Hi ladies, welcome to our 8 p.m. evening session of heartwork tonight.
So glad to be here with all of you.
If you've never met me before, my name is Bethany Cooper.
I'm one of the master heartwork coaches here in the community.
I think some of you I met for the first time this afternoon.
If you're new, you're joining us for the first time tonight.
Would love for you to put that in the chat so that we can welcome you.
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So anyone new joining us tonight, so if you joined live session this afternoon, that technically
was your first live session.
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of heartwork.
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Supernatural Saturday, if y'all didn't hear it yet, it is on What Does God Say?
But man, it's packed full of so much more than that, so highly recommend you take a
listen to that when you can.
That's under the replay tab.
If you didn't know, we put up what we call a weekly roll call post on Sundays.
This is basically a recap of those Supernatural Saturday calls.
If we do just a Saturday that's prayer, we don't tend to put those up for that, but those
are not to take place of listening to the Supernatural Saturday.
It's supposed to be kind of like an additional component to help you read and kind of process
and meditate and help you just have some of the key takeaways that you can go back and
reference in the days and weeks ahead.
Again, welcome if you're just now joining us, so glad to have you here with us tonight.
Please let me know in the chat if you're joining us for the first time, if this is
your first live session.
We want to welcome you.
Again, welcome back to all my ladies that have been here before.
All right, so Emma, first time, welcome.
The only person I see on screen tonight is myself, so you all know what I'm about to
say for those of you that have been here before.
Would love to see you all come on screen and be here with me so I'm not staring at myself
and your name on your screen.
It really changes and transforms the experience of our HeartWork Live sessions, and so love
to see you all come on screen.
Thanks Kim and Catherine.
I know sometimes people aren't able, so totally get that, but if you're able, would love to
see you.
So this evening, we're going to talk about submission.
I'm going to go ahead and pray.
I do have some other thoughts that I want to share with you before I dive into the submission,
and so we're going to go ahead and get started right now.
Father, thank you.
Thank you for everything that you're doing in our hearts and our lives, God.
We thank you for just grace and forgiveness in the difficult moments, God.
We thank you for revealings, for healing that are already happening.
God, we know that you're the one that brings supernatural revelation and insight and breakthrough.
God, we know that your truth is what sets us free, but also Lord, our response to the
truth.
Lord, help us to hear what your spirit is saying louder than any voice of the enemy
and to partner with that truth and to unlearn the negative lies and behaviors and mindsets
that we've partnered with for some of us for many years, some of us our whole lives.
Some of us grew up hearing certain things that just don't sound like heaven.
So Lord, I pray that you would help us to come out of alignment and agreement with lies
that don't sound like you, that do not emanate the heart and the mind of heaven, and I thank
you that you would help us to come further into alignment with your truth, with your
freedom, with your hope, with your life.
God, we know that you are the one that transforms us from the inside out, and we're just asking
you to have your way in our hearts, our minds, our bodies, our spirits, and our souls.
Yes, Lord, help us to dial in tonight, to really hone in and hear and lean into what
you're saying to us and help us to be able to apply it in the days to come.
to come in Jesus name. So a couple things I shared with the ladies this afternoon, right
before I logged in, I actually led the 1pm session today as well, for at least the beginning
part because Andrea had an appointment. And where I sit here in the house to do my live
sessions at this time, it kind of faces all of our front windows of our house and for
a couple weeks now I haven't opened the windows just because people can kind of see right
in too. But today I felt led earlier today to open the windows and I was just sitting
here for a few minutes before the first live session and the way that our house is set
up, we're literally across from an elementary school and where I'm looking when the windows
open is like straight across to a playground. Now school is out for summer and so today
the playground was empty you all, no activity over there. And literally I was just kind
of contemplating that just a few weeks ago, maybe even a week ago, it was full. There
were kids running around all over the place, screaming, chasing each other, one group after
the other after the other when they would go to recess. Why am I sharing that with you
tonight? Well here's why. As I was contemplating the change from just one week to the next
and then I started thinking about the fact that right now the playground looks empty,
seems empty, looks empty, it is empty when I'm looking at it. But the reality is that
playground still has potential, it still has a purpose and so even though there's not kids
running around on it right now, the playground still has the same purpose, it still has the
same capabilities, it's just that the season is different right now. And I started thinking
about how that can apply to our love stories, that so many of us are looking at our situations
and we're looking at it and we're like, paraphrasing here, the playground's empty, my love story
is empty, this is broken, I can't do this, God picks everybody else but he doesn't pick
me. We're looking at this scenario and we're deciding that there's no potential there because
all we can see is what our physical eyes see in that moment. But what I want to encourage
you and ask you and invite you into tonight is to expand the way that you're looking at
your life, at your heart healing journey, at the process that God has you in, your love
story. Remember we believe, or excuse me, we become what we believe. So if you're believing
that God's never going to come through for you, well isn't that kind of contradicting
the whole journey of going towards your love story? And you're internally sabotaging your
own love story because it says that we can't be double-minded, right? So tonight I want
to invite you to come a little further out of double-mindedness, to really continue to
ask the Lord to reveal the lies that you're believing that are causing you to think negative
things about yourself, your love story, about God's promises for you, that are causing you
to look at your story, to look at your life and see all the things that it's not versus
what it is, what is happening, how far have you grown even in a day, maybe a week. Some
of you have grown exponentially even in the few months' time that you've been here in
the program. But so often we're looking at other people's lives and we're comparing ourselves
to where they're at, what they have, and then we're partnering with the lie, we don't have
it and maybe we're never going to have it, which is what the enemy wants us to do. I
loved the powerful statement when Jackie was talking on Saturday, the reality is this,
the enemy, when she was talking, if you all haven't heard it yet, again, just another
plug, she was talking about how God was the one that created, the enemy can't create,
and then God created us and he put everything in us that enables us to create things with
our words, with the things that we do. And so why does the enemy try to get us to believe
a lie and then speak a lie and partner with that? Well, because we're the only ones that
can create something. And so if we're partnering with the lies and we're, we're speaking death,
if you will, well, then we're creating something negative. And it's counter acting against
the positive. Again, God understands why we can be double-minded at times. You know,
the man in the Bible that said, I believe, help my unbelief. I believe that was written
in there because God understands the reality of what we face. Jesus was always God, even
though he came down in the form of man. We have to learn how to become like Christ. We
have to learn how
to think like Christ. So tonight, where do you need to come out of agreement with the lie that
your season, your playground if you will, your love story isn't happening, isn't going to happen
because you're looking at it right now and you're just looking at it from the lens of,
I don't see anything working, I don't see anything happening. But the spirit is crying out to say,
are you going to ask me, imagine the Holy Spirit asking you this, are you going to ask me to show
you what I see for your love story, what I see for your life, what I see for your destiny,
whose report are we going to believe, who are we going to partner with? And y'all, I'm not saying
this is easy, okay? It is a battle for our minds, for our hope, for the promises that God has for
us, but God hasn't put us in this battle to not be victorious. He gave us all the ability to be
victorious. He sent Jesus, his one and only son to die on the cross, to shed his blood for our
freedom, for our victory, and part of our journey of sanctification is learning how to become like
Christ, but also learning how to apply the blood of Christ, the truth of the power of who he is
to our life and our story. It's a learning, it's something that's going to take time.
And so randomly enough, I've still been kind of struggling with sickness and getting over,
and this afternoon I just felt like the poor ladies heard me just still so congested, so
I decided to make a cup of tea for tonight, just in case if I'm having trouble, and just to clear
up my throat and stuff. And I know this might seem like how does this connect, but I just didn't
think this was an accident. My little teabag thing says the creation of a thousand forests
is in one acorn. One acorn can create a whole forest, and I just stood there kind of thinking,
well it's really the same thing regarding a positive thought. One positive thought
could create a whole forest of growth in your life. So where do you need an upgrade in the
revelation of God's plan, his thoughts towards you, your love story? Asking for the upgrades,
lady. I can't do it without him. Even this afternoon I got so frustrated with something
someone was doing, not in our community, outside of the community here, and even tonight I was just
like, Lord, forgive me for being so frustrated, because that's not where I want to be. That's not
where I want to live. Yes, I feel things, but man, I want my flesh under subjection.
I want to think what God thinks. So as we talk tonight, we're going to talk about submission,
and I didn't even make this connection until right now, but part of the way we learn to
walk in submission is to also get our minds, our thoughts to submit to the truth of Christ. That's
why the Bible talks about take every thought captive and make it obedient to Jesus Christ,
to the truth of his word. So we partner with God in that process. Now that isn't exactly the angle
that I was going to bring submission tonight, and I used that scripture this afternoon, but I didn't
even think about the fact that that is us submitting to the word of God and the word of truth
over ourselves and our life and our story. So tonight I just want to remind you that as we
talk about submission, that God will not trespass in your life. He won't. What do I mean by that?
