I'll hold it.
Okay.
Hey, Mary Alice, how are you?
Oh, can we get you unmuted. Thank you're muted there. Yeah.
I should have questions but I'm just hanging out to see what you're how you're helping others.
Perfect. Well we love having you love having you just hang out so that's perfect. And I see your cameras clear.
Now.
Oh well, we have opportunities for humility, don't we.
Yeah, I thought it was fun. It gave us a good laugh.
We want to give you guys a tour of our, like, the setup that we have and this has been kind of funny because, oh yeah, like, behind the scenes it's pretty chaotic here but like on camera it looks really nice but it's like there's stuff words and stuck
everywhere to get it to work.
So I started with a little box that was like one foot by one foot cube, and I put the entire studio in there.
Just reminded about like how much you don't need that you sometimes accumulate from for studio stuff I'm like, if I just need the bare minerals, bare minimum, it's not that much.
So, I think, is this a permanent room you've left.
My parents live here in North Carolina and my grant one of my grandmothers and I have some aunts and uncles as well so we are here for Thanksgiving but we decided to extend the stay a little bit, so we're here early and enjoying time with the family
which has been really nice.
They're more excited to see Hannah than us but that's okay.
Awesome.
I'm just going to pull up this here.
Open.
Oh, there it is.
Cool.
So I know we had Liam Brendan, and I think we did they jump on. They were here. Oh, there you are. Hello. How are you guys doing.
Really good. I've just joined back with my art classes so it's like so fulfilling just to go up the mountains and drop off my painting. So, that's awesome.
So you paint, I don't know if I knew that.
Oh yeah, I paint.
You want to see one of my paintings.
Yes.
Always.
I do paint I'll show you my one from last year.
We live in the east, and we have a lot of Melbourne is surrounded by mountains, pretty much.
Oh wow. Beautiful.
Yeah, quite iconic.
And yeah, there's some beautiful spots there. And yeah so ready like 15-20 minutes from there. So there's huge like different types of gum trees and yeah it's a beautiful space to go.
Leigh just started painting about 12.
Two years ago.
That's one of mine.
Wow.
He's this little, but I make them big because I just love magnifying how amazing God is.
That's so cool.
That's beautiful.
Yeah.
Thank you.
You have to incorporate it into your channel somehow.
And you've only been doing, you've only so do I understand correctly you've only been painting for two years. Yeah, because I used to be.
That's amazing. Yeah.
So I used to just start paintings make a mistake and then stop. So, you know, I mean recovery, and now I'm fine like I just make mistakes, and all the paints you can paint over it so that's funny.
That's amazing. That's beautiful.
I know we have some are we have other artists in the group as well like Hillary for instance so yeah I'll share your
Canada who's in Canada.
I can't think of it.
Bruce is so tired.
We were having a conversation before we got on here.
And he was like-
Our seven-month-old is like winning the battles,
it feels like, in the day.
We're like, how could someone so small make us so tired?
So we've also had like a crazy,
like we traveled to California,
then we came back and immediately started doing a challenge.
And then we did the workshop.
And then like 12 hours after finishing the workshop,
we like drove nine hours up to North Carolina.
So it's been like nonstop.
And you did a live as well with Graham Cooke.
Yeah.
And you're doing a challenge this week.
We're doing a challenge this week.
Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
So yeah, I did all compounded.
I know, I know.
Hopefully I'm still making sense on camera.
That's what I...
I still can't think of her name.
Who's the Canada, like the couple?
Oh, Colleen and Graham.
Yes, Graham, Colleen.
I kept thinking Graham Cooke,
and then I was like, no, it's not Graham Cooke.
That's not right.
Yeah, so anyway, all that to say,
thank you for sharing that with us.
You guys are up first.
And Mariel said she's just here to hang out.
And if she has a question later, that's fine too.
So the question that you had,
I would wanna make sure I understand,
cause you talked about ads,
but then you talked about Creator Studio.
So were you...
I'll tell you why it's really good you clarified,
because I've had all my sleep.
However, I remember Bruce and you showing me
through Facebook Creator Studio,
and I can see that I've...
I don't think I've ever done a real ad from Creator Studio.
I think I've just been on a post and boosted it.
Okay.
So that's what I wanna clarify.
Let me take it, yeah.
So like, just, yeah,
if you wanna share your screen as well,
we can take a look at, see what you're looking at.
And just to be clear on the terminology.
So the Creator Studio is there for posting new content,
but there's a Business Manager,
which I think is what you're saying,
like, or the Ad Manager.
That's where you would launch like advertising.
They're kind of in the similar spot,
but one's Creator Studio,
and the other one is the Ads Manager.
Yeah.
Okay. Gotcha.
I will.
All right.
So one, so Studio is to launch new content.
So if we uploaded, that's where we're to upload.
Oh, I get it.
We're meant to upload, bless you.
We're meant to upload the YouTube video that we've,
you know, the episode into the Creator Studio bit,
not just what I've been doing, just posting it.
That's a good, that's good for me to know.
And-
Yeah.
And I think there's a tutorial somewhere on that.
I'll mention, I'm gonna do a live in the membership group,
but if you guys go check out the roadmap now,
like since this weekend, we just updated it all.
And so I think-
I did, it looks fantastic.
Awesome, yeah.
Yeah.
And just like before this call,
I finally got it like moved over to the membership sites
because there's two different websites.
There's one for you guys and the members,
and then there's a different one for the people
who just bought only the roadmap.
Gotcha.
You guys have a little bit more extended features.
Like you guys have like Tribe Social,
you have like these open coaching calls.
So that kind of thing,
we just didn't want them to get confused.
So, okay.
Yeah.
So this, cool.
So yeah, if you wanna go, I think it's like,
they're, let me find the URL.
So it's gonna be-
Oh yeah, sorry.
I'll get into that Creator Studio, isn't it?
So yeah.
Yeah.
And they're both at like business.facebook.com.
Yeah, I just had it open prior.
I prepared myself before I dropped my art off
to have Creator Studio up.
Sorry.
So to be ready.
And did I, am I in it?
Is that?
No, I was-
Yeah, so let me grab this pen.
So yeah, you can get to it a couple of different ways.
You can go up to the top, like this little,
the dots up here, probably behind Zoom.
Yep, those little dots.
And then there should be like, let's see what you got.
So this is technically everything.
And you can scroll down here.
It just, they typically put the most recent thing.
Yeah, Creator Studio.
So this is where you would go to post for Facebook
and then also for Instagram and IGTV.
Okay, IGTV and stuff.
Yeah, so it looks like you have like a recent post there.
Yep.
Cool.
And there's a tutorial that we did on the YouTube channel
that just kind of walks you through like where to go
and how to schedule and all that.
I will find it.
That's good.
No, we did.
I looked at that.
Okay, cool.
I'll find it again. I think it's even more, because I wrote up all your links.
I think it's in padded post. I think it's in...
Yeah, I promised Mary Alice that I'm going to make this like,
just like a list of all the links.
Because I feel like we just need like a table of like,
want to edit, you know, this, click on this link.
Because we can actually, everybody is going to be the same link.
It's business.facebook.com slash creator studio.
And if we, and anyone in the group clicks on that,
they'll take them to their creator studio.
So I'm going to, I want to finish that this week
and put that somewhere like on the front page of the membership site.
Because that'd be good.
Cool. Okay.
So that's the, and that's the one part of it is,
this is where you would do Instagram and Facebook.
And then you were wanting to get to the ads from here as well.
Yeah, because I think I've done boost,
but I don't think I've actually ever done a Facebook ad.
You showed us, I've actually watched the video
of how to do it with one of the lenses.
And it looked, I think you only put a couple of minutes of content,
you know, like 19 minutes, 9 minutes.
