you
hello hi how are you pretty good there's nobody else here oh sorry about that I
don't I tried to open up the original like office hours and it was telling me
that it was like invalid so I'm gonna have to go and figure that out same same
okay and I opened some link that I had saved and it said this is scheduled for
Tuesday June 2nd and I was like that's not that's not today what's happening
well cuz we had to make new links cuz Megan was the organizer for the other
one so like we had to do them again I don't know why there's an error so I'll
just figure that out cool but we'll get it fixed either way just see I'm trying
to make sure that no one's like commenting
hey Santa hey okay not everyone made it in
we'll see if anybody else triples in so to start today um we'll just go and get
started but to start today I want to I want to just kind of get like a Stephen
like a vibe check from everybody on just kind of what do you feel like you're
needing so I'm kind of just trying to decide what office hours need to be for
the next you know near future maybe the next couple months or just kind of see
what direction we want to go in if we want to continue the book club if we
want to you know do something a little different or have you know kind of
pointed discussions about anything so this is for now going to be like an open
conversation on what you think you're needing more of or want
More of from office hours, specifically.
So, no pressure.
I don't know that I want to go 1st pretty new.
I definitely like the office hours.
And this time seems to work for me.
I mean.
Other times could work too.
The.
The book club is OK.
I think I'm reading a couple different books,
so it's kind of like.
Trying to catch up with this,
which the book from the book club.
Also, like having other couple other books
that are more like my choice of like,
because it's a pretty regular habit to.
To to listen to audio for me.
It's nice to be able to talk about a book,
but I just need to get on track with that.
What are you listening to right now
or what other books are you reading?
I'm listening to the.
What's your mouth now?
My phone Mel Robbins book.
OK, just let them.
Yep, and then also I'm listening to the prime.
I think it's called Primal.
It's a book that.
Eric.
Erica was reading.
OK, at the retreat, so I downloaded that.
So those are and then I'm also been read listening to the.
The one that we've been.
Listening to.
And on my bed is the damn hotel book.
So it's like I have four books,
I think four books that I'm like really excited about
and then it's like you to focus on one.
And, you know, and just kind of.
But. Yeah, I mean, I like the book club.
Yeah. OK.
Thanks for letting me know.
Thanks for feedback.
Of all the things you're reading,
what are you looking for when you're reading?
You're like your attention is like peak.
Your attention is piqued by all these different books.
What are you looking for?
What excites you about each of the books?
Entrepreneurship and motivation, mostly like.
Like I've listened to a lot of like Amanda Francis,
and this is kind of like kind of what this book is.
It's all it's good reminding
that I feel like I'm supposed to be following some type of guide
and doing that and building my system.
And just not doing that,
but I like her ideas and I like that as a reminder of stuff
that maybe I need to do or I need to put,
I forgot to put this in place type of thing.
So I like that, but mostly just like kind of motivation.
And that's a really weak word.
Inspiration. Maybe.
Yeah, I'm not looking to like read a book to follow the steps.
OK. Of implementation, really.
It's more like power up and mindset, maybe.
OK. OK. That's helpful.
Hey, Kathy. Hey, Michaela.
Sorry to be off camera for a time, but I was thinking for me,
like, I mean, I like the book club a lot.
I was kind of thinking, I don't know, most of the books that we've done,
and I feel like most motivational books are like shorter books,
at least from my context when I'm used to it.
I mean, most of like the fiction books I read are like, you know, on audio or
20 hour books and most of the like nonfiction,
like motivational books we're doing are, you know, a couple of hours.
And so I don't really know that.
I was kind of thinking like we could continue the book club,
but maybe not like do it like on a weekly basis,
more just like we have like one meeting a month where we talk about the book.
Just my input.
You know, if I read any of those books, if I'm reading them,
I'm probably going to do them in like a day or two.
And instead of like spreading out over a long period of time.
But some things that, like, we did when I was, like, going through the accelerator that on our office hours that I enjoy that would be beneficial, I feel like, were, like, the give and ask concept.
I like that a lot. I feel like, like, some, like, celebrating wins I feel like would be great.
And maybe just, like, incorporating more just, like, of, like, a Monday Mindset type, since that's all now, like, you know, in that mixed into that, too.
Those are just a couple of things that I thought would be, like, nice to have in the call. Just my answer.
I mean, I do like the book club, but I think we could probably not spend every week on the book club. We could probably just make that, like, one call a month or something kind of thing.
Okay. That's helpful. Thanks for sharing.
What about you, Margo? I know you said you liked the idea of book club just once a month. Is there anything else you want to add?