Well, God is a gentleman, and the way that things work in the kingdom is even Jesus himself
stands at the door of our hearts and he knocks. He asks for permission to enter.
We invite him to come into our heart and lives and transform us.
So he's not going to force his way on you. He's not going to force and kick down the door. He's
going to ask you. He's going to knock on your heart, sometimes through those revealings for
healing, and he's going to say, hey, hey, Tatiana, I know you feel weary and tired, but I have another
revelation for you. I want to show you what the root of that weariness and despair, where that
despair, where that comes from. And I want to set you free from that.
Will you let me come into that despair in that place? I'm just, I'm just kind of riffing with
this a little bit. I'm going with the flow of the spirit. I don't even know fully. She's
been feeling those things, but I want you all to kind of make this real to you.
Where has your struggle been?
And where is God knocking on the door of your heart?
And he's asking if he can come into that tender area, that painful memory,
that trauma that you've been through.
And it's up to you to give him permission to enter.
We talk in this community a lot about do not enter signs on our heart.
I want you to literally think about the fact that some of you, whether you
realize it or not, have these, do not enter signs on your heart regarding
even God connecting with you, let alone other people you're going on dates and
you're trying to interact with the other, the men in the world, but you're kind of
like, we've got these signs like F off, like literally on the inside of us
because we don't like men or we believe that men are bad or that men are just
out for one thing and all they want is our body.
Well, yeah, some men act like that, but you know what?
Some women act like that too.
Truth.
We hear it from our healthy men all the time too.
So we can allow God to come in and work in those areas.
Take down those signs.
Stop believing all the things that are not true.
God is a giver and one of the most beautiful gifts he has ever given us is
free will free will to choose free will to partner with him.
He respects our boundaries.
He's not going to force things on us.
And if that's something that you believe, I really want to encourage you to ask the
Lord where that belief came from.
That God just forces you to do things.
Y'all.
Yes, we have consequences when we don't walk in God's will and
plan when we choose sinful life.
But so often we blame God and we say he's not good or that he forces us to do things.
No, he's just inviting us into a healthier, abundant life.
It's up to us whether we choose to do that and live that way or not.
It is for our own good that he invites us into those things.
Submission.
Something I want to talk about.
I think it's super important as we have this conversation is that there have been
religious men and women in our lives that have weaponized the word submission.
They've portrayed their thoughts and messages as from God himself, but they've
actually been misrepresenting God as well as his heart and truth regarding
what submit actually means.
The Holy Spirit is the one who can help us have discernment to know what God's
truth is about submission more and more and more in the days to come.
But we must be willing to allow God to heal us from every area of the past where
we have now created through partnering with the lies, misconceptions, and belief
systems that are faulty and they're preventing us from living full, abundant,
healthy, amazing lives.
Colossians 3.21 in the NIV version says this, fathers do not embitter your
children or they will become discouraged.
I talk about this a lot because I think that it really matters.
And this scripture, when it talks about provoke, it's to stir up, to excite, to
stimulate, especially to anger.
And I think it's important to point out that I don't, I'd have to actually look
up to see what, you know, the Strong's Concordance says regarding fathers.
But I just know that not only biological fathers or grandfathers, but fathers in
the sense of spiritual fathers, like bosses that I've had, people that have
been an authority over me.
A lot of times I believe this also represents mothers, some mothers who have
been walking in very masculine energy, very brazen, very harsh.
I'm not saying moms weren't called to set healthy boundaries for their kids, but
ladies, sometimes as moms, we, we kind of bring a heavy hand and we think we have
to do that and it, it isn't actually true.
It's us partnering with this masculine energy that was never intended for us.
When it says that the kids will be discouraged if the fathers provoke them
to anger, it actually means to be disheartened, to be dispirited, to be broken
in spirit, to be dismayed.
So I want to just ask you all to be thinking about in your life, have there ever been
seasons or times where someone has said something to you, done something, wounded
you in some way that was an authority over you, where they, you know, examples, I gave
this.
where I kept thinking of like times that I've heard people say like just shut up
and listen or because I said so and they don't want to give any explanation to
the kids and the kids aren't even meaning anything wrong by asking like
hey what's what's going on with this or you know the kids are like why do I have
to do this they're just curious but the parents are you know no and I'm not
trying to judge because I think sometimes that happens when parents are
just tired maybe they have an over curious kid and they're just tired of
explaining I don't know where it comes from for some people but I'm just saying
that that can be very damaging for children to be talked to that way one of
the other things I gave as an example the company I used to work for my boss
was a Christian nice guy did a lot of really great things but it kind of was a
boys club where I worked and so the men I'm not saying women never got promoted
and that I never got a raise but I definitely did not feel like women had
the same opportunity for advancement there and I worked really really hard
for them even the last year or so that I worked there I was promised a promotion
a title change and then he never gave it to me so just I'm gonna have another
example regarding the same man but I want you to think about this think about
if I then projected that on to God because here's my boss saying here's
gonna be this new title this new promotion I'm gonna give you and for a
year and a half he dangled it kind of in front of me this is where a lot of
people believe this is how they believe God is like this that he just dangles
carrots in front of us but he's never gonna give it to us see if I had
believed that God is the same way as he was then I probably would believe that
the other thing on my last day there they threw me a party I was getting
ready to move to Indiana Brian and I were definitely moving forward towards
marriage and we wanted to be more intentional to date on a more regular
basis and so I made the choice to move to Indiana and they threw me a going
away party the plan was for me I offered to work long term for them hybrid they
only were willing to do it for a few months which was great but in that I
also kind of told them like what my plan was going forward I was gonna I was
gonna launch out to do my own business I was gonna become a contractor and I was
sharing freely because they weren't willing to allow me to work past a few
more months and they knew that I was moving to grow in relationship with
Brian and on my last day he made several statements in a room full of all of my
colleagues he basically said Bethany's gonna go do something and you know try
to do something on her own hopefully that will work out for her it was very
demeaning and really treated me like I didn't know what I was doing and then he
proceeded to go on and say and she's in this relationship and you know she's
moving to another state she's hoping to get married hopefully that will work out
for her in front of all these people this is this is a place where I worked
for you all 12 years these people knew me they knew my character they knew my
belief in Christ this wasn't just I just decided to do some whimsical thing
anyways the reason I say that is that sometimes I think when we talk about harm
and hurt from people in authority over us we tend to think of the really harsh
mean things that people have said or done but that to me was so embarrassing
and I really carried that for a long time so it's been four years since that
time since that happened and you know I'm still continuing to heal from that
I've had several dreams over the years helping me process it literally like two
or three months ago I had a dream that I was in a courtroom with him and in the
courtroom he was actually asking me to testify on their behalf very interesting
and so you know as I continue to process this and really put that before the Lord
and seek the Lord regarding okay God what are you trying to show me the
reality is is God is showing me that there's still stuff on the inside that
still needs worked out regarding that dynamic I was really let down by that
because I looked up to him you know we put people on pedestals and we expect
them to not make mistakes right and so I've had to learn how to extend grace to
him I don't think he meant to be like I don't know that he meant to embarrass me
but he did and there may come a day where I will write him a letter and tell
him that is something I've been praying about so I want to circle back to you
You don't have to say anything in the chat or anything right now, but I want you to be thinking
about when were the times that someone, an authority over you, again this was a man,
an authority over me that said something that I felt incredibly embarrassed by in front of a
whole group of my colleagues. Maybe for you it's another scenario or another story. It could have
been in elementary school. You know, you have to ask the Lord what those things are for you.
But here's the thing, God is not like that. So it's important for us to grow in our understanding
of God's character. Who is God? And what do we really believe about him? It's vital to our
healing process and to step further into freedom and the fullness of God's plans and promises for
our lives by understanding, okay God show me who you are more as love. God show me who you are as
kind, as faithful, as good, as peace. Yeah, I know that when we get saved we believe these things. I
think a lot of us learn them as we go, but I promise you if you will pray and ask God to show
you these things more, he will. He's done it for me. I believe he'll do it for you as well. The
word submission actually means to yield to the power of another, to yield, to let go in the process,
to learn how to trust God more, to be willing to submit to the absolute and greater truth
than what has happened or is happening in our lives right now. When we know the one we're
submitting to and we trust them, key there, that is what can help us choose to submit to them.
So who are we asking you to submit to? Number one, to God. The key is being rooted in his love though.
Do you know that when we are full of the understanding of God's love for us, remember
perfect love casts out all fear because fear has to do with torment. So if we're afraid to submit
to God, if we're afraid to fully surrender our love story to God that letting him write the pen,
well then that shows us that we need more understanding and revelation of his love
because the love is what casts out the fear.
