All right, welcome to Supernatural Saturday.
I am so glad that you are here joining me.
I am not at home this morning.
I am out in the middle of nowhere.
You're like, Jackie, you're always somewhere, you're always on an adventure, not really.
But I am today and what I'm at is I am at an inner healing retreat.
It's not a silent retreat, but it's kind of close to that type of vibe where I have come
to really just focus on some areas in my own heart that I want to have healed.
They only take five people at a time and it's out in the middle of nowhere, as I said, and
it's very secluded and it's very quiet and it's very country and it's very contemplative.
Getting out of the big city, getting out of the noise, getting out of the rush of every
day is important a lot.
And friends, for those of you that have been around for a while, you know that I committed
to trying to sabbatical.
If you've been around since last summer, you know that I took a sabbatical last summer.
I wish that I could say that I did it voluntarily, but I did it because I crashed out.
I crashed out and I was kind of forced.
It was a forced sabbatical.
I had no choice but to take a sabbatical because I was burnt out.
And some of you probably feel that way as well.
You're like, Jackie, I need a sabbatical.
And friends, there's lots of ways to take a sabbatical.
Basically the bottom line when it comes to sabbatical is you have to carve out time where
you are doing nothing except just being.
That's what sabbatical is all about.
You know, we are creatures of doing, aren't we?
We're not human beings.
We're human doings.
And we're always doing, doing, doing, doing, doing, doing.
Even those of you that know how to rest, you're usually doing because we're performing rest.
We're not really resting.
We're performing rest, right?
It's still doing.
And the reason why is because we have been matched with a generation.
All of you have been born into a culture that's all about doing.
What have you done?
What have you done today?
Think about it.
You get together with people and they'll say, oh, what did you do today?
And then you list off all the things that you did today.
And there's nothing wrong with doing as long as we understand that our doing is not our
who-ing.
Our who is more important than our do.
And so it's good to carve out some time where you just sit with your who for a while and
you sit with the one that you are, whose you are too.
Not just your who, knowing who you are, but knowing whose you are.
Sitting with that.
And I call that sabbatical.
So whether that's just a couple hours a week where you're sabbaticaling, maybe it's a day
of the week.
I know some people, their day off, they try to, if they have the weekend off, they try
to make one of those days a day where they're just sitting a little bit, being quiet a little
bit more, just being in that place of repose a little bit more.
And there's a lot of things that have come to try to steal sabbatical from us.
Things that try to medicate us, try to numb our minds, entertainment on demand, obviously
social media is one of those things.
But it's really important, friends, that we just get outside and touch some grass.
I feel one of the greatest places to sabbatical is outside, outdoors.
And it's because you are in the beauty of nature, you're in the quiet of nature.
If you can get to a place where there's not a lot of people, maybe going to a crowded
park is not the prescription that I'm talking about right now.
But going someplace where you can just be alone or partially alone with your thoughts
and with God, that will regenerate you so fast, that will rejuvenate you so fast.
You feel tired, you feel burnout, you feel mentally exhausted, you feel like hope has
left the chat.
That is going to bring a lot back.
So that's not what I'm going to talk to you guys about today.
I am doing that.
I just want to let you guys know that that's what I'm doing this weekend.
I'm sabbatical.
I've had this plan since last summer.
So this trip was planned since last summer and here I am.
And I'm by myself, you know, David's not with me here at the retreat.
You know, he's somewhere in this city that I'm in, but he is not with me.
And so I'm just having some time, some space, creating some space where I can just be.
You know, be with God, be with here with my thoughts, be with some unhealed trauma from
my mother's passing.
That's one of the main things that I'm working on getting through and getting over and fully
releasing.
For those of you that have lost a parent, you know that that grief is an, it's an odd
duck, isn't it?
Grief.
As soon as you feel like, oh, I'm good, you know, I feel like I've released this.
I feel like I've come to terms with this.
I feel like I've come to that level of grief.
You know, they say there's these stages of grief.
You feel like you got to acceptance.
You've got to that stage of acceptance where you finally understand and you can release
it and you can move on.
And then, you know, you're right back to bargaining.
You're right back to anger.
You're right back to denial.
You're right.
It's like, oh, wait a second.
This happened six years ago.
Shouldn't I be over this by now?
So for those of you that you had some kind of traumatic loss, whether it was the loss
of a loved one, whether it was a loss of a relationship of any kind, whether it was
a loss of a job or a career, it doesn't matter what it was.
You had a great, a great loss that caused a great grief and a trauma.
And sometimes you revisit that even when you feel like you should be over it.
There is no timeline to this.
You know, I remember back in the day, people would say, well, you know, in the Hebrew,
the Hebrew nation in the olden days, back then, they only gave you 30 days to grieve.
And then you had to, you know, you can sit in sackcloth and ashes for 30 days, but then
you had to suck it up, buttercup.
And you know, I understand we got to move forward, but at the same time, you know, God
is with us.
He's the good shepherd.
Jesus is the good shepherd and he is shepherding us.
And when we're hurt, he's carrying us.
You know, when we're injured, when we're hurting, he's helping us.
