WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:10.800 time to work. Sorry, that's right. So I'll start again. So heap of information. So I've prepared 2 00:00:10.800 --> 00:00:18.960 a number of slides. So if I can get you guys to really understand how the immune system works, 3 00:00:18.960 --> 00:00:24.240 or how God designed it to work naturally, then you'll get to understand what the problem is 4 00:00:24.240 --> 00:00:31.680 with the vaccines. Okay, so I'm going to spend quite a bit of time talking about how God designed 5 00:00:31.680 --> 00:00:39.040 it. So just bear with me now while I whack open the slides across to... So I had it all beautifully 6 00:00:39.040 --> 00:00:45.280 set up on my beautiful big new iMac desktop computer, and that was just looking lovely, 7 00:00:45.280 --> 00:00:52.000 but it didn't want to talk to us. Don't ask me why. That's all right. We learned some really 8 00:00:52.000 --> 00:01:04.239 good things about drinks and about miracles. I'm glad you're here now. Yeah, I'm going to shift 9 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:10.080 that. I can't shift that across. It doesn't want to shift it across. That's not good. I do need 10 00:01:10.080 --> 00:01:18.320 you to shift that across, because I need to be able to see what happens if I do that. 11 00:01:18.320 --> 00:01:28.080 All right, good. So I've got you guys, and I've got the other across on the other desk. So hopefully, 12 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:34.880 that is going to work. All right, so let's launch away. So what I'm talking about is, 13 00:01:34.880 --> 00:01:40.400 as I said, sort of the issue of the COVID vaccinations. So when we consider any medications, 14 00:01:40.400 --> 00:01:44.960 this applies to any medication, whether we're talking vaccines, over-the-counter drugs, 15 00:01:44.960 --> 00:01:49.520 it doesn't matter, there are three things we've got to consider. The first thing we have to 16 00:01:49.520 --> 00:01:56.480 consider is, is that necessary? Is that medication necessary? Because once we've worked out the level 17 00:01:56.480 --> 00:02:02.720 of necessity, then the next two things, we know what we need to look for there. So necessity, 18 00:02:02.720 --> 00:02:09.199 is it necessary? Then the next thing is safety. And then the last thing is efficacy. 19 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:14.480 So let's work that through for a second. So if you've got a headache, it's not necessary for 20 00:02:14.480 --> 00:02:22.960 you to take a painkiller. You might like to, but it's not necessary. So because it's not necessary, 21 00:02:22.960 --> 00:02:28.960 any painkiller, any analgesic that you would go to take, therefore must have an extremely high 22 00:02:28.960 --> 00:02:36.400 safety profile, because it's not necessary. Risk versus benefit, right? We've always got to weigh 23 00:02:36.960 --> 00:02:42.080 up the risk versus the benefit. So we want benefit only, there must be no risk, because we're not 24 00:02:42.080 --> 00:02:47.040 doing it for something important. And then efficacy, well, if it's got a high safety 25 00:02:47.040 --> 00:02:50.560 profile and it's not a dangerous disease, well, if it works, that's great. If it doesn't, 26 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:58.080 it doesn't matter. But if we've got someone with a life-threatening disease, they're in intensive 27 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:06.160 care, they're about to die. So, okay, we have a situation where it's necessary, we would think 28 00:03:06.160 --> 00:03:13.520 to do something. But if they're about to die, then the safety profile of what we're going to try 29 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:20.240 might not be that good. In fact, usually once people get to that stage, you're in that situation, 30 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:24.080 the kind of drugs and the kind of things they're trying do not have a good safety profile. 31 00:03:24.640 --> 00:03:30.000 You would not use them in a person who wasn't that sick. So the safety profile is different. 32 00:03:31.440 --> 00:03:34.560 You do hope there'll be efficacy, because you do want it to work. Otherwise, 33 00:03:34.560 --> 00:03:39.120 you're not going to risk the safety profile. Okay, so we're always stopping to think about 34 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:48.880 necessity, safety, and efficacy. So when we apply that to the question of COVID, 35 00:03:51.520 --> 00:04:02.480 so the necessity here is do we of necessity need to, sorry, I'm jumping screens out of place here, 36 00:04:02.480 --> 00:04:08.960 do we of necessity require a vaccine as a way of managing COVID? 37 00:04:09.920 --> 00:04:13.600 So the first thing we then look at, well, what's the actual severity of the disease? 38 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:20.240 Well, do we have as many COVID cases as they tell us? Well, in fact, we know that's not so. We know 39 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:26.000 that the real-time PCR test has very high levels of false positives. It has now been acknowledged 40 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:32.240 by both the CDC and the FDA that these tests are invalid and inaccurate, and so they're banned 41 00:04:32.240 --> 00:04:36.000 from use now. The USA now don't use them. Australia's starting to move away from them. 42 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:44.080 And so instead, what we had was a case-demic, not a pandemic, a case-demic, where we had all these 43 00:04:44.080 --> 00:04:50.880 artificially inflated numbers telling everyone that just because the real-time PCR test was 44 00:04:50.880 --> 00:04:56.720 positive, that meant that we had a case of COVID. Well, it didn't. All we had was a case 45 00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:59.920 of a positive test in a test that has something like 90%. 46 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.600 four percent false positive rate. 47 00:05:03.760 --> 00:05:07.760 So there was I talked into that the last time but you know it's it's just not 48 00:05:07.760 --> 00:05:12.320 correct and so it's picking up a whole heap of asymptomatic people and saying 49 00:05:12.320 --> 00:05:15.600 they're COVID cases and even in your symptomatic 50 00:05:15.600 --> 00:05:19.760 people it might not be correct because the real-time PCR cannot distinguish 51 00:05:19.760 --> 00:05:24.240 between the flu and quite a few other things. So it's 52 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:28.800 uh it's not an accurate test by any stretch of the imagination. So then we 53 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:31.200 come to the issue well how many people are dying? 54 00:05:31.200 --> 00:05:36.080 Well the deaths are on a ballpark to the flu and people have forgotten about the 55 00:05:36.080 --> 00:05:38.560 flu because the flu conveniently disappeared as 56 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:42.000 as COVID erupted and that's an interesting question in itself why did 57 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:46.000 the flu suddenly disappear as COVID appeared? 58 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:49.680 But the deaths are somewhat equivalent but our other problem is that deaths have 59 00:05:49.680 --> 00:05:54.240 also been artificially conflated. How did they do that? They've done that 60 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:57.360 by definition that anyone who dies of anything within 61 00:05:57.360 --> 00:06:00.640 28 days all of what's happened here has been about 62 00:06:00.640 --> 00:06:06.880 changing definitions to suit the narrative. So the deaths if anyone 63 00:06:06.880 --> 00:06:10.400 gets tested as a COVID positive within 28 days 64 00:06:10.400 --> 00:06:14.720 they're called a COVID death. Now they might have started off with COVID and 65 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:17.520 then ended up in in hospital and stuck on a ventilator and 66 00:06:17.520 --> 00:06:21.120 actually die as a result of ventilator induced injuries. 67 00:06:21.120 --> 00:06:24.320 I've seen that happen I fought a case over that one. 68 00:06:24.320 --> 00:06:27.920 They might have gone into hospital for something completely different 69 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:31.120 the hospitals are routinely testing everyone for COVID who comes in and they 70 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:34.320 test serially they don't just test once they keep testing the whole time you're 71 00:06:34.320 --> 00:06:37.280 in there and if you turn up a COVID positive you're 72 00:06:37.280 --> 00:06:42.480 now a COVID case. So the deaths 73 00:06:42.480 --> 00:06:47.600 are artificially conflated and what about the deaths that we attribute to 74 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:51.200 your vaccinated so Australia's you know New South Wales are proudly saying hey 75 00:06:51.200 --> 00:06:54.480 look you know we've you know it really is it's still an 76 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:59.200 unvaccinated problem but what they're not doing is that 77 00:06:59.200 --> 00:07:02.880 and the slides aren't coming up at the moment because this is just talking 78 00:07:02.880 --> 00:07:06.000 stuff. When it comes to slides that you need to see 79 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:09.040 that I want you to see the diagrams of then they'll go up 80 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:12.320 okay but they're not coming up until then because all that happens is 81 00:07:12.320 --> 00:07:15.200 I know from experience doing many lectures over many years all that 82 00:07:15.200 --> 00:07:18.000 happens is people will read the slide. I don't want you to read the slide I 83 00:07:18.000 --> 00:07:23.920 want you to listen to me. So your other reason the other problem 84 00:07:23.920 --> 00:07:26.400 we've got is this definition of people of 85 00:07:26.400 --> 00:07:30.160 vaccination. So again World Health Organization 86 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:33.520 definitions people aren't counted as vaccinated 87 00:07:33.520 --> 00:07:40.240 until 14 days after their second vaccine. They don't have a criteria definition 88 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:43.920 for partially vaccinated. They don't have that you're either 89 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:48.240 vaccinated or unvaccinated and you're only counted as vaccinated 90 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:52.320 if you're 14 days after the second vaccine and in fact in 91 00:07:52.320 --> 00:07:55.200 Israel and some other countries now they are moving to make it that the 92 00:07:55.200 --> 00:08:00.400 definition of vaccinated only applies after your third vaccine. 93 00:08:00.400 --> 00:08:06.320 So in other words vaccine number one and vaccine number two and in some places 94 00:08:06.320 --> 00:08:10.480 vaccine number three up until the 14 day mark is counted as 95 00:08:10.480 --> 00:08:13.520 unvaccinated. 96 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:18.160 And vaccine number two after and I just got to check the latest thing with 97 00:08:18.160 --> 00:08:20.720 Israel whether they're cutting that off at three months or six months 98 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:24.320 but vaccine number two after a certain period of time is also counted as 99 00:08:24.320 --> 00:08:27.520 unvaccinated. 100 00:08:28.080 --> 00:08:31.360 So what happens if the vaccines have actually caused an impairment in the 101 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:35.200 immunity so that people are more likely to get COVID and die from COVID? 102 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:42.000 That gets counted as unvaccinated. So you start to see that there is a 103 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:48.320 a whole heap of fiddling of definitions that alters data. 104 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:54.400 It alters what's going on. So this is a very real issue and 105 00:08:54.400 --> 00:08:58.080 I've got to stop and just say hi Annie and sorry about all those markups and 106 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:02.880 glad that you made it in. And hi Diane there's a few 107 00:09:02.880 --> 00:09:06.240 people here that I know which is always great to 108 00:09:06.400 --> 00:09:12.400 see you. All right and Virginia hello. All right so 109 00:09:12.400 --> 00:09:16.720 not necessary that's our first thing we can say and also when we then talk about 110 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:20.160 real COVID deaths I did go into this on the last one 111 00:09:20.160 --> 00:09:26.720 but the reality is that unless you are over 70 and more precisely older still 112 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:30.880 80s to 90s in a nursing home unless you're in that category 113 00:09:30.880 --> 00:09:34.720 your risk of or your let's put it the other flip it the other way around 114 00:09:34.720 --> 00:09:42.160 your survival rate is at least or greater than 99.9 percent. 115 00:09:42.160 --> 00:09:46.800 For our very young it's it's kind of like 99.999 116 00:09:46.800 --> 00:09:51.440 percent close effectively zero. In fact the USA have stated 117 00:09:51.440 --> 00:09:55.280 that they haven't found they haven't got a single 118 00:09:55.280 --> 00:09:59.360 child COVID death who didn't have some kind of comorbidity. 119 00:09:59.360 --> 00:10:02.080 So in 120 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:04.400 And that's very much a casing point now where Australia and other countries, but certainly 121 00:10:04.400 --> 00:10:07.180 Australia are pushing for the child vaccines. 122 00:10:07.180 --> 00:10:13.160 We are vaccinating against a non-existent threat. 123 00:10:13.160 --> 00:10:15.520 In which case the necessity is zero. 124 00:10:15.520 --> 00:10:22.440 It's so close to zero, we call it zero, and New Zealand's doing the same thing, yeah. 125 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:25.940 The necessity is so close to zero that we call it zero. 126 00:10:25.940 --> 00:10:32.260 So if that's the case, if our necessity is that low, then really the vaccines have got 127 00:10:32.260 --> 00:10:38.700 to be, if we're going to rely on vaccines as our way of getting it through, they've 128 00:10:38.700 --> 00:10:42.500 got to be very safe and they've got to be efficacious. 129 00:10:42.500 --> 00:10:48.620 That actually brings us to the question of immunity. 130 00:10:48.620 --> 00:10:54.660 So again, whoops, I've just jumped, World Health Organisation are really good at changing 131 00:10:54.660 --> 00:10:55.660 definitions. 132 00:10:55.660 --> 00:10:57.580 I've touched on this already. 133 00:10:57.580 --> 00:11:02.140 They did it with the changing definition of pandemics, they've done it with the changing 134 00:11:02.140 --> 00:11:07.180 definition of immunity, they've done it with your changing definition of cases and so on 135 00:11:07.180 --> 00:11:08.180 and so on. 136 00:11:08.180 --> 00:11:13.340 They keep shifting goalposts and it's if anyone who is good at doing a way back machine will 137 00:11:13.340 --> 00:11:15.620 find that. 138 00:11:15.620 --> 00:11:20.080 So immunity, they've changed the definition of immunity, whereas immunity used to mean 139 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:23.140 what would be developed naturally post-infection. 140 00:11:23.140 --> 00:11:29.140 Immunity progressively has come to mean herd immunity only from the numbers of vaccinated, 141 00:11:29.140 --> 00:11:31.940 not from natural infection. 142 00:11:31.940 --> 00:11:37.820 So now who count immunity as vaccine-induced immunity? 143 00:11:37.820 --> 00:11:40.820 So there are a couple of assumptions in that. 144 00:11:40.820 --> 00:11:46.020 The first assumption is that the vaccines are in fact effective and do actually induce 145 00:11:46.020 --> 00:11:52.100 durable, long-lasting, effective immunity. 146 00:11:52.100 --> 00:11:53.100 That's your first premise. 147 00:11:53.100 --> 00:11:58.860 But your second premise is that native immunity is ineffective, otherwise why are we changing 148 00:11:58.860 --> 00:12:03.820 a definition to immunity being dependent on vaccination? 149 00:12:03.820 --> 00:12:06.220 So is that true? 150 00:12:06.220 --> 00:12:11.100 We've got numerous studies now, increasing numbers of studies coming out just in relation 151 00:12:11.100 --> 00:12:12.100 to COVID. 152 00:12:12.100 --> 00:12:16.260 This has been done with so many other infections, but just in relation to COVID, native immunity 153 00:12:16.260 --> 00:12:17.260 is effective. 154 00:12:17.860 --> 00:12:20.020 It is effective at preventing transmission. 155 00:12:20.020 --> 00:12:24.660 It is effective at preventing future disease, and it is durable. 156 00:12:24.660 --> 00:12:29.700 And so far, they've got it as far as 18 to 20 months, but likely it's going to be years 157 00:12:29.700 --> 00:12:32.060 and probably even lifelong. 158 00:12:32.060 --> 00:12:40.300 So native immunity, our God-designed immune systems, it hasn't forgotten how to work, 159 00:12:40.300 --> 00:12:41.300 truly. 160 00:12:41.300 --> 00:12:42.300 It does. 161 00:12:42.300 --> 00:12:45.400 It knows how to work. 162 00:12:45.400 --> 00:12:47.020 So that's your first thing we say. 163 00:12:47.780 --> 00:12:48.780 Well, what about the immunity question? 164 00:12:48.780 --> 00:12:49.780 I'm going to come back to that. 165 00:12:49.780 --> 00:12:55.860 The other thing that they keep saying, well, we have a problem with the new types coming 166 00:12:55.860 --> 00:12:59.100 out, all the new variants, all the virus mutations. 167 00:12:59.100 --> 00:13:06.820 Well, yes, there is a problem with them, and the problem is that the viruses in their natural 168 00:13:06.820 --> 00:13:11.060 history always shift according to their environment. 169 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:17.760 Just like all of creation, God has designed within the genetic potential for change, and 170 00:13:17.760 --> 00:13:20.280 the viruses do that. 171 00:13:20.280 --> 00:13:25.440 It has been, there are some researchers who have put out the theory that what these viruses 172 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:32.280 are actually doing is not mutating, well, I'll go back a step. 173 00:13:32.280 --> 00:13:38.520 Across the board, viruses in general mutate down in pathogenicity. 174 00:13:38.520 --> 00:13:40.880 They become less virulent. 175 00:13:41.700 --> 00:13:46.180 It's this passage in time, this passage through tissues that does that, and in fact, we know 176 00:13:46.180 --> 00:13:51.020 that feature as virologists and doctors, because we use that in the lab to take things like 177 00:13:51.020 --> 00:13:55.540 the measles virus and weaken it so that it can be then used in a vaccine. 178 00:13:55.540 --> 00:13:58.180 It's called tissue passage. 179 00:13:58.180 --> 00:14:03.460 You pass a virus through cell cultures several times, and it progressively weakens. 180 00:14:03.460 --> 00:14:06.700 It can't maintain its pathogenicity. 181 00:14:06.700 --> 00:14:08.660 So the same thing happens in populations. 182 00:14:08.680 --> 00:14:14.480 You start off with what looks like a new virus, and the first round, first wave, second wave, 183 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:19.480 but then it's getting progressively less and less as the virus, if you like, comes down, 184 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:23.440 but it quietens down, and it becomes what we call endemic. 185 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:26.620 There is a low-grade background level of it in the community. 186 00:14:26.620 --> 00:14:30.140 It sort of still circulates, doesn't cause anything significant. 187 00:14:30.140 --> 00:14:36.240 It wants to keep itself circulating, but it doesn't cause a problem, and this is the natural 188 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:43.600 history of your viruses, to downregulate and to become less pathogenic, and so the COVID 189 00:14:43.600 --> 00:14:49.000 virus is doing the same thing, as all other viruses have always historically done. 190 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:50.000 It's doing the same thing. 191 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:52.640 It is downregulating itself. 192 00:14:52.640 --> 00:14:56.320 Our progressive so-called variants are not more dangerous. 193 00:14:56.320 --> 00:14:57.800 Yes, they might be more infectious. 194 00:14:57.800 --> 00:15:00.000 Well, that's just a clever move the virus to say. 195 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:05.040 I want to get through as many people as I can. If you think of it from a, if you like, 196 00:15:05.040 --> 00:15:10.960 the virus perspective, it's not in its best interests to kill everyone that it gets. 197 00:15:11.680 --> 00:15:16.720 And that is not a good move because then it doesn't get to spread. It actually just wants 198 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:21.280 to, it just wants to multiply. It just wants to spread. So the best way for it to do that is to 199 00:15:21.280 --> 00:15:26.400 be highly transmissible and mild. And that's what it's working its way towards. It's becoming more 200 00:15:26.400 --> 00:15:32.640 transmissible. It's becoming more mild. The COVID virus, I think I touched on this last time, 201 00:15:32.640 --> 00:15:38.480 but it's in the Corona family of viruses and the Corona family of viruses. There are hundreds or 202 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:42.720 if not thousands of these. And the common cold is one of them. There's over 200 types of the 203 00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:49.920 common cold. Common cold is a standard Corona virus. And it's not the natural thing for 204 00:15:49.920 --> 00:15:54.240 Corona viruses to be nasty. So you kind of know that there's something else happening. 