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All right, family, are we happening?

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I think we must be about live now.

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Yeah.

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We're rocking.

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It is happening, it is on session number 14.

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This is wild.

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We are nearly halfway in the Kingdom Business Summit.

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Seb, how are you feeling?

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I'm doing great, I'm doing great.

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My office where I'm sitting, the sun rises behind me, but then it sets right in front

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of me.

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So the sun is about to get to that point where it's going to be streaming on my face, vitamin

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D on my face.

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I am excited about that.

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That is very cool.

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But we are outrageously honored with all the beautiful people that we've had on this journey.

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And it's so precious and special for us to be able to host Marina with us today, someone

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who we've had just such beautiful adventures together around the world and deep journeys

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into God.

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We lived in the same town together for a bunch of times, for several years, building ministry

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together and leading missions together and dreaming together and taking outrageous risks

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and seeing God come through with amazing breakthroughs.

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And it really is an honor and delight to welcome you, Marina, to be sharing with us today.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Benji.

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It's such an honor to be here, to connect with all of you guys.

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Something that I've always loved and appreciated about who you are, Marina, is your capacity

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to embrace the process of the renewing of your mind.

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It's like poetry in motion when someone masters a principle from heaven.

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And seeing you mastering this process of the renewing of your mind, it really has been

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like that.

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It's been like poetry in motion watching it because you see your life and how it's like

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the journey that it's come on and the beauty that you carry and the beauty that you radiate

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is just so beautiful.

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I think that when people see the atmosphere that you carry, the goodness and the light

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that you radiate all around you, they would never be able to imagine where your journey

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began or what you've walked through in your life because you're just radiating the atmosphere

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of heaven.

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And I'm so excited to hear your story and so delighted for people to be able to connect

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with you more.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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And I've had that actually said before that people would come and say, there is no way

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you've been through that.

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How can you even share that without weeping your eyes out?

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And that's the transformational and empowering healing of Jesus.

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He's the only one who can do that.

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Thank you for all your encouraging words.

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You're always, always, as long as I've known you, never heard a bad word towards myself

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or other people.

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It's been always very, very encouraging.

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Thank you, Benji.

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Thank you.

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Oh, thanks so much.

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Well, how about you pray for us now and then we are going to jump into a really powerful

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story.

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So everyone, brace yourself.

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This is going to be a roller coaster of goodness and chaos and redemption.

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And you're going to see just the power of just the redeeming power of Jesus at work

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in this story.

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So Marina, why don't you take it away?

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Thank you.

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Yes.

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Well, I bless you, everyone who is connected and everyone who's going to watch later.

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I bless you with certainty and faith in the powerful name of Yeshua HaMashiach, Lord,

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King of Kings and Elohim of Elohim, Jesus Christ bless you with faith.

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May God reveal to you everything you need to know to come into the fullness of who you

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created to be.

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May he bless you with the blessings that reveal.

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His true nature. His character. I bless your soul. I bless your spirit. I bless your mind.

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I bless your body. I bless your family. I bless your home. I bless your town. I bless

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the country that you live in. May God reveal to you the depth of His love for you. May

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He plant the seed of truth in your spirit that will deliver you. May He reveal to you

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the true nature of who He is, the good, good Papa. I bless you in the name of Yeshua HaMashiach.

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And I decree and declare abundance in every sphere of your life, in your finances, in

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your relationships, in your marriage, in your relationships with your children. I bless

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you. And I seal that with the name of Yeshua HaMashiach. Thank you, Abba. Thank you, Yeshua,

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your good, good Papa. Your good Papa will love you. We delight in you.

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Wow. Good. So good. I love it. I love it. I love it. It's amazing. I, you know, I, I've

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heard a lot, a little bit about your story. And I've heard the, you know, some of the

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impacts of the journey that you've been on. And I'm sure we'll, we'll, we'll get into

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the detail. But the, you know, we're in this Kingdom Business Summit. And, you know, one

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of the themes that's been so prevalent through this whole thing is that the world is going

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a little crazy. And the global financial markets are doing crazy things. Inflation here in

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the US and in New Zealand is rocking around like 7%. And, which is crazy. You know, it's

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a high for us for a while. And I know inflation had a huge, huge impact on your journey, and

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your childhood as well. And I'd love for you to just speak to that the impact of inflation,

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the impact of government overreach and inside these dynamics, how's that been? How have

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you navigated that? What happened? And start us off there. And maybe we could go further

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Oh, we'll definitely go further from there. But I want to start with one of my...

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Oh, hey, I'm just, I'm just going to interrupt there. Just so we've got lots of people saying

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hello, and thanks for your beautiful prayer. So everyone, great to be with you. And if

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you haven't yet say hi to Marina, whether in the right now or in the future, just say

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hi. So yeah, lots of people saying hi, and they love you. And thanks for your prayer.

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Thanks. I just wanted to let you know, people are excited and checking with us.

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Hi, guys. And I want to start with one of my favorite quotes that says that in life

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more often than not, the greatest pain becomes the greatest strength that empowers us to

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serve others. Now repeat that in life more often than not, the greatest pain will become

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the greatest strength that will empower us to serve others. And I've seen that in my

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life. I've seen that in so many of my friends' lives. And that's very empowering to know

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that your past does not equal your present or even your future. Right. And also Isaiah

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64, that's been like a cornerstone for me. No eyes have seen and no ears have heard what

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prepared for those who wait on him or another translation says, who loves him, you know,

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or another translation says, God will work on your behalf, as you wait for him as you

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love him. And that's become such an evident, evident truth in my life that back when I

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did not even have capacity to dream and lived in such deep poverty and brokenness and, and

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pain to now, where not only there's been such a transformational healing in my life, but

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also Jesus empowered me to serve others. And that's been an incredible journey. And I will

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take you on, you know, I will share with you some of the horrific realities of inflation and poverty,

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but not for not so we dwell on it and not so we feel pity, you know, or necessary source.

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sadness because that's a reality for so many people.

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But the reason I share that it's to testify

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of the empowering transformational love of Jesus

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because he's the only one who can take someone

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in communistic and Muslim, very crazy, environment and poverty

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and to bring care to the place of empowerment.

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So just to reiterate, I will take

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you on the journey of there is realities, broken realities,

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but we will come to now where what Jesus have done.

