480
Trust me, I get it.

1754
01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:01.360
I know.

1755
01:55:01.360 --> 01:55:02.320
But thank you.

1756
01:55:02.320 --> 01:55:04.320
This was helpful.

1757
01:55:04.320 --> 01:55:05.440
So just asking, asking.

1758
01:55:05.440 --> 01:55:11.520
Keep me updated about, we need a nickname for this pool guy.

1759
01:55:11.520 --> 01:55:12.840
Well, his name is Chuck.

1760
01:55:12.840 --> 01:55:14.680
I do know his name.

1761
01:55:14.680 --> 01:55:15.760
Name is Chuck.

1762
01:55:15.760 --> 01:55:17.200
I don't know what his last name is.

1763
01:55:17.200 --> 01:55:18.800
Do we call him like Chuck the Cabana Boy?

1764
01:55:22.040 --> 01:55:23.800
Back when I was in the community,

1765
01:55:23.800 --> 01:55:26.880
we gave nicknames to all the guys

1766
01:55:26.880 --> 01:55:28.000
that we went on dates with.

1767
01:55:28.000 --> 01:55:29.840
It was just fun that way.

1768
01:55:30.800 --> 01:55:35.440
I want to hear more details about Chuck the Cabana Boy

1769
01:55:35.440 --> 01:55:37.080
and how flirting is going with him.

1770
01:55:37.080 --> 01:55:38.920
So keep us updated.

1771
01:55:38.920 --> 01:55:39.680
OK, all right.

1772
01:55:39.680 --> 01:55:40.800
Thank you.

1773
01:55:40.800 --> 01:55:41.880
All right.

1774
01:55:41.880 --> 01:55:42.560
All right.

1775
01:55:42.560 --> 01:55:44.400
Other Cynthia and Joanne, if we could,

1776
01:55:44.400 --> 01:55:47.200
we are coming up on that.

1777
01:55:47.200 --> 01:55:48.480
Definitely spend a lot of time.

1778
01:55:48.480 --> 01:55:51.440
But I want to, I'm going to, I'm going to take one for the team

1779
01:55:51.440 --> 01:55:54.200
and say this is on me, on me.

1780
01:55:54.200 --> 01:55:58.400
So but I want to, I want to hear what your questions are.

1781
01:55:58.400 --> 01:56:02.000
So what you got for me?

1782
01:56:02.000 --> 01:56:03.920
Oh, bless you.

1783
01:56:03.920 --> 01:56:06.520
Thank you.

1784
01:56:06.520 --> 01:56:09.560
So I'm in this, in the relationship

1785
01:56:09.560 --> 01:56:12.560
I've been in for two years and two months, right?

1786
01:56:12.560 --> 01:56:13.920
Yes.

1787
01:56:13.920 --> 01:56:19.400
And so back, I think it was probably in March, actually.

1788
01:56:19.400 --> 01:56:22.720
We decided that by the end of June,

1789
01:56:22.720 --> 01:56:26.560
we would have a kind of cut off where we would just say,

1790
01:56:26.560 --> 01:56:28.760
decision time.

1791
01:56:28.760 --> 01:56:32.480
End of March was our two year anniversary.

1792
01:56:32.480 --> 01:56:33.080
OK.

1793
01:56:33.080 --> 01:56:36.400
And yeah.

1794
01:56:36.400 --> 01:56:38.760
And now I'm kind of really feeling it

1795
01:56:38.760 --> 01:56:42.640
because the end of June is now close.

1796
01:56:42.640 --> 01:56:45.880
And I mean, he's been really patient.

1797
01:56:45.880 --> 01:56:51.000
And I just don't know how to get myself over the line.

1798
01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:54.040
It just seems like, to me, such a huge decision.

1799
01:56:54.040 --> 01:56:56.560
I mean, he's not saying let's get married straight away.

1800
01:56:56.560 --> 01:56:59.720
But he's a teacher, so he gets big summer holidays.

1801
01:56:59.720 --> 01:57:02.680
And so he's like saying, you know,

1802
01:57:02.680 --> 01:57:05.080
then I would come because we live in different countries.

1803
01:57:05.080 --> 01:57:07.360
I would come to you for six weeks.

1804
01:57:07.360 --> 01:57:10.600
I even have somewhere that he could stay nearby

1805
01:57:10.600 --> 01:57:12.120
and spend his whole six weeks there.

1806
01:57:12.120 --> 01:57:13.880
And I could potentially, I have a job

1807
01:57:13.880 --> 01:57:17.760
where I can take unpaid leave.

1808
01:57:17.760 --> 01:57:20.680
So I could potentially then take after that, say like a month

1809
01:57:20.680 --> 01:57:26.080
or two or six weeks, and go and stay somewhere near him.

1810
01:57:26.080 --> 01:57:32.280
But it means that it's like another step forward.

1811
01:57:32.280 --> 01:57:38.160
And I feel like I should have more clarity before I do that.

1812
01:57:38.160 --> 01:57:41.480
I actually went to see him last week.

1813
01:57:41.480 --> 01:57:44.760
How often do you guys see each other?

1814
01:57:44.760 --> 01:57:45.760
Yeah.

1815
01:57:45.760 --> 01:57:47.920
So it's been kind of sporadic.

1816
01:57:47.920 --> 01:57:52.480
So we talk every day in some form.

1817
01:57:52.480 --> 01:57:55.400
Sometimes it's voice messages and video messages.

1818
01:57:55.400 --> 01:58:00.880
And maybe two, three times a week, it's live conversations, video chat.

1819
01:58:00.880 --> 01:58:04.000
But yeah, we see each other.

1820
01:58:04.000 --> 01:58:06.440
I just spent the whole of last week with him.

1821
01:58:06.440 --> 01:58:08.440
I went over there.

1822
01:58:08.440 --> 01:58:12.080
It was his, he had a week off school holiday.

1823
01:58:12.080 --> 01:58:13.840
OK.

1824
01:58:13.960 --> 01:58:18.000
And otherwise, maybe it's one or two weekends a month.

1825
01:58:18.000 --> 01:58:20.440
I will go there or he will come here.

1826
01:58:20.440 --> 01:58:23.920
So you're seeing each other once a month?

1827
01:58:23.920 --> 01:58:24.720
Yeah.

1828
01:58:24.720 --> 01:58:25.040
OK.

1829
01:58:25.040 --> 01:58:25.800
Yeah.

1830
01:58:25.800 --> 01:58:29.280
Costing a fortune in hotels and flights and everything else.

1831
01:58:29.280 --> 01:58:31.760
But yeah.

1832
01:58:31.760 --> 01:58:32.960
And let me ask you this.

1833
01:58:32.960 --> 01:58:42.080
If, you know, you continue on, what would relocating look like?

1834
01:58:42.080 --> 01:58:45.560
Who would relocate?

1835
01:58:45.560 --> 01:58:46.800
Yeah, it's difficult in theory.

1836
01:58:46.800 --> 01:58:51.160
He's willing to come here because he can teach in the international system.

1837
01:58:51.160 --> 01:58:53.040
He would teach in an English language school.

1838
01:58:53.040 --> 01:58:57.800
But he's applied for jobs and has not got anything.

1839
01:58:57.800 --> 01:59:04.280
It's really weirdly, he has not even got, often doesn't even get a reply or a reason why.

1840
01:59:04.280 --> 01:59:06.400
And then he's asked for feedback on why.

1841
01:59:06.400 --> 01:59:10.920
Whereas in Britain, where he is, he's never had an issue with that.

1842
01:59:10.920 --> 01:59:13.280
And in fact, his last contract went to an end.

1843
01:59:13.280 --> 01:59:15.720
He applied for jobs there and here and there.

1844
01:59:15.720 --> 01:59:19.040
He got loads of offers for interviews, got a job straight away.

1845
01:59:19.040 --> 01:59:21.200
Here, there was nothing at all.

1846
01:59:21.200 --> 01:59:24.520
And you're in Germany, right?

1847
01:59:24.520 --> 01:59:25.240
I'm in Germany.

1848
01:59:25.240 --> 01:59:26.440
I'm in Berlin.

1849
01:59:26.440 --> 01:59:28.240
So there's actually, you know, in the capital.

1850
01:59:28.240 --> 01:59:31.320
So there's actually a number of international schools here.

1851
01:59:31.320 --> 01:59:35.840
There's also other schools in other close by cities.

1852
01:59:35.840 --> 01:59:37.600
So there are lots of options in theory.

1853
01:59:37.600 --> 01:59:40.680
And every time a job comes up and he's a physics teacher and they're like really

1854
01:59:40.680 --> 01:59:42.120
sought after.

1855
01:59:42.120 --> 01:59:45.320
So every time he applies for nothing.

1856
01:59:45.320 --> 01:59:47.720
So it's almost like that door isn't open.

1857
01:59:47.720 --> 01:59:53.720
It's not out of the effort of him trying to get there so that you guys can be.

1858
01:59:53.720 --> 01:59:55.960
No, no, he's keen.

1859
01:59:55.960 --> 01:59:56.760
That's what I wonder.

1860
01:59:56.760 --> 01:59:59.560
Like, I wonder, like, is it hard for you to even.

1861
02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:04.520
see what that step moving forward would be like

1862
02:00:04.520 --> 02:00:09.000
if you're living in the same country

1863
02:00:09.000 --> 02:00:12.640
or able to see what that would look like.

1864
02:00:12.640 --> 02:00:14.440
Well, like I said, we could temporarily,

1865
02:00:14.440 --> 02:00:17.960
although both of us would be in a situation.

1866
02:00:17.960 --> 02:00:20.160
You know, when he comes here, he would have holiday.

1867
02:00:20.160 --> 02:00:22.320
People say it needs to be more like your everyday life,

1868
02:00:22.320 --> 02:00:23.160
right?

1869
02:00:23.160 --> 02:00:25.240
But when he comes here, he would be his holiday.

1870
02:00:25.240 --> 02:00:26.160
I would be his holiday.

1871
02:00:26.160 --> 02:00:27.000
He would be our holiday.

1872
02:00:27.000 --> 02:00:29.640
What are your thoughts about being able to do that

1873
02:00:29.680 --> 02:00:34.080
then sooner rather than later

1874
02:00:34.080 --> 02:00:36.520
so that you guys are consistently around each other

1875
02:00:36.520 --> 02:00:39.240
and kind of see how y'all interact?

1876
02:00:39.240 --> 02:00:40.080
And-

1877
02:00:40.080 --> 02:00:42.040
Yeah, I mean, his school holidays start mid-July

1878
02:00:42.040 --> 02:00:43.680
till early September.

1879
02:00:43.680 --> 02:00:44.520
And then-

1880
02:00:44.520 --> 02:00:48.400
I think if the two of you can talk about that

1881
02:00:48.400 --> 02:00:50.640
and see if that seems, you know,

1882
02:00:50.640 --> 02:00:55.640
you both feel that God is saying that that is an option

1883
02:00:56.720 --> 02:00:57.880
and it's doable.

1884
02:00:57.880 --> 02:01:00.240
I would strongly suggest that.