So it's going back, I think, into DaVinci with Brendan
and maybe getting a snapshot of one of ours.
And then uploading that to here rather than the big,
because they're all there.
But in terms of doing an ad that's engaging.
Yeah. And I'll say, so something that actually I learned this,
I learned in the last seven days from doing the workshop.
We had someone who consulted with us to help us run ads
for the Facebook, for the workshop that we just did.
And so I was telling him that we were doing
three to seven minute content.
And he was like, oh no, that's way too long.
And he was saying, you should be thinking of like 30 to 60 seconds.
So kind of like what you would have done for Instagram.
Because remember, we said Instagram is like a 60-second.
Hey, here's what it is ad.
Well, so then this would just be like a piece of content if you can.
But a clip of.
Something that's valuable.
That shares like value with people. Yeah.
You know why that's so awesome?
Literally, I looked at my analytics or something in here
that showed that people listen 30 seconds of our video.
And I'm like, oh my gosh!
And they're tuning. I'm thinking it's great.
There's all these, there's 1.3k hits,
but they're only listening to 30 seconds, if that.
So you're just like lining up with what I've just seen.
And I was just seeing that.
Yeah. And then you got to make sure you hook them
with something in that 30 seconds so that they stay.
What's a good example of a hook?
Because I'm not a, I think certain things are engaging
and I realize that they're not.
So I think an example of a hook that I'm thinking of
might be a young person, you know,
like a Dylan or Aaron saying something amazing
because that's really hooked people on
and got some likes on TikTok quite a few more
than what I ever expected.
Just for 13 seconds of them talking from their heart.
Yeah. I think there's two ways to do it.
Like one, you can just verbally
and when we're thinking like the hook,
like really those first 5 to 10 seconds
should be like the key thing.
Because that's, it's like you're creating an ad
in the first 5 to 10 seconds
to watch the next minute.
And within that first minute,
then you want them to stay till the end.
You're keeping, you got to keep them to stay till the end.
And that's a very common, like it's called retention.
Just how long are we people staying
and watching your video?
And again, a 30, if it's 30 seconds of a 60 second clip,
that's actually really good.
If it's 30 seconds of a 20 minute clip,
you know, that's not so great
because now they're just considering like a frac,
you know, small percentage of the total content.
So what you could even do is think of it like,
and like just an ad for the rest of the episode.
So I would take like a clip from someone that,
something good that that person said,
like if you're interviewing a guest,
find like 30 seconds to 60 seconds
that you would use for TikTok
and just take that clip,
shove it to the very front of the thing.
So it starts right with that clip.
And then when that clip is finished,
run your intro
and then start the episode after that.
Like just that little change,
what you're doing anyway,
like if you're going to do it to TikTok,
you've already found the clip.
You already, you know, you've got to cut it up.
I would just drag that to the beginning of your sequence
and just have like something really powerful for a few,
you know, it doesn't have to be 30 seconds.
It could be 15 seconds.
It could be 10 seconds, you know,
just something to kind of grip people,
like an interesting story.
That's kind of the main thing.
And then you can, they're going to hear it again
a second time when it plays through
and they get that clip,
but they've kind of had like a teaser now
of what to expect.
I mean, this is,
it's actually like more important in the beginning
because once you get loyal followers
that love your content and know who you are
and you've built that trust,
Stuff isn't actually that important.
It's just for the new people.
It's like this, you have to go like jump on all these hoops for the new people so
that they, um, stick around and they get to know you.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Okay.
So yeah, just to recap, it's just grabbing like that first five seconds, five to 10
seconds or 15 is really important.
So like a taser, like some, some really good content.
And then for us to go in to DaVinci and put then after that little
clip, put another 30 seconds.
Yep.
Yeah.
Cause it's really tempting, especially with the longer form or format content
that you have in your interviews to be like, okay, like, let's get started.
This is Lee and Brendan, and we're going to be interviewing Dylan and let's go.
But like that is taking up really critical real estate because
it's that first 15 seconds.
So bring the, that sound bite that you're like, oh man, this is like the
essence of what we want people to like hook onto and bring that to the front.
It's like a, like a movie trailer, right?
It's like a 32nd movie trailer.
People, you know, you don't just start the movie as we should have used that
example, now that I'm thinking about it, that's, that's a good, I'm
going to see, I'm going to use that again.
Um, use that like, so basically instead of people sitting down and watching
a two hour video, like just having that trailer, it was like, is this
even something I want to be watching?
Like, is this even vaguely relevant to my life?
Um, cause the people who do hear that, um, it's like, you're, there's people
that may be listening to it and then disappearing who actually are the
people that need to hear the rest of the whole thing, but they didn't
know what it was about in the first 30 seconds, they couldn't
figure out what it was about.
So they just kind of moved on.
Like people have very low, uh, patience for
there's the short and short attention span is the words and lots of options.
So that, yeah, it's shocked me that they've only got 11 seconds to listen
to a tick-tock and that they were most engaged with an 11 second video.
So I need to get over myself.
The tick-tock tick-tock is the first frame right now that you have to hook
them in the first, like, still is what I heard someone talking about.
So sometimes that caption that you use is even more important than the sounds
kind of like an ad because it, it will load that first frame for a second or two
while the right before the video starts playing, people see that for just a flash.
And then by that point, they're either going to scroll to the next video
or they're going to stick around.
So it is harder to do.
Um, we did put all the, um, short format content stuff to like the week
nine, I think in the road matches.
Cause it is, it's kind of like a diff it's like once you just finished
mastering all this, this stuff that you're doing now, um, it's like a
totally different playing field.
Um, when everything's just reduced to that short of time, but yeah.
And my, that's fantastic guys.
I'm going to attempt that this weekend.
We, we are going to attempt that.
That's great.
But the only final thing I wanted to run by you guys, just from your experience.
Some, um, there's a person in that's given advice to grab.
How can I explain it?
Um, you know, an existing thing, like whether it's not for us, Christine
Kane, but Christine Kane's posts, then.
Putting her, um, putting then her information at the bottom, like her
own information, not Christine Kane's.
And then that's boosted numbers, but I didn't know if that's right or okay to do.
Um, and so for me, that might be just normal thing.
And I'm just like, just overthinking it, but is that something
that's a good thing to do?
So if I understand, like taking a piece of content, like a
Christine King, uh, like quote.
We're like, or something like, you know, you might set you to be, you know,
someone in the UK that's got care, leaving thing that is, you know, a
really well-known one, and then just posting saying, this is a really awesome
thing, guys, um, uh, love what you're doing.
Um, and here's a little bit of thrive peak coaching, or is
that not the right thing to do?
Um, yeah, it's a great question.
So it's a normal thing that people do, like, especially for, um, you know, I
mean, cause shareability is like it's social media, right?
So Christine Kane posts something that I think my followers will really enjoy.
Like retweet, right.
Or something like that.
So it's not like a bad thing to do.
I think where it gets a little bit iffy, in my opinion is when people
and everyone does this, so like, it's not a, even people that I love and respect.
So it's not bad, but like people like take a quote, like a Wayne Gretzky
quote, or like a Christine Kane quote, or like someone famous,
like a George Washington quote.
And then they like post it and they put their own branding on it.
Like they say it's George Washington quote, or yeah, but
it's like their own branding.
It's.
fine, like it's not, cause you're still giving credit to the author, but it's just, it's,
I don't think it's a good practice to do that a lot because at the end of the day, you want
it to be about the content that you're serving your who.
So I think it gets a little bit just, um, I would say distracting if that's like all
you're doing, which I think, you know, sometimes it's like all they're doing is like, that's
great, but it's not really the purpose of what you're doing.
Cause at the end of the day, you want people to hear from you and the content that you
have to offer.