205 00:15:54.240 --> 00:15:58.080 And then Corona viruses are through animals. The animal world has got colds as well. 206 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:08.080 So the virus is mutating a natural process to calm itself down. So in fact, if we get the 207 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:12.560 Omicron, which is what we're down to now, it's moved from alpha to delta, and we're now into 208 00:16:12.560 --> 00:16:20.400 the main one being the Omicron. The Omicron can actually be said, and a good way to view it, 209 00:16:20.400 --> 00:16:26.400 is that's a natural vaccine. Go get your dose of Omicron. You then have activated your native 210 00:16:26.400 --> 00:16:32.320 immune system. You have immunity. You'll be fine. And it's not going to take you out. A bit of a 211 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:39.120 flu, nasty flu. You can feel a bit unwell for a week or maybe two, and that's it. So the Omicron 212 00:16:39.120 --> 00:16:47.440 is not a threat. So back on this thing of virus mutation, there are some researchers who are also 213 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:54.960 believing that what's actually happening is that the Omicron, the coronavirus, the SARS-CoV-2, 214 00:16:55.840 --> 00:17:04.720 is mutating itself away from the synthetic man-added insertions for the spike protein. 215 00:17:05.760 --> 00:17:13.200 It's losing them. That's not a bad thing. And that's a testimony, isn't it, to the power and 216 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:22.800 the grace and the might of God. So Omicron is really, as I said, Omicron is no worse than the 217 00:17:22.800 --> 00:17:28.560 flu. So it's really about being armed with all the things that I spoke about last week on how 218 00:17:28.560 --> 00:17:34.000 to treat your COVID, which will also treat the flu, which will also treat any other virus that 219 00:17:34.000 --> 00:17:38.480 might come. And there are other things when I finally get around to putting a document together, 220 00:17:38.560 --> 00:17:43.040 everything is always bigger than Ben-Hur, that you can be armed with as well. 221 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:48.720 So that's the thing about the viruses. Don't be afraid when you hear the media ramping up 222 00:17:48.720 --> 00:17:55.040 these new virus mutations. They're not to be concerned about. Not the thing. 223 00:17:55.040 --> 00:18:10.160 Oh, I've got the wrong version of the, what's happened here? Okay. This computer has picked 224 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:14.320 up the wrong version of the slides. You might have to bear with me a minute and I've got to 225 00:18:14.320 --> 00:18:20.160 go and try and find, I have to do another computer job because I updated the slides 226 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:31.520 on the other computer. All right. I really do want to do this because this next bit was key. 227 00:18:31.520 --> 00:18:35.120 I don't want to jump into talking about the vaccines without doing the rest of this. 228 00:18:35.120 --> 00:18:48.800 Oh, all right. All right. So show of hands here. I can go on talking. 229 00:18:59.920 --> 00:19:01.120 You're frozen, Robin. 230 00:19:05.120 --> 00:19:29.280 Hopefully she will realize she's frozen and be back soon guys. So yeah, she hasn't put anything 231 00:19:29.280 --> 00:19:33.440 in the chat. Sorry about all the technical issues. Hopefully by the third or fourth one, 232 00:19:33.440 --> 00:19:40.640 we'll have all these sorted and it'll be smooth sailing. Obviously it's, yeah. Thanks. 233 00:19:42.480 --> 00:19:43.760 She should be here soon. 234 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:52.720 She's going to get slides off her other computer. Yes, she'll be back. 235 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:59.600 Ask a question while we're waiting for Robin and if she comes back straight on, I'll, you know, 236 00:19:59.600 --> 00:20:00.000 no worries. 237 00:20:00.000 --> 00:20:03.880 Chris, I got on the Zoom today a bit later, 238 00:20:03.880 --> 00:20:04.920 but you were talking about, 239 00:20:04.920 --> 00:20:06.800 have you been in a challenge or something? 240 00:20:06.800 --> 00:20:11.400 And we're talking about juices and all this sort of stuff. 241 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:13.160 And where did that all come from? 242 00:20:13.160 --> 00:20:15.480 What are you guys doing? 243 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:17.400 I'm back in here, guys. 244 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:18.240 Okay. 245 00:20:21.080 --> 00:20:23.960 Yep, so I had to change connection. 246 00:20:25.160 --> 00:20:26.320 I'll just move that to make sure. 247 00:20:26.320 --> 00:20:28.840 Now, what I was about to say is I've discovered 248 00:20:28.840 --> 00:20:32.680 that in that having to change over computers, 249 00:20:36.880 --> 00:20:38.640 because I've got two. 250 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:48.640 You've got an echo of whatever you're doing there, Robin. 251 00:20:48.640 --> 00:20:49.480 Presentations. 252 00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:53.240 The one I've got here doesn't have it in a bit 253 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:54.240 on the mute. 254 00:20:55.080 --> 00:20:59.680 You're in slow motion, Robin. 255 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:01.280 It's freezing. 256 00:21:01.280 --> 00:21:04.520 How our immune system works that I wanted. 257 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:12.680 None of the internet systems are 100% reliable. 258 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:14.240 Hopefully that's back again. 259 00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:16.160 I've got the phone sitting out. 260 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:17.600 Hopefully that's back again. 261 00:21:18.600 --> 00:21:19.760 Yep, you're good to go. 262 00:21:19.760 --> 00:21:20.800 Sounds better. 263 00:21:20.800 --> 00:21:22.560 Look, I so apologise. 264 00:21:22.560 --> 00:21:25.400 Honestly, technology drives you bananas, doesn't it? 265 00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:29.920 So as I'm saying, we can make a choice here 266 00:21:29.920 --> 00:21:33.240 where I just take, I either quickly swap computers back over 267 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:37.200 to access the other slide presentation, 268 00:21:37.200 --> 00:21:38.880 email across to this computer, 269 00:21:38.880 --> 00:21:41.000 open it up on this computer to get it back up, 270 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:42.800 which will take a few minutes to do that. 271 00:21:42.800 --> 00:21:45.200 Or I run with the presentation I've got here. 272 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:46.920 And when we take our break a bit later, 273 00:21:46.920 --> 00:21:48.200 change it over and then come back 274 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:49.600 and fill in on the immunity. 275 00:21:50.600 --> 00:21:52.720 You've only got 20 minutes till the break. 276 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:54.240 If it's still at two or three. 277 00:21:54.240 --> 00:21:55.080 Keep going? 278 00:21:55.080 --> 00:21:56.680 Yeah, just keep going and then do it on the break 279 00:21:56.680 --> 00:21:58.800 would probably be the best way. 280 00:21:58.800 --> 00:21:59.640 Yeah. 281 00:21:59.640 --> 00:22:02.320 I think that's a way to go. 282 00:22:02.320 --> 00:22:03.160 All right. 283 00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:06.800 So talking through this, we've put this idea, 284 00:22:06.800 --> 00:22:09.400 well, okay, is there a necessity? 285 00:22:10.320 --> 00:22:12.640 Do we need these vaccines? 286 00:22:12.640 --> 00:22:14.520 All of these vaccine types, 287 00:22:14.520 --> 00:22:17.240 we need to understand that all of these vaccines 288 00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:19.080 that have been introduced have been introduced 289 00:22:19.080 --> 00:22:22.160 under what's called emergency use authorization. 290 00:22:22.160 --> 00:22:23.360 What does that mean? 291 00:22:23.360 --> 00:22:24.600 That depended on first, 292 00:22:24.600 --> 00:22:27.160 they're having made a definition of a pandemic. 293 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:32.920 So that in itself is an interesting question 294 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:33.920 because as I said, 295 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:36.680 who have been changing definitions of everything? 296 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:42.280 And in 2009, prior to the swine flu, 297 00:22:42.280 --> 00:22:45.400 so-called epidemic pandemic, 298 00:22:45.400 --> 00:22:46.960 yeah, epidemic pandemic, 299 00:22:46.960 --> 00:22:48.640 they tried to call it a pandemic. 300 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:50.920 They changed the definition. 301 00:22:50.920 --> 00:22:52.800 What was the definition prior to that? 302 00:22:52.800 --> 00:22:57.440 The definition was a widespread disease 303 00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:00.320 basically across the world that was serious. 304 00:23:00.320 --> 00:23:02.000 So not just that it was widespread, it was serious. 305 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:03.600 So they dropped the, it is serious. 306 00:23:03.600 --> 00:23:06.280 So all they needed now for definition of a pandemic 307 00:23:06.280 --> 00:23:09.000 is that, oh, look, it's all over the place. 308 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:11.160 Golly gosh, so is the cold. 309 00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:13.480 So is the flu every year, but nevermind. 310 00:23:14.320 --> 00:23:19.320 We now, we can now call a newly discovered, 311 00:23:20.640 --> 00:23:24.200 released, whatever you want to say about it, virus, 312 00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:27.440 a pandemic just because we're finding it all over the place. 313 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:30.840 Nothing to do with its disease severity. 314 00:23:30.840 --> 00:23:32.680 So to get a drug, a vaccine 315 00:23:32.680 --> 00:23:34.360 under emergency use authorization, 316 00:23:34.360 --> 00:23:36.440 it must first be a pandemic, 317 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:40.960 but secondly, there must be no other treatment available. 318 00:23:40.960 --> 00:23:43.120 So let's stop there for a sec. 319 00:23:43.760 --> 00:23:46.200 No other treatment available. 320 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:48.200 Now, isn't that interesting? 321 00:23:48.200 --> 00:23:52.800 I spoke last week about even just the natural options 322 00:23:52.800 --> 00:23:55.240 that we have evidence for in published papers 323 00:23:56.520 --> 00:23:59.320 as having effectiveness against both prevention 324 00:23:59.320 --> 00:24:02.560 and treatment in the SARS-CoV-2 virus. 325 00:24:02.560 --> 00:24:05.000 Even if all we do is vitamin D. 326 00:24:05.000 --> 00:24:06.800 Vitamin D levels in the blood alone 327 00:24:06.800 --> 00:24:08.160 will predict who's going to get it, 328 00:24:08.160 --> 00:24:09.200 how severe they're going to get it, 329 00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:10.240 whether they end up hospital, 330 00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:11.960 whether they end up ICU, whether they die. 331 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:13.240 Vitamin D levels alone. 332 00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:17.560 That's not counting vitamin A, vitamin C, zinc, 333 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:22.560 quercetin, nigella, sediva, the black seed oil. 334 00:24:22.560 --> 00:24:23.400 On it goes. 335 00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:26.320 You know, the list is long, all the herbs. 336 00:24:27.640 --> 00:24:31.240 And that's not counting our two key drugs, 337 00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:34.480 ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine, 338 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:37.040 both of which, isn't it intriguing, 339 00:24:37.040 --> 00:24:40.920 both of which old-fashioned drugs, long histories of use, 340 00:24:42.280 --> 00:24:44.840 proven to work in this situation, 341 00:24:44.840 --> 00:24:47.720 both of which get wiped out. 342 00:24:49.280 --> 00:24:51.840 They couldn't allow them to be approved and run 343 00:24:51.840 --> 00:24:55.760 because then they could not have these vaccines introduced 344 00:24:55.760 --> 00:24:57.880 under emergency use authorisation. 345 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:00.080 Does that make sense? 346 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:08.760 You're on the page everyone. Can I see something from somebody? Yeah, okay. You're beginning 347 00:25:08.760 --> 00:25:18.800 to see the picture here. So we have a virus and there's a whole background story of where 348 00:25:18.800 --> 00:25:26.600 this came from or how it came to be. So we have this virus that is not a dangerous virus 349 00:25:26.600 --> 00:25:33.960 except for that small subgroup of the population who are at risk from pretty well anything. 350 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:38.080 Most of the people dying of COVID, I've said this before, but the data is clear. Most of 351 00:25:38.080 --> 00:25:48.040 the people dying from COVID have already exceeded the average normal lifespan. So they take 352 00:25:48.040 --> 00:25:54.280 a virus that in itself is not dangerous and they say, oops, it's a pandemic. So then they 353 00:25:54.280 --> 00:25:59.160 have to ramp up in everybody's minds how dangerous and scary it is because, oh, by the way, there 354 00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:04.600 is nothing to treat it. Why? Because we've discredited the actual treatments. So there's 355 00:26:04.600 --> 00:26:09.840 nothing to treat it. So, oh, dear, everybody, the only way to fix this virus is to use these 356 00:26:09.840 --> 00:26:20.040 new vaccines. All right. So that's the scenario that we have. So what about our vaccine? So 357 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:29.480 there's this organisation called GAVI. You haven't heard of GAVI? Global Alliance of the Vaccination Industry. 358 00:26:29.480 --> 00:26:35.240 GAVI. And GAVI was formed not that long ago, which is rather intriguing. And I'll talk a bit more 359 00:26:35.240 --> 00:26:39.600 on when we come to it. I'll put the slide up and you can actually see them. But anyway. 360 00:26:39.600 --> 00:26:43.000 So what GAVI has said is that this is just straight what I'm going to say in these next 361 00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:46.560 couple of slides are straight off the GAVI website. So this is their words. And they're 362 00:26:46.560 --> 00:26:50.800 saying that there are more vaccine candidates simultaneously in the pipeline for COVID than 363 00:26:50.800 --> 00:26:55.280 for any infectious disease ever before. Well, isn't that interesting? Here we've got a virus 364 00:26:55.280 --> 00:27:00.520 that actually is way less dangerous than TB or malaria or all of these other things. We've 365 00:27:00.520 --> 00:27:07.360 got more vaccines coming for them than ever before for anything ever before. And they're 366 00:27:07.360 --> 00:27:12.920 trying to achieve the same thing, immunity to the virus. Some might be able to stop transmission, 367 00:27:12.920 --> 00:27:18.000 they say. And they do this by stimulating an immune response to an antigen. By definition, 368 00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:25.280 an antigen is a molecule part of a virus or a bacteria that induces an immune response. 369 00:27:25.280 --> 00:27:29.520 So an antigen is a molecule that induces an immune response. It can be a plant, it can 370 00:27:29.520 --> 00:27:35.800 be a virus, it can be bacteria, it can be anything. So in COVID-19, that antigen is 371 00:27:35.800 --> 00:27:41.520 your spike protein. The spike protein itself is not just the antigen, it's also the pathogenic 372 00:27:41.520 --> 00:27:50.600 part of the COVID virus. And that's the part that attaches to the ACE receptor and gives 373 00:27:50.600 --> 00:27:56.880 it access into the human cells. So there are four main vaccine types. Now, I might flip 374 00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:06.760 this bit now across on to, oh no, not yet. Four main types. There's a whole virus type. 375 00:28:06.760 --> 00:28:11.320 And this is an old type of vaccine. We've had these around for a long time. There's 376 00:28:11.320 --> 00:28:19.240 a protein subunit type. And we've also done a little bit with those before. But two totally 377 00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:27.560 new types, a viral vector type and the nucleic acid type. These are new. And so what these 378 00:28:27.560 --> 00:28:32.680 viral vector and nucleic acid types do, and this is Gabby's own words here, they try to 379 00:28:32.760 --> 00:28:41.080 smuggle the antigen into the body. And then use the body's own cells to make the viral antigen. 380 00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:48.280 And so at the time that this was written, and this was done January of last year, 381 00:28:48.280 --> 00:28:54.680 there were 15 whole virus vaccines coming. There were 13 protein subunit vaccines. But guess what? 382 00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:59.480 20 of the nucleic acid. That's their favourite one. I'll go into why it's their favourite one. 383 00:28:59.480 --> 00:29:03.960 Their favourite one is the nucleic acid ones. And the viral vector, which also work with 384 00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:09.480 nucleic acid, that's a total of 35 different types of vaccine, different vaccines coming 385 00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:16.760 through in those categories. 35. They're going to get you with one of them. So the whole virus 386 00:29:16.760 --> 00:29:21.240 vaccine. So think of this, your four categories, your whole virus vaccine. So what do they do with 387 00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:31.640 these? What they do is they either weaken or deactivate the pathogen, the virus that's caused 388 00:29:31.640 --> 00:29:37.640 the original disease so that we'll get a protective immunity to it. Okay, so it can be the live 389 00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:42.840 attenuated. So this is the weakened one. So this is where I spoke earlier about the passage of a 390 00:29:42.840 --> 00:29:48.440 virus through a system. This is where they grow it in multiple cell cultures. So it gets progressively 391 00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:53.880 weaker. So it can still grow, it can still multiply, but it's not going to cause illness. 392 00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:59.800 So our classic example of that is the measles virus. The measles, mumps, rubella virus is a 393 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:07.920 live attenuated viral vaccine. So also is the varicella zoster virus. Both of those are live 394 00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:14.960 attenuated virus vaccines. Then the other type is the inactivated form, and that's where they've 395 00:30:14.960 --> 00:30:22.960 been through a process that destroys the genetic material so that they can't infect and replicate. 396 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:28.880 They'll still get an immune response, so they don't get into the cells and grow inside the cells. 397 00:30:29.600 --> 00:30:34.080 They're sitting outside the cells, but they will get an immune response. These ones have been 398 00:30:34.080 --> 00:30:40.800 around for a long time. So the flu is an inactivated vaccine. The hepatitis A vaccine 399 00:30:40.800 --> 00:30:47.840 is an inactivated vaccine. The old TB vaccine is an inactivated vaccine. 400 00:30:50.080 --> 00:30:56.480 So how do these ones work? So your live ones, as I said, they've been weakened, 401 00:30:57.040 --> 00:31:03.360 and they actually infect the cells. So the live attenuated vaccines do actually get in 402 00:31:03.360 --> 00:31:07.120 and infect the cells, and that's why after the measles vaccine, some people will get 403 00:31:07.120 --> 00:31:14.000 atypical measles. We used to have an oral polio vaccine, and people would get polio. 404 00:31:15.200 --> 00:31:21.120 So they do infect the cells, and they do grow, but it's supposed to then cause either no disease 405 00:31:21.120 --> 00:31:26.480 or a very mild disease, and that's okay for most people. It can't be used for those with 406 00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:30.240 a weakened immune system, so someone, say, with HIV or in pregnant women, 407 00:31:31.040 --> 00:31:38.560 because it can cause a problem. And as I mentioned with the polio, sometimes this live virus can 408 00:31:38.560 --> 00:31:43.440 actually, because it's been artificially weakened by growing through tissue culture, 409 00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:48.960 sometimes it can reactivate. Sometimes in a new, and this particularly happens when it comes into 410 00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:54.000 a new population that don't have antibodies to it, it can become a little bit nasty again. And 411 00:31:54.000 --> 00:32:01.680 that's why I said the polio virus from the polio vaccine would sometimes flip across to a wild 412 00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:08.160 polio and cause polio. So that's part of why they stopped the oral polio vaccine. 413 00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:15.760 Now, so your live attenuated virus ones, so again, we're thinking measles, 414 00:32:15.760 --> 00:32:20.960 so they're a weakened version of the actual infection. So in fact, our immune system will 415 00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:27.120 respond to that like it would an actual infection, except that, and this is the key thing, that all 416 00:32:27.120 --> 00:32:37.200 the vaccines, bar one that's in study, it's nowhere near coming, all the vaccines that are injected 417 00:32:38.720 --> 00:32:44.720 miss this key point. So while, and this is Gabby saying, the immune system responds as it would to 418 00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:50.160 any other cellular invader. So that's a clever bit of wording there about cellular invader. 419 00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:55.680 It doesn't respond to it as it would any other infection coming to us by the normal routes 420 00:32:55.680 --> 00:33:02.880 infections come to us by. So think about that for a second. We are breathing in air the whole time. 421 00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:07.360 We are swallowing food the whole time. We've got things in contact to our skin the whole time. 422 00:33:08.320 --> 00:33:10.320 But how often do we tread on a needle? 