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So back to your question, Seth, I

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wouldn't even know where to begin,

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but I feel like I need to just talk

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a little bit about the cycles of brokenness

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because very often when we look at the life of one person,

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you can trace it to so many generations

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in that cycle of brokenness.

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And at least the cycle is broken by this cycle of love.

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It's curious to generations and generations.

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And that's when I look even back to my grandma,

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and she grew up in an orphanage.

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And she was the only survivor of nine children.

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So when she, I'm going to just fast forward,

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when she ended up in orphanage, and that's during the war,

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when she came out, none of her siblings were around

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and none of her parents or grandparents, everyone perished

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and she couldn't find anyone.

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I don't know much about my father's side

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other than they are descended from Persia, from Iran.

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So then fast forward, she marries,

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she had four children.

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Her husband was very abusive.

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She was brutally abusive, actually.

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Like he would pour hot water over her, beat her up,

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just insane stuff, right?

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And she ended up living on the streets with four children.

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And my oldest child, my aunt,

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she used to tell me stories how they would sit

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at Russian Orthodox churches,

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and that's back in Tajikistan, and beg.

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and sometimes people would take them in as well.

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then they will kick them out

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because taking care of mom with four little children,

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that's a challenge.

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I'm probably diversing a little bit from your questions,

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but I feel like I need to share that.

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To live with an elderly lady with four kids.

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They got in an argument and a fight.

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My grandma hit her and the lady died.

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So grandma went to the prison

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and four little children went into orphanages.

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This whole orphanage thing is like, it's a pattern.

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It used to be a pattern and cycles of this,

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of this sweet thing, you know, brokenness.

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So all kids goes into orphanages.

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Now I'm gonna go back to my mom.

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So she comes out.

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sexually abused, physically abused,

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and ended up marrying my dad, 18 years older than her,

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had me and my sister,

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and then ends up living that toxic relationship

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and remarrying again and having my brother.

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and then my stepdad ends up in the prison.

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And at the same time, the Soviet Union collapses.

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And probably a lot of, you know-

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Just to clarify for people, like where were you born?

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Oh, I omitted that.

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That's probably a very important part.

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Tajikistan.

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So that's where I am.

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Help us track and where's, yeah, yeah.

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I think that's where you were going,

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but where is Tajikistan?

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It's West of China, North of Afghanistan.

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It's inland.

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especially recently, Afghanistan in the news,

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Kazakhstan in the news.

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So we're right in the middle of that.

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actually China as well, and Afghanistan.

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So those, that gives you a little bit of picture.

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So Tajikistan used to be actually Persia,

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and then the Russians came and took over

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and been in the country for over a hundred years.

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So it's quite culturally also a challenging place

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because Persians, and then, you know,

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very much influenced by Russian culture.

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don't actually even speak Tajiks, or half who don't speak, you know, the language of the land.

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So yeah, so Soviet Union collapses, because Tajikistan was part of Soviet Union's collapses,

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and that brings cultural, economical, and political chaos.

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Absolutely, because the struggle for power, that it's a Muslim country, right, and radical Islam,

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Islamists want to take over, and put hijab on women, and bring Shia law, hardcore Shia law,

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and then there's a fight for that, plus culturally, okay, are we Tajiks, plus we have all this

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Russian influence, who we are, so then discrimination against Russian begins,

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or even, you know, pure Tajik, that begins, and of course, economically, and I was about

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seven, eight years old, we would get up early, like at three or four o'clock, and sometimes all

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night, we would stand in a queue, so we just received a small piece of bread, that's how

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we were struggling, we would get little tickets for each family, how much bread you allowed, and

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bread was so fluffy, you could just put it in a little bowl, so no flour, we were just in poverty,

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it was very, very challenging time, and of course, by then, my stepfather ended up in the prison,

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actually, he just went and stole something to feed us, right, and got caught, and now there's

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still aspects of Shia law, the punishment increases the crime by much, here in New Zealand,

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you probably just do a community service, when Tajikistan, you go to prison for years,

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so my mom left in this situation with, you know, no job, people started losing the jobs, factory

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was shutting down, people were leaving the country, especially Russians, and she loses her job,

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and my stepfather in the prison, three little kids, it was just an absolute chaos, and I just

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remember snippets of it, because I think a lot of it as a survival mechanism, I just blocked it

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to survive, and then long story short, she started drinking heavily, it amazes me how in poverty,

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you know, you might not be able to find bread, but you always find alcohol, I just,

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and she got, you know, she got involved with wrong crowds, some of them were part of

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organized gangs and mafia, and she turned into prostitution, and that was horrific, because

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actually, we lived in one bedroom, which we had just one room in the kitchen, and our home turned into

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a brothel, and for me being, by then, I probably was 10, 11, I lived in such a denial, like part of me

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seeing all this men coming in and abusing my mom, realized that something is wrong, and part of me,

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I just denied it, I was like, that can't be reality, and of course, my sister and brother

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was little, so at school, and on the streets, it's a small city, people got to know very quickly who my

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mom became, so we would be called daughter of a prostitute, or son of a prostitute, sometimes the

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boys would throw stones at us, we were constantly getting in a fight, so streets became toxic, and

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dangerous, and scary, and home was the same, my mom would drink, because of the shame and the pain,

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what she had to do, sacrifice herself, she could have sold us, and parents did that, but she

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sacrificed herself to feed us, and it wasn't even a lot of money, that's the crazy thing, we still lived

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in poverty, but that was just for us to survive, we sold pretty much everything we own, I mean, we

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didn't own a lot, but we sleep on the floors, we didn't have no beds, no couch, nothing at home,

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and sometimes she'd close us in the kitchen, and men would come into the living room, so we would

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constantly live in this environment, and I remember, I may, and actually remember the conversation,

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he looked at me, and she said, well, he said, well, she's of age, I'll give you one sheep for her,

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so that's kind of environment for lives, and of course, now that she's also drinking,

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that anger and rage that she lived with, plus all the pain from the past, started affecting

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how she treated us, so she started beating us, abusing us, so that was the reality of, you know,

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cycles of brokenness, by the time I was 12, I already tried to commit suicide twice,

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it was just darkened, and yeah, so this is just a snippet of, I'm not going to go into too much

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detail, so yeah, some of the abuse that we

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experience as little kids because, yeah, too much of it.

