This is a real treat for us today.
We are here with Ben Runciman,
and we have got a few other amazing people
following on from him today.
So this is gonna be really exciting.
I'm gonna do the classic check the tech,
but Ben, why don't you just,
while I'm doing the tech check,
why don't you just tell people a little bit
about where you are right now,
and who you're married to,
and what's happening with your family?
Yeah, well, first of all,
thanks, Benji, for having me here today.
It's a real honor to be able to connect with your audience
and share some of the journey God's had us on.
Thanks, Ben.
And some of our insights that we've been
sort of getting on this journey
in terms of the cryptocurrency space,
and where the Lord has led us to invest.
Cool, Ben.
Let me preface this for a moment.
I should check the tech first,
but I'm sure it's working.
So I'll do this first.
But Ben and I grew up just down the road.
Our mums used to do woman's aglow together.
But at every stage of the journey,
I've always really, and I'm not the only one,
I was actually having a conversation
with someone in the weekend, actually,
Kahu, who's a friend of yours, was up this way.
And I've always admired how Ben
has always been a genius at what he does.
Wherever he goes, whatever he puts his mind to,
he gives you hands to, he's a genius.
And so I'm really, really excited.
And I know that there's a bunch of people
just really, really looking forward to hearing
what you've got to share and to say.
And especially those that have followed you for a while,
they will be very excited to hear,
just because they know the caliber of what you bring,
wherever you, whatever you do.
I mean, you're just so diverse in so many areas,
but it's always this huge mark of excellence.
I'm pretty pumped to get some pretty wild insights today.
Thanks Benji, that's kind.
I remember that when we first met,
when we were both organizing 24-7 prayer gatherings
once a month, or yeah, I was doing them in Waiuku
and you were doing them in Pukekohe.
And I've always just loved your passion
and how you just fling yourself at things.
And, you know, let things fall where they may.
And yeah, bro, I just really appreciate you.
So thank you, it's an honor to be here.
What do you want me to, where do you want me to start?
Just-
Well, how about you pray?
And it looks like we're all tech here is just about sorted.
So tell us, well, I'll just need one moment longer.
Tell us about your family for a second,
where you're based and then we'll pray
and then we'll launch right into it.
Yeah, cool.
Yes, so we're based in the Bay of Plenty,
Tauranga, currently living at the Mount.
We got back from Cambodia last year
and we just felt to move here to the Mount.
And we just had a fourth child, Rebecca.
And we have, so our eldest is 10,
Emmanuel, Kezia is seven, Phoebe is four,
and now we've got Rebecca.
Yeah, so my wife and I,
we've been in the Bay for 12 years now.
Nice.
And prior to that, I studied at Bethel
School of Supernatural Ministry for three years.
And prior to that, we were in Waiuku,
close to where you were.
Yeah.
So yeah.
Nice.
Cool, man.
Hey, well, let's let you loose.
Why don't you pray for us?
And then we're gonna be all ears
and just excited to hear everything
that you're about to share.
Yeah, Father, we just thank you for this moment in history,
for this moment in time,
and that you are leading and guiding us,
and you are showing us a way forward.
And Lord, I just pray for the same spirit
that you put on Joseph in the time when he was,
him and Pharaoh, and Pharaoh was deciphering his dreams.
Lord, I just pray for a release of that spirit of wisdom
and revelation to know what to do in this time,
to amass wealth and to open options for your people
moving forward in this time.
I just pray this in your name, Lord.
And we just, yeah, we just keep our hearts in expecting
and open and curious about what you may show us today.
Amen.
Now, there's one more thing that you guys
should definitely know about Ben and I,
and that is that our lives run really parallel
in funny ways.
We got married not too far apart.
Had our first babies not too far apart.
He had a son, I had a son,
and then Ben had a daughter,
then we had a daughter,
and then Ben had a daughter,
and we had a daughter,
and now they've just had-
You bought a house, we bought a house.
Yeah, totally.
It's just so funny.
It's to the point that when Alana and I got pregnant
by a little bit of a surprise earlier this year,
we were like, whoa, we're pregnant.
Well, that's a great surprise.
We've been talking about it.
And one of the first questions we had was like,
I wonder if Ben and Jess are pregnant.
Yeah.
And sure enough, they were.
So, pretty funny.
Yeah, yeah, it's hilarious.
Oh man.
And you guys are looking at buying a farm.
We're looking at buying a farm, sort of.
All of that.
Yeah, who knows what other similarities
are gonna emerge.
I believe.
Cool, man.
Well, let's launch in.
Really excited to hear
just what you've been discovering
in this whole area of financial systems
and crypto and everything else that's been going on.
Well, you know, back in 2017,
I started having these.
I had a dream.
And, you know, I'm not a big dreamer.
So when I have a dream like this,
it kind of takes me by,
takes my attention and I end up thinking about it heaps.
And in this dream,
I was in the Bank of America
and I was standing in line.
I'd been in the States before.
So I knew what it was like to stand in line
at Bank of America.
And as I was standing there,
this guy walks in behind with a gun in his holster,
not pointing at anyone.
And he walks straight past the line
up to the front counter.
All of the bank tellers see him
and start screaming with glee like little cheerleaders.
And they turn around and they grab all these wads of cash
and they start throwing it over the counter.
And the wads of cash fall to the ground,
but they jump over the counter
and they pick him up in their arms
and they start pushing him up in the air
and chanting Bitcoin for president, Bitcoin for mayor.
They go outside and everybody has sort of just followed
them outside at this point.
And I sort of, in the dream,
I went up into the heavens overlooking this whole scene
and there were sirens and the police were coming
and the police, as the police arrived,
everybody just ran and dispersed into the forest,
which was surrounding this Bank of America building.
And I observed as the police came
and chased these people down.
And in every situation, there was an interaction.
I was expecting people to be handcuffed
and taken to prison, but in every situation,
there was this interaction where the person paid
the police officer in Bitcoin and then they were let go.
And then their dream ended.
And so that was sort of something initially
that I was just like, what does this mean?
And is this just like a pizza dream
from eating pizza the previous night,
or is this you, God?
And I got a sense that the Lord was showing me something.
Anyway, in the, now looking at that dream,
I can see that it was really significant
because, as an example, China has banned Bitcoin once,
but they've also banned it six other times since that once.
So I was like, okay,
right? Usually China bans something and they don't have to ban it again.
And, you know, obviously in the media you'll hear that Bitcoin is the domain of terrorists
and drug traffickers and, you know, you know, whatever else. But
I'd like to propose that Bitcoin is truly free money and it can't be controlled by
the government. And, you know, where the spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom, right? And so,
you know, my observation is through the dream is that also there is this element of, you know,
banks obviously don't like Bitcoin, although a lot of banks like JP Morgan and
Citibank are taking positions now on Bitcoin and are offering or, you know, custody services and
things like this, which is really interesting. Not a lot of people know, but also the
the, yeah, the US granted the right for all banks in the US to custody Bitcoin for their
clients. So we're about to see a whole lot of sort of Bitcoin related services be rolled out to
people in the US who have bank accounts, because it will be an easier way for them to purchase it.
But, you know, the stream sort of got me thinking about all of this and, yeah,
I'll just pause that there. So after this, I had, you know, just to share a personal story,
personal story, I had this, I think it was 2019, early 2019. I went to Thailand to
be a part of a gathering with a whole lot of underground church leaders. And
during this trip, I felt the Lord just whisper to me, Ben, I want you to sell your house and
sell all the things you had. And so he actually just said, I want you to sell everything.
I say, okay. And it was just that small whisper. And I could have totally missed it. But in my,
you know, knowing the Lord, I know when he speaks something that's really important,
he'll often whisper it to me. Because he will. I just think it's kind of him because it's,
you know, it's a big, it's a big ask what he's asking me to do. And so
I brought that back to Jess. I said, Hey, babe, I feel like the Lord's asking us to sell everything.
Just like, okay, you know, and it just, it took a little bit of just sharing with her, like,
perhaps a few weeks later, hey, I still feeling, I'm still feeling like you're saying,
like, we're to sell everything. What do you think? And then a few weeks later, the same thing.
And eventually she asked him and heard, yes, I do. And so she came back to me and was like,
yes, I think, I think that's right, like, we're to do that. And I'm like, oh, no.
There's one thing you, I mean, you already know about me, but rest of the audience doesn't. But
I love, I love design and I love collecting, you know, designer furniture and things like that.
And so I had amassed, you know, quite a nice collection and it was, it was hard to say goodbye
about 10 years of collecting. Anyway, I put them all up on Trade Me, you know,
most of them for $1 reserves. And that night, our daughter Kezia had a visitation with Jesus
and an angel. And she got baptized in fire that night. And in the morning, when I went into her
room, I saw this massive feather sitting on the ground, you know, that
long. And I picked it up and it was like, this doesn't seem like a feather from Earth, you know.
And I said, Kezia, like, this is an angel feather. Like, did you ever, did you see an angel last
night? And she's like, yeah, the angel is with Jesus. I was like, okay, tell me more. She's like,
angel took the feather out of its crown and gave it to me. And anyway, I pulled all, you know,
just, you know, interrogating her. And yeah, there's that whole, there's a whole story there.
But it was what, what impacted me was, was that where I had sort of let go of this, you know,
10 years of collecting, that exact night, the Lord, like, encounters my daughter in a profound
way. And what I found is that whenever you're going on somewhere where you've never been before
and taking steps that are risky, the Lord will just, you know, encourage you along the way.
And that was a huge encouragement for me. And so after that, man, I was all guns blazing, like,
sell this, sell that, you know, and we sold everything. And we sold our house. And so
December 14th, literally seven years to the day since we took possession of the house,
we had sold our house. And then we went to Cambodia. After that, we got there
two weeks before lockdown in New Zealand. And we spent eight months there, working
two days a week with a group called Daughters of Cambodia that helped women get out of the sex
industry. It was just, and, you know, being a part of the community there that,
of house churches and discipleship, and it was just such a rich time for us as a family.
But what had happened is that we had all this money, right, from the sale of our house and
sale of all our things. And we just felt the Lord's, and I wanted to invest it into
cryptocurrency. I mean, I've been gotten quite involved in, you know, we'd made some
smaller investments in 2017, during what's called a bull market, where things are rising rapidly.
And, and the Lord had been speaking to me about some of these cryptocurrencies,
one in particular. And I just wanted to invest that as soon as we sold our house,
and I could see things were rising up pretty quickly. And, but we just felt like the Lord
just said no. And so Jess had a date of March 23. And what happened was that we ended up putting
all our money into US dollars. You know, we prayed about that, and we felt really good about that.
And so we put it all into US dollars. We waited till March 23. Well, and if you remember what
happened in 2020, March 20, 2016, for that sort of week leading up to the 21st, the 23rd,
the 23rd, the markets just tanked. And there's so much fear in the markets. And, and so literally,
we, we ended up buying the dip in the crypto markets in a big way with, you know, everything
we had. And it, and the Lord had given me a specific price of a crypto asset that we were
to buy. And on that exact day, the 23rd, it reached that exact price point.
Wow. And we, we bought in at that price point. And,
and so it was just like another sign that we were on the right path, and that we're doing the right
thing. And, and so we still hold that, that asset we bought. But it's, it's up a lot.
I think it's about 20 times what it was worth then. Wow, that's massive. Yeah,
we could do the calculations. But it's,
And, and so, you know, during this journey, though, like, and
what I'd like to share with people listening is, is that
there seems to be a shift, like a state change of money around
the world right now. Not a lot. It's not very mainstream, not a
lot of people understand financial markets, or, you know,
the system of money that we have currently. But I believe that
this is perhaps the biggest trade that you can make, and
perhaps of your lifetime, right now. And the reason being is
that governments are in debt, and there's no way for them to
pay back their debts by, you know, with through taxes, we
just don't have the demographics, I mean, people are
having less and less children, right? Now, if, if people were
to start having four or five children per family, then
perhaps things could be different, because, you know,
all of those individuals, they'll need to buy, you know,
beds and bedspreads, and, you know, houses. And in order for
that to happen, there has to be a whole lot of productivity. And
so you could see global GDP growing, like, you know, an
exponential curve. And then, and so if that was the case, then
you would, then the taxes from that, you know, wealth
generation could cover the expenses of the government, and,
you know, through, you know, taxes and things like that. But
because we've actually we're having, you know, people having
less and less children, and, and in technology is massively
deflationary, meaning that, you know, different companies
competing with each other, pushing to make their, the way
that they create those goods and services more and more efficient,
and cheaper and cheaper. And so, you know, technology in itself
is very deflationary. And so you're not, yeah, what, what the
trap that central banks around the world, you know, the big
problem that they have is, is that there's, there's really no
way for them to pay back their government debts, unless the
currency, their currencies devalue. Yeah, right. And the
way, and so they, they're trapped. Also, at the same time,
you've got record low interest rates. What we saw in 2019, in
September of 2019, is that the Federal Reserve in the in the US
had been trying to raise rates. And they raised rates, interest
rates. And this is the interest rate that primary dealer banks
charge each other for bank reserves, and and equates to the
amount of profit that banks can make from holding government
bonds. And, and that filters down to the consumer market, as
you know, interest on deposits at the bank. But they've been
trying to raise rates, and then everything blew up in September
of 2019. And, and what happened was that the interest rate
overnight in the repo market, I'm getting into the weeds a bit
and very few people will understand this, but there's a,
there's a market that exists between the big banks. And they
have an interest rate overnight for lending to each other. And
there's very few banks, you know, in this market, it's just
the big guys. But what happened was that the interest rate
overnight spiked from 2%, which is normal, up to 10%. Wow. And
signaling that something was very, very wrong with the global financial plumbing.
