there we are just about to admit these people into the zoom room
the moment how's your trip you haven't gone and picked the kids up yet
dropped the stuff off yes yeah yeah look at you babe look at you
when did you get your eyebrows done last
eight
yeah
which is not planning on being around so we have to find another time to find another photographer
because i feel like otherwise it's getting way too close
you can know the photographer you could get around here babe
you could probably get a photographer easier than anything else yeah i mean
when i thought we could do it on thursday night and stuff but
love and joel will be traveling down here then won't they be traveling on i think
friday friday yeah yeah so i don't know
all right sleep babe i'll go live
so
once it's on
so
Hey, hey, Finn. How you doing? Welcome, welcome.
you
Can you hear me? Yes. Can you hear me okay? Sweet. Yeah. Yeah. I can't hear any of you
guys. That's why. I think I was muted. What's happening? We're waiting for you to say something.
Yeah. Well, hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Good to have you guys here. Good to hear from
you too. Yeah. Deborah, how you doing? I'm good. Thank you. Nice to meet you. Yeah. Great
to connect. Where are you today, Deborah? I live near Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Oh,
very cool. You guys are hitting headlines at the moment with all your truckies. Yes,
it's wonderful. Finally, some unity and great things happening, I hope. Yeah, absolutely.
There's definitely a pretty phenomenal moment happening there. Yeah. Who would have thought
God would use the truckers to make this happen? It's incredible. Yeah. Very cool. Matthew,
good to see you. Yeah, it's good to see you. Having a whole lot of truckies come together
is like having a whole lot of bikers come together, isn't it? I remember when the bikers
got behind Trump and had big bike rallies and had Trump meetings. Very cool. Very cool.
Aaron, how are you doing? Great, mate. I'm just across the ditch in Australia. How are
you? Yeah, real good. Real good. What's happening? Whereabouts in Aussie? I am about an hour
and a half north of Sydney, so Central Coast, New South Wales. Cool, man. And what's happening
for you there today? Just in the process of getting a business launched. Yeah. Online
coaching business for mums and dads in business. Oh, fantastic. Going through some stuff with
that. I don't even know how we connected, but I thought, hey, this sounds great. I better
Thanks for your emails. That's great. So where are you at in the launch of the business?
Well, literally just working out my landing page, a few issues to do with that so I can
get it out there and just reach out to my audience. Cool, man. So yeah, interesting
times. Yeah, that's great. What are you building it on? Platform, you mean? Yeah. Platform,
I'm building it on group funnels or group pages. Yeah. So, yep, that's where it's going
out to. And then I'll actually launch it to America first is what I'm looking at doing.
Yeah. And then do some possibly do some business here in Australia, but probably look to do
America first. See how we go. America's 11 o'clock at night to four o'clock in the afternoon.
That's the American timetable. Yes, I'm very, I've been pretty connected with America for
a while, so I'm very aware of their of their time differences. Yeah. Well, it saves you
on a lot of 3 a.m. morning. If I ever got to do late at night or in the afternoon after
12 o'clock midday. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. Wendy, good to see you. Even Dorcas. Great
to see you guys. Sharon, hello. Justine, good to see you. Sharon, what's happening for you
today? Am I on? Yeah. Oh, OK. I'm just trying to catch up on a whole heap of things. I don't
know if you've heard that in Australia, they've got the convoy to Canberra. So that's been
excited. Yeah. They started started in Ontario going to Ottawa in Canberra. So that was really
cool. And it looked like Australia wasn't doing anything. And then all of a sudden it's
just growing. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's very cool. Great to see. And I want to tell everyone
whereabouts you are.
Well, at the moment, I'm back in Lightning Ridge, which is north-western New South Wales,
so kind of pushing it towards the desert.
Yeah.
It is a great place to live.
That's a good name.
And what do you guys do out there?
Just so you know.
The main thing, I guess, is open mining at the moment, so that's my, Greg's work, so
yeah.
Very cool.
Well, it's great to have you joining us.
Diane, good to see you.
We've got Wairoa and Suresh.
Good to see you guys, too.
Hey, Dorcas, why don't you say hello?
And who else?
Sharon, you're doing the hard things.
Who else is doing the hard things challenge?
Hello.
Who was that?
Shirley, welcome.
Good to have you there.
Thank you.
And Dorcas, we lost you there, but how are you doing, Dorcas?
I'm very concerned about this, and I'm very upset because I'm a pensioner.
I was over the weekend about how I was going to pay this amount.
Who's that?
I'm just trying to figure out which voices.
It's late Friday.
Couldn't contact anybody.
So I stewed about it all weekend, and I've run you today.
It's taken me ages to get onto someone to speak to, and the whole thing has just been
incredibly stressful.
And I want it looked into.
I want to know how it happened, why it happened, whether this has come through council.
Do you think Diane might be on a call?
You might want to be.
Is that Diane speaking?
I can't figure out who's actually speaking.
Is that you, Diane?
Yeah, that was Diane speaking.
Okay.
I couldn't tell from mine.
Just mute.
I'm not sure if that was for us or not.
Yeah, that's right.
We've got plenty of support there to help people out if they're struggling with us,
but I don't know if it sounded like she was trying to talk to me or not.
Cool.
So anyway, hard things.
Shirley, you're doing the hard things as well.
Evan, you're doing hard things.
Who else is doing the hard things?
Matarina, you are.
Be cool to just chat and hear how you guys are finding that adventure.
Yeah, well, I'm rather enjoying it.
Benji, for me, I guess it's having your coaching, if you like.
That has been really good.
Helps to keep focused.
And, yeah, some things are hard, some things not so hard,
but it's probably the best.
I've tried a few different things, especially going into the new year before,
and it's quite easy to lose focus,
but I find with what we're doing here with your whole system,
it's very much easier to keep focused on this,
and I really like that.
Cool.
Well, before we get too far into it,
it would be great to have Debra.
Why don't you pray for us, Debra?
Be fantastic, and then we'll keep on chatting.
Me?
Yeah, release some of that good Toronto fire on everyone.
Oh, dear.
Well, Lord Jesus, we just thank you for this Zoom call.