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So that's, if that's answering your question,

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that's a long answer to your question, Seth,

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how inflation poverty can and very often will affect

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the extent of to which parents will go

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to protect their children or provide for their children.

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But the thing is it didn't necessarily protect us.

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It's hurt us significantly, but people say,

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oh, well, she had a choice.

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No, she didn't have a choice.

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The other alternative would be to let us starve to death

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or to sell us, but there wasn't a lot of choice.

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I mean, this is, to me, this is so key in,

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I mean, this is actually a key part of the process

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of discipling nations.

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And when we're talking kingdom business,

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sometimes people don't realize the value

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of prospering businesses, you know,

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without prospering businesses, without an economy,

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nations fall into complete collapse, economic collapse.

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And that means something for the people

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that are a part of that economy.

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So I guess that, you know, like the process,

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it really highlights the value of kingdom business.

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It really highlights that value of how critical economics is

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to the process of discipling nations.

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Because if you get that wrong,

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like the Soviet Union collapsed, when they got that wrong,

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the collateral damage was fall out

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for tens of millions of people.

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I mean, millions and millions of people

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just crashed into poverty

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because they got the economics wrong.

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So there is a lot at play here,

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and I think it should cause us to be really conscious

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and engaged with what's happening right now.

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Because we're seeing inflation rising and rising right now.

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We have to be conscious of the fact,

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okay, hey, this is a really disturbing trend.

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We've seen it in other nations.

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We've seen it in history of what this actually ends up meaning

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for individuals as things collapse around them.

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So Marina, I just want to touch a little bit more

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on just a couple of other parts of your story.

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And then I want to bring it into now

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how you're actually bringing reformation.

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Because we talked yesterday about these three principles

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of Jesus's economic training plan for us.

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One is alignment so that we have purity of heart and mind.

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You know, because if we don't have purity of heart,

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you know, then greed will rule over us

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and if we don't have, you know,

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an understanding of economics, you know,

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and economic principles, then money will rule over us

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because we just won't have any.

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You know, so money can rule over us

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either through having our, you know,

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like it becoming an idol

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or just because we simply don't have any

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and it forces us into situations

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or it just rules over us in that way.

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So money can rule over you because it, you know,

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it becomes an idol or because you just don't have anything

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and it controls you.

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So we talked about that.

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We talked about assignment

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that we have a sacred financial assignment on our lives,

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which is to steward what we've been given

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to produce multiplication.

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And then the third part is reformation.

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And what reformation is,

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is reformation, financial reformation,

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which leads to discipling nations

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actually starts on a one-on-one basis.

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It starts with me going,

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hey, how can I create opportunities

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for the people around me?

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And this to me is like actually so much

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of the heart of the kingdom,

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so much of the heart of what fathering looks like

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and sonship looks like.

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One of the things the Lord said to me in Te Ano

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is that fathers create opportunities.

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And that right there,

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that's enterprise in action.

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And that's one of the elements of reformation

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of how, you know,

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how Jesus teaches us financial wisdom

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is first, make sure you're in alignment

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and you've got a pure heart

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and you understand financial principles

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so that you're not in poverty

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and you're not serving money as an idol.

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Then understand, learn how to steward the economics

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and become a great steward so you can multiply

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and then bring other people into your world,

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whether it's by teaching,

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whether it's by creating an opportunity for them

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or something.

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So we're gonna jump into this in a moment

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of how you've actually flipped the script

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and how you're now in a place

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where you're actually creating opportunity.

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But take me back to a couple of key points.

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Oh, there's three key points

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that are probably gonna be quite big points here,

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but you mentioned something crazy right now.

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By the time you were...

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Well, did you say you'd already tried to commit suicide twice?

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Yeah. So I'd love to hear about that, because you were.

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So, yeah, I mean, let's start there.

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Like what happened?

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You were on your way to commit suicide and something happened.

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Yeah. Third attempt.

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Well, my first attempt was mercury.

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I actually learned that if you saved, if you break.

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Yeah, my first attempt was like, oh, no, no, no.

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That's my third attempt. Yeah.

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You know, I tried to cut myself.

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I tried to drown myself. I would meditate on suicide.

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And I mean, how does 12, 13 year old come to such deep darkness

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and no hope, you know, where teenagers play and dream

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and and, you know, do all of this cool things?

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How does a bond come when I look at 13, 12 year old now?

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And I'm like, I was 12, 13 when I already that's consuming me.

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Well, because everywhere I went and everywhere I look, I saw brokenness.

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Well, of course, the the the impact of

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subterranean collapsing and the cycles of my family.

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The home was not safe.

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My mom mostly was drunk.

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And it was always man was beating the verbal, emotional

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on all aspects of abuse at school in a school was sort of almost a safe place.

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But I'm not really, you know, the streets were not.

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So anywhere I went, it was dark.

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It was it was scary.

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And also girls my age already start

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sleeping around in traffic.

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And so I knew it's coming my way.

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Already men who would come to my house looked at me and ask questions.

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So I lived in so much fear.

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That was my greatest fear, that something sexually would happen to me as well.

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So that's why I thought the only way out is to kill myself

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because there is no purpose.

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There is no reason to leave.

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And I remember like just a few months before my third attempt,

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which would have been fatal because I've done my to the best of my ability

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research and I saved enough mercury to poison myself.

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How do I now looking back like, wow, that's quite creative.

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But I remember December 31st.

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I was hanging out with with people, with my with my peers late at night.

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Twelve one o'clock. It's a new year.

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If it's a big celebration there, people are drunk.

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We're walking from one place to another.

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And I remember looking at the sky and just feeling that

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this the heavens were calling me.

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You know, I just feel like there is something bigger.

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And remember, I'm a communistic country, Muslim country.

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No, like no capacity or not capacity,

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but no preconceived notions of who God and I mean how nothing.

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But I just felt this call like I knew there is something more to life.

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There is something bigger.

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I remember looking at the sky at night and almost wanting to weep.

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But I had no idea how to get there.

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And I think that was my another thing.

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I know there is something, but I don't know what to do.

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And that's kind of led me to like I you know, there's not a choice.

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So on the day I wrote my mom a letter when I was in March 17th,

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1997, I wrote my mom a letter explaining why and what

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and went to school to say goodbye to to

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not directly going to school to just as my last day.

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And I was on my way from school back home

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because I hid all this mercury in the matching box.

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And a girl invited me to church.