And I had my eyes on this only because I'd been having these dreams around the banking system.
And I'd had another dream where I was with Jesus and we had taken all of our
funds out of the traditional banking system. That has now happened, right?
And I was just really interested because this dream that the Lord had given me sort of
told me that there was going to be a run on the banks and that
deposits at banks was going to be withdrawn by the people. And I was wondering like how
or why would this need to happen? And at that time rates were rising. But then as soon as
this happened, obviously they had to bring the rates down because they'd broken the system at,
I think, 3.75%. So to put that in perspective, historically over like 5,000 years, interest
rates have fluctuated typically between five and 7% per annum for deposits. And the reason for that
is that investors need to have a return for the risk that they take when they lend you their money.
And so my belief is that anything below that historical average of say 5%
is really a mispricing of risk. And so we have been in an environment where risk is being
mispriced for a very long time now. And I mean, we're really seeing the effects of that.
One of those effects is house prices. I mean, look around, who can afford to buy a house
right now unless you already own one? I mean, that is an unintended consequence
of low interest rates below 5%, which is below the historical average, you know.
So when you misprice risk, things tend to just break. And so what does that all mean for us?
Well, there seems to be an opportunity right now to, if you have savings, to put them into
assets that cannot be printed. Because what governments are being forced to do right now is,
we've had this coronavirus pandemic that has just swept the world. And what it's done is it's
meant that people have had to be locked down. They're no longer producing. And at the same time,
the government are giving money away for free without any good or service being produced.
And that is causing inflation, the price of goods and services that we buy, like coffee or,
you know, houses or cars, to just go through the roof. Computers. Because you have money that is
artificially being fed into the economy at the same time as people are being locked down.
As factories are shutting down or supply lines aren't able to get the goods that have been
produced to the countries that want to buy them. So currently, I think inflation is at a 30-year
high, like right now, today. Wow. Right? And the thing that sort of is intriguing is, I don't know
if you're aware of this, but the IMF, the International Monetary Fund, I think, yeah,
they've said, you know, in the future, you will own nothing, but you'll be happy.
Right? And so you have to think, like, how does this happen? And I'd like to say that how this
happens is by, like, you have a job, you may earn, you know, 50 to 100k a year. But if the goods
that you buy, you know, you're free,
food, your rent, if all of the things that you consume, your petrol, you know, vehicles,
keeps going up in value, then those things are taking a bigger and bigger percentage
of your total income. And so if that keeps happening, then you will
have to keep, you'll eventually have to sell your car and rent a car or take public transport,
you know, like you'll have to keep on selling your assets just to survive.
And so this is how they confiscate everything from you and you'll own nothing,
you'll rent everything, but apparently you'll be happy with that. I want to say is that
there is another option. And that is to own things which outpace the inflation
of goods and services and all the things you buy on a day to day basis. And so that would look
like, you know, I'm not a financial advisor. The things I've chosen to do with our, you know,
purchasing power or our money is being, you know, to many look very, very risky.
But I believe that the Lord will lead each one of you as you move forward. And although
you'll probably have a lot of people saying, you know, that's really risky. Look at how,
you know, the volatility of these assets, like they could go to zero. Yeah. And, you know,
that is, there is always a possibility of that. Let me chuck this in here. I mean,
this is something that, you know, we only discovered a few years ago, but we discovered
that legally we don't actually own our money when it's in the bank. It's actually no longer our
property. We were like, what? What do you mean? That's not our property. You know? And I say,
I think in terms of what you were saying before about risk, the price of risk being misplaced,
people don't get this that you think, oh, my money is in the bank. It's safe. It's actually
the moment your money is in the bank legally, it's no longer your money.
That's right. That's right. They changed that. Yeah. Because in 2008, when the global financial
crisis happened and the federal government had to bail out the big banks in the US,
what happened was banks around the world, they changed their fine print
and so that your deposit at the bank is now an investment into that company. And so you're
essentially like a holder of, you're not a shareholder, but you have a stake in that
business entity. And so if that business entity goes bust, they don't have to pay you anything.
They can liquidate your savings accounts to cover their own failings. And then,
and in New Zealand, I think, well, people go, oh, but we're insured by, you know,
the Reserve Bank of New Zealand. And you're not wrong, but you're only insured for $500.
So anything over $500, and, you know, I might be wrong, they may have changed this, but this was
the case last year. Anything above $500, you could potentially just lose. And yeah, not a good
look. And what you're talking about now is just right on point in terms of the conversation that
we're having, you know, this week is where so many people are in a stuck place, you know, it's just
like, what are we going to do? You know, like, even, I mean, just brilliant people as well,
tens of, we, in New Zealand alone, which is not a big country, we lost over 10,000 businesses in
just August. You know, that's just in one month lose over 10,000 businesses, that is huge. And
that's probably not even the biggest month of business loss, you know, like September, October,
November are probably going to be way bigger in terms of the amount of business shutting down,
especially with the fact that this in the last 10 days or so, we've probably lost over 10,000
jobs, you know, like we lost. Yeah, crazy. I mean, we probably lost close to 5000 people just.
health sector alone, from the public health sector, not counting the private health sector.
And so it's just like huge amount of income loss. And so when you're talking about inflation
chasing us down, you know, you're just like, oh, flip, you know, like everything's costing more.
We're in this space where everything's costing us more, the income streams that people have
relied on are dropping away. And it's like, ah, and it's kind of in this space that I just want
to bring up, you know, in this week, this verse that Solomon brought out in Ecclesiastes 11.2,
where he said, invest in seven, you know, invest in seven ventures, or even eight,
because you never know what disaster will come upon the land. And this is what you I just love
what you're sharing is because, you know, you could have a reactive response in this moment,
or a proactive response. And the reactive response is going to be like, ah, and it's
going to not be a very creative response. It's going to be like survival mode, just like you
said, you know, a diminishing return, sell everything and kind of not make smart moves.
This is a reactive response that goes flip this time to turn on the genius switch,
and flip the script on a system that's rigged to see me fail. And I'm actually gonna and that's
what I love about you, like what a crazy move. Some people might say, oh, that's crazy. But then
you're like, yeah, it's terrible move. I'm just so disappointed that you know, I got to increase
the value of my cash by 20 times. You know, like, I was just so disappointed in this. Yeah,
yeah. So disappointing. So yeah, I just love that. I love just the train of thought of being a
react, not being a reactive person, seeing crisis situation, but being proactive. So yeah,
I mean, carry on. Well, well, perhaps it'd be helpful, then, if I just sort of set out why I
think cryptocurrency is a great investment right now. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so my thinking around it,
and you know, obviously, everyone has to make their own decision. But what we're seeing right
now is, you know, and this we're not we first bought into crypto, like, none of this, one of
the big things that are happening right now we're having, right, so you didn't have like big S&P 500
companies like Tesla owning Bitcoin on their balance sheet. I mean, didn't they just drop a
billion dollars on Bitcoin? Was that a while ago? Yeah, they did. I think they put $1.2 billion
of the balance sheet into Bitcoin. I think that was around the $30,000 mark. So, you know, they're
almost 100% up on that trade. Or at least they were last week. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, crazy.
Yeah, he made over a billion dollars in his sleep for doing nothing.
Yeah. So, yeah, and there's MicroStrategy, another company that's listed on the NASDAQ
that owns over $4 billion worth of Bitcoin right now. So, you know, this is this is really
interesting. This is like a change in, you know, I couldn't have imagined that big companies would
take a position in Bitcoin, you know, three years ago, or that countries like El Salvador have now
made it public, you know, public tender for goods and services. So every business in El
Salvador has to be able to offer the, you know, Bitcoin as a means of payment for goods and
services. Yeah. They also gave every legal adult in their country $30 worth of Bitcoin,
which would probably now be worth about $50.
Yeah. Which is great for them, because their national currency has been experiencing
hyperinflation. And so for their people, you know, this has been a brilliant move for them,
because they have been able to offer financial stability through Bitcoin to their people.
And they also create as a country, they're, you know, buying it onto their and owning it on their
balance sheet, the central bank, Bitcoin. And they are creating, using a volcano to produce power,
you know, through steam turbines to then mine Bitcoin. It's a whole other story. But that's
really interesting. And I think that there will be more small countries that will
take this route, just because of wanting to give stability to their people. So
so so that's interesting you know obviously it's interesting that big companies would own it on
their balance sheet and the reason that you know tesla or microstrategy bought bitcoin and put it
on their balance sheet is because these companies own a lot of um deposits at banks you know in the
billions of dollars you know at least microstrategy had 500 million dollars in their treasury just
sitting there in the bank and at the rate at which the u.s were printing dollars to give
stimulus checks or do this infrastructure bill or this infrastructure bill to try and bolster
the economy the what these companies saw was flip our our funds just sitting at the bank
they're not earning us any interest right because the bank won't give us any because they can't
because you know the price of bonds is just so low and and so it's basically like a
melting ice cube and with inflation as inflation picks up through the circulation of all of this
funny money into people's accounts and they're just spending them on tvs and whatever that
we effectively have an ice cube that's melting faster and faster and faster
on in our treasury and so what can we do to protect ourselves and the current purchasing
power of that money against inflation and so they decided to buy bitcoin you know which has
obviously been a great move and yeah so you know and when when microstrategy first bought
500 million dollars worth of bitcoin around the ten thousand dollar mark they
i think their shares were trading just over a hundred dollars per share and today it's just
under eight hundred dollars per share wow so you know they're not just driving like
profit for you know just say you know looking after their balance sheet but now people are
taking a position in microstrategy as a company because they can see that microstrategy is very
is really onto it that that they have protected their treasury for their shareholders they also
have a forward-looking ceo who's prepared to make big big decisions in real uncertain times
and people who are wanting to you know have their purchasing power stored somewhere
are going but microstrategy shares could be a really good option and also it's
when you own a share of microstrategy you know that it's backed by bitcoin yeah and for people
who have maybe 401k or retirement funds in the us they can actually buy microstrategy
shares with that and effectively take a bet on bitcoin long term for their retirement
so this is another interesting thing and this is another
reason why i think now is a great time to buy bitcoin or or ethereum
um but the us has just approved a um an etf for bitcoin and it's a futures contract etf
but there there are other etfs in the pipeline which are will be physical custody of bitcoin
etfs and an etf is just a it stands for equity trading fund and
they're just an investment vehicle for people to take a position in a different in an asset so
there's like oil etfs or gold miner etfs and they just track the value of those assets
um and so if it was a gold mining etf it would have a basket of gold miners all around the
shares of gold miners all around the world so you can just buy the etf and you're buying like
you know 100 different gold mining companies and so it's just a a way that you can take a
um a position on a a part of the economy
for those who are investing in etfs so this is interesting because
soon as, you know, I think there's about 23 of these in the pipeline to be approved.
But as soon as these get approved, what it will mean is that retirement funds,
which have trillions of dollars under management, will now have an investment vehicle to take a
position in Bitcoin. And, you know, currently, I think the market cap of Bitcoin is just over
$2 trillion, or maybe that's maybe less. But, you know, there's potentially like $10 trillion
that could be coming for Bitcoin. Yeah. And, yeah, especially because of, you know,
obviously inflation picking up. And also, people who are investing for their retirement, they're
not often taking short term bets. They see it as a long term bet. And what better long term bet
than to take at least a 10% position in Bitcoin. And, yeah, so I think that right now is a great
time to buy, because the potential is that you can front run hedge funds and these retirement
funds before they even have the, you know, a really good tool to take a position for the client.
So basically, what you're saying is with these, you know, with these new things that are about to
get approved, once they're approved, there's like, it's unlocking trillions of dollars.
There's a wall of money coming. Yeah. And that when that unlocks those trillions of dollars,
that will have their eye on Bitcoin and other things, that's just going to cause a massive
price spike, again, on Bitcoin. Now, there's another side of things that's on the other side
of the globe that's worth, you know, having maybe a moment, we've got about 10 minutes left.
China is doing dynamic things in the space of currencies. So what are you seeing in the space
of China that's also like, kind of creating a perfect storm in a sense? Yeah, yeah, very good
question. So right now, China has a beta program with about 100 million of their, you know, their
people in a number of cities. Just a casual 100 million. In China, you can just grab 100 million
people here and there. Yeah. And it's been successful. And they're going to roll this
program, this central bank digital currency out to the entire country in February. It's
earmarked to go live. So, I mean, what that means for the Chinese people is that
now the Central Bank of China is able to disintermediate the banking system of China
and provide currency direct to their personal accounts, right? As before, you had the banking,
Chinese banking system in between, you know, the reserve,
the People's Bank of China and the people. You have this other system there. But now,
there will be a vehicle for that to be completed. Yeah. And also, they could connect
these accounts to the social credit system, giving them more control over their people.
