This is Professor Robyn Cosford. For those who don't know, she recently got recognised as a
professor, which is very exciting. We are going live tomorrow with the Divine Health Summit
with an amazing crew of people from all around the world. And Professor Robyn, how are you feeling?
Fantastic. Thank you, Benji. Really looking forward to this and kicking off a whole new
teaching movement, really. It's a big change for me to be doing it to bigger numbers, more people
and, yeah, an ongoing thing rather than just a lecture here and there. It's great.
Really looking forward to it. Yeah, it's very, very exciting. If you haven't
yet jumped on board for the Divine Health Summit, then you want to make sure that you jump on board
for that. You'll definitely want to be on the email list getting the updates of when all the
sessions are happening. But they start tomorrow. The first one is 10am New Zealand time.
Professor Robyn and myself and Jana will be live for the first session. There's going to be a whole
bunch of transformational testimonies that people have just been able to come back from the brink
of death and total dysfunction in their families. But Dr. Robyn, Professor Robyn,
I should say, really, why don't we have a little teaser story? Why don't you tell people what
happened when a kind of an accidental chemical bomb went off in your face?
Yeah, I mean, I've got some phenomenal stories. I shouldn't be here. Incredible grace of God,
I'm alive. So I nearly died three times. And one of those, as Benji touches on,
was, and there are some moments in time you never think you know. So this was the 5th of July,
2007. And I was in my surgery, nation table, end of the day, 8.15 at night, getting ready to go
home. And there was a tin can on the end of the table that the staff had put there a little while
before because they didn't know what it was. And they wanted me to suss it out. And I just hadn't
got to it. I had a vague idea, but I hadn't got to it. And then suddenly, literally, as I was right
next to it, this can tipped over. It had swollen, I noticed. It tipped over and blew a hole in the
bottom of the can and sprayed a jet of foul green-smelling chemical directly at me. Of all
the angles it could have sprayed, of all the seconds, minutes, hours, days, weeks it could
have done it, it did it that exact second that I was standing there and covered me in this foul
green chemical, which started burning immediately. I screamed. There was one staff member still in
the place. I said, chemical, throw in all the fans. We threw in all the extraction fans.
I ran into the bathroom and started frantically, took off my jacket, which by that time was acid
stained all around it, took off what I could take off, threw water all over me. And we just,
and we moved the tin can into the sink and just left it in there and it kind of
burnt holes in the sink. It was good stuff. Turned out it was two vials. We learned this the next day
when we went back to the, you know, to sources. It was two vials, one with chloroform and the other
with hydrochloric acid, high-strength hydrochloric acid. And the forensic chemists who analysed it
later told us that the seals were faulty. And so these two things had mixed together inside the can
and swollen the can. So I was sprayed with this combined jet of chemical, which again, the
forensic chemists ended up saying he thought it was like, it turned out to be like phosgene, like
World War I biogas. So yes, immediately, severely, violently ill, drove home in a semi-comatose type
state. My nanny, when I got home, tells me that when I got home, I was very dazed. I was pale. I was
not well. And my eyes, they said, were totally black. They said because my pupils are just
massively dilated. Next morning, crazy, severe aches, violent vomiting. We were in the process
of packing up house because I was going to be moving. The one room I hadn't packed was my
reference library. I was too sick to move. I was just laid out vomiting. And so my big
pharmaceutical text was sitting there. God put it on the heart of two of my girlfriends, one after
the other, to come. And so the first one came and I said, OK, I want you to pretend that you're a
doctor. You're ringing Poison's information. You've got someone who's walked into casualty with this
story. Ring Poison's information. Tell them what we know. What do we do? And Poison's information
basically said, well, there's nothing you can do except supportive. There was no treatment. There
was no anything. They basically said you watch. So they were going to watch me go through kidney
failure and then liver failure and die. So I was like, I don't like that idea. So instead,
by this time, my next girl, my next.