So I would say, yeah, I would just say, use your instinct as far as like, as you're looking
at your accounts, like, is this something that we're doing a lot of too much of are
people getting a majority of our content?
Am I doing this with the right motives?
Like am I doing this because I am really wanting to like help highlight this organization because
we believe in what they're doing and that's totally fine, you know, like, but just, I
think you're, I think you have the right instinct and you can trust yourself in like the motivation
of that.
Now that's, that's just set really good with us, hasn't it?
Yeah.
Cause I, I did a little bit of an avocado poem, which is avocado care leavers in the
Bristol after hearing this advice from my thought, that was all good and I hear you
and I just, I just didn't feel peace about it.
So that's good.
That's, uh, thank you.
Yeah.
I'm glad that I'm glad that's helpful.
Yeah.
And I think there's lots of, there's lots of tactics out there and lots of things that
people are doing.
It's just, you know, at the end of the day, it's like, what do I want?
This is my real estate.
My channel is my real estate.
I'm serving a very, I'm serving my who.
So what do I feel like it's going to serve my who the best.
And we definitely want to make sure that if we ever get to a point, I think where we feel
like our content, like can't do that, we need to ask those hard questions of why and make
changes to that versus like, well, when I post a Christine Kane thing, it flies.
So I'll just keep doing that versus like really getting, digging into like my own content.
Yeah.
You definitely can grow groups that way.
And I think because there's Facebook ads and things like that, it's just a little bit extra
effort to just take your own content and you can still put it in front of someone who likes
Christine Kane.
Yeah.
Like I do that.
And then, you know, so that, so we can put that in front of someone and then if it's
something that's interested.
So, so I think that's a better way to do it because then it, it just is a little more,
I think it's kind of like, um, any kind of marketing or advertising or sales thing.
Like if it's kind of a, a weird introduction to you, it's a bad place to start and sort
of like, if you're going to build this long-term relationship and friendship with these, with
this audience, it's a weird footing to start on, right?
Like no one, you know, anyway, so I think you guys get the idea.
I feel like that's really good advice because, um, when I, when I put it together, I think
it was like three or four weeks ago, I was just like, um, this doesn't, like, I don't
feel like I'm really valuing our content.
Like by just jumping on that, it's different when you do posts and you put that person
in there.
So I'll just, yeah, that's awesome enough said great soundbite let's that's that's it.
I think.
Um, and I think the YouTube video, um, had the subscribers have increased on our YouTube.
I think there was one subscriber and now we're 20, which is great, but Facebook and Instagram,
um, I think Facebook's increased a bit, but Instagram has gone like that.
Cause I'm still trying to get my head around Instagram and I'll, I'll watch more things.
Yeah.
And let's, um, let's take a look at your ads, um, as well.
So I'll drop a link, um, here and I am like, while you guys are talking, I'm busy making
this quick link.
Now you can just, you can, you can still share.
Um, I just, if you want to click on the link in the chat, um,
yeah, there is, um, it'll kind of take you there.
And the best thing to do is to, um, just bookmark all these, there's so many little links and
there's some, they're all weird to get to like, they're, they're kind of strange to,
um, cool.
Okay.
So this is your actual, um, campaign or your, uh, your ads manager.
So if you did a boost for whatever reason, um, it would just show up here.
So it's all, this is kind of the source of all truth is just the, what's in this space
here.
Yeah.
It showed me that I've done two boosts on, uh, on a four minute video.
And that, that thing I just talked about using another post and putting out content.
So that's the only thing.
Cool.
Um, and so did you start, it looks like you've got one in draft so far.
I think that's when I was learning from the video and then I wasn't confident yet,
yet to know that I'd done the right thing.
So this is why I'm using it.
It'll be great to put that out there.
Yeah.
Um, for some next steps, like I would just grab like a one or two minutes.
clip, like just maybe one or two. You don't have to pick like just one. You could put two or three
in there and just kind of follow the tutorial. You'll create like a engagement campaign for
page likes and we can, I mean we can set it up real quick now if you want and then you can just
drop your video in when you're ready. I would love to and then the next one I would do, yeah,
if you don't mind. Yeah, yeah. So if you go to the create button up here. Yeah.
And if anyone's thinking of running ads, you can click on the link and follow along and just have
this sitting in a draft. So you'll leave, yeah, engagement and then you'll scroll.
So it's engagement and then the, is it, yeah, that's fine. This, the view just has
changed just slightly since I last saw it, which was like two days ago.
We just want to be able to set, Sage just show more options there. Yeah. I think,
where'd this go?
This is definitely a little bit different. If you click on, let's just click on this
level here or you can close the little blue thing there.
Just click, yeah, there on this one. We just want to be able to,
because there's different types of engagement ads. So let's just see.
Yeah, just scroll down a bit here. I'm not used to the Australian version of Facebook ads.
Let's see here. I'm going to look at ours really quick to see if we can
replicate what we're seeing on your screen. Yeah. Because sometimes they do release like
specific things too, for whatever reason. New light campaign.
I can go back, Bruce, to the start and it might have more.
Yeah, see mine's actually different. Okay. So basically there's an engagement type
and let's just go, yeah, just hit the close button in the top left there. There's like a little X.
Yep. And just hit close. It's fine. And then let's just hit create again.
And I just want to make sure, I'm sorry, just hit cancel. I think if you hit create.
Oh, just click on the, sorry, click on the campaign level, which I think is right here.
There's like three tabs. So you've got like campaigns, you've got ad sets, and these are
the ads inside of the ad set. So this is, yeah, so just click on this one that you,
yeah, that's at the far left. Cool. And then hit create.
Okay. So let's click on engagement again. And I think, I just wonder if it could like,
there's no other options yet. If you click on that, I think that's just naming it.
See, it says likes and shares. Okay. It really is, I have mine pulled up and it's,
mine just looks different, but we'll just go, you just hit close here. I'll just make sure we
didn't miss a step in their new layout, but we can go to the one we just started,
which I think is right there. And just hit the little edit button there. It'll get us,
sorry. There's multiple edit buttons. If you hit the cancel, it's like this one right there. Yeah.
The one just renames it. The other one brings you to the screen. Oh, here we go. Conversion
location. So there we go. We just want to change that to Facebook page. That's how they did it.
And then there's your Facebook page. Cause it was at the, at this level. Okay. So let's just go to
the top. This is, we'll start, typically we'll start at the top here and you can just name it
like, you know, Facebook. So actually just click on the left side. It's, it's very confusing when
you're just doing like one ad because it's like, it's like a folder of ads and there's like ad
sets and then it just seems unnecessary. But it does make sense once you kind of add more to it.
But so you can just name this, whatever you want in the middle that, yeah, you could just name it
like Facebook page likes. And we did some targeting. I feel like we built some audiences for you.
Cause we were trying to think of like care and everything, like all the different things.
You did. You did. Yeah.
So we may be able to use those.
They should still be in your account here.
So what's gonna happen is like all the ads
that you run for Facebook Likes
can be inside of this one campaign.
You don't ever have to create like more campaigns.
The ad set is what you use to tell the,
you're telling Facebook who you wanna put this in front of
and the ads is what you wanna put in front of them.
So you can have like,
this one could be like Christine Kane
with like this clip of something.
And then you could do another ad set
that goes to like people from like Hillsong
with like a different set of like two or three videos
down here.
So, and it can all be under this giant campaign
called Facebook Page Likes.
And you can turn different ones on and off.
So this is sort of the simplest version of it,
but you don't, you can kind of keep,
that's the power of like having,
like getting this set up once
is you can just keep coming back
every time you wanna grow the channel
and just hit turn it back on again.
So we'll just go ahead and let's click into this level
and see what kind of.
A little three dots or just like.
Yeah, you can just click anywhere there, yeah.