So you imagine, so something that would be now feasible is, say, you jaywalk across
a street in the center of, you know, some city. Yeah. Exactly. You could be fined
immediately. Or say your phone showed, you know, the CCP, that you were in the proximity of a group
of people that they didn't like. Then they could freeze your account, right? Just because of your
associations with, potential associations with anti-vaxxers or whatever.
us or people in the house church you know yeah exactly church movements only yeah and um and so
you know vaccine passports are obviously a gateway drug into this sort of a system
and i believe that that's why we're seeing the massive push for um vaccine passports and
you know vaccine mandates around the world is because if you can connect you know this
seemingly benign thing of oh yeah just showing that you have a vaccine
to now the banking system or central bank digital currency then you have people um
yeah you have a system of control i mean i've got a i've got a friend here in town
and he did some things that the local council didn't like yeah they weren't illegal it was
actually um told on a district council has got a terrible reputation for being very very corrupt
and he wasn't even doing illegal things but they didn't like what he was doing and he was
challenging them in court and winning yeah anyway long story short is they took all his money out
of his bank i'm not sure if it was specifically the council but because of what he was doing
and he was winning they took all his money out of his accounts wow yeah and i don't realize how
vulnerable we are the government can freeze your assets take your money you don't even legally own
it and you know it could be as simple as you you associate with a group of people that they don't
appreciate that doesn't maybe tie the party line or whatever it is and you know or just a local guy
like my friend down the road here he wasn't even doing he was doing things legally they just didn't
like it because they were actually exposing their corruption and they took all his money out of his
accounts and he said he was like hey what are you doing and they're like we're just doing this because
we can wow that's crazy yeah wow that's yeah i mean that's the world we're in right i mean we
just don't realize that until it happens and i've heard of other stories of that and it may be the
same guy i said yeah but that's really scary right so especially when um you know um
the way i mean i'm aware that there's a ton of things that i believe that this current
you know government doesn't like you know and so i'll be definitely on the red flag category
you know like yeah you're trying to make it illegal to preach the gospel in new zealand
you know they're blatantly passing hate speech laws which aren't designed to like be kind to
people they're blatantly designed to shut down the gospel so when you're a person like myself who
you know i'm like mate um my personal convictions are there's all you know like i would rather get
shot in the face or put in jail and take the vaccine i'd rather get shot in the face and put
in jail and stop preaching jesus i mean like i've got all these things that for me i'm like
you know like uh yeah i'm like flip save all the babies you know like don't kill any of them and
they're like no it's not a big deal and i'm like nah so like for me unless this major red flag
the government yeah and so you know anyone who starts to have a value um and even christian
values even conservative christian values are going to start finding themselves on hit lists
or not necessarily hit lists but red flag lists where we're actually very vulnerable
in the current structures yeah exactly i mean i put an oral submission for the conversion therapy
bill like two weeks ago yeah and so i'll definitely be my social credit score will be going down for
sure um but yeah like this is this is exactly it is that you know in in if if things keep going
the way that they had been going for the last 24 months then
and that's a very different world than the one we live in right now
yeah let me just ask this this cryptocurrency in that equation does cryptocurrency offer any
other level of security compared to our current banking system you know is there a difference
between if you were trading if you used cryptocurrencies you know if you transitioned a
bunch of your money through to crypto maybe you keep some so you can still operate in the system
but yeah but you know like is there a benefit like what's the difference oh there's massive benefit
for in terms of they can't be confiscated so you know if the government wanted to take
my cryptocurrency they'd have to ask me
and I'd have to be okay with it and let them give it to them. Yeah and they couldn't, there's no way,
they'd have to break then in order to get access and so that puts the power back in the people's
hands and I think that's really good when you have a government that's meant to serve the people
but that has stopped serving the people. Then the people can take back their, at least their
financial power back from a governmental, you know, government-led controlled system
and then, you know, and how's the government going to run if they no longer control the finance of
the population? Well they could no longer fund the government programs unless the people wanted
those programs funded and I think that cryptocurrency has the capacity with the
right level of adoption to, and especially if currencies like the New Zealand dollar starts to
inflate and then hyperinflate to the point where the only real means of exchange are
cryptocurrencies which have self-custody, then you effectively could have a situation where
the government can no longer pay the police that they're using to enforce their control.
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Obviously that's long term. In a, you know, in a Christian context
we're quite good at working with volunteers, but the difference is that our whole, you know,
our whole value system works around love and relationship. I think this is where my dream
comes back again right, because in the dream, right, you have the bank tellers that jump over
the counter. They're working for a bank but they get excited on a personal level about Bitcoin
and so they leave their position at bank and serving the bank and the capacity of, you know,
you know, serving customers in order to celebrate Bitcoin. Cool, cool. Hey, Trevor's just jumping
in here now. Hang on there for a second. Don't disappear. This is exciting to have Trevor
jumping in from Australia. Hey, Trevor, how you doing? Great, great. Hey, I'm going to let Ben
carry on for a second. I'm going to slide sideways for about 45 seconds and I'll be back here. But
Trevor, meet Ben. Ben, meet Trevor, and I'll be back in about 45 seconds.
Okay, hi, I'm Ben, how are you? Hey, good, thank you. You just want to carry on just with any
closing thoughts would be awesome. Yeah, sure, yeah. So, just in closing, yeah, there's the
situation, you know, Trevor, we've just been speaking about cryptocurrency and how this,
and the point I'm making is just how this could unfold in a way that could then restore democracy
and some of the things we've been covering is how the bank, current banking system,
if you have a deposit at the bank, that that is, it's not yours, but it's an investment position
in the bank and how that puts you at risk with the current, you know, monetary system
as it is. And, yeah, so I had this dream and I shared this earlier, but in the dream,
Bitcoin came into this bank and the bank tellers left their position and started pushing Bitcoin
up on their hands and celebrating that Bitcoin had arrived. And then I zoomed out and saw
the police come to get the people who had owned the Bitcoin. But then as these interactions
happened privately, where these police had captured these people who owned Bitcoin,
these people ended up just paying the police in Bitcoin and then leaving and the police were
leaving them. And so what this sort of shows to me is I believe that the Lord was showing me that
because Bitcoin can't be confiscated by governments, so there's really very little
political risk because they have no power to take over the world.
it from you unless you just freely give it to them. That ultimately, although there may be a
time where it's illegal like it is right now in China, yet people still use it and now China's
banned it seven times I think now, that ultimately people, even if they work for the government or
they work for a bank, they're there working for the government, working for the bank in their
self-interest. They are receiving a paycheck in New Zealand dollars or US dollars and as we see
nations devalue their currencies because they have no other option, because they can't raise
rates without destroying the monetary system. So what do they have to do? They have to print
money and ultimately to pay off, just to keep things rolling, to keep things functioning.
The money that police or people working at the bank are receiving, if their incomes aren't
outpacing the inflation that's all around them, which we know is going to happen because there's
really no other option or at least no other political will for austerity and to raise rates.
So people are going to be put into a survival state and those who own real assets, finite
assets like Bitcoin, only 21 million Bitcoin will ever come into circulation, it puts you in a place
of financial sovereignty over your financial future and it puts you into a place where you can
help others as things fall apart monetarily. So yeah, that's my position.
Awesome man, well Trevor, fantastic to have you with us and thanks for everyone who's been
joining us. I know that everyone's been delighted to hear from you Ben, it's been really
exciting. Yeah, thanks for having me. Love your thoughts, love your insight, love the depth
that you research and study, everything's been amazing. One thing that was just a casual
thing that I don't know many people will have noticed or picked up on what you talked about,
when you talk about Ecuador, you mentioned that the government of Ecuador is using a volcano
to create power and using that power to mine Bitcoin, which is kind of a good transition for
Trevor because one of the things that we're going to be talking about with Trevor is this whole
concept of the fact that you can actually mine, you can mine cryptocurrencies. So this will be
a bit of a jump for some people but I'm really excited to hear what you're going to share
Trevor and Ben, thanks so much. Yeah, thanks for having us.
And for those who are following us, you'll hear more about the School of Kingdom Business
coming forward and we're going to be on a regular basis, Seb or myself will be interviewing people
that are doing great things and creative things and inspiring things in the world of Kingdom
Business. We'll be interviewing people on at least a monthly basis. So Ben, we'll have to
get you back and go deeper. It'll be a pleasure to come back. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, cool. Thanks
again, Ben. Love your heaps. Awesome. So, so blessed to have you with us. Cheers, man. We'll
catch you soon. We've got to hang out. Welcome. For those that don't know Trevor, this is Trevor
Chatham and joining us from Australia and it's a real delight to have you with us, Trevor. And one
of the things that we're going to touch on in chatting with Trevor is mining cryptocurrencies.
So for those who are tracking with us in the 7Streams challenge, this has been pretty fun. So
we talked about two income streams yesterday. We introduced the concept of affiliate marketing.
And so we talked about raising royalty. We talked about clear phones. Ben's just talked about
this whole dynamic of getting into cryptocurrency. And I mean, that has such wide ramifications
in terms of all the political, financial, economic
dynamics that I want to talk about.
say they're not just unfolding right now but they seem to be exploding in a sense you know they're
like blowing up whether it's the good the bad or the ugly and so one of the things that you'll
realize you know is that bitcoin the value of cryptocurrencies are in generally not always and
there's a bit of a dip this week on cryptocurrency but in generally they're trending upwards quite
significantly you know if you look at where they were a few years ago when i first bought bitcoin
it was about twenty thousand dollars new zealand now it's around you know eighty thousand and that
and that's in the dip you know i think it was close to a hundred thousand new zealand
a couple of weeks ago so um there's just an interesting space but you know when you say
even twenty thousand dollars for a single bitcoin was expensive now when you buy crypto you don't
have to buy a whole coin right you can just buy tiny increments so you can buy twenty dollars
worth or whatever but um that's pretty expensive so are there other this is one of the reasons why
it's fun what we're going to be talking what um to trevor is because there's other ways to increase
your stake in the crypto in cryptocurrencies it's other ways to increase the um the
amount of of cryptocurrency that you have other than just buying it outright and one of those
is mining so we're going to talk about that soon but first of all we're just going to connect with
trevor here a little bit of a story and then we'll jump back to that so trevor how you doing today
i'm doing great mate i've been so excited to do this i uh watched your session yesterday
watched the replay and i jumped onto a little bit of being earlier on my phone and uh but i was
so excited with what you guys are doing you let me to go through and watch your whole session
yesterday and to be reaching out and helping people set up multiple streams of income
right and uh you know kingdom based start with the prayer i mean it just resonated right it was
just that gives it right so i've been so excited i mean even since we had a chat the other night but
yeah um and and for those who are you know tracking with us why don't you drop in the
comments whether you're in a space it doesn't really matter where you're at you might just be
curious as to what's happening or you might be keen to set up a couple of income streams or you
might be like stuff but i'm going to take up this ridiculous challenge of setting up seven streams
of income in 72 hours now it is actually possible to do that and the reason that we said we're going
to do we're running a seven streams challenge and giving people the opportunity to set up
seven streams of income in 72 hours is basically just to kind of like flick a creative switch in
your brain um and that the reason we've got all these speakers and everyone jumping in is to
actually show you hey these these are options they're possibles they're working and it's a
wide range of things so um it's fun so drop in the comments whether you're just curious or whether
you're like i'd like to go for a couple of income streams or if you're in the space you're like nah
stuff it i'm going to go crazy and i'm going to go and um go after setting up seven streams in 72
hours i think i've set up i'm i will have set up um four new income streams in the last week you
know by the end of this week i will have done at least four new income streams um and i'm doing
that on a regular basis setting up new income streams so it's fun but trevor um let's hear a
little bit of your story where you're from and uh and how'd you get to where you are now
yeah it'll be absolute pleasure benji and looking at what you were doing yes i thought okay um
probably one of the things i can do and contribute is the fact that my journey right because i was a
veterinarian trained as a veterinarian live animal practice cows and horses my dad was a veterinarian
my grandfather was a vet but i realized at university that live animal practice was only a
temporary occupation i mean what i could see was that the guys that were hitting 60 they weren't
fit and healthy and so even by final year at university i'm saying 10 years as a live
animal veterinarian is long enough uh five year course and i'm saying 10 years is long enough
they said what do you mean this is the other students i said well look around us guys
and this is important look around you yeah that people that are doing what you're doing but they've
been doing it for a lot longer decades longer and if that's where you want to end up great
but when i looked around in particular with my dad i could see it was not a pretty sight
health-wise they all love their science but it was just knocking them around
and i didn't realize at the time why but uh that's why i was always open to other opportunities
yeah so i see your whole thing here you know setting up multiple income streams
well for the first couple years i just made a passion for the veterinarian and we put in some
new programs within that but then i got into farm consultancy work and doing cash flow budgets
and spreadsheets
and writing computer programming.
And, you know, so that were, you know,
two additional streams of income.
And then I set up a yacht charter company
up on the Whitsundays.
You know, Australia Beer Boat Charters.
We started off with two trailer sailors that we had, right?
I mean, they never were legal,
but, you know, that got us going,
and, you know, it was tiny steps.
And all these things we set up were just tiny steps.
Yeah.
Right, and with that yacht charter company,
I mean, in the end, by the time I got out of it,
what, eight or nine years later,
we had 23 yachts in the fleet.
Wow.
Yeah, huge organization, right?
And so, but it was all tiny steps.