So maybe some of you need, again, a fresh infusion of God's love, a fresh revelation of his love
because out of the fullness, the filling of his love, then out of the overflow of that is when
we should choose to submit. Now it is a choice that we make or can make. Again, God's not going
to force you, but he wants us to choose out of a place and position of love and understanding.
Submission is not about someone dominating us, controlling us, or us dominating and controlling
other people. I have learned this more and more and more over the years. Submission is truly about
total surrender and submission to one another, teamwork you all. Submission is truly about
teamwork. Again, this isn't something you're going to do with someone you can't trust at all.
This is about submitting in love to one another when you find a spirit mate that you can trust,
someone that's healthy, that you can do life with. God has that for us. Again, like if God
can do it for me, you all, he can do it for you. Revelation 3.20 says, behold, I stand at the door
and knock. This is the scripture I was referencing earlier. If anyone hears my voice and opens the
door, I will come into them and they will eat with me and he, I'm sorry, they, ah, I'm messing it up.
I will come into him and eat with him and he with me. I was getting it all twisted there for a minute.
I love to think about this perspective. I want you to think about maybe one of your
most favorite dinners that you've had with a friend. You know, you're sharing a meal with
someone 10, 10, like for me, this is me again. I'm not saying this is how it is for you all,
but I tend to feel closer to people when I'm sharing a meal with them. We're bonding. We're
growing together. I tend to let my guard down a little bit more, especially if they're people
that I trust. And so when God is saying, Hey, like I'm standing at the door and I'm knocking,
if you hear my voice and you open the door, I'm going to come in and I'm going to eat with you.
And you're going to eat with me and we're going to have intimacy. We're going to have closeness.
So in your heart healing process, we're going to encourage you to remember that God is a gentleman.
He's not trying to plow the door down and force you into this process.
He's inviting you into something wonderful and freeing and healing. Job 22 verse 21 in the NLT
says this, submit to God and you will have peace. Then things will go well with you. Submit to God.
and you will have peace, then things will go well with you.
Peace here in the Hebrews word,
it actually means to be in covenant of peace,
to complete, to finish, to make whole, to restore.
So what is God saying?
God is saying, if you will submit to me,
I'm gonna come into covenant of peace with you.
I promise to finish the work, to complete the work in you,
to restore you to wholeness,
then things will go well with you.
Again, it's, do we trust that God's plan
for us is really good?
I know a lot of us say we do,
but the way we're living life out,
the things that we're doing and saying,
sometimes they're telling a different story.
Proverbs 3, verse 5 in the message translation says this,
trust God from the bottom of your heart.
Don't try to figure out everything on your own.
Listen for God's voice in everything that you do,
everywhere that you go.
He is the one who will keep you on track.
Don't assume that you know it all.
So ladies, we're gonna go into breakout session.
This is your question for tonight.
Do you struggle with submission and why?
That's what we're gonna talk about with each other.
If you don't struggle with submission at all,
you can share that story because some people don't.
Some people have really good experiences,
really good home, they really understand
what God's word says, God's love for them.
So some of you all, if that's your story
and that's where you're at,
some of you are a little further along in the heart work,
you can even say, this is what I felt and believed
when I came in, this is where I'm at now.
Whatever you feel led to share,
I wanna encourage you to do that.
God has something really great
for the breakout sessions tonight.
I'll be praying for all of you all when you go in there.
Let me get these set up for ya.
For those of you that are brand new,
just know that if you get in a room
and you can't hear someone
or you're the only one that's in there,
some people don't join the breakout,
so just wait there, I'll move you around on the back end.
I am gonna do three ladies per room.
So keep it short, brief, and powerful, ladies.
If you have extra time,
you can just get to know each other.
Where are you from?
What are some things you like to do?
How's heart work going for ya?
Whatever you wanna talk about, okay?
So I'm putting seven minutes on the timer.
Let's see, two, four, six.
I'll do eight minutes,
because we have time, we're only 8.32 tonight.
I kinda went quicker tonight, that was good.
All right, here we go.
Go ahead and click to join these rooms.
Try to click those as quick as you can.
All right, awesome.
Just trying to make sure
all the ladies have someone in their rooms.
Okay, looks like everybody has
at least two people, two room.
Awesome.
Father, thank you so much for this night.
Thank you, God, for what you're doing
in our hearts and our minds and our spirits.
God, I thank you for just a reminder
that you love us
and that you're always working in our lives.
And even when we can't see it, God, that you're working.
Just like simple things,
like you showed me that playground today
to remind me, not just the ladies,
that there's different seasons and times to things,
but the potential doesn't leave.
So God, we thank you for the promises
and the plans that you have
for every one of the ladies that are here live,
those that are in the breakouts,
those that are gonna watch the replay.
God, I pray that you would just help them.
Yes, Lord, that you would bring to life
the plans and promises that you have
for them more and more in the days to come.
God, where there's been despair,
where there's been hope deferred,
God, we just ask you right now tonight
to breathe fresh hope into them.
God, we know that a tree of life can spring up
and create all kinds of things.
Just like I talked about with that quote,
one acorn can create a whole forest, God.
We thank you that you would help us
to receive a revelation truth,
the freedom statement, if you will,
that we can cling to tonight
and in the days to come.
And in the days to come
so that we can be transformed from the inside out,
that we can believe the new story
that you want us to partner with.
God, we thank you that you would remove every obstacle.
Yes, Lord.
Every distraction, every barrier to our love story,
to the fullness of your plans and promises
in every area of our lives,
including our finances, our families.
We thank you, God, for reconciliation.
Lord, we thank you for healing,
physically, mentally, emotionally,
spiritually, financially.
God, I thank you.
What's coming up in my spirit is there's this thing in.
um leadership circles uh let me just make sure sarah and tracy did you guys get kicked out
you can unmute if you just joined i can put you in a room too
are you waiting for me sarah to put you in a room sorry i'm just
oh it's okay sorry i thought you were you might have been talking to one of the other ladies on
here so yeah i'm totally good to go in a room okay let me put you in this first one only two ladies
in there awesome go ahead we have like five more minutes so where we just thank you that you um i
don't even remember what i was praying but that's totally fine um but god that you're working in our
lives we thank you that um yeah lord that you would just breathe life into every area that we
have believed was dead god that there was no hope for us there we thank you god for reviving dreams
and visions inside of us god that we would partner with your truth and that we would
allow your love to come in and permeate our spirits i keep thinking of this today so i'm
gonna say it out loud i might even said it earlier but an infusion of god's love into
our spirits and i multiple times i've thought about like you know some people will go and
they'll get hooked up to iv infusions of fluids or whatever different things i don't even know
the medical terminology for it but that's what kept coming to me today infusions of his love
and so lord we just thank you for the infusions of your love god that you would literally in in
the spirit realm hook up to the ladies and help them to receive the fullness of your love
god help them to um yeah just lay aside every wrong thought they've had of you every heart
posture that isn't serving them well god because someone in their tangible their physical life
lord taught them something or treated them poorly and then they were they reflected that onto you
god we thank you that you are good that you are kind that you are faithful and that you will
continue to work in all of your plans and promises in all of our lives jeremiah 24 7 in the nlt says
i will give them hearts that recognize me as the lord they will be my people and i will be their
god for they will return to me wholeheartedly there's that whole heart thing again so god we
just thank you that you would come in and place the balm of gilead upon all of our hearts minds
bodies spirits and souls god that you would fill every gap where there's a break breakdown in our
foundation lord because of even our upbringing where there's just gaps lord i pray that you would
help us to heal to be restored to be made whole god i thank you for truth and hope and life i
thank you lord that you would help us or to just hear the heart of heaven over us that we would
feel your pleasure with us god in the sense of that we are your daughters and you love us i
thank you god that you um yeah lord help us to see ourselves through your eyes lord what you see
what you think about us lord i thank you that we would no longer partner with the things that bring
death in our thoughts in our lives i thank you god that you would help us to um yeah lord just
continue to shed um i just kind of have the picture of like people that had a bunch of extra layers of
clothing on um but the clothing was like all dirty and like torn up and had holes in it and so lord
things that are not clean god i know that your word declares in psalm 51 create me a clean heart
oh god and renew a steadfast spirit in me so lord help us to shed layers of clothing if you will
things that don't serve us mindsets heart postures um lord even our unbelief or our lack of faith
god i thank you that you say in your word that you will give you can and will give to us a measure
of faith so god i pray that you would help us to have the courage to ask for what we need
first john 320 says whenever our hearts make us feel guilty and remind us of our failures we know
that god is much greater and more merciful than our conscience and he knows everything there is
to know about us y'all he he saw everything and he still chose us he loves us unconditionally
not height nor depth nor principality nor power nor things in the present or things to come can
ever separate us from the love of god in christ jesus god is saying that you know he's gonna he
promises in revelation 21 verse 4 that he'll wipe away every tear from their eyes and eliminate
death entirely no one will mourn or weep any longer the pain of wounds will
will no longer exist for the old order I see.