This is my first Zoom call,
and I haven't really gotten into this whole program yet.
I had a little trouble starting, but anyway,
thank you, Lord, for Benji and this whole program
that I kind of want to get going at,
and I just pray, Father God, that you would lead us and guide us
by your Holy Spirit.
We thank you for Benji and this program,
and I want to learn more about it, and, Lord,
we need you desperately in these times of uncertainty
and all these things that are going on worldwide, Lord.
A lot of us are awake, and a lot of us aren't,
and we just pray, Holy Spirit, that you would bring those
that are in the darkness into the light,
and we just thank you that you have people like Benji
and his company that are drawing us in.
people closer to you by his, the tools that he has learned, I'm
sure and passing it on to others. So we hope to all learn
and grow together. In Jesus mighty name. We thank you,
Father. Amen.
Amen. Very cool. Very cool. Is it Dundee?
Yep, it's Dundee.
Dundee. Welcome, mate. Great to have you.
Thank you.
That's cool. Um, Shirley, you're there. Why don't you say hi,
Shirley?
Not sure if she can hear us. But um, hey, how about I share a
little thought?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, you can. Oh, great. Tell us how you're doing, Shirley.
I'm doing well. My biggest challenge is doing my daily
posting and a lot of times I need to put the postings
several at one time because I'm a day behind you guys.
Yeah.
Because the day is your Monday and this is my Sunday.
Yeah. And yeah, so but we're about to you, Shirley.
Baltimore, Maryland.
Oh, come on. Very cool. Very cool. Yeah, I mean, we've got a
few with with the hard things challenge. We got a few people
jumping on at various stages. People can start any time. So
it's no worries what what day you're at.
Okay.
Yeah. But loving seeing loving seeing your posts there. Is
there something that you're personally enjoying out of the
hard things challenge so far?
Well, with me, I'm pretty much by, I guess, focused by order.
And I enjoy, you know, each day. I'm following the readings and
the prayer and everything. First thing in the, you know, during
during the day. So that I really and I really have enjoyed that.
Cool. That's great. Um, all right, guys, let me check in. Let
me check a crazy idea out there for you. Right? Let me check a
crazy idea out there and then just see, see what you guys
think about it. And I actually I'll give you Aaron, you might
be interested in this from the 18th through the ninth through
the 20th of February. And so that's, that's gonna be Pacific
time, but we're going to be running a kingdom business
summit, which is going to be a lot of fun. And we're going to
have three streams of focus in the summit. So stream number one
will be so that the summits kingdom business, the kingdom
business summit, stream number one or focus number one is how
kingdom business shapes culture. Here's an interesting thought
for you. Did you know that on the planet, when it comes to
financial entities of the top 200, you know, most wealthy
financial entities on the planet, only 47 of them are
nations, the rest of private companies, or the rest of
companies? Well, big deal, right? Because we think, you
know, we think companies, that's where all the money is. But
actually companies, sorry, countries, we think countries is
where the money is, you know, like, if you're, if you're a
whole country, surely, you know, like, surely, that's where the
money is. But actually, they only, they only make up 25% of
the top wealthiest, you know, 200 financial entities. So we're
talking about how kingdom business shapes culture. And
we'll be talking about how to create at least seven income
streams. So wealth creation, how do you create wealth? How do you
create multiple streams of income? And then the third one
is, the third focus is going to be stewardship. So financial
structures, financial principles, and, you know, like
all sorts of different things that are that are coming out
now, like new economies that are emerging, crypto things that are
emerging banking and insurance, and how they actually all come
together to actually create the structures that people live
inside of the economies and the whole financial structure. So
it's gonna be a really cool, cool summit, we've got some
amazing speakers from all around the world on, you know, that are
doing pretty phenomenal things in this area. So it's gonna be
it's gonna be a blast. So that's something fun to watch, watch
for 18th to 20th. But here's my here's a little here's a little
thought that's been running through my head. Love to chuck
this out to you guys and see what you think. First of all,
give me an agree or disagree. If you if you agree that
when Jesus said in Matthew 28, 19,
go therefore and make disciples of all nations.
Give me an agree if you think he was serious
or a disagree if you think he was joking.
Definitely agree.
Totally, you fully agree that Jesus actually meant
that he was serious when he said,
go therefore and make disciples of all nations.
And then he said, baptizing them in the name
of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit
and teaching them to obey everything
that I have commanded you and surely I'm with you
always to the very end of the age.
Carol, great to see you.
I've just flown in.
Fantastic, great to have you.
So, just again, agree or disagree.
If you think Jesus was serious, drop an agree in the chat
or just wherever you are, say agree.
If you think he was joking, say disagree.
Yeah, agree, you think he was serious?
I agree, but I also agree it's not just all nations,
like people pull apart the sheep and the goats,
parable and say that they're nations.
Jesus was talking to individuals there,
not just go and disciple all nations,
everyone in every nation, not so much just a nation,
but individuals in the nations.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
That's inclusive of that.
Actually, it reminds me of just this top-down
or bottom-up approach that you can have
when you're shaping culture.
You can have a top-down or a bottom-up.
Now, both are important.
It's not an either-or, you want both.
You want both.
So a bottom-up is an amazing type of ministry,
but that might be someone who's working the coalface
looking after orphans.
That's a bottom-up ministry, right?
So from the bottom of the,
it's not trying to denigrate
or speak down on orphans or anything.
I'm just saying that in terms of cultural influences,
that's usually the lower part.
I've just got someone getting some static in here.
I think it might be a couple of people
who are just kind of like almost stuck in a twilight zone.
I think they might be creating some static.
I'm just gonna hit mute all for a second,
see if I can cut that static out.
Sweet.
So if you want to chat, just unmute,
but I think we had some people
that were just creating some static there.
A bottom-up is, yeah, so it's an influence that,
like churches oftentimes will be a bottom-up.
Versus, so churches or an orphanage
or a youth ministry, really amazing ministries,
like beautiful, love it.
You're not trying to denigrate that
or speak down on that at all.
That's amazing ministry,
but then you've also got top-down
and both are so essential.
You can't diminish the significance of either.