He's with us and he's close to us in a special way.
And so if anyone thinks, well, you know, you should be over this by now, now you're just
becoming a victim.
I don't know.
You could be.
I mean, you have to pray into that.
Some of us do take on a victim mentality, but at the same time, I do believe that God
is close to those that are brokenhearted and the crushed in spirit.
Isn't that what the Bible says?
It is.
So if that's for you today, then take it.
But I'm here to move forward in some areas, especially that area, and to really look at
why I might be holding on to it longer than I need to and why it might be deeply bothering
me still.
And it's really interesting because the people at this retreat don't know about any of the
things that have to do with my mother and I.
They don't even know me and they definitely don't know her.
But one of my mother's favorite songs at the end of her life, one of the things that she
listened to on repeat, one of the things that brought her comfort was music.
At the end of her life, she was suffering greatly and she was leaving this life.
And we had a playlist for her and she would lay that phone on her chest at nighttime because
that was particularly when she would feel scared and she would feel sad.
And she would just listen to it on repeat all night long.
She would sleep with that music playing and it was a whole playlist of all different types
of songs that were popular in that year, 2019 and 2020.
And one of those songs was a song that I'm sure is familiar to all of you.
And that song is the song Waymaker.
Raise your hand if you know this song.
For those of you that don't, you may have heard it before.
It just says, he's a waymaker, miracle worker, promise keeper, light in the darkness.
That is who you are.
Like you're singing it to God, that is who you are.
So that was one of her favorite, favorite songs.
In fact, I would say it was her most favorite song.
And today here at the retreat, the retreat just started yesterday, today at the retreat
this morning in our morning devotion worship, that was the song that they played.
Of all the songs that they could pick, you know, of all the gin joints and all the world,
you know, you walk in here, you know, it's like, that's the song that they played.
And I was like, okay, God, I see you.
I see you.
I see you seeing me.
And somebody needs to know that God sees them this morning.
And this is where I want to go with Supernatural Saturday.
So don't leave.
Stay here because God sees you.
God showed me by them picking that song out of the huge catalog of songs that they could
have chosen, the huge Christian music library that exists on this earth.
They chose that song.
And apparently that's the song they always play on the first morning of retreat because
they love it.
And because I forget what she said before she started playing it.
But the bottom line is, is that God's like, okay, little girl, I see what you've come
here for.
I see what you need.
And we're going to start here.
We're going to start with me giving a confirmation by playing your mother's favorite song that
I know that you're here to be released from the pain that you're carrying from your mother,
the pain that you're carrying from her.
And so I want to do a supernatural Saturday this morning on this song just for a few minutes
with you guys.
I won't keep you for long this morning.
I just want us to kind of dig into this because some of us need hope.
And while that song was playing this morning, I was sitting there, the lights were dimmed.
It was a comfortable room environment.
And I just started talking to God as soon as, I got to be honest with you, as soon as
the song came on and I heard it, a little bit of anger came up in my heart, a little
bit of disappointment came up in my heart.
Come on, we're going to get really real this morning.
Because my mom was wanting him to be her way maker and her miracle worker to keep his promises.
She was trusting him and I'm so proud of her.
Even though she didn't live necessarily as a believer all of her life, you know, she
had been in the church as a young person, but there was a lot of spiritual abuse in
the church that she was raised in and she didn't raise us in church.
And there's a lot of different reasons I think that that happened.
But, you know, when I was a little bit older and gone from the house, you know, she started
attending church kind of sporadically again.
And then at the end of her life, you know, when she was diagnosed and she was sick, you
know, she really pressed into her faith.
She really did.
And she really trusted God and those four years of a lot of suffering that she experienced.
But we also saw a lot of miracles.
We also saw a lot of grace.
There was a lot of healing that happened in our family and in my relationship with my
mom specifically.
And there's a lot to be thankful for.
But I just got to tell you that I'm so proud of her.
She could have complained.
She could have felt sorry for herself.
She could have put on, you know, the shoes of the victim.
She could have done that, but she didn't.
She didn't do that.
And that was her favorite song and she sang it and she loved it and she listened to it
and so many other songs that just worshiped God.
And she continued to trust Him until the moment that, you know, He took her to be with
Him.
But when I heard that song this morning, and I haven't heard it in a long time, I think
I've purposely avoided any of that music from that time period because it just brings back
a lot of, you know, hard things.
But when that song came on this morning and that was a song that they intentionally chose
and played, I was like, oh, great.
I wasn't processing it as, oh, okay, God, you see me, you're confirming that you're
going to heal me of this residue that I'm carrying of grief.
I didn't immediately process it that way.
Isn't it funny how a lot of times we will, you know, misinterpret or misunderstand what
it is that God's trying to do or trying to say to us, and it's because we're offended.
Friends, we have to be careful allowing our hearts to be offended because offense will
cause you to have a filter that doesn't allow you to see the goodness of God and what He's
trying to do.
And so I immediately put up my guard when that song came on.
Immediately I began to harden my heart a little bit and to begin to get offended.