I probably am just going to be echoing, like, a lot of what Michaela said. I feel like I like to come and kind of, like, do, like, a check-in and hear where people are at, be able to support if people need support, share, like, things that are going on in my life and my business and ask for support if needed in various ways.
I don't often have, like, specific things to ask for, but sometimes it's exciting to share things with other people who are on a similar journey because they know what it's like to be there or, you know, in a similar place, I guess. Not exactly the same place.
I like it. Something that I was thinking about with book club specifically, because I was like, I don't want to not do book club at all. Sometimes for me, it is hard to focus on actually reading the book. There's just, there's a lot of newness in my life that I'm, like, trying to learn and graft, so it can be hard for me to keep up.
That's kind of why I wasn't in this last one, so I don't mind doing, like, a once a month. That might be helpful.
The other thing that I was thinking about is I like doing updates, too, so I think it's good to, I always think it's good to do any amount of, like, celebrating wins and just, it's good for the brain to celebrate wins and have other people celebrate you, so I like doing that.
The other thing I thought about, too, and this wouldn't be necessarily, like, on any sort of schedule or regimented, but maybe on occasion, I would love to sometimes have you guys share something that you know how to do, share something that you've learned, you know how to do.
Sometimes your strengths, because we all have, like, different strengths. We're at different paces, different things that we already know how to do, or maybe we're new to something, and I like the idea of sharing that information, sharing those skills, and, like, you know, it's similar to the give and the ask, but almost, like, I want to take it to, like, another level where maybe you're even, like, sharing your screen.
And, again, not something that you have to even prepare. Like, I'm not saying, like, prepare a lesson. Just, like, hey, I know how to do this thing in BrainFlow, and I can show you guys real quick, and it could be something super simple. It doesn't have to be crazy. You know, you could be, like, I know how to make an email template.
And I'm, like, just in case no one knows how to do that. So I don't want it to be, like, a high pressure thing at all or really even have to take up. I don't want it to take up a lot. I don't want to take up any time outside of here, honestly, for you guys. So that's something I was thinking about.
And then the other thing I was thinking, let me know what you guys think about this, too, with book clubs. So for one thing that I want to, I have been thinking to transition a little bit is if we're going to do another book or books for the rest, maybe for the rest of the year or maybe just this next quarter, I kind of want to pick something that's more.
I want to focus on, like, a specific topic of, like, business, essentially. So that there are things that are a little bit more practical or, like, hands-on for you to implement, if that makes sense.
And then, because I think that our culture of office hours leans very strongly into mindset, empowerment, encouragement, support, accountability. So we kind of do that naturally now. Like, it just happens. And so.
excuse me, if we could do, I don't know.
The reason why I'm saying this is because I was talking to somebody the other day,
I started reading StoryBrand and maybe you guys already read it.
But I was feeling really inspired by reading it because I was like, one,
this is very motivating and inspiring because the information is so good,
but it's also extremely practical because I need to go
through and read this and also implement it to my business.
Think about these concepts,
do some steps, apply it to my business.
I like it when it gives me almost a tangible output.
I don't know. Let me know what you guys think about that.
If you hate it, like it,
don't care, no preference.
Yeah, I love that, Gabby.
I think I was thinking as far as showing the portion
about actually sharing our strengths,
the things that we know how to do.
That's something that could, I guess,
come up with a given app briefly or whatever on a regular basis.
When the gives and the apps match up,
for me, I'm pretty strong with automations on Rainflow or social media and stuff.
If I say that and somebody else is like,
yeah, that's my app, I got any help with that,
then I can, like you said,
do a share screen and dig into that more.
Yeah, I like the idea of more of a set topic.
I was thinking, I feel like it would be beneficial for almost all of us.
I don't know everybody's business, obviously,
but the ones that I do know,
if we found more of a book on the strategy of social media marketing kind of thing,
I feel like everybody would really benefit from that.
Kind of like how Russell Brunson has books that teach you how to do workshops and stuff,
but a book, and I don't know what,
I'm going to have to search and find a good one or whatever,
but a book that teaches you the strategies of
some good strategies to use on social media for your marketing and stuff.
I think everybody benefits from that in today's world.
Yeah, that's helpful.
Did anybody want to add to that list, essentially, book topics?
If we were to go a little bit more implementation with our books,
any concepts or topics that you would want?
I missed part of the conversation because my dad came in.
Books like copywriting, or like Russell's books,
is that what she's talking about?