423 00:33:12.800 --> 00:33:19.920 So all the vaccines that are delivered, all these current use vaccines are delivered via needle, 424 00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:26.320 which means they bypass everything else and go straight into bloodstream cellular responses. 425 00:33:27.040 --> 00:33:31.280 So anyone who tries to tell you that any vaccine activates all our unnatural immunity, 426 00:33:32.080 --> 00:33:35.600 sorry, that's a blatantly wrong statement. It's just plain not true, 427 00:33:36.240 --> 00:33:39.920 because it hasn't come by the route that activates our natural immunity. 428 00:33:41.840 --> 00:33:50.640 But your live attenuated virus vaccines will activate a whole heap. I'm going to be talking 429 00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:55.920 with the other thing about T-cells and B-cells. It will activate your T-cells. It will activate 430 00:33:55.920 --> 00:34:01.040 the killer T-cells, which are ones that just naturally go around and destroy infective cells. 431 00:34:01.040 --> 00:34:07.120 It will activate the helper T-cells, which support the B-cells. The B-cells make antibody. 432 00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:12.080 The antibody coats the offending substance so that your other cells, 433 00:34:12.080 --> 00:34:20.400 your macrophages and gobble up Pac-Man can eat it. So yes, a whole attenuated virus vaccine 434 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:24.880 will activate a lot of the immune system. And that will continue until the virus is cleared 435 00:34:24.880 --> 00:34:33.360 from the body and memory cells are made so the cells remember it. So it can produce a fairly 436 00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:38.639 decent immune response. And Gabby says it's almost as good as being exposed to the wild virus, 437 00:34:38.639 --> 00:34:49.280 but without falling ill. What about the inactivated virus vaccines? But bearing that in mind, 438 00:34:49.280 --> 00:34:52.960 so we think back to our measles vaccine, which is a classic one of these, 439 00:34:53.600 --> 00:34:59.760 do we have one measles vaccine and that's it for the rest of life? No. 440 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.080 they've realised that we have to keep doing it. 441 00:35:02.080 --> 00:35:04.480 So the kids get one at 12 months, 442 00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:06.200 then they get one again at five, 443 00:35:06.200 --> 00:35:07.920 and now we're being told they have to have it 444 00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:09.360 when they hit high school, 445 00:35:09.360 --> 00:35:12.280 and they want adults to be having it as well. 446 00:35:14.600 --> 00:35:16.240 So what about the whole, 447 00:35:16.240 --> 00:35:18.500 so we're still talking whole vaccines, 448 00:35:18.500 --> 00:35:21.760 but the inactivated viral vaccines. 449 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:25.400 So this is the ones where part of the disease-causing virus 450 00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:27.280 or part of it has been destroyed. 451 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:31.560 The replicating part that can make it, 452 00:35:31.560 --> 00:35:35.040 allow it to keep going inside the cells has been destroyed. 453 00:35:35.040 --> 00:35:37.360 So generally they will call these, 454 00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:39.720 think they're safer and they're more stable 455 00:35:39.720 --> 00:35:42.200 than the live ones because, 456 00:35:42.200 --> 00:35:47.200 now this is, we do have a big proviso in all of these, 457 00:35:47.800 --> 00:35:49.960 and that is working on the assumption 458 00:35:49.960 --> 00:35:52.680 that the spike protein, 459 00:35:52.680 --> 00:35:54.800 which is the part of the virus 460 00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:56.120 that they're making the vaccines to 461 00:35:56.120 --> 00:35:59.560 and telling us to make and so on, cannot replicate. 462 00:35:59.560 --> 00:36:01.000 All right, so we might come back to that. 463 00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:05.040 It's making the assumption that it is not self-replicating. 464 00:36:07.280 --> 00:36:11.160 So these vaccines are considered safer, more stable, 465 00:36:12.240 --> 00:36:14.200 and they usually contain a lot of the proteins 466 00:36:14.200 --> 00:36:17.040 so the immune system will respond to it, 467 00:36:17.040 --> 00:36:19.520 but it is believed, said normally, 468 00:36:19.520 --> 00:36:21.560 that your inactivated virus vaccines 469 00:36:21.560 --> 00:36:24.000 can't actually infect the cells. 470 00:36:24.000 --> 00:36:26.480 So because they're not getting into the cells, 471 00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:28.760 so it's your key, they're not getting into the cells, 472 00:36:28.760 --> 00:36:30.520 they're not infecting the cells, 473 00:36:30.520 --> 00:36:33.120 your inactivated vaccines will only stimulate 474 00:36:33.120 --> 00:36:35.560 the antibody responses. 475 00:36:35.560 --> 00:36:38.080 And we'll be talking about these different immune responses 476 00:36:38.080 --> 00:36:40.600 when I can flip those slides over. 477 00:36:40.600 --> 00:36:43.400 So it only stimulates one arm of the immune system, 478 00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:48.400 the arm called Th2, the second arm of the immune system. 479 00:36:49.240 --> 00:36:52.080 So what do they do to make these work better, be stronger? 480 00:36:52.080 --> 00:36:54.400 They add adjuvants. 481 00:36:54.400 --> 00:36:57.640 So all your inactivated virus vaccines 482 00:36:57.640 --> 00:36:59.720 will have adjuvants added. 483 00:36:59.720 --> 00:37:02.680 And adjuvants are chemicals of some sort 484 00:37:02.680 --> 00:37:06.520 that will irritate, they say stimulate the immune system. 485 00:37:06.520 --> 00:37:08.920 Well, they irritate the immune system. 486 00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:10.360 They're poison. 487 00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:12.440 It irritates the immune system when the body says, 488 00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:14.160 that's no good, I've got to get rid of it. 489 00:37:14.160 --> 00:37:17.360 And the classic one that is used everywhere is aluminium. 490 00:37:18.640 --> 00:37:21.640 Aluminium containing adjuvants. 491 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:26.320 The body recognises as an immune problem, 492 00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:29.360 as a health problem, it tries to get rid of it. 493 00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:30.760 It accumulates in the brain. 494 00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:34.560 Aluminium in the brain is what we see with Alzheimer's. 495 00:37:36.080 --> 00:37:39.200 What's our other problem with our inactivated virus vaccines 496 00:37:39.200 --> 00:37:41.800 because it's not a long lasting immunity, 497 00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:43.200 you need booster doses. 498 00:37:43.200 --> 00:37:45.800 So here they're setting themselves up for a great system 499 00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:49.360 where it's like, okay, we have to add something 500 00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:50.680 to make it work more strongly. 501 00:37:50.680 --> 00:37:52.880 And we also need booster doses. 502 00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:57.200 It's a great model, the vaccination industry model. 503 00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:01.200 So when you start thinking about, 504 00:38:01.200 --> 00:38:03.760 so we start seeing on the Gavi site, 505 00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:05.840 their excuses and their justifications 506 00:38:05.840 --> 00:38:08.560 for why we're moving away from old vaccine types 507 00:38:08.560 --> 00:38:10.680 and we have to move to these new ones. 508 00:38:10.680 --> 00:38:14.640 So what they're saying is the problem is that, 509 00:38:18.160 --> 00:38:20.400 oops, that's been duplicated, let's get rid of that. 510 00:38:21.120 --> 00:38:23.160 So the problem is that these vaccines 511 00:38:23.160 --> 00:38:25.920 are a bit expensive to make 512 00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:28.560 because you have to grow the cell cultures, 513 00:38:28.560 --> 00:38:30.680 you have to, for the live attenuated ones, 514 00:38:30.680 --> 00:38:32.880 you've got to have all these appropriate cell cultures 515 00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:37.880 to pass the vaccine through before you make the vaccine. 516 00:38:39.120 --> 00:38:41.160 They've got to grow them first, produce the stuff 517 00:38:41.160 --> 00:38:43.320 and then inactivate it and then put in the vaccines. 518 00:38:43.320 --> 00:38:45.000 So they have to use a lot of different facilities, 519 00:38:45.000 --> 00:38:46.600 a lot of different cell cultures, 520 00:38:46.640 --> 00:38:48.800 and oh dear, that's time consuming 521 00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:50.320 and costs them a lot of money. 522 00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:56.520 So whole vaccines, then I spoke about subunit vaccines. 523 00:38:56.520 --> 00:38:59.520 So this is breaking it down, coming down further. 524 00:38:59.520 --> 00:39:03.800 So the subunit vaccines, rather than injecting the whole thing 525 00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:05.120 to trigger an immune response, 526 00:39:05.120 --> 00:39:08.480 your subunit vaccines or acellular vaccines, 527 00:39:08.480 --> 00:39:10.080 you might remember the pertussis, 528 00:39:10.080 --> 00:39:13.080 we switched from a whole vaccine to an acellular 529 00:39:13.080 --> 00:39:15.520 because the whole was giving too many reactions. 530 00:39:16.520 --> 00:39:20.600 Acellular vaccines have got purified parts of that pathogen, 531 00:39:20.600 --> 00:39:23.000 not the whole, purified. 532 00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:25.400 And they pick out the bits that are specially selected 533 00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:26.720 because they're the ones that are thought 534 00:39:26.720 --> 00:39:29.320 to be able to stimulate the immune cells. 535 00:39:29.320 --> 00:39:31.920 So because these are only fragments 536 00:39:31.920 --> 00:39:34.680 of the original pathogen, 537 00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:39.280 Gabby says they're incapable of causing disease. 538 00:39:39.280 --> 00:39:41.520 They're incapable of causing that particular, 539 00:39:41.520 --> 00:39:43.440 incapable of replicating. 540 00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:46.920 But again, this is working on the assumption that, 541 00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:48.840 for example, with our spike protein, 542 00:39:48.840 --> 00:39:53.080 that it cannot cause disease apart from the virus, 543 00:39:53.080 --> 00:39:55.480 if you get the difference, okay. 544 00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:58.320 But subunit vaccines working on the assumption 545 00:39:58.320 --> 00:39:59.920 that they can't cause disease. 546 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.000 So they are considered very safe, okay? 547 00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:07.080 The subunit vaccines, part of the whole. 548 00:40:07.080 --> 00:40:09.000 So what are the parts they can use? 549 00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:10.240 They can use protein. 550 00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:15.320 And this is where they isolate specific proteins 551 00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.160 from the virus or the bacteria. 552 00:40:18.200 --> 00:40:19.640 They can use sugars, 553 00:40:19.640 --> 00:40:22.440 because a lot of the bacterial cell walls, 554 00:40:22.440 --> 00:40:24.880 this doesn't happen with viruses, 555 00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:26.240 it only happens with bacteria, 556 00:40:26.240 --> 00:40:28.720 where they have sugars as part of the bacterial cell walls. 557 00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:30.720 So they can make polysaccharide vaccines 558 00:40:30.720 --> 00:40:34.800 from chains of sugar molecules 559 00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:37.560 on the cell wall of the bacteria. 560 00:40:37.560 --> 00:40:40.880 Or they can make what they call conjugate subunit vaccines. 561 00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:42.560 So this is where they've taken one thing, 562 00:40:42.560 --> 00:40:45.880 stuck it onto another thing, and put them together. 563 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:48.160 So these ones they use, 564 00:40:48.160 --> 00:40:50.680 particularly for your bacterial vaccines, 565 00:40:50.680 --> 00:40:52.400 and meningococcal is one of those. 566 00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:55.440 So the meningococcal ACY, the latest one, 567 00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:56.880 where they've got the four different types 568 00:40:56.880 --> 00:40:58.840 of meningococcal together, 569 00:40:58.840 --> 00:41:03.400 has got the sugars from four different types of bacteria 570 00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:08.360 linked together with either diphtheria or tetanus toxin. 571 00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:11.560 So hang on, we've just given you the toxin of diphtheria, 572 00:41:11.560 --> 00:41:14.640 or we've just given you the toxin of tetanus. 573 00:41:14.640 --> 00:41:15.480 Hmm. 574 00:41:16.520 --> 00:41:18.440 Obviously the body doesn't like those, 575 00:41:20.120 --> 00:41:21.760 so it makes antibodies to them. 576 00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:24.560 So they make it more nasty, 577 00:41:24.560 --> 00:41:26.440 more irritant to the immune system, 578 00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:29.320 by adding things that are poisons, 579 00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:31.400 literally, to the immune system. 580 00:41:33.720 --> 00:41:36.040 So those are our subunit vaccines. 581 00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:38.920 So when we talk, I'm going to talk a bit more 582 00:41:38.920 --> 00:41:41.760 on the protein subunit vaccine. 583 00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:45.040 So we've gone from whole to subunit, 584 00:41:45.040 --> 00:41:47.320 and now we're going down into the protein part 585 00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:48.640 of the subunits. 586 00:41:48.640 --> 00:41:51.680 And the relevance of this is that with the COVID-19, 587 00:41:51.680 --> 00:41:54.800 the only subunit vaccines we've got are protein subunit, 588 00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:56.800 because viruses don't have a cell wall. 589 00:41:57.600 --> 00:41:59.000 All they are is a package of DNA. 590 00:41:59.000 --> 00:42:02.000 So we can only make protein if we're going to subunit it. 591 00:42:04.240 --> 00:42:07.760 So the subunit vaccines are fragments of protein 592 00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:10.840 or sugar from the pathogen that have been studied. 593 00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:13.560 So they identify which of those combinations 594 00:42:13.560 --> 00:42:16.360 are going to give a strong and effective immune response. 595 00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:20.560 And in the case of SARS-CoV-2, it's a spike protein, 596 00:42:20.560 --> 00:42:24.600 because that is the whole problem. 597 00:42:25.360 --> 00:42:28.280 So by restricting the immune, and so their argument, 598 00:42:28.280 --> 00:42:32.440 Gabby's argument here, is that by restricting 599 00:42:32.440 --> 00:42:34.120 what you're giving into the system 600 00:42:34.120 --> 00:42:36.800 down to just a bit of a protein or a bit of polysaccharide, 601 00:42:36.800 --> 00:42:38.200 then we've got less side effects, 602 00:42:38.200 --> 00:42:40.720 because you're not supposed to create the disease. 603 00:42:40.720 --> 00:42:42.840 You've got less side effects. 604 00:42:42.840 --> 00:42:45.680 These are cheaper vaccines, easier to produce. 605 00:42:45.680 --> 00:42:48.440 They're more stable than your whole virus 606 00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:49.960 or bacteria vaccines. 607 00:42:49.960 --> 00:42:53.080 So there's a lot of impetus, if you like, 608 00:42:53.080 --> 00:42:55.160 for a lot of reasons why the pharmaceutical industry 609 00:42:55.160 --> 00:42:57.320 would rather like to use these. 610 00:42:58.520 --> 00:43:01.720 So what's our downside from this? 611 00:43:01.720 --> 00:43:03.240 Well, in our immune response 612 00:43:03.240 --> 00:43:05.120 and our body's ability to recognise things, 613 00:43:05.120 --> 00:43:08.560 we rely on not just one thing, but a whole heap of things. 614 00:43:08.560 --> 00:43:11.720 Our body relies on what's called 615 00:43:11.720 --> 00:43:15.320 pathogen-associated molecular patterns, 616 00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:17.400 as in a nasty thing is not likely 617 00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:19.040 to just have one thing going on with it. 618 00:43:19.040 --> 00:43:21.840 It's likely to have a collection of things. 619 00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:24.280 And our immune system and our cells are so amazing 620 00:43:24.280 --> 00:43:27.480 that it looks and it recognises that collection. 621 00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:30.480 And that collection is called a PAMP, 622 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:34.200 pathogen-associated molecular pattern, PAMPs. 623 00:43:34.200 --> 00:43:36.960 So our immune system can recognise PAMPs. 624 00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:39.080 And they're a danger signal 625 00:43:39.080 --> 00:43:42.120 because it's like it puts the immune system on alarm, 626 00:43:42.120 --> 00:43:43.760 saying there could be something nasty here 627 00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:44.880 because here's a PAMP. 628 00:43:46.560 --> 00:43:48.440 And if your thing you're injecting 629 00:43:48.440 --> 00:43:50.600 doesn't have PAMPs with it, 630 00:43:50.600 --> 00:43:52.960 then the immune system can get tricked. 631 00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:54.480 And these things will get in 632 00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:56.960 without the body giving a reaction to it. 633 00:43:58.720 --> 00:44:00.800 Again, these injected antigens, 634 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:04.280 these subunits they've given don't infect the cells. 635 00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:06.480 So we only get one type of immune response. 636 00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:09.160 We only get the antibody-mediated immune response, 637 00:44:09.160 --> 00:44:10.640 which means it's weaker. 638 00:44:10.640 --> 00:44:12.320 The response is weaker. 639 00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:14.040 It wanes with time. 640 00:44:14.040 --> 00:44:17.080 And so again, they need to do adjuvants. 641 00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:20.360 Adjuvants, these agents that they say 642 00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:21.800 stimulate the immune system. 643 00:44:21.800 --> 00:44:24.680 They should say irritate the immune system. 644 00:44:24.680 --> 00:44:26.480 And you need booster doses. 645 00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:29.200 Here's this wonderful booster word again. 646 00:44:29.200 --> 00:44:32.920 So in other words, we've stopped you using native immunity. 647 00:44:32.920 --> 00:44:36.360 We've stopped you using any nutrients or medications 648 00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:38.920 or drugs that can help you treat the disease. 649 00:44:38.920 --> 00:44:41.320 We're gonna make you dependent on these vaccines, 650 00:44:41.320 --> 00:44:42.720 but hey, guess what? 651 00:44:42.720 --> 00:44:44.280 They don't work properly. 652 00:44:44.280 --> 00:44:47.520 So you are going to have to, 653 00:44:47.520 --> 00:44:49.880 we have to put stuff in them to irritate your immune system 654 00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:51.200 to get a better immune response. 655 00:44:51.200 --> 00:44:54.520 And you are gonna have to have booster doses. 656 00:44:54.520 --> 00:44:56.920 And that's the way the vaccine industry works. 657 00:44:58.960 --> 00:44:59.800 So. 658 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.080 Again, this is from the Garvey site. 659 00:45:02.080 --> 00:45:04.120 They're saying, well, these subunit vaccines 660 00:45:04.120 --> 00:45:06.840 are made using living organisms, 661 00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:09.480 bacteria, yeast, and we need to grow them. 662 00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:11.200 And we've got to be careful with hygiene. 663 00:45:11.200 --> 00:45:12.600 And so, oh dear, I'm sorry, 664 00:45:12.600 --> 00:45:14.560 but that makes them more expensive to produce 665 00:45:14.560 --> 00:45:17.880 than a fully chemically synthesized vaccine 666 00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:19.840 like the RNA vaccines. 667 00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:24.240 So you see them starting to go, oh yeah, but. 668 00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:28.800 So then they talk a little bit 669 00:45:29.080 --> 00:45:31.000 of how this is done. 670 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:32.080 So the other thing to note 671 00:45:32.080 --> 00:45:34.840 about your purified protein subunit vaccines, 672 00:45:34.840 --> 00:45:36.880 and pretty much most of the vaccines, 673 00:45:36.880 --> 00:45:39.120 they need a preservative to keep it stable. 674 00:45:40.080 --> 00:45:42.800 So they also are adding preservatives to keep it stable. 675 00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:47.600 Now, historically, the preservative used was thimerosal, 676 00:45:47.600 --> 00:45:50.320 which is a mercury-containing preservative. 677 00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:54.520 Now, that was quietly removed from the vaccine industry. 