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live here with Ben and Sebastian, which is exciting.

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So welcome, gentlemen.

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How are we doing this morning?

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Thank you, Benji.

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Doing good.

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Cool.

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Now, it is an absolute treat to be here,

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to have Ben with us right now.

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And Ben, you are not in your normal house.

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Where are you right now?

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What's going on?

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We're just at Novotel in Wellington.

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My wife and I came down here two nights ago

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just to be a part of the protest here at Wellington.

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Yeah, it's my second time down here

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in the last sort of, I don't know, several days.

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And yeah, it's pretty amazing.

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Yeah.

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What's the vibe there?

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What's going on?

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What's New Zealand feeling like?

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And what's, yeah, you're right in the heart of the action.

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It's pretty interesting right now.

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I would say the vibe is, you know,

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a whole lot of people who are here

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because they believe that the mandates are wrong

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and that they need to end

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and that this government's lost its mind a bit.

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And they want to be heard and they don't feel heard.

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And, you know, another part of it is,

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I think, you know, there's a lot of love,

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a lot of connection,

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a lot of just incredible generosity down here.

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Like people walking around with puppets of ice blocks

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or, you know, muesli bars and drinks

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and just keeping everybody fed, you know.

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We had like two meals yesterday, incredibly.

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Like curry and beautiful meals.

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And they just have tents full of free food

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that people can just go and hang out there, right?

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Yeah, they've actually been asking people to stop donating

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because they've had so much stuff

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they can't like really give it away

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or store it in the storehouse anymore.

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So yeah, they've been getting like truckloads of avocados

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from the Tauranga area and all sorts.

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So it's quite incredible.

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There's even like an op shop where everything's free

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and they've just set up.

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And yesterday Kezia came home with like a new swimsuit

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and some new dandels, all brand new stuff.

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And I know the kids are having a great time down there too.

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I think it's interesting, like what we learned yesterday

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was that the, what is it, the police commissioner,

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Jacinda's cousin was saying, you know, like this is,

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we have some tow trucks and we're gonna tow people.

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Now he's saying, you know, it's really up to the government

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to, you know, have conversation with these protesters.

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And it's not really a police matter.

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And so it's interesting seeing, you know,

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a bit of family feud between Jacinda and her cousin

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arise where, you know, the government's saying,

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hey, it's the police job to get rid of these protesters

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or, you know, tow vehicles

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and free up some of these streets around the Beehive.

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And then it's the police saying,

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oh, actually no, it's the politicians.

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And so, and then the, you know,

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they've gone to the army and the army have said,

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no, it's the politicians need to get down there

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and listen to the people.

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So it's like, you know, it's really funny.

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Like I saw on a Twitter feed, I think,

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you know, an international guy, I think his name's Benny.

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He was saying, you know, he had posted something to like,

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I know he's got like millions of followers,

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a discussion between two people

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on how embarrassing it is for our police commissioner

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to not even be able to tow a few cars, you know?

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And yeah, it's quite funny.

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So people are in high spirits here.

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Love towards the police officers who are here.

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It's amazing.

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You know, like yesterday we went down to the front lines

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and our kids just waved to some of the police officers

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and they, you know, gave some little head nods back.

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And yeah, we just really want.

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We want these police officers to know that we need them, we need police officers with

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morals to stay in the force, not to just jump out because they're being asked to do things

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that are, in many respects, immoral for politicians.

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But yeah, it's an amazing place, definitely.

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If you're able to come down, come down, yeah, need more reinforcements, but actually it's

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like there's thousands of people here, and since I was last here, there's no place to

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put a tent.

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In fact, there's some grassy spots just up the road that have all been filled with tents

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as well.

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So it's just like tent city, there's even tents on some of the concrete pads around

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the beehive as well.

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Yeah, I saw them.

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Was it the courthouse that people are putting their tents up in the courthouse, is that

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Oh, sorry, tent city, yeah.

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So I mean, this is what's happening in New Zealand, but it's happening all over the world.