And it was after I'd been at a vet conference in Sydney,
where I'd been, you know, promoting my computer programs,
so I'd written for vets and all this sort of stuff.
And all the stuff that I was doing for cash flow.
And I went down to the boat show to, you know,
stand on our stand down there for the weekend.
I got talking to a young lady
who talked to me about network marketing,
and that your network should talk to a husband.
Well, in the end, he wouldn't talk to me.
He wouldn't tell me anything about it there and then.
And he said, I've got to show you the full story.
But, you know, a couple of days later,
I caught up with him and he laid out
network marketing opportunity, right?
In fact, I mean, it was the biggest company
that's ever been in network.
I'll just pause you on this because this is,
this goes back to something that we were talking about
yesterday with Seb, is that you've got options here
in terms of generating income streams,
and you've got more options than most people realize.
Because we've got, you can trade time for money,
and that's the one that we're most used to, right?
So that's you trading time for money.
That's you as a vet, right?
You're just trading time for money.
And then your yacht business, right?
You invest some capital to create some yachts,
to create a business.
And so when you're starting a business,
you're generally trading cash for money,
but obviously a little bit of time in there as well
if you're running a business.
But what you're talking about now is the third,
the third format that we were talking about
is influence for money.
And this is one of the big things
that people don't realize right now,
especially with, but companies are realizing this
more than ever before.
So you've got an explosion right now in companies
all around the world,
offering the opportunity for people to be affiliates,
which is just basically network marketing.
And we talked about this,
just simple things like phones,
there's phones, there's foods,
nearly any industry, if you look,
and actually, especially online,
I think it's a crazy statistic
that nearly 80% of online sales,
somewhere in there, there's an affiliate getting a cut.
And exactly what you're talking about here,
network marketing,
if you want to understand network marketing,
basically companies are willing to pay you for influence.
And it doesn't matter how much influence you have,
they will pay you for it.
So even if you think, I don't have much influence,
you've got to understand that you don't just have to
trade time for money,
you don't just have to do money for money,
or like make money work for you.
Your influence is an asset
and you have to be really conscious of that in this world
or you are leaving potentially huge amounts of money
or of possible income streams that could be working
for you.
So back to you, Trev,
you discovered network marketing,
what happened when you realized
you could trade influence for money?
Well, it wasn't just the influence, right?
I didn't see that at the time.
What I was shown was a system
whereby I could duplicate my time.
You're dead right, as a veterinarian,
I was limited to how much money I could make.
Right, and that depended on a whole heap of other things.
What sort of season the farmers were having,
the price of the livestock, et cetera.
Right, in the yacht charter company,
I mean, we could go out and set that up
and this is what really hit me
when they hit with these pandemics and the lockdowns.
But at one stage, where the yacht charter company,
I think we had about seven yachts in the fleet at the time,
and all of a sudden there's an airline strike.
Well, I want you to understand,
they couldn't fly to Queensland to do the yacht charter.
So all of a sudden I had $80,000 worth of bills
I couldn't pay one month.
Just bills, and I'm driving along
and all of a sudden I realised,
I'm thinking which of the drugs in the back of my truck
would be best to use to knock myself off.
Yeah.
You know, I'm only 30 at the time.
And I promise you, you gotta be positive outlook
to have done what I've done.
You gotta even go and set it up.
And just the fact that I was even thinking that way.
And this is what really hit me
when I started these blockdowns last year.
I'm feeling for all these business guys
that are putting absolutely everything into it.
Everything.
We had local business owners killing themselves
right off the bat in the first lockdown.
And one of the crazy things in New Zealand
is the government's actually...
suppress the suicide statistics.
Oh yeah, I mean,
because it's just a guy just down the road,
just, you know, a couple of weeks ago.
I mean, it's happening everywhere, it's crazy.
So this dynamic of what we're talking about,
seven streams of income, like this can save lives.
Oh, there's no doubt about it.
What you guys are doing is phenomenal.
You, I mean, this is why I just resonated so much
because you're trying to help these people.
I've been there, I know what it's like.
When you're out there running a business
and all of a sudden the circumstances
beyond your control and they're saying you can't operate.
Or in my case, I just couldn't get in.
It wasn't like this, but you know, I'm thinking,
and it makes no sense from a scientific point of view.
Anyway, we won't even go there.
But what happened is, you know,
I'd been in the yacht charter company, I was in that.
And then I got introduced to this other way.
And what I saw initially from networking
was the fact that an extra thousand dollars a month
coming into my household budget would be very handy.
That's the reason I got in.
I didn't see the big picture.
And I got in for a thousand dollars a month.
But what happened is I plugged into a teaching
and training system, because I promise you,
with networking, I could teach anybody the how-tos.
But it's a mind game.
You got to change your thinking, totally.
And what I'm so excited about you guys
is the fact that you've got systems in place
to train people, teach people.
Change their thinking.
You've got to change your thinking.
It's completely different.
I can teach anybody how to come up with a list,
contact people, share the information, follow up.
Not a problem.
But they've got to change their thinking.
Yeah.
And that's repetition, right?
And this is what it's all about.
You know, Romans 12.2,
be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind.
Come on.
That's it.
And, you know, and I was lucky enough
to get an absolutely brilliant training program
set up by a guy by the name of Dexter Yeager years ago,
that he's recognized it's the best.
He's recognized the grandfather of networking.
And so what happened?
I get into this and I realized,
this is a matter of teaching people
to teach people to teach.
This is actually a personal development program
that I'm in.
I've nothing to do with the products.
Sure, we've got our products out there.
We make our money by shifting them.
But if we help people change and grow and develop,
they'll shift the product.
Come on.
Right?
So that's what I've been doing for 35 years.
Right?
I mean, within that six months,
I could see what was happening.
I only had a small group.
I was only making a couple hundred dollars a month
at the time.
But that's when I gave my vet practice
to an ex-partner for the cost of the drugs on the shelf.
Right?
I felt that's the end of it.
I'm out of here.
This is what I'm meant to be doing.
At that stage, I was a new Christian.
I could see that, you know,
through the network we were going out
and it was relationship evangelism.
That's what we were doing.
I prayed coming home one night from meetings
when I'm still running my vet practice.
Lord, if it's in your will,
if you can help me build a network,
then I can go to work for you.
Because that's going to take care
of all the financial hazards.
Come on.
Then I can go full time.
And that's what happened.
The next day,
I get this bright idea to change the presentation,
to put it all in a little booklet.
For 20 years,
I stood there and read that booklet.
Because I had people coming in,
we'd hand it all out and I'd let them know.
If you're seeing this for the first time,
that's great.
You see it for the second time,
it's always going to be clear a second time around.
But what I'm doing here tonight
is I'm teaching people to teach people to teach.
Right?
And as you might have alluded
to go through this presentation
and then I would read it.
But what happened as a result of that,
we ended up,
even though I got into this company
14 years after it started here in Australia,
we ended up being the fastest one
to hit this top level ever in Australia.
In fact,
on this whole Yager system that I was part of,
fastest ones in that.
But I honestly believe it was due to that prayer
and the Lord answering that
and showing me how to put it into a booklet.
Come on.
Right?
And that's what happened.
And so,
you know,
we ended up the second highest income earner
in that company.
Even though we didn't start
till 14 years after it started.
That's what happened.
It was an incredible life.
Incredible life.
I mean,
to put it in perspective,
I mean,
I was looking at,
you know,
watching yesterday,
you're talking about residual income.
Well, I tested that out.
I got in in 1985,
sold my bet practice,
walked out of it 31st of January,
1986.
But in 1994,
I pulled my kids out of school for 12 months.
By that stage,
we were living up here in Sunshine Coast,
where I am at the moment.
And I had a 40 foot catamaran built
the year before.
We pulled the kids out of school for 12 months.
We lived on the boat for six months,
but then I couldn't convince you
to live on the boat for 12.
but we did a whole heap of overseas travel.
We went to Egypt, Israel, Jordan, Zimbabwe,
Rhine River cruise, Mediterranean cruise,
Hawaii trip, right through the UK,
end up with a six week four wheel drive trip
around Australia.
I mean, I just like the kids
just did a correspondence course.
But when we ended that year,
we also spent time working with the architects
to plan out a huge great home.
I mean, it was $2.5 million back then,
it sold recently for 6.7 million.
But that was after taking a year out,
that was built the following year.
So when you talk about building these things,
starting off small, building, you know,
using leverage, systems, end up with residual income,
I know that's possible.
So, I mean, this is really dynamic just to hear,
you know, like for people,
because I think that,
especially if a person's just had a big shock,
a big trauma,
then one of the things that does is it shuts down hope,
but also shuts down creative thinking.
And this is one thing that I just wanna like help people see
is that your influence has value.
And actually, if you can learn the power of influence,
you know, it could have six figure,
seven figure residual income power.
Is that, I mean, that's what you've experienced, right?
The seven figure.
There's no doubt about that, right?
I mean, we pay tax on 700,000 money.
That's after all the experiences, right?
Yeah.
But what's so exciting
is you don't have to have that much influence
if you've got systems.
And what I see with you is you've got the systems, right?
And then from our chat the other night,
you're improving them all the time.
And it's the system.
See, in that first game I was in,
I only sponsored 19 people.
You gotta understand these figures.
I only enrolled 19 in four years.
Well, I ended up with over 30,000 people in my team.
I had over 7,000 fronting up at functions.
You're an Australian.
Wow.
But it was teaching people to teach people to teach.
Come on.
You with me?
I mean, what we were taught
and what I still teach today is you introduce 20
to find your half a dozen that really wanna key in
and go and build an organisation.
Come on.
And that's where you're focusing.
We've just got Anna.
We've got Anna jumping in right now,
but you carry on.
Anna, hello.
Good to see you.
Hi, great to be here.
How are you?
Really cool.
We're with Trevor.
I don't think you guys have met, but-
Hi Trevor.
Hi Anna.
You're both Australian.
So, I mean, in Oz, we're about,
you guys can just say, introduce yourselves
and let each other know where you are geographically.
Yeah, well, I'm just north of Coffs Harbour, Trevor,
in New South Wales at Sapphire Beach.
Do you know that spot?
Oh, not exactly, but I'm driving past there tomorrow.
Oh, thank God.
Pop in for a cuppa.
That's awesome.
Whereabouts are you driving from?
I'm actually lined up to catch up
with Robin Cosford tomorrow.
So, interestingly, for anyone who doesn't know
Robin Cosford, Robin Cosford is actually
Dr. Robin Cosford, and she's the lady
who is leading the School of Divine Health.
So, she's not too far from you.
So, anyway, Trevor, we'll jump back to Trevor and Anna.
We're going to have Anna share very shortly.
So, you guys are going to just,
this is a smorgasbord of delights today.
So, Trevor, you've just been talking about
the power of network marketing,
but what I want to kind of come into a close with
is like one of the opportunities that we've talked about
and income stream that we've talked about,
I mean, I've just been talking with Ben
about the whole dynamics of the financial system,
the value of cryptocurrency and financial sovereignty
and everything that's unfolding right now.
We've talked about, and these are three things
that we're talking about over these three days
to help people generate multiple income streams
is you've got the option of trading time for money.
You've got the option of making money make money,
but you've also got the option
of trading influence for money,
which is something that people don't realize.
And so, we've been talking about crypto,
but one of the things that you're stepping into
is this whole space of crypto mining.
Well, you see, what it is,
it's a customer acquisition program.
Yeah.
Right, so what these guys that do the crypto mining,
they're actually doing the crypto mining.
So, I mean, that's good for you and me
because I don't know anything about crypto mining, right?
And you probably don't know anything
about crypto mining either.
No.
But this is the power of the world
that we live in right now.
And this is what we want people to wake up
to the fact that you can now trade influence for money
because nearly-
every company in the world, if you sit down with them,
if you've got enough influence, they'll do a deal with you
and they'll make you an affiliate of some sort.
That's exactly what's happening here.
These guys want 30 million customers, 30 million.
At the moment, they've only got half a million of us.
But they are paying us the likes of which
I've never seen income before from any other network.
And I've been in the top three income earners
in three different companies here in Australia
over the last 35 years.
So that's where I'm coming from.
Yeah.
And when I first got shown this back in April,
it was just a one half hour video that I watched.
And to be honest with you,
I probably wasn't in the looking zone at the time.
I did watch it because it was a good friend from way back.
But it went clean over my head, I missed it.
Luckily, I got shown by an ex-pastor.
He contacted me again in June.
I've been in a business relationship with him
for the last nine years, so I respected him.
And again, I watched a half hour video.
I didn't even realise I'd already seen it back in April.
But I remember thinking, if these guys,
these multi-billionaires that are in this blockchain field,
and they've been out there mining all this Bitcoin
and all these other coins,
if it's for real, then I can see this could work.
But after just watching one half hour video,
I'm going to bed that night and I'm thinking,
oh, well, I'll just wish him luck.
Because I know I'm meant to be focused on what I'm doing.
I've been doing that for over 10 years.
We've been successful.
And the next day, I got a Zoom call
with a guy in the US I hadn't spoken to for 10 years.
We're having a catch up.
And in the end, he's talking about the fact
that he was able to retire three years ago
due to all the investments he's made.
And talking about all that,
and then part of an investment think tank.