678 00:45:54.520 --> 00:45:57.120 In general, there's still traces of it to be found, 679 00:45:57.120 --> 00:45:59.600 but from most vaccines and from the child vaccines 680 00:45:59.600 --> 00:46:00.920 a couple of years ago, 681 00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:02.920 it wasn't done with any amount of fanfare 682 00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:05.200 because to do it with fanfare would be to acknowledge 683 00:46:05.200 --> 00:46:07.200 that the thimerosal was a problem, 684 00:46:07.200 --> 00:46:09.760 which they've been studiously ignoring 685 00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:10.800 for many, many years. 686 00:46:10.800 --> 00:46:14.160 But the fact is mercury is a known neurotoxin, 687 00:46:14.160 --> 00:46:15.560 known immune toxin, 688 00:46:15.560 --> 00:46:17.160 and it was used as a preservative 689 00:46:17.160 --> 00:46:18.920 in all the childhood vaccines 690 00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:23.240 and pretty much all the vaccines up until only recently. 691 00:46:23.240 --> 00:46:24.600 So we've got preservatives in there. 692 00:46:24.600 --> 00:46:26.840 So it's now some other chemical preservative, 693 00:46:27.680 --> 00:46:28.880 and we've got aluminium. 694 00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:33.120 So it's now just over three. 695 00:46:33.120 --> 00:46:37.360 So what I need to do now is jump into my other Zoom call. 696 00:46:37.360 --> 00:46:40.640 So what I will do in that time before I come back on, 697 00:46:40.640 --> 00:46:42.880 which will probably be just a little bit after four, 698 00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:46.280 I'll get the right slide presentation going 699 00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:50.040 so that I can come back and properly, 700 00:46:50.040 --> 00:46:52.200 whoop, I just lost you there, Helice. 701 00:46:52.200 --> 00:46:53.360 I was about to look at you, 702 00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:58.360 and properly talk through how the immune system works. 703 00:46:59.040 --> 00:47:00.840 Because when you really get what I'm saying, 704 00:47:00.840 --> 00:47:03.720 T-cells and B-cells, and you know what that means, 705 00:47:03.720 --> 00:47:07.040 and you can visualise it in how the body's got it set up, 706 00:47:07.040 --> 00:47:09.120 then all the rest of what I'm going to talk into 707 00:47:09.120 --> 00:47:12.880 on the viral vaccines and the DNA and RNA vaccines 708 00:47:12.880 --> 00:47:15.240 will really start to make sense. 709 00:47:15.240 --> 00:47:16.560 Okay? 710 00:47:16.560 --> 00:47:19.320 So can everyone leave their computers as is, 711 00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:20.560 like on the Zoom call, 712 00:47:20.560 --> 00:47:21.520 and I'll just pause it, 713 00:47:21.520 --> 00:47:23.040 and then you just come back to your screen? 714 00:47:23.720 --> 00:47:25.600 Or is that going to be too difficult? 715 00:47:25.600 --> 00:47:27.360 That won't work for me 716 00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:29.280 because I've got to Zoom on this other one, 717 00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:31.280 but I can come back in on it anyway. 718 00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:32.640 I'll come back in on the link. 719 00:47:32.640 --> 00:47:34.720 Okay, so I'm going to leave this open. 720 00:47:34.720 --> 00:47:35.920 So just to let you all know, 721 00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:37.920 and I'm just going to pause it right now. 722 00:47:41.920 --> 00:47:43.080 Okay. 723 00:47:43.080 --> 00:47:46.960 Now, I'm just going to bring this slide back, 724 00:47:46.960 --> 00:47:49.840 and then I'm going to get myself onto screen share. 725 00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:54.120 So I've just had an absolutely incredible session. 726 00:47:54.120 --> 00:47:56.120 You would no doubt all know, 727 00:47:56.120 --> 00:47:58.040 would have all heard of Dr Peter McCulloch, 728 00:47:58.040 --> 00:48:01.160 who really is one of the world absolute leaders 729 00:48:01.160 --> 00:48:03.600 in the field at this point in time. 730 00:48:03.600 --> 00:48:07.320 And so this was an exclusive Zoom meeting, really, 731 00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:08.640 for Australian doctors, 732 00:48:08.640 --> 00:48:11.800 and there were 250 or odder of us on there 733 00:48:11.800 --> 00:48:15.880 where he spoke directly to us at a fairly high-pitched, 734 00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:18.640 very high-pitched, rapid-fire, 735 00:48:18.640 --> 00:48:21.160 papers being thrown at us level. 736 00:48:22.720 --> 00:48:23.960 Incredible stuff. 737 00:48:23.960 --> 00:48:27.520 So bit by bit, along with the rest of what I was going to do, 738 00:48:27.520 --> 00:48:30.560 I'll be teasing some of that out as it's relevant 739 00:48:30.560 --> 00:48:35.560 for you guys and passing on what we can. 740 00:48:35.640 --> 00:48:40.400 Now, I thought I'd made this come up into full screen, 741 00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:44.960 so I'm just going to try if I can get this up. 742 00:48:44.960 --> 00:48:45.800 I want to go. 743 00:48:46.720 --> 00:48:50.600 Elise, you've got it on me being able to do a screen share. 744 00:48:50.600 --> 00:48:52.520 Share screen. 745 00:48:52.520 --> 00:48:53.360 All right. 746 00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:55.800 Share screen. 747 00:48:55.800 --> 00:49:00.800 This top one, I think, is the right one. 748 00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:08.320 Zoom, come on, you can do it. 749 00:49:08.320 --> 00:49:09.240 Zoom us. 750 00:49:09.240 --> 00:49:10.960 Come on, computer. 751 00:49:10.960 --> 00:49:14.200 I've actually got two computers open now 752 00:49:14.200 --> 00:49:18.600 on separate connection networks in the trust 753 00:49:18.600 --> 00:49:22.400 that I will be able to get one of them to work. 754 00:49:24.240 --> 00:49:26.480 Click the lock to make changes. 755 00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:27.560 Oh, come on. 756 00:49:31.040 --> 00:49:32.760 It's doing stupid things here. 757 00:49:32.760 --> 00:49:35.480 It's not going to let me just simply do a screen share, 758 00:49:35.480 --> 00:49:38.960 so I'm going to see if I can jump computers 759 00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:41.200 and go back to the other one I had operating. 760 00:49:44.200 --> 00:49:49.200 Second, now up and running again. 761 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:11.120 And now we'll come back in to this new slide presentation so that we can take you through 762 00:50:11.120 --> 00:50:28.560 on the presentation. 763 00:50:28.560 --> 00:50:32.240 Robin in the chat people have asked if you can send the slides to me and I can pass them 764 00:50:32.240 --> 00:50:33.240 on to them as well. 765 00:50:33.240 --> 00:50:36.400 Is that possible as well please? 766 00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:37.400 Not in this form. 767 00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:43.040 No, these are my own personal notes and they're really not done as a form. 768 00:50:43.040 --> 00:50:50.240 The amount of work involved is massive. 769 00:50:50.240 --> 00:50:51.240 Why has that not come? 770 00:50:51.240 --> 00:50:58.520 I've emailed it from the other computer to this computer so I've got them on this computer. 771 00:50:58.520 --> 00:51:05.080 Look what I will do, seeing the screen share is being an absolute pain and I don't know 772 00:51:05.080 --> 00:51:08.280 why that email hasn't sent. 773 00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:15.320 I will send them to you but the only ones that I want sent up are the diagrams. 774 00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:21.200 If I send that to you now, are you able to get that? 775 00:51:21.200 --> 00:51:23.680 Or shall I just reset it to me and try? 776 00:51:23.680 --> 00:51:29.560 No, I can't because with recording it won't let me get onto my computer. 777 00:51:29.560 --> 00:51:36.640 I can continue to talk but I really wanted these diagrams and I've set two systems up 778 00:51:36.640 --> 00:51:45.480 now to do this and I keep being blocked and I don't understand why that hasn't come to 779 00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:46.480 here. 780 00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:54.280 Inbox, let's have another look, why has that not come? 781 00:51:54.280 --> 00:52:01.000 I'll just talk through the whole of the viral thing and the vaccine thing and the immune 782 00:52:01.000 --> 00:52:02.640 thing we'll have to come back to. 783 00:52:02.640 --> 00:52:09.200 I was talking about how we've got these four different vaccine types. 784 00:52:09.200 --> 00:52:16.640 We've got the whole vaccines which can be inactivated or they can be attenuated. 785 00:52:16.640 --> 00:52:24.200 We've got the subunit vaccines and now we're moving into the new types that they did, which 786 00:52:24.200 --> 00:52:37.080 are the types where we're having the problems. 787 00:52:37.080 --> 00:52:39.840 I'll skip over all the immune stuff because I can't show you that. 788 00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:46.360 I've got it here to look at but I can't show you that so I'll move on through. 789 00:52:46.360 --> 00:52:52.800 Okay, so when we come to the types, what's interesting when we look at these stories 790 00:52:52.800 --> 00:52:59.200 of what they've decided and how they've decided it, you get to see that there's certainly 791 00:52:59.200 --> 00:53:10.080 something very interesting about it. 792 00:53:10.080 --> 00:53:14.680 The plan has to do, and this is those beautiful diagrams which we'll talk through, so what 793 00:53:14.720 --> 00:53:17.720 are our available vaccines? 794 00:53:17.720 --> 00:53:26.720 Again, we've come in, oh, what is this doing? 795 00:53:26.720 --> 00:53:27.720 My goodness. 796 00:53:27.720 --> 00:53:30.720 Oh, it's gone backwards. 797 00:53:30.720 --> 00:53:38.920 All right, so our vaccine types, whole virus vaccines are live attenuated, our whole virus 798 00:53:38.920 --> 00:53:39.920 vaccines. 799 00:53:39.920 --> 00:54:03.480 So immune system immunity, our four vaccine types, so our subunit, protein subunit, now 800 00:54:03.480 --> 00:54:05.760 the viral vector vaccines. 801 00:54:05.760 --> 00:54:09.800 So these are a totally new type of vaccines. 802 00:54:10.680 --> 00:54:16.440 So what these are doing, they are using viruses, common viruses that have been around to carry 803 00:54:16.440 --> 00:54:23.480 stuff into our cells so that then our cells will make the thing. 804 00:54:23.480 --> 00:54:30.280 Now the idea is that the viruses themselves, the carriers have been inactivated so that 805 00:54:30.280 --> 00:54:32.760 they are not supposed to replicate. 806 00:54:32.760 --> 00:54:37.480 That's the idea behind it, these viruses are not supposed to replicate, they've been modified 807 00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:42.720 to bring in the genetic material from the thing they want us to make. 808 00:54:42.720 --> 00:54:47.480 So it instructs our body to start making a lot of this antigen, a lot of the stuff of 809 00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:49.640 what they're getting us to do. 810 00:54:49.640 --> 00:54:56.120 So it's a bit like it mimics what would happen with a natural pathogen, but not a natural 811 00:54:56.120 --> 00:54:59.880 pathogen, as I've said before, that's coming by the mouth or the nose or the gut. 812 00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:04.000 but something that could have been, say, injected by a mosquito. 813 00:55:04.000 --> 00:55:06.000 So that's your best analogy, 814 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:09.000 that the viral vector ones being injected by a vaccine 815 00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:12.000 are a bit like having it delivered via a mosquito. 816 00:55:14.000 --> 00:55:17.000 So we don't get colds and respiratory infections 817 00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:19.000 and stuff like that from mosquitoes, 818 00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:22.000 but we do get things like Ross River virus, 819 00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.000 we do get things like malaria. 820 00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:28.000 The body's responses are very different. 821 00:55:29.000 --> 00:55:32.000 So this will trigger. 822 00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:35.000 These viral vectors will get a strong cell response 823 00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:39.000 using both these T cells and these B cells. 824 00:55:39.000 --> 00:55:41.000 And they first had a play with this. 825 00:55:41.000 --> 00:55:46.000 The first one of these that they did was the Ebola viral vaccine. 826 00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:52.000 So, as I said, it's a delivery system. 827 00:55:52.000 --> 00:55:54.000 The virus itself is harmless. 828 00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:55.000 Adenovirus. 829 00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:59.000 Adenovirus is a common one that they use for this. 830 00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:00.000 So the adenovirus, 831 00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:03.000 so in particular when we come to talking about the vaccines we've got in use, 832 00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:06.000 you might have heard of the chimp adenovirus. 833 00:56:06.000 --> 00:56:08.000 So it's a type of common cold. 834 00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:10.000 So it's kind of like the chimp cold virus 835 00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:15.000 is one of the ones that they've used to give. 836 00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:19.000 They're supposed to be non-replicating. 837 00:56:19.000 --> 00:56:24.000 But the problem is that the viruses are grown inside cells, 838 00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:27.000 cell lines, human cell lines that are replicating. 839 00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:30.000 So sometimes there is a percentage, 840 00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:34.000 and they think they try and cap it at 10% of these viruses 841 00:56:34.000 --> 00:56:36.000 that will still replicate. 842 00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:39.000 So if these viruses who are carrying this foreign material 843 00:56:39.000 --> 00:56:43.000 are replicating, we are getting more of that material. 844 00:56:43.000 --> 00:56:45.000 Now, your next problem is that, again, 845 00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:49.000 these are being injected, infecting into our cells, 846 00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:54.000 and it's actually getting into the genetic material. 847 00:56:54.000 --> 00:57:04.000 The DNA from the DNA vaccines is getting into the DNA. 848 00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:09.000 And this gets the B cells as well as the B cells. 849 00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:14.000 Because it's foreign, the body starts to make stuff to it. 850 00:57:14.000 --> 00:57:17.000 Now, why have they not done as many of these vaccines, 851 00:57:17.000 --> 00:57:19.000 these particular types as they might have? 852 00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:23.000 They're a bit harder for them to upscale the manufacture. 853 00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:26.000 So the vaccine type that they've preferred, 854 00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:28.000 rather than just the viral vector ones 855 00:57:28.000 --> 00:57:30.000 where they've got to grow the virus, 856 00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:32.000 they've got to deactivate the virus, 857 00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:35.000 and they've got to put the DNA inside the virus, 858 00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:38.000 the ones that they prefer are the nucleic acid vaccines, 859 00:57:38.000 --> 00:57:43.000 the vaccines that are actually making from DNA and RNA. 860 00:57:44.000 --> 00:57:47.000 And these are containing the instructions 861 00:57:47.000 --> 00:57:49.000 for a specific protein from the pathogen. 862 00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:52.000 So it's giving our body the instructions. 863 00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:55.000 The immune system recognises it as a foreign problem, 864 00:57:55.000 --> 00:57:59.000 and then the body starts making. 865 00:57:59.000 --> 00:58:01.000 Now, the body actually, before that, 866 00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:05.000 the body is making those antigens. 867 00:58:05.000 --> 00:58:06.000 So they inject it. 868 00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:10.000 It gets injected into our cells. 869 00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:13.000 Once we're talking, the DNA one goes into the DNA, 870 00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:15.000 and that gets read and starts making it. 871 00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:17.000 The RNA one, the messenger RNA, 872 00:58:17.000 --> 00:58:20.000 sends a message to a particular protein package 873 00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:25.000 making stuff in the cells called endoplasmic reticulum, ER, 874 00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:31.000 and it starts churning out the proteins. 875 00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:36.000 And that churning of the proteins then triggers an immune response. 876 00:58:36.000 --> 00:58:38.000 So again, we think that comparing that 877 00:58:38.000 --> 00:58:40.000 to how a natural infection comes, 878 00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:42.000 a natural infection, as I keep saying, 879 00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:44.000 that's why we're going to talk about mucosal immunity, 880 00:58:44.000 --> 00:58:47.000 when I can find a way to make machines talk to each other, 881 00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:51.000 the mucosal immunity is really where the action is. 882 00:58:51.000 --> 00:58:54.000 But none of these vaccines are addressing mucosal immunity. 883 00:58:54.000 --> 00:58:57.000 These vaccines are all working by injecting something 884 00:58:57.000 --> 00:59:01.000 into the bloodstream, deep into the immune system. 885 00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:04.000 So this is quite a new technology. 886 00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:07.000 And prior to these COVID things, 887 00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:10.000 none had been approved for human use. 888 00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:12.000 None had been approved for human use. 889 00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:16.000 There was a horse vaccine against the West Nile virus, 890 00:59:16.000 --> 00:59:18.000 that was a DNA vaccine. 891 00:59:18.000 --> 00:59:22.000 But the interesting thing, and that's a little bit of a story, 892 00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:24.000 I was speaking to a vet on that one actually, 893 00:59:24.000 --> 00:59:26.000 so there's a bit of a separate story, 894 00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:30.000 but these equine vaccines turned out to be killing the horses 895 00:59:30.000 --> 00:59:32.000 somewhat faster. 896 00:59:32.000 --> 00:59:35.000 But that's a separate, that's an anecdote. 897 00:59:35.000 --> 00:59:38.000 So how do they do the DNA vaccines? 898 00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:41.000 They get a bit of the DNA and they stick it into a bacteria. 899 00:59:41.000 --> 00:59:45.000 Bacteria have got their own circular bits of DNA called plasmids, 900 00:59:45.000 --> 00:59:48.000 and this is how bacteria can mutate and multiply and do things, 901 00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:52.000 because they transmit genetic information across to other bacteria 902 00:59:52.000 --> 00:59:55.000 via these circular bits of DNA called plasma. 903 00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:57.000 And the plasmids are not part of the chromosomes, 904 00:59:57.000 --> 00:59:59.000 they're separate, they're separate bits. 905 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:05.120 and so it's a bit like a flash drive, you know, a bit like a thumb drive that you transfer 906 01:00:05.120 --> 01:00:11.600 and stuff. So they put this DNA into the bacterial plasmid and then get the bacteria to grow 907 01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:18.080 and then they take this plasmid out, isolate the antigen, all of that's really good, 908 01:00:18.080 --> 01:00:23.360 and inject it into the muscle. But the problem here is where they had a way, how do they get 909 01:00:23.360 --> 01:00:27.280 this stuff they've injected into the muscle to go into the cells? Because the body's got all 910 01:00:27.280 --> 01:00:33.600 these protective mechanisms to stop that happening. The body does not want any foreign 911 01:00:33.600 --> 01:00:38.000 injected anything to be getting into our cells and into our nuclei, that's not how the system works. 912 01:00:39.120 --> 01:00:44.880 So they had to find a way to trick the body in how to get that in. So how did they do that? 913 01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:48.480 They had a go with, and you might have heard, early in the piece they were trying electric 914 01:00:48.480 --> 01:00:52.720 current over little kind of guns that they would vibrate on the skin to create an electric current 915 01:00:52.720 --> 01:00:59.600 to get stuff across. They were trying to use helium gas to get it across, but they ended up 916 01:00:59.600 --> 01:01:05.840 deciding to do this thing of encapsulating the DNA into lipid nanoparticles. 917 01:01:07.840 --> 01:01:16.080 What are lipid nanoparticles? So nano, super small, 10 to the minus nine, tiny, tiny, tiny. 918 01:01:16.640 --> 01:01:23.760 The thing about nano-anythings, be wary of nano-anythings because nano-anythings totally 919 01:01:23.760 --> 01:01:31.360 bypass all our body normal barriers. They just plain get in. So nanoparticles are so small 920 01:01:31.360 --> 01:01:37.520 that none of the cellular control mechanisms work. So they're nano, super small, but they're lipid 921 01:01:38.160 --> 01:01:46.560 and they are four particular types of synthetic. Animal studies on these particular four synthetic 922 01:01:46.560 --> 01:01:51.200 lipids have shown them to be toxic, but that doesn't matter. They were turned into making 923 01:01:51.200 --> 01:01:57.360 synthetic lipid nanoparticles to encapsulate the DNA that they wanted in these vaccines. 