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There's protests this week breaking out, and not just this week, but they're breaking out

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all over the world.

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And we're just seeing convoys, there was this week, I think a convoy of like 20,000 cars

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in Israel of protesters, and it's just like everywhere you look, people are breaking out

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and going, man, like, it's time for freedom.

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Yeah, totally bro, yeah, it's amazing.

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One of the funniest things I saw, right, because the police, this is just for anyone overseas

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who didn't see this, or maybe you're in New Zealand, you didn't see this, but the police

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asked the tow truck companies to tow all these cars, and the tow truck companies pretty much

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all said, no, we don't want to do that.

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There's been a couple that have since said, oh, maybe, but there was this one very funny

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video on Twitter of there was some cops that were out ticketing people whose cars were

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parked, and they'd been asking the tow truck drivers to tow these cars.

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And then they came running back because the tow truck driver was towing the cop car off.

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Yeah, I saw that last night.

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That was quite funny, because the cop car had actually parked illegally.

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Yeah, and because the cop car had parked illegally, the tow truck drivers took the cop car.

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That's very funny.

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So, Ben, we've got about another 20 minutes here with you, and we really want to get into

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some of these like bigger issues around banking and governments and crazy government overreach

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and things that are unfolding in the world right now.

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But if you'd like to pray for us, that'd be great.

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And then we're going to just jump straight into your mind and get some amazing perspectives

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on what you see happening in governments and banks and crypto with our next 20 minutes.

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Yeah, sure thing.

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Oh, Lord, we just thank you for that you're here and that you've been leading us and that

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you'll continue to lead us.

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And Lord, we just ask for a spirit of wisdom and revelation to just be on this conversation

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right now, that we may know your thoughts and know the future and be able to bring your

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wisdom to your people.

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Amen.

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Beautiful.

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We'll see if you've got some thoughts, so why don't you jump in there, man?

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Yeah, Ben, it's been cool to watch your journey over the last couple of years and what you're

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doing and what you're getting up to.

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Just to kick it off, man, what do you see as kind of the most, your biggest concern

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with what's going on with banks and government right now?

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Obviously, there's a lot to unpack there, but if you could refine it down to what you

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see as the biggest issues, what do you see from your perspective?

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Yeah, I think the biggest concern for me right now is that a trap is being set right now

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for people and they're unaware of it.

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And it's been interesting, the Canadian protest, because Trudeau has kind of shown his hand

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and in terms of like the trap, how it's being set.

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And I don't know if you guys are aware, but they started freezing bank accounts of

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dissenters.

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So if you see this, it's like, well, OK, so if you don't like the opinion of some

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of the people you're meant to be serving, you're going to lock down their ability

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to pay for food, to pay for rent, to look after their families.

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So, I mean, if that's not government overreach, I don't know what is.

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But what it shows is that.

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there is a system being created where people can be manipulated and controlled

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by their, you know, Maslow's hierarchy. There's the base needs, which is like food and shelter

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and these sort of things. And what the government's doing is that they are, you know,

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through, like, you know, calling people who protest terrorists, right? They're able to now use

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these legal mechanisms that have been put in place because of the terrorist acts that

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happened in previous years to shut down terrorist bank accounts and to shut down

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to now shut down people, you and I, who are expressing opinions like that lockdowns are harmful for

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society or that, you know, jabs are more risky for children than the virus itself, you know?

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These ideas are now becoming like terrorist ideas and we are on the edge of, you know, if they

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get away with this, we're on the edge of becoming a, you know, communist, the communist west.

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Yeah, so this is the tipping point, I believe, and I think that it's really interesting that

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I think it's great that these protests are happening right now. I think it's

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important that we get behind it because this is the moment where these things are being exposed.

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I believe God is hardening the heart of Jacinda and Nala and all of these people

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to force their hand so that these things can come into the light and that people could wake up.