friend had come so I got her to drive me to my practice because I have intravenous vitamin C
there. So we took I got my doctor who worked there at the time took blood my blood was literally
black it didn't look like blood at all and we kept that and got it sent to pathology so that
we could start to have some proof of what was happening the bloods and and he ran a 60 gram
massive dose double normal dose intravenous vitamin C and on the back of that the vomiting
stopped and I started to feel a little human still you know severe headaches went on so now
the bloods that yep um one thing about vitamin C that I've discovered is that it's actually
taken in solid doses it's actually quite the laxative isn't it that's right there's this
thing there's this thing called bowel tolerance that that's right you take it until it uh hits
that level of bowel tolerance so if someone's on the vitamin C be careful because you only want
to take it till it's you hit that bowel tolerance after that you'll turn into a fountain of something
that's right you take it about tolerance well this was intravenous because it is
humanly physically impossible to take the doses that were being pumped into my veins
by mouth so it had to be done intravenously um but yes oral vitamin C is a really if you need
a bowel clean out that's one way to get a bowel clean out you know but it will boost your so yes
so I had intra high dose intravenous vitamin c every day for I think it was six weeks now I'd
have to go back and look at the results but it was daily except for weekends um you know for six
weeks we what we tracked the bloods and watch the bloods go through acute kidney dysfunction
acute liver dysfunction and and I know the old neighbor's got the weed whacker
sorry about that I wasn't sure if you could hear it but he was going for it with the weed whacker
was he no it wasn't a problem but um but yes and and we're throwing immediately into
premature menopause so a lot of massive body changes six months after that such severe I
couldn't function I was I was severe chronic fatigue syndrome but the biggest problem was
was severe brain brain pain my brain was completely on fire like really on fire and um I had a PET
scan done six months afterwards which which they reported they didn't even have to run it through
the algorithms they eyeballed it and came and spoke to me and said it was like early onset
Alzheimer's disease either that or it's still acute chemical poisoning either way
it the effect on my brain was the same as Alzheimer's disease obviously I don't have that
now you know um so so I know what it is to to literally have to come out of out of and that's
that's one of my my three sort of death experiences the chemical one um that's probably the one that
took the hardest the longest to to pull out of because it left me with a severe what we call
neurocognitive chronic fatigue syndrome so um yeah a long way out of that affected my immune
system affected my my eyes affected I had an unbelievable I call the kids used to call it
the octopus rash this horrible rash all over my chest and body is the body the immune system in
my body my skin was reacting to the chemicals it was a long long difficult ride out but but
God is faithful God's gracious we you know we apply his rules we we use what he's got in his
creation and and it works you know and so that was some of the for you what were some of the
main keys of what did you incorporate into your daily rhythm into your life in order to come back
from what people said initially you're just going to go into kidney failure and die and then after
that they said okay well you've got Alzheimer's uh and what did you implement in your world as a
lifestyle well I was already yeah I mean I was already doing doing things pretty solidly the
right way anyway uh otherwise I would have died the second that you know within a day or two those
chemicals hitting so I was already you know pretty pretty clean but certainly the the extra bits that
I had to push into I started getting I couldn't do it myself but I I had people come in and make for
me a big regular uh juice with with and the key ingredients for that beetroot which clears your
blood celery which is a diuretic detox clearing so the and ginger which is your gut and so works
with the other things so those were your key three things a little bit of carrot to make it taste
better um so carrot celery no no apple and sweet yeah you had people come in because you said you
couldn't do that why couldn't you do that were you laid out I could oh yeah I I could be I could
literally I would not let myself stay in bed I was
refused to do that.
But we were in a split-level, virtually two-story house.
And so I'd literally have to bum shuffle down the steps
and bum shuffle myself out to the balcony.
We had a balcony where I had fresh air
was overlooking a backyard salt fountain pool thing.
And I just lived there because I couldn't do much else.
I was forced to the next step.
I guess it was months.
How long were you in there?
Months?
Months.
It's all right to call it the bum shuffle phase?
Yeah, the bum shuffle phase was months.
But again, as I said, I refused to let myself
stay in that state.
Yeah, and or to stay still.