1885
02:01:00.240 --> 02:01:05.240
So that way you can see what spending time with each other

1886
02:01:07.320 --> 02:01:11.440
consistently longer than just like a one week time,

1887
02:01:11.440 --> 02:01:15.240
but several weeks, if not like a month or more

1888
02:01:15.240 --> 02:01:16.920
would look like

1889
02:01:16.920 --> 02:01:20.760
just so that you could start building that connection

1890
02:01:20.760 --> 02:01:24.480
of what that intimacy looks like

1891
02:01:24.480 --> 02:01:26.480
getting to know someone that's close by.

1892
02:01:28.880 --> 02:01:33.880
And then from there, see what surfaces internally

1893
02:01:35.440 --> 02:01:38.520
with what you're feeling and experiencing.

1894
02:01:38.520 --> 02:01:40.920
If there's anything that needs to be revealed that,

1895
02:01:40.920 --> 02:01:44.680
you know, oh, this is why I just can't seem to

1896
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feel ready to move forward

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or this is why I'm feeling it's a step back

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or you'll get to,

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with you being intentionally near each other,

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more consistently,

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it's going to be more highlighted.

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And so then you actually get,

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you get to actually experience it.

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Does that make sense?

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Yeah.

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I mean, my concern is I just,

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I feel like I should know,

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but I just don't know if I know.

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That's what I'm saying.

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And I don't want you to,

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I mean, cause you've spent two years,

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you know, two years and two-

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I know.

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I know.

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It's like, you know,

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I can't imagine why I keep spending

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and stretching this out anymore.

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I mean, that's two years is a lot of time.

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Yeah, and also by us spending intensive amounts of time

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together because he's very sure and he really loves me.

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And I always thought,

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I feel like by spending intentional time together,

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all that time-

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That's what I'm saying.

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I think if you put yourself in a situation where-

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Where it's going to say, actually-

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Yeah, where if you're spending time

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in the actual situation where you're being intentional,

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like that might be able to help you uncover

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what the holdup is in you,

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or it might just realize it really is just about

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we need to be around each other.

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It might be hard to connect to somebody emotionally

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if you're not physically around them consistently.

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And doing-

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We did have, we did have two years ago,

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I was at DC.

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The summer before last,

1939
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we spent, again, by being in each other's countries

1940
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during his summer holidays,

1941
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part of the time I took holiday,

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part of the time I was working,

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02:03:27.280 --> 02:03:29.760
but we spent most, on and off,

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most of six weeks together,

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but in different countries.

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But we were kind of always in holiday mode.

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People say that's not what you're supposed to do,

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but it's kind of difficult because you can't,

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02:03:38.240 --> 02:03:39.960
if you're not working, you're on holiday.

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So, but we went to nice places and we did things.

1951
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He went to see my family.

1952
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That was more difficult for different reasons.

1953
02:03:50.680 --> 02:03:52.200
And yes, and he has some triggers,

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which I struggle with,

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02:03:53.400 --> 02:03:54.360
but I kind of,

1956
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I tried to address those last week when I was with him.

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That didn't go so well.

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I think I didn't do that so wisely,

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but that's maybe a question for another time.

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I think my biggest thing is, do I actually love him?

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I just don't know.

1962
02:04:05.440 --> 02:04:06.280
I just don't know.

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We get on well.

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02:04:07.160 --> 02:04:08.600
We have lots in common.

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He makes me laugh.

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02:04:11.000 --> 02:04:12.960
We have lots of common interests.

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I really, he prays for me every day

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02:04:14.760 --> 02:04:16.560
and I've really benefited from that.

1969
02:04:17.720 --> 02:04:22.480
I can see real signs of the way I've benefited from that.

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02:04:23.360 --> 02:04:25.920
I'd love to share it with you all.

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02:04:25.920 --> 02:04:28.280
So, as I'm really grateful for that,

1972
02:04:28.280 --> 02:04:30.040
I just don't know.

1973
02:04:30.040 --> 02:04:33.000
Surely, you know, I should feel more.

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02:04:33.000 --> 02:04:37.760
We met a guy at church last Sunday, one of the leaders,

1975
02:04:37.760 --> 02:04:40.480
and then Tuk sent me the message

1976
02:04:40.480 --> 02:04:43.560
that he'd sent to him afterwards.

1977
02:04:43.560 --> 02:04:46.160
And he'd written, so this guy had written to Tuk saying,

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02:04:46.160 --> 02:04:48.360
oh, you know, so loved together

1979
02:04:48.360 --> 02:04:50.120
and you seem like such a great couple.

1980
02:04:50.160 --> 02:04:53.720
It must be such a wrench now to be apart again.

1981
02:04:53.720 --> 02:04:55.280
And I thought, no.

1982
02:04:55.280 --> 02:04:58.840
I'm used to it, especially if you've gotten

1983
02:04:58.840 --> 02:05:00.400
into that rhythm though, where.

1984
02:05:00.000 --> 02:05:07.040
you, for years, you're used to not being, not near each other. So you've gotten,

1985
02:05:08.160 --> 02:05:12.240
being, I mean, I've been in love so many times, and then it is hard to say goodbye,

1986
02:05:12.240 --> 02:05:18.000
and it is hard to be apart from them. But I don't feel in love that sense. We just,

1987
02:05:18.000 --> 02:05:22.400
but then I keep thinking, well, maybe that was, that was not, you know, that was more the,

1988
02:05:23.120 --> 02:05:31.520
do me a favor, do me a favor, because I really want to help, if I can, in any way to kind of

1989
02:05:31.520 --> 02:05:38.960
help uncover this. If you could sit down and have some time journaling with the Lord this week,

1990
02:05:40.080 --> 02:05:46.240
and then post, like, what, what are the highlighted things that

1991
02:05:47.120 --> 02:05:50.320
you struggle with, with Him, like, that are the triggers?

1992
02:05:52.960 --> 02:06:01.280
Where, where is the fear? Let's start looking at what the fears are, and what the concerns are.

1993
02:06:05.600 --> 02:06:09.200
Because I think, I mean, you've obviously, you've been with Him for two years, so there's some good

1994
02:06:09.440 --> 02:06:17.440
things. We obviously know that. So I want to spend some time where you get to really go and, like,

1995
02:06:18.640 --> 02:06:26.320
go to the Lord with the concerns. Like, Lord, are these concerns that you're showing me because

1996
02:06:26.320 --> 02:06:34.400
you're showing me that I'm not in alignment with this man? Or are you showing me these concerns

1997
02:06:34.400 --> 02:06:40.560
because you're showing me where I need to heal? And so I think, you know, and you don't have to

1998
02:06:40.560 --> 02:06:47.200
tackle them all, but if we get a list, we can look at looking at one of those things,

1999
02:06:48.640 --> 02:06:54.720
and starting there, and seeing, you know, what is God highlighting to you to look at first,

2000
02:06:56.320 --> 02:07:01.920
and we'll see what He wants to reveal. How do you feel about that?

2001
02:07:02.800 --> 02:07:09.920
Okay. And you can, like, if you make a post before the call next week, that way we can kind of look

2002
02:07:09.920 --> 02:07:16.720
at that as well. That way we get some conversation flowing, some back and forth. That really helps.

2003
02:07:16.720 --> 02:07:20.960
Ladies, and that goes for everybody. And ladies, I appreciate y'all stick sticking on. I know this

2004
02:07:20.960 --> 02:07:28.240
is a very, very long call today. I appreciate it. The more y'all respond and post in the app,

2005
02:07:28.240 --> 02:07:33.200
the more we have the opportunity to kind of do back and forth so that when we have these

2006
02:07:33.200 --> 02:07:40.480
group calls, we do actually get to spend time kind of uncovering what we can because we've

2007
02:07:40.480 --> 02:07:51.680
done some of the process offline first. So that's always helpful. That, like, I know several ladies

2008
02:07:51.680 --> 02:07:59.040
have done that. I know, like, Laura's been posting in there. I know Nadine, she's posted

2009
02:07:59.040 --> 02:08:02.960
in there. I think, Mika, you've done that. I've seen Kelly post a lot of things in there.

2010
02:08:03.760 --> 02:08:10.880
I'm just looking at, I think, Joanna, she's put. So when you are sharing with us, and Karen as

2011
02:08:10.880 --> 02:08:16.960
well, like, when you ladies are sharing things with us and walking us through what's going on

2012
02:08:17.040 --> 02:08:23.760
in your life, that when we come on these calls, we can really accelerate some of that growth

2013
02:08:24.320 --> 02:08:32.400
because we're not having to comb through all of the details because we've already

2014
02:08:32.400 --> 02:08:40.080
been working through that on the app, if you will. So that would be, if you can do that for me,

2015
02:08:40.080 --> 02:08:44.400
Cynthia, I think we, I'm going to, I'm going to pray that we're going to get some breakthrough

2016
02:08:44.400 --> 02:08:50.960
in that in hopes that something is going to be revealed so that you can get some relief

2017
02:08:50.960 --> 02:08:56.560
and you can feel at peace with, you know, a decision one way or the other. Yeah.

2018
02:08:58.320 --> 02:09:03.280
Because I can only imagine that's probably, you know, like, I just want to know.

2019
02:09:04.880 --> 02:09:08.880
I'm sure at this point, you're like, I like, whether it's yes or no, I just want the answer,

2020
02:09:08.880 --> 02:09:18.880
right? Yeah. But again, God doesn't always, I feel like I feel like pressure and almost,

2021
02:09:18.880 --> 02:09:24.880
and everybody, like all my friends or his friends, he's hungry. Everybody's going to run.

2022
02:09:28.080 --> 02:09:30.880
God's not going to sit here and say, well, here's the answer. Cause guess what? We get

2023
02:09:30.880 --> 02:09:38.560
free will, we get choice. But I think there's something in that, in the process of discovering

2024
02:09:38.560 --> 02:09:43.360
and it's like, Lord, there's clearly something you want to show me whether it's yes or no,

2025
02:09:43.360 --> 02:09:50.160
there's something very sacred and very special about the relationship that you've shared with

2026
02:09:50.160 --> 02:09:57.600
this person. And so I think that will be honored regardless of what the outcome is.

2027
02:09:58.480 --> 02:09:59.920
But if you're focused on the outcome.

2028
02:10:00.000 --> 02:10:03.560
Like I need to know you this or no, then you're we're gonna miss

2029
02:10:04.240 --> 02:10:07.320
What God is actually trying to show you and so?

2030
02:10:08.040 --> 02:10:12.720
Let's remove the let's remove that. I need to know if it's yes or no

2031
02:10:13.800 --> 02:10:17.760
Let's start asking. What is it that you want to reveal to me Lord?