Thankfully, just a few seconds later, I began to talk to the Lord and I began to soften
my heart and I began to relax in the moment and I began to release that pain that was
starting to rear up inside of me.
And I began to cry.
And I said, you know, God, she, she trusted you to be her way maker.
And, you know, there's that little edge in my words of, and you didn't, and you didn't
come through.
You didn't save her.
But in that same moment, and then I remembered all the times that I called her and all the
times I prayed over her and all the words that I gave her and all the words that people
gave me that I then gave to her because, you know, so many supernatural things happened.
And then there was this little thought in my mind that, oh, you know, I gave her so
much false hope.
And as soon as I thought that, as soon as that thought came in my mind this morning,
this is what God's.
said to me. He said, Jackie, there's no such thing as false hope.
He said, hope can never be false. He said it can only be misplaced.
Come on, you guys. He said, there's no such thing as false hope.
Hope can never be false. It can only be misplaced.
Hope in me.
And I want to release that over you guys this morning and over myself.
Don't hope in your marriage that's coming.
I'm not saying that none of these things aren't going to happen,
but your hope can never be put in these things. You know that, right?
Don't hope in your future spouse. Don't hope in your paycheck.
Don't hope in anything except Jesus. Hope can never be false.
It can only be misplaced. Come on.
I see a theme because yesterday on our way here, there was nothing,
nothing except country roads and a back country road.
There was no freeways to get here. It was a long ride.
And there was barely any gas stations along this route.
And we stopped because I had to go to the bathroom.
And I'm like, if I don't go now, huh, there might not be,
I might be going on the side of the road later.
So we stopped at this gas station and everyone had the same idea.
There was a line for the women's bathroom.
And there was a lady in front of the gas station.
And there was a lady in front of me, an older lady in line.
And she turned around and her, and her t-shirt said,
in Christ alone, my hope is found.
Come on, you guys, I release it over you.
In Christ alone, my hope is found.
Your hope is not ever going to return void when it is placed in the right place.
And here's the thing, you know, I wanted a different outcome for my mom.
I want her to be fully healed.
I want her to live a vibrant life on earth with her children and her
grandchildren and all the things.
But, you know, I have no idea the conversations that she and God had.
And so often we, we just take up an offense for someone else.
Don't we?
We become offended because we think that God should have done something
different for someone else.
That's not even us having no idea what that relationship on the inside
looks like between them and God.
And what they've talked about and what the hopes and dreams of their heart is.
God has shared some things with me since my mom passed away six years ago about
her own heart and about her weariness of this life and about the suffering that
she experienced here that had nothing to do with the sickness that she had
at the end of her life.
And I can't even pretend to understand my mother's torment.
I'm just an outsider looking in, thinking that I know something.
My friends, hope can never be false.
Hope can never be false.
You guys know, if you know me, if you've met me in person, you probably know
that I have hope tattooed on my hand.
Not a big tattoo tattoo, but I have hope tattooed on my hand.
And the reason why is because I believe I have been created to hand out hope to
people.
I'm definitely what we talk about when we say a hope dealer.
And so of course it's important to me to not think that I'm giving anyone false
hope.
Right?
But it's up to people to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to,
to people to take the hope that is being extended to them and place it in the right
place.
So I want to go through the lyrics of this song this morning and I want you to begin
to take what you need.
Have you ever seen those papers that are up on bulletin boards and maybe taped to a
pole outside on a street where it just says, you know, take one and it's a sheet of
paper and it has some kind of message on it, some kind of event, some kind of thing.
And then at the bottom it's cut into little like a fringe and then you just rip off
one of the little things on the bottom.
Like take what you need, like take one, take this phone number.
If you're interested in what this, this poster says, you can take a little piece of
that poster that has the information that you need on it in order to get access to
whatever that thing is.
So that's what we're going to do this morning.
Take what you need.
Whatever it is that you need, you're going to take.
And so we're going to start right here.
So for those of you that don't know that song, I'm going to go ahead and really
encourage you to go listen to it.
Because some of you have spent many, many, many weeks,
maybe months, maybe even years
asking God to change your circumstances.
But today we're gonna talk about
something different than that.
We're gonna talk about what if our breakthrough
doesn't begin with our circumstances changing?
What if it begins with us just remembering who God is?
It's easy to forget.
And this song reminds us,
he's a way maker, a miracle worker, a promise keeper,
a light in the darkness, that is who you are.
Right, it's not saying that is what you do,
it's saying that is who you are.
So here's our first activation for today's call.
Which one of those four things of God,
of who he is, his character,
do you need God to be for you right now?
Do you need a way maker?
Do you need a miracle worker?
Do you need a promise keeper?
Do you need a light in your darkness?
Go ahead and put it in the chat.
What do you need?
Someone's like, I'll take all four, baby.
Seriously though, I want you to pick one.
Of course we need him to be all four,
but I want you to pick one that really resonates
with where you are right now in life.
What do you need God to be?
Do you need him to light the path in front of you?
Do you feel like it's dark?
Do you feel confused?
Do you feel lost?
Do you need a light in the darkness?