So even though we're not in heaven yet, you know, the Lord wants us to
experience the kingdom of heaven here on earth as he desires it in heaven.
And so we are the vessels that that can come through.
So as we continue to heal, we can be kind of that vessel, that open door,
if you will, to help other people also experience, you know, just the
freedom and the wholeness of heaven.
So we thank you, God, for continuing to work in us, this abundant blessing
and hope-filled plan and purpose you have for us.
James 4, 7 says, so then surrender to God, stand up to the devil and resist
him, and he will turn and run from you.
So earlier I was talking about taking captive every thought and
making an obedient to Jesus Christ.
I feel like the scripture really partners with, you know, our call
to stand in the authority God has already given us through the freedom
of Christ and what he died to give us.
But we have to make a stand and stand up to the devil, resist him,
and he will run away from us.
He will flee from us.
God in his word also declares that when the enemy comes in like a flood,
that he would raise up a standard against him, against the enemy
and cause him to flee seven ways.
So God has our back.
He's fighting for us.
He's warring on our behalf and has good things in store for us.
Welcome back, ladies.
So glad to have you here.
All right.
So just real quick, our activations for this week, number one, I want, I call
this, start with your vertical submission.
So I will put these up in the group.
I will do that.
I will try to do that.
Remember to do that as soon as I log off.
Sometimes I say that, and then y'all, I go off to the next thing and then
y'all get it a couple of days later.
So I'm going to try to remember to do it as soon as I log off tonight.
But the vertical submission is surrendering to God.
Okay.
Remember submitting to God, surrendering to him.
So what you, if you're brand new, you're going to get out the submission
slip, permission slip is what we call it.
It's going to be in the welcome section, excuse me, or week one.
When y'all are in that welcome area, there's going to be
several worksheets in there.
You don't have to do all those worksheets right out of the gate.
Every week has a worksheet with it for the most part.
And so week one is that permission slip for ladies that have been here longer
than that, I want to encourage you to get it out, get a fresh one.
Some of y'all need to go ahead and just redo that and just see if something
new comes up in your spirit, that you're going to surrender and
just give up that all to the Lord.
And then I encourage y'all to put these up, hang them up
where you can see them every day.
I prayed that, that permission slip prayer over myself almost every
single day for months straight.
And it was a game changer for me.
So that's why I recommend it to people.
It absolutely changed things for me.
All right.
Number two, again, some of y'all you've been here before.
If you've already done this activation, totally fine.
You don't have to do it again.
For those of you that are new, you are hearing it for the first time.
We call this, um, why am I not seeing that?
Hold on one second.
It should be here where I can see it.
I just want to make sure I didn't accidentally close it out.
No, it's there.
All right.
Maybe it will show up now.
Sorry.
I don't know what you all are seeing.
Give me one sec.
Oh, there we go.
Okay.
Alrighty.
Let me scroll up here.
This is the one I want to show you.
This is called our roots and fruits activation.
I will put more details in that, that post.
It'll be under the announcements tab so y'all can get it there later.
But this is something we just ask you to take some time and pray.
You don't have to be super artsy.
Some of these you're going to see are more artsy because
there are artistic people.
Some people are less artsy.
They're all amazing.
Okay.
We love all of them.
The point is doing the activation.
So I'm going, I'm going to give you a couple ideas of different
things people have done before.
And then when I encourage y'all to walk this out, however you feel
led and what comes to your spirit.
So this one in particular, she, she posted this before she
did the top layer of the fruit.
So this is just kind of the bottom part of her tree.
So we believe, and you're going to read this and hear about this in the heart
recourse, that we have healthy roots that lead to healthy fruit.
We have unhealthy roots that lead to unhealthy fruit.
Well, the lies that we believe are connected down in there with
that unhealthy, those unhealthy roots.
Okay.
That's why we'll always encourage you all to pray and ask the Lord to reveal the
root, the root time that you, the first time you believed the lie, whatever lie
is revealed.
So I'm going to show you real quick, something, a couple here, and then I'll
move on this lady's, she wrote fear of rejection and a couple of the lies that
she heard or has heard over her life.
At the time she did, this was you are inconvenient hideout behind the scenes.
You're left over your.
The most you'll ever be is extended family.
You're shy, you're too weird, you're too quirky.
Y'all see how this works?
That goes into that lie that she is rejected by people,
fear of rejection.
So she's identifying the lies,
and then you'll see on here,
she does have some like relationship with Christ
that's growing, that's a good route, okay?
Here's the next one.
This lady is a teacher,
and so she did hers more kind of teacher looking,
and she focused in on three main things,
childhood rejection, childhood abandonment,
childhood perfectionism, and then she listed the lies.
And then she kind of made this diagram
of what she believed they led up to,
adult perfectionism, adult abandonment, adult rejection,
and all the things that go with that.
And then she kept going up to the healing and forgiveness,
to the truth statements, I'm worthy, I will find my husband.
Again, this is just another example.
You don't have to do all that.
It can be just like this one too.
This is amazing as well.
This is showing you roots and fruits, good and bad.
The ones on her chart that are the healthy fruit
are the ones that have the leaves and the little flowers,
where the other ones that don't have that
are the unhealthy roots that are leading to unhealthy fruit.
So for example, one of the things she wrote on there
was unhealthy efficiency,
and then that led up to the fruit distracted.
See how this works, y'all?
So she's praying and asking God,
what are the unhealthy roots?
And sometimes we're gonna identify a lie
before we can identify a root.
Sometimes we might know the root before the lie.
Be full of grace towards yourself in this process.
This is a process, okay?
Here's one that was done on a computer.
This is great too.
Again, this is about you all doing what works for you.
The goal is to pray, talk with the Lord about it,
get some of the stuff on the paper,
and then you can always build on it from there.
Here's another one done on the computer.
This one here is one of the ladies in our community,
super amazing artist as well.
The reason I love to show this one
is the way that she depicted the unhealthy roots and fruit.
It's that kind of brown, blackish area on the far left there
and then her healthy roots and fruit
are the orange and yellow kind of color.
And then she brought the Holy Spirit in there
on the right side with the balloon.
I just thought that was a cool depiction
of the process of healing and the revealing of healing,
of identifying those roots
and asking the Holy Spirit to heal those and set you free.
So once you do your activation,
the goal would be to post it in the group
under the community tab,
and then we'll kind of give some feedback if needed.
We might ask you questions or coach you on it.
We might just cheer you on.
It just depends on what we feel led to do.
Okay, on that note, we're gonna do group coaching now.
So if anyone feels led to share with the whole group
what you shared in your breakout about submission,
I would love to go ahead
and get this part of it started tonight.
Tatiana, go ahead.
Lisa can go first, that's all right.
Okay, that's fine.
Lisa, I guess you're up first.
Okay, yeah, so I was sharing with the gals that,
yeah, I worked for a ministry
and pretty quickly into it within the first couple months,
my boss and her boss were getting let off at the airport
and I was on the phone with my boss
and I was like just giving her the quick overview
of what I had done for them.
Just, you know, it was something she needed to know.
And she was really impressed.
And she's like, Lisa, she's like,
I'm gonna look for an executive position for you.
And so I was like, wow, you know, okay, great.
And then I think we had quarterly reviews
because it seems like I went through
three or four of them with them.
But anyway, so my first quarterly review came up
and when the review was almost over or was over,
I said, hey, you know, I just wanted to bring up,
you know, about the executive position
because it wasn't addressed yet, you know.
And then we were on a Zoom call
and it was my boss and her boss.
And her boss said, well, Lisa, she's like,
I don't remember anything about this.
Like, can you, you know, tell me more?
And then basically I said, well, my boss said,
oh no, I said that.
So she, you know, said that.
And so that was that.
And then my next review came up
and it still didn't happen.
And I was frustrated.
Maybe it was after the second review, I don't know.
But anyway, so it kind of went back and forth for a while.
And then actually one part I forgot to share
during my meeting with the women
is that I'd gone out to coffee with my boss.
And this was actually really crazy.
So we were sitting outside and she literally.
really leaned forward and said, Lisa, I never said this to you.