So I used to be a swimmer anyway.
So I would actually, I thought, okay, let's try the water.
And so I would kind of bum shuffle myself.
My pool was a salt chlorinated pool, minimal chlorine.
In fact, we tried to run virtually no chlorine.
It was heavily salted.
And I found that even if I could just get into there,
that made a little difference.
Just while I was in the water.
While I was in the water, I felt normal.
I felt okay.
And I thought, right, good.
So sure, it did only buy me five minutes after.
It didn't buy me long.
So as I got a bit stronger,
I then converted that to going down to the ocean.
I didn't live far from the ocean then.
Five minutes.
When I was safe enough to drive, which did take a while,
I then got myself down into the ocean.
And again, I found that in the water,
I would feel completely normal for while I was in the water.
And that effect would last for a little while afterwards.
And progressively that effect started lasting
longer and longer, but my head had to get in the salt water.
I had to put my head in the water
to shut down the brain inflammation.
So the super clean diet, the juicing,
I was taking truckloads of supplements.
There are key things that you need for brain inflammation
and chemical and so on.
So I was taking a lot of those.
Let me just chuck this out there.
So I mean, a couple of questions.
Were you on any pharmaceuticals in that time?
What were you-
Oh, absolutely none.
Not a one.
I've not been on a pharmaceutical medication.
Well, when I was in intensive care,
trying hard not to, making sure I didn't die
in intensive care, obviously in intensive care,
you can't avoid drugs.
But no, other than that, I've not had a pharmaceutical drug.
Oh, well, aspirin is a semi-pharmaceutical.
Aspirin is derived from white willow bark.
It's what we call a semi-synthetic.
But no, for years.
Okay, so this whole time you're doing it naturally.
Yeah.
You're doing it just-
Yeah.
Okay.
Like the juicing was a massive part of the process.
Mindset was a massive part of the process.
Mindset was absolutely key.
Yeah.
I mean, I think that's always gonna be the foundation
of anything, isn't it?
Because without a mindset,
your mindset's gonna determine every single action
that you take, whether it's gonna be positive or negative.
So interesting though, just about supplements,
because people always talk about,
oh, supplements are expensive.
And sometimes supplements are expensive,
but for you, what were they the difference between?
You know, like when you were choosing supplements
and whatever you had to pay for supplements,
what were you choosing between?
Well, for me, the bottom line thing was,
again, remembering I was already an experienced clinician.
I'd already helped a lot of people
out of chronic fatigue syndrome.
In fact, I'd been through it myself once before already.
I know the value of these things.
So kind of wasn't a choice of that or not.
It was simply a case of, I have to get my health back.
I was a sole supporting parent, mom with three young children.
I had to get my health back.
I had to be there for my kids.
I had to be able to be earning.
So, you know, it was a no-brainer.
It had to be done.
So the pharmaceuticals, there is no, in standard medicine,
there is no treatment, no cure for chronic fatigue syndrome.
There was nothing that could be offered me.
You know, and I know in my medical hat,
you know, I know that to be the case.
So this was the option.
This was the way to go.
And so I threw at it everything I could throw at it.
The other baseline thing that, again, kind of doesn't cost,
so coming back to the kind of the,
so that's why I started with the kind of
not so much cost stuff.
I went and learned how,
so we've got a lot of studies into movement
and a lot of studies around things like Tai Chi and Qi Gong.
Now, of course, a lot of Christians
don't want to touch that
because of the background spiritual stuff
that it's, that has come from.
But you don't have to evoke that.