And top-down is when you actually take the leading role
in your sphere of influence, right?
So you take the leading role in a sphere of influence,
and then as a result of having a top-down influence,
rather than just influencing us,
like the few around you actually influence
over a whole nation
or you influence over a whole people group
or you influence over a whole sphere of influence.
So top-down, bottom-up,
that just reminded me of that,
like the ethnos or making disciples of all nations.
The nation's word is ethnos,
so it also means people groups.
So it's not just geographical, it's people groups,
but it's actually making disciples
of everything under the sun
and bringing that into that place.
Where actually, if you look at that,
baptizing them in the name of the Father,
the Son, and the Holy Spirit,
it's really the name,
and I think most of you guys will be onto this,
but the name when you're thinking about a Hebrew mindset
is the nature.
So it's really saying, hey, bring entire nations,
bring the planet into alignment
with the nature of the Trinity,
which is Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit.
It's bring the whole planet into alignment
with the divine dance,
which is an unbroken cycle of divine love.
It's that very atmosphere of heaven.
You say, hey, bring the whole planet
into alignment with the atmosphere of heaven.
So it's a pretty big mission,
no matter which way you look at it,
it's all a massive mission.
A question I've been just asking myself
and just wanted to just chuck out there as we start today,
this is the thought that I've been having,
is why is it that we so...
Why is it so rare to have a person that actually does Disciple Nations in the sense that why
is it so rare to have a person or a group of people that have so much impact in society
that they do bring a whole group of people or a whole region into alignment with the
atmosphere of heaven, just like the Great Commission calls us to.
And I think that there's a key for us in Ephesians 3.20, which is, it says, God is able to do
exceedingly abundantly, above and beyond all that we have ever did to ask, dream, pray,
think, or even imagine.
Now, if we're not aligned with Ephesians 3.20, we can never align with Matthew 28.19.
So Ephesians 3.20 is God's language, which is exceedingly abundantly above and beyond
all that we've ever did to ask, dream, pray, think, or even imagine.
So that's the language that God's talking, and he's trying to talk to all of us in that
language.
And when you understand your destiny, you know, this is, I call, I say destiny is what
God saw when he unleashed his limitless power to dream the best for you.
So if you've come out of alignment with Ephesians 3.20, which would mean you've come into agreement
with a destiny that is lower than you shaping nations.
So let me ask you, have you got, are you fully persuaded that you, as an individual, are
going to shape the culture of nations?
Because if you're not, right, this is the thing, if you're not, then you're not actually
talking God's language.
Because God's language is Ephesians 3.20, which, where he is fully persuaded that he
is able to partner with you to shape nations.
God is fully persuaded that he is able to partner with you as an individual and shape
the course of history. God, there's no doubt in God's heart.
That's where all God's agreement is, is in that place, that he is able to partner with
you, that if you will collaborate with him, if you will learn to speak his language, if
you'll come into alignment with his heart, with his dreams, with his thoughts, if
you'll, you could, you know, you could say, you know, it's Romans 12.2 in progress as
well, which is be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
It's the renewed mind.
See, the renewed mind is in alignment with Ephesians 3.20.
So if you're not in a place where you're fully persuaded that God is able to use you
to shape the culture of nations, to shape the history of humanity, if you're not fully
persuaded that God is able to use that, that you can collaborate with God as an individual.
To shape the course of history, then you're not speaking his language, right, he wants to
speak to you in that Ephesians 3.20 language, but you can only actually hear and
interpret and understand that language if you first speak the language of the renewed
mind, right?
The language of the renewed mind is the language of Ephesians 3.20.
And when you when you actually renew your mind, you can you actually are able to
translate what God's saying like never before.
And when you can actually start to translate what God is saying to you to the point where
you don't just go like get it on a head level, but at the very core of your being body, soul
and spirit, you're in alignment and you're fully persuaded that just if it was just you
and God and there were no Christians left on the planet, that you could flip the script on
the entire planet. Because he wants to collaborate with you.
God wants to strategize with you.
God sees you as the government of God and God sees you as, you know, there's
no you're not a second class representative of the king.
You're not a second class son or a second class daughter, your first class, your five
star, you're at the top of the food chain, you're an apex predator in the kingdom.
There isn't there isn't a higher there isn't a higher level in the kingdom than you
are. All there is, is how how much agreement you've placed with that reality.
If you've placed your agreement with that reality, that God's able to use you to
collaborate with you to shape the course of history, if your agreement is with him,
that's what will determine, you know, how much you participate in that.
Now, we've all got individual.
giftings and individual areas and spheres of influence and directions that God wants to take
us. But that doesn't mean that any of our individuality translates into inadequacy.
You know, like people use their individuality as a justification to say, Oh, God's just got
me for this. No, no, God's got you here on the planet to disciple nations.
And the only reason you're not going to be, you know, you're not going to be participating in
that process of collaborating with heaven to disciple nations if you can't understand Ephesians
320. But when you renew your mind, and that's a process and a journey that we want to be on,
but we don't want to be half-hearted about that journey. We want to be burning hearts
on that process of renewing our minds. We're going to flip. If a renewed mind is the key to
being able to speak the language of Ephesians 320, and to be able to dream with God,
then all my focus should be on this process of renewing my mind. Because as I renew my mind,
I unlock my destiny. I unlock this whole world where I start to collaborate with God to disciple
nations. Sweet. Any thoughts on that, guys? I've got a thought on Ephesians 320. Yeah.
For years, I edited a book. For 10 years, I edited the book and I was going to publish it.
It was set in the red light district of Sydney. God eventually, Jesus actually told me to throw
it out and said it was too dark of a novel. And he said, if you want to preach in the future,
you need to throw this out. And so I threw it out. I thought that was going to launch my ministry,
this book. Now I've gone on and written 70 books. And you can apply Ephesians 320. Here's a guy
who was going to launch his ministry on one book. Now he's got 70. I've exceedingly and abundantly
done more than you could even ask or think. So I think Ephesians 320 can be something progressive
in a person's life. They can go from glory to glory. They can go from one level of glory to
the next. You know, the first time that you lit up with glory may surprise you. But the next time
you lit up with glory, you see the same reactions of people and you start to expect it and pray
yourself into it. So I think Ephesians 320 can progressively get bigger and bigger.