After she in front of her own boss said that she said it. And
I mean, like intimidating, like really in my face kind of thing
right across this roundtable. And I just sat there and I was
just like, I can't even believe this. Like, I don't even know
what to say. Like, this is just unbelievable. So then long and
short, it came up one more time. And I started doing a paper
trail on email, you know, because I'm like, I'm covering
myself, this is ridiculous. And I think that happened actually
from the first time it wasn't ridiculous yet, because my boss
said that she was actually the one that said it. So but now
time has progressed. She's denied it and denied it in front
of my face. And then there's like a second denial. And then
it came up, I had another review. And her boss and me and
my boss are on there. And her boss is just saying, like Lisa,
this was never said. And I was like, it was said, you know, I
stood my ground. And this it was like a 20 minute entanglement,
you know, and, and I literally said, she started walking away
in the room, her voice was getting more distant. And I
just literally under my breath, I said, this is unbelievable. I
said that out loud, you know, and disconnected the next day.
I'm working from home the whole time. This is during COVID. The
next day, I'm on my internet, you know, I'm on the computer,
I'm doing work. And all of a sudden, my email account is like
gone. And everything. So I call and they literally let me go.
And they said nothing at all this work, I still have to do my
time card, which by the way, took like an hour and a half to
do because I was checking in and out every you know, I would I
didn't. Yeah, it was like a ton. And then I had to turn in my
computer. And I'm like, I can't believe this. I happened. My
friend happened to call when this is going on. And she's
like, Lisa, I'm getting at my spirit. Like you need to ask for
a letter of recommendation. Like be when you turn in your
computer. And like, I really didn't want to. But then I did.
And I'm glad I did. But anyway, it's neither here nor there. I'm
never going to use that person. It was really, it was really
hard. And the lady who I turned my computer into clearly had no
clue what was going on. And I wasn't going to say anything. I
mean, my heart was like, I was like, I was traumatized.
Honestly, it was really uncomfortable for me. And so
yeah, and then fast forward, like a year later, this other
gal that used to work for her, her mom had died. And so my
whole that whole ministry that I worked for was actually at my
church at the memorial. And my boss was there and all the
people that I never got to say goodbye to didn't get to
give an answer to what you know what I mean? Like nobody, not
that I'm going to sit there and talk bad, you know, about, but
it was just like, there was no closure for me whatsoever. And
these people like we were close, you know, so that was really,
really painful, really painful. And yeah, and then my boss was
just like acting like nothing happened. Like she always did
just super joyful. And oh, and I'm like, Hmm, really? Like I'm
gonna ever ask you for help. You're kidding me. I'm sorry.
That's just, you know,
crazy. No, it's really crazy when this kind of stuff happens,
because it's like, you know, the enemy is using these people to
just kind of silence us to feed into the lies that were
abandoned, were shut down, that when we voice our opinion or our
thoughts, like, there's just no, like, people don't follow
through on what they say, like all these lies, and he uses
things like this, and people that function in these ways,
where, I mean, there should have been a conversation, there
should have been a notification versus just shutting someone out
and down. But definitely, I'm sure you've worked through some
of that already, but highly recommend just even as I was
saying, like, working through the prior things with my former
boss, you know, sometimes it shows up and you're just like,
Oh, there's that thing again. Why is this coming up again? And
so just want to encourage you just to pray into that and just
make sure that, you know, if there's any other revelation, is
there anything else that this connected to in your life where
someone kind of just shut you down in a situation, you know,
and really just lean into that. But I appreciate you sharing
that. And this is a great example, too, of what I was
saying, like, it doesn't always have to be even though it's
saying fathers provoke, again, that scripture can be applied to
these situations where anyone in authority over us has done
something to provoke us right to bitterness to anger, to incite
us on the inside. And so, yeah, I'm getting a revelation about
something even this afternoon for myself as I say that.
right now. But like just these moments where the enemy is just really trying to get us to partner
with those heart postures, right? And so when we release those to the Lord and just, God, I can't
change this situation. I can't change this person. I'm really hurt by how they spoke or what they did
or said. Maybe for you, I'm really hurt that she didn't acknowledge what the value that she saw in
me. I mean, it'd be different if individuals in this situation, if they had said, I still
see this value in you, but we're not going to be able to do this for you at this time. Totally
different. I would have been, I would have totally been fine with that. Just give me the truth. You
know what I mean? But to do that, like, I don't, yeah, it's weird. Cause I haven't thought about
this for a really long time. And when you gave us the activation, you said, whatever comes to your
mind, it was like the one of the first things, you know, I've had a lot of abuse from actually
bosses. It's pretty crazy, you know, important, important to note here. So what that makes me
think of Lisa is when I kept attracting the same kind of guy and even the same kind of employers,
whether they were paid or even I worked in a volunteer position, I loved the role. I loved
what I was doing, but I tended to be with people in relationship, in working situations, even
volunteering situations at times where they would just take, take, take, take, take, take, take as
much as they could take. But I was happy being a giver. I was just given, given, given, given away.
And then I had to really slap stop and look at, okay, wait a minute. I'm the common denominator
here. Yeah. You know, where we look at, okay, why am I attracting these people? These employers that
are treating me this way, or these people in authority that are treating me this way,
it's not our fault. Okay. But what I am saying is like, I had a lot more healing to do than I knew.
And so going through that and really looking through that lens, it just, it just changed the
way that I started approaching, you know, relationships and really tried to go in with
a more whole heart and not expecting those kinds of things from individuals. I'm not saying it's
easy. Cause I still can find myself in situations where, um, I, um, I don't know if you guys have
ever heard of, um, strength finders. It's kind of like a Myers-Briggs or, but strength finders.
I just, we took that for, we, all of our staff did that for the church. And one of my top
strength finders is responsibility. You all, one of my top ones. Well, that's awesome,
but it can get me into a lot of unbalanced situations because I have such a high level
of responsibility. I don't want anyone to fail. And growing up in a household where I was told
that I had to take responsibility for my brother's chores, or we would all get in trouble. Like if,
if my mom came home and the chores for my brother weren't done, even if mine were done,
we all got in trouble. So like, I know that's a simple example, but do you see how this then
starts to invade all the other areas of our lives? Like we start taking responsibility and doing
things for people that we don't need to be doing. And part of it, again, it's not coming from a bad
place in my heart. I want to be helpful. I want us to look at, I want things to work well. I,
you know, I am very good at administration and carrying things out. And, and so, um, I have a
lot of other giftings too, but sometimes what can happen is because my administration gift
and organization is really strong too. Some of my other giftings and things God is asking me to do,
keep getting put on the back burner because I'm, I'm really, I'm comfortable and I can work really
quickly and easily in this administration stuff. And so again, I don't know why I'm sharing that,
but like I had, I've had to learn and look at even in this last year, where do I tend to shift
into taking responsibility for things and then resenting people for it? And again, not that
that's you at all, but this might be for somebody else in here, or that might watch the replay.
Um, you know, God is inviting us to come out of those places and really look at, okay,
where do I still need healing so that I don't keep taking responsibility for things that are
not my risk there. I'm not responsible for them. So hope that's helpful, but let us know how that
goes. Um, yeah, even as you process that a little more, cause I do think there might be some things
there and I appreciate you sharing as always. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I just want to side note,
it is always women and it's the root is my mom. I do know that much. Cause I've kind of looked at
this before. So, but it's interesting. Cause like when you said like, Oh, that's something to look
at. Cause it's repetitive, right? It's, it's happened a lot. It's really has and areas where
I've started to shine, like people want to shut that down. And I'm like, and I never knew I didn't
get it. Now I'm older, I get it. Like, I'm like, Oh, that's not
cool. You know? Yeah, anyway, not to carry on. But thank you
so much.
It's really good. And even honestly, just to add on that
one other thing, and then I'll go over to Tatiana. Even the
situation that I was navigating today. It was with this guy
that he is a strong leader, I'm a strong leader, too. But he was
never willing to work as a team. And when I would send him
emails, like he would respond and he would be helpful, but
then he would make these kind of undercutting passive aggressive
statements as well. And he would basically like, Oh, this person
is doing such a great job working, but he would never like
work as a team with us. And it was like he would never just
give me the respect, you know, like I was talking about
earlier, submission is mutual respect. When you're a team with
someone, there's a mutual, you know, healthy respect that
should happen there. And, you know, I've really prayed into
this a lot with this guy. I know that he has heart wounds with
his mom. But one of the things why I'm saying this is I
genuinely know that I am strong, and he doesn't like that. And so
what he's trying, what he is the enemy, I have to always remember
for all of us, we always have to remember this is the enemy
working through these people. But this afternoon, I was
thinking to myself, and ironically, you all even though
this is going to blow your minds. So this situation is
happening. And I was literally like, Okay, I am not bowing to
the spirit of intimidation through this person. That's
what's happening right now. I kid you not. I have not heard
from my spiritual daughter's dad. I think he messaged not
this past Mother's Day, but a year ago Mother's Day, and I
just never responded. And it wasn't anything big, but it was
just so weird. Out of nowhere, I get a text from him today, he
got a piece of mail at his house, some kind of government
lawsuit thing, not against me, but you know, like when your
information is leaked, there's lawsuits, and then they, you
know, got to send you the information. And he was just
asking if I needed him to send that to me. And I didn't answer
the text right away, because I thought, man, I don't even know
if I want him to have my address. The reality is he can
look at my address. It's no big deal. But why do I say that?