And then one of the guys had brought to the table
this programme last year,
which is the Customer Acquisition Programme.
And I realised as soon as he said it,
man, this is what I saw last night.
So I'm thinking there, and in my world,
I'm thinking, Lord, you got my attention.
And I can visualise myself,
this is what I'm talking to on the Zoom,
I can visualise myself sitting on the roof of this house
in a flood, the flood water's coming,
I've just waved goodbye to the speedboat.
So I know, look, don't worry, the Lord's going to save me.
And now I see this helicopter coming
with a rope hanging down the ladder.
And I spent 20 minutes asking him questions.
He sent me, he said, I can send you a video,
but more importantly,
I'll send you the due diligence documents.
Now, I've been in the network for 35 years,
and I've been in a number of different networks,
but I never heard of anything about due diligence documents.
I said, what do you mean?
He said, well, actually, I got all these independent links,
so that you can see that these guys behind it are real,
that they are working with Monash University in Australia,
right, they are working with CSIRO.
And they got all of this sort of stuff, right?
He said, if you'd like, I can send it over to you.
And he did.
And I promise you, I watched the video,
and it's exactly the same video I'd seen the night before,
but I watched it much more closely second time around.
I paused it and got screenshots of every slide that they had,
put that into my own PowerPoint,
because that's how I learned better.
I got to take time, right?
It's the most incredible thing I've ever seen.
Because then as a networker, I'm thinking,
man, imagine having a network where you've got zero attrition,
no one falls out.
Everybody that gets in,
they're making a reward straight away, first day.
They're all doing well, right?
And in the end, I'm looking at this,
saying, well, these guys want to put 30 million people together.
I build community.
We've just got Asher jumping in here as well.
So...
Hi, Benji.
Hey, hey.
So I'm going to introduce Asher
and Anna a little bit.
Asher, this is Trevor.
Hi, Asher.
Nice to meet you.
And we're just coming in for a close at the moment,
but it's been a smorgasbord this morning.
But Trevor, just carry on there with your close,
and then I'm going to send people some more later.
What I've suggested,
what we've got is a customer acquisition program
where it's minimal expense to get in, really.
And you don't have to have any ongoing monthly costs.
And all these things from a networking point of view,
this is magic.
And everybody's going to win.
And what I've seen,
and this is what some of the guys that were uplining,
guys that I knew, as it turned out,
they're saying they've got people involved
with this program that are now making good money,
that have been in networking for decades, literally,
but have never been successful before.
Love the industry, love the community,
love all the benefits,
but they've never made money before.
And now they are.
And so what's happened for me,
I'm now spending 95% of my time doing this.
Still got the other network on the go.
Right?
Because it's significant income.
We're going to look after that.
For sure.
And that's kind of what we're talking about.
week anyway as multiple streams of income. That's perfect, right? And that's exactly what I'm doing,
right? And this is a perfect fit for anybody because it's not in conflict with anybody else.
It's perfect. So anyway, it's been an absolute pleasure. Fantastic, Trevor. Well, like I said,
we have the School of Kingdom Business where we're going to be doing more interviews,
we're going to be going deeper with people. We can't wait to have you back and go deeper on some
of this. And if you're not on the email list, then I will put... Actually, if you're not on
the email list, just go to RaisingRoyalty.com and drop your name and email on that page,
RaisingRoyalty.com, and then you'll be on the email list and then you'll get all the information
that I'm sending out and all the links and handouts from speakers and everything. So
just go to RaisingRoyalty.com, drop your email address in there, you'll be on the email list and
you'll get everything. And Trevor, just a taster really from you today, but I'm so thankful to have
you here. And I know that as everyone gets to know you more, they're going to love you more.
And I'm just looking forward to sharing a long-term journey together as well, just in this
whole space of everything that's unfolding because we're in a whole brand new world right now. So
thanks, Trevor. A pleasure. Okay. Thanks, guys. Awesome. And yeah, so everyone say thanks to
Trevor and yeah, appreciate it so much. Fleshy, my man. Thank you so much for being with us.
Hey, hey, Asher and Anna. Everyone, please drop in the comments there a little hello to Asher
and Anna. This is a real treat for us to have Asher and Anna with us. Now, Asher and Anna,
have you guys got some type of relationship that everyone should know about?
Between us or with you? Yeah, like you guys got something going on there. What's
happening in your relationship? A little spark. A little spark? Yes. We're married. We're a married
couple. We've been married for 13 years. We have a beautiful son, Kiva, and we live on the east
coast of New South Wales, just north of Coffs Harbour in a little place called Sapphire Beach.
And yeah, we've just been down to the beach this morning, taking our beautiful little girl,
our fur baby Shadi out for a walk. In between lots of rain, we've been getting lots of rainfall in
the region. So we had like this moment of sunshine and clear skies that we got out there. And
we've done that and taken our boy to school. And yeah, we've been doing some pretty cool
things this morning, speaking to some awesome humans and doing what we do, doing what we love.
That is fun. So cool for everyone to know. There is just a little something going on there
for you guys, which is awesome. And I just want to say to everyone, I connected with Anna probably
just over a year ago. Actually, it was just over a year ago. The first time we met, it was fantastic.
We were in Sydney. And actually, I got, I had to leave that conference early because it was right
when, it was at that conference that the government announced to New Zealanders either get home now,
or you might not be allowed home. And I was kind of like, I'm not sure if I, oh, I'm like, yeah,
I think I'll take the next flight. So we were on the Gold Coast. Yeah, sorry, Gold Coast,
not Sydney. We were on Gold Coast. I actually did know that. I did know that, but my Australian
geography could still do a lot, do a lot of improvement. I bet your Australian geography
is a lot better than my Kiwi geography, bro. I reckon it's fine. Classic. So, but I just want to
let, for those who don't know, which is probably a lot of you guys won't know Anna and Asha,
these guys are just so amazing. And their hearts are amazing. And it's just been, it's just, you
know, like you have those people that you connect with and it's like, wow. And at that conference,
I connected with Anna, it was just like, wow, this is amazing. And there's thousands of people there,
but you're kind of like, man, I hope I see Anna, because I just love what she's carrying. You can
tell there's like, there's just this beautiful connection happening, and it's like, oh man,
I'm excited to go deeper in this relationship. And we have, and it's been a real honor and
delight each time. And so I just want you guys to know that you're meeting some very, very special
people today who've, who are a real blessing in my life, but not just my life. I mean, thousands
of people are getting pretty blessed by them, but it's just, you know, when you meet top quality
people and you're like, man, I want to hold on to these guys for life.
So this is this is who you're meeting today as we kind of connect in.
So thanks for being here today, guys.
And just to kind of just to kind of give you context,
this is this is kind of funny, you know, like I haven't really done this before,
but it's just basically a back to back smorgasbord with people.
We just had an hour or so with Ben Runciman, who is a genius
in the crypto space, sold his house, dumped everything in it,
saw a 20 fold return within months.
And interestingly, like here's Ben's story.
God told his wife the date that they needed to invest.
Right. They sold the house they had and sold all their other stuff.
They held on to, you know,
they sold collections that they'd been collecting for a decade.
They sold all sorts of things.
God just said, sell everything.
God gave his wife the date that they were supposed to invest into crypto.
And God gave him the amount, like the price point.
That they were supposed to invest.
It was March the 23rd last year.
And on March the 23rd, it hit the price point.
They went all in.
And then so far since then, they've seen a 20 fold return.
But the cool thing about Ben is that he really contextualized this
with a lot of the major geopolitical financial issues.
And it's big stuff that's happening in the world right now.
And people's bank accounts and people's financial sovereignty
and people's assets are all in a place where they've been under.
They're now under more
jeopardy, I could say, you know, than ever before.
The risk of mainstream is now higher than ever before.
And so for for most of us, you go flip.
Well, what do you do then?
And so it's really cool connecting with Ben, connecting with Trevor just then,
who's Trevor's a great guy.
He's done so many amazing things and so many businesses
that he's done that have flourished and thrived.
And so it's exciting.
We've been talking about, you know, that you've had this opportunity
to trade time for money or you had the opportunity to make money,
make money for you, or you have the opportunity to
trade influence for money.
But what's cool about Trevor and what's cool about what you guys are going to share
is you can hit a whole new level of synergy when you can actually fuse them.
So let's just hand it over to you guys.
And you guys can kind of just play it however you want to play it.
Share with us what you're doing, what's happening, why are you so excited?
And just, yeah, take it away.
Yeah. Thank you so much, Benji.
Such a beautiful intro as well.
And I think everything is comes down to people, relationships,
energy, connection and love, right?
It's it's that's that's what we're really here for.
So I just feel honored to be here with you in your space,
in your community, with Asha, my beloved.
And just to be here in this moment is more than enough.
And I also believe that our very existence
as humans here, breathing, living, experiencing
this massive transformation is more than enough.
We are more than enough.
And I feel like I feel like if we really understood that,
we would jump off that hamster wheel in a moment
because we wouldn't need to prove that we are enough through our jobs,
our accomplishments, our labels, how much money we earn.
We would just know that we were more than enough.
Our very existence is more than enough to deserve
all of the abundance that the divine God has to give.
And when I had that identity shift as a coach, I'm a women's empowerment coach.
That's my passion.
I've come from a yoga teaching background, you know, healing.
And, you know, really, I've always been in the in the personal development,
inspiring others and drawing the best out of others
to live their best life industry.
And so finding myself having this conversation is amazing.
But it's also very unusual because we're going to be talking about prosperity.
But actually, when we understand it at the essence, it's the same thing.
Prosperity, financial sovereignty
is a catalyst to us living our best life.
My passion is that this needs to be simple.
This needs to be delivered in a way that doesn't overwhelm or burn us out.
It feels aligned.
It just says yes in every cell of our beingness.
And if we can have that happen and prosperity flows
with ease and with grace, it just doesn't get better than that.
And that's what happened when I came across CFX.
I didn't understand all of it, and I didn't need to.
I could just feel into the essence.
And as Trevor actually laid down some beautiful foundations,
their due diligence is such a big part of this understanding.
understanding the background of a project and being aligned with the intention of why
that project was created.
And that's why Asher and I are here, because we believe that CashFX, which is what we're
going to be talking about today, is a God-given, it is actually a divinely inspired and God-given
project that is humanitarian by its nature.
I just want to pause and just chuck something fun into the mix, and you guys can chuck some
thoughts around this too, but what's your Jewish connection?
What's the Jewish story for you guys?
Okay, we'll just throw that in.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally, totally, because it's connected with one of the reasons why
we just really sparked in our first connection.
That is so, so true, because you immediately, your heart just opened so wide when I shared
about my Jewish identity and how important that is in our lives.
So both Asher and I come from the Jewish lineage.
Myself, I'm an Ashkenazi Jew, so I come from the Eastern European line, and Asher's a Sephardi
Jew, he comes from the Middle Eastern line, and we actually met at school.
When we were at primary school, I moved, because I was telling you, Benji, I moved from New
Zealand because I'm a Russian Jewish refugee, and our family was actually absorbed in Wellington
when I was one and a half, I was about two when I arrived in Wellington, and was absorbed
into this Jewish community, and was raised in Wellington, and through business ventures
of my father, we ended up immigrating to Sydney, which is where I met Asher in that
small Jewish, well, not small, it's actually quite a big Jewish community in Sydney, and
so we've, Asher and I have been friends, or kind of circling around each other for decades
before we finally got together.
We were older, we were 33 when we finally got together, I was living in Dublin and Asher
was living in London, but the thing that really brought us back together, obviously,
was our Jewish roots, and that we were really at home with each other, and, you know, understood
who we were, and our, you know, the importance of that spirit in our lives, and so we've
since moved from Sydney, the bubble, to the Coffs Harbour region, and we've created a
lot of ritual in our lives for our family, especially for our son and for ourselves,
that really just connect us to who we are, God, spirit, and give us, like, this beautiful,
I don't know, like, a feeling in our lives of meaning and purpose that is so much more
than, you know, just all the small stuff.
I wanted to bring that back, because yesterday, like, we actually kind of, like, we started
everything off, and one of the things that started my whole journey into discovering
investing and actually breaking out of poverty was discovering a story about the five jars,
and I'm not sure if you guys use this concept or not, but a lot of Jewish people that I,
you know, do teach this concept, and so I just want to run this past you and see if
you guys can use some of this at all, but the five jars concept that I've seen that
a lot of Jewish people will teach their kids is invest, you know, like, 10% of your income,
your jar number one, 10% goes to tithes, 10% goes to offering, 10% to saving,
20% to investing, and then live off 50%. Like, have you guys heard that before?
I've heard of that before, but it's really interesting. Both Asher and I don't come from
families that really have taught us well how to manage our money, and it's really interesting,
because we've been surrounded by families that are really, really prosperous, really wealthy,
and have been for generations, and both Asher and I have had to learn this in a way for ourselves,
so although I've heard the concept, we now implement a lot of what you've just shared,
and it's such a magical concept, and there are things that we're doing and plan to do
with the abundance that's flowing in that's in alignment with that, so I love that concept,
but we've probably, like many people on the call, are learning how to be financially literate and
empowered ourselves, so that we can then pass that on in a really empowered, healthy, holistic way
to our children, but I do love it. Good. Awesome. Good one.