Absolutely. Absolutely. And that's a massive key in the kingdom as well as stewardship.
You know, when you steward, heaven responds. How about you guys? Any thoughts on that?
Yeah, jump in there. Open mic.
We've got two beautiful ladies from Australia, Chataway ladies.
You go first.
I'm just thinking about humility and what is humility? And humility is agreeing with God's
word. That's all you need to do. What his word says, I agree with. Jesus did nothing unless he
saw the father do it or heard the father do it. Total agreement. That is total humility.
Come on. You got it.
And so whatever he says, that's what we do.
That's wild. I love it.
Thanks, Carol.
Sharon, jump in there.
Trying. I like what you said about it can be a progressive thing because I have struggled to
see myself doing something big. I want to work for one on one, those kind of things. And I know
that's me and struggling to see something bigger. But I do have this little freedom group, if you
want to call it that, just a sovereignty meetup we started as in town. So only a small group. And
just as I was sitting there the other day, I don't know whether it's the triggers that we've
been practicing or what it was, but it was just that hint that, Sharon, don't worry about this.
It doesn't matter if there's less people today. It's what God can do. And we don't know what he's
going to do from the little bits that we start. So, yeah. So thank you. Thanks.
sharing welcome that's great appreciate that uh yes i'd like to add to that yeah jump in there
as you were sharing benji i got all my spirit just um came alive because um one of my favorite
verses is in isaiah 9 verse 6 where it says you know for unto us a child is born unto us
a son is given and of and um it talks about how of the increase of his government there
shall be no end and to me um as i've been asking god what does his government look like on the
earth he wants our influence to widen and he wants us to learn so he's been teaching me to
learn to walk in authority in the small things and it's kind of growing out i wouldn't say i've
i haven't reached the pinnacle but i know that i'm on my way and and the hard things challenge
has catapulted me faster than other things other kinds of devotions i've tried to have and um
the only thing is when i go away for the weekend like i did on the weekend i tend to stop so i've
got to learn to take the hard things challenges and other people's environment i find it a bit
trickier to do yeah it is yeah and in general the hard things challenge is not that difficult
where the where the challenge is is in the consistency but that's that's where the growth is
you know like that's where that's where the real sweet spot is is when it's difficult
that you hold that you hold that consistency that's the sweet spot of it is that in general
it's not actually designed to be a really impossible set of tasks to accomplish in a day
but it's you know like it's keeping that rhythm and here's here's something you know i just god's
just been really speaking to me so much about sacred rhythms lately but if you change your
rhythm you change your reality you know it doesn't matter what you what it doesn't matter what
transformation you want to see in your world the answer is change your rhythm if there's a reality
that you want to see shift in your world you can do that you just need to figure out what rhythm you
need to change in your daily in your daily in your daily set of rhythms because there's a sacred
rhythm that will produce the sacred reality and so whatever reality is that you're like man i really
want to see this reality manifest in my life well you can you just figure out what rhythm you need
to adjust that's right uh so here's let me talk about a vision again from a different
slightly different approach your your vision comes from your values all right
say that with me your vision comes from your vision comes from values all right so
who would say that their value is love
yep yep everyone's happy to say that yep my vision my value love would be my value
there'll be a foundational value for all of us okay so do you think that love
would celebrate financial structures and institutions on the planet that are designed
on the planet that are designed to enslave people
right do you think that love would celebrate financial institutions and structures on the
planet that hoard trillions of dollars but won't won't drill wells for kids who have no water
but instead of instead of drilling a few wells with their trillions of dollars they watch hundreds
of thousands millions of kids die every year because they don't have good water that's right
is that does is that what love looks like no okay so a vision is the solution to a problem
now here's here's what one of our big issues is is that we don't actually realize because we haven't
taken stock of the planet you know we haven't actually taken stock of the planet and haven't
realized that god's put you as the government of god which means it's your it's your issue
you are the government of god in the earth right correct uh you're you're the ambassadors of the
kingdom in the earth uh you're supposed to have taken stock of this planet and what's unfolding
here because you're you're here to steward what's unfolding on the planet now uh
you're so we'll just carry on this thought so actually what happens is without realizing it
right because we haven't fully taken stock
and we haven't fully done the maths on what it means to be the government of God or what it
means to be royal sons and daughters what it means to be a part of the family of you know like the
royal family of the universe sometimes because we haven't taken full stock of who we really are
we don't realize oh flip I'm the solution from heaven you have to you hit what what's
something that's really important is to get rid of every thought
in your mind that endorses inadequacy that suggests that you can't be the solution
he tells me I am he tells me I am you are the solution yes you are yeah 100 you are the
solution
so let's picture let's kind of like just look at the state of affairs we've got millions of
Christians around the world who's all who would all say hey love is my primary value system and
they'd say they'd all say no love's not okay with you know that scenario of you know millions of
kids dying and you know financial structures that you know cause poverty and you know like
there'd be heaps of things that we'd say hey love's not okay with that and love's not okay
with that but no one actually taking responsibility so why is it that you've got millions of Christians
living outside of their value system without even realizing it because because God is a
God money is a God this is my value system this one here yeah so yeah so we're talking about they
don't they don't know who they are boom brook hitting it on the nail we don't know who we are
so listen I think that one of the biggest issues that we're struggling with here is uh is inadequacy
you know is agreement with inadequacy that for some reason you can't change the financial
structures on the earth yeah what's also some for some reason you're irrelevant or for some
reason you're insignificant for some reason you're not enough for some reason you're not
the one for some reason this isn't the time for some reason this isn't the place for some
you we come and we come into agreement with all of these things that suggest it's not possible
and and a lot of that we do subconsciously so instead of even challenging it we just
reconstruct mindsets that make us comfortable to live with what we've got
so we create subconsciously without even necessarily thinking about we create
uh we create mindsets and paradigms that justify us not
shifting the financial structures on the planet or justify us not doing you know not discipling
nations we we create these things but what we actually often don't realize is that that's not
the way the renewed mind thinks that's right you know it's actually not laziness that's not the
language of the language of of ephesians 320 where god says you know it says god is able to do
exceedingly abundantly above and beyond all that you have ever dared to ask dream pray think or
that's the language that god wants to speak to us all the time he wants to speak to us in that
language all the time but that's a really mature language in the spirit most people haven't matured
enough in the spirit to actually even interpret what god's saying so they might hear some sound
but it doesn't mean anything you know like if someone's shouting at you from a distance and you
can't hear they're saying something but you just can't interpret exactly what it is they're saying
yeah you shrug your shoulders and move on you're like oh yeah i'm sure that guy looks like he's a
bit excited about something hey have a good time but once you do get the point once you do hear it
then it's just a little daunting right so then then we have a whole nother set of issues right
well uh it's
well the whole concept of it being daunting again is a mindset that
it's not renewed. Exactly. Yep. So what everything keeps on
coming back to over and over again, is the renewed mind.