Yeah. We're talking about,
I was suggesting that if we do any books maybe for the next quarter,
the remainder of the year, that they'd be a little bit,
I love the mindset stuff, don't get me wrong.
I love the mindset motivation,
but also I would like to implement more books that are more about
I would like to implement more books that are a little bit more practical,
like on specific topics in business.
Because we already have a very strong culture of mindset,
encouragement, empowerment, accountability.
So we bring that to all of our conversations.
So Michaela was saying she liked the idea and she was specifically saying,
if there's books on social media strategies,
that could be really helpful.
So then I was asking any other topics or
phases of business that you would like to read a book on.
I'm just making a list.
Yeah, I like that. I think when I was in Wicca Boyer,
it's just like I was gifted a huge program for a year and we went through,
and it cost a lot of money to get into,
but we went through, I think it might've been Copywriting Secrets.
One of Russell's like secret books.
And it's like every week, but it's a game changer.
Just like going through that book together,
or you got the homework, you read the book or whatever,
and you do the thing that fits into your business
and moving the needle forward.
I think that's a big thing for me.
It's just like moving the needle forward on my business with this call.
Like either if I come into this call and I have a question
and maybe with other people in the room, maybe I can get it answered.
And also what she was saying, Michaela was saying,
just I like the idea of going through a book together
and implementing things that are common.
need. Okay. Love it.
Margot, any suggestions or ideas for you?
Um, I find I'm always drawn to books about money.
Um, I've read and gone back to many times books like The Secret of the Millionaire Mind,
which is more about mindset, but it's specifically about money mindset and how
you have to look at things differently. And that might be too mindset focused,
but I also think it's a different, it's a slightly different skill than just like
having a positive mindset about your day to actually like, think like that book specifically
is explaining how to, how to think like a millionaire, like how to get out of your own
way and like, think about it differently and be willing to do the thing, take the risk,
whatever it is. Um, and I find that, well, and that's because I've got lots of money stories
that I'm working through, but I find I'm always really drawn to those books. And I feel like I
get a lot out of them and I feel like I produce more when I read them or reread them. But there's
probably other more specific, like money related, I just feel like in business money is such an
important part of it that it's really good to understand like even basic accounting and stuff
like that, which is not very exciting to read about or to go through, but, um, it's important.
And I was always taught that what you focus on grows. So yeah.
I love that. Okay. So a couple more minutes, I have another question and then we can kind of
transition into just like normal office hours. So I am going to put out a poll on the group.
I've just noticed that attendance has been lighter in the last month to six weeks or so.
So I'm going to start a poll just if a time change does work better for people, just to like,
I want to just see where everyone's at. Like it might just be at the busy time of the year,
end of school year, end of summer, totally fine. Um, I don't want to necessarily change the time
just for the sake of changing it. I like, you know, set my schedule. So, um, just, I don't know
if you guys have any feedback on if a different time works better for you or what you think,
I don't know, just put any thoughts. I'm open to any thoughts on it.
I like this time, but I'm also flexible and in three weeks I will have vastly more flexibility.
So I think I'm pretty easy going.
Three weeks. It's crazy.
What about you, Michaela or Sienna, time wise, any preferences?
I'm okay with the time. I prefer nine o'clock, but that's all right. So this works.
Yeah, the time's fine with me. I mean, I can, I don't know, you know, my schedule is really weird.
I don't know if I'm the right person to ask.
I will just put something out and just after people's opinion, if they like the time or
time change, and if they want a time change, then they need to recommend them.
And we'll just go from there. I'm thinking it's going to stay the same,
but I just want to take a poll. Good to see every once in a while.
Okay. So let's transition. And I would love to hear an update. And in your update, I do want to
hear like something you're celebrating. Could be a small win, could be a big win. Give yourself a pat
on the back. And then also what is something that you are currently in the middle of, like
currently working on in the middle of. And then also third thing would be an ask, which, you know,
if you want a specific ask on like, hey, how to do this or feedback, or can someone share
information, whatever your ask would be. So celebrate a win. What are you in the middle of?
And an ask. And whoever starts talking first, goes first.
I'll go first. Celebrating a win of like I got my animations. I think it was a lack of
money on my account. So I put some money on my account and here they come. And I mean,
they were, it was so frustrating because I, Steven even helped me with a retreat and was like doing
it work. So.
Oh, now it's just like they're working and I'm in the midst of
working on my my funnel, finishing my funnel because I'm
using the AI studio and the regular funnel, marrying them
together. And just pretty much done. I'm just making changes.
And so my goal is to be done with it with that by the end of
the week. And sorry, you know, I, I did share yesterday that
sorry, I can't hear anything.