924 01:01:59.360 --> 01:02:04.160 So the other interesting thing about your animal studies on these lipid nanoparticles is that the 925 01:02:04.160 --> 01:02:09.680 animal studies show that these lipid nanoparticles travel to particular organs and they have actually 926 01:02:09.680 --> 01:02:17.520 done a human study on the lipid nanoparticles. So this was a Japanese study on the bio-distribution, 927 01:02:17.520 --> 01:02:21.120 but it's not a study on the bio-distribution of the whole vaccine. It was just a study of 928 01:02:21.120 --> 01:02:26.160 the vaccines. It was a study on the bio-distribution of the lipid nanoparticles 929 01:02:26.320 --> 01:02:31.680 that in this study were empty. They didn't fill them, they were empty. 930 01:02:33.280 --> 01:02:39.440 So they injected these lipid nanoparticles, they concentrate in the ovary above all, 200 931 01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:45.360 times in the ovary above anywhere else. They also go to the spleen, they also go to the brain, 932 01:02:45.920 --> 01:02:52.400 they cross the blood-brain barrier, they go everywhere. So whereas historically with our 933 01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:58.560 vaccines we'd inject them into the deltoid muscle typically, and that's where it would essentially 934 01:02:58.560 --> 01:03:03.600 stay. You'd get a localised reaction, a little bit of it would travel through the bloodstream, 935 01:03:03.600 --> 01:03:07.680 but it wouldn't get into the cells and it certainly didn't get into every organ of the body. 936 01:03:09.120 --> 01:03:14.560 But these lipid nanoparticles are travelling through the body, proven in the study, and they 937 01:03:14.560 --> 01:03:19.280 stick in places like the ovary, particularly the spleen, which is where a lot of the immune system 938 01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:25.600 is focused, and the brain, but they do go everywhere. Why do they do lipids? Because our cell membranes 939 01:03:25.600 --> 01:03:33.360 are a lipid-protein-lipid tri-layer, and by making them lipid they will actually fuse 940 01:03:33.360 --> 01:03:38.400 with the cell membrane and open the cell and allow the DNA to get in. 941 01:03:40.080 --> 01:03:48.320 So that's what they do with those. So the idea with the RNA vaccine, so they use the 942 01:03:48.320 --> 01:03:54.160 templates in there, they're purely synthetic, so the DNA vaccines is still needed to grow stuff, 943 01:03:54.160 --> 01:04:02.000 the RNA vaccines are totally chemically made synthetic, so they can make them have a message 944 01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:09.440 for whatever they want them to have a message for, whatever. This brings a whole separate set of 945 01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:13.520 research where some other researchers have said, hang on, this mRNA is encoding for a few other 946 01:04:13.520 --> 01:04:23.200 things here, not just the spike protein, but a few other things here as well. So again, so 947 01:04:23.200 --> 01:04:31.440 that RNA, but messenger RNA normally within our own bodies, our own messenger RNA 948 01:04:31.440 --> 01:04:39.440 is very transitory, I mean very transitory. The body immediately says, I want you to make a protein, 949 01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:44.240 bang, it makes the mRNA to go to the endoplasmic reticulum to make the protein, then the messenger 950 01:04:44.240 --> 01:04:51.120 RNA is gone, it does not hang around. Now that clearly wouldn't work if they're doing, 951 01:04:52.800 --> 01:04:55.280 that clearly wouldn't work if they're doing a vaccine 952 01:04:56.240 --> 01:04:59.760 that's supposed to give a durable effect, so they've had to do things. 953 01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:02.800 to that messenger RNA to make it hang around a bit longer. 954 01:05:05.600 --> 01:05:13.840 So they used to say, in fact, the Gavi site quotes, there is zero risk of the messenger RNA 955 01:05:13.840 --> 01:05:18.720 integrating with our own genetic material. That's what the Gavi site says. Unfortunately, 956 01:05:18.720 --> 01:05:22.880 scientists are disputing that. We've got several reasons why we think that's not the case. 957 01:05:23.520 --> 01:05:32.080 Not the least of it being that some people have scriptase, which is a particular enzyme 958 01:05:32.080 --> 01:05:37.920 that can reverse read the message. Instead of the message being made out of the DNA across 959 01:05:37.920 --> 01:05:43.040 to the messenger RNA to tell the ribosomes what to make, some people have this reverse 960 01:05:43.040 --> 01:05:47.520 transcriptase gene that can reverse read what that messenger RNA is saying and stick it back 961 01:05:47.520 --> 01:05:56.560 into the DNA. Some 10% of our DNA has got a very close reaction with other, a close homology, 962 01:05:56.560 --> 01:06:02.640 if you like, has got sites that is very like other, like primitive virus and what have you, 963 01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:09.120 sites anyway. So there's already, it's called the herb site, but there is already a clustering, 964 01:06:09.120 --> 01:06:16.640 if you like, of things like BBV virus and things like that in this area. So the thought is that 965 01:06:16.640 --> 01:06:24.480 maybe it's going to join in there because it's an uncovered area. Our DNA, and this is a whole 966 01:06:24.480 --> 01:06:29.760 separate story in genetics, how God has designed it, that not everything that our DNA can encode 967 01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:36.080 for is being read. In fact, most of the time our DNA is coiled up and covered up and only little 968 01:06:36.080 --> 01:06:40.560 bits at a time of what God wants read, what's meant to be read are opened to be able to be read. 969 01:06:40.720 --> 01:06:46.160 So once inside the cell, once the DNA RNA is inside the cell, it triggers the body to start 970 01:06:46.160 --> 01:06:50.800 making the antigens. So this is where we come to this thing of, well, how does that then work? 971 01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:55.920 Well, it makes the spike, gets the body to make the spike protein. The body then sticks that, 972 01:06:55.920 --> 01:07:00.560 gets it out of its cellular structure and sticks this spike protein out on the surface of the cell 973 01:07:00.560 --> 01:07:07.200 attached to things called MHC, major histocompatibility complexes. So it's basically, 974 01:07:07.200 --> 01:07:11.360 this is, if you like, warning signals stuck on the outside of the cell, but then saying to other 975 01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:17.920 cells, quick guys, help me out here. This is inside my cell. This is a problem. Come help me 976 01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:24.720 fight it. So these are then sticking, the spike proteins are then sticking outside the cell 977 01:07:24.720 --> 01:07:31.360 membranes of the cells that have been infected. But because of what we're seeing with the delivery 978 01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:37.440 But because of what we're seeing with the delivery of these, these nanoparticles all 979 01:07:37.440 --> 01:07:42.160 through everywhere, these cells can be throughout, can be everywhere. 980 01:07:43.280 --> 01:07:50.640 These cells can be everywhere. So these cells are then, so these cells expressing the spike protein, 981 01:07:50.640 --> 01:07:55.840 the immune system comes along and says, that's a problem. I've got to make antibodies to it. 982 01:07:55.840 --> 01:08:05.520 Now, some of what it will normally, so again, when I get, can get it working with the pictures, 983 01:08:06.880 --> 01:08:12.080 that we have T cells, we have B cells, the B cells make antibodies. I'll talk to you later 984 01:08:12.080 --> 01:08:16.479 why they're called T and B, not because of their shape, anything in particular or colour or 985 01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:22.160 whatever, but it has to do with their origin. But B cells make antibodies and antibodies are 986 01:08:22.160 --> 01:08:28.640 claw-like structures that trap onto things and make it easier for your other killing 987 01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:34.319 cells to come along and find where they are and kill them. So the B cells think this through, 988 01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:39.760 these cells have just been, I've got spike protein stuck all over them. 989 01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:45.359 All our cells are around the place. They're now sticking spike protein out there, 990 01:08:46.080 --> 01:08:50.319 out their surfaces. So we're now making antibodies to our own cells. 991 01:08:52.160 --> 01:08:57.359 They're expressing the spike protein because our cells are making it and making it in an ongoing 992 01:08:57.359 --> 01:09:04.720 way. So it's not like an acute infection or an acute viral infection where you get some cells 993 01:09:04.720 --> 01:09:08.960 making it and we lose some cells in the process. What normally happens when you've got an acute 994 01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:14.479 viral infection is the virus comes along, multiplies massively in our cells, and that'll 995 01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:18.720 typically cause that cell to burst and die as the virus erupts from the cell. 996 01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:23.680 But we haven't got virus erupting from the cell. We've got spike protein being made on the cell, 997 01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:31.439 being made in the cell. So those cells, any cells making spike protein continue to be a target for 998 01:09:31.439 --> 01:09:41.279 the immune system. Yeah? For as long as they're making the spike protein and that, we don't know 999 01:09:41.279 --> 01:09:48.160 how long that is. Although Dr. McCulloch was saying there's a spike protein in the immune system, 1000 01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:54.240 being made for at least a year after each vaccine, I think, but it hasn't been around 1001 01:09:54.240 --> 01:09:59.920 that long to confirm that. But let's say it's a significant time. So that's UBC. 1002 01:10:00.000 --> 01:10:04.080 cells making antibodies but we also have other cells, T cells, that are called killer cells. 1003 01:10:04.720 --> 01:10:09.040 So their job is to just kill cells that are that are nastily infected so 1004 01:10:09.040 --> 01:10:11.200 it'll seek out and destroy infected cells. 1005 01:10:14.080 --> 01:10:20.640 So it's the T cells are killing our cells because they think our cells are the problem. 1006 01:10:20.640 --> 01:10:28.880 So it's a bit of a concern. 1007 01:10:30.400 --> 01:10:34.000 So they think they're very clever because they've got the way with the manufacture of 1008 01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:39.440 these RNA vaccines they can be done very very quickly very quickly once the pathogen's genome 1009 01:10:39.440 --> 01:10:44.640 is sequenced and there are a lot of disputes over what what is the sequence of of this 1010 01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:49.840 for various reasons but so they've got the sequence of the spy protein or the computer 1011 01:10:49.840 --> 01:10:53.760 generated sequence of the spike protein or the computer generated sequence of what if 1012 01:10:53.760 --> 01:10:56.560 whatever it is they'd like to have a computer generated sequence of. 1013 01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:00.880 It's quick and easy to design the vaccine against it. 1014 01:11:02.880 --> 01:11:08.400 So Moderna got their vaccine two months of having a genetic sequence. 1015 01:11:10.320 --> 01:11:15.840 So and then of course the Gavi is saying well this is wonderful you know we can we can get 1016 01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:20.640 vaccines up very very quickly in the face of new emerging epidemic pandemic pathogens that 1017 01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:26.400 are rapidly mutating look how quickly we can make a vaccine but hang on back to the first questions. 1018 01:11:27.440 --> 01:11:29.200 Is it necessary? 1019 01:11:30.640 --> 01:11:34.720 And when we come into looking at the side effects of vaccines what is very apparent 1020 01:11:35.360 --> 01:11:38.960 is that the more you vaccinate the more you get the mutations. 1021 01:11:39.920 --> 01:11:43.440 So both the DNA and the RNA vaccines are easy to produce 1022 01:11:44.720 --> 01:11:49.120 but again the RNA they prefer because they can make them totally synthetically and they're nice 1023 01:11:49.120 --> 01:11:54.320 and cheap they can be done in the same facility and the costs are far less so isn't that interesting 1024 01:11:54.320 --> 01:11:58.240 the RNA vaccines they're saying here are very cheap and very easy to make. 1025 01:11:59.040 --> 01:12:07.280 Anyone idea any idea how much Pfizer charge per capita for their RNA vaccine? 1026 01:12:09.200 --> 01:12:16.880 Yeah not quite that amount thank goodness but it's 50 to 60 dollars 1027 01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:21.360 but think that through on the billions that you're trying to get vaccinated. 1028 01:12:24.560 --> 01:12:35.120 So and yet AstraZeneca the Oxford so that was originally started off in the Oxford University 1029 01:12:35.120 --> 01:12:41.440 they wanted to do theirs non-profit they were only charging two dollars it's a bit of a difference 1030 01:12:41.440 --> 01:12:46.160 hey they were only charging two dollars it's interesting that theirs didn't make it off the 1031 01:12:46.160 --> 01:12:55.200 ground one wonders why. So Gavi now I might be able to this one because we're on back to this 1032 01:12:55.200 --> 01:12:58.960 computer this might allow me to share screen because I've already done it before so let's 1033 01:12:58.960 --> 01:13:08.800 see if we can oh no that's no it won't it won't all right I'll come back to here we will get those 1034 01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:15.600 I will get those nice pretty slides across to you so Gavi no I'm going to unshare screen 1035 01:13:17.040 --> 01:13:23.440 how do I make it unshare do that so Gavi is the global as I said the global alliance of 1036 01:13:23.440 --> 01:13:28.160 vaccination industry so I've got a pretty picture that I'll send you that shows you all the people 1037 01:13:28.160 --> 01:13:34.240 who were involved in Gavi and so you're founding people no surprises Bill and Melinda Gates 1038 01:13:34.240 --> 01:13:40.800 Foundation UNICEF World Bank World Health Organization then you've got governments who 1039 01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:44.000 are implementing the countries you've got the vaccine industry in the developing countries 1040 01:13:44.000 --> 01:13:48.560 the vaccine industry in the industrialized companies countries you've got a few independent 1041 01:13:48.560 --> 01:13:54.560 individuals so that's interesting to have a look on who all that is and so that's Gavi it's a very 1042 01:13:54.560 --> 01:13:59.520 interesting combination of people and this is the organization that is telling us this is what 1043 01:13:59.520 --> 01:14:04.960 we need to do and this is how we do it but Gavi is then linking up with another 1044 01:14:04.960 --> 01:14:08.720 organization called CEPI anyone heard of that C-E-P-I 1045 01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:17.440 yes Jacinda Ardern is another member Jacinda Ardern has got very interesting 1046 01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:21.600 yeah so Gavi is the is basically the financial instrument that's right 1047 01:14:21.600 --> 01:14:28.240 so CEPI Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness and Innovation so it's a global partnership 1048 01:14:28.240 --> 01:14:34.400 and when did they set that up this is very interesting 2017 to develop vaccines to stop 1049 01:14:34.400 --> 01:14:41.760 future epidemics so it's like yep let's get our organizations up and running let's get our RNA 1050 01:14:42.720 --> 01:14:49.200 vaccine technology developed our DNA technology developed so that that we can get it's going 1051 01:14:49.200 --> 01:14:56.160 where was it founded in Davos it was founded in Davos Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation welcome 1052 01:14:56.800 --> 01:14:59.920 and the World Economic Forum 1053 01:15:00.000 --> 01:15:02.400 along with governments of Norway and India, interestingly. 1054 01:15:02.400 --> 01:15:03.840 And then it's had financial support 1055 01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:07.200 from a whole long list of governments 1056 01:15:07.200 --> 01:15:08.600 and the private sector 1057 01:15:08.600 --> 01:15:12.880 and the UN Foundation Solidarity Response Fund. 1058 01:15:12.880 --> 01:15:14.840 So it's convincing everybody 1059 01:15:14.840 --> 01:15:17.080 that the only way to save the world 1060 01:15:17.080 --> 01:15:19.840 from all these future pandemics that are going to come, 1061 01:15:21.080 --> 01:15:22.640 interestingly, virtually all of them 1062 01:15:22.640 --> 01:15:24.760 are going to be derivatives from a coronavirus 1063 01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:27.400 that happened to be able to have been developed before 1064 01:15:27.400 --> 01:15:29.800 by gain of function research in a certain lab somewhere 1065 01:15:30.040 --> 01:15:31.960 but nevermind, I didn't say that. 1066 01:15:31.960 --> 01:15:35.840 So here we have these organisations set up 1067 01:15:35.840 --> 01:15:38.240 and so they have a pandemic plan. 1068 01:15:38.240 --> 01:15:39.960 So we need to watch out for this now 1069 01:15:39.960 --> 01:15:42.400 because in March this year, 1070 01:15:42.400 --> 01:15:43.960 March the 7th to 8th, 1071 01:15:43.960 --> 01:15:47.080 CEPI and the UK government are going to bring together 1072 01:15:47.080 --> 01:15:49.040 your leading figures from governments, industry, 1073 01:15:49.040 --> 01:15:51.680 philanthropies, philanthropy, 1074 01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:56.080 civil society for the Global Pandemic Preparedness Summit. 1075 01:15:57.080 --> 01:16:00.400 They're trying to get 3.5 billion to CEPI 1076 01:16:00.400 --> 01:16:05.400 to get ready to do these groundbreaking vaccine innovations. 1077 01:16:08.520 --> 01:16:10.920 They're trying to get vaccine development down to 100 days. 1078 01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:11.760 Well, that's great. 1079 01:16:11.760 --> 01:16:14.240 You develop a vaccine 100 days, 1080 01:16:14.240 --> 01:16:16.680 where is the assessment treatment time 1081 01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:18.880 for any effects of these vaccines? 1082 01:16:18.880 --> 01:16:19.720 There is none. 1083 01:16:21.120 --> 01:16:22.480 There is none. 1084 01:16:26.600 --> 01:16:28.800 So, and what's very interesting too 1085 01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:30.360 is to go back tracking through, 1086 01:16:30.360 --> 01:16:32.440 well, what about this vaccine development? 1087 01:16:32.440 --> 01:16:34.800 So you all heard of Imperial College. 1088 01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:37.200 Imperial College in London was the college, 1089 01:16:37.200 --> 01:16:40.760 the place that they used in the beginning of the pandemic, 1090 01:16:40.760 --> 01:16:42.800 very famous Neil Ferguson or infamous 1091 01:16:42.800 --> 01:16:44.120 might be the better word, 1092 01:16:44.120 --> 01:16:49.120 to model what the risk was going to be of SARS-CoV-2. 1093 01:16:51.160 --> 01:16:52.760 And the modelling was out, 1094 01:16:52.880 --> 01:16:54.680 perhaps as much of a hundred fold, 1095 01:16:54.680 --> 01:16:59.000 but it was certainly severely, severely out. 1096 01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:00.920 So December, 2018, 1097 01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:04.360 a US gave 8.4 million to the Imperial College in London 1098 01:17:05.480 --> 01:17:09.480 so that they would fund a self-amplifying 1099 01:17:10.720 --> 01:17:13.320 RNA vaccine platform. 1100 01:17:13.320 --> 01:17:17.040 Why did I just say self-amplifying? 1101 01:17:17.880 --> 01:17:18.920 What does that mean? 1102 01:17:19.240 --> 01:17:20.440 Self-amplifying. 1103 01:17:21.320 --> 01:17:23.120 What does that mean? 1104 01:17:23.120 --> 01:17:28.120 What that means is once the RNA is in the system, 1105 01:17:29.440 --> 01:17:32.160 it will keep growing. 1106 01:17:35.480 --> 01:17:38.280 The body will be continually exposed 1107 01:17:38.280 --> 01:17:41.840 to the message that RNA is giving it. 1108 01:17:45.560 --> 01:17:48.640 And that would so-called enable a tailored vaccine production 1109 01:17:49.400 --> 01:17:50.600 against multiple viral pathogens, 1110 01:17:50.600 --> 01:17:52.400 including your H1N1 flu, 1111 01:17:52.400 --> 01:17:56.000 your rabies virus and your Marburg virus. 1112 01:17:58.080 --> 01:17:59.720 Marburg's an interesting one. 1113 01:18:01.040 --> 01:18:03.520 December 2018, 10 million given 1114 01:18:03.520 --> 01:18:05.440 to the University of Queensland 1115 01:18:06.760 --> 01:18:08.800 for the molecular clamp platform. 1116 01:18:08.800 --> 01:18:10.280 Now the molecular clamp technology 1117 01:18:10.280 --> 01:18:12.520 in the UQ vaccine fell over 1118 01:18:12.520 --> 01:18:16.200 because in the trials people tested HIV positive. 1119 01:18:16.200 --> 01:18:17.600 So that didn't achieve what they wanted. 1120 01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:19.960 So they're back to the drawing board on that one. 1121 01:18:21.440 --> 01:18:23.600 And then in February 2019, 1122 01:18:23.600 --> 01:18:25.760 look at our timescale here, right? 1123 01:18:25.760 --> 01:18:29.840 February 2019, 34 million given 1124 01:18:29.840 --> 01:18:34.400 to the German-based CureVac biopharmaceutical company 1125 01:18:34.400 --> 01:18:38.240 to fund development of RNA printer prototype. 1126 01:18:38.240 --> 01:18:40.280 So CEPI called this a transportable, 1127 01:18:40.280 --> 01:18:44.680 downscalable automated mRNA printing facility. 