All right, so welcome to Men's Monday.
I am Jackie Dorman, if you don't know that, and I'm the founder of Last Year Single.
And I don't come on here that much.
I used to coach you guys exclusively.
I used to be your coach, but things have changed a lot over the last few years, and they're
about to change again.
So I want to make an announcement to you guys that we're going to fully integrate our program
into co-ed.
So you guys will only have one session a month that is men only.
You will have like an accountability group, a place where you can post, a place where
male coaches can respond to you.
But we have an entirely different program rolling out, and it's going to be really great.
So for you guys that have been digging into your heart work kind of on your own, you will
have coaches for heart work, because ladies have coaches for heart work.
We have a whole program around heart work on our ladies' side.
And so if you're in that phase, in that phase of doing heart work, there's coaching available
at 1 p.m. and 8 p.m. Eastern on Mondays.
So you can go to either one of those.
You can watch the replays of those.
Same thing with dating coaching.
Dating coaching is available at 1 and 8 on Tuesdays, every Tuesday.
And that's stuff like attachment styles, boundaries, divine feminine and masculine, just practical
dating advice, kind of what we do on Ask Jackie and when we do online dating in phase three.
And then, of course, those offerings will also be available.
So it's kind of a full calendar of stuff that you can participate in as you want to.
You will have a men's only group where you can post and have answers in real time.
You guys don't post a lot.
You don't have some dedicated – we had dedicated coaches for you guys, peer coaches in your
groups, but men hardly ever coached or hardly ever posted.
So those coaches were very underutilized and we had to redistribute them elsewhere.
But if you guys want to post and you want to ask questions, you want feedback on dates,
you want different things like that, we'd be happy to do that via your group.
But Monday nights, the last Monday of the month will be your men's only going into August.
So that will start immediately in August.
No more Monday nights except for the last Monday of the month.
But you will have access to the first week Ask Jackie, the second week Advanced Heartwork.
I really encourage you guys to go to Advanced Heartwork with Bethany Cooper.
She's digging into identity stuff, stuff that might still have you stuck.
I don't have any of my OGs on here besides Hunter and David, but there isn't any reason
why any men in our program that have been here for a few years shouldn't already be
either engaged or married.
If that was the trajectory that you came here for.
So we need to dig down into what's holding you back, what's really happening.
We're always stuck on the inside, not the outside.
So Advanced Heartwork, really important session.
That's the second week of the month.
The third week of the month, we have online dating coaching.
For those of you that are using apps, you need more skill, more strategy for that.
And then the last week of the month will be that men's only, women's only sessions.
And then, of course, on Mondays and Tuesdays, you always have the ability to drop in at
one or eight o'clock to a Heartwork, and on Tuesdays, one and eight o'clock to a dating
coaching session if you need some coaching in real time.
The other thing that we're rolling out at the end of August is our community-based matchmaking
app.
So it will be where the program exists right now, exists on last year's single app.
That app will be disappearing.
The new app will be, it'll have all the programs and curriculums and events and replays and
all the good stuff that it has now.
It'll have the groups and the peer coaching available, but it will also have the ability
for you to meet other people, either in the program or people that have come in from the
outside from the public.
Not like a dating app, more like a build your village.
Did any of you guys take my book club?
Anybody?
I did.
Okay.
So it'll be based on that.
It's based on my Modern Dating Sucks book, and the app is a tool in which to meet people
in your area, build that six degrees of separation out, so where you're able to meet people,
you're also able to introduce other people as well into the community, friends of yours,
people that you think should meet others.
And then also, there will be a new place for single spotlights, also called Jackie's List.
So on this app, it will be called Jackie's List, and it will just be a list of people
that I'm promoting within the program that month or that week.
week or whatever it will be.
So people that were basically matchmaking, and that will rotate.
There'll be different people that are spotlighted or highlighted on that list every month.
And that's all included in your membership here.
All of you are grandfathered into the new stuff, so your $37 a month won't change.
It will change for people that are coming in from the outside.
I don't know what those numbers are, but I do know that everyone who's already in the
program will just stay at this level.
Cool.
So those are my announcements.
That's why I recorded the session, and we can go ahead and dig into any questions that
you guys have.
Hunter, I know you're probably biting at the bit to ask all kinds of different things,
but I would just ask you to just keep it to one question until other people have a chance
to ask questions as well.
And let's kind of keep these questions short and sweet.
You guys can ask me anything.
You can ask me about dating.
You can ask about a specific scenario that maybe you're dealing with, a heart work thing
you might be dealing with, and or just anything about the program.
The new guys probably have been a bit lost because things have changed so drastically
since the program started.
So I feel like it's not been as structured or organized in the last year or so on our
men's side.
The women's side is very structured, but we're going to be putting a lot more structure
back into our men's stuff now.
So who's got questions?
Go ahead, Hunter.
I got one.
Go ahead.
Why is the men's Monday meetings except the last day, Monday of the month?
Why not make it every Monday?
Well, how many of you are here, Hunter?
I'm not always here every Monday, but I keep making the effort to come in because I'm looking
at you.
No, I'm not saying that.
How many people are on the call right now?
Six.
Including me.
Yeah.
Okay.
So there's five men.
So we just really don't have the staff or the team to have a men's only situation every
week when this is pretty much the numbers of men that come.
So that's just, that's not cost effective for us.
And then also I want you guys to be able to go to the other things, the other things that
have women there, have opportunities to meet women and men.
We've gotten feedback from men throughout the program because a lot of our men are married
now.
You know, you guys, we have a real high success rate with the men in this program.
Most of the men that have come to this program are married and they had limited time, limited
bandwidth to be online.
Didn't really want to be online.
Didn't really enjoy coming to online gatherings.
And so having two a week, so you have your Monday men's and then there's another one,
whether it's an Ask Jackie or an Advanced Heart Work, it just doesn't make sense to
have two a week for you guys.
So the one that's you only will be the last Monday of the month.
All right.
And can I also share I had some wins?
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, I went two months without pornography and I went 15 days in a row without any master
of self gratification.
Wow.
And how old are you again, Hunter?
37.
I'm going to be 38 in over a month from now.
And do you mind if I ask if you're a virgin?
Yes.
You mind or you are?
Yeah.
No, you don't mind.
I don't mind saying I admit I am a virgin.
OK.
That's great.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's a huge win.
Broken record.
That's a huge win.
That's a huge win for you.
You've broken your own record.
I love that for you, Hunter.
And what about meeting new women, dating?
How's that going for you?
Well, I have my eye on two local women that I met on a trip to Israel.
They were on their own because they want to enjoy the autonomy.
But I know I got there.
I got to chat with them at church.
It's not the old woman, but there was there was two others.
And we got to walk and we got to talk.
And then I got their numbers.
And I think about and I think about maybe, you know what, I'm going to try.
They like I want to communicate.
I want to build intimacy.
Basically, I said, I want to hang out and build connection for the right reason.