I got my Facebook back. And so, yeah, it was a that was a huge
asset that I had that I lost and they said I, I was forever banned.
And so that that was amazing. So I'm celebrating that. And let's
see what else to ask.
What are you? I want to pause for a second because what I want
to know is we talked a couple weeks ago. And it was you're
making that decision of do I just kind of let it go? Or let
it go? Yeah. Is that what this happens so much is like,
sometimes when we surrender something is when the wind comes
on the other side. Not always work out that way. But that's so
I sadly let it go with grieving and and I'm like, okay, and then
I had on my on my to do list, reconnect my, my stuff because
everything was like connected to my Facebook. So it was kind of
like connect them and post cross post. And I didn't have to do
that. And so that was a huge one. It was letting go. And
start being willing to start fresh. And I almost once it came
on, I almost don't want to use it. I mean, I, I had to ask
chat. She's like, yeah, you need to use it. But so I'm not
sure if this is the ask. But before the retreat, I was
thinking I've done summits in the past of like organized ran
summits. And it was just like on my mind about a month ago. And
Stevens released this new thing with AI hire about search and
forget for different things. And, and so someone reached out
to me from other groups, like, do you want to do a summit with
me? Okay. And so right now, I'm training my AI assistant to
start searching, but do the night search. So I'm trying to
learn how to do that. And
is that what you're in the middle of, like, so if you
remember, my second thing was, what are you kind of working on?
Okay, well, I'm in the middle of finishing my funnel, and then
doing ads. But also, in the background, I want to see how
that system works. Okay. Is that something that is going to make
doing a summit worthwhile? Okay. And what would be the point of
the summit? Like, what's the theme topic? It'd be something
AI. You know, I love that space. It's something that I've done in
the past, and I absolutely love and I just put it down. I guess
it's like our summits to all of it. And I guess that would be
my ask.
What do you guys think about a summit? Or about Canada doing a
summit?
Go for it.
I'm like a jump in headfirst kind of person. So if that's, if
you feel like that aligns, and that's a way like if you want to
bring people together, and you think that that's the way that
you should do it, then I'll go for it.
Thank you.
Micaela, do you have anything? I don't know if you were in that
you're looking at stuff.
Um, yeah, I mean, I think summits are I think any type of
retreat or gathering or like, I think they're really trending
right now. I think people just genuinely crave that connection.
I don't know what you're like, what your business is. So like
what kind of like topic you're talking about. But I think
anything that you can like get people together, like, is
is, you know, a great opportunity right now in the
world we live in.
I'm a fun also, what is it? I'm a fun builder.
Okay. Um, yeah, no, I think, I think. I think anything that you
get people together for is like a great opportunity.
Here's my question. Would so would the avatar that's drawn to
the summit be the same as your avatar that you've been talking
about?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I would just make sure it's not a distraction.
Right? Make sure that it's actually aligned, like Margo
was saying, with the direction you're
going and start just pulling you in another direction
so that you're not gonna really move forward.
But I think everyone always loves,
I personally think that everyone's always gonna love
connection, so any type of format
that makes people feel connected is usually gonna do well.
So webinars, in-person things, online retreats,
and the reality is the human is designed
to have connection, so, and you can apply any topic to it,
but what draws people in is partially the connection piece.
So I don't know that that's ever gonna go out of style,
honestly, it might shift in how it looks,
like for instance, you know, however many years ago,
we never really would have had online anything,
everything was in person, but now there's still connection,
connection in person, connection online,
so that's what I thought.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Let's go next.
I can go.
Apparently I've been lazy with my muting and unmuting today.
I have a big deadline for work tomorrow
and my son has a track meet that he wants me to watch,
so I'm trying to get through some work
so I can attend that for my kid.
Anyways, three weeks to go, three weeks to go.
Yeah.
Okay, so a couple of things I'm celebrating right now,
so I did my first like Herdstead Skills Club event,
in-person event in May, I had four people,
it was very exciting, everybody had lots of great things
to say, my next one is running next week, the June one,
and I currently have two people registered
on two separate days, so I'm trying to,
I'm working on getting, one of the things I'm working on
is getting more people registered,
I'd love to have like at least two people for each day,
but it's just exciting that people are finding it.
Somebody randomly found it through Eventbrite,
which is where I listed the events,
just the way I was listing them,
it was easier to do it that way,
and I was like, how did you find it?
And she said, oh, I was just scrolling through Eventbrite,
and I was like, I didn't even know people did that.