2032
02:10:20.360 --> 02:10:22.360
Let's do that, I think that's

2033
02:10:23.080 --> 02:10:28.120
That really falls to what was you know, the Lord was really heavy

2034
02:10:28.120 --> 02:10:32.000
On sharing with this community and yes

2035
02:10:34.640 --> 02:10:38.440
And we can even see if we can find you some information about Simba's as well

2036
02:10:39.320 --> 02:10:44.880
Yeah, that's something good. Yeah, let me talk because I think Bethany and Brian are I don't know if they have a

2037
02:10:46.360 --> 02:10:48.360
If they're teaching one right now

2038
02:10:49.200 --> 02:10:53.760
Or if they're going to be I'll have to let me reach out to Bethany and ask her

2039
02:10:53.760 --> 02:10:57.200
Because we can look at that for the two of you as well

2040
02:10:58.160 --> 02:11:04.160
Well, that's that's for us as a couple as a yes, that could be a possibility because that will

2041
02:11:05.800 --> 02:11:07.800
Highlight

2042
02:11:07.840 --> 02:11:11.920
Things that need to be highlighted to be honest. We haven't done a pre-marriage course

2043
02:11:13.280 --> 02:11:15.280
Because someone here in my church

2044
02:11:15.880 --> 02:11:23.000
So if there is like again like if there's things that trigger you and he's not willing to address him and that's kind of maybe where

2045
02:11:23.000 --> 02:11:24.960
the hold-up is

2046
02:11:24.960 --> 02:11:27.920
He's not gonna he's not gonna be able to avoid it

2047
02:11:29.280 --> 02:11:34.680
like it's going to be highlighted there in that course and

2048
02:11:35.520 --> 02:11:37.520
that gets to be like

2049
02:11:37.840 --> 02:11:44.320
You know, it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's

2050
02:11:44.480 --> 02:11:46.480
like

2051
02:11:47.080 --> 02:11:49.340
That gets revealed to you and

2052
02:11:49.820 --> 02:11:54.040
Then you you get to decide like okay. This is how I want to navigate this

2053
02:11:54.040 --> 02:12:00.740
Are you on board with me or not? Like are we in alignment together is you have to be in alignment in marriage?

2054
02:12:01.320 --> 02:12:05.240
You have our you can have disagreements. I mean trust me me my husband don't agree about everything

2055
02:12:05.520 --> 02:12:07.000
trust

2056
02:12:07.000 --> 02:12:07.960
me

2057
02:12:07.960 --> 02:12:13.320
We have two different personalities two different opinions about things like we approach things way differently

2058
02:12:14.040 --> 02:12:16.040
But we're in alignment and

2059
02:12:16.960 --> 02:12:23.920
So that's important like we don't avoid the tough conversations. I mean there might be times where I'm like

2060
02:12:24.560 --> 02:12:29.520
He's just not ready to talk about it, but he knows I'm not gonna not talk about it

2061
02:12:30.080 --> 02:12:33.940
So I'm like, okay, I'll give you your space now, but just know like

2062
02:12:35.120 --> 02:12:39.080
We're we're in agreement that we are always working to get better on ourselves

2063
02:12:39.920 --> 02:12:42.800
So you might not be in a space to work on yourself right now

2064
02:12:43.920 --> 02:12:46.440
but how much how long do you need because

2065
02:12:47.120 --> 02:12:53.400
We can't stay here for the rest of our lives. And so sometimes he's like, you know, just give me a couple months

2066
02:12:53.400 --> 02:12:53.960
I'm like, okay

2067
02:12:53.960 --> 02:12:58.640
I needed a couple months recently where I'm like look I like I even just told my husband

2068
02:12:58.640 --> 02:13:01.320
I'm like look the Lord told me I'm spending 90 days with just the Lord

2069
02:13:02.200 --> 02:13:05.880
Like I'm spending 90 days of intentional time with the Lord. And so I'm like, honey

2070
02:13:05.880 --> 02:13:08.080
I just need you to be mindful of that. I

2071
02:13:09.160 --> 02:13:12.960
I'm gonna wake up each day and I don't know what God's gonna have me do every day

2072
02:13:12.960 --> 02:13:18.440
So I just can you support me in that and he's like, yeah, my husband just started fasting

2073
02:13:20.200 --> 02:13:24.320
Three days out of a week and he's doing that for seven weeks

2074
02:13:25.960 --> 02:13:31.320
And I'm like, well and I asked him I was like do you expect me to fast with you

2075
02:13:35.520 --> 02:13:39.960
Cuz I'm like honey I struggle just to fast one day a week so

2076
02:13:40.960 --> 02:13:42.960
Three days it's all for you. I

2077
02:13:43.880 --> 02:13:47.880
Will do what the Lord says to me, but I will support you in that and I will do whatever I'm like

2078
02:13:47.880 --> 02:13:49.760
What is it that you need from me?

2079
02:13:49.760 --> 02:13:55.520
So that you can make I mean again like there's partnership

2080
02:13:56.080 --> 02:14:01.560
like I'm like, I'm not gonna fast like that like God's not having me fast right now, but

2081
02:14:02.720 --> 02:14:03.880
eventually

2082
02:14:03.880 --> 02:14:09.440
You know if if that's something that he's like, okay. Well we need to fast together then

2083
02:14:09.960 --> 02:14:12.080
well, we'll have that conversation, but

2084
02:14:12.920 --> 02:14:15.080
you'll learn that and send this as

2085
02:14:17.160 --> 02:14:21.760
To like, okay what what needs to get highlighted for sure?

2086
02:14:24.720 --> 02:14:26.720
Okay, thank you

2087
02:14:27.040 --> 02:14:29.360
All right, Joanne. How's everything going with them?

2088
02:14:30.880 --> 02:14:34.760
With the guy that's like not not your typical guy

2089
02:14:35.760 --> 02:14:37.760
Yeah, so

2090
02:14:38.320 --> 02:14:43.720
The there are two guys to put the other the guy that's in the program. We decided not to move for it

2091
02:14:43.720 --> 02:14:46.040
that was actually very awesome how we

2092
02:14:47.280 --> 02:14:54.120
Came to that conclusion, but for the sake of time, I don't need to go into it. It was just like a reminder that God is

2093
02:14:55.040 --> 02:14:59.800
In my dating process, which is really nice

2094
02:15:00.000 --> 02:15:05.000
Um, so today's my last day in phase two.

2095
02:15:05.000 --> 02:15:11.000
Um, I know they already started removing like all my phase one and phase two.

2096
02:15:11.000 --> 02:15:13.000
It's already gone after I got on the call.

2097
02:15:13.000 --> 02:15:15.000
Um, but I'm on phase three.

2098
02:15:15.000 --> 02:15:16.000
So, and Jackie.

2099
02:15:16.000 --> 02:15:17.000
Okay, good.

2100
02:15:17.000 --> 02:15:18.000
You're already at least.

2101
02:15:18.000 --> 02:15:19.000
Yes.

2102
02:15:19.000 --> 02:15:20.000
Yeah.

2103
02:15:20.000 --> 02:15:28.000
Um, so the question I have is more, um, about pacing with, uh, Matthew is the guy that I asked down and we've been hanging out.

2104
02:15:28.000 --> 02:15:29.000
We like hung out last week.

2105
02:15:29.000 --> 02:15:34.000
We spent like nine and a half hours together.

2106
02:15:34.000 --> 02:15:36.000
I like Matthew.

2107
02:15:36.000 --> 02:15:43.000
We, I think, uh, he's like, he's, this isn't like, this is a new experience for you.

2108
02:15:43.000 --> 02:15:44.000
Oh yeah.

2109
02:15:44.000 --> 02:15:46.000
He's the guy who's like, does he even like me?

2110
02:15:46.000 --> 02:15:47.000
Like he does.

2111
02:15:47.000 --> 02:15:52.000
He's the opposite of all the past guys I've dated that were not good.

2112
02:15:52.000 --> 02:15:54.000
They would love bomb, like go too fast.

2113
02:15:54.000 --> 02:15:55.000
Too soon.

2114
02:15:55.000 --> 02:15:58.000
They would say all these things, but their actions wouldn't show.

2115
02:15:58.000 --> 02:16:00.000
Whereas Matthew is the opposite.

2116
02:16:00.000 --> 02:16:03.000
He like shows by showing up all the time.

2117
02:16:03.000 --> 02:16:05.000
He's like, whatever I want to do.

2118
02:16:05.000 --> 02:16:08.000
He's always like on board to do very go with the flow.

2119
02:16:08.000 --> 02:16:10.000
Super easy going.

2120
02:16:10.000 --> 02:16:15.000
I even had to ask him like, Matthew, are you interested?

2121
02:16:15.000 --> 02:16:19.000
Um, I didn't ask him that way, but he's like, of course.

2122
02:16:19.000 --> 02:16:20.000
I mean, I told you that.

2123
02:16:20.000 --> 02:16:24.000
And I'm like, he's obviously spending nine and a half hours with you.

2124
02:16:25.000 --> 02:16:26.000
Yes.

2125
02:16:26.000 --> 02:16:27.000
Yeah, I know.

2126
02:16:27.000 --> 02:16:28.000
He shows.

2127
02:16:28.000 --> 02:16:29.000
He's interested.

2128
02:16:29.000 --> 02:16:32.000
Kind of like what we were just talking about with Susan when she was on.

2129
02:16:32.000 --> 02:16:33.000
Yep.

2130
02:16:33.000 --> 02:16:35.000
You're going to know if a guy is interested in you.

2131
02:16:35.000 --> 02:16:36.000
Yeah.

2132
02:16:36.000 --> 02:16:38.000
I think I just needed to hear it.

2133
02:16:38.000 --> 02:16:41.000
And then I was like, are you attracted to me?

2134
02:16:41.000 --> 02:16:42.000
Cause he's very good.

2135
02:16:42.000 --> 02:16:43.000
Respectfully.

2136
02:16:43.000 --> 02:16:46.000
Like he doesn't put any moves, which I love.

2137
02:16:46.000 --> 02:16:47.000
It's only like three, four.

2138
02:16:47.000 --> 02:16:49.000
It's like a month now, I think.

2139
02:16:49.000 --> 02:16:51.000
Um,

2140
02:16:51.000 --> 02:16:54.000
I feel like I touch him and flirt with him more like physically, but he's

2141
02:16:54.000 --> 02:16:56.000
like, yeah, of course.

2142
02:16:56.000 --> 02:16:57.000
Like you're beautiful.

2143
02:16:57.000 --> 02:16:58.000
Blah, blah, blah.

2144
02:16:58.000 --> 02:16:59.000
And I was like, okay.

2145
02:16:59.000 --> 02:17:01.000
And then, um,

2146
02:17:01.000 --> 02:17:05.000
I did mention like, I want to plan ahead because.

2147
02:17:05.000 --> 02:17:06.000
I usually get busy during the week.

2148
02:17:06.000 --> 02:17:09.000
And he's like, oh yeah, let's definitely plan it.

2149
02:17:09.000 --> 02:17:11.000
Thank you.

2150
02:17:11.000 --> 02:17:14.000
But then I didn't think it would be to the level of.

2151
02:17:14.000 --> 02:17:17.000
Now we have a Google doc where it goes until the very end.

2152
02:17:18.000 --> 02:17:19.000
Okay.

2153
02:17:19.000 --> 02:17:21.000
So that ended up leading into like,

2154
02:17:21.000 --> 02:17:24.000
now you've got several things planned out.

2155
02:17:24.000 --> 02:17:28.000
We have like 10 things to plan out, but 70% is my ideas.

2156
02:17:28.000 --> 02:17:29.000
Cause.

2157
02:17:29.000 --> 02:17:32.000
And he said the reason why he doesn't have all these ideas.

2158
02:17:32.000 --> 02:17:33.000
Cause he's.

2159
02:17:33.000 --> 02:17:35.000
Trying to live a sober life for two and a half years.

2160
02:17:35.000 --> 02:17:38.000
So he's in a huddle of men, like, you know, being disciples.

2161
02:17:38.000 --> 02:17:41.000
So he's like, I really love how you have all these ideas.

2162
02:17:42.000 --> 02:17:46.000
And lately he's been churning out more ideas to me is like, oh, I,

2163
02:17:46.000 --> 02:17:47.000
I thought about this and that.