And I figured I'll see where things go.
And I know that one is my age.
The other is cool with me, but they were going to they wanted me to go on to our church's
next trip to Israel.
I was like, no, I already went to Israel.
And I was thinking, where have you been?
And I just go up to them.
I just approached them to not in a it's like it's basically trying to me.
The only hard part is how do I approach it, how not to approach it?
I was like, oh, honest.
I did something that was an honest mistake to them.
And I was like, I was like, oh, I'm sorry, and made an honest mistake.
Rather than saying, oh, she won't like me.
That's just a honest mistake, because I was just looking at their move in awareness of
what they do, because they're undeniably a woman of God.
She is an undeniably a woman of God.
Her actions speak for herself.
So I figure, you know what, this is a.
woman I like. I like the way she is. She takes care of herself. Even some people at church
are trying to recommend me because they know me. When I was 30, I climbed a mountain that's
thousands of feet high. I can cook on my own. I can finance my own money. I'm about to move
into an apartment. I saved up and organized my finances for something like this.
Wow, Hunter. You've just really come a long way since you've been in the program. I'm
so proud of you. You definitely have matured so much. I think you're for sure ready to
be a boyfriend and to begin to date someone and grow through that kind of relationship
into a fiance and a husband. We will be spotlighting you just so you know. I know you've been asking.
We will be spotlighting you via social media and then also via our email list. We'll let
you know what that brings in as far as anyone who could be compatible with you.
Yeah. Explicit stuff that I still have access to, it's losing its appeal on me too.
Okay. Well, here's the thing about porn.
Yeah. It's losing its appeal.
Well, I'm glad that it's losing its appeal because those people are someone's son and
someone's daughter. A lot of them are trafficked people, people that have been coerced with drugs
and have been abused and caused to be almost enslaved to this industry. When you think of it
that way, it's really difficult to have any pleasure in any kind of participation in that.
Yeah.
Beyond that, I really think that pornography is an addiction that you can protect yourself from
with the right accountability, with the right constraints because it requires technology for
the most part. When I was a kid, you used to be able to go to the video store and then there
was a back room that said 18 and over. I always wondered what was back there. I poked my head in
there one day. This is like the 80s and 90s. It was all the pornography movies, right? Those days
are over for the most part. The only way you're getting porn is if you get it on the internet.
Keeping yourself, having a checks and balance, doing a situation where my kids just saw The
Odyssey over the weekend. If you know Homer's poem, Ulysses ties himself to the mast so that
he doesn't or he has himself tied to the mast so he doesn't go to the song of the sirens,
to the song to his death of the sirens, of the mermaids and the sirens. You have to tie
yourself to the mast if necessary, Hunter. Meaning if you have to have other people come
and tie you to the mast, if it means that you don't have technology in your house,
if it means that you have a dumb phone, a dumb phone, all that it does is call people and text
people. If that's what you got to do to rid yourself of this evil that wants to destroy
your mind, then do it, brother. If that's what it takes, then that's what you got to do.
Don't bring it upstairs at all where I go to bed. Also, another thing too is do some jujitsu.
Jujitsu, it tests my mind. I figure, you know what? If you want something, you got to do this.
It's just like men and women. It's one way to approach it and one way not to approach it.
I screwed up. One time I cursed in front of this one girl's good-looking,
godly woman, good-looking. I cursed her and she freaked out. I was like,
genuine apology, honest mistake. Basically, don't beat yourself up. Just learn from it.
Absolutely. There's someone out there that's going to have a lot of grace for you as you
have a lot of grace for them. Really, what I want to encourage you to do, Hunter, is that
when you do text these girls or one of these girls or you do try to get someone to perhaps
hang out, go on a date with you, you don't have to tell them your whole life story. You don't
have to tell them that you're pornography-free. You can leave that for us. You can leave that
for your coaches. You can leave that for these smaller, more intimate places of accountability.
You can just go ahead and put your best foot forward with them. Let them get a chance to know
you before you're letting them behind the curtain and telling them things that they don't really
need to know right now. I know. I already just gave them my green flags, but green flags don't
guarantee a date or a relationship. They help, but they can't guarantee it. That's true.
All right. Well, I'm proud of you, Hunter. That's great. Anyone else have a question?
Anyone been on a date?
I could talk a little bit, I guess.
Okay, Jesse. What's up?
I am chatting with this girl that I met a few weeks ago. She's really great. There's
a lot of really good things. We haven't met in person. We FaceTimed.
a couple times. We talked for like five and a half hours last Friday night. But
there were some things that she had, there were some things like when I first
met her that were, you know, as I got, she told me about like, there's some things
that like she told me about herself that she had been through or whatever that
was like, okay. We might actually meet this Friday because I'm, we're going up
to Mass to Maine on a family vacation. So I might actually meet her Friday night.
Is she long distance? Huh? Is she long distance? She's in Rhode Island. I'm in
Pennsylvania. Yeah. So she's five hours away right now. But I think, I know she
would move for the right situation, you know, but I guess here's what I'm
thinking. And I, you'll probably not like this idea, but maybe, I don't know, but I'm
thinking like, cause prior to meeting her, I had taken, I feel like the Lord had led
me to like really just press in and just connect with him for a couple months. So
I was doing that and I had this date in mind of the 5th of July. And so that came
and went. And so it was Friday, the next day on the 6th, I got on, I got back on the
one app that I'm on the Holy app. And I reached out to the girl I was talking to
when I did go, like when I did just, I told her back in April that I just felt
the Lord's calling me to do this. So I was just going to be obedient. So I reached
out to her and the girl I was talking to back in April and she didn't get back to
me till Thursday. But then I saw this girl on the app that Monday and then she
disappeared before I could write her. And then, and then she popped back up on
Thursday and we connected. Like she, she got back to me right away, which isn't
that super common for people I reach out to. I don't usually hear from anyone if I
reach out to them. Like, I don't know, I've been, that's been interesting, I
guess, that whole, the whole app thing. I mean, people reach out to you, you don't
get back to them. And I used to get back to everyone, or if they would write me,
I'll try to write them. And then it's just like, at some point, it's just like
not really worth. It just doesn't seem, I don't know. That's another question at
some point. But
well, it's hard to stay motivated with, you know, electronic dating, it's hard to
stay motivated, especially if there are no wins. So if you would have taken my
book club, you would have heard that, you know, the psychology behind dating apps
is the same psychology as slot machines. And think about putting your quarters
into a slot machine over and over again, and just not winning. Yeah, just it just
gets really, you know, like, exhausting.
Yeah, yeah. So anyhow, in some ways, here's what I'm thinking. Here's what I'm
praying about. Okay, I'll just share this with you. In some ways, like this girl I
connected with, she does seem great. Like she's fun. She, she makes me laugh. Like
she's really joyful, which I love. She's very godly. She's been through some
things like she's made some, she's had some self forced errors, like she has a
son from like a rebound relationship after her husband was cheating on her.