Anyways, I guess that's the benefit of using that platform
is it's people go there for events,
and it'll say like happening in your area.
Yep.
That's kind of cool.
And the other thing I'm celebrating
is I started running a farm stand on my property
as an extension of some of the things that I'm teaching
in my skills club,
and just a way to like connect with more people.
Mostly right now I'm selling like sourdough baked goods
out of it, once we have produce like pumping
out of the garden, there will also be some produce.
The first weekend I did, I don't know, a handful of sales.
It wasn't huge, but then this past weekend
was the second weekend,
and I more than doubled what I made the first weekend.
And like had somebody waiting out there
on the Saturday morning for me to put the bagels out.
So I was like, okay, well, this is working,
which is exciting because as I transition
into not working my full-time corporate job in a few weeks,
as of July 1st, I'm done,
I'm having, still having a little bit of fear
around the lack of that like regular paycheck.
So seeing all of the other ways that like money
is coming in is really exciting.
So I'm also celebrating that whole piece.
I'm working on my events.
I live in Canada.
I'm Canadian, eh?
Yeah, so I am working on my events that are happening.
I need to get the summer series posted,
which is July, August, September,
because I've had just some questions and some interest.
And the first couple went, like the spring ones went well.
So that's what I'm like getting that, promoting that.
I'm still doing the yoga retreats.
There's one happening this Sunday.
It's like 70% full, so that's also awesome.
And then I know it's only June,
but like knowing that the like cold and flu season
is like fast approaching, I'm going to.
to get my ebook that I made about like immune support
using natural things published through KDP.
And I'm gonna use that as a low cost lead magnet,
like going into the fall.
I'm gonna aim to start that like in August.
And then I can also use it as a gift
for people who attend events and things like that.
So that's all the things that I'm working on.
Some of them are like kind of waiting in the wings
cause I'm trying to get through these next three weeks.
Yeah.
And I don't know if I have an ask.
Oh, I do actually have an ask,
but it's just like ideas maybe.
So I've had some feedback from people
that I need to do my like homesteading skills classes online.
So if you were gonna attend an online event,
cause I'm like an in-person event kind of person,
but if you were gonna attend an online event
to learn about homesteading,
would you want it to be live
with me like talking and demonstrating?
Or would you be happy to like log in and watch a recording
and take notes and like pause and do it at your own pace?
What do you guys think you would prefer?
I just remembered I did a summit
for a client on homesteading.
Yeah.
I think she did it live.
And if you do it live,
I think it's good.
And then you have, if you record like both,
initially do it live and then record it,
and then you can sell the digital product of it.
Yeah.
I think as an attendee, I like live personally,
but from a business standpoint,
at some point that will get hard a little,
not hard, but take more to scale.
I personally like live.
So I literally never sign up for workshops,
summits, anything like that.
Like literally Rainmakers was it for me.
That's the only thing I've ever signed up for.
But I did recently sign up for one that was,
I don't know if it was like homesteading,
but it was like gardening style and it was live.
And theirs was like a week long event, I think,
or like three day event or something.
And they had like each time was about like a specific topic.
So like one of the ones was kind of like about
like crop rotation.
And it was, I can't remember exactly like
how they worded it,
but it was kind of like making sure you get
like that second harvest,
which I feel like is such a hard thing
because you're like in the weeds of it
and trying to remember like,
oh crap, like let me plant another harvest.
You know, like, and so I did attend that one
and it was actually, the way they did it was like,
they reached out to, they had like other brands come in
and kind of host it with them.
So the one that I actually went to,
was by a company that has like an app
that you can plan your harvest
and it actually like has the dates
and you can kind of like slide it through and see.
And so, and they, I mean, they taught a little bit,
but like at the end of it was obviously an offer,
but then there was another one that was on like composting.
And so that was kind of cool
that they were like specific topics.
Cause I mean, there's so much to it, right?
Like if you just did one,
like this is just about homesteading,
like how do you fit all of that?
However, they did not do recordings of that event.
It was just live.
And it was, like I said, it was three days.
It was very intensive
and I really would have rather been able to like
watch the recordings later.
I do, I got much prefer live events
and I'm much more likely,
like I hate to like watch a recording.
Like the Rainmaker replay is like, I hate to watch them.
Like, I don't know, it's just like, it feels like torture.
Even if I'm not active in them,
like even if I'm just sitting there listening,
but like that particular one, like with the information,
I kind of wish they would have had like replays of it.
And like, I wanted to like send it to my husband
and like say, hey, like, look at this,
but I couldn't because they didn't have replays, so.