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And I vaguely heard that there are some Koreans, some crazy people somewhere,

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you know, but nothing really of much.

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I just heard some of my friends went to church,

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but didn't have a concept what it is.

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So she invited me to church and I was like, not really,

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because I thought Russian Orthodox, you know, what you see on TV,

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dark, gloomy candles, ladies with, you know, head covering.

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No, but something inside of me pulled me to.

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So I just went to her and I remember getting into the bus,

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coming to to this massive building where the South Korean doesn't

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want to collapse all the South Koreans missionaries on fire.

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They were on fire.

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I mean, and you met some some of the South Koreans when they pray,

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the wall shake literally the frequency in the room.

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And you had to be so on fire because the atmosphere in the country was chaos.

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So I walk in and there's just, you know, nothing what I imagined.

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There's some people in front of worship and we're sitting

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and they start worshiping.

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And I remember I have no greed

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for what Christianity, who Jesus God is nothing.

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I had some experience of spiritual experiences before.

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But as I said, and as they started singing, I felt the present

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come and set by me.

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And now I can, of course, put words.

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It was Papa. It was my Abba.

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He put his hand over me as I wept and wept and wept.

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And he.

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He said, it's okay, you're mine, you're gonna be fine.

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It's gonna be all right now.

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In Russian, he spoke in Russian to me.

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He said, Marina.

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So,

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So, he just start pouring.

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It was just a couple of sentences really,

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but the feeling and the reality of it

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is so real that no one could ever convince me otherwise.

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You know, I experienced Abba's love.

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Wow.

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Such a deep level.

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And that was the moment for me, you know?

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And I had that moment.

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That was the moment for me.

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And ever since then,

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just having the revelation who Jesus is

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and the transformational healing power,

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I've never looked back, never looked back.

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I've passionately fell in love with Jesus.

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And I remember, you know,

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cause I was fiery afterwards.

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And I remember someone told me that,

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oh, it will subside, you know,

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as you grow and mature, it will subside.

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You're a bit too far, you know?

482
00:30:59.560 --> 00:31:01.600
And actually it's increased, you know?

483
00:31:01.600 --> 00:31:04.600
Come on, come on.

484
00:31:04.600 --> 00:31:06.960
I become more crazy and more in love

485
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:08.800
and more on fire for him.

486
00:31:08.800 --> 00:31:10.760
And it's definitely still a journey

487
00:31:10.760 --> 00:31:12.000
and always will be a journey,

488
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:14.280
but I absolutely in love with Jesus.

489
00:31:14.280 --> 00:31:15.120
Yeah.

490
00:31:15.120 --> 00:31:18.240
Come on, that's wild.

491
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:21.360
So, you know, but it wasn't all roses, you know?

492
00:31:21.360 --> 00:31:23.600
Like it wasn't all roses after that.

493
00:31:23.600 --> 00:31:25.480
You encountered Jesus,

494
00:31:25.480 --> 00:31:27.280
encountered love for the first time.

495
00:31:27.840 --> 00:31:30.760
You cancel suicide plans,

496
00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:34.640
but still after that, still things got pretty hectic.

497
00:31:34.640 --> 00:31:37.600
I mean, you had times living on the streets.

498
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:39.680
Yeah.

499
00:31:39.680 --> 00:31:41.680
I mean, times that were really, really challenging.

500
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:44.080
I mean, you, you yourself almost got trafficked.

501
00:31:46.360 --> 00:31:47.280
Yes.

502
00:31:47.280 --> 00:31:48.960
Before I knew what trafficked was,

503
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:50.800
yeah, that was a crazy story.

504
00:31:50.800 --> 00:31:52.160
And my family was affected.

505
00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:54.720
My sister was trafficked, my brother was trafficked.

506
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:56.760
I mean, this is very, very close home.

507
00:31:57.920 --> 00:32:01.720
My mom was a victim of a sexual exploitation.

508
00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:03.560
And then of course, living in poverty,

509
00:32:03.560 --> 00:32:04.760
you are so vulnerable.

510
00:32:04.760 --> 00:32:06.440
And as an older sister,

511
00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:07.920
I've always was in a position,

512
00:32:07.920 --> 00:32:09.320
I need to provide for my family.

513
00:32:09.320 --> 00:32:10.360
I need to provide for my family.

514
00:32:10.360 --> 00:32:12.600
So my best friend, Yulia,

515
00:32:13.680 --> 00:32:15.800
who actually was trafficked herself to Israel.

516
00:32:15.800 --> 00:32:19.560
And when she came back, she managed to escape.

517
00:32:19.560 --> 00:32:21.640
She died shortly after.

518
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:22.840
That's another horrific story.

519
00:32:22.840 --> 00:32:26.400
But she said, oh, I have a job

520
00:32:26.440 --> 00:32:27.720
because I've always looked for a job.

521
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:29.560
I worked as long as I remember.

522
00:32:29.560 --> 00:32:31.400
You know, it was something,

523
00:32:31.400 --> 00:32:32.600
trying to bring a little bit home.

524
00:32:32.600 --> 00:32:37.240
And my best friend, she introduced me to him.

525
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:38.640
And she said, oh, he has a job.

526
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:39.880
It's a really well-paid job.

527
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:41.680
You wouldn't even have to do much.

528
00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:44.200
Okay, so I meet with this, looking back,

529
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:46.240
really dodgy guy.

530
00:32:46.240 --> 00:32:48.680
And he said, oh, I have a package for you.

531
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:51.840
All you need to do is take this package

532
00:32:51.840 --> 00:32:55.440
and I will put you on the train to Moscow.

533
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.160
You will deliver the package hand-to-hand.

534
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:00.360
They will put you back on a train and you'll come back

535
00:33:00.360 --> 00:33:01.920
and I'll give you this amount of money.

536
00:33:01.920 --> 00:33:04.000
And I was like, whoa, that's amazing.

537
00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:05.280
That's so, yeah, I can do that.

538
00:33:05.280 --> 00:33:06.840
It was a little bit scary.

539
00:33:06.840 --> 00:33:08.880
I've never been out of the country.

540
00:33:08.880 --> 00:33:11.040
But looking back, I'm thinking,

541
00:33:11.040 --> 00:33:12.240
living in such a brokenness,

542
00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.240
as a kid, you still want to trust.

543
00:33:14.240 --> 00:33:17.280
You still think, oh, you know, nothing will happen to me.