Yeah. To the truth of our identity. That's what the
renewed mind is. The renewed mind is alignment. Yeah.
Yeah. And if you're holding up the Word of God, they're saying
that the Word of God is the answer. But there's also a
scripture in the Word of God that says the letter kills and
the Spirit gives life. So we need to correct revelation of
the Word of God to be renewing our minds to not what the dead
letter says, but the actual revelation of a verse. Benji's
obviously meditated on Ephesians 3.20 for about 10
years, because he's got it really deep into his spirit. But
I would say not more than 20% of Christians ever see that verse
fulfilled in their own life. That there's something that's
exceedingly and abundantly more than they'd ever think or
imagine actually happened to them. Let's be the group that
changes it. You can get Ephesians 3.20 happening every
year of your life and every week of your life and every
month of your life. If you watch Nancy Cohen, she's got that
happening every week of her life, every time she goes to a
conference, that's happening. And if you get it deep through
meditation, you get it deep in your spirit, then you can talk
like Benji that you can disciple a nation and he's got the tools
to actually do it. But God's a creative God and if we walk in
his image and our mind is renewed, he'll give us the
solutions and he'll give us the way to climb out of this pit
that we find ourselves in.
Yeah, that's interesting. I would actually suggest to you
that probably less than 1% of Christians ever step in there.
I was being kind.
I'd much rather embrace ruthless because it's a good reality
check that we need.
Yeah, I would say most Christians think that verse is
impossible and wouldn't even be thinking to make that happen.
Exactly right. But this is the problem is that the goodness of
God is so extreme, but it has a real demand on it. The goodness
of God is so extreme, but it requires extreme ownership. If
you ever want to walk in it. And I'd say that probably the
reality is that most pastors, like where we're getting our
mindsets from, not just the ones around today, I'm talking for
centuries. Most people's Christian mindsets, teachers,
whatever you want to call it, just the prevailing Christian
mindset has not been willing to embrace the price tag associated
with the renewed mind. Let me unpack that a little bit more.
I did a post recently that was basically attacking average, you
know, to me, there's this extraordinary promise in
Ephesians 320, that what God has called all of us to, without
exception, is absolutely phenomenal and extraordinary and
beyond what most of us, you know, that's that whole Ephesians
320, exceedingly abundantly above and beyond what we've ever
did to ask, dream, pray, think, or even imagine. So if that's
what we're all called to, and then 99% of us are living in
this place where we are just living the average life.
I'm talking about lots of us, and I'm talking about myself in
here as well, like people who love well, you know, like people
who are like great people. I'm not talking about people who I'm
talking about, you know, the best Christians that you know,
the loveliest people that you know. But if you actually bring
it back to this concept of rhythm defines a reality, right?
Average has a particular rhythm to it. And that's where the
price is going to be paid. And the process of renewing your
mind is
you're going to have to look at the average, look at the rhythm that your whole life has,
you know, revolves around a rhythm and the price tag to redefine your reality,
to renew your mind, the price tag is the rhythm.
And so what happens is most people, they don't want to take ownership for this.
So they get into a place where they just justify average.
They tell themselves whatever story they need to have to justify average,
protect their rhythm. And to me, it's so bizarre that we do this over and over because
the rhythm that we're protecting is the very rhythm that's producing the dysfunction that
we're living in. Yeah, that's true.
And we go around going, oh, and so when I posted, you know, a few weeks ago about,
hey, guys, it was pretty ruthless on average.
It was like, hey, you're like, don't, you know, like, don't embrace average.
You're like, let's burn average to the ground.
We had all these people protecting average. And I was like, oh, well, I'm average.
And I was like, hey, look, all you're doing is like justifying the dysfunction.
All you're doing is, you know, you're justifying, you're coming up with excuses
and you're basically broadcasting all the lies that you believe.
You're broadcasting all the lies that you believe that are the very reason why you're,
why you are living in average and why you aren't.
And and justifying average like, like, oh, no, this is actually what God has for me
because I'm different. It's like, you're not different.
You're just, you're just living a lie. And that lie is a lie of inadequacy.
You know, like that lie is not in alignment with the goodness of God and what the goodness of God
says over your life. The goodness of God speaks limitlessness over your life.
The enemy, the enemy doesn't need the occult. He's got plenty of pastors preaching average.
Yeah. And I came on in the midstream, so I'm not sure what was said, but just based on where I am
and what I've heard, I keep thinking about those who understood there was a man of God who said
there's going to be no rain and it did not rain. There was a man of God and said, we're going to
set the clock back. And it happened. And I think I described the word I keep hearing is like
in the fullness of time. And I believe the very reason we have a program like this on right now,
because the Lord has found a people who are ready and people who are, who have ears to hear the
revelatory word of what's going on, that we are joint heirs, co-creators, governors of this
planet, the universe, the cosmos. And the very fact that you're on here, that means that you're
desperate and there's a desperation and there's a wailing inside of you that you want the more of
God over and above that he has promised us into. And so I'm just encouraged because like I'm
jumping on a plane. I don't know because they tell me my niece is dying, but I know I'm going
to speak life and I'm just going to get on a plane and travel a couple of hours to go release that.