After all, God is the one.
created movement and the breath of life that we're breathing in is God's breath of life. We just have
to make sure that's what we're asking. So I actually employed a Qi Gong master and because I wasn't
well enough to go to classes, I couldn't physically get there, I couldn't stand around and wait, I
couldn't do all of that. So I employed a Qi Gong master and I picked that one little window of
time of day where I figured I'd have the best chance so I'd actually be functional. I'd have
to break through stuff and usually by about two or three I'd get a window or two that of hour or
two that I could use. So I employed him in that time frame and had, I forget how many lessons,
but enough for me because I'm an ex-dancer so I know how to move. So enough lessons for me to
learn the movements and then I just did it myself in my own time. So movement, the ocean,
obviously pure clean water, organic food, vegetable juicing and that was kind of the,
you know, and very clearly, absolutely mindset. I had to work so hard because your mind, my whole
body was screaming at me, pain, pain, pain, this is hopeless, this is useless, you can't even move,
how are you going to provide for your children? There's no hope for this. That's what my whole
system was screaming at me. But I had to choose for myself in a place that said, no, sure I feel
like this right now, but every day in every way I'm getting better and better. I am coming out of
this, I'm going to come out of this. And coming out of anything like that is always, as I'm always
saying to my patients, it's never just a straight road up, never ever, ever just a straight road up.
It'll be up, thump, up, thump. But each one of those dips that we go through are not as deep
or as wide as they were before. So you find you come out to a better level than you were.
And so it's the progressive upward journey. So yeah, a long process. And there are still
issues from that I have to make sure I still keep covered. I watch that don't come back to bite me.
Absolutely. Now, if you'd gone to a regular doctor when you're at that point,
say when you're in that space of chronic fatigue and you could barely get out of bed,
if you'd gone to a regular doctor, what would they have said to you? And what would their
prognosis have been?
They would have just, I would have been given painkillers for the headaches. I would have been
given an antidepressant too, because it's the other thing that happens as a secondary effect
when your energy levels are so low is that the mind gets depressed. They would have given me
an antidepressant to stop the depression. And there would have been no hope for recovery basically.
Anything for the chronic fatigue? Can they give you anything?
They can't. As I said, it'll be just if the body's aching too much, you take small painkillers for
the pain and you have an antidepressant. And that's pretty much about it.
And then you just get chucked on the pile of people who are going to, there's no hope for you.
And I mean, in your practice, how often do you get people who've just been chewed up and spat
out by the medical system that has a pretty narrow playbook and they've just been chewed up,
spat out. They didn't feel like, I mean, my sisters, for example, had endometriosis and they
were forever being told that it was in their head. Just like they spent their whole life
going to specialists and forever being told this is just in your head and just forever being
mistreated and rudely abused by doctors when they said, Hey, I know there's something going on. This
is not in my head. And the doctor looked at them like they were crazy and said, this is all in your
head. And they, until they eventually found a specialist in that area who was on it, this is
what's going on. But how often are you finding people who just can't be treated by the narrow
playbook? All the time. Every second patient, if not almost every patient, it is the usual story,
sadly. And as you say, it's largely because the whole training of the medical profession is geared
around, well, let's find what your symptoms, what box the symptoms fit in, what's the pharmaceutical
that fits that box? And so if we can't particularly find another box, will you go in the
psychogenic box as in it's all in your head, as in it's made up. And so we'll give you an
antidepressant or a drug for the psychogenic symptoms. Mind you, I'm often saying to my
patients, well, yes, it is in your head, but that doesn't mean you've made it up. It's in your head
because your brain's inflamed because we've got more and more people now who are getting brain
inflammation and actual brain function. So yes, for them, it is in their head, but they're not
imagining it. So...
Yeah, it's a very real problem, a very real issue and so that's why we have to come back
and we have to look at what are the ways that we can both, not just treat things when they
happen but do a much better job of improving our background health and our background capacity
so that if something does happen we recover quicker and faster and more completely.
Absolutely.
So it's always going to be key whether you're in great health or in poor health to be mastering
a rhythm that's going to produce divine health because you're right, a health blindside can
come at any moment just like you had, you know like out of nowhere a chemical explosion
goes off in your face and if it hadn't been for the fact that you'd been building your
life on a rhythm of divine health, that could have been very well been the end of you.
Yeah, well that was the devil's plan no doubt, I mean you know.
So for just, I mean there might be people listening now or people who are listening
in the future to this, who have been treated up, spat out, they feel like there's no hope
for them, they're in that place where they're kind of like ah man I've got this issue, I've
got this injury, I've got this illness, I don't think it's ever going away.