Okay, so we've got page, Facebook page,
Facebook page and let's see it says,
that's exactly what we're looking for.
Page Likes, because we want, that's what we want.
We want Facebook to know that the goal
for the whole thing here is to get Page Likes.
I would go ahead and set like five bucks
and then just leave it on daily.
You typically wanna just start very low like this
and just see what works.
And so you can leave all these dates,
just uncheck set end date.
You can just leave it, let it run.
And then if you scroll down,
let's click on like used save audience
and just see what you have.
Okay, there you go.
Okay, we can, let's do that.
I think we came up with that one last time.
Yeah, we did.
I, yeah, yeah.
Okay, so it's kind of a, so scroll.
So this is where, so we're doing 18 to 52
and we're leaving Detailed Targeting Expansion on.
What that says is like, hey, Facebook,
like here's a bunch of things I think
we should put it in front of.
And if Facebook thinks they can find better results,
it will just try other things that are similar to that.
So it's kind of like, just uses this as a reference point,
which is better because the algorithms are very, very smart,
but it'll kind of see what you're trying to do.
So this is a pretty small audience already,
just seeing like, in fact, I don't even think it has like.
Pretty small, isn't it?
Yeah.
So this is the power of like testing stuff.
So if we scroll to the top, let's just try like,
just name this campaign something that you will remember.
Like this is Australian foster, you know,
Christians or something like that.
It's like a very, you try to like be very specific
about who you want.
And then that's pretty much all gonna be the same
and stay the same.
What you would do then is you would go
and like upload your first video there.
So if you click on this one,
you can just name this one,
like let's say you do a guest with one of the people,
you could name it like the guest names there.
So.
I'll leave this.
So because that audience was pretty low,
I'm gonna, typically we would say,
just build like one campaign, one ad set, one ad,
and then try that just to get started.
But since you're here, let's just,
so what you'll do is you'll click on these three dots.
This is where you use the three dots
and just hit duplicate.
I think it, just see if you can click there again.
There we go.
You can just hit duplicate again.
So it's gonna make one copy of everything we just did.
And so now just imagine if we had uploaded the video there,
that video would now also be in this other ad set.
And so now we have like,
we have like a bunch of different people
and we have like a bunch of different people
and we have a bunch of different people
and so now we have like Australian foster care Christians.
And then up here, we can just maybe target people
who like Hillsong in Australia,
like just something super broad
that they're kind of, they're just Christians
that like are in a certain age group in a certain city.
We're testing it.
testing it and you're serving it to people who could potentially have a heart for foster
care for, you know, care leavers, it's a little bit more of a broader target, but you'll catch
probably a lot of people that if you were to serve something like a care leaver interview
in front of them, they would maybe be interested in hearing more.
And so we can, um, if you scroll down here now, and this is where you just want to make
sure that you're on, um, to like clicking in.
And so the one that's blue, obviously is the one that you're editing.
And so here we can say, create new audience.
And then what you'll do is we've got Australia, so let's leave that.
And then, um, the age group, you could even just leave that, um, more and more things
that I'm seeing.
People are just saying like, leave the age wide open, um, and then go down, just click
off of this for a second.
And then just hover over this guy and there'll be like an edit button will appear on the
far right.
So here's where we can add like something.
And the only thing we're, you know, looking for is something that identifies these people
as Christian.
So they could like a certain band, like it's like a certain church.
You can kind of take a pick here.
Um, so yeah, you know, I can, you can pick whatever you think works.
Um, yeah, like Hillsong, do you mean?
You could do that.
Yeah.
And again, you can come back and change these.
And would you say that Hillsong like church is a better targeting just because Hillsong
the band has an even bigger reach, so that might be too broad.
So this is still, still only a hundred.
There you go.
Whatever you just did.
What did you do?
Oh, you took it away.
Did you click off of this?
Let's just see.
Okay.
So we did, I think we deleted it.
So yeah, just put Hillsong church again.
Um, and then it will like suggest some things.
So just do that one.
Yeah.
And then hit suggestions there.
And so now you see like, you could also, if you hover over Hillsong United band, it will
tell you there's 7.4 million people, um, who like that.
So you could try it.
Um, so this is, and now that's just in the world.
So you are going down to Australia.
So it could be, um, but if you, if you add that, I'll just show you what happens.
So there's like your estimated audience size there.
It's going to run the numbers again.
And it didn't really change it all that much, honestly, only went to 112,000.
Um, now this one member over here wasn't even registering as they couldn't even give us
an estimate.
So this is better than that, but we'd like to get this to 500,000, um, all the way up
to a million people.
Um, so you could just keep adding specific, like Christian Lauren Daigle.
I wouldn't cause she's a little bit, she has a secular and so you'd get like a mix.
Um, but I mean, I'm just looking at the list here.
I'm thinking, I'm thinking of Christine Kane might be good just because of some of her
like a 21 efforts.
I know it's not the same.
Okay.
Let's sorry.
Let's do this.
Let's just do like that.
Like do like Bethel music.
Um, so we'll just do like music.
So this whole audience could just be like people with music interests.
And then you could do another one.
That's like speaker.
Well, the reason I was saying Christine Kane or people like her is because there's the
social justice side.
So some people follow her specifically because they're interested as in being social justice
advocates.
So, um, anyway, but let's stay on task.
Sorry.
Don't want to confuse you.
So let's just, we'll just add Bethel music here.
Um, and again, you can imagine that the people who like Bethel music are probably some overlap
with people who also like, um, Hillsong.
So the number may not go too much.
So you didn't actually really push it up much.
Um, and if you scroll down, let's just make sure detailed targeting is on here.
Sometimes it doesn't.
Um, if you just scroll down here.
Uh, um, say show more, Oh, here, you're actually right there.
I just want to check that box.
Um, sorry, this one up here.
Oh, sorry.
Um, there you go.
So that will actually like bypass it.
See how it just jumped to 13 million.
It's saying that, Hey, we'll just keep trying stuff until it works, um, and use those other
things as a guide.
So these are very, very broad.
But what people are finding is the more broad you make it for Facebook, the more you leave
Facebook, put Facebook to work instead of you trying to figure out the perfect targeting.
Um, and it will figure out over time that women who are 20 to 30 respond really well
in Melbourne to this particular ad of the three videos we showed, they typically like
this one video.
like to redirect, add money to the right one. So then you'll come in and you'll just add like
your video there. And then you can also click on the three dots there and actually duplicate
the video. So you could create like a second video. And what Facebook will do is if you have
$5 for that, and you have two different videos, it will start by splitting like $2.50 per video.
Initially, but then it will figure out which one is working better. And then it will just
redirect money to the one that is working. Yeah. Cool. Okay. So I think this is actually pretty
good to leave it in this state. You'll come in and just you'll hit add media. And this is where
you can follow the tutorial pretty closely to just match the last few steps. So you'll load
in the video, you'll put some text in here, and then you just hit the big scary green button that
says publish. How much would you put in the primary text? Because I think I put a whole lot on.
Less than 280 characters. So we actually, this is something we shortened. We used to
do these really long ads. And then this workshop, they just, again, this thing,
this stuff changes every month. There's something slightly different. So
I would keep it short. That's the moral of the story. Yeah. Short, shorter. So you said no more
than 280. The links, no links in this one because all you're wanting people to do is like your page.
Yeah. So you see there's a big thumbs up button. So they're going to have a video view.
And then right underneath it is a big thumbs up button. If they hit the thumbs up,
they're actually liking your page, not the post. And so they become a follower. Like one click,
now they're following you. That's why this strategy works really well because it's just,
so you're just giving them a little teaser. And most people are like, oh, that's cool. Like,
like, like, and then they just get on your list and then you can start to share more information.
Any hashtags in that 280? No, just text here.