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Yeah, so that's the, to answer your question, that's the biggest risk that we have right now

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is that if these, if not enough people get down to this protest, if, you know, Trudeau is successful

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in, you know, getting rid of all of these truckers, then things won't change, or if they say,

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you know, if they let the, if they roll back some of these mandates and lull people back into

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a false sense of security again, all the while instituting central bank digital currencies

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connected to, say, your vaccine pass and slowly phase out cash and, yeah, and just tighten the

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noose on society. Yeah, I think that's the biggest risk. Yeah, I feel you. I was wondering, just on

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the other side of that, what do you see as some of the potential solutions that we're looking at?

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You know, obviously, we are looking, you know, we're praying, we're protesting here in the U.S.

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too, we're building companies, we're stewarding assets to get as far as we can to support what

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we're doing, what's happening across the world, but then what do you see as some of the solutions

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we have even inside, you know, cryptocurrency, decentralization of finance, moving along

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like those lines, how do you, how do you see those, do you see those as solutions? How do we,

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how do we navigate that space in light of what's going on? And so, I mean, it's, that's such a

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difficult question and I don't, I don't, don't know fully how to answer it, because for each

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person it's a different, you know, thing, but if I, if we step back out to like the big picture,

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I think, I mean, the things that we've been doing, we've been, you know, we had assets,

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most of our assets are held outside traditional banking, so we don't have a lot of cash in the

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banks, we, we keep, I prefer to keep crypto assets, and if you, you don't like the volatility of those

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crypto assets, but you can hold, say, USDC, which is a US dollar, which is, you know,

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tradable peer-to-peer, so as an example, if I wanted to...

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something from Benji, I could buy it without the permission of a bank because it's an Ethereum-based

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token. I can transact it from my Ethereum wallet to his Ethereum wallet without asking for

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permission. So I can't be censored by the bank and Trudeau or Jacinda in the future

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couldn't stop me from trading or paying for my rent if Benji was our landlord.

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So that's one example. I think a good thing to do is to become familiar with cryptocurrency

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and how to transact cryptocurrency even if you just buy $100 worth and just trade it with

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your spouse or a friend and just get familiar with how to transact it.

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That's a step in the right direction.

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Because you don't want to be able to be cancelled.

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And then I've been looking at the macro, what's happening in the markets and how to

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protect your wealth. We have KiwiSaver. A lot of people don't have savings right now,

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but you may have KiwiSaver. One way is to put your KiwiSaver into, say,

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Craig's Investment Partners Fund because they have a fund which will allow you to allocate

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your KiwiSaver. Right now, we're sitting in Gold Miners, which is an ETF which you can choose.

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In the last few weeks, we've seen that depreciate by 10% because there's this cyclical shift

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into commodities. Obviously, Gold Miners are mining gold and gold's a commodity.

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That's one way that you can, I think that it's probably a good idea to do right now.

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Just on that note, you guys have a pretty amazing story with investing into crypto

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basically blowing up really well. I think you said a 20-fold return?

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Yeah, at one stage. And then we didn't sell at that peak. But look, it was an amazing journey

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with Bart and he led us in terms of dates and price points. And because we had all that as

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a word of knowledge and it all worked out, we felt really confident in doing what we did.

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So we had sold everything and we put it all into crypto. And now, at this point in time,

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we have a bit of crypto, but we're mostly out of the market.

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Yeah, because I mean, what sparked that is you've recently gone with friends and actually

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bought a gold mine. Yeah, we're investors in a gold mine. Yeah. So tell us just a little bit

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about your gold mine. It's in a pretty cool part of the South Island of New Zealand.

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Yeah, you know, I think that what I can say is, you know, we're shareholders in a gold mine

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and the Lord's definitely led us to be a part of this adventure. And, you know, we'll see what

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the future holds for it. But yeah, I am really bullish on gold and

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there's some interest, you know, it looks like gold is just about to break out.

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I mean, the price of gold is going to go up a lot. And it's interesting, you know,

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because we've seen a bit of sell off in the last few days and equities and yet gold is breaking up.