So that was I knew she had a son, but I didn't realize it wasn't from like her
marriage. You know, that was one thing I found out on the front, I think soon
after I met her, like she shared all that stuff. And what's her custody
situation? 100% like the guy has no. He has no custody at all. And and the only
like, way that he like she allows him to see her son. But like, it's all on her to
let it happen. So he claims she didn't claim paternity for him. I guess not. The
course didn't remove his custody. She just never she put didn't put him on the
birth certificate. So he doesn't. He doesn't have paternity rights.
Yes, but he has the son has his last name, which is super odd. Like he came to the
hospital. Interesting. Yeah. She's also Brazilian. I didn't know that either. So
that was something else. But her parents live in the state. She goes to her
parents church. Like she sings on the worship team. And how often does the does
her son's father see him? How often does she let that happen and promote that?
Like
He just allowed that like a couple, like last weekend, like a few days ago.
But before that, it probably had been a while.
Yeah.
Okay.
But anyhow, all I have to say is like in some ways I feel like I could be content just kind
of going—like I feel like the Lord really showed me a lot the last couple months.
And like one thing He's been speaking to me is like taking advantage of the season
of singleness and like really knowing Him.
And so I'm considering just like kind of going back into my little—just going back
into a season of just not pursuing anything right now and just connecting with the Lord
in a deeper way.
Well, a couple things in your situation that I just want to weigh in on is that, you know,
your wife passed away, you know, very quickly, very tragically.
And you know, when you've been married for a long time, it's really easy to try to go
back to that level of relationship because that's what you know.
That's where you feel safe.
With having children and, you know, you have a few children and, you know, just because
we feel ready to meet someone or, you know, whatever, you know, doesn't mean that the
kids are ready.
And so I think that the Lord has definitely slowed your roll in some ways, get your family
on point.
The other thing that I want to say about being married is you're not purposely leaning away
from God when you're married, but you do lean into your spouse a lot.
And so it's not that you don't know God, but you are used to being more interdependent or
even codependent on a human.
And so this is, you know, this is a time in your life where—and so I just want to help
you reframe it.
It's not a time for you to get to know Him better.
It's a time for you to trust Him more and a time for you to go back to—how old were
you when you got married before?
Twenty-four.
So you were young.
And so get to a place where, you know, as a man, you know, not only do you trust God,
but, you know, He's the Lord of your life.
He's leading.
I think that all men that are married would say that their wife has a lot of sway in their
decisions and in their lives, especially good marriages where they respect and admire their
wives, where they love them, where they're attracted to them.
You know, women have a lot of, for lack of a better word, control on their husbands and
on what their husbands do or the decisions that they make.
And it's good and refreshing for you to have a time where you have the ability to just
really follow after God with your whole heart.
And I think that's good.
Now, you're breaking some of my rules with Rhode Island, okay, because five and a half
hours, long distance, never meeting in person, especially you, Jessie, because you're kind
of a romantic and you're definitely a more feeler type of man.
And you know, I don't want you catching feelings for someone that you've never even met in
person.
And five and a half hours of, you know, sharing your whole lives, I mean, you know a lot about
this woman more than you should ever know about someone that you've never met in person.
Because you know, five and a half hours, what are we going to do?
We're going to deep dive.
And that's where emotional connection and what I want you to watch out for.
Some men have to watch out for physical connection.
I think you have to watch out for emotional connection, which, you know, obviously would
lead to physical connection at some level, but just watch out for like that emotional
bond being created.
And guys, I want to tell you guys this, because something just happened recently with one
of my guys that kind of broke my heart, and this has only happened once before in the
last six years, but he moved away from his children to marry a woman.
And so, you know, obviously that is not what we want here.
And you know, good relationship with his children and good relationship with his former
spouse, but you know, decided that it was the right, and not just a little bit moving
away like thousands of miles away.
So yeah.
So I'm not a big advocate, I'm not a big advocate at all of any co-parent isolating or alienating
a parent for a love story.
So that's why I'm asking about her baby daddy, because yeah, it may have been a bad decision
that she made, but she made it.
And now there's a child and that child has a father.
And it sounds like that father is somewhat in the picture.
And so I'm not an advocate of people separating children from their parents.
If it's abusive, sure.
Okay.
It was, it was, it was abusive, but I mean, to her, to her, yeah.
I mean, he had a restraining order, which is now lifted.
But yeah, she.
She does have complete control, but anyhow, no, it was definitely something I'm and here's how I feel
I've said this to a couple people. I feel like I opened the oven
You know on the fifth. I checked it. I checked the casserole and it wasn't quite done. That's kind of how I feel and
Potential like that's I'm I'm
Yeah, anyhow, so I
Don't know you're you're a very kind and compassionate man and what I want you to watch out for and if I was your one-on-one
Coach, I would be definitely protecting you from not just catching feelings, but catching feelings for damaged women that make bad decisions
Because you seem to be drawn to those types and
So and I was going to tell you there's a lot of women who have restraining orders against men and you guys there's a lot
Of abused women out there. Okay, so don't hear what I'm not saying
But I deal with women all the time that have restraining orders because of their own lack of boundaries and
So who knows what's really true and real because we don't know this lady
So we're not gonna judge her but we are gonna protect you from getting yourself involved in a circus
Okay, because right now you have no monkeys and you don't need any
Room
So gentlemen, if any of you have an Achilles heel where you're you're in the masculine in a place where you know
You find yourself with women who need to be rescued or women who have just a lot of problems
or a lot of history
I
Want you to take a look at that pattern?
Because the type of women that I want all of you to partner with they're not perfect women
But they're women that have done their work
They're women that yeah, they may have some mistakes in their past, but they don't have any mistakes in their recent past
Okay
They they have learned from their mistakes and like what Jesse's doing right now
They've learned to lean on the Lord. They're not looking for a man to lean on
They're not looking for Jesus with skin on it. Not right now
Jesus with skin on it. Not right now. They're not looking for a meal ticket
They're not looking for you to be their Savior at all
And I'm just gonna tell you because I coach women and I've coached women for 30 years
The women that are out there looking for saviors. They're the ones that usually find an oppressor
Hmm. Yeah
Yeah, it's just the dynamic that happens, you know, and so
So yeah
We want to be careful and men that are out there that are good men that are looking for that are
Attracted to women that are in you know
situations
That those men usually get really grossly taken advantage of and so we don't want that
Yeah, and when I when I found out about these things with her
Yeah, my first thought was like, okay. Yeah, I'm I'm
Like I wanted to just maybe just not pursue it anymore. But at the same time
You know you say it's a yes to it's a no. Yeah, and I mean I
I've actually been really impressed with with her like she was very forthright and and what you know
And what she got herself into whatever which would have been
You know two and a half like her son's
See for
Like 16 months. She's he's 16 months old. So
Yeah
He's a baby. I know
Baby
So, I mean just doing the math that's like over two years ago, you know
but
She was on her way out of that relationship and then she found out she was pregnant
Her and her husband could never get pregnant. Like she'd never got pregnant with her
Again, there's no there's no judgment towards her. There's just there's just wisdom for you. Yeah, and so
What you're describing are definitely yellow flags and yes
And there's distance. There's a distance and once again in order for you to pursue
This woman and for you know something to happen here, you know, she would have to relocate
and and to bring her child, you know away from that parental relationship and
and so
Those are just things to take in consideration
If you got to know her better first of all you guys I want to tell all of you this because this is really a
Perfect segue into this so forget about Jesse situation right now. Let's just talk about long distance for a second
Long distance. It's very difficult to get to know the real person and
We're bumping up against
2,000 success stories and last year single right now and I will tell you that at least 30% of them have been long distance
which means
You can't drive there in a day and drive back. That's what I consider long distance. You can't you know
be very difficult to drive there,
spend time and drive back home.