Do you have some promises that are as heavy on your heart
and you just need him to keep his promise to you
in whatever area, whatever prophetic word,
whatever promise that you've received?
Do you need a way to be made out of no way?
Are you in a very difficult place
and do you need that proverbial red seed apart
and for God to make a way out of no way?
Do you need a miracle?
Do you straight up need a miracle?
A miracle in a relationship, a miracle in your finances.
A miracle is something that makes no sense.
There's no way that it could have happened.
It's one of those things that you look at
and you're just like, everybody looks at it
and they're like, this is impossible.
Like this, this doesn't make any sense.
I have no idea how this happened.
Come on.
No idea.
Trina, don't be afraid to pick.
Friends, there's no scarcity in the kingdom of God.
Just because you're declaring that you need him to show up
in a certain place in his personality and character
in your life right now,
you're not negating the rest of the things.
You're not saying, yeah, you know,
I'll pick one and I'll do without the rest.
That's not what we're saying.
We're just declaring this right now.
I need a promise keeper.
I need a waymaker.
Okay, all right.
So let's talk about some of these.
Let's talk about a waymaker.
I mean, look in the word.
You guys, the word is what we have to go on.
And if you've not been in your word for a while,
I wanna encourage you to get in your word.
Not into someone else teaching you the word,
not into some podcast, not into your favorite podcast,
into the word, not into some podcast,
not into some sermon on YouTube, into the word yourself.
You'd be amazed at what God can show you.
You're like, well, Jackie, I'm no theologian.
I don't even know what I'm reading.
I don't care.
Holy Spirit is with you.
And Holy Spirit is a theologian.
Holy Spirit will, you know, he is the spirit of truth.
He is the teacher.
He will come and he will show you what you need to see.
You will see things in a different way,
in a different light than you've ever seen them before.
You will understand things that you never understood
if you will just give it a chance.
But if we do get in the word of God,
we see that God specializes in places that are hard.
Doesn't he?
In places where there's no clear paved path.
Because if there was already a path,
then we wouldn't need a way maker.
We wouldn't need a way maker.
This is why I think it's Matthew 7, 11 says
that we should ask, seek and knock.
What are we doing?
We're staring at closed doors.
We could be wondering why God hasn't opened that door yet,
but maybe he's not opening that door
because there's an entirely different door.
And you're not gonna know
if you don't knock on a lot of doors.
One of them's gonna open because he's a way maker.
You see in the Word of God that there's a lot of things that should have been obstacles
in people's lives, but it wasn't.
The Red Sea wasn't even an obstacle.
We just talked about that.
It became a highway, didn't it?
Oftentimes, I have seen that God doesn't actually remove the impossible.
He just walks you right through it.
He makes a way.
He makes a way through it.
I know that we would like to not come to it.
I'm sure that they didn't want to come to the Red Sea.
It wasn't a punishment, you guys.
The Red Sea wasn't a punishment.
It was meant to be the second experience because he just delivered them out of Egypt.
He had made a way for them.
That was a miracle, right?
And then he brought them to the Red Sea.
He brought them to a place where he was about to show them more about who he was and what
he could do.
That was important.
It wasn't a punishment.
A lot of times we get to these Red Seas in our lives and we're like, oh, I took a wrong
turn somewhere.
God's mad at me.
This is some kind of punishment.
Now I'm trapped.
Now I'm stuck.
That's not what's going on.
God wants to walk you through.
So for those of you that chose that, or maybe you didn't choose it, but ask yourself right
now, where have I convinced myself that there's just no way?
Go ahead and put it in the chat.
Where have I convinced myself that there's just, I can't get there from here.
I can't get there from here.
Maybe your excuses, I'm too old, it's too late, I should have started earlier, I can't
retire because I should have started saving money when I was a lot younger than I am.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Where have you convinced yourself that there's just no way?
Can't afford to go back to school.
Don't have the time.
Lots of people putting up a lot of stuff about debt.
I want you to, whatever it is that you're writing down, I know you're writing it in
the chat.
Hopefully you have a pen and paper somewhere.
Hopefully you journal during Supernatural Saturday, because it doesn't matter what I'm
saying.
It doesn't matter what the replay says.
It matters what God is saying to you while I'm talking.
That is the treasure.
And so hopefully you're writing those treasured thoughts down somewhere so that you can go
back and look at them again.
For those of you that are doing that, write underneath whatever you just wrote.
I want you to write, God is already making a way, even if I can't see it.
Isn't that what the song says?
Even when I can't see it, you're working.
You never stop.
You never stop working.
Romans 8.28 tells us that he's going to work all things to our good.
And that means that if it hasn't worked to your good yet, that means it's not over yet.
The story's not over yet, right?
So miracle worker.
Let's go to the second one here.
Miracle worker.
Let's think about the miracles in the Bible.
Remember we're going to go back to the word.
I feel like God wants us all to go back to study hall in this season of life.
We got to go back to the word.
What does the word say?
It doesn't really matter what you think.
It matters what's the word say.
It's not about what you believe.
It's about, you know, it's not about what God can do.