544
00:33:17.280 --> 00:33:19.000
This is my best friend.

545
00:33:19.000 --> 00:33:19.960
No way.

546
00:33:21.960 --> 00:33:25.040
Anyways, so the man, and of course by then

547
00:33:25.600 --> 00:33:26.440
I already lived in the streets.

548
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:28.160
My mom actually kicked me out for going to church.

549
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:29.120
That's not a long story.

550
00:33:29.120 --> 00:33:31.240
But I lived in the streets, went from home to home

551
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:34.880
and lived literally on the roofs of the building

552
00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:36.680
to stay safe.

553
00:33:36.680 --> 00:33:39.520
And so I was quite desperate.

554
00:33:39.520 --> 00:33:40.840
So he takes me home.

555
00:33:40.840 --> 00:33:42.320
He get, you know, we get in the car.

556
00:33:42.320 --> 00:33:43.720
He's like, oh, I'll get you some clothes.

557
00:33:43.720 --> 00:33:45.400
Cause I looked like, you know,

558
00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:47.400
someone who lived on the streets, obviously.

559
00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:49.440
So he takes me to the market, get me some clothes.

560
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:52.040
And I remember how uncomfortable I was in the clothes

561
00:33:52.040 --> 00:33:53.800
because the skirt was too short

562
00:33:53.800 --> 00:33:55.720
and I didn't dress like that, you know?

563
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:58.280
So I already started feeling like, oh.

564
00:33:58.280 --> 00:34:00.960
And then he brings me home.

565
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:03.320
And of course I think that there would be wife, children.

566
00:34:03.320 --> 00:34:05.320
This is an adult man.

567
00:34:05.320 --> 00:34:06.160
Well, there wasn't.

568
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.560
So we're sitting there, you start cooking.

569
00:34:08.560 --> 00:34:09.679
There wasn't wife.

570
00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:10.960
Anyways, long story short,

571
00:34:10.960 --> 00:34:14.360
that night he was trying to sexually abuse me.

572
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:16.520
But I've never heard this story before in my life.

573
00:34:16.520 --> 00:34:19.880
He actually physically could not do anything to me.

574
00:34:19.880 --> 00:34:21.159
I remember freezing.

575
00:34:21.159 --> 00:34:23.239
It was so paralyzed with fear.

576
00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:24.679
I couldn't even scream.

577
00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:26.320
I remember hearing people outside.

578
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:28.440
It was late at night, men walking.

579
00:34:28.440 --> 00:34:31.760
And I said, maybe I can scream for help.

580
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:34.480
But then I thought, what if this man are bad as well?

581
00:34:34.480 --> 00:34:36.040
Because this person is bad.

582
00:34:36.040 --> 00:34:37.600
Maybe they're bad as well.

583
00:34:37.600 --> 00:34:40.000
I was paralyzed with fear,

584
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:41.800
but physically he couldn't do anything.

585
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:43.719
And in the morning, he just let me go.

586
00:34:43.719 --> 00:34:45.239
He just, I just go home.

587
00:34:45.239 --> 00:34:47.199
Later on, what I realized that the package

588
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:50.280
that I was trying would have been delivering was me.

589
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:51.719
I was the package.

590
00:34:51.760 --> 00:34:53.239
So that's whole story.

591
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:56.719
I just be really intrigued by this.

592
00:34:56.719 --> 00:34:58.400
What do you mean he physically couldn't do anything?

593
00:34:58.400 --> 00:34:59.800
Like what happened?

594
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.360
nothing was happening to his junk.

595
00:35:02.360 --> 00:35:04.280
And so he couldn't get an erection.

596
00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:05.280
No, he couldn't.

597
00:35:05.280 --> 00:35:08.720
So of course at that point, I mean, I'm a kid,

598
00:35:08.720 --> 00:35:12.200
nothing sexually have happened to me before.

599
00:35:12.200 --> 00:35:13.760
I lived in fear,

600
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:16.680
like conscious of things around me happening,

601
00:35:16.680 --> 00:35:21.120
but I was so, I was like a little, you know, wolf.

602
00:35:21.120 --> 00:35:23.120
I would just run from men.

603
00:35:23.120 --> 00:35:27.200
I actually, I hated anyone who, you know, who was man, boy,

604
00:35:27.200 --> 00:35:28.920
I would fight all the time.

605
00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:33.040
So I wasn't this flirtatious, you know, and yeah.

606
00:35:33.040 --> 00:35:37.560
But so he actually tried, but couldn't do anything.

607
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:41.120
That's some of like, when I look back,

608
00:35:41.120 --> 00:35:43.120
of course I blogged that out of my memory

609
00:35:43.120 --> 00:35:45.680
because the pattern is when some,

610
00:35:45.680 --> 00:35:49.240
when sexual abuse happened to a girl or a boy,

611
00:35:49.240 --> 00:35:52.120
it's, you know, you feel dirty.

612
00:35:52.120 --> 00:35:53.920
You feel that you've done something wrong.

613
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:55.400
You feel guilty, you know?

614
00:35:55.400 --> 00:35:58.720
So subconsciously you just put this back.

615
00:35:59.520 --> 00:36:01.760
As a shame thing and blogging,

616
00:36:01.760 --> 00:36:03.920
that's what happened to me for many, many years.

617
00:36:03.920 --> 00:36:07.200
I was just in the back until things start clicking

618
00:36:07.200 --> 00:36:10.840
and Jesus started healing my heart and my memory

619
00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:14.240
bringing and showing me where he was, you know,

620
00:36:14.240 --> 00:36:16.280
it's so powerful.

621
00:36:16.280 --> 00:36:19.160
Now that was before, I want to point out,

622
00:36:19.160 --> 00:36:21.200
I had an encounter with God.

623
00:36:21.200 --> 00:36:26.200
I didn't pray, you know, that was before, I was about 12.

624
00:36:26.240 --> 00:36:27.080
So-

625
00:36:27.080 --> 00:36:29.600
The trafficking story was?

626
00:36:29.600 --> 00:36:30.440
Yes.

627
00:36:30.440 --> 00:36:31.280
Oh, wow.

628
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:32.840
So you were, that was crazy.

629
00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:34.320
Before I became,

630
00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:39.080
before I had an actual conscious experience with God.