No, I don't like watching replays.
Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking too.
So like the way that my workshop,
my in-person workshops are laid out right now
is there's like a specific couple of skills.
Like in June, we're learning,
like it's like an intro to water bath canning.
So we're learning how to make strawberry jam,
we're canning it.
Then they're learning a couple other things
that kind of like go along with this season.
um, this time of year and I was thinking about taking like how to make strawberry jam just
as an example and make that into a video but like that's really it would be like a cooking
show which is fine but I don't know if I can do that and like field questions from the
audience so I'm just trying to think through like I could try I could try and do it and
it might be that if you did something like live online it would be maybe for specific
skills like yeah like you would maybe want to tailor it to what's easier to host on online
live yeah and then you know and that would what would be great for people who are local who are
able to go to you locally it's a draw for them to do both you know so it might be not that you
have to make it so exclusive but like hey in person we're doing this and then online it's
this I don't know there's that's just one thought I have um yeah I think what you're describing
I think what you're describing works better as a as a course than it does as a live event
um I think if you do a lot it's to me I feel like a live event would be more like um teaching us
like the concepts behind it but not actually teaching them how how to do it like I was
thinking of the example of um like something I was just thinking of things like I've had to like
search and um like I was thinking of the example of you know preserving like squash and zucchini
like it's different like it's not it's not like green beans like you're not
canning it um so like the process of like blanching it and flash freezing it um
I feel like that works better as a course that because then you just record like slivers
of it because that's a long process you can't actually same thing with with making jam like
it's a longer process like nobody's gonna watch you for an hour yeah or like you know making
tomato sauce like all those things are like very beneficial and I like to watch videos that show
stuff like that rather than that's it's different from like a recipe because it's like you know
because I mean like I want to actually see like when I do my spaghetti sauce like I bake my
tomatoes so that the skins come off of them and things like that like I watch videos of people
doing that like that's how I learned to do that um so I don't know and then and then because
they're going to want to come back to it like it's not something that they're going to want
to like take notes on they're going to want to come back and watch that video of like hey how
did I remember last year like how did that girl do that you know that's kind of what I was thinking
like having smaller videos that are pre-recorded that they can go to watch and learn and I can also
like use like a snippet of those videos on social media to promote the fact that you can like watch
the whole video over here or whatever so it's kind of what I'm thinking but then I got to get in the
mode of like recording another thought I have is if you for some reason really wanted to can
try to do the live online piece of it it could be almost like how we have our coaching halls where
it's like they're doing stuff on their own like they're doing the court going to the videos during
the courses maybe for a set of things and then it's kind of like come to the call for a little
bit of like could be show and tell a little bit like hey everyone like you know gets to show what
they did and also it's likely that they have questions like hey I did this step and I had
this problem or and it could be a little bit of like tactical support for them um I don't know
ultimately it'd be interesting to see how it goes I mean yeah have them send in their questions and
the register yeah exactly that would be a great one too yeah that I was kind of thinking that too
as like if I if I build that with a kid like with a community like built in with it then have like a
weekly live call where they can I don't know maybe it wouldn't be weekly anyway something
bi-weekly maybe um where they can call in and like okay I tried to do this and it didn't work
and this is what I whatever like this is what I'm dealing with um and I can troubleshoot
I mean I'm ready for you to do it but I can sign up okay
I gotta build it first though
yeah I would be there in person if I could you know just fly on up
all righty Mikayla what about you when what are you in the middle of ask
okay um I'm gonna start with what I'm in the middle of because
because that makes the wins make more sense, I think.
So I've built kind of a course program where
kind of like start to finish, like you sign up
for the free workshop.
And it is all about Christian women using their God-given
talents for income.
So like figuring out what those gifts are,
and then finding a vehicle in the online space
mostly to use those gifts in a business.
So they go to the free workshop.
I kind of tell them about what it is
and what they can get.
And then they sign up for a four-week course
where we go through everything.
We have weekly calls.
The first week, we kind of figure out
what their gifts are.
The second week, we kind of figure out
who their target customer is.
The third week, so on, so on.
And so I'm doing that.
And I've done three workshops so far, or technically two.
I've done two workshops so far.
And the first workshop, I had two people sign up
for the course.
So we went through the course.
And then I just hosted the workshop again.
I had one person sign up.
I'm going to run the workshop again this Sunday
and try to get more people in the course for the next four
weeks.
So that's all, I guess, what I'm doing,
but also kind of wins mixed in there.
I did have, at the end of the course,
I made those that were in it an offer
to continue working with me.