And I may go in the spirit, depends on how the Lord wants that done. But I'm just so ready now,
folks, because I'm tired of this foolishness of that. We just look like we've been beaten up,
but we have a mighty God. We have an awesome God and he will not do it without us. We're called
into this. Come on. Awesome. I love it. Heidi Baker says that the way you live in miracles is
you live a life that you need miracles to make it through the day.
Yeah. The way that she lives in the miraculous is she spends four hours, five hours on her face
every morning and then comes out and she can't face the day without miracles. She needs she
actually needs miracles to finish the day. Yeah, totally. No one no one reproduces food and makes
food multiply just for the fun of it. But they don't do it for a miracle. Jesus didn't do it
for a miracle. The people the people couldn't get home. The people were tired and the people
couldn't get home and he needed a miracle. So he did a miracle. And everyone searching after
miraculous, you know, unless you got intimacy with Jesus, the miraculous is going to get boring
for people. The miraculous can get boring and there's got to be something more.
And we're here for something more than laying hands on people and healing the sick.
We're here to reproduce something new on the earth.
You know, if the evil are taking over, well, the good men are going to rise up and take over the evil.
Because we can't have God's name dragged through the mud.
Where is your God? Where is your God?
And they have to see our God. Words alone can't do it.
It's not that we're chasing miracles and all, but the fact is that they're going to see the power of the cross.
And the word, what the Lord has said, he's going to do in and through a people.
And it's the honor we bring to our Lord.
Come on. True. Good stuff.
I've been on a journey. You've just reminded me through this kōrero, or this talk we're having.
I was going to write a teaching on the depths and the heights.
And I believe that for us to go higher, God wants us to go deeper.
And I've found that over the years I've been in the church culture, that a lot of the times we've consciously spoken the word of God over our soil.
But we haven't really tried to, we haven't always necessarily dealt with the root of what causes that fruit to grow in our lives.
Some of it is that the body hasn't always been taught from the pulpits of the churches.
It's actually speaking the word from the subconscious mind.
And that's where I found that the hard things challenge has helped me.
Now that I've done it several times, maybe half a dozen times, now when I read the word, it's starting to speak to me.
And so for me, it isn't just that the church has accepted Average.
It's because we're not really doing it from the subconscious part of our mind.
It's renewing the mind, but it's also the subconscious part of our mind.
That's the hard drive of the computer. That's where the programming has been done.
And for God to deprogram that, I'm not one of those people.
I've heard there are people where it's happened in an instant.
And my whole life's journey has always been incremental steps.
It's always been a process.
And what I do in the 13 Grateful Things Challenge is God makes me realize the process is necessary.
So yes, I had hoped that things would be underway by now.
Yes, I had hoped I'd be running or soaring on the wings of an eagle.
But the Lord's reminding me the process is so important.
And we have to be, as it says in the word, let patience have its perfect work.
So I have to be patient with the process I'm undergoing.
So that when I do achieve what you've been talking about, Benji, that I'm able to steward.
Because I haven't stewarded.
I've had a lot of wealth over the years, and I haven't stewarded it very well.
I haven't had the maturity to sustain it.
I haven't been able to go the long, long distance.
And so the Lord's got me in this process.
And I thought the value was in getting the affiliate marketing up and running.
And yes, I'm going to be going in a couple of months.
But the Lord's telling me the process is more important for now.
That's what I keep saying.
I want to go faster, God.
Why aren't I there yet?
But he's saying the process is so important.
And I think if churches cultivate process in their churches, man, the church would be what it's supposed to be today.
And that is what you've been saying, Benji, exceedingly, abundantly, more than we could ever hope for or imagine.
And so, yeah, just thought I'd say that.
Thanks, bud.
One time the Lord said to me in a prophecy, I taught a girl how to take dictation off God.
Like another way of prophesying rather than just saying things in the third person.
The first time she took dictation of God, she wrote me a prophecy, like this three-page prophecy.
And God was saying, you want to put this together and you want to put this together.
He said, but you can work out how to do that yourself.
And how am I supposed to get the glory if you think you can do it?
And I thought that was amazing of God speaking to me because I was thinking of putting together 10,000 people together in this group.
And God was saying, how can I get the glory if you think you can do it?
I can only get the glory if it's impossible.
And that's how God thinks, you know, he thinks with big numbers.
Yeah, very cool.
Carol, you were going to jump in there.
I was going to say, this is wonderful.
benji because i think these people i can hear that they're actually confronting average
and it is a process and it's beautiful because um god takes us step by step on that path and on
that journey and it's such a joy to hear that you're leading people to confront average and i
was just thinking about myself i was computer illiterate until god called me into business
several years well 20 odd years ago and he does things so simply he said how many keys are there
on the keyboard well i think it's about 101 or something on your computer um board he said but
i only want you to use three keys and i said oh okay he said escape enter and control
so we've got to escape the ways of the world enter into god ways and then we receive the
well we've got the authority but then we can use it by controlling things in the world his way
yeah very cool very cool but it's it's the fact that um these beautiful people and it is a journey
to confront average because you don't realize that you are actually entertaining average
you just think you're living life but but you um teaching us this way we're able to confront it
in in a way that's um very gentle and easy to understand so thank you for that
welcome welcome and we'll um we'll probably bring it in for a for a wrap up in a moment
goes pretty quick now but um bring it in for a wrap up in a moment uh just like
it's a thought to share with you and this is one of the big thing one of the reasons why i think
that churches and christians in general don't grow very quickly you know just the growth is
really really slow the growth is so slow that you know like we'll you know in a human a regular
human lifespan we'll never have a chance at renewing the mind because the growth is so slow
yeah the whole purpose of the hard things challenge is it's designed to create
a rhythm that produces exponential growth
and when it if you want for example if you want to just if you want to disciple someone if you
want to grow someone learning is not going to do it no just giving them lots of books to read
is not going to produce a renewed mind yeah but it's not actually learning and this is something
joseph wilson talked about when i interviewed him the other day it's the difference between
learning and training yeah you know for and you know if you're for example if you were
a sports person right and all you ever did is learnt about sport versus actually training
or it's a completely different dynamic and we talk about this a lot in church in the context of
you know um the hebrew mindset and the greek mindset the greek mindset it's okay to know
consciously about something the hebrew is to actually have intimacy and intimate knowledge
it's a similar concept the difference between learning and training and the church has gotten
into a rhythm of learning that produces incremental growth as opposed to a rhythm of
training that produces exponential growth and this is one of the reasons like one of the things that
we want to carry as a movement is raising royalty uh and we want to carry it like fire right it's
not because um you know we don't as a movement raising royalty is not about hey let's advance
raising royalty it's about hey let's advance the kingdom but the way that we're going to advance
the kingdom with exponential growth exponential progress is to help people shift the daily rhythm
in their life if you shift the sake if you if you find a sacred rhythm in your life it will produce
a sacred reality if all you're doing is training or learning in a way that produces incremental
growth you never have a chance of renewing your mind because you know you just don't have enough
time to do that that rhythm will never produce the renewed mind you have to find a sacred
rhythm that will produce a transformed renewed mind so i guess that's um i just wanted to
celebrate that with everyone who's jumping on board with the hard things challenge
there's a lot of there's a lot of spirituality a lot of science a lot of psychology a lot of
practicality and theology all wrapped up in the hard things challenge and that's
why it produces the exponential growth,
because it will help you hack your psychology,
hack your physiology, hack your chemicals,
hack your brain, hack your spirit,
hack your mind, hack your conscious,
your subconscious, your unconscious,
hack your physical system, body, soul, and spirit.