Because I just thought it was so ironic, because I used to be so
intimidated through him. That at the same around the same time
that I was literally praying and saying, I am not going to bow to
the spirit of intimidation through this other guy. I got
the text from him. And so I didn't think that was an
incidence you all, I didn't, I think that that was something
that God was trying to show me that this is a spirit. This is a
spirit of intimidation that's trying to work through different
people. And it's not always just men. But it is men a lot or
women that are very, you know, very strong willed, they don't
like to like, very insecure, they don't they don't thrive
around other strong women. I'm okay. Like when other women are
strong, and I can work as a team with people that doesn't
intimidate me, I've had to learn how to do that. I've had to
heal a lot, but God has that for us, right? He has goodness
and fullness. And we can, we can see someone else's strengths and
bless those things in them versus feeling like we're less
than or we have to grapple for some kind of like, I'm better
than y'all. I'm not into that. Like, yeah, you go do you. I'm
cool. We can work as a team, but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna have
this power struggle. I just don't do that stuff. So I tend
to back away from those kind of things. But anyways, hopefully
this is helping someone. Lisa, thank you so much for sharing
that with us. Let us know how that goes. As you like to spray
into that a little more.
Yeah, it sounds like to that's unhealed trauma when people get
triggered like that, which is the sad part. But anyway, that's
all my comments.
You're welcome. Go ahead.
Hey, okay, so you had like, sorry, if there's a lot of
background noise right now, but um, you had said my name earlier
and I was listening and it just caught my attention because the
other day I was working on a revealing for healing that I
think Andrea had given me like, a lot of time. And I was like,
giving me like, but I'm sorry if you can hear people in the
background. I can hardly hear them from my perspective, at
least. Okay, good. Because somebody's like yelling right
now. Um, but that's distracted me a lot. Um, so pretty much she
had given me
Revealing for Healing, she's like, do this. And I've been
working through it. And I didn't write down despair, but I wrote
Dread. And the thing that came up for me in the Breakout Room
was, like, I feel like, you know, we've talked about, like,
my dad and everything, and I feel a lot better, like, in
regards to that, and just not really, not necessarily
struggling in that area with submission. And I feel like
submission isn't a big struggle for me. And so what came up for
me was that I tried to write down what you had said. But
pretty much like Holy Spirit saying, like, I want to free
you from that feeling of, like, despair. And to me, it's like,
well, I want you to free me from this too. Like, so why are you
not, you know, like, and I feel like I'm doing everything that
like, I can, and I feel like I'm trying so hard. So it's
like, what's the issue if you want to give this to me? And if
I'm like, begging you for this thing, like, why are we still
here in the same place? And, and I say that in regards to like,
like the Revealing for Healing thing I was working through is,
you know, I've mentioned, like, just struggling with intrusive
thoughts. And it's just like, regarding that, it's like, I'm,
I'm begging you, like, to give me the peace that you always
talk about, like, please. And over and over, you're like,
reminding me of the promises, like, I'm going to give this to
you. And you had mentioned, like, kind of feeling like
you're having the carrot dangled in front of you or something
like that. And I feel like that it's like, but I know that
that's not God's heart for me. Like, I know, He loves me. So I
don't know. Like, what's, it's just like, it's like, we both
want this. So what's, what's up with that? Like, I don't know.
Yeah, this is such a good share, Tatiana. Thank you for trusting
us with this. And, ladies, what I can say to you, Tatiana, and
everyone else is, is that sometimes, like, I've been where
you are, okay, before. And sometimes things don't make
sense in the moment. But the more we heal and grow, we
understand why we were still struggling to receive the
breakthrough. Sometimes it's because the enemy doesn't want
us to. And so he hinders it. And so God is saying, I'm sending
this to you. And we're saying, I want it, I want it. But we're
like, why isn't it coming? Well, you know, the Bible talks about
the Prince of Persia, who actually hindered the answer
from coming. And so I just really feel that for you,
Tatiana, that the enemy is, is playing a role here, that's
pretty significant. It's not your fault. Okay? It's not that
you're not doing a good enough job. It's not that you are
messing up the process. It's just that on your way through,
you're going to get there, the breakthrough is going to come,
the breakthrough came in that story. It just was delayed.
Okay. And in that meantime, in the in between, when we're
waiting for what's being delayed, so to speak, I will
tell you from my experience, that there's a lot of growth
that comes from that. It's not easy. It's not fun. God doesn't
want that for us. But even myself, I think back to just
crying out to God, just like when I just would feel so
lonely. And just like, God, I don't want to feel this lonely
anymore. Like I wasn't even about another person. Excuse me,
at that point, I just didn't want to feel the deep
loneliness when I was by myself. And I remember this one
day in particular, you I mean, I literally can remember I was
sitting in my apartment, I wish I could tell you everything that
God did in that moment. But honestly, I think what it was is
that for months leading up to that I was praying into it, I
was seeking God, I was declaring positive things, I stayed
faithful. And then one day, it was like something clicked. And
that thing lifted off of me. And I had to continue to walk that
out. But I'm telling you, I was different from that day on. And
I really just think that that's gonna that's, that's what you
have coming for you, is that the things that you've been doing,
the days that you've even cried out, like, again, his arm is not
too short. I know some of the ladies are putting some things
in there for you. And I appreciate that you all but just
in that whole, we want to be careful to not share too many
other resources. But um, I think the best thing that you can do
Tatiana is, there's a thing called soaking. I don't know if
you've ever heard of that. But one of the things I had to
how to do was soak in God's presence and not do anything like not perform not try to pray enough
like in soaking um one of the things that they where i learned it at least i learned this at
toronto airport christian fellowship i went up there years ago when they were in the midst of
this big revival thing and they had this whole soaking session where they literally had us all
just in the sanctuary we all laid down on the floor people brought people that already knew
this was going to happen brought pillows and all kinds of things for this session
and so we lay down on the floor and the goal of it is your the you're supposed to try to clear your
mind for me y'all that is a hard thing my mind is going all the time i wake up even in the morning
sometimes just like my mind racing of all the things i have to get done especially when we
have a lot of activities going on in the church or you know last year single all at the same time
and so for me even back then it was a hard practice but what i found is that sometimes
i would lay there and honestly i would fall asleep sometimes i would lay there and i would
just like really like okay god i can't stop thinking of things can you help me like i'm
just being really honest and sometimes i would feel that that quietness come over my mind
and then what would happen is when you're soaking and you're allowing your mind to settle
you start to hear god speaking directly to you about some things
and so there's music that they play that was more like you know not a lot of words but it was like
really really beautiful and so i will post some songs in the group tonight ladies since i'm
talking i'm sharing this to tatiana but i believe this can benefit all of you um if i if i was in
person with you all we would do a live session on this really soon but what i can do is at least
post some songs that y'all can listen to and i would encourage y'all to practice doing this
you know to really just ask god to help quiet your minds and for some of you it is going to be hard
and you're going to have experiences like i did some of you haven't rested in a really long time
and you might fall asleep like real quick and that's okay and so i just want to encourage
you tatiana that i feel like your own like it's almost there it's almost there and i want to say
sweetie because i know you're you're one of my one of our young ones and i my my mom with my
girls is kicking in even though i'm not your mom or anything you know i catch myself saying
things like that just kind of out of like just talking to people in the day-to-day like people
that i know and just have a true heart for you and just seeing you get breakthrough and i know
that god is proud of you i really know that and you know sometimes too what the other thing that
i want to say is that you know when we hear things from god like i want to give this to you
and then we're like well i want it why can't i just have it here's one of the other shifts i
really want to encourage you to make part of the reason we hear god say i want to give this to you
versus i have already given this to you do you see the difference
do you see the difference
when we hear i want to give this to you there's still some level of us not believing
that it's already ours so when i was talking earlier and i know again it's really hard
because we have to deal with what's going on in the physical realm in the physical realm
we're dealing with the enemy and all the attacks and all the things that he's doing to hinder the
blessing of god but the reality is is that the the blessing the blood of christ and all of its
benefits was already given to us okay it's not again us striving to get it it's us partnering
with god but sometimes it's resting and i know that you're you've done a lot of work to try to
get better to heal to even like your school work to your singing and i just feel like god in this
season is saying it's time to rest okay and so i really want to encourage you to maybe do some
scripture reading on sabbath and solitude like what does god's words say about resting in him
versus you feeling like you have to earn and get something from him
for it to be yours does that make sense yeah yeah and again you're going to feel that tension
sometimes still but you're on your way i don't think it's going to be a lot longer for you
and i know that can sound really easy for someone who's not walking