2164
02:17:47.000 --> 02:17:49.000
And so he created the Google doc.

2165
02:17:49.000 --> 02:17:51.000
And then I filled it out some,

2166
02:17:51.000 --> 02:17:53.000
and then we worked on it a little bit together, but then I was like,

2167
02:17:53.000 --> 02:17:55.000
my question is mostly like.

2168
02:17:55.000 --> 02:17:57.000
That's kind of like a lot, right?

2169
02:17:57.000 --> 02:17:59.000
I mean, we're not even exclusive yet,

2170
02:17:59.000 --> 02:18:01.000
but I feel like we act like we are.

2171
02:18:01.000 --> 02:18:02.000
Like,

2172
02:18:02.000 --> 02:18:03.000
I mean,

2173
02:18:03.000 --> 02:18:06.000
we're not even exclusive yet, but I feel like we act like we are.

2174
02:18:07.000 --> 02:18:09.000
I mean, we're not even exclusive yet,

2175
02:18:09.000 --> 02:18:12.000
but I feel like we act like we kind of are already.

2176
02:18:12.000 --> 02:18:15.000
I know he's not talking to anybody else and I'm not either.

2177
02:18:15.000 --> 02:18:17.000
But I'm wondering if I should.

2178
02:18:17.000 --> 02:18:19.000
But I don't really want to.

2179
02:18:19.000 --> 02:18:20.000
I mean, I like Matthew.

2180
02:18:20.000 --> 02:18:21.000
And.

2181
02:18:21.000 --> 02:18:22.000
So.

2182
02:18:22.000 --> 02:18:24.000
We had this conversation with you about being exclusive.

2183
02:18:24.000 --> 02:18:25.000
You would be all for it.

2184
02:18:25.000 --> 02:18:27.000
Yeah.

2185
02:18:27.000 --> 02:18:28.000
You know, I've been on her calls more.

2186
02:18:28.000 --> 02:18:29.000
She would be like, no.

2187
02:18:30.000 --> 02:18:32.000
You know, because I tend to go too fast too soon.

2188
02:18:32.000 --> 02:18:33.000
Yeah.

2189
02:18:33.000 --> 02:18:35.000
I mean, I get, I understand.

2190
02:18:35.000 --> 02:18:37.000
Like, you know, we do try to help you.

2191
02:18:37.000 --> 02:18:38.000
Ladies kind of pace that.

2192
02:18:38.000 --> 02:18:42.000
So we're not jumping into things, but.

2193
02:18:42.000 --> 02:18:45.000
You know, that's, those are guardrails. That's not hard rules.

2194
02:18:45.000 --> 02:18:47.000
I mean, we're, we're looking more for.

2195
02:18:47.000 --> 02:18:49.000
Are there lots of green flags happening.

2196
02:18:49.000 --> 02:18:51.000
And just because you get an exclusive relationship.

2197
02:18:52.000 --> 02:18:54.000
Doesn't mean he's your husband.

2198
02:18:54.000 --> 02:18:55.000
Yeah.

2199
02:18:55.000 --> 02:18:57.000
It just means now.

2200
02:18:57.000 --> 02:19:00.000
The relationship is more intentional.

2201
02:19:00.000 --> 02:19:03.000
It means you are just focusing on one person.

2202
02:19:03.000 --> 02:19:06.000
And seeing.

2203
02:19:06.000 --> 02:19:10.000
Is there a possibility that this could move towards engagement?

2204
02:19:10.000 --> 02:19:13.000
Is it a pot? Like, is it there? Is there.

2205
02:19:13.000 --> 02:19:17.000
Is there enough of a solid foundation there that, that.

2206
02:19:17.000 --> 02:19:20.000
God is, is able to, to, to build something there.

2207
02:19:20.000 --> 02:19:22.000
Like, do you have the foundation?

2208
02:19:22.000 --> 02:19:24.000
For God to build what he wants to build.

2209
02:19:24.000 --> 02:19:25.000
Yeah.

2210
02:19:25.000 --> 02:19:27.000
You know? Yeah.

2211
02:19:27.000 --> 02:19:30.000
Like, yeah, I would, I, I, I.

2212
02:19:31.000 --> 02:19:33.000
Okay. Can I ask you a question? Yeah.

2213
02:19:33.000 --> 02:19:34.000
Have you guys.

2214
02:19:34.000 --> 02:19:37.000
Kissed or no, no, we haven't.

2215
02:19:37.000 --> 02:19:39.000
I wouldn't not do that unless we're exclusive.

2216
02:19:39.000 --> 02:19:42.000
We did watch the house of David and we were sitting pretty close.

2217
02:19:42.000 --> 02:19:45.000
And there was only a couple of times are like arms touch each other for

2218
02:19:45.000 --> 02:19:46.000
a bit, but I was like,

2219
02:19:46.000 --> 02:19:47.000
Oh my God.

2220
02:19:47.000 --> 02:19:48.000
Okay.

2221
02:19:49.000 --> 02:19:50.000
Okay.

2222
02:19:50.000 --> 02:19:54.000
So, so we did watch the house of David and we were sitting pretty

2223
02:19:54.000 --> 02:19:55.000
close.

2224
02:19:55.000 --> 02:19:57.000
And there was only a couple of times or like,

2225
02:19:57.000 --> 02:19:59.000
arms touch each other for a bit, but I was like,

2226
02:19:59.000 --> 02:20:00.000
Oh my God.

2227
02:20:00.000 --> 02:20:02.340
It's like, whoa, this is too tempting.

2228
02:20:02.340 --> 02:20:04.340
Okay, so here's, here's what you can do.

2229
02:20:04.340 --> 02:20:07.760
You, okay, you, you're on the, like, you're pretty comfortable with them.

2230
02:20:08.420 --> 02:20:12.640
Um, you don't have to ask him, like, you don't have to come out and ask him like,

2231
02:20:12.700 --> 02:20:15.340
so are we dating exclusively?

2232
02:20:15.360 --> 02:20:22.080
Like, we don't have to do that, but you can say, you know, we've mapped out this,

2233
02:20:22.180 --> 02:20:26.980
this plan and we're spending a lot of time together over the next several months.

2234
02:20:27.540 --> 02:20:40.240
Um, I'm curious, like, what is your, your, um, what is like your, your idea

2235
02:20:40.240 --> 02:20:45.280
of like the future, like, what are, what is your goal for the future?

2236
02:20:45.340 --> 02:20:49.940
Like, what are you, when you, when you're, um, you know, getting to know people,

2237
02:20:49.940 --> 02:20:56.520
like, what is it that you are intentionally trying to, to move towards?

2238
02:20:56.620 --> 02:20:58.080
Well, he does want to get married.

2239
02:20:58.080 --> 02:21:01.880
He's like, I'm only dating you for the intention of marriage, but I

2240
02:21:01.880 --> 02:21:03.520
usually have to ask those things.

2241
02:21:03.840 --> 02:21:04.080
Yeah.

2242
02:21:04.080 --> 02:21:05.220
I'm the one asking.

2243
02:21:05.220 --> 02:21:06.840
And I said, why am I asking you all these?

2244
02:21:06.960 --> 02:21:09.240
I mean, in a nice way, he's like, yeah, you are.

2245
02:21:09.240 --> 02:21:10.920
And he's like, I think I'm shy.

2246
02:21:11.560 --> 02:21:12.880
And I'm like, shy.

2247
02:21:13.000 --> 02:21:15.480
He's like, how long has he been sober?

2248
02:21:15.480 --> 02:21:17.000
Has he been sober two years?

2249
02:21:17.000 --> 02:21:19.520
You said two and a half years, but he hasn't had been in a

2250
02:21:19.520 --> 02:21:21.800
relationship since for six years.

2251
02:21:21.960 --> 02:21:22.320
Okay.

2252
02:21:22.760 --> 02:21:23.160
Yeah.

2253
02:21:23.800 --> 02:21:24.020
Yeah.

2254
02:21:24.020 --> 02:21:27.020
So there should, there could be some stuff that, you know, he's having to

2255
02:21:27.020 --> 02:21:28.940
learn how to do things differently too.

2256
02:21:29.340 --> 02:21:31.660
So that could be what some of that standoffishness is.

2257
02:21:31.660 --> 02:21:37.140
And so, I mean, it might be one of those things and like, okay, so I'm

2258
02:21:37.140 --> 02:21:41.940
interested to know, like, what are your thoughts about how a man

2259
02:21:41.980 --> 02:21:43.300
shows up in a relationship?

2260
02:21:45.380 --> 02:21:50.140
Like, what, what do you think, what do you think is important for a man?

2261
02:21:50.580 --> 02:21:56.140
How, for how, for what do you think is important for men to

2262
02:21:56.140 --> 02:21:57.420
do to show up in a relationship?

2263
02:21:57.580 --> 02:22:00.300
Like, how do you think they need to show up in a relationship?

2264
02:22:00.620 --> 02:22:03.220
How do you think a woman is supposed to show up in a relationship?

2265
02:22:03.580 --> 02:22:04.860
Ask those questions.

2266
02:22:06.580 --> 02:22:07.940
What do you think that looks like?

2267
02:22:08.140 --> 02:22:12.380
So for example, like my husband and I, like when we were in that

2268
02:22:12.380 --> 02:22:19.260
exclusive dating stage or moving towards that, we did talk about, you know,

2269
02:22:19.380 --> 02:22:28.540
so what is your take on, you know, marriage, like what's that look like

2270
02:22:28.540 --> 02:22:32.420
for a wife and what's that look like for a husband, especially ones that

2271
02:22:32.420 --> 02:22:36.140
have kids, because, you know, I had a kid and he had two kids and I told

2272
02:22:36.140 --> 02:22:39.540
him, I'm like, you know, obviously I'm a single mom, like, um, I'm

2273
02:22:39.540 --> 02:22:41.500
very involved in my son's school.

2274
02:22:41.940 --> 02:22:44.620
Um, I knew he had kids that were homeschooled.

2275
02:22:44.620 --> 02:22:46.260
I'm like, you homeschool kids.

2276
02:22:46.340 --> 02:22:48.140
I am all for the homeschool.

2277
02:22:48.140 --> 02:22:52.700
I just know if I'm homeschooling my kids, I can't, I would want to be

2278
02:22:52.700 --> 02:22:54.540
very much fully invested in that.

2279
02:22:54.540 --> 02:22:57.540
So I wouldn't be working and homeschooling at the same time.

2280
02:22:58.180 --> 02:23:02.820
Um, and so I'm like, but if I ever had the opportunity to homeschool

2281
02:23:02.820 --> 02:23:06.060
where I wouldn't need to work, I would 100% be all for that.

2282
02:23:07.540 --> 02:23:09.780
Like, those are conversations that I had.

2283
02:23:09.780 --> 02:23:15.460
Like I told him what I was comfortable with and what it was important to me.

2284
02:23:16.220 --> 02:23:21.180
And so then me just answering like that, he was like, well, I'm okay.

2285
02:23:21.220 --> 02:23:25.340
He's like, well, I don't see anything wrong with the wife not working.

2286
02:23:26.540 --> 02:23:30.060
And I don't even like what he was all for me, homeschooling the kids.

2287
02:23:30.140 --> 02:23:33.820
I don't even homeschool our kids now, but I still don't work full, full time.