1128 01:18:45.680 --> 01:18:50.200 So they print the stuff that's now not grown in cells 1129 01:18:50.200 --> 01:18:51.040 and not anything else. 1130 01:18:51.040 --> 01:18:55.000 You know, we're doing printing of messenger RNA 1131 01:18:55.000 --> 01:18:58.360 that can produce rapidly a supply 1132 01:18:58.360 --> 01:19:02.840 of lipid nanoparticle formulated messenger RNA vaccine. 1133 01:19:04.200 --> 01:19:06.320 So this is straight off the CEPI website. 1134 01:19:06.320 --> 01:19:08.080 I'm not making any of this up. 1135 01:19:08.080 --> 01:19:11.280 You can look it up yourselves on the CEPI website. 1136 01:19:11.280 --> 01:19:13.600 They can target known pathogens. 1137 01:19:14.000 --> 01:19:15.120 And what are they talking about? 1138 01:19:15.120 --> 01:19:17.240 Yellow fever, Lassa fever, rabies. 1139 01:19:17.240 --> 01:19:20.160 Ah, but can prepare for a rapid response 1140 01:19:20.160 --> 01:19:24.640 to unknown pathogens, i.e. disease X. 1141 01:19:27.680 --> 01:19:31.040 So we've got our messenger RNA platform ready 1142 01:19:31.040 --> 01:19:35.640 in our lipid nanoparticle formulated way of doing it, 1143 01:19:35.640 --> 01:19:39.520 ready for this disease X that is gonna magically appear 1144 01:19:41.520 --> 01:19:43.000 according to their timeframe. 1145 01:19:44.040 --> 01:19:48.920 So we've got a lovely quote from the head of CEPI, 1146 01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:51.160 a guy called Hatchett. 1147 01:19:51.160 --> 01:19:52.880 Oh, what was his first name? 1148 01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:53.720 I didn't write that. 1149 01:19:53.720 --> 01:19:54.560 It might've been Mark. 1150 01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:56.200 I don't remember now, but anyway, 1151 01:19:56.200 --> 01:20:00.120 in March, 2020, talking about SARS-CoV-2. 1152 01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:04.800 where he says, this is the most frightening disease that I have ever encountered in my career, 1153 01:20:05.760 --> 01:20:13.040 really. And that includes Ebola, includes MERS, includes SARS, and it's frightening because of 1154 01:20:13.040 --> 01:20:17.920 the combination of infectiousness and a lethality that appears to be many-fold higher than the flu. 1155 01:20:18.640 --> 01:20:21.680 Well, even by March 2020, it was known that that wasn't correct. 1156 01:20:21.680 --> 01:20:30.160 So, this is this incredible talking up over something with a lethality equivalent or less 1157 01:20:30.160 --> 01:20:39.680 than the flu. Yeah, as the reason for why CEPI. Now, one of the vaccines that CEPI funded, 1158 01:20:41.040 --> 01:20:44.240 oh, where are we going? Which way are you going? Computer, you've gone... 1159 01:20:44.240 --> 01:20:58.400 You've gone the wrong way. Okay, so, right, here we go. 1160 01:21:01.120 --> 01:21:08.800 So, CEPI particularly funded Moderna and Novavax. So, just bear that in mind when we come to 1161 01:21:08.800 --> 01:21:16.960 thinking, hey, Novavax is a safe alternative. Who funded it? CEPI. Hmm. Does that make it 1162 01:21:16.960 --> 01:21:26.880 likely that it's a safe one to have? I don't think so. So, the CEPI vaccines. So, again, 1163 01:21:26.880 --> 01:21:30.640 we'll send you the picture to show you these different types. So, we're coming to saying, 1164 01:21:30.640 --> 01:21:36.480 right, so remember, we've got these four types. We've got our protein subunits. We've got our 1165 01:21:36.480 --> 01:21:42.320 attenuated live. Now, there are no attenuated live vaccines being used in the coronavirus 1166 01:21:42.320 --> 01:21:50.960 vaccines. We've got our DNA vaccines. We've got inactivated vaccines and we've got our viral and 1167 01:21:50.960 --> 01:21:56.000 where they combine the viral and the DNA vaccines. So, what are some of our vaccines? Let's quickly 1168 01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:00.800 run through them. So, what's interesting is to see what the different vaccines are and where they are 1169 01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:06.720 because that tells the story as well and who they were developed by. So, the first big one, 1170 01:22:06.720 --> 01:22:14.720 Covaxin, this is an inactivated virus and it wasn't developed by CEPI or Gavi or any of those guys, 1171 01:22:14.720 --> 01:22:20.160 but it was developed in India by the Bharat Biotech Institute in collaboration with the 1172 01:22:20.160 --> 01:22:26.320 Indian Council of Medical Research and the Indian National Institute of Virology. So, 1173 01:22:26.400 --> 01:22:32.880 that's been used in a lot of people, 110 million people, and it's really a traditional technology. 1174 01:22:32.880 --> 01:22:41.200 It's rather like the Ponyo vaccine. There is a problem though that it needs adjuvant. So, 1175 01:22:41.200 --> 01:22:45.200 aluminium, it's being another carrier way of getting more aluminium into everyone, 1176 01:22:46.640 --> 01:22:51.040 but it's an old inactivated vaccine. So, millions of people done that way. 1177 01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:57.040 Then we've got the Coronavac or Sinovac. So, this is Chinese, a Chinese vaccine. 1178 01:22:59.600 --> 01:23:02.320 Again, an inactivated virus, 1179 01:23:05.680 --> 01:23:10.480 and it's been used on trial in places like Brazil, Chile, Indonesia, Philippines, and Turkey, 1180 01:23:12.160 --> 01:23:17.600 and has had emergency use approval. Now, this is the one that around the world has been the most 1181 01:23:18.400 --> 01:23:25.040 up until the recent push with Pfizer is the most widely used COVID vaccine in the world as of July 1182 01:23:25.040 --> 01:23:35.040 21, 943 million doses, almost a billion doses of this one go out, but this is an inactivated one. 1183 01:23:35.040 --> 01:23:40.560 There's no genetic fiddle with this. It's an old fashioned inactivated one. It does have adjuvants 1184 01:23:40.560 --> 01:23:49.040 as all the inactivated ones will have, not overly expensive. Yeah, but it's only been approved for 1185 01:23:49.040 --> 01:23:55.600 use in those kinds of countries. You can't get it in Australia. Then there's the Sinopharm. So, 1186 01:23:55.600 --> 01:24:01.280 that's another inactivated COVID vaccine, another one coming from China, but this has come from the 1187 01:24:01.280 --> 01:24:06.320 Beijing Institute of Biological Products. So, again, being tried in all these different sort 1188 01:24:06.320 --> 01:24:13.520 of places, Argentina, Bahrain, Egypt, Morocco, Pakistan, Peru, United Arab Emirates. So, again, 1189 01:24:13.520 --> 01:24:17.840 similar technology to the Coronavac and the Covaxin, and again, 1190 01:24:17.840 --> 01:24:37.760 I think by May, they'd given 2 million doses, 200 million approved. 1191 01:24:39.040 --> 01:24:45.760 So, they've been approved. So, in May, so that's not emergency use authorization, that's full 1192 01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:55.600 approval. So, there's a pretty picky there that when I get them through to you, that'll give the 1193 01:24:55.600 --> 01:24:59.840 viral vector vaccines. So, moving, talking in then to your 1194 01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:02.320 viral vector vaccines. 1195 01:25:02.320 --> 01:25:04.560 So the first one is your Sputnik. 1196 01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:06.080 So that's your Russian one. 1197 01:25:06.080 --> 01:25:06.920 Okay. 1198 01:25:06.920 --> 01:25:08.200 No connection with the other things. 1199 01:25:08.200 --> 01:25:11.400 So it's Gamaleya Research Institute of Epidemiology. 1200 01:25:11.400 --> 01:25:12.960 So it's a combination. 1201 01:25:12.960 --> 01:25:15.400 It was the world's first registered 1202 01:25:15.400 --> 01:25:16.760 combination vector vaccine. 1203 01:25:16.760 --> 01:25:19.680 So they were pretty ahead of everything. 1204 01:25:19.680 --> 01:25:21.800 So V, so Sputnik V, 1205 01:25:21.800 --> 01:25:23.480 so V for victory, 1206 01:25:23.480 --> 01:25:24.760 and Sputnik in all. 1207 01:25:24.760 --> 01:25:29.760 So it's a satellite. 1208 01:25:29.760 --> 01:25:31.520 They fight the world's first artificial 1209 01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:33.400 around 59 countries. 1210 01:25:34.240 --> 01:25:35.480 But again, it was, 1211 01:25:35.480 --> 01:25:36.880 it did come out pretty quickly. 1212 01:25:36.880 --> 01:25:37.920 And so there were arguments, 1213 01:25:37.920 --> 01:25:39.200 how did it come out so quickly? 1214 01:25:39.200 --> 01:25:40.280 We don't know about safety. 1215 01:25:40.280 --> 01:25:42.320 We don't know about efficacy, 1216 01:25:44.160 --> 01:25:45.440 mass distribution. 1217 01:25:45.440 --> 01:25:47.280 Again, all of these other countries, 1218 01:25:47.280 --> 01:25:49.560 Russia, Argentina, Belarus, Hungary, 1219 01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:51.880 Serbia, Pakistan, Philippines, 1220 01:25:51.880 --> 01:25:53.760 United Arab Emirates, 1221 01:25:53.760 --> 01:25:57.400 registered and certified in 71 countries, 1222 01:25:57.400 --> 01:25:59.200 more than a billion doses ordered. 1223 01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:13.520 We're moving into the adenoviral groups, 1224 01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:15.400 so viral vector or vector group. 1225 01:26:15.400 --> 01:26:16.480 So this is where we start getting 1226 01:26:16.480 --> 01:26:17.800 the combinations again. 1227 01:26:17.800 --> 01:26:19.560 So Janssen and Janssen, 1228 01:26:19.560 --> 01:26:22.960 or the one in the US known as Johnson and Johnson. 1229 01:26:22.960 --> 01:26:25.200 So it was developed by Janssen vaccines 1230 01:26:25.200 --> 01:26:26.040 in the Netherlands. 1231 01:26:26.040 --> 01:26:27.000 That's why the name flips, 1232 01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:28.400 Janssen or Johnson and Johnson. 1233 01:26:28.400 --> 01:26:30.760 So again, a viral vector vaccine 1234 01:26:30.760 --> 01:26:32.280 using a virus to carry it in, 1235 01:26:32.280 --> 01:26:34.080 again, using the adenovirus, 1236 01:26:34.080 --> 01:26:36.760 but this one's using a human adenovirus. 1237 01:26:36.760 --> 01:26:38.600 This one's a human adenovirus 1238 01:26:38.600 --> 01:26:40.200 that's been modified 1239 01:26:40.200 --> 01:26:43.160 to make the gene for the spike protein. 1240 01:26:43.160 --> 01:26:45.440 So the immune system responds to that. 1241 01:26:45.440 --> 01:26:48.960 The advantages from people's perspective 1242 01:26:48.960 --> 01:26:52.320 of all your adenoviral vaccines, 1243 01:26:53.280 --> 01:26:55.440 is it only needs one dose. 1244 01:26:55.440 --> 01:26:59.040 So, whereas your other ones need multiple doses. 1245 01:26:59.040 --> 01:27:02.440 So obviously your US big vaccine companies 1246 01:27:02.440 --> 01:27:04.240 weren't terribly pleased about that. 1247 01:27:09.040 --> 01:27:11.960 Coming out with something that only needs 1248 01:27:11.960 --> 01:27:13.000 not good marketing. 1249 01:27:14.800 --> 01:27:18.160 So it had approval, 1250 01:27:18.160 --> 01:27:19.200 conditional approval, 1251 01:27:19.200 --> 01:27:24.200 emergency authorization for USA, Europe, UK. 1252 01:27:24.240 --> 01:27:26.600 But then it started turning up 1253 01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:29.080 this thrombotic thrombocytopenic syndrome 1254 01:27:30.080 --> 01:27:31.040 and Guillain-Barré. 1255 01:27:31.040 --> 01:27:33.080 So thrombotic thrombocytopenic syndrome 1256 01:27:33.080 --> 01:27:34.360 is where you lose your platelets, 1257 01:27:34.360 --> 01:27:36.000 where you get abnormal platelet action. 1258 01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:36.840 So you're clotting, 1259 01:27:36.840 --> 01:27:38.200 but then you lose your platelets 1260 01:27:38.200 --> 01:27:39.400 and so you're bleeding. 1261 01:27:40.840 --> 01:27:43.600 Guillain-Barré is an abnormal immune 1262 01:27:44.120 --> 01:27:47.120 immune thing that's affecting your spinal cord. 1263 01:27:47.120 --> 01:27:50.680 These things started to be reported. 1264 01:27:50.680 --> 01:27:51.520 So they then said, 1265 01:27:51.520 --> 01:27:54.880 oh, can't be used in anyone who's too young. 1266 01:27:57.200 --> 01:27:59.080 So it became preferential. 1267 01:27:59.080 --> 01:28:01.240 So isn't this convenient for Pfizer? 1268 01:28:01.240 --> 01:28:05.000 Preferential to use the mRNA COVID-19 vaccines 1269 01:28:05.000 --> 01:28:06.280 says the US CDC. 1270 01:28:06.280 --> 01:28:08.160 So it had all these inactivated vaccines 1271 01:28:08.160 --> 01:28:09.160 that could be used. 1272 01:28:09.160 --> 01:28:10.280 Protein subunit vaccines, 1273 01:28:10.280 --> 01:28:15.280 but no, it's preferential to use the mRNA vaccines 1274 01:28:15.960 --> 01:28:17.080 for anyone over 18. 1275 01:28:19.800 --> 01:28:22.880 And again, the AstraZeneca, very similar story. 1276 01:28:22.880 --> 01:28:25.480 It's again, a viral vector vaccine, 1277 01:28:25.480 --> 01:28:26.680 again, an adenovirus, 1278 01:28:26.680 --> 01:28:28.600 but this one's a chimpanzee adenovirus. 1279 01:28:28.600 --> 01:28:30.280 And this was the one that was developed 1280 01:28:30.280 --> 01:28:31.760 by the Oxford University 1281 01:28:31.760 --> 01:28:33.640 in conjunction with AstraZeneca, 1282 01:28:33.640 --> 01:28:35.560 British, Swedish, and the UK. 1283 01:28:35.560 --> 01:28:37.880 So it's a viral vector vaccine. 1284 01:28:37.880 --> 01:28:40.960 AstraZeneca, British, Swedish company, AstraZeneca. 1285 01:28:41.800 --> 01:28:43.960 It was effective. 1286 01:28:43.960 --> 01:28:45.680 This one was a two dose thing, 1287 01:28:45.680 --> 01:28:49.800 but it was set up as a $2 dose non-profit. 1288 01:28:56.520 --> 01:28:57.920 But again, it was... 1289 01:28:59.320 --> 01:29:01.720 But what's interesting is when you analyze the VigiBase, 1290 01:29:01.720 --> 01:29:03.240 your thrombotic thrombotic events 1291 01:29:03.240 --> 01:29:05.120 do also occur with Moderna, 1292 01:29:05.120 --> 01:29:06.960 do also occur with Pfizer, 1293 01:29:06.960 --> 01:29:08.400 as do all these other things. 1294 01:29:09.320 --> 01:29:12.160 But AstraZeneca got wiped off pretty much. 1295 01:29:13.160 --> 01:29:16.000 And from a purely marketing financial thing, 1296 01:29:16.000 --> 01:29:19.040 you can really see why we can't have the whole world 1297 01:29:19.040 --> 01:29:20.960 vaccinated with a $2 vaccine 1298 01:29:22.280 --> 01:29:24.600 when we can charge the whole world $50. 1299 01:29:29.960 --> 01:29:31.840 So by default, really, 1300 01:29:31.840 --> 01:29:34.680 the Pfizer vaccine became a major one 1301 01:29:34.680 --> 01:29:36.760 in the whole of the Western world. 1302 01:29:37.960 --> 01:29:41.920 You see, by convincing everyone 1303 01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:44.600 that the other ones were more dangerous, 1304 01:29:44.600 --> 01:29:48.160 then they could more easily slide under the rug 1305 01:29:48.160 --> 01:29:53.160 and not admit to the dangers for the mRNA. 1306 01:29:54.280 --> 01:29:57.000 So, but just coming back to why the AstraZeneca 1307 01:29:57.000 --> 01:29:58.080 might have caused this problem. 1308 01:29:58.080 --> 01:30:00.040 So with remembering that all of these... 1309 01:30:00.000 --> 01:30:05.680 synthetic DNA, synthetic RNA. They've manufactured stuff. Okay, they've manufactured stuff. 1310 01:30:05.680 --> 01:30:10.800 So what have they done with the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein for the AstraZeneca? 1311 01:30:10.800 --> 01:30:16.720 They've linked it with some stuff called tissue plasminogen activator. Well, that's a bit silly 1312 01:30:16.720 --> 01:30:21.440 when you think it through, because tissue plasminogen activator is what the body uses to 1313 01:30:21.440 --> 01:30:31.680 activate your tissues in the beginning of the clotting cascade. So it's going to activate 1314 01:30:31.680 --> 01:30:45.760 your cells, and it did. Other things that they link things with that they often don't think too 1315 01:30:45.760 --> 01:30:51.440 much about that will cause other problems. So it ended up that the AstraZeneca got suspended 1316 01:30:52.320 --> 01:30:57.920 either temporarily or partially or fully in numerous countries. So South Africa, 1317 01:30:57.920 --> 01:31:04.560 most of Europe, Canada, Indonesia, Australia, Malaysia. So either a full suspension 1318 01:31:05.680 --> 01:31:09.600 or just said to only be used for a small number of indications. 1319 01:31:09.600 --> 01:31:17.360 I'm picky for the mRNA vaccine. So then we come to the spike vaccine. So we haven't got 1320 01:31:17.360 --> 01:31:22.320 much of that in Australia. It's kind of starting to come in. So this is the Moderna vaccine. So 1321 01:31:22.320 --> 01:31:28.480 again, another US company, and this is another one that was funded. So covered by CEPI, funded 1322 01:31:29.120 --> 01:31:34.080 and developed by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. 1323 01:31:34.640 --> 01:31:40.800 So NIAID, the National Institute of Allergy. And this of course is one of those nice controversial 1324 01:31:40.800 --> 01:31:49.040 US agencies headed up by you all know who, and the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development 1325 01:31:49.040 --> 01:31:57.360 Authority. So this already had some interesting connections, CEPI, NIAID. Okay. So some places 1326 01:31:57.360 --> 01:32:02.400 say it can be used in anyone over 12, others say it can be used in anyone over 18. And of course, 1327 01:32:03.360 --> 01:32:09.360 they singled out Australia as the place to trial it in children, two or three doses. 1328 01:32:09.360 --> 01:32:17.920 So this is the first of our mRNA vaccines. So it's modified. So it's not just that it's messenger 1329 01:32:17.920 --> 01:32:21.920 RNA. Remember I said earlier, the thing in our body is that mRNA disappears quickly. 1330 01:32:22.800 --> 01:32:29.760 Our body makes it briefly, wipes it because it doesn't want these ongoing messages. 1331 01:32:29.760 --> 01:32:34.800 So they nucleoside modified the messenger RNA, they had to, to make it hang around. 1332 01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:41.520 That encodes for the spike protein of the SARS-CoV-2, but they've altered that as well. 1333 01:32:41.520 --> 01:32:47.040 So the coding of the spike protein is altered. And it's encapsulated in lipid nanoparticles. 1334 01:32:48.320 --> 01:32:50.560 So straight away, we've got three points of problem. 1335 01:32:52.400 --> 01:32:56.720 And this is before we have anything else that might be added to these vaccines. 1336 01:32:59.920 --> 01:33:07.600 So it was halted in Finland, Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark, 1337 01:33:07.600 --> 01:33:13.280 in young people because they discovered myocarditis, pericarditis occurring more frequently. 1338 01:33:16.160 --> 01:33:26.240 But then kind of got restarted. So this messenger nucleoside messenger alteration, 1339 01:33:26.240 --> 01:33:33.040 this modified messenger RNA, what they did was they stuck into proline molecules. 1340 01:33:34.000 --> 01:33:37.920 Proline is an amino acid. We have lots of it in our body. It in itself isn't a problem, 1341 01:33:37.920 --> 01:33:40.960 but it's an amino acid in our connective tissue, 1342 01:33:42.000 --> 01:33:47.280 particularly. Why is it in our connective tissue? Because proline has this ability to cross link. 1343 01:33:49.520 --> 01:33:53.360 So what they did by sticking proline into the messenger RNA, they basically made it that this 1344 01:33:53.360 --> 01:34:00.320 messenger RNA was going to be sticky. Not so easy to break down. They made it sticky. 1345 01:34:01.280 --> 01:34:09.040 So they call them stabilising mutations. So the original amino acids in the messenger RNA are 1346 01:34:09.040 --> 01:34:15.440 replaced with proline. They make it sticky, so it won't break down. Then once the proteins 1347 01:34:15.440 --> 01:34:21.440 extend, expelled from the cells detected by the immune system. So their drug delivery system, 1348 01:34:21.440 --> 01:34:29.680 they call it the LNP, lipid nanoparticle system. So it is a pigulated lipid nanoparticle system, 1349 01:34:29.680 --> 01:34:36.640 pig. Polyethylene glycol. Polyethylene glycol, otherwise known to most people as antifreeze, 1350 01:34:37.520 --> 01:34:45.360 a synthetic lipid stuff. Why would they want to use antifreeze in the synthetic lipids for the 1351 01:34:45.440 --> 01:34:52.320 nanoparticle? Because it's a very stable thing that helps give it more stability. The messenger 1352 01:34:52.320 --> 01:34:57.200 RNA was desperately temperature sensitive. So that's part of why they have to keep it in 1353 01:34:57.200 --> 01:34:59.840 all this cold storage. But they tried to make it a bit more... 1354 01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:06.480 able to cope with things by sticking it in the impregnated lipid nanoparticles so that the 1355 01:35:06.480 --> 01:35:11.200 lipid nanoparticle was going to be stable at the cold temperatures the mRNA needed to be stable. 1356 01:35:12.720 --> 01:35:19.280 So another synthetic thing and people do have allergy to PEG, polyethylene glycol, well documented. 1357 01:35:21.680 --> 01:35:28.720 So what else did they do to it? So the mRNA sequence has got 4,000 nucleotides, 4,000 1358 01:35:28.720 --> 01:35:34.080 amino acids in it. That's an awful lot of places, that's an awful lot of things, 1359 01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:37.920 so 4,000. So the other thing they did, 1360 01:35:40.720 --> 01:35:46.080 one of the other things they did was they substituted all, so there are four 1361 01:35:46.080 --> 01:35:53.600 amino nucleic acid bases that make up our DNA and RNA and uridine is one of those. 1362 01:35:54.400 --> 01:36:00.240 So they altered the uridine and replaced it with stuff called N1 methyl pseudouridine. 1363 01:36:04.240 --> 01:36:07.360 We don't yet know exactly why or exactly what that's going to do, 1364 01:36:08.320 --> 01:36:17.200 but it can't be good. It's not a natural nucleic acid found in our cells. So given that it's been 1365 01:36:17.360 --> 01:36:23.440 So given that it's been put into a messenger RNA that our cells are being forced to keep on making 1366 01:36:23.440 --> 01:36:27.280 and that it's going to hang around a lot longer than messenger RNA should do, 1367 01:36:27.280 --> 01:36:31.200 there are certainly going to be some kind of problems from that. So the other thing they 1368 01:36:31.200 --> 01:36:35.760 did was that they flanked this messenger, these uridines, they put on either side of the uridine 1369 01:36:35.760 --> 01:36:42.960 some other stuff and part of what they did was an untranslated region, an artificial region, 1370 01:36:42.960 --> 01:36:46.240 derived from our human haemoglobin molecule. 