It's about what you believe he can do.
And so it's like, what does the word say?
Let's see what he did for others.
The people in the word of God that are mentioned in the word of God, the stories that are in
the word of God, these people are regular people.
They're flawed people.
They're not better than you.
They're not different than you.
That's what I love about it.
And all of the miracles that we see, let's think about the miracles that we see.
Most of them started with some kind of insufficiency, right?
The loaves and fishes, the one with the issue of blood, the doctors couldn't fix her.
There was an insufficiency there.
See the widow, the cruise of oil that didn't fail, the famine, all the things, right?
Five loaves, two fish, empty jars, dead dreams.
Miracles tend to start with what we could never get our hands on.
We don't have the resources.
We can't fix this.
This is unfixable.
What about promise keepers?
And this is where I get stuck, because I know that God can, but I don't always believe
He will.
And maybe that's where you guys are as well.
In my past, I have believed that I wasn't good enough, not ready enough, not mature
enough.
I hadn't earned it yet.
I have let go of a lot of those ideas.
But when time goes on and nothing's happening in the areas of our promises, we start to
believe that maybe they're not going to actually come to pass, right?
It makes us question those promises.
And most of the promises are not miracle level.
They're just things that could easily happen.
Like all of you are here because you believe that God has given you a promise of marriage.
That's not a miracle situation.
Now, some of you will be like, but Jackie, it's 2026.
It is a miracle.
Yeah.
And I know because it happens every day, literally, thousands of people are going to get married
today.
Why not you?
But when it doesn't happen, that makes us doubt.
But we have to understand that there are things that we have to participate in, and all of
you are here because you're participating in those promises.
But even when we participate in those promises, sometimes it doesn't happen the way that we
think it should or when we think it should.
But when we look back at the word of God, we see that God has never broken his word
not once.
So I want you to put in the chat right now, what have my actions, I'm trying to word this,
I'm trying to think, because I don't want you to say just what have I stopped believing,
but what have my actions said that I stopped believing?
Because remember, God does his part, but we do our part.
And so when we stop believing, we start doubting.
One of the first things that we do is we stop participating, we stop partnering with God.
So if I was looking at your life and looking at the actions that you take every day, where
would I see that you have stopped partnering actively with a promise?
Which means that you're in doubt right now that it's going to come to pass.
You've kind of just sort of given up on that.
Where would I see that in your life?
What promise have you quietly stopped believing and taking action on?
Go ahead and put that in the chat.
I'm just going to activate a couple of people here just really quickly.
So Jamie is saying that he would allow my speaking ministry to come or to never come.
Here's the thing.
If any of you are like Jamie, you feel your promises to speak and you feel called to speak,
I want to give you advice, practical advice from someone who does speak, obviously, and
that is to speak.
I remember a young woman asked me one time.
I was at a speaking engagement, ironically, and afterwards, this young woman came up to
me and she goes, oh, you know, I have a call of God in my life to speak and blah, blah,
blah, blah, and da, da, da, da.
And I was like, oh yeah, that's awesome.
And she's like, well, can I ask you something?
And I was just like, yeah.
And she was like, how do I, you know, how do I, you know, get on?
You know, I think that she said that the promise of God was that she would speak at, you know,
in arenas and in stadiums and on big stages and, you know, you know, stuff like that bombastic
kind of promise.
And I was like, great.
You know, that's amazing.
And she's like, well, you know, how, you know, how do I, how do I get there?
And I said to her, very simply, I said, well, what would you speak about on those stages
and in those stadiums and arenas?
And I forget what she.
said. I wish I remembered, but your girl doesn't always remember details. So forgive me for that.
But whatever she said was something like, you know, God's love or, you know, this,
I just don't remember what it was, but she said it to me. And then I said back to her,
okay, who have you told that to today? And she was like, what do you mean? I was like,
if you would speak on big stages and arenas and stadiums about this, who have you spoken
about this to today? And she's, well, nobody. And I was like, well, that's where you start.
If this truly is the passion of your heart, if this is truly the message of your life,
then there shouldn't be a day that goes by that you're not sharing it with someone,
the person sitting next to you in the DMV, the person on the bus, the person here,
your person in your class. Now I'm talking about proselytizing or trying to shove the gospel down
people's throats. But you know, what she wanted to talk about was more about like her testimony,
what God did for her. You should be telling that everywhere, every day to somebody. And guess what?
When that happens, doors start opening for you. God's the way maker. Doors start opening for you.
But you know, we always want to start at the end of the promise. That's why you guys are here. A
lot of you, all of you have a promise of marriage over your life, but it doesn't start at the altar.
It starts at you preparing your heart, you making space, you making room.
You know, he's a way maker, but you have to be a room maker. So you're doing that. That's what
you're doing here. You're doing the work. You're finding out why you've been attracting the wrong
people. You're taking a deeper look at your objections to relationship. You know, I post a
lot of things on my Instagram. A lot of people have a lot of deal breakers that are just things they
don't like to do. They don't want to drive across town. They don't want to deal with traffic. It's
like, oh, that can't be my love story because it's inconvenient. Well, I'm going to tell
you something right now. Your love story is going to be inconvenient. It is.