2288
02:23:35.340 --> 02:23:36.860
And he's fully okay.

2289
02:23:36.860 --> 02:23:40.580
So that's kind of our roles because he knows I run our house.

2290
02:23:40.740 --> 02:23:43.580
So, I mean, I'm not saying like you have those kinds of conversations,

2291
02:23:43.580 --> 02:23:49.460
but, but do you see how having those, like, you're not asking for exclusivity.

2292
02:23:49.540 --> 02:23:52.780
You're just asking for what does this look like for you?

2293
02:23:52.820 --> 02:23:58.700
And you have those conversations and then it sparks, it sparks what that

2294
02:23:58.700 --> 02:24:01.620
looks like so that you guys can discuss.

2295
02:24:02.260 --> 02:24:03.380
Is it exclusivity?

2296
02:24:03.380 --> 02:24:04.660
Like you can be asking him.

2297
02:24:04.900 --> 02:24:06.300
So yeah.

2298
02:24:06.300 --> 02:24:08.700
Like, what do you, what do you think the role of the man is?

2299
02:24:08.740 --> 02:24:12.580
Do you think the man is the one that should be asking the woman if she's

2300
02:24:13.140 --> 02:24:14.860
if you want to be exclusive or not?

2301
02:24:15.540 --> 02:24:20.460
Like if that conversation comes up and you talk about a bunch of different

2302
02:24:20.460 --> 02:24:26.660
things, he might go home and sit and think about that and be like, Oh, I guess

2303
02:24:26.660 --> 02:24:30.940
I haven't asked her to be exclusive with me.

2304
02:24:32.340 --> 02:24:37.460
And so then you see how it kind of draws him in now too.

2305
02:24:38.460 --> 02:24:39.500
Yeah.

2306
02:24:39.540 --> 02:24:44.820
I was actually thinking about a question that is super relevant is like, cause

2307
02:24:44.820 --> 02:24:48.100
I've been going to single events in person here and I actually coordinate

2308
02:24:48.100 --> 02:24:52.460
single events and so I'm like, and I'm supposed to go to a singles event next

2309
02:24:52.460 --> 02:24:56.420
week and they even have a speed dating thing and I was like, should I ask him?

2310
02:24:56.460 --> 02:24:57.260
What should I do?

2311
02:24:57.260 --> 02:24:59.620
If someone asked me out like, yeah.

2312
02:25:00.000 --> 02:25:06.340
Like what do I still go to single events? I mean, you're weird. Hey, this is oh, this is perfect

2313
02:25:06.340 --> 02:25:11.840
This is what you say you'd be like, hey, you know, and he knows that you run these single events, correct?

2314
02:25:11.840 --> 02:25:17.900
Um, I mentioned it to him, but the one that I'm going to you next Saturday is not something I'm running

2315
02:25:17.900 --> 02:25:20.780
I just okay once in a while. Well, this is what you can say don't be like, hey

2316
02:25:20.780 --> 02:25:22.980
I I don't know if you're aware of this, but you know

2317
02:25:24.060 --> 02:25:27.660
part of the involvement that I have in and community is

2318
02:25:28.080 --> 02:25:32.440
You know running some single events and I do attend single events and so

2319
02:25:33.280 --> 02:25:35.280
Because we now have mapped out

2320
02:25:35.760 --> 02:25:38.960
These dates first like several months out

2321
02:25:39.840 --> 02:25:43.320
I want to be honorable to you and

2322
02:25:44.280 --> 02:25:46.280
And respect you

2323
02:25:47.400 --> 02:25:53.160
What would you feel comfortable with when I'm at these single events about what I would like

2324
02:25:53.160 --> 02:25:55.360
What would you prefer me to do if someone approaches me?

2325
02:25:56.140 --> 02:25:59.680
How like what where are you at with that I

2326
02:26:00.980 --> 02:26:01.820
and again

2327
02:26:01.820 --> 02:26:04.480
he gets to you get to put on him and just be like I

2328
02:26:04.700 --> 02:26:09.720
Wanted I want to honor and be respectful to you because I know we've we're investing a lot of time

2329
02:26:10.780 --> 02:26:12.780
How would you like me to handle that?

2330
02:26:13.780 --> 02:26:18.640
Okay, can I should I say like there's it's a single event and there's actually speed dating thing

2331
02:26:18.640 --> 02:26:23.580
Do what do you should I attend that should I not I wouldn't say that I just say how would you like me to?

2332
02:26:24.560 --> 02:26:26.560
Approach these types of situations

2333
02:26:27.480 --> 02:26:31.520
Are you comfortable with me going on these? Are you?

2334
02:26:34.120 --> 02:26:37.800
Are you comfortable like just I would I would be very just like

2335
02:26:38.680 --> 02:26:43.680
Leave the floor open for him to really be able to discuss with you first. Like I want

2336
02:26:44.280 --> 02:26:46.480
Make the question very broad

2337
02:26:47.560 --> 02:26:52.560
So that he can start having conversation and you and then by listening to him

2338
02:26:53.140 --> 02:26:57.020
Then let that draw out any other questions that you might have. Does that make sense?

2339
02:26:57.580 --> 02:27:00.620
Yeah, that makes sense. I mean I did ask him

2340
02:27:01.460 --> 02:27:03.460
something like oh

2341
02:27:03.740 --> 02:27:06.140
Do you ever think about boyfriend girlfriend? He's like

2342
02:27:06.900 --> 02:27:09.140
Yeah, I do it

2343
02:27:10.020 --> 02:27:16.540
Isn't that where we're going? I'm like, I guess I just wasn't sure where you're coming, you know, he's like that's where we're going

2344
02:27:16.540 --> 02:27:17.860
I think we're just getting to know each other

2345
02:27:17.860 --> 02:27:21.980
so I guess he was yeah, and if he said if he kind of says that just be like well, I

2346
02:27:22.660 --> 02:27:24.660
How how would it?

2347
02:27:25.260 --> 02:27:28.640
How would a woman know that she's exclusive with you? Oh

2348
02:27:30.580 --> 02:27:33.220
How would you let a woman know that she's exclusive with you

2349
02:27:33.220 --> 02:27:37.520
How would a woman know who's dating you that you want to be exclusive with her? Oh

2350
02:27:40.680 --> 02:27:42.680
Okay without asking

2351
02:27:43.300 --> 02:27:50.180
Yeah, I mean I think that like again, I just think he's he I don't he might just be one

2352
02:27:50.200 --> 02:27:52.440
He's just like really just doesn't know how to

2353
02:27:54.400 --> 02:28:01.720
Ask or do you think it's just he's like not ready cuz I don't want to be the one like I don't know

2354
02:28:03.080 --> 02:28:09.160
You know like and that's what I'm saying like and then if it really is about his sobriety

2355
02:28:10.520 --> 02:28:12.520
and

2356
02:28:13.480 --> 02:28:19.120
Again, I mean if he's been sober two and a half years and and that's the truth like

2357
02:28:20.200 --> 02:28:23.120
He he would be allowed like not that they're not I mean

2358
02:28:23.840 --> 02:28:25.840
They weren't allowed to date

2359
02:28:26.120 --> 02:28:32.080
Until two years. Yeah, I mean, oh that was because that I have I've always heard at least one year

2360
02:28:32.080 --> 02:28:36.760
No, they said two years. Okay, perfect. So that two years

2361
02:28:36.760 --> 02:28:42.800
so this would be a first for him just and you can have that conversation with him being like, you know, if

2362
02:28:44.360 --> 02:28:49.360
You need to go slower because of this I understand I

2363
02:28:50.140 --> 02:28:57.460
Would like to understand and know when you are ready for that. How would I know that you're ready?

2364
02:28:58.300 --> 02:28:59.380
and

2365
02:28:59.380 --> 02:29:06.020
Then you can say because for now I do run these single events and I do do these these

2366
02:29:06.880 --> 02:29:08.500
activities and

2367
02:29:08.500 --> 02:29:11.340
I want to be respectful and honoring to you

2368
02:29:13.940 --> 02:29:15.940
So that I'm not

2369
02:29:16.920 --> 02:29:22.460
Crossing any boundaries of yours and then I'm being respectful to you

2370
02:29:22.560 --> 02:29:25.280
But also respectful to the fact that you might not be ready yet

2371
02:29:25.960 --> 02:29:33.320
Yeah, and also respectful for me because to you it's like if he's not and he's and that's then I like

2372
02:29:33.320 --> 02:29:35.520
You can still go out and meet people. Yeah, I

2373
02:29:36.120 --> 02:29:40.520
But it does feel we and as I'm saying you guys aren't kissing you guys are not committed

2374
02:29:40.520 --> 02:29:43.160
You're not like you're not doing those things and that's why ladies

2375
02:29:43.160 --> 02:29:47.940
I like I know some people are like, but they're hanging out but but there's no

2376
02:29:48.980 --> 02:29:51.300
There's no connection. There's no

2377
02:29:52.940 --> 02:29:56.940
We're not like she's not doing stuff with someone that she wouldn't do with any friend

2378
02:29:58.260 --> 02:30:00.260
like there's not like

2379
02:30:00.000 --> 02:30:08.920
She's not holding his hand, hugging him and kissing him and talking about what their family

2380
02:30:08.920 --> 02:30:09.920
would look like.

2381
02:30:09.920 --> 02:30:10.920
No.

2382
02:30:10.920 --> 02:30:11.920
Nothing like that.

2383
02:30:11.920 --> 02:30:19.320
There's no future talk in a sense of a relationship being solid.

2384
02:30:19.320 --> 02:30:26.320
We're looking at, yeah, I'm dating you because I eventually want to move towards these things,

2385
02:30:26.320 --> 02:30:28.820
but that commitment hasn't been made.

2386
02:30:28.820 --> 02:30:34.360
So you both are free to have, get to know other people.

2387
02:30:34.360 --> 02:30:36.140
Yeah.

2388
02:30:36.140 --> 02:30:41.580
It's just, it's just Carla, it's the whole like, whoa, it dawned on me so much time.

2389
02:30:41.580 --> 02:30:47.060
And then like, we are planning out all these activities where it's like now, and you know,

2390
02:30:47.060 --> 02:30:48.780
he helps me with so many things.

2391
02:30:48.780 --> 02:30:49.780
Yeah.

2392
02:30:49.780 --> 02:30:51.740
And that's, and that's what you can have that honest conversation with him.

2393
02:30:51.740 --> 02:30:56.860
But look, like we sat down and we made all these plans and I, I guess that kind of when

2394
02:30:56.860 --> 02:31:03.160
I sat with it, it took me by surprise because now I'm sitting here thinking like, that's

2395
02:31:03.160 --> 02:31:06.200
a lot that we're committing to yet.

2396
02:31:06.200 --> 02:31:09.660
We haven't really talked about what that looks like.

2397
02:31:09.660 --> 02:31:13.600
So I'm, and I want to be respectful and honorable to you.

2398
02:31:13.600 --> 02:31:19.120
I'm curious what that looks like for you when, when you're ready, how would a girl know that

2399
02:31:19.120 --> 02:31:21.740
you want to be exclusive?

2400
02:31:21.740 --> 02:31:28.600
And until then, what, what is your comfort level with me going to singles events?

2401
02:31:28.600 --> 02:31:32.540
Because again, like I'm enjoying getting to know you.

2402
02:31:32.540 --> 02:31:35.420
I don't want to offend you.