So they could either stay in the community
and kind of keep participating in the course,
or they could work with me one-on-one for a three-month
time period.
And I did have one woman that decided she
wanted to opt in for that.
So that's a win because, obviously, she
got what she wanted from the course
and she felt very strongly about working with me.
So that was a really good feeling.
It was kind of like, I don't even know the name of the person
that Steven described when he was like, I don't know,
his Sharon.
I think it was Sharon.
That's like my Sharon.
She went through the process and got what
I wanted her to get out of it.
So those are kind of wins.
Specifically, what I'm working on right now is,
so the course is something that I feel really good about.
I feel strongly about it.
I love doing it.
The live calls are amazing.
I feel like they really get what I want them to get out of it.
However, the workshop, like I said, I've done it twice.
And both times I did it, I left the workshop feeling awful.
I just did not feel good about it.
I felt very car salesman-like.
I was using the skills that I learned from Steven
and learned from other experts in the field,
like Russell Brunson and whatnot.
And I've figured out that that is not aligned with me,
nor is it aligned with my target audience.
That's just not what I, I'm not targeting business owners.
I'm targeting moms.
And so I am currently redoing the whole workshop.
So when I present the workshop this coming Sunday,
it will be like a brand new workshop.
So last night, I finished, I wrote it all out.
Like it's all written out.
Now I just have to put that into an actual,
onto the presentation for that.
But yeah, so I feel really good about it.
I feel like it's much more cohesive and aligned
with like what I want it to sound like.
It's very like upfront and honest and vulnerable.
And that's who I am and that's what sells for me.
So that's, you know, I'm just gonna really lean into that.
And so that's what I'm working on as far as asks.
Actually I have had, so since I've run the ad,
the ads for the workshop to basically three times
I've run the ads for the workshop,
I have about, I don't know, probably 600 people
in the bank, right, like in my rain flow
that have like shared their emails with me.
And, you know, I'm like, obviously I've been
like retargeting them with emails.
I'm gonna try it a little different this time.
I'm gonna actually like send them a free,
it's gonna be like a free gift.
And it's just gonna be like a PDF.
And when they like go to download the PDF,
it will, it's gonna have the PDF on it,
but at the top of that, it's gonna have,
hey, like you're interested in this,
you should sign up for my workshop, right?
So I think.
I hope that it works better.
My ask is what makes you open emails, right?
Like, because we get so many,
and I know we've all signed up
for like all these different things,
so they're always targeting us.
So if I'm sending them a free PDF
that I'm gonna then try to redirect them
back into my workshop,
I think the most important thing is like the subject line.
Like, how do I, how do they see that?
And they're like, wait, what is this?
I'm leaning towards something like,
here's the download you requested or something,
like something kind of like sketchy, not sketchy,
but like, wait, what is this kind of moment?
Because I actually have a company
that they're like a nutrition company or something.
I don't know, they do like nutrition plans.
I've never bought anything from them.
I don't know why,
I don't even know why they send me emails,
but somehow I've gotten in their group.
And they have gotten me multiple times
with things like that,
because like the subject line will say like,
your subscription is renewing,
or like your plan is ready to be,
like things like that,
that I'm like, wait a minute, what is this?
So I'm curious,
like give me some of your best subject lines
that you've seen that make you open the email.
I'm gonna say for me that I'm a tough nut to crack,
don't open much.
Me either.
I, yeah, it's really funny.
Like I, yeah, so I mean, to me,
like if someone put like free gift in the subject line,
I would be curious enough just to open that, honestly.
But my thought is really the things that I do open,
which is very few and far between.
If I'm opening it, it's because whatever that,
maybe company, brand, whatever it does,
like it is genuinely speaking to me and where I am in life.
And it's somehow speaking to a need,
whether it's emotional, tangible, physical, you know.
So for instance, so like my previous Mary Kay director,
also she has a business.
She's a human design coach,
and she sends out emails, I get her emails.
I almost never open them.
But recently there was, I don't know,
I was just kind of feeling a little like,
you know, unsure of myself just in general in life.
And there was an email she sent, you know,
she targets a lot of like leaders, women, you know,
leaders, could be in business,
could be in their workplace, whatever.
And there was something that just like
kind of spoke to me feeling,
it's just, I think the more we are in tune with our avatar,
the easier it is because then we're speaking their language.
And that does take a little bit of like trial and error.
And I think it also takes like just reacquainting yourself
with your avatar, you know, what are the words,
what are the feelings that they are looking for,
like subconsciously.
I don't know if that's helpful at all, but.