through it but I have my own battles and I know that sometimes even for me when
we're waiting for the promise to come when there's something you know even
physically things I've been battling like even being sick even though it's
only been two weeks y'all I'm like man okay I am ready to be over this I am so
ready to not feel sick or have congestion or have energy so I I get it
okay the in-between is really tough sometimes and then imagine like she's I
mean this is something she's been facing for a long time with these intrusive
thoughts and things the last thing I want to share is sometimes we can't
change our environment okay and I know that I've chatted with you a little bit
about that before I understand too because you're younger and things like
that you might not be able to move out of your current environment but you all
sometimes our environment is playing a role okay and so for those of you that
might struggle with some of those things that might be something you need to pray
about and sometimes we can't change that so we endure it until we can change that
okay and so unfortunately I think that that is kind of playing a role in your
life you know the environment even though you are getting along better with
your parents y'all have come a long way but I do think that there are things
that you know remember everything kind of comes from the top down in our
community you know same thing with our parents and our family and so if there
are things that they are allowing into their lives that is directly impacting
you as you're under their authority and in their home still yeah Roseanne Roseanne
said I heard a quote one time that King David persevered and turned his desert
of loneliness into a garden of solitude that's right yeah and even you know
Jackie referenced and you guys have probably heard me reference before when
David said why are you downcast on my soul hope in the Lord and so there there
is that the intrusive thoughts that can come and someone private message me yes
but I don't believe that's the case here for the private message I just got and
so yeah just just keep praying and look into that solitude and the rest and see
where God leads you with that you know a lot of times ladies to here's one other
thought that just came to me is that sometimes we can focus so much on what
the enemy is doing to us or the struggle that we're having that it can actually
cause that to increase and when we shift you know just like when I'll say to you
guys sometimes the best thing we can do is worship worship is warfare resting
is also warfare and we're not having to do any of the fighting because God's
fighting for us so Tatiana that's the last thing I want to just kind of remind
you is that God is fighting for you I know it might not feel like it sometimes
but that doesn't make it not true okay so if you can kind of just ask God to
give you an image of like in the Bible where I can't remember if it was Elisha
or Elijah but where he you know the servants all scared and Elisha's like
God opened his eyes and God opens the servants eyes and there's this host of
angel armies there to fight with them and so I just want to give you that
picture as well that the host of you know angel armies is fighting for you
and God is on your side thank you for sharing with us we're praying for you
thank you you're welcome joy go ahead
okay I had a similar experience as you experienced in public just recently so I
just know I was kind of a little bit embarrassed I was tears in my eyes then
I was talking to God got over it and then I don't feel hurt and I sent a
message to that the spiritual authority and he did not respond to me because I
I'm a kind of peacemaker you know in my past sometimes if people make sense to
me and I I went to them I said I'm sorry but actually they did wrong to me but I
rather to have a peace I just went there to try to reconcile I said sorry I'm
sorry actually they did but this time I left a message and he did not respond to
me so yeah did I have to I don't know whether I still you know even I don't
feel hurt
I don't feel hurt at all, but I don't know.
Like you said, you said you mind,
you saw yourself in the court,
something I did not hear very, understand very well.
But I, I'm just so, I, sometimes I don't feel hurt,
but I, I want to God show me
whether it's still deep inside me,
still have something going on through past things.
So how can I detect, probably have to just like,
you're so, so can praise the Lord
and allow God to reveal to me
so I can get rid of every root of,
that one wants to get rid of it, yeah.
Yeah, Joy, Joy, that's,
it really is the best thing we can do
is pray, forgive these people.
You know, when people, interestingly enough,
the gentleman that I was talking about earlier,
he would do that too.
I would email him like business,
like church business questions,
and he literally wouldn't respond to me for like weeks.
But then my husband would send them an email
and he would respond to him.
And so there's that dynamic just kept happening
and it was making the whole team dynamic worse
every single time it happened.
And so what I will tell you is that,
you know, number one,
I think it's important for us to remember,
this is so much more about that guy than it is about me.
I'm not saying there's nothing I can't ever change,
but I wasn't doing anything wrong.
I was asking for clarification on things we needed
to do our finances for the church.
And for whatever reason, he was choosing to not respond.
Okay?
And so good job on not trying to get him to answer you.
Good job on just trying to move forward.
You know, forgive those people.
God ask us to forgive those people that harm us in any way.
And you know, this is tonight,
I feel like it's a good reminder you all
that it's in the small things
just as much as the big things that it matters
that we forgive people for offending us or,
you know, ignoring us.
I think that's a common thread that's coming out tonight
is that so many of us have even been ignored
by authority figures.
And that brings hurt as well.
Shut out, you know, like what happened to Lisa?
Like that kind of, those kinds of things are like very,
very like resounding in our spirits
because we're created for connection,
we're created for community.
So when someone literally on our end,
the way we believe it is, you know,
they're not responding to me, they're ignoring me, whatever.
I had a lady in one of the other groups
that, you know, for those of you that have been around,
we are very grateful for our app.
So I just wanna preface that,
but our app hasn't been functioning
the way it used to for a long time.
And it's really not an easy thing for our team
because like I'll come in and say something to you guys,
I'll comment or Andrea or Kelly will comment on your post.
And back in the day, when you guys would respond,
we would get this notification on the backend.
That's not happening anymore for us.
So sometimes we're not seeing your responses.
Well, anyway, saying that sometimes we also,
what can happen, and I don't want y'all to worry,
but if some of y'all post and we don't respond at all,
I just want you to know,
it's probably your post is in the ghost land.
That's what I call it.
It's in ghost land.
But anyways, I'm saying that to say this lady posted
and my other team members could not see her post.
I was really sick, you all know,
I was really sick that one week.
I only logged in to do what I had to do.
So I wasn't in that group looking at the post.
My team didn't see it because they couldn't see it
for whatever reason.
When I logged in after she complained,
she sent in an email.
And this is the reason I'm telling you this story
is because what she said in the email.
She said, I want to cancel my subscription
because I'm being stonewalled.
Okay, I'm not mocking her,
but the reason I'm giving this as an example
is because that is something she already believes
to be true.
Even myself, I'm even ministering to myself tonight.
I feel ignored in my life by men in authority,
including my dad when he left when I was little.
And so when I feel ignored now by men,
it goes even now.
Again, this is how revelation happens, y'all.
Sometimes I get revelation when I'm coaching you all,
just like right now.
So what we believe, we become,
and then we attract.
So if I believe that men in power or authority or men that aren't healed ignore me or mistreat me, that's going to show up in all kinds of places, right?
Well, this woman unfortunately believes that she gets stonewalled by people, that people overlook her, that people, you know.
So when she complained, I went in and answered all of her posts, y'all, and she's fine and everything's good.
So I don't want y'all to think it's like an example for that reason.
And of course we don't want her to feel that way.
Do you think it's a coincidence that I also had to deal with someone in our church that believed the same thing this weekend?
She didn't sign up to receive our emails and then got mad because she didn't get an email from us.
We use an email marketing system. You have to sign up for it. We're not allowed to just email you.
But she came up, she was so mad.
And I told the afternoon group, she came up to me and this is literally what she said.
I already gave Courtney, Courtney's our office coordinator, a piece of my mind and I'm going to give you a piece of my mind now too.
That is how she started the conversation. Y'all can imagine how that went.
And y'all, it was all over an email.
One email that she didn't get that was not intentional, that she didn't get it.
What are we believing in our hearts about things? About ourselves?
And that's causing us to get triggered and have these big explosive reactions.
And God's just trying to help us dial it in tonight.
To submit to Him, to surrender these situations to Him, to allow Him to come in and heal.
So joy back to you. I think it's great that you're willing to just pray into this and make sure that that's not in your heart
or causing any negativity in there. That's part of the revealing for healing process.
Just keep moving forward. You're doing a great job.
Yeah. And also I shared with the person in the breakout room.
I said, I learned to just quickly put in my heart, no matter what happens, just in Thanksgiving.
I focus my gaze on Him and stay Thanksgiving because God calls all things work together for good.
Benefit those who love Him and according to purpose.
I have to immediately shift into praise or shift into Thanksgiving.
So when I do that, the disappointment hurts. We're not easily slicking.
At the moment, at the second, if I do not, of course, that time, I mean, I did not.
I really am kind of embarrassed. So that's why I was in tears.
At the beginning, I did not.
And it's okay for us to feel that. I want to make sure that you hear that part of joy.
So maybe not allow yourself to feel it. Well, we're going to feel things in that moment,
but maybe feel it more when you're by yourself so you can process that with the Lord.