2403
02:31:35.420 --> 02:31:43.900
I don't want to upset you, but I want to know like, what, what is your opinion on this?

2404
02:31:43.900 --> 02:31:47.820
And just because he has an opinion doesn't mean that you have to agree with it.

2405
02:31:47.820 --> 02:31:51.880
It just gives you more information, which is what we're doing in level two is getting

2406
02:31:51.880 --> 02:31:52.880
more information.

2407
02:31:52.880 --> 02:31:54.360
You're just gathering information.

2408
02:31:54.360 --> 02:32:01.200
You're learning more about what is his preference?

2409
02:32:01.200 --> 02:32:03.120
What is his comfort level?

2410
02:32:03.120 --> 02:32:07.320
What is, what does he feel in alignment with?

2411
02:32:07.320 --> 02:32:08.960
What does he feel led to do?

2412
02:32:08.960 --> 02:32:15.660
And does that then align with what God is putting on your heart to align with?

2413
02:32:15.660 --> 02:32:17.020
You're just getting information.

2414
02:32:17.020 --> 02:32:18.580
It doesn't mean that you're being rejected.

2415
02:32:18.580 --> 02:32:20.520
It doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with him.

2416
02:32:20.520 --> 02:32:25.880
It doesn't mean, but it literally is, uh, uh, are we in alignment?

2417
02:32:25.880 --> 02:32:30.440
So it's okay for me to ask this question is not having this, like I'm trying to control

2418
02:32:30.440 --> 02:32:31.440
or lead, right?

2419
02:32:31.440 --> 02:32:32.440
No.

2420
02:32:32.440 --> 02:32:36.720
As long as you're open, as long as it's the, I'm not, I'll ask you, is your heart posture

2421
02:32:36.720 --> 02:32:45.160
literally to kind of just get the information, see where he's at, not pressure and just say,

2422
02:32:45.860 --> 02:32:51.060
is it from a heart of, I'm still trying to respect and honor you, but it's also important

2423
02:32:51.060 --> 02:32:54.260
that I respect and honor myself too.

2424
02:32:54.260 --> 02:33:02.300
And, and communicating honest that planning all of these things out this far and ahead

2425
02:33:02.300 --> 02:33:10.220
did, you know, stir some things up in you and that's honest and that's okay.

2426
02:33:10.220 --> 02:33:11.220
And you can communicate that.

2427
02:33:11.220 --> 02:33:19.000
I mean, that's, this is where you ladies are learning what healthy communication looks

2428
02:33:19.000 --> 02:33:21.480
and feels like in dating.

2429
02:33:21.480 --> 02:33:26.600
But what if, what if I want him to initiate this conversation?

2430
02:33:26.600 --> 02:33:28.800
I want him to initiate this conversation.

2431
02:33:28.800 --> 02:33:32.720
You want it, but does that necessarily mean it's going to happen?

2432
02:33:32.720 --> 02:33:37.880
Does it mean like, does it mean that he can't potentially grow into leading those kinds

2433
02:33:37.880 --> 02:33:38.880
of things?

2434
02:33:38.880 --> 02:33:46.140
But is that, I mean, are you willing, like, cause here's the thing you want him to.

2435
02:33:46.140 --> 02:33:52.980
So are you going to sit and hang by and wait patiently until he does and then drive yourself

2436
02:33:52.980 --> 02:33:58.140
crazy and then try to sit here and do all these maneuvers until he, then that's just

2437
02:33:58.140 --> 02:34:00.720
gonna make you, you're gonna make yourself crazy.

2438
02:34:00.720 --> 02:34:02.620
That's the thing where I don't want to waste time.

2439
02:34:03.620 --> 02:34:04.620
But that's what I'm saying.

2440
02:34:04.620 --> 02:34:08.680
Like, that's where it's like, we've got to like, again, we're, we're all meeting each

2441
02:34:08.680 --> 02:34:17.760
other where we're at and we, we want something, we want someone to behave and act the way

2442
02:34:17.760 --> 02:34:20.240
we want them to.

2443
02:34:20.240 --> 02:34:22.080
It's not that they're not capable.

2444
02:34:22.080 --> 02:34:29.480
It just might mean they're not ready or they haven't learned how to do that and are, and

2445
02:34:29.660 --> 02:34:35.820
are they, is there a compatibility and an alignment and the potential for them to grow

2446
02:34:35.820 --> 02:34:36.820
into that?

2447
02:34:36.820 --> 02:34:37.820
Yeah.

2448
02:34:37.820 --> 02:34:42.020
I feel like every time I do ask him, he's super open.

2449
02:34:42.020 --> 02:34:43.020
He's not uncomfortable.

2450
02:34:43.020 --> 02:34:44.020
He's able to talk.

2451
02:34:44.020 --> 02:34:45.700
You're seeing, you're seeing green flags.

2452
02:34:45.700 --> 02:34:46.700
You're enjoying it.

2453
02:34:46.700 --> 02:34:51.940
You're, you're in that level two where things are still curious.

2454
02:34:51.940 --> 02:34:53.500
You're still enjoying the process.

2455
02:34:53.500 --> 02:34:55.260
You're still learning.

2456
02:34:55.260 --> 02:34:59.460
There is still some uncertainty there and that's okay.

2457
02:34:59.460 --> 02:34:59.960
You're growing.

2458
02:35:00.000 --> 02:35:05.040
you're learning, you're experiencing something new, he's probably experiencing something new.

2459
02:35:05.040 --> 02:35:15.600
Again, there's no right or wrong way to do this. I think the 90 days of waiting to go exclusive,

2460
02:35:15.600 --> 02:35:21.360
those are good guardrails to help you not rush into things for ladies that rush.

2461
02:35:22.800 --> 02:35:27.360
I'm giving you the release and the okay, you can kind of remove that for right now.

2462
02:35:28.320 --> 02:35:34.400
This is not about needing to stick to a rule. You get to remove a rule. This gets to be,

2463
02:35:35.440 --> 02:35:39.280
I'm not just trying to follow a rule. I'm just trying to learn how to do something different.

2464
02:35:39.840 --> 02:35:45.760
I'm trying to open communication differently. I'm trying to honor boundaries for myself,

2465
02:35:45.760 --> 02:35:52.480
for other people. That's what you are growing in. Okay, so here's the thing, ladies,

2466
02:35:53.040 --> 02:36:01.360
y'all can sit there and go 90 days, and then wait 90 days, and then go exclusive. And then

2467
02:36:01.360 --> 02:36:06.080
guess what? You'll still be finding yourself in the same situation. You just took 90 days to get

2468
02:36:06.080 --> 02:36:18.080
there. Right? It's about do something with those 90 days. Don't stay stuck doing the same thing

2469
02:36:18.080 --> 02:36:22.880
that you've always done in those 90 days and think after 90 days, it's a magical number and

2470
02:36:22.880 --> 02:36:27.200
something different is going to happen. No, it's what do you do with those 90 days?

2471
02:36:28.240 --> 02:36:31.600
What are you going to do differently in those 90 days that you never did before?

2472
02:36:32.880 --> 02:36:36.800
What are you doing differently in this connection, in this situation,

2473
02:36:36.800 --> 02:36:40.240
in this relationship that's differently that you didn't do in the past?

2474
02:36:41.040 --> 02:36:45.440
That's what I want you looking at. It's going to be different. It's going to feel

2475
02:36:45.440 --> 02:36:53.200
uncomfortable at times because it's new. And he's different. He doesn't respond like the men that

2476
02:36:53.200 --> 02:36:58.800
you've had before. He's very go with the flow. He's probably more standoffish, just like whatever,

2477
02:36:58.800 --> 02:37:07.200
you know? But you also want to make sure that you're not sitting in this place of control.

2478
02:37:07.200 --> 02:37:14.160
And I agree with that. You don't want to show up in control, but I also don't want you to sit

2479
02:37:14.160 --> 02:37:23.760
there and think not doing anything at all is not control. Yeah. So if he says, oh, I wouldn't like

2480
02:37:23.760 --> 02:37:30.800
that, but I can't like hold you back. I mean, what am I saying? And just say, thank you for sharing

2481
02:37:31.600 --> 02:37:42.240
that with me. So help me understand when would I know that you're ready to be exclusive? And then

2482
02:37:42.240 --> 02:37:50.880
that would be off the table. Okay. And he's going to have to decide. And guess what? That's on him.

2483
02:37:53.280 --> 02:37:58.960
You just sit there and just be like, okay, he might not be. And guess what? Then I'm going to

2484
02:37:58.960 --> 02:38:07.360
sit and ask you, if he says that, what are you believing on the inside? Is there something that

2485
02:38:07.360 --> 02:38:14.640
needs to get sorted out in here? If he says, oh, I want to be okay with that, but there's nothing

2486
02:38:14.640 --> 02:38:25.680
I can do because we're not exclusive. What's that mean for you? Well, I think the only question I

2487
02:38:25.680 --> 02:38:30.640
would have about myself is, did I ask it in the right timing? Other than that, I'd be like,

2488
02:38:31.360 --> 02:38:36.000
that's his problem. But like, I just don't. I wouldn't even question yourself about your timing.

2489
02:38:36.000 --> 02:38:42.960
I think it's, you're free to ask these questions because you guys are spending a lot of time

2490
02:38:42.960 --> 02:38:47.520
together. Oh, we're planning to, we started and we're planning time together. Exactly.

2491
02:38:48.720 --> 02:38:53.520
So it's okay. It's okay. If that's something that you're requesting, like that's okay.

2492
02:38:53.840 --> 02:38:59.760
It's just whether or not you're trying to control, manipulate, try to handle this,

2493
02:39:00.640 --> 02:39:05.040
you're sacrificing your own needs, desires, and wants, you're being okay with something,

2494
02:39:05.040 --> 02:39:10.000
even though you're not okay with it. Like, I don't want you stepping out of who you are and

2495
02:39:10.000 --> 02:39:17.920
who God's created you to be. And I also don't want you to align with anything about like,

2496
02:39:18.400 --> 02:39:21.200
if he's not ready, that has something to do with you.

2497
02:39:23.360 --> 02:39:27.680
Maybe he's just not ready. He's got some other things that he wants to sort out with it. And

2498
02:39:27.680 --> 02:39:32.720
guess what? That would be okay. Maybe he needs to get some things sorted out with himself before

2499
02:39:32.720 --> 02:39:38.240
he gets into an exclusive relationship. And who knows, maybe it needs to get sorted out and it

2500
02:39:38.240 --> 02:39:41.920
gets sorted out in three months. And then you get in an exclusive relationship with it. And then

2501
02:39:42.640 --> 02:39:50.720
that's exactly what he needed. But if you would have rushed it, rushed the exclusivity sooner

2502
02:39:51.280 --> 02:39:56.640
when he wasn't ready, then guess what? That wouldn't fall in alignment, would it?

2503
02:39:57.440 --> 02:39:59.840
And would that relationship actually unfold to a

2504
02:40:00.000 --> 02:40:04.480
what God would have potentially wanted it to turn into.

2505
02:40:05.760 --> 02:40:08.760
Because we now are stepping into what we want,

2506
02:40:08.760 --> 02:40:11.800
not what God's leading us to.

2507
02:40:12.720 --> 02:40:15.720
Because now, it's not just about us, it's about two people.