1371 01:36:47.840 --> 01:36:54.320 Why the heck would you want to put messengering or copying of our human haemoglobin molecule into 1372 01:36:54.320 --> 01:37:00.320 this unless you're looking to find some kind of way to have us be making antibodies to our 1373 01:37:00.320 --> 01:37:08.880 human haemoglobin? It's strange. So there's something around the human alpha globin gene 1374 01:37:08.880 --> 01:37:18.160 there as well. All in these nice synthetic nanoparticles. So they also have cholesterol, 1375 01:37:18.160 --> 01:37:23.360 they've got the polyethylene glycol, they've got a synthetic phosphocholine and another 1376 01:37:23.360 --> 01:37:33.360 substance called SM-102. Don't yet know what that one is. So again, all these modifications. 1377 01:37:33.360 --> 01:37:37.680 So you start to get the feel that they try to sell you that this is pure and all we're doing 1378 01:37:37.680 --> 01:37:41.440 is giving you the message to make the spike protein so that you'll make antibodies to your 1379 01:37:41.440 --> 01:37:46.000 spike protein. You start to delve a bit deeper and you see that there's a lot else going on here. 1380 01:37:46.000 --> 01:37:52.800 It is simply not that clean. So then we come to the Cominati, the Pfizer BioNTech and this really 1381 01:37:52.800 --> 01:37:57.360 is the big guy now because this is the one that is being pushed out everywhere. This is the one 1382 01:37:57.360 --> 01:38:02.080 that's being of course run through Israel on their third dose, heading for their fourth dose now. 1383 01:38:03.040 --> 01:38:07.200 Evidently so the same things happen in Chile. Chile has also run fourth dose. 1384 01:38:07.200 --> 01:38:14.080 Australia is pushing for the third dose. It's being pushed everywhere. So this is your German 1385 01:38:14.080 --> 01:38:20.080 biotech company BioNTech collaborating with the US Pfizer. Some places for greater than 1386 01:38:20.080 --> 01:38:24.320 five-year-old. Well Australia is now rolling out in our greater than five-year-olds. Other places 1387 01:38:24.320 --> 01:38:29.440 are saying 12 years, others are saying 16 years. What's interesting is the World Health Organization 1388 01:38:29.520 --> 01:38:31.760 is saying it should not be used in anyone under 12. 1389 01:38:34.160 --> 01:38:41.440 So again it's a nucleoside modified mRNA and it's encapsulated in these lipid nanoparticles. 1390 01:38:43.200 --> 01:38:49.920 This one was the first to be cleared for regular use. As in it's no longer emergency 1391 01:38:49.920 --> 01:39:00.160 use authorization, it is regular use. If they can get it approved for regular use in children, 1392 01:39:00.800 --> 01:39:07.440 which is what the companies are trying to do in the US, we're still kind of emergency in 1393 01:39:07.440 --> 01:39:12.080 Australia. It hasn't really been fully approved but it's being rolled out. 1394 01:39:13.040 --> 01:39:23.440 The issue is that in 1986 the vaccine industry had it passed through the US government that 1395 01:39:23.440 --> 01:39:30.160 they are totally indemnified against any side effects of any of the childhood vaccines. 1396 01:39:30.720 --> 01:39:38.080 Note that any of the childhood vaccines. If you can get Comirnaty approved as a child vaccine, 1397 01:39:38.880 --> 01:39:43.040 then it doesn't matter whether it's used in adults as well or not, they are totally indemnified. 1398 01:39:45.520 --> 01:39:49.520 So this is part of the push to get it down into children because then they can market 1399 01:39:49.520 --> 01:39:52.640 it through everywhere and there is literally no comeback anywhere from anyone. 1400 01:39:55.920 --> 01:39:59.040 So think that through if you're going to buy another product somewhere. 1401 01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:06.640 trying to sell your car. No, we haven't tested the car. No, we don't know how it runs. Yeah, 1402 01:40:06.640 --> 01:40:10.240 look, it's new. We just made it. Yeah, it's new. It's great. You know, no, we haven't tested it. 1403 01:40:11.520 --> 01:40:15.440 Okay, well, what about if there's a problem with it? No, sorry, if there's a problem with it? No, 1404 01:40:15.440 --> 01:40:19.840 no, you know, no, there's just not a problem with it. No, no, you know, would you buy that thing? 1405 01:40:20.960 --> 01:40:24.080 You know, of course we wouldn't. But this is what we're doing with these vaccines. 1406 01:40:24.080 --> 01:40:32.480 So September 21, 1.5 billion have been shipped worldwide. They're going to make 2.5 billion 1407 01:40:32.480 --> 01:40:40.080 doses by March. And this is a vaccine that has a logistical challenge. It's not expensive for 1408 01:40:40.080 --> 01:40:48.240 them to make. It's very cheap for them to make. It's very expensive for all the countries who 1409 01:40:48.240 --> 01:40:52.960 go to have it with the logistics and storage because it has to be kept within this very 1410 01:40:52.960 --> 01:40:58.160 narrow temperature range. They have to have very good refrigeration facilities. So in other words, 1411 01:40:58.160 --> 01:41:01.360 we've made it cheaply, we're making good money, we now pass the buck to you. 1412 01:41:02.800 --> 01:41:07.360 The whole buck, the cost of it, they're looking after the people who were damaged by it. 1413 01:41:15.040 --> 01:41:21.200 What's happening here? Why won't you move forward? Okay, so what are the official side effects? And 1414 01:41:21.200 --> 01:41:25.920 of course, this is a very, very iffy story, because nowhere has there been really good 1415 01:41:25.920 --> 01:41:33.760 official side effect taking. So in May 21, experts commissioned by the Norwegian Medicines Agency 1416 01:41:34.320 --> 01:41:39.600 concluded that the vaccine was the cause of death for 10 frail elderly patients in Norwegian nursing 1417 01:41:39.600 --> 01:41:45.840 homes. So they made the recommendation that people with very short life expectancies have little to 1418 01:41:45.840 --> 01:41:51.520 gain from the vaccination and have a real risk of adverse reactions in the last days of life 1419 01:41:51.520 --> 01:41:59.440 and of dying earlier. Well, surprise, surprise. We all know that this, in fact, is the group 1420 01:41:59.440 --> 01:42:06.240 that have been dying very quickly from the vaccines. Yes, they're at higher risk of the COVID, 1421 01:42:06.240 --> 01:42:12.400 but it appears they're at higher risk from the vaccines. Myocarditis. So June 21, Israel's 1422 01:42:12.400 --> 01:42:16.400 Ministry of Health officially announced a relationship between the second dose and 1423 01:42:16.400 --> 01:42:24.320 myocarditis in your 16 to 30-year-old men. Now, big issues, and this is one thing Dr. Peter McCulloch 1424 01:42:24.320 --> 01:42:28.480 was coming out with, big issues around the definition, you know, how they're diagnosing it. 1425 01:42:28.480 --> 01:42:35.120 Most of these cases are absolutely being missed. So they said that there was only 55 per million 1426 01:42:36.080 --> 01:42:42.400 and that 95 percent of them were mild. By April 21, more are being reported, 1427 01:42:42.400 --> 01:42:51.280 mostly male over the age of 16. We are now, medically, they are now using cardiac MRIs 1428 01:42:51.280 --> 01:42:59.600 to look at your myocarditis patients. So this is a very specific form of MRI that is a gallium-gated 1429 01:42:59.680 --> 01:43:06.160 MRI. And interestingly, New South Wales, Australia now has a specific Medicare item number for 1430 01:43:06.160 --> 01:43:11.760 cardiac MRIs. It's a new item number. It's a new deal. It wasn't meaning to be, we never, 1431 01:43:11.760 --> 01:43:16.400 I've not done one in my entire medical career prior to. 1432 01:43:19.600 --> 01:43:22.880 But what Dr. McCulloch reported in a case series that has been written, 1433 01:43:23.840 --> 01:43:32.080 every one of the young men that they did a cardiac-gated MRI on showed damage on the MRI, 1434 01:43:32.080 --> 01:43:40.080 the cardiac MRI. Most of these young men had not been diagnosed. They presented just with fatigue, 1435 01:43:41.040 --> 01:43:46.240 a bit of shortness of breath, maybe a bit of chest pain, but really not much. And yet, 1436 01:43:46.240 --> 01:43:51.760 every one of them on the cardiac MRI had damage. So I think the myocarditis issue is way, way, 1437 01:43:52.160 --> 01:44:00.480 bigger than it's officially reported. So again, this, what have they done with it? Very, 1438 01:44:00.480 --> 01:44:06.160 very similar to the Moderna. It's got these proline things to make it sticky so it won't break 1439 01:44:06.160 --> 01:44:15.520 down. It's got the altered, they've got, they've pulled out all uridine, replaced it with this 1440 01:44:15.520 --> 01:44:21.040 methyl-3 pseudouridyl, which I do have to search out exactly what that's doing. 1441 01:44:24.240 --> 01:44:30.640 Yep. So that's that vaccine and the lipid nanoparticles. Okay. So what's interesting, 1442 01:44:30.640 --> 01:44:35.760 who, where are the countries that this is predominantly being sent to? It is predominantly 1443 01:44:35.760 --> 01:44:42.080 all your Western European countries. So Argentina, Australia, Bahrain, Canada, yes, Chile, Costa Rica, 1444 01:44:42.080 --> 01:44:49.280 Ecuador, Hong Kong, Iraq, Israel, John Craig, Malaysia, Panama, Philippines, Singapore, 1445 01:44:50.000 --> 01:44:57.120 United States, Vietnam. So there's certainly, it's predominantly into the West. 1446 01:44:58.720 --> 01:45:00.000 So is there any alternative? 1447 01:45:00.000 --> 01:45:05.880 So as you, I'm not sure if it's the same thing in New Zealand, but certainly in Australia, 1448 01:45:05.880 --> 01:45:09.680 the Novavax is coming out now and this is, you know, everyone's been hailing, hey, Novavax, 1449 01:45:09.680 --> 01:45:12.320 Novavax, this is our safe one, can we do Novavax? 1450 01:45:12.320 --> 01:45:18.280 But as I touched on right in the beginning, Novavax was also a CEPI funded vaccine. 1451 01:45:18.280 --> 01:45:22.400 So it's coming out of the same group and out of the same headspaces. 1452 01:45:22.400 --> 01:45:25.000 Now it is a subunit vaccine. 1453 01:45:25.000 --> 01:45:30.200 When I spoke, going back to the beginning, I spoke about your whole vaccines that could 1454 01:45:30.200 --> 01:45:34.000 be attenuated or inactivated. 1455 01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:39.920 I spoke about the subunit vaccines where they've taken a precise little bit out and amplified 1456 01:45:39.920 --> 01:45:40.920 that. 1457 01:45:40.920 --> 01:45:42.400 So this is a subunit vaccine. 1458 01:45:42.400 --> 01:45:48.000 Dr. Robynne, could I just ask you something concerning that? 1459 01:45:48.000 --> 01:45:50.280 Can I finish talking? 1460 01:45:50.280 --> 01:45:53.640 Questions when I finish. 1461 01:45:53.640 --> 01:45:59.200 So it's a subunit vaccine, but it's conjugated. 1462 01:45:59.200 --> 01:46:03.640 So they actually call it a recombinant nanoparticle vaccine. 1463 01:46:03.640 --> 01:46:08.320 So it's not just a subunit, but it's nanoparticles and it's recombinant. 1464 01:46:08.320 --> 01:46:11.200 They have engineered and made it. 1465 01:46:11.200 --> 01:46:15.760 So it's a virus-like particle, but also a subunit. 1466 01:46:15.760 --> 01:46:17.240 So how have they done this? 1467 01:46:17.240 --> 01:46:25.680 They have taken a bacteria, well, bacillovirus and plasmid and engineered it to do a modified 1468 01:46:25.680 --> 01:46:26.680 spike protein. 1469 01:46:26.680 --> 01:46:29.320 Again, it's not the straight spike protein. 1470 01:46:29.320 --> 01:46:31.120 It's an auto spike protein. 1471 01:46:31.120 --> 01:46:35.120 Again, it's got the proline amino acid residues to make it sticky. 1472 01:46:35.120 --> 01:46:37.520 So it's going to hang around. 1473 01:46:37.520 --> 01:46:43.080 Then they stick that into your moss and then the moss grow it and make the spike protein 1474 01:46:43.080 --> 01:46:44.880 and then they harvest that. 1475 01:46:45.120 --> 01:46:50.120 Then they stick it again into the lipid nanoparticles. 1476 01:46:50.120 --> 01:46:53.640 So it's straight away, we've got those two things. 1477 01:46:53.640 --> 01:46:57.400 We've got the proline amino acids to make it sticky, make it hang around. 1478 01:46:57.400 --> 01:47:00.880 And we've got the lipid nanoparticles, which are going to take it into the ovary, take 1479 01:47:00.880 --> 01:47:03.920 it throughout the body, take it into the brain. 1480 01:47:03.920 --> 01:47:05.920 And then in addition to that, it's got an adjuvant. 1481 01:47:05.920 --> 01:47:10.440 I spoke earlier about the adjuvants there to irritate the immune system. 1482 01:47:10.440 --> 01:47:11.440 It's got an adjuvant. 1483 01:47:11.440 --> 01:47:13.360 It's not aluminium this time. 1484 01:47:13.360 --> 01:47:21.000 It's a plant-based soap-like thing called saponin, a type of saponin, which is again 1485 01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:23.160 going to help break your cell membranes. 1486 01:47:23.160 --> 01:47:27.080 So it's not as clean as we might like. 1487 01:47:27.080 --> 01:47:31.400 So yeah, Australia, the three types, we've got the AstraZeneca and again, this picture 1488 01:47:31.400 --> 01:47:44.360 you'll get the biotech and then now coming the Novavax. 1489 01:47:44.360 --> 01:47:51.040 Now there is one other, we would like to think kid on the block maybe, if we can ever get 1490 01:47:51.040 --> 01:47:52.360 off the ground. 1491 01:47:52.360 --> 01:47:58.080 So this was developed by Professor Nikolai Petrovsky, you've probably all heard of it, 1492 01:47:58.080 --> 01:48:03.000 the University of Flinders, South Australia, a company called Vaccine. 1493 01:48:03.000 --> 01:48:07.320 And that's been trialled overseas very effectively, Iran, we're into the millions. 1494 01:48:07.320 --> 01:48:14.040 So it's been through the trials, phase three trials and a higher efficacy than the World 1495 01:48:14.040 --> 01:48:20.560 Health Organisation set the bar for, less inflammatory, better safety profile. 1496 01:48:20.560 --> 01:48:24.720 They don't expect heart inflammation, but the problem is going to be getting it through 1497 01:48:24.720 --> 01:48:26.620 the TGA here in Australia. 1498 01:48:26.620 --> 01:48:30.660 So it's on a GoFundMe campaign for it. 1499 01:48:30.660 --> 01:48:35.260 So this is back with old technology. 1500 01:48:35.260 --> 01:48:38.420 So this is a recombinant protein base. 1501 01:48:38.420 --> 01:48:45.420 So it's a protein subunit, it's recombinant, but it is totally computer synthesised where 1502 01:48:45.420 --> 01:48:50.220 they took computer models of the spike protein and in the ACE receptor and found out what 1503 01:48:50.220 --> 01:48:55.420 combination was going to link to that. 1504 01:48:55.420 --> 01:49:00.460 So it does, it has been shown to reduce the disease, it does block shedding, and it does 1505 01:49:00.460 --> 01:49:03.140 block transmission. 1506 01:49:03.140 --> 01:49:07.220 It does still have an adjuvant, but what's interesting is the adjuvant they've used is 1507 01:49:07.220 --> 01:49:13.580 actually an anti-inflammatory adjuvant, rather than a pro-inflammatory, and it's trademarked 1508 01:49:13.580 --> 01:49:19.940 called Advax, and it comes from inulin, and inulin we know in the gut, it's a different, 1509 01:49:19.940 --> 01:49:23.820 that's what we're used to seeing, inulin. 1510 01:49:23.820 --> 01:49:29.660 So it makes the antibodies, it activates the T-cells and helps to stop the attachment 1511 01:49:29.660 --> 01:49:30.940 to the ACE receptor. 1512 01:49:30.940 --> 01:49:34.780 So this is blocking the viral attachment into the ACE receptor. 1513 01:49:34.780 --> 01:49:39.860 Sorry, could you please say the name of that one again, I missed it. 1514 01:49:39.860 --> 01:49:43.180 COVAX-19. 1515 01:49:43.180 --> 01:49:47.620 It's not here yet, we're trying to, there's a GoFundMe campaign, he's having to raise 1516 01:49:47.620 --> 01:49:51.220 money to get it through TGA. 1517 01:49:51.220 --> 01:49:55.300 To be honest, I don't like the chances, because it doesn't fit everybody's agendas. 1518 01:49:55.300 --> 01:49:56.300 It's too clean. 1519 01:49:56.300 --> 01:49:57.300 Okay. 1520 01:49:57.300 --> 01:49:59.300 It is traditional. 1521 01:50:00.000 --> 01:50:05.000 clean, cleaner, old vaccine, old style vaccine. 1522 01:50:06.200 --> 01:50:10.280 Well, modern technology applying to an old style concept 1523 01:50:10.280 --> 01:50:12.360 of subunit, protein subunit. 1524 01:50:15.040 --> 01:50:17.260 I don't think it's gonna get through. 1525 01:50:17.260 --> 01:50:20.160 So there's a slide you'll get to see on the COVAX action. 1526 01:50:22.240 --> 01:50:26.160 COVAX-19, not to be confirmed, confused with the name. 1527 01:50:26.160 --> 01:50:28.280 And this is what's confusing about all these names. 1528 01:50:28.280 --> 01:50:30.840 There is another organisation called COVAX 1529 01:50:30.840 --> 01:50:33.340 as compared to the COVAX-19 vaccine, 1530 01:50:34.480 --> 01:50:37.520 which is Vaccines Global Access. 1531 01:50:37.520 --> 01:50:39.680 So this is, again, a group of these guys. 1532 01:50:39.680 --> 01:50:41.680 This is Gavi linking up with CEPI, 1533 01:50:41.680 --> 01:50:44.840 linking up with WHO, linking up with UNICEF, 1534 01:50:44.840 --> 01:50:46.880 founded in April, 2020, 1535 01:50:46.880 --> 01:50:51.640 to get their chosen vaccines out into the world. 1536 01:50:52.640 --> 01:50:54.840 So it's their chosen vaccines. 1537 01:50:54.840 --> 01:50:58.600 And intriguingly, who are our Pfizer shareholders? 1538 01:50:58.600 --> 01:51:01.340 You've probably all heard of BlackRock and Vanguard. 1539 01:51:02.400 --> 01:51:03.840 So they're popping up there again. 1540 01:51:03.840 --> 01:51:06.200 That's a whole separate story. 1541 01:51:06.200 --> 01:51:08.280 So what am I saying with all of that? 1542 01:51:10.160 --> 01:51:12.140 There's a beautiful slide that you will get. 1543 01:51:12.140 --> 01:51:15.400 So I will send you all the picky slides 1544 01:51:15.400 --> 01:51:16.740 and you can pore over those. 1545 01:51:16.740 --> 01:51:18.240 I would have really liked to have took... 1546 01:51:18.240 --> 01:51:20.000 Well, are you all surviving? 1547 01:51:20.000 --> 01:51:21.960 Can you stand another five or 10 minutes 1548 01:51:21.960 --> 01:51:23.980 while I see if I can actually make the computers work 1549 01:51:23.980 --> 01:51:26.300 to get those colored things happening? 1550 01:51:27.540 --> 01:51:28.380 Because it should. 1551 01:51:28.380 --> 01:51:31.540 It was supposed to have emailed it to me 1552 01:51:31.540 --> 01:51:32.380 so I could open it up. 1553 01:51:32.380 --> 01:51:33.500 So I'll try that again. 1554 01:51:35.180 --> 01:51:36.980 Try and see why it wouldn't do it. 1555 01:51:46.700 --> 01:51:47.660 And then we'll run through, 1556 01:51:47.660 --> 01:51:49.940 because it really does make a lot more sense 1557 01:51:49.940 --> 01:51:53.980 when you see you actually can understand 1558 01:51:53.980 --> 01:51:56.080 what the B-cells and everything are doing. 1559 01:52:50.940 --> 01:52:52.180 Hasn't attached. 1560 01:53:02.700 --> 01:53:05.380 All right, let's try that again. 1561 01:53:19.940 --> 01:53:24.940 All right, just flipping it here 1562 01:53:26.020 --> 01:53:28.260 and see if it's done its thing. 1563 01:53:38.220 --> 01:53:40.140 I don't know why it hasn't done its thing. 1564 01:53:40.140 --> 01:53:44.380 All right, I don't want to have us all attached here too long. 1565 01:53:44.380 --> 01:53:47.880 I don't understand why that is not working. 1566 01:53:50.940 --> 01:53:54.660 Is your internet connected on the other laptop? 1567 01:53:54.660 --> 01:53:56.900 I've got two separate connection systems. 1568 01:53:56.900 --> 01:53:59.620 One's going off phone hotspot 1569 01:53:59.620 --> 01:54:04.100 and the other is going off satellite. 1570 01:54:05.220 --> 01:54:08.100 Hotspot might be a bit slow as well. 1571 01:54:08.100 --> 01:54:10.120 You know, like sometimes attachments, 1572 01:54:10.120 --> 01:54:12.060 it doesn't work very well with hotspot. 1573 01:54:14.580 --> 01:54:16.620 The hotspot is what's running your one 1574 01:54:16.620 --> 01:54:17.700 that I'm talking to you on. 1575 01:54:17.700 --> 01:54:20.960 The other one is being run on satellite. 1576 01:54:24.140 --> 01:54:25.300 Just keep refreshing. 1577 01:54:29.140 --> 01:54:31.220 Technology is fantastic. 1578 01:54:32.820 --> 01:54:34.740 Let's start that all over again. 1579 01:54:38.900 --> 01:54:39.980 Just while you're waiting, 1580 01:54:39.980 --> 01:54:43.400 can you answer the Novavax question, the person asked? 1581 01:54:44.340 --> 01:54:46.540 Yeah, yeah, so right, that was Robin, wasn't it? 1582 01:54:46.980 --> 01:54:48.340 So what was it? 1583 01:54:48.340 --> 01:54:49.940 Hopefully I can concentrate on this 1584 01:54:49.940 --> 01:54:51.020 and answer at the same time. 1585 01:54:51.020 --> 01:54:52.180 So far away, ask me. 1586 01:54:52.180 --> 01:54:53.780 No, you're right. 1587 01:54:53.780 --> 01:54:55.200 I apologise for that. 1588 01:54:56.380 --> 01:54:59.620 Just that George Christensen has been as an MP. 1589 01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:04.320 has been you know really fighting against all of the stuff that's going on as we're talking about 1590 01:55:04.960 --> 01:55:10.160 and he said that you know he announced on his Facebook page that Novavax was available and 1591 01:55:10.160 --> 01:55:15.680 he said that he'd asked Dr Peter McAuliffe about it personally and Dr McAuliffe said yeah no 1592 01:55:15.680 --> 01:55:20.320 problems. So that's not that's not what he said and that's not what he said on the thing that we 1593 01:55:20.320 --> 01:55:27.360 we're just in here now. Yeah I know that's why I was just. He is coming from a different angle as 1594 01:55:27.360 --> 01:55:33.840 well. He isn't focused on the the lipid nanoparticles. He isn't focused and hasn't 1595 01:55:33.840 --> 01:55:39.840 mentioned at all the proline residues being changed but what he does has said is that 1596 01:55:39.840 --> 01:55:45.840 because it is a more narrow protein subunit he thinks that efficacy is going to wane quickly. 1597 01:55:46.480 --> 01:55:46.960 Oh okay. 1598 01:55:55.520 --> 01:56:04.720 And the other name of that Covax-19 is it spikogen spikogen is that yes that's the one 1599 01:56:04.720 --> 01:56:11.120 that's the one I do not know what what that is doing or why it is not doing anything 1600 01:56:11.920 --> 01:56:13.200 does not make sense. 