Cool, guys. Hey, well, back to you. Carry on. I won't interrupt too much more, but I just wanted
to bring us back to that, because it changed my life forever, and for us to be able to be here
now together and just be so...
And this concept, I'm excited for how this can actually start
chain reactions for other people.
So you go for it.
It's such a dream.
It's like, you know, everything now is about collaboration.
And I know we talk about network marketing
and Trevor's really set the scene for this conversation.
There is no other way that I would possibly go
without this collaborative model
because the true power is in the people and in leverage.
And as you were saying,
why work when you can make your money work for you?
If you know that you are more than enough,
then having enough prosperity
that you no longer need to be on that hamster wheel,
trading time for money or trading your soul
for something that's not truly fully aligned with you
is just a non-negotiable.
So when we found CFX,
we found the humanitarian vehicle that was a legacy,
legacy company, the one that will be here in 20 years from now.
And that's what's important to be with visionaries
that have a plan.
And although Ash is sitting in front of
one of those fake backgrounds,
the truth is that's actually an image
from our corporate offices in Panama City
where we own a 10,000 square foot office space
on the ninth floor of the Royal Bank of Scotland building.
These guys that we've partnered with
have a massive vision, very, very deep roots.
And we're just at the beginning
of one of the most exciting journeys in an industry
that I never thought I'd be passionate about,
but we're gonna talk about today, which is Forex.
And the Forex market,
the global foreign exchange market
is a piece of the puzzle of what brings us here today,
making sure that we are not only sustainable,
but that we don't leave anybody behind.
So much like what we've been sharing today,
and Benji, it sounds like you're on about,
is no longer do we need to leave people behind
in a network marketing model.
Every single person is going to flourish.
But what's different about Forex
is it dwarfs all the other money markets in the world.
When I say dwarfs,
I mean, every other money market
pales into insignificance compared to Forex.
It's a $5.3 trillion a day,
market that's nearly $6,000 billion a day.
It is a recession.
It's known to be a recession-proof market
because money is made on the ups and downs
of the currencies being traded against each other.
And Asha probably can do a better job of explaining it,
but I'm a very simple person
and everyone needs to understand
that when we're talking about our money,
our capital being somewhere,
we want it to be a manageable risk.
And when we talk about Forex,
we are in a very sustainable market,
a very old market, a very traditional market,
but we're doing it in a very different way,
a very disruptive way
because we're bringing the crypto story into it.
Come on.
I know, we're doing it.
It's so exciting.
We're like, we're not just in Forex,
but we're also in crypto.
So we're birthing people into a new economy.
We're birthing people into a new paradigm shift,
but in a very gentle way
where we're not exposing ourselves
to a lot of risk again.
And then we also have our e-learning, our academy.
And because CFX benchmark product
is an empowerment education product
and it is registered as a training education company,
it is the difference that makes the difference.
A company that has a real product
that adds value to its community,
that it can be built upon
over the many years and decades
is so exciting for me.
Because although we love the done for you trading,
and this is the key, done for you, right?
It's done for you.
Don't have to figure out how to use the Forex
or how to trade yourself.
It's done for you.
And Ash will speak into that a little bit.
The key is that there's education at the heart of it.
And that's what's really important here,
empowerment to the people,
not just teaching people how to,
what is it?
You don't just give people the fish.
You teach them how to fish.
And that is something that needs to be
in the ecosystem of anything that we're talking about.
And then the last part is of course, social networking.
We have to be able to share this
with our brothers and sisters.
We have to be able to come into unity
because that people power and passing the gift on
and giving people a hand up
as opposed to just a hand out
is the thing that makes the difference here.
So we're very proud that we have four industries
under one umbrella that's in a very sophisticated way
is able to support every person,
every family, and even every community.
And we have even charities.
in a sense, movements that come on board CFX.
And because they open up a position in CFX at the top,
all of their community actually rise together
and the abundance flows up to the purpose
and the mission of that movement.
And there's so much that can be done in communities
that are purpose and heart driven.
It's mind blowing because there's so much prosperity
in the sharing part, in addition to the trading part.
So I think that's probably,
just to kind of like open things up,
I'll pass over to Asha to share his story
because my dream was really very simple.
When our son was born, I just wanted to retire my husband.
It didn't make sense that Asha was sacrificing his dreams
to support our family.
I was looking down the barrel of my husband
working for another 40 or 50 years
in a job that he wasn't passionate about
to support my dreams.
And that didn't feel right because we're partners.
And I've really appreciated Asha's standing
for my personal growth and my spiritual growth as well
over the years.
And he's worked really hard for our family.
But when I saw CFX
and when we really dove into what was possible,
we saw that this was the one that was going to be able
to not just talk about retiring, but literally do it.
And within 12 months,
Asha's been able to just only recently
give up his full-time career, not just his job,
but his career as an IT project manager.
And we are helping,
we've now have nearly 10,000 people in our organization
that we're supporting globally.
So we're just shy of 10,000
and we love everybody in our organization.
We know that everyone is thriving,
but we are a movement.
We are not just a prosperity machine.
We are that too,
but we are a heart-based movement
that will be here in 10 years, in 20 years and beyond.
And that makes me feel really excited.
So I'll let Asha share a little bit
about his perspective of-
Let me jump in there just in the transition
and just say to everyone,
really want to encourage you to turn your ears on
and really listen in here
because at the end of this call,
what we're going to do is
we're going to share a link with you guys.
And if you like flip,
I want to get into crypto now.
We're going to share a link
and it's going to give you the ability
to book a 15 minute call with Asha.
We're going to set you up
with how you can actually get into the crypto world.
There's a couple of things you're going to need to buy.
You're going to need to get a crypto,
or not to buy,
but you're going to need a crypto wallet.
You need to connect to a crypto exchange.
Those by yourself could be daunting, overwhelming.
We're going to give you exactly how you can do that
on a free call.
And then we're going to set you up
with how you can actually step
into this whole world with CFX.
So pay attention because they are producing ridiculous.
I don't know if I say ridiculous.
I get, I'm a pretty excitable person,
but they're producing really exceptional returns
and Asha is going to be a testimony to that in a moment.
But I just want you to pay attention
and let you know at the end of this chat,
we're going to give you a real simple,
actionable process
that will help you.
Most people would kind of get tripped over on this next,
you not be able to step into the crypto world
or buy Bitcoin or anything.
We're actually going to coach you through that at the end.
So Asha, over to you.
Thanks Benji.
And thanks Anna also.
Wonderful intros both.
And it's a real honor and a pleasure to be here.
And I guess Benji,
I just want to continue a little bit about that story
that Anna was saying,
but before I do that,
that thing about being able to step into this crypto space
as well as this forex space.
It's literally like,
I've really found a place where helping people
to onboard into these new worlds
where they may not have taken a step before,
which literally opens some massive doors
to new prosperity for themselves, for their families.
Nothing gives me greater pleasure at the moment, right?
Like I'm really,
you know, when I get onto a call with people
and I show them how to purchase Bitcoin for the first time,
and I always tell them,
you know what guys,
putting aside all the amazing things that this company is,
this forex trading company is,
you've just come in,
you've just come on board with Bitcoin.
You've just bought Bitcoin for the first time.
Don't underestimate the profoundness,
if that's a word, of this experience, you know,
because you've literally taken a step
into a brand new economy,
which is an absolute revolution in the way,
not just the way that we do finance,
but the way that we do everything in this world,
you know, the world of blockchain technologies.
And so there's a whole new world
of how the financial world.
works, how the whole world of governance and decision-making works and it's a really beautiful
thing and I'm a really passionate supporter of the blockchain and crypto-based industries there.
Now, I do want to come back to the point that my background is as an IT project manager
and I know that when Anna and I were first shown this opportunity I brought all of my project
manager kind of risk management type tendencies with me, right? And so initially I was like,
right, we have to really do and Anna is also of that nature where we really have to do some
deep homework and deep due diligence before we really understood what was going on here.
And once we did that and once we sort of saw all of the green ticks lining up for us,
we really jumped in. And for me at that time, really understanding and this is after being
with my wonderful wife who's always had more of an entrepreneurial outlook on life,
who's always been that little bit more open to new opportunities. I realize deep in my heart now
that that is, it's a way of life. It's not just a new business that you're getting into, it's a way
of beingness where you can be open to opportunities, where you can take, we can push the boat out a
little bit, take a little bit more of a risk than you might have done a month ago or a year ago.
And it's only through being open to taking another step forward that you can really see, you know,
like a completely new life unfolding before you. And so I recently, Anna and I recently watched a
movie where it was a bunch of men who were really trying to sort of break out of their
sort of, of their mold, right? And one of them, you know, sort of going around the circle, he said,
you know, I see a lot of people who are, you know, blue collar kind of, you know, grinding at
working their butts off. And, you know, there's a lot of white collar slaves here. And I was like,
you know what, that's exactly, that was a brilliant description. I really felt like that white collar
slave. And the fact that this opportunity, this gift has kind of landed in our laps and we've
sort of taken it and run with it. It's been a completely life changing opportunity for us.
Okay. So I guess what I wanted to share with you is that, you know, my, up until, you know,
a couple of months ago, I was, you know, sitting, you know, there's a certain comfort level that
you have when you're in a, in a, in a white collar job where you're earning six figure,
six figures per year, which was in itself a gift. And I'll have a lot of gratitude for that,
for that fact. However, you know, when, at that point where we were making that, that level of
income in a month, we sort of had this kind of like, oh my gosh, this sort of moment. And it's
like, you know, let's, let's really talk about how we can, you know, how we can accelerate our
own growth forward and that next step. Can I pause on that Asha? So are you saying you were
starting to earn in a month through CFX what you were earning in a year in your job? Absolutely.
And, and we've consistently been doing that now for the last few months. And so,
and I don't, I don't say, say this from any point of being a, you know,
show off you or something like that, but, but it more, more from the point of view of, you know,
it's so important to let people know that this is, that there are these opportunities that are
out there for them. And, you know, it's not an impossible thing. You know, Anna and I have been
involved with a number of different network marketing companies over, over time where,
you know, there's so much conversation, so much discussion about, oh, this is your pathway to
financial freedom, et cetera. This is the first company where we can live. We can literally say
everybody wins because of the way that it is structured because of the service that's provided.
Every single person wins, whether you decide to share this or not. And so whether you decide to
make a business or not out of it, you will, you're still going to come out better than when you came
in. Okay. Financially speaking. And it's really, really important to understand that. And so when,
when we talk about the fact that so many people now are, are already there in financial freedom
zone or on definitely on their path, we can say that in a really fully embodied. Yep. I believe,
I believe this and we are living this right now perspective as opposed to it being a pie in the
sky kind of dream out there. Yeah, that's amazing. I just, I guess I want to just really emphasize
and maybe go a little bit deeper on like for you, how did that feel right after all the different
ventures that you'd been through and maybe, maybe even Anna, right?
like because you'd been the entrepreneurial one with this hope of retiring your husband
how did it feel you know after years of that and you've I know you've been really successful
because that's how we connected you know it's through um through business where you were
already exceptionally successful but you weren't successful enough to retire your husband so how
did it feel for you when that moment actually came when after years and years of actually
working towards this you finally tipped the box and we're still processing it we're like in this
transition where you know letting go of you know that kind of stable so-called it's not stable
anymore because it's not you know there's nothing that is reassured through you know your kind of
job but transitioning now to just being full-time entrepreneurs is the most liberating feeling it's
a very it's it's a freeing feeling but the I think the key is it's how you do it like you know
if you if we were to be completely free of a job but we didn't love what we did or Asher wasn't in
his zone of genius or it felt heavy it wouldn't be worth it you know but really what's happening
is that every other venture we were in Asher would be my support person and he would be doing something
quite dull like like you know people you know in a previous company it was you know paperwork
specialists and someone needed to do it and Asher's really good with that sort of stuff and
he's patient and these are the skills that you need you know the customer service with um what
we're doing now the difference is Asher's passion is cryptocurrency blockchain financial prosperity
for all people and birthing people I say birthing that's my word but you know this kind of it's what
we're doing we're transitioning people from an old money paradigm in the banking system
to now having a cryptocurrency wallet you know starting with your first cash fx pack and what
I wanted to say was it's accessible for everybody this does not discriminate and that was the most
important thing that everyone including our first nations people our indigenous brothers and sisters
everyone could be a part of this project whereas other things that we've done before have left
people out it's just not quite attainable financially to get your foot in the door
whereas once your foot is in the door everyone is prospering right away and that's something that
gives us so much joy so we are having a phenomenal time we go to the beach every morning we have our
little meetings together and we've we're closer than ever before we've got a joint vision we've
got whiteboards all over our lounge our lounge room our kitchen upstairs downstairs because our
vision is to rise others you see with the work that we're doing it's not about us you know as
Asher said it's not about um you know sort of showing off what we want to do is we want to pull
others up and show people the way and we want other families and husband and wife teams and
solo parents and people who are out there on that hamster wheel we want to show them that there is a
better way and it can be oh so simple and it doesn't have to overwhelm you it just has to be
the right the magic source of those perfect industries coming together that we know are
going to be growing and that they're sustainable for all of us to thrive that's what's important
yeah um Asher it's a big transition how many that was most of your life working
working a job yeah yeah 100 100 yep since the day I left university to you know a few months ago it
was pretty much that that's awesome so for you just give me a little window into how that felt
like we woke up and you didn't go to work yeah it was it was really huge I mean it's hard like
Anna said we're still processing it you know like something that that that huge you know you're only
discovering you know it's kind of like this new playing field where there's a new energy that's
that's you know being embodied in my life where um it's it's absolutely massive I mean I did have
a massive smile on my face I can tell you that that morning that I wake up and and actually to
be honest I had a I had a smile I've had a smile on my face for a lot longer than that because I
I could see what was coming I knew I knew what we had in our hands and it wasn't like one day we
made a decision and there it was it was it was being able to already be connected with this
amazing community of like-minded um souls that we that we are here um with CFX and this amazing
team that we're that we're growing and building and we're helping to nurture and um and so I've
been really happy for actually for a long time you know it felt like the the quitting my job thing
you know was like yep that was just the next thing on the checklist
towards this amazing path of growth
that we're on at the moment.