631
00:36:39.080 --> 00:36:41.440
So Jesus, the reason the memory came,

632
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:44.840
because he was showing me all the times

633
00:36:44.840 --> 00:36:46.920
that he was right there.

634
00:36:46.920 --> 00:36:49.640
Because this story is such a pivotal moment in my life,

635
00:36:49.640 --> 00:36:51.640
just saying, I've never heard of abuse,

636
00:36:51.640 --> 00:36:53.440
like in the middle of the abuse,

637
00:36:53.440 --> 00:36:55.240
he was probably wanting to break me

638
00:36:55.240 --> 00:36:57.680
and then send me to Moscow, you know,

639
00:36:57.680 --> 00:37:00.080
that he physically could not do anything.

640
00:37:00.080 --> 00:37:01.600
And he just sent me away.

641
00:37:03.080 --> 00:37:06.480
And I remember just blocking it,

642
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:09.400
just blocking it as something, yeah.

643
00:37:09.400 --> 00:37:10.240
Yeah, totally.

644
00:37:10.240 --> 00:37:13.200
The hand of God on you right there, protecting you.

645
00:37:13.200 --> 00:37:16.200
And so I just want to touch on one more thing

646
00:37:16.200 --> 00:37:18.160
and then we're going to get into how things are,

647
00:37:18.160 --> 00:37:19.480
how you're really flipping the script

648
00:37:19.480 --> 00:37:20.840
in this space right now.

649
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:24.320
But what happened to your mom

650
00:37:24.320 --> 00:37:29.320
after this whole lifestyle of exploitation and alcohol?

651
00:37:33.440 --> 00:37:34.280
What happened?

652
00:37:37.120 --> 00:37:38.120
I just want to point out

653
00:37:38.120 --> 00:37:41.040
that my mom was truly a phenomenal woman.

654
00:37:41.040 --> 00:37:42.440
I want to honor her,

655
00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:45.560
but she sacrificed herself to protect us.

656
00:37:45.560 --> 00:37:48.640
I remember no one ever, she would beat us up,

657
00:37:48.640 --> 00:37:52.520
but no one ever was allowed to touch us, ever.

658
00:37:52.520 --> 00:37:54.520
She was a very powerful woman.

659
00:37:55.440 --> 00:38:00.440
And I remember crying to God and asking God,

660
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:02.120
give me my mom back,

661
00:38:02.120 --> 00:38:04.560
because seeing what alcohol and that shame

662
00:38:04.560 --> 00:38:06.800
and that brokenness was doing to her,

663
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.000
it was unprecedented.

664
00:38:11.120 --> 00:38:13.280
It was just nothing that I've ever seen.

665
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:15.800
She was turning into almost a monster,

666
00:38:15.800 --> 00:38:17.320
you know, right in front of us.

667
00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:18.920
And then your drink, of course,

668
00:38:18.920 --> 00:38:20.400
did not that and would cry.

669
00:38:20.400 --> 00:38:25.400
It was just, but she at age 43,

670
00:38:26.080 --> 00:38:29.080
actually, I left home when I was 16 for good.

671
00:38:29.080 --> 00:38:33.680
I left and moved to Russia and then Norway and traveled.

672
00:38:33.680 --> 00:38:35.640
That's a long story, but I'm not going to go there.

673
00:38:35.640 --> 00:38:38.480
But I remember coming back

674
00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:40.520
and I was helping my family as much as I could,

675
00:38:40.520 --> 00:38:41.360
sending money.

676
00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:46.360
And when I was 18, I felt like I need to come back home.

677
00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:51.000
And by then her liver deteriorated, she was dying.

678
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:53.600
And she died in agony.

679
00:38:53.600 --> 00:38:55.800
And that's another like a massive trauma

680
00:38:55.800 --> 00:38:57.480
that I still dealing through

681
00:38:57.480 --> 00:39:00.640
because there was no assistance at all.

682
00:39:00.640 --> 00:39:01.480
You know, when I came,

683
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:03.320
I didn't have money to help her,

684
00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:04.640
to put her in the hospital.

685
00:39:04.640 --> 00:39:07.160
And she was from hospital in and out,

686
00:39:07.160 --> 00:39:09.360
but, you know, always went back drinking.

687
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:11.360
So there was nothing left from her liver.

688
00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:13.440
She died in absolute agony.

689
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:19.320
And she had experience with Jesus.

690
00:39:20.640 --> 00:39:23.400
I have no doubt that she's with Jesus now.

691
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:25.760
Absolutely no doubt that she's with Jesus.

692
00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:30.760
It's like this, you know, hero who managed to raise us up

693
00:39:31.600 --> 00:39:34.120
in one of the most horrific environments.

694
00:39:34.120 --> 00:39:35.800
Yeah, there.

695
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:37.560
And she had encounters with Jesus

696
00:39:37.560 --> 00:39:42.560
and some amazing things happened in and out in the process.

697
00:39:43.800 --> 00:39:46.120
But she died a very, very painful death.

698
00:39:46.120 --> 00:39:47.720
That was in my arms.

699
00:39:47.720 --> 00:39:49.680
Yeah, she was bleeding all over

700
00:39:49.680 --> 00:39:52.360
and there's nothing anyone could do.

701
00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:56.680
Yeah, so it was really, really traumatic.

702
00:39:56.680 --> 00:39:58.320
Wow, that is wild.

703
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:00.040
Now I'm gonna do a screenshot.

704
00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:05.760
just now because you've come out of this place and now completely flipped the script

705
00:40:06.720 --> 00:40:14.080
and what is this that you're building right here? I see March 2017, February 2022,

706
00:40:14.720 --> 00:40:22.400
what is this? What's going on here? So a number of years ago I've founded a ministry called

707
00:40:22.400 --> 00:40:29.120
Invest in a Life and the mission of Invest in a Life is to empower and equip individuals by

708
00:40:29.120 --> 00:40:34.480
providing necessary resources for them to thrive and become leaders and catalysts of positive

709
00:40:34.480 --> 00:40:41.280
change. So not just hands out, actually training people and it's focused on survivors of sexual

710
00:40:41.280 --> 00:40:48.560
exploitation, human trafficking, women and children at this stage. Now when I left Tajikistan

711
00:40:48.560 --> 00:40:56.240
I never ever ever wanted to go back, I never wanted to do anything with survivors of human

712
00:40:56.240 --> 00:41:00.160
trafficking or anything to do with men or women who've been through that, I was way too close home