1601 01:56:15.680 --> 01:56:20.960 I just don't seem to be able to get unless I try look let me try oh no that's right it didn't. 1602 01:56:25.040 --> 01:56:28.720 Why don't you just send them to Elyse and Elyse can send them all to us. 1603 01:56:29.840 --> 01:56:34.480 We'll let you any other questions I'll let I'll send those I'll spend a bit of time and send those 1604 01:56:34.480 --> 01:56:38.320 pretty pickies off to we'll make a separate PowerPoint and send you all those pretty 1605 01:56:38.320 --> 01:56:45.120 pickies and you can pour over them in your leisure and then maybe we can if we need if 1606 01:56:45.120 --> 01:56:49.680 you want to talk through them next time we'll have systems working. Now what I'd like to do 1607 01:56:49.680 --> 01:56:57.200 for next week is really start to talk into the mechanism of action of side effects because 1608 01:56:57.200 --> 01:57:01.920 really my heart is what I'd like if all of you wouldn't mind doing this if you know if you feel 1609 01:57:01.920 --> 01:57:10.480 on your heart to do this what I'd like to see happen is a whole heap of people who have already 1610 01:57:10.480 --> 01:57:20.160 taken the vaccine and not sure about it or you know they've got side effects there or they're 1611 01:57:20.160 --> 01:57:27.120 having to think about do we go and do the third if everyone can have one or maybe two people come 1612 01:57:27.120 --> 01:57:31.440 and sitting in with you so that I can then talk through the vaccine side effects and then talk 1613 01:57:31.440 --> 01:57:36.320 about hey what can we do you know I think we're really going to be able to get some of this 1614 01:57:36.320 --> 01:57:43.680 message out does that sound cool everyone be in on that yep so that'll be my focus next time yes 1615 01:57:43.680 --> 01:57:48.400 we'll you know we'll do more teaching where I really talk in detail over what the mechanisms 1616 01:57:48.400 --> 01:57:55.120 are of why or what we think the mechanisms are of why is causing side effects and what are the main 1617 01:57:55.120 --> 01:57:59.600 there are made several main categories of side effects that we're seeing and most of the side 1618 01:57:59.600 --> 01:58:06.000 effects can be put into into these categories but why why that is what what can we do about 1619 01:58:06.960 --> 01:58:13.920 about it what time would you think that would be when we're inviting people well I would 1620 01:58:18.880 --> 01:58:24.560 well maybe I could do the first part maybe I could do the first part on on teaching and plan 1621 01:58:24.640 --> 01:58:29.520 an hour on teaching in detail around all the side effects but then bring your friends in 1622 01:58:30.080 --> 01:58:35.440 and say look you know and then they can start you know with a few questions and then I can 1623 01:58:35.440 --> 01:58:42.160 talk into suggestions okay these are the things we do in essence your management because everything 1624 01:58:42.160 --> 01:58:47.520 is largely or pretty much everything is being caused by the spike protein and notice I haven't 1625 01:58:47.520 --> 01:58:52.240 gone anywhere near talking about graphene oxide at this point we're still not able to confirm that 1626 01:58:52.240 --> 01:58:59.600 deal we can confirm that there was a patent put out for graphene oxide to be used as a vaccine 1627 01:58:59.600 --> 01:59:05.360 adjuvant we can confirm that patent and there have been universities as you those who are watching 1628 01:59:05.360 --> 01:59:10.480 you know around the world particularly in Italy that have said they think they can see it and 1629 01:59:10.480 --> 01:59:19.520 then we did lose the Austrian Nobel Prize laureate who did come on and speak about it and was murdered 1630 01:59:19.520 --> 01:59:24.000 a couple of hours after so that all of those things make it very suspicious that graphene 1631 01:59:24.000 --> 01:59:29.440 oxide is in the vaccines but it's not you know we can't verify it like the other things we can 1632 01:59:30.320 --> 01:59:38.000 absolutely verify so so maybe the first part I'll talk about you know the details of the 1633 01:59:38.000 --> 01:59:43.600 mechanisms of why things are happening and then let's let's plan so the second half let's say an 1634 01:59:43.680 --> 01:59:50.320 hour in then we'll open up and get people in and then they can ask questions and then we can say 1635 01:59:50.320 --> 01:59:56.000 okay we can do this to help we can do that to help but the essence of managing the side effects 1636 01:59:56.560 --> 01:59:59.680 is around it's similar to your treating the 1637 02:00:00.000 --> 02:00:07.040 protein per se. So you're thinking for them to sit in for the first hour so they hear about all the 1638 02:00:07.040 --> 02:00:12.000 side effects first before they're ready for questions or come in after? You're probably 1639 02:00:12.000 --> 02:00:17.360 going to have to play that by ear with your people. Yeah okay. Someone who's got themselves 1640 02:00:17.360 --> 02:00:22.160 desperately distressed and you know it'll flip them out completely to hear about you know what 1641 02:00:22.160 --> 02:00:26.960 all the side effects are will then know they're a person to bring in to say well what about this and 1642 02:00:26.960 --> 02:00:32.240 what about that. But if it's someone who's at that stage where they're really now ready to learn 1643 02:00:34.080 --> 02:00:38.880 and understand what has happened then yes let them come in for the whole lot. 1644 02:00:41.360 --> 02:00:41.680 Okay. 1645 02:00:41.680 --> 02:00:54.400 Dr. Robin the people that we invite will they be able to join 1646 02:00:55.360 --> 02:00:58.320 where they are on Zoom or do they have to be here? 1647 02:01:00.560 --> 02:01:05.120 Yeah that's the problem it's a closed link because it's the one link that Raising Royalty 1648 02:01:05.120 --> 02:01:12.880 use for the entire course we wouldn't be able to do that. So I think and I think too it'll be 1649 02:01:12.880 --> 02:01:20.320 better if possible to have them in with you again so that they're right with them and you can then 1650 02:01:20.320 --> 02:01:25.840 better read if they're having a problem with what we're saying if you know I think have 1651 02:01:25.840 --> 02:01:31.600 them with you would be best. Yeah because she had to go to another Zoom. 1652 02:01:36.800 --> 02:01:39.440 So yeah okay. 1653 02:01:42.000 --> 02:01:47.200 Yes and certainly yeah Catherine we can't get the the sign of Axe in Australia but I think a lot of 1654 02:01:47.200 --> 02:01:52.960 we do need to be mindful of who is in charge of what countries. You have a look at who Greg Hunt 1655 02:01:52.960 --> 02:01:59.680 was part of Davos right so you know if there's a few minor important things like this you know 1656 02:01:59.680 --> 02:02:05.440 Justine Turard was World Economic Forum Youth Leaders year whatever it was I forget which year 1657 02:02:05.440 --> 02:02:11.040 but alongside Trudeau so the same year so you know we need to be mindful of those things you 1658 02:02:11.040 --> 02:02:15.200 look at the which of the countries who are doing what and you will you will see that it all tends 1659 02:02:15.280 --> 02:02:27.040 to gel. So I have someone who is she ended up in hospital and has been told that she's going to 1660 02:02:27.040 --> 02:02:38.080 need ongoing monitoring for liver failure and immune issues who would be really good to sit 1661 02:02:38.080 --> 02:02:42.080 in on this but I can't have her here with me because she lives two hours away so how would 1662 02:02:42.080 --> 02:02:49.040 I be able to invite her next week? I don't know you might have to put a question to to 1663 02:02:49.040 --> 02:02:56.000 Elisa raising what we can do okay but that's the sort of person because for both I would like her 1664 02:02:56.000 --> 02:03:03.040 I also want to give these people an opportunity to tell their story yeah because there's healing 1665 02:03:03.040 --> 02:03:07.200 for them in that even just being because for most of these people for many of these people 1666 02:03:07.760 --> 02:03:12.720 the world around does not believe or doesn't want to know or whatever right so so for a lot 1667 02:03:12.720 --> 02:03:21.600 of these people it's yeah there's a validation and healing for them and her daughter has some 1668 02:03:22.400 --> 02:03:28.800 loop person that had majorly fled up from her getting the jab as well yeah so she 1669 02:03:29.440 --> 02:03:38.560 needs help with that too yeah yeah so so certainly you know I think if we get a couple of people you 1670 02:03:38.560 --> 02:03:43.920 know people like that in and have them tell their story look at my it might even happen that 1671 02:03:48.160 --> 02:03:54.320 I want to hear anything yeah I want to give those people enough time 1672 02:03:54.560 --> 02:04:02.240 what we might do what we might do is actually see start off with people telling their stories 1673 02:04:02.240 --> 02:04:06.640 let's do it that way let's start off with people telling their stories 1674 02:04:08.640 --> 02:04:14.400 and then I can you know go into the suggestions for them of for them what they can do and then 1675 02:04:14.400 --> 02:04:19.680 depending on how we're going time-wise we can either then continue and I'll go into the details 1676 02:04:19.760 --> 02:04:23.920 and I'll go into the details of what the system the things are to watch for and you know and 1677 02:04:24.480 --> 02:04:32.640 and how it works or we can shift that to the following week but let's give I think let's 1678 02:04:32.640 --> 02:04:39.840 open this up to give give people around the opportunity to come in and and tell their story 1679 02:04:40.960 --> 02:04:46.400 and then hear some things of what what can be done and for others to hear you know what can be done 1680 02:04:47.280 --> 02:04:55.280 okay oh yeah I'll contact Elyse and see how we can get them on the zoom yeah yeah yeah so contact 1681 02:04:55.280 --> 02:04:59.280 Elyse and see what she thinks of how how we can do that yeah 1682 02:05:00.000 --> 02:05:00.840 Yeah. 1683 02:05:00.840 --> 02:05:01.680 Oh, excellent. 1684 02:05:03.520 --> 02:05:04.360 Yeah. 1685 02:05:05.280 --> 02:05:09.600 And yeah, we do have to get people, 1686 02:05:09.600 --> 02:05:11.880 yes, 30 leaders in the place worldwide. 1687 02:05:11.880 --> 02:05:14.200 Yes, and he was very proud 1688 02:05:14.200 --> 02:05:16.040 about how we'd got all these undercover people 1689 02:05:16.040 --> 02:05:16.960 in all these places. 1690 02:05:16.960 --> 02:05:19.360 It's just so evil. 1691 02:05:21.080 --> 02:05:22.520 Yeah. 1692 02:05:22.520 --> 02:05:24.760 So they'll suggest how... 1693 02:05:26.840 --> 02:05:28.360 So in terms of this question back up here, 1694 02:05:28.360 --> 02:05:30.760 am I saying the jab could be out of the system in 12 months? 1695 02:05:30.760 --> 02:05:32.040 We don't know. 1696 02:05:32.040 --> 02:05:34.640 We do not know how long the system, 1697 02:05:34.640 --> 02:05:35.960 it is going to stay in for. 1698 02:05:35.960 --> 02:05:36.800 That is the problem. 1699 02:05:36.800 --> 02:05:38.760 We do not know. 1700 02:05:38.760 --> 02:05:41.400 Certainly we know that at least for four months afterwards, 1701 02:05:41.400 --> 02:05:43.480 the spike protein is being expressed 1702 02:05:43.480 --> 02:05:46.040 on the surface of the exosomes. 1703 02:05:46.040 --> 02:05:48.880 So exosomes are packages of genetic material 1704 02:05:48.880 --> 02:05:51.240 that our own body makes as a way of messaging 1705 02:05:51.240 --> 02:05:52.800 to other cells and to get rid of stuff. 1706 02:05:52.800 --> 02:05:54.800 You know, it's like, I want this out. 1707 02:05:54.800 --> 02:05:57.560 So we know that spike protein is on the surface of these 1708 02:05:58.160 --> 02:06:00.280 for at least four months afterwards and, you know, 1709 02:06:00.280 --> 02:06:01.120 being excreted. 1710 02:06:03.000 --> 02:06:05.200 We don't know how long after that, 1711 02:06:05.200 --> 02:06:07.760 but one of the researchers thinks that the spike protein 1712 02:06:07.760 --> 02:06:12.760 could still be being made for 12 months after each vaccine. 1713 02:06:12.960 --> 02:06:13.880 So, but we don't know. 1714 02:06:13.880 --> 02:06:15.640 We haven't had 12 months to be measuring. 1715 02:06:15.640 --> 02:06:17.240 You know, we don't know. 1716 02:06:18.800 --> 02:06:20.160 So, yeah. 1717 02:06:20.160 --> 02:06:21.080 Yeah. 1718 02:06:21.080 --> 02:06:22.680 Okay. 1719 02:06:22.680 --> 02:06:23.960 All right, everyone. 1720 02:06:23.960 --> 02:06:28.960 So, that will do. 1721 02:06:32.200 --> 02:06:33.800 Yes, our manufacturing. 1722 02:06:33.800 --> 02:06:34.720 Yes, it's great, isn't it? 1723 02:06:34.720 --> 02:06:36.680 We're going to start making it on hand here. 1724 02:06:36.680 --> 02:06:37.560 It's even better. 1725 02:06:39.920 --> 02:06:42.640 And yet, you know, we, so anyway, 1726 02:06:42.640 --> 02:06:45.000 we've done massive politics of money. 1727 02:06:45.000 --> 02:06:46.920 The bottom line is, as I went, 1728 02:06:50.240 --> 02:06:52.640 on the money behind the pharmaceutical industry, 1729 02:06:53.480 --> 02:06:55.240 you know, you get to see the story. 1730 02:06:55.240 --> 02:06:58.360 And interestingly, BlackRock, who, you know, 1731 02:06:58.360 --> 02:07:00.880 are behind Pfizer. 1732 02:07:00.880 --> 02:07:03.880 BlackRock, as an investment company, 1733 02:07:03.880 --> 02:07:07.720 handle $4 trillion worth of funds, 1734 02:07:07.720 --> 02:07:11.240 and they are bigger in the assets that they handle 1735 02:07:11.240 --> 02:07:13.040 than the world's largest banks. 1736 02:07:14.360 --> 02:07:18.200 So it's been regarded as the most powerful financial entity 1737 02:07:18.200 --> 02:07:19.600 on the planet. 1738 02:07:20.600 --> 02:07:22.480 So you start looking at all of those things, 1739 02:07:22.480 --> 02:07:25.280 and then all these other things make a bit of sense, 1740 02:07:25.280 --> 02:07:26.600 don't they? 1741 02:07:26.600 --> 02:07:27.920 Okay. 1742 02:07:27.920 --> 02:07:28.760 All right. 1743 02:07:31.360 --> 02:07:32.200 Thank you all. 1744 02:07:32.200 --> 02:07:34.600 Sorry, we ran over a bit. 1745 02:07:34.600 --> 02:07:37.520 What we will do in future is try and decide, 1746 02:07:37.520 --> 02:07:39.320 really felt this after last week. 1747 02:07:39.320 --> 02:07:41.120 Three hours is too long for everyone. 1748 02:07:41.120 --> 02:07:43.960 So we'll pair it in generally to about a two hour, 1749 02:07:43.960 --> 02:07:47.240 unless we find we really are just using the time. 1750 02:07:47.240 --> 02:07:48.080 That's okay. 1751 02:07:48.080 --> 02:07:49.080 But we'll plan for two hours. 1752 02:07:49.520 --> 02:07:51.360 That's more livable for everybody. 1753 02:07:51.360 --> 02:07:55.680 We can make the things more worthwhile, I think. 1754 02:07:55.680 --> 02:07:58.080 So that was something I discussed with, you know, 1755 02:07:58.080 --> 02:08:00.000 raising royalty during the week. 1756 02:08:00.000 --> 02:08:02.120 We decided that's our better way to do it. 1757 02:08:03.080 --> 02:08:04.320 Okay? 1758 02:08:04.320 --> 02:08:05.160 Yeah. 1759 02:08:05.160 --> 02:08:06.000 So see you all next week. 1760 02:08:06.000 --> 02:08:07.520 We will keep... 1761 02:08:07.520 --> 02:08:08.360 Yeah. 1762 02:08:08.360 --> 02:08:10.640 Could I just quickly ask you a question? 1763 02:08:10.640 --> 02:08:12.600 Can I email you with a question 1764 02:08:12.600 --> 02:08:15.400 rather than take up the time of everybody here or not? 1765 02:08:16.360 --> 02:08:17.640 The questions are within... 1766 02:08:17.640 --> 02:08:19.840 Unless people want to actually move outside 1767 02:08:19.840 --> 02:08:22.560 and I turn it into consult time, 1768 02:08:22.560 --> 02:08:25.960 questions are part of what we do in here. 1769 02:08:25.960 --> 02:08:28.720 That's the whole reason we have this set up. 1770 02:08:28.720 --> 02:08:29.560 Okay. 1771 02:08:29.560 --> 02:08:30.840 And that way also... 1772 02:08:30.840 --> 02:08:31.720 Yeah, I have... 1773 02:08:31.720 --> 02:08:32.560 Well, fine. 1774 02:08:34.200 --> 02:08:36.400 An integrated doctor that I went to said 1775 02:08:36.400 --> 02:08:39.080 I had mercury in my system and I needed to detox. 1776 02:08:39.080 --> 02:08:42.640 And I was just wondering about that type of detox 1777 02:08:42.640 --> 02:08:43.800 and what would be good. 1778 02:08:44.720 --> 02:08:45.760 Yeah, sure. 1779 02:08:46.080 --> 02:08:49.160 We will get into whole stories of heavy metal detox 1780 02:08:49.160 --> 02:08:51.360 and all of that down the track. 1781 02:08:51.360 --> 02:08:53.240 Your first way is to see... 1782 02:08:53.240 --> 02:08:54.760 There are New Zealand practices 1783 02:08:54.760 --> 02:08:57.480 who do a thing called an oligoscan. 1784 02:08:57.480 --> 02:08:59.960 They are available in New Zealand. 1785 02:08:59.960 --> 02:09:01.120 So look that up. 1786 02:09:02.400 --> 02:09:03.520 I'm in Australia. 1787 02:09:03.520 --> 02:09:04.880 Yeah, oligoscan. 1788 02:09:04.880 --> 02:09:06.640 And that gives you an actual measure 1789 02:09:06.640 --> 02:09:09.200 in your peripheral tissues of what your nutrients are. 1790 02:09:09.200 --> 02:09:11.000 And that'll show what's sitting peripherally. 1791 02:09:11.000 --> 02:09:12.560 It doesn't show you what's deep. 1792 02:09:12.560 --> 02:09:14.240 Then you need a good practitioner 1793 02:09:14.240 --> 02:09:15.960 who can actually help you on that process 1794 02:09:15.960 --> 02:09:17.400 of working it through. 1795 02:09:17.400 --> 02:09:18.960 But my take is basically 1796 02:09:18.960 --> 02:09:22.280 that the more you nourish the body with good minerals, 1797 02:09:22.280 --> 02:09:24.760 like you put in the good, the body will get out the bad, 1798 02:09:24.760 --> 02:09:26.000 putting it really simply. 1799 02:09:26.920 --> 02:09:30.000 But yeah, there certainly are... 1800 02:09:30.000 --> 02:09:32.240 There's a lot more intensive protocols you can do. 1801 02:09:32.240 --> 02:09:33.840 At home stuff, you can do things 1802 02:09:33.840 --> 02:09:35.360 like the electrolyte foot bars, 1803 02:09:35.360 --> 02:09:37.200 putting your feet in those foot bars, 1804 02:09:37.200 --> 02:09:38.360 mineralized foot bars. 1805 02:09:38.360 --> 02:09:40.040 That'll help draw it out your feet. 1806 02:09:40.040 --> 02:09:41.800 You can use foot patches. 1807 02:09:41.800 --> 02:09:43.000 But cleaning the diet out. 1808 02:09:43.000 --> 02:09:44.840 It's all an energy equation. 1809 02:09:44.840 --> 02:09:47.360 It's all about how much energy does the body have available? 1810 02:09:47.360 --> 02:09:49.680 How much nutrition does it have available? 1811 02:09:49.680 --> 02:09:51.320 You clean your body out of chemicals. 1812 02:09:51.320 --> 02:09:53.240 Don't have other exposure to chemicals. 1813 02:09:53.240 --> 02:09:54.520 Have the body energy is good. 1814 02:09:54.520 --> 02:09:56.800 Don't have wifi, all of this stuff. 1815 02:09:56.800 --> 02:09:59.160 So the body energies are good. 1816 02:09:59.160 --> 02:10:00.200 Then super nutrition. 1817 02:10:00.000 --> 02:10:03.580 and the body can clean out what shouldn't be there. 1818 02:10:03.580 --> 02:10:04.420 Okay. 1819 02:10:04.420 --> 02:10:07.600 There's a thing called T-S-R spray. 1820 02:10:07.600 --> 02:10:11.160 T-S-R-S, T-R-S. 1821 02:10:11.160 --> 02:10:12.880 Yeah, T-R-S spray. 1822 02:10:12.880 --> 02:10:14.920 Is that something? 1823 02:10:14.920 --> 02:10:16.200 You can use that. 1824 02:10:16.200 --> 02:10:17.040 Yeah. 1825 02:10:17.040 --> 02:10:17.860 Whatever you're going to do, 1826 02:10:17.860 --> 02:10:20.000 I suggest you find a way of monitoring. 1827 02:10:20.000 --> 02:10:21.840 So that's why I suggest an oligoscan. 1828 02:10:22.840 --> 02:10:24.420 You want to monitor it? 1829 02:10:24.420 --> 02:10:26.880 The oligoscan, I'll type it in. 1830 02:10:26.920 --> 02:10:31.480 That's what I get all my patients to do, is oligoscans. 1831 02:10:32.520 --> 02:10:34.360 And that way you've got a way of monitoring 1832 02:10:34.360 --> 02:10:36.840 what your tissues are actually doing with your minerals 1833 02:10:36.840 --> 02:10:38.940 and your vitamins and your minerals, okay? 1834 02:10:38.940 --> 02:10:39.780 Okay. 1835 02:10:39.780 --> 02:10:44.680 You don't want to waste money on stuff 1836 02:10:44.680 --> 02:10:45.760 if it's not doing anything. 1837 02:10:45.760 --> 02:10:47.980 So you do want some way of monitoring. 1838 02:10:47.980 --> 02:10:48.820 Okay. 1839 02:10:48.820 --> 02:10:49.640 Thank you. 1840 02:10:49.640 --> 02:10:50.480 Thank you very much. 1841 02:10:50.480 --> 02:10:51.320 Appreciate it. 1842 02:10:51.320 --> 02:10:52.360 Okay. 1843 02:10:52.360 --> 02:10:53.200 Bless you. 1844 02:10:54.960 --> 02:10:55.800 Okay. 1845 02:10:55.800 --> 02:10:56.640 Wonderful. 1846 02:10:57.380 --> 02:11:00.200 So we'll meet you all next week at two. 1847 02:11:00.200 --> 02:11:02.160 And we'll bring along someone 1848 02:11:02.160 --> 02:11:04.560 and we'll start off with stories and people 1849 02:11:04.560 --> 02:11:05.400 and let them know, look, 1850 02:11:05.400 --> 02:11:07.040 this is where we want to hear the stories. 1851 02:11:07.040 --> 02:11:10.560 We want to validate your stories, hear your stories. 1852 02:11:10.560 --> 02:11:12.760 And then we can start to make some suggestions 1853 02:11:12.760 --> 02:11:14.840 around what can we do to help them? 1854 02:11:16.280 --> 02:11:19.280 Because there's going to be a lot of this. 1855 02:11:23.200 --> 02:11:24.040 Okay? 1856 02:11:24.040 --> 02:11:24.860 All right. 1857 02:11:24.860 --> 02:11:25.700 Thank you. 1858 02:11:25.740 --> 02:11:28.020 Thank you so much, Dr. Robin. 1859 02:11:28.020 --> 02:11:29.340 Bless you. 1860 02:11:29.340 --> 02:11:30.580 Bless you all. 1861 02:11:30.580 --> 02:11:32.620 So yeah, we lost a lot of people in the way. 1862 02:11:32.620 --> 02:11:34.020 It does get too long. 1863 02:11:34.020 --> 02:11:35.820 So anyway, next time we'll be, 1864 02:11:35.820 --> 02:11:36.660 we'll keep it in tight 1865 02:11:36.660 --> 02:11:38.340 and I think that'll make it better for everyone. 1866 02:11:38.340 --> 02:11:39.180 Okay? 1867 02:11:39.180 --> 02:11:40.020 Thank you. 1868 02:11:40.020 --> 02:11:41.020 Thank you. 1869 02:11:41.020 --> 02:11:41.860 Bye. 1870 02:11:41.860 --> 02:11:42.700 Bye. 1871 02:11:44.860 --> 02:11:45.700 Bye, Robin. 1872 02:11:45.700 --> 02:11:46.540 Thank you. 1873 02:11:47.460 --> 02:11:48.300 Bless you all. 1874 02:11:55.700 --> 02:11:56.700 Thank you. 1875 02:12:25.700 --> 02:12:26.700 Thank you. 1876 02:12:55.700 --> 02:12:56.700 Thank you. 1877 02:13:25.700 --> 02:13:26.700 Thank you. 1878 02:13:55.700 --> 02:13:56.700 Thank you. 1879 02:14:25.700 --> 02:14:26.700 Thank you. 1880 02:14:55.700 --> 02:14:56.700 Thank you. 1881 02:15:00.000 --> 02:15:02.060 you 1882 02:15:30.000 --> 02:15:32.060 you 1883 02:16:00.000 --> 02:16:02.060 you 1884 02:16:30.000 --> 02:16:32.059 you 1885 02:17:00.000 --> 02:17:02.059 you 1886 02:17:30.000 --> 02:17:32.059 you 1887 02:18:00.000 --> 02:18:02.059 you 1888 02:18:30.000 --> 02:18:32.059 you 1889 02:19:00.000 --> 02:19:02.059 you 1890 02:19:30.000 --> 02:19:32.059 you 1891 02:20:00.000 --> 02:20:02.060 you 1892 02:20:30.000 --> 02:20:32.060 you 1893 02:21:00.000 --> 02:21:02.060 you 1894 02:21:30.000 --> 02:21:32.060 you 1895 02:22:00.000 --> 02:22:02.060 you 1896 02:22:30.000 --> 02:22:32.060 you 1897 02:23:00.000 --> 02:23:02.060 you 1898 02:23:30.000 --> 02:23:32.060 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