Yeah, actually, as soon as you said that,
I was like, immediately was like,
what if I just use in the subject line,
use the words from the ad that got them there, you know?
Because I have multiple ads,
but there's like one ad that like
keeps grabbing like the most amount.
And it literally says at the top,
like God is calling Christian women, right?
So I was thinking like,
what if I just like use those words as a subject line,
like God is calling you, you know?
I think if God was calling me in my email,
I think I'd probably answer it.
And you, yeah, and you can try to split test that.
That's what I was just gonna say.
Yeah, I would segment it so that you're split testing
between the groups, you know, split it into two,
and just let your subject line literally be the difference
and see what does better.
Sorry, Deanna, you go ahead though,
if you wanted to add to that.
I was just gonna say the same thing.
I was just gonna say,
I think you can split test your emails in Rainflow.
And I saw like, I think they have a new email system,
AI emails or something in the Rainflow
that I've seen videos about on a high level.
I'm like really picky too.
I mean, it's just like,
just because I know how to do headlines,
I mean, it's just like,
I would definitely ask my chat who's,
you know, if she's trading on your business
for like 10 ideas, split test.
If they're coming from an ad,
it needs to be something that's similar.
I mean, I would just split test the heck out of it.
And I'm also like, if someone's like,
can we just charge your bank?
Or, you know, I'm like, what the heck?
You know, I'm one of the-
I don't think that's gonna-
Speak their language
No, I mean not that exact thing
But like what you're saying like your download is here is not for me. It would not I would not open it
Just because
I use that all the time
my Murphy
But if you use that like and and target your your
Your your person your avatar, um, that might work like
And one other thing and you can do in rainflow is you can use her name. That's a huge thing. Mm-hmm. Yeah, for sure
so, I mean, that's this that's a
assess
That's a great way. Hey
Gabby your download is here
What?
You know, I don't think I've ever actually
I don't think I've ever actually I don't think I've ever actually used their name in a subject line
But that is a good idea
I mean, I always have it like at the top of the of the email
But I don't know if I don't think I've ever actually like put it in the subject line. So that's a good idea
Yeah
So I would try that
too
Yeah, I like that
I'm also super picky as I put in the chat and I do not have a problem with
Thousands of unread emails doesn't bother me I can find the ones I need when I need them. I
Always describe myself as like organized chaos
But I think once in a while so have you heard of that brand they do like those face
Those like collagen or peptide or whatever. They are like face mask things quasi
They have some really good lines
Like the one of them I was I was searching I was searching for them and one of them is your skin surprise is waiting
Which obviously like that specific?
thing isn't right for what you're offering or your avatar, but
like
there was also something like about like a test result like as though I had done a quiz or my kid my quiz results and
I was like what what quiz did I do? I went into it and I was like, oh it's this thing
So as much as you don't want to be misleading like there's also something to be said for creating curiosity
like if you can phrase it in a way where there's like
something for them in the email
That's gonna like gonna make them curious curious enough to click and see like what is it that they're talking about?
That can work too. I do like your idea of using your the same like verbiage that you have in your ad
In your email because it's also gonna be familiar. You're gonna be like they're gonna be like I saw that or wait
Like that's speaking to me
Yeah, but something else. Yeah, I was actually when you said the the quiz results are waiting. I have like a
Quiz that I built on lovable that's like I don't know like which women from that woman from the Bible are you I don't have
Or like identify your gifts
I have multiple quizzes that I've created that I use in the course
and so I was thinking like I could probably turn that on lovable into a lead magnet to the workshop and
The subject could say your put your results are waiting or something
But then they're just like there I'm just like to get them. Here's your quiz
Yeah, do the quiz first and I think that's the idea, right?
It's like you can go in and you can do a little quiz and it'll give you more information
I also and I'm affiliate for like a clean perfume company and they have
Some marketing like that where it's like find your ideal scent and it's based on
Like what kind of person you are?
It'll suggest a profile that it thinks but they I've seen them send things like that to like
About his results or or whatever and it's like, oh, what did I get?
Then it's like oh I didn't do it yet. I have to go do it first, but it's pretty like
I'm low commitment. So I feel like people are like, oh, okay. I'll do a quiz like click and
Then if they're honestly at this point when I have emails like that and I open them
I'm like, you know what like a for effort because that was
Yeah, like I know they played me but I'm like good good on you. That was a good one
Hey guys, I didn't have to wrap this up because I got a hit another call, but this was a good conversation
So be on the lookout for my post about times later
and
Yeah, I'll see you all on calls with me