It's really, that's why it produces the exponential growth,
is because each piece is really strategic.
So if you haven't seen the,
is anyone here that doesn't know what I'm talking about
when I say the Hard Things Challenge,
or doesn't have access to it?
So you will watch your emails,
watch your emails for tomorrow.
Let me drop in here a link for you.
I'll drop a link in here right now,
so you can see it,
because basically it's 12 daily disciplines.
They're all really achievable,
and then there's three levels,
and we do it for 21 days.
Level one, 21 days, level two, 21 days,
level three, 21 days,
because it takes 21 days
to create a new neurological pathway in your brain.
Three sets of 21 days takes it from just being formed
to fully formed and embedded,
and you'll actually do a brain scan,
and you'll see the fact that you've actually created
a brand new physical pathway in your brain.
Let me just grab the link for you,
and I'll drop it in here,
so that you can jump on it if you want to.
Here we are.
Where are you in the 21 day cycle right now?
Me?
Oh yeah, it's designed so that you can start at any time.
So what we've got here for you,
so I'm just dropping it in the comments now.
There you go.
Oh, hang on.
To everyone.
There we go.
The way that it's worked is,
when you jump in there and you drop your email address,
I'll share my screen,
I'll show you what this looks like.
Share screen.
So if you jump on this,
if you want to jump on board with the Hard Things Challenge,
not that one.
Here we go.
You click on that link, it just takes you here.
Real simple, real simple landing page
that just talks you through
what the Hard Things Challenge is.
Real simple, a little bit about
who Raising Royalty is, our values.
You get some free stuff.
You can sign up and get a couple of free,
my books for free.
You get access to the Raising Royalty platform for free.
So you just drop your name and email address in there,
click Enroll.
When you do that, it'll start an automation for you.
So congratulations, here's what you need to do.
Go and check your emails
and you start a 21-day process there.
So you get 21 days of emails,
which each day it gives you,
it gives you all the stuff that you need,
all the downloads, checklists,
what the 21-day challenge is,
all that, you get all the handouts and things like that
so that you can understand it really easily
and links to all the videos that break it down.
And if you want, you can go deeper
and we've done a Rider Passage Challenge
that goes real deep on helping you understand
the full psychology of it.
Yeah, so let's just,
I'll say one thing, one thought about viral things
or movements that create a lot of impact
is that there's simplicity to them.
Yeah.
The more simple something is, the more it can spread.
And with the kingdom, if you want to really spread it,
you have to simplify what you're doing
so that in a sense it can be like,
it can spread like fire, like fire spreads,
fire is contagious because it's like,
there's like a simplicity to it.
So if you want to actually be able to spread like wildfire
and have a viral dynamic or a movement making capacity,
you have to simplify down what it is.
So really what the 21 Day Hard Things Challenge is about
is about simplifying a rhythm
and giving people a blueprint for a rhythm
and breaking down, hacking a rhythm to say,
hey, here's what it looks like on a daily basis
to establish a rhythm that will produce the renewed mind.
Mm-hmm.
That's good.
Sounds good.
Welcome.
Any last thoughts from anyone?
Welcome to jump in there.
We just wanted to kind of keep it about an hour or so.