I'm learning so much guys from this because I think I did lots of hashtags, lots of links,
and tried to link them through. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. That's cool.
Really good. Yeah. Hashtags are typically good. They can be good for like more of an organic
reach, but this is you're paying for this boosting. So you don't need that kind of help. Yeah.
Yeah. That's good. This will be a cool campaign. And then just keep in mind that like this is $5
a day and that's $5 today. So they're just going to be $10 a day together.
Yeah. And if you want them to be, if you just want to be spending $5 a day,
you want to leave it at five. You want to leave it. Yeah. Okay.
Yeah. The better thing to do. And honestly, like even some of our ads, when we were spending a few
thousand dollars a day on ads with this workshop, like most of our campaigns, like what we just did
here, we're at five and $10 a day. There just was like, like many, many duplications of them.
So that works really well, that five to $10. I wouldn't really go past that. What you'd rather
want to do for your thing is just like, let it sit there for $5 a day for a month. Right. Or just
like a very long time. What Facebook doesn't do well with is if you try and blow like $500
in the next three days, you'll just, you'll, you'll get results, but it's going to be very
expensive results. But when you do that slow trickle over a month and there's gonna be a lot
of people on screens coming into the holidays and Christmas and New Year's and all that stuff. So
this is a great time to just be leveraging that. So what's the lowest you could do? $5 is the
cheapest. $10 is the most. Okay. Yeah. It's also changed since I've taught. Yeah. So if you're able
to do that, if you can do that, let it run. If that's something you can do, because you're giving
Facebook more time to kind of figure out the audience and do more work. So at least over a
month. So I say that just like big picture, like that you'll get really good results over time.
But like, if you put the videos in tomorrow and you launched it, you know, tomorrow or over the
weekend, by the time we get on our call on Tuesday or next Thursday, we'll have some really good
results already. Like you'll like at $5 a day, you should be getting like 20 to 30 new likes every
day, just on autopilot easily. And then, then it will just be a matter of like, okay, how can we
get the cost per like down and even cheaper? Cause if you're going to spend $5 a day, you may as well
get 500 people to like your page versus just five people.
Um, so we want to, that would just be the difference between it being a cent or a dollar per like, so it's just, it just becomes a numbers thing.
And so you, you just constantly like adjusting certain parameters, maybe a good starting point.
If you can budget wise, like give yourself a week.
So like we can get on a coaching call and have about seven days of data so we can look and see, okay.
Yeah.
Even just to one or two days is fine.
Okay.
Even just one or two days.
But if you're able to, so I know you guys are, that's $70 versus like $15 worth of testing.
So it's better to catch it early.
And also we can, what you can do, which is helpful is just screenshot.
Like if you hit the close button, we recommend people do this.
If you hit that close button and then it'll save everything that we just, we've done it.
It, uh, has it down a little bit.
Yeah.
It's all saved as you, as you work on it, it saves it.
Um, you say close.
Um, so if you come to like this view or actually click to the main top level here, you can just
screenshot this and post it back into the group.
And then I can pretty much look at it and tell you if it's like, give you some thoughts on it.
Um, so, uh, you wouldn't, you wouldn't even have to wait for a coaching call.
Yeah.
I can just give you some like general, like, like sometimes I could tell you like, like if you start
spending a dollar or two per like, obviously, you know, um, or even 60, 70 cents per like, we'll
probably tell you, Hey, just go pause that just so you don't waste money unnecessarily until we
talk.
Um, but if you're getting anything less than like 50 cents or less per like it's just leave it
running.
Um, especially cause your leads are very specific.
Like they're in this, um, they're in this one, um, thing.
So yeah, just, you can take a screenshot and share it into the Facebook group.
Um, just once you've got some ads running, then we can help you.
Cool.
Yeah.
And with those ads, no, like intro, outro, just like straight to the teaser, the content and that's it.
Yeah.
So like, um, I would say like the, this stuff is, it's not, um, it's, you, you don't want it to look
like an ad, like you want it to look like something that your friend just shared.
It's kind of the idea.
So just a piece of content.
And so Lindsay did like a 60 second ad.
We could, I can share that with you.
I think I can share.
Um, so for, for, for work, it's the, for the workshop.
So it was like specifically to get people to a landing page, but her ad was that you're not too
old to reach the next gender message.
It was good.
It was like 60 seconds.
It really touched Bruce deeply.
Now it was about how we need more spiritual fathers and mothers on line.
Yes.
And it didn't tell say that we didn't mention the word workshop.
We didn't tell people we were helping people launch online.
We just said, Hey, we really think there should be more spiritual
fathers and mothers online.
And we just use that to get a lot of people to watch it and be like, yes, that's a good thing.
Let's like it.
Let's share it.
Cause if they're showing interest in that and then they might be interested in the
workshop, but then we had like a second ad that they would see that would be like.
But if you're interested, like we're doing it this weekend.
So just to, just to kind of people to put their hands on.
Those are other tactics we can work through, but we'll just get
you started with this one first.
But really the point, the essence is make it just a piece of content and it
doesn't have to have an intro or outro.
It's just straight to the piece of straight to the, whatever the
encouragement or piece of content is.
And here's another way instead of like cutting it down, since you guys did
interviews, you and Brendan could just get on, um, like on your computer, like
you're doing now and just, just talk to the camera and say, Hey, you know, we
just talked to this person, um, yesterday.
And one of the cool things they said is this, this, this, this, this, and just
be like, and that's fascinating when you've got, you know, parent kids coming
out of the foster system, whatever.
It's just amazing.
And I just thought it was so cool how she said that this one piece and just,
and then that could be the whole clip that you just use.
Um, you don't, and you don't have to tell them, Hey, if you liked this, like
the page or any of that, just, Hey, this is really cool.
Just wanted to share it with you guys.
Um, you can do it on your iPhone or whatever.
It's can be very casual.
Yeah.
The idea is like, you want to kind of get people's interest and, and draw
them into the heart of your, like the heartbeat of your channel and content,
which is what we did and we'll find the file and show it to you, but that was
what we did with the workshop instead of getting on there and saying, Hey, this
is the workshop, this is what we're doing.
Click.
I just got on there and encourage people, you know, I said, do you feel like you're
too old to be doing the social media thing?
Well, I'm a millennial and I'm here to tell you that we need more spiritual
fathers and mothers on our screens.
So it was all about encouraging people and kind of awakening
their heart to the possibility.
of like, hey, this even, this is even something I want to do or pursue. So does that help?
That's awesome. And I think keeping in mind my who, our who, yeah, speaking to them,
even though initially we might be targeting people that want to help them. So yeah,
about their voice, something like that. Yeah. Yeah. And I'll just show you like,
and you might have, you might have a secondary who of those like advocates and people that want to
help like change the system, restore things and everything like that. So like, obviously you're
like main who is the care leavers themselves, but you also might be reaching people who just
want to come alongside you and, and be a part of what you're doing like online, you know?
There you go. Like as a secondary audience. Yeah. And I'll just show you this, like I copied the
link, I'll paste it in the group, but you can see how it looks with like two different videos. So
we did one with Hannah Bruncher and then one with Lindsay. And so this one was like, yeah, this one
was for Christian authors. This one was for South, South African Christian authors. That one's U.S.
That one's U.S. This was Australian. We did people who are interested in doing Christian video blog
interest. And then again, just took the same two pieces of content and just duplicated them all
to these different audiences. And you can change the text, right? Yeah. Of your ad too. Yeah. But
we didn't do that. So this is just two ads. Yeah. Just the same thing. We did a whole different
tactic for this one. I know, you know, it, I know you had very well how we did it the last time.
I feel like I'm just confusing everyone. It's okay. We did definitely used to do that way,
but I was told that we were doing it wrong. So now we do it differently.