It was a really important thing,
but, you know, Anna and I have already been
sort of in that leadership role,
showing people the way towards amazing prosperity
with CFX, you know, for at least a year now,
up until this point.
So, yeah, it's been a really fantastic transition.
That is awesome.
And let you just carry on, man, carry on.
Yeah, well, what would you like to hear?
Look, you know, this project, as Anna said,
you know, this is accessible for everybody, okay?
And what we have seen is people that come in
with a really modest amount,
or people that are already in an affluent position,
sort of coming in, they see a big vision
of where this company is going,
of what can be done in this space.
And also the amazing benefit
that a leveraged income can give you, you know?
Like, you know, CFX allows you to effectively leverage,
you know, your income in a couple of different ways.
You get to leverage your income
just by virtue of the fact
that you're doing this outsourced trading.
You get to employ somebody else's services
to go out there and trade for you,
these experts, to make you money on the trading floor,
or, you know, on the notorious market, you know?
So, for example, I just jumped on with you guys,
got my first couple of packages here.
So just for people who've got no clue at all
about what we're talking about,
the first stage of what we're talking about here,
of whether you want to get on board
with this company, CFX, or not,
the first stage of what we're going to really help you with
is to get some Bitcoin, you know?
So, I mean, that's cool.
So whether you decide,
hey, you really want to jump on board with CFX or not,
which is a bit of a no-brainer, really,
when you kind of see it,
but I'll just kind of help anyone who's like,
what are you guys even talking about?
I'm kind of missing it.
First thing that we're talking about
is basically what Ben's been talking about
and what Trevor was talking about
is actually stepping into a new economy.
That's the first thing we're talking about.
And that's the first thing that's exciting
about what we're going to help anyone who wants to do
is for the very first time,
actually get some Bitcoin,
actually step into that side.
I did that, and that involves a couple of processes.
You got to get a Bitcoin wallet, which is free.
You got to set up with an exchange,
which is just where you trade money for cryptocurrency,
which is free, takes a little bit of time.
So I did that.
And then I worked with Asha
and Asha helped me take my Bitcoin
and buy us a package that CFX offers.
So I bought a 500 US dollar package, I think, was it?
Yep, that's it.
Yeah, I think I bought a couple of those.
So-
That's it.
I think you've done a great job at describing that, Benji,
but you've pretty much knocked it out there.
So what we would say is-
Oh, now, here's my question.
Now that I've bought a couple of these packages
and that's just the start,
but I bought a couple of those packages.
So how is that actually going to make me money?
I've got these packages with CFX.
How's that going to make me money?
And we've had these three ways
that we've been talking to people about generating money.
You can trade time for money, which is my least favorite.
You can have your money making money for you,
or you can trade influence for money.
And this influence for money one, I think,
is the one that people are just starting to catch up to,
especially companies are starting to catch up
with this like never before,
which is why companies like Never Before
are offering the opportunity to pay me for my influence.
So how are my packs going to make me money?
Okay, so on a really simple level,
when you buy a Trading Academy pack with CFX,
you're effectively making a contribution to a trading pool.
CFX take the money that's in the trading pool.
They're the ones that go out there and trade on your behalf.
They've got broker accounts.
They go and place trades on the global Forex market.
And to those people who aren't aware
of what the global Forex market is,
this is the market where all of the major currencies
like the US dollar versus the euro versus the pound
versus the Aussie dollar, the New Zealand dollar,
Canadian, the Japanese yen, and the Yuan,
where those currencies are traded.
And when those currencies fluctuate in price, okay,
that's when we have opportunities
for buying and selling and making profit, okay?
And the genius of the CFX system
is that before CFX was actually a company,
this group of traders brought to the gentleman
that's now the CEO of our company,
and they said, listen, we've got.
this software here, which we've been running for a couple of years now, and look at the
success that we've been getting.
And the power of the software is in the expertise that we put into it, it's in the monitoring
of the trading software, so this is software that is looking for hundreds of different
indicators in the global forex market, all the different, you know, indicators that might
indicate to you that now's a good time to buy, or now's a good time to sell.
And, you know, you can buy some software off the shelf that will run for a day or two and
might make you a few bucks, but then a few days later it will crash and probably be not
such a great financial experience for you, because you don't know how to tweak it, you
don't know what you're doing, most people don't understand that they need to keep on
monitoring the global micro and macro situation to be able to make that software really hum
and really continue to be profitable.
You were saying before, Anna, that this is over a six trillion dollar a day industry.
Yeah, absolutely.
The global forex market dwarfs the other markets, okay, so, you know, if you look at the, you
know, the, whatever it is, the New York Stock Exchange, for example, okay, you're looking
at something that's like a 20 billion dollar a day market, which is a massive sum of money
in itself, right, but the global forex market dwarfs the other markets.
Is this the biggest market in the world?
Yes, by far, by far, but you know what, it's also the market where people lose the most
money if they try to do it themselves, which is a tragedy, because most people don't have
the skill or the, it takes a lot of, you know, it can be very emotional and people when they
start trading with their emotions can lose a lot of money very quickly.
We're very blessed because the style of trading that is done, the low risk strategy, the automation
that's involved, the systems that they've created in-house, proprietary systems, mean
that our money is safe, it's really consistent returns.
We're in our third year now of positive trading results.
We can be really, I think we can really rest in knowing that leave what the experts do
to the experts and let's focus on what we do as humanitarians.
Share the love.
So that right there, I've bought a couple of packs, that money is going into a trading
pool and so that, I mean, they can, because it's a six plus trillion dollar a day industry,
there's ridiculous room for scaling, right, I mean.
It's, we have no issue with scaling.
This is the biggest market in the world that these guys are involved in.
No issues with liquidity, yeah.
And so what they actually do with CFX, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm trying to make sure I'm
on the right page, but they basically give a contractual return, right?
There's a contractual agreement of like, you're going to put this money into CFX
and they are going to pay you out double what you put in over a period of time.
Is that correct?
That's right.
And this is the key, the red flag would be if they told you how long that would take,
if they told you how much your return would be every day,
the promise of delivery is to double your pack value, which is amazing.
But because trading is different every day, we receive the percentage return
that is allocated according to how the trading went that day.
So currently we're earning between five and five and a half percent per day,
but pre-COVID times they were, what was it?
Sorry, a week.
Sorry, that would be phenomenal.
A week.
No, no, per week.
So around the one-ish percent per day, but pre-COVID it was more than that.
So, you know, we're working with the markets,
they're working with the economy that we're looking at at the moment.
So this CFX has been doing it consistently for over three years, hadn't that same return?
We're now in our third year.
So we've had our second birthday.
We're well into our third year of positive trading.
So we're pretty excited.
And we are really just at the very beginning of what effectively is phase two
and all of the amazing things that are being launched now.
The company is always innovating.
And at the end of every month, our CEO is presenting live stream
on YouTube to our entire company and the world because it's public
and shares all of the corporate updates and what's coming.
And every month, there are always new features that are added to the platform,
new innovations and things to support the community.
Now, 400,000 members strong globally to be able to thrive and share this amazing.
Yeah, I mean, this is really interesting for the concept of a contractual return.
And a lot of people don't realize this, but this is where the real,
elite actually how they do their investments. So they create zero risk contractual returns and
that's actually the insurance companies if you kind of look at the actual bigger infrastructure
stuff the insurance companies make block loans of cash to the banks for a contractual return. So the
insurance company it's a zero risk return so they're always they're always just making that
return. So I guess for me that's the parallel that I see I'm like okay the contractual return this is
amazing. So that's one side but then how does it work for you know so I can see there this is great
because I can get my money working for me and that's automated I'm not trading time for money
so I flip and love that and it's a contractual return which is ridiculous in the sense that
that's really rare and then the second element of how I can make money or how I can make money if
this is trading influence for money. So CFX will pay me for my influence in some way how does that
work? So what so if the contract says for a particular trading pack CFX is going to double
that money from just by the passive by the trading side if it's also give you the ability while
you've got that active trading pack to be able to make an additional two times that pack value
in referral bonuses. So if I go out and share this with somebody and they decide to come on
there are two main bonuses that we talk about. There's something that's called the fast start
bonus that applies only to your direct referrals and then there's then you also make another bonus
a uni-level bonus from the direct referrals as well as from indirect referrals that they bring
on as well. So it's quite amazing you know the just the quick magic numbers here are that anybody
that you bring on directly you're making 15 percent of the overall pack value and by the way
you're not that that referral bonus comes specifically from the sale of that e-learning
product that Anna was talking about before that that academy training product. There's a very
clear boundary mark between the purchase of that e-learning product and the referral bonuses from
the sale of that product versus the trading capital portion of your of your of your funds
and nobody nobody in your upline gets a slice of those that trading capital either on the way in
when somebody comes on with a new pack or on the way out when you're getting paid a trading return.
Yeah amazing amazing. Oh it's fantastic and so and so what what Anna and I have been able to see is
that you know of course we've we've gone out there well I should say Anna has mainly gone
out there and made a bunch of direct referrals okay but but what we've seen is this really
beautiful organic growth that happens from some people who just just want to share this with a
couple of members in their family and then there's also people who really see the big vision of this
and see if they treat this like a business they can really turn it into a business and make some
serious business level income out of this as well. So and so what we've seen is that from the
people that we've referred many of them have gone forward and shared this with a few people and some
of them have shared this with even more and creating and nurturing those people to help
share as well and what you get is some amazing organic growth and some amazing residual repeated
sales and ongoing bonuses. That's awesome so you can get a package right so just to get in
the game with CFX what you do is you you get a package so that process obviously involves first
you've got to get some Bitcoin because they trade in Bitcoin and do they pay in Bitcoin as well?
So what I'll say is that the way that we've designed this process that we're going to
offer out to everybody here on this call is that we'll send out a link for somebody to to schedule
in a quick 15-minute call and on that call we're going to gather a little bit of information from
you. You know what sort of funds would you think about you know starting with? Okay do you already
have Bitcoin or is that something that we'd like to help you to get started with? Okay and once
you've gone through and you've done a few steps and then we'll send you on your way you do a few
steps here you go here's your sign up link go and create your CFX account here's the link to a
crypto exchange go and create your account and based on how much funding you're looking to put
in I'll tell you how much you need to deposit in terms of your own local currency okay so that we're
ready to buy some Bitcoin at the right time and then after once those things are done then we get
on board with a on a on a what we call an onboarding zoom call okay and that goes for about a you know
anywhere from half an hour to an hour where we where somebody whether it's myself or somebody
else will literally handhold you through the process of logging into your account
Selecting the pack you want to purchase, then going to your crypto exchange,
buying the Bitcoin that you need,
and showing you also how to send it off to CFX to complete that trading pack purchase.
So it's really, I mean, guys, we've done this hundreds of times, right?
It's a really well-worn path.
I will say that depending on where in the world you are,
that will probably determine which crypto exchange or wallet
we would recommend to you to use if you are still new to the Bitcoin space.
But again, we've got lots of experience there.
We're aware of how lots of different exchanges and wallets work around the world,
and we can step you through that process.
Throughout the entire process, you'll feel very supported
because that's a really important customer service piece for us.
You know, like, it's really important that, you know,
as people take those first steps into these new economies,
whether it's, you know, Bitcoin for the first time,
whether it's investing in forex for the first time,
that, you know, we don't just sort of say,
here you go. Here's a bunch of instructions.
Go ahead and do it yourself.
See you later. Thanks very much.
We'll get a payday at the end of it.
It's we are all on this journey together.
And it's really important for us to connect on a very personal level
with everybody who's going through this process.
And, yeah.
Go ahead, Anna.
I just wanted to add really quickly.
So although we're not trading on cryptocurrency,
to make that distinction, we're not trading crypto.
This is important.
We're using Bitcoin as a token,
like as to buy our first trading pack,
and we're getting paid out from US dollars into Bitcoin.
It's a wonderful, wonderful feature
because it keeps everything very secure and very transparent.
And it just takes away all credit card fraud
and dealing with banks.
And we can be a little bit decentralized and disruptive.
And I think that's the difference with projects like this.
We are rattling the cage.
We are new and we are different.
And most traditional banks and governments
don't understand what we are or who we are,
but they know that it's trouble
because people are taking their money from the bank
and they're bringing it over to companies like ours
because we are amplifying people's returns.
Like the bank would give us 1% if we're lucky, a year return,
whereas we're getting that a day.