um for today as a kind of chat but yeah drop in there any thoughts any open mic vibe for everyone
yep um benji with the 20 with the hard things challenge i was apparently posting in the wrong
place so i can't find those posts you want me to go back and pop them in no no don't worry about
that you know like it's you just just um that email will show you where you do it anyway but
i'll show you guys i've worked it out now it was pretty tricky the thing with the email right is
if you if you're getting the emails every single day it sends you a link for where the accountability
post goes that makes it easy that way or i was doing something funny on that one obviously
because it sort of vanished quickly weird oh you might have unsubscribed from it otherwise it would
coming but if you want to
they still are coming it's just that the post i couldn't find it afterwards
oh okay it's funny but if you want to get to look that's you that's you i was just um
chatting with your husband before there you are right there on the computer
we're just greg and i were just having a good yak before the call
oh there you go i was looking for a photo for him uh of him
so
here we are raising royalty so if you want to like just simplify the process
of where you find your accountability posts you just go here to guides from guides
um the divine health summit who enjoyed the summit
yeah it's great but it was great just saw little bits of that that was good cool this is the right
of passage challenge so that goes real deep into the all the psychology and like the bigger picture
uh behind the right of passage sorry the hard things challenge but otherwise you just come here
to the daily hard things challenge and you just click this button here which says see all the
posts and then you're going to see whatever day it is that you need to you want to drop your
accountability on just go okay no no that was there yeah i've done about four videos showing
people where it is um yeah you know there's so many videos that i do that you're not necessarily
going to see them that's why i do keep people but that's the simple way if you lost the links
i knew you would say that it's just i mean it's just a process and a journey and there's always um
nice shortage of videos on the planet isn't it benji just following you is like drinking from
a fire hose every time i tune in and i want to say and i love it it's great um but i do tend i
get lost in the technology sometimes yeah i tuned in you're not alone ladies you're not alone
that's for sure but i i got involved a few weeks ago in something you were doing and it was right
before the divine health challenge um and you have a new book you said it was there a new book
it it seems it was it was a book and i began to just listen and listen to chapter i know what it
was i downloaded the book thank you that's what i'm looking for is what's the title because i
can't find it again and and i got through several chapters and i was just taking copious notes and
really appreciating it all and um wanted to get back to it and then couldn't find it so the science
of dreams hallelujah thank you and it made me realize you know i sounded for the sonship course
probably a year ago and i for some reason didn't didn't jump on it and and get underway with it
and i realized i need to go back and do that i really need to go back and do that but when i did
yeah i kept getting charged for months and months and months at a time i kept getting charged
extra charges for you know out of the country um you know oh yeah well just yeah it was just
it was very confusing email support if there was an issue there okay you'll get sorted out
with that um but the new platform i'll just quickly show you that is so on my tiny phone
i might not be able to see my phone too but um the new platform is so nice for for doing the um
like for doing training and things like that if you want to if you're like i absolutely need to go
back and um you want to you know for example do the um online school of sonship you know some
of the courses in there i'm just i'm stoked with this it's a little bit
slow sometimes on my end and sometimes with the developers side of things it's just it can be a
little bit so it's not the fastest we talk about that's partly because we've got about i don't know
like 15 000 hours of video on there is that all wow i mean there's just i mean there's just it's
just this goes on and on and on and there's just so many layers and layers and there's so much
content on there but the um the online school of sonship is here um you've got access to the
giant size master class that's what nancy cohen mike this is what you signed up for just recently
giant size academy is that's on the premium level but the online school of sonship foundation
scores they're such a great one to go through but it's just like it's all laid out there nicely to
go through how did you get there pardon yeah how did you get to that part benji uh actually the
easy way is when you're on the platform right have you if you haven't been to the platform
just go to raisingroyalty.com and then you go to topics there's the easy way hit topics and go to
school of sunshine okay okay thank you and when you get to school of sonship you can choose all
these different well things to what do you want to go through you know like open heaven mass class
so wild so much good stuff and the the premium access is only nine dollars a month and um there's
tons of great stuff in there as well okay um yeah so cool stuff here where do you recommend beginning
if you jump into that uh if you if you want to like get a real theological framework for
understanding sonship and understanding how to transition from pretty much everything that we
grew up on and transition from that into like okay right i've got a really good foundation
to understand sonship then i would start with the foundations course because this is okay
um i've been studying sonship for a few years yeah it's so it's well i mean probably take a look
sunshine because it just depends on it depends on who you're talking to and even even if you
do this from the very beginning from mine you'll still find a completely different angle that it's
come from in terms of um you know understanding that the trinitarian theology but it's not
exclusively like trinitarian like there's so much in here that other people won't cover
that people don't talk about um like as you get further down here um some of this was mixed in
with some vision training as well so there's the option to do that or you can just stick with the
theology um but as you get further down here and i recommend doing the doing it in an order first but
origins of the gospel um these uh these five sessions um they need to come off kind of like
a built i've spent this time building the foundation for them but this covers 2 000 years of church
theology who brought what in and where and what it actually means
you know so it's it's it's pretty comprehensive and a great way to like start
um so how long is this how long is this whole part this whole foundation's course
it's just it's a south place so you can just do it whenever you like
aaron good to see you but good to see you man yeah so um benji do you mind describing
you know how it's got groups in there now are the groups just for elaborating on what they're
learning in the platform or what's the purpose of the groups groups is something that is
kind of in development at the moment as well so you've got groups here
um we have we're just really starting to develop them but the cool thing is that if you oh hang on
i don't know if i'm sharing my screen that doesn't really matter at the moment for that but the the
thing about um the groups is that if you've got premium access you can create your own group
and the value of that is that uh you know when you create a group it's similar to a facebook
group you can stream to it you can upload your content when you upload your content it's all
on a blockchain data storage service so it means that no one can delete your content
um so it's just a lot safer it's kind of designed if you want to have something it's a little bit
freedom fightery and private and um not you know not as able to be hacked by
people or deleted you know like we could wake up tomorrow in our facebook group
could just be deleted and gone,
but we've spent years creating all of our content
that's on Facebook.
Well, now we have it all on our own platform
and all stored on blockchain data, software,
and we've created that opportunity for other people too.
If you're like, oh, hey, sweet,
I wanna like a private place
to have some conversations with some people
where people aren't gonna be snooping around
and checking out all my stuff and owning all my content,
then you can have your own private place
to do that together with your groups
to have private conversations, to stream, to, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
So.
Thank you, Benji, I need to go.
Thank you very much.
Hey, no worries.
We're gonna wrap it up here anyway.
So.
God bless.
Thanks, guys. God bless, everybody.
Bye.
Thank you for coming on board
and we should get someone to pray for us to wrap it up.
Dundee.
I'll wait for the prayer.
Yeah, oh, Dundee,
would you be happy to pray for us to wrap it up?
Yes, sir, can you hear me?
Yeah, hear you, great.
It'd be awesome to have you pray.
Yes, sir.
Father, I'm gonna thank you for bringing us together.
We are here to demonstrate Jesus to the world.
We want your mindset.
We wanna live without limitations.
We want our lives to count.
We want the sacrifice of Jesus for our lives to count.
We wanna honor you in everything that we do
and we wanna make sure that nothing hinders that.
I just pray, Father, that you would infuse us
with everything that we need to bring glory to Jesus
into your kingdom without limitation
and may you bless us abundantly
beyond we can ever think or imagine.
In Jesus' name, amen.
Yes, amen.
Amen.
Thanks so much for me.
Appreciate that.
Lots of love to everyone.
Bye.
Thanks for jumping on, guys.
Bless you.
Bless you all.
Thank you.
Bye.