What would you say, like is it possible, is there a solution for the people who've been
thrown on the heap?
You know there is always hope.
I'm at that stage, well I can't really say my career now because legally, strictly speaking
I can't treat people, doesn't mean I can't advise but I can't treat people anymore, but
I'm at that stage where I really believe that there's not a single condition, no matter
what it is, that we can't significantly impact on, even if we can't cure it, mind you God
of course can heal anything.
Some people need a full on creative miracle and that's in the hands of the Lord.
And that's cool as well, actually tomorrow we have a healing meeting as well with Matt
Lansdowne who, it's going to be pretty exciting hearing some of his stories and for those
who do need a miracle then that's going to be a great space to come.
Tomorrow we're going to have a whole bunch of the supernatural action going on as well
so if you need a miracle, well then hey, we deal in miracles too, that's the kingdom.
And if you're just in a place where you've been thrown out by the medical crew, you're
saying that pretty much anything can be treated in some way.
Yeah, absolutely, I totally, through both the intensity of my experiences, my own personal
health experiences as I should have been killed a number of times, but also what I have seen
and been able to pull patients out of.
Time can be a limit, if they're facing an operation, an urgent operation, it's kind
of like, well, okay, we've got to buy, we need a bit of time.
Certainly, surgery is irreversible, people need to bear that in mind.
If you're looking at surgery as your solution for something, bear in mind it is irreversible.
If something's chopped out, we can't put it back in.
If something is cut and altered and put in another way, it's very, very hard to repair
or alter what happens at surgery, so that has to be an absolute, and there are places
for it, I'm not going to say there aren't, but that has to be an absolute last ditch.
Not a first port of call, as it often is in our modern society, that should be last ditch,
we do all we can first, and there's so much you can do.
Fantastic.
All right, hey, well, thanks very much for that, and we're looking forward to, first
up tomorrow, hearing from Jana, and that's a really phenomenal story of just how God
brought their family back from the brink of total dysfunction, it's going to be really
amazing hearing the process, hearing the journey, and what worked for them, and you're going
to hear over the next several days a whole lot of stories of what's been working for
people to bring them massive transformation in health, recovery from injuries, bring them
back from the brink of total dysfunction and chaos in the health space of their life, so
it's going to be a really exciting time together, so I look forward to seeing you guys in the
Health Summit, I'll drop the link to jump on board for the Health Summit in the description
of this video once we wrap it up, and we'll look forward to seeing a bunch of you as we
go live tomorrow, 10am New Zealand time for the first one, and then watch your emails,
we've got 10 sessions over 4 days, and when you click the link that I drop in the description
in just a moment, if you're watching this in the future it'll already be there, but
when you click the link there you can see when the
when the sessions are on and also just watch your emails because I'll send you the links to jump on
board for all the sessions. Most of them will be streaming here on Facebook as well but we will
have some of the content restricted to some private access because it won't be well received
by Facebook world so we'll just in terms of the algorithms won't let us say some of the things
we want to say so some of it will be private so you watch this space and we're going to have a
really really fantastic time together. Any closing words Professor Robin as we wrap it up?
Looking forward to this and kicking off new things for hopefully a lot of people
so blessings yeah. Oh hey let me quickly do a screen share just to if you haven't seen
this is the crew oh hang on let me get a I got another image let me get another image that's
better there we go here's my desktop all busy from prepping the summit here we go so this is
the crew all right so Professor Robin and Jana and I live tomorrow and then we've got a healing
meeting with Matt at 1pm New Zealand time tomorrow and then Professor Robin's live
doing a one-on-one session with you guys just just herself with her three key points to the
series and then we've got a whole bunch of other goodness we've got Rani we've got Daniel and
Sabrina we've got Gabriel and we've got Joseph it's going to be fantastic and I look forward
to sharing this beautiful adventure with all of you guys so have a wonderful day everyone
and we'll see you in the summit tomorrow yeah blessing bye bye guys