So Jesse's situation would be considered long distance
because that's 10 hours round trip.
And so it's difficult to get to know the real person.
And what we're finding is that these relationships
have a tendency to go a lot faster.
These relationships have a tendency
to have bad emotional boundaries
because there's a lot of time spent
just listening to each other breathe on the phone
and creating this fantasy in your mind
of what being together is gonna be like.
And then when you finally do get to be together,
it's kind of like Disneyland for three days.
You have these marathon dates and stuff.
And the problem with that is,
is that we've had way too many people
end up married to someone
that they really didn't know well enough to marry
and it's ended up being toxic.
And so I really want to not put fear in y'all,
but put wisdom in your hearts of,
hey, in order for there to ever be a long distance marriage,
like marry someone that you knew long distance,
they have to relocate during the courtship phase
and they have to do life with you in person
for an extended amount of time,
I'd say at least three to six months
before you actually marry them.
That is wisdom.
Up close and personal,
people can hide their crazy from afar,
but I promise you they cannot hide it
day in and day out, up close and personal.
They just can't.
That's good.
So Jesse, yeah, if you're rolling through town,
you want to stop and say hi.
Brazilian women are hot.
We've had several Brazilian women married in this program
and they're passionate people
and just attractive and a lot of things.
I sent her your book.
Oh, good.
Which one?
The new one?
I gave her the options
and she chose Married in 12 Months or Less.
Oh.
You're like, is that a harbinger?
It came yesterday and she's read a couple of chapters
already, I think, so.
It's a good book.
Yeah.
You guys, someone stole my new book.
Someone hacked my new book, Modern Dating Sucks.
They put it through AI.
They barely changed anything
and then they created an AI Audible on Spotify
and stole my book.
Someone stole my book, my new book.
You guys, this AI world that we're living in
is the wild, wild west.
It's insane.
So I'm trying to get Spotify to take it down right now.
It's just ridiculous.
And the author that's on the book, on my book,
on this thing, isn't even a real person.
It's not even a real name.
And it's just like, oh my God.
So anyway.
So you're saying that Jackie Jorman book I have is fake?
Jackie Jorman.
It's a corny joke, I know.
Yeah, it's probably the Timu version.
My book.
You guys be safe out there because it's wild.
It's wild out there.
Okay.
Okay, so Jesse, good update.
Thanks for your wisdom.
I hear ya.
I hear what you're saying.
And we'll be praying over that
and let us know how that works out.
Thanks.
You know Babylon B?
Yeah, I know what it is.
I just saw they posted a new one.
They said, heaven confirms the praying hands emoji
counts as an actual prayer.
Amen.
So funny.
Okay, all right.
We got a bunch of guys on here.
All you guys that came late, just so you know,
in August we're going to be integrating
into a co-ed format.
So you only have men's only like this,
like live once a month.
And then you'll have access to your men's only group
where you'll have coaches there
that can answer you in real time
because we're getting ready
for our new community-based matchmaking app
and a lot of one-on-one coaching in that
and just different things.
So we'll talk more about that in a while.
But Deanne, what do you got?
I mean, I had a pretty productive coaching session
the other day.
Okay.
My coach likes to ask me the hard questions.
They practically had her reduce to tears.
It's just been like,
It's been just a tough situation, like these guys I know I shared when I went on an actual
like day with somebody who actually is from this community and we hit it off like really
well.
Our three video conversations went good and I was like quick to make sure we got to meet
each other like live in person or like a two and a half hour drive separate from each other.
Probably been willing to drive all the way down here to get to Pennsylvania because it's
like driving to Boston basically.
But she's like, I liked her.
She's very considerate.
She's like, how about we just meet halfway in New York City?
But sure, I'll show you around.
She's never seen like Times Square, Rockefeller Center, none of that stuff.
So we had fun and she just came clean that it was like she thought that she was like
ready to do another long distance thing and apparently she was not and it was just one
of those things I'm like, please, please tell me that it was not something I said or did
that gave you the ick, that made you feel uncomfortable.
That's not what I'm about.
I'm trying to be like really considerate on that sort of aspect and I really wish she
kind of did because I don't like being told like it wasn't nothing that you did wrong.
It was her, you know what I mean?
So it was long overdue for me to have a coaching session and remember that thing I told you
about that she asked the hard questions.
So she was like, Dan, let's get to the heart of the matter.
Like you're known for being hard on yourself and I want to know where that's coming from.
So I told her like, I come from like a broken home and a dysfunctional family and it's so
dysfunctional that I have to distance myself and I still am to this day.
And it's one of those things that I spent 30 years praying for there to be healing and
breakthrough and it's still not only has it still happened like, like we are brother and
sister manipulative.
So I have to keep my distance from them.
Me and my parents don't get along.
We're getting more and more older, more and more sick.
And I'm blessed to have been going to the church that I'm attending and the Lord brought
me some community, but a lot of them just came in one, especially when they started
like getting married and having kids.
So these past like few years, actually, it's been really hard.
Like I just realized that a few months from now will be Thanksgiving and Christmas, the
loneliest time of the year.
I literally don't have anybody anywhere to go to on the holidays.
And I tell people at church, like, like, Hey, you know, in a way, basically like, please
tell me there's a spot to me to just share a meal with you guys or something like that.
And that doesn't happen.
So where, where do you live at?
In Derby, Connecticut.
I'm sorry.
Okay.
You live in Connecticut and how old are you?
25.
Okay.
And you've never been married?
No.
Not married.
No kids.
Okay.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
You, so you had a coaching session with Renee?
Not Renee.
Annette.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, that's really, you guys, that that's, that's real right there.
You know, I had to go no contact with my family too for years.
They weren't safe people and I had to.
It's hard.
It's hard to go no contact with your family.
You love your family.
You want to be in proximity to them.
It's really rough.
It's hard to hold that line.
But I was able to for, you know, sometimes years at a time.
And I just want to let you know that, you know, I had the same prayer as you and God
actually, you know, did answer that prayer.