I happen to know Jamie and she's amazing. And you know what? There's a lot of people
that could learn a lot from her. And the bottom line is, is that you have to just begin to speak
anywhere and everywhere you can, even if you have to set up your own speaking engagement,
meaning that, and I've done all this friends, meaning you take the free room at the library
and you invite anyone who wants to come in here. You're like, how do you do that? Put a poster up
at a coffee shop. Maybe only three people come, but who cares? Is this about numbers? Is this
about you doing what it is that you're called to do? I think I've told this story many, many times,
but I used to have a prayer call. There's 202 of you on here listening to me right now,
but I used to do this 15 years ago and nobody came. And the only way that the free conference
call number would record the call so that I could put it up on my Facebook so people could listen
to it and replay, because there were some replay listeners, was if one other person besides me
joined the call. And so my husband would call in from a different number and join the call
simply so that I could record it. Sometimes you got to start where you got to start.
And if you're not willing to start there, and I'm not saying this to Jamie, I'm saying this
to all of you. If you're not willing to start there, I know so many people who don't want to
date. They don't even want to go on one date. They want God to door-dash their husband or
wife right to their front door. I'm sorry, friends. That's not the way it works.
It's the pregnancy that creates the parent. The process is important. Some people's processes
is important. Some people's processes are longer than others. Some people make their processes
longer inadvertently because surrender is a portion of this. But I'm telling you,
so I told that girl, who are you saying this today? She said, no one. I said, well,
that's where you start. That's where you start. Because if you're really passionate about this,
if you really care about this thing and you want everyone to know what it is that you have to share
from your heart, then that would look like something. That would look like something,
wouldn't it? Some of you have other talents and gifts that you're waiting for someone else to
recognize and give you permission to use. You're good at creating something or making something or
art or something, and you're waiting for an opportunity, a door to open, God to make a way
for you to use this gift talent thing in a bigger or deeper way. No, God already made the way for
you when he gave you the desire and he gave you the talent. You make the way. You take the way.
Start creating it and giving it away. Yeah, you know, it costs some money to coach with me now,
but I used to coach for
free. I used to coach for free. How would anyone know that I could coach if I started charging
money for it immediately when I didn't have any reputation as a coach? I knew that I was a good
coach. I knew that I was a wise counsel. I knew that God had given me wisdom beyond human reasoning
in areas where people would get breakthrough. How did I know that? Because I was always helping
people. I was always coaching them. I was always prophesying. I was always doing things that were
causing people to get married. And so then what did I do with that? I began to give it away and
give it away and give it away until I was in a place where I had a lot of street cred.
I had a lot of people who said I helped them get married. I had a lot of people that I had
match made. I had a lot of people that were looking back to me as the point where heaven
met earth and helped them step into their love story. And then it became a business tree.
It was a ministry that became a business tree, but I didn't charge for it right out of the gate.
And I just want you guys to know this. What you guys have here and what we provide for you here
is extensive and it's very successful and it's very supernatural, but we still charge
the least amount of money for it than anybody else out there. When I first started doing this,
there were no other programs that were even similar at all to ours. And now there's many,
and they charge thousands and thousands of dollars up front for you to join those ministries
or businesses. And they do not have even an iota of the success stories that we do.
So it's not about money, friends. If you make it about money, you make it about fame. You make it
about significance like that girl was. She didn't realize that that's what she was doing, but she
was making it about her significance. Not understanding that it's about the simplicity
of your message, not about the significance that you may someday acquire from that message.
Let's keep going.
You guys put up where you stop believing and that's great. I thank you for doing it because
healing begins with honesty. It does. We got to get honest. God's not afraid of our honesty.
So let's talk about light in the darkness.
Darkness isn't something that we fight against. David's on here. I see that he's on here,
my husband, and I used to talk about this a lot. I actually made a little photo quote that I put up.
You guys have been doing this for a long time. I've been doing this all the way back to,
I don't know, 2007, 2008. And I just want to say that one of the things that I put up was a little
photo quote that said, you don't have to fight the darkness, just turn on the light. You don't
have to fight the darkness, just be the light. Because I saw so many Christians out there trying
to fight against evil and fight the darkness. And you could be trying to fight the darkness in your
own life, but you don't have to fight darkness because darkness is no match for light.
And I used to, when I used to speak this message, I used to say, Hey, have you ever gone into a dark
room and flipped on the light switch? And when you flipped on the light switch, there was this moment
where you heard this tussling and this racket and all this crazy commotion. And then finally the
light comes on. That's what is that? That's darkness and light fighting and wrestling to
see who's going to win before the light finally comes on. No, that never happens. You want to
know why? Because darkness is no match for light. It's no match for light. You turn on the light
switch and the light comes on, the darkness flees immediately. Darkness is not something that you
fight. And some of you have spent months, maybe even years trying to wrestle with the darkness
in your life, wrestling with fear, anxiety, confusion. But instead of that, you just need
to invite more light. Get in the word. Get in the truth. Even the tiniest little bit of light
penetrates the darkness, doesn't it? Think about it. You're laying in a dark room. You're trying
to go to sleep like I was last night in this room that I'm not used to. And there was a teeny tiny
little light on the smoke detector, tiniest, tiniest little light. But you would have thought
that it was a big, huge lighthouse light in this room because it was keeping me from going to sleep
because my eyes just kept getting drawn to it. Even though the room was pitch black,
that light was shining bright.