For anybody that's hearing this, it's really important for us to feel the feels and not just shove those down
because sometimes what can happen too, which is really good that you just shift to being thankful.
And that's an amazing character trait in you.
But sometimes what can happen too is if we shift too quickly to that,
before we have those revealings for healing and we feel those emotions that we're having,
we can actually suppress those things and those can kind of come up later on.
And so just make sure because you are, you're a joy-filled person.
You are like what your name declares.
And so you tend to really shift into that. And that's an amazing, like I said, character trait.
Just make sure you're not dismissing your feelings in the process.
And not that you are, but just saying that for everyone as well.
Thank you so much for sharing. I'm going to go ahead and go to Sarah.
We have just a few minutes left tonight.
Okay. Thank you.
You're welcome.
Thank you, Bethany. I'll make this super quick.
First thing I have is a really quick question.
And this actually ties into my share because I got here, as you saw, very late.
And I totally missed like whatever the topic was tonight.
But I put the share in the chat just and sometimes I see people do that.
And I've done that in the past. And I just wanted to confirm,
are there things that the team would rather we didn't like,
like you were saying outside materials and stuff like for like copyright purposes and things like that?
Yeah. So in the announcement tonight, housekeeping, every couple of weeks,
I'll circle back to housekeeping,
which you wouldn't have heard just because of the timing you were able to get on
tonight. And just so y'all know,
it's okay if you can't be here for the whole session,
I would much rather you all just log in and be here when you can,
obviously, if you can be here for the whole thing. Awesome.
But you can always go back and catch the replay for the part that you weren't
here. So just want to make sure everybody knows that like,
I'm never going to be like, Oh my gosh, you're showing up late.
Like I don't think that ever.
So I would rather y'all come and be here for any part of the sessions when you
can. But one of the things is we do any outside material, so any outside ministry
stuff, devotions, business stuff, even people like, you know, TikToks that just
share, even if it is really awesome, we actually remove all of that stuff from
our group when anybody posts it because we don't have the time to vet all that
stuff out. So I'm very familiar with Derrick Prince and his content, but the
reality is, is we just do it across the board. And we do that because also, and
here's some of the stuff, sometimes people ask about like satanic stuff and
things like that. One of the things we've even had to have had to curb in our post
with people, like when you all submit posts to the groups, is if it goes too
much into that stuff, there's people coming in from all different belief
systems. Some people that aren't even Christians yet or have very little
knowledge of that stuff. And so if we start going too far into that kind of
content, it can get very scary for people. It doesn't mean we don't believe in some
of that stuff, but that isn't our calling in this group, you know. And so we just
try to even just really put guardrails against that. Some of the other things
we've had to really put guardrails against recently is people's stance on,
you know, COVID shots or vaccinations or like, and this is a real thing that
people are facing even in the dating world. And we do address it, but we just
don't allow post in the group because there's a lot of controversy, just like
we don't allow political post in the group. So we just really protect the
group community to focus on what we're here for. Does that make sense? And even
though again, that I'm sure that will help her a lot, Sarah, and I know I can
tell like you have a heart just to serve from things that have helped you. But to
answer your question, yeah, we will. And even I've noticed one of the ladies has
put up just a simple prophetic, it looks like it might be like a terror, a daily
terror counter thing, prophetic thought for the day. And they've been good. But
because I'm just trying to be consistent with what our, our community policy is,
I've just taken those down. So that's not to offend her or anyone else. It's
just Yeah, across the board. We just that's something that we do here.
Right? Yeah. And I just want to I'll make it super quick, because we're just over
the 630. But I had, um, as soon as as you said that I suddenly had, I
recognize that I work as a counselor. So I do this stuff all the time. This
emotional trigger that came up, and it went straight back to these religious
communities that I had been in. And I was spirit filled, but didn't understand it
was like, you know, I was like, Why don't they all see this? This doesn't make
sense. But I hit, what do you want to call it? It's like those unspoken rules
that they had in those communities. And then there was a lot of, you know,
obviously stuff in the spiritual realm behind the scenes, I couldn't see at the
time. And I had that trigger come up as soon as I was like, Oh, my gosh, you know,
like, I felt so dumb. I felt silly. And it's not like I, it makes 100% like,
sense when you at all. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I totally 100% understand that. And
then well, and then because of that, like, I've actually had pain. I've
actually put it in the chat before for healing. And people are like, What is
that pisoas? But it's the psoas muscle. And the Lord gave me a dream. And I saw
two men in the dream that I think refer to I don't know if it's like a evil
spirit or something. But it is getting heat now, as I've come back to that
trigger. So I think it's connected to that. Um, and so I felt so I felt so
silly. You know, I was like, Oh, I want to do is help. And I just made a blunder.
I crossed the line. And I was like, Wait, this is going back to that trigger. Um,
yes. And that's what I'll be processing tonight.
Yeah, and it is good. And I love that you're bringing this up. Because just so
you all know, um, no one's ever in trouble. Okay. Um, and the way that I
look at it is, I don't even look at it, like, even though I'm saying, okay, this
is kind of our guardrail here. I want you to think of it when we say that more
as a like, you're not like, I'm not like, hey, you're breaking the rules. It's
more like, hey, just, you know, just to keep a guardrail there. Because some
people too, they will, they will listen to some of those things. And they may
not have the capacity to understand them on their own. And my pastoral heart.
That's something I see a lot in our community. And it's not that other
people intend that I know, even when I share stuff back in the day, I remember
this young lady, I was discipling, I was sharing some stuff with her, and she
just wasn't ready.
She wasn't ready for what I was sharing with her.
And, uh, and so that's probably why I tend to be cautious about it as well.
Um, but just know that we appreciate you and I can see that your heart is to
love and to serve and to help people.
And that's a great thing.
So don't, don't believe any lies of the enemy.
You know, I don't think anything bad.
I thought it was really beautiful that you were willing to help
your sister is what I thought.
But I just wanted just so people knew, um, again, cause some people
didn't hear the beginning and I knew that.
And so, just so people would know.
Um, so lean into that for sure.
And make sure that the Lord is revealing to you.
Um, if you're feeling that in your body as well, to me, that's a double
confirmation that there's something that the Lord's wanting to heal there.
So that's probably why this all happened tonight, you know, um, because I've
seen even people post things before and it's not even intentional, but sometimes
I'm just in the flow and I'm not able to stop because I'm afraid I'm going
to lose my thought to say something about what's posted in the chat.
But tonight I just felt like I had the capacity to do it.
And so ladies, this is how even heart healing happens.
Like I said, sometimes it's just like, as we're going, as we're
in the middle of something.
Um, and so praying for you about that and that you will just see you're a
valuable part of this community.
And we, we are so glad that you're here because you all, I will say
as we close tonight, one of the really cool things, Jackie used to say this all
the time when, um, I was just beginning in the heartwork and praying and, and
we'd go to the prayer calls and she would say, um, for us to kind of just
pause and think about the people that are right here in this moment, in this,
the certain heart attitudes and postures that we're in, like how this
moment will never happen again.
And it's a really beautiful thing just to think about and contemplate, like all
the ladies that were on live tonight, like we're never all going to be in the
same place in our hearts and our thoughts.
And just even being here all at the same time, like, you know, even last week
we have some ladies that have moved on to phase two and so they're still in
the community, but they're not here tonight.
You know, you see how things change.
And so thank you all for being here tonight, praying that God blesses
you, continues to encourage you.
Helps you know that you're seen and loved.
You're a valuable part of this community and we're really grateful that you're on
this journey for yourself, but also with us.
So let me pray us out.
Father, thank you.
Thank you for everything you're doing.
God, thank you for every lady that's here tonight.
Thank you for the plan and the promise that you have for their lives.
Lord, again, just thank you for their love story.
We thank you for revealings for healing that are happening.
We thank you for breakthrough where there's been obstacles, where there's
been even like Sarah sharing things that we've experienced before that are coming
up, even as our things are unfolding tonight, God, we just, we just speak
Pete, uh, peace and healing over those areas.
God, yes, Lord, we're asking for the, the oil of heaven to wash over us from
the top of our head to the bottom of our feet.
Father, I thank you that you would just heal us in ways that only
you can do supernaturally.
God, even some of us have strived for years to get breakthrough God, and you
can like just continue to work that out in us, and we just thank you that
you'll give us the ability to trust you in the process, Lord, help us to
have the courage to surrender our hearts and our lives and our attitudes, our
mindsets to you, we just thank you for, for going into our timelines and healing
our family of origin stories where it's needed as well.
And I just pray that you would give these ladies, sailor rest and
help them just to experience your love in a fresh, intangible way.
More and more and more in the days to come in Jesus name, amen.
God bless you all.
It was been so fun to be here tonight.
I'll see you guys again next Monday evening.
Have a good night, everyone.
Thank you.