And I was able to be in contact with my mother and my brothers and, you know, before for
about four years until she passed away.
So I had about four years of good time with her as a safer version of her before she went
to heaven.
So that was, that was good and, and still continue to have relationship with her husband
and their son, who's my, you know, who's my brother, you know, same mom, different dad.
And so, but yeah, well, we got to get you some community first and foremost, Dan, we're
going to get you some community in your area because we do have people in your area to,
you know, whoever it was that, you know, you were talking to in the community.
There's a lot more women in that area, especially, you know, Jesse.
Where was she?
Was she down?
She was down in Pennsylvania.
Yeah.
Okay.
Man, that whole northeast block is really not that far away from each other.
Is it Connecticut?
It's only two and a half hours from Pennsylvania.
You're really close to the city.
But we have lots of community in New York City.
We have lots of community in Pennsylvania and then even in Connecticut, Massachusetts,
D.C., all those areas over there.
So we gotta get you moving forward.
We gotta spotlight you.
She mentioned that also, like, a lot.
I'm like, it would be nice if there was, like, even, like, a list because, like, I go to the
events and the thing is, like, they don't have a name, but they're not always going to put the
two letters to indicate their state always.
And those that do it tend to be, like, rural south, midwest, California kind of thing.
So, I mean, I'm not doubting you.
No, for sure.
A lot of people in this area just, like, don't say, or people don't tell me who they are or
don't point me in the direction.
Like, you just got a point and I'll just, I'll strike up a conversation.
You're like, yeah, I'm friendly.
I'll start a conversation.
Yeah, and that's what the new app is going to be able to do.
So it's going to, like, you'll be able to, so you guys, this brings up, you know, some
of the new technology that we have access to with this new app.
You know, Dan is making a strong case for why it's needed, but you'll be able to build
your village on the app.
So the app will immediately show you the other users that live in proximity to you.
So it's going to show you the people that live in proximity to you because we want to
do life with other people.
You know, Dan's situation, and some of you may have the same situation, we have a lot
of women that are in Dan's situation where they just, they don't have a 2am friend.
They don't have people that they're doing life with.
Everyone's busy with their own lives, their own families, their own stuff, and single
people get left out a lot.
And, you know, this is why this is necessary.
It's necessary because God created us for relationship, not just romantic relationship,
relationship in general.
And so everyone should feel like they're surrounded by, you know, a village of people
that love them and care about them.
And so, so Dan, I am believing right now that by the holidays, you will be, you know, in
community and friendships and possibly even in, you know, a romantic relationship.
So let's get you spotlighted.
You seem tall.
Are you tall?
Not really.
I'm 5'8".
That's not tall according to most people.
Well, you, you, you carry yourself tall just so you know, but 5'8 is fine.
I, if you guys have ever heard my joke, my joke is all men are 5'8".
So that's actually, that's true with me.
I know.
Listen, all American men are either 5'8 or 5'9".
I don't care.
Fight me.
Yeah.
You'd be surprised how many people are like disappointed.
Like, Dan, why did I, why did we think you were taller?
I'm like 5'8".
For some reason right now, just you sitting there, you seem really tall.
Like we have a guy that lives up in Alberta, like Edmonton, Canada.
And he's, he's really, his name is Dave and he's like 6'5".
And you, you remind me of him.
And when he's on camera, you guys, he sits exactly the same way as you.
So, but listen, 5'8 is plenty tall.
My husband's 5'8".
Now, would you date a taller girl?
A girl that's taller than you?
Because I'm taller than my husband.
I would.
I mean, I, I would.
Let's see where it goes.
As long as, even if it's an Amazon, I'll see if I can make it work.
An Amazon.
Oh, the girl that I'm trying to talk to in church, she's actually, she's actually tall
and isn't too tall for me if she's in high heels.
Okay.
Well, there you got it.
That's all right.
But the good news for you guys is the majority of women, I think average height for women
is still like 5'3", 5'4".
The majority of women are very short, so you'll be fine.
Actually, I just thought of someone incredible to introduce you to, Dan.
All right.
I need to, I need to, I'll message you offline and on Messenger and, and give you some feedback.
She's in Pennsylvania and she's incredible.
Can you do that for all of us, Jackie?
Yes, I want to do that for all of you, but I can't do that for you, David, and you know why.
Why not?
Because you got to work on some other things first.
You got to get a job.
I didn't.
Even though you're going to be on here, by the way, um, can you reopen the
community part of the, the app?
Because I really wanted to read all the comments and I didn't
know you were going to disable that.
Yeah.
Well, the book club is over.
Those book clubs are over.
So the community portion of the book clubs ended.
I know, but I really wanted to read all that.
I mean, I paid a hundred dollars for this.
I felt like, I feel like I didn't get.
Well, you have access to your course material and your
replays for the next 60 days.
The community aspect cannot be monitored forever.
You guys had five weeks to have community with each other.
And that's what it said in your sign.
That's what it said in your sign up.
You can't give me access for a day or something to read it.
I can't give you access to anything.
I don't control that our tech team does and, and they're
not going to turn it back on.
Wow.
Yeah.
I, uh, I really wanted to read everyone else's input on there.
Well, can I pay to be added to the current group just so I can restart it and just
read everyone's comments and posts?
And I don't think that's a good idea.
I don't think, you know, I mean, if you want me to coach you here, I will, you
know, in front of everyone, or I could just send you a private email of why,
you know, I don't think you using our community as a place to meet women is
the right fit for you in this season of your life.
So we can do that here or we can do that privately, but, um, you know, it's, it's,
it's not, it's not going to be, it's not going to be a match right now.
You, there's other things that are more important that you need to work on right
now in order to be eligible, at least in our community for any kind of matchmaking
or spotlighting or introductions.
And listen, there's a lot of men that have come in here in not the most
ideal seasons.
They've come in here with addictions.
They've come in here with financial issues and problems.
They've come in here hot off of the divorce circuit.
They've come in here with, you know, just all kinds of things that were
going on in their lives.
You know, we've had guys come in here with, you know, bad health diagnoses and
all kinds of different things.
And what all of those guys had in common is they came in here wanting to focus on
themselves, do their heart work, get themselves to a place where they feel
strong and they felt stable and they had something to offer a wife, you know, in
the season of life that you're in right now, what do you have to offer a wife?
You don't have a job, you don't have any money.
You live with your parents.
You, you know, are going through some other things that I won't mention.
I mean, there isn't a woman that is going to be attracted to that or want to partner
with that unless she herself is, you know, not really healthy.
And so we don't want to make.
You're not going to disable my access to the recordings, I mean, to the, the date
modern dating sex app.
So can I at least listen to finish listening to the replays of the sessions?
Are you going to kick me out of the last or single program?
I don't know what you're, what are you alluding to here?
David, we, we didn't, we didn't disable your access to the book club.
No, no, I don't know.
I don't know.
The book club.
No, no, I don't know what you're saying.