And then the bridge of the song is already something that I quoted, but I love, even
when I don't see it, you're working.
Even when I don't feel it, you're working.
You never stop.
You never stop working.
And the Word of God tells us that, you know, faith walks without sight.
We walk by faith and not by sight, right?
Not by feelings.
And we don't like that.
That's not fun.
But when we know his character, that's when we can have more confidence in that faith
walk.
When we know how big he is and when we know that our hope is never false, it's always
just misplaced because we've put it in ourselves, we put it in our abilities, we put it in some
other human being.
Our hope is in the wrong thing.
I remember, you guys, years ago, I struggled with severe panic disorder in my 20s.
You guys, I couldn't leave my house.
The only place that I could leave my house to go to was my job, which was at my church.
And that's it.
I lived my life in a five-mile-square radius of my house for over a decade.
My biggest desire in those days, in my 20s, was that I could just be a normal person and
go to the grocery store.
That's all I wanted.
I just wanted to be able to go to the grocery store like a normal person.
But my adrenals were fried.
I had severe OCD.
I had severe panic attacks and panic disorder and agoraphobia.
And I was just a mess.
And I was a believer, obviously.
I had become a believer at 22, but, you know, my body was wrecked from trauma and it was
going to take years.
It was going to take years to recover, you guys.
I wish I could tell you that my recovery happened quickly, but it didn't.
It took me years to recover, but I did recover.
I did recover.
I can travel now.
I can go on airplanes.
I can go places.
Right now, I'm by myself at this place, you know, with strangers.
I would have never been able to do that in my 20s.
And so for those of you that think that this is going to be the rest of your life, whatever
situation you're in, no, it's not.
It's not going to be the rest of your life.
But I just remember that I was in the car and I was trying to get from point A to point
B. I was trying to get from my house to my job at the church.
And like I said, this was the only commute that I could really do.
But the unthinkable happened.
There was an accident on the road and I ended up in bumper to bumper parking lot type traffic
on my route.
Now, you guys, I was only able to do this because I had done it many, many times and
it took exactly 15 minutes and I could just make it.
This is back before cell phones.
This is back before, you know, all the things.
Just me alone in my car trying to get from point A to point B. But now there's an obstacle
in the way.
There's an accident and the traffic's not moving.
So something that would have taken 15 minutes and I could barely, barely do the 15 minutes
was now going to take, I don't know, an hour, an hour and a half.
I think I was in the car for two hours.
And I started to flip out, you guys.
I started to, my adrenaline, my fight or flight started to spike.
I started to have a panic attack.
And you guys, I don't know if you've ever had panic attacks, but the kind of panic attacks
that I had were out of body experiences that were very, very scary.
You feel like you're dying.
I mean, I can't tell you how many times I called the squad in my twenties thinking that
I was dying.
Okay.
And I remember as this starts to happen, God just says to me, He said, what are you trying
to get to?
And I was like, I'm trying to get to the church.
I'm trying to get to where the people, you know, the people that I trusted were there.
The people that I worked with, my pastor was probably working in his office.
You know, he's like, well, and this is what he said to me, he said, well, if you're dying,
he's like, how are they going to help you?
And I was like, what?
He's like, yeah, you know, if you're dying, if this truly is an emergency, he said, how
are humans going to help you?
And I started to deescalate a little bit.
And I started to realize that, you know what, if I really am in this serious situation that
my body is in, I'm going to die.
he's telling me that I'm in,
I'm going to die.
if I'm really in this serious emergency situation,
I'm going to die.
you know, human help can do very little,
kind of a crapshoot.
And he showed me that day in the car
that my hope was in the wrong thing.
My comfort was in the wrong thing.
My security was in the wrong thing.
It was in the limited ability of human beings.
Yeah, you know, sometimes humans get to the scene
and they can help and other times they can't.
Another person that's at this healing retreat right now
is an EMT and she was just talking about last night,
you know, getting to the scene of some boy
who was doing something he shouldn't have been doing
and she couldn't save him and he died.
Humans are great when they're great.
They're great for what they're great for,
but they can't be our source.
And in that moment, in the car,
I was delivered of something.
I was delivered of misplacing my trust, misplacing my hope.
There was a type of supernatural surrender
that came over me
because God had already been teaching me the hard work.
So when you guys read that part in the book
about supernatural surrender,
just know that I lived it, baby, okay?
I was the first student.
I didn't get that from somebody else
or somebody else's teaching.
I got it straight from heaven as a download.
And I know that you guys are all here
because, you know, I do carry an anointing
in the area of people's love stories.
God has gifted this movement with the ability
to supernaturally help people here.