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And so gold is typically viewed as an inflation hedge. And in the last two years, we haven't

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really seen gold do anything. But now that inflation is here and inflation is like pregnancy,

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you don't get half pregnant, you get full pregnant. And so inflation is, you know,

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I think it's 7% right now in New Zealand. So yeah, and I could see that, you know,

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going up a whole lot. And that is...

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going to really hurt a lot of people.

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from that pain and we see, you know,

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hedge funds and central banks

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and yeah, all sorts of buyers of gold right now

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because it's that protection,

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that safe place from inflation.

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Yeah. Fantastic, man.

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So from your perspective,

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because I mean, I've always just really appreciated your,

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like you've got a genius way of researching trends

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all around the world.

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Like you're so good at that.

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And I know actually so many of our friends,

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we talk about you behind your back in a way of like,

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man, Ben's just such a genius researcher.

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Like you have these great ways of researching

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and pulling everything together

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and then actually being able to go,

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wow, and speak real wisdom.

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And I know that so many of us actually just like,

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really love to hear your updates

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and what you're seeing lately.

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So if you would see trends of things that,

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I mean, obviously there's gold one,

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but places where you're like,

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hey, I would avoid this and I'd align here.

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I mean, I think that even just what you've given us already

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is like a big mindset shift,

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like stepping out of normal banking

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and actually stepping into crypto,

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but anything else you'd give people

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that they're just kind of discovering,

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hey, I don't think everything is as trustworthy

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as I used to think.

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Any thoughts for them on where they could align right now?

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Yeah, definitely.

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I just think you really need to be able to pray

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and hear God and be willing to act out

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on what he's saying to you.

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Because for all of us, it's all different.

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We're all in different situations.

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And so I could give across the board,

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like this is what you should do.

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But if, I know for us, like we have for sure heard God

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and he is so there, like wanting to speak and to finance.

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And I think for a lot of people like finances,

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they felt like, okay, well,

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the love of money is the root of all evil.

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And so God doesn't care about you

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being wealthy.

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He just cares about your heart.

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And that's true.

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But there's also this element of a righteous man

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leaves an inheritance for his children's children.

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And so like God will speak into your finances

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and he will release like pills of wisdom

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for you to follow the path

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that you're to follow to being in a position

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where you can leave a rich inheritance

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for your children's children.

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And so I just feel that if anything,

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I just want to speak to people and say like,

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just trust him with everything.

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You know, it's not, I surrender 10%.

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You know, that song is I surrender all.

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of everything that you have in your hand,

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you will hear him.

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he will be able to entrust you with more,

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but you'll also have to surrender that more.

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And it's just a cycle, you know,

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like he'll give you more.

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You'll have to walk with open hands,

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like willing to give it all to him or whatever he wants.

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You to give it to, or like invest, you know,

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and being able to keep giving you more and more

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and more and more.

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And yeah, that's what I would say.

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Beautiful.

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Yeah, that's a genius, a genius tip.

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Hey, one other question,

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and probably be close to our last question

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before we wrap up.

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Obviously we've seen that Trudeau is freezing bank accounts,

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but he was also trying to freeze crypto wallets.

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Now, how much control can governments ultimately bring

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on the blockchain?

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Or is that something that in some ways

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they can't entirely control the blockchain?

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Yeah, that's an interesting question.

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So they, different exchanges will give them information

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about the accounts which they are sending.

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So as an example, so you sign up for an exchange,

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say it's finance.

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Now you have to go through anti-money laundering.

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a process with verification with them exactly to get an account.

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And so they collect all your information.

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It might be a picture of your passport and all of that stuff.

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Then they'll also ask you what's the source of its funds.

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So it may be the sale of your house, like it was in our situation,

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or it might be your income.

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And so they're gathering all this information.

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Now, they can turn around and get that to your local government or national

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government.

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And a part of the anti-money laundering act,

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then they actually have a responsibility to.