Components, the components that have turned off in the book club have turned off for
everyone.
It has nothing to do with you.
No.
What you said right now, are you alluding to the fact that you might kick me out of
last year's single?
I don't know what you're saying, right?
No, I'm not saying I'm going to kick you out of last year's single.
I'm trying to tell you that the men that have come into this program that have been
dealing with any kind of life controlling problems have been here for themselves and
not to meet women.
I am telling you that I do not believe that you're at a place in your life where you
need to be here to meet women.
And so if that is what you're here to do, then I will, I won't, I won't be allowing
that to happen.
No.
When I said I wanted to read the comments from the, from the book club, I wanted to
learn what other people, I wanted to read the conversation so I could.
Well, I'm not talking about that comment.
I'm talking about the comment that you made of, can you spotlight me?
Can you do that for all of us?
So I'm saying not right now, possibly later, depending on whether or not you're
willing to be here to do the work.
But the other question about the, the, the book club, I guess there's no, yeah, I
guess obviously it's my fault for not, I don't want to do this in front of all
these people on here.
Why don't you go ahead and just send us an email?
Okay.
I mean, I could, yeah.
But can I email you directly?
Like you or David, can we get on a call or talk about all this?
When you email our admins, you are emailing me directly because anything that
has to do with me or questions for me, they ask me and then I give them the
answers and then they communicate with you.
In other words, I'm sorry.
I didn't like take the time to read all the.
posts in the comments, but I was just, I've been really busy.
So I wanted to just do, you know, have another day, a week to do it.
I mean, I paid a hundred dollars for this.
I mean, once again, the community portion of the book club
has not been disabled for you.
It's been disabled for everyone.
The book club is over.
It's over.
So you have to understand we have staff that are paid to monitor and answer,
and we can't pay those people indefinitely to do those things.
That's why the book club is five weeks long and then it's over.
And then you have access to replays for another 60 days.
Okay.
So email us with any questions.
We'd be happy to answer it.
We're on your side.
We're here for you.
Once again, there isn't anyone who comes here that is willing to do the work
that we're not going to totally support and totally help and try to, you know,
get them to wherever it is that they want to go.
So that's what we're here to do, guys.
Anyone else have any questions?
I do.
Okay.
Hey, David, how are you?
I'm doing pretty good.
A lot of warfare, that's for sure.
But I guess my biggest question is like reality check.
It just seems like I keep on hitting the wall with financial stuff, but I don't
know if it's more of a, just a stretching season or if it's a thing where I'm,
it's truly like, I struggle with it to know whether it's wise to move forward
with starting to date people or not, because to be honest, I'm struggling
financially, so yeah, and the place I've lived up for the last almost 20 years,
um, time's up at the end of October.
And as of now, I have nowhere to go.
But the flip side of that is I am totally mobile.
I can pick up and start my life over, move anywhere.
So like long distance doesn't really exist in that sense for me.
It, you know, if something, you know, if something materializes.
All right.
Well, let me, let me try to, you know, without trying to dig into all your
business here in the men's group, you know, I see David's on here now.
So when I met David, uh, 20 years ago, you know, before we got married, he
moved in next door to me because he had a divorce, he had a foreclosure of his
house, he had repossession of his two cars, um, him and his former wife filed
for bankruptcy because they were living the American dream of living above their
means on credit cards and different things.
And they both had ministry salaries.
So, you know, without two salaries, especially making what they were making,
they couldn't afford to keep any of that stuff if they were going to get
divorced and, you know, take their paycheck elsewhere.
Um, so when I met him, that was the state that he was in gentlemen.
And he's not embarrassed to say it.
I'm not embarrassed to say it.
You know, he was moving into a rental, which is where I lived because
I was going through a divorce.
Um, and you know, he, he moved in, he had a, a car that he bought
with cash and you can imagine what that car looked like.
Um, he bought it from some old lady or old man that had part, you
know, hardly put any miles on it.
But what was it, babe?
Was it like a little Buick?
Like how old was it?
Like 20 years old.
Sorry.
I've muted.
It was a 94 Buick Century.
It was, uh, had portions in it.
Can you hear me?
Yeah.
94 Buick Century.
And I met him in the year 2007.
Okay.
So a 94 Buick Century, um, you know, and it was burgundy.
It was burgundy.
And it had, you know, like a couch inside, you know, how those cars
were built, like the seats for like your couch at home and your living room.
Velour seats, you know, they were actually very comfortable and cozy.
I was really actually kind of nice for a minute.
You're silly.
Okay.
So you guys, this is the state of life that he was in.
He was still working a ministry job that he had been at for over 15 years.
They were paying him.
Hardly any money at all.
He had a bankruptcy.
He had a divorce.
He had repossessions.
He had, you know, foreclosure.
So he wasn't, he wasn't, you know, at the top of his game.
And so I just want to let you guys know that it's not about, you know, you
having all of your ducks in a row.
It's not about not being in a hard time.
You know, good people go through hard seasons.
They do.
But if you know, if you're stuck in a hard season for a long period of time,
meaning that, you know, nothing's changing and, you know, you're not
trying to get out of that season.
And the thing that I was attracted to about David is, is that I knew that
the season that he was in was circumstantial and that he wouldn't stay
there, that he wasn't going to stay there, that, yeah, he was going through
kind of hell with gasoline underwear on, but he wasn't going to be staying
there for a long period of time.
time because he was, you know, driven, he had a great work ethic, you know, really great
work ethic.
And so these are the things that women are looking for.
So David, here's my advice to you is that, you know, if you're the kind of person who
is faithful and loyal to a job, doesn't matter if, you know, you're, you're having trouble.
If you lost a job, then you just go find another job until, you know, there's plenty of people
hiring out there, you know, find something to do to make money.
What a woman wants to see is that not that a man has money.
Now there are hypergamous women.
There are women out there that are, you know, for lack of better word, gold diggers or hypergamous.
They want a meal ticket.
They want the soft life.
They want a man to take care of them.
And you'll know who those women are.
And those women are not going to be attracted to any of you.
So because no offense to any of you, none of you, none of you have enough money for
those types of women.
Okay.
Just forget about those ladies.
But there are other women who they're kind of lazy.
They don't have their lives together.
They're not hypergamous.
They're not looking for a rich man, but they, they don't want to have to do anything.
They rather just let you go out and work and they just sit at home and, you know, watch
soaps and eat bonbons or whatever's on TV nowadays.
I don't know.
Um, they're not driven women.
They're not ambitious women.
They're not, um, they don't cook, they don't clean.
You guys got to watch out for those women too.
And you're going to know, you're going to know who those women are.
You know how you're going to know?
Cause they're always in trouble.
They're always in debt.
They always need money.
They're always complaining about, you know, oh, I can't pay this bill or this can't happen.
They don't seem to work, or at least they don't seem to work regularly, or they're always
complaining about their job or saying that they can't wait to quit their job.