But please don't get it twisted.
Your matchmaker is always gonna be God.
We're just his little helpers.
So at the end of the day,
I just want you to know that your hope is in him.
Your hope is in him.
And every day when you get up in the morning,
that's what you should be saying.
You should be saying,
hey, there's all these things that I want.
There's all these things that I'm hoping for.
But my hope is in you, Jesus.
My hope is in you.
Because either this is gonna happen
or something better is gonna happen.
Because you know me.
Now, friends, having your hope in him
is not an excuse for apathy.
You've gotta do your part.
And that's a different Supernatural Saturday Call.
And we've had it many times.
You've gotta do your part.
You've gotta show up.
You've gotta take imperfect action.
In fact, that proves that your hope is in Jesus.
You're like, well, Jackie,
doesn't that put my hope in myself?
No.
It doesn't put your hope in yourself.
This is not a passive faith model.
This is a faith without action is dead religion model.
Faith without corresponding action is just dead religion.
It's just you saying that you believe something
that you really don't believe
because your actions say you don't.
Now, some of you have the card before you.
I'm gonna give you the card.
Now, some of you have the card before the horse.
I feel that in the spirit.
So I'm just gonna release that over you guys.
Some of you have the card before the horse.
So let's get the horse before the card.
Pray into that word.
Say, hey, do I have any cards before the horse?
Some of you are trying to do something that comes later.
There's something that comes
before what you're doing right now.
The reason why what you're doing right now
is not succeeding is because there's something
that comes before it.
It's like a recipe.
You know all the ingredients,
but you've skipped to the ingredients that come later
instead of the ingredients that have to go first.
There's an order to things, right?
And for those of us that don't like rules,
we don't really like that very much, do we?
We're like, I'll just do it however I want.
This is the destination.
Why can't I just show up over here?
This is where I'm trying to get to anyway.
It's kind of like back in the olden days, you guys,
when we played video games.
I don't know if any of you are this generation with me,
but there were several video games
where you could get to a certain place,
but unless you had picked up certain items,
you couldn't get to a certain place.
Like Indiana Jones comes to mind, that video game.
Yeah, you could get to the Temple of Doom, you could get there, but you couldn't dig
if you hadn't gone and found the shovel first.
Like, there were things that you had to do before you got to the place.
And it was kind of deceiving because in the video game, you could see where you needed
to go to, and you could go there, you could just go in there.
You go into that place.
The problem is, is that you couldn't do anything in there because you didn't have what you
needed to be in there.
And this is what we do so often.
We try to just skip to the end.
So I want you to really pray today, right now.
Start right now.
And then when we get off the call, spend a few more minutes and just say, Hey God, order
my steps in your word.
Speak to me in this season.
Show me where I've misplaced my hope.
Show me where I have apathy and I'm not participating.
You are the way maker, but I still got to walk it out.
You are the miracle worker, but I still have to give you my loaves and fishes.
You are the promise keeper, but I have to participate in the promise.
You are the light in the darkness, but I got to switch on the switch.
You are all those things, but I have a part to play in that.
So show me, teach me, show me, heal me, grow me, show me.
Something might come to mind.
You might remember something that you've been working on.
A scripture might come to mind.
You might feel just a knowing in your heart.
And if none of that stuff happens, continue to pray that prayer until you see something.
You get an aha moment because you will.
Don't give up in that moment.
It might happen later on today when you're out and about.
You might see something and be like, oh yeah, that happens to me all the time.
Continue to press into that question until it's answered.
So Father God, I thank you for your sons and daughters.
I thank you for this time together.
I thank you that you are all of those things and more, that you are El Roy.
You are the God that sees us.
You see us.
You love us.
You're with us.
You're for us.
Life is for us.
There's no point in time when you are saying, hey kid, good luck.
I hope you make it.
That is not what your word says.
Your word says that you are with us like a good shepherd.
You are leading us.
You're guiding us.
You're loving us.
You're protecting us.
You're bringing healing to us.
You're bringing comfort to us.
And so you are that God.
And so we declare that right now over ourselves, over each other.
We're not going to believe anymore that somehow the deck has been stacked against us.
That's not a thing because you are the house and the house always wins and we are the children
of the house.
And that means we always win.
And so Lord, we just declare that right now, that we are winners, that we are not losers,
that we are the head, that we are not the tail, that we are above and we are never beneath.
And so Lord, if we've been living beneath, if we've been living below, we don't have
to live there anymore.
Show us why we have chosen this status in life.
Show us why we believe what we believe.
Teach us and show us and heal us and grow us.
It's time for the children of God to arise.
It's time for us to step into the promises that you've given us because they're not about
us.
They're about lineage and legacy.
We think they're about us, but they're really about what you want to accomplish in the earth
through us.
And so there's no time like the present.
We know that you are not dawdling, that you are not hindering us, that you are not holding
out on us.
And so we have to release whatever it is that we're holding onto instead of you so we can
accelerate and expand.
Let it be so.
Isaiah 54 in full effect.
It's time.
In Jesus name.
Amen.
All right.
I love y'all.