So naturally, the pushback is there.
Naturally, we are not aligning with the agenda
of the mainstream.
Naturally, there's going to be disruptive narrative out there.
And we've become very accustomed to all of that,
you know, noise and nonsense,
but we're staying in our lane of supporting people
through this transition so that no one is left behind.
And crypto and Bitcoin really keeps us honest
and also allows hundreds of countries
of unbanked people around the world.
Remember, most of the world don't have a bank account.
They don't have a line of credit.
They don't have a credit card.
They can access the CashFX platform
because of this cryptocurrency narrative.
So rather than the trading side being crypto,
they can access the crypto.
You've got me playing on the lives on Facebook as well.
Sorry about that.
I'm off mute.
Did that make sense though?
I just wanted to clarify that little distinction.
But once we know that we're done, we feel safe
because we're using it as a currency
rather than being exposed to the cryptocurrency world
before we fully understand what it is.
Yeah, beautiful.
Now, it's important to note as well
that for our friends in America and Canada,
there's still going through regulations
ticking all the boxes for America and Canada
to get in on this.
So if you're in America and Canada,
it's currently a pause for you being able to get in on CFX.
But it's not a pause for you getting in on Bitcoin.
And I still have another awesome opportunity
for anyone who's in America or Canada
who wants to start generating some exciting returns
with Trevor in the crypto space.
So if you want to get into mining,
that again, it's not like you have to do any mining.
These guys will do mining for you
and actually increase your crypto supply,
your crypto amount.
So for our beautiful family who are in America
and Canada,
I would just be getting ready at the gate
because this will all get ticked soon.
I'm not sure I don't have any dates on that,
but get ready.
If you're in America and Canada,
you'll get your chance.
But for those who...
aren't in America or Canada, most of the world is all good to go and jump on board right away.
Yep, absolutely. And it won't be long before American Canada is fully open and compliant.
At that point, it's going to explode in such a big way. So if you are in America and Canada,
let's definitely still get together, have the conversations because the possibility for
American Canada in 2022 is just so explosive and exciting. So we really want to start the
conversations and connect. Asher, just on this side, because we get a lot of Americans and
Canadians who are part of our fam, for them, is it worth them still booking in a 15-minute call,
getting set up with crypto, getting ready to go for when things get there? Or in terms of your
side of things, do you think they should wait or should they just get Bitcoin, they get ready,
they get all the things ready to go and as soon as things are live, we light them up?
What are your thoughts for them? Okay, so it's a really great question.
Look, if somebody has a genuine interest in wanting to be in the crypto space,
okay, because I can't tell you that we are imminently about to open our doors in the
next week or the next month. If somebody does want to come on board and they want to purchase
their Bitcoin, that's going to be something that they really want to do because they really want
to be in that space. They want to hold Bitcoin for purposes of their long-term, what we call
hobbling, right? And that's absolutely available to them, okay? I would say though for the moment,
yeah, it's probably not the right time to have the conversations with our American and
Canadian people, but yeah, happy to really sort of as soon as that becomes available,
let's absolutely have that call. Okay, sweet. So what I'll say for our beautiful friends in
America and Canada, in terms of the CFX stream, maybe just hold off for now on signing up and
booking up on this call. But what I will do for our people in America and Canada is I'm training
up one of our staff at the moment where actually she's training with Asha. And what I'm going to
do is I'm going to offer all of you guys a free call with her to get crypto accounts set up,
et cetera. So if anyone wants to have crypto accounts, they'll probably be able to do it
from next week with her. If you've already got crypto, that's fine. But anyone who wants to get
coached into just getting their first set up, I'll get that set up with Marieke. Some of you
will know Marieke. And then I'll also give you the opportunity to jump on board with some other
options there. So this isn't the only option for you guys in America and Canada. Usually,
it's kind of like you guys get everything first, you get the movies first and all that,
and the rest of us are kind of waiting. A little bit of a flipped scenario now for you guys.
What I'd suggest also is that we could definitely plan some regular touch points if all of our
American and Canadian friends who do want to let themselves be known to Marieke, et cetera.
We can organize a bit of a monthly catch up or something like that where we're giving the latest
updates from CFX and we can let people know how our progress is going, et cetera.
So let me ask this for you guys. You guys have obviously bought a number of packages.
Have they fulfilled their promise and you've gotten your return every time?
A hundred percent. So we've now gone through a process where we've actually
renewed a couple of our packages because we were able to upgrade our way. We actually
started with a couple of $2,000 packages and through the power of compounding, effectively,
what we've been able to do is we chose to reinvest some of the earnings that we made from both the
passive side of the income streams as well as the referring, the sharing side of the income streams
into effectively extending our trading contracts, larger trading contracts where we're making
not only are we making greater passive returns, but we've also increased our capacity
to earn the referral bonuses. And so we've already hit the 100k packs and renewed
those and we've been making plenty of withdrawals from the platform as well. Just this year,
Anna and I bought a beautiful new home here in Sapphire Beach. I'm looking out onto the
waves as we speak right now. And it's been a real gift for us. This is definitely not one
of those platforms where you just have to keep on gobbling your money all the way through the
platform and you never actually get to see a sense of it. It's the
it's absolutely there for you to be able to withdraw and benefit from your investment.
Cool guys. So any final thoughts from you guys? It's been such a blessing to have you on.
So thankful for your time. But if you guys have got any other thoughts that you think would be
great as we kind of close and then we are going to shoot out Ash's Calendly link and anyone who's
keen who wants to book a call in. Now you can talk with him about funds, about options, about
strategy. There's some cool thoughts. He'll run you through there. It's a 15 minute call
that will kind of put you, set you on the right track and set you up to get Bitcoin, etc. Then
after you've done that, you can book another call on him for an hour, which is a beautiful
onboarding call. And it's pretty epic. Like he could be charging a lot of money for that,
but it's going to be free. You're going to get that free onboarding call. He'll actually buy
the Bitcoin with you, set your pack up with you. I did it with him a couple of times. It's such a
cool, such a cool space. It feels awesome. It's just fun doing it with him. And you can buy packs
from like as little as 300 US dollars all the way up to 100k. So it's kind of, you know, like even
if you just wanted to start something, you know, like on the side and just start a little thing,
or if you like flip, I want to replace my full time income. I'm like really serious. I want to,
you know, you can jump on board. You can do that. And there's plenty of people dropping
those 100k packs. Yeah. And one of the things that we have mastered over the year is really
understanding the compensation plan. So we help people create strategies for their family legacy.
So rather than just thinking of maybe, you know, 100k in one position, we would show how you can
maximize the returns of that 100 straight away for yourself and your family, and how you can
split it up in a way that you'll be trading possibly three or even four positions at 100k
in a short amount of time. So depending on what people's budget is, we have reverse engineered,
essentially, the way the money flows to meet people where they're at, as you say, meet their
goals, most people just want to replace their income so that they're at least financially free
to focus on their health, their healing their family, and you know, really spending time on
things that they're passionate about. It's already complex, the world is already incredibly complex
to make the money problems and the money stress go away, is a gift that we can bring people.
We know that this platform is the one it's it's such a no brainer, I feel so blessed to be able
to share CashFX. We've seen so many dodgy weird things out there. And I do believe people need
to be very discerning. But to work with people that you know, and that you trust and you have
a relationship with is is number one and really just trust that gut feeling inside you inside
your heart. And go with that. And we look forward to seeing you on the inside. There's only so much
that we can understand in our heads. Some of this just you have to take a step in. And it's on the
inside that you start to really understand what you have, as soon as you start getting paid.
And you start getting in the frequency of receiving money. And every Sunday morning,
you get an email saying congratulations, you just got paid again. And we have six ways that you get
paid in CashFX. So you just, you know, the trading returns is the tip of the iceberg, truly,
it changes something in you, it opens up other doors, it really puts you into a place of abundance
and really embodied prosperity. And so I just say it's a no brainer, take those first few steps with
Asha, you'll know and feel so much more once you're in and we'll be with you every step of the way,
we're not going anywhere, the company are rock solid, they're not going anywhere. And we just
know that this is a relationship like with you, Benji, it's about relationship building. And we're
going to grow together and become who we're here to be together. You know, it's a it's a team effort.
And we are a team. And that's how I like to play is it's more than just a company. And it's more
than just money. It's it's yeah, togetherness. Totally. So thank you guys so much. You know,
the reason that we really decided to fast track this and do it this week instead of next week,
which was kind of a crazy move, you know, you're planning something for February and your schedule
is all booked up and then decide on Wednesday, now let's start on Monday. Yeah. And it was a
bit of a mission. But the thing that really for us is like, oh, man, we've got to do this now because
you know, over 10, like we've just been saying to people, you know, just in New Zealand alone,
which is that we're a small country, you know, like less than 5 million people over 10,000
businesses are closing a month because of lockdowns. Over 10,000 people in the last
a week or so lost their jobs because of mandates.
And I shared with people, you know,
just earlier in the call that, you know,
I've got a friend that he was doing things legally,
but he was doing things that the local council
and the government didn't like,
and they took all his money out of his accounts.
It's crazy.
It's, we can't be, we just can't be vulnerable to this.
And so this is, we're in a stage right now
where if we play the system
the way the system's always worked,
we're extremely vulnerable.
And so it's one of the reasons we wanted to fast track that.
So I just want to really thank you guys so much
for your generous gift of time,
and Asha for just saying to people
that you'll jump on a call with them
and help them sort all this out
and give them all the strategy and the insights
and just hold their hand and walk them through.
It's pretty amazing.
I really appreciate that.
It's like, it's such a huge gift,
and I'm grateful that you did that for me as well.
And I'm really, really excited about just, you know,
sharing the journey, sharing family,
and then reconnecting with people.
I know this is going to be a long-term adventure
where we're going to have a lot of,
we're just going to have a beautiful adventure together,
and I'm excited about all the fruit that'll come.
And as we close, it's cool to
just share a couple of,
in the theme of Jewish stuff, as we wrap up,
a couple of thoughts here.
Ecclesiastes 11.2, which we've shared with everyone.
This is Solomon.
It says,
a feast and seven ventures, yes, and eight,
for you never know what disaster may come upon the land.
And that's the idea of the Seven Streams Challenge,
is that if you want, you can just be curious,
or if you're really keen,
you can set up a couple of new income streams this week,
or if you like, just want to go crazy,
you can set up seven streams of income in 72 hours,
and we'll walk you through that.
The other verse here, which is kind of crazy,
which most people don't realize is even in the Bible,
is Ecclesiastes 10.19, which says,
food is made for laughter, wine makes life merry,
and money is the answer for everything.
And it's like, how did that get in the Bible, right?
Like that was King Solomon wrote that.
There you go.
And well, I mean, obviously there'll be some context to that,
and it's not trying to say that, you know,
money replaces God,
but it's trying to say that even from a biblical perspective,
that money's a big deal.
And one of the things that Jesus said
is that you can't serve God and money.
And here's the reason he said that.
He said that because we're called to serve God
and rule over money.
And you know what?
Yes.
We're called to serve God and rule over money.
And so when money's in its right place, it works for us,
and then it allows dreams to come to fruition.
And raising royalty, and I shared this yesterday
as our heart, is we are a family of kingdom royalty,
discipling nations through fulfilled dreams.
There's three things that take out dreams.
It's, you know, like when we don't know who we are,
we don't know our identity,
when we don't know the actual, the science of dreams,
and then also poverty.
So you guys, this is huge for humanity, huge for people.
If they can start getting their money sorted,
if they can start ruling and reigning over money,
if they can start investing in multiple streams of income,
they can really flip the script.
So thank you so much for being a part of the process
of people changing life forever.
Great to be here with you all.
Thank you so much, Benji, for inviting us in.
It's an amazing community,
and we can't wait to get to know people here.
And thanks, Asha, for just being awesome
and helping everyone through this process.
It's huge.
Beautiful.
Thank you.
So I'm gonna drop the link.
So Asha's gonna send me a,
I think she sent it to me already.
I've got the link there, which is his Calendly link,
to book a 15-minute call, and that's your next step.
Okay, guys.
If you're like, okay, you're kind of on the verge,
even if you're on the verge,
and you're like, actually,
I just need a little bit more info here
before I wanna jump in,
book that 15-minute call in with Asha.
He'll help you with those little thoughts that you had,
and he'll get you set up on starting off.
So I'm gonna do a quick screen share here
for like one second and show you exactly
where I'm gonna drop the links.
So the links are gonna go in the description of the video.
So look, here's us.
It's gonna go in this description up here, okay?
So the main description is where I'm gonna put it.
I'll put the, at the bottom of this description,
it'll go in here, okay?
So just go and click into the video,
and you'll see, okay, right, here's the link here.
I'll book my call.
And I'm also gonna send it to the email list, okay?
So if you're not on the email list,
go to raisingroyalty.com, drop your email there.
You'll get on the email list,
and I'll send this all out to you.
In a couple of hours' time,
I'll send the email lists out,
repay links, and all the details for tomorrow,
where we've got two more exciting streams of income
that'll change your world as well from the inside out.
So thanks, guys.
That's us for today, and well done, everyone,
on this massive-
Have an amazing day, everyone.
Bye.
Thanks, Anna.
Thanks, Aisha.
Bye, everyone.
Bye, Benji.
Bye-bye.