2508
02:40:17.120 --> 02:40:19.880
Two people and what God is directing both people,

2509
02:40:19.880 --> 02:40:22.840
because that's, I mean, that's marriage.

2510
02:40:22.840 --> 02:40:24.680
My husband came to me yesterday,

2511
02:40:25.980 --> 02:40:29.560
and he's like, I need to process something with you.

2512
02:40:30.000 --> 02:40:33.160
His partner came to him with this thing,

2513
02:40:33.160 --> 02:40:36.500
and he's like, laying something down on him

2514
02:40:36.500 --> 02:40:39.280
about potentially going into W-2 work again,

2515
02:40:39.280 --> 02:40:42.360
and my husband is not interested in doing W-2 work,

2516
02:40:42.360 --> 02:40:43.920
you know, he works for himself.

2517
02:40:45.000 --> 02:40:50.000
And what I said to my husband, I'm like, okay,

2518
02:40:50.040 --> 02:40:51.640
it was a lot for me to process,

2519
02:40:51.640 --> 02:40:52.680
because I'm like, I'm gonna sit here

2520
02:40:52.680 --> 02:40:57.680
and process things out of my own needs and wants,

2521
02:40:57.960 --> 02:40:59.960
and my own fears as a wife,

2522
02:41:01.120 --> 02:41:02.800
because you're sitting here talking about your job

2523
02:41:02.800 --> 02:41:04.280
and finances and all that kind of stuff,

2524
02:41:04.280 --> 02:41:09.280
and I'm like, that certainly affects me.

2525
02:41:10.120 --> 02:41:11.720
And so this is what I told him, I said,

2526
02:41:11.720 --> 02:41:16.000
honey, I need you to go write down

2527
02:41:17.040 --> 02:41:19.120
what it is that you want,

2528
02:41:19.120 --> 02:41:22.160
and what it is that you're concerned with,

2529
02:41:22.160 --> 02:41:24.280
what you think your partner wants,

2530
02:41:24.280 --> 02:41:26.600
and what you think your partner's concerned with.

2531
02:41:26.600 --> 02:41:28.920
I said, write all that out,

2532
02:41:28.920 --> 02:41:31.520
I said, go spend time with the Lord with it.

2533
02:41:31.520 --> 02:41:34.240
I said, when I get that, I said, I can read it,

2534
02:41:34.240 --> 02:41:36.520
if I have questions for you, I can come to you,

2535
02:41:36.520 --> 02:41:39.160
and I'm like, then I'm gonna go take all of that

2536
02:41:39.160 --> 02:41:40.880
to the Lord, privately.

2537
02:41:42.280 --> 02:41:44.040
I'm gonna go talk to the Lord about it,

2538
02:41:44.040 --> 02:41:46.200
you're gonna go talk to the Lord about it,

2539
02:41:46.200 --> 02:41:49.080
and guess what, we're married, we're in covenant.

2540
02:41:50.280 --> 02:41:53.520
We went before God and took a vow

2541
02:41:53.520 --> 02:41:55.840
to put him at the center of our marriage.

2542
02:41:55.840 --> 02:41:58.080
He's not gonna sit here and say something to me

2543
02:41:58.080 --> 02:42:00.600
that he's not gonna say something to you.

2544
02:42:00.600 --> 02:42:02.960
Whatever he says to me, and whatever he says to you,

2545
02:42:02.960 --> 02:42:05.320
will be in alignment if he wants us to do it.

2546
02:42:08.240 --> 02:42:13.240
But if God is telling me, nope, give it 90 days, Carla,

2547
02:42:14.680 --> 02:42:16.240
I'm gonna go tell my husband, like, you know, honey,

2548
02:42:16.240 --> 02:42:17.920
I don't have peace about it,

2549
02:42:17.920 --> 02:42:20.160
because I feel like God is wanting us to wait for 90 days,

2550
02:42:20.160 --> 02:42:23.120
and I don't know why, but we just need to wait for 90 days.

2551
02:42:23.120 --> 02:42:24.000
My husband's gonna be like,

2552
02:42:24.000 --> 02:42:26.400
okay, well, the Lord told me this,

2553
02:42:26.400 --> 02:42:29.760
but if the Lord said 90 days, then we'll shelf that.

2554
02:42:29.760 --> 02:42:31.680
Well, we're gonna come into alignment,

2555
02:42:31.680 --> 02:42:33.560
we're gonna take those steps.

2556
02:42:37.600 --> 02:42:41.480
You don't wanna rush anything just out of our own stuff.

2557
02:42:41.480 --> 02:42:44.840
Like, my husband is the type of person that will typically,

2558
02:42:44.840 --> 02:42:48.280
he gets a feather up his behind, and he just wants to move.

2559
02:42:48.280 --> 02:42:51.520
Like, he is a, he's an entrepreneur at heart,

2560
02:42:51.520 --> 02:42:54.360
he's like, let's, I've got this idea, let's do it.

2561
02:42:54.360 --> 02:42:57.040
And I'm like, well, that's a great idea,

2562
02:42:57.880 --> 02:43:01.400
let's pray and plan about it.

2563
02:43:02.640 --> 02:43:05.560
And, because I'm like, I have a lot of ideas too,

2564
02:43:05.560 --> 02:43:08.040
but I'm like, a little more practical.

2565
02:43:08.040 --> 02:43:11.480
I'm like, let's see how God wants to unfold this.

2566
02:43:11.480 --> 02:43:15.640
My husband sometimes gets so excited, he leads with that,

2567
02:43:16.520 --> 02:43:18.720
and we've gotten burned before doing that.

2568
02:43:19.720 --> 02:43:23.280
We went and signed contracts on things before,

2569
02:43:23.280 --> 02:43:28.280
and it put us in a really, really tough position,

2570
02:43:29.720 --> 02:43:33.280
because we didn't stop and like, both speak to the Lord,

2571
02:43:33.280 --> 02:43:36.080
and then like, we just made the decision together,

2572
02:43:36.080 --> 02:43:39.400
and I was just like, okay, honey, whatever you wanna do.

2573
02:43:39.400 --> 02:43:44.400
No, because he wanted what he wanted,

2574
02:43:44.760 --> 02:43:47.720
not what the Lord was guiding us to,

2575
02:43:48.280 --> 02:43:51.000
because guess what, the Lord was telling me,

2576
02:43:51.000 --> 02:43:54.800
like Carla, I don't, that's a, I'm unsettled with that,

2577
02:43:54.800 --> 02:43:58.560
and your husband needs to know there's an unsettling there,

2578
02:43:58.560 --> 02:44:00.320
so there needs to be a halt.

2579
02:44:01.760 --> 02:44:03.360
Let me figure and sort things out.

2580
02:44:03.360 --> 02:44:05.400
That's why we're better together, y'all.

2581
02:44:06.320 --> 02:44:08.440
That's why it's good to have two people in marriage,

2582
02:44:08.440 --> 02:44:09.720
because guess what?

2583
02:44:11.120 --> 02:44:15.960
You actually check each other before rushing into something

2584
02:44:16.240 --> 02:44:18.520
and stepping into our own will.

2585
02:44:19.360 --> 02:44:22.280
So I would encourage you,

2586
02:44:22.280 --> 02:44:26.840
don't worry so much about the emphasis

2587
02:44:26.840 --> 02:44:29.200
of if he's ready or not.

2588
02:44:29.200 --> 02:44:32.160
Just trust that God is moving and doing

2589
02:44:32.160 --> 02:44:35.160
what God needs to do in his life,

2590
02:44:35.160 --> 02:44:37.200
while God is moving and doing things

2591
02:44:37.200 --> 02:44:39.160
that he needs to do in your life.

2592
02:44:40.320 --> 02:44:43.080
Yeah, so I was gonna say, just because I asked a question,

2593
02:44:43.080 --> 02:44:46.840
doesn't mean I'm saying I wanna be exclusive with him.

2594
02:44:46.840 --> 02:44:49.240
It's just, I wanna have a discussion.

2595
02:44:49.240 --> 02:44:50.960
I just wanna check in where are we at.

2596
02:44:50.960 --> 02:44:53.480
It's not like, oh, tell me when you're exclusive,

2597
02:44:53.480 --> 02:44:56.200
and when you're ready to be exclusive, I will be ready.

2598
02:44:56.200 --> 02:44:57.800
It doesn't mean that, necessarily, either.

2599
02:44:57.800 --> 02:45:00.200
No, it's just, I wanna know where this pace is.

2600
02:45:00.000 --> 02:45:09.400
going so that I can plan and spend time with the Lord about this and see if the Lord is

2601
02:45:09.400 --> 02:45:14.920
giving me clarity and wisdom and the green light.

2602
02:45:14.920 --> 02:45:17.140
But I'm just checking in.

2603
02:45:17.140 --> 02:45:18.760
Are we on that page?

2604
02:45:18.760 --> 02:45:20.280
Are we moving in that direction?

2605
02:45:20.280 --> 02:45:23.880
And if we are, how am I going to know that?

2606
02:45:23.880 --> 02:45:28.520
And just say, because I've noticed that sometimes you are, like, one thing I like about you

2607
02:45:28.520 --> 02:45:34.000
is that you are go-with-the-flow, you're very easygoing, however, that's not something that

2608
02:45:34.000 --> 02:45:35.920
I'm used to.

2609
02:45:35.920 --> 02:45:42.480
I've never experienced guys that I've spent time with that have that personality, so I

2610
02:45:42.480 --> 02:45:44.880
don't know what to expect.

2611
02:45:44.880 --> 02:45:51.360
So I'm trying to learn what that looks like, so I need your help in communicating to me

2612
02:45:51.360 --> 02:45:53.320
where you're at.

2613
02:45:53.320 --> 02:45:56.280
Does that make sense?

2614
02:45:56.280 --> 02:45:57.280
Yeah.

2615
02:45:57.280 --> 02:45:58.280
Totally.

2616
02:45:59.040 --> 02:46:03.000
You're learning and you're building new muscles here.

2617
02:46:03.000 --> 02:46:06.960
Like you're working some muscles that you haven't worked before.

2618
02:46:06.960 --> 02:46:11.640
So it's going to feel, you're going to feel that burn afterwards, and then you're going

2619
02:46:11.640 --> 02:46:15.400
to be like, I don't know if I can lift this, I don't know if I can do it because I've never

2620
02:46:15.400 --> 02:46:16.400
done it.

2621
02:46:16.400 --> 02:46:17.400
No, you haven't.

2622
02:46:17.400 --> 02:46:18.400
But guess what?

2623
02:46:18.400 --> 02:46:22.960
You're not going to start off, like, with a hundred pound weight.

2624
02:46:22.960 --> 02:46:23.960
You can't do that.

2625
02:46:23.960 --> 02:46:26.280
You're going to start off with, like, one of those two or three pound weights, and you're

2626
02:46:26.280 --> 02:46:27.280
going to start there.

2627
02:46:27.280 --> 02:46:28.840
Like, okay, I'm comfortable with this.

2628
02:46:28.840 --> 02:46:32.880
Now I'm going to go pick up a five or ten pound weight, and then I'm going to go pick

2629
02:46:32.880 --> 02:46:33.880
up another.

2630
02:46:33.880 --> 02:46:36.600
Like, you see how we gradually move on?

2631
02:46:36.600 --> 02:46:37.600
I kind of said that earlier.