We used, we were doing, we were doing like too much work. I think we're getting too specific.
We're getting too, we thought we were being fancy and we're actually making it worse. So,
but I mean, it worked for my like campaigns. Yeah. But you can click on that link. It definitely
works. It just wasn't like, we wanted the exponential growth, you know, that kind of
getting the like cost. And yeah. Yeah. Cool. Awesome. So there's the, there's a link in the
chat you can click on if you want to see Lindsay's video and kind of what the ad looks like.
That's good. Yeah. That's great. Awesome. And then absolutely. Yeah. Test it out and
let us know how it goes. Sorry. Hey Susie.
Just love listening to you guys. Oh, thank you. Are you just here to hang out or do you have any
questions? No, no questions. What are you like anything that I want to know how your channel is
just like state of the union, state of the union. I'm excited. I am getting a better sense of,
you know, what I am. I really, really appreciate Graham's challenge and I've, I'm getting it that,
that what I'm about is shifting from my mind, leaning on my mind to God's presence out of my
mind and into God's presence. What I was feeling was remember that overwhelming sense of God's
presence and I can't function in the world in, I don't want to leave this place, but I can't
function in the world in this place. And that that's what I believed for 40 years. And I'm
starting to think of, Oh no, I can function in that overwhelming God's presence in the world.
But I was just at a church thing last night and asked people, we all know that overwhelming
feeling. Can we live in the real world with it? And our pastor has said, he said, it's kind of
like, you know, this big hug from God and all the endorphins and all the wonderful,
but you can't just stay there. You know, you got to stop the hug and move on and do things.
And I'm thinking, no, you know, there's no way to keep feeling the hug. And, and I love what Graham
was saying about, you know, yeah, we're living, but what we know there's living here and there's
living in the kingdom. And I'm, and I'm curious about how can, I mean, I'm at a place now I can
stop any moment and feel the hug. And, and, but just today I got the sense of what if the
encouragement was sit with the hug five minutes a day and know maybe, you know, we can't function
that well in that intensity, but we could do it for five minutes a day. And with brain science
research that I've been exposed to, they're talking about sitting in.
gratitude for five minutes a day. I didn't think what about
consciously sitting in that overwhelming presence, five
minutes a day. So I've got all this going on. But at the same
time, I feel like my channel is the Greek words. And, and so
how do I pull those together, except I'm really feeling like,
okay, the channel is the Greek words. Because those are what
have backed up, you know, we have this experience. And I
think there are a lot of people like my brother said, Yeah,
that experience is nice, but where's the scripture for it?
And and to be able to say that. So I'm still kind of up in this
thing. And I have got a couple of scripts written that I need
to do. And one of them is, have you had that feeling? And how
can we function there? And then the other one is, okay, this is
what, for now, this, these are the places where the word for
now, which is the exercise of our gut shows up. I'm seeing
kind of like deer in the headlight.
I have some I mean, ideas. Yeah, you can start with yours. We're
just our heads are spinning in a good way of getting is, we're
just looking at you, like, it's kind of weird how we have set
up. So it's probably looking like we're looking way off in
the distance. But just with our teleprompter. Um, yeah, I mean,
I so it was interesting. There's an app that I tested and played
with called, it's called the calm app. And they do all these
like guided now, it's not a Christian thing at all. It's
just like guided meditation type stuff, right? And all I could
think about, like, how cool would it be for to have a
Christian version of this where people it like you were saying,
like, just sit for five minutes. I was like, well, how cool would
it be if your video was five minutes long. And so I could
like, get up in the morning, 6am, get my coffee, I hit play,
I'm okay, I'm gonna do my five minutes, hit play. And then you
could just have something where you kind of a devotional or
something that you share in a very kind of calm, peaceful
voice. And it could even incorporate some of those Greek
words, or the study or what it means, like to kind of break
down some of these words. But just and then there could be
some music and stuff you put in the background. But just kind of
let people like sit for a second and just soak kind of kind of
that sort of experience. I don't know,
because I think that you're going to be reaching people.
Especially with your content, you're going to probably be
reaching people who are only used to engaging with God in
their minds. And so you know, Graham was talking about we
first have a heart encounter, which is your point to there's
something internal, that we have an encounter with the truth that
then informs our minds and becomes a mindset that guides
our actions, etc. So I'm just wondering if you have a mix of
content where you do have episodes that are like a deep
dive on these Greek words, things are already doing, but
you talk about the application of it while you talk, you kind
of lead people through, you know, they're encountering a
truth in their heart, even though they think they're
encountering with their heads are listening, you talk about,
this is what this Greek word means. But then you can say,
here's how we would practice this. So it's not just what we
know about this. But this is what this is what this would
look like in our everyday life is how we would walk in this
truth walk in this, you know, so to Bruce's point, you could then
say, like, a way that we practice this is and you talk
about the practice of just sitting for five minutes a day
in the presence of God, and then you may later have a video, a
five minute video that's like a soaking. So you could say and in
case you're wondering, like, how do I do that? Like, here's a
guided five minute soaking session of me reading the word
or talking about the truth that you can kind of listen to
building kind of kind of taking people through like steps so
that eventually the idea would be that they could do that on
their own, you know, but just helping people kind of grow up
in that practice, you might get creative ideas on even putting
together tools that would help them in the application process.
Yeah, that's,
that's intriguing. And I'm really interested in it. I am
making a shift, for whatever reason, from being a teacher,
wanting to give information to actually really believing in my
heart, Holy Spirit is calling each of us near himself. So
that and we know this, so that whatever I say, it's actually
Holy Spirit speaking that to
them. And so I'm wanting my conversations more to be on the
type of, you know, so who is God being for you right now, you
know, speaking from that assumption, that God's at work
in them. My thing with, with the sitting in God's presence is in
that core of our being quiet, and maybe people just can't do
that very much. In fact, young woman who got me started with it
said she could do it for about 30 seconds at first. And so I'm
just thinking about just saying just do this. And I think what
triggered it was in Jesus calling, when it's saying, sit
in my presence, and I will renew your mind. Your mind will be
renewed, as you just sit quiet in my presence. And that's kind
of the direction that I'm going into. So it feels to me more,
less engaged. I mean, I want to ask questions, I want to do all
this stuff. And then I'm thinking, no, no, no. What does
your frame mean to you? What do you feel happening in your
frame? And what's your reaction to this verse? And so I'm
having, so that five minutes doesn't mean so this is
awesome. I love what you're saying, because the five minutes
is not you talking for five minutes. It could be you asking
those three questions in a five minute period. So you start by
saying the scripture, and then asking a question, and then
letting kind of background music play and allowing them. The idea
is you're activating them, because you're going to get the
resistance of people of saying, like, I don't know what to do if
I'm sitting there for five minutes. So this is a tool to
help them kind of guide them in their first, you know, couple,
couple times, like sitting in the presence, if you will. So it
doesn't mean that you're talking for five minutes, it
means you're kind of guiding them in that even that stillness
of just helping people be like, this is what it could be like,
and, and engage with the Lord in this by asking this question,
and then seeing what comes up, you know,
and, and from a to give yourself permission to have these two,
semi, like different types of episodes, because sometimes like
as a creative, you're like, Oh, but it doesn't fit the format.
And then I don't, you can't feel like, you know, you're
force fitting something. So you could do something where on a
Monday, you do a teaching. And that's the one you really spend
90 95% of your effort on. And then Thursday, or some other
another time in the week, you can drop like shit, just upload
like one of these five minute devotionals for like for the
week or something. And then that and it could either be on the
topic, but it could be very, you're gonna leave a lot of
space in there.
Like it could literally be the main scripture, perhaps of what
you taught on Monday. And three questions or two questions.