713
00:41:00.720 --> 00:41:07.040
and then had a powerful encounter again, Holy Spirit softened my heart, spoke to my heart, it was

714
00:41:08.160 --> 00:41:13.360
that story is worth writing a book on just how amazing Holy Spirit is. He never is like okay

715
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:18.640
you're doing this because it's good for a character, just come like a loving papa would give me a hug

716
00:41:18.640 --> 00:41:24.960
and just I want to partner with you. So Jesus invited me to partner with him to go back and to

717
00:41:25.520 --> 00:41:32.480
build a home for people like my mom and people like my sister who had no one actually no one to

718
00:41:32.480 --> 00:41:39.600
turn to for help. There was no government agency or a non-profit or even churches had no idea what

719
00:41:39.600 --> 00:41:44.720
to do with people like my mom or my sister you know with that situation. So now I'm partnering

720
00:41:44.720 --> 00:41:53.040
with Jesus to building this home, it's called House of Shalom, a safe place where women and

721
00:41:53.040 --> 00:41:59.520
children can come find refuge, heal, restore and be empowered and equipped to integrate back into

722
00:41:59.520 --> 00:42:08.320
society. So back in 2007 actually, at 2017 there was this building that he showed me and at first

723
00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:12.640
I was like there's no way like I was still you know just living day-to-day pretty much

724
00:42:13.200 --> 00:42:21.200
and he gave me Haggai too, it's an amazing story and every story is amazing and gave me strategies

725
00:42:21.200 --> 00:42:27.520
how to pursue that and brought people my way who was on fire as well as like yes let's do it and

726
00:42:27.520 --> 00:42:33.520
some of the people is Benji and Alana right here and then John, Stephan, John and Fiona just want

727
00:42:33.520 --> 00:42:39.280
to honor you so much guys who just came along is like yeah let's do this absolutely let's do that

728
00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:47.280
and so within five years we've raised roughly two hundred thousand dollars and this is a massive

729
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:53.840
house as well and I came to this place but this is just part of our ministry you know we have

730
00:42:53.840 --> 00:43:00.000
emergency funds, we have an amazing team on the ground that works and empowering people and help

731
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:09.040
them with because our main thing is to providing resources most of all why people in

732
00:43:09.680 --> 00:43:14.480
people in poverty are so vulnerable when they can't feed their children this is our weak part

733
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:19.920
you know if I can't feed my daughter there's nothing I would do wouldn't do right so I think

734
00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:25.680
providing medical assistance, paying for their bills you know things like that so that's

735
00:43:25.680 --> 00:43:32.880
very very practical you know a love that is an action first so a lot of people see that

736
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they're like wow awesome you know let's build it but this is just part of our project so

737
00:43:37.520 --> 00:43:43.520
there's that going on on the side as well with micro loans and helping people to start businesses

738
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and things like that yeah so that's that's to present here. It's so exciting and we are going

739
00:43:50.640 --> 00:43:56.960
to hear more about this going forward in the future I'm really excited about journeying

740
00:43:56.960 --> 00:44:01.920
you know journeying together as Raising Royalty with you and it's been cool right from the start

741
00:44:01.920 --> 00:44:07.680
I mean this is this is something I love I remember the day you know that we kind of just

742
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remember there in the church we're in the cafe there with the crew and we had that service it

743
00:44:14.320 --> 00:44:18.640
was kind of like should we go all in on this guys and everyone's like yeah and you know we didn't

744
00:44:18.640 --> 00:44:24.320
really have you know cash floating around none of us had cash in those days all of us had like next

745
00:44:24.320 --> 00:44:30.800
to nothing in those days and we're all like you know what yes and we make this massive all-in yes

746
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and take some big risk and get in there and I mean this building some people say I mean depending on

747
00:44:35.840 --> 00:44:42.080
how you sleep people then you could accommodate nearly 50 people yeah absolutely and then there's

748
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also a second house there that's built there's all these other ministries that you've got happening

749
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alongside it as well I've got a team there in Tajikistan and so really this is so beautiful

750
00:44:53.600 --> 00:44:59.600
of you know along these conversations around legacy around actually bringing

751
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.840
Explanation, Discipling Nations, it always starts somewhere.

752
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It starts with something.

753
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It looks like something.

754
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:06.280
Love looks like something.

755
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And it's so beautiful to see this because, I mean, is there anything else like this

756
00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:15.280
even in that city or in the nation that we even know about?

757
00:45:16.720 --> 00:45:22.920
There's only one home in the capital that can host 12 people, and they are heavily

758
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monitored by the government.

759
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So even though the leaders are Christians, they're not allowed to bring Jesus into

760
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conversation. I mean, how can you even operate without Jesus?

761
00:45:34.480 --> 00:45:36.840
So there's only one that I know of to date.

762
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I might be wrong.

763
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There might be something more.

764
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But hence why we're not registering as non-profit or we're going to stay low.

765
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This is going to be just a family living there.

766
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So we can actually do what we designed to do and not work around what government

767
00:45:54.600 --> 00:45:55.600
tells us what to do.

768
00:45:55.920 --> 00:46:01.560
Yeah. I mean, very difficult context to be working in, in the context of an Islamic

769
00:46:01.560 --> 00:46:07.280
nation, KGB dynamics, all of those things really tense.

770
00:46:07.280 --> 00:46:11.880
So we're so delighted, Marina, and what you're doing, really excited going forward

771
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:14.320
is raising royalty to be partnering with this more.

772
00:46:14.320 --> 00:46:18.680
And so cool to see, you know, it has been love and action.

773
00:46:18.680 --> 00:46:19.680
It has been a battle.

774
00:46:19.680 --> 00:46:24.160
It has been step by step, but you're seeing God just keep breaking through.

775
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:28.760
And I mean, it's just looking amazing what you've built over there.

776
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:30.040
It's starting to really come alive.

777
00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:37.320
Absolutely. And we also take teams every year from New Zealand and whoever wants to

778
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:42.080
come to Tajikistan to minister, because one of the things is we are a bridge between

779
00:46:42.080 --> 00:46:46.120
resources, you know, so we take teams every year to Tajikistan.

780
00:46:46.120 --> 00:46:49.040
We had some real cool adventures with Kiwis.

781
00:46:49.040 --> 00:46:50.040
Yeah, totally.