No woman should be quitting her job just because she gets married.
Okay.
Because she didn't have a baby with you and now she's staying home to take care of the
baby.
So they can't wait to quit their job.
And they also have had a lot of jobs.
All of these are red flags.
Okay.
They're all red flags.
So David, no woman is going to turn down her nose at you.
Okay.
Yeah.
There's going to be certain women that are going to turn their nose down at you.
So I shouldn't say that, but there are plenty of women that respect a hardworking man, even
if he's struggling.
A man who just keeps getting up and going back after it, gets knocked down, but gets
up again.
That's a song.
You know, those are the qualities that you want to be developing in this season of your
life.
And if you don't know where you're going to live, there's lots of places to live.
So I don't understand your full situation.
If you just don't have the money to pay your rent, if you're living somewhere for free,
if you're living with family, I don't know your full situation, but, you know, becoming
independent, becoming stable and, you know, and just, and just being out there and showing,
you know, a woman that you're going to work hard.
You're going to continue to try until you succeed.
That's all women really want to know is that, hey, if we get in for hard times, because
most of the time you are going to get in hard times in marriage.
If you get into a hard time that you're just not going to be a quitter, that you're going
to be someone who just keeps going and trying until, until you make it happen.
That's what women want to see in men.
Okay.
Well, just to volunteer some information, I've been living at this place for a long
time with a family member.
My older brother owns the place, but the rent is way below market.
So I mean, I don't know, like I am open to any kind of interim lifestyle, but when I'm
in that, I don't think that's very attractive.
You know, if I'm living in a van somewhere, don't live in a van, don't live in a van down
by the river.
Okay.
But you know, it's not, it's not completely unattractive since you don't have any children.
If you get into a situation where you're in a house with some mates, you know, you got
some roommate, you know, some housemates, there are plenty of men that have gotten married
from a housemate situation.
So if I were you, I'd be looking for something like that.
Some guys that have an extra, you know, that have a room for rent in a house that they're
sharing.
What city do you live in?
I'm in Harleysville, Pennsylvania, or near it, real close to it.
What big city, what big city is that?
It's halfway between Philadelphia and Allentown, Bethlehem, about halfway in between.
Would you consider that an expensive area?
Yeah.
I mean, I'm in Montgomery County, which is the third most populous County and it's, it's
on the pricier side for Pennsylvania.
And what is it that you do for a living or that you have been doing?
Well, the thing is, I guess I'm in a transition now, like I've only been doing things like
DoorDash because I was so burned out and basically had with my amount of the CPT.
ESD after that situation shift that was so toxic.
That's the, that's the other thing that I'm battling on the emotional level.
So, but I understand that, you know, all the red flags I blew past and it was
kind of triangulated because a person that I, that I thought was to be
respected was not helping the situation.
They were making it worse, you know, because they had the same
wounding that was not healed.
So anyway, well, yeah.
And, and the other mistake I made is I assumed that a local leader of a
small house church had the same skills and gifting as you do, and that
was kind of naive of me to think that.
It was not saying that you're saying that this person was promoting
the relationship and it was unhealthy.
Yes.
And for me to think that they would have the same skill set as you do, it was
kind of naive of me because I mean, to have your level of gifting,
not everybody has that.
So, yeah.
Well, you guys, it is true, you know, to what David is saying, you know, it
is true that, you know, we do this.
I've been doing it for a really long time and, you know, have a lot
of wisdom around relationships.
And just because someone's your pastor, just because someone really cares about
you or loves you doesn't mean that they necessarily will understand the
dynamics of an unhealthy relationship.
So what David is saying is true.
I can't tell you how many people have come to me and said, I don't understand,
you know, how I ended up in this really toxic marriage because my pastor really
liked them or, you know, my pastor really thought we should get married and really
encouraged us to get married.
And, and because, you know, like you said, church leaders, just because
they're church leaders don't, don't make, it doesn't make them, you
know, relationship wise.
And so, so yeah, definitely, definitely be careful with that.
But it sounds, David, like you're just in a situation where, I think it'd be
really great for you to, you know, be getting in community, be getting to know
someone.
It does sound like there's some things that you need to really be focusing on
and working out and making a priority at least during the season of your life
before, you know, looking for a girlfriend.
And so, and, you know, obviously around here, dating is for mating.
So looking for a girlfriend that would become a wife.
And so, so yeah, if I were you, I would really start focusing in on that.
You guys, we'll, we'll coach you in relationships here, but we'll also coach
you, we'll also life coach you.
So if you need help getting some ideas, getting some practical application of how
you can, you know, get out of some kind of rut that you're in, get unstuck, get
moving forward, we're definitely here for you for that as well.
Okay.
Um, for sure.
So David, we gotta, we definitely have to, uh, so the two Davids here are kind of
rowing similar boats, needing to figure out some income, uh, DoorDash.
I mean, not that, not that, you know, being an independent contractor of all
these different apps and different things you can work for like Instacart and
DoorDash and Uber Eats and Uber and all that.
Not that that can't be a viable income.
Uh, you got to work at like a real job.
You can't work at like a hobby, but not that it can't be a viable income.
It just is not the kind of stability that a marriage minded
woman is looking for.
Just so you know, not that you have to have a W2 and a 401k, although that's
not bad, um, you can't be an entrepreneur, but if you are an entrepreneur, you need
to, you know, show a woman, especially at this age group, you guys, you guys
are not in your twenties, okay.
You're not just kind of up and coming and figuring it out.
You guys are old enough to know better and old enough to realize that whatever
you've been doing, isn't working.
So it's time to try something new.
Okay.
I'm saying that with as much grace as I have in my heart, because I
do have a lot of grace for you.
There's no judgment here, but I'm telling you how women are.
And the only kind of women that will be attracted to that level of instability
are women that you do not want.
You don't want them.
They're going to bring you even lower.
Well, I wanted to ask another question, but I mean, I can let other
people go if they haven't gone, but.
I don't know what time this ends.
It usually ends at eight.
Yeah.
I, yeah, my, I didn't even know you were going to be on here where it was.
Yeah.
Does anyone else have any other questions?
John, Christopher.
Uh, anybody else is here?
Blake.
I see Blake is here.
Some of you guys when you guys which which guys which ones of you guys came in from Kingdom Seekers
You see me over there with Pedro and that crew
Do any of you guys come in from that?