2632
02:46:37.600 --> 02:46:41.120
I'm going to gradually move on.

2633
02:46:41.120 --> 02:46:42.120
Okay?

2634
02:46:42.120 --> 02:46:43.120
Okay.

2635
02:46:43.120 --> 02:46:48.800
All right, y'all, I, this is the longest I think I've ever gone.

2636
02:46:48.800 --> 02:46:53.800
I feel like I'm going to get in so much trouble.

2637
02:46:53.800 --> 02:47:01.080
I, do you know, good dating site for, in order to meet people intentionally.

2638
02:47:01.080 --> 02:47:04.920
The only thing that's coming up in my spirit about-

2639
02:47:04.920 --> 02:47:06.920
Internationally, not intentionally.

2640
02:47:06.920 --> 02:47:07.920
International.

2641
02:47:07.920 --> 02:47:08.920
Oh, thank you.

2642
02:47:08.920 --> 02:47:09.920
I thought you said intentionally.

2643
02:47:09.920 --> 02:47:14.760
Y'all been on this computer for way too long.

2644
02:47:14.760 --> 02:47:19.200
International.

2645
02:47:19.200 --> 02:47:24.780
I feel like part of the delay in me moving is because I was trying to move back to something

2646
02:47:24.780 --> 02:47:28.600
that was familiar, and I knew what it was.

2647
02:47:28.600 --> 02:47:29.600
It's where I left.

2648
02:47:29.600 --> 02:47:36.520
I left Florida when I made the big move out of fear, but my heart's desire has always

2649
02:47:36.520 --> 02:47:41.800
been for as long as I can remember to live internationally, and I've always felt more

2650
02:47:41.800 --> 02:47:48.060
comfortable in other countries than I've ever felt in the U.S., except for when I lived

2651
02:47:48.060 --> 02:47:52.300
in Hawaii, and that's like living in its own country in and of itself.

2652
02:47:52.300 --> 02:47:54.060
It's a very different culture.

2653
02:47:54.060 --> 02:47:58.460
It's a whole different cultural aspect of things.

2654
02:47:58.460 --> 02:48:06.780
Well, I'm even like, the thing that's coming up for me, like what I'm hearing is, I don't

2655
02:48:06.780 --> 02:48:11.820
know if you necessarily need to go on a site that's specific to dating internationally,

2656
02:48:11.820 --> 02:48:19.420
but more or less, you getting on sites where there might be potentially, you're going to

2657
02:48:19.420 --> 02:48:25.980
probably want a pond that has a big pond, where there's the potential for somebody who

2658
02:48:25.980 --> 02:48:32.980
maybe lives in another country or someone who they themselves, like you might find someone

2659
02:48:32.980 --> 02:48:41.180
that lives in another state that's wanting to also have that same part and same thing

2660
02:48:41.180 --> 02:48:45.300
that God's put in them to live internationally.

2661
02:48:45.300 --> 02:48:49.020
Doesn't necessarily mean that they're living there now, but what if they're living somewhere

2662
02:48:49.020 --> 02:48:54.100
and God's saying, hey, I want you to go to Florida, because there is someone there that

2663
02:48:54.100 --> 02:49:00.660
you are going to go live internationally somewhere, but it doesn't necessarily mean that they're

2664
02:49:00.660 --> 02:49:08.940
internationally now, but they also have the heart to travel and be international and live

2665
02:49:08.980 --> 02:49:16.340
somewhere, or you connect with somebody who knows someone that's living overseas.

2666
02:49:16.340 --> 02:49:21.820
Like you see what I'm saying, like I don't, and this is what God has been even kind of

2667
02:49:21.820 --> 02:49:29.100
showing me lately, is don't put God in a box of what he can do and how he can do it.

2668
02:49:29.100 --> 02:49:34.100
If God is telling you, hey, I want you to live internationally and you're going to be

2669
02:49:34.260 --> 02:49:37.260
married, just trust that.

2670
02:49:37.260 --> 02:49:40.260
He's telling you, he doesn't lie.

2671
02:49:40.260 --> 02:49:44.260
Okay, Lord, well, however you're going to do that, you need to make that very clear,

2672
02:49:44.260 --> 02:49:49.260
because that's a pretty, very particular promise, right?

2673
02:49:49.260 --> 02:49:55.260
So, Lord, I'm going to need you to show me what that looks like.

2674
02:49:55.260 --> 02:49:59.260
So, you make sure that you make it very clear to me.

2675
02:49:59.260 --> 02:50:00.260
Sometimes the Lord doesn't.

2676
02:50:00.000 --> 02:50:03.120
Ladies, sometimes the Lord will do that.

2677
02:50:03.120 --> 02:50:06.680
He will give us a very specific, and we think it's impossible,

2678
02:50:06.680 --> 02:50:09.280
but then he makes it so possible,

2679
02:50:09.280 --> 02:50:11.720
then we can't deny it, and then that's

2680
02:50:11.720 --> 02:50:12.840
when we know it's the Lord.

2681
02:50:12.840 --> 02:50:17.200
I'm very thankful, because God told me very clearly,

2682
02:50:17.200 --> 02:50:18.520
and I was just like, well, God, you're just

2683
02:50:18.520 --> 02:50:19.720
going to have to do something.

2684
02:50:19.720 --> 02:50:24.280
And he made it very apparent that my husband was my husband.

2685
02:50:24.280 --> 02:50:29.320
When he moved us to Hawaii, it was 100% God the whole way.

2686
02:50:29.840 --> 02:50:33.200
So it's like, OK, I can't argue with God right now.

2687
02:50:33.200 --> 02:50:35.920
So when the enemy wants to come in and sit here and try

2688
02:50:35.920 --> 02:50:38.480
to ruffle our feathers and make me think,

2689
02:50:38.480 --> 02:50:40.280
maybe I should have never moved to Texas,

2690
02:50:40.280 --> 02:50:44.840
maybe I should have never, no, Carla,

2691
02:50:44.840 --> 02:50:49.880
I told you what I promised you, and I wasn't lying,

2692
02:50:49.880 --> 02:50:54.520
and I did everything I said I was going to do.

2693
02:50:54.520 --> 02:50:57.720
It just doesn't look the way you thought it was going to look.

2694
02:50:57.720 --> 02:51:01.200
You've got to be open to how I want to do it, Carla.

2695
02:51:01.200 --> 02:51:04.520
You've got to be willing to walk in my will.

2696
02:51:04.520 --> 02:51:06.280
Stop trying to make it what you think

2697
02:51:06.280 --> 02:51:10.680
it's supposed to look like, and just trust that I've got you.

2698
02:51:10.680 --> 02:51:14.960
You've got to trust, ladies, in that uncertainty.

2699
02:51:14.960 --> 02:51:19.080
You've got to have peace in not having the understanding,

2700
02:51:19.080 --> 02:51:22.040
and trust the one who does.

2701
02:51:22.040 --> 02:51:24.040
He's got it worked out.

2702
02:51:24.080 --> 02:51:27.920
He's not asking for our help to work it out,

2703
02:51:27.920 --> 02:51:30.640
because he's already got it figured out.

2704
02:51:30.640 --> 02:51:33.960
So I just pray about, like, just ask me, like, Lord,

2705
02:51:33.960 --> 02:51:35.000
I just need some peace.

2706
02:51:35.000 --> 02:51:37.240
Give me some options, and give me

2707
02:51:37.240 --> 02:51:42.480
a peace about one to just go ahead and jump into.

2708
02:51:42.480 --> 02:51:45.720
I enjoyed Facebook dating.

2709
02:51:45.720 --> 02:51:47.600
That was me.

2710
02:51:47.600 --> 02:51:50.600
Like, that was the one I was most comfortable with.

2711
02:51:50.600 --> 02:51:53.240
That was the one I felt like Bethany had success with it.

2712
02:51:53.240 --> 02:51:55.000
I think Renee had success with it.

2713
02:51:55.000 --> 02:51:56.920
I had, like, I had success with it.

2714
02:51:56.920 --> 02:51:58.360
I didn't meet my husband through Facebook dating,

2715
02:51:58.360 --> 02:52:02.160
but I actually met my husband sort of through Facebook.

2716
02:52:02.160 --> 02:52:05.840
Like, just be open.

2717
02:52:05.840 --> 02:52:10.160
Be open to whoever God wants to introduce you to.

2718
02:52:10.160 --> 02:52:13.240
That would be my wisdom right there.

2719
02:52:13.240 --> 02:52:13.840
OK.

2720
02:52:13.840 --> 02:52:14.960
OK?

2721
02:52:14.960 --> 02:52:17.120
All right, ladies, I appreciate you so much.

2722
02:52:17.120 --> 02:52:21.520
Thank you for being patient with me and staying on.

2723
02:52:21.520 --> 02:52:22.360
Y'all are wonderful.

2724
02:52:22.360 --> 02:52:23.640
I love you.

2725
02:52:23.640 --> 02:52:25.080
I'm just making sure I call every.

2726
02:52:29.360 --> 02:52:30.760
The question I got for your husband

2727
02:52:30.760 --> 02:52:32.840
was what does God want to do with his company?

2728
02:52:32.840 --> 02:52:35.360
You know, not him and his partner,

2729
02:52:35.360 --> 02:52:38.160
what does God want to do with the company?

2730
02:52:38.160 --> 02:52:41.160
Yeah, and God's been doing some things to me and my husband.

2731
02:52:41.160 --> 02:52:45.080
So that's been, like, we're both feeling like God's just

2732
02:52:45.080 --> 02:52:48.080
bringing us a lot of breakthrough

2733
02:52:48.080 --> 02:52:49.480
on a lot of things we've been praying

2734
02:52:49.480 --> 02:52:50.960
for over the last three years.

2735
02:52:50.960 --> 02:52:54.840
And so that's why I told him, like, honey, I hope you're OK,

2736
02:52:54.840 --> 02:52:56.320
because I got 90 days.

2737
02:52:56.320 --> 02:52:59.240
All of June, all of July, all of August, God's like,

2738
02:52:59.240 --> 02:53:02.720
Carly, you have no, you are just going to wake up and do

2739
02:53:02.720 --> 02:53:03.680
what I tell you to do.

2740
02:53:03.680 --> 02:53:04.520
And I'm like, OK.

2741
02:53:08.400 --> 02:53:09.240
I'm like, all right.

2742
02:53:09.240 --> 02:53:10.760
And so my husband's like, well, I've

2743
02:53:10.760 --> 02:53:13.640
been fasting for like three or, I

2744
02:53:13.640 --> 02:53:15.200
think this is his fourth week fasting,

2745
02:53:15.200 --> 02:53:17.560
so he's got three more weeks after this.

2746
02:53:17.560 --> 02:53:21.680
I'm like, honey, I hope he starts doing some work in you

2747
02:53:21.680 --> 02:53:25.600
right now, because I feel like I'm getting all of it.

2748
02:53:25.600 --> 02:53:27.800
But yeah, so.

2749
02:53:27.800 --> 02:53:30.800
All right, ladies, I appreciate you all.

2750
02:53:30.800 --> 02:53:36.160
And keep your posts coming in the app, OK, ladies?

2751
02:53:36.160 --> 02:53:37.760
All right, talk to you soon.

2752
02:53:37.760 --> 02:53:38.360
Bye.

2753
02:53:38.360 --> 02:53:39.920
Bye.