782
00:46:51.160 --> 00:46:53.840
So I just want to invite people as well to come along.

783
00:46:54.040 --> 00:46:55.240
Oh, yes.

784
00:46:55.240 --> 00:46:56.680
It's so fun as well.

785
00:46:56.680 --> 00:47:01.520
It's not, I really love this quote by Frederick Buchner that I want to just read.

786
00:47:01.520 --> 00:47:07.640
The place God calls you to is the place where your deep gladness and the world's deep

787
00:47:07.680 --> 00:47:12.360
hunger meet. Deep gladness and the world's deep hunger meet.

788
00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:16.480
So it's actually so fun to be part of this.

789
00:47:16.640 --> 00:47:17.880
It's so life giving.

790
00:47:18.800 --> 00:47:22.800
So, yeah, it's a cool thing to come and come and partake in this.

791
00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:25.680
Come on. Well, that's an exciting invitation, isn't it?

792
00:47:26.440 --> 00:47:30.800
As the world opens up again, let's all go to Tajikistan.

793
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:33.080
Let's hang out there. Let's impact lives.

794
00:47:33.080 --> 00:47:34.840
Let's build this. We're going to see.

795
00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:40.320
Yeah, I mean, one thought that I have, you know, in the process of building and fighting

796
00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:46.520
for something like this is how much will it impact the kids who were on the street, you

797
00:47:46.520 --> 00:47:51.640
know, with their mom when they get to go and live in the House of Shalom and get looked

798
00:47:51.640 --> 00:47:54.280
after? Yeah, yeah.

799
00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:56.720
Amazing. Amazing.

800
00:47:56.720 --> 00:48:02.000
I love it. I love that this is the space that we're in and so much of discipleship of

801
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:07.640
nations has been in this conversation with God very, very

802
00:48:07.640 --> 00:48:11.600
intentionally recently about, you know, the difference between discipleship of nations

803
00:48:11.600 --> 00:48:17.440
always and, you know, discipleship of the one, you know, Heidi Baker talks a lot about

804
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:18.560
stopping for the one.

805
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:24.520
But really it is, you know, it's it's a journey of stopping for the one leads to the

806
00:48:24.520 --> 00:48:25.960
discipleship of the nations.

807
00:48:25.960 --> 00:48:30.800
But it's also the discipleship of the nations that creates a platform for the one to be

808
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:35.600
stopped for. And and that's totally what what's happening here.

809
00:48:35.600 --> 00:48:38.280
So I'm excited, really excited for this.

810
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:39.320
So very cool.

811
00:48:40.120 --> 00:48:44.400
Yeah, beautiful. And I think, I mean, your story is so powerful as well, because

812
00:48:44.400 --> 00:48:48.560
sometimes Christians sometimes wear poverty as a badge of honor.

813
00:48:48.560 --> 00:48:54.160
And it's really, really important to highlight testimonies like yours, because poverty

814
00:48:54.160 --> 00:48:57.920
is a curse that Satan uses to destroy people.

815
00:49:01.800 --> 00:49:04.160
And yeah, so I love what you've done.

816
00:49:04.160 --> 00:49:06.480
I love that you've brought abundance into your world.

817
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:07.920
I love that you flip the script.

818
00:49:07.920 --> 00:49:11.680
You're creating a legacy for generations to come there.

819
00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:16.320
And we're really excited, you know, going forward, partnering together more and and

820
00:49:16.440 --> 00:49:21.000
chuck your hand up if you like the idea of going to Tajikistan with Marina, helping

821
00:49:21.000 --> 00:49:22.480
build the House of Shalom together.

822
00:49:22.480 --> 00:49:25.400
I mean, that sounds like a wild amount of fun to me.

823
00:49:25.400 --> 00:49:26.760
I look forward to seeing you guys there.

824
00:49:26.760 --> 00:49:32.000
Let's go and hang out in Tajikistan together and and be a part of building the House

825
00:49:32.000 --> 00:49:37.160
of Shalom together. So, Marina, why don't you pray for us to wrap up and people

826
00:49:37.160 --> 00:49:38.680
absolutely loving your story.

827
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:41.320
They're so delighted and grateful for what you're sharing.

828
00:49:41.320 --> 00:49:42.400
So thank you so much.

829
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:45.160
And everyone say thanks, Marina.

830
00:49:45.160 --> 00:49:49.080
And we'll let you pray and we'll close it up there.

831
00:49:50.120 --> 00:49:51.800
Well, Jesus, thank you.

832
00:49:51.800 --> 00:49:52.840
We acknowledge you.

833
00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:59.800
Thank you for igniting our hearts with love and empowering us to love ourselves.

834
00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:08.720
love one another. Thank you for increasing our capacity to dream. Thank you for empowering

835
00:50:08.720 --> 00:50:14.480
us. So I bless you. I bless everyone who's watching, who will be watching. I bless you

836
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:21.280
in certainty and faith in the name of Yeshua HaMashiach that he will reveal to you everything

837
00:50:21.280 --> 00:50:28.080
you need to know to come to the fullness of who he created you to be. I bless your mind.

838
00:50:28.080 --> 00:50:36.160
I bless your spirit. I bless your soul. I bless your finances. May God bless you with

839
00:50:36.160 --> 00:50:47.520
all the blessings that will reveal the amazing nature of who he is, a loving papa who delights

840
00:50:47.520 --> 00:51:00.320
in you, who loves you. In the precious name of Yeshua, I pray. Amen. Amen. Well, thank you so

841
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:11.040
much. So blessed. Love you. And we will be live with Kelly in just a couple of minutes. So Kelly

842
00:51:11.040 --> 00:51:17.920
is going to share with us some of these real critical steps in the process of changing

843
00:51:17.920 --> 00:51:23.040
mindsets, which is as well critical in your journey and every single person that we've had share.

844
00:51:24.160 --> 00:51:28.000
The mindset transformation has been so critical. So Kelly is going to be talking with us

845
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:33.760
in just a couple of minutes about how to actually make those mindset changes from,

846
00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:37.600
you know, from orphan mindsets to royal mindsets. You can actually start

847
00:51:38.080 --> 00:51:44.480
making transition in your life into a world of abundance. So Marina, thank you so much. We love

848
00:51:44.480 --> 00:51:51.600
you and we're excited to share the journey together with you. So bless you and see you later. Bye-bye.