Did you guys come in from my Instagram you new guys, where did you how'd you get here I
I
Heard about you from a interview you did with someone on YouTube. I can't remember who it was exactly
Okay, cool. All right, great
all right, so for those of you that have completed the heart work and
You know had your discovery call. So here's how it works for all of you newbies that don't know how it works
You come in you have access to the heart work in our new app
They'll you know, you guys will have access to coaching on Mondays heart were coaching one o'clock Eastern eight o'clock Eastern go
Watch the replays whatever you want. It's every Monday, so it doesn't matter
and then when you finish those four or five weeks of heart work you will have a discovery call and
That discovery call will be with me or another member of the team where we kind of assess where you are
What's going on what's happening with you?
and then if you're in a place where we feel like we can recommend you to the community and then you are able to
Get spotlighted you're able to because you guys we're here to make relationships. We're here to make connections
And so we want everyone to do heart work. All the ladies do their heart work. We want you guys to do heart work as well
It's a very you know a very simple but supernatural protocol
So do that if you haven't done it dig into it get it done
Have your discovery call you can email us when you're done and say hey, I'm done with heart work
I'd love to have my discovery call and then when you have that discovery call we can talk about next steps for you
Okay, we have all we have everything that you could want we have here. We have dating coaching for you
We have relationship coaching for you when you get into a relationship
We have premarital coaching for you when you're ready for that. If you're online, we have online coaching
We have heart work coaching inner healing coaching. We have
You know men's only coaching so we have everything to help you to be successful in this season of your life in lots of areas
But I just want you to know Dan that I'm gonna be looking into
That the area where you are and what's happening right now so that I can get you connected because I really want to do that
And then both both David's that are kind of struggling right now. You guys are in you know, some
Unstable places in life, you know, let's let's figure out what you guys need to do to do next steps
if you haven't done heart work yet, then that's gonna be your next step and
You have access to that in your app
Jackie on your website
the dating coaching and all that all I see is Renee like three people like it seems to be paid like
We have to pay for this or does it come with our last year single subscription?
Whatever is on my website is is not part of the program
the part of the program is in your app that you already purchased and
The heart work coaching that I'm talking about is group coaching. It's not one-on-one coaching and it happens on Mondays
1 p.m. And 8 p.m. And
What I was announcing this tonight tonight and some of you weren't here yet, so you wouldn't have heard it
And I don't think you were here David
You guys will have access to that group coaching for heart work. It used to be women only but we're integrating it to
coed
Coming soon with our new app, but in the meantime, you guys can do your heart work. You have access to it David
I don't know what the men's app looks like. So how do they have access to the to the heart work materials?
Is it just in the heart work courses in the men's? Okay, so I thought how do we get access to all the coaches though?
Like is it in there?
You don't have access to coaches until the new format rolls out
But you do have access to your heart work materials. So you can go ahead and start on that because that's in your group
Yeah, I signed up for last year single. I think in October November like what I have access to coaches back then
I didn't even start it yet
Well, you have access to coaches every week on the calendar you had access to me those coaches, okay
It's group coaching. It's not one-on-one coaching. And then when I first joined on Facebook, there is that spirit made match
form or that I
don't know if that was a like
do we get put into a
We have to fill out a matchmaking form or what is that? I've still got confused about that
Okay, well spirit made match is no longer relevant because we have a community-based matchmaking app coming out this summer so
So we're no longer using that database. That was a database to answer your
question and it's no longer being utilized. But everyone who did fill out a form on there,
you guys, we're going to be rolling that over. It'll be integrated so you won't have to pull
it out again, but you might want to change, you're probably going to change your pictures
and stuff if you want to. Yeah, that data will be integrated into the new app. Does anyone have
any questions for David since he's right there? Did anyone want to ask him anything? Yeah.
I had a quick question about, not for whoever, you mentioned an interview or something after
the heart work or what'd you call it? Discovery call. Okay. I never did that. Is that something
that you just started doing? Because I did heart work last summer. No, it's something that you're
supposed to do. But like I said, the men's group has been a little bit more unstructured in the
last maybe two years. All the OGs, all the guys that were part of our original men's group,
they're all married now for the most part. There's probably two or three of them that are
still single. That was our format with them. And so we're going back to that format. As you guys
can see, there's a lot fewer guys than ladies in last year's single. And over the years, this
number of you guys has gotten smaller and smaller. So allocating anything to such a small group of
people has been really difficult. And that's why we're going to integrate it all together so that
you guys feel like you're really supported, that you have a clear path to success. And so that's
what we're doing now. All right. So Jesse, to answer your question, you can just email to get...
If anyone didn't have a discovery call, but you did complete heart work, go ahead and email us
and we'll get you a discovery call so we can get you going forward on your single spotlight.
Got it.
And Hunter, you don't have to do that because you're part of the OG guys that are not married.
And so you've already done all that. We know you. We're already going to spotlight you.
I know. Another thing too, if these two women I see in shirts, if it's not meant to be,
can you help me integrate more into this community? I don't trust those dating apps.
Yeah, Hunter. Yeah, we're helping. What I love about Hunter, you guys don't know Hunter,
but Hunter has been around for a long time. Hunter has just... He's come leaps and bounds
from where he was when he first came in, in every area. But one thing I really like about Hunter
is that while he doesn't have a lot of relationship acumen and relationship experience,
he is a loyal friend. He is a faithful, hard worker. He's had the same job for a long time.
He's just known in his community. He keeps plugging in. He keeps showing up here,
and then his church, and other places. And so he's just a rock solid guy.
He's doing the work.
No. I just want to let you know. Yeah, he's doing the work. I just want to let you guys
know that you don't have to be perfect. And a good woman is not looking for a perfect man.
She's looking for a man who is showing up and showing her that he is trustworthy and that
she can partner with him. That it's a safe place to partner. So that is where you want to become
in order to attract the right type of woman. Cool? Cool. Cool.
Okay. All right, guys.
Just email admin. Email admin at JackieDorman.com if we have not had a discovery call yet.
Jackie, the spirit mate match when I joined the Facebook group, the men's group in September,
I think it was September last year, maybe. When did y'all phase it out? I wonder if I could have
used it in the fall.
No, it hasn't been. It hasn't been used as a person-to-person dating app ever. It was a database.
It's been used as a resource.
It was a database for our matchmaking. It was a database when we used to matchmake. And so...
I think it was called the dating challenge when I first heard of you. Like the free,
the three video thing to watch. And then I got put into the Facebook group. And then I saw
everybody post, join spirit mate match. I don't know if you were posting. And I was like, what is
this? And I never really got...
Right. Well, once again, it's been... It's being... It's evolving.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's evolving. All right, guys. We're well beyond the hour. So let's
give an opportunity to close this out. Let me pray for you. And thank you for joining.
Thank you for Jackie for being on here. She's done an incredible job.
I think probably helping you guys get some clarity. She's always extremely good at doing that.
And I'm married to her. She helps me too, guys. So I really appreciate it.
I bless her father God. We just thank you for these men on here. We thank you Lord that
you have men Lord that you are connected to that they see you and know you and that they are showing up to
to improve themselves and to really take
marriage and family to take their their
Development very seriously. I thank you father God for them. I bless them. I speak life over them health wealth and prosperity
Prosperity I thank you right now Lord that you're continuing to show us guide us teach us
Change us grow us Lord. Give us space to be able to
To activate and we just give you praise for it all in Jesus name
Amen, amen
God bless you guys. Have a great evening