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Right.

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And they do.

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Now, the account which you send your crypto from,

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so your finance account, so on this exchange where you buy cryptocurrency,

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that account knows the address that you sent those crypto assets to.

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So this is now your personal.

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So when you have an account on an exchange,

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it's controlled by that exchange.

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When you have a personal cryptocurrency account,

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so that might be a hardware wallet.

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Getting into something like that.

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There you go.

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One of those.

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Those are great.

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I've got one of those.

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So, yeah.

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So you want to send it to your self custody wallet,

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which is like what Benji just held up there.

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Now, the government can't stop you at that point from doing anything.

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The government could stop you while your cryptocurrency is sitting on an exchange

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because they might have a conversation with the exchange and say,

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hey, look, our country is freezing all crypto assets.

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And we are setting up a banking system where you'll be able to send those crypto assets

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to a registered bank like ASB.

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So ASB may set up in the future because the government can control ASB.

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And so Binance said, OK, cool.

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Well, we'll only send those crypto assets to ASB in the future.

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And for now, we'll just freeze them.

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Right.

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So you've got a window of opportunity now where this isn't happening.

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And I know in the US, all of the banks in the US have been given the green light

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to set up these like crypto accounts.

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So banks in the US can custody crypto on behalf of users of their services.

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And so I think that this is ultimately the way the world governments will go.

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But right now, if you hold a ledger like Benji has, and I have one myself,

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or even an app-based wallet like Trust Wallet, which you can download from the App Store.

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So you don't even have to buy a physical device.

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Those wallets are purely peer-to-peer and interact with the blockchain.

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And the government would have to shut down the internet to stop it.

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Yeah.

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So it's like email, you know, an email.

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I send an email to you.

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I could be running my own email server.

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You can be running your own email server.

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Now, we don't typically do that.

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We use like Gmail or like iCloud or something.

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And so ultimately, those services are giving us permission.

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But we could run our own email server on the internet.

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And we could be doing truly peer-to-peer messages.

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It's the same thing, except with value.

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And yeah.

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Yeah, so it's pretty exciting in the sense,

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you know, like we're in this whole new era where parallel economies are emerging.

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And there's more pressure on us than ever before to actually step into those.

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And it's not something that we've orchestrated,

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but just the hour of governments and control and banks where it's all going.

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It's really in that space now where we have to kind of take responsibility,

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create our own independent economy that actually transcends government and banking.

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Yeah.

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And I think that's effectively it.

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It's about taking back your sovereignty from these companies.

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And that's what crypto is about.

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It's about taking your power back from the banking system,

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which has, you know, for many years been hidden, the power that they have over.

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your expression of value right because whenever you buy something you're expressing your values

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as a person right but there is um you know there in our um short to mid-term future we're going to

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have central central bank digital currency now the government and whoever's in power

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will be able to stop you from expressing your values through their currency you know so they

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may stop you from giving to churches they may stop you from being able to buy from a pro-choice

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cafe you know um and i believe that that that is um the beginning that's going to be the beginning

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like giving the government the ability to determine how you you spend and or you know

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express your values as a person um it's very very dangerous and it's not going to end well

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yeah so and i think we've got to wrap up now because you've got to go but i think

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yeah where that kind of lead where it kind of leaves us right now is in a place where

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it's not like a a nice kind of idea in the future like in the past you know a few years ago it was

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kind of like a nice idea of this type of stuff now it's more like an urgent need that we have

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to get really intentional about creating our own independent economies uh in order so that basically

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so that we're not enslaved not controlled by government overreach by banking systems that

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decide hey you have a different value system to us we're cancelling your life we're cancelling

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your funds yeah yeah exactly well benji and said thank you so much for um this time this morning

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um we're going to be traveling back up to um the mount um today so we're gonna i've got to do

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but um bless you guys and thanks so much again later absolutely we're stoked thank you for your

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time you have a wonderful trip and great stuff being down there at the protest bless you man