It's like, you could even just start every, every one of those.
So you can basically have a two types of episodes each week. But
I really think that these, these like soaking experiencing that I
love the I think you can use that analogy of the the hug is
like today, we're just gonna, you know, embrace the father's
hug by, you know, dwelling on this scripture and then just and
then just read the scripture. And then just say, now take one
minute and just feel this and just and then just quiet for
like a solid minute and then come back and say, Okay, now
we're gonna like and like, let's kind of guide people. I mean,
you'll fill that five minutes in no time with like, that much
space, a lot of space. Yeah. And I think I feel like that
content would do so well, like, because what's happening right
now is like, the world is doing really well, because they're
they have a meditation is God's idea. It's God's tool. But the
world has caught on that there's something about the stillness,
the and you talked about the neuroscience, there's a lot of
neuroscience out there about like data, brainwaves, and all
kinds of stuff about being in that still in place and what
that does to revive us, body, soul. And so there's a lot of
content out there that's like, quite honestly, trash, because
it still leads to death, because it's no Jesus, these are a bunch
of fence jumpers, they don't go through the gate of Jesus. But
you're offering the gate of Jesus and helping people kind
of guiding them in that that still place. And then
eventually, they could do it on their own. But you're able to
kind of again, only if it's captured
your heart, do it. But I think it would be a good supplement to what you're trying to teach people
as far as doing that, doing life from the inside out and understanding that core, that secret place
that they have and how to engage in that place with God. That's cool. So it's just because I've
been so much in my mind. Anything hints of it, I'm kind of like, okay, wait. For me, the way I
started really being able to access it quickly was Graham saying, thank you, thank you, thank you,
thank you. No, serious. Thank you. What he did was it mind of a saint or something like that.
And encouraging, I've done that, encouraging people. Thank you as just a word that has a sound
and then a choice of my will. I'm going to thank you. And then, oh yeah, thank you. You're big
and you're God and you love me and you know what you're doing. And the thank you just gets deeper
and deeper until as Graham says, say thank you until you feel thankful. And then you hit the joy
and the joy and the peace is the presence. So to me, I really, really appreciate your suggestions
and I will definitely consider them. And my concern is how do I access my frame?
And I don't know how to talk to about other people. How do I access that place easily? I feel
like there's this, it says in everything gives thanks. I mean, it's right there. It's like there's
this hidden button that nobody recognizes as a hidden button. You mean all I have to do is
sit in gratitude and I get to feel God's presence in the core of my being. And I don't know if
that's me after years of exploring or if that's accessible to anybody right away.
Well, it's the truth. So we know it's accessible, right? Because God's no respecter of person. So
if he says, this is what it is, it's what it is. Here's the bottom line. This is for anyone
that's teaching anything. It's really easy to assume the obstacles that we feel like people
are going to have to the truth that we're teaching. And when I feel that way, when I feel
that resistance of like, I don't know how to get past this, this and this and people's heads and
hearts. I just have to remember that the truth reached me. Like I'm living it because it reached
me somehow. And so it will reach the people that we're called to serve as well. We, because we're
in the world, but we're not of it. We don't have to be subject to the strategies of the world of
like, well, how do I break through all of these barriers? There's going to be creativity from
heaven. Sometimes we're like, you're having a conversation with someone, the Lord gives you
wisdom of like, Hey, this was their barrier. This is what I want you to say. And you'll know that
there's a breaking, but what we can't do is constantly be theorizing and assuming what
the barriers may be. Cause that trips us up. I always go back to the fact the truth reached me.
And so it can reach these people too. So I'm going to present what it is that I'm living,
the revelation that I'm living in, what I understand the scripture to say and how I'm
walking and practicing and experiencing breakthrough, right? Just present,
just continue to present that you'll be amazed at how that will just be what people need.
This is good. And this is good to know that this is this video, because it seems to me that when
I have shared what's going on with me, people I've either said it in a way, or it's been their
way of saying that they felt like I was imposing that this is the way it should be. Like when I
was talking to somebody about our core and she said, well, but I don't, you know, I don't relate
to God in my core or I don't feel God in my core. I feel him on my shoulders. And so I felt like,
okay, I can't say this is the way it is. But then I was so blessed on the call because I talked to
somebody and I said, Okay, this thing inside of me, I think it's my tent of meeting. You know,
I am the temple of the Holy Spirit. And this is my holy of holies. And then Graham today said,
this was his holy of holies. And I thought, Oh, my goodness. Okay, I guess I'm kind of on the right
track, or, you know, at least the same track here. But when I say that to some people, it's like,
you know, nothing. And so I have to get past, I have to be able to say, okay, this is what's working.
for me without, without imposing that thing of, and this is what you have to feel also
that people seem to hear.
Yeah.
I think people are hearing through their own understanding, obviously.
So like they might be thinking, well, I'm not, you know, when they, when you hear inner
core, sometimes you're thinking intuition and feeling, and you're like, well, I'm not
a feeler.
I'm more of an intellectual and all those things.
Just don't let that trip you up because the truth, what is the truth?
We experienced the truth.
We can experience the truth differently.
We have unique relationship with God, you know, some people, and this is just a basic
summary, but some people will, well, they will feel they'll say they'll feel more connected
to God in nature, for instance, or some people feel more connected to God in deep study or
deep work, or some, some people feel, um, closer to God in worship and music, or like,
are they closer to God and you know, things note because God is in them and they are in
Christ, right?
That is the truth, but there's something that comes alive because of probably they're wiring
the way God made them that they've, they all say, this is, this is how I, this is how I
experienced God, but the truth is the one with God.
And the truth that you're speaking to is, Hey, this is what's amazing is what you're
feeling in nature.
This is actually what's happening.
You know, you're opening up a world to them of, this is the understanding of what you're
already experiencing is that we have this inner place now, whether you feel it in your
gut or not, you know, feel on your shoulder, whatever, what you're experiencing is the
truth of oneness with father God.
So you're, you're still, you're getting there.
It's just that you're what, when you do explain it, just like when I would explain something
about living in peace, I'm probably going to use my own experience as the illustration,
right?
Because that's how I've experienced the Lord.
So don't, don't let that deter you from doing that because there will be people that connect
that connect that way to you, but you'll find in some of the feedback you'll get, you'll
be like, and I've heard other people say, this is how they experience it.
Am I freezing on you?
You're freezing on me.
Are you freezing?
Is this me?
No, I can't hear you.
There you go.
How about now?
Yeah, that was weird.
So that was you, not me.
We switched our cameras because we got frozen really quick, but yeah, I don't, I don't know
the last thing you heard that I said, Susie, it was really good, though, was absolutely
good.
Yeah.
And I wish you were just saying that you, you had people say something to you in your
comments.
I think.
Yeah.
So people, if you're, if you're getting feedback from people, your friends who are saying,
I'm not experiencing God that way.
That's okay.
We, I think we, we experienced God differently.
Like some people experience God in nature, they'll say more in nature than in a worship
service or vice versa.
The, that's fine.
What you're, what you're presenting is just the truth, the beauty of, Hey, when you feel
that way, or when you, when you feel like, cause the reality is like, God is near because
God is one with us.
That's the truth.
This is how I experienced that.
Is how I experienced the inner core, that secret place, that engagement with the Lord,
people might have different experiences of it, but it's still the same truth.
And that is oneness with the father.
Yeah.
That's what we're experiencing.
So don't let it deter you that people might say, well, I don't feel, I don't experience
it that way.
Cause you're still presenting the beauty of the truth, which is oneness, no separation.
And, um, the fact that there is an, there is an engagement, a place of engagement,
right?
Yeah.
Well, and I, and I think that the other big thing, I was surprised actually by the title
that it was to me, what God was the most important thing is that the Holy spirit is the one who's
doing this.
And when I think, Oh, I don't know where it go to where no, where to go next.
Oh, of course not.
It's because it's the Holy spirit doing it.
And so I'm wanting to, I think that that's why I've had this break is because I've had
to really get it more and more.
No, this is a Holy spirit doing this.
And isn't this interesting that we just happened to have this challenge with Graham that pulled
all this stuff together.
And isn't this, I'm having this one-on-one with you guys pulling it together.
So I'm really getting it clear
that I am still trying to get clarity
and needing to relax and just post
what the Lord puts onto me to post.
Don't worry about it.
And spend my five minutes a day quiet,
overwhelmed in God's presence
so that I can say, oh yeah, I can't do five minutes,
I can do 30 seconds, you know,
but this, you know, work up to it.
Yeah, yeah.
Continue to just share what's meaningful to you
because I guarantee it will be meaningful.
This is what Graham does.
He's sharing what's meaningful to him
based on his relationship with the Lord
and it's blessing all these other people.
So you're welcome, like do the same.
That was just, just even as you're sharing
sort of the behind the scenes of what's happening
is actually very helpful, I think, for some people
because you're like, hey, you know,
I don't even, I can't even, like, I'm hearing this thing.
This is something I've been wrestling with, like, you know,
and I'm working on-
I'm up to a minute a day.
I'm up to two minutes a day.
And just sharing, like,
and I wouldn't, you know, challenge you this week.
Like, why don't you take some time each morning?
And, you know, I think that kind of thing is fine.
You know, you don't want to do it in a,
what would you say, like in a-
Self-deprecating way.
Way, but you can do it in a, like, I'm a student,
I'm learning this thing.
I'm practicing this.
You know, it's something that I'm exercising,
you know, that kind of thing.
Encouraging the people to know, like, oh, okay, yeah.
I also need to practice.
I don't just, you know, oh, well,
I can't do five minutes a day.
There's something wrong with me.
And then, and then they stop, right?
You kind of help them lead to, like, baby steps.
So.
I think it's really fascinating how committed our brains are,
our minds, our logical brain is to being in control.
Yeah.
And that's an episode in itself.
Wanting to be active and wanting to know what's going on.
Yeah.
We are way over.
I thank you so much for your time.
Anytime.
I know we hadn't talked to you in a bit.
Yeah, so it's good.
I just wanted to catch up.
Good to hear how your channel's going.
We ended up spending a bit of time with William Brennan
because she's doing the ads, but that's good.
It was good listening to that.
And yeah, since I'm like not even really launching yet,
I feel like I am,
yes, I know what you've been saying.
You're not falling behind.
You're fine.
Don't worry about it.
But I want you to know that I am fully engaged.
It's just that there's not much showing right now
and I'm looking forward to when it is.
Awesome.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to that.
Everything that's going under the surface to sprout up.
It'll happen.
Well, this isn't my idea.
I mean.
It wasn't Lindsay's idea either.
It was someone else's idea that you just implemented.
I told you that I got the invitation on through BTV
the day before you guys started the workshop
and I was not doing it.
And Laura said, oh yes, you are.
So it's good.
It's good.
I love it.
I'm so glad to be along the journey with you, Susie,
and keep us updated.
Like feel free to jump on,
even if it's a state of the union like this,
just to challenge ideas, get feedback.
But yeah, and thanks for joining along in the challenge.
I really enjoyed it.
I think it's been one of my favorite like subject matters
that we've talked about, like topics and stuff, so.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was really pretty amazing.
Yeah.
We'll see what Lauren's doing.
It's very cool.
Very confirming.
So yeah.
Thank you.
Yeah, confirming.
Yeah.
And you're, you, and I'm sorry, I keep talking.
The parts that you put in,
I don't want to overlook your contributions
on the channel too.
Because you have got your voice that is your voice.
And I was, the first time I heard you on a challenge,
however long ago, I thought, oh my goodness,
she's got, you know, she's channeling Graham,
you know, who is channeling Jesus.
It's like, you weren't, you weren't repeating Graham.
Right.
This is me.
And, and that was, I thought, whoa,
somebody else can say the same things in her own voice.
Whoa, how about that?
Yeah.
And I hope that you're feeling encouraged too,
with doing that on your own channel.
Because I know we were talking in the group about,
hey, like, can I get this clip from Graham?
And I'm like, hey, I think it would be better.
If you take it, put it, you know,
use some of the wording,
because I know that some of the wording,
and Graham is very intentional with his language.
So it's like, I don't even want to reword some of the stuff.
You don't have to,
but as far as putting it in your own framework,
I think that really serves other people well.
Yeah.
Breaking it down.
Yeah.
It multiplies the effect.
Well, and I really appreciate, thank you.
I felt, I went to bed last night feeling embarrassed
for having even asked for something like a clip.
And then it was really good.
Laura says, wait.
Wait, who's, you know, where's that thought from?
Okay, we're not, that's not a kingdom thought,
we're not doing it.
And, but I appreciate your suggestion of,
I like the way Graham put exactly what I'm talking about
into these words.
And so I think Graham had these words for what I'm feeling.
And I feel like that's a good way to be able to share it.
Absolutely.
I mean, I share the practice makes permanent all the time.
I mean, that's Graham's.
Like, sometimes I give him credit.
At this point, I don't even anymore.
I just like keep saying it, which is fine.
You know what I mean?
Like, but it gets to a point of like,
I can't say it better, that's what it is.
But what I can do is I can speak about it
from my own experience.
So I'm not regurgitating or like just copying,
but I'm utilizing it in my own experience
and my own, what I've experienced in my own practice.
And I think that's what blesses people.
Because they can see,
sometimes they can see themselves in your story,
but they might not be able to see themselves
in Graham's story.
And the other thing is,
you may have thousands of people in your kingdom channel
that like, don't know who Graham Cook is.
True.
Or there's people that like, oh, yeah, I've heard Graham.
But like when you say it,
it's like so clear and it's so different.
And there's a lot of, you know, anyway,
there's that's just always the case.
Like when you launch your own chain,
because you have a specific style and rapport with people
that will just connect in a different way.
And it's, you just don't want to get loose site
that like, oh, well, because Graham's like a mentor
and like someone that we all know
in our small world that we have,
you know, you don't want to get disillusioned that like,
well, everybody already has access to Graham.
Like most people don't even know who he is.
So it's just interesting.
Yeah.
Anyway, cool.
And I like what you're saying, Lindsey,
probably three or four years ago,
I would keep, I know I was annoying people
because I kept saying, and Graham says this
and Graham says that, you were saying, don't do that.
And there came a point where I had to say,
yes, Graham says it, but I mean it.
Yeah.
I can say it because it is, it's me.
You got it.
I happen to have his words, but it's me.
That's exactly what it is.
But then it reminds me,
this conference is this man was just speaking,
just speaking.
And I realized every word he was saying was scripture.
It was just like one verse right after another
tied together perfectly.
And I thought if he had referenced every phrase he said,
you know, it would have lost it.
Yeah.
He was just speaking it.
And so I think, yeah, put Graham on the level of Bible,
but you know, just speaking Graham from myself.
Yes.
Speaking Bible from myself.
Exactly.
And after all, it really is all the Lord's saying anyway.
And.
There's freedom in that.
There's freedom in that partnership.
Yeah.
I feel like I've got one,
I felt that way for a long time.
One foot in the boat and one foot on the dock.
I love it, Susie.
Well, we'll let you go,
but I really enjoyed connecting with you
and keep us updated.
Please keep us updated.
And maybe even posting, yeah, right.
Yes.
You will.
I believe in you.
That's good.
Thank you guys for your encouragement.
I've really, really.
Yeah.
Awesome.
Bye